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    1. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi TC.

      The organ he’s using in the Live In Finland video, is the same model as the one in this video:-

      (There’s a 1.50 preamble before the music starts.)

      I know Keith Emerson played a Hammond B3 so I did a Google image search and proved myself correct.

      “Do It Again”. No idea what they mean but here are the lyrics onnyhoo.

      In the mornin’ you go gunnin’ for the man who stole your water
      And you fire ’til he is done in but they catch you at the border
      And the mourners are all singin’ as they drag you by your feet
      But the hangman isn’t hangin’ and they put you on the street
      You go back, Jack, do it again, wheel turnin’ ’round and ’round
      You go back, Jack, do it again
      When you know she’s no high climber then you find your only friend
      In a room with your two-timer, and you’re sure you’re near the end
      Then you love a little wild one and she brings you only sorrow
      All the time you know she’s smilin’ you’ll be on your knees tomorrow, yeah
      You go back, Jack, do it again, wheel turnin’ ’round and ’round
      You go back, Jack, do it again
      Now you swear and kick and beg us that you’re not a gamblin’ man
      Then you find you’re back in Vegas with a handle in your hand
      Your black cards can make you money so you hide them when you’re able
      In the land of milk and honey, you must put them on the table
      You go back, Jack, do it again, wheels turnin’ ’round and ’round
      You go back, Jack, do it again…

      Nane the wezzer…

    2. Tinto Chiel says:

      @BDTT: yes, you can only do Dirty Hammond on a Hammond, after all. Thanks for that, Sherlock 🙂 .

      I’m none the wezzer either but I suppose the track is the triumph of rhythmic atmosphere over meaning.

      Was at the Glasgow AUOB march a few weeks ago: sad and changed days indeed.

    3. Dan says:

      Ahh, I always wondered what Hammond was when mentioned in the Jazz Club clip with Desolate Shore.
      (1 min 30 sec)

      Wildlife update: Have been away from home for a week or so and came home to find that I’ve missed my “pet” Elephant Hawk Moth caterpillar chrysalis hatching.

    4. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Dan.

      It looks like a B3.

    5. Marie Clark says:

      Hi Tinto, another walk down memory lane, as for the lyrics of the song, havnae a scooby. Never could figure them out,I put it down to something that they might have been smoking at the time.

      I was kinda like yourself thinking that this place was finally dead, but up pops BDTT to prove us all wrong. I always have a wee look in to see if anything is doing, and it’s great to see some of us still posting. Good works lads, are we still allowed to say lads, ah, feck it who cares, lads it is.

    6. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Sarah.

      Next time you post a comment here, before you hit the “Submit Comment” button, check the “Notify me of new posts by email” box, then whenever somebody post here, you’ll get an email informing you.

      A week or so ago, on Ken Bruce’s “Tracks of my years” feature, this track was played. The video is quite impressive. Check out the vanishing guitar at the end.

    7. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      This song was performed on “Britain’s Got Talent” tonight. So I thought I would link to a relatively rare (radio play-wise) version of it.

      The Spectres recorded it as a single in 1966. The link is to a BBC live recording of the band. By late 1967, they had changed their name to Status Quo.

    8. sarah says:

      OK Brian, I’ll try but I can’t say I have ever seen a box saying “notify me of new posts by email”! As you know, IT tech stuff is way beyond me.

      Dan – sorry to hear you missed your Elephant Hawk Moth emerging. But at least it shows it was alive. I saw a glorious and exotic caterpillar the other day and excitedly took photos to show my husband and identify it – it was very furry and bright orange below and a grey top. Wow I thought – this is so rare – never seen one in the nearly 70 years of my life. Well it was only a COMMON Tiger Moth, found throughout the British Isles in gardens. Talk about deflated!

    9. sarah says:

      @ Brian: Found it! Impressive, eh?

    10. Tinto Chiel says:

      @Marie: I’m now called Samantha but don’t let that stop you posting here 🙂 .

      @Sarah: don’t get too downhearted. Common gulls are not common, so if you see one, be happy.

    11. sarah says:

      @ Tinto: uncommon common gulls! Who chooses these names, for heavens sake? However I do feel better for hearing that!

      A white-tailed eagle came past our house today but I’m not boasting about that as my sister-in-law has one in the middle of their village in Sussex! It roosts on a pylon.

    12. Tinto Chiel says:

      @Sarah: there is a theory they were called common gulls because they were often seen in flocks on commons but I haven’t seen this confirmed anywhere reliable.

      WTEs in Sussex? Soon there’ll be Bigfoot sightings in the Cairngorms.

      For all my times in Wester Ross and Skye, I was never lucky enough to see an otter. Then one day about three years ago down the bird reserve near Motherwell, I saw one several times at a bend in the Clyde.

      It’s a funny old game, Saint…….

    13. sarah says:

      @ Tinto: right, gulls on a common. The only place I’ve seen several at once was high up a glen below Ben Dearg, Lochbroom – husband said they breed in such places i.e. not by the shore. It is indeed a funny old game…

      The Sussex WTE had apparently popped over from the Isle of Wight breeding programme. Not far as the er WTE flies, I suppose.

      As for the otter in the Clyde – I wonder if they like it now there is less [I presume] ship fuel in the water. When I was a child a trip to the beach always involved getting tar on one’s person! Anyway, lovely to see otters – they live along the shore here but I don’t see them often so it is always a thrill.

    14. Tinto Chiel says:

      @Sarah: yes, gulls on common land. Perhaps, but who knows? They are handsome birds to me, beautiful large, dark eyes and a beak which is quite elegant for a gull, a look a bit like a kittiwake. Saw them up close while staying in a relative’s house on Arran.

      I’d forgotten about the IoW WTE programme: makes sense now.

      The Clyde at the Baron’s Haugh RSPB site is entirely rural, so no engine oil. You can see ospreys further up the river around Abington. It gets deeper and wider gradually once it picks up the Avon between M’well and Hamilton. In mediaeval times Rutherglen (“the Red Glen” in Gaelic) was regarded as the highest part of the Clyde which a ship could reach in them days. Clyde FC still has a three-masted ship on its badge.

      Loch Broom area: Mellon Udrigill, Loch na Beiste and Gruinard island. Ah, the memories!

    15. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      There are oystercatchers with chicks on the roof adjacent to the mailroom at Ninewells Hospital. Parents have to be on constant watch because of the number of gulls on the campus.

      Revisited this video for the first time in years. They had to get rarely given permission from the authorities to film on top of Brooklyn Bridge.

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    17. sarah says:

      @ Tinto: those sandy beaches at Mellon and Gruinard are gorgeous, indeed. I sometimes wish Lochbroom shore was the same but as I stumble along our rocky shore I do realise that if it were sandy I would have a bit too much company!

      I too like the look of the smaller gulls e.g. black-headed – not that we see them in summer but sometimes in winter when they don’t have black heads, as you know, just a black [grey] splodge on the side of the head to aid identification.

      @ Brian: you are lucky to see the oystercatcher family. I see them flying by or feeding and know they must be nesting somewhere not too far but have never seen even the juveniles. And thank you for the tip about getting Wings emails – it is a pleasure to see them in my email!

      Off now to put some netting over my onion bed and raspberries to stop the stag eating more of them…

      That is an interesting snippet about Clyde FC’s badge. Thank you.

    18. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Sarah.

      The young oystercatchers are grey and white, where the adults are black and white.

    19. Tinto Chiel says:

      @Sarah: the time we were there (early 80s) a dotty German woman owned the old school house by the shore. The silly sossage had tried to fence off the beach and the locals weren’t happy.

      Coincidentally, I saw two oystercatchers last Friday on a grassy roundabout near a busy retail park in the east end of Glasgow, probing the ground for worms, etc. They didn’t seem to know they are supposed to be birds of sunlit upland and beautiful shoreline.

      Their two-tone call is supposed to be “Be wise” in Gaelic (Bi glic) but these were obviously not very wise ones.

    20. sarah says:

      @ Brian: thanks for the lovely piece of film. I see they get their adult plumage very quickly – so many types of bird spend months or even years in immature plumage.

      @ Tinto: Wester Ross seems to draw dotty Germans. There is one near Achiltibuie who has caused some “difficulties” over the past 20 years or so.

      I do hope those urban roundabout oystercatchers survive. At least there won’t be many predators there!

    21. Tinto Chiel says:

      @Sarah: no sign of the oystercatchers today but don’t worry too much, although there are plenty of sparrowhawks and buzzards about who also don’t seem to know they shouldn’t be inhabiting a gritty urban environment either 🙂 .

      Those dotty Germans can’t hold a candle to Dane Anders Povlsen, who owns a colossal 221,000 acres of Scotland in his own right. Ironically, a non-Dane can’t own even a single acre of Denmark but that’s Scotland’s impotent status when controlled by another country.

      Makes you fair proud, innit?

    22. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Sarah.

      The attraction, for oystercatchers, of Ninewells Hospital, is that many of the flat roofs are covered with pebbles, simulating their preferred nesting locations.

      This is a QI documentary…

    23. Dan says:

      I’ll see your common gull and oystercatcher pair, and raise you with airborne heron wrestling an eel, and an osprey with a pike both spotted flying over my village in the last month.

    24. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      See, I think the Whitney Houston version of the song took it right out of context, to those of us who had seen the original fuhllum – and bought the record.
      And I found Whitney’s jaw/lip quivering off-putting.

    25. sarah says:

      @ Tinto re Anders Polvsen and others like him. No not proud – absolutely raging. I can’t say how angry I am in general at the lying, criminal, wicked, feeble, incompetent SNP parliamentary groups and HQ staff. Also The National whose editor and staff know the truth but won’t print it. How dare they all stand in the way of our country’s freedom?

      To calm down I will turn to bird matters! We think pied wagtails are nesting in a drystone wall near the house – they are there every year but we have never been able to prove it as the exact spot is round a corner and inside the entrance to a boathouse. The adults are very active recently – flying to and fro non-stop. Our dog tells us where the nest entrance is!

      @ Brian: we enjoyed that QI film about oystercatchers. What an amazing thing – to be able to grow a different shape of bill when needed. We never would have thought they do that. So the ones feeding on our rocky shore with no mud are not the same birds as at the head of the loch where there are mudflats.

      @ Dan: alright. You win.

    26. Tinto Chiel says:

      @Sarah: hardly surprising the SNP ducks the land question when Benny Higgins, the man who runs the Buccleuch Estates for His Grace, is one of Wee Blinky’s advisers.

      @Dan:an osprey wrestling a pike in mid-air? Some sight: reminds me of the arms of Mexico.

      @BDTT: re the quivers, seconded. Simply gwoosome, my dear. Give me Tiny Tim and his tulips any day.

    27. sarah says:

      @ Tinto: and Charlotte Street Partners and Murray “the Vow” Foote as advisors. You couldn’t make it up. What a bunch of ("Tractor" - Ed)s – no wonder we are further from independence than we were.

      Main thread btl is going to pot again, sad to say.

    28. Tinto Chiel says:

      Yes, Sarah, the Foote appointment was a sign which even the WGD loyalists should have seen as proof Nicky had sold the jerseys. Ever since January 2020 I have imagined “The Union: safe in my hands” scrolling along below NS’s wee lectern when I have them misfortune to see her speak.

      Re the M/T situation: it could be solved quite easily if our host applied his own rules on trolling behaviour.

    29. sarah says:

      I can’t bear seeing or hearing NS now, nor those who do nothing to oust her e.g. Ian Blackford.

      Having thought hitherto that we needed to get rid of NS I am now thinking that it would be easier to target her little helpers – SAS, Emma Roddick, Alyn Smith, Anne Mclaughlin, Stewart Macdonald etc etc etc. They are “littler” people and won’t get the protection of the media or the HQ staff to the same degree. And once all the little people are gone the leader will lose influence. “I have a dream…”.

      Honestly there is no hiding from the Rev, is there? It never occurred to me that I couldn’t say tractors in Off Topic!

    30. Tinto Chiel says:

      No, the All-Seeing Eye is everywhere, Sarah. It’s easier to say Massey Ferguson in any case :).

      Saw a pipistrelle bat flying around in daylight again yesterday. Hope it’s not one of those Julius Caesar/End of Days things.

    31. sarah says:

      Well at this time of year it is mostly daylight, Tinto! A bat gotta eat, you know…

    32. Tinto Chiel says:

      Yes but this was about elevenses time 🙂 . We normally see them at twilight flitting around the rooftops but mid-morning flight is strange. The time is out of joint and I don’t mean weed 😉 . Must be time for a hooky SNP independence plan.

      A guy down the road investigated noises in his wall with one of those bendy wee camera things (technical term) and discovered a large bat colony in the wall space. Of course, he could not intervene with extreme prejudice because they are protected. Once all means of ingress had been blocked, a one-way bat-flap (out only) solved the problem (at least for him).

    33. sarah says:

      Yeah, Tinto, I did realise that it must have been in real daylight hours for you to have mentioned the oddity – just my little joke. 🙂

      Howsomever, I don’t like NS’s latest joke speech. Jeezus. And I am very worried – am sure the spooks are going to make certain Scotland doesn’t escape soon, if at all. And are certain keen Yessers watching out for their personal security? I wouldn’t put it past the spooks bosses especially with these new laws allowing ministers to have people killed.

    34. Tinto Chiel says:

      @Sarah: sorry. Tone, irony and humour often don’t travel well on the imterwebthingy. I’m a bit sluggish, today, I think.

      I don’t believe anything so spookishly dramatic will be necessary. I can’t think of any highly charismatic Yes leaders anyway. Even if it came to a referendum, the SG is unprepared and has no clear positions on the topics they would be hounded on by the MSM: eight years of no planning or strategising is a criminal position to be in (but thank God Nicola “hearts” books, eh?). We know in any case any campaign would have neither the heart nor the head to win, even before the inevitable pochling by WM.

      Then The Leaderene would say, “Well, I tried!” before toddling off to some non- but very lucrative post in the UN/WEF/WHO and leaving us deeper in doodoo than ever before.

    35. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Fot those readers who don’t get TC’s reference to “Tiny Tim and his tulips”, I offer these two links for your edumacation.

    36. Tinto Chiel says:

      @BDTT: yes, he was always one of Greenwich Village’s strangest blooms, innit? Seemed a gentle soul, though.

      Talking of strange blooms:

    37. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      AH! Following on from that, I’m sure I linked to this a fair while ago in ‘off-topic’.

      And another of my videos, featuring a flying creature.

    38. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Just realised the pigeon connection…

    39. Tinto Chiel says:

      @BDTT: never heard that before on here.

      The pigeon connection?

      Scene: Honeymoon Couple at bed time.

      (Husband disrobes)

      Bride: I didn’t realise you were so pigeon-chested.

      Groom: That’s why I love you like a doo.

      *I’ll get my coat*

    40. sarah says:

      Well there is something about “they’re coming to take me away..” that disturbs my dog! She is now lying under the table…

      Have to agree with your analysis of the state of the independence cause, Tinto. Why and how has the entire [with a handful, if as many, exceptions] SNP parliamentary group and party administration fallen into line with this useless person? The result is a wreck.

      Charismatic Yessers? I can think of only one, really.

    41. Tinto Chiel says:

      Is it you or is it me?


    42. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Lieutenant Pigeon did “Mouldy Old Dough”.

      The second video was the pigeon deterrent.

    43. sarah says:

      Tinto, it must be you. I’m not even charismatic to our dog – she gets hugely excited by a cheap squeaky yellow ball. I don’t register compared with that!

      I found a clip of Margot MacDonald recently – my goodness what a powerhouse she was. Wouldn’t she turn Holyrood into a magnificent forum and get a fighting campaign going? I have been wondering if clips of her could be shown on buildings and display vans, as Lead by Donkeys does so well.

      That exit-only bat flap is just what we need for the church building that our community bought from the Church of Scotland to save it falling into alien hands. There’s repairs needed [of course] and any time the repairs are near the roof we have to pay hundreds of pounds for bat surveys, bat licence, and bat aids. I agree with looking after wildlife but its not as if there aren’t plenty of other suitable places for these creatures.

    44. Tinto Chiel says:

      Margo MacDonald? Without question she had it all, Sarah: great intelligence, compassion, a genuine commitment to fight for people’s rights (especially those of wives and mothers in difficult circumstances) and a fierce courage to win our freedom to put Wee Blinky to shame.

      She and her family were well-known in the Hamilton and East Kilbride area and even my old-fashioned non-SNP parents had huge respect for her. Not just her: her(half-?) sister went to my school in the 60s and created a sensation when, as captain, she won a national debating competition at Glasgow University, beating many private school (and predominantly male) rivals.

      You may remember some years ago that Margo warned that the SNP had been infiltrated by the security services. At the time, being somewhat naive, I thought this a bit paranoid (this was before my experience of the 2014 ref. campaign) but everything I have witnessed since then has vindicated her opinion.

      I can imagine how Margo would have instantly shredded any Woke arguments as to what constitutes a woman. To mangle old William Wordsmith: “Margo! You should be living at this hour.”

    45. sarah says:

      Oh, Tinto, what an image you have presented of Margo making all the GRA wokists shrivel and fall silent, whilst rousing the rest of us to energetic enthusiasm. Even the best of the current activists aren’t in that league. Ah well, we just have to manage with what we’ve got.

      Is her [half] sister available to help? She sounds to have the ability.

      And I am sure she was right about the security services. After all, look at Willie MacRae and that was years and years before the independence-supporting vote was significant. That’s the kind of thing I was referring to the other day.

    46. Tinto Chiel says:

      I’ve no idea what her relative did after her school days but she was certainly in the Margo mould. We were bussed to the event to hear her and she was a passionate and articulate speaker.

      Looked at the situation logically, the SSs wouldn’t have been doing their job not to have their little helpers installed in the party but I had innocently thought this would be difficult to achieve. They didn’t even bother making a good job of Willie’s death, since they knew it could be easily covered up in our sham democracy and the ” investigative journalists” of our glorious Free Press wouldn’t look very closely.


      Spiritually uplifting nature note: saw a magnificent, mature hornbeam yesterday in an old public park in Glasgow. Quite an unusual sight and much too big to hug properly.

    47. Tinto Chiel says:

      It shoulda been “looking” in para 2.

    48. sarah says:

      You and me both, Tinto. I now realise how naive I am. I was always emailing Ian Blackford with helpful suggestions, trusting that he was entirely on board with trying to regain independence asap. I even emailed him when Alex Salmond was charged, saying how terrible and what a stitch-up by evil forces – Ian replied saying it was indeed a sad day for the SNP family!!!!!!!! He was party to the stitch-up, I now understand.

      That hornbeam sounds superb. I could never be a forester because I can’t bear to fell trees even when they are endangering my garden walls – I have to steal myself to pull up seedlings even. We have a magnificent lime tree which thrills us every year when the flowers open and for several days the air is full of the buzz from thousands of honey bees.

      Something else to cheer you up in case you haven’t seen my post btl on M/T – have a look at that clip of Billy Connolly that Broadcasting Scotland have on their site today. We were in fits of laughter.

    49. Tinto Chiel says:

      @Sarah: Yes, every time I heard The Blowhard say we would not be taken out of the EU against our will, I believed him, and that Nicky had a cunning plan under her smart wee red coat and with one bound we would be free. What a sap I was!

      I’ve always thought Connolly was one of the most naturally funny guys anywhere, but he’s been lukewarm at best over independence and I found his love affair with royalty at Highland Games, etc frankly embarrassing for such an apparently proud proletarian. I wish I were successful enough at something so I could tell them where they could stick their royal gong.

      I’ve been having trouble finding the venison clip but will persevere: I could do with a laugh. His banjo playing on Cripple Creek was very good. Was it you or Daisy Walker who posted it a while back? He’s an impressive plucker. Yes, that’s what’s wot I sed.

      @BDTT: ever since I got my MacBook I’ve been unable to click on the blue links under Previous Posts and the other list of links like Zany Comedy Relief, meaning I have to use the search button each time to access them. Any ideas how I could rectify the situation?

    50. sarah says:

      Tinto – go to Broadcasting Scotland’s site. Scroll down until a box with their tweets shows – scroll down to 16th June and look for a retweet of James Withers – he gives the Connolly clip. Or perhaps just go to James’ twitter! Sorry I can’t do links – Robert Peffers told me how in 2016 but I never got round to following his instructions!

      Agree with you re Connolly’s feeble support for Scotland’s independent existence – very strange.

      Reverting to Blackford – I could not believe that anyone would assert so many times that “Scotland will not be dragged out of Europe” if they didn’t have an action plan ready. If I had said such a thing I would have had to hide away in shame at not delivering. Yet there he still is. Unbelievable.

    51. Tinto Chiel says:

      Fanx, Sarah. Most amusing (I have a similar problem grasping the concept of “Leftover Wine”).

      I know there’s no-one here but us and BDTT but I’ll leave this for some stray cyber-wanderer:

      I can’t be bothered tinyurling it.

      To copy and paste I highlight the url of the clip which is in the wee bar at the top of the webpage, hold down the command key and press C. This saves it. When you want to post it on here press command plus V and it should appear. If it is a YouTube clip, you have to delete everything to the left of the www part of the url or it will disappear into The Rev’s Black Hole of Oblivion, never to return, like any comment which has a banned word.

      R. Peffers? A blast from the past. I hope he is well. I can only imagine how he reacted to Stu’s The Great Betrayer post. Spontaneous human combustion, possibly.

    52. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi TC.

      Haven’t come across your MacBook problem. I have had similar within the Finder on my MacPro, where the mouse will move the cursor around but the three clicks do nothing. Unplugging the mouse for a few seconds then plugging it back in usually does the job.

      Last night, I took my sister, Moira, who lives at Straloch, just outside Pitlochry, to see David Colvin’s play “Thunderstruck” at Dundee Rep. It’s about legendary piper Gordon Duncan. The reason I took her was because she and her family knew Gordon. His son, young Gordon, was best pals with my nephew Silas. They did some musical collaborations together.

      The play was excellent! Full of sweary words, eg an explanation of how, in Fife, the ‘c-word’ is used instead of ‘chap’ or ‘guy’, and does not refer to a ladypart.

      There was a standing ovation at the end.

      On our way down the Nethergate after the show, Moira phoned young Gordon because she had told him about going to see the play. Turned out he was in Dundee visiting friends and was across the road in the DCA. So we did an ABT and met Gordon outside the DCA. Had a pleasant hour or so with him and his friends. Four of us had all gone to Kirkton High School and one of them, Gordon Mathieson, had been in my class!

      Be warned though! A pint of Tennents and a large Chardonay in Wetherspoons = £5.75. The same in the DCA = £12.40!

      Here’s an example of Gordon’s music, performed by his brother and nephew.

      Alex plays The Sleeping Tune in a tribute to his uncle, Gordon Duncan, who wrote the tune. His father, Ian Duncan, joins in, followed by the Lothian & Borders Police Pipe Band. It is the band’s last concert, performed at the Royal Concert Hall, Glasgow, Scotland on January 12, 2012.

      Incidentally, at my niece’s wedding a couple of weeks ago, one of the Red Hot Chilli Pipers was supposed to play but pulled out at the last minute. Ian Duncan stepped in and did the business.

      The play is well worth seeing. This link is a good read. If you click the first ‘Thunderstruck’ graphic giving the tour dates, you will be taken to the play’s FB page, where the graphic is more legible.

      I guess finishing off with this is appropriate. AC/DC was his favourite band.

    53. sarah says:

      @ Tinto: many thanks for the tutorial. I am clearly bottom of the class as I struggle to identify an url . However when I can give it my full attention I am sure it will become clear though I might have to come back for some further clarification…

    54. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Sarah.

      Whenever you’re on a web page, there is a long box at the top of your window, which contains text that starts with “https” or “http”.

      What you do is select all the text in that box then (Control and c – Windows) or (Command and c – Mac) to copy all that text to your built-in clipboard.

      Then, when you want to share that address in a comment, You press control and v (windows) or command and v (Mac) to paste the url in your comment, at the cursor position.

      Always check the preview below the ‘submit’ box, to make sure your comment is legible. Remember, you must not include the “https://” or “http://” in a YouTube url.

      Like this…

      Here’s a link you may enjoy.

      I posted that link starting with “www.”, not “https://” but the WordPress system adds the “https://” to the published comment in the background.

    55. Saffron Robe says:

      Just popped by and noticed you’ve been talking about Billy Connolly so I thought I’d share my anecdote! Many years ago I went with a friend to see John Renbourn (of Pentangle) and Robin Williamson (of The Incredible String Band) at the Castlemilk Folk Festival as they were doing a tour together. The place was stowed and my friend and I were sitting on chairs which had been arranged along one of the side walls. I looked around the room and saw someone that looked like Billy Connolly sitting at the back. I nudged my friend and said, “Do you not think that man over there looks just like Billy Connolly?”, and my friend replied, “Yes, he does, because it is Billy Connolly!”. I didn’t realise at the time that he was a banjo player (having started out in a band) and also a big fan of The Incredible String Band. He was invited up on stage at one point and joined in with John and Robin on his banjo! As you say, Tinto, he was actually very good.

    56. Tinto Chiel says:

      BDTT: thanks anyway, Brian. It’s a strange problem. I may have to consult one of the Apple “geniuses” in their Glesca shop.

      Lovely tune and performance in that tribute and the Thunderstruck performance on the bagpipes was astonishing: amazing technique.

      Re the C-word, we met a quite refined lady while on holiday in France who used the French version con/conne a couple of times while referring to a neighbour. This surprised us a bit but it seemed to equate roughly to “silly bitch” rather than the full strength version.

      @Saffron Robe: this is the clip I think Daisy Walker posted here a while ago.

      Last time I saw BC (or his double) was on the big march to The Meadows from Holyrood (remember when we had those?). He was sitting at the side of the road, watching the marchers go past rather wistfully, it seemed to me. Perhaps he was was experiencing a Damascene conversion or summat.

    57. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi TC.

      I only found one video of Gordon performing “Thunderstruck” live but it didn’t include the start.

      Here it is onnyhoo, so you can checkout the fingerwork.

      BTW: it is said that he reintroduced ‘notebending’ to the bagpipes and increased the 9 note limitation.

    58. Dan says:

      Blackbirds to be added to the list of birds of prey after chomping on my strawberries before I could get the plants netted…
      Fortunately it looks like a bumper crop this year so losing just a few early ripe fruits ain’t too bad.
      Think I managed to squish so many sawfly caterpillars before they stripped the bushes bare that I’ll still get a good crop of black and gooseberries.

      @ BDtt
      My old man made bagpipes and he helped develop and then made keyed chanters (think like keys on a clarinet) so extra note holes could be drilled in the chanter that previously the fingers could not reach to cover.
      Not the best sound quality in this vid of Niteworks at Barrowlands but he made the chanter / pipes being played in this clip. 😉

    59. sarah says:

      Off topic has become very lively while I’ve been otherwise occupied!

      Brian, thank you for the guidance on what an url is. I will report back idc. And I did enjoy that clip, by the way.

      Musing on Billy Connolly after watching how he got such a funny act out of a phrase in a recipe book, I remembered a joke that always makes me giggle. He would be asking members of the audience where they were from and say something amusing. The bit that cracks me up is when he asks “Is there anyone here from Fife?”. Audience member “Aye”. BC “Your bananas are terrible.” Oh dear, giggling again..

      @ Tinto, was that the October 2019 march that you saw BC watching? I was in that march as well. Happy days.

    60. Tinto Chiel says:

      Not sure the exact date but it was the one which went up a bit of the Royal Mile and ended up in The Meadows. Bumped into Big Ronnie, BDTT and Krew near the Parliament building.

      Last one I was on about six weeks ago in Glasgow barely filled Gibson Street, which isn’t a long one. Nicky’s great as a balloon burster, innit? I

    61. sarah says:

      Yup definitely the October 2019 one. I preferred the route the year before from Johnson’s [Terrace?] below the castle down the whole way to Holyrood and the park beyond. Jampacked, and loads of people on Arthur’s Seat with saltires. Lovely weather too!

      And yes Nicola has been a complete disaster for Scotland – toothless except against our own. Criminal. Incompetent. I could go on but you know it all.

    62. Tinto Chiel says:

      I remember JGedd and I on here a while back discussing our independent face-to-face encounters with her. We both experienced her Death Stare and her iceberg behind a force field demeanour, with no small talk/social skills. I thought it was because, as a white middle-aged male, I would be regarded as of no consequence and a vile agent of the patriarchy but JGedd is a womb-bearer and got the same impression of her, IIRC.

      Don’t know quite was psychological classification to place her in but I’m working on it.

    63. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Sarah.

      Here are three more from ‘Derek and Clive Live’.

      The first is a gentle love song. Sung by Dudley Moore as Derek.

      The second is a tragedy ballad, again sung by Derek.

      Lastly, ‘famous coloured singer’, Bo Duddley, explains the meaning of the lyrics of his song.

    64. sarah says:

      Socrates MacSporran has said several times that he worked with her uncle and she is just like him but I can’t remember what it was specifically that was “off” about the uncle. Others have said that things had to be done her way and that she didn’t hesitate to tell people with far more experience that they were wrong.

      Narcissist and sociopath seem to fit.

    65. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Sarah.

      You typed,
      “Others have said that things had to be done her way and that she didn’t hesitate to tell people with far more experience that they were wrong.”

      We have a guy like that at work just now. So disruptive. He thinks because he was a “manager”, that gives him the right to nitpick the work of others, who have been in the job a lot longer than he.

      I’ve been a manager but I wouldn’t presume to be more correct than my current line manager in my thinking.

      I think “narcissist” is nearest the mark.

    66. Tinto Chiel says:

      @Sarah: probably my own diagnosis (Tinto Chiel , M.D. Third Class, Univy. of Rockall, 1972). Personality By-Pass may be a contributory factor in her condition.

      Sadly Socrates has given up since The Rev put the site into cold storage, like many other entertaining contributors.

      May The Force be with you.

    67. Tinto Chiel says:

      @BDTT: just caught up with your Derek and Clive cavalcade of utter filth. Their “back-catalogue” on YouTube does indeed cause a sharp intake of breath at times, but Free Speech is always much better than No Speech, which is where we are all headed with the Online Harms legislation (and other Tory attacks on freedom).

      D&C outrage the mim-moued, pearl-clutching, offence-junky creeps (and governments who wish to increase their authoritarian control over us) who hypocritically on the sly wish to censor anyone who defends free speech and challenges their Woke Lunacy and other Holy Cows.

    68. Tinto Chiel says:

      MTS: Elvis C warned us over forty years ago.

    69. sarah says:

      @ Tinto: I am as well-qualified as you, medically, but am in a good run at the moment. I diagnosed my husband via googling his symptoms as having fibro-myalgia this week – he told the GP that this is my view and she replied “oh, fibro-myalgia is rather difficult to diagnose”!! She very kindly didn’t ask Peter what medical qualifications I had. The University of Google might not have impressed her.

      @ BDTT: all in the best possible taste, of course. But are there any satirist comics around now to match Dud and Pete, or John Bird and Fortune?

    70. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Sarah.

      You typed,
      ” But are there any satirist comics around now to match Dud and Pete, or John Bird and Fortune?”

      I think Ricky Gervais came close recently.

      He cleverly repeated the Trans-activists mantras, without comment. Result? Trans-activists going doo-lally at his “anti-trans” stance (in their eyes). Watch these two short videos.

    71. sarah says:

      Hi Brian,

      Yes Ricky Gervais is good, and that trans activists piece spot-on. But what a life – fancy having to defend yourself for a comedy routine that used his critics own words.

    72. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Sarah.

      Typing about contemporary comedians…
      Apart from being an excellent musician, Bill Bailey has a sharp mind when it comes to comedy.

    73. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      I’m juss gonna type…

      If Lidl and Aldi capitulate like Tesco did (removed their own brand of “Iron Brew”) I will go back to Whisky and Lemonade.

      If Lidl can produce “Iron Brew” for 49p for 2 litres, Barr’s are profiteering, costing around £1.50.

      There…. typed.

    74. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      I have Gogglebox on E4 as my background video bubblegum.

      Here’s an idea for STV: do a remake of “Baywatch”, located at Wemyss Bay Beach. A sort of “Take the sea road”.

    75. Tinto Chiel says:

      Sexual innuendo a gogo:

      I’ve always found those rubber ankles quite astonishing.

      Elvis was quite a guy before he “discovered” C&W.

    76. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi TC.

      The first Elvis single I bought was this:-

      I subsequently bough this one, which had been released previously. This one was Stiff Buy14 – the one above was Stiff Buy15.

      Yooz may recall that I posted a link for Jeff Beck’s “Beck’s Bolero” (B side of “Hi Ho Silver Lining”) a wee while ago.
      Found this on Facebook a couple of days ago. QI.
      Beck recorded this with Jimmy Page, John Paul Jones, Keith Moon, and Nicky Hopkins during a single-day recording session in 1966.
      They planned to record a whole album, but contractual obligations prevented them from recording together again, and this was the only song from that session that was released. This Beck/Page/Jones/Moon/Hopkins combination had the makings of a supergroup, and it nearly happened, but they couldn’t find a suitable lead singer, failing to pry Steve Marriott away from Small Faces. Page and Jones then formed Led Zeppelin.

      In a 1977 interview with Guitar Player magazine, Jimmy Page said: “On the ‘Beck’s Bolero’ thing I was working with that, the track was done, and then the producer just disappeared. He was never seen again; he simply didn’t come back. Napier-Bell, he just sort of left me and Jeff to it.
      Jeff was playing and I was in the box (recording booth). And even though he says he wrote it, I wrote it. I’m playing the electric 12-string on it. Beck’s doing the slide bits, and I’m basically playing around with chords. The idea was built around (classical composer) Maurice Ravel’s ‘Bolero.’ It’s got a lot of drama to it; it came off right. It was a good lineup too, with Keith Moon, and everything.”

      Beck, Page, Hopkins, Jones, and Moon were pleased with the outcome of the recording session and there was talk of forming a working group and additional recordings. This led to the famous quip, “Yeah, it’ll go down like a lead zeppelin”, which Page later used, with a slight spelling change, for his new group. Page ascribed it to Moon, while Beck’s and Led Zeppelin’s later manager Peter Grant claimed Moon used the phrase “go down like a lead balloon”, to which Entwistle added, “more like a lead zeppelin”. Group biographer Keith Shadwick notes that forming an actual group at the time “was never a realistic option”, due to existing contractual obligations.

      “Beck’s Bolero” is roughly divided into three parts. The first begins with a reworking of Ravel’s two-chord progression, transposed to the key of A. Power points out that by using a 12-string guitar, Page is able to take advantage of the instrument’s “rich chiming quality to emulate the distinct, orchestral ‘bolero’ sound”. Beck then introduces the melody line on electric guitar with a fuzz-tone effect producing indefinite sustain; alternating between major and minor modes, it is described as “haunting” by Power and as a “distinctive piercing, sinister tone” by critic Richie Unterberger.

      In the second section, the piano, bass, and drums come in and the tension builds. Unterberger describes the third section as “suddenly set[ting] off from the main motif into a beautiful serene section highlighting slide-glissando guitars”, with Beck’s echo-laden slide sounding similar to a steel guitar.
      The fourth section returns to the main melody with overlaid drawn-out descending slide. According to Beck, “the phasing was Jimmy’s idea … I played a load of waffle and he reversed it”. The tension mounts as Moon adds drum flourishes, climaxing with a break.

      The second part begins with Moon’s simultaneous drum break and scream and launches in a different, hard rock direction. “It was my idea to cut off in the middle, Yardbirds-style”, Beck commented, “Keith upped the tempo and gave it an extra kick. It’s like a bit of the Who, a bit of the Yardbirds, and a bit of me”.
      The amply-distorted guitar provides “a thick-toned, descending riff”, according to Power. He also describes the break, inspired by the Yardbirds’ rave-up technique, as “eerily presag[ing] the coming era of hard rock and heavy metal”.
      The third part returns to the main motif with added guitar fills. The melody line is abandoned in the second section and replaced with multiple interwoven takes of guitar effects, including phasing, echo, and controlled feedback. It concludes with a few bars of hard blues rock-style lead guitar and an abrupt ending.

    77. Tinto Chiel says:

      So Alison is now 45 years old? Truly frightening. Ou sont les neiges d’antan, innit?

      Beck’s Bolero is a reminder of how rock stars In Them Days could play thae instrument hings because they had natural talent and they didn’t try to lecture us about fruit loop politics of various kinds to ensure the support of the so-called globalist “elites”.

      Can’t imagine anyone being able to tell Cream what to play or think. Might have found a drum stick or the neck of a guitar in a painful place.

    78. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Remember the days when you bought a 7″ single for the A side. Then wore it out over a week or three, before discovering a humdinger on the B Side?

      1968: The A side:

      The B side:

      Further info…

      In that Wikipedia link, Tim Mycroft is mentioned. I will continue in a following comment, so as not to invoke the 4 link moderation.

    79. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      I actually own the vinyl album from which this comes…

      Tim Mycroft (Sounds Nice):

    80. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      And typing about the late 60s, music-wise…

      I remember seeing this performed live on TOTP but it’s not on Youtube, which has developed into a great archive of what’s gone before.
      I was amazed at how fast he was able to move his fingers.

    81. Tinto Chiel says:

      Yes, quite astonishing (he Lamonted). Dave’s really dropped off the R&R radar and I don’t get the impression he made oodles of moola compared to many of his contemporaries.

      It’s a funny old game, Saint.

    82. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      One more “classic” from Mr Edmunds…

      I’ve never been a jazz aficionado – liked Kenny Ball’s singles and this left-field offering in the 60s by the Clyde Valley Stompers…

      But this I’ve liked since I first heard it, back in the 70s.

    83. Tinto Chiel says:

      Yes, the CVSs (though trad) were good and very tight but times were a-changing and by the 60s they just gave up the ghost, I think

      Haven’t heard Weather Report for ages and that was one of their best.

      Don’t want to upset Dan The Man but I saw a beautiful sawfly zoom past my kitchen back door yesterday. Not quite as big as one I saw on Skye in the late 80s though : that was a Lost World monster which looked rather intimidating.

    84. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi TC.

      I always fancied doing a “mashup” of Weather Report and this:-

      Unfortunately, they’ve already done it.

      So, here’s another single from the 70s that I liked, meaning that it would be a miss.

      I may as well offer this one, which was a hit all over Europe but not in the UK – probably because I bought it.

      Google “Shabby Tiger” for more info about this British band. The info is QI.

    85. Tinto Chiel says:

      Shabby Tiger? Good to see Nadine Dorries had an interesting career before politics 🙂 .

    86. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi TC.
      The vocalist was one of Billy Connolly’s ‘surname clan’ – Henderson Gibson – from Glasgow.

      They had a rather good logo…

      One more bra’ single from the 70s, which I have in my vinyl collection, assuring that it would never make the charts…

      (Check out the comments btl.)

    87. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Is anyone else getting this anomaly?

      When I submit a comment in ‘off-topic’, the page refreshes to the ‘off-topic’ front page.

      I then have to hit the back button, then the refresh button, to see my latest comment.

    88. Tinto Chiel says:

      That Paranoids track had all the right hooks for a big hit right enough: weird how sheer luck and shameless plugging by a friendly DJ can play such a part in chart success.

      The O/T problem you mentioned hasn’t happened to me yet. I’m still struggling with the fact that the links to previous M/T posts are dead when I click on them, like those to Scottish Politics, etc. Never happened with my chanky old laptops, chiz chiz.

      Your mention of crotchless leather balaclavas reminded me of the big contributor in past years who used to talk about Tory “gimps” (and wasn’t “Orange Hitler/Mussolini” for Trump another one of his favourites?). For someone so prolific, his name escapes me now. Eventually Stu banned him for some reason I can’t remember/never knew. Any ideas what he was called?

      Meanwhile, in other news, I hope the Prickly One is well. Haven’t seen anything from him for a long time.

    89. Dan says:

      Re. IT gremlins

      Aye Brian, I have had a similar situation for some considerable time when posting in OT, and will see how I get on when submitting this post…
      I also don’t keep the OT page open in a tab, so each time I try to open OT or click on a direct link to it such as Tinto’s post showing on the right hand side of recent posts box on main page, it takes me to the previous page of OT, which I then have to go to foot of page,, them click newer comments to open this current page, then drop all the way down to pick up that recent comment.
      I’ve completed a complete cache and cookie clear, and even tried switching my laptop off then on again and it still does the same thing.


      The sawflies that frequent my fruit bushes are pretty small, are you possibly describing a wood wasp as they are big and scare the wits out of me.

    90. Dan says:

      As expected, once I submitted that ^^^ post the page refreshed to the previous OT page and I had to work my way back to the foot of this page. If I do that journey too quick I can sometimes not see my post and have to then press Ctrl F5 to hard refresh this page for it to appear.

    91. Tinto Chiel says:

      @Dan: I consulted my Big Boy’s Book of Insects and the one I saw was definitely the female Urocerus gigas, which is sometimes called the wood wasp as you rightly say (or horntail). I see from the tome that there are a good few smaller varieties of sawfly to annoy you and your crops, unfortunately.

      I remember the one I saw on Skye was flying around near a pile of large logs on the edge of a wood, presumably where she would lay her eggs with her ovipositor. Quite what the one I saw in my quiet wee back garden was up to I know not but it/she/they zoomed about impressively in her Alloa Athletic strip for a few minutes in an inclusive and diversity-appropriate manner until I went back to my gloss painting.

    92. Tinto Chiel says:

      @ me 9.21: the mystery man was heedtracker, ya lunkhead!

    93. Tinto Chiel says:

      Just realised who my mystery man of 9.21 was but because I named him my comment is awaiting moderation. His name is like he@dtracker but not quite 😉 .

    94. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Typin’ aboot flying creatures…

      Summer of 2008, Chris and I visited my sister at Straloch. On a warm, sunny afternoon, I, my son and nieces walked down to a swimming area of the River Ardle.

      While we were messin’ aboot, the creature pictured below crash-landed in the river. We managed to rescue it and put it on a stone beside the river.

      After around 10 minutes, it had dried out enough to carry out a successful take-off.

    95. Tinto Chiel says:

      That’s an excellent foatie, Brian. Since it’s in Scotland,I think it’s more likely to be a Gold-ringed Dragonfly than anything else. Positively prehistoric, innit?

      Good for you for restoring it to good Large Hawker health.

      Talking about monsters, about forty years ago, I was working in a library when there were squeals form staff near a window. A cockchafer (steady!) or May-bug had flown in under a hopper window and was discomfiting the lieges. It’s an ugly but harmless-to-humans insect. As for the Devil’s Coach-horse wot I done see in a hearth in Brittany, well……..

    96. Tinto Chiel says:

      Meant to get you back for your 10.30 of yesterday.

      This is a hit from the month I left school (sighs), so it has a very nostalgic place in my flinty old heart. It’s The Move on the cusp of TRANSITIONING into the ELO and Wizzard/Wotever:

      Those of a nervous disposition should look away NOW (sideburn alert!).

    97. Dan says:

      Those big yellow n black dragonflies must have a problem with flight navigation as I had one fly into and get stuck on one of my motorbike fork stanchions when I was cruising up around the Fortingall Yew tree area. (A wee gratuitous tree mention for ami des arbres, Tinto. 😉 )

      Unfortunately it was stone deid by the time I noticed it when I stopped to gnaw my way through a Scotch pie in Aberfeldy.

      * A wee gratuitous tree mention for ami des arbres, Tinto. 😉

    98. Dan says:

      Arse! How I hate typing on a freekin laptop without a proper keyboard plug intae it. Tried to shuffle text about in my post before submitting to keep BDtt’s pedant twitch from going aff, only to forget to delete the line I had copied and pasted leaving it duplicated… Which will probably now get BDtt more agitated than if I’d left my post as it was… sigh

    99. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      I’m cool – it’s Friday night…

      typing about what was in vogue when we left school…

      I was allowed to leave Kirkton High School a month early as I had a firm job offer – as a bank apprentice in the Clydesdale Bank, at 496 Strathmartine Road, 5 minutes walk from the school.

      So, for the last month of school, I collected my Coke, hot savoury and crisps, then went back to the 5th Year common room to have my lunch.

      There was a transistor – tuned to Radio 1. For around 6 weeks, this single was played almost every day, during “Radio 1 Club” at lunchtime. It was never a hit – but today, copies of the single can change hands for £40+.

      Why? Because at one point, Greg Lake was a member of the band. If you listen to the first link below, then compare the vocal inflections in the second link, you can see the similarity of vocal style.

    100. Tinto Chiel says:

      @Dan: that Glen Lyon road past Fortingall must be a good on a bike. I like the Timeline of History pathway they have leading up to the tree itself. That area has almost as many ancient sites/cup-and-ring markings as Kilmartin in the west: very atmospheric.

      Strange, I don’t remember Shy Limbs at all (some rather dodgy drumming, don’t ya think?) but it was great to hear KC again in probably their best bombastic style.

    101. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      As has been uttered in the past, “Friday Night is Music Night!”

      So here are two helpings for you. The first features lady singers – two from the 60s and one from the 70s.
      To get your brain gears grinding, I fancied two of them and saw one of them live in Dundee.

    102. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      The second features three successful singles from the “Pop-syke” genre of the late 60s.

    103. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      And your bonuses for tonight…

      Graham Bonnet before Rainbow…

      Lulu, when I was 16…

      I liked this at the time…

    104. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Och, one last bonus, because it turned up after one of the previous…

    105. Tinto Chiel says:

      That Norma Tanega track was a long-forgotten jewel, BDTT: thanks for the memory. I noticed in the Nancy Sinatra track that the second from left dancer was rather more nimble than the other kinky-booted hoofers (can I still say that?).

      Of course, I knew you’d work Julie Driscoll into your segue, given Your Blonde Thingy.

      Sadly, a flare-up between Smallaxe and Fred over Lulu a good few years ago ruined a beautiful on-line friendship but that’s the tone-free internet for you.

    106. Tinto Chiel says:

      @BDTT: liked you Cap in Hand clip on the M/T yesterday, which sadly seemed to go unremarked.

      It struck me that another of the Reids’ musical musings would be appropriate for many of those in the Scottish Meeja and Jocks like Gordon Ramsay:

    107. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi TC.
      Funnily enough, I was thinking about the song in the link below and I put this comment into my head, before I saw your latest link.

      An example of singing in the vernacular, years before The Proclaimers; a single I bought back in the day:-

    108. Tinto Chiel says:

      Yes, our various accents in Scotland can confuse foreigners a bit. I once asked a Frenchman to pass the milk at a B&B and he said, “What eez theece MULK?” I think linguists call it the “dark” Lanarkshire vowel 🙂 .

      This caused quite a stir ablaw the dyke when it was given a folksy twists with a drone and Kate’s flat Northern English vowels:

    109. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi TC.
      “MULK”. Immediately reminded me of the first link below, where you will find “MUWK” (no pronounced “L”). See also, “Acker Buwk”.

      You may also find this educational:-

      There are plenty of links to explore there (on the left of the page).

    110. Tinto Chiel says:

      Glad you posted those links, BDTT, because I lost your Dundee dictionary from my faves a while ago when a previous laptop died on me without warning. I fear your definition of a TV may well land you in one of Nicky’s Quick Response Gender Tribunals 🙂 .

      Not clear what a payvee is. Could you elucidate?

      You may savour this still-sometimes-heard Lanarkshire construction, as in this sub-Stanley Baxter vignette:

      “Yer no’ a bluenose!”
      “Aye um urr!”
      “No ye murny!”

      P.S. Do they actually say, “Ma pinner’s fell down a cundie” in Dundee?

    111. Tinto Chiel says:

      That should be “doun”, not down: auto-correct/PT or summat.

    112. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi TC.
      A/the payvee/pavey is that thoroughfare provided for pedestrians at ground level, separated from a road by a cribbie, adjacent to which are found cundies at irregular intervals. Such cundies are magnets for fallen keys, etc. Not many young folk these days play games involving pinners.

      That web site is the archived version of the original “St Andrew & The Woollen Mill” site.

      Here are the A Side and B Side of their/his most famous single:-

      Featuring St Andrew with a spoons solo,


    113. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi TC.
      A couple of documentaries you may enjoy:-

      Saint andrew – the myth behind the legend

      High Dubiety – a Dundee music archive compilation film

      A final Dundee music offering for this morning.

      Jump The Q – The Devil Went Doon Tae Forfar

    114. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      “The word on the pavey” harks back to “the word on the street” sections of the original “Police Squad” TV series (only 6 episodes) featuring Leslie Nielsen.

    115. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      “Police Squad” was shown on Grampian TV around 11pm in the early 80s.

    116. Tinto Chiel says:

      Thanks for those, BDTT. Have been having difficulty getting on o Wings: keep getting Bad Gateway or Gateway Timeout messages, although I can access any any other site I want easily. I fear dirty work at the cyber-crossroads.

      Rich fare in those links: will take my time and enjoy them since SWMBO is away for the day.

    117. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi TC.

      The bad gateway has been happening for a period in the afternoon for a wee whiley. It was a tad earlier today.

    118. sarah says:

      Sorry to interrupt the conversation but… I wanted to ask if anyone knows anything about Dave Llewellyn’s court case i.e. is he going to appeal? It looks like another COPFS persecution of a staunch Yesser a la Mark Hirst but this time the sheriff got it wrong.

      I don’t like to raise it on M/T yet as there’s enough ill-feeling on there and I don’t want to stir it up on this matter.

    119. Tinto Chiel says:

      Still working my way through your big archive, Brian. So is St Andrew really a Man of Mystery?

      I suspect you resisted the temptation to play his most sublime creation: but I thought any passers-by might find it orgasmatronic.

      Don’t apologise, Sarah, this is the internet’s Compost Corner where nothing happens, slowly.
      Can’t help you re DL but you might get a better response on the M/T.

    120. Tinto Chiel says:

      Forgot to say that this is a good food-themed insane bookend to the aforementioned, from a bit further north:

      Some unsuspecting cyber-surfer who stumbles into O/T, the Grimpen Mire at the end of the internet, may find it tickles her/his/its fancy.

    121. sarah says:

      The Chiel meister isn’t you, Tinto, is he? I enjoyed it anyway – helping my Scots no end!

    122. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi TC.

      Even I found the Moray mince rap a tad weird.

    123. Tinto Chiel says:

      Still working my way through your archive, BDTT. So, does Saint Andrew still live? What was his connection to Michael Marra? Ou sont les neiges d’antan and is there honey still for tea?

      @Sarah: no, that’s another chiel. Actually, all the womb-bearers in my family find that particular one rather creepy but he is truly unique, like so many others 🙂 . There’s a bit I don’t get when he bumps into his pals in the street but my ear can tune into the rest of it now.

    124. sarah says:

      Tinto: although I tell the Census that I can understand spoken Scots, that is stretching the truth rather!

    125. Tinto Chiel says:

      Dinna fash, Sarah!

      My childhood home was a battleground between My Dear Old Dad, who clung to Scots, and my “self-improving” mother, who for some reason, wanted to live down her miner’s daughter roots. He would go out of his way to annoy her by saying to me, ‘Scuse me for raxing forenenst ye fur the saut” at the dining table or “Yon Bogheid pitch (then home to Dumbarton FC) is a richt cowp!” when I returned from a football match. In his mind, goalies played in “yella ganseys”, a chaffinch was a shilfie, and a thrush a mavis.

      Meanwhile, my mother fumed quietly in a sub-Hyacinth Bucket kind of way while I smirked at his winks 🙂 .

      Aye mind, we’re aa ae oo…..

    126. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi TC.
      As far as I know, he is still around. I believe he knew the Marras through the local music scene. He was an art teacher called Andrew Pelc. More info here:-

      You may find this of interest also:-

    127. Tinto Chiel says:

      Thanks, Brian.

      Have to say I have really enjoyed Pelc’s very dry and, to use an old-fashioned term, arch, sense of very verbal humour, in the style of Cutler, Murray etc. By comparison, Connolly, whatever your political views about him, was a bit of a sledgehammer.

      Meanwhile, as the latest M/T shows, our country circles the effing plughole under our nasty wee deranged imposter…..

    128. sarah says:

      @ TC: happy memories of your parents!

      Terrible situation Scotland is in under nuSNP. It has been one disaster after another since Alex stood down.

    129. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Sarah.

      But we can still rise now
      and be the nation again,
      that fights against her,
      Ms Nicola Sturgeon
      and sends her homeward
      to think again.

      I’m not a poet and I know it.

    130. David says:

      This song’s for Andy Endless on the main thread:

      (The Stranglers “Shut Up”)

      (It is also suitable for plenty of other timewasters on there. 🙁 )

    131. sarah says:

      Oh Brian, I go round and round in my head trying to see a way to get rid of her but can’t find a solution that is quick enough. She has got the elected people either cowed or complicit in her wicked ways.

      But as you say we must rise and keep fighting.

    132. sarah says:

      @ David: as you say, I too wish so many of them on M/T would shut up, or at least that others would just ignore them.

    133. Tinto Chiel says:

      @David. Since we’re Strangling, this track puts me in mind of The Leaderene, and most of the the Lizard Folk like Blair who now inhabit the political sphere:

    134. Tinto Chiel says:

      Or this, for that matter:

    135. Saffron Robe says:

      Hip-hop may not be everyone’s cup of tea, but the lyrics and samples on “Indian Hip Hop Volume 1” are worth listening to. It always amazes me how as Scots we have such a natural affinity with the struggle of other indigenous people around the world.

      I’m a big cinema buff, mainly giallos, horrors, and old B and B&W movies, and one seventies film I watched recently which I really enjoyed was “Black Samurai”. It’s such a zany mix of James Bond, blaxploitation and martial arts! Jim Kelly is so cool as the main character and it’s so un-PC it’s a joy to watch!

    136. Tinto Chiel says:

      @Saffron Robe: wow! That Indian hip-hop (not my favourite style) seems polished, “big sound” and intelligent (NOT a criticism) compared to the traditional USA stuff. So much to enjoy there, including the “Network” track.

      Can I access Black Samurai easily and cheaply?

      I always thought that Take Five was a bit safe and sound jazzwise until I heard Joe Morello’s drum solo on this (4.45 and onwards):

    137. Saffron Robe says:

      Tinto, “Black Samurai” is quite hard to find online, but I watched it on Wi-Fi Movies ( Direct link below, but please note only visit this site if you have an ad blocker installed, otherwise your browser will be overloaded with ads. (I use Adblocker Ultimate which is very good.)

      And I agree with you about the Indian hip-hop album. Powerful stuff!

      Great video, Tinto. I love “Take Five” and “Unsquare Dance”. I grew up listening to modern jazz courtesy of my father. I remember hearing “The Inch Worm” by John Coltrane and thinking, “What on earth is that?” I had never heard anything like it! I also remember being taken to see the Modern Jazz Quartet at the Theatre Royal and was mesmerised by how cultured and sophisticated they were. Archie Shepp was another favourite of mine, and I was fascinated by “The Magic of Ju-Ju”. Both the contents and the cover art!

    138. Tinto Chiel says:

      @Saffron Robe: I’ll have a go at finding Black Samurai without the ads. Might even invest in a DVD if it’s available. I eventually had to buy an expensive copy of Executive Action just to see it ‘cos I hate all the streaming impediments.

      To my shame, I can’t read music so only respond emotionally. Jazz is an ocean of mystery to me so I only like wot I like, innit? I graduated from listening furtively to my brother’s cache of King Oliver and Lu Watters Yerba Buena Jazz Band to Miles Davis and So What? In between I discovered heretical Cream and Spencer Davis group amongst his rack. He had a crappy Dansette record player but it didn’t seem to matter.

      I’m going back to listen to your Indian hip-hop more leisurely to seek enlightenment 🙂 .

    139. Tinto Chiel says:

      Eine kleine Nachtmusik:

      Wonderful off-beats when the drums come in.

    140. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Catching up here.

      Not much in my sphere of interest. Sorry – except “Take 5″and “Unsquare Dance” (signature tune for an Emma Thomson series), which I have always liked.

      Onnyhoo, this band was big in the early 60s, providing backing for various US acts in the UK.

    141. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Here’s 19 minutes of them live in Australia…

      Might as well stick this in – the B side of “Top Of The Pops”.

    142. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Och, gotta include these…

      And they’re still on the go…

    143. Tinto Chiel says:

      Big Bands is it?

      Naeb’dy does big band kitsch better than the schlockmeister himself:

      Love the German speaker @ 2.09 who expresses her surprise and admiration idiomatically. The two Germans who wrote HC and old Dutch Andre himself seem to have more genuine passion for our country than the SNP combined.

      The Rezillos were great, as were their roll-up accessories 😉 .

    144. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      A fine piece of aural videography, TC.

      I still like this though…

    145. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Only popping in to say hello.

      I use Safari and for some reason it cannot/will not allow me to select the menu buttons on Wings. All comes up as some weird kind of Indonesian-style text. So it’s a bit of a palaver to get onto OT, or any other recent thread.

      Anyway, hope all is well with all youse.


    146. Tinto Chiel says:

      @BDTT: nae wunner! I always find the btl comments touching and sad by turns.

      We had a family holiday in St Valery sur Somme about twenty years ago. There’s an old archway there where I was told a Scottish army which was supporting Jeanne d’Arc passed through. I haven’t bothered to follow this up but it’s a nice thought. Incidentally, about 300 years earlier, William The Bastard sailed from there to begin his conquest of Anglo-Saxon England.

      @ Ian B: are you the mad conspiracy theorist wot takes the piss out The Yoons on the M/T? If so, knock three times, ask for Samantha and take your seat by the camp fire.

    147. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi TC.
      Quote therefrom:-
      “Joan was led into the besieged city of Orléans on April 28th, 1429, to the celebratory skirl of the Scottish pipes. The tune played for her was “Hey Tuttie Taiti”. The same tune that had marched Robert the Bruce into battle at Bannockburn a century before. The same tune that Robert Burns would set to his poem “Scots Wha Hae” centuries later.

      Her escort consisted of 60 Scottish men-at-arms and 70 Scottish archers led by Sir Patrick Ogilvy of Auchterhouse, hereditary sheriff of Angus. And her standard, depicting God as King of Heaven, was made a few months previous by Hamish Powers, a Scotsman living in the city of Tours.

      Hi IanB.
      FOWIngs in Dow’s after the 18th September rally?
      Quote therefrom:-
      “The significant number of Scottish commanders in the following entry is a good illustration of the degree to which Charles VII relied on noblemen from that kingdom, long allied with the French monarchy due to a common history of disputes with the English. In other portions of these campaigns, troops from Spain, Italy, and various other regions throughout Europe served in Joan of Arc’s armies, a situation which had likewise been a common element in French Royal forces throughout the Hundred Years War.”

    148. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      My typing went a tad awry there.

      “Hi IanB.
      FOWIngs in Dow’s after the 18th September rally?”
      should have been after
      “…throughout the Hundred Years War.”

    149. Tinto Chiel says:

      I’ve always wanted to climb Liathach but somehow family life and work got in the way, although I’ve had great times climbing on Skye, often with great trepidation.

      This young chiel had a great day for his climb, but some may need a drink just to watch him sprachle up the path just to AVOID the pinnacles:

      Don’t know where he got his translation of Mullach an Rathain (long first A) from. No Polis on the hills in them days (or any day) so it probably means “summit of the wee fort” or a hill which resembled such a circular construction.

      Reminds me that climbing can be a profoundly spiritual experience.

      May The Force be with you all.

    150. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Och well, I’ve got my buses booked for 18/9/22, allowing for a couple of hours in Dows with Ronnie after the rally.

      Onnyhoo, been meaning to do this for a wee whiley. When I was DJ in Jaspers rock club, back in the 90s, one of the regulars suggested that the easy listening genre was worth exploring.

      I have explored, discovered and rediscovered stuff from my earlier life that I (still) like. My particular interest is instrumentals from the 50s, 60s, and later.

      Thus, I will post some links to stuff that is in my many 2 hour “snooze” playlists on my leedle iMac.

      Tonight, I will start with Ron Goodwin. This first one is a bit weird. It’s probably his best known tune.The weirdness comes in because it’s a theme from a British movie involving an attack by a Mosquito squadron on a Nazi heavy water plant in Norway, played by a German orchestra.

      The second is just a nice relaxing melody.

      The third is an interesting construction of various melodies within the overall piece.

    151. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      I’ve done one Munro – Ben Lawers, on a school Geography field trip around 1968. The walk up was fine but the walk back down was done in a different direction, on a path that seemed to slope away rather alarmingly on either side.

      I’ve had a hankering to do Schiehallion since I found that it is visible from the Law in Dundee. I don’t think my ageing body is up to the task now, though.

      It says at this web site,
      “It takes the form of a broad ridge, with the famous conical appearance only apparent from across Loch Rannoch.” As you can see from the first link above, “the famous conical appearance” is visible from Dundee, 44 miles away.

      If you didn’t know, Schiehallion was used to calculate the mass of The Earth.

    152. Tinto Chiel says:

      That 633 Squadron performed by a German band was seriously weird. Reminds me of an incident involving my best man, who one English Bank Holiday was down in the Leeds area for a business meeting the following day and ended up in a pub where The Battle of Britain was being played on the TV.

      The saloon was pretty empty so he started talking to a guy around his age with a Yorkshire accent. As they gradually got more “relaxed’ he noticed his new-found friend getting excited whenever a Spitfire or Hurricane got shot down on the pub TV. Puzzled, he asked why. Turned out the guy’s father had been a Luftwaffe POW who hadn’t returned to Germany after the war and he had retained his loyalties.

      In a similar vein, I was watching a documentary on Monte Cassino a good few years ago and was amazed by a German paratrooper’s interview when he replied to the interviewer’s questions in a very strong Yorkshire/Lancashire accent (as a Scot I find some difficult to distinguish). Once again, he was a POW who had ended up in Northern England and had stayed put after the war.

    153. Tinto Chiel says:

      Binge’s Elizabethan Serenade always reminds me of another of his compositions:

    154. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi TC.

      That Watermill video was rather pleasant musically but I found the graphics a strange mixture of visually pleasing and unsettling at the same time.

      Another helping of favourite instrumentals…

      and a bonus

    155. David says:

      Musical joke:
      A pub pianist offered to play any song the customers could name. He knew thousands of songs, and had never been stuck, unable to recall a tune. Until…
      …a customer who asked him to play “Paddy Me Boy”.
      The pianist gave up, he didn’t know it, and asked the customer to sing it for him. (Click on link below for the tune.) 🙂

    156. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi David.

      I haven’t clicked the link but, I’ve heard it before. It’s gotta be “Chatanoogoo Choo Choo”.

      I have linked to this in the past but a combination of Scottish country ethnic and syndrums appeals to me.

    157. David says:

      Today’s Trussmas Day soundtrack:
      “Meet the new boss, same as the old boss”
      (The Who – Won’t Get Fooled Again)

      “No matter who you vote for, the government always gets in”
      (Bonzo Dog Band)

      “I predict a riot”
      (Kaiser Chiefs)

      ‘Are you not entertained?’

    158. Tinto Chiel says:

      @David: or possibly this…..

    159. Tinto Chiel says:

      Desperate search for an antidote:

    160. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      The Answer to Barry McGuire…

    161. Tinto Chiel says:

      Wow! I found that creepy and bizarre but maybe the singer’s appearance had something to do with it………

    162. Marie Clark says:

      Hi folks, I have returned to the fray. Had to take some time out for wifely duties, in sickness and in health and all that. Other half not been too well but been up in Edinburgh for a month for his treatment, but it’s great tae be hame.

      M/T as usual I see. When Rev puts a new post up occasionally, comments start away quite sensibly. and then he appears to pontificate to us lesser mortals. Deary me it’s wearing. I spend a lot of time scrolling past, or don’t read at all. Nice to see that some of folk here still managing to keep OT going. I miss the fun that we all used to get in the run up to 2014. Sad, but there we are.

      I always try and have a wee look in on OT nice to keep in touch. Anybody know how Nana and Hacka are doing? I hope that they are well and thriving.

    163. sarah says:

      Nice to see you again, Marie. I noticed you on some twitter or was it Iain Lawson’s blog the other day.

      Sorry to hear your other half has been so unwell. I had a scare myself this year – polymyalgia struck overnight and my husband could hardly move let alone do anything useful in the practical line. Happily steroids worked their weird magic.

      Nana is very active retweeting on Nana [@McChew] usually but has been quiet since 4th September.

      I don’t know if Hacka was at the Inverness march – I was sitting holding Sara Salyers dog during the speeches and didn’t arrive in time for the march itself so didn’t wander around meeting people.

      Re quality of btl – I did a request the other day on the Contact tab to the Rev to boot out Christopher Pike who is so personally unpleasant, and I may have named Andy Ellis as another one who doesn’t help. Could have said John Main and Mark Boyle too but didn’t. I just read our friends comments really – Dan, Tinto, BDTT, Dorothy.

      However I am currently hugely inspired by the research and the subsequent campaign – Proclamation and National Assembly. These are practical steps to put we the people back in charge and will pressurise Scot Gov/SNP as much as Westminster. So I try to spread the word to sign the Proclamation – local paper and the National, local Yes group, Highlands Yes group, Highland Alba etc etc. SNP members are signing which is encouraging. What do you think?

    164. Marie Clark says:

      Hi Sarah, You would have seen me commenting on Iain Lawson’s blog. I’m always hoping to see some of the regulars here maybe commenting too. Only one I can recall seeing is socrates mcsporran now and again. It’s a decent blog to comment on and most of the times the debate is good, and always civil, even if you are disagreeng with someone else’s point of view. Very refreshing. You’re right about the usual suspects on the M/T.

      Sorry to hear that you suffered from Polymyalgia, that’s and extremely painful condition. One of my friends had it and the steriods fairly helped her. I hope that you are enjoying better health.

      Thank you for the update on Nana and Hacka. Inverness is a bit far from the southwest, wouldn’t have made it anyway owing to my Husband;s health. Won’t make the Yestival in George Square either, but I hope that it is well attended.

      At least some good souls are trying to progress Independence by other routes SALVO and SSRG in particular. Funny how what they have done the past couple of weeks no one has got to hear about, seems to be a complete news blackout. Surprised, not really trying to deny any publicity at all. Mind you if you had been bunged £9 million you might do as the SG asks.

    165. Tinto Chiel says:

      Great to hear from you, Marie. Was wondering how you and your husband were. Hope things improve for you both.

      As Sarah says, I believe Nana still dishes it out to the deserving on Twitter. I think Haka, like me, is a bit semi-detached and concentrating on domestic remoulding/musing on the ineffable.

      Hope we can all meet one day somewhere in a better Scotland. I’ll be on bongos and Ian B on slide guitar.

      One of your favourite singers, I think, Marie, and one of my favourite places. What could possibly go wrong?

    166. sarah says:

      I bet Hacka is fishing! Perfect temperature and weather and plenty of mackerel about. Also very restful – can’t be thinking about land-based troubles when you’re on the water.

      Have other Off-topic residents signed the Proclamation? I know an Inverness Alba activist got 99 shares when she put it on her facebook, and I know of 8 people who my message got to signed up, including active local SNP branch members. So despite The National’s blackout the message can get out. I just hope it won’t take a 5 year vigil like the 1988 Constitutional Convention to achieve independence!

      I won’t be going to the Glasgow gathering on the 18th – we are still isolating from public transport having avoided covid so far and it is too far to drive.

      I am fit and well, Marie – it’s my husband who got polymyalgia. Happily he had got the tatties planted first but he wasn’t fit enough to build a deer proof fence so the stag has had the raspberry canes, carrots, and now the runner beans! Dan will know how painful that is!!

    167. Marie Clark says:

      Hi Tinto, the other half is doing all right at the moment. He’s not out of the woods yet, but so far, so good. More blood tests and scans to come, everything crossed that it keeps going the right way. Thank you and also Sarah for your kind wishes.

      Well remembered Tinto, the incomparble Ishbel MacAskill, beautiful, thank you.

      Sarah, sorry I picked you up wrong, but glad your other half is doing okay. Sorry about the garden. It’s a fair scunner when you do all the hard work, watch it grow, and some animal comes along and nabs it before you can. Send an SOS to Dan, maybe he can help. that’s if he’s not up on the roof or some other DIY. Take care.

    168. Tinto Chiel says:

      @Marie: all the best.

      Mebbe I could get BDTT on bass and Ronnie A on Moothie for our independence celebrations but can’t promise onyhing 😉 .

    169. HACKALUMPOFF says:

      Hello all, just popped in for a look around. I see you are asking after us. We are just ticking over and fighting the cynicism. I didn’t make the Inverness march as I also have Polymyalgia(PMR). I thought I had it beat but it keeps flaring up.
      I’ll be in Glasgow on the weekend of the 18th and as there isn’t any marching, I’m hoping to be at Freedom Square. Nana can’t make it as she will be dogsitting but she says hello from twitterville.

    170. sarah says:

      Hacka: not fishing? I felt sure you would be. Mind you PMR is so debilitating – Peter couldn’t get the boat out especially as he tore his rotator cuff [upper arm tendons/muscles] just before the PMR set in. The steroids have worked wonders – does your GP know about them? Though we suspect that once the course of pills finishes the PMR will be back.
      Good that you are going to Glasgow – well done. Are you on the Inveryess bus?

      And are you and Nana enthused about the Salvo discoveries about the Constitution? And the Edinburgh Proclamation/National Assembly activity?

    171. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi peeps.

      Gotta few comments to address here.
      First of all, TC, Eh’m a moothie and stylophone non-expert. I’d like a melodica to play around with.

      Nana and Hacka are gems. In 2018, in advance of the Inverness march, my son, Chris, and I undertook a road trip up through Glencoe,via Kyle of Lochalsh, then Stromeferry, then Dingwall, ending up in Invergordon.

      The plan was for me to have the pop-up tent in Nana’s garden and Chris to crash in the back of the Peugeot 807.

      Ronnie A was at Nana’s and we had a very pleasant Friday evening, partaking of various malts. Me and Chris ended up crashing in the settees in the conservatory.

      So much diversion going on in the M/T page, iye?

      The primary offenders have been identified as trolls umpteen times. Why doesn’t Rev Stu pre-moderate them?

      Onnyhoo, back to my favourite instrumentals, seeing as James Last elicited no comments.

      BTW – these instrumentals use human voices as instruments.

      This one’s a Beezer. Apparently, it was TOTP’s house backing singers, The Ladybirds, who provided the vocals here.

      “Another track produced and arranged by Wirtz, the 1966 single “A Touch of Velvet – A Sting of Brass” credited to The Mood-Mosaic featuring the Ladybirds, became well-known in Germany as the theme tune for the Radio Bremen television show Musikladen, and was used by some radio stations and DJs in the United Kingdom
      as an ident, notably Dave Lee Travis on Radio Caroline.

      Gonna call a halt to the instrumental voices theme coz something just popped into my mind while I was refilling my whisky jar.

      I think this is my earliest memory of an electronic organ being used on a Scottish record…

    172. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      And while we’re on the Tenor them, gotta feature this by Dundee’s own… Unfortunately not on Youtube. So this celebration instead…

    173. David says:

      Tinto, Brian, thanks for the videos.
      I know it’s ‘social media’, but ach I still feel pretty antisocial at times. Not going to post any videos today, the news about the Queen’s ill-health makes it seem inappropriate to be posting a lot of the snarky stuff I’d normally post.
      No BBC tv here in Brazil, but I’ve got CNN and local news channels to keep me informed about the ‘Queen of England’ (sigh). Yes, that phrase was used today by a Portuguese tv channel, “a rainha da Inglaterra”.
      Apparently the ‘English navy’ was in Brazilian waters yesterday, to pay their respects at Brazil’s 200th anniversary of independence. ( That was from one of the Brazilian channels.)
      Independence for Scotland can’t come soon enough, I’m not getting any younger. 🙂

    174. Tinto Chiel says:

      @BDTT: Wishbone Ash I’d almost forgotten about. Refreshing to see a band who could actually play their instruments.

      That Ladybirds video was very nostalgic. I think we were generally happier in those days and not so divided by the schisms which sunder us via (anti-) “social media”.

      David: I’m presuming your Brazilian Portuguese must be pretty good by this time. Been trying to learn some of the European variety for a future holiday but Duolingo only does the SA variety, I’m told.

    175. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi TC.

      I rewatched the “Mood Mosaic” video after reading your comment. You’re right enough. Coincidentally, my brainbockers were working overtime a couple of days ago and I came to the conclusion that the three consecutive years that were out in front in terms of cultural and musical achievement and innovation in my lifetime were 1966, 7 and 8.

      However, rewatching that video also provided me with the answer to who inspired Claudia Winkelman’s style. I first became aware of Ms Winkelman in the early 90s (I think), in the days when STV/Grampian had programmes running through the early hours of the morning.

      On a Friday evening/Saturday morning, there was The James Whale Show, then a programme that was a female equivalent of a “lads’ show, featuring Claudia Winkelman and Davina McCall. I liked Claudia because her visual presentation was pure 60s. It hasn’t changed in the intervening years.

      So, the Mood Mosaic video gave me the answer – Cathy McGowan. Specially her appearance in this short vid-ehe-oh…

      As a bonus, this came up in my Cathy McGowan search. I found myself watching the whole 9 minutes. #2 was so Belgravia it was painful. Cathy’s hair was shorter than I remember so must have been early in the Ready Steady Go days.

      I will leave you with a couple (so I don’t exceed the 4 link limit) of music videos from a well-ignored singer from the 60s. I had her album on vinyl but it was stolen years ago. Usenet is handy for finding mp3 downloads to replace lost vinyl…

    176. Tinto Chiel says:

      FTS, film-pickers: came upon this film noir classic the other night.

      Normally I would give a wide berth to anything with Victor Mature, whom I often regarded as a muscle-bound hulk devoid of depth but he is great in this. Add some wonderful B&W cinematography, a swaggering Alfred Newman score, some great NYC locations and the most terrifying masseuse wot I done ever see (she would have been a great Nurse Ratched and watch her first scene when she comes to the front door).

      Robert Siodmak sure knew how to make ’em.

    177. Tinto Chiel says:

      @BDTT: yes, I noticed Cathy in the Ladybirds vid you posted. CW really gets on my nazzums for a host of reasons whereas Cathy never did. Maybe it’s down to the shiny shampoo and smug gushing.

      What the Gove happened to Billy? I only vaguely remember her from that time but looking back she had quite a voice. Maybe she had too many principles.

    178. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi TC.

      You’ll remember this from the 70s…

      Not the original but Billie live in 2016.

      Och, here’s the original…

      BTW: the graphic in that video is of my stolen album.

    179. Tinto Chiel says:

      I remember the original Billie single but not Hello’s.

      Good to see she’s still alive and kicking.

    180. Tinto Chiel says:

      Why couldn’t I have had a granny like this?

    181. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Tinto Chiel at 11:04 am.

      You asked,
      “Why couldn’t I have had a granny like this?”

      That comment reawakened a blip in the back of my memory.
      I’ll link to a pic. However, before you look at the pic, I should explain that all through the 90s, I was DJ at various rock clubs. Jaspers from 1989 to 1995, My own clubs Caesars, in the Colosseum, 1996 to 1998, then The Quarry in the Tay Hotel, now Malmaison, 1998 to 2000.

      A fair number of Goths were regulars and I got pally with a couple of the feminale goth of the specie. One of them, Fi, introduced me to a band called Inkubus Sukkubus, who tended to included a cover on their, mostly, self composed CDs. Here’s an example…

      Another example…

      One more link, to one of the tracks on the album “Vampyre Erotica”, which Fi introduced me to. Got me researching “Lilith” which basically says that the whole story of Adam and Eve is a lie. Go to Wikipedia and do a search for “Lilith”.

      So, the pic that appealed to my sense of whatever.
      The pic below appeared on my Facebook Newsfeed and I immediately thought of Fi and her pal at my funeral.

    182. Tinto Chiel says:

      @BDTT: the Goths I encountered in my job always struck me as gentle and imaginative types who generally were more free-thinking than others.

      I wouldn’t have trusted the Tory Boys in the debating club, though 😉 .

    183. Tinto Chiel says:

      Hush, little baby, don’t say a word:

      This film’s unique, like so many others……

    184. David says:

      Hello Tinto, I hope my Brazilian Portuguese is ok by now. I can understand it fine, both written and spoken, but speaking it is still a bit awkward.
      The accent(s) here are bigly different from Portuguese from Portugal, though. There is some official multi-nation language committee which standardises Portuguese in all the nations that speak it, but I think the Portuguese believe “We invented it, so we’ll use it & write it however we like.” 😉 Definitely stick with the Duolingo lessons, the locals will be happy you’ve made the effort.

      On a similar note, living outside UK it becomes apparent that world English is US English, not British English. Sheer force of numbers, and spread of American culture ensures it – awesome, dude!

      Musical interlude provided by the Mamonas Assassinas:

    185. Tinto Chiel says:

      I don’t like going to a country and not trying to speak the lingo in the usual holiday situations but I managed to find a European Portuguese language course, so no excuses for me.

      Those young men look quite well-adjusted 🙂 .

      Killer beans? Where did the naked bit disappear to?

      Everything’s so confusing these days…….

    186. David says:

      Ahh Tinto, so wise and yet so naive! ‘Mamonas Assassinas’ is a bit of wordplay, a double entendre as the Europeans say. Think ‘A nice pair’ by Pink Floyd.
      ‘MA’ means ‘killer fruit’ and also ‘killer boobs’.
      The band were hugely popular in Brazil, but they only released one album before they all died in a plane crash, in 1996.

    187. David says:

      To honour the accession of our new King could we rename a “citizen’s arrest” to “subject’s arrest”…

    188. Tinto Chiel says:

      @David: many thanks for the explanation. The delights of idioms! Reminds me literally of Chesty Morgan/Deadly Weapons from the 70s.

      You don’t know how lucky you are to be out of BBC/MSM range in Brazil: levels of compelled grovelling and insanity are off the scale. Oh, to be an undiscovered tribe deep in the rainforest!

      The BBC have corralled a specially-trained group of voxpop operatives to recite, “I’m not a monarchist but…”

      Beam me up, Scotty.

    189. Tinto Chiel says:

      Apropos of nothing but I like it:

    190. Tinto Chiel says:

      Just to emphasise how conformist many people have been browbeaten to be, a refreshing piece of HUMOUR from an obviously malcontent Scot who should have been dragged to the Tower as a scum-sucking Bolshie:

    191. Jock Scot says:

      Hi Folks. Has anyone been in contact with Cactus in the last 24 hrs?
      Please respond a.s.a.p.

    192. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Jock.

      Looks like his name has been taken off the “banned word” list. He hasn’t been in here for ages.

      Try Ronnie.

    193. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Jock.

      I typed,
      “Looks like his name has been taken off the “banned word” list.”

      I thought wrong. Your message above is timed at 6.53pm. I got an email notification at 22.35, which must have been when it was taken out of pre-moderation and appeared here.

    194. Jock Scot says:

      Hi Brian, If anyone hears from him get him to call one of us as the plods have him on missing list.

    195. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Jock.

      I got his mobile number from Hevva Beccy Woss. I’ve left him a voicemail and text.

    196. Jock Scot says:

      He left his phone which is why actual sightings or encounters from early hours of Saturday are needed.

    197. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Eight years ago next month…

      And a wee Scottish bonus…

      Nicola may have extinguished the fire but there are still some glowing embers.

    198. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Bummer, Jock.

    199. Jock Scot says:

      The dude in the cowboy hat has touched base. Thanks Brian. Hope everyone else is as feckin’ angry with the state of things as we are and are doing as well as they can do.

    200. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Jock.

      I guess he had gone walkabout, as he is wont to do?

    201. Jock Scot says:

      Hi Brian,
      I reckoned that was what had happened and his friend didn’t quite appreciate his Crocodile Dundee tendencies. Best wishes.

    202. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Jock.

      At least I got his phone number out of it!

      You going to Edinburgh on the 1st and Yestival on the 8th?

    203. Tinto Chiel says:

      Came across this wee vid under some dry leaves near the end of the internet:

      There’s a Wallace’s Cave in a gully and above a burn near me which is actually quite likely to be genuine.

      I think the presenter does a pretty good job of presenting the complexity of Lowland Scotland at the time.

    204. Marie Clark says:

      Sorry to hear that Liz G has died, another hard worker for independence gone and not able to see us achieve our goal. Probably be same for my at my age, cause it sure doesn’t look as if it will happen anytime soon. What a shame RIP LizG.

      Looks an interesting video Tinto, I’ll come back to it later when I have a wee bit more time. Hope everyone is well in the family.

    205. Tinto Chiel says:

      Unfortunately, Marie, I think pegging out before Scotland achieves independence will be the fate of many of us so it’s always sad to hear of the death of someone like Liz g who contributed a lot to on-line forums in general and, of course, Wings.

      AOK at Tinto Towers but the grand-tinies are trying to dodge the bullets of hand, foot and mouth, winter vomiting virus and measles. It’s only a matter of time. Hope you and yours are fine and that Mr Ginger Rogers is better 🙂 .

      The same guy above has a good one on the Wallace Monument (and many other Scottish history topics) which shows how the Britnats even in the 19th century were trying to co-opt WW as a “British” hero. Mind you, the same types in my Burns Club were telling me with a straight face in 2014 that Robert would have voted No.

      It’s a funny old game, Saint.

    206. Tinto Chiel says:

      Just because. The comments btl are often switched off because of racist comments.

    207. Tinto Chiel says:

      I’m filing this under So Naff It’s Wunderbar 😉 .

      Apparently, the mental lyrics were fashioned by John Major and Giorgio Moroder after an all-night bender in Moscow, Ayrshire.

      The one and only disco ballad?

    208. David says:

      For Liz Truss:
      (Robert Calvert – “I Resign”)
      It’s only 37 seconds long, so hopefully no-one else resigns while it’s playing…

    209. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Don’t know why, David, but for some reason your comment reminded me of this band from the 70s, who were big in the USA. There may have been some connection with “American Graffiti”. They’re still on the go and doing live gigs. (I joined their Facebook page.)

      I bought this single at the time of release and it still stands up. To me, it is in the same genre as the links I will paste in after it. It also features Wolfman Jack, where the “American Graffiti” connection comes in.

      The story behind this next link…

      Apparently, the song was written for Showaddwaddy but they rejected it. So the writers put together a bunch of session musicians to record it. The singer seen in the video, didn’t actually sing – he was miming. The actual singer was a guy called Paul da Vinci.

    210. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      However, Paul da Vinci did have his own hit:-

    211. Daisy Walker says:

      @ Marie Clark… ‘LizG has died?’

      Please say it isn’t so?

    212. Marie Clark says:

      Hello Daisy, yes, sad to say it is true. Another stalwart of the independence side, gone an still no sign of being any nearer our goal.

      Going by the recent utterances of the NUSNP it ain’t gonna happen anytime soon. Maybe they’re hoping that we auldies just fa’ aff the twig and they can then dae whit they like.

    213. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      I think I have have shared this here at some point in the past but it’s a good track.

      A cover of a well known song…

    214. Tinto Chiel says:

      The Rev: “… it in Off Topic where nobody cares.”

      Wot? Everyone wants to hear the anthem of a state which disappeared in 1453 🙂 .

    215. Dan says:

      @ Tinto

      Ach, that might be a first non factual post by Stu on Wings, coz I jist cannae believe naebdy cares aboot a braw Pike Jalfrezi recipe. 😉

    216. Tinto Chiel says:

      Dan: Dinna greet, ma mannie. I mind o’ it well.

      A prophet is without honour in his own country, ‘n that 😉 .

    217. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Of course, there’s always this proposed national anthem…

    218. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Onnyhoo, in other news…

      It’s surprising?/evident?/obvious? that ‘leaders’ worldwide are ignoring scientific evidence, when it comes to ‘climate change’.

      From evidence garnered from ice cores taken from Arctic glaciers and mud cores from the bed of the Pacific Ocean, it has been proved that over the past 2 and a half million years, there have been 25 ice ages.

      Each cycle lasts around 100,000 years – 90,000 years of glaciation and around 10,000 years ‘interglacial’.

      We are now around 11,500 years into the current interglacial, since the end of the last ice age.

      From these core samples, it has been found that an increase in CO2, to levels above 300 parts per million, appeared to have been the trigger for each ice age. (The current figure is around 370 parts per million.)

      This was accompanied by extremes of climate – volcanic eruptions, floods, wildfires, droughts, and so on, in the period of 50-100 years prior to glaciation.

      Once the temperature rise reaches a certain point, the amount of melting ice flowing into the North Atlantic, will halt the Atlantic Conveyor, which means no more Gulf Stream. Remember that the UK is on the same latitude as Hudson Bay.

      Therefore the ice sheet will spread southwards from the Arctic, and during the last Ice Age, it reached the English Channel.

      The potential effects are so horrific, that ‘world leaders’ are ignoring the science, so as not to ‘frighten the horses’.

      “When will we ever learn, when will we ever learn?”

    219. Tinto Chiel says:

      @BDTT: that guy was quite funny. Wonder what happened to him?

      When I was wee the two most depressing musical intros were “Sing Something Simple” on a Sunday night and The Bloody Archers at any time.

    220. Tinto Chiel says:

      @BDTT: never mind about the climate. Give us back our 1.6 billion years!

    221. sarah says:

      The Rev has a nerve – who does he think he is to send the dross over to Off Topic? Off Topic is for civilised, pleasant people.

    222. Tinto Chiel says:

      Saw four beautiful redwings in a field yesterday. Hoping to see more fieldfares when they arrive from Scandinavia. And, oh, a waxwing?

      Not quite the same bird in this song but as usual Julie produces a truly wonderful performance:

      My Dear Old Dad always referred to song thrushes as mavises and blackbirds as merles but I fear the female bird feeding her young in the film clip is actually a mistle thrush.

      Never mind: but I’m still hoping for a BDTT Proud Pedant’s Badge 🙂 .

    223. sarah says:

      @ TC: just saying today that we haven’t seen any redwings yet. Waxwings aren’t regular with us but nice and easy to spot when they come as they stay happily perched when one is near unlike the others which scare so easily.

      Nice to hear that your father called the birds mavis and merle – sounds very poetic.

    224. Tinto Chiel says:

      @Sarah: yes, waxwings are truly amazing-looking birds but we don’t get them often WIA. There was a lonely one about ten years ago, which was very strange, and then more recently two cherry trees were covered in a large party of them.

      My Dear Old Dad also called greenfinches “green linties” but I won’t tell you what he called me on occasion 🙂 .

      @BDTT: thanks for that. I’ll raise you this:

      The Rev ain’t a poetry lover but since nobody comes here anyway, I won’t fear the hammers.

    225. Stoker says:

      For the music buffs in here, just in case you missed it. Announced yesterday:

      Stealers Wheel co-founder, Scotsman, Rab Noakes has died aged 75.

    226. Tinto Chiel says:

      Hadn’t noticed that, Stoker. Last time I saw him was when he was taking part in the Martyn Bennett “Grit” concert a few years ago.

      Sadly I don’t think he ever crossed the floor to be a confirmed Yesser.

      Stealers Wheel produced some great memories.

    227. Stoker says:

      Yeah, TC, i like a few of theirs. Was always aware of them but they never really struck a chord with me until i watched the film ‘Reservoir Dogs’ which included Stuck in the Middle With You, then i seemed to take to them. Even though my favourite tracks from that film are Little Green Bag by The George Baker Selection and Hooked On A Feeling by Blue Swede. Top stuff! 😉

      I didn’t know this either, until i read about him last night on the BBC text pages, that he was a big contributor to the BBC’s music. Quite a musically gifted chap by all accounts.

    228. Tinto Chiel says:

      Yes, SITMWY was an instant classic but when Stealers imploded I think there were a lot of legal issues and animosity between some of the former members. Gerry Rafferty said that these problems were part of the background to “Baker Street”.

      Rab was very talented musically but anyone who gets too close to the toxic BBC is bound to be affected in some way. I noticed Ian B on the M/T quite rightly having a go at Pat Kane, an achingly right-on type who seems to have drunk deeply from the Globalist Kool-Aid dispenser.

      The Good Ship Independence has got a lot of such barnacles on its hull and the captain on the bridge is wilfully steering it in the wrong direction.

    229. sarah says:

      Tinto, I just googled green linties and discovered that there is a Scots language version of Wikipedia! Did you know?

      As for blackbirds – my favourite songbird, rich and tuneful. The poem was spot on.

    230. Tinto Chiel says:

      Didn’t know that, Sarah. Must take a look. Don’t think The Rev would approve and if there’s a Gaelic version he might spontaneously combust 🙂 .

      I can recommend Amanda Thomson’s “A Scots Dictionary of Nature” (Glasgow, 2018): a treasure house of Scots expressions regarding the natural world. One of the names for a chaffinch recorded there is brichtie or bricht-lintie, incidentally. Shilfie is another name I’ve often heard for it. Always talk to farmers: they have held on to their Scots better than almost any other group. It’s the same for crofters (if you can find any of them these days) and Gaelic.

      Might be worth a Christmas hint……. 😉 . It’s only about £12.99, probs less if you go on A____n.

      Yes, RS Thomas could be a bit bleak at times but he was an excellent observer of nature.

      Lovely day WIA. After my comment on redwings yesterday I saw a huge flock of them on farm land near Strathaven so today I’m going out fieldfare watching.

    231. Dan says:

      Test post again… trying with archived link removed.

      @ RoS

      It’s been mentioned many times on here previously and Stu also tweeted about it a day or so back.

      She / Her Red Lines Klaxon

      From 17th October 2016…

      Nicola Sturgeon to publish plan for Scotland to stay in single market after Brexit

      And to add to the outrage, she’s only wearing fookin purple tae!

    232. Tinto Chiel says:

      @Dan: yeah, she is a shameless aerosol. My spelling ain’t so good.

      I’d wear a Motherwell FC scarf but I might get mistaken for a Gryffindor sophomore or whatever insult can be thrown at a bottom-dredging nativist moohowler like wot I am.

      Green, heliotrope and white? ‘Mon The Hibees!

    233. sarah says:

      I hope you had a good birdwatching outing, TC. Nothing of interest birdwise to report here – wet today. Got the stag problem again – and now he has taken to browsing the gooseberry bushes – I had fondly hoped that he didn’t care for them. Thanks for the Scots Dictionary of Nature recommend. I have a Scots-Gaelic phrasebook by my bed for reference.

      You are right about the repository of language being crofters and fishermen – I was just saying that to my husband this morning. Not only language but all the old ways and culture. We’d all be a lot better off if we had kept their skills and language.

      I am torn between tears and rage today at the self id committee. They are wicked, criminal abusers – how dare they take away female’s identity, respect, safety? I despair.

    234. Tinto Chiel says:

      “I am torn between tears and rage today at the self id committee. They are wicked, criminal abusers – how dare they take away female’s identity, respect, safety? I despair.”

      Everything you said there, Sarah, but particularly these above. I have daughters and granddaughters and this alone means I’ll fight this crapola all the way.

      Re today: I knew an old boy who’d fought in WWII, dirty stuff in Yugoslavia and Greece, who reminded me of an old saying, “There’s aye snaw on the peesie’s eggs.”

      I think this means hope in adversity, a kind of Scottish Valley Forge. Of course, Imelda, being a self-seeking, superficial moron, couldn’t understand such sentiments. Nevertheless, I”m hoping today will open many people’s eyes to the reality of what we’re up against.

      P.S. No sign of fieldfares or waxwings WIA: I swear they toy with us 🙂 . BTW, a doe roe and her two kids ate Mrs TC’s final rosebuds of the year on the trellis climber. I know ‘cos I was up with a fit of the sneezes at 0315 recently and saw them.

      Beautiful things all the same…..

    235. sarah says:

      We miss those people who went through so much in the two wars. They learnt some very harsh lessons yet always behaved so kindly, in my experience, to those of us who had done and suffered so little in comparison. I live in Seaforth country so there are many families here that had relatives in POW camp for 5 years after the Highland Division’s capture at St Valery.

      All those men, by the way, had a very short way with raiding deer!

      My stag started off with my roses last year – didn’t do too much damage so we were quite pleased to see him. It was when he wrecked the raspberry beds that we began to feel less happy – if only our old neighbours were still with us, crack shots and expert butchers, every one.

      As for the self-id, I pray that a general awakening is happening – the newspapers are picking up the stories at last. The perfect outcome is for the SNP members to oust the maniacs but I fear that isn’t possible due to the party administration being out of the membership’s control.

    236. Tinto Chiel says:

      The Seaforths were a great regiment, like the Cameron Highlanders. I became interested in the 51st HD at St Valery-en-Caux and even went there while on holiday. It’s a very tight harbour with cliffs on either side and I can’t imagine it as a feasible place to take thousands of soldiers off. A cynic might think that the Highlanders were strung along just to keep the fight going to save some face. At least de Gaulle never forgot their sacrifice and he had fought alongside them. Not so sure about the British government…….

      Have you read St Valery: The Impossible Odds by Bill Innes (Ed.)? It’s mainly a translation of the experience of two Gaelic bards after the surrender. “They were expendable” springs to mind. Grrrrrrrrr!

      I have heard that some military police were sent to a Seaforth position in WW1 because they had been getting quite bolshie at being continually at the front and taking the brunt of the action. It’s said these MPs simply disappeared. Who knows, maybe they enlisted with the Highlanders?

      I was fortunate to have worked with two men in particular who had some “memorable” war experiences. I only gradually got to hear a few of these over the years, since they were pretty reticent.

      “Peesie man” was recruited by British Intelligence (ahem) and ended up being parachuted SOE-style into Yugoslavia to liaise with Tito and his partisans and organise anti-German resistance, a very dangerous job because you never knew who might betray you. He ended up sitting at the same table as The Marshal at a prestigious conference to decide a combined campaign of action. He was so impressed with him that he joined the CP after the war.

      The other lied about his age to join up and had a terrible war. The Desert, Italy, Normandy and the Rhine Crossing, stumbling upon Belsen and seeing its horrors. He told me fairly recently, with tears in his eyes, that he and his men had fed some of the starving prisoners and they had died because their bodies could not cope with the sudden change in their diet. He still regretted it towards the end of his life, despite his courageous war service.

      I wonder what these two men would think of the state of Scotland today under our Great Woke Leaderene?

    237. Tinto Chiel says:

      Forgot to append this, although you probably know it already: the words are by Hamish Henderson and the artist is Dick Gaughan.

      It’s not to everyone’s taste because of the slow tempo and Dick doesn’t start to sing until about two mins in but it’s an extraordinary attempt by a guitarist to mimic some of the characteristics of bagpipe music.

    238. sarah says:

      I have noted that book title “St Valery: the impossible odds” as I haven’t read it. One wonders why the Highland Division was chosen to be sent off as part of the French command rather than kept with the rest of the British troops.

      The experiences of your two work colleagues are extraordinary – the type of thing that could be the subject of a film except the reality is almost unreal. How sad for the chap who tried to help the Belsen prisoners – counselling might have helped but such services are underfunded so people just have to struggle on.

      I would love to see so many of our MSPs and MPs forced to hear from the brave people who have done so much. Imagine Emma Roddick with her self-id disability of Borderline Personality Disorder being faced with your chap’s story. And then explain to him why she thinks it is fine for children under 16 years to self-id as trans.

      My husband knew a local Lochbroom man quite well who had been in the Chindits [from the Cameron Highlanders] – again an awful experience – on the retreat to India they were sent off in twos or threes, living off the land. He said they watched to see what the monkeys were eating and then did the same. He was quite a tall man but weighed 6 and a half stone when he got back across the border. Amazingly he lived to be 96 years old, dying just last year.

    239. Tinto Chiel says:

      While a student, I worked in a summer job with a man who, like the highlander you knew, had fought in Burma. He also was reduced to six and a half stone, this time by amoebic dysentery. Burma was a dreadful theatre of war anyway but after Singapore the soldiers knew surrender to the Japanese wasn’t really an option either.

      Particularly in the last three years I’ve thought of the “freedom” these men were supposedly fighting for and I look around and see the corrupt and authoritarian bunch in control of our country at the moment while our children become poorer and poorer in a country which could be the wealthiest in Europe if The Great Helmswoman would use just one of the many mandates she’s been handed.

      As old Wilfred mused, “Was it for this the clay grew tall?”

      Think I need a hill-walk to clear the cobwebs.

    240. sarah says:

      They are the most pathetic, incompetent, brainless and/or evil, perverted bunch in the SNP/Greens at Holyrood. No, our fellows who fought Hitler were not fighting for such people as these to be setting the rules in Scotland. It is a disgrace.

      Please God there is something brewing to get shot of them.

    241. Tinto Chiel says:

      Indeed, but without a whistleblower in the Salmond Affair, it’s unlikely.

      Hate to indulge these unwashed delinquents 🙂 but………

      I always loved J_J’s twanging bass.

    242. Tinto Chiel says:

      Speaking of bass-playing, the nicest of this Bad Girls’ band was pretty good too:

    243. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Inspired by a closing gag on ‘Family Guy’ just now…

      If gulls don’t eat white food (they’ll eat anything), why do they produce only white $h!†?
      Similarly, when we humans eat everything under the sun, why is our $h!† always a shade of brown?
      What happens if a human only eats green vegetables for a week. What colour of $h!† would result?

      And a couple of musical links to accompany this comment…

    244. Tinto Chiel says:

      Would never had remembered Tin Tin was the group but remember the tune well.

      So Weird Al was ahead of his time with that track?

      BTW, Brian, I have noticed several times a delay between your date-stamped comment and its appearance here. Wotisgoingon?

    245. aLurker says:

      @Tinto Chiel

      I have not been visting, or posting here for a long, long time, but glad the wee man is back on the case now.

      Thanks for that blast from the past.
      to unexpectedly see Joan Jett AND Lita Ford… and they were soo young !!!


    246. Tinto Chiel says:

      @aLurker: you’re welcome. It’s a good video and Lita looks particularly crazy.

      Maybe more old names will reappear btl once The Rev gets back into his stride.

    247. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      BTW, TC, The Runaways were a fine band.

    248. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi TC.

      No idea re: the time difference. However, what has happened in the past couple of months, is that firstly, the email notifications re: the Rev’s new posts ceased, while I still received them for new comments in ‘off-topic’ and ‘Quarantine’.
      But, since last week, the email notifications for o-t and Quarantine have ceased.

    249. Tinto Chiel says:

      “The Runaways were a fine band.” I thought you’d have Cherie on your famous List of Blonde Bombshells 🙂 .

      IIRC, Stu said on the M/T that he had no idea about the lack of notifications, etc, either.

      A grim feeling about today to rank with Nikla’s White Flag of January 2020…..

    250. Tinto Chiel says:

      Yes, Lita was alaways so understated, wasn’t she ? 🙂 🙂 🙂

      Showing my ignorance here, but I’ve never even heard of Ellen Foley but she can belt them out, innit?

    251. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi TC.

      She was the female vocalist on “Bat Out Of Hell”, eg “Paradise By The Dashboard Light”.

      On this live version, Karla DeVito takes the Ellen Foley role. (They are pals.)

      Both together…

    252. Tinto Chiel says:

      Ah! That explains my ignorance: not a Meatloaf fan.

      Amazed these women apparently survived the rock/pop music world, a real meat-grinder of an exploitive industry.

      Good night ladies; good night, sweet ladies; good night, good night.

    253. Tinto Chiel says:

      Two blondes for the price of one, Rosemary Clooney and Brigitte Bardot:

      The wee Turkish guy shaking his booty with Brigitte is Dario Moreno, a Turkish multi-lingual atrist who sadly died quite young.

      The cod (geddit?)-Italian lyrics are rather amusing.

    254. Tinto Chiel says:

      Just in case anyone is looking for something a bit different to watch, devoid of Anglo-Saxon class-ridden Downton Abbey-style dreck and facile American wham-bam stars-and-stripes drivel, this series has just finished its fourth season.

      Weimar Germany has never seemed so thrilling. sleazy, dangerous and seething in political ferment:

    255. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi TC.

      If we’re going French, here’s another couple of blondes. The first is English singing French; the second is French singing French.

      I will follow shortly with my Belgian post, after I’ve done my research.

    256. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi TC.

      The Belgian post.

      The single in the first music link was released in 1977. I bought it coz it fitted in with the punk/rock I was playing it at the Bowlin’ Alley at the time. It was on ‘Lighting Records’.

      However, a year later, after Elton Motello hadn’t made the UK charts, another version was released, by Plastic Bertrand. On the label, it said “Produced by four Belgian Businessmen”.

      That became the hit. It used the same backing track that had been used for Elton Motello’s verion.

      The interesting thing is, that a third version was released, by Elton Motello, but with slightly different lyrics. I got my apprentice DJ to buy a copy of it but I don’t have one. It, once again, used the same backing track.
      Somebody on Discogs actually commented that their are two version of the Elton Motello version.

    257. Tinto Chiel says:

      Serge wasn’t a looker, was he? Hope you noticed Smallaxe and me on saxes in Vanessa’s clip.

      What a strange man/band Elton M. was. Have to say I preferred Plastique B’s version.

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