Wings Over Scotland

Just recently I’ve been quite busy emailing with a friend. We first met when we both lived in Australia but she’s originally from Argyll and now lives in Cornwall with her Australian husband + kids. We’ve kept in touch all these years through our shared hobby, writing fiction for our own amusement. We’ve been swapping our efforts for years now. She mostly writes chatty, funny, romantic boy-meets-girl type stories. (I write unchatty, brooding boy-meets-girl type stories, must be something in the Scandinavian genes :-D)

About 18 months ago we briefly talked about the Scottish referendum. She doesn’t have a vote but she was interested and I gave her links to WoS and other pro-indy websites.

A couple of days ago I got my friend’s latest boy-meets-girl story.

She’s an enthusiastic Cybernat and he’s a dyed-in-the-wool Labour journalist in the MSM. In the tradition of romantic fiction, they first clash but feel attracted and after several complications get together. She learns to tone down her “cybernattery” and he learns to let go of Labour and be a YES voter. The story ends on 18/19 Sept with them both celebrating a YES victory.

My friend (who doesn’t live in Scotland) had obviously done her cybernat research. The heroine talks about Elmer Fudd (Iain Gray), more pandas than Tory MPs, Rosa Klebb/the Lamentable, JaBa being heckled by Clydeside trade unionists etc. Even the Secretary of State for Portsmouth got a mention!

My friend’s story (all about 80 pages of it!) is a bit Mills&Boon but it’s a fun take on the indy debate and I told her to send it to Women for Indy. Their leadership might be a bit highbrow, but lots of even serious, intelligent, highbrow women like that type of light-hearted, romatic fiction for entertainment. I’m a fucking political anorak and I do!

Oh, and my friend is now a committed YES voter, if she had a vote. She said that you couldn’t make up BT, a campaign as inept as that sounds like fiction.

I wish I could share her story/novella with you all Wingers but she’s a bit shy and hasn’t given me permission.

Here’s a very naughty facebook page – it’s ostensibly pro the union, they used to be Better Together St Kilda.

link to facebook.com

Desimond

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Albamac
It’s bright, exciting and of my parent’s generation. I do do my best to cater to a broad taste. 🙂

Glad you enjoyed

Archie [not Erchie]
I’ve not even scratched the surface. Never intended this situation but its just Better Together had painted a target on their backs, front and everywhere. 🙂

That might be my last video posts on this thread, to make sure others get a shout. 😉

Paula Rose
What about a thread full of squirrels? Quality only. 🙂

I just don’t get folk who can’t see the relevance of ska. Ah ,well. 😉

Round of applause,IMO. 🙂

Lost me there?

@ Paula Rose – KUKSA seems a good name. Something everlasting and dare I say it off topic.

Now probably LumiLumi is wondering why I am asking but its quite simple. I happened upon websites dealing with outdoor wild camping and I am using this summer to do that here in Scotland. I do not like convention so was looking at traditional cooking/eating/drinking stuff and Kuksa popped up. Who better to ask than our own lumilumi. Thank you

I would be quite happy sitting with a birch bowl supping tea or something stronger knowing that my country is independent. Not for home use but having said that one of my Christmas presents was an Olive Wood pestle and mortar. I love it.

A party – let’s dance

link to youtube.com

I just embedded a vid which has now disappeared. A colourfull 1950’s Hollywood spectacular, nothing subversive. Strange that, eh, but isn’t presentation important…….

Nice 🙂

For a moment I thought the Quarantine link had been removed, only to notice it was now called “Off Topic” (which is somewhat ironic, since that’s a very “on topic” title!)

Anyways, glad to be able to come in here without crashing my browser from comment overload now 😀

Hope everyone is having a nice day!

FAO anyone who’s coming to the Counting House on Friday – I’ll bring a roll of labels for anyone who wants to identify themselves to others. The night will fly-in, and we don’t want to spend half of it hunting for people we’ve come to know but have never clapped eyes on.

Maybe you’d prefer to make your own, but I’ll have the bingo pen handy anyway, and if you’re really keen I’m quite happy to write your name across your forehead (unless you have a really long name and/or a very small head).

@Ian Brotherhood

I have to get a later flight than expected ( damn you Easyjet and your Summer schedule changes!) so wont get into Abbotsinch until near 9 bells. Will be heading into town from there so although later than expected, I shall be there for sure. keep me a label if you can although I suspect you may need reinforcements.

I Left My Hat In Haiti (from the musical Royal Wedding – 1951)
link to youtube.com

This one is for you Albamac and for myself. 😉

From WOS Twitter-

Eddie Izzard’s No gig now (still) down to the last few (hundred) seats! Come on, folks, have pity. pic.twitter.com/21oyOZThCS

I had a wee look at the Festival Theatres page about the gig and noticed this –

“PLEASE NOTE THAT ‘SCOTLAND, PLEASE DON’T GO’ IS A COMMERCIAL HIRE OF THE FESTIVAL THEATRE EDINBURGH, PRESENTED BY BETTER TOGETHER.”

No wonder it’s not selling well. It’s not an Izzard gig, it’s a BT gig featuring Izzard. 🙂

I think I get to post another for that answer I just gave. 🙂

TED JARRETT – (LET’S TWIST) SLOW AND EASY
link to youtube.com

Desimond says
“so wont get into Abbotsinch until near 9 bells. Will be heading into town from there so although later than ”

Abbotsinch?
Haven’t been around these here parts in a while have you stranger?

Are we still under DDOS attack, ’cause my posts keep disappearing?

@John King

Now that Glasgow Airport if playing the UK card and not showing the Welcome to Scotland signs anymore ( and the WH SMith and its Great Britain Merchandise) well Im reverting to the good old days and its Abbotsinch for me!

Frankie Vaughan – The Green Door 🙂
link to youtube.com

@Calgacus –

Ha!!

The man who wants to do it will be watching this thread (I hope) and making his own judgement on what to do. Ain’t my shout, but I would hate for anyone who’s made arrangements for accommodation etc to feel uncomfortable on the night – in any event, if the man turns up with his gear, it’s unobtrusive and most folk wouldn’t even be aware of it – he’s already assured me he wouldn’t want to broadcast the precise location.

As I wrote to him earlier, it’s a tricky one, but worth thinking about. Seeing people having a good time, and listening to what they have to say in a less formal atmosphere has got a lot going for it.

In any event, all feedback valued. Cheers.

I don’t have a problem with it, Ian. Is anybody heading into Glasgow on the train from Largs? If so, I will maybe see you on the train?

Can we get streamed from Brechin? (hilarious grinning smiley thing rolling on floor making a mess)

Darling Ian – they still wonder if the penny black is a good idea in these parts.

Hi Guys

I have no probs re live streaming on Friday. the spooks shall be there in person anyway.

I claim my fiver!

Are you MI5/6 or CIA or MOSAD or NKVD?

I publish live my name and photo (albeit 90 deg clockwise. (worked in Almaty!)

Look forward to meeting all WoS. (even CameronB!} and Morag again. ( Same surname)

We shall win this time!

We have a war to win.

you shall be in Glasgu?

Ian,

Could be a privacy issue for other customers as it isn’t in a private room.

Cameron,

Satellite connection is great. 10GB connection, no need for phone line.

re proposed Counting House livestream:

Here’s the latest I have from the man. Sounds reasonable enough.

‘…the issue of privacy is a non-issue as I don’t need to point it at the
general public bar area. There is nothing stopping me chatting to people
with their back to a wall. Also, if we take over one of the little side
rooms with WoS people then it doesn’t become an issue, but we can always say
to WoS who turn up if they mind being in live stream shot. If they say they
do not want live streamed then I just avoid then.

Also, for people who are maybe doing other WoS stuff else where and want to
call in and be on live stream we give them a skype address to call and we
pickup on a separate computer/laptop and just live stream them. I have setup
a skype address called indylive1 that you can give out to people.

Will anyone be bringing a laptop/I-pad they’re prepared to lend for the evening to assist?

@Cactus –

Done.

Looking forward to Friday. Should ve able to make it early.

If anyone is interested, I intend to bring a bag of ‘Aye Right’ business cards. Everyone is welcome to grab a pile to hand out over the next six months.

Point the undecideds and soft ‘no’s to enlightenment and we’ve got it won.

See you all Friday.

rab-the-doubter – re site probs, Stu tweeted that he was aware site has been twitchy and he’s checking it out.

@twenty14 –

Having pondered your suggestion re labels etc, I have one question – is your skin allergic to bingo pen ink? If so, I will write your name on my forehead so you can be reminded, if need be, who you are – if I write it on your own forehead you won’t be able to see it.

@Ian Brotherhood
best write on my forehead and everytime I visit the loo I’ll know who I am. If you stick it on yours everyone will think they’re me by about 11

@Paula Rose –

Absent friends will be honoured on the nicht. We shall make a point of raising one to you at 10 p.m. sharp – feel the love in Brechin.

IMO, the ‘progressive’ measures outlined by Fiona Hyslop (first link) are ALL ultimately DOOMED to prove ineffective. or will under-achieve if Scotland votes no and decides to REMAIN at a STRUCTURAL DISADVANTAGE entrenched by policy guidance issued by the RTPI. Possibly a topic for future discussion?

Ambition for Architecture and Places Across Scotland
link to rtpi.org.uk

Independence and its Impact on the Scottish Property Market
link to ihurerblog.org

Professor Colin Jones wins RTPI Prize
link to ihurerblog.org

The Scottish Cities Knowledge Center
link to rtpi.org.uk

HS2 Debate: The fast train south is a strain not a gain.
link to rtpi.org.uk

link to planningresource.co.uk

P.S. Remember, place marketing is apparently an ‘acceptable’ response to the neo-liberal gutting of society. Think “I love NY” and fake shop-fronts. ‘Place’ is important but focus on measures to promote development (improvement) and sustainability MUST take account of underlying factors, IMO.

P.P.S. Is it possible to achieve positive results when conditions will not allow for such to happen? The UK planning system performs a PROCESS but what is it’s PURPOSE? – Managing property bubbles to benefit establishment landowners milking the system?

The cost of government borrowing is important to the property market as this links to how much domestic investors are prepared to pay. The required returns from property are based on the ‘risk free’ rate of return from lending the government money plus a risk premium. This risk free rate of return can be seen as the yield on ten year government bonds (gilts), so this is an obvious platform for property yields. The lower the income yield acceptable to investors the higher is the value of an investment. At the moment in the UK yields on 10 year bonds are at just under 3%, in Ireland they are at a surprisingly low 4% whereas in Greece with its widely publicised problems they are over 10.5% and that’s an improvement on where they were. There is no direct correlation between public debt levels and government bond yields but they have to be borne in mind. – David Hunter is a Scottish-based international property consultant, and an Honorary Professor within IHURER.

P.P.S. Remember, it is the FABIANS that control both the RTPI and the planning education system. What is their GOAL?

P.P.P.S. Should planning policy guidance be under democratic oversight, or will we just leave it in the hands of those who gave us British Labour?

IMO, the RTPI is Scotland’s FABIAN JAILOR!

Just saying.

Vote YES

As you were. 🙂

Caroline Corfield
I’ve searched for the Saint Andrew & WM track “This Is The Gemme”, without luck I’m afraid. I think it sums up what I might have taken from Johnathan Livingston Seagull. Or was that from Metamorphoses? It’s good to share. 😉

Saint Andrew and the Woolen Mill – Dinna Ast Me (Eh Dinna Ken)
link to youtube.com

Saint Andrew and the Woolen Mill – Ananinginaneana’
link to youtube.com

Kendrick Lamar – It’s Alive (Elevate Remix)
link to youtube.com

And for the submission, remember what is to come in Glasgow.

Chumbawamba – Hanging On The Old Barbed Wire
link to youtube.com

Thought for the day – “They break our legs and we say thanks when they offer us crutches”.

Just in case folk missed the click-through link. 😉
link to rtpi.org.uk

Paula Rose
There are a few more on utube. How’s this though? It is amazing what creativity is possible despite apartheid.

Lou Donaldson – Gravy Train 🙂
link to youtube.com

A utube search for Gravy Train, is always a giggle. 🙂

Rev , I would just like to apologise for not asking about Ronnie on this thread , I forgot you had put up a thread where we could go O/T etc .

Ronnie if you end up on this thread , welcome back I have been missing your charm and wit .

Just bought a box of 250 plain white stickers for £1 in Morrison’s, and some nice felt-tip pens.

Please remember to be on the look-out for Eddie Izzard – he may try to sneak in when his show finishes early due to lack of laughter. If so, he’ll be shown the door – ‘You’re barred Izzard!’

Oh dear… left work early and just starting on my first pint 🙂

If your going to plant a sticker on me Ian, then you’ll have to do it yourself, cos I might miss by then… Don’t worry, I won’t scream ‘VANDAL’ if you do!

@Ian Brotherhood – what time will the apples be delivered to the fruitshop …… repeat ..what time….. will the apples be delivered to the fruitshop …over

You are making me so jealous. How do I access livestreaming?

Zillions here now Just talkin 2lobeydosser

@Better Together
Just thought you might be interested in hearing about my latest bus journey, this evening. I know, I’m over 45 and still travel by public transport but I think you shouldn’t dismiss what I have to say too lightly.

The bus was reasonably full as folk headed out for a night out in Edinburgh. Anyway, there were these two guys in their early twenties talking about serious life issue. Employment prospects, wage rates, housing prospects. You know, the WEE THINGS. That said, they were definitely a bit stunned at first, when I went and sat next to them. See I just had to ask them if they knew that there is more oil off Scotland’s west coast, than there was in the North Sea.

Both: Yes.

Angry Scot (me): Do you know why we can’t develop it for Scotland’s benefit?

Both: No.

Angry Scot: TRIDENT!

Both: Really?

Angry Scot: Do you know how to get rid of it?

Both: No.

Angry Scot: Vote YES in September.

Both: (smiles beaming) Oh don’t worry mate.

I also noticed a good few folk smiling privately to themselves. So lets face the hard facts of life. Your time is up and your prospects are toast. Once the Scottish voters get to see what a fraudulent, imperialist sham the British state is, I think it is a safe bet they will do what is best for their future and that is of course to vote for Scotland.

Vote YES

Any comment Better Together?

P.S. I’m annoyed I forgot about the McCrone Report. I’ll need to remember that the next time, eh Better Together?

@Ian Brotherhood

Apologies for no show….Easyjet decided on a.plane change that meant total journey went from 4:15 to 22:30….im no even hame yet. Will get you that pint one day I promise. Hope you all had a ball and took photies

Not wanting to confuse matters further, but if ZAMM’s investigation in to the VALUES of QUALITY, VALUE, LOVE and BALANCE was a bit lame for yah, how about some radical metaphysics? 🙂

link to rschain1.tripod.com

Desmond, I’m sure all of us could offer similar accounts all day. 🙂

Word for the day: HARMONY

Good night at the Counting house, I’ll be able to put a face to some of the posters now.

The firemen strippers Ian had ordered were a bit of a disappointment though.

Desimond
Why not pass it on? Your smile that is. 🙂

To explain why I think the Edinburgh Festival Theatre is the grossest example of place marketing I have ever seen.

IMO, Place Marketing, in the sense of urban and regional development planning, is all about making bold statement about the uniqueness and prestige of place.

IT HAS NO CONCERN FOR SUBSTANCE

Glitzy, glamorous building with a big glass front so that all the poor people standing across the road at the bus stops, can see what goes on in proper society.

I don’t think the Director like my description of it as “a gaudy fishbowl full of puke”. Perhaps you can see why I did not advance to any heights in the profession. 🙂

P.S. Those bus stops service some of the poorest and most deprived parts of Edinburgh.

…

It’s Sunday night [applause]… and its that time of the week again [loud cheers]… welcome everyone to ‘TOP OF THE SCOTS’ [loud cheers and applause]

We have many treats for you tonight folks and we are going start right away with a new entry into number 10.…… No, not that number 10 you cheeky Scot-Popsters [Laughter]…
Will You?… Will You Dance Wi Me? [crowd cheer and chant ‘YES‘]…

link to youtube.com

…That was fantastic [loud cheers]… Now you all know the fantastic David Bowie? [cheers]… well, he’s no here, cos he’s living the American dream [sighs… then boos!]… but we can go even better [cheers]… Its up 18 places to number 9 and new for 2014, it’s ‘Yew Choob presents’ with their cover of ‘Ashes To Ashes’ [deafening cheers]…

link to youtube.com

…What a hero that squirrel was! [loud cheers and applause]… Now its time for you all to get those gas lighters waving in the air… it’s the wonderful Angus Roxburgh with ‘To Be Ourselves’ at number 8 [cheers]…

link to youtube.com

[cheers] Plenty of tears in the eyes around the studio there [applause]… and no doubt you all at home too… Next up with a song now in its’ 3rd week in the top ten, we have a simply incredible treat at number 7… it’s the beautiful ‘Panama’ [loud cheers]…

link to youtube.com

…Wow… simply incredible [cheers and loud applause]… unfortunately folks, we have no song at number 6 this week [‘Awww’ from the crowd]… as David Cameron couldn’t?… or wouldn’t be with us to perform a duet with Alex Salmond [Very Loud Boos]… but… [boos continue]… [has to calm crowd with hand gestures to stop boos]… but… holding at number 5, it’s the Sensational Alex Salmond Band… [boos turn to cheers] GO ON… FEED THE PANDAS! [cheers and laughter]…

link to youtube.com

[Loud applause and cheers]… Those pandas won’t go hungry [Laughter]… now for another new entry… at number 4… It’s ‘Never Vote Labour Again’ [cheers]…

link to youtube.com

[Loud applause and cheers] And now I think we have ‘Something Better’ at number 3 [Loud Cheers]…

link to youtube.com

[loud cheers]… What a treat we have for you now… new at number 2… Its’ the one… it’s the only… and with your ’Bad Romance’ [cheers]… IT‘S ‘LAAAAADY ALBAAAAAA’ [crowd go crazy]…

link to youtube.com

[cheers] …We all love Lady Alba [loud cheers]…

Now, its’ that moment you have all been waiting for… it’s straight in at number 1 [loud cheers]… its Paolo Nutini [croud erupt]… and its ‘Iron Sky’ [crowd erupt again]…

link to youtube.com

…[cheers and loud applause]… well, That’s been this weeks ‘Top of the Scots’ [loud cheers]… thanks for tuning in… and remember… keep Yessing [cheeky wink & gun gesture with hand at camera to loud cheers and applause… and fade-out]

trying to change my avatar – any help please

clever me – sorted

That was the night that was…

Good stuff. Did anyone happen to do a rough head-count?

Ronnie’s Raffle raised £76, and I’ve got it. (Thanks to Mrs King for doing that.) What should I do with it? Just stick it on a Yes vote and keep the winnings for the victory gathering? Any other suggestions welcome.

Great pleasure to see so many of us together, and to meet some old friends.

Anyone who wants to do it on a smaller scale, but more regularly, we have another Glasgow venue ready and waiting – just need a minimum 20 names to get it kicked-off, then it would be weekly thereafter for as long as we want it.

Musicians particularly welcome, so – if you’re up for it, please let me know in here.

Have a braw weekend abody, and a special thanks to everyone who bought me a Guinness – I’ve just selected a good book and am off to spend the rest of the day in the lavvy.

Hoots!

Brussels, Austerity march, the other orange army riots, water cannon & tear gas used, funny how the report is buried in bbc Europe.

link to bbc.co.uk

Conan_the_Librarian

Pray tell us more. Did you get a video?

Daft me. I’ve been dottin’ aboot, posting bits and pieces about last night’s shindig on the end of threads here and there, and have only just now discovered this fab new “off-topic” thread.

Apologies to Rev Stu.

And big thanks to Ian Brotherhood for organising the night. Hope you got happily engrossed in your book, and that it was a reasonably short one.

Thanks to Alex Taylor for an extra bunch of “Aye Right” cards!

Thanks to whoever it was (Alba4Eva? Another Lurker?) who gave me a shiny new “Proud to be a Cybernat” badge after I lamented I had lost mine on the bus.

Thanks to Ronnie for his beautiful handmade blue rose. A very touching gesture. It is sitting on my mantelpiece now, and will provide a useful talking point whenever I have friends and family round.

Thanks also to TJenny, Cath, Twenty14, Kininvie, Lobeydosser, Scaredy Cat and her young handsome son, Liz,
Rod Robertson, John King and John King’s Neglected Wife, and all the other wonderful Wingers we met last night.

Looking forward to the next one already.

Thanks most of all to Rev Stu for starting all of this off in the first place.

And of course thanks to Margo, whose sad and premature departure added a poignancy to the evening that only served to make us all the more determined.

Hmmm. Daft me again, posting twice.

My comment awaiting moderation?

A bbc journalist at the Counting House reported there were over 8 people there last night,although 2 were tourists and then of course the journalist herself – bringing the actual total to 5. She claimed to have learned her crowd counti g skills at last years Independence March

Posted this on the Cat released from bag thread but things have moved on quickly from then.

I am up for manning a Wings stall at Strathy in June at Strathy, anyone else wants to chip in?

Is eugenics really dead? Are labour rights and wages protected by those who care about the likes of you, me and Jo one the street?

CAUTION: The New York Council on Foreign Relations is not an impartial source. 😉

Review of Postmodern Imperialism: Geopolitics and the Great Games
by Jonathan Reynolds
November 9, 2011

Not only liberals and progressives but Tea Partiers view with helpless disgust the death-dances of the Neros on Wall Street, enriched to the point of requiring, one imagines, Roman-style emetics to clean the palate for more, more, more. The Detroit fireman might wonder how strange it is that such supposedly superior representatives of the species can be stupid about the terrible spectacle they make…….

Only the final chapter of the American imperial story has yet to be written: how will it finally collapse, and who, and/or what, will replace the “Empire-and-a-Half”? China? A somehow more peaceful pact between China, Russia, India, and/or some other players? ……

The “great game” referred to the geopolitical strategy of England versus Russia to control Afghanistan as the gateway to its colonial prize jewel, India. A significant length of the ancient Silk Road snakes through this notoriously shadowy but key geostrategic country which has been embroiled repeatedly since then in blood and intrigue. Today, it is the blackened griddle on which cooks America’s longest-lasting war. Described by earlier writers, Walberg abbreviates this “great game” to “GGI”, lingering on it only briefly as the early imperial period when, in addition to India and the Suez, England ran the puppet show in which Afghanistan, Iran, and the remains of the Ottoman Caliphate jerked on the strings as “nominally independent political formations”; Kipling’s “‘white man’s burden” lay over colonial lands “on which the sun never sets” – as far from the imperial isle as wealth extraction required……

But men like Immelt and Blankfein and Dimon cause great things to happen. They are the real leaders of the world, the helmsmen – not presidents or prime ministers or other satraps. They are of consequence. Of substance. They make history. The work they do is for us. Well, not us. Humanity, in the abstract. Making sure the best genes are passed on – “best” determined by who swims in those rough green seas of money and eats the smaller fish. As Leo Strauss advised, channeling Hegel’s Master-and-Slave, life is a fight, might makes right. They don’t make huge amounts of money for their own sake, nor for our sake, but for the sake of the species, altruistically breeding the best that humankind can be. The determinant for who can pass on their genes is who piles up the most money. Is there any better type of human than the Patriotic Neocon or the Banker? A bit unfortunate for the IOs.

P.S. The “Empire-and-a-Half” refers to the USA and Europe.

P.S.S. I wonder what Boris Johnson would say about this sort of piffle?

link to foreignpolicyjournal.com

Hi all,

I just want to say sorry for drinking far too much on Friday. If I offended anyone please accept my sincerest apologies.

@rab_the_doubter
I recommend you have the ginger beer next time. They even put a slice of lime in it!

Now I know why they do not let me out very often. 🙂

Just poped out to do a quick shop and I think I just destroyed the poor checkout assistant’s universe.

Angry Scot (me): Do you mind if I ask you a personal question?

Assistant: You can ask but it depends on how personal.

Angry Scot: Have you tuned into the independence debate yet?

Assistant: Yes and I think Scotland is better off as part of Britain.

Angry Scot: OK, this really isn’t the right sort of environment to be going into such matters. Why do you think this though?

Assistant: Too poor, too small, too weak. (paraphrased)

Angry Scot: OK, I would be carefull in relying on sources such as GERS, as the UK finances are a maze. For example, the shopping I am buying here will be accounted to a London Head Office. Then how do you separate out all VAT going to the Treasury?

Assistant: I think Scotland should remain a part of Britain because it has more CLOUT that way.

Angry Scot: So you are happy with TRIDENT?

Assistant: Well, er, em, yes (and as a afterthought), though I’m not sure if I am happy having them here.

Assistant: Scotland won’t be able to use the pound.

Angry Scot: Sterling (£) is a freely tradable currency that any nation can use. The Bank of England does not have authority over who can or can the £ and Scotland owns at least 8% of the BoE.

Angry Scot: I think you need to perhaps look into some of your ‘facts’. Be careful with the MSM, as out of Scotland’s 37 national and regional newspapers, only five of them are owned in Scotland and none of them support independence. Remember also, the BBC is the STATE BROADCASTER. Why not try WoS for an alternative view and links to evidence?

All done in a friendly fashion, though I thought the poor lad’s head was going to burst, judging by the redness of his beam-er. Pats on the back and statements like, “he is right, this guy knows what he is on about” and quite a few happy smiles. Must have been about a dozen observers. 🙂

Just an observation. This poor Unionist was in his early twenties, obviously a student from England and described himself as “currently domiciled in Scotland”. I asked him to be careful with his host’s democracy. Not sure if he got that one. 🙂

@ Better Together
Your tea’s out!

Paula Rose
Paula, copy and paste as usual, then delete everything from the link, before the WWW.

I’ll need to get hold of some cards and such, though I do like a good public debate to spread the VIRUS about. I’ll need to start carrying a soap box. 🙂

@The Man in the Jar, 3:49 pm.

I had signed up for the Strathy event following the link you posted on another thread. I posted to thank you for it but I’m not sure it made it, don’t know if it was issues with the site or me not paying enough attention to what I was doing.

I totally agree, we need Rev Stu blessing ( 😉 ) for setting this up, just in case he has anything else planned for that time. Thinking about it, it could be a good time to distribute the wee blue book if it is available.

@Aidan
I think they put a slice of lime in everything there.

One of them put one in my Pepsi until they noticed my extremely disapproving icy glare…

@john king
A song??? Me?!!
You really want me to get us kicked out of the bar with my attempt at singing?

I can see the newspaper headlines the next day:
“Vile Cybernat terrorists unleash new sonic weaponry upon unsuspecting innocent members of the public! Scenes of horror in Glasgow!”

@Partician, TMITJ
I’ve registered and signed up for 4 tickets (for family).

I’m only a 10 min drive away and subject to Stu’S OK I’d be happy to help on a Wings stall.

Did anyone else hear Gordon Brown there? – ‘sometimes the smaller teams can come through and win’ – and here was me thinking Raith were Too wee, too poor and too stupid.

Whatever you think about Scotland’s First Minister, Alex Salmond, he does appear to have an easy manner and is capable of thinking on his feet, if this msnbc interview is anything to go by.

Why now for a vote on Scottish independence?

link to msnbc.com

Paula Rose
Would you stop luving me Paula, if I suggested it might be an idea to give your links titles. Sorry. 🙂

@gerry parker, 2:49pm

like you Gerry, I live close enough to Strathy, only 10 mins away in the car. So as soon as there is an OK, we can start organising something.

Alec Salmond interviewed on Wall Stret Journal TVm during Tartan Week.

He had the whole show to himself, which is not normal. Normally it a sort of two points of view or a panel of people discussing a topic..

AS did very well

link to screen.yahoo.com

quite a good we video

And Robertson drives a car over a cliff…. anyone else watching newsnicht?

Haha, I just noticed “no one can say that this is a small thing”, lol, except Johann – Rev hope you’ve captured that interview for ridicule, ahem, I mean for posterity

Forwarded the organisers information to Stuart and suggested he would have enough volunteers to man a stall at the Strathclyde park event.

Having the blue book by then would be a bonus!