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    1. Cactus says:

      If you got a couple of hours to spare, chill back and enjoy this one. This guy’s gigging Edinburgh next month and I’m going ๐Ÿ™‚

      Ludovico Einaudi

    2. Cactus says:

      New page.

    3. Paula Rose says:

      No Cactus Dear – the Rev seems to have got fed up with our little game so now it’s random.

    4. jdman says:

      “Wait a minute, was there not supposed to be something else happening then. ”

      Yes I think your right, hmmm now what was it? oh yes my 60th birthday, celebrated in Tenerife. ๐Ÿ™‚

    5. Tinto Chiel says:

      @Almannysbunnet: well done re. your complaint. In the meantime you could do what I do by typing the revolver or the bomb after the Union Jack.

      Not only is it most satisfying but it gives the nice folk at GCHQ something to do.

    6. Almannysbunnet says:

      @ Tinto Chiel says

      Combinations! What a good idea. I like the union jack then the End sign with the arrow pointing left at the flag, or the Union Jack and the little piggy. Childish I know but could have fun with this. ๐Ÿ™‚

    7. Tinto Chiel says:

      The Union Jack and the piggy? Surely one of your rasher combinations.

      Bet Cams would find that very arousing…..

    8. Cactus says:

      Hey Paula babe, that’s a pity. Hmm maybe we should invent a new game then.. any thoughts?

      A very merry 60th birthday to you jdman when it arrives, exactly one month from today!

      I wonder what the rest of Scotland will be doing that day..

    9. cearc says:

      ‘I wonder what the rest of Scotland will be doing that day..’

      celebrating jdman’s 60th. of course!

      Have a good 60th. John, you’ll only have one!

    10. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      An opportunity for a Sunday afternoon Wings chinwag?

      Ignore the aberrant apostrophe…

    11. Thepnr says:

      See you there Brian ๐Ÿ™‚

    12. Stoker says:

      Ian Brotherhood wrote:
      “Have been trying to catch up โ€“ whatโ€™s the story with Stoker?”

      Nothing, Ian, i’ve just got that much on my plate at the moment with jobs, promoting the cause and on the domestic front. I’ll be disappearing off site for lengthy periods and was just making it known in advance, without giving too much away. Will still be popping in every now and again for a tune and a post, as well as reading and studying the articles, just not posting as much.

      If it’s the 2 or 3 music links i posted further up the tree which may have you scratching yer napper, don’t bother about them. They’re just “bait-bombs” and something i’m working on for a few well planned fishing expeditions. I knew the majority on here had the grey matter not to bite but i was disappointed my LURKING feelings were proved wrong. Need to try harder!

      I’ve found some new fishing grounds and i need to put my new reel, or should that be spiel, to the test. I hope to land a few biggies and show them off to the world for what they truly are – ugly, nasty and horrible creatures who frequent the dark depths.

      Take care you lot and keep that chair warm Paula.
      Status Quo – Roadhouse Blues – Glasgow 1976

    13. Thepnr says:


      If I don’t see you through the week I’ll see you through the windae.

    14. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Stoker –


      The plot thickens…

      Glad to hear you’re still ‘active’ – good luck with the mission.


    15. cearc says:

      …and it’s in Glasgow!

    16. Dave McEwan Hill says:

      Ah. Status Quo, a hugely under-rated band. Joe Brown worked a lot with the in their later recordings. What better way to enjoy a Friday evening than “The Wanderer”

    17. Paula Rose says:

      No Dad dancing Dears behave yourselves – I’m away for some folk/punk music in Brechin.

    18. Ian Brotherhood says:

      When the cat’s away…


    19. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Time to get properly cross-cultural an aw that…

      Have we ever had any Morris dancing?

      Get yer chops around this then:

      ‘Abingdon Traditional Morris Dancing Princess Royal’ –

    20. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Have it in my heid that this singer was Scottish…canny be bothered checking…some chanter in any event.

      Liquid Gold, ‘Dance Yourself Dizzy’ –

    21. Dave McEwan Hill says:

      Get blown away by this

    22. Thepnr says:

      I look a lot for “new” songs. I love the 70’s. In fact I love the 80’s and 90’s too.

      I can’t always find what I want as usually I want to say something. Maybe this sums up what I’m looking for but never find.

      Mad World.

    23. Thepnr says:

      That’s elected politicians for you, not the servicemen or women.

      To kill in the name of any regime is well just plain wrong, yet it is happening now. We call ourselves civilised too. Haha the caveman was more civalised. He ate what he killed.

    24. Thepnr says:

      @Michael McCabe

      I think you may have been hinting towards Bonnie and Clyde there Michael. Instead is this alright?

    25. Ian Brotherhood says:


      Have been wrestling with my lad over chess, and he sneaked it 3-2…

      Have just caught up with all the ‘Daddy Dancing’.


      Paula Rose will have a hairy canary when she gets back…


    26. Grouse Beater says:

      Oscars and Movie Cliches:

    27. Michael McCabe says:

      Ah Georgie Fame. Here he is Singing with Van Morrison. Still looking and sounding good all these years later. Is Everybody away home ? Is it just you and me Alex ?

    28. Michael McCabe says:

      Sorry here is the link to Van Morrison & Georgie Fame.

    29. Thepnr says:

      @Ian Brotherhood

      I know, when you lad beats you at chess your past it lol. Mine was 12 when he hammered me, he’s 30 now and I’ve got over it ๐Ÿ™‚

      @Michael McCabe

      Thanks for the ELO record, love ELO but here’s me thick as shit not knowing they had a song called Point Of No Return. Thanks Michael.

    30. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Boney M, ‘Daddy Cool’ (live, and includes suggestive gasping sounds) –

    31. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Thepnr –

      It was a freak result. It only happened because I got a bit pished and forgot what colour I was…twice.

      It’ll never happen again.

    32. Thepnr says:

      @Michael McCabe

      Simply class, good find Michael. Sending love to you and yours xx

    33. Thepnr says:

      @Ian Brotherhood

      Sorry Ian but your gonna have to face up to it one day, you lost right so get over it. Back in that box you sniveling cringer LOL

      Peace Ian, just my wee joke, here’s summit to cheer you up ๐Ÿ™‚

    34. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Thepnr –

      You’re probably right.

      But it’s too late now – I clipped his ears, packed a bag for him, then kicked him out!

      ‘Checkmate me via en passant eh? Ya bass!’

      Beck, ‘Loser’ –

    35. Thepnr says:

      Good for you man. Kids nowadays need their ears clipped, that’s a fact. Look forward to maybe playing a game with himself one day.

      Mind tell him he’s gubbed before he starts playing.

      Isn’t that how the Referendum was lost? Never mind, I Just watched that song you played and it reminded me of this because of dragging the coffin.

      Before I put the link again as I have done it before. Bloody hell there are 500 million views, I usually like to put up stuff with 15,000 views.

      I’ll make an exception because it’s good, difference between us and the Yoons is we can be open, wide open. Know what I mean?

      I like good crap, 15 million or 15 thousand is no matter, if it’s good then it’s good. Know what I mean?

    36. Thepnr says:

      No I didn’t do that on purpose. Try this for what I meant.

    37. Michael McCabe says:

      @ Thepnr Sending the love right back at you. to you and yours. Number 1 in the Prisoners Charts. Good song in my Humble Opinion.

    38. Thepnr says:

      @Michael McCabe

      Watched it, didn’t want to comment. But I have too, none of us are free. You got that right. Hope you can make it to Glasgow.

      Email me thepnr03 [at] gmail [dot] com

    39. Oneironaut says:

      @Ian Brotherhood
      Been a long time since I played chess, so I doubt I’d fare much better against him.

      I do still have a chess computer somewhere though, back from my younger days when I thought of learning to be a chess grandmaster… *facepalms*

      Yep, I wanted to try everything when I was younger, from astronautics to marine biology (conveniently forgetting I didn’t like heights and couldn’t swim!)
      Living in “North Britain” though, what chances did any of my dreams have of being fulfilled? *sigh*

      Anyways, onto today’s music link.

      It’s not quite paradise. But it sure feels like home…

    40. Thepnr says:

      You will all be saved. Just gimme your money!

    41. Thepnr says:

      I expect to be saved but have nothing to lose in the first place.

    42. Thepnr says:

      “I’m desperate Dan” nuff said.

    43. Croompenstein says:

      Where I was before the indyref…

    44. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Oneironaut –

      Hoots mister!

      Good to see you’re popping in more frequently. Long may it last.

      I find it hard to get a handle on what your musical tastes are all about, but I’m having a wild stab in the dark here, hoping you may remember and enjoy this:

      Evanescence, ‘Bring Me To Life’ –

    45. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Thepnr –

      ‘Desperate Dan’ !

      I loved BFTBS, but can’t even remember that scene. Fantastic.

      Have just replied to Tam Jardine over on main thread before last, suggesting that the next Glasgow WOS gig might be a wee bit different.

      How would people feel about having a longer day, start early afternoon-ish, but get a space where we can have an open mike and let people do their own thing, then have a band and/or jam session in the evening?

      The WOS meetings are great, but they flit by too quickly for too many folk.

      If we can find a place which would accommodate, say, 50-80 of us for a whole day, and provide a PA, would folk be up for that?

      Would enough of us bring instruments, be prepared to stand up and do a reading of their own work, or favourite stuff? Would we be able to get it Livestreamed?

      All these questions…

      But, in general terms, would anyone be up for that?

    46. Paula Rose says:

      I could play my organ.

    47. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Paula Rose –

      Yes, you could, but you’re already pencilled-in for fan-dances at 2.30, 5.30, and a ‘floor-show’ (whatever that is) at 11.15.

    48. Paula Rose says:

      *has gentle word with snake about a busy schedule*

    49. Thepnr says:


      Count me in, could be good. Jock Scot bring yer guiter. You too Cactus.

    50. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Michael McCabe –

      Man, that is some biblical stuff going on there…


    51. Thepnr says:

      @Michael McCabe

      Waiting on an email from you yet Michael, just have a suggestion, can’t do any harm. You know I don’t bite thepnr03 [at] gmail [dot] com

    52. Paula Rose says:

      He does nibble though.

    53. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Thepnr –

      Yep – Cactus and Jock Scot were uppermost in my bonce. And if IndyLive got onboard it could be a bit special.

      So, anyway, would you be up for a wee turn, and if so, what would it be?

      That goes for a’body else – it’s like the karaoke…everyone says naw, naw, I couldny…by the end of the night it’s hair and snotters everywhere, they’re all fighting for the microphone.

      Who would do what?

    54. Thepnr says:

      I also numb. num num num.

    55. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Have I linked to this before? A simultaneous pair from the early 70s…

    56. Paula Rose says:

      Ayesh dush a fansh dansh?

    57. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Paula Rose –

      Sorry, I didn’t get that.

      Could you please put your teeth in and try again?

    58. Thepnr says:

      Paula left her teeth on my bedside cabinet, I slept on the couch that night. Teeth are still there in the glass next to the Sterodent tin ๐Ÿ™‚

    59. Paula Rose says:

      Wash toothsh cosh ayesh schmasshed.

    60. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Paula Rose/Thepnr –


      Love ye’s.

      I’m off to my scratcher.

      Please consider what youse will do when presented with an open microphone in a few weeks. I’ll set about securing a suitable venue tomorrow…

      Hoots, hoots, and thrice do I declare, HOOTS to all Wingers, be they O/T, main-threaders, lurkers or what-not.

      May The Wings be with you!

    61. cearc says:

      An awfie lot of bodily bits get left at Thepnr’s. Jumping Jo has never gotten over it!


      I’d offer to do a can-can but unfortunately I can’t-can’t.

    62. Michael McCabe says:

      @Thepnr Hi Alex I am not used to sending E mails. But I have sent you one. Hope I have done it right ? Hope to hear from you soon.

    63. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @cearc –


      We’ll let you off, but just this once!

      So far as abandonment of body-parts goes, a wee birdie told me that Thepnr left his heart in Fat Sam’s Disco!

    64. X_Sticks says:


      You bring the drumkit…

      More important right now is a DATE. Those of us frae the fower winds need to start to plan if we’re doing Glasgow.

      I’d suggest the end of March as many folk might be a bit busy in April on the run up to the election. Any thoughts?

    65. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @X-sticks –

      Yes indeed, that’s what we need. We haven’t even agreed on the month!

      Come on abody, what do youse think?

    66. Quinie frae Angus says:

      Ian Brotherhood, I like your idea of an all-day sesh with mics for people’s “turns”.

      And X-Sticks, I think you’re right about the end of March. End of April or end of May sounds a bitty far away from here, and we can always arrange subsequent get-togethers for then, anyway.

    67. Ian Brotherhood says:

      End of March looks like it’s getting a thumbs-up – anyone else have any thoughts?

      Would like to get this nailed by end of today if poss, then find a venue before this time next week. CH won’t allow music…Clutha does its own thing, no way they’ll be able to accommodate us…

      There must be somewhere. Any WOS-friendly pub managers reading this?!

      I do have a couple of places in mind but we’d really need to give them a rough idea of numbers. Please, if you can, indicate interest. For argument’s sake, can we consider Sat, March 26th?


    68. Quinie frae Angus says:


      I have put out a few feelers for suitable Wings-friendly pubs.

      In the meantime, it does look as if March 26th would be a good date to do this, because I found this on Facebook:

    69. Quinie frae Angus says:

      It’s a “Free Scotland March” being organised by “All Under One Banner”.

      Don’t know much about them but it would make sense for a goodly showing at that. Remember, in order for BBC to report “1,000 marchers” we need at least 10,000 there.


    70. X_Sticks says:

      Good spot Quinie.

      Not sure you’ll get a definitive yes for the date by the end of today Ian. Cat herding is never an exact science.

      We’ll aim for the 26th unless anyone comes up with a good reason not to.

    71. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Quinie & X-sticks –


      Good stuff.

      It’s all falling into place…

    72. Thistle says:

      Yes! We will be livestreaming the march and lookig forward to WoS after ๐Ÿ™‚

    73. jimnarlene says:

      Ian Brotherhood says:
      28 February, 2016 at 3:13 pm
      If youโ€™re interested in the next WOS Glasgow shindig, itโ€™s looking like March 26th (Saturday).

      I’m definitely interested.

    74. Thepnr says:

      Hey Thistle

      Mind bring your wallet, your still owe me a beer ๐Ÿ™‚

    75. Odet Beauvoisin says:

      Ian Brotherhood says:
      28 February, 2016 at 3:13 pm
      If youโ€™re interested in the next WOS Glasgow shindig, itโ€™s looking like March 26th (Saturday).

      I’m interested too.

    76. Thepnr says:

      @Michael McCabe

      Don’t seem to have received your email Michael, did you replace the (at) with @ and (dot) with .

      Had to ask as you said that you don’t use email much. Worth another try.

    77. Macart says:

      March 26th sounds good to me guys.

    78. cearc says:

      Isn’t that easter weekend?

      Could make it tricky with people you want to stay with having visitors, family stuff, hotels more expensive etc.

    79. Thepnr says:


      Look on the bright side you get to roll your eggs ๐Ÿ™‚

    80. Thistle says:

      Nae problem Thepnr will be great to see you and the others ๐Ÿ™‚

    81. Michael McCabe says:

      @ Thepnr. This is my Email Address. mcccat88 [at] yahoo [dot] co [dot] uk Hope to hear from you soon.

    82. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Thepnr –

      Or you could roll your eyes…and if you get enough bevvy in yer boady ye could roll about on your rrrrrrrs….

    83. Ian Brotherhood says:

      …but whatever you do, don’t just turn up in your yyyyyyy….

    84. Thepnr says:

      @Michael McCabe

      Got it, dropped you a line.

    85. Thepnr says:

      @Ian Brotherhood

      cearc has lots of eggs, she gave me some from her own hens, delicious too. Hey we could paint them on Saturday night. Mibbe Chris Cairns would gie us a hand and then we could raffle them LOL.

    86. Paula Rose says:

      I’ll bring my crayons.

    87. cearc says:

      Hmm, bevvy and egg painting.

      I guess they’ll better have to be boiled eggs.

    88. Thepnr says:


      Funny you should say that, I just looked it up a bit earlier. Isn’t the Internet a wonderful thing?

      Anyway the way to preserve them is not to boil them, apparently the water content will evaporate and what you are left with might even be edible after many years, no smell or nothing.

      Going to bed now, just started blethering.

    89. Michael McCabe says:

      @Ian Brotherhood. hi Ian could you add myself and my friend Lynn to the List. Cheers.

    90. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @M McC –

      Done, with a big smile. ๐Ÿ™‚

      List now at 21. Not bad…

    91. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @cearc –

      Sorry, wasn’t ignoring you earlier. I hear what you’re saying, and it’s true – that weekend won’t be ideal for everyone but it does seem to be getting a pretty positive response generally.

      It’s tricky…always is.

      In any event, I do hope it doesn’t dissuade you. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    92. Paula Rose says:

      *peruses shoe catalogues – need a new pair*

    93. Ian Brotherhood says:

      This is worth watching, if only to hear the immortal line ‘I’m a heavy hunk of steaming junk’.

      Elvis, ‘Steamroller Blues’

    94. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Okay, now we’ve ‘given you the night’, can we please see some more names, eh? (I need to know how many sausage rolls and vegetarian bridies to try and pony out of whatever pub is doomed to host us…)

      George Benson (live) –

    95. Tam Jardine says:

      Ian Brotherhood

      Well done for pushing the next Wings night in Glasgow. I think I should be able to make it. As for musical instruments, I care too much about independence to jeopardise it in that way.

      By the way- I only nip into OT now and again but you have indy fm ready to go from what I can see. Cheaper than a TV station… that might be just what you are looking for Ian

      Good night friends

    96. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Here’s one to ponder –

      If you could do anything – and I mean anything – at an open-mike session, what would it be?

      This would be one of mine. What a voice.

      Billy Ocean, ‘Suddenly’ (live) –

    97. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Tam Jardine –

      That’s you on the list mister.

      You bringing anyone along?

      In any event, look forward to meeting you – hoots aplenty!

    98. Paula Rose says:

      Um – how big is the stage?

    99. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Paula Rose –

      How big is the snake?

    100. Paula Rose says:


    101. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Paula Rose –


    102. jdman says:

      Unfortunately I’ll be sitting on the beach in Tenerife on my last day of my holiday on the 26th of March Ian. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    103. jdman says:

      “I could play my organ.”

      like this you mean?

    104. Bob Mack says:


      Subscription to wings ยฃ10 per month,plus ยฃ20 donation to whoever is chosen for gold wings. Will notify when further donations made.

    105. YESGUY says:

      donated 10 pound = no perks . please put towards Pete and Nana. More donations to come .

      been watching from the side for a while now. Health not so good. But always a smile regardless of the news when i come to Wings.

      Once a Winger always a Winger


    106. cearc says:

      Bob Mack, YESGUY,

      noted with thanks.

    107. Oneironaut says:

      This message is for anyone is looking for inspiration for a musical act for the Glasgow night out…

      Amazing what you can do with a few bits of PVC pipe. ๐Ÿ™‚

    108. Caroline Corfield says:

      consider my ยฃ10 towards Peter the Camera’s gold badge thanks.

    109. Macart says:

      @John King

      Tenerife in March is it?

      Just cause your turning twentyone? You’ll be lookin’ for a cake next. ๐Ÿ˜€

    110. cearc says:

      Caroline, Thanks.

    111. Nana says:


      ยฃ10 added for Pete’s badge. Look for it under my alter ego Cailleach at approx 14.04pm

    112. ronnie anderson says:

      ยฃ25 donation to PeteTC Gold Badge & a further ยฃ25 promised for Nana,s Gold Badge.

      There are a lot of Worthy Wingers ,pity we could,nt give everyone a Badge.

    113. X_Sticks says:

      @Ronnie A

      “pity we could,nt give everyone a Badge.”

      Aye, indeed Ronnie, there are quite a few very worthy contenders any one of which would be very deserving.

      I don’t envy the job of trying to keep track of TWO gold badge accounts. One was bad enough!

    114. Odet Beauvoisin says:

      @ cearc
      ยฃ500 donation to Pete the Camera’s Gold Badge
      (sans perks, as requested)

    115. carjamtic says:

      ยฃ50,no perk selected,towards the gold badge(s),wingers are the best, ๐Ÿ™‚

    116. Skip_NC says:

      Greetings from Raleigh, North Carolina, where we’re gearing up for an election in a couple of weeks, in which my wife is taking the Republican ballot, so she can vote against a billionaire who is opposed to wind power (presumably because he doesn’t want the competition).

      Anyway, please mark my 30 pound contribution down for this year’s Gold Badge recipient. Being so far from home, I have no idea who Pete the Camera is, but I trust, Wings and Wingers, that he is a worthy recipient.

    117. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi cearc.

      I’ve just added ยฃ15 to the fundraiser. Please credit it towards Pete’s Gold Badge.


    118. cearc says:


      The voice of experience!

      Anyway, I’m not. First they are for Pete’s.

      When that’s done we can start on Nana (in the nicest possible way), and people can then post for that! If they have already nominated nana they will have to repost then.

    119. ronnie anderson says:

      @ cearc ยฃ25 donated for Nana,s Gold Badge . Ma back,s broked humpin aw they Rammies tae the shoppe,but for another wonderful Lady Winger she,s well worth it XX.

    120. ronnie anderson says:

      @ Skip_NC Thank you for your contrabution from afar, both our Gold Badge nominees are Worthy Wingers for differant reasons.

    121. ronnie anderson says:

      @ X Sticks Nae problemo tae oor cearc, she,s uased tae herding an coontin chickens lol.

    122. Thepnr says:

      @Odet Beauvoisin

      Fantastic contribution! very generous of you, nicely done cheers.


      Sorry to hear your not keeping so well, glad to see that your still keeping an eye on things ๐Ÿ™‚

    123. ronnie anderson says:

      @ Yesguy Sos to hear your feeling ill, take care of yourself, aw the bestest.

    124. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Just had an idea…

      Anyone from the Dundee/South Angus area fancy getting a minibus together for 26th March?

      I’m sure Bob Costello (Team YES Bus, Business For Scotland Battlebus) could do us a good deal.

      What think ye?

    125. cearc says:


      Wow! How generous.

      Well that’s Pete’s in the bag and we’re heading towards nana’s.

    126. call me dave says:


      ยฃ25 for Pete (no perks).

      Nana next time please.

      But I also got the braw badges for myself separately earlier on.

      Oh! am I allowed to say ‘separately’ here.

    127. call me dave says:

      cearc says:

      Wow! How generous.

      Yes it is. Thanks Odet. ๐Ÿ™‚

      In that case if there is enough to do it push my donation into the Nana pot. I’ve already mentioned her.

    128. Thepnr says:

      @call me dave

      Done exactly as you did, can’t resist badges LOL. If it’s not too late can my additional ยฃ25 count towards a badge for Nana please.

    129. X_Sticks says:


      ยฃ30 just donated for Nana’s badge.

      Huge thanks to Odet for such a selfless act of generosity. It has ensured that two of the most worthy of Wingers will both get a gold award ๐Ÿ˜€

    130. Thepnr says:


      I totally agree with you, Pete the Camera and his sidekick Brian are two of the hardest working Wingers I’ve had the pleasure to meet.

      Both were instrumental in delivering the Wee Blue Book in Dundee and surrounding areas. I remember just days before the referendum there was one box of WBB’s left in the NE of Fife.

      I was asked if we could use them but couldn’t make it, I phoned Pete and he went and got them straight away and got then into the hands of people desperate for knowledge and information.

      I’m pretty sure that Pete and Brian contributed a lot into Dundee getting a 58% Yes vote.

      Same for Nana, she’s a star with her research offering up everyday articles in many places that are relevant to the cause of Independence that no one else would ever find if not for her links.

      It’s people like Nana and Pete that are the reason for not getting back in the box. Despite their own difficulties with health and such like they are inspiring.

      There is no “back in the box” with them fighting your corner.

    131. Quentin Quale says:

      @Thepnr fine words, my friend.

      @Paula Rose great call nominating Pete. Big hugs.

      @PetetheCamera grand to bump into you the other week. Hope it was a profitable roup…
      Me and Chipmonkey hoping to hit the Glasgow meet-up.

    132. chipmonkey says:

      @ cearc Hiya. Popped back in to the funder and put ยฃ20 in no perks to add to Pete’s from me and QQ

    133. Thepnr says:

      Hey QQ and chipmonkey, good to hear from you ๐Ÿ™‚

      I played this song on the 19th Sept 2014, you commented QQ. Do you remember?

    134. Hoss Mackintosh says:


      Please put another ยฃ50 into the Nana Fund.

      My brother and myself met Nana in Freedom Square this year and she is a star – a great lady well deserving of a Gold badge.

      Congrats too to Pete the Camera another well deserving Gold badge holder. Quiet, hardworking and unassuming – a true Gent.

    135. cearc says:

      Hi. chipmonkey, long time no hear from you.

      So pledged perks so far..

      Pete the Camera…..COMPLETE.

      nana …. 282 of ยฃ513

      That’s all up to chipmonkey’s post.

    136. Quentin Quale says:

      @Thepnr – an absolute cracker! So is this from Andrew Mitchell (Hazey Janes)

    137. Paula Rose says:

      Gosh it’s crowded in here tonight *heaves crate of champagne onto table* help yourselves.

    138. Thepnr says:

      @Quentin Quale

      Pretty ugly fellow!

      Had never heard that song before and stuck it until the end. It was an enigma (and pretty boring I thought) until 3/4 way through that is then I started to get it.

      Forgive my ignorance, I knew though eventually he would rip the mask off but disappointed in not seeing Alex Salmonds face behind it. LOL

      Lat’s quietly keep on doing what we’re doing, seems to be causing some issues with the Yoon circuitry so can’t be all bad ๐Ÿ™‚

    139. Hood says:

      ยฃ50 just donated for the linktastic Nana.

    140. cearc says:


      Done! ยฃ332 so far.

    141. cearc says:

      Done, thanks.

    142. Thepnr says:


      Well done you my friend, will need to drop in and see you again sometime.

      Hood is the guy that made all the magnificent Wings logos out of stainless steel and just one of brass.

      Another unsung hero, who prefers a low profile, in my eyes at least. Cheers Hood, your every much a bit of a contributor than any of us. Thank You.

    143. Bob Mack says:


      See Chic Mcgregor last post on main thread.

    144. Paula Rose says:

      Champagne in the Hood!

    145. Macandroid says:

      Please chuck my ยฃ50 towards Nana’s gold badge. It will be from Andrew [dot] t [dot] pearson [at] gmail [dot] com. Ta.

      Keep fighting the good fight

    146. cearc says:

      So with Hood and Chic McGregor (on main thread) we have now COMPLETED nana’s gold as well.

    147. cearc says:

      Paula Rose,

      ‘Champagne in the Hood!’…. so, you’ll be able to keep your shoes on!

    148. Paula Rose says:

      Um – what do we do now? Get Pete the Camera to nominate the next one?

    149. cearc says:

      Shame we won’t get the ‘Frenzied Wings Mob’ badges in time for the Glasgae meet up.

    150. Thepnr says:


      Yahoo! Both very much deserve this wee bit recognition. Just for being who they are and doing what their doing. I’m sure they will be pleased at their Wings friends thanking them for their contribution towards Independence.

      Nana and Pete so proud of you two and you deserve more than a wee Wings badge. Not to worry, your efforts WILL be rewarded this May just as they were last May.

      Cheers and a wee smile to both of you ๐Ÿ™‚

    151. Arthur's Seat says:


      I know Pete and Nana’s Gold Badge totals have been reached however please count ยฃ34 from me to go towards a reward for the next nominee.

      Cheers everyone, well done.

    152. Paula Rose says:

      @ Thepnr 10:16 – big kisses Babe.

    153. Paula Rose says:

      For my lovely pals in this crowded place – please put a fiver or more here –

      Cos if you do you might see me.

    154. Thepnr says:

      Hmmm, seems like all the usual suspects have already gone to bed?

      Hmmm, just when I had a song for Pete and Nana. You know what? I’m gonna play it anyway.

      I’m so pleased you are recognised. We recognise Fools Gold.

      Your pure gold ๐Ÿ™‚

    155. jdman says:

      Where the hell have you been?
      we’ve been worried about you,
      sorry to hear about your health, if there’s anything I can do,
      just call my name and I be there, yes I will, you’ve got a friend! ๐Ÿ™‚

    156. jdman says:

      I’ll be expecting a rousing chorus of Happy birthday on the 24th
      don’t think for a minute because I’ll be away I won’t know
      I’ll be watching. no matter what Irene says,
      just don’t tell her I’m taking the Ipad for Gods sake. ๐Ÿ™

    157. Nana says:

      Goodness me, what a start to the day! I’m so happy for Pete the camera, a very deserving gent, and I can’t begin to tell you how thrilled I am that you folks thought of me. Thank you so much XXX

      There are so many wingers I would like to nominate for a gold badge but I would put Robert Peffers at the top of the list.

    158. Lollysmum says:

      Cearc -Just donated ยฃ50 towards Robert Peffers gold badge-an excellent suggestion for the next recipient from Nana.

      March 26th-Glasgow- sorry can’t join you wonderful folks this time. Blame it on SNP ๐Ÿ™‚ I shall be travelling up to God’s country for weekend of 12th-13th March for SNP Conference as delegate for London branch so if any of you good folks are going, I’ll be with Morag probably so say hello. Think I might also wear my Lollysmum badge from last year’s Glasgow meet just in case I come across any wingers ๐Ÿ™‚

      Anyhow, can’t afford two trips to Scotland in one month so sorry folks-next time in Glasgow maybe?

    159. Nana says:


      I have put ยฃ20 in the kitty for Robert under Cailleach at 10.26am.

      Thank you for being the counter xx

      @Thepnr xx for the tune.

      @Yesguy Sorry to hear you have been unwell.

    160. John H. says:

      ยฃ10 towards Robert Peffers gold badge. Well deserved.

    161. Chic McGregor says:

      Robert and I go back a long way on the internet, way back into s.c.s days in newsgroups about 20 years ago so I’ll scrape another ยฃ20 oot o’ the purse for his badge.

    162. Chic McGregor says:

      That’s ยฃ20 for Bob’s Badge fund at 12:52

    163. Chic McGregor says:

      Sorry, just noticed on mainstreet that you need say the name donated under.

      It was mcgregor.c1

      Also noticed you need to have not claimed a perk, makes sense, so if you can remove the perk, a bronze coin, from the first donation which I asked to go towards Nana’s as well please Cearc.

    164. Chic McGregor says:

      Thought I’d posted that Robert and I have ‘known’ each other on the internet for about 20 years, back to newsgroup days, hence the amount.

    165. John H. says:

      Sorry. Donated under the name John Higgins.

    166. Bob Mack says:

      Donated yesterday by subscription to wings ยฃ10 pm and ยฃ10 donation .It was under my alter ego( emgeeeff). Sorry for any confusion. (Will remember next time).

    167. Almannysbunnet says:

      Donated ยฃ100 under rickymearns. Didn’t claim any perks so have at it ๐Ÿ™‚

    168. Betty Boop says:

      @ cearc

      I see Pete and Nana’s badges are secure, so I’ve put in ยฃ25 towards the fabulous Robert Peffer’s badge. Listed under e in the contributors’ list.

    169. Betty Boop says:

      @ cearc

      Forgot to mention, that was with No Perks from Jim T and moi.:-)

    170. Petra says:

      @ Lollysmum says at 12:27 pm …. Petra …. Re your donation -if you didnโ€™t claim a perk for it then it can be added towards Robertโ€™s gold badge. You will need to put a note in Off Topic for cearc who is collating the donations for gold badges. She will need to know the amount & the name donated under if not Petra.”

      @ Nana says at 12:33 pm …. ”Petra …. Robertโ€™s fund is climbing, see off topic.”

      Thanks for the info Lollysmum and Nana.

      Cearc I donated ยฃ25 about four hours ago under ‘Anonymous’ and didn’t claim a perk. Could my donation go towards a gold badge for Robert?

    171. Betty Boop says:

      @ chipmonkey, @ Quentin Quayle

      Emailed chipmonkey this pm.

      @ Lollysmum. With a bit of luck, might manage to find you and Morag amidst the throng at the conference. It’a kinda dark in that hall!

    172. Lollysmum says:

      I said it to your face at CH last May but I’ll say it again-your Irene deserves a gold medal for putting up with you and of course being the ace raffle organiser at Wings meets. Fancy taking the iPad & her being kept in the dark about it-tut, tut ๐Ÿ™‚

      Have a good holiday & birthday (just in case I forget)

    173. Lollysmum says:

      @Betty Boop
      That’s good news-I’ll keep my eyes open for you then.

    174. Betty Boop says:

      @ Lollysmum

      I’ll stand on a chair ๐Ÿ™‚

    175. pete the camera says:

      Can I thank Paula Rose for suggesting and everyone else for putting my name forward for a gold badge it has me speechless, I do the badges purely to give me something useful to do in my spare time, not for reward in anyway along with BrianDTT we found a good way to raise money for good causes, thanks again for thinking about me have to stop now or it will be like a Oscar acceptance speel ———– and Jock Tamson an a.

    176. Thepnr says:

      Nothing to watch on the telly tonight? This might suit. Just arrived on Amazon Prime, their description. If you haven’t given up the telly tax yet and replaced with the likes of prime or Netflix then you can always watch on Youtube.

      Link at the end of this post.

      John Carpenter’s They Live 1989

      Professional WWF wrestler “Rowdy” Roddy Piper plays John Nada, a homeless, unemployed construction worker who discovers a pair of sunglasses that when worn suddenly reveal a world run by upwardly mobile, capitalist, yuppie aliens intent on keeping the human race sedate and brainwashed with subliminal messages fed through advertising and the media.

      John Carpenter must have saw this coming nearly 30 years ago. A visionary? He also wrote Escape from New York, he would have voted YES.

      You can also watch on youtube here:

    177. ronnie anderson says:

      @ Thepnr ( Hood is the guy that made all the magnificent Wings logos out of stainless steel and just one of brass.). Care to make the correction Mr Thepnr & Im the recipient of that treasured possession.

      Many thanks Hood Gold & Bronze in one year . Thanks Wingers tae.

    178. Thepnr says:

      Directed of course not wrote. Duh!

      Did write a couple of episodes of The Simpsons though.

    179. Thepnr says:

      @ronnie anderson

      Hi ronnie, stop yer moaning, I’ll well aware of who had the brass plaque. I know you have a brass neck as all I said was Hood made it LOL ๐Ÿ™‚

    180. Alistair Grapevine says:

      @ cearc

      i have donated 20.00 toward Roberts Badge,
      it is recorded as Alistair Walker around 21.15

    181. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi cearc.

      Have you accounted for my post at 6.01pm last night?

    182. Ruglonian says:

      Hi guys, long time no see (I’ve been hanging about twitter, when I’ve had the time to come online and play)

      I see another Glasgow do is in the works, well you can obviously count me in!
      I’ll put my thinking cap on regarding a venue, and I’ll rustle up some more Wings beer mats – the idea came up on the main thread earlier – and any other kind of branded, printed stuff I can think of (suggestions welcome, of course!)

      See you all soon x

      Oh, I’m sure most folk will have already seen this, but if not, then be sure to watch right til the end ๐Ÿ˜€
      (did the threat-to-sue bit remind anyone of anyone)

    183. jdman says:

      My Wings plaque adorns my summerhouse looking resplendent in the sunshine(when er we get it)thanks Ronnie, and Mr Hood for making it. ๐Ÿ™‚

    184. PotterThePiper says:

      Donated ยฃ10.

    185. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Ruglonian –



    186. @Ruglonian

      Wow. If Trump survives that he could survive anything.

      That guy used to be on Mock the Week didn’t he?

      Worry that his Quality Inn quip may get him in trouble.

    187. sydthesnake says:

      Hi Rev
      can you add any perk accrued by my donation to Roberts Gold badge,

      donation pledge no 15410729 (around lunchtime day 1)



    188. sydthesnake says:

      sorry Cearc
      donated under my other name Stevie Strang for Roberts Gold Badge


    189. cearc says:

      Wow, I went to bed thinking this was all done anddusted. Went out for the day and straight to bed, peeped in during the early hours to find all hell has broken out. I went back to sleep!

      So it seems that people are going for a third.

      Only donations for which NO Perks have been claimed can be counted. So Chic’s first will have to be removed.

      You do NOT have to publish the name thatyou use for Indiegogo. (I saw that comment that someone put on the main thread but as I thought we had reached target didn’t respond).

      You DO have to say how much the donation was.

      I’ll tot it all up later and say where we are.

    190. bob sinclair says:

      Wings Night in Glasgow. Hell yeah, count me in.

    191. Lollysmum says:


      Oops-that was me ๐Ÿ™ Mea culpa & all that ๐Ÿ™‚

      Was just my CEO indoctrination kicking in at the most inopportune moment & thinking you must need a way of verifying contributions. I promise I won’t do any more thinking OK?

      You can calm down now!!

    192. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Bob Sinclair –

      Cheers mister.

      List now at 25


      PS Can anyone commit to bringing instruments and/or doing a turn?

    193. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Obviously, we do hope that some of the many talents we possess will be on show – so far we have Paula Rose with her snake, but we can’t reasonably expect her to stretch that out for five hours.

    194. Paula Rose says:

      FYI It’s a boy snake and he tires rather quickly – me, I can go on all night!

    195. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Right, come on –

      Thepnr, BDTT and Michael McCabe – join me! We can do this!

    196. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Right, who’s up for having a stab at this?

      Quine frae Angus? CamB? Oneironaut? RonnieA?

    197. Quentin Quale says:

      Ian, could you add me and Chipmonkey to the Glasgow night out please?

    198. Thepnr says:

      @Ian Brotherhood

      I’ll manage the Happy Hour alright, don’t know about the Houdini having spent my whole life avoiding a strait jacket ๐Ÿ™‚

    199. yesindyref2 says:

      A little acorn for Robert Peffers gold badge, ยฃ5 I found lurking on my card – Pledge ID: 15445158.

      Bad time of year for any more I’m afraid, every penny goes into getting ready for the season!

    200. cearc says:

      Ok folks. We now have ยฃ234 of perks towards Robert’s gold

      That is everything shown here (including Petra) except Sydthesnake’s who didn’t say how much. I might look for it later but you’re here Syd please tell me.

      Thanks everyone.

      Lollysmum, I didn’t mean to sound stroppy. I basically do it on trust because I don’t want people to have to publish another identity which they may not want to show here.

    201. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @QQ –

      It has been done.


    202. kendomacaroobar says:


      Due to the generosity of T Jenny and X Sticks i have a gold wings badge & bonus package to sell to support one of our wingers who is going through a bad patch and is now in a hostel in Fraserburgh area with 2 ailing dogs.

      e mail ken [at] iscot [dot] scot or speak to my *dad* Ronnie Anderson to validate my credentials/

      yours aye


    203. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Just found this video of John McTernan, on the hunt for a new job – perhaps he would come along and do a wee guest turn for the night? (No payment naturally, but the exposure would be invaluable…)

    204. yesindyref2 says:

      Something for any Unionist lurking, savage the FRC is coming in ยฃ1 billion under budget.

    205. jdman says:

      I didn’t want to have a meltdown in public, so I’ll have it here,
      1 million copies of a new Wee Blue Book?

      Seriously, where’s the distribution network how will we do it, stand in the friggin streets and hand them out to passersby?
      somebody pass me a brown paper bag QUICK!

    206. jdman says:

      “e mail ken [at] iscot [dot] scot or speak to my *dad* Ronnie Anderson to validate my credentials/”

      I KNEW IT!

    207. Fiona says:

      @ Cearc. Donated first day ยฃ25, no perks. If this can go towards badge for Robert, please do that. If already secure then to another prominent winger. Don’t care who, you are all deserving.


    208. cearc says:


      That’s fine, thanks.

    209. Andrew Mclean says:

      I will add ยฃ10 to the fund,

      Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.

      I will do without my wine this weekend, now that’s fatigue! ๐Ÿ˜‰

    210. John Sm. says:

      Just donated ยฃ35, no perks, to go towards a wee gold badge to whoever you guys feel deserving.

      ๐Ÿ™‚ Cheers.

    211. John H. says:

      Donated ยฃ10 for whoever is next in line for a badge.

      John Higgins.

    212. Thepnr says:

      Hi Ken

      Wish I could do more immediately but being self employed right now has meant not much happening. I suspect we could always offer the treasures up for auction at the coming WOS night in Glasgow and I’d like to believe though priceless they will get what they are worth.

      As you know we usually have a wee raffle, I would suggest the proceeds went to your cause, I’m sure that would find sympathy and maybe approval.

      Sorry Ken that I can’t do more to help personally at this time.

    213. ronnie anderson says:

      @ Kendomacaroonbar You dont need me or anybody else tae validate You , there,s only wan noted Winger cawed Kendomacaroonbar.

    214. Kendomacaroonbar says:

      @Ronnie thanks Da!

    215. kendomacaroonbar says:

      @Thepnr thank you my friend

    216. ronnie anderson says:

      @ Ian Brotherhood Aye there wiz a time in the not to distant past where I wud hi suited a Stait jaikit resplendent in a rubber room , but you lot pulled me back from the brink,um aww rite noohoohoohoo.

    217. Thepnr says:

      This is for one of my bestest pals over on the main thread and also for all his little helpers.

      Many hugs if your watching ๐Ÿ™‚ xx

    218. Paula Rose says:

      I do hope that is appreciated Thepnr.

    219. Thepnr says:

      @Paula Rose

      Well you can but hope, somehow though I doubt it can be appreciated by someone without emotion or empathy.

      Embrace them for they know no better! Pity them for they deserve our pity!

    220. cearc says:

      Thepnr, Hahaha.

      Ok folks the Robert Gold is now standing at ยฃ319.

    221. Thepnr says:

      @Michael McCabe

      Nice one ๐Ÿ™‚ Beat this ya begger. Got you stumped LOL

    222. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Thepnr –


      That was soo-perb. I’ve never seen that movie. Seriously.

      On Simon and Garfunkel, I saw Art Garfunkel on the telly in Japan, must’ve been 91/92, he was on a solo tour, being interviewed, and came across as a bit of a prick, but then he had to do ‘Bridge Over Troubled Water’ live and obviously hadn’t bothered consulting with the lone pianist on what key they were going to use – he ended up with squashed balls and torn vocal cords by the end of it, tears streaming down his face. Dick.

    223. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Thepnr –

      Knowing something of your predilections, I’ve a suspicion you may enjoy this:

      Joss Stone & Rod Stewart, ‘Hot Legs’ –

    224. Michael McCabe says:

      @Thepnr I found this while I was Roman about but I don’t like to Shout about it. Spot Belushi Dancing.

    225. Thepnr says:

      @Ian Brotherhood

      Art Garfunkel should have given up when he split with Paul Simon.

      Paul Simon had one brilliant album after the split up, you’ll remember Graceland. After the split up his life fell apart, one crap record after another and then he wen’t to South Africa which was the inspiration for Graceland.

      That was the mid eighties, he should have given up after that as well as it was his tour de force.

      He never, and only got worse. Especially singing, last time I saw him was on the telly ptobably around 2000, it was awful. Might try and find that clip, meanwhile he he is at his peak in my humble opinion.

      I chose this because it might remind you of a sadly departed Dundee singer and songwriter. A particular favourite of Paula Rose.

    226. Michael McCabe says:

      @ Ian Brotherhood Joss Stone has a great Voice. Here she is Singing with Al Green.

    227. Ian Brotherhood says:

      This is just phenomenal – my son recommended it.

      If you think it’s not your cuppa, please persist, at least until Eminem’s done his bit. Astonishing.

      Tech N9 ne – Speedom (WWC2) feat. Eminem & Krizz Kaliko –

    228. Thepnr says:

      @Ian Brotherhood

      Loved the legs, you have predilections nailed but…

      @Michael McCabe

      I raised you a tenner, you want all in with that. I fold, happy to see you collect the pot ๐Ÿ™‚

      Times running out, well the beer is so last one from me ๐Ÿ™‚

    229. Michael McCabe says:

      @ Thepnr here is two minutes 29 seconds of T-rex on the theme of rocks.

    230. Thepnr says:

      I’m going far tooooo sloooow.

      Never mind, Ian I think Eminem is great though obviously he’s not of my era, he’s a newer dude but pretty good ๐Ÿ™‚

      That last song there reminded of Peter Piper picked a peck ah fuck that lol.

      You all know the one I really like by Eminem, I like it because it has a message for supporters of Independence, I’m Not Afraid.

      Your NOT getting that song AGAIN I’ve decided to play another but of course no one needs to watch. Independence supporters I’ve found tend to be well Independent of thought too.

      That’s a good thing, love you all ๐Ÿ™‚

    231. Thepnr says:

      @Michael McCabe

      Yep, that’s aboot the size of it!

    232. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Thepnr –

      Thanks for posting ‘Lose Yourself’, haven’t seen it for years.

      Reminds me of when my own lad was just a tot, he loved it, still does, and he’s living all the messages he picked up from it. Great video, great song.

      Hoots brother – can’t wait to see you and abody else on the 26th – we get a chance to write another wee footnote for this great story we’ve found ourselves caught up in.


    233. Paula Rose says:

      wash-up boys please – hate to leave the place untidy.

    234. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Paula Rose –

      I can’t help, sorry, one of me Marigolds has a split…


    235. Thepnr says:

      …the one Ian gave me is also split, two splitters it seems. Your turn again Paula for the dishes.

    236. Paula Rose says:

      The next wings get together will feature Ian Brotherhood getting his erse skelped.

    237. Paula Rose says:

      I despair I really do.

    238. Paula Rose says:

      Go to bed both of you.

    239. Stoker says:


      Mundell Assumes The Position For His Masters

      SNP x 2

    240. Andrew Mclean says:

      Stoker, you mean this?

      “Assume the position Mundell” says Cameron!

    241. Oneironaut says:

      Another suggestion for a party act…
      (Even if just for the outfits!) ๐Ÿ™‚

    242. alexicon says:


      ยฃ50 from me for Robert Peffer’s perk.

      5 minutes ago Buchananalexan… on the backers board.

      Enjoy Robert.

    243. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Thepnr –

      I don’t remember giving you one. When was that?

    244. YESGUY says:

      Thks for the regards Alex, Ronnie , John and all.

      Tough time over winter and had hoped new meds would get me out and about but no joy at present. But i will get there eventually thanks to our wonderful Doctors and Nurses.

      I read all the comments every day like the good Winger i am and take heart that you guys will keep up the fight for us who canny .

      Your the one place that always leaves me with a smile on my face and hope soon to get out and meet more of you all again. The best part, is of putting faces to names and giving me the chance to thank you all for everything you do here.

      Summer weather will help loads and hope to get out then and catch up a bit.

      For the time being though , its keep warm, take it easy blah blah , you know the drill but remember i am here watching and laughing along with you .. most of the time.

      P.S. Your generosity knows no bounds . But I already knew that. Nice to see Pete and Nana get a wee thank you and i am so happy to contribute.

      You all deserve a gold badge in my mind.

      Take good care of yourselves and i’ll pop in every now and again.. to let you know i am here.

      Big thank you to ALL at Wings

    245. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Quinie frae Angus & Ruglonian,

      If youse see this, can you please let me know asap if you’ve had any joy re Glasgow gig venues. If need be I’ll go to Glasgow on Monday unless anyone closer fancies the task…


    246. Robert Kerr says:


      ยฃ20 from me for Robert Pefferโ€™s perk

    247. Paula Rose says:

      I’ve spent all afternoon hoovering and dusting and washing up – now BDTT can you put some decent tunes on the dansette cos the silly boys have been putting some real rubbish on recently.

    248. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Paula Rose.

      YesGuy, up above, mentioned looking forward to meeting Wingers when summer comes along. So a couple of tunes…

      Unfortunately, that TOTP performance omits the wonderful intro. So you can relive the intro here:-

      And one more…

    249. Glesca Keelie says:


      Just put ยฃ20 in for Robert.

      Also, on looking at other posts, I put in ยฃ50 a couple of days ago, with my usual No perks. That dirty great heavy wan I have is enough, and after being asked if I was ex-para’s with the Wings badge on, I don’t use that either.

    250. galamcennalath says:

      My donation of a couple of days ago. No perk.

      So Robert Peffers should benefit.

    251. X_Sticks says:

      Summertime, eh?

      This one always did it for me. (sorry couldn’t find a youtube of it)

    252. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Paula Rose –

      How dare you!

      Beat this!

      Max Bygraves, ‘Fings Ain’t Wot They Used To Be’ –

    253. Ian Brotherhood says:

      The Two Ronnies, ‘Rhyming Slang Sermon’ –

    254. Paula Rose says:

      The Barracudas – lovely boys, such big fans of Moi!

    255. Jock Scot says:

      Thanks Lollysmum

    256. cearc says:

      Robert for Gold now standing at – ยฃ459 of ยฃ513. Nearly there.

      Thanks everyone.

      gallamcennalath, how much was it for?

    257. Thepnr says:

      Hey Jock Scot how you doing ya bam LOL Another great wee tune by the way.

      Any chance of you making it to Glasgow? Looks like the 26th.

    258. Cadogan Enright says:

      @ ian brotherhood

      My email address is cadogan [at] enright [dot] ie

      Give me the low down on the 26th please

    259. Macart says:

      26th a firm date then? Howzabout the venue?

    260. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Mentions of ‘Summertime’…

      This is, possibly, the first use of a well known riff:-

      And here’s another for Paula Rose…

    261. Paula Rose says:

      BDTT honey – you make life worth living, you really do.

    262. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Macart –

      Venue? TBC.

      Fret not – we’ll have it sorted for early next week, and it’ll definitely be Glasgow city centre.

    263. Paula Rose says:

      We is the wings w is.

    264. old dearie says:


      I’d like my ยฃ50 donated a few days ago to go to Robert Peffers gold badge. Great
      historical posts.


    265. Macart says:

      Cheers Ian.

    266. Paula Rose says:

      I is going to bed cos my pussy needs a stroke – she’s very demanding.

    267. Cactus says:

      Here’s a suggestion for a different venue pretty close to Central Station.

      The Crystal Palace at 36 Jamaica Street (a large bar/food with an upstairs) Here’s some links for interest/info:

      I’ll probably go to or from wherever, to The Clutha at some point.. which be one of the most hat-friendly bars in Glasgow.

      ps digging the latest music video Jock Scot dude, cheers!
      C, F & G ๐Ÿ™‚

    268. Stoker says:

      Andrew Mclean (11.27am)
      I think that’s the watchable version Andrew.

      Lollysmum wrote: “From Yew Choob-Bampots

      A big thanks to the the Yew Choob team, brilliant!
      And to Lollysmum for posting it.

      Ian Brotherhood and all interested. Another suggestion for the wee shindig you’re putting together, both just around the corner from Glasgow Central station – Time Square or Hootenanny’s.
      Both good gastro-type-bars with plenty of space BUT i have no idea of their politics or how receptive they’d be to our lot. Might be worth you checking them out.

      SNP x 2

    269. Stoker says:


      Also should have added The Grant Arms, it’s on Argyle Street just along from the low-level exit/entrance to Central Station. It’s in a similar vein to the other 2 i mentioned, size wise etc, but once again i have no idea how receptive they would be to a WOS shindig.

      I’m a big supporter and believer in supporting our own, ie; The Clutha, but the Clutha is a wee bit out of the way for a lot of folk, especially when they’ve had a sherbet or two and i feel it’s a bit cramped size wise.

      Oanyhoo, it’s the people who make a party, not the venue.

      SNP x 2

    270. Ian Brotherhood says:

      A wee bit of serious business…

      We’ve had a suggestion from Cadogan that the Glasgow get-together could provide an opportunity to do a workshop-type session about ‘Inform Scotland’, all about billboard/poster campaigns – it sounds pretty major and worthy of serious attention/publicity.

      Nothing has been confirmed yet, but we need to know who’d be interested in hearing more/contributing to the development of this, and also alert those veteran Wingers who were involved in producing the ‘Aye Right’ leaflet. Please get the word out and let’s try to generate a bit of a buzz about this – previous WOS gigs have always been successful social occasions, but this one may also produce something solid and workable.

      @Cactus – do you know if that pub you mentioned is bookable/available on the 26th?

      @Quinie and/or Ruglonian – any news on other poss venues?

      Time ticking down…

      *whip being cracked*


    271. Quinie frae Angus says:

      Hi Ian B

      So sorry – I have had no luck so far with venues. Tried two small Partick pubs but they both have functions on on the 26th.

      Have been unexpectedly in London all week for work and so haven’t had any time to traipse around the Glasgow pubs, and now am in Dundee for a family weekend and funeral….

      Certainly up for the “Inform” idea. My work schedule will be erratic for next few weeks, and involve a lot of travel, so don’t know how much practical help I’ll be able to commit to – but I’ll do what I’m able to!

    272. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Quinie frae Angus –

      No worries, thanks for letting me know.

      Whatever happens, I do hope you can make it. It’s nice to be busy, aye, but we all need a wee break and recharge of the batteries, and the WOS nights always seem to be effective on both fronts.

    273. Cactus says:

      I’m in the big yes city tonight so will try to pop by the Crystal Palace to make enquiries Ian B. I reckon wherever we choose, we should reserve it for 50+ Wingers yeah.

      Another venue in the west end that was suggested before, was the ร’ran Mรณr at the top of Byres Road (beside the bonnie Botanic Gardens.)

    274. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Cactus –

      Good stuff big yin, cheers aplenty.

      If a decent space is available and you get on the crack with any managers etc, could you please ask about availability of a basic PA, and also whether we can book the place from approx. 2.30 p.m. until closing time?

      Hoots mon!

    275. Paula Rose says:

      And make sure they do decent cocktails.

    276. Quinie frae Angus says:

      TJenny, if you are reading this and you still have my email address, can you get in touch with me?

      My old computer died some time ago so unfortunately I no longer have your email address!

    277. Cactus says:

      @Ian B ~

      Like the 2.30 p.m. start for the โ€˜Inform Scotlandโ€™ idea from Cadogan n yerself. Will ask about the other stuff too and report back over the weekend or by Monday latest.

      Meantime, if anyone’s got a preference for venue or other.. shout out!

      @Paula ~

      Aye, will get the heads-up for you on the cocktail front missy x

    278. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Cactus –

      ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ˜‰

      We salute you…

      Here’s one, should be right up your street.

      Shakin’ Pyramids, ‘Take A Trip’ –

    279. Cactus says:

      Also in the west end on Woodlands Road we have The Dram (formerly the Uisge Beatha.)

    280. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Just to point out – we did promise it would be central, i.e. within walking distance of the central bus and train hubs, and some have signed-up on that basis.

      The old Uisge Beatha is a fine venue, but a fair hike from, say, Glasgow Central. Good shout though, and we should keep it in mind.

    281. Paula Rose says:

      Could have an afternoon venue and an evening one.

    282. Stoker says:

      Well, i’ve already given you 3 suggestions and you’ll not get much closer to Central Station than those 3. Mind you, there are 3 establishments within Central Station (upper level) but their prices might be a tad OTT. Good luck with the search!

    283. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Stoker –

      Sorry Stoker, forgot to respond to you earlier, got sidetracked.

      Looking for venue for first Glasgow WOS night (well, if you don’t count the Horseshoe one) I spent a whole Saturday plodding around the environs of Central, checked every pub and found nothing suitable because they’re jammed on Saturdays and it’s impossible to ‘book’, say, a whole lounge. That’s why we ended-up in the Counting House, but they won’t allow PA/music. The Clutha’s a fine venue too, but they’ve always got their own music and they’re jammed at weekends, we’d be lucky to get space enough even to stand near each other.

      Plus the fact, we need a ‘private’ space so we can set up a PA, have the workshop sessions/discussion, and do our own thing music-wise in the evening.

      Best I found was the upstairs of the Quarter-Gill, but it’s very small, not an awful lot of seating. I might have another look at it, depending on how Cactus gets on tonight.


      PS Cadogan – The Quarter-Gill would be perfect for what you have in mind.

    284. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Stoker –

      Sorry Stoker, wasn’t rubbering you, just got sidetracked.

      Wrote you a quite lengthy reply approx 10/15 mins ago but it’s not showing(yet)…

      I tried all the pubs close to Central while searching for somewhere for the first WOS gig, but they’re all jammed on Saturdays, impossible to book, say, a whole lounge.

      Let’s see how Cactus gets on tonight.


    285. Ian Brotherhood says:

      This is to send good vibes to the bold Cactus…

      We’ll get a place for the 26th yet…

      U2, ‘I Still Haven’t Found What I’m Looking For’ (Harlem Gospel Choir version, live –

    286. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Stoker –

      You seem to know your city-centre pubs!

      Familiar with The Quarter-Gill, just off junction of Argyle St and the one that becomes Hope St?

      I’m thinking that the upstairs lounge there could be a go-oer, but I keep remembering it as very very small. Not sure now that it is, memory could be playing tricks – could be ideal if there are only 30-35 of us, but I’ve a feeling we’ll surpass 50 in which case it would definitely be standing-room only for a lot.

      Anyone else know the place I’m on about?

    287. Paula Rose says:

      Thought I’d made it clear that U2 is verbรถten here.

    288. Stoker says:

      No probs Ian, didn’t think you were. I’ll not be going to this one anyway for a variety of reasons but was just trying to help yous out with my knowledge of the area.

      Hopefully Cactus will get something sorted but failing that just keep in mind how long ago that first gig took place, things have changed now and there’s a lot of establishments needing the business.

      I’m sure you’ll all sort something.

    289. Stoker says:


      Just posted my previous post before seeing your reply at 8.01pm.

      That’s more than a bit on the spooky side. I know the Quarter Gill very well and i know the fella who runs it and i’ve been contemplating that suggestion all day but can’t for the life of me remember what the upstairs is like. I’ve only ever been upstairs once and that was a right few years ago and i was a little pickled.

      That’s not the first i’ve been thinking something quite heavily on my mind only to find out when i come on to WOS that someone is asking about the very same thing. The last time was several weeks ago when i hadn’t seen ‘YESGUY’ posting for a while, came on to WOS later that day only to find John King asking the same questions.

      Sh!t, time for my meds, i’m hearing the Twilight Zone!

    290. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Stoker –

      ๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿ™‚

      Okay, well, that, to me, is some kind of kismet-related thing which indicates a very big thumbs-up!

    291. David says:

      If looking for a Glasgow venue, you could try the Laurieston Bar, see if they will let you use their lounge.
      It is just south of the river Clyde, ten minutes walk from Central station.

      It is also only 200 metres from Bridge St. subway, giving good quick link to Buchanan St. for those using the train at Queen Street.

      The Laurieston, 58 Bridge Street, Glasgow, G5 9HU
      Tel. (0141) 429 4528

      Pub review:

      Don’t know if they have a PA system, but they do have a jukebox!

      Disclaimer: No, I don’t have shares in it, I just used to enjoy drinking & eating pies there. A great traditional pub with excellent, & original, old-time decor. Nine years ago, how time flies. ๐Ÿ™

    292. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Anyone else having comments not appear?

      That’s two I’ve ‘lost’ today, and no indication that I’d made a mistake with name/mail details.

      Comments don’t seem to be delayed though – is the site under some kind of attack? Seems Bateman’s blog has been getting a hard time today…

    293. Stoker says:

      David (8.34pm).
      Something is ringing a bell about The Lauriston but i just can’t place it. A couple of years ago the boss and i were on a wee tour of the outlying establishments and we happened across what i think was The Lauriston but i don’t recognise it from the link you provide. The place i’m talking about was quite good, in fact the welcome was warm and she even got me up onto the floor for a bit of daddy dancing to the DJ/Karaoke(?), that’s how good it was.
      On second thoughts, unless you can get someone to do a recce and fact-finding mission, i’d give the QG a miss. It’s a perfect location but if the downstairs is anything to go by, shabby with poor toilets – a bit spit-and-sawdust and not a place i’d be comfortable sending Wingers to.

      On the other hand though, i’ve just remembered a cracking wee place, you can get 20 people in it and you’re literally rubbing shoulders. BUT, they have a cracking downstairs which they don’t always use, i’ve been in that place when it’s been packed with c100 and a Karaoke. It’s called The Alpine Lodge and it’s 2-mins away from the Central Station opening across from The Toby Jug.
      It’s right across from Reardons Snooker & Pool club on Hope St.

    294. Stoker says:

      SORRY – Alpen Lodge (not Alpine Lodge).

      btw, folks, completely different topic here but be warned, if you ever get the chance to watch a film trilogy called The Human Centipede give it a wide birth. It’s five-and-a-half hours of your life you will not get back.

      Right, i’m away to watch Noah on Netflix, take care you lot.

    295. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @David –

      Cheers. Noted. Could be worth considering.

      @Stoker – The Alpen Lodge is a no-go on Saturdays, packed solid all-day with karaoke and what-not.

    296. Thepnr says:

      Just thought I’d have a look online to see what might be possible.

      One that came to my attention was Dows Bar just outside Queen Street station, according to their website they have a private function suite for up to 120 separate from the main bar.

      I’ve been in the main bar and it was fine, in fact if waiting on a train with time to spare would go there, no idea what their function room is like.

      The cost is FREE, might be worth finding out more?

    297. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Thepnr –

      Nice one.

    298. Thepnr says:

      In fact last time I was in Dows Bar was the Hope of Fear Rally in George Square with my young lad, both of us had Wings/Yes badges on and nobody seemed to care one way or the other.

    299. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Ian B.

      That sounds ideal – could be worth checking out. Although, at three weeks, the time frame could be a tad short.

    300. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Just discovered tonight that my old music teacher passed away in June 2014.

      He didn’t get to see the referendum result, and that’s maybe a blessing because he was a big SNP man (I think he stood for election, way back, maybe late 80’s) a very popular teacher and a lovely bloke by all accounts.

      I’ve definitely posted links to him in here before, but there wasn’t a lot online even a couple of years ago. Someone has uploaded a stack of his work, and it looks like it’s pretty recent. He’d been ill for a long time, but it’s still sad to find that he’s gone.

      Peter Mallan, ‘Ye Banks & Braes’ –

    301. Macart says:

      Feelin’ a bit like this tonight.

      Mixed with a bit of this.

      A couple of medicinal wossinames and a few memories of a long summer.

    302. Oneironaut says:

      Did a certain someone say my last music link was rubbish? ๐Ÿ™
      There’s just no pleasing some people!

      Ok then, mellowing it up a bit…

    303. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @BDTT & Thepnr –

      Aye, it does look good.

      I’ll phone tomorrow, see if the date’s free.

      And we’ll also hear from Cactus soon – no harm in spinning a few plates…we have to get this right.

    304. Thepnr says:

      It’s always sad Ian at the passing of family or friend. Your old teacher looked contented in that clip, I guess he was a kindly man. He looked that way to me.

    305. cearc says:


      Glad to hear you’re busy. Enjoy yourself.

    306. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Oneironaut –

      Hoots mon.

      Beautiful stuff.

      Hope you’re well there.


    307. Macart says:

      Bonny tunes by Mr Mallan Ian. I think Thepnr’s words summed it up well.

    308. Croompenstein says:

      ride me to the junkyard in my cadillac..

    309. Paula Rose says:

      I’ll put my order in now…

    310. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Macart –


      The glory days are yet to come brother!

    311. Thepnr says:


      You do the Rockabillies are voting for Trump LOL

      I’ve a very good friend lives in Lousiana, went to his daughters wedding not so long ago. Wore the full regalia, couldn’t keep the old wives off me ๐Ÿ™‚

      I don’t discuss politics with my friend. I want him to remain my friend.

    312. Ian Brotherhood says:

      We won’t see much of this man on ‘British’ MSM as the U.S. election nears, or hear any of our ‘experts’ quoting him during the 24/7 coverage, but he’s important to a lot of American voters.

      Louis Farrakhan, in a recent interview, talking about Trump:

    313. yesindyref2 says:

      Mellow and high as a kite

    314. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Just called Dows – they’ve already got a function booked for the 26th, but the room is free on the 25th.

    315. Oneironaut says:

      Speaking of Trump, it seems that many Americans are already preparing to abandon ship…

    316. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Have booked Waxy O’Connors – it has one bar free on the 26th, so we’ve got our name on it. From 3-closing time.

      Am going up tomorrow to check out the space etc.

      It is done. The uncertainty was intolerable, so I hope youse don’t mind…

    317. Thepnr says:

      @Ian Brotherhood

      Well done you. Looks good to me, had a look at their website, I’m guessing that the room is McTurks Bar?

    318. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Thepnr –

      That’s the one.

    319. Stoker says:

      Michael McCabe wrote “Number 1 in the Prisoners Charts.”

      OH, i don’t know about that, here’s a good contender:

      Ain’t No Honky Tonks In Jail

    320. TD says:

      Apologies if this has already been mentioned, but does anyone know what has happened to Derek Bateman’s site? The link from WoS takes me to a 403 Forbidden page.

    321. Cactus says:

      @Ian B ~ Hi, was a no go at the CP. so good timing and excellent choice of the WoC.. that can well hold the 50+, cheers to ye!

    322. JLT says:

      Hello folks!

      Long time since I’ve been here (keep forgetting about the Off Topic Page). Started wondering what you guys have all been up to (apart from music choices).

      I’m guessing you boys (and gals) are organising a wee soiree. You say the 25th / 26th …I’m assuming you are talking this month (as in March) and that it will be in Glasgow?

    323. Paula Rose says:

      Yes JLT honey – the 26th and we’re going to do serious stuff in the afternoon! then we’ll be our usual silly selves.

    324. Macart says:

      @Ian B.

      Mrs M and I will do our best, but we may not get to venue before either late in the afternoon or early evening.

    325. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Cactus –

      Thanks for trying the place anyway mister, it was worth a shout.

      I hope no-one’s pissed-off at me just going ahead with that booking – tbh, I was getting a bit freaked with the apparent dearth of suitable places and I jumped at the chance of getting in Waxy’s – astonished that they had any free room what with it being Easter weekend.

      Let’s make this a good one – it won’t be as rushed as previous meetings, and means that some folk who can’t do the evening can get together in the afternoon, and vice-versa.

      Right, now we’ve got a place – who’s organising the music?


    326. JLT says:

      @Paula Rose

      LOL …And just like that …Mr Brotherhood fires up the info on today’s main topic!

      Timing as they say …is everything!

    327. Paula Rose says:

      It’s all planned you know cos we is cybernats.

    328. JLT says:

      Hi Ian (Brotherhood)

      I should be there. I don’t believe I have anything else on.

      (Jeez …those cheesy muffins that I ate not so long ago must have sparked up the ‘Force’ in me! Don’t know why I had the thought of ‘I wonder when the next Wings do is? …bizarre!)

    329. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @JLT –


      That’s your good self added – you bring the total to 30.

      BTW, upper-limit won’t be a prob with this place, so the more the merrier…let’s get the word out. We can submit a wee notice to The National as well, they don’t charge.

    330. Paula Rose says:

      I’ve been on so many lists now – usually to starboard.

    331. Thepnr says:


      Great that you and your wife will make it, I’m hoping my missus will too, right now 60/40 chance but I’ll keep working on her ๐Ÿ™‚

      I think as regards when people come along is unimportant, thought for a while it might just have been myself and Ian Brotherhood sitting a corner with a flat beer being filmed by Indy Live LOL.

      All welcome at what ever time suits you best.

    332. Lenny Hartley says:

      Will try and get up for glasgow get togetherr

    333. Macart says:


      I’m never allowed oot the hoose on me own. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

    334. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Thepnr –

      Yeah, a live broadcast of you and me sitting there. It’d be like an endless version of Derek & Clive, but with no jokes.

    335. Thepnr says:

      haha You were basically just asking me to play this eh.

    336. Quentin Quale says:

      Have we ever had a ukulele player covering a Hendrix classic?
      Some playing!

    337. Thepnr says:

      @Quentin Quale

      Right your booked!

      Just bring your ukulele along to Waxy’s ๐Ÿ™‚

    338. Taranaich says:

      I’m sorry I haven’t come by in ages, but I thought I’d share this post about the greatest influence on my political life:

    339. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Taranaich –

      What a brilliant Mothers Day present that is.



    340. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Lenny Hartley –


      Noted, with great pleasure.

    341. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Now that we have a venue…

      Once again, Pete the Camera and Brian Doonthetoon will be producing personalised souvenir badges for Wings over Glasgow on the 26th March.

      If you are intending to be there on 26th March and want a personalised badge, please post a comment in “Quarantine”, with your username for the badge.

      Like ‘Wings over Aberdeen’, the badges will be subtly different to those produced in the past.

      ‘Quarantine’ can be found here:-

    342. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Oh, and on the subject of badges…

      Make sure you are wearing all your ‘Wings over…’ badges when you turn up at Waxy’s so peeps can see where you’ve been!

    343. Thepnr says:


      Thanks, loved that wee tribute to your Ma, I met her and you briefly in the Yes bar, wish I had spoken to her by more than just hello.

      She’s a Ma to be proud of right enough. You should try and get along on the 26th. Plenty of friends and should be good.

    344. Cherry says:

      Hi Ian,
      I’m one of the five of team Inform-Scotland. Cadogan has emailed to keep us up to date. I’m unable to come as I have a problem with my balance (vertigo) which leaves me unable to move around in outside spaces or places where there are lots of people. It’s the biggest pain of my life as I can’t be part of the “crowd”. So can I ask would there be any way that a laptop link could be setup? I know it’s a huge ask but if you don’t ask you’ll never get anywhere lol!

    345. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Cherry –

      I can’t promise that the whole event will be Livestreamed, but I’m pretty sure that ‘Thistle’ (of this parish!) will be around – we’ll try to make sure that the Inform Scotland session is covered.

      ‘Thistle’ is a busy chap, but I’m sure he’ll let us know as and when he sees that we’ve confirmed a venue – provided he can get a decent signal from Waxy’s (which is, if you haven’t been in it, a bit of a labyrinth) then I hope we can make it happen.

      If we do, you’ll be first to know if you keep watching this space!

      Hoots tae you – please tell all your pals to attend if they can, if only for the workshop. Once they’ve met a few of the diehards I’m sure they’ll be tempted to linger awhile!

      ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ˜‰

    346. Cherry says:

      Thanks Ian and “hoots” right back at you ๐Ÿ˜‰

      Would love to go on a Wings extravaganza (piss up)
      maybe I’ll get there one day!
      Keep the fight in their faces!

    347. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Cherry –


      Please be assured – ‘Friends of Wings’ is just a name for the purposes of booking a room. That’s it.

      The friendships and connections (some are very business-like BTW) established in the past two or three years, largely because of this site, will persist regardless of what happens, and continue for many years to come, even if the names change.

      So, when your own tribulations have passed, (as they will!) you will surely have many opportunities to witness these gatherings first-hand – they are going to be happening on a regular basis ‘forever’.


    348. Oneironaut says:

      Keeping with a relatively chilled-out musical choice.

    349. Thepnr says:

      Here’s something you might not have seen in a while ๐Ÿ™‚

      Bay City Rollers – Money Honey

    350. Thepnr says:


      Lovely voice and the pictures were pretty. How come no words? ๐Ÿ™‚

      I listened to the next of their songs just to hear if she could sing and she can! Nice one O.

    351. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Oneironaut –

      Good stuff, but when we look upon the starry sky here in Stevenston, what do we see?

      As usual, nowt!

      I keep popping out to see if the Northern Lights are there…more in hope than expectation, has to be said.

      I did see them once, about ten years ago, from the back garden…nothing like the pictures you see on telly, it was very faint, but definitely there, so we know it CAN happen. It’s just such a bummer to know that it does happen, but we’re all normally sound asleep at the time.


    352. Oneironaut says:

      @Ian Brotherhood

      Yeah, I kind of stumbled across that one when looking over stuff by Origa.
      She does sing in it, although she usually sings in Russian (since that’s where she’s from), so might not be easily understandable. She does have an amazing voice though.

      Looking up Origa on Youtube will dig up plenty of her work. She was more well known in Japan where she sang on anime movie soundtracks.
      She died in January of last year though. Sad ๐Ÿ™

      The video comes from a film that was shown at planetariums (hence the weird spherical projection) called “A Starry Tale”.

      Inspiring in that it draws on the myths and stories that the ancients once assigned to meanings in constellations of stars, imagining them as the shapes of gods and goddesses watching over humanity and guiding them to seek truth, justice and a brighter future (supposedly, not that that worked out too well judging by today’s world!)

      And it takes from those myths of the past how we can make our own connections to the stars to inspire us to build a brighter future (which given the state of things nowadays is something that needs to be done pretty damn sharpish!)

      Flat screen version of the video is here if anyone is curious:

      As for me, I mostly think stars look nice when they’re actually visible here ๐Ÿ™‚

    353. Stoker says:

      Waxy O’Connors? Although not quite ‘Central’ it’s a good choice.
      Dow’s was another good suggestion. I didn’t mention them because i was specifically focused around Glasgow Central, as requested.

      However, now that yous have settled on Waxy’s i’ve started promoting it so i hope this decision isn’t for changing. Here is a suggestion for yous to contemplate.

      Given that there is supposed to be a big rally taking place in Glasgow on that same day, why don’t you get some flyers promoting the event at Waxy’s printed up and get a couple of volunteers to hand them out at the march/rally?

      It shouldn’t cost that much to knock up a couple of hundred or so. Whatever yous decide i’m sure the day will be a big success. As i’ve said, it’s the people who make a party not the venue.

      Orrabest one and all!

      Scooter – How Much Is The Fish?

    354. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Stoker –

      Just called WOCs to confirm, and that’s it definite, no need for me to traipse up to Glasgow to look at the space and abody seems happy enough.

      They’ve sent me details of buffet packages etc which I’ll post links to later, but the lass said we can just order solo at the bar if need be. It’ll be a long day for some so grub is something we should have a think about.

    355. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Ian.

      I’d suggest letting Wingers organise their own food. Keeps costs down…
      (The chipper next door does a splendid steak pie supper!)

    356. Michael McCabe says:

      Something from the Songwriters Circle.

    357. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @BDTT –

      I hear ye brother, and concur, but it was just to let folk know that the options are there if they want them.

      Why is it so quiet, both here and the main threads? Feels as if something’s happened…

    358. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Have an idea about what to do with the ‘open mike’ session at the Glasgow gig, and want to run it over ye’s all, but it’s important to know roughly when the maximum number of regular commenters are going to be around.

      If we can pinpoint a ‘window’ when as many as possible will be present, but before it gets too noisy/musical/incoherent, we could do a session where WOS commenters go up in turn, introduce themselves by their WOS handle (if they have one), give their real names (if they want to) and explain why they contribute to the site, what brought them there, that type of thing.

      We could plug this in advance as a ‘An Audience With The Vile Cybernats’ or something along those lines…

      Any thoughts?

      More importantly, who’s up for doing such a thing, bearing in mind that it may be Livestreamed?

    359. Ian Brotherhood says:

      The Who, ‘Who Are You?’

    360. Hoss Mackintosh says:

      How is the collection for RPs gold wings going?

      Is it close?
      As I may chuck in a few quid to get it over the line.

    361. Oneironaut says:

      It’s early morning. It’s raining. And I have to go outside.
      Need something amusing to cheer me up…

      *bump-starts the jukebox Fonzie-style!*

    362. Ruglonian says:

      Hiya Oneironaut, good to see you’re back and I hope you can make it into Glasgow on the 26th.
      That video was quality – I love old footage repurposed like that, and who can argue with a bit of The Simpsons ๐Ÿ˜€

      Ian Brotherhood – hi, was your thoughts on the open-mic thing to tie into Stokers comment about flyers? My first thoughts were that we wouldn’t want any ‘spanner in the works’ showing up but this may be an unnecessary consideration if it was only marchers being invited on the day.
      If, on the other hand the idea was to promote, in advance, a kind of ‘evening with the cybernats’ we may encounter saboteurs ๐Ÿ™
      Anyway, the reason I was asking is not cos I want to do a turn or anything – I definitely don’t! – but because I can arrange printing at minimal cost, no hassle.

    363. Stoker says:

      @ Ruglonian
      My fault, should have been clearer in my suggestion, hand them out to those participating in the march. Good printing offer, well done!

      BBC Scotland Fails 21st Century Journalism Test

      Haddaway – What Is Love

    364. Paula Rose says:

      @Ian Brotherhood aye Dear like shy me is really going to do that!

    365. cearc says:


      Well, actually, it is just a FEW quid off. Standing a ยฃ509 of ยฃ513!

      I was waiting as a couple of people had pledged without saying how much but I haven’t heard from them again.

    366. Hoss Mackintosh says:


      That is great – I will chuck in the difference – 4 quid.
      A bargain!

      More money for Rev Stu,
      Gold wings medal for Mr Peffers,
      And most likely will piss off Rock too.

      An all around win!

    367. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Hoss.

      I like your style!


    368. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Peeps, remember,

      Pete the Camera and Brian Doonthetoon will be producing personalised souvenir badges for Wings over Glasgow on the 26th March.

      If you are intending to be there on 26th March and want a personalised badge, please post a comment in โ€œQuarantineโ€, with your username for the badge.

      Like โ€˜Wings over Aberdeenโ€™, the badges will be subtly different to those produced in the past.

      โ€˜Quarantineโ€™ can be found here:-

    369. Quentin Quale says:

      I guess I’ll not be the only one hoping the Navajo Nation sue JK for her cultural appropriation in her latest pile of rubbish? Now she is really showing her ignorance. So, here’s some Navajo music,
      and it rocks

    370. A rock’n’roll classic recorded by the underrated Shakin Stevens. Who gave him the silly name

    371. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      I have an LP by “Shakin’ Stevens and The Sunsets”.

      Precedes his hit run by a few years.

    372. Wee Jonny says:

      Hi Wingers.

      Does anybody ken the best place to buy the really wee Yes badges? Not the 3cm ones, the smaller lapel badges with blue background and white writing?

      I bought a few 3cm Yes badges yesterday from Zazzle after giving all but one of my Yes badges away and the one I have left is lookin a wee bit tatty.

      Any help would be ace ta.

    373. Oneironaut says:

      Thanks. I’m not really “back” as such. I just come on here to join the occasional music link posting.
      Won’t be at the Glasgow event either. Haven’t really been in the party mood for some time.

      Also can’t find the song I was going to post now and I have to leave in a hurry.
      I’ll maybe post another one tonight.

      Peace, Love and Oreos!

    374. Wee Jonny

      The Wee Badgers in Glasgow do a nice line in badges of any design and many sizes. Online

    375. Wee Jonny says:

      Ta Dave.

    376. CameronB Brodie says:

      Re. GERS and it’s value as indication of Scotland’s economic position. Are Unionists really able to overlook the ยฃbn fraud committed against Scotland, when the McCrone report was buried by Whitehall, for example? Now that’s cult devotion.

      Jack Jolly – Amnesia

    377. Davie Mc says:


      Bruce Crawford’s crowdfunding campaign ends this Sunday 13th March. Please donate what you can afford to make sure this parliamentary giant of the independence movement gets re-elected. All proceeds will go straight to his campaign fund. Please share!

      Davie Mc

    378. Chic McGregor says:

      The wife recently introduced me to sudoku a couple of weeks back. So have been trying the National’s on and off and this morning I was dead chuffed since the evil one only took 90mins. So far either I have not completed it or it has taken hours.


      Do these things eventually get down to an acceptable time usage i.e. 20mins or thereabouts?

    379. kendomacaroonbar says:

      @Chic iScot Magazine has their very own SODUKO and the name has absolutely nothing to do with SOD UK … You should give that yin a bash 5 minutes to 40 minutes seems to be the iScot will also be having a little stall at the Conference this weekend Stall no 24 – all welcome

    380. Stoker says:

      From the Rev’s twitter feed:

      Why Do You Hate Us, Scotland?

      OH, how blissfully ignorant, but he gets it on the very last line.
      Can i get your coats for yous? BYE BYE!

      “..the neighbours who just want to get along..” says Adam Benjamin.
      lol x 100 The demented ignorance of a UKOKer, eh!

      Vengaboys – Shalala Lala

    381. Chic McGregor says:

      Right Ken, I’ll give that a go.

    382. jdman says:

      For those about to go to Tenerife we salute you,
      no allowed to post while on holiday, Irene says,…….AYE RIGHT!

    383. Stoker says:

      Read Dr.John Robertson’s coverage of the run-up to the Scottish Parliamentary Elections 2016 and of his complaint to the toothless croc (aka IPSO).

      The IPSO response has been added to the comments thread.

    384. cearc says:


      Hope you both have a great holiday and you enjoy your birthday.

    385. Betty Boop says:


      Hope you and Irene have a great holiday and happy birthday when it comes.

    386. CameronB Brodie says:

      Here’s some popcorn R&B for all the Yoons out there, especially BBC Labour in Scotland and the QT team.

      Z. Z. Hill – One Way Love Affair

    387. Stoker says:

      ((( BREAKING )))

      Exposed – David Mundell And His Plush London Pad

      Sincerest apologies to rodents everywhere!

    388. Stoker says:

      Dr.John Robertson’s continued analysis of the Scottish election campaign TV news coverage (No9).

    389. Kishorn Commando says:

      RIP Keith Emerson
      My first taste of prog

    390. Stoker says:

      For those of you who haven’t read it yet.

      Wee Ginger Dug – The lost city of Yes Dundee

    391. Thepnr says:

      Oops, long way from home and my wife sent me this, I’d forgotten it was our aniversary.

      Some of you will get it. My mistake was not reading it until now.

      Funny how somethings can lift your spirits yet make you want to weep. Now I need to be forgiven.

    392. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Kishorn Commando.

      Gutted to read your post re Keith Emerson.

      I saw The Nice at the Caird Hall in 1968 (69?), then the three ELP concerts at the same venue. At the first of them, he played the intro to “Pictures At An Exhibition” on the Caird Hall organ, which is world famous among organ aficionados.

      Onnyhoo, although The Nice played “Rondo” as their encore at the Caird Hall, this is my all-time favourite “Nice” single.

    393. cearc says:


      I’m sure you’ll be forgiven. Good excuse to bring an extra treat when you come back.

      I was feeling awful today and fell asleep after lunch only waking up half an hour an ago and so missed phoning my grandson on his fifth birthday! Which is probably a worse family crime.

    394. Kishorn Commando says:

      Thanks Enjoyed America, haven’t heard it for 40years. I always preferred the Nice to ELP, moved on to YES (Still there EH!

      Here’s one of Mr Bogle’s best to lift the spirits from the yoonshite of the past few days.

    395. Macart says:

      @John King

      Don’t know if you’re reading this on hols John, but have a great time and a very happy birthday.

      Awrabest. ๐Ÿ™‚

    396. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Kishorn Commando.

      I discovered “Yes” via ‘The Yes Album’, which a former school pal had purchased from a vinyl emporium. Saw them at the Caird hall an’ a’…

      BTW: If you’re on Facebook, check out my Facebook page pic…

    397. Kishorn Commando says:

      Small world, don’t do much facebook, still have some YES vinyls but have all their albums on cassette.
      However I have saved my pristine King Crimson’s “Court” despite binning the turntable 20 years ago. We did keep a portable Dansette that scratches records like a tomcat for the kids.
      Hoping to make it on 26th.

    398. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Kishorn Commando –

      Have added you to the list.


      Can anyone else hereabouts help try and plug the 26th gig a wee bit?

      I’m properly full-on with uni deadlines for the next week. Cadogan and his ‘Inform Scotland’ colleagues have been busy organising for the ‘afternoon’, but we’re still not getting as many names as we’d like for the evening.

      I will be popping in here to keep a tally, and respond to any ‘new’ names, but otherwise I’m ‘oot-the-gemm’ for the next ten days or so.

      So this is an appeal to all and sundry – even if you can’t make it on the day, please spread the word and encourage folk to come here, O/T, to say if they’re coming, daytime/evening, whatever.

      Waxy O’Connor’s, Glasgow, Saturday March 26th, from 3.00-ish to closing time.

      We really need to make it a busy one – after what happened in Dundee last night, it’s crucial that we send out a powerful message to all the Nawbags.

      Hoots all! ๐Ÿ™‚

    399. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Kishorn Commando.

      The debut ‘King Crimson’ – definitely in my top 5 albums of all time, in the world, ever.–Sh7YE

    400. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Greg Lake and Karen Carpenter had the same quality of voice.

      It was a big regret to me, when Karen Carpenter died, that we would never hear a Carpenter/Lake duet.

    401. Cadogan Enright says:


      Hi everyone,

      It’s taken a long time but Inform Scotland so far has a bank account and a PayPal account and the start of a website. We had quite a few members pay up for the first year. We now need to refine the processes for how we will translate the aims into action.

      Inform Scotland is therefore putting on a workshop to move things forward and you are invited.

      This will take place on 26th March 2016, at Waxy O’Connor’s Bar in Glasgow (right next to Queen Street rail station – map attached), starting at 3.30pm. and finishing around 5pm. The venue is McTurk’s, inside Waxys – follow the signs to Glasgow Friends of Wings Over Scotland or similar.

      The workshop is part of a Wings Over Scotland social event, so it will be followed by an opportunity to socialise.

      The agenda may evolve with further input from interested parties, but an outline of the event is below:

      An introduction to Inform Scotland and broadly what it wants to achieve.

      A briefing on initial suggestions for how the ‘business model’ might work and the democratic and transparent principles that underpin it.

      Some discussion on any gaps and weaknesses in the model.

      The “workshop” part of the session will consist of smaller groups working through a different aspect of the business process from finding good ideas for publication, to costing them, to filtering down to a short list of what should be crowd funded and deciding what sort of medium each of the ideas might be presented within. Also how to make sure we don’t publish anything silly that might backfire on us.

      The rough framework is that any idea should pass though a series of gates so that administration is easy, governance is transparent and everyone feels happy with how we reach each short-list of ideas for funding two, three or four times a year depending on how well the model we agree works in reality.

      The session will close with feed back from the tables and planning of next steps.

      Please do come along and see if you can help with common-sense ideas and help us get this over the line.

      Inform Scotland is also interested in hearing from people with relevant skills who might like to be involved in helping to manage this project.

      *Apologies to people who may not be able to get to Glasgow for this event, but we have to start somewhere! There is a possibility that this event will broadcast live on the Independence Live website.

      Team Inform-Scotland

    402. Bevrijdingsdag says:

      @Ian Brotherhood

      Me and the Missus are due a day out. Looking forward to meeting
      people we feel we already know.

      Thomas & Mary

    403. Taranaich says:

      I’m at conference, all: if you see a dark-bearded, ponytailed man in a leather jaikit & a man bag, say hello

    404. CameronB Brodie says:

      Here’s one for the OBR and all the Yoons who place their faith in it’s credibility.

      Aretha Franklin – It Ain’t Necessarily So

    405. Croompenstein says:

      Scotland in the union.. tied down with battleship chains 50 foot long and a 2 ton anchor….

    406. CameronB Brodie says:

      I light of the dearth of credible corporate media reports re. Syria, here’s an interesting article for all the Assad haters.

      Most Syrians request that I tell exactly what I have seen and to transmit the message that it is for Syrians to decide their future, that they support their president and army and that the only way to stop the bloodshed is for Western and Gulf nations to stop sending terrorists to Syria, for Turkey to stop warring on Syria, for the West to stop their nonsense talk about โ€œfreedomโ€ and โ€œdemocracyโ€ and leave Syrians to decide their own future.

      Surely the corporate media and state propaganda peddlers, can’t be lying to us about the Syrian crisis? After all, they were spot-on re. Saddam and WMD.

    407. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Bevrijdingsdag –

      Cool. ‘Thomas and Mary’ duly added to list…now at 32.

      How ’bout you Taranaich – any chance you’d make it?

    408. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Ian B.

      Of that 32, only 13 have, so far, asked for a badge so I’ll repeat what I posted a week ago…

      Pete the Camera and Brian Doonthetoon will be producing personalised souvenir badges for Wings over Glasgow on the 26th March.

      If you are intending to be there on 26th March and want a personalised badge, please post a comment in โ€œQuarantineโ€, with your username for the badge.

      Like โ€˜Wings over Aberdeenโ€™, the badges will be subtly different to those produced in the past.

      โ€˜Quarantineโ€™ can be found here:-

      The badge list will close on Wednesday evening, 23rd March, at 11.59pm.

    409. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @BDTT –

      Big hoots to you and PTC for doing all the badge stuff – must be a finicky and time-consuming business altogether and youse don’t get anywhere near enough recognition for doing it.

      Please be assured that your efforts are appreciated, and the objects themselves are treasured more than any of the gongs ‘sold’ by ‘Erself in Buckie House.

      Anyway, you like your obscure records, eh?

      How ’bout this?

      Try listening to it without looking at the title, see if you can pinpoint who and when…nae Buster Keaton!!!


      More power to ye, and regards to the bold Pete.


    410. Ian Brotherhood says:

      This would make a good finale for the SNP conference – they’re even wearing the appropriate colours.

      Jermaine Stewart, ‘We Don’t Have To Take Our Clothes Off’ –

    411. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Ian b.

      Re: mystery track. Sorry, the guff wiz gied awa’ as soon as the video started! I’d never have got it though.

      This is, probably, my favourite SM track, from 1979.

    412. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @BDTT –


      Good one, have never seen that before. That’s the beauty of YT, eh?

      The SM guys were just up the road from where I lived, went to the same school, maybe three, four years above us, and they were spoken-of as if minor Gods, even before the Johnny/Self Abusers name was ditched.

      If memory serves, they used to play the Doune Castle in Shawlands, and you couldn’t get in for love nor money – a lot of gang-related trouble at that time too in and about Shawlands probably did no harm to their general profile in Glasgow, even if they had nothing to do with it all.

    413. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Just to keep Wingers up to speed…

      This is a post I’ve stuck on one or three Facebook pages tonight.

      On Thursday’s BBC ‘Question Time’, David Dimbledum changed his status from “chair” to “participant”, by jumping into the debate and stating a blatant lie, that is that when we voted in Indyref 1, we knew that there was going to be an in/out referendum on EU membership.

      This was not corrected by any any of the other panelists on the show. History was also rewritten by yoon audience members and panelists by repeating the lie that a PROMISE was made by the YES side that indyref 1 was a “once in a lifetime” event.

      No such promise was ever made. A personal opinion had been offered, not a promise.

      Onnyhoo, here’s Ruthie Tank Commander, during the STV Referendum Debate on 2nd August, 2014, stating the lie that with a YES vote, Scotland would be out of the EU – only a NO vote would keep us in. No mention of a GUARANTEED in/out referendum down the line.

      Remember, at this time, Labour were around 4% ahead in the polls for the UK general election; it looked like the tories weren’t going to win, as Ruthie TC admits in the video below. Apologies for the poor quality.

    414. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      2nd SEPTEMBER, not August. Sheet!

    415. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @BDTT –

      If that was Bernard Ponsonby chairing that exchange then he’d better join a long line of meeja-folk who will, sooner or later, be required to state their position on what ‘Sir David’ and his QT crew did in Dundee.

      So far? Their silence has been deafening – let’s see what Stuart Cosgrove and Eamonn O’Neill have to say about it next Thursday. If they choose to ignore it then I, for one, will lend no support whatever to the championing of Cosgrove as an advocate of radical MSM change.

    416. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Ian B.

      Re ‘trouble in Glasgow’.

      In the early 70s, we were involved with organising fundraising dances for our BB. One of the bands we had seen at “The JM” was a band from Glasgow called “Downtown Flyers”. Their vocalist looked uncannily like Rod Stewart, at the time.

      In blethers, he related a story to us. It was told that, one evening, he was wandering in a homeward direction, when he was accosted by some of Glasgow’s finest.

      He told us that his philosophy was to suss out the ringleader and threaten him along the lines of, “Your mates may get me but, before they do, you’ll be dead.”

      He then turned and walked away. He said that his mistake was to turn his back on the ringleader, resulting in a knife in the back.

      His advice was, “Walk away backwards…”

    417. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @BDTT –

      You’ll remember that one of the Simple Minds albums was called ‘Streetfighting Years’.

      The crack at the time, far as I recall, was that the ‘Minds’ hailed from a wee bit of Toryglen locally known as ‘The Circus’. I don’t know which members this referred to, but I presume it was Kerr & Burchill.

      That ‘bit’ of Toryglen was, by all accounts, a bit wild, but if the gangs wanted a fight they’d use the local ‘rec’ – at that time it was a vast spread of ash football pitches. It now hosts a massive 24/7 Asda.

      I crossed that ‘rec’, night and day, many dozens, possibly hundreds of times. Walked through the Gorbals after midnight load of times, after closing-time, skint (because we’d spent the bus-fare on pints)sometimes with mates, sometimes alone. Not once did we ever get any real hassle, perhaps because we had functioning ears and legs. The guys in Glasgow at that time who were involved in any gang-related stuff were there by choice, and, so far as I’m aware, they did their level best to have square-goes well away from anyone who might clipe to their maws.

      By the 80’s I reckon a lot of the Southside guys were simply milking urban legends which largely arose in the East End. Big difference is that, in places like Dennistoun and Royston, the real stuff – properly nasty, bigoted sectarian stuff – was still happening. (Depending on who you believe, it still is.)

      Dunno, maybe I was just lucky? ๐Ÿ™‚

    418. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Ian B.

      Seems like you did lead a charmed life – why else would Frankie Vaughan get involved?


    419. Patrician says:

      Someone pointed me to this tonight, hadn’t heard it in years. Not very sophisticated but still made me laugh.

    420. Bevrijdingsdag says:

      @ Ian B

      Thanks for putting us on the list.

      T & M

    421. ronnie anderson says:

      @ Ian Brotherhood. Kevin Gibney wants to do a Livestream interview on the 26th with you & me lol (I dont do interviews), pick a partner Ian.

    422. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Ronnie A –


      I understand you not doing interviews seeing as you’re such a shy and retiring sort…


      Any chance you could send me K’s e-mail? I don’t have a current one and I don’t ‘do’ Facebook.

      Hope you’re well mister. Hoots the noo!

      ianbhood [at] gmail [dot] com

    423. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @BDTT –

      Hoots for K’s address – have just dropped him a line.

      Right then, that’s the business done, hoozfurra wee dance?

    424. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Blondie, ‘X Offender’ –

    425. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Typing about Blondie…

    426. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      How’s this for a novel dining experience?

    427. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @BDTT –


      Had no idea what to expect there.


    428. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Dear All,

      Plans for the 26th in Glasgow are shaping up nicely…

      Cadogan Enright and his ‘Inform Scotland’ colleagues have already claimed the afternoon shift, as detailed above. (12th March, 12.55 am)

      We trust that Cactus, Jock Scot and sundry others will exercise their musical talents in the evening…

      IndyLive will be there…

      There will be a ‘window’, after the ‘Inform Scotland’ session, and before we all proceed to get blootered, where we could/should take the opportunity to get on-record why we support this site. It doesn’t matter how many people are watching it ‘live’ – the important thing to keep in mind is that the event will be recorded, so it’s there for good.

      If you were put on the spot, what would you say about WOS and why you’re a contributor/lurker/financial supporter?

      How would you present yourself to an audience which has a preconceived idea of you as a ‘Cybernat’?

      If this was your one and only chance to leave some testimony about what’s happening in Scotland right now, what would you say?

      Responses to these basic questions may take many forms, but one thing’s for sure – the time will flit away, so we have to try and make some effort to organise it.

      Please have a think about it, and post your thoughts here.

      Hoots all, as aye.


    429. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Paula Rose (Wherever you are…) –

      I know you’ll be very busy (whoops – almost wrote ‘busty’ there!) on the 26th, but you could always ask your charming Uncle Norbert to say a few words on your behalf?

      Just a thought…


    430. Paula Rose says:

      Hi Ian *waves from Venice * oh I don’t know perhaps I could do a little interview if everyone wants me to.

    431. cearc says:

      Uncle Norbert, eh? Well that would be erm, ‘interesting’!

      Keep dangling your tootsies in the canals, sweetie. Ian wants this meet up to be a bit different.

      Although, Uncle Norbert may be stretching the definition of a ‘bit’ different.

    432. Betty Boop says:

      Good to meet a fair number of Wingers at the weekend. Pleased to see you all again. You know who you are ๐Ÿ™‚

      Special thanks to Chipmonkey and QQ; pleasure as always.

    433. Tinto Chiel says:

      Rediscovered this recently and thought some of the discerning sophisticates here might enjoy it. Dig the saturated colour and meandering routine for the camera.

      They were an ugly bunch and you wouldn’t want to jog their pint but Wee Pricey’s solo is still pretty good.

      Love Chas Chandler’s Honey Monster impersonation.

    434. Cadogan Enright says:

      I’m looking for somene to let me crash on the couch or in the spare room Friday 25 and Sat 26th for social in Glasgow

      Willing to buy dinner and drinks for a few pointers to a tour of Glasgow sat morning. Have canvassed long hours there in the past a few times but never ‘seen’ the place

      Am quite sane and well behaved – as you can see from Facebook page

    435. Oneironaut says:

      Just thought I’d wander back in after experiencing a few days not really worth talking about and probably best forgotten.

      For now I bring a gift of another music link.
      Not sure how many people are familiar with the Gorillaz track “On Melancholy Hill”…

      This is a cover version by a favourite singer of mine who does it quite well I think ๐Ÿ™‚

      (Sorry about the “Sun” logo on the video. Then again, like much in life, if the video was completely perfect, it would probably be boring!)

      Peace, Love and Neos (Can’t afford Oreos this week, so got the cheap Lidl version instead!)

    436. Thistle says:

      Hi folks

      go an idea… Im thinking Indy Live does a livestream Blab with a couple of WoS members to discuss the WoS event on 26th. A Blab is similar to Skype but allows you to invite viewers onto panel. It’s a really cool way of getting people involved in the chat.

      Also, I need to know more about what you are wanting to do on 26th. We are going to be livestreaming the march that day but maybe you want some livestreaming done after? Email me


    437. Jdman says:

      Thanks for the birthday wishes Sam, A question, how many people knew the national flag of Tenerife was a saltire?

      I didn’t, until I asked an official coming out of Oratavo town hall why they flew the saltire everywhere, only to discover it wasn’t because they loved Scotland but because is their flag too, well bugger me!

    438. Jdman says:

      Just about to set off on a trip up mount tiede it’s covered in snow so we’ll taking warm jackets, the hairpin bends and sheer drop cause much screaming, and that’s just me!

    439. Lollysmum says:

      @ Betty Boop
      Good to see you too. I was with Morag for much of the time but didn’t recognise anyone else apart from Kendomacaroonbar.Mind you in a crowd of 3,000 people it is pretty difficult to identify individuals ๐Ÿ™‚

      @Jdman -happy birthday for when it happens

    440. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Long-time WOS reader Charles Anderson has just e-mailed me to say that he’ll be there on the 26th. He hasn’t commented before, so give him a wave!


    441. CameronB Broddie says:

      A perfect set-up for a cheesy segue to welcoming Charles but I’m getting a bit para that I may have insulted Jim Thomson with the track I dedicated to him a while back.

      Hope you’re keeping well Jim an apologies, if necessary (large men wearing spndex can be intimidating to some). I was only kiddin’ about. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    442. Thistle says:

      Just saw Cadogan Enright do a post above me. He is a really good guy so please help him out if you can.

    443. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Nobody seems to have mentioned it…

      Is there going to be an ‘official’ Wings presence on the ‘All Under One Banner’ march on the 26th? Like the banners and so on?

      Jiss askin’…

    444. X_Sticks says:

      Very sad to see the Maryhill Foodbank has been forced to close.

      Looks like they’ve been targeted but I have no idea why.

    445. X_Sticks says:

      Should also mention that Thistle and Independence Live are needing some exposure for their crowdfunder. They’re looking for 6.5k and are only at 5% with 15 days to go. They are also looking for any obsolete equipment that folk could donate:

      I’m sure they’d appreciate any help tweeting this and posting in other places to get the massage out there. Oh, and maybe a wee donation too ๐Ÿ˜€

    446. X_Sticks says:

      “Massage out there” lol. Why did Paula suddenly come to mind there? ๐Ÿ˜‰

    447. Thistle says:


      You need to use Firefox or Chrome.

    448. Thistle says:

      That should say Ronnie above ๐Ÿ™‚

      Never anybody about when you need them. OK will be on this test Blab for another wee while so please join…

    449. Macart says:

      @John King

      Mountain climbing is it? Mountain climbing?

      Exercise! My arch Nemesis. ๐Ÿ˜‰

      Have a good one John.

    450. CameronB Brodie says:

      I’ll just leave this here. Not my fault if it ends up on Yoon sites. ๐Ÿ™‚

      Here II Here – I Don’t Know Shit

    451. Jdman says:

      Mountain climbing?
      Who said anything about mountain climbing?
      We took a hire car up to the base the a cable car to the summit,
      Even so the altitude made for a little difficulty in breathing, so we didn’t spend too much time at the top,

      Heres a little quiz for everyone,
      What country has a saltire for a flag, and an independence movement?
      Hands up who said Scotland?
      But if you had said Tenerife, you would also have been correct, look it up if you don’t beleive me,
      Well who knew?

    452. Jdman says:

      Now youve left me with an image of me and Irene roped together using ice axes and crampons Sam!

    453. X_Sticks says:


      “ice axes and crampons”

      That’ll be your birthday pressie sorted then ๐Ÿ˜‰

      Have a good one John, we’ll miss you at Glasgow, but looks like Kev will be around to livestream some of it for you.

    454. Betty Boop says:


      Hope you bought Irene a hot chocolate and rum at the cafรฉ when you descended from the summit. That’s what I did 35 years ago and haven’t given up the habit even though I only attempt the ascent of the staircase now ๐Ÿ™‚

      Happy days, John.

    455. Kennedy says:

      Just chucked some cash into the war chest under my alias bdk71.

      Please put it towards Robert Peffers Wings badge.

      i am way behind with articles but catching up. If Mr Peffers has already won a badge then put it towards the next deserving candidate please.

    456. fionan says:

      Hi folks, looking for IT advice again! I need to obtain some screenshots for legal matters, but the shift-ctrl-3 doesn’t work on my laptop.

      it is a cheap Packard bell, running windows 8.1. Can anyone advise me if there is an alternative way to get screenshots please?

      Many thanks as ever, you brilliant lot! Doubt if I will make it to the 26th Wings night but hopefully the next one after that.

    457. X_Sticks says:


      Alt-PrintScreen will grab a screen, but it usually needs editing.

      In Win 8.1 you also have the snipping tool which allows you to grab any bit displayed on you screen. You should find it here: C:\Windows\System32\SnippingTool.exe. It allows you to save the picture in various formats.

    458. Stoker says:

      For those of you looking for something to watch and if you have access to Netflix, i can thoroughly recommend these 2 documentaries, i gave both a 5-Star rating:

      Bottled Life – Is all about the Swiss-based corporation Nestle and how they’ve made billions out of plundering the world’s water resources and selling it back to the consumer.

      Hot Coffee – Is all about frivolous law suits and tort reform with the main story being about a woman who sued McDonald’s after spilling her coffee and burning herself. Other interesting cases are featured in this documentary but more importantly, watch and see how the corrupt media play their part, they’re not known as the corporate media for nothing you know.

      Both documentaries make for very interesting viewing.

    459. Tinto Chiel says:

      John King: hope you’re wearing that W helmet you were wearing in Freedom Square last September when we met, ‘cos the OBR have just warned of volcanic activity in Mount Tiede area.

      On reflection, your Panama hat should be ok. Have a great time.

      Anyone feel like some unforgettable sax?

      Yes, that’s what I said, particularly from about 2.50 in.

    460. Tinto Chiel says:

      Wow! Don’t know how the link went like that.

      The Rev. will be getting the hammers out.

      Two big boys did it and ran away, honest!

    461. CameronB Brodie says:

      I’d be concerned if you were harming yourself Macart, but I’d hope you would have the curtsy of abusing yourself in private. Get yourself a tent mate. ๐Ÿ˜‰

      Saint Andrew – This World is Phuhl o’ a Number o’ Things

    462. Tinto Chiel says:

      Braw, CBB, but don’t know if it can compete with the perfection of:

      And thanks to BDTT for linking this a while ago.

    463. fionan says:

      Conon and Xsticks, many thanks for that. alt-printscreen doesn’t seem to work either so will check the painful-sounding snipping tool ๐Ÿ™‚

    464. CameronB Brodie says:

      Tinto Chiel
      I used to have twapehs as an e-mail but it lapsed. Pity ’cause my brother, who was ignorant of my address, was using Ananinginaneana. No shit. ๐Ÿ™‚

      Can I compete? Nuh. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    465. Still Positive. says:

      I have just contributed ยฃ25 and took no perks so you can add my contribution to a badge for Robert Peffers.

    466. Tinto Chiel says:

      You’ve obviously been brought up right, CBB. Thank God for the Yes city of Dundee ?.

      I’ll raise you this. To my shame, I can’t mind which Winger linked me this, but it’s a hoot too, and I’m fae Lanarkshire.

    467. Tinto Chiel says:


      ? Should have been a Barcelona fist. Damn these emojis!

    468. Thepnr says:


      If you use Google Chrome their is an easy to install extension called Full Page Screen Capture.

      Very simple to use and captures the screen perfectly, no doubt this or similar will be available for other browsers. Hope this helps.

    469. Taranaich says:

      Ahoy all,

      I’ve set up a wee Facebook page for A Wilderness of Peace for those who can’t get wordpress working, would appreciate & welcome likes/shares/etc:

      I’m going to be doing a lot of stuff with the site in the next few weeks, so watch this space!

    470. CameronB Brodie says:

      I’m sure Macart will lend you his tent once he is finished, Clootie. ๐Ÿ™‚

    471. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Taranaich –

      Good luck with it mister.

      Will you make it on the 26th? I keep pestering you, I know, but I’m getting a bitty anxious to get a handle on who’s likely to make it or not.

      And also – this goes for everyone – I would be very very grateful if anyone could offer to help plug the next Glasgow night, especially over this week-end so that folk can take note and have time to make plans, get baby-sitters, pet-sitters, whatever.

      Main thing is to get some FB and Twitter exposure – I don’t do Facebook at all, and my Twitter skills are zero. Right now we have 36-40 names confirmed, and we know from experience that many more will turn up on the evening. But this one’s different because of the daytime workshop with Cadogan and ‘Inform Scotland’, so it’s a much longer session than usual and we really need to make an effort to ‘fill’ the late afternoon/early evening with something instructive and/or entertaining before settling down to the normal quaffing.

      Please, let’s get a buzz going about this. ‘Thistle’ (you all know who he is) will be around, and it would be good if he had something solid to broadcast, even if it’s nothing more than Wingers presenting themselves to do a reading/song/poem, whatever.

      Bring the ideas here over the next few days – let’s make this one special. Nothing ventured, nothing gained an aw that jazz, eh?


    472. CameronB Brodie says:

      Ian Brotherhood
      Has Cadogan’s crash been sorted?

      I plan on getting through for the workshop, btw. That’s enough info to be giving out in public though, other than I’ll be wearing a brown Fedora. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    473. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @CamB –

      ๐Ÿ™‚ !!!

      You kept that one quiet!

      So, can I add you to the list for the evening as well? Come on man, surely you’ll linger for a glass of Pimms and some strawberries, eh?

    474. Taranaich says:

      Been too long since I picked everyone’s brains (and trust me, BRAINS WILL BE PICKED). Amma comin’, & I suspect my Mammy will too once she catches wind of this!

    475. CameronB Brodie says:

      I’m a definite. Almost certain. I’ll probably show up. I’ll do my best to get there Ian. ๐Ÿ™‚

      I see you’re not one for telling as I telt you a while back that I’d bee coming. Checking your watch? ๐Ÿ™‚

    476. Ruglonian says:

      Hi folks,

      There’s a fair wee group interested in coming along to Waxys from Yes Rutherglen, and we were talking about the National Yes Registry at tonight’s meeting so I sent Jason (the kinda organiser) a message to tell him about the opportunity to speak to like minded folk on the 26th – hope that’s ok.

      Yes Rutherglen has some merchandise and some contacts that we’re going to bring along – which reminds me, is there going to be a raffle that we can contribute to?

      How do people feel about me making a wee promotional poster that we can share on social media, and I can get them printed (business card size?) to hand out to the marchers?
      I was just thinking about something simple – blue background, Wings logo, ‘Friends of Wings get-together’ or similar and the address (see Ronnie Anderson and the Wings banner for my previous work!)

      Last word for now, to all those lurkers out there – there’s a few Wings gems unable to attend on the 26th, so you’ll have to make up the numbers! We were all lurkers once so don’t be shy (plus there will be badges ๐Ÿ˜€ )

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