Monster Zero
I spent yesterday trying to work out exactly why I was so depressed about the fatal shooting of conservative American activist Charlie Kirk.
It wasn’t because I shared many of his opinions – other than opposition to gender ideology and DEI, and (surprisingly) support for Scottish independence, we had little in common. And it wasn’t general sadness about such a young man (31), a husband and a father to two preschool children, being so brutally slain. Because over 50 people are murdered every single day in the US alone and everyone just shrugs.
Nor was it even the fact that his death was captured in all its shocking, bloody horror on video, and inescapable on social media, nor that it came just the day after footage broke of another appalling killing in the States, the unprovoked stabbing of Ukrainian refugee Iryna Zarutska by a violent lunatic who’d been released on no-fee bail despite 14 previous arrests and should never have been at large.
Nor was it the grimly predictable emergence of the fact that Kirk’s shooter appears to have been a transactivist – America’s fastest-growing murderer demographic.
In the end, the most chilling thing about this particular crime is this: Charlie Kirk was killed for doing exactly what civilised people are supposed to do.
It’s hardly a revelation that we live in one of the most highly polarised times in history, where people can become very rich and famous, and sometimes very powerful, for behaving in more and more extreme ways. Get yourself a big enough echo chamber and you can collect thousands, even millions of subscribers without ever for a single moment having to deal with anyone who doesn’t agree with you.
But Charlie Kirk did what almost nobody does any more – he went out and sought people with opposing views, on their own territory, handed them a microphone and a platform, gave them a chance to speak and invited them to prove him wrong. Indeed, he was shot under a banner saying those exact words.
He toured the US, and other places, taking people on face-to-face with only the power of his arguments. He even came to the Oxford Union earlier this year and debated its president-elect George Abaraonye, who was disowned by the Union yesterday after wretchedly responding to the murder with “CHARLIE KIRK GOT SHOT LOOOOOL!”
(Although frankly it should have disowned him long before, for turning up to the debate dressed as a tramp, disrespecting the institution/audience as much as his opponent.)
If anything, Abaraonye’s “apology” for his comments was even worse.
Kirk was rarely bested at any of these events because debate is deeply unfashionable nowadays, and hardly anyone bothers to develop the skill as a result. No matter what the subject, opposing sides scream slogans at and past each other. Politicians ignore questions and quack pre-prepared lines over and over again until their short interview slots run out, leaving nobody either informed or persuaded.
Indeed, gender ideologists went so far as to deliberately, openly make “NO DEBATE” the centrepiece of their entire strategy, a policy they’ve only abandoned after the tide of public opinion turned against them.
This site has always sought debate, because I cling as an article of faith to the belief that it’s ultimately the only way to achieve anything. During the indyref we ran a series called The Straight Debates, inviting those opposed to us to a structured and unedited discussion, but it was short-lived because almost nobody from the Unionist side would take part. (Or at best did so in extremely bad faith.)
Then we attempted to host a live debate in Scotland, offering “Better Together” equal onstage representation and time, equal audience tickets and a neutral chair approved by them, with us picking up all the costs. They refused. (We weren’t the only people who tried and failed to get the No camp to make their case to voters.)
And we made the Wee Blue Book to reach out to those who weren’t already on our side and present our viewpoint in a reasoned, adult way.
I’ve personally accepted challenges from the likes of Andrew Neil and Alex Massie to be interviewed or debate at a time and place of their choosing, only for the challenge to be quietly withdrawn. (I even offered Massie a paid column on Wings.) Despite an unparalleled record of accurate analysis, I’m never invited onto the Scottish media to discuss politics or write a newspaper opinion column or appear on a podcast*, despite usually attracting the record viewing figures for any that I do appear on. On the rare occasions journalists want to come down to Bath and do a feature (the last time it actually happened was over six years ago), their editors block them.
* To be scrupulously accurate I’ve been invited on podcasts or similar now and again, but only by people on my own side of the indy debate, and I don’t really see the point of talking amongst and to ourselves. If you’re not reaching beyond your bubble you’re basically wasting your time.
I love a debate so much I spent £220,000 just to have a proper one with some lawyers at the Court Of Session. But even then the Scottish press fell over itself to put my opponent on air for hours on end without the slightest attempt at balance, but never once asked me to give my side of the story, even when I complained to Ofcom about it.
Of course, when your site has spent years critiquing the media’s failures, it’s not much of a shock that they don’t want to give you airtime. But the real reason runs much deeper than that, and far beyond Wings or Scotland.
The bleak truth is that grown-up debate doesn’t get you a lot of clicks or ad revenue, whereas outrage and controversy do. At heart the media doesn’t really want any topic or conflict to be settled, because then they don’t get any more column inches out of it and might have to do some actual journalism to fill their pages and bulletins.
And in that atmosphere, all you ever get is escalation.
Charlie Kirk wasn’t the first person involved in politics to be assassinated and he won’t be the last. Nor is political violence the sole preserve of one side – as well as Kirk’s murder and the attempt on Donald Trump’s life before last year’s Presidential election, a number of Democrat politicians have been shot and/or killed in recent months.
But what’s uniquely dismaying here is that Kirk was a vanishingly uncommon example of someone still doing politics the right way, and the way this site has always tried to do them. He didn’t stay in his echo chamber, preaching to the converted and whipping them up with hatred. Whatever his beliefs, he went about advocating them with civility and decency – seeking disagreement, engaging with opponents rather than trying to censor or silence them, trying to find common ground, offering respect, persuading rather than bullying or belittling.
He even warned about his own fate.
And while violence itself is far from exclusive to the left, the sickening and gleeful responses to Kirk’s murder from thousands of US “liberals” – we’re not going to post them here, just as we’re not linking to the footage of his shooting, but if you want examples you can go and look on the Libs Of TikTok account – is uniquely rooted in the sort of “progressive” self-righteousness that is willing to justify killing people merely for disagreeing with you and still believing yourself to be on the right side of history.
But there’s slightly more to it than even that. Years ago I posted this on my personal Twitter account:
And it’s more true now than ever, because Charlie Kirk wasn’t just killed for debating. He was killed because he was good at it.
He was killed because the tyranny of “woke” which has governed most of the West’s politics for the last decade or more is losing the arguments in every field of battle, because most of its tenets simply cannot stand up to scrutiny and sunlight and had to be enforced by intimidation alone, and Charlie Kirk was a highly-effective weapon for its opponents. As “Game Of Thrones” creator George RR Martin put it:
“When you tear out a man’s tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you’re only telling the world that you fear what he might say.”
I don’t worry about being murdered, even though I’m currently (and for the last two and a half years) being aggressively stalked by at least one violent, deranged obsessive who had publicly called for the “ethical” assassination of his political enemies just a month before Kirk’s murder. Maybe I should.
But the truly heartbreaking thing about Charlie Kirk’s death isn’t what it signifies to individuals. It’s that it’s just one more vicious blow against the whole idea of human beings resolving their differences by talking to each other – an old-fashioned concept already barely clinging on by its fingertips in the modern world of endless grievance-mining, of microaggressions and micro-attention-spans, where words are decried as “violence” by those who then enthusiastically cheer on the real thing.
Whatever your politics, Wednesday’s events made the world a worse place, not just in the immediate sense and for those directly affected but for all our futures too. I have no doubt at all that the cowardly murder will backfire on the culprit and their cause/s disastrously, but it also drags all of us just that little bit further down into the gutter.
America has 350 million people and 400 million guns with 1 trillion rounds of ammunition.
About 390 million of the guns are in the hands of conservative / republican / MAGA / “amendment”-lovers, so this could get very interesting.
Wouldn’t surprise me if the next “pride” (SHAME) march is cut down by automatic gunfire from all angles by serious people who know what they are doing.
All this shows the danger of perverting the language – for if trannies (or other activists) say
– silence is violence
– deadnaming is violence
– misgendering is violence
– hate speech is violence
then they are justifying, to themselves, their actual violence as “self defence” (cf the shitty gangster state) or as retaliation; shooting people who say hurty words, is just fine
They will soon find out all about it, then it’s over for them.
I keep repeating this….the lunatics who shoot their ‘liberal’ mouths off and demand violence constantly, should be very, very aware that if they ever succeed in getting their way, then the bloodbath will be protracted and nasty…..and only one side will lose badly.
It would take a book to chronicle all the things wrong with your comment, but for starters, US Blacks are 6 times as likely to murder someone as US Whites. And Blacks are the Democratic Party’s core constituency. That is why the murder rates are so high in Democrat-run US cities. The same cities that have the mis-named “gun control” laws. Even within those cities, the murder rates in the White parts of the city are much lower than the murder rates in the Black parts.
it would take a book to chronicle all the things utterly irrelevant in your comment to the point I was making
A proclivity towards murder counts for very little when a real conflict kicks off.
As to your ‘blacks’ comment 13% of the US population is black. 60% is white. Hispanic people in the US traditionally have a long-standing animosity and suspicion toward black communities and vice versa.
It doesn’t take a genius to see who would be worse off in any racial conflict brewed up by headcases.
Better for everyone if it all just cools down and the ‘liberals’ stfu for five minutes.
The best post i have ever read on Wings. Thank you.
On the subject of relevant data, this analysis from the ADL…..
link to adl.org
……includes the statistics that right wing extremism accounts for 76% of all extremist related murders in the USA over the past decade (2015 – 2024).
It is worth pointing out (and it seems bizarre that this needs to actually spelled out in Janet and John terms) that shooting one’s mouth off is not the same as actually shooting a gun off.
The reality remains, regardless of some of the ridiculous memes claiming that the opposite is the case, that right wing political extremist violence represents the biggest threat in this regard.
Rob Dickinson’s observation, therefore, contains only one error in that what he predicts is not a prediction because it already happening.
Wise words indeed, Stu.
“I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.” Voltaire, (Hall, 1906).
Charlie Kirk was hot because he “betrayed” Israel and those who funded him.
Stop referring to his opponents as “leftists”. That bunch of middle-class whining failures are sod-all to do with the true left.
True leftists build the worlds most successful economy, build thousands of miles of high speed rail, launch spaceships and return some dignity to their nation.
True leftists rescued their country from foreign domination and actually care for their people. AND they know who is a man and who is a woman.
Do not tarnish the name of the left with the pathetic trannies and the big money behind them.
I will shed no tears for the demise of a fascist idealogue, no matter his debating skills, no matter his incredibly late realisation the Israel and its apologists are the No1 problem in the world today.
Enjoy the “manhunt in Utah”, the shooter is already having a beer in Tel Aviv.
You can do better Stu…..
But the monthly donation will keep on coming.
PS Hatey McHateface – GIRUY
I never mentioned the word “leftists”. But the modern political left is absolutely infested. And the apparent shooter has just been arrested.
Hear, hear
Apparent shooter = probable patsy?
I agree with some of what Spelvic Cloister has written but disagree that Kirk was a fascist idealogue. I think he was a fairly moderate conservative Christian, highly intelligent, a gifted communicator and debater. I suppose he was quite similar to Billboard Chris.
But Charlie Kirk was starting to delve into, and expose, some stuff that some very powerful people didn’t want him delving into, and he knew it.
Firstly,
“A lie is three times around the world before the truth has got its boots on.”
– Paraphrasing of old saying
Particularly so in an era and context of high polarisation and instant gratification.
So we’ve got yet another arrest following the two arrested initially who were then let go. Along with a report which seems to indicate an MO adapted from the scene in that episode of Blackadder where the two actors are accused of writing down their plot to kill the Prince.
Or am I thinking of the trail of breadcrumbs in the Hansel and Gretel tale?
Certainly, a rifle and cartridges inscribed with [checks notes]
“chilling messages promoting “transgender and anti-fascist ideology” is giving a pile of passports amazingly found at the scene of a collapsed and burnt out multi story tower block twenty four years ago yesterday a run for its money in the credibility stakes.
That word “apparent” in which that link is embedded is doing a shed load of heavy lifting here. Particularly given the usual caveats umpteen paragraphs into the story:
“However, a law enforcement official familiar with the investigation warned The New York Times that the report had not been corroborated by analysts, and contradicted other evaluations of evidence collected.
The official urged extreme caution and warned that the inscriptions could have been misread or misconstrued in such a rapidly unfolding investigation.”
Which brings us to the second point. Which is the Gell-Mann effect:
link to goodreads.com
In this case, the seeming difficulty too many who apply the method of determining an accurate description of something based on recognised objective criteria by rejecting the self-description of biological males claiming to be women, but who fail to apply the same approach to people who claim to be “left”/”progressive”.
link to davehansell.substack.com
Its a bit early in the process to be reaching firm conclusions and like so many other major incidents of its type which we have become used to the likelihood that we will know exactly what happened, who was responsible and what the motive was/is, will be determined not by the objective facts but by a carefully constructed narrative.
On which note, and judging from some of the, lets go with. innuendo even here, this piece from the Rev Chris Hedges……
link to chrishedges.substack.com
……paints a bleak picture of the way in which this tragic murder is already being used.
Where even as the police are collecting and assessing evidence the mirror image of what Stuart Campbell has written here is already being disseminated from the top of the body politic into the discourse by the self-appointed parish guardians as to who or what is responsible.
Such convenient definitions (“radical left”) – adopting the same tactics, approach and mindset of the ‘woke’ TERF and similar self-definitions (oh! the irony) – contained in the rhetoric of self-appointed parish guardians of what is and is not US or Western ‘culture’ (as though culture stands still and is set in aspic for all time), which is provided in the examples Hedges quotes in this piece, further escalates the divide and rule strategy to even higher levels.
Providing the new base level for increased violence against anyone, both inside and outside the US/Collective West, who does not fit or toe this narrow supremacist doctrine of the self-appointed culture warriors of the exceptionalist culture of “the Garden”.
Which, to call a spade a spade, is what Charlie Kirk found himself a part of simply as a result of those who supported him when he was alive and who are already using him as a martyr.
People who in one moment are spitting, supporting and excusing venomous violence (in addition to a live-streamed genocide) to the extent of justifying yet another attempted political murder and assassination of people negotiating under the metaphorical neutrality of a white flag; and in the next are switching, with barely a pause to breathe, to hypocritically criticising the use of what they have already determined and self-defined as political violence because their “Rules Based International Order” does not do sauce for the gander.
Words and labels do matter and care needs to be vigilantly taken to avoid contributing to another manufactured spiral of violence.
Where’s this “live-streamed genocide” then?
Oh wait. You’ll be referring to the gazza war and the pretendy “genocide” that could be stopped tomorrow by the release of 20 live hostages and 30 dead bodies.
The only “genocide” in the entire history of genocide that could be ended by a trivial act.
As for the Qatar boys with their cash, their swanky villas and their prozzies, supposedly “negotiating”, they were prepared to sit fat, rich and comfortable indefinitely while the corpses of their own people piled up ever higher. Sadly, it looks like the attack failed to kill them all, but the sadness is mostly on the part of their own people.
They will now have to endure more days, weeks, months and years of hell until the hostages, alive or dead, are returned.
Which “hostages” are you talking about, hateface?
Because there’s a lot more than the ones you are selectively picking and choosing.
If you wish to be taken seriously on this and related matters, the general principle needs to be applied consistently rather than selectively for convenience. The use of the term ‘hostages’ applied in this context and in this way continues to blatantly and pointedly ignore the far greater number of Palestinians held in the same position of captivity by a settler state practising apartheid on other people’s land.
Why are Palestinians held in captivity by Israel not also considered to be “hostages”? Why is their captivity not also considered in the same way?
The Israeli Information Centre for Human rights in the Occupied Territories notes that:
“At the end of December 2024, the Israel Prison Service (IPS) was holding 9,619 Palestinians in detention or in prison on what it defined “security” grounds, including 2,216 from the Gaza Strip. At that time, the IPS was also holding 1,705 Palestinians, 3 of them from the Gaza Strip, for being in Israel illegally.”
link to btselem.org
Whilst the International Organisation of Solidarity with Palestinian Prisoners observes that there are
“Child detainees under the age of 18.
(Addameer Prisoner Support and Human Rights Association, 7-1-2025).
“Among them are 94 children held in Megiddo Prison, including 24 child detainees from Gaza, and 40 children under administrative detention.
The number of child arrest cases in the West Bank after October 7 has reached approximately 760 (Palestinian Prisoners› Club, 7-1-2025).”
Meanwhile, this week even an Israeli court has ruled that Palestinian prisoners – or should that be ‘hostages’? – are not being adequately fed:
link to theguardian.com
“Rights groups have documented widespread abuse in prisons and detention facilities, including insufficient food and health care, as well as poor sanitary conditions and beatings. In March, a 17-year-old Palestinian boy died at an Israeli prison, and doctors said starvation was likely the main cause of death.”
Presumably, for the slow ones at the back such as yourself, everything kicked off on 7th October 2023 and nothing happened prior to that date?
You know what kid, your bullshit double standards remind me of the attitude of Churchill, pontificating in the same way in 1937:
““I do not admit that any great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America, or the black people of Australia by the fact that a stronger race, a higher grade race has come in and taken its place”
At least Churchill had the balls to be up front and explicit.
Have you tried Specsavers, Hatey?
Or can’t you get those blinkers off your head?
I take it that the 10,000 or so Palestinian hostages in Israeli captivity don’t count – including the many children and those from the West-Bank forcibly ejected from their own land by the rabid ethnic supremacists you cheerlead for.
I bet you think nothing happened before 7th October 2023 and that it was Hamas that incinerated all those Israelis in cars fleeing the festival with Hell-fire missiles from Apache helecopters under the Hannibal Directve.
Do you actually have a coherent evidence based argument or is your crib sheet being produced by sub-contractors dragged from the bus queue?
That isn’t by accident. Socialism & Nationalism is on the rise. Capitalism is in its death throes as Joe public discovers every politician is a paid puppet for someone else’s country & their standard of living is in the toilet while oligarchs award themselves trillions.
We don’t need to look any further than Starmer to see the evidence that he isn’t a leftist or socialist either. He’s a fascist. Same with those who’ve infested the EU who are busy bumping off the opposition while harping on about democracy & rigged elections.
The US empire is failing & they’re on the brink of civil war. The TRAs have been a useful (paid) tool to hail in censorship, a police state and to remove undesirables from the gene pool who are stupid enough to voluntary fry themselves. Universities are an ideal breeding ground & are hoaching with narcissists & entitled brats to begin with.
The media is also a useful paid mouthpiece. You’ll never be invited because you’d not be singing fae the right hymn sheet & why the majority of the West now fund & follow alternative media & Kirk had a massive following & guest appearances.
Geopolitical analysts reckon it’s his views on 7th Oct being a false flag event that got him killed. He was asking far too many pertinent & reasonable questions & we’re all aware they’re another crowd that favours the “no debate” tactic written into law. US support has dive bombed in the polling, especially amongst the under 50 age group, in large part to Kirk & his various podcasts that have millions of views & followers highlighting the many discrepancies & falsehoods. Not so far fetched when you considered political pressure would instantly end the funding & weapons to that region. Senators are being busted for having more interest in the bank balance pay offs than they are for the ppl who elected them. The UN is also scunnered with the evil fuckwit those who can’t be mentioned have sent to represent them. A bunch of NEDs acting like they own the gaff whilst shouting insults across the floor to other countries.
$billions are being spent & they can’t even win against a bunch of poor sheep herders while their own citizens are getting pissed off their standard of living is in the toilet & they can’t afford a home or health care.
A massive clear out across the West is needed. Starting with banks & all those eejit think-tanks that dream up this TRA & Warmongering shit based on bad intel, greed & a need to control. They’re rigging elections to put fuckwits into power who don’t do debate or diplomacy either. They can’t even do the job either. They just follow orders. Look at the past two administrations acting like a bunch of NEDS on twitter FFS. One was “no debate” & the current one – everyone wishes he would adopt “no debate” pronto & someone take his Truth Social away LOL!
It’s happening across the EU too. They’re dropping like flies over at AfD. Seven members so far – that’s not suspicious at all. No Siree! Assassination attempts everywhere & politicians refusing to leave. It looks like France is an inch away from re-establishing the guillotine too – either for Macrons balls or maybe it’ll be for the wife’s LOL
The West is going full fascist & reverting to type. They’re all out of money & they’re being evicted from their colonies.
America has a long, long history of just shooting people they don’t agree with. I don’t think they’ve ever let a suspected terrorist/dictator see the inside of a court room to let us hear their side. Even eleven poor souls in a boat blown to smithereens suspected of drug running while we all know they much prefer private jets & a few senators on board lining their pockets.
“wish to be taken seriously”
Are you being serious?
I defer to nobody in my respect for the Rev’s standout journalism and forensic reporting but BTL is a binfire of primary school yah-booing, obsessives over sexual proclivities, and mouth-breathing fuckwits.
Not to mention that on this particular subject our host has asked us many times to desist.
So I’ll be brief.
“a lot more than the ones you are selectively picking and choosing”
I’m picking and choosing them because if they are released the war will end. I’m moderately confident that in exchange every single terrorist raghead will be swapped – that’s a fair deal for maybe 20 live survivors and maybe 30 putrefying corpses.
It speaks volumes that all of you breast-beating, flag-waving, virtue-signalling apologists for the ham assholes NEVER EVER call for them to come out with their hands up, bringing their captives with them, in exchange for anything.
The ham assholes are happy to see their own people slaughtered in the hundreds of thousands, just so long as they can keep their captives, and proclaim some sort of victory at the end.
It’s impossible to believe that the majority of external sympathisers who NEVER EVER call for the return of the hostages, are not thinking the same way. Only 200,000 casualties so far, an acceptable price to pay, let’s keep it going and maybe it will end with a “win” – 20 innocent people still in a hole in the ground.
Every comment I made was moderated and never appeared .
No swear words, no abuse and on topic,
Missing supportive post to yourself and explanation of why this is happening.
“eleven poor souls in a boat blown to smithereens suspected of drug running”
Aw, Barbie, bless your big heart.
Lets hear it for your neighbourhood dealers – they’re doing no more than try to get filthy rich on the back of their neighbour’s degradation and possible untimely death.
Regarding the narcotics situation in the US, for many years now more American citizens have died every year from illegal narcotics use than died in the entirety of the Vietnam War.
That’s the war which was supposed to have so deeply scarred the American psyche that the country could never ever again face that level of casualties.
But now they do – every fecking year – but perhaps President Trump will be the first in decades to value the lives of his fellow Americans over the “rights” of the dealing and distributing scum who prey on them.
If only somebody would take the same approach to our own scourge of drug deaths. Kill a few of the dealing and distributing scum to save dozens, maybe hundreds of ordinary Scots who have made some bad decisions along the way. And end up paying for those bad decisions with their lives.
Would agree with most of what the Reverend says above, but I would not agree that Kirk was in any sense a model democrat. I think there is plenty in his record to suggest otherwise. But daft as some of the left is, the suggestion that hatred, extremism, and violence in the US mainly come from the left, or even its lunatic fringe, is unfounded. The Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman, in his post yesterday (12 Sept., link to paulkrugman.substack.com), presented figures for “Domestic extremist-related killings in the U.S. by perpetrator affiliation, 2015-2024”. The stats, for the 429 deaths in question, say 1% miscellaneous, 18% domestic Islamist, 4% left (including Black nationalists), and 76% right. Krugman’s source is the (Jewish) Anti-Defamation League.
“Hatey McHateface says:
13 September, 2025 at 12:26 pm
“eleven poor souls in a boat blown to smithereens suspected of drug running”
Aw, Barbie, bless your big heart.2
It says Daz on the side of buses, but they don’t sell soap powder.
Decarlos Brown reported to the police that he had been given a device that controlled his eating, speech, and walking.
link to strategic-culture.su
Where exactly is your proof, Hatey? WTF is your point?
Saying something is so does not make it so. In the reality based community, Hatey, you need substantive objective based evidence. That is how reality works.
Treating an allegation, an assertion, a claim, as automatic proof of guilt with no due process is about as woke as you can get and simply demonstrates the point that the woke approach is more about the Thatcher fixation of the sovereign atomised individual than meeting the recognised criteria of collective left class politics.
link to davehansell.substack.com
However, what is really funny here is the very obvious myopia and absence of common sense observational skills on display.
Go and sit down, Hatey, and think about the logistics and total absence of efficiency of crowding eleven people in a small speedboat that you claim, parroting The Official Narrative (TON), is full of drugs.
Tell us Einstein, where is the room for the drugs? Do you see even 20 100-pound bundles of drugs? Can you see even a dozen jerry cans of extra fuel to make such a long journey across the Gulf of Mexico in the released photograph of this mighty vessel?
And as for the logistics necessary to deliver these non-existent drugs all the way from Maracaibo, Venezuela the 1,014 Nautical miles to the Florida Keys in a small boat, well, I’ll let former CIA analyst Larry Johnson Janet and John it for you, Hatey:
link to sonar21.com
This is pathetic even by your low standards.
Or is it, perhaps, that you consider evidence and proof should be determined on a selective basis dependent upon ethnicity?
@Dave H
“eleven poor souls in a boat blown to smithereens suspected of drug running”
That’s further up the thread from Barbs. You should read all the posts, not just the ones you have decided you will object to because of their author.
But hey, for what it’s worth, I’m sure they were out there looking for injured dolphins to nurse back to health.
Also FWIW, I’m a kinda fan of sinking unregistered, illegal, suspect vessels on sight. Whether narcotics runners, people-smuggling rubber dinghies, or the uninsured hulks of poot’s “shadow fleet”, I’m of the view that a few salutary sinkings would stop all of the rest of them almost overnight.
And because it’s odds on that you will be back to make some kind of racist accusation, for the rubber dinghies, I’d tow them back to waist deep water first before sinking them.
The narcotics runners and the Orcs can go straight to the bottom for all I care.
Shitface – sure you would cause yer a fascist.
Reasonable, diplomatic, law abiding Nations would respect other people’s territorial waters & Maritime international laws of the high seas & respectfully ask what they’re doing, where they’re going & detain them if they weren’t satisfied with their answer. Not blow them to smithereens & invent a story. USA has a habit of that eh? No one ever sees the inside of a courtroom. That’s handy eh? Yet these same arseholes send out minions around the globe to bang on about human right abuses & regime change. Thank fuck regime change is coming to them soon. Demoted to has been.
Everyone in the entire world knows the USA is in cahoots with the drug barons & they all hail from Colombia but they’re their friends. Plenty US senators on the payroll of the wealthy Colombian families with their cut. They prefer traveling in style tho, first class on private jets, maybe even a wee stop off to a tax haven, you’d not find them on small boats FFS.
Let’s also remember that the Anglo American loves a bit of snorting & flooding entire regions with drugs. It helps keep the riff raff dumbed down from thinking & asking questions about their failing government. They have form. China, Afghanistan – sure, didn’t some Tory lambast the yanks for tuck tailing & running & leaving all those millions behind in the Poppy fields when they fled yet another failed war?
You should follow Dave’s link to Sonar21. I love Larry Johnson. Straight talker & good guy. Always backs up his articles with hard evidence & stats. He’ll inform you of who is flooding the US with illegal drugs & it isn’t Venezuela. Hams aren’t terrorists either – again, he provides stats on terrorism in that region & it isn’t who you continue to blame – but since when do stats & hard evidence ever matter to racist fascists like you eh? It doesn’t fit yer white Suprematist world view.
BTW – there are Scots living in Ruskieland. There were waves of video blogs when that became a thing. Clean, low crime, immaculate high speed rail, designer shops, cafes, good education, clean parks, no graffiti, plenty for children & very family orientated. You should go watch a few & educate yourself. The age of the internet doesn’t excuse yer continued ignorance of world affairs.
As for Caveman up there celebrating the fall of the USSR. Aye, a pro American leader who fell for shit he’d be welcomed to the West if only he’d do X,Y & Z. Look how that ended. Betrayed & lied to but every cloud has a silver lining – he appointed P & he has turned it all around. The USA lived large with no real opposition to their supremacy when the USSR fell & we all suffered from it cause rather than being happy with their lot they decided to expand & destabilise & bully the rest of the world killing MILLIONS in the process. Mainly unarmed civilians & unarmed countries. Good riddance to them. The world will breathe a sigh of relief it’s finally over. That’s if they don’t resort to nukes cause they’re already evil & have used them before while policing who else can have them. Hypocritters.
“Clean, low crime, immaculate high speed rail, designer shops”
And that’s just in the solitary confinement penitentiaries for believers in democracy!
And, if you can make it all the way to tsar, extended life for perhaps 150 years, courtesy of advanced organ harvesting techniques.
You forgot to mention good wages in the munitions factories, excellent signing on bonuses for the young men of their colonies, and pardons for the rapists and murderers who volunteer for 6 months at the front.
And seemingly, the best care and expertise in the world for those survivors who need prosthetics, and there are a heck of a lot of them. If you get blown to bits though, as a heck of a lot of them do (Yay!), it’s uncertain if you will get even a plot 6 feet by 2. They don’t honour their dead much, particularly the third-world, colonized they trick into the meat grinder.
Lately too, kilometer long queues at filling stations. Somebody has been blowing up the fuel refining and distribution infrastructure. Whoops!
Not to mention the perennial problems with the window catches on high-rise buildings.
Hows your poot love child plan coming along, Barbs? Has he sent you a dick pic yet?
“The postmodern emphasis on ‘narrative’; and rejection as old fashioned, quaint and uncool all talk of an external reality?—?independent of our thought processes but in principle accessible by empirical methods?—?has served, as some prescient souls warned decades ago that it would, thoroughly reactionary ends. If there’s no knowable reality, then all manner of key principles are eroded?—?such as the distinction between being accused of something, and being found guilty of it!”
Hatey,
What evidence exists for assuming this boat which could never have reached the USA was Illegal and unregistered?
To paraphrase our host:
“How does it work? Who gets to define what is or isn’t illegal? On what evidence? Is it the first to tweet or to get a quote out to the media? Is it the one with most Twitter followers? Is it the richest one who can afford the best/most lawyers? Is it based on a majority, and if so who’s doing the counting?”
Added to that are the questions:
Is it who shouts the loudest? Or those who can be more violent?
The position you are advocating is no different to those who celebrate the murder of Charlie Kirk.
What business is it of you or anyone else to make such decisions and act as the God, judge, jury and executioner of others on the basis of your own opinion with no evidence to substantiate such extreme measures with no due process or evidence.
Evidence, which, when presented, is simply ignored anyway.
How is this any different to what is portrayed as the ‘woke’ approach of using extreme violence on the basis of evidence free feelings?
How is the position you are advocating of using extreme violence against anyone you decide needs to be killed, with zero evidence, any different from the same approach taken by the extremists of the Trans Rights groups?
So far you have been reasonably clear that you have no problem with the mass slaughter of Palestinians; no problem with using extreme violence on people thousands of miles away on the basis of your evidence free opinion; and no problem with sinking ships trading material between countries just because they are properly and legally insured by someone other than Lloyds of London.
It sounds like you would be at home with the manifest destiny and white supremacist crowd.
@Dave Hansell
If you are going to misrepresent my position on topics under discussion, I see little reason to engage seriously with you.
Our generous host doesn’t want free, open and honest BTL debate. If he did, he would take the time and trouble to moderate the site. The potty-mouthed infants, for example, would have been shown the door lang syne.
You seem to be particularly exercised about these 11 boys in a boat you claim couldn’t have been going anywhere. The reality is you have no more idea of who these people were, where they came from, where they were heading, or what they were up to than I have. The reality is that you cannot even say with any confidence that the entire episode was not an AI-generated fake. And neither can I, nor anybody else posting on here
Regarding your risible allegation that I have “no problem with the mass slaughter of Palestinians”, I have frequently pointed out what I believe to be the best solution to that problem and hence the best hope of ending the mass slaughter. The yellow ham assholes should unconditionally surrender and come out of their holes, hands up, with the live ones and the dead ones in tow.
So what if they then get lined up and shot in the back of the head, one by one? Their actions have already caused the deaths of 200K of their own people and the destruction of most of their country. They’re medieval nihilists in any case, that’s their creed. They can hasten to present their justifications for their actions to their god.
And I’m confident there would be plenty of Palestinians keen to fire the despatching shots themselves.
And of course, if they had had the guts to do this a year ago, they could have negotiated a safe haven for themselves, with all the money they had extorted from their own people intact. But they made the choice of persevering in the face of the ever rising body count of their own people, partially encouraged by useful western idiots like yourself who have NEVER EVER bothered to tell them – it’s all over, you tried, you lost, it’s hopeless, give it up for the sake of your own innocents.
“…If you wish to be taken seriously on this and related matters…”
No half intelligent person would take #SitePrick1 seriously on any subject. He/she/it is a paid goon.
Cave dweller,
I am also an engineer. With around twenty years more time served and experience than a young sprog such as yourself.
Your simplistic reductionist analogy between assessing an economy based on GDP measurements and gauges for temperature etc is akin to comparing apples with oranges.
Firstly, what you are missing is how that GDP is constructed in parasitic rentier economies such as the USA where unproductive rent – which, incidentally, is what Adam Smith meant by a ‘Free Market'(one free of the overhead of rents) – and other criteria with no intrinsic value is counted into the GDP.
One example, among many, are practices such as adding to the GDP figures the amount of nominal rent a house owner would be paying if he/she did not own their own property.
Similarly, the practice of large corporations, Apple for example, buying their own stock to inflate the share prices rather than use that money to produce actual products of value – which gives the top management manipulating the stock price in this way massive bonuses – adds nothing whatsoever to the economy of actual value.
Or, let’s take retail goods. Could be a TV, fridge, cooker, whatever. A particular model sells for a particular price and then somewhere down the line the manufacturer makes a slight improvement to the same model and despite it selling for the same price a figure is nominally added to the cost of that model (and this occurs across the board) for GDP purposes.
You’ve already been provided with a URL link detailing how the US has fiddled its employment figures and the notion that such practices, as given in just a few examples above, are not commonplace is simply magical thinking.
The fact is that as both a measure of actual value and as an assessment of an economy, GDP has become meaningless as a reliable tool as a result of such practices. As any systems engineer who actually knows their backside from a hole in the ground knows, “Where there’s money, there’s a fiddle.”
Progress does not stand still and other more robust (not the same as perfect) assessment models such as Purchasing Power Parity (PPP) are replacing this no longer fit for purpose GDP model.
However, let’s come at this from another angle. What are we measuring here?
Is it mere numbers – which can be fiddled? Or is it actual productive value which is of genuine worth, rather than speculative rent of no productive value?
How would one go about making such an assessment for comparison purposes?
How about the actual manufacturing output of an economy. That represents a reasonable measure of what value an economy based on industrial production (which the US was based on in the middle of the last century but which is no longer the case) is actually worth compared to one (such as the USA and European economies today) in terms of what really matters – Real VALUE.
Now you can go look up the actual stats on that or not to compare and contrast the comparative size of the two economies in question. You will find that China outproduces the US, Japan, and Germany combined.
It invests in its own people and infrastructure, and even the IMF/World Bank record that between 700-800 million people have been lifted out of poverty in China in the last few decades whereas the USA is going in the opposite direction in the measurements which actually matter to real people and in terms of the coherence of the respective societies.
O course, whether you choose to ignore these realities and prefer, like the ‘woke’, to operate in your own reality is immaterial. Because reality exists whether you believe it or not.
And reality has outcomes. Consequences, even, for those who deliberately choose to ignore it because their fragile little ego’s can’t cope with not thinking of themselves, their type of social system and societal structure and culture as the biggest baddest and bestest.
Despite all the available evidence to the contrary.
And right on cue, here’s a real live current example of a failed and collapsing economic paradigm:
link to theguardian.com
Summary: Decades of de-industrialisation in favour of building an economy based on speculative finance producing nothing of value has resulted in an absence of skills, expertise, knowledge and experience to the extent that companies investing in the USA have to temporarily import the necessary skilled and experienced labour to build the plant.
Except, that in the current numptyland that the US and the Collective West has become, foreign workers are being arrested, put in chains, and deported. Because we can’t have’foreign’ untermenschen doing work here even if we no longer have the necessary skills, expertise, knowledge and experience to do it ourselves.
Because all that has been deliberately managed out of the economy in favour of dragging random people from the bus stop, giving them a weeks based Computer Based Training and two weeks with someone with zero experience under their belt whose only been doing the job six months themselves.
And what’s really funny here is that Trump tried to persuade them to come back, and only one out of 316 agreed.
That will have further additional knock on consequences. Companies investing elsewhere. Loss of all the added jobs in the supply chain that would have accrued and in other parts of the local economy of Georgia.
And this is not an isolated example demonstrating an economy going in the wrong direction:
link to theguardian.com
It’s not quantum mechanics, Caveboy. The condition of an economy is not based on the magical figures of simplistic GDP paradigms. WHAT CRITERIA is being used to make the assessment is what counts in the real world.
A lot of us would like to have some of that in our own economies. Unfortunately, we are being held back by Neanderthals who very clearly prefer that not only they live in caves in a backward economy but also to force everyone else to do the same with their backwards looking prejudices.
If this site allowed it, visual proof could be provided demonstrating the stark differences
Hatey,
1. If you have evidence that the video was an AI fake. Present it. We are all ears. Or should that be eyes.
2. I have no need to know who the people in the boat were. There was no way they were a danger to the USA because as I have shown with the evidence provided (a practice you seem to be unable to master):
– the boat was nowhere near the USA.
– It would not have sufficient fuel to get to the USA because it was not large enough to carry sufficient fuel to make the journey.
– The number of people in the boat meant there was no room for drugs.
There is therefore zero evidence for concluding that this was in any way:
– illegal
– a threat
– that the people on board were criminals.
If there was the USA would have produced that evidence by now.
Now you need to make your mind up on a very simple matter one way or the other.
Do you or do you not believe in the rule of law and the principles and standards of due process?
Of innocent until proven guilty based on objective evidence?
Or do you subscribe to the kind of approach which ended Charlie Kirk of extra judicial killings with no due process?
Take your time, kid. We will wait for you to catch up (if ever).
2. Which bit of the legal, moral and ethical principle of an occupied people being the ones having the right to self-defence against occupiers stealing their land, murdering their people, and holding thousands of civilians including women and children hostage, are you having problems in comprehending?
Extreme immigrant Zionist settler terrorists have been violently stealing, raping, murdering, abusing and denying civil, educational, political, property and other rights to people who have lived in that land for generations.
These same Zionist terrorists were setting off bombs in London, blowing up British service people and civilians (King David Hotel) and kidnapping and hanging British Sergeants as well as murdering Palestinians way back in the thirties and fourties.
People such as yourself who take this position of support for what the Zionist Zealots are doing dishonour the British Service people who were murdered by these fanatical thugs, who have continued the same practice with impunity afforded to them by apologists such as yourself right up to the present day.
As an ex-serviceman myself, I’m ashamed to have to share these islands with anyone who advocates for the position you are taking.
If this was happening to you, you would be arming yourself and resisting.
However, your solution of…..
“The yellow ham assholes should unconditionally surrender and come out of their holes, hands up, with the live ones and the dead ones in tow.”
……is one you would never accept if you were in the same position. Because surrender in this context means extinction for an entire ethnic group. It is existential. There can be no surrender to fanatical Zealots with a supremacist mindset that views anyone who is not one of them (A Zionist) as vermin fit only for extermination to provide the master race with more living space and a sense of their own superiority.
And that includes Christians as well as Muslims.
However, you’ve had sufficient opportunity to demonstrate that you are in any way different to the kind of fanatic who views brown-skinned people as expendable with no rights to due process.
Your attitude is very clearly one of Western exceptionalism. Of resolving issues by extra judicial killings or trampling on certain other people’s right to exist.
The only difference I can see here between you and Fox anchor Brian Kilmeade here…..
link to latimes.com
…..is that Kilmeade has the sense to stop digging when he is in a hole and review his position.
You, Hatey, just keep doubling down and hanging yourself with the rope which has been provided for you.
And in all honesty, I can’t see any difference between what you advocate for and what the nutjobs who advocate extreme violence against anyone who they object to which are featured in this article.
In fact, I’m not surprised the Rev has allowed this debate because you represent a perfect example of what he is criticising.
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@Dave Hansell
You appear to have posted your verbose reply to the wrong chat, but no matter. Its length ensured it was hard for me to miss it.
My response, by some contrast, is straightforward and to the point. You say you’re an Engineer? In that case, you will know that engineering is founded on robust, well-defined and repeatable methodologies, themselves underpinned by sound mathematics, logic and science. I particularly draw your attention to the word “repeatable”, whose meaning (I assume) isn’t lost on you.
In engineering, it is vital that for any standardised assessment, two different (competent) engineers will still come up with the same answer. This is why British Standards, ISO Standards etc. exist: to provide a repeatable, clearly defined methodology and framework to ensure that competent, objective assessments will arrive at the same output.
As an Engineer, I am frequently commissioned to conduct an environmental assessment to a specific British Standard, which restricts me to a very narrow and well defined calculation methodology (among other things). By definition, I don’t get to go “off piste” and say I’ve used my own non-compliant methodology for any reason (including if I don’t like the Standard, disagree with it or anything else), because if everyone did that, the whole thing falls apart. That’s not what Engineers are about; we leave that sort of thing to dullard politicians (principally on the Left) who’ve never had a real job, whose consequences are only too clear at this juncture for the UK and most especially Scotland.
Now then, go type “how do you measure the size of a country’s economy” into Google. Go on, it’s fun! The answer, within a second of two, will be as follows:
‘… A country’s economy is primarily measured by Gross Domestic Product (GDP), which is the total value of all final goods and services produced within a country’s borders during a specific period, such as a year. GDP can be calculated using the output approach (value of goods and services produced), the expenditure approach (total spending on goods and services), or the income approach (total income earned). These three methods all estimate the same total value, providing a measure of the economy’s size and health …’
This, of course, renders your copious musings entirely moot. Hopefully as you will appreciate, if some banker or politician needs to know the size of the economy for Country A, he or she will determine the size of that country’s GDP, rather than listening to “Dave Hansell” off the internet, precisely because they will need a competent, robust and above all repeatable assessment and output, in much the same way as demanded by a competent engineering assessment.
Hopefully the penny drops? (I’m an optimist)
Happy to assist.
Captain Caveman,
You miss the point entirely.
What are you measuring with GDP?
Would it perchance be the actual condition of an economy?
Are you claiming, as you appear to be, that GDP is the ONLY criteria to assess the condition and performance of an economy?
If so you are wrong.
Firstly: Explain how it is possible to conclude that GDP represents a functional practical standardised measurement which is congruent with reality between an economy in which the measurements you are using are based on made up data* which produces no intrinsic value to that economy……
* Data based not on the production of value but that of inflated speculative based prices (here’s a tip for you: Value is NOT the same as price – deal with it) built on financialisation.
…..compared to an economy in which the value (not the nominal fictional based prices) which is what you should be measuring – is built (like the American economy used to be) on real products.
It’s apples and oranges. You are not comparing measurements based on the same values because what are measuring – the data – is different in both economies.
Explain how it is of value to an economy as a “standardised” measurement that counting the nominal rent that a homeowner would pay if that homeowner were renting the property as part of the measurment criteria [checks notes] “represents value” to that economy?
It’s a made up figure. It has no value to the economy. It does not represent a tangible productive good or service. Ditto for the other examples provided for you – as well as the many other available examples.
When a measurement is based on such false data, any engineer who knows their backside from a hole in the ground goes back to first principles and checks the assumptions and the criteria being used – which are usually the cause of the problem.
Secondly; You have also failed to assess and measure other relevant criteria upon which an economy is assessed (at least out here in the reality based community).
One of which is the respective debt levels. And you have failed to factor those into the assessment when making your comparison. This is typical sloppy reductionist practice. If you bothered to get off your intellectually bone idle back side and do some proper research, you’ll find that the US debt to GDP ratio is far worse than that of the Chinese economy.
Added to the approximate $35 trillion of Federal debt is the level of private and individual State debt. All told, you are probably looking at an around about ballpark figure of $110 trillion worth of US debt (and we have not even considered the derivatives time bomb) in an economy in which there’s around an actual $6 trillion of real money circulating in the economy.
An economy is a dynamic system which is more than the sum of the parts – though in the case of the US and Western financialised economies, we are talking about system outputs which are less than the sum of the parts.
On actual real productive value; on trade volumes; on debt to GDP ratios; on infrastructure quality; on skill and educational levels; on poverty levels; and a whole host of other dynamic relevant factors and criteria which need to be assessed and measured in any comparisons between economies you have nothing to say.
Like all reductionist thinkers, you know more and more about less and less and end up knowing everything about nothing.
@Dave Hansell
Presumably you’re expecting me to wade through that verbose drivel, but I’m afraid I have bad news for you on that front my ol’ China. My Sunday mornings are better spent than trying to teach intransigent lefties their ABCs.
It’s really, really simple, Dave. Neither you, nor I, get to choose how the economic might (or otherwise) or countries is measured; that’ll be the sole preserve of those on an altogether higher pay grade: credit agencies, governments and world banks et al. In my last post, I explained to you the fundamental need for repeatable, clearly defined methodologies for such important tasks as these, albeit even these simple concepts appear to be lost on you.
If you feel aggrieved at said methodologies, take it up with the powers that be, pal. I’m busy. Perhaps a strongly-worded email to Google (lol), or maybe a letter or two to Fitch Credit Agency, (assuming you don’t bore them to death by page 48).
Alternatively, maybe deploy the same inane coping mechanism that all you lefties seem to do when confronted with harsh realities that you can’t countenance: “identify” China or R as the world’s leading economy in spite of all objective, measurable fact pointing to the opposite? You can all cheerfully drone on to each other about it in whichever tedious echo chamber etc.
Me? I’m off to walk off a very good English breakfast in Kensington Park. Good day.
“ True leftists build the worlds most successful economy, build thousands of miles of high speed rail, launch spaceships and return some dignity to their nation.”
ROFL
On which planet is that on, Chief? It certainly ain’t Earth…
He’s writing about the Covid Spreaders, CC, or maybe the Orcs.
Little difference. They’re both imperialist colonisers. They both oppress, persecute and hound to their deaths anybody who won’t conform.
But that’s never a problem for Spelvic and his ilk. He’s the sort who is always keen to take his place as concentration camp guard, gas chamber operative or informer about his neighbour’s ideological shortcomings.
That’s his definition of “dignity”.
Europe & the UK, Matey.
After WW2. Leftists gave us the NHS, Housing, rapid rebuilding, trade unions, better workforce paying & conditions, education etc.
Learn some history.
It certainly wasn’t Capitalist Neo Con Thatcherites who’ve sold everything to the highest bidder. Good luck when WW3 starts & there’s no national income or overseas colonies to pay for it any more.
Oh gawd, “Geri” is back….
/heart sinks
Mate. Care to name “… the world’s most successful economy, build thousands of miles of high speed rail, launch spaceships and return some dignity to their nation”? Because y’know, that was the bloody question.
I’ll not hold my breath matey. You reckon I should “learn some history”? Maybe you should learn to read.
The world’s most successful economy was the USA at the time. They’d to bail out little old blighty after it started a war cause Germany was gonnie steal their empire. Turns out the yanks did that as payment. Boo hoo.
Those commie bastards, y’know, those who actually won WW2 for us, launched spaceships long before the yanks & built high speed rail. They’ve also returned dignity to their nation despite decades of illegal sanctions. You don’t see them grovelling to Uncle Sam if they can launch a missile or two do you? Or someone else taking charge of their defence, trade, natural resources, energy or outsourcing manufacturing, tech & industry. They don’t even need fucking permission to use the internet or Microsoft operating systems.
Which leads neatly onto China. Ditto all of the above.
So that leaves little old Blighty. Piss poor & not a pot to piss in. The lefty socialist crew gave us a word class health service. World class universities (tho they’ve been colonised too now with fuckwits & imported foreign dumbed down shite like TRA) Minimum wage, holiday pay & workers rights & industry. They also rebuilt blighty with cheap houses & immigrants until the stupid English voted Tory again & India booted them out of their country so they’d no longer access to FREE textiles they stole from them.
Tories – they’d gladly return us to the workhouses where work would set us free eh? Sold everything & can’t take a shit without permission. In what way has that benefitted anyone in the UK? It hasn’t.
Btw, just for info, it’s a documented fact that the West fudges the figures on who has the best economy. The old GER trick. It helps Colonisers to maintain the “too poor to go it alone” mantra. Top tip, the UK doesn’t even make the top twenty. Selling financial services & charging rents isn’t an actual product! D’oh! Purchasing parity is the proper method of calculating & they don’t even rate cause they have fuck all resources of their own – they can only steal it..
The top economies are USA, China & Ruskie, genuine sovereign nations. The UK is an American colony, everything owned by the USA even though we pay for them. Tories sold everything to the highest bidder – including the curtains. Time is running out on their debts & their wee plan to colonise Ruskieland has backfired big time. Oh deary.
There ya go, there’s yer answer.
Get this everyone, “Geri” thinks that “the world’s most successful economy” was the (now defunct) CCCP. You know, that place where people had to queue for hours just to get a loaf of bread, and the lucky ones got a Lada that said CCCP didn’t even have the where with all to produce even THAT by themselves – it was a shoddy 1960s Fiat 124 copy…
“Rocket ships” my arse.
0/10 Must try A LOT hearder.
AI generator
When did R travel in space..
“R, through the Soviet Union, first traveled to space in 1957 by launching Sputnik 1, the first artificial satellite, and on April 12, 1961, achieved the first human spaceflight with Yuri Gagarin’s orbital flight aboard Vostok 1. The nation then went on to send the first animal into orbit with the dog Laika on Sputnik 2 in November 1957.”
When did the yanks?
“America traveled to space for the first time with Alan Shepard’s suborbital flight on May 5, 1961, in the Mercury-Redstone 3 (Freedom 7) spacecraft. Shepard became the first American in space, completing a 15-minute flight that reached an altitude of 116 miles.”
So long before the USA eh?
The yanks still rely on a Ruskie lift there now & again too cause they’re skint but I think that’ll be knocked on the nut now. That’s capitalism for you. No one is interested in the population. Only what profits they can earn.
Tis true they queued for bread. Sanctions & fat banking wankers & oligarchy. P made them an offer they couldn’t refuse – 1. fuck off out of politics completely. & 2- fuck off out of here if yer planning on not paying taxes. You pay what you owe & I’ll let you keep the property you’ve stolen.. pay yer taxes. ALL of them. There’ll be none of that tax exemption pish going on & you’ll not buy politicians either.
Guess who doesn’t need to queue for bread anymore? & Guess who owns half of London? & Guess who is on the brink of civil war without a pot to piss in? Trillions in debt interest alone.
Fear not though cause the ones who left settled in Blighty & soon you’ll be queuing for bread & oh lookie, they’ve asset stripped the UK.
Karma is a bitch. Go read some books.
“Guess who doesn’t need to queue for bread anymore? & Guess who owns half of London?”
We’ve seen this kind of giddy schoolgirl worship from you before. And now poot is discussing how he can arrange to live until 150. There may well be some organ harvesting from dissidents to sort first, but let’s not sweat the details.
If you’re still keen on a love child, you should be grand, and you’ve got decades to make it happen. Just think, you may even get yourself a wee penthouse pad in Mayfair!
Top tip. If you do, see to replacing the window catches yourself. Boys grow cold and all that jazz. Can’t be too careful!
“Geri” doubling down – again – on extreme stupidity I see. Quelle surprise.
I mean, where do you even START with this garbage – and is there any point in so doing, knowing that it’ll only prompt the next expletive-filled, echo-skulled, entirely irrelevant and delusional rant?
Sigh. Oh well, here goes.
Let’s remind ourselves – yet again – of the original post (you know, the actual subject matter I took issue with in the first place). Verbatim quote:
“ True leftists build the worlds most successful economy, build thousands of miles of high speed rail, launch spaceships and return some dignity to their nation.”
From this, we can surmise the following assertions:
1. “Leftists” build the worlds [sic] most successful economy (note ECONOMY, hence economic output/standard of living/wealth etc., not some fluffy intangibles and feelz)
2. Build thousands of miles of HIGH SPEED rail (presumably much improved in comparison to non “leftist” economies)
3. Launch spaceships
4. Return dignity to their nation
In terms of (1), the largest, wealthiest and most successful economy on Earth is the USA. That’s simply objective, measurable fact, meaning that the premise of the OP is laughably and demonstrably false. (The size of CCCP’s economy is c.$2tr, as compared to the USA’s $31tr, ergo SEVENTEEN times greater, and even smaller than little old Blighty’s)
As regards (2), China has the largest high speed rail network, not CCCP, so wrong again. (Further, any notion that modern day China is “leftist”, as opposed to rabidly Capitalist, is laughable).
In terms of (3), it is true that the 1950s and very early 60s CCCP space programme was for an very brief period the best in the world, but referring to their early 60s Vostok spacecraft (which was tiny and incredibly primitive, one-man craft for brief low Earth orbit) as a “rocketship” is akin to calling a balsa wood toy aircraft a jetliner. By any sane definition (which I appreciate rules you out, natch), USA is streets ahead of anyone else in space tech and achievements, from the ’60s Apollo programme, all the way to present day behemoth SpaceX Starship rockets, James Webb telescope and so on.
One also has to consider the very great cost to CCCP for their late 50s and early 60s space accomplishments. The “leftist” (totalitarian) regime did those things in lieu of providing any sort of standard of living for their impoverished people. They should’ve been building fridges, bikes, cars and electronics, not these vast propaganda vanity projects. The fact that you still to this day laud such things in spite of this, speaks volumes.
Oh, and as for (4), allow me to remind you that the CCCP ignominiously collapsed in the early 90s with the world looking on with huge relief. So thinking about it, I concede they did “return dignity to their nation” but making such an arse of things that everything fell apart.
So yeah. Stick that in yer keckle and drink it.
The USA doesn’t have the largest economy. They do that colonisers trick or having the rest of the world provide them with free stuff in return for not bombing the fck out of them. Exorbitant privilege is the term. They run a racket – proof of that is the tariff wars cause BRICS countries are no longer willing to play along. The USA also prints money to over inflate Wall Street & prop up Capitalism – as witnessed by the many bank fail bailouts the rest of the world had to suffer.
Oligarchs shouldn’t be in charge of politics. They fck everything up, again, as we see by Trump who has a cabinet stuffed with fuckwits making bad political choices.
China is a mix of both Capitalism & Socialism, so is R. There’s a lesson there. When oligarchs start making policy & buying politicians the system collapses as witnessed by every Empire before the good old US of A. Overreach & Warmongering for greed is another.
The whole reason China is now the wealthy manufacturing capital of the world & has SHARED that with it population & lifted 800 MILLION out of poverty with a 708 MILLION now described as middle class is because of Western outsourcing. Bummer eh? & l bet racist plonkers like you thought they were dumb slanty eyes who only knew good food. They also embarked on education programs to excel in mathematics, science, medicine, technology & innovation across the board & trump 70 odd sectors as measured by independent world rankings.
Capitalism gives ppl fuck all but dumbed down drones who’ll work for fck all. Every seven years it needs a bailout to survive but America is all out of bailouts now. Trillions in debt interest alone & no one is buying cause that’s another thing colonisers do, they steal ppls Gold & reserve currency & everyone cheered when they stole Ruskies & removed them from Swift payment system – but the world was paying attention & decided to dump their bonds & reserves & now they’re approaching the iceberg with no lifeboat on board.
The UK has enjoyed living off it’s coattails & also controlled by oligarchs who even buy politicians suits FFS. Yet dumb ppl like you think everything is just dandy cause the Daily Fail says it’s immigrants. Look, a squirrel.
“the largest, wealthiest and most successful economy on Earth is the USA. That’s simply objective, measurable fact”
US trade spokesperson Katherine Tai disagrees with you, Mr Cave dweller:
“Market-based US and European economies are struggling to survive against China’s “very effective” alternative economic model, a top US trade representative has warned, according to Euractiv.
Katherine Tai told a briefing in Brussels on Thursday that Beijing’s “non-market” policies will cause severe economic and political damage, unless they are tackled through appropriate “countermeasures.” Tai’s remarks came as the EU-US Trade and Technology Council (TTC) kicked off in Leuven, Belgium.
“I think what we see in terms of the challenge that we have from China is… the ability for our firms to be able to survive in competition with a very effective economic system,” Tai said in response to a question from Euractiv.
In short: China isn’t playing fair—they’re actually privileging their people and economy over financial speculation, and this is causing their firms to outcompete ours!
But what she’s really talking about gets to the essence of the difference in the two systems:
The trade official described China as a system “that we’ve articulated as being not market-based, as being fundamentally nurtured differently, against which a market-based system like ours is going to have trouble competing against and surviving.”
These are code words: what she means by “market based” is free market capitalism, while China uses more of a centrally-planned directive system, as outlined earlier.”
This from an analysis report following Yelland’s failed begging trip to China in April 2024:
link to simplicius76.substack.com
China actually manufactures things which have tangible value.
Whereas the US and Western economies are hollowed out shells because they are based on parasitic rentier finance producing no intrinsic value.
The dollar as reserve currency where the rest of the world buy and pay for the $30+ Trillion US is ending. More and more of the Global majority are trading between themselves in their own currencies and by passing US controlled systems like SWIFT/IMF/WB and WTO.
Which means the free ride for the US is coming to an end.
China and those economies in which the Demos controls capital for the benefit of the majority of society – i.e. an economy based on the principles and ideas of the political left – are leaving the US and the West behind, and they don’t have the USA’s unsustainable and unpayable debt levels which are going to crash the US and other Western economies.
Whereas a US economy where Capital controls the demos for a tiny minority of oligarchs is reduced to fiddling its own figures:
link to heininger.substack.com
Meanwhile, in the space of just 24 years the situation has flipped from the US being the major trading partner of the rest of the world to China taking that lead:
link to sonar21.com
I would post some videos showing this reality more graphically. Unfortunately, despite not containing any swear words, fancy signatures, or trigger words, every time I try to post them they encounter the legendary hammer.
Even the IMF/WB record that China has lifted some 700 to 800 million people out of poverty in less than fifty years.
You don’t see dirty litter strewn streets in China. Or tent cities of homeless people who cannot afford food, shelter or healthcare under the finance capitalist economy of the US. You don’t see crumbling infrastructure or the levels of violence.
This simplistic GDP metric you are hanging your hat on is not fit for purpose and you really do need to go away and do some proper research before putting your foot in your mouth in this way.
If all else fails, the Orcs and the Covid Spreaders excel at stealing stuff.
Other countries, former colonies, Intellectual Property Rights – these sorts of things.
Then they right royally fuck up their environment to churn out stuff cheaper than we can because we make some efforts to alleviate the coming climate catastrophe. That’s the great advantage of having an imperialist, expansionist mind set. If you make your own country uninhabitable, you can just take someone else’s.
But by all means, you boys push the superiority of the countries whose autocratic leaders are planning living until 150 and keeping control of things while they do so.
One thing is for sure – in neither of these regimes will anybody enjoy the luxury of posting critical content online. So enjoy your freedom while you have it.
Dave Hansell
Exactly this..
“China actually manufactures things which have tangible value.
Whereas the US and Western economies are hollowed out shells because they are based on parasitic rentier finance producing no intrinsic value.
The dollar as reserve currency where the rest of the world buy and pay for the $30+ Trillion US is ending. More and more of the Global majority are trading between themselves in their own currencies and by passing US controlled systems like SWIFT/IMF/WB and WTO.
Which means the free ride for the US is coming to an end.”
Shitface, China didn’t steal anything. They just weren’t interested in playing pretendy stock markets with printed money. The West outsourced it’s industries in return for cheap labour costs which they happily accepted. They then used those lean times for the greater good & invested in long term plans. It’s now cashing in & helping it’s neighbours too escape colonialism with BRICS & the belt & road initiatives to upgrade & invest in smooth shipping & trade. China wins & the country they invest in is also winning by being lifted out of their 3rd world status & the dark ages with 100 year loans from BRICS nations with no IMF/World Bank/Military bases or American foreign policy imposed on them either. It’s a win,win.
Told you before but look at Burkina Faso for a remarkable shift in fortune since it booted out the colonising Gold looters. It’s first electric car in production & long term energy security provided for it’s citizens.
What do we have? An American man child blowing up Gas pipes & LNG gas four times the price to look forward too. That was clever eh? Now Ruskies will just give it all direct to China.
The EU paying three times. 1. It’s default on Ruskies original contract. 2. It having to buy some back from India via a tour of the seas & 3. LNG from the yanks. Bravo, Capitalist wankers. That was a really bright move. That’ll show us…
Nationalism is on the rise. People are taking back control of their own resources & it’s worldwide. Brazil too. Trump thought he’d start a tariff war & now China just buys it’s agriculture from Brazil – sending millions of American farmers to the wall. Good news, little old Blighty is in the thick of it as usual & is losing vast sums of money on land rents as farmers go bust. Venezuela isn’t giving it’s oil reserves for free either to placate American Corporations – so quick, invent a story about drug barons & put a bounty on the head of a democratically elected leader of a Sovereign nation cause some sad sap will buy that narrative hook, line & sinker.
Step forward & take a bow, shiteface.
There’ll be no head honcho imperialist outfit. That’s the entire point of BRICS. Everyone will be treated as equal. Not bullied into submission.
@Dave Hensall
What an absurd post.
No, the size of a country’s economy is measured by the size of its GDP. Period. All your verbose guff about how China’s economy is really larger because feelz is your (tediously verbose) attempt to create your own lame class of facts – and failing to do so.
I’m an Engineer mate. If I want to know the temperature of something, I use a reliable instrument and use it appropriately. If the equipment reads 16.8 degrees C, that is the temperature. It isn’t 25 deg C because I think it’s sunny outside or whatever other subjective nonsense and I think it “should” be higher.
Similarly, if I want to know what the noise level is, I look at a sound level meter. If this reads 68dB, that is the sound pressure level; I don’t get to (legitimately) say it should be 80dB because someone’s playing heavy metal.
I’d also point out that “Geri” was (hilariously) talking about R (CCCP), not China – a country whose economy is flat on its arse and fully one-seventeenth the size of the US, which does suggest quite “impressive” self-delusion. You have apparently now moved the goalposts to China (as is the wont of lefties) but the hard, cold fact of the matter is that China’s economy is less than two-thirds the size of the US. FACTS.
Your trying to claim that despite objective, measurable metrics and accepted methodologies, the international community (and the rest of us) should instead accept your entirely subjective, half-arsed, ill-defined and ad hoc claims in their place, is just pathetic. You reckon it’s *me* who has his foot in his mouth for quoting facts? Take a look in the mirror pal.
As a complete aside, I always find it hard to understand why China – a totalitarian state which brutally represses its people and where no freedom of speech exists – is so adored by UK lefties? Surely any right-minded person would abhor such treatment of people? But then, the UK’s left wing government bangs people up for saying hurty words on Twitter, so glass houses I guess. Bring on Reform.
I’m only in my 50s, but within my adult lifetime, I could not have conceived of such an emasculated Scotland as we have now (and indeed the whole UK to be fair, including England). Are we really saying that Scots are prepared to have their ability to drill – and refine – their own oil taken away from them in the name of “Net ZeroTM” – by a man who’s never had a real job and can barely eat a bacon sandwich…? Without so much as a whimper, and even as China cheerfully builds new coal-fired power stations at a 10-year high?
Sad times.
“I could not have conceived of such an emasculated Scotland as we have now (and indeed the whole UK to be fair, including England). Are we really saying that Scots are prepared to have their ability to drill – and refine – their own oil taken away from them in the name of “Net ZeroTM” – by a man who’s never had a real job and can barely eat a bacon sandwich…? Without so much as a whimper, and even as China cheerfully builds new coal-fired power stations at a 10-year high?”
Ouch CC.
That zinger is gonna leave a mark!
I’m gonna whisper “It’s Scotland’s Oil” later on when I know the neighbours have gone out 🙂
I was referring to both C & R. How they’ve both turned their countries around despite being deliberately handicapped by the West either through illegal sanctions or colonialism.
But here’s a question for you. If Capitalism is the bees knees & the USA is mega rich – why are they trillions in debt interest alone & why is their standard of living so shit that they’ve almost entirely wiped out the middle class? Over 20 or so states already in recession.
Why is the wealthy fleeing the EU too?
Why is the UK also a shit place to live? A crumbling healthcare system, poor housing, poor public services & even poorer workforce heavily reliant on cheap immigration? High rents & nowhere to live? Also in recession but denying it. It’s in a death spiral. Even the clown Bojo admitted the UK hegemony was fcked.
Your sums don’t add up eh? Something is wrong in your matrix. Maybe you need to calibrate them. You can’t claim to be mega rich yet your population demonstrate otherwise. It’s just common sense eh?
That’s where ‘Tangible’ product comes into play.
As someone else put it, you hold a banquet, run up the bill, complain about the food & service, reprimand the staff, insult everyone & then walk out refusing to pay but charge the host Nation for your time after you’ve eaten everything in sight & insulted them that they should do better next time. That’s American Exuberant privilege & it’s ending. They’re no longer living it large on someone else’s dime & the printing press is out of service.
They can’t offload their debts. No one is buying them. They’ve maxed out the credit card & no matter their inflated financial ‘GDP’ it doesn’t clear the balance & interest. No one is sending them free stuff anymore in return for dollar reserves either cause they stole Iraqs, Venezuels, Afghanistans, Rs, Syrias & Lebanons reserves & the world was watching – the message was clear – they can’t be trusted. *BOOM*
R & C on the other hand are doing rather grand. Lifting their populations out of poverty & proving to be honourable trading partners. Self sufficient too. They don’t need the West for anything at all. In fact, they’re cutting them off as a lost cause. They’re tired of bad actors & wish they’d just fck off now but they won’t as the West currently throwing temper tantrums on seven fronts that their empire is over & need some wars.
It’s nice to know tho that you knuckle draggers will be off to the front lines to help maintain the Wests shit standard of living while the mega rich cheer you on. Maybe you’ll get to return to a piss soakef doorway near you minus some limbs. Don’t worry, we’ll be sure to buy you a poppy once a year. Every cloud…
@”Geri”
Ah, another dishonest, disingenuous, rambling, semi-coherent rant, right on cue.
“I was referring to both C & R.”
Yeah course you were. The Chinese were instrumental in “winning WW2 for the UK” and “launching spaceships” in the late 50s and early 60s with that famous Chinese Cosmonaut, Yuri Gagarin…
You’re full of it “Geri”. It isn’t possible to have a civilised, rational and above all honest and fair debate with the likes of you; it will always descend very rapidly to the same old pathetic “whack-a-mole” nonsense, as the scope and even subject matter of a given debate is simply shifted about from one (goal) post to the next. I’ve never suffered fools gladly and I’m not about to start now, mate – and my time is a good deal more precious to me than interacting with the likes of you, dullard.
Hilarious that you laud R for being “leftist” – that “leftist” state failed in the early 90s precisely because “leftism” doesn’t work. Same goes for China – Communist China (in the correct sense of the term) has long since gone, bar in name only. In its place (in both cases) is rabid, unfettered Capitalism; are you really trying to suggest that China is anything other?
You might be right about the UK, who knows. But I’d rather live here, for all its manifold failings, than live somewhere where I dare not speak the truth or express an opinion, for fear of being pushed out of a high storey window or banged up for 20 years in a labour camp. We haven’t sunk to such depths yet.
The thought probably never even enters your tiny mind: you are freely able to spout your bile here, you wouldn’t be afforded such a luxury in these supposed leftist utopias we should all be so jealous of and aspiring towards.
Anyway, nuff said “Geri”, I’ve a lovely Sunday roast dinner to sit down and enjoy with my family, so you can froth to your heart’s content and enjoy the last word, no doubt.
In the last few years I’ve been to both “R” and to “C”, and also to the USA a few times recently. I haven’t been to Burkina Faso (the country described as “remarkable”) because the likelihood is I’d be robbed and shot. The idea that the US is incredibly poor seems odd to square with the double-digit million dollar apartments next to Central Park, or the mansions in Monterey.
I’ve missed a good old “Geri” rant, a combination of sweating, inverse logic and “facts” which don’t survive a 5-second google search. Do people in your life know that this is what you spend your time doing? Perhaps we could do a Wings fundraiser to get you a plane ticket to Burkina Faso, you could report back on lessons learned from this remarkable country for a soon to be independent Scotland.
I had began to worry that you’ve been in prison or sectioned or something like that, so it’s nice to see you up and about continuing your important work. Thank you for everything you do.
They were instrumental in WW2, ya ignoramus. Long before you pricks showed up. They were fighting the Japanese. Did you miss the whole point of their recent WW2 commemorations?
Here, let AI help educate you. PS – stop taking yer history from fckn Hollywood, ya eejit. It makes you look a tit.
WW2 & China..
“China was a crucial member of the Allied powers in World War II, engaged in a brutal, eight-year war against Japanese aggression starting in 1937, and suffering immense casualties. China’s persistent resistance tied down hundreds of thousands of Japanese troops, preventing their deployment elsewhere in the war and making significant sacrifices in the global fight against fascism. The war, known as the Second Sino-Japanese War, culminated with Japan’s formal surrender and was recognized as one of the founding UN member states.
China’s Role:
A Major Ally: China was a key ally alongside the United States and the British Empire in the war against Japan.
The “Big Four”: The Republic of China was recognized as one of the “Big Four” Allied powers, a foundational group for the United Nations.
A Long and Costly War: China was the first nation to resist Japanese expansion, facing the Japanese invasion from 1937 until Japan’s formal surrender in 1945.
Holding Back Japanese Forces: China’s resistance was vital because it diverted a significant number of Japanese troops from other fronts, with the Allies estimating that China’s efforts tied down over 600,000 Japanese soldiers.
Chinese Expeditionary Force: China’s efforts included large-scale ground offensives and the creation of the Chinese Expeditionary Force, which advanced into Burma to reopen the Ledo Road and link China to India.
Major Impacts of the War:
Massive Casualties: The war caused immense suffering, with millions of Chinese civilians and soldiers killed, wounded, or displaced.
Devastation and Refugees: The conflict devastated China’s infrastructure, and millions were forced to become refugees within their own country.
Post-War Political Landscape: The end of World War II was followed by a renewed full-scale Chinese Civil War between the Nationalists and the Communist Party.
Founding of the UN: China’s role in the war was instrumental in the founding of the United Nations, a body that recognized China as one of the five permanent members of the Security Council. “
“Yeah course you were”
Yeah, I was. Don’t blame me for you not keeping up.
You’ve been gubbed, Matey, with hard facts you can’t dispute. You may as well admit you know jack shit & be on yer way instead of making excuses & a tit of yersel on a public forum.
When you’d to resort to the Ruskies having the wrong kind of spacecraft for your liking yer game was a bogey. Same with yer shit about how they should’ve had bread instead of vanity projects. Do you even know how illegal sanctions work?
For someone supposedly educated you aren’t half assed thick as shit. Typical knuckle dragging white Suprematist, knowing jack shit but still running yer mouth.
Capitalism sucks a country dry. It asset strips. Yer beloved Tories have sold all the family silver & yer at the mercy of other countries turning the energy off. Well done you.
You asked a question & it was answered. Not my fault you didn’t like the replies showing you up as a tit! Be off with you… Perfidious Albion is about to have it’s stint at queueing for bread. It couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of tyrants & terrorists. Karma is a btch eh?
Oh here comes the other zoomer, Aidan.
“The idea that the US is incredibly poor seems odd to square with the double-digit million dollar apartments next to Central Park, or the mansions in Monterey.”
Probably the proceeds from Ponzi schemes.
To ignore that the USA is on the brink of collapse cause they have nice apartments is absolutely priceless LMAO!
Aidan
Burkina Faso paid off their IMF mafia debts, are producing electronic cars & investing in nuclear power plants for long term energy security.
Simple question for you, where’s the UK equivalent? If a supposed third world country can do it – then why can’t the UK?
Take yer time…
Burkina Faso is not producing an electric car, they are simply replacing the badge on an electric car which is made in China, by the Dongfeng company, in Wuhan. That is why if you look at the area where this car is supposedly built, there are no sizeable buildings capable of housing vehicle manufacture. In contrast, the U.K. produces c400k electric cars a year at major plants such as Land Rover near Coventry and Nissan in Sunderland.
The supposed nuclear power plant is being built yet and I very much doubt it ever will be. The U.K. in contrast has 5 working nuclear power plants.
So let’s see if we can learn more about Burkina Faso:
GDP per capita comes in at around 1/60th of the U.K.
Life expectancy is just over 60
There are regular outbreaks of cholera and plague
But what about if one were to visit as a tourist, what kind of experience should we expect. The Foreign Office website provides us with the following insights:
“There’s a very high threat of kidnapping by Al-Qaeda and regional Islamic State-affiliated groups in Burkina Faso”
“There is a high threat from terrorism throughout the country, including increasingly in the capital, Ouagadougou”
“Street crime is a serious risk for foreign visitors”
“There is danger of armed attacks on all roads”
“Medical facilities in Burkina Faso are very limited. For serious medical treatment, evacuation to Europe is necessary”
No doubt you are staying ready to tell us about how the above is all lies perpetrated by the coloniser (or something similarly demented). So perhaps you’d like to head out there personally and report back to us. You could even take some photos, assuming your camera isn’t immediately stolen.
And yes I am sure the miles and miles of expensive apartments on Manhattan Island, the mansions of Malibu, all the expensive cars on the roads, all the Michelin star restaurants, the private jets etc etc. all of it is just funded by a Ponzi scheme. The sign of real wealth and a successful economy is people dying of TB or cholera on the pavement.
The cars – those aren’t UK companies so technically you’ve just demeaned another country for doing the same thing. Projecting again eh?
The nuclear plants will be built. The final agreement has already been signed with R & P seems a bit of a stickler for honouring International agreements. R is not only providing the technical know how but also education programs through BRICS to secure future generations with energy security.
And don’t get me started on crime & safety. The biggest terrorists on the planet are the five eyes with the UK topping the charts for meddling, funding, arming & supplying insurgents & various factions to kick off some terrorist activities while it whistles it wasn’t me. They’re well known for it. In fact, after a shit, a shave & a suit some of them are even running Syria now. All is forgiven. Exact same as the Banderas in U with their 100 yr /£3billion a year support for literal Nazis. No wonder the UK is despised on the world stage & at the UN. They’ll be ejected from the SC when these conflicts are over. There’s already a dossier against them for war crimes for attacking civilians in R. They’re a parasitic menace who are also meddling in India/Pakistan, Qatar, Cyprus & they’re looking to kick off in Bosnia. I hope it bites them in the arse. They’re satanic & don’t like peace. I reckon Trump might just be the person to do it too. He’ll be well aware they’ve continually undermined him to try win their empire back. Never going to happen – there’s no eejits willing to sign up, only terrorist factions & mercenaries & they’re unpredictable in always switching to the highest bidder.
Faso kicked out the Colonisers. Gave IMF the bird & told them to GFT. Good for them. No Gold leaves the country to Colonisers now & no slave down the mines for a $dollar a day.
@ Barbie says: 14 September, 2025 at 2:11 pm
You’re getting awful agitated, Barbs, hun, is everything OK? You need to take better care of yourself at your age.
Did you send poot your details and your plan to carry his love child?
Surely he never swiped left!
Is that why you’ve lowered your sights to some place where they’re less fussy – Burkino Faso?
“no slave down the mines for a $dollar a day”
Here you go, Barbs. News from poot land. The slaves he has working there will think a dollar a day is a bloody good deal.
link to bbc.co.uk
[I write “poot land” but technically, as some of the NK slaves are being forced into construction in the imperially colonised oblasts poot has stolen from Ukr, of course, that’s not 100% accurate]
Yer mind is always in the gutter, Hatey.
It’s an English affliction. Fckn obsessed. Seek help.
Just for info tho P does seem good breeding stock. Highly educated, articulate, diplomatic, well received & apparently beloved by his ppl (barring LGBTQWERTY++++ eejits whom he forbids mincing around city streets in bondage gear in front of children) for MRGA – making R great again LOL!
He also has the patience of a Saint on the world stage & in this conflict cause I know after the third time of offering a generous peace agreement to Nazis to stick to their own constitution along with being duped twice with Minsk 1&2 – I’d have just Oreshniked the fckrs into outer space by now starting with the biggest motormouth, blighty.
What’s your endearing features, fckface? None. That’s why yer on here 24/7 bumping yer gums & dragging yer knuckles with yer racist pish. Alone, probably wanking over the BBC coverage of a live ge*no*cide in yer Maws spare room cheering on a good famine.
“Highly educated, articulate, diplomatic, well received & apparently beloved by his ppl”
You don’t say.
Then it was never going to be, Barbs, sorry.
Don’t you go all Miss Havisham on us now!
[feck – you won’t understand that one but you can look it up]
No Geri, the difference is that the “Burkina Faso electric car” is neither owned by or built in Burkina Faso. It’s built in China and shipped off, a completely imported product. Likewise, I’m sure we can all sleep safely in our beds tonight knowing that the good people who brought us Chernobyl will be building a nuclear power plant in a 3rd world unstable country racked by terrorism and civil war. Except it won’t happen, the agreement is there to fluff the ego of the latest warlord to seize power there.
There are Geri, a lot of fantasists polluting Wings over Scotland with endless, mindless drivel. However, you by some measure, are the worst. There appears to be no regime so despotic and unstable that it can’t find your support provided they align themselves with “P” and “R”.
Let’s ask AI shall we? They’ll be far more informative than your white Suprematist/everyone is cheating/a liar/it’s not a real car – little Enguurlander bullshit..
Burkina Faso has launched its first locally designed and assembled electric vehicle, the ITAOUA, in January 2025, marking a significant step towards sustainable mobility and economic development in the country. The ITAOUA is a fully electric, solar-powered vehicle designed by Burkinabè engineers, featuring a 330 km range on a single charge and a rapid 30-minute full recharge. The vehicle boasts features like GPS, Bluetooth, and a touchscreen infotainment system.
Key Features:
Locally Designed and Assembled: The ITAOUA is a product of Burkinabè engineers and international experts, showcasing local innovation.
Electric and Solar-Powered: The vehicles are 100% electric and include built-in solar panels to extend their range.
Rapid Charging: An ITAOUA vehicle can achieve a full charge in just 30 minutes.
Long Range: It offers a range of 330 kilometers (205 miles) on a single charge.
Advanced Features: The cars are equipped with a touchscreen infotainment system, GPS navigation, and Bluetooth connectivity.
Sustainable Goal: The initiative aligns with the government’s goal to promote sustainable mobility and reduce reliance on imported vehicles and fossil fuels.
Significance:
Economic Impact: The ITAOUA is expected to create jobs and stimulate economic activity in Burkina Faso.
Technological Advancement: The development of the vehicle demonstrates Burkina Faso’s growing technological capabilities.
Regional Context: Burkina Faso joins a growing trend of African countries developing their own electric vehicle industries to promote sustainable and affordable transportation.
@”Geri”
“You’ve been gubbed, Matey”
I think not mate, perhaps a re-read is in order.
Embarrassed for you, even by your standards.
Cretin.
No Geri, it’s a Dongfeng nanobox which is made in Hubei province in China and shipped into Burkina Faso. That’s why the supposed car factory is a showroom inside a shopping centre which is shared with other retailers. They aren’t building the car in the stockroom or outside in the car park. Compare the supposed factory (around the size of a small supermarket) with the Gaydon site in the midlands where they make land rovers.
You’ve been unable to answer why a rent economy, to inflate GDP & world rankings, benefits the average Joe on the street. Same with financial services. It’s not a tangible product is it?
You’ve been told your tools are fucked. Adding in shit that shouldn’t count. The REAL measure of a healthy economy is Purchasing power parity. It’s not me saying it. It’s leading economists.
What does £50. Quid buy you in the shops compared to other countries? Very little in rip off Britain.
If their economies were as booming as they claimed – they’d not be a shit place to live would they? The US is on the brink of civil war because of it. Shit standard of living. Shit healthcare. Shit education system Trump just shut down. Shit housing. Shit pay. Shit communities. Shit fuel prices. Shit Warmongering escapades to waste $billions on foreign wars they couldn’t give a fuck about considering they haven’t actually won any yet & they’ve been warring for over 60 yrs!! You’d think practice would make perfect by now eh?
Capitalism is a failure. It’s demonstrated time & time again that it’s a failure. It constantly needs bail outs at average Joe expense. It only benefits the few (A club I very much doubt you belong to unless yer a banker or an oligarch) while screwing over the many.
Are you saying AI is wrong?
I don’t give a shit where it’s actually made at the moment. They designed it themselves & it’ll be in production. Are you really this pathetic? Instead of giving credit where credits due, you fkn nit pick.
Do we need to remind you that they’ve just booted out the thieving colonisers & it’s corrupt puppet government & you want them to have a string of factories set up overnight? You fkn moron.
Land Rover
“While owned by Tata Motors, Land Rover vehicles are still designed, developed, and manufactured at various locations, including the UK, and are known for their British design and heritage.”
If it quacks like a duck…
So Land Rover is actually owned by India. The design is British. It’s also assembled at various locations “including the UK”
Looks the same set up to me eh? The Brits design it – someone else’s makes it. I’m sure, in time, there’ll be a massive factory there that’ll meet your high standards. They’ll not need to implement American foreign policy tho & hand over some free real estate for a military base or 10 in order to approve it so that’s a win,win for Burkina Faso. UK = Nil points.
What credit is due? The Dongfeng Nanobox is an existing car already in production in China. It was neither designed in Burkina Faso, nor is it built there. You saying that you don’t care that it isn’t produced there, but YOU were providing it as an example of the remarkable progress of this little African nation. Obviously when you get called out on your bullshit you start throwing an even bigger tantrum. If you’re going to spend your time endlessly spewing out propaganda from the most repressive dictators on the planet, you’re going to have to get used to being made to look stupid now and again.
“…I’m an engineer…”
Double LOLZ.
@Geri – land rovers are designed and built in the U.K.
Dongfeng Nanoboxes are neither designed nor manufactured in Burkina Faso.
I cannot make it any simpler than that.
@ James says: 15 September, 2025 at 12:37 pm
James!
Welcome back.
How was it in Nanking?
“Are you saying AI is wrong?”
No way, Barbs.
There are only three things we can all rely on in this world – death, taxes, and the bullet-proof certainty that AI is always right.
Just like you.
AI says yer wrong, Aidan.
They really couldn’t make it any simpler for you.
“Locally Designed and Assembled: The ITAOUA is a product of Burkinabè engineers and international experts, showcasing local innovation.”
Yer Maw named you about right. Do you need an Aid to help you? Use yer finger if it helps… take yer time.
“Locally Designed and Assembled: The ITAOUA is a product of Burkinabè engineers and international experts, showcasing local innovation.”
Yes – and that’s a load of old bollocks isn’t it. It’s a Dongfeng Nanobox made in China. Leave AI alone.
Take yer complaint to Google.
They’ve wasted $billions on it. I’m sure they’ll be delighted with yer negative feedback that they’re shite & you, a nobody, knows better.
In the meantime, yay Burkina Faso! & For the dumb ppl too, yay “International experts” too. Way ta go!
“Locally Designed and Assembled: The ITAOUA is a product of Burkinabè engineers and international experts, showcasing local innovation.”
I bet Land Rover has shit assembled abroad too & has foreign components. In fact, Google says it does.
So it’s about time you stopped making an arse of yersel eh? Off ya pop now…
Yes Geri – but it’s an American product so obviously according to you it’s going to be a colonising piece of rubbish isn’t it. Couldn’t you find a reliable Burkina Faso based tool to use?
It is a colonising tool.
Same as Microsoft, cloud, Visa, Facebook, Twitter, GPS, Google, Amazon etc, etc.
They only need to block it & the UK stops.
Sure, didn’t Marco Rubio inform y’all that they can do what they want to alliances now to squeeze every last penny out of them now that they’re all completely dependent on their big tech, weapons (that don’t work – but buy them anyway) & huge tariffs.
How does it feel, mate. Little Enguurland not being a Sovereign Nation? Can’t take a piss without permission. Awwwww, & there was you lot thinking you had a special relationship an’all & it was the big, bad EU that had you by the nuts. Bummer eh?
You seem rather a fan of using it however.
But anyway, as you keep telling us, the USA is about to collapse, so no worries there. We’ll soon see those tech refugees fleeing Santa Ana for Ouagadougou won’t we.
@Aidan says: 16 September, 2025 at 7:28 am
“Ouagadougou”
I thought we were talking about Bikini Fatso, the fast-growing, hi-tech, futuristic hub that is pulling in investment and immigrants at a rate that suggests the local government must turn a blind eye to the newcomers setting up grooming gangs to abuse the indigenous lassies.
According to Grok, Ouagadougou is some shithole in Bongo Bongo Land.
It is on the verge of collapse. No one is buying their debts. Their fantastic GDP doesn’t even cover the minimum payment & that interest just keeps being added. Capitalism is crashing too. The mega rich USA has brought us austerity, austerity max, bank bailouts, inflation, hyperinflation & they’re all out of more bailouts & manipulating the markets. Their gig is up..
You don’t seem to understand how colonialism works. Now the Mafia outfit step in. The whole West will now pay Americas bills for them, you know, like little Enguurland did with it’s colonies, leaving them piss poor, destitute & working for nothing.
Trump will start with NATO & it’s overinflated weapons & move onto Trade tariffs & what assets he can transfer. I suspect the same pish poor deal the EU was given. I dunno what little old Blighty has in the way of relocating to MAGA but I guess we’ll soon find out. Probably strip them of their Gold mines & assets around the world, maybe even seize a tax haven or two. All in the shit together eh?
Personally I’m hoping he asks the Royal Family to relocate to MAGA! LOLz. Chances are nil tho. Bummer!
He’s meeting Starmer – brace yersel, sweet cheeks. You’re about to find out how special that relationship really is. It won’t end well. Trumps a narcissist & he won’t have taken kindly to the UK constantly undermining him over U, I & the Middle East.
Get yer shopping in too cause he’ll probably enforce a ban on Chinese & Indian trade. There goes Toys-r-us. Poor bairns can only have one doll this year. Ah, nostalgia eh? Right back to the Victorian era just like the Tories always wanted. Food stamps next.
Soon old blighty will be queuing for bread eh?
Yes Geri – you keep on telling us that catastrophe for the west is just around the corner and yet that keeps not happening, in fact the US seems to get richer year-on-year. It’s almost like you have absolutely no grasp of reality. Certainly no grasp of the reality that the interest the US is paying on public bonds is coming in at around a 1/3rd of your precious “R”.
So I won’t start panicking about the breadlines yet I don’t think. However, I think we should be concerned about the “remarkable” nation of Burkina Faso, with 2.3m people experiencing extreme hunger, and 40% of the population living in extreme poverty.
Keep telling yourself that if it makes yer wee bubble feel better.
Burkina has just recently booted out the Colonisers. It’s not going to be a Mecca overnight. It’ll certainly come out from the dark ages now tho & can only flourish considering they’ve plenty the world wants. Gold & Copper for example.
It’s amazing really, India has never suffered a famine since they booted out the British. Funny that.
America is in decline. It’s not only proven to be a military dud, only able to mow down unarmed civilians, defenceless countries & still lose – but it doesn’t have the funds, or the manpower, to keep it up any longer & R has defeated & demilitarised NATO all on its own. Don’t worry tho, they’ll be restocking in 2050, or something LOL but that’s reliant on them remaining friends with China cause they own all the rare earth’s needed for their military & that’s not going at all well at the moment.
It’s increasingly losing friends around the world too & it turns out those friends don’t actually need America for anything at all. Or the EU either for that matter. They’re perfectly happy not to be involved with them at all, in fact, they’ve basically told them to FO, repeatedly, via BRICS. They don’t need Swift, they don’t need trade with the West, they don’t need defending, they don’t need any energy & they don’t need American foreign policy foisted onto them via banking & currency.
They’re increasingly isolating themselves too over at the United Nations which is just turning out to be a farce. They’re literally making shit up as they go along in defiance of international law. That’s about to come to an end too as countries threaten to leave & establish another one more in keeping with the times & not a relic of the past run by has beens.
Keep taking the Kool Aid tho. I’m sure British decline is just a figment of our imaginations too.
The thoughts of many of us are with the victims of senseless violence tonight, but spare a wee thought too for Spelvic who has taken the time and trouble to share his virulent antisemitism with us.
Picture, if you will, Spelvic standing waiting for the last bus. Imagine his frantic panic as he begins to suspect that the boy behind him in the queue is circumcised.
And then, knees trembling, forehead awash with sweat, but flight instinct brought under rigid control, the last bus arrives. Only 5 minutes late – thank fuck! But then, the door opens and the driver has a big nose.
Puir Spelvic. Ain’t karma a bitch though?
The reputation of your favourite (fake) nation state is tanking – keep crying hate-filled.
‘Unless you give up the hostages we will continue to kill your civillians many of which will be children’ is not the most moral argument I have heard though to be fair, it would get a sympathetic hearing with those who have championed collective punishment over the years.
There’s a chance that if you give up the hostages the killing of the children will stop. It might actually be a very good chance.
Leaving aside arguments about how good a chance it is, the argument that it’s something new so why not try it, might be persuasive.
The argument that by giving up the hostages “we” will have lost the war is not the most moral one I have heard. Do people want the killing of the children, the thing they claim to be most exercised about, to end?
Yes or No.
Ah, so reinforcing the collective punishments are a way to make them righteous. Got ya.
Yahoo doesn’t want the hostages. He’s zero interest in them. He’s been offered them countless times & he counters back with a long list of impossible demands knowing fine well it’ll be rejected. They even agreed in the end & you even cheered when he decided just to blow up the lead peacekeepers – so do fuck off with yer fake concern.
There’s even riots on the streets of laalaa land with families demanding Yahoo fuck off. He won’t, obviously, cause he’s a dictating tyrant.
The hostage saga is an ongoing delay tactic. The greater plan isn’t exactly going to plan & they’ve fcked with the wrong countries who’ve now decided to buddy up.
Laalaa land won’t ever be happy, even with hostages returned. I’ve told you before, shiteface, follow UN telly. He wants ALL his neighbours territory & doesn’t mind showing up with graphs & charts of his great plans cause God told him they’re all terrorists – even the dugs on the street.
You don’t half zip up the back to still believe Western media pish.
@ Ex President Xiden says: 13 September, 2025 at 2:03 pm
Sorry Ex President Xiden. I thought you were debating in good faith.
Ah ken. Fit am ah like, eh? Hoo mony times am ah ganging tae fall fer that auld trick?
So it simply requires me to re-post my question:
“Do people want the killing of the children, the thing they claim to be most exercised about, to end?
Yes or No.”
Feel free to fill your boots, deflecting and making stuff up to avoid answering it a second time.
@ Barbie says: 13 September, 2025 at 2:51 pm
Sorry Barbie, I thought you were debating in good faith.
Fit am ah like, eh? I near spilled ma dram rocking wi laughter at the verra idea.
Stop digging.
You are insane, shiteface.
They’ve literally just tried to kill the negotiators in Qatar. Not for the first time either. Breaking international law by attacking a Sovereign Nation hosting the talks.
At what point will the penny drop? They don’t want the hostages back. They’re perfectly happy to receive them dead. Just like they could mow down their own attending a festival or sitting at a safe house awaiting instructions.
Yer just dumb eh?
@ Ex President Xiden says: 14 September, 2025 at 9:11 pm
“Stop digging.”
Over 24 hours and that’s your best?
Here’s what you posted earlier:
“‘Unless you give up the hostages we will continue to kill your civilians many of which will be children’ is not the most moral argument I have heard”
But it’s an argument. And it’s worth taking at face value. So anybody who really wants the killing of civilians to stop should at least be prepared to give it a try.
What’s wrong with you boys anyway? The latest figure for the true casualty count is 200,000. But not one of you will countenance trying something that has not yet been tried and might just work.
The ham assholes come out with their hands up.
Armchair warriors the lot of you. You want the “win” so bad you will move heaven and earth to avoid acknowledging the only option that might just stop the killing. Just like the “negotiators” who have spent a year now throwing their own people into the mincer while hoping that if only enough of them get killed, somebody else might do something.
God forbid the long suffering people of Scotland should ever have a movement comprised of people who think like you ruling over us.
You’d sit comfortably and smugly while we were slaughtered in our tens of thousands.
“The ham assholes come out with their hands up.”
Have you heard yerself? Out loud?
Why should people surrender to an occupying force, ya eejit?
LOL. Geri & Dave Hansell have got the Yoons so wound up with their truth telling that they’ve had to wheel “Aidan” from ‘Fifeshire’ on.
the western left was infiltrated by identity politics and its bizarre ideology (the new left, cultural marxism) – it is not “of the left” anymore, being merely
“the left wing of neoliberalism”
– which is why it is so beloved of corporations and elites. It serves their interests.
Had a bunch of trannies turned up to mingle at my grandfathers (miners) trade union, they would probably get the shit kicked out them for being “pervs”.
The chinese have a derogatory term “baizuo” for the western left, a good word which never caught on.
China pursues, how to put it – “pragmatic economic nationalism” – and is currently, obviously pissing on the west from a great height, the humiliations of the 19th century are quite fresh to them
– how is the english high speed rail, how is their new nuke power station? … fucked up – should have got the chinks in
The west would hope its military technology maintains a quality advantage over China, but this is dubious – whether it exists at all, or is in their favour, no one will know until a real war starts, which no one should want; the US has spent post ww2 largely attacking countries which could not defend themselves (and still losing).
the issies are always a good even bet for when some assassination is on the go, but they usually need a reason; I have heard he was “turning away from” them, but it seems like a stretch
“no one will know until a real war starts”
Good then that so far we have just been having a pretendy war (one million plus dead, and that’s just the Orcs) and a pretendy jenny side (200,000 dead, and that’s just the gazzan civilians).
I’m going to disagree with Confused here.
When the “real” war finally gets up to speed, no one on the receiving end will know. The survivors will likely be able to piece together that something awfully big happened. Perhaps, if there are any parts of the world unaffected, travellers from there will eventually bring the survivors a summary of what went down.
If even they know.
The worst of it will likely all happen in one 30-minute period. Anybody on the outside will struggle to tease out the timeline and work out who did what.
What the fuck has happened to us? Mair to the point, how dae we fix it?
What’s with this ‘us’? It’s America! They’re gun-crazed nutcases. And there is no solving it, especially not now the Jesus Nazi side are openly calling for civil war. Things in that increasingly desolate Third World Hellhole are going to get far worse before they get any better, or even change at all.
Just be glad you don’t live there, although culturally we’re more like that huge open-air insane asylum all the time. The bizarre UK outpouring of grief over this guy (with John Swinney babbling on about how the stateside assassination is “an attack on our politics” – Kirk’s extreme right wing position was the polar opposite of SNP policies!) has sadly proven that.
Excellent article, thoughtful and very much ‘the adult in the room’. You might want to review the tongue in cheek ‘kill with hammers’ bit at the end of the Rules section though. In the light of the selectively literal interpretations that are being applied. And of course the message in the article.
I don’t think so. I’m strangely optimistic. The effect Charlie had on American youth opening their minds and helping young folk deal with sexuality, abortion addressing Black people and a host of issues. Ask me a question was what he said.he went to them on their home turf. The Wokes who laughed got sacked. There were no riots in Utah they had vigils. Charlie has only just begun.
I hope you’re correct, Mark, he was an aspirational and inspiring role model for so many (young) people. He really walked the walk, didn’t he. A grown-up. Hopefully his legacy will live on.
I believe it is has dealt the looney left a mortal blow. The behaviour of these people rejoicing in death have been brainwashed by the likes of Hamas who are a death cult. Ironically the ones who support them would be their first victims especially Transgenders gays, lesbians woke women.All would get their throats cut. This a war on all fronts with Israel at the forefront.
I’m dying he has dealt a lethal blow to lefty trans madness.
I was brought up by a left wing father who believed in things like equal pay, better living standards, better working conditions, opportunities for the Young regardless of their background. These ideas meant something and helped shape society.
But this left wing vision has been hijacked by a venomous gang who don’t care about any of these things and whose only intent is to cause chaos, mayhem and try to steer society towards their sick delusions.
I want no part of any of this but I also don’t want any part of the right wing elite who only see society as one giant financial market.
This is why I’m now essentially non political and no longer vote except to spoil my paper or perhaps the occasional tactical vote.
RIP Charlie
Exactly all the above Stuart.
No one should ever be killed for expressing their opinions.
I said exactly the same thing when Nigel Farage got a milkshake lobbed over him. (Thank fuck we don’t have a gun problem like America’s or he’d be dead years ago no doubt.)
I fundamentally disagree with Farage on pretty much everything but he has the right to express himself without fear of violence – as does *everybody.
I believe Charlie debated with his killer. It’s on there but I can’t find it. If it’s true I can’t confirm I thought at the time he was a nutter.
BEN SHAHN:
“You have not converted a man because you have silenced him” (1968)
(Quote from John, Viscount Morley, On Compromise, 1874)
link to gobha-uisge.blogspot.com
Well at the start of this article I thought the Rev was going off the reservation given how he pushes back hard on posters talking about the spot of bother on the black sea and the middle east but as usual a well crafted post relevant pops up. It looks like the suspected shooter is in the clink and the feeding frenzy in the world media is off and running. My thoughts are with the young family of the victim and hope they are given space to grieve. Anyone who points and shoots a firearm at another person other than in a time of war or to protect an innocent from being harmed is a nutter in my opinion. RIP Mr Kirk.
A beautifully honest and fitting response to the tragedy of this young man’s death. Thank you, Stuart, for articulating what is happening everywhere and how scary the world is now.
I quite admired Kirk’s approach, if not his views on abortion, homosexuality, race.
I find it marginally ironic to quote Kirk’s words.
“I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights.”
*Statement made at Turning Point USA Faith event that took place on the Salt Lake City campus of Awaken Church on April 5, 2023*
He’s evidently paid the cost he thought worthwhile.
I think more recently he was changing his mind about a lot of things, including the people who he had previously supported and been loyal to.
Maybe he even changed his mind about the Second Amendment.
I think it’s far more likely Kirk was offed by Mossad than by a deranged leftist / trans shooter.
Yip.
Mossad wouldn’t kill a friend. Mossad only eliminates terrorists. And very successfully.
Define ‘terrorists’ ?
Kirk had recently been speaking out loudly against Israel.
Unfortunately it serves a state that conducts mass killing of civilians.
“serves a state that conducts mass killing of civilians”
You really need to put a bit more effort into your posts, Marie.
There are many states that “conduct mass killing of civilians”. Be explicit and unambiguous.
And if your phone is on some kind of plan that charges you by the word, find a new provider.
mossad were formed by terrorists, people who invented the art
link to archive.ph
their big idea was “dressing up as arabs and blowing things up”
LOL!!
Mossad calls everyone a terrorist. Even babies. Friends too if they’re surplus to requirement. Didn’t JFK find that out? Along with the crew of the USS liberty.
Even YOU could be successful, blindfolded, at just blanket bombing unarmed civilians from the skies.
It’s not big & it’s not clever. It’s evil.
They’re not very successful either. They’ve reduced the place to rubble & still aren’t winning. The only thing they’ve been successful at is the majority of the world condemning them as they cut off trade. Only a few neighbouring puppet regimes are propping it up with oil cause the coloniser owns all the weapon supplies they buy. There’s a lesson there not to be reliant on other countries for hee-haw.
THINGS ARE LOOKING TOTALITARIAN
link to adamsmith.org
I am under 25 and find the demographic signally ignorant and prejudiced, just the vegetables required for the up coming stew.
It was your generation Charlie was trying to engage. To bring debate and discussion to a tiktok generation.
An interesting thing happened in Egypt. When wee Greta’s chums went there to protest about something. The police beat them and physically throw them out of the country.
And strangely enough Greta and her inner circle where somewhere else
As conspiracy theories stalk the land if you wanted to get the Epstein story off the news cycle the killing of Mr Kirk would do the job and then some. Meanwhile Bloomberg got their hands on some eighteen thousand Epstein e-mails and have started to publish them. Given the alleged reach of the Epstein files that of course do not exist the list of possible conspirators is long and not at all distinguished.
A heartfelt post Stu. And I don’t disagree with any of your points. I didn’t follow Charlie Kirk but my wife did. She has family in America. I remember when I was 31. Working all hours to look after our children and can’t believe the grief his wife is suffering just now. But that is the human condition. 70 million killed in WW2. A Scottish Parliament that invites civil war. A few weeks ago I talked about Inalienable rights on this blog. That is what the Scottish Government don’t understand. The right to defend your family transcends law making in the Scottish Parliament aka GRRB.
Recently,someone asked Karoline Leavitt, White House Press Secretary,
`if there were plans to make trans ideology a class of domestic terrorism`.
They’re banned & listed as an extremist group in R & have been for a few years now. Even banning surgery & changing official documents with gender woo bullshit. They obviously knew what skulduggery is behind this madness & who is funding it & why.
We know from Orban it’s the banks. IMF & World Bank won’t grant loans or investments without this policy being implemented through everyone’s parliaments. I wonder how he’s getting on these days? He was flat out refusing too so it was looking like fake scandals, lawfare, regime change & colour revolutions was in his future the last time I looked. The EU were having a fit of the vapours cause he wasn’t complying.
The shooter was from a Christian / Mormon Republican voting family that was pro Trump
His Dads a cop
In this instance not a trans activist
Disappointed in you Stu
Unfortunately, it’s only possible to report information that is available at the time of publishing. Which, as I’ve tried to argue above, is why in regard to events such as this it is probably best to avoid falling into the trap of reaching conclusions too early.
However, best to keep it down, Thomas.
You don’t want to confuse with inconvenient facts those on this site BTL who have already made their minds up. It might interfere with their self-defined ‘woke’ like world view. We don’t want any more cognitive dissonance – there’s enough on display already.
“Thomas Box”
Are you saying the shooter isn’t a trans activist because
(1) He isn’t actually trans ?
or
(2) He comes from a “Christian / Mormon Republican voting family that was pro Trump”
or
(3) His Dad’s a cop ?
Why do you say “Disappointed in you Stu” ?
link to msn.com
MONSTER ZERO
************
I am NOT “disappointed in you, Stu”! You wrote a very good piece full of logic and completely rational re Charlie Kirk, the young, conservative, American activist. The only comparable tributes I have heard/read were on GB News (Channel 236 in this part of Scotland).
“GB News”?! Have you considered appearing on this channel, Stu? The “only” thing that GB News doesn’t agree with the bulk of “Wingers” is Scottish Independence! But, in my three years of viewing, they are still to be convinced! (I’ve been watching – and occasionally contributing – to Wings since it was founded in 2010.
Go to it Stu!
As the link provided by Onlooker observes:
“The Tyler Robinson case, then, has become more than just a criminal proceeding. It has become a cultural litmus test.
Charlie Kirk was a divisive figure. To some, he was a champion of free speech and traditional values. To others, he was a provocateur who courted controversy and stoked division. His death only deepens the polarization.
But the identity of his alleged killer complicates the picture even further. If a Democrat had pulled the trigger, conservative media would have declared it proof of leftist violence. If the shooter had been Muslim, the word “terrorism” would be unavoidable. If he had been trans, the headlines would be different — crueller, perhaps, and more speculative.
But Tyler Robinson? A man whose demographics align more with Kirk’s followers than his critics? That challenges the script. And in doing so, it reveals just how dependent American political discourse has become on narratives of identity.”
And not only American political discourse. With too many over on this side of the Atlantic also rushing to judgement, almost wishing, that whoever the present murder suspect is at any one time that they fit the hobgoblin identity profile they want to be responsible so they can virtue signal against the political label of their own designation.
Meanwhile, here’s Conservative commentator Candace Owens quoted on the GrayZone:
link to thegrayzone.com
“Following the confab, Kirk was bombarded with infuriated text messages and phone calls from Netanyahu’s wealthy allies in the US, including many who had funded TPUSA. According to his longtime friend, the Zionist donors treated Kirk with outright contempt, essentially ordering him to fall back into line.
“He was being told what you’re not allowed to do, and it was driving him crazy,” Kirk’s friend recalled. The conservative youth leader was not only alienated by the hostile nature of the interactions, but “frightened” by the backlash.
The friend’s account dovetails with those of multiple right-wing commentators with access to Kirk.
“I think, in the end, Charlie was going through a spiritual transformation,” Candace Owens, a conservative influencer who shifted decisively against Israel after October 7, reflected after her friend’s killing. “I know it, he was going through a lot. There was a lot of pressure, and it’s hard for me to watch the people who were pressuring him just say the things that they’re saying.”
She continued: “They wanted him to lose everything for changing or even slightly modifying an opinion. It’s very hurtful to me.”
Kirk appeared visibly outraged during an August 6 interview with conservative host Megyn Kelly, as he discussed the menacing messages he was receiving from pro-Israel bigwigs.”
Ain’t it a bugger when even Conservatives are going off script and challanging The Offical Narrative of an event like this brutal murder?
While the yanks have their freedom of speech in their constitution, it is not unrestricted (“shouting fire in a crowded theatre”) for example, but also –
In U.S. law, “fighting words” are words that, by their very nature, are likely to incite an immediate, violent reaction in the ordinary person, and are thus considered an exception to free speech protection under the First Amendment.
– the woke mon have tried, by intimidation, to extend this to any ordinary opinion they don’t like.
This perversion of language, the made up words, has been going on a long time – the creation of “hate speech” for example; this is made-up bullshit from people who don’t like free speech. So free speech isn’t allowed if it is hate speech (which I define), and hate speech is also fighting words or “literally violence”, and so, by a tortured reasoning, I can shoot you if you say stuff I don’t like. And all I need are politicans and judges who share my views.
And it is strictly enforced with Five Armed Police Officers.
In regard to the murder of Iryna Zarutska on August 22nd, and at the risk of introducing pertinent facts and contextual perspectives which some lurkers on this site can’t seem to cope with, this article provides further background:
link to strategic-culture.su
Firstly, because it challenges some of the misinformation which went viral on social media; and secondly, it provides more detail on the diagnosed medical condition of the murder and part of his arrest record.
Noting the way in which powerful vested interests in both wings of the Uni-party use their own hobby horses in ways which create and exacerbate the conditions in which people are used as pawns in this divide and rule process.
The death of Charlie Kirk has brought home what happens when dialogue dies. When debate is dead. If it was Trans or not doesn’t matter. They have sown the wind and now they shall reap the whirlwind. The game is over.
“If it was Trans or not doesn’t matter.”
Now that’s a revealing comment.
What it tells us, along with the sentence that follows it, is that for this poster (and arguably there may be others) any objective evidence is irrelevant to the “Greater” objective of monstering others and furthering a cycle of violence.
To quote from this piece:
link to randompublicjournal.com
“[The] atomised and idiosyncratic truth is actually all that matters, and anyone telling you that it’s nonsense is oppressing you by forcing their own version of reality on you.”
Proof positive that what is designated as ‘woke’ operates across the political spectrum.
To quote a local writer of my acqaintance:
“The postmodern emphasis on ‘narrative’; and rejection as old-fashioned, quaint and uncool all talk of an external reality?—?independent of our thought processes but in principle accessible by empirical methods?—?has served, as some prescient souls warned decades ago that it would, thoroughly reactionary ends. If there’s no knowable reality, then all manner of key principles are eroded?—?such as the distinction between being accused of something, and being found guilty of it!”
– Phil Roddis: Steel City Scribbler
Mirror in the bathroom……
You are full of shit.
It’s you that’s full of shit.
You’re judge, jury & executioner before the facts are even known. Yer just grabbing yer pitchfork & picking a scapegoat regardless of emerging facts & you complain dialogue is dead? LOLz… Could you be anymore hypocritical?
More evidence is emerging & it’s all looking dodgy as feck & this guy is a set up. 3 out of 10 for trying to pull off the grassy knoll distraction tho with the dork pensioner who thought he’d claim credit. Well that backfired spectacularly as he’s now up on charges for indecent images on his phone. Should we all go after pensioners now too along with the the lefty, Marxist crew?
It seems this Kirk guy was under threat from far more powerful people than some disgruntled student & it doesn’t seem suss at all that a certain someone took to the airways to protest his innocence almost immediately over an incident the other side of the world.
We’ll probably never find out the truth but the TRAs were the Oligarchs weapon of choice to usher in civil unrest (because Nationalism is on the rise) so governments could start clamping down & ushering in new Gestapo laws with the added bonus of blaming the loony left (despite this BS being rejected from various political backgrounds) Now that has been successful we’ll see them start being thrown under a bus & we need the knuckle draggers in power to sort it all out for us & fix immigration, which was another tool to sow division cause they thought they’d be willing cannon fodder for their new host Nation but surprisingly they weren’t so keen so they can all fuck off back home now. *Yawns*
They have their Lee Harvey Robinson but I suspect we’ll never know the truth.
EXPOSÉ: ‘PRO-TRANS POLICIES FAILING GENDER- CONFUSED KIDS IN CARE’
Many gender-confused children in care are being allowed to transition by their state guardians, a new report has warned.
Policy Exchange argued that the care system “has become captured by Gender Ideology”, leading councils to adopt a trans-affirming approach with vulnerable children for whom they have ‘parental responsibility’.
The findings of ‘In Absentia Parentis’ are based upon 128 replies to the think tank’s Freedom of Information (FOI) requests to all 129 county councils, unitary authorities, and London boroughs with care responsibilities.
MERMAIDS
The report’s co-authors, Lara Brown and Zachary Marsh, found that 81 out of 128 local authorities “could not provide a policy on how to support a child in care reporting gender distress”.
Eight councils admitted they “would consult no one before allowing a child to socially transition”, while 27 councils “were unable to name a person or office they would consult before permitting social transition”.
According to the FOI replies, “17 local authorities reported that they had been a member of a Stonewall Scheme in the last 48 months. 12 councils were still members.”
A dozen councils “had commissioned training from activist organisations”, involving controversial pro-trans groups — such as Mermaids and Gendered Intelligence — and some, the authors warned, “are outsourcing the development of guidance to activist groups”.
PREFERRED PRONOUNS
Oxfordshire County Council’s policy, produced by LGBTQ+ Youth in Care, stated: “Every child has the right to an identity.” The policy also advocated “using the correct pronouns” and “affirming” gender-confused children in their perceived ‘gender identity’.
When Warrington Borough Council was asked who it would consult “before allowing a Looked After Child to socially transition”, it responded: “We would not consult with anyone if a child wanted to ‘identify’ as a different gender to their sex. This would be a personal choice of the child.”
North Tyneside County Council told Policy Exchange that a child “in our care can choose to socially transition when they wish”, but said it “would encourage the child to speak to people who are important to them in making their decision”.
The authors reported: “Oxfordshire, Nottinghamshire, Staffordshire, Clackmannanshire and Surrey told us that Mermaids had provided them with training on gender identity, sex, and sexuality, and transition in the last 48 months.”
‘WAKE-UP CALL’
Former Government advisor Nimco Ali OBE noted in the report’s Foreword that “in too many cases” the system meant to safeguard some of the most vulnerable in society has been “infiltrated by individuals and organisations projecting their own ideological views about gender and identity onto children”.
She added: “This report should be a wake-up call. It exposes unacceptable gaps in policy and practice and makes it clear that we must urgently reform the way we safeguard gender questioning children in care.
“They deserve a system that is vigilant, rigorous, and free from ideology, a system that prioritises their welfare above all else.”
Endorsing the report’s findings, Former HM Chief Inspector of Education Baroness Spielman said there seems to be “instant unquestioning affirmation of gender identities” and “transition looks and feels to many to be a kind and responsive model of practice”.
RECOMMENDATIONS
Brown and Marsh said: “The publication of The Cass Review has seen significant progress in the safeguarding of gender questioning children in schools and healthcare settings.”
They argued that as the care system appears to have remained untouched by such developments, the Government should “publish statutory guidance for local authorities on supporting gender questioning children in the care of the authority”.
The authors also called on councils to “commit to keeping certain activities and facilities single sex”, not to “subscribe to diversity membership schemes”, and only commission training from groups “compliant” with the Cass Review and the Supreme Court’s ruling on biological sex.
(The Christian Institute, 12 Sept 2025)
link to christian.org.uk
Looks like an article from the Daily Mail that hasn’t given the Rev a credit:
link to archive.is
Edited clips of Kirk and others similar to them have appeared in my YouTube stream and while they are amusing to see these young ‘know it alls’ get cut down to size, they soon become hard to watch.
While the American education system is the best in the world for those with enough money, it is evident that for the rest of Americans, they are getting into tens of thousands of dollars in debt for a third rate education.
It is hardly surprising that when somebody like Kirk comes up and shows the education that they are getting into so much debt for is garbage that a lot are going to be miffed.
It doesn’t help as well that Kirk is monetising their stupidity through Social media clicks and furthering his own career.
Should he have been killed for that? Of course not but this is America, land of the free and Americans can say or do whatever you want no matter how dumb it is because they are guaranteed to do so under their constitution.
It would be easy to mock American’s but the same stupidity has been imported from there to over here and there is not much you can do about it.
The UK government has introduced an online age verification law which was marketed as keeping porn away from children but has extended beyond that to the games industry and to certain social media companies.
It is censorship pure and simple but looking at how this assassination was mostly likely motivated by the social media consumed by the assassin, the question is should the social media companies be reigned in more in order to allow a more civlilsed political discourse in society?
This, link to robinmcalpine.org, is a good read, except rather than come up with a vision for the future, what we really need is a ladder to get out of the hole that we’ve dug ourselves into.
It’s not clear that a ladder can or will be found, or that anyone knows what a ladder is. Certainly everything on offer, including Farage, maybe even particularly Farage, is just a warmed up version of the crap we’ve already been served.
“….Farage, is just a warmed up version of the crap we’ve already been served.”
Microwaved, I’d say. But apparently, you can attempt to polish a turd.
Stu,
Well done for raising the topic,
When words fail and the brain is not capable of engaging in debate any longer the ego kills the person that shows his intellect is lacking.
Attacking the person rather than the topic.
In many ways this is what happens to yourself and to those seeking independence, however this does have its roots in think tank run Society, where everyone is taught to think the same thoughts.
When politicians are no longer capable of using their intellect to think for themselves, they employ these think tank societies to think for them,
These think tanks then start running Countries with power and Sovereignty of every nation, endangered to liability to a select few whom revel in their power control over legislation and law making.
The problem arises when the intellectually drained politicians begin to join them as think tank higher Society than themselves.
Think tanks, NGO’s Advisers, the Blob, they run the nations, not the politicians.
We could miss out the front men elected politicians altogether and not notice a difference to the way any Country a is run,
For the power that pulls the Strings and decides Chaos comes from above the politician, and we witnessed this in our own Country with Stonewall and the SNP,
With Common purpose, with Human resources,
Most of these Societies are linked to each other via 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th links and so on,
The very top funding eventually leads to the same few select major financial sources,
Stupefied politicians are only there to be payed for making it appear that it is still a democracy, and not a larger dictatorship.
I Watched the EU this refuse to hold a minutes silence out of respect for the death Charlie kirk.
Where do the EU presume to openly display such a disgusting view that certain people that may not agree with them is not entitled to respect as a human being, as a father, and husband,
While holding minute silences for others that have passed.
Would I vote to Join the EU,
Not a Chance, as only certain people have human rights, ones political indoctrinated. Rather via being a human,
Think the same, act the same, do the same, or your on the outside and will be discarded as not worthy.
That is the problem of think tank mentality, sheeple required not people. Zombies of the future,
Stu, Never lose your intellect and integrity as a journalist or a human, , we’re proud of you,
At present we are run by people acting like controlled sheeple/ zombies taking the shilling.
When we witness their verbal speeches and thoughts, and the lies that don’t connect to actions taken,
Some think tank somewhere feeds s@item in an s@ite comes out.
“A decade of news in one day”
That’s where we are. The line has been drawn. Good versus evil.
The Rev giveth and the Rev taketh away.
I posted a list earlier of all the words that will get you moderated, just so that James could avoid using them, but that was ages ago and it still has not yet appeared.
CHECK THE ONLINE MAIL. Not Funny,
The NastiMonster is def.out of the closet.
Heil England!
& next week the Grand Master himself is coming.
Scotland has no answer. Scotland will just cry in its whisky and pray to whatever to give someone the balls to cry ENOUGH!
Very, very sad……
Respect at least for being able to spell whisky correctly.
That’s a molehill whose ascent defeats some of those most loudly signalling their so-called Scottish credentials.
And a capital ‘S’ for Scotland too. The republican boy fae “scotland” never did learn to get that one right.
And still hasn’t.
I would very much question young folk under 16 being mentally and physically competent to make a decision to start any type of transition. I simply don’t believe that they are mature enough to make that sort of decision.
While talking about any “confusion” about their sex is something that can be done I think the answer till they are at least 16-18 is that is something you can make up your own mind about once you are 16-18.
A lot of this in kids ir rebellion, pushing boundaries or simply being awkward or wanting to garner attention. I cannot remember a single person at my school who even thought about this stuff, never mind did something about it.
I do think the numbers involved are very low, in fact there are probably far more right on trans allies causing the grief than actual trannies and of them I suspect most are simply crossdressers rather than actual transexuals
They say 25 is when young persons minds mature and are less likely to take needless risks.
I think the motor insurance industry reflects this in youngsters premiums.
In a lot of shops if you want to buy booze they warn you to expect to be challenged about your age if you do not appear to be 25.
So;
How can these perverts get away with government funding to confuse high school students and how dare they, how dare they insinuate their way into predating in primary schools if not earlier.
Sick effers..
The whole stinking pile of them need de-funded and redd-out!
Interesting to see the numbers attending the Tommy Robinson rally today.
I make no comment about the sentiment of the Union Jack / Flag of St George bedecked marchers. That is their right to march and they should be allowed to do so peacefully whether one agrees or disagrees with their message.
And so, given the numbers, which are clearly well in excess of the !10,000 being reported in the press, the establishment controlled media is clearly under reporting the actual numbers which look very much more like 300,000 to 400,000 as opposed to 100,000. Shades of the massive, in fact ludicrous under reporting that used to happen with Scottish Independence marches.
What however surprises me is that the Government have not try to proscribe these English marchers as terrorists. That is what Britain does. That is what it does to smash concern about Britain support for the killing in Palestine. Such suppression is no different from 1930s Germany where political dissent was stamped on through arrest and forced removal.
But with this march the strength of the march and the strength of feeling was such that the police made the decision to bide their time, and pick the political protestors off in another way.
Indeed, and although they said no they were not using facial recognition it is more than clear that the police were using facial recognition to scan the crowds of marchers.
It will also be the case that the police will have been securing phone tower dumps of data on everyone with a mobile phone who walks past a phone mast. Surveillance is much much more extensive than folks realise. Anyone who thinks differently lives in a fantasy land where like 1930s Germany the police and government are utterly committed to free speech.
Anyway, I make no comment about the sentiment and motives of the marchers in London today save that the numbers who turned up were absolutely huge. And with demonstrations of the size that it was today, the police knew that all too well that it was not a simple matter of intimidation by arresting retired and utterly peaceful septuagenarian and octogenarian protesters.
But no one shuld think the thugs in police uniforms have gone away. Grahame Lineham found that out. Craig Murray found that out. Alex Salmond found that out. The odious tory woman Connoly found that out. The establishment and their police thugs bide their time. Today was just not the day for them.
No way would the UK establishment proscribe the supporters of Tel Aviv Tommy.
The Unite the Kingdoms demonstration had a minute silence for Charlie Kirk followed by a lone piper. The first time I’ve felt proud of Scotland in a long time.
A great day for freedom
“The first time I’ve felt proud of Scotland in a long time.”
Ever, surely? Butchers Apron get you moist, did it?
Moist! I slid off the seat
WHO WILL STEP FORWARD AS ENGLAND’S DUCE?
Scotland the very, very, very NAÏVE in yet another existential quandary.
Under the kilt nothing works apparently.
Once an arsewipe, always an arsewipe!
In a parallel universe?
Anyone who thinks that the assassination attempt on Trump was real obviously believes everything that they show in the media is true – it was a staged set up – like they do with all of the other staged set ups called FALSE FLAGS as an excuse to influence a vote or referendum – the FAKE Jo Cox murder is an example of this as exposed on Richplanet TV by Richard D Hall and many others.
Of course there are the two FALSE FLAGS that were real such as 9/11 and 7/7 London Bombings but NOT carried out by any terrorists never mind the FAKE Muslim kind created by our governments as bogey men in order to sucker the dumb masses into backing them going into countries that they do not control in order to take these countries out and put in fellow puppet governments to run them on behalf of the mafias that own and control most of this planet.
Real people did die in these two attacks but that led to many victims families constantly hassling the governments for REAL investigations into these “attacks” when so many of these families and everyone else know that so much of what the governments said happened during these went totally against the REAL evidence they could not let that happen so since these two events all of these so called terror attacks have been totally FAKE using CRISIS ACTORS. You just have to go and look at all of the videos etc re the totally FAKE Manchester Bombing on Richard D Hall’s Richplanet TV website to see how they corrupt legal system and government have been stopping him putting any EVIDENCE in to defend himself and expose the FAKE Crisis Actor who is “suing” him just like they shut down Chris Spivey for totally exposing the totally FAKE Lee Rigby “murder”.
All of these False Flags have also been used to bring in even more draconian laws against the people – they use their new “anti-terrorism laws” to shut people from exposing what they are up to and allow them to by-pass peoples rights etc. They are dividing everyone via religion, womens rights movement, LBGT etc, Trans, BLM with the FAKE George Floyd killing, politics – left and right etc – all cheeks of the same backside and all created by these mafias as divide and control and most people are too dumb to realise all of this.
How many of these people such as Charlie Kirk and Tommy Robinson etc are put out there to create division – the usual puppets – who never mention everything that I have exposed in my video The Democracy Illusion Everything Is WAS A Corporation on my William Woods Youtube channel that exposes every single religions, political party etc are involved in everything that is going on and the answer to changing everything for the better is in that video re debt and interest and inflation free national credit etc. All of these people are actually helping these mafias to bring in that agenda exposed in that video.
Was the Charlie Kirk assassination real – I doubt it going by all of the other FAKERY that millions of us all over the world have EVIDENCE of downloaded and saved as our corrupt governments and social media ban and block to save the masses from finding out the truth – most of the masses prefer wallowing in drivel anyway and that is why these crooks have been getting away with everything up till now.
The New Zealand government banned anyone in their country from watching or owning the video of the so called Christchurch Mosque Shooting because it was so pathetically done and totally exposed this as FAKE but people all over the world have been exposing it since then and a Forensic Study by a Forensic Analyst of the New Zealand Police has just been presented in a New Zealand court exposing this shooting as totally FAKE as per the video etc on this link – Youtube etc are taking down this video as fast as people are putting it up and shutting down the account of anyone who posts it:
link to gregreese.substack.com
You are SO RIGHT, Billy.
Masses of the pound coins in circulation are FAKE too.
Make sure to remember that for your next post.
They might soon be fake. Just like the Trump & Milana crypto coin scam that only benefitted the Trumps with a few $billion in the bank. MAGA Investors = 0. A worthless coin.
Ruskies busted Americas plan to dump it’s trillions $ debt into crypto & wipe it’s debt clean by then devaluing the $. They put the word out live at an economic forum. Dag nabit, fkn Orcs! Always one step ahead of dumb Americans..Lolz…I guess that’ll be a no to crypto.
All FIAT so called money IS fake – counterfeit and created out of thin air by the Rothschild’s on behalf of the Vatican and our corrupt governments and political parties borrow that fake counterfeit NOTHING with massive interest and resulting inflation and they use all of that to keep the dumb masses in Debt SLAVERY slogging their way to keep ahead of that debt to pay for everything that they NEVER own as per that Democracy Illusion video.
Even when so called money was backed by gold it was a massive SCAM as well as the markets are rigged by these same mafias and the only thing in this reality that has real value is the energy of every man and woman.
That was what L. Frank Baum was exposing in his book The Wizard Of Oz – the Yellow Brick Road was The Gold Standard and the Strawman is the Legal Fiction (CAPITIS DIMINUTIO) or all-caps name that they have conned our parents into registering us into making us all think that we are that all-caps name and that we are LEGALLY responsible for the scam debts, scam taxes and Acts, Statutes etc of that all-caps name when we are NOT especially as everything that the Governments, Councils, Courts/Legal System, Banks etc is based on massive breaches of Trust Law and Contract Law.
There are NOT going to be any pound coins or any cash soon of any kind if they get away with their agenda that everything that is going on is a part of – why do you think that they are desperate for their digital ID and Digital Currency also created out of thin air – because it is going to also bring in their Social Credit System where they are going to tell you what you can and cannot buy and can and cannot do where they will “fine” the credits straight out of your account just like all of their SCAM taxes will be as well so no one will ever be in debt again or be able to avoid their SCAM taxes. You are NOT going to be allowed to travel more than the 15 minutes that you can get by bicycle to and from your front door and you will loose “credits” for that as well when they bring in their 15 minute cities.
To do all of that they need to keep the masses distracted, divided and fighting each other instead of them realising what is really going on and getting together to put a stop to all of this but too many people have been brainwashed into their political, religious etc cults all created and controlled by those mafias. You have also got people such as Rob who comment on social media who are either too THICK to go research the EVIDENCE for what people like me tell them or they are paid useless idiots of these mafias who haunt social media etc to steer people away from the TRUTH or demonize the people who are exposing it.
Here you go Rob and the others that are useless at CRITICAL THINKING – The TRUTH about 9/11 that the mainstream media and governments etc have been so silent about since 9/11 where the SEVEN buildings of the Twin Towers Complex were turned mostly to DUST that day by Directed Energy Weapons exposed by Dr Judy Wood who took all of her EVIDENCE all the way through the courts all the way up to The Supreme Court that she took against the US Government (NIST) and over 20 US Companies for putting out LIES re 9/11. Two of those companies were Directed Energy Weapons Manufacturers who were “helping” NIST “investigate” the “collapse” of the Twin Towers. Of course intelligent people will be questioning what collapsing buildings have to do with Directed Energy Weapons Manufacturers – Dr Judy Wood’s EVIDENCE shows that these buildings NEVER collapsed and that they turned to DUST in mid air all the way to the ground and stopped there without collapsing into the SEVEN below ground levels. Dr Judy Wood’s excellent book “Where Did The Towers Go?” totally exposes 9/11 and how much our governments and mainstream media lies to us all – you can get that book at the Richplanet TV website while that is still going just now and you can see much of her evidence including from her court cases at her site here:
link to drjudywood.com
What is the weather like on the planet you live on?
Dull and threatening..
(Ie real life).
On the other hand; you ??
camberwick trumpton had a grand day out today in tbe big smoke; estimates range from 10000 to 400000 depending on who you get your lies from.
– the trouble with “english nationalism” is it flicks, in a millisecond, into british imperialism; the union jack is a fraud on everyone, it is a corporate logo, denoting the business enterprise that empire was.
A legitimate anglo nationalism would likely be a mashup between tolkien and the novels of thomas hardy, but I don’t see much of that. Funny how these “little hobbits” all look like fucking ORCS. Fat, purple faced orc men, looking for some elven flesh.
tommy robinson is a well known issy shill, so don’t expect anything good from this.
maybe the anglos might want to know who it was that came up with the idea of “mass immigration” for all european countries … waiting … waiting …
tommy is farage’s bastard, and farage is the bastard of a bastard of hitler, who knocked up one of the mitford slags, so says the daily mail, which is never wrong about hitler, who died in argentina in 1960, at bariloche.
enoch – nigel – tommy is the anglo trinity
in other news, the rumour is the kirk shooter had a tranny “girlfriend” …
and “she” is hideous.
doing stuff to impress a “girl” can get taken to bizarre levels (hinckley and jodie foster)
“doing stuff to impress a “girl” can get taken to bizarre levels”
Enough autobiographical detail for one night, Confused.
Your standing on the wrong side of history Mr confused.
Elon Musk addresses the “unite the kingdom” march crowd via video link
Elon Musk has addressed crowd attending the “unite the kingdom” march, via video link. He spoke to march leader, far-right activist Tommy Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, over the video call.
Musk claimed that a “dissolution of parliament” and a “change of government” is needed in the UK. He said: “I really think that there’s got to be a change of government in Britain. You can’t – we don’t have another four years, or whenever the next election is, it’s too long. Something’s got to be done. There’s got to be a dissolution of parliament and a new vote held.”
Musk told the march rally: “My appeal is to British common sense, which is to look carefully around you and say ‘If this continues, what world will you be living in?’
“This is a message to the reasonable centre, the people who ordinarily wouldn’t get involved in politics, who just want to live their lives. They don’t want that, they’re quiet, they just go about their business.
“My message is to them: if this continues, that violence is going to come to you, you will have no choice. You’re in a fundamental situation here. Whether you choose violence or not, violence is coming to you. You either fight back or you die, that’s the truth, I think.”
The X owner told the crowd “the left are the party of murder”, referring to the death of Charlie Kirk. He said: “There’s so much violence on the left, with our friend Charlie Kirk getting murdered in cold blood this week and people on the left celebrating it openly. The left is the party of murder and celebrating murder. I mean, let that sink in for a minute, that’s who we’re dealing with here.”
Musk also said that the British public are “scared to exercise their free speech” and claimed the BBC was “complicit in the destruction of Britain”.
When they finished their conversation, Robinson said: “Not only are we in the fight right now, but we’re on the advance thanks to free speech being fought for, for us, by Elon Musk.”
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Bastard.
forgot the choons –
link to youtube.com
this is more like me
link to youtube.com
BEFORE KIRK MANIA BECOMES IDOLATRY it pays to remember the killer came from a christian republican background with a fetish for guns.
Oh mr President!
His name tells you everything you really need to know about his narrow-minded, parochial, Presbyterian, bigoted, hypocritical, Christianity-inspired hatreds – at least it does for Real Scots in Scotland.
Kirk.
With hindsight, it’s all so obvious.
@ Turabdin: read Leah Gunn Barrett – she reports that Amazon had a book on sale about Charles Kirk’s assassination in Utah on Sept 9th i.e. the day BEFORE he was killed.
So…
Are you claiming the assassin can read?
There’s so much more to this story than the MSM is reporting.
UPDATE: An Amazon spokesperson confirmed that the company had investigated the book in question.
“We have content guidelines governing which books can be listed for sale, and we remove books that do not adhere to these guidelines. The title in question is no longer available for sale. Due to a technical issue, the date of publication that had been displayed for this title, while it was briefly listed, was incorrect, and we apologize for any confusion this may have caused. The title was published late in the afternoon on September 10th,” an Amazon spokesperson said
sarah @ 19.45.
Kind of reminds me of the BBC presenter announcing the collapse of the Saloman building, WTC7 I believe, some 20-30 minutes before for no apparent reason it subsided just as if by virtue of a controlled demolition. Even as the announcement was being made the Tower was clearly visible through the window over the presenter’s left shoulder.
And folk believe I’m the strange one.
Sven 9:24
This claim by the conspiracy nutters has been investigated many times. It was based on a Reuters newsflash that said the building was in danger of imminent collapse and it was wrongly reported by the BBC that the building had already collapsed.
You say… “And folk believe I’m the strange one.”
YOU ARE !
It’s just the Leftist death cult in meltdown. The war has begun. We are on a road to destruction or greatness as a United Kingdom.
“We are on a road to destruction or greatness as a United Kingdom.”
LOL. Twice.
You’d better get your tinfoil hat back on.
Turabdin @ 19.09.
And yet, numerous reports are advising that his Mormon family brought him up as a Mormon and, in fact, sought counsel from office bearer(s) of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. It’s unlikely that his family would have had great theological kinship with a self professed evangelical Protestant.
Most “Evangelicals” I know would regard Mormons as being a false cult, though Mr Kirk himself had stated publicly that he had great respect for their politeness and honesty. Having a number of them on his own staff.
and another stomper comes to mind –
link to youtube.com
I think its an ironic deconstruction of laibach, with a bangin riff
farage should run it in his ads for the next genital erection he intends to cum out on top of
at the climax, tommy robinson will shave nigel’s head and wipe it down with a cow’s tongue, thus uniting the spiritual kingdom, like in days of old, in the old ways
Your mind is a bucket of pig swill. 100% loonytunes.
Thanks. I fund you – in my very modest way – for the very reasons that outline here. A commitment to robust, honest debate that tries to identify as much of the truth as possible.
Thanks so very much for keeping at it.
VIVE LA DIFFÉRENCE…..
link to thearticle.com
après tout c’est la même chose enfin!
Two ex imperialisms on the way out.
Scotland does not have to.
So it’s confirmed the bullets in the Charlie Kirk assassination did have Transgender terminology connected to Marxist death cult games.
The American Federal government sacks over 800 public servants and military personnel for posts about the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Only Yahoo has that level of reach so there ya go – there’s the shooter. They won’t tolerate dissent regardless of who’s territory they do it on.
A failing state with a failing leader just can’t have ppl from the hand that feeds them changing public opinion & failing in the polls.
Another minion on the payroll is Robinson. Sent fourth to gather fuckwits to counter protest all those nasty evil ppl who opposed the mass killing & ethnic cleansing of an entire population. Down with that sort of thing…
Ok Greta. How’s the boat after that drone attack.
The number is up to 900 staff sacked. The loonies posted themselves crying, screaming and unemployed.
“Sent fourth to gather fuckwits”
And your beef with that is what, Barbie?
Should he have been sent third?
@Mark Beggan
On the subject of Sweden’s most famous idiot child, there’s a nasty, vicious part of me that wants them to really go to town on her when they capture her a second time.
Film the whole episode too and put it out on social media for the whole world to watch.
They should strap her down in one of those metal chairs like you see in the films.
Send to TA for their top man (or woman). The best. Make sure he takes all his instruments and chemicals with him. Tell him to take it really slow, spare nothing and show ham asshole levels of mercy to his helpless, pleading victim as he works on her.
Give her a complete facial, catwalk make-up, and a thousand bucks worth of hair style. Highlights, roots, the works. Then parade her in front of the cameras. Maybe in a slightly off-the-shoulder keffiyah.
If we have to continually see her grinning, gurning, idiot physog on the news, somebody should try to improve the viewer experience a bit.
I have just sent Donald Trump a list of the names of the NHS Fife staff.
It’s an irony that Transgenders and Hamas have very different views to what a roof party is.
Mark Beggan @ 02.05.
Just stop that now, Mark, at once. It’s too early in my day to be giggling and laughing. It’s the “roof party” one which really started me off.
With the greatest respect, there is an enormous flaw in your diagram of your political position. You picture the right as staying in the same place, while the left shoots off madly into literal shooting.
Clearly, the right is not static. In 2008 it was all ecofriendly David Cameron, hug a husky, while now, the Conservative party has imploded, racism is mainstream and the extreme is focussed on burning down hostels, overthrowing parliaments. Immigrants have caused all our problems, and now that’s done they’re moving on to black people in general.
If you want to keep the NHS, think water & electricity should be nationalised, then you are well to the left of the Labour party. If you think governments should try and improve people’s lives then you are a nutty hard-lefter.
The gender stuff is, how should you say, a bit weird? How did that happen? Clearly it’s a boon for the war on woke. But the feminists who opposed it from the beginning are not right wing, so disagreeing with it doesn’t automatically make you a white-power flag waver. So, strange times, but judging from your non-gender posts you are still most likely to the left. You can breathe with relief, it’s just that the world is falling apart around you.
I had did one of those AI Chatbot queries about the difference between politics in the 90s and now.
It said that the dividing lines between left and right were more clearer and politics overall were a lot less divisive. The other thing mentioned was that Blairism and New Democrat Neo-liberalism reigned supreme throughout that 90’s.
The fault lines were always there. The problem that now social media has given a voice both to those who were disenfranchised by the political process in the 90’s and a whole new generation of people who haven’t got a clue because they have lived their whole lives on social media, no matter how weird or perverse it is, and have their worldview shaped by it.
I don’t think there is a left or right any more in the traditional sense but a more fragmented one which is dependent on a number of viewpoints that each would have been individually seen as being on the left or right in the past.
It is a case of supporting separate issues that you feel strongly about regardless of whether it is left or right. This is the state of politics now and the idea of supporting monolithic blocks that is somehow going to change society for what you see as the better is now a thing of the past?
THE BRITISH, COLONIALISM, SEX AND GOSSIP AND PREJUDICE.
link to en.wikipedia.org
English translation of passage from Gaelic biography of Sir Hector MacKenzie [Eachunn Nan Cath], Gaelic-speaker from the Black Isle near Dingwall —
[« KABUL TO KANDAHAR 1880 – Who, then, had the victory in this war? The Afghans? The British? The Afghans were repulsed on the battlefields. No doubt about that. Many thousands of their best fighters were killed in the war over the two years. But on the other hand the only gain of the war was the replacement of one puppet-ruler with another.
One thing for sure, though; it wasn’t the English who won it! Under a commander from Ireland, many battles were won by two Highland regiments, by Gurkhas, and by Sikhs. And without the Scots, the calamity might well have surpassed that of Maiwand.
Indeed, throughout the war the Gordons and Seaforths were in competition with the Gurkhas and Sikhs as to who would be first to engage the enemy. But, in London, the triumphal boast was of the victory and advance of General Roberts and the ‘English’ Army! »]
« KABUL TO KANDAHAR 1880 – Có, mar sin, aig an robh a’ bhuaidh sa chogadh seo? Na h-Afganaich? Na Breatannaich? Chaidh na h-Afganaich a ruaig air na raoin-chatha. Chan eil teagamh sam bith air sin. Chaidh mòran mhìltean dhe na fir-shabaid a b’fhearr a bh’aca mharbhadh anns a’ chogadh fad an dà bhliadhna. Ach, air an taobh eile, cha robh crìoch sam bith air a’ chogadh sin ach gun do chuir e aon liùdhag riaghladair ann an àite liùdhag eile.
Tha aon rud cinnteach, co-dhiù; cha robh a’ bhuaidh leis na Sasannaich! Fo cheannard às Eirinn, ’s ann le dà rèiseamaid Ghàidhealach, leis na Gurkhas agus na Sikhs, bha a’ bhuaidh an aghaidh nan Afganach ann am mòran chatha. Agus, as eugmhais nan Albannach, nan Gurkhas agus nan Sikhs, math dh’fhaoite, bha truaighe air a bhith ann a bheireadh bàrr air Maiwand.
Gu dearbh, fad a’ chogaidh bha na Gòrdanaich agus na Sìophortaich air an dara taobh, na Gurkhas agus na Sikhs air an taobh eile a sparradh càch-a-chèile feuch cò a bhiodh air thoiseach a’ dol am badaibh an nàmhaid. Ach, ann an Lunnainn, bha buaidh-chaithream agus glòir iongantach aca man bhuaidh agus man cheumach a rinn an Seanailear Roberts agus an t-Arm “Sasannach!” »
(‘EACHANN NAN CATH: Eachdraidh-beatha An Ridire Eachann MacDhòmhnaill’, by Ailean Friseal, GAIRM, Glaschu, 1979, ISBN 901771 62 7)
link to gaelicbooks.org
The three regiments of the British army the Waffen SS feared the most
The Scots, The Gurkhas and the The Sikhs.
Fergus McFinlay 1:55
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SPAM? Certainly many Scots soldiers historically perished via ‘MEAT-GRINDER’ deployment.
To me the single most cataclysmic consequence of the 1707 Union with England was not the unbearable elimination of our international State as such, but the dooming of our manhood to the whim of perpetual (recent enemy) English command, which could mean being cynically used as cannon-fodder. How many Scots, particularly Gaels, did not speak the language in which commands were shouted at them?
All of course succinctly encapsulated in those immortal words of JAMES WOLFE:
« James Wolfe (1727-59), while serving with the 20th Regiment in Scotland, in a letter to Captain William Rickson, dated June 9, 1751, revealed his reasons for considering the formation of new Highland regiments, which are not wholly flattering to the Highlanders. “I should imagine,” wrote Wolfe, referring to Rickson’s duties in Nova Scotia, “that two or three independent Highland companies might be of use; they are hardy, intrepid, accustomed to a rough country, and no great mischief if they fall. How can you better employ a secret enemy than by making his end conducive to the common good? If this sentiment should take wind,” he justly concludes, “what an execrable and bloody being should I be considered here in the midst of Popery and Jacobitism!” » [‘James Wolfe: Man and Soldier’ by W.T. Waugh, M.A., Kingsford Professor of History, McGill University (Montreal, New York: Louis Carrier & Co., 1928) p. 101]
Cf also THE SHOCK TROOPS OF THE EMPIRE (Jim Cornelius blog)
« The number of Highland Scots in the British Army in North America during the French and Indian War was significant — about a quarter of the force and a third of the officer corps. And they took a wildly disproportionate number of casualties. The Army’s casualty rate was 9 percent; the Highland Regiments 32 percent. » (Jim Cornelius in 2021 article ‘The Shock Troops Of The Empire’ on his ‘Frontier Partisans’ website.)
And cf more recently the highly authoritative words of SIR TOM DEVINE re SCOTTISH LOSSES IN WW1 —
“Of the 157 battalions which comprised the British Expeditionary Force, 22 were Scottish regiments […] The human losses were enormous and unprecedented. Of the 557,000 Scots who enlisted in all services, 26.4 percent lost their lives. This compares with an average death rate of 11.8 percent for the rest of the British army between 1914 and 1918. Of all the combatant nations, only the Serbs and the Turks had higher per capita mortality rates, but this was primarily because of disease in the trenches rather than a direct result of losses in battle. The main reason for the higher-than-average casualties among the Scottish soldiers was that they were regarded as excellent, aggressive shock troops who could be depended upon to lead the line in the first hours of battle.” — (T.M.Devine, ‘The Scottish Nation 1700-2000’).
Fergus McFinlay 7:10
Yet another load of irrelevant cut-and-paste SPAM !
What exactly are you inside of?
@Fearghas MacFhionnlaigh
It’s precisely because I know and honour the martial prowess of the Scottish generations that came before us that I have no hesitation in stating that they would have had nothing but the deepest contempt for the ham assholes.
So called “men” who cower in holes behind terrified lassies or live it up in the fleshpots abroad with stolen money while their own women and kids die in their tens of thousands.
Our fighting ancestors wouldn’t have dishonoured their own spit on these yellow scum.
I fear you are right. The best of us were slain or left for pastures new. Ask any farming family how their herd fares if from every generation, the strongest, fittest and bravest are culled, leaving only the weak and craven.
Ricky Hatton, 46, found dead at home in Manchester.
Oh shit – that’s a shame, I followed his whole career.
RIP Ricky.
“When you hear people talk about the special relationship between America and Great Britain, this is the special relationship that you’re seeing here. It’s not between our governments. Does anyone think David Lammy or Keir Starmer have got a special relationship with America?
They hate America. They hate everything it represents. They hate freedom. Keir Starmer dared to make a Twitter post about the murder of Charlie Kirk. If Charlie Kirk lived in this country, he’d have been imprisoned for some of the things he said.”
Donald Trump.
So why all the sackings of public servants then? I thought there was freedom of speech in the good old USA? Freedom of speech means the freedom to say things that others find repugnant. That’s what freedom of speech is.
Freedom of speech? Have you been hiding under a rock or have you just not noticed what’s happening in your own country.
The endless invocation of freedom of speech by the right is blatantly hypocritical, as has been proven again and again.
Want to go to the States but have posted heavily critical stuff about Trump and his ilk on social media? Probably forget it. Arrest those campaigning in favour of Palestine on campuses, especially if foreign students, and threaten the university administrations with financial sanctions if they allow it? Tick. Don’t like what some journalists write about Trump? Ban whole organisations from the White House. Tick. Sick of these pesky woke lawyers? Target law firms associated with supporting Democrats and strip them of security clearance. Tick. Try to revoke licences of TV stations seen as critical of Trump? Yep, tick. And so on. Ditto the idea that most politically-motivated murder in the States is done by extreme leftists, a blatant lie, since the reverse is provably true.
Kirk approved of guns and thought murderous gun violence, (inevitably meaning even in schools and colleges), was an acceptable negative when set against an American’s inalienable right to bear arms (this is actually an honest assessment, but also shows an underlying, unrecognised collective social madness). His killer was one of those acceptable negatives who clearly knew very well how to shoot, presumably through long hours of practice. I do not approve for a second what he did, quite the contrary, nor are there any ‘excuses’, but to deny that words and beliefs, endlessly promulgated (and bolstered and powerfully lobbied for by big money, the NRA etc), do not form part of a cultural landscape that made someone like him do what he did, is naive.
And what is interesting about the gun culture we now see in the US is that it did not really get going until the late 1980s when the NRA (originally a lobbying wing of the gun manufacturing sector) reacted against increasing gun control (by Democrat and Republican regimes) by taking an absolutist stand against any regulation, began using the Second amendment as a shibboleth to make private gun ownership a moral crusade and making it a cause célèbre of the hard right, bellowing ‘freedom’ as every bullet hit home. From the 90s, An ‘unholy’ right wing alliance evolved consisting of the rich wanting taxes cut, fundamentalist Christians wanting an armed theocracy, and racists who fear anyone who looks different; they use that fear to justify acquiring combat-calibre firearms to defend their ‘freedoms and liberties.’ This is the world Kirk sat squarely and approvingly in the middle of.
And tangentially but related, do you know when a Court finally ruled that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual’s right to own a gun? 2008 in District of Columbia v. Heller: the Supreme Court handed down a landmark decision that held that the amendment protects an individual’s right to keep a gun for self-defence.
Quotation marks? Who made that quote?
The President of the United States of America.
When they talk about “special relationship” they’re referring to their vassal state with fake affection.
A bit like when the English love bomb Scotland cause they come their holidays sometimes when in reality they’d happily exterminate every Scot alive.
The yanks don’t like the Brits. They celebrate them being booted every 4th of July just so future generations don’t forget.
Keep yer enemies closer is all that special relationship is because the British have an uncanny habit of getting where shit wouldn’t when it comes to intel, blackmail & entrapment – their specialist subjects.
Is the Scottish government fake?
“in reality they’d happily exterminate every Scot alive”
Soft southern p00fters. Real hard men would exterminate every dead Scot too.
Haud oan though. Couldn’t they use something like your mobile gas chambers, the ones you were rhapsodising not that long ago about using on people who disagree with you, to good effect, Barbie?
Hows that coming along then? You’ve gone awfy quiet lately? Did some big bonced boy tell you it doesn’t pay to announce your wet dreams in advance?
He sounds like a smart boy. Ask big boncy to explain “rhapsodising” to you as well.
‘In the world of DEI everyone is equal but some are more equal than others.’
We thought the Furries were just kids having fun! Think again. Sex and Leftist doctrine is destroying the very fabric of our culture.
The National Internet Intelligence Team. Coming to a page your probably on. Big Brother is watching you.
I doubt freedom of speech has EVER been a thing in the (fake) democracy that is the UK – however that (fake) bastion of freedom the good old USA regards itself as a nation that upholds freedom of speech. The shooting of Kirk AND the mass sackings of those who have celebrated his death suggests that freedom of speech is dead in BOTH nations.
So what’s the alternative Marie. What would be genuine for you as opposed to fake. What route do we go to escape the fake. In this country a comedian is arrested by five armed police officers for protesting against Trans insanity. Where do you draw the line on freedom.
Anent freedom of speech.
link to murrayblackburnmackenzie.org
In London on Saturday out of the hundreds of thousands of demonstrators the only people wearing masks were the Anti Fascist demonstrators.
What’s the alternative you ask? Well you could start by NOT sacking people who dare to express an opinion (even one expressed in repugnant language) that those in power deem unacceptable.
If you work for a public body the Tax payer does not pay you for your sentiment,opinion or emotional outburst.
“dare to express an opinion (even one expressed in repugnant language)”
Hark at the child. Nobody quicker to jump on a poster who writes something she disagrees with.
Not to debate or post a counter argument. But just to virtue signal her self-identified moral superiority.
Deflate your mega-sized cognitive dissonance, hen. Satellites monitoring wild animal populations are going to think there’s an elephant loose in Scotland.
I guess when a comedian gets arrested by five armed police officers in this country and either no one knows, or those who do know are too scared of the consequences to mention it, we’re even further over freedom line.
As long as the newspapers can scream the news on their front page, the comedian can give TV interviews presenting his side and we can crowdfund his legal defence through the Free Speech Union we’re maybe not yet totally over that indeterminite freedom line.
The comedian gave his comments to On Line TV and his case was presented. If you can find one MP who spoke or debated this then that would be interesting. The MSM were obliged to report it nothing else.
Is focusing your sexual energy into a political ideology progressive or are you on the road to hell.?
McAlpine see’s the problem
link to robinmcalpine.org
“The global debate over the rise in political violence is peaking once again with another shocking political assassination in the US. Unfortunately, much of the debate is focussed on personal behaviour when it should be focussed on what is driving personal behaviour.
Large numbers of citizens don’t become furious at the same time as a result of some biological or physical factor. When you get rapid behavioural change seen across a society, that strongly suggests and environmental factor.
Because this isn’t just about politics; while politicians have a louder voice than most and so that is often the focus of the debate, teachers, police, hospitality workers, public transport staff – reports of increasing aggression, violence and volatile behaviour are witnessed right across society. This is not just about politics.
In fact there is an awful lot of compelling data that suggests that the rapid change in social behaviour coincides with a sharp drop in mental health – and both of those correlate closely with the rise of social media.
It is therefore easy to assume that this is a result of a kind of behaviour that we have developed when we go on social media platforms. That is not even nearly a sufficient explanation. There were plenty of online forums prior to algorithmically-driven social media and those did not, of themselves, descend into anger and bad behaviour.
The key is the development of the algorithm, and that in turn is an outcome of the rise of the attention economy, which in turn is a result of the rise in individualised capitalism. Increasingly it is in the interests of sellers to have us isolated, fragmented and in an direct relationship not with our friends but with online activity that generates commercial gain.
That can just mean lonely people staying at home and over-consuming to make themselves feel better. It can mean influencer culture with people selling an ideal of a life you are unlikely to achieve and which is, in any case, almost always illusory in the first place. It can mean keeping you addicted to screens to maximise the amount of advertising you see.”
The UK government is seeking to curtail free speech through the UK age verification bill which has gone beyond stopping children from viewing porn.
As tempting as it is to reduce the influence of social media to ensure a more cohesive and politically tolerant society, social media can have a place in political discourse, albeit in a more suitable format.
Part of Trump election win was due to him doing a 3 hour podcast with Joe Rogan which his opponent failed to do. Akin to an interview, it’s length allows political figures to not only fully put forward their views but also allows people to see the actual person through the shallow sound bites and staged media appearances that politicians enjoy through traditional media.
Would the likes of Nicola Sturgeon’s have enjoyed continued electoral success and popularity if she had to regularly partake in such interviews. Would the rise of Transgender ideology have gained such spectacular rise in prominence if those advocating it were subject to such rigorous examination?
Of course blogs like Wings over Scotland plays a part in social media and political debate as well.
If the power of Twitter/X and Reddit who cater to both the extremes of the left and right were curtailed then would we be living in such a divisive society now?
but wouldn’t it be better if political activists actually went out and held meetings in person to groups rather than just continually typing 2 or 3 sentences on social media platforms or carefully staged media appearances on TV?
If you acknowledge that Covid was a genetically modified organism – engineered in the lab in Wuhan – and few now question that assessment, you are empowered to ask the next question.
Engineered to do what?
It’s likely significant that in all the world, only one country made a deadly serious attempt to reach Zero Covid. They adopted ever more stringent and autocratic measures for an entire year, at enormous cost to their economy and their people, vainly trying to totally eliminate Covid within their borders.
And they were the ones who, knowing most about the monster they had made, were best placed to know what it really does. What were they so frightened of?
Here we all sit, trying to make sense of all the frankly insane beliefs and behaviours we see all around us. Never, ever wondering if the highly infectious cause of the most momentous event of the twenty first century might actually be to blame.
Most of the time, in fact, thinking, talking and acting as if Covid had never happened at all.
?
The whole Covid thing reminded me of that TV series ‘Utopia’, where an epidemic of a so called ‘Russian Flu’ was used to hoodwink pretty much everyone in the world to queue up to be vaccinated. Problem was, the vaccine made you sterile, which was a great way to reduce the world’s population.
If you haven’t seen it, I think it’s still out there on utube. It was very good indeed. And very violent.
I wonder how some of the anger here might change if it turns out that Kirk’s killer was in fact a far right ‘Groyper’ follower of Nick Fuentes, as some evidence is now pointing to e.g. all those memes engraved on the weaponry actually being code used by Groypers playing video games that deliberately apes progressives to sow confusion about their beliefs, something they do on a regular basis? Nothing is clear at this stage but the waters are more murky than is being made out.
The killers Trans boyfriend might just tip the scales.
If that proves to be true, yes, probably. Trouble is, all is rumour to date.
Even if he wasn’t romantically involved with the Trans person in question, it’s possible that Kirk’s killer could have been a Trans ally?
IIRC, Groyper is linked to 4Chan which I believe was the foundation of the whole modern Transgender movement.
I’m sure I read somewhere that the far right wingers on 4Chan took the then fringe Transgender movement and made it bigger than it was which the Progressive movement stupidly championed as another repressed minority.
Of course this is just an unsubstantiated rumour but given how weird, wonderful and downright crazy 4Chan is, it could be true.
Trump is now targeting students and the poisonous Universities who are at the heart of Lefty Cult Politics. Is the line being pushed too far or is it blurred in the fight between left and right all over the world.
Naw. He’s been going after them a while.
First he came for the anti genocide students. Yahoo got him telt to start cracking skulls cause apparently being anti genocide is antisemitic – so they went in all gung-ho & even attacked innocent passers by just on their way to work LOL!
Then he came for the Chinese students cause, y’know, the Chinese stole education from dumb Americans along with everything else, so they had to go & be deported – but the Unis slapped him down cause they’re actually paying a fortune to be there & they’re keeping them afloat..so he’s leaving them alone now. The Chinese are now nice ppl & he gets along with them tremendously. They have a great friendship. This’d never have happened if he was president – when he wasn’t -cause, y’know, that was stolen from him too.
So he’ll be back to the anti genocide students now cause Yahoo is upset he’s tanking in the polls & it’s that age group that’s upsetting him. TRAs will be collateral damage. No one cares. Two birds with one stone.
That’s great news, Barbie.
Once he’s finished with the groups you mention he can come for you.
BTW. Have a word with your handlers. The time zone difference is kinda too obvious. See if they won’t stretch to paying you to work a different shift.
Declining empire lashing out at anyone and everyone
some fud was moaning about “history” last week, then it was casually explained to him why history matters …
– history repeats yada yada yada … tragedy … farce
the anglo deep state/ ultra right establishment faction has carefully crafted its messiah (after decades of failure with the NF, the BNP) – a mashup of mosley and powell, but tuned for the sensitivity of middle england; this is your english hitler
oor nige, the Farage
– now who is tommeh bobbinsonson – well he is like the “ernst rohm” of the movement; he controlled the street thugs.
the problem for the nazi party at the time was the strength of the communists (BAME Woke alliance) in Berlin (London) and they had to beat them; Goebbels did the propaganda, Rohm and the brownshirts, the street fighting. That a communist takeover of Germany at the time was possible, is forgotten.
as a sidenote, rohm was a bummer and tried to turn the nazi party into a gay fucking club. See “night of the long knives”.
Farage “goebbels” consists of the mail, the telegraph and the BBC.
Starmer and Labour are the weimar government, weak and universally despised, barely capable of tying their own shoelaces on a good day.
Unfortunately the plan of Farage is not to free this country from the tyranny of international banking and revitalise it via a radical social program, but just to “make things worse, faster” i.e. neoliberalism on steroids; I do not think he is all that concerned about the brown invasion either, as long as they are here “legally” (they work for peanuts, these lads). The program could be a re run of the Thatcherite “year zero”, but worse.
– this is the thing about politics, no matter how bad things are, they can always get worse in some way.
Farage is not the answer to any question; he is a pied piper, and it looks like most of the dumb fucking english will fall for it.
Yet another argument for indy; indy, razor wire and gun turrets, that is all we need, then we can spend our days rebuilding the country without interference and counting our money.
Our democracy is like a computer system that has been hacked – it is in the control of others (our hackers are an oligarchy), so you don’t get representation, and a largely pointless contest between the colour of rosette (all the real policies are already agreed upon, you are only choosing the implementor) – so it is no wonder the youth move away from the idea. “3 cheeks of the same arse” – “one party with 2 right wings”. As Hudson points out, when an oligarchy is in charge (the worst political system) you need the power of a “tyrant”, “a king”, a “strongman”, to break their power using the full force of the state. Trouble is though, if the strongman is working for the oligarchs, it is simply yet another deception; you have been had, all over again. Trump said he wanted to “drain the swamp” – the US has RICO laws and with them he could go after the whole of wall st, silicon valley, the oil industry – but he won’t, because he is one of them, a new york slumlord and socialite who via a massive ego and dumb luck becomes a media star, then prez. Farage is, of course, worse.
the political debate in the UK is between middle class anglos who read the guardian “Versus” middle class anglos who read the telegraph, on marginal issues; both sides of the rizla paper, and all the way from A to B. But all the money shall flow to the south east and whatever happens we keep our hands clean. (Some folk think MI6 run the guardian and MI5 run the telegraph – and that is the size of the political debate you are allowed.)
“turned out nice again … trebles all round … ”
meanwhile, at Cirith Ungol …
link to boards.4chan.org
(click on the pic)
Aye, when Oigarchs are in charge, Fascism follows. A tale as old as time. The moment Trump stepped out with them all in tow on inauguration day the game was up.
Trump is just another puppet. I heard the other day that the US government is buying up shares in these corporations & also taking a cut of exports so the chances of him taking them on is zero. They also bankrolled his election & the few million he accepted will secure the genocide continuing too.
A few workers complained about working conditions in some factory (I think it was cars) so he sent in ICE to sort them out. Brown shirts at the ready it seems.
As for frog face, well that’s a given. He won’t even disclose who his donors are but we can all guess since those lovely lads over at EDL changed their name.
Just an update..
It was the Hyundai plant. Over 300 ppl shackled like criminals.
Mainly South Koreans sent over there to MAGA by teaching Americans a highly skilled job after Hyundai invested millions making the factory.
Cuffed & loaded onto flights FFS.
& The offer Japan & the EU have been offered is absolutely nuts. Give us all yer money, build factories & stuff for us & move yer manufacturing & skilled workforce & we’ll pay you back once we show a profit – which we never will cause we’ll fiddle the books that it’s just always breaking even.. P.S – stop buying goods from China & India IMMEDIATELY – THANKS FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER. DONALD TRUMP, HEAD RACKETEER!!
Jeez. They better hop on over to BRICS, pronto.
“Farage is not the answer to any question”
Perhaps not, yet he’s the answer it looks like we’re all going to get.
Tell is true, Confused. Do you and the rest of the pro-Indy loonies and nutters ever regret the opportunities you wasted? The eleven years since the Referendum when you could all have worked hard to present a plausible alternative to Scotland’s electorate? The pointless ideological bickering? The zealotry that empowered you to piss off everybody that could have helped build the necessary majority for Indy? The eternal gurning and “poor victim me” whining?
That’ll be a rhetorical set of questions, because clearly the answer is no.
“as a sidenote, rohm was a bummer”
Are you sure? About it being a side note I mean? Cos every one of you pro-Indy loonies and nutters is obsessed with sex, and perversion in particular.
From our former FM, right down to the low lives posting interminably on here about genitals and shirt lifting.
It never stops.
What place, if any, does the Rev take in your above post?
“Prick”.
@ James says: 15 September, 2025 at 1:21 pm
“Prick”.
In response to:
“every one of you pro-Indy loonies and nutters is obsessed with sex, and perversion in particular.
From our former FM, right down to the low lives posting interminably on here about genitals”
But we should all commend his unspoken honesty. He no longer even goes through the tired motions of trying to persuade us he sees any hope for Indy before he pops his stained clogs.
Maybe he learned the virtue of accepting that which he is powerless to do anything about in Nanking.
Look on the bright side, at least you’re clearly not a vampire..
Oi,
“every one of you pro-Indy loonies and nutters is obsessed with sex, and perversion in particular.”
That’s rich coming from you eh? You have an unhealthy obsession over my particulars on a regular basis.
You’re projecting again, Prick.
@ Barbie says: 15 September, 2025 at 2:47 pm
“You’re projecting again, Prick”
Oh Barbie, if you didn’t already exist, surely somebody would have to invent you. You lighten my life, you really do.
Only a congenital fuckwit or a genius could post a classic like that one. If you were never on the stage, Scotland and perhaps even the world missed out on a natural. Perhaps what our French allies call an idiot savant.
Sure, I’m projecting, and how. Long may it last. I’d tell you the awesome details but I’m worried you’d be scared. I’m certain you could never take it all in.
Howzatt? 🙂
It’s a new week so in a triumph of hope over experience, I’ll try to kick things off with a link to a serious and credible article on where we in Scotland are headed:
link to unherd.com
The trick for Indy will be to engage with this emerging reality and use it as the foundations for a plausible set of policies that could earn majority support for Scotland to leave the rUK.
Given Indy’s inability to engage with the old reality and develop any plausible, majority-popular policies founded on that, I won’t be holding my breath.
But as I wrote, it’s a new week so in a triumph of hope over experience, I’ll try to have faith for as long as I can.
I have raised the Saltire in my front garden. This is my flag. The flag of my country. Iam proud of being Scottish in a Union of Kingdoms. A Christian country under Jesus our Lord. This flag will fly until our country is restored to its rightful place as God intended.
It’s rightful place, as God intended, is independent. He even saw fit to declare “let me ppl go”
Not an abomination in a one sided Union being shafted daily.
You may as well fly the Jack. “I love being subordinated, me”
Yer not Scottish . You’re a Brit hat.
& The UK inst a Christian country. They’ve done everything in their power to remove it, persecute it & demean those who practice it. The last acceptable prejudice. They lost their shit when Blair was gonnie convert & just look at the shit Freeport Kate received from the (foreign owned) media infesting this country.
Jesus won’t be happy either at all the bloodshed, famine & geno-cides the UK happily partakes in – not to mention the kiddie fiddling & abuse of dead animals.
Naw, auld Nick is the UKs god. He’s currently burning Maggie & her minions on an hourly basis & giving them a good hot poker rogering LOL..
‘He even saw fit to declare “let me ppl go”’
Wow, Barbie’s god speaks estuary English.
That’s, like, just so cool.
If a God of light and love ever existed then he is long dead.
Someone, some “thing” now sits in his place.
(Courtesy of Vincent Price)
Correct Geri – it’s the Butchers Apron that Beggan worships.
Satan was given dominion over the world. Cast out along with Adam & Eve. He sent a redeemer to demonstrate there was nothing to fear in death. Those who eat the body of Christ & drink his blood shall never die.
Christian fundamentalists think he’s coming next week, around tea time, & he’ll just pardon all the shit they’ve done. Even tho he gave them only ten rules to live by.
Plastic Christians were the bain of Christ. Even he told them to do one. Along with all the fake dews who turned his temple into a den of thieves & scattered them. Dews think he didn’t really mean it when the prophets told them they’d never have the promised land & they’d never have the temple either cause they’re anti social & were given a lifetime ASBO. So they’ve rebranded into Zzzs & trying a comeback. With more land this time, they’re no daft eh? LOL!
Meanwhile, in “Christian UK” His holy churches are strewn with LGBTQWERTY++++ flegs with purple haired female clergy preaching to the world God made a mistake, he didn’t make male & female at all, but a mashup of both, or none at all, & sometimes he made a mess of things & gave ppl the wrong body too. It’s scientific doncha know? Amniotic fluid didn’t wash some ppl right in the head before birth, or something – They all cheered & went for a pint & an orgy on Grindr later. Praise be!
Also, in “Christian UK” they’re rounding up & drowning immigrants fleeing persecution – completely forgetting Jesus was a refugee too. But it’s okay, he was white, magical feelz turned him white even tho he was born in the middle east…
Aye, Christian UK doesn’t sound very Christian when you think about it…
“they’re rounding up & drowning immigrants fleeing persecution”
It’s called baptism, Barbs.
They must be daeing it wrang in yoor kirk.
Still, it could explain a lot. Hoo lang did they hold ye under watter when it was yoor go? Any mair than a meenit an the brain damage is irreversible.
Yer all Hypocrites.
Running behind a religion you probably don’t even practice. Ever. Just cause – brown ppl.
All those poor wee children the Empire has killed, starved, maimed or tortured. Whosoever harms a wee hair on their heid will suffer eternal damnation eh? Aye, He doesn’t mean us tho…were supreme.
Then there’s the “before you were born I knew you” As all the Christian proddy fundamundalies run off for an abortion. They’re just a bunch of cells. They’re not alive – even tho it’s already morphing & forming. Maybe one of them was the 2nd coming & they missed the entire show..lol
Then assisted dying – jeez.
Then there’s the so called Christians shouting abuse at refugees & immigrants, forgetting Jesus, Mary & Joseph were refugees & Joseph was a hard worker making furniture LOL
Then there’s the rich man & the eye of a needle.
Then there’s you, Hatey. First remove the entire forest fae yer eyes & those without sin cast the first stone.
Christian country, my arse. If there is a God he’s laughing cause now you all have a population problem.
Best music vid (& Lyrics) ever was “Bombs” by Faithless. A montage of mans inhumanity to man by the Satanic Nation who is delusional enough to think God actually blesses them. They kill from the womb to the grave. It was banned, obviously. Wee sensitive souls don’t like reminded their shit stinks & are responsible for the millions they’ve killed for greed.
Just be honest & admit it. It’s actually a mortal sin to lie before God doncha know? & Purgatory is only for ppl who are good & lived a saintly life. It’s a childhood myth you’all can just be forgiven later..
Geri @ 10.05pm
Interesting snippet..
A recent research based on period remains around Golgotha funerary chambers of the general period with somewhat “familiar” family names, upon DNA analysis came to the conclusion that Jesus H Christ et al were probably of Druze stock!
Oh my days!
Hahahahahaha. 🙂
That’ll have the western pearl clutchers and Brown people bombing Hebes in a quandry.
And when you consider all these dagger drawn “Abrahamic” religions come from the same source then you have to consider is it really worth bothering about or are you a full blown zealot who seeks ethnic cleansing in that (relatively speaking) small piece of real estate in the eastern Mediterranean that still acts out the Muslim wave and the Crusades followed by British Imperial partition before quitting the zone and the sh1t state they left in their wake?
Answers on the back of a sealed down envelope..
“All those poor wee children the Empire has killed, starved, maimed or tortured”
Aw, Barbie, I’m sure we’d all love to take you seriously. Maybe even take oor tiny violin oot its box and tune it up.
But then we remember you posting that a feigned concern for kiddies is the protective colouration of the nonce.
Too bad, eh?
For anyone interested, I have online an extensive article pondering such matters from a Christian philosophical perspective here:
‘HERMAN DOOYEWEERD: REACTIONARY & PROGRESSIVE NATIONAL NORMS’
link to gobha-uisge.blogspot.com
All gods are man-made and the nation state is a fake god – even Bonnie Scotland.
ON Topic
Rev, it is sad to read how you are feeling. The strain that you have been living under for years due to the real attacks on you for just speaking the truth – the police, Dugdale’s libel, Lynsey Watson etc etc etc – is awful.
You are campaigning to oust the SNP because the SNP politicians are not capable of governing, nor have the wish, in some cases, or backbone, to get Scotland out of the Union.
The same applies to the other parties which have parliamentary seats currently [other than Alba].
So the problem boils down to our political system. We need more capable and more principled people in parliament. AND we need those politicians to be subject to our veto at all times. No more waiting 4 or 5 years to have a very slim chance of changing them and of undoing the harm they have done.
Perhaps, Rev, if you can bear it, you could do a Wee Blue Book on the d’Hondt voting system AND include some information about direct democracy – the current example[s?], as well as the principles underlying the Scottish constitution [Claim of Right, the Common Good etc] which are a huge improvement on what we currently have.
I am sure that such a book would find willing hands to deliver and minds to appreciate the message. It could make all the difference in May 2026.
Of course, it would help if your message explained the Liberate Scotland umbrella group, so that people know where to look for capable and principled candidates. Their people are standing in order to achieve Outcomes, not Incomes. A refreshing change.
Sarah @ 12.17.
“Outcomes not Incomes.”
A fine, honest declaration of intent under which to rally for the 2026 Scottish elections.
I see. Sounds like these people, if elected, will be working for free.
Perhaps, to avoid the inevitable bureaucratic muddle that always arises when an organisation like ScotGov tries to make exceptions in its payroll management programme, they will donate their salaries, expenses and pension perks to charity.
We should ask them to tell us the charities they intend to nominate before we vote. That might bring a few more votes their way – enough to get them into power.
MCALPINE’S MONSTER IS THE ALGORITHM.
Western society, in particular the American/English speaking, is becoming indivualized, infantilized and emotionally feminized through global reach social media. The narcissism of such mediums breed islolation and foster paranoia which the orwellian «SocMed» feeds off.
When people turn to so called «AI» in order to find a «friend» things are bad.
A trigger warning culture doed not make for a mentally healthy society.
Being born into a society in which war and terrorism were almost normative and losing thereby relatives and friends at a tender age has given me a mental strength which i note is lacking among my contemporaries who seem rather narcissistic and oversensitized to the potential shocks of a world where niceness and safety have always been in short supply.
The fetish for totalitarian and authoritarian systems which supposedly provide safety to the citizen from the nasties seems to be gathering adherents. The EasyFixer-Fuehrers are everywhere hawking their sickly brands of political candy.
Such sweetmeats inevitably finish with the rancid taste of deadmeat.
Do not blame algorithms, first encountered in the mathematics of ancient Mesopotamia a part of my ancestral land, the step by step logic process you encounter in following a cake recipe or using a journey planner on SatNav.
If the instruction sets should misbehave it is human agency doing the instructing. Abuse in social media began with Facebook and the like, well before deep learning AI was around.
@ Sven at 1.11: Not only are the Liberate Scotland grouping standing for “Outcomes, not Incomes”, they are also standing for “Independence, Nothing Less” and “Independence, Nothing Else”.
Sounds good to me.
Phew!
That clarifies the vexing EU membership question.
Haha, I do like my wee jokes 🙂
Aye, Sarah. I am hoping they can field a good number of candidates.
For out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.
And he shall judge amongst the nation, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
I stopped reading scribblings from the Bronze Age when I left childhood.
“left childhood” OK.
An interesting point. The biblical writings are connected to the fall of the bronze age and the word of God coming from mount Zion.
“I stopped reading scribblings from the Bronze Age when I left childhood”
I doubt you ever read any scribblings from the Bronze Age, ever.
Maybe some translations somebody else had rendered into English for you. Maybe accurately, maybe not – how would you ever know?
As for your claim to have left childhood, from the evidence of your posts on here, that’s defo up for debate.
Still, you think you know it all, eh Marie? And that’s all you need.
“The world stone skimming championships have been rocked by a cheating scandal, after several competitors were disqualified for tampering.
More than 2,200 people, from 27 countries, attended this year’s event on the tiny island of Easdale off the west coast of Scotland.
Rules state that stones must come from naturally occurring island slate, however some were found to have been ground into a “suspiciously circular” shape to help them bounce on water.
Organiser Dr Kyle Mathews told BBC News that the offenders had “held their hands up” and apologised.”
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Bastards – what on Earth is the World coming to……?
Any news from the world milk skimming championships?
If I recall correctly, they’re held on Cheasdale.
The ME culture. The lack of responsibility for your actions. The scream and rant when you don’t get your own way. The self gratification at any cost. That’s what’s wrong.
link to robinmcalpine.org
“Unpicking the lock of the British state will take some wit, some guile, some smarts and some creativity. But the stuff that takes wit and guile always relies on solid preparation. That’s what we haven’t done.”
Ach, maybe if so many folk stopped sitting on their arse typing and churning out a seemingly endless stream of blogs, and instead had actually looked around the “indy” movement, they might have spotted and supported ideas and initiatives that they could have supported and built into something.
Now to be fair to Robin, he does produce some very good analysis, but I’m rather disappointed that there’s maybe just too much time spent on too wide an array of subjects, and not enough focus on effecting real change.
No one person can deliver everything, that’s just never going to happen; So more effort really does need to be put towards viable initiatives.
The more practically minded people already know that proper planning prevents piss poor performance, just waiting on the academically minded and chattering class actually realising this is the issue.
Folk can yak away all they want, but unless there are folk on the ground able to even begin to support and deliver some of what has been yaked about out over the years, yak is all it will ever amount to.
The grassroots are gone. They will not be back.
‘CHARLIE KIRK and the apocalyptic narcissism of trans’
by Brendan O’Neill (SPIKED 12 Sept 2025)
« Here’s my question: why would you obsess over Kirk’s trans views so soon after his death if not to hint, wittingly or otherwise, that they provide some kind of moral context for what was done to him? He believed in biological sex. He wanted men out of women’s sports. He opposed the drugging and mutilation of confused young kids. These are normal views shared by millions. Barking ‘He was transphobic!’ even before he’s been buried would be like shouting ‘She was Brexitphobic!’ following the terroristic murder of Labour MP Jo Cox in 2016. That is, it smacks of a horrific implication that there is a logical link between what Kirk believed and what he suffered. That the one follows the other.
« […] In a sense, it doesn’t matter if the suspect shot Kirk for his ‘anti-trans’ views, because we now know there are many people in our society who think such a thing would have been fine.
« […] And much of the post-Kirk glee touched on the trans question. ‘Can we get JK Rowling next?’, asked one Bluesky lowlife. It would be for ‘the greater good of trans people’.
« […] The end result? Even the bloody assassination of a young dad can be cheered because it provides an ‘alleviation of anxiety’. It gives breathing space to the narcissists. It removes from the world someone who committed that gravest sin: he refused to sacrifice the truth of his own eyes to the end of validating the fallacious self-image of ‘women with penises’. »
link to spiked-online.com
I think this is the sort of narcissim you are talking about:
link to archive.is
“Earlier this week, DC Comics abruptly cancelled its new Red Hood comic from trans writer Gretchen Felker-Martin and artist Jeff Spokes. The decision came after Felker-Martin posted comments and jokes on social media about the assassination of prominent right-wing activist Charlie Kirk, which occurred on the same day—September 10—as the comic’s launch. DC Comics said in a statement that social media posts “that can be viewed as promoting hostility or violence are inconsistent with [our] standards of conduct.”
Now, in a new interview with the Comics Journal, Felker-Martin opened up about her posts and DC’s decision. She argued that DC had had no issue with her outspoken and sometimes incendiary social media presence when it approached her about doing a comic in 2024.
She recalled how she told the publisher at the time that it would “get between five and a hundred of the craziest people you’ve ever met in your life, screaming for my head and yours.” She went on to say that initially DC had given her “no terms or limitations” on her social media; a DC spokesperson reiterated to io9 the company’s previous stance on not abiding by posts that “promote hostility or violence.”
In the weeks leading up to Red Hood’s launch, past social media posts made by Felker-Martin on charged political topics, including the Israel-Gaza war, resurfaced. Felker-Martin told the Comics Journal that it was at this point that she received pushback on her social media activities; a spokesperson for DC confirmed this to the Comics Journal, saying the company requested Felker-Martin be more mindful of her online statements. Felker-Martin claimed she generally abided by that request until the day of Kirk’s murder.
The author said she stood by her comments about Kirk while expressing sympathy for her Red Hood co-creators, which include Spokens, cover artist Taurin Clarke and editors Arianna Turturro and Rob Levin. “I can only put it down to really just a moment of poor impulse control,” she told the Comics Journal. “Had I thought for another second, of course I would’ve known [that it would be a problem for DC], and naturally, as soon as I had said it, I did know.”
Felker-Martin also stressed that she did not want to work with DC Comics in the future: “I have no desire to be part of any organization that wants to pretend that people like Charlie Kirk are decent human beings who deserve respect.”
An example of Trans narcissism?
link to archive.is
Pandora’s box has been wedged open; is there anything to shut it?
Doesn’t look like it..
The Westminster spawning vats have always been the core of this; the SNP just latterly got in on the act.
We’re screwed..
He used too many inverted commas. Attention seeking drama queen.
The Federal government hunts down foreign contributers to Antifa. Assets of foreign people frozen and arrests imminent. This comes after evidence showing rioters are being paid to protest against the deportation of criminal gangs who have been trafficking people into the United States.
@Young Lochinvar;
“Know your history, own your future.”
Here’s some history that can let us own our future;
The Sole Sovereign Crown in Westminster
The English parliament acquired its sovereignty by incorporating the English crown via its 1689 Bill of Rights, resulting in the well-known ‘Crown in Parliament’. The English monarch was the sole source of its alleged ‘unlimited sovereignty’, but the monarchy lost its sovereignty in the process. Effectively, England’s MPs now owned and exerted England’s sovereignty.
The new British parliament acquired no sovereignty from England’s 1689 Bill of Rights.
Nor did it inherit the English Crown’s sovereignty from the deceased and intestate English parliament, a view agreed by Professor Robert Black KC FRSA FRSE FFCS, FHEA, former Dean of the Faculty of Advocates.
Nor did it incorporate the British (essentially just English) Crown, pointless now without its sovereignty, nor that of the Scottish monarch, whose throne was emptied by the Treaty, and also pointless, being only one Scottish sovereign among hundreds of thousands of others in 1707, and millions today.
England’s MPs are not a sovereign body in themselves, and neither are the English electorate they represent.
But what the British parliament did incorporate, and literally so, was the formal delegation of the Scots’ MPs, who are the sole formal representatives of the Scottish sovereign people who, under their own still extant constitution, ARE the Crown of Scotland.
Thus the Scots MPs are the sole body in Westminster legitimately entitled to wield any sovereignty at all in the UK.
And if Westminster can insist and enforce, as it has, that its (English-based but demonstrably bogus) sovereignty can legitimately encompass Scotland and overrule its formal representatives, then it cannot seriously deny the same for Scottish sovereignty over England, should the Scots MPs choose to exert it.
There is only one sovereign Crown that is formally and legitimately represented in or by the UK Parliament, and it is exclusively Scottish.
Of course, as it to be expected, that is not at all what Robert Black KC has said. His view is precisely 180 degrees to yours, as can be found here: link to rblackkc.substack.com
I wonder if Robert Black knows you are falsely ascribing these views to him, I doubt the promotion you’ve given him to Dean of the Faculty of Advocates (a position he hasn’t held) is enough flattery to convince him to overlook the falsehoods your spreading about him.
Why would you expect his view to differ from what I ascribed to him, Aidan?
Your link is to a transcript of his SSRG talk. His views are not opposed to mine.
I accept I was misinformed of his Deanship, but that detail does not affect my case.
But, as is only to be expected, Aidan, your rebuttal is devoid of substance, again.
Merely mentioning a 3420 word talk doesn’t cut it, Aidan.
So, let’s have your refutation of my case.
Huh, so no actual refutation, Aidan, just your typical content-free dismissal again.
Your missing-in-action argument can only revolve around the issue of whether the British parliament inherited the sovereignty of the English parliament.
That the English parliament ceased to exist in 1707 was the finding of the Supreme Court in 2022, meaning it did NOT continue as the new British one along with its sovereignty. The Supreme Court being the Supreme Court, that fact is not only true today, legally it has always been true. Your own words, Aidan 😀
So that just leaves the question of whether the new British parliament inherited the English Crown’s sovereignty anyway. Professor Black made it crystal clear that this made no sense without the continuity of the English parliament.
But he did not do so in his 3420-word SSRG talk; the words sovereignty or sovereign were never mentioned, nor was continuity. ‘Continued’ was mentioned four times; for England’s legislation, for England’s treaties, for England’s ambassadors, and for England itself. It would be very hard to make a case for the English parliament’s sovereignty being transferred to the new British parliament without using either of those words, but if anyone could, it would be Professor Black KC.
Your lazy approach to rebuttal never got to the stage of actually identifying the part of Prof Black’s talk that was ‘180° opposed’ to my assertion, because his talk didn’t refer to that matter at all.
So your response wasn’t a rebuttal, Aidan, it was merely a dismissal, and an arrogant, ignorant, and thoroughly dishonest one at that.
I reject and condemn your lazy content-free drivel.
But in a recorded interview after his talk, Professor Black was directly asked the question if a transfer of the former English parliament’s sovereignty to the new British one took place, and he answered that it absolutely did not, that the idea is nonsensical.
I have a link to the youtube video of that interview, and a transcript of what was said.
He did a second interview and was asked an almost identical question and he gave a virtually identical answer, almost word for word.
Link to the first interview, timed to the relevant segment; youtu.be/aVQJUmJ4G28?t=1545
Link to the second interview, timed to the relevant segment; link to youtube.com
The point that Robert Black KC makes all the way through his talk (including the one you’ve just posted) is that “for England nothing changed”, post 1707 Scotland was absorbed into Englands constitutional structure. Your view is that post 1707, nothing changed for Scotland – the sum total of the ToU is that the two separate parliaments of the two separate kingdoms agreed to sit in the same buildings. Those two views could not be more dichotomous and far apart from each other.
The conclusive rebuttal to all of this is that you are the only person who thinks this, and you freely admit the courts would not recognise or support this interpretation of U.K. constitutional law. Given that should Scotland’s MP’s exercise the “powers” you describe, this would end up ultimately in the courts, the inevitable result is that the constitution is not as you say it is.
Aidan! Your response is utterly inept and grossly dishonest! Did you read or understand a single thing I wrote?
Professor Black’s talk did not address the sovereignty question, it simply wasn’t relevant to its theme. Therefore that talk is irrelevant to my position and to your response.
In the video interviews I linked, both specifically asked about the continuation of England’s parliamentary sovereignty in the new British parliament, and both got exactly the same answer from Professor Black; England’s parliamentary sovereignty could not survive the cessation of the English parliament, as formally established by the UK’s Supreme Court in 2022. Therefore there was no transfer of its sovereignty to the new British parliament.
Case closed.
As for Professor Black’s “for England nothing changed”, that did not validate the outcomes of the Treaty; it did precisely the opposite.
You don’t understand the point Robert Black is making, and I think there is an element of deliberate refusal to understand.
Robert Black’s point is that unlimited sovereignty was established by the Bill of Rights 1689, and continues to exist today. There was nothing that formally established unlimited sovereignty in the post-1707 “new” parliament, and therefore this is another piece of evidence that demonstrates that the post-1707 parliament was a continuation of the pre-1707 English parliament with Scottish MP’s included. It is a critical point for Robert Black’s argument that parliamentary sovereignty exists today. So either his argument is right, or your argument is right. Yet another voice which profoundly disagrees with you.
Aidan said;
“You don’t understand the point Robert Black is making, and I think there is an element of deliberate refusal to understand.”
Well, one of us clearly doesn’t understand it! And it’s you.
Let’s be specific; you and I are talking about England’s parliamentary sovereignty here, and no other kind. So I’m inserting the relevant terms into your quoted statements to make that clear.
“Robert Black’s point is that (England’s) unlimited (parliamentary) sovereignty was established by the Bill of Rights 1689, and continues to exist today.”
No, Aidan, that was not his point. You merely inferred it from his ‘For England, nothing changed’, to conclude that England had retained its parliament in Westminster along with its English unlimited parliamentary sovereignty intact.
The actual, and in fact the entire point of his argument was to demonstrate the wholesale illegitimacy of Westminster’s behaviour from 1707.
“There was nothing that formally established (England’s) unlimited(parliamentary) sovereignty in the post-1707 “new” parliament,”
Agreed!
“and therefore this is another piece of evidence that demonstrates that the post-1707 parliament was a continuation of the pre-1707 English parliament with Scottish MP’s included.”
Nonsense, it is clearly not! You are relying on your ‘actuality equals legitimacy’ trope again. But that trope is a fallacy. In this case, the Supreme Court in 2022 declared the English parliament had ceased to exist in 1707, so that continuity could not have happened! I made that clear several times, yet you are still asserting it.
“It is a critical point for Robert Black’s argument that (England’s) parliamentary sovereignty exists today.”
No, Aidan, it is not! I’ve already explained why this is wrong. His argument merely states that England carried on as before, as if it still possessed England’s parliamentary sovereignty, but that does not imply it did so legitimately, and he showed that in many ways legitimacy was absent.
“So either his argument is right, or your argument is right. Yet another voice which profoundly disagrees with you.”
Your dichotomy is false, because you haven’t established that ‘critical point’, thus you haven’t established that his voice profoundly disagrees with me.
Fundamentally, Aidan, your argument is an unholy mess!
“No, Aidan, that was not his point. You merely inferred it from his ‘For England, nothing changed’, to conclude that England had retained its parliament in Westminster along with its English unlimited parliamentary sovereignty intact” – that is the whole of Professor Black’s argument, if Westminister does not have unlimited parliamentary sovereignty as obtained in 1689, then his argument that “nothing changed for England” doesn’t make sense here. The entirety of the argument is the continuation of the post 1707 constitutional order in England in the new post-1707 Parliament demonstrates that Scotland was absorbed into a Greater England.
This “actual vs legitimacy” idea is not a relevant concept of law. The doctrine of parliamentary sovereignty in the U.K. is universally recognised by the courts, civil society and academia. There is no alternate law that derives from a different evolution of history, even if that evolution could have reflected more closely the terms of the Treaty. Law is not magic, as I’ve told you before, uncovering a secret spell book of legal phrases won’t unlock some special new doctrines as you and others seem to keep hoping for. To repudiate post-1707 constitutional developments is to repudiate the existence of law itself and to posit that we live in an anarchist society.
Aidan said;
“(quoting me) ‘No, Aidan, that was not his point. You merely inferred it from his ‘For England, nothing changed’, to conclude that England had retained its parliament in Westminster along with its English unlimited parliamentary sovereignty intact.’
– That is the whole of Professor Black’s argument: if Westminster does not have unlimited parliamentary sovereignty as it obtained in 1689, then his claim that “nothing changed for England” no longer holds.”
Professor Black’s “for England, nothing changed” was a rhetorical statement, not a statement of law. He was making a point. But that’s a side issue; the two key points of my argument were and are:
1 – Professor Black stated very clearly that England’s parliamentary sovereignty only made sense if the English parliament continued, and;
2 – the UK Supreme Court formally found in 2022 that the English Parliament ceased to exist in 1707, so clearly it did not continue.
Thus, there was no formal transfer of its sovereignty to the new British Parliament, because the English Parliament had ceased to exist. Sovereignty cannot be transferred by a body that no longer exists, and no such transfer was ever recorded.
England’s parliamentary sovereignty did not survive the ending of the English Parliament in 1707. The 1689 Bill of Rights (enacted by the English parliament, and which applied solely to England and Wales) vested that sovereignty specifically in the English parliament, and in no other body. With that body dissolved, the sovereignty it carried dissolved with it.
Therefore, as Professor Black made clear in both interviews, English parliamentary sovereignty no longer made sense from 1707.
The entirety of the argument is that the continuation of the post-1707 constitutional order in England, within the new post-1707 Parliament, demonstrates that Scotland was absorbed into a Greater England.
This is only true insofar as the latter part actually happened, but that does not substantiate the former claim about the continuation of the post-1707 constitutional order in England.
This “actual vs legitimacy” idea is not a relevant concept of law.
If that is true, it would be a serious flaw. Legitimacy should never be presumed; it must be verified as a matter of due diligence. I’m sure you’ve heard of that phrase, Aidan. Conflating actuality with legitimacy is a fallacy I’ve exposed in your reasoning on several occasions. A crime scene is real, but is never legitimate.
The doctrine of parliamentary sovereignty in the U.K. is universally recognised by the courts, civil society, and academia. There is no alternate law deriving from a different evolution of history, even if that evolution might have more closely reflected the terms of the Treaty. Law is not magic, as I’ve told you before—uncovering a secret spell book of legal phrases won’t unlock some special new doctrines as you and others seem to keep hoping for.
You are being snide and offensive, Aidan. Law is not inherently perfect; it contains flaws, and Westminster’s ‘unlimited parliamentary sovereignty’ is one of them.
Even so, I could accept it if its exercise truly reflected the will of the UK Parliament. But it cannot be the will of the UK Parliament if it systemically and routinely ignores the will of the formal representatives of the entire Scottish sovereign half of the Union.
To repudiate post-1707 constitutional developments is to repudiate the existence of law itself and to posit that we live in an anarchist society.
Over-egged, as usual. As Professor Black made clear, if there is anarchy in this constitutional arrangement, it sits in England’s half, not Scotland’s.
Again, you’re putting yourself in the position of arguing that something which did happen couldn’t have happened. It is complete denialism of the highest order. It’s like claiming that a man made machine will never be able to fly, or that it would be impossible to create wireless telephones. The sovereignty of the Westminster parliament is a feature of our constitutional system, it is recognised consistently within our case law. It is particularly recognised by Professor Robert Black in his essay “for England, nothing changed”.
Your view that unlimited sovereignty could not be transferred from the pre-1707 English Parliament to the post-1707 Union Parliament can therefore be dismissed outright. Either the sum total of everyone’s understanding of constitutional law is wrong, or you are wrong.
The point about magic spells is the important one here. I don’t think you understand what law is or the function it fulfills in a society. I think you believe we are beholden to some ancient decrees set out by our forefathers which we are bound over to revere and which can be resurrected to sweep away the charlatans who misuse it. That is not true at all. The law functions to resolve practical issues and disputes that arise from the interactions between people, be it through families, commerce, or on this case the operation of the institutions of the state. It prescribes rules and procedures to manage those issues in a way that is efficient, equitable and provides some certainty to people. Once you understand that, you will understand how absurd it is to suggest fundamentally changing the way the state functions now to reflect the reinterpretation of a document from 300+ years ago. This idea that there is some “real” or “true” law out there which nobody knows about is equally ridiculous. If this law is unknown and is not used to resolve legal disputes, that it is not law.
So you can insist to your hearts content that the Westminster parliament isn’t sovereign, and that Scotland’s MP’s are sovereign and need to give their majority consent to any legislation. But we both know that out there in the real world you have a 0% chance of enforcing these ideas or in any other way having them affirmed in a real life context. I also suspect your refusal to accept the jurisdiction of the courts is only a feature of your online activity, else you would find yourself in quite a lot of trouble quite quickly.
The law doesn’t look kindly on ppl who break contracts.
Scots are Sovereign. They entered the Union as a sovereign nation. It was non negotiable.
Westminster can’t fck about with those terms & conditions or it renders the original contract VOID. Doesn’t matter how long ago it was written either. It is still active & Chucky still validated it recently along with both parliaments.
So go sit down, Aidan. Yer not a constitutional lawyer & know hee-haw. Scotland, being an ancient sovereign nation has the right to terminate the union.
@Geri – thanks for your input, valuable as always.
Why don’t you nip down to your local court (I’m sure you’re a well known individual there) and explain that to the judge? You could have the union done with by dinner time, especially if you explain it in the same eloquent terms you’ve used here.
Aidan says yet again:
“Again, you’re putting yourself in the position of arguing that something which did happen couldn’t have happened.”
The continuing English Parliament clearly didn’t happen, Aidan. The Supreme Court said the English Parliament ceased to exist in 1707. Its sovereignty expired with it. There was no transfer of its sovereignty to the British Parliament because the body that held it no longer existed to do so. Professor Black said so.
I’m not the one putting myself in the position of arguing that something which did happen, (the expiry of English Parliament and its sovereignty), couldn’t have happened. That would be you.
“It is complete denialism of the highest order. It’s like claiming that a man-made machine will never be able to fly, or that it would be impossible to create wireless telephones. The sovereignty of the Westminster Parliament is a feature of our constitutional system, it is recognised consistently within our case law. It is particularly recognised by Professor Robert Black in his essay ‘for England, nothing changed’.”
You constantly evade the argument and the conclusion, Aidan, and not just mine, but Professor Black’s, too. That sovereignty is constitutionally baseless because the British Parliament never lawfully acquired it from the former English Parliament.
“Your view that unlimited sovereignty could not be transferred from the pre-1707 English Parliament to the post-1707 Union Parliament can therefore be dismissed outright. Either the sum total of everyone’s understanding of constitutional law is wrong, or you are wrong.”
Your ‘logic’ only works if the current sovereignty is legitimate. It isn’t, and I’ve explained in detail why it isn’t. You have always avoided addressing that argument and conclusion, and here you are, doing it again.
Instead, you always point to current outcomes, and simply assert they were legitimately achieved, then you ‘conclude’ that legitimacy must therefore always have existed in order to achieve them. That is circular logic, and you deploy that fallacy often.
“The point about magic spells is the important one here. I don’t think you understand what law is or the function it fulfils in a society. I think you believe we are beholden to some ancient decrees set out by our forefathers which we are bound over to revere and which can be resurrected to sweep away the charlatans who misuse it.”
Get over yourself, Aidan!
“That is not true at all. The law functions to resolve practical issues and disputes that arise from the interactions between people, be it through families, commerce, or in this case the operation of the institutions of the state. It prescribes rules and procedures to manage those issues in a way that is efficient, equitable and provides some certainty to people.”
I have no issue with that. What I do have an issue with is the legitimacy of its foundations. I have looked into them, and, like Professor Black, I have concluded that they are not legitimate.
“Once you understand that, you will understand how absurd it is to suggest fundamentally changing the way the state functions now to reflect the reinterpretation of a document from 300+ years ago. This idea that there is some ‘real’ or ‘true’ law out there which nobody knows about is equally ridiculous. If this law is unknown and is not used to resolve legal disputes, then it is not law.”
It is not absurd to demand that a constitutional breach be investigated and remedied. Justice can’t be constrained by convenience or chronology. Why would you not want justice?
“So you can insist to your heart’s content that the Westminster Parliament isn’t sovereign, and that Scotland’s MPs are sovereign and need to give their majority consent to any legislation. But we both know that out there in the real world you have a 0% chance of enforcing these ideas or in any other way having them affirmed in a real-life context. I also suspect your refusal to accept the jurisdiction of the courts is only a feature of your online activity, else you would find yourself in quite a lot of trouble quite quickly.”
That 0% chance doesn’t mean I’m wrong. And that last sally is pure Hatey-ism. Hatey likes to pretend that I and others who think like me go around breaking laws any time we feel like it because ‘we are sovereign’, and not answerable to any authority. None of us are that foolish.
The difference essentially between you and I here is that I recognise the authority of the courts to determine matters of conditional law, as does Professor Black (whose views could not be more different from yours), whereas you reject the authority of the courts entirely. You haven’t given me an answer to who you think, other than the courts, has authority to determine issues of constitutional law. We are therefore left with the conclusion that in your world view each individual person is entitled to determine their own principles of law, or at the very least are able to arbitrarily determine that certain laws are “illegitimate”.
Hatey’s point is a pertinent one here, given you think your entitled to make up your own laws or disapply others, do you put this ideology into practice or do you recognise the folly in doing so even if you don’t personally believe in the integrity of the laws you are being coerced into obeying. If the latter, you must recognise at least on level the authority of the law even if you bemoan its supposed illegitimacy.
“Hatey likes to pretend that I and others who think like me go around breaking laws any time we feel like it because ‘we are sovereign’, and not answerable to any authority. None of us are that foolish.”
That’s another shameless fabrication from you.
I don’t like to pretend that. I know damn well that you don’t.
What I like to do is ask you WHY you don’t.
You continually claim a state of affairs exists, yet you lack the guts to match actions to words.
That’s because despite all your protestations, you know damn well that actual reality does not align with your fantasies.
I’ve pointed out before that in your self-deceiving insistence that black is white, you’re no different to the trans nutters.
You’re like one of the blokes swinging his dick in the female dressing room – claiming he’s a laydee. To which the obvious response is, if you’re a laydee, why haven’t you had it chopped off?
You want to pretend you have this mythic Sovereignty, yet you are terrified to put it to the slightest test, because you know it will turn to dust in your hands if you do.
Just like with the trans fantasists though, it’s not enough that you believe the lunacy that every one of us Scots has some kind of Sovereign power. You won’t rest until you get the rest of us to affirm you in your make believe.
“You haven’t given me an answer to who you think, other than the courts, has authority to determine issues of constitutional law”
The ballot box. Even the Supreme Court admitted that should a referendum take place, in a democracy, it would be a clear expression of the Scottish people & would have serious consequences for the Union remaining legitimate.
You seem to tie yersel in knots over courts. You forget they only ruled on Holyrood, an administration, drafting legislation. Not that Scotland should be denied independence.
No Geri – every conflict or dispute related to constitutional law cannot be decided by a public vote, for reasons that should be blindly obvious to everyone.
Yer beloved Supreme Court disagrees with you. (There’s a surprise, not)
link to x.com
Give it up, Aidan! This argument has run its course; it is done. You lost; accept it and move on.
My claim rests on three statements, the first is not disputed, the second is supported by Professor Black, and the third by the UK’s Supreme Court and cannot be disputed. Thus as stands Black’s argument so stands mine. You disagree? Then take it up with him.
Let me remind you of the conclusion I reached, which you tried -and failed- to refute:
“There is only one sovereign Crown that is formally and legitimately represented in or by the UK Parliament, and it is exclusively Scottish.”
I reached that position honestly and justifiably, and I stand by it. It is grounded in fundamental constitutional truths. Nothing you have presented has caused me to doubt it.
Oh the judgement of the Supreme Court cannot be disputed now, that’s an interesting turn of events compared to where we were previously isn’t it. Given that the Supreme Court in the very case you reference confirmed U.K. Parliamentary sovereignty as a key principle behind their judgement, that’s that then isn’t it. I know you’ll carry on claiming the world is flat regardless of this embarrassing defeat, you‘ve been at it for a while and I’m sure you’ll be at it for a while longer. All I can say is the only person you’re really kidding is yourself.
But Aidan, I never said Parliament has no sovereignty. I said it can only exercise Scottish sovereignty, because that is the sole sovereignty it acquired from the Treaty.
The Supreme Court is not a true constitutional court. It may label Westminster’s sovereignty as it pleases, but fundamentally, the Westminster Parliament can only exert the powers granted by the Treaty.
The only sovereignty it received was Scotland’s, through its MPs. It received none from England’s MPs because they represent England, NOT its former Parliament.
English sovereignty expired with its Parliament, the only body that formally held it.
Right, so the U.K. Parliament has the ultimate lawmaking authority in Scotland but not in the rest of the U.K.?
As my original claim stated, Aidan, only Scotland’s sovereignty is represented in the UKP, but it is not owned by the UKP, since Scotland’s MPs only represent Scotland, and are entitled to exert governance authority over Scotland subject to limitations set by Scotland’s own constitution.
But the sovereignty they represent cannot legitimately be overridden by England’s MPs, even if the UKP did retain England’s sovereignty. That is why I object to the UKP’s governance processes, its flat vote in particular, because they do not align with the true constitutional structure of the Union, nor with the terms of the Treaty.
I see Blitz Maniax has put up a video of Robert Black KC on YouTube for Liberation.Scot.
My device won’t share YouTube links but it’s easy to find using the search.
Yes, I watched it earlier this afternoon, it wasn’t just a simple reiteration of his SSRG talk.
His delivery was pin sharp and deadpan. No gestures or extravagant expressions of any kind, just a straight, carefully enunciated monologue in an unhurried pace.
This was a lawyer stating a formal case to the delegates present.
From his conclusion;
“Understanding this history is crucial to understanding the political realities of today. The story of the 1707 Union is not one of a voluntary, mutual partnership. It is a story of annexation, absorption, and the enduring consequences that flow from this. And this is critically important when the assertion that Scotland is not a dependency, or colony, of England today, rests entirely on the representation of the union as a voluntary partnership. What occurred was a takeover of Scotland by England.”
“This was a lawyer stating a formal case to the delegates present”
And he didn’t tell them I’m Sovereign?
Let’s hope he’s returning on Monday to commence with:
“And another thing …”
Incidentally, were the delegates from Orcland and Covid Central present? I’m seriously looking forward to them voting to set colonies free from their imperialist, colonialist, oppressive occupiers 🙂
The link to the video Geri described;
link to youtube.com
The Takeover of Scotland
Robert Black
Sep 18, 2025
The sovereign crown of Kubala.
Interesting.
During stints at Edinburgh castle, using the VIP room (not that I am a VIP) I learned this is where the auld Scots crown is brought for the Chooky Hamilton to carry on a pillow to to the opening ceremonies of the regional authority of certain devolved powers doon the Royal mile.
The status of this object and the way it has been treated post 1603 is quite bizarre.
Cromwell was hell bent on getting his hands on it, the French military actively planned out how long an assault on Edinburgh castle would take in order to get it during one of the Jacobite uprisings (might have been the ‘15), the authorities hid it in a cludgie deep down David’s tower entombed in the half moon battery during the war lest the Germans get their hands on it, Auld Lizzie Saxe Coburg as head of the Catholic/ Wicca composite known as the Church of England couldn’t even bring herself to touch it merely waving an imperious hand over it while the IRA in the early 70s thought it worth the effort and tried to blow it up by setting off a bomb in the Palace block crystal room which is directly below the “crown room” where it was neatly locked away out of sight and mind, notwithstanding nutty Walt Scott’s “chance” re-discovery of it around 1820 in his crusade to rehabilitate a new reimagined tartanified Scotchland in Anglocentric Great Britain.
And now it spends most of its time as a tourist display piece.
Someone who isn’t a hat doffing flunky of the status quo should write a book about it and the subliminal meanings this hidden away item has meant to various parties through the years.
Something about its treatment until recently reminds me of the Glamis monster of infamy- locked away out of sight as an embarrassment.
Aren’t you a Sovereign Scot, YL? Xaracen was just recently banging oan again that all us millions of Scots are Sovereign.
So we all get oor ain croons. Mine’s a baseball cap I got in BC, labelled “Shit Show Supervisor”. I wear it in the cludgie because it seems apt, but also because I too am aware of the historical link between Scottish croons an cludgies. And also the link between Scotland an shitshows.
I’m not going to be judgmental about any Sovereign Scot who has knocked themselves up an identical copy of the royal ain in gold. Although, for obvious reasons I doubt anybody will ever own up to it. I bet that they too only ever wear theirs when they are safely alone, locked in the cludgie in front of the mirror.
Lizzie wouldn’t have dared touch it or she’d have been missing a head. She was not Queen of Scots & neither is her offspring.
I remember something about that in a documentary about documents unlocked at Kew. The English were determined to let her wear it on her state visit but someone with balls fae Scotland told them to get tae fck & there’d be no pomp & ceremony shite for her either – wear a suit & wave – that’s yer lot!
Ach, they dinnie make Scots like they used to. This current shower of shite had to slip out the Stone of Destiny under near cover of darkness with Dumbza leading the procession FFS.
What an embarrassment. As the late, great Alex said, it & the crown are a symbol of Scots sovereignty & they can’t take it.
Geri @11.36
Not sure I’m with you on this one Geri.
Do you really see the Chooky Buckloo and Hamilton in 1952 standing in the way of young Lizzie and saying “talk to the hand”?
Nope, not a chance.
In the moment I don’t recall his name but the lead student who repatriated the (alleged) Stone of Destiny back in the day still felt the need over and above their admirable action to write a fawning letter to Stuttering Geordie Saxe Coburg 5 assuring him of their loyalty to the monarchy.
It’s just the times that were, but we and ours have been taken on the fairground horror show ride for centuries by these bampots.
Still hold by what I’ve said before, Jimmy 6 should have been strangled at birth, not just dropped on his head!
It was unsealed documents at Kew & the correspondence between Scotland & the English over Lizzie’s state visit after her coronation. They English wanted all pomp & state regalia for Lizzie & for her to hold the royal sceptre & she was told naw. Wear a day dress, wave & shut it.. (documentary then cut to Lizzie in a wee dowdy looking frock & a hat like she was just nipping oot tae the co-op lol) How me & my Mam laughed cause my Mam remembered it & said folks were rather insulted cause she should’ve made more of an effort. Obviously unaware she’d been told to lay off with the fancy shit. She’d to look, wave & move along & leave the ball gown & ermine in the hoose… LMAO
I very much doubt Kew archives would archive a false document. Google her pics lol….
“In the moment I don’t recall his name but the lead student who repatriated the (alleged) Stone of Destiny back in the day still felt the need over and above their admirable action to write a fawning letter to Stuttering Geordie Saxe Coburg 5 assuring him of their loyalty to the monarchy.”
Was that not to try avoid prison? I can’t remember now what all their fates were going to be I just remember they were threatened with everything. I loved Kay Matheson response – “It’s ours anyway” & so it was. They can’t argue with that. The English then decided they’d not make them martyrs cause indy sentiment was running high & after the initial shock Scots soon agreed with the students. It was ours & it was them that were the thieving barstewards. Not the other way around.
@ Geri says: 17 September, 2025 at 2:44 am
“folks were rather insulted”
My, Barbs, what a quaint picture you paint of your little family group on the occasion of our late, great queen’s coronation.
But you haven’t told us who was wearing the family fawsers on the big day. It’s those little details that turn a dry historical account into a vivid tableaux we can all relate to.
Fascinating too, to discover just how much the self-identifying, die-hard republicans of Indy care about monarchy. I’m betting there’s not one of you wouldn’t sell your own mother and her teeth for some sign of approval from God’s anointed.
“Arise Lady Barbie”. Be honest now, you just got a wee tingle reading that, didn’t you?
[2:44 am – still denying you the shift change then?]
Piss off, shiteface.
I wouldn’t want associated with that bunch of inbreds, adulterers, thieves & kiddie fiddlers.
They’re not our dysfunctional Royal family either & they never will be.
It’s outdated pish along with yer attempt at banter.
It’s only knuckle dragging feckwits who love them cause they’re as thick as shite to start with.
@ Barbie says: 17 September, 2025 at 9:55 am
“Piss off, shiteface”
.”inbreds, adulterers, thieves & kiddie fiddlers”
“knuckle dragging feckwits”
“thick as shite”
Aw, Barbs, did ye nae get the tingle I imagined fer ye?
Best see yer GP then. Fingers crossed he’s nae a bloke in a frock!
I’d never heard of the sealed Kew documents Geri.
My suspicion would be it was all an ecumenical matter..
The Catholic/ Wicca composite self styled Church of England chief bummers (no pun intended) probably didn’t want their Priestess in chief touching relics with real links to the Catholic past (ironic eh) while the Rev’d I M Jollies of the COS probably weren’t keen on her wearing it and holding a Wicca-esque ceremony here (work of the devil an’ that) but more importantly suggesting a superiority of their church over “ours”..
Aye the good ol’ (post Reformation) COS never gave a stuff over Scottish independence and liberty, only their churches’.
Just like the Scottish legal powers that were, are, and will be.
Is there a constitutional court? Well I never.
Scotland is sovereign. It had pre negotiated terms. The eejits who took us into this Union couldn’t change that fact because it wasn’t in their remit & it certainly wasn’t in Westminsters..
The Claim of Right (original version) is still an active document ratified by both parliaments.
We’re, allegedly, in an equal voluntary Union by consent of the Sovereign Scots. We can exit any time we want. Supreme court even said so because a clear democratic event will have taken place that would have serious repercussions for “the Union” remaining legitimate. The SP court only ruled on Holyrood. NOT on Scotlands right to exit.
Change that arrangement, fck about & find out.
link to x.com
Foreign affairs and foreign religion.
We should not concern ourselves with so much, it is like trying to run before you can walk.
And you cannot sort the world if you are incapable of running our own country first, or have the authority to manage it,
Your own nation is disappearing in a slow methodical manner, sometimes more subtle in its demise, however nonetheless being deleted and disposed.
Absolutely, James, everything else is merely a distraction and is just pissing away yet more time; That’s time that could be spent carrying out the necessary and essential work to begin to regain the power and controls to steer our country on a better and more just path.
It seems there are still far too many virtue-signalling and naval gazing “intellectuals” focusing and pontificating on all manner of matters outwith our borders that we can do heehaw about.
Think global, aye, but without acting local all that thinking will amount to nothing, and we will remain passengers strapped in our seats as others steer us into the unfolding car crash.
Scotland won’t ever be granted independence.
When you look outside the UK you’ll realise that.
The UK is a colony. America owns everything & they serve monopoly interests & Oligarchs. Oil, Gas, weapons industry, Trident, Military bases & geographical location to it’s adversaries all put Scotland at a disadvantage so there is hee-haw chance of changing anything. Obama stepped in to indyref & those of us who follow geopolitical news can see exactly why he did. He was rather friendly about it at the time but now they’re no longer playing with the niceties.
Doesn’t matter what representation Scotland elects. As we see across EU elections – they either start mysteriously dropping like flies or they just cancel/void the elections.
Oligarchs are running this shit show. Representatives are just puppets. Westminster is just pantomime with no real power because the UK isn’t a Sovereign nation & never likely to be now. Foreigners own the UK. That’s why the UK can stumble from one disastrous government to the next. Same shit, different rosette.
At this point I well believe even if we voted YES it wouldn’t be honoured. No way.
TWO PERSPECTIVES on the Oxford Students Union.
link to thecritic.co.uk
link to isismagazine.org.uk
Xaracen,
9 : 08 am.
Eloquent explanation,
Young Lochinvar,
The other anomally is that the British parliament ceased and became solely the “parliament of England when it decided to act in that contract” as the parliament of England in the Anglo- Irish Treaty.
They have presumed to make themselves and the Crown both English, and both Sovereign breaking the Scotland England treaty.
I notice above you posted the following:
James Cheyne says:
13 September, 2025 at 12:06 pm
Every comment I made was moderated and never appeared .
And you describe each post as being “on topic”.
I don’t think any of the hundreds of posts you’ve produced over the last few weeks have been on topic, that could be the root of the problem.
When was power of the People of England under the Magna Carta transitioned to politicians,?
1689 bill of rights.
The noose tightens on Left wing gamers advocating violence. Federal agents gaining access to gaming accounts. More arrests imminent.
They’ve always had access. That’s how the shop for unhinged nutters that can operate drones..lol
They get to live the dream for real…
You’re saying that you’ve been asked? That’s a more terrifying proposition than Burkina Faso’s nuclear plant!
A more terrifying thing for you to worry about Aidan is the unhinged English nutters currently trying to blow up Rs with their trade mark acts of terrorism cause they’re being gubbed on the battlefield cause they’re shite. Or that other unhinged madman on the loose that you lot decided to give Nukes to.
It must be such an embarrassment being you. Perfidious Albion – globally despised, no moral compass yet has delusions of grandeur that they’re the good guys. Jog on, ya rocket.
No they had to ask the United States Supreme court as American privacy laws are the toughest in the world. Unlike Britain, which also includes Scotland.
The message, is that all the issues that Stu mentions, and many more, wether Scotland or England has a root stem in Britain,
When parliaments self claim the sovereignty of of people though their new acts away from the freedoms of the people’s god given rights and transgress it to parliament rights.
This is what both three estates did and the parliament of England, whom encourage crazy laws, withdraw trials by jury , pas bills that jepoerdise both young and old, go along with gender issues and cut freedom of free Speech and make thoughts illegal but seldom actions of those that actually have cause violent abuse, harm or death, along with the encouragement of people trafficking across and into britain.
These issues can only happen when people have had their Sovereignty taken away from them and governments go corrupt or rogue, and therefore the people have no point or choice in voting for rogue representatives that wish to join in that corruption and parliament.
Including Snp or Reform whom both go along with the Westminster politics of Westminster Sovereignty.
It really does not matter wether it is the people of England, Scotland, Wales or Ireland, what matters is who own Sovereignty, the people or the parliament,
If it is the parliament then their is no one to hold them accountable, and they will impose any acts, legislation and Statue’s on you they please, command and control authority over forces that control you, This is Where the people and times of Britain is today.
England is taught that Scotland, Ireland and Wales are the problem and they in turn are taught that the Westminster politics are the problem,
But here is the reality.
There is nothing wrong with the people of either nation as people other than what they have been taught and what was taken from them,
Their Sovereignty over their nations.
They all have the same thing in common,; SNP, Labour, Conservative, Greens and Liberals. They all conspire to destroy our country and culture. They put women and children at risk to justify their ideology. And it’s the same ideology just served up differently. From Scotland to England our rights and identity has been eroded but it has not been destroyed.
There is nothing wrong with the people.
Each of the four nations of Britain should be able to hold their own Sovereignty of their own Country and not impose it on each others nation,
Each of the four nations should be able to trade freely with each other with out the the need for restrictions and impositions as they once did prior to political discourse.
Have our own laws in our own country,
For as it is now parliaments own the people,
And the people cannot hold the parliaments that have gone rogues to account, without punishment befalling them,
” They work for us”used to be the old saying. Now we work for them, apparently
Where’s Hasbara McHasbara today? Still defending the violent psychiatric unit in the Muddle East that is masquerading as a normal country? There’s a word for the deliberate mass killing of a people. Look it up.
When you vote for a government like Hamas for eighteen years then cry to the world and the world does not listen.
There’s a word for that.
Look it up.
All you have done is demonstrate ignorance of the history since 1948. You’ve merely embarrassed yourself with that reply.
Who created Hamas?
Go look it up.
You won’t like the answer tho cause they were created & funded by yer pals to be puppets who’d turn a blind eye to “mowing the lawn” & replace the PLO. They soon got pissed off with that tho & now they’re all terrorists that must die LOLz…
When will you realise that all these terrorist groups are actually disgruntled ex employees of the West?
They’ll probably want to exterminate them now cause it’s been rumoured for a long time that Oct was a false flag event & the West doesn’t like loose ends. Dead ppl can’t talk of their role in it.
No one, of any sense anyway, attacks a Sovereign Nation to target negotiators. It’s against every rule in the book of international law & is an act of war.
He’s looking to shut them up, for good.
& Quit with yer bullshit on who another country votes for & chooses as their leader. Yer not the world police. I wish someone cared about the fkn eejits that vote Tory as they do about wanking over everyone else’s leader like the outcome is going to drastically change this shit hole in any way, shape or form.
It’s the same with Starmer, an identity crisis, he thinks he’s PM of U & the Balkans & has done since taking office.
Farage too, for a while there he thought he was Trumps vice president.
So there ya go, left, right, white or polkadot, doesn’t matter. They don’t serve this country’s interests. They’re puppets.
& When the FBI suddenly announces it’s investigating other countries & think we can dispense with the crap Trump seeks SC approval for anything. They’ve gone full fascist & a failing state always looks around for a scapegoat & it’ll always be a lefty scapegoat cause they detest socialism.
Here is my first question to you and Hatey:
Of the citizens from the rogue state in the middle east who died on the 7 Oct, how many of them were not killed by Hamas but actually murdered by the IDF itself opening fire against them when applying the Hannibal Directive?
Surely they must have those numbers. So why haven’t they been released?
Here is my second question:
There are reports in youtube of an IDF soldier explaining how the IDF were instructed to stand down that day and do nothing to prevent the assault from Hamas.
There are also reports out there that suggest everyone in high places in the rogue state knew and had known for weeks, that this assault was going to take place. According to the reports, they had even a blueprint, knowing how many people were going to commit the assault and how.
In light of that, what was the real objective of the war criminal in control of the rogue state? Was it to ensure that the assault from Hamas would take place at all costs? Or was the far more chilling prospect of having an excuse to use the IDF to murder their own fellow civilians through that Hannibal Directive, so he could have more control over the number of people who would be killed?
And why is nobody looking into that? Because that would be a key point to understand the real frame of mind of the war criminal at that time.
What there is no doubt in my mind about is that he used his own fellow citizens as sacrificial lambs, and continues to do so, for the sake of creating an excuse to “justify” the genocide he has been presiding over since that day.
You say about Hamas government for 18 years and the world no listening. 18 years? Goodness, the rogue zio state has been murdering women and children on industrial scale and stealing their land and resources for the best part of 7 decades.
Meanwhile, it has been blackmailing everybody else in power across the West to get its way, even forcing other countries to fight its own wars. All while its government consistently lies and hides like cowards behind an old book that they do not even use themselves, systematically abuse emotional blackmailing to silence dissent or fund nutters and extremists so they can use them as the bogeyman.
So why are our useless politicians still listening to such an untrustworthy rogue state apparatus completely out of control, and worse, doing the dirty work on its behalf?
Is it because that rogue zio state has them by the balls?
How far up the zio arse are our politicians stuck that they can no longer see the light, they can no longer see what is right and what is wrong, they have completely lost any ethics or moral compass and are now, either defending ethical cleansing or pretending it is not happening when we all are seeing it unfold before our eyes?
Even worse, how far up that zio arse are our politicians when they are no longer making any attempts to hide anymore the fact that they have no intention to govern the UK for the interest of its people, and their only intention is to ensure the survival and expansion of that zio rogue state?
Is the war criminal governing the whole West? Because our politicians look, sound and act like puppets.
“There are reports in youtube”
No shit!
Tell us what you want to prove and I’ll find you an online report or article proving it.
There’s a report on the BBC today of US Secretary Of State Marco Rubio saying the ham assholes should come out with their hands up, bringing the hostages with them. He goes on to say that the window of opportunity where this will still be an option for the yellow, tunnel skulking lassie torturers is rapidly closing.
Obviously he used more diplomatic language, but like all decent western men everywhere, his utter contempt for the kind of “leaders” who will hide in holes in the ground for two years, cravenly preserving their yellow hides while 200,000 of their own people are pointlessly slaughtered, was crystal clear.
WTF is Rubio? Oh, that’s right, a Cuban…LOLzzzzz
He’s best to STFU & concentrate on MAGA cause they’re getting mighty angry now that they’re not really MAGA at all. Trump & this “two jobs” clown were supposed to be ending this geno-cide, not cavorting with war criminals & MAGA is also mightily pissed off that this war criminal executed one of their own for the world to see. Yahoo was quick infront of the cameras eh with his fake concern. A bit too quick & now it’s all coming out he was threatening him to shut up.
It’s all going to kick off. This war criminal is executing ppl around the world on other ppls sovereign soil.
So Rubio best STFU about who should be coming out with their hands in the air eh?
“So Rubio best STFU about who should be coming out with their hands in the air eh?”
Now, the obvious response is, why are you telling me? Take it up with US Secretary Of State Marco Rubio himself.
But I guess after the swipe left from poot, you’re leery about getting involved again with the great, good, wise, powerful and choosy. These knock backs must sting, eh Barbs?
“WTF is Rubio? Oh, that’s right, a Cuban…LOLzzzzz”
Beautiful racism, Barbie. Nobody could do it better.
No racism involved.
He’s a fine one to be telling an occupied territory to come out with their hands in the air. It’s already been argued, quite convincingly I might add, in the International courts that they’re perfectly entitled to take up arms & use whatever means necessary against an occupying, oppressive, invading force to defend themselves.
It’s already been established too, in judgement s, that they’re breaking international law by continuing, funding & arming a genocide.
Lest we forget that another court has issued arrest warrants.
Yet here are those bastions of “Western Democracy, Human Rights & all that is right & proper in the world” flagrantly ignoring everything & falling over themselves to stand beside a mass murderer while swearing fealty.
& It’s now not just Palestine & his surrounding neighbours he’s abusing – he’s flagrantly executing people on other ppls soil & now it’s not just brown ppl. The madman needs stopped – not encouraged.
Rubio has a shady as feck background too. A backstory already proven to be a tissue of lies & a committed war hawk. You’d think an immigrant wouldn’t be as vile as he is but just look at him being like a duck to water marching everyone else to the airports LOLz.
MAGA was supposed to end all these conflicts – but instead of ending them they’ve started another FIVE lol!! & Instead of ending the genocide they’re actively participating in it.
Now Kirk. It’ll be the straw that breaks the camels back. One of their own mowed down cause he wouldn’t shut up about Oct being a false flag & we now know he was warned to shut up or else…
& How many times do you need told that they don’t care about the hostages. They’re buying time cause the dome doesn’t work for their Greater plans & U is being gubbed. Things aren’t going to plan.
False flag, false teeth. It’s all the same. I bet you bought your top and bottom set in a charity shop. That’s why every word that comes oot yer moo is false.
Make up your mind, Barbie. If it’s a legitimate war then it can’t be jenny side just because one side is getting absolutely hammered.
The absolute hammering will stop when they crawl out of their holes and give up. If they don’t, the absolute hammering will continue until the ham assholes have been exterminated. And then the decent, moral parts of the world, including plenty of Arabs in the Middle East, will heave huge sighs of relief. It’ll be like when the cancer of Nazism was exterminated in 1945.
Reality, eh? It don’t care nothing for your denial, Barbs.
What’s your beef with Cubans anyway? Did you go on a raunchy holiday there and get knocked back? C’moan Barbs, tell us the juicy details! All you would have had to do was flash some cash! Dinna tell us you were too mean and Scotch to let yer hair doon 🙂
I belong to an ethnocultural minority whose influence once stretched from Egypt to China and whose members have been subject to the aggressive attention of Turks, Kurds and Sunni Arabs for centuries. In excess of a quarter of million were systematically killed in the early 20th century. Needless to say the ancestral homeland is not «ours» to call home any longer.
Some might call that an attempt to wipe us out as an entity, the G word.
However we do still exist as a people scattered in our diaspora but no one, including the UN and the so called international community takes much notice of our «rights». No one virtue signals our case and we have no ideological axe to grind in other peoples faces.
We are an ancient nation without a state and no media sympathizers, a terribly weak situation to be in, no?
@TURABDIN
Deepest sympathy to you in all of this. Is there a common language still in use? Ongoing literature? Online community? A favoured host country?
Ok I’ve racked my brains on that one. Which ethnocultural minority is it?
Are you by any chance a Pict, TURABDIN?
We Scots believed we genocided the lot of them, but it’s possible one or two escaped. Heck, we boasted about it to the Holy Father and all. Hope his descendant won’t be pissed if he finds out we lied.
If you are a Pict, let me just apologise for the genocidal ethnic cleansing and aggressively rapacious colonialism of this ruthless, pitiless race of murderers and thieves, the Scots.
Many of us would like to think we’ve changed, but heck, they say you can’t teach an auld dug new tricks.
Is that a saying you have in your culture too?
Getting buckled out of shape and accepting partial early medieval countries “foundation mythologies” is a well trod dead end.
If the Picts were eradicated by the Scot’s then you can bet your last quid it was the ruling classes and religious types.
Heck the Vikings had done most of that already and chances are Kenneth McAlpin just got a firm grip of the situation when Pictish hierarchy was in terminal wane.
Not the people, the elites.
Look at his family tree, his forebears often had Pictish brides which kind of destroys the contra argument.
Or what about Engerlunds own little piece of foundation mythology fiction, sent (FIRST) to the Pope and still repeated by Dan saf headbangers to this day; auld Brutus of Troy?
Yes Troy (13th century BC)!!
Yer having a laugh.
If you are going to slag off foundation mythologies then at least try and be impartial eh..
@ Geri at 12.30: the way to be free of oligarchs getting everything their own way by corrupting governments is to have Direct Democracy. The oligarchs can’t influence the mass of voters as easily as buying/pressurising a handful of politicians.
So how is that achievable Sarah. Is this Leftist rhetoric. Big ideas without any substance. No grass roots. No solid foundation. Lefty ideology.
Donald Trump lands in the United Kingdom for an unprecedented visit. These are unprecedented times.
Watch you don’t piss yourself again.
There will come a point when (the people of the four nations) will have to recognise and work together to gain their own Sovereignty, their own Countries and democracy back unto themselves.
Take national debt of UK parliament and the corporation treasury and the Bank of England for instance,
We are told there is a massive black hole, and we all owe this money to someone somewhere. We supposedly owed a large amount of money once before, “but where there is a will there is a way,”
We did not run to get bailed out by others,
We created the Bradbury pound,
Yes it did exist, and not spoken about much nowadays when learning economics. Instead of being based on Silver or gold it was based on the populations productivity, skills and abilities.
There seem to be plenty of engineers around, plenty of unemployed people, farmers to feed nations , and a substantial amount of other Skills and possible industries going to waste,
What no one paid attention to was that Britain developed a new currency away from the Corporate Banking System.
I think that’s the best most thought out you’ve said on here.
There’s a rumour going about that you are a girl. Is that true.
There is no need for a rumour about you. Quit harassing people. It’s all you do.
Humour just flys straight over your head Sam. Harassment I refute. If being confronted by questions is upsetting you then don’t contribute your thoughts. If you can’t take opposition to your argument then shut up and get over it.
TURABDIN,
I am genuinely sorry for you and your nations displacement, This is happening to all nations now,
I watched people of the EU complaining to von de Leyen about how there nations were growing poorer in every sense to enable and follow a new world agenda,
When you watch news good or bad, wether it fits into ones beliefs or not from every source possible, and research as much as possible the blinkers fall away.
Sovereignty belongs to the people within their nations, not institutions and think tank Society secret meetings behind closed doors ideology.
It would appear that governance of one Country has joined governments of other Countries, and the picture of nations with borders has to dispensed with even if this means ridding itself of indigenous populations,
This is now happening in Scotland , England, Wales and Ireland. And our politicians and Councils are going along with it.
Direct Democracy – alive and well, and living in Switzerland.
Before 1707, Scotland’s constitution contained Direct Democracy provisions. For a wealth of detail see Salvo.scot website.
Mark Beggan,
Afraid so, just an uneducated lady that does not know how to change the old technology device I was given to my own name,
Thats karma hey ho!
Girls are smarter than boys. Argue with that one.
Does the old technology device need changing or do you just need to change things?
Fearghas MacFhionnlaigh & James Cheyne.
Thanks for your interest in my people generally known in English as «Assyrians»
Search under Aramaic, Syriac, Syriacs & Assyrians for data on language, history and culture. It can be a little confusing owing to the various names we go under in other languages.
missed out «Chaldean» to which my family belong.
Loads of names for the same thing!
GOOD NEWS: The National are reporting the Liberation presentation at the UN on 18.9.2025. The National is sending journalists to Geneva, will do live coverage on 18th, and articles in every issue from Wednesday to Sunday.
It is thought that BBC World Service is sending journalists as well.
At last, some attention and coverage of a non-political party initiative that could be hugely helpful to our cause.
Oh yeah?
Who’s presenting it? Why wasn’t I, and just about every other Sovereign Scot, consulted?
For somebody who is banging oan about direct democracy just a little bit further up the page, you seem awfully relaxed about an initiative that has the support of no more than a handful of unknowns.
Be quiet.
Maybe you’ll have a vote in a democratic referendum. I very much doubt it tho.
Blow-ins & interlopers won’t be included in the next one.
Utah has the death penalty with two options of execution. Lethal injection and Firing squad. I go for lethal injection because a firing squad is for soldiers who betray their country. lethal injection would be more appropriate as it’s similar to pest control.
“I go for lethal injection because a firing squad is for soldiers who betray their country”
That’s a bit rich innit? I’d prefer that to be switched to Politicians.
Aye, firing squad, there’d always be some sick & twisted head case who’d just happen to miss just for the shits & giggles of it not being a clean shot.
But anyway, weren’t you told “Thou shall not kill”? In the space of 24 hours you’ve soon changed yer choon…
“weren’t you told “Thou shall not kill”?”
Hey! Good one Barbs.
You could write that on the sides of the mobile gas chambers you were enthusing about with Confused.
Remember? The mobile gas chambers that you intend to use on people who disagree with you.
Blackadder: Firing squad joke:
“We aim to please”
Speaking about killing politicians is a criminal offence.
The choon is the same I’m not killing or talking about killing anyone. There’s going to be two options on the table.
I refer you to my previous statement.
Yep. Religious hypocrisy. “Cast the first stone “ and all that shyte.
Aye, Marie…they can’t halp themselves.
A so called Christian State has the death penalty – well I never!
& recently the biggest crazed nutters who commit familicide too. I don’t remember Jesus saying “be sure & bring the family when yer coming” lol…
Yup.
Rule 303;
Shoot straight you b8stards, don’t mess it up..
Go for it, Mark!
The madness of Crowds Gender,Race And Identity.
By Douglas Murray.
Just purchased this book.
Thoughts and prayers go out tonight for Erika Kirk and her two children.
Cheer yourselves up, fellow Wingers, before you go to sleep – look at Liberation Scotland facebook page. And The National will be readable for a few days as well with their coverage of the Liberation action in Geneva.
Unfortunately I can’t read Facebook.
Cause my account was inactive for a long time they now want facial recognition to unlock it. Aye, like that’s going to happen. I’ll get right on it, not.
Salvo should put their articles & announcements somewhere outside of American censored sites.
@ Geri: I expect the news is elsewhere, I just happened to be looking at facebook as I’m not a twitter member. I have joined Salvo so I got an email too. There is no membership fee so if you support their work you can join Salvo. 🙂
And so it goes on. Another load of adverts featuring mixed race parents [why are there never any Eskimos?] with hermaphrodite offspring dying there hair pink. Effing weird.
I see main is flogging my own jokes more than I do – I prefer the one about eating the english. But I wouldn’t overdo it.
“gas gas gas”
The anglos dropped poison gas on “mesopotamian” tribes in 1919, considered it a grand success and thought about using it on striking miners.
Then they poisoned Gruinard with anthrax. They only cleaned it up when soil samples were mailed to the english politicians.
Then they setup one of the world’s biggest poison factories at porton down.
“are we the bad guya” – apparently not because that’s how the anglo supremacist mindset works.
they also pioneered the biffo idea of dropping incendiaries, in the dark, on civilians in ww2, while mumbling something about “evil nazis”. At least the yanks had the balls to do their bombing in daylight and actually try to hit something military, like a panzer factory. Fun fact : when shot down, only 30% of raf bomber crews got out because they made the hatches too small, while 70% of yanks managed to bail out. Another fun fact : Arthur Harris gets the blame for the “terror bombing” but is all really came from Churchill.
the anglo, as cowardly as he is greedy, and as queer as he is a liar, with hypocrisy written in his DNA
Wow, Confused, what an excellent post!
Have you checked out support for Indy yet? A surge in Yes-intentioned voters of around 10 percentage points, and all around 1 AM this morning.
Tak a wee bow, and maybe gie us a twirl tae.
Then gie us anither post jist as guid. Dinna listen tae the nae-sayers noo, ye’ve goat this!
The English patient. Great film
The Patient English.
In which the top 5% of the English public school system go out into the world to benignly rule and tolerantly administer the lesser races for their own good.
Quite a lot of it was filmed on location in Edinburgh.
Haha, just my little joke, but Confused will be along in a mo to insist that every word I just posted is true in his alternate reality.
And to claim that the original unabridged version had bumming scenes set on every continent. Some of them filmed on location in Edinburgh too.
Not proven verdict binned, all time high prison population, police focused on hurty-feelz and face painted Pride march attendance, one-way hate “crime” and jury-less trials being pushed.
Regressive “progressiveness”.
Aren’t things supposed to get better, not worse?
Cheers Nikla; hope yer next one’s a hedgehog..
It’s all in the plan. Systematically dismantle the rights of the people.
I can only guess you didn’t get the news, YL.
So please sit down – this is going to come as a terrible shock to you. Ready?
Sturgeon resigned as Scottish FM in March 2023 – two and a half years ago.
Those of us who already knew she was gone have lang syne concluded that if all the things you are bitching about are still ongoing, then it’s because the people now in charge want them to.
It’s nowt to do with Sturgeon at all.
Learn to ditch the pantomime villain mindset on life and politics, YL. Then you might start to get somewhere.
Take a look at another wee third-world-ish country on the other side of the world – Nepal. They just threw their entire governing classes out in 48 hours. So where there’s a will, there’s a way.
It’s just not possible for one, wee, partan-faced, whiny, congenitally incompetent wumman to control an entire country, unless that country deep-down wants to be controlled the way she’s controlling it.
It’s called legacy.
Angela “different day different hair colour” Constance was one of her appointed placeholder/ seat-shiners and Swinney was and still seems to be her butler.
Isaiah 1:28
And the destruction of the transgressors and the sinners shall be together, and they that forsake the Lord shall be consumed.
Ah well a day of Royal pomp and circumstance. And how much will this all cost. Hundreds of millions when police, security, roadblocks, RAF fly by, and the extravaganza itself are all added up.
Shows England for what it is. Fur coat and no knickers.
And talking of no knickers one had to grimace at the Epstein pictures screened onto Windsor castle walls.
But who was it actually smearing. We’re they trying to smear Trump as being widely cast.
Was it intended to target the Royal institution, and a certain royal resident in the Windsor grounds. What do A man stripped of his Royal titles and a man who paid a huge sum to sex victim Virginia Guifre. Maybe that’s why the police arrested four individuals for the light show. Maybe the projection was an act of terrorism. That’s very much the way the days. Or do you even need a reason for the police to arrest folks.
Public money well spent. Let them eat cake.
Trump only answers to the American people. Starmer stands on the edge of the abyss. The man who wrote the EHRC and now falls on the sword of his own making. Trump is here for Britain and Christian democracy. The most powerful man on earth. The richest most powerful nation is alarmed by what’s happening to Britain.
“The richest most powerful nation is alarmed by what’s happening to Britain.”
They can’t win against the Houthis, mate.
Wakey, wakey.
Mark Beggan @ 09.38.
Is Christianity not a Theocracy, rather than a Democracy ? I vaguely recall the Messiah speaking of His Kingdom (hardly a democratic concept) not being of this world. And, in a book which advises slaves to be content with their lot, whilst praying for all those in authority over them as the powers which be are ordained of God, democracy seems a bizarre description.
Just passng thoughts which have little to do with Scottish independence, for which I apologise.
@ Sven says: 17 September, 2025 at 10:02 am
“thoughts which have little to do with Scottish independence, for which I apologise”
Get out of here!
When was this place last about Scottish independence?
Indy died 5 years ago. This place is just an interminable wake that refuses to die too.
Trump won’t see a single member of the public while he’s here. He’ll only see politicians, royals and soldiers.
Imagine passing up on the delights of a wee walkabout in Govan or Pilton!
He must be right aff his big orange heid.
Well Isaiah,she’s certainly taking her time.
I’m God’s good time springs to mind.
Is your imaginary friend talking to you again?
Guardian cartoonists are the best – a picture paints a thousand words.
US AI TECH GIANTS pledge £31bn in goldilocks UK.
AI a novel technology that no tech giant has yet been able to quite master.
But hey you guys, it is the future, isn’t it? Yeah, but are you the ones to be leading us into it?
«Goldilocks and the Three Bears is a 19th-century English fairy tale. The original version of the tale tells of an impudent old woman who enters the forest home of three anthropomorphic bachelor bears while they are away. She eats some of their porridge, sits down on one of their chairs, breaks it, and sleeps in one of their beds. When the bears return and discover her, she wakes up, jumps out of the window, and is never seen again».
Begging bowl Britain?
No.
It’s just the colonisers trick of pinching talent. I’d read the small print. America doesn’t like sharing & they’ll probably own it outright by this time next year.
If not the Americans the Chinese, both régimes are predatory.
Would rather be dirt poor than have anything to do with either corporatist system.
I must’ve missed where the Chinese have over 800 military bases around the world, enforce everyone to follow their foreign policy & regularly invade, occupy & kill millions in their wake.
Henry Kissinger — ‘It may be dangerous to be America’s enemy, but to be America’s friend is fatal.’
@ Barbie says: 17 September, 2025 at 2:02 pm
“I must’ve missed where the Chinese have over 800 military bases around the world, enforce everyone to follow their foreign policy & regularly invade, occupy & kill millions in their wake”
I guess this is a piss-poor attempt at sarcasm, but I’ll bite.
Provide a list of the 800+ American military bases.
Provide examples of everyone being forced to follow American foreign policy.
Provide examples of regular invasions, occupations and body counts in the millions.
Just for once, let’s see some evidence to back up the never-ending stream of verbal diarrhoea streaming forth from your big, flapping, congenitally ignorant gob.
It’s a well documented fact that the USA has over 700+ military bases around the world.
It’s also a well documented fact that America runs & is the only one to hold veto power at the World Bank & IMF. It uses these organisations to have full control over other countries finances, development aid, infrastructure, loans, trade & economies. Strangulating those who don’t do as they’re telt & imposing illegal sanctions, austerity measures & cutting off trade. They also use this bullshit to thwart development & then laugh when yer classed 3rd world. They’ve also been used to remove countries from Swift payment system & to steal countries currency reserves on a whim. They’re also used to impose USA foreign policy & whatever wackadoo policy they wish, like TRA bullshit. Don’t comply & you’ll suffer the consequences of all of the things listed above or a regime change/assassination/ colour revolution/sex scandal or whatever else they want. It even tells you on their website – they help shape “government policies”
You may have heard the term weaponising the $ & how it’s all unraveling. Go ask Google. These are clear examples.
Let’s move onto NATO. It’s there in the rules. Follow USA foreign policy or you can’t join. Give up a chunk of free real estate for military bases too, let them move in weapons & nukes & keep yer nose out of what goes on there because it’s no longer that country’s territory. It’s Americas & they’re not subject to that country’s laws. That includes all of their personnel. Be ready to go jump to war when America tells you to, regardless if they’re actually a friendly nation to you or not. Also, if a NATO country invades another NATO country, America will decide which NATO country wins. They have veto there too & this includes a NATO country being persecuted by an outside force, America holds the veto to overule you all & if they decide that outside force is more their friends than the NATO member is then that’s just tough, yer on her own.
It’s also a documented fact that America has killed millions worldwide with their forever wars, sanctions, regime changes, dropping nukes, illegal invasions, thefts, installing puppets, man made famines & as we see in Palestine, cut off medical supplies, clean water & just bomb the shit out of infrastructure. Just claim they’re terrorists. Even if they were on their payroll.
Now that other wee tyrant thinks he should be added cause he has Pegasus, surveillance & can detonate pagers so everyone will now bend the knee & show him fealty too. Write it into Law & let’s buddy up.
BRICS is changing all of this. It’s giving countries options & is helping many former colonised & impoverished ppl get back on their feet with loans that completely bypass all the American bullshit & conditions & introduced a payment system of their own to dump Swift. It’s catching on too as more countries join. Look at what China is doing in Venezuela to thwart harsh sanctions & repeated attempts at regime change by the US to steal their oil. They’re building & buying stuff & not charging ludicrous interest rates or imposing a long list of conditions. Their actions have resulted in countries partnering up that never would’ve done so in the past.
America only knows death & destruction & their wee run is over. The global majority don’t need them & that’s why they’ve went holiday daft with tariffs on allies.
So there ya go, shiteface. I ken you won’t respond with a thought provoking rebuttal but this’ll hopefully provide onlookers with an insight into how pervasive & parasitic America truly is & why a new world order is emerging. Not through brute force but by systematically changing the system starting with the purse strings.
@ Barbie says: 18 September, 2025 at 1:42 am
Hey! This is more like it. 1:42 am. The moon would have been shining bright by then.
Ain’t shrinkflation a bitch, though. Down from 800+ bases to 700+ bases in just one day. Let’s keep this going – see if we can get to 100+ bases by this time next week.
“It’s a well documented fact”
So document it, honey. That which is asserted un-evidenced may be discounted without evidence. Thems the roolz. And thems the roolz that’s gonna be applied when dealing with a congenital liar like yourself.
“It uses these organisations to have full control over other countries”
You claimed “enforce everyone” Barbie. Provide evidence that “everyone” is enforced by the USA.
“It’s also a documented fact that America has killed millions worldwide”
So document it honey. And provide some examples of the “regular invasions” you claimed. You do know what “regular” means?
“detonate pagers”
Wasn’t that absolutely brilliant though? I still laugh every time I’m reminded of it. Perfect targeting where it’s gonna count.
“BRICS is changing all of this”
Course it is. Why don’t you give me all your USD and I’ll let you have my renminbi.
You’re not going to live long enough for the renminbi to be any use to you but, hey, that’s an un-evidenced assertion on my part, so feel free to prove me wrong.
“I ken you won’t respond with a thought provoking rebuttal”
How’s about you post something thought provoking first? Not cut and pasted AI generated propaganda slop.
“Not through brute force”
Aw, Barbie, yer a national treasure. If a future Scotland ever needs to erect a statue to commemorate and commiserate the failed Indy movement of 2010-2020 they could do worse than use you as the subject. A self-identifying Scot who could post reality denial like that while poot’s imperialist invasion grinds on in its 4th year and barely 2 years since the yellow subhuman scum erupted out of their holes to carve up the screaming lassies with knives and post the vids online.
I hope the sculptor is good at carpets. You’ll need a big, realistic, polyester hank between yer teeth.
Trump declares 0 illegal migration into the US this month. It can be done when there is the will.
As Larry Johnson pointed out, if their borders are now so super secure – where’s all the drugs coming from & why a bounty on an elected leader?
Dropping from the skies? Will they take out airplanes next just incase until they get their dome fitted? Lol
I’m really pressing your Marxist reality Geri. It must be awful being a lefty looser in the face of the Right Wing Fascists on the march.
Question still stands.
Ditto for England too. They manage the borders. Why are they shite at it? Tho stopping travelers fae wearing t-shirts obviously takes up a great deal of their time these days. We can go upsetting war criminals now can we? It’s just not cricket.
‘Trump declares’ – if that lying, thieving, greedy, grasping psychopathic snake ‘declared’ the sky was blue I would still get a second opinion. That toddler-brained dangerous lunatic just says anything from minute to minute that plays to his shrinking support base, that makes him look good.
The truth is, as long as he thriws a few token scraps to the base racist and misogynistic Jesus-based arsehole fears and furies of his clown fans, they will allow him to dismantle the country round about them, and they won’t care. ‘Trump declares’. Laughing incredulously here.
Not a Trump fan then? My, he’s sure gonna be heartbroken when he finds out. Perhaps his inner circle will circle the wagons to shield him from the pain and angst your toddler-brained rant would surely cause him.
“they will allow him to dismantle the country round about them, and they won’t care”
Wow, check out the cognitive dissonance on this one!
11 years yesterday since your mob set out to dismantle Scotland and everything good and decent in it. Years of your mob attacking the rights of women, promoting deviancy as policy, and trashing our SNHS. Not to mention accelerating the closing of our oil and gas industry. Only 2 days since your mob gleefully set out to dismantle our uniquely Scottish Not Proven verdict.
But you’re gonna self-id as one of the good guys to the bitter end.
Fine. Us decent, rational Scots can only hope your end is very bitter indeed. You and all the other tribalist eejits whose narcissistic antics have dragged Scotland down since 2014, to the worst the country has ever been in my lifetime.
President Trump and the King inspect the Scots Guards. The stage is set for our place in the United Kingdom. Staying strong in these dark days of Marxist death cults.
lol
I find it interesting how the monarchy of England is being dispersed, down graded in Status in various ways and forms nowadays,
From illnesses, suicides, streamlining, scandals and onslaught of Stories. I wonder where they are going with this subtle but constant barrage.
And what it will mean to Scotland.
What is Swinney saying about the state visit. Nothing! Absolutely Nothing! One would have thought he would have kept tradition and marched with the Lesbians. But alas. Nothing.
Scots think Trump’s a fanny.
Funnily enough, so do over 50% of Americans & growing since he’s shat all over his MAGA fan base. Starting with those worthless bitcoins, a heads up on insider trading, asking what Epstein files *whistles* & being up a madman’s arse licking tonsils. Trump is probably looking forward to the break & what better way to spend it than with the inbreds who continually making him look a chump. Mandelson eh? Not the brightest idea was it?
Your langauge is disgusting.
Thanks!
“Scots think Trump’s a fanny”
Funnily enough, this Scot has long suspected you’re not a fanny.
Not that it matters that much – sex is irrelevant where posting online insults is the primary (only ?) order of the day.
Still though, Barbs. In a country whose sole dubious claim to contemporary fame is the fast-tracking and “normalisation” of sick blokes insistent on presenting themselves as chicks, why would we expect the online world to be any different?
In his oaths Charlie promised to uphold the treaty of union article, what if he is one of the last monarchs, of England, williams interests appear to else where or at least rather subdued.
How long will the supposed union last if disbanding the monarchy,
Because Westminster parliament does not hold Sovereignty over the people of Scotland as the parliament of England,
He is also the head of the Church and his oath is to uphold and protect the Christian faith.
The royals have as much religious faith as I do – zero. It’s all for show.
@ Marie says: 17 September, 2025 at 1:49 pm
“as much religious faith as I do – zero”
Holy Mary, Mither o Gowd! Guess who was in a hole in the ground the day they issued the Irony Meters.
Tak yer mammy aside, Marie, and ask her nicely what your name means. Once she has explained, dinna throw a pet if she asks you why you, a self-identifying adult, never thought to change it.
Excuse me Beggars, but are we to assume the protector of the Christian faith as you put it didn’t read the bit about adultery, neighbour’s wives, sanctity of holy matrimony, or any of the other guff he’s supposed to be adhering to whilst he’s upholding and protecting?
Taxi for Hypocrite!
Brother lee love has been conducting his sermons all week.. he’ll smite us all in a minute.
Correction, he is head only of the Anglican Church and has no jurisdiction over any Scottish churches that are not part of the Anglican communion.
MB
Whose Church?
OT. £31bn investment to employ less than 5000 people. Seems a little extreme.
DEI.
Diversity, Equity and Inclusion.
Or commonly known as Didn’t Earn It.
Snp are puppets, or muppets which ever name suits, actors, maybe.
The subtle and not so subtle changes of the four nations of the Isles of Britain.sometime one imagines that all parties have agreed that the four nations should come under new ownership,
Just waiting for Starmer to give us it back and the billions of reparations like he offered with the Chagos islands.
James Cheyne
I want you to have my share of the reparations.
@Hatey
I was named after my mums best pal – not after someone mentioned in some daft “holy” book. How about you mind your own business Mr Hate-filled.
Only the true Mither of Gowd denies her …
Ach, never mind.
James you really have a heart. In case you havent noticed Starmer is realy needing a friend right now. Starmer nae mates!
They do appear to have altered their faith, from what was stated as specific in the 1707 supposed treaty,
And they changed those shoes and those haircuts. What were they thinking. Where did they get those shoes? I cant sign this treaty with a man who wears shoes like that.
DATA CENTRES are part of so called Critical National Infrastructure or CNI.
American companies are promising significant investment in such CNI in England over the coming years. With the exception of England’s job hungry north east most development will be in the golden triangle of Oxford, Cambridge and Greater London.
CNI is now fair game in the cyber wars between the Americans, the Russians and the Chinese.
Regardless of the starkly obvious matter that those who control these data centres effectively own and decide the usage of the stored data these centres are a fair target in the cyber wars scenario and will require proportionate investment in heavy security.
One might conceive of a cyber attack that could bring the UK’s «capital» to a total halt.
Where would that leave Scotland and its jelly politicians?
link to insight.scmagazineuk.com
URGENT Rev – they have passed a vote at Holyrood today to abolish the Not Proven verdict.
The Not Proven is a very useful option – it makes clear why a case has failed whereas the Not Guilty verdict covers a multitude of circumstances.
The fact that other jurisdictions don’t have such an option is a mark of their inferiority, not of Scotland’s.
Is there any way that we can get this vote reversed? Can it be challenged in some court elsewhere?
I do not trust the SNP’s motives, nor their intellectual capacity, for such a move.
Why don’t you just phone them yourself and say my names Sarah and get that changed. Job done. How’s the UN declaration of Kubala going on?
“say my names Sarah and get that changed”
Erm,
sarah very consistently makes it clear her name is “sarah”.
When somebody adopts specific if peculiar capitalisation of his or her user name, it’s only polite to conform.
Unless, of course, like in the case of the pig-ignorant republican boy fae “scotland”, it’s an insult to a person or country that deserves, even demands, the respect of a properly capitalised name.
It needs closing. It’s just a glorified talking shop meddling in things no one asked for.
The sooner Scots see this as a Westminster staging post & reject it, the better.
The time for anything actually being productive there has long expired. They could pass more important laws than this one.
It was always going to end up as being past it’s sell-by date when the carved it out & stripped it of anything meaningful.
Well done, nawbags.
The bookies have the SNP 1 to 8 to get the most MSPs in the 2026 election. Depending on what polling you analyse the SNP will get between 56 and 60 MSPs. Just short of the required 66 MSPs let’s not argue about the Presiding Officer vote. The Greens will make up the difference. An SNP/Green coalition is odds on. What is my prediction?. SNP first,Reform second, Lib Dems a shock third and Scottish Labour fourth. See my comments months ago. Another 8 months of a UK Labour Government will destroy Anas attempt to become FM. The Hutchie Boys have no luck.
The Guardian Online is reporting that two laboratories that have analysed biological samples taken from the late Alexei Navalny have each concluded he was poisoned.
According to the prison authorities who were “looking after” him at the time of his murder, he experienced “sudden death syndrome”. Perhaps that sounds better in Orc-speak.
There are rumours that the Orcs intend a new approach to the tidying up of “loose ends” in future. New prisons and solitary confinement facilities will each contain a high-rise annexe. The windows on upper floors will be fitted with Orc-standard safety catches.
The last large-scale opposition gathering to happen in Orcland was Navalny’s funeral in March 2024.
Figures for the number of R F citizens who have fled abroad since 2022 vary, but 650,000 is quoted a lot. Many of these don’t want a 6-month spell in the meat grinder. In total, it is estimated that the R F diaspora totals some 25 million, although poot can’t take all the credit for that. The exodus has been going on since Stalin’s time.
Partly as a result, the R F population is forecast to decline by the same figure again, 25 million, this century. Partly as a result of that, there are reputed to already be perhaps 2 million illegal Chinese immigrants in the R F far east. That developing situation is likely to accelerate as the Orcs run out of warm bodies to defend their vast imperial colonies.
Sarah @ 18.55.
As far as I can see this Bill, which appears to have majority support amongst all parties at Holyrood, is well within the remit of the devolved administration.
It would now appear to require only Royal Assent to become law.
I fear so, Sven. Look at the GRR – that too had “majority support amongst all parties” but is clearly a piece of incompetent, unprincipled, garbage. Holyrood currently is a disaster – free of people with brains or principles.
One of my regional MSPs, a Conservative, replied to my email and said they voted against.
Royal Assent. That’s a bit thick Sarah. After all the derision and accusations if illegitimacy. Anyway the King’s busy with Donald of Isla.
You’re a fine one to talk about being thick.
There’s that King of yours that all you deluded fools squawk doesn’t meddle in politics & takes nothing to do with Parliament.
He is illegitimate in Scotland. He hasn’t asked Sovereign Scots if we still consent to him being here.
@ Barbie says: 17 September, 2025 at 8:55 pm
“He hasn’t asked Sovereign Scots if we still consent to him being here”
Good spot, Barbs, you’re cooking wi gas the night. Who knew Zyklon B was flammable?
Of course, the wee problem with all us Scots being Sovereign is we all probably need to be asked if we consent to anyone being here.
That could pose a problem for the likes of you.
But dinna fash. I’ll vote to let you stay. While we’re getting all medieval and such, we can reconstitute the position of Court Fool.
You’ll get a fancy rig and a big hat with bells on. We might make them big, noisy bells, just to drown out anything that might come out of your big noisy moo.
Correct Geri. And Scots are largely indifferent to the royals.
“Scots are largely indifferent”
Ah, c’moan noo Marie.
It’s glandular and then we also have big bones.
Besides, we’re all colonised so we have to eat rubbish all day to deaden the pain.
British teacher is being investigated by journalists for telling school kids she will break the Law concerning her support for a banned terrorist organisation. This highlights the mass concern of British parents being indoctrinated by Left wing teachers.
I’m sure that unless they’re officially designated a terrorist organisation by the United Nations security council then they’re not a terrorist organisation.
Pulling shit out yer head doesn’t count & neither does acting like the thought police. People are entitled to their beliefs. Last I looked they’re an elected political party. Tories should be on that list if we’re just making up crap.
& The right-wing knuckle draggers want to rewrite this stuff? LOLzzzz What could possibly go wrong.
I asked Grok to summarise your post. Here it is:
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@Greta
I don’t know how to break this to you but the Fascists have taken over. So you will probably get a knock on your door around 4 am. Don’t pack much you won’t need it in Silesia.
Well said. People are indeed entitled to their beliefs. Anything else is totalitarianism.
@ Marie says: 17 September, 2025 at 10:21 pm
“Well said”
Seriously? What was it she actually said?
It reads like the kind of word salad Kamala Harris was churning out in the last days of her DEI-facilitated grift.
I know your posts seem to be on a pay-per-word basis, Marie, but why not push the boat out and provide a summary. After all, if it’s that stupendous a post, it will repay rephrasing and repetition.
In your own time …
& who is in charge in America? That’ll be the conservatives otherwise known as the Republican party.
Same shit, different rosette. How many times do you need told that these wee militant eejits are on the payroll of more powerful eejits through NGOs, think tanks & policy advisors who are on the payroll of Banks & Oligarchs.
The Republicans are currently imploding because, according to Alistair Crooke, respected ex British diplomat, yer favourite wee tyrant is insisting they buddy up on the America first agenda & the young MAGA voters are having none of it after Kirk. They’re done. Plummeting in the polls & increasing world condemnation will end Trump. So it looks like that’s about to come to an abrupt end too.
This is what happens when foreign agents take over yer parliament. Stuff goes to shit. Starmer is no different. He doesn’t know if he’s U, Zzz or Polish at the moment. He’s certainly not acting in Britains interests & this lefty crap doesn’t explain why it’s everyone’s parliament not just Uks. You should see the shit laws they’ve been enacting in Germany too & Merz is anything but lefty & now the West wants to re-militarise them..oh deary!
Home school. You right-wing eejits never liked “Free stuff” anyway. Nows yer big chance.
I suspect those marchers are angry voters absolutely sick of this government no matter what colour of rosette they belong to because they’ve all morphed into one big pile of shit & I include the eejits currently dossing it in Holyrood. They’re not working for Scotland’s interests either.
“This is what happens when foreign agents take over yer parliament. Stuff goes to shit.”
Another good spot, Barbs. You’re on a roll the night.
So when can we expect one of your trademark shouty posts in condemnation of poot’s attempts to take over the parliament in Kiev?
In the wee, small hours, maybe?
Looking forwards to it already. Be sure to make it extra shouty.
There is no parliament in Kiev, Matey.
There’s an illegal, unelected dictator killing all of its own population while refusing to hold elections.
The U constitution doesn’t cover his self extended wee stint at Prez. Martial laws doesn’t extend to pretendy presidents. Elections can still be held. P managed it during this conflict. U won’t hold them cause he knows he’ll be booted along with all his wee Western chums.
& R only targets military targets so they must be doing that wee Western trick of moving operations to a parliament to hide behind civilians. They’re good at that.
What was it your Colonising side said again? Oh aye, they’re all commies anyway. Let the games continue – they need those rare earth’s.
@ Barbie says: 17 September, 2025 at 11:52 pm
Certainly deranged, Barbs, but not right up there with your carpet-biting best. You need to hang fire until the wee, small hours to really get the hank of rug between yer fawsers.
I guess it must be the sight of the moon sailing high above the darkened houses round about that amplifies the voices.
BTW. You didn’t finish yer post. They need these rare earth’s what?
@Mark Beggan
Home School or use the new hybrid private system. Numbers increasing year on year. I haven’t got the 2025 homeschooling figures yet. I expect an exponential increase in numbers this year. Emigrate or find a new solution is the order of the day. Don’t put your trust in an SNP Government especially concerning Education of your children.
That’s what those hundreds of thousands of Right Wing Fascists were marching for in London on Saturday. The tide has turned. In America teachers, judges and other public official figures are all getting sacked for posts online. Migrants with visas are getting denied for comments made. The Left wing is getting routed in America.
Too right Geri when you say there is no parliament in Kiev, only an unelected dictator.
And that is the way Queer Starmer like it. He wants a war. He is preparing for war. Not so sure though that he will win. But Britain’s a big tough military that kicks ass. Will kick Russian ass. Make Britain great again.
And boots on the ground. Well like the unelected Zelensky who has snatch gangs going about forcefully rounding up recruits to fight, Queer Starmer has plans for national service here.
But hey ho, nothing more glorious to fight and die for your country. Eh?
And meanwhile I see that four individuals were arrested for shining a projection of pictures of Epstein, Trump and prince Andrew onto a Windsor Castle wall.
Seems they were arrested under the malicious communication act. Else, seems that a van driving around with a billboard picture of Trump and Epstein with the message ” welcome to the UK Donald ” attracted similar police attention. With journalists detained for half an hour the van was stopped under road traffic legislation for committing an offence and the driver was instructed to remove the vehicle.
Its a police state all right. The suppression and intimidation just goes on and on. No one, and I mean no one can have any faith in the police whatsoever. They are the bully boy thugs of a rotten political system – and folks more and more recognise it.
But what can one do. The jack boot, like apartheid South Africa now has the whip hand and dissenters just have to either keep their mouth and political views closed or take the consequences.
And tonight pomp and circumstance getting huge coverage on the BBC. Fabulous, and especially liked the bit when the King talked about fine British golf courses. Bet that didn’t miss Trump. Its just a pity the King didn’t praise fine British whisky – but maybe that’s John Swinney job.
Occasional ragged references above to Christianity. Here — to ground issues and get real — is an extended informal interview from 2021 with (very) Glaswegian Terry McCutcheon, founder and current Executive Director of ‘Hope for Addiction UK’ (formerly ‘Hope for Glasgow’):
‘Deliverance from drug-addiction through Christ’ –
link to gobha-uisge.blogspot.com
The Not Proven verdict should remain as a safeguard against wrongful convictions.
Is it only me or do you think it’s incorrect and insulting when supporters of abolition say the public don’t understand.
Who have them the right to take away the rights of others.
A while ago on the BBC news channel in an interview with Robert Redford he stated that the standard of political discussion was not very high.
Good morning from the United Nations in Geneva, an organisation the SNP Scottish Government claim to seek membership of, but seem unable to find.
So you’re joining on our behalf?
Excellent.
Just keep them off the divisive subject of tartans and clan allegiances and you’ll be grand.
That’s because it’s in a broom cupboard. The Sovereign state of Kubala. King of the Kolons.
Yes, as you ably demonstrate, colonialism only ‘works’ by “debasing the colonized” and “making any prospect of liberation seem impossible” (Fanon; Memmi etc). Keep it up guys.
Ignore the chuckle brothers Alf, Beggars and Dicky McDickface start at 8, after a quick cup of Earl Grey and a hearty rendition of God Save the King.
So the Marx brothers have decided to crawl out of the woodwork.
We’re all Fascists now and guess what! The Nepal effect is taking root here too.
“Dicky McDickface”
Top response, Bob, get your obsessive genitals references in right away.
Is it OK for Alf to hand out copies of your post at the UN? Show them what typical Indy supporters are all about?
May success be with you today.
Good morning to you and the team, Alf. You will have a great day – you will be talking to people who listen and are very interested.
Thank you.
“you will be talking to people who listen and are very interested”
Not if he’s wanging oan in Scots he won’t.
Let me guess. Scots is just intended for us grubby proles in Scotland. When hob nobbing with the great and the good at the UN, it’ll be the King’s finest English all the way.
Maybe with a few Americanisms thrown in.
Well done Alf. We all appreciate yer hard work in getting you there. Best of luck… x
bravo
&
Slàinte mhath
Good luck
Off Topic.
Interesting to see that it’s being reported that Thames Valley Police have been forced to apologise to a lady after they visited her in June following complaint(s) re tweets she had posted online. The officers refused to advise her which posts were regarded as offensive.
What makes this of particular relevance is that the lady in question is an American national, which may hopefully lead to a query or two about free speech in Britain, 2025, at the press conference scheduled for later today between the Toolmaker’s son and the large orange guy.
Before Musk bought Twitter it was run by trigger happy sensitive souls who didn’t like free speech at all. A simple tweet about TRAs for example would risk a permanent ban with zero right of appeal. The puritans run amok.
When Musk bought Twitter he reinstated old accounts & sacked the free speech haters & started the hashtag #Ban*The*ADL
He was soon made an offer he couldn’t refuse. To visit you know who & go a tour of you know where. He was soon born again & fixed the error of his ways. He went radio silent soon after.
Same with the American senators who’ve been looking for ways to change the amendments regarding free speech. They despise it wrecking their carefully planned propaganda online, especially through alternative media. EU were also instructed to usher in laws to crack down with online content & they all rushed to adopt it with great gusto. Soon the police were flooded with reports because ppl love being snitches. The Gestapo has returned. Now ppl can expect the riot police for tweets or detained on terror charges.
So will America care about this American national? I doubt it.
Those social media platforms are a hub of surveillance. Soon forums like this one will be a thing of the past.
“ppl love being snitches”
Not everybody. Some love gassing those who say things they disagree with even more.
I’m thinking myself the snitches are preferable, but you’ve already nailed your colours to the gas chambers final solution.
Isn’t that right, Barbs?
Psalms:1.2.
Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of the sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.
Sitteth thou on the seat of the shitter?
Fitteth thou on any seat ever?
Or doth thou need two? Maybe three on those days your “glands” are playing up and they have to send for the hoist.
There be-eth but ane thing better than a pie
and that be-eth twa pies.
DONALD TRUMP is seemingly pro British and loves the pomp etc.
His family history on his mother’s side, Mâiri Anna nic Leòid, was dirt poor, dispossed peasantry having to leave the homeland to escape the misery.
Pro British? are you kidding Dòmhnal?
Proud of your Bavarian ancestry too?
Perhaps on a site dedicated to the cause of Scottish Independence if Bible references are to be made some may be more appropriate to Nations and borders than others.
Deuteronomy 32:8.
“When the most High gave the nations their inheritance, when He divided mankind, He set up boundaries for the peoples according to the number of the sons of God.”
Acts 17:26.
“From one man He made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and He determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their lands.”
There you go, nations, inheritances, divisions, boundaries, peoples and boundaries covered in both Old and New Covenant writings by divine decree.
Not sure, though, that it’ll carry much weight in any ongoing independence strategies.
‘ongoing independence strategies’
Can you say that with a straight face?
Mark Beggan @ 09.45.
Only if I try very hard indeed, Mark. ‘Twas just my little indulgence in a touch of irony. I’ll put such remarks in inverted commas in the future to underline their lack of serious intent.
I have it on very good authority that Alf’s UN kitchen cabinet and cohort have now successfully negotiated Scotland’s legal status in a rather confined conference room at the UN smelling of detergents with Mr Vileda and a some short guy dressed in red with a black top hat called Henry who’s always smiling.
I see that the Hollywood luvvies are up in arms over Jimmy Kimmel being cancel cultured because of his comments about Kirk.
Where were the Hollywood luvvies when the various people throughout the world were cancelled and attempts to cancel others including the Rev because of their views on Trans ideology?
In terms of this Kimmel character, I doubt very much he was cancelled because of his views but because his show is very expensive to produce and is losing money.
link to hollywoodreporter.com
Of course, the Hollywood luvvies never let facts get in the way of their rants.
Bill to pass not proven verdict in Scotland,
Back door shinnanagins,
The devolved parliament in Scotland is under the legislation of Westminster parliament, whom have self declared themselves to be the parliament of England since 1800,
The Crown of England that rests in the parliament of Westminster to lend it its Sovereignty is there due to the English parliament “bill of rights”, prior to 1707.
That crown is what gives Royal Assent to bills,
But does not hold Sovereignty over the Territory of Scotland, and if you truely believe in the treaty of union then it States that the laws of Scotland were to be retain,
But Scots law is being altered and deleted and destroyed through the back door by Claiming that the devolved parliament from Westminster is a Scottish parliament,
Which of corse is not true, as that would end the treaty of union that yoons believe in still extant,
So the devolved parliament is a sub parliament of England
As it is with Wales and Ireland.
Leaving the parliament of England the only one not devolved and acting as the parliament of England as it claimed in 1800.
The devolved parliament sent to Scotland is a sub parliament of the parliament of England, with reserved matters held to the parliament of England authorising itself to pass or repeal Scots law by the back door. Through falsely stateing its a Scottish parliament.
Scotlands biggest white elephant in the room,
If it were indeed a real Scottish parliament able to pass its own laws there would be no faux treaty of union since the Scottish devolved government.
We the people of Scotland need to gather our intellect and information together or remain a begging Colony.
So basically then, James, you are claiming that the English in London forced the 71 MSPs sitting in Hollyrood who voted to abolish the Not Proven verdict to do so. Overturning centuries of fixed Scottish Law in the process.
Presumably the 46 MSPs who voted to keep the Not Proven status quo, including some London branch office hated Tories (spits), miraculously weaseled out of their English master’s control.
My! Say what you like about the English, but they must have some balls.
It appears their testicles are everywhere.
Now you must excuse me. I’m taking a compass out to my garden where I intend to establish due East. I read it’s gonna be a bonny sunset tonight and I want to be looking in the right direction to see it.
It is very important to pay attention to the monarchy if you still believe we are in a treaty of union as under the Scots laws and Constitution He has just promised under oath to uphold the Articles of the treaty of union in 2022.
That includes Scots Law is to remain as prior to the treaty,
THE SPIRIT OF SCOTS LAW vanished when the means of maintaining and revising it ended in 1707. It subsequently fossilized. English law is effectively the law of the British state.
The only article in that treaty that had weight was that to preserve the Protestant ascendancy through the reformed kirk. That was supposed to disinsentivize Scots from flirting with foreign powers that England did not like. The French, Scotland’s ancient ally, in particular
Scotland was supposed to keep its currency too.
Correct, except not so sure on the currency bit..
@ALF BAIRD
Found this on colonialism and education
link to easysociology.com
So simple. just get them young enough and their ours for life.
Voltaire said something of the sort about the Jesuits, irony of course he was educated by them.
Thanks Turabdin, good paper summarising the colonial education process in Scotland and other colonies, which is precisely how it is done, and some of which was covered today at the UN Geneva Scottish self-determination seminar.
Was Scotland the proving ground for the colonialist model? A rhetorical question obviously.
So much ticks the boxes including the local enablers prepared to down grade the local culture and serve the new rulers,
Alf,
Was it planned for the 18th of September or was that just coincidence?
*Sigh* Ten years ago today since indy vote. Everything could’ve been a lot different by now. Well done today.
“Ten years ago today since indy vote”
This is really interesting stuff, Barbs.
Can we infer you lose one year out of every ten through being absolutely out of your heid?
That’s 36 days each year lying in puddles of your own puke and piss. Three days every month when neighbours have to keek through your letter box and shout your name.
I gather an English education was introduced first to India in the 19th century to create an assimilated native elite and functionaries to help run the territory which apparently had 350 million Indians and just 50,000 colonialists at the time.
And then similarly introduced into Scotland when The rather insultingly named “Scotch Education Department” was created by Westminster. It was formed in 1872 and originally located in London, taking over from the Scottish Churches who previously were responsible for education of Scots.
Date of the UN Geneva seminar was coincidental, I think.
When Wings tries to deal with the nonsense of the SNP, sitting in a devolved parliament from the treaty of union, it must recognise whom it is dealing with,
And how the parties sitting in that pretend parliament of Scotland have been separated from the original treaty of union agreement for Scotland.
And why and how “Scots law ” has come under the law of England, and Royal assent restint its athority in the Westminster parliament of England,
Creating the issues of gender, hate crime bills, and removing the not proven verdict in Scotland. Under a devolved pretend Scottish parliament.
And what all of Scotland must recognise, is that we have been devolved from the 1707 treaty of union,
EHRC is the tune they all dance to.
The Mantra the Scottish devolved government have been singing for ten years. Though they dont understand it, as we all well know in NHS Fife. THis poison has to be taken out. A return to British law and Scopts Law. Our enemies are and have always been the Leftist Ideology. Britain and Scotland must free ourselves from these Marxist, Islamist Terror groups.
So will king Charles break his recent Oath and give Royal Assent to to the ” Not Proven bill” that is Solely Scots law.
As the monarchy did over the devolved parliament to Scotland.
Just because Westminster parliament passed the legislation to separate Scotland as devolved from the treaty of union agreement Does Not mean it was legal under a international treaty agreement.
My personal opinion is that Scotland has been ousted from the original treaty long ago when Westminster made the Anglo – Irish regards…..”We the parliament of England have agreed”
However this is doubled in emphasis when Westminster parliament of England devolves Scotland from the treaty of union as from……”one and Same Parliament of Great Britain”
If their are now two parliaments of Britain in two Countries,
Antifa now declared a Terrorist group in the USA. The tide is turning.
On the supposition that the devolved Scottish parliament is actually a official parliament of Scotland in its own Country able to pass its own laws ….or remove them it would be able to remove its own domestic acts that created the agreement to the treaty of Union. As the were passed in the parliament of Scotland.
The Scottish parliament according to the ‘Scotland act” cannot be a Great Britain parliament, due to not being able to pass Scots law or any other law into England Wales and Ireland.
So what is the position of the Scottish parliament?
A half in and half out partly devolved from a treaty,
A Scottish parliament only able to pass laws in Scotland would indeed make it back to Scottish parliament with no jurisdiction in England, Wales and Ireland.
Would imply it is not part of Great Britain,
This needs sorting out and needs to be defined, by Scots
Hamas wiped out. A great day for life.
A new acronym for us all to learn, PURL.
The first weapons tranche under PURL has just been sent to our fighting friends in the east. $500 million worth of a total batch value of $2 billion.
And in other news, plucky wee Denmark (population a shade more than ours at just under 6 million) has just announced that in a “paradigm shift in Danish defence policy”, they are going to acquire long-range precision weapons.
The Danes are taking a sober, rational long-term view of the Orcs. We’ll begin to believe Scotland might be seriously preparing for Independence when our Scottish government starts moving in the same direction.
Westminster parliament has remained throughout as the parliament for England and Wales, and to this day passes laws for just for the territory of England and Wales.
The Scottish parliament can only pass or repeal laws for the territory of Scotland, making it only a Scottish parliament officially.
Scotland could repeal its own domestic law acts to the treaty of union, but cannot change England and Wales domestic laws,
This would leave Westminster parliament of England and Wales untouched and remaining as is.
Would permission from the acting parliament of England and Wales be needed being as they the parliament for England and Wales devolved Scotland from the terms, conditions and Articles of the original agreement of treaty of union.
Because Englands Westminster parliament for England and Wales is claiming that only ” it ” is now in the Old treaty of union….with its self.
We have this ability now over our domestic Scots law.
This is where the devolving of governments may backfire on Westminster,
Is it or is it not a Scottish parliament that has been devolved and removed from the the treaty of union….”One and, the same parliament of Great Britain”
Because the Crown and monarchy sits and rests in the parliament of Westminster, to lend it Sovereignty to the parliament of England and Wales.
When I look at Keith Starmer I instantly think ASDA manager.
Strange that, Mark, I invariably think plastic clip on tie, polyester shirt (slightly grubby collar from one wearing too many) and poor impersonation of Mr Brittas, for those who recall The Brittas Empire.
“Since I have been manager, I am proud to say there have only been twenty-three deaths. And not one of them was a staff member”
Absolutely fantastic watching the royal banquet and must have filled attending colonial administrator Swinney’s heart with pride when King Charles, addressing Trump by reference to his ties to Scotland declared
“Mr President, you have spoken of your pride in your British roots. In fact, not only have you set foot on British soil twice in the last two months alone, but I understand that British soil makes for rather splendid golf courses!”
Makes one’s heart swell does it not. Britain the origin of golf way way back in places like St Andrews, and the home of great British courses.
And Mr Swinney, the British First Minister, without doubt would have sat there quietly being equally proud of the British whisky industry.
Just saying like. Trump may like the pomp but at the end of the day he’ll have the measure of it. His mother after all was a first language British Gaelic speaker.
I came, I saw, I despaired… how dull-witted, unfunny and uninspiring be the colonialists; indoctrinated as they seem to be in the ways of the dense and brutish Cult of Stupid.
The preferred colonialist tactic of persuasion appears to be one of boring their target audience into submission by smothering it with copious quantities of irrelevant unimaginative simple-minded infantalismic drivelese.
But enough of colonialists – they are too inglefied, careless and ignorant of true Scots history, aye, and tedious anaw, for thair comments tae be worthy o’ e’en the briefest contemplation by mature and intelligent Scottish intellects; greater souls scroll past thair childish nonsense.
Let us look instead to more erudite matters:
“The most significant psychological break we can have is losing our connection to our ancestors.”
I am, very slightly, paraphrasing the Honourable Murray Sinclair (1951-2024), former Manitoba Judge and former chair of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission of Canada.
Sinclair believed every Indigenous person must answer four questions in order to understand who they are:
Where do I come from?
Where am I going?
What is my purpose?
Who am I?
Whether it is preferred to be considered Scot or Pict – both titles point to a now single folk, for those once two disparate peoples joined together many centuries past and became as one – the imperative need for a people to maintain their connection to their ancestors is clear if they are to know who they are and where they come from and where they want to go.
I am a modern amalgamated Pictish Scot; a descendant of the ancient Picts and at the same time a descendant of the line of my people who became Scots.
a widna lawer masel tae be conseedert onything ither.
And remember this my fellow Scots and Picts wha knock aboot this (apparently nou colonised tae) place:
There’s barely a comment posted here by colonialists that is anything other than insult, threat, lies, error, diversion, distraction, logical fallacy, or hateful anti-Scots rhetoric.
You forgot to mention the Left Wing, Marxist-Islamic, Death Cult, Antifa brigade that you deviate to.
We can’t legislate for stupid but If we did your internal pain could be cared for.
“What is my purpose?”
You nailed it, Northcode.
You are finally asking the question we’ve all been asking for some time now.
Alf and the lads are bigging it up at the UN today, we need to send them our psychic energies … OOOOOMMMMM …. OOOMMMMMM
let’s meditate on the class and national enemy, and never give in to the lies of the union, of devolution, federalism and all that tired old wank
christine noonan at 2 minutes replying in the only right way to the lies of bourgeois gradualism and deviationism i.e. “devo-max”
I bags the bomber jacket
link to youtube.com
the haunting music at the end is I think a latin mass being sung
(lyndsay anderson really fucking hated his old school, what did they do to him?)
It’s the Sanctus from Missa Luba, by Fr Guido Haazen, a Belgian missionary in the Congo
America is watching Britain with great interest. The Scottish Piper has touched the President. Americans are alarmed at the situation here concerning Freedom of Speech and illegal immigrants.
One commentator referred to Swinney as the Mayor of Scotland. She wasn’t that far wrong.
CHARLES TO DONALD.
We certainly have something in common, we both have German family heritage we’d rather not talk about, tee hee…..
Last weekend’s street theatre is over – “didn’t we ‘ave a luvverly time the day we went to … ” – the saucy postcards and ice cream replaced with fosters, kebabs and smartphones, but it’s the same vibe.
– in case anyone thinks I am being a little coy, fluttering my fan, just to be clear
THE ENGLISH, ALL OF THEM, ARE ABSOLUTE CUNTS and we need to be rid of them, all of them
I hate them – the upper class, the working class, the poor, but especially the middle class, along with the genital mutilators, the wokists, the crypto fascists with a hardon for empire pretending to be nationalist, the “liberals” (the real destroyers)
we need to lose them, to get out now; but indy is not enough, for we need a de anglification and a “ghosting” for 100 years; we need to get on with our own thing, rebuilding our country without their interference.
I just want to be rich, behind my iron wall, chuckling in amusement at when their “helter skelter” kicks off – let’s see the trumpton boys get it on with da bredren from the notting hill stabival, the jihadists from ramadan, the pride queer trannies and the orange order – will they “celebrate the diversity” – and can the hospitals cope?
I never want it to stop. Non stop civil war cabaret.
There is this fallacy, coming mainly from books and films, when we have 2 sides, one must be the “good guy” and the other the “bad guy”; not so, it’s mostly just BAD GUYS ALL ROUND and it is right to just HATE THEM ALL – for you cannot say I am not a fair man. You should also stay well away from it, and well out of it; most conflicts have no moral element to them, they are just conflicts of interests, like gangsters fighting for the drugs trade, ww2 for example.
– one thing that is coming down, an innovation from the eastern war; the new weapon of war is a drone with a hand grenade; almost anyone can make one of these, and once you can make one you can make 100 – such things will make mass gatherings obsolete. Don’t say I didn’t warn you – you had your time and you will spend it, crying.
“you will spend it, crying”
To be fair, Confused, I often spend some time crying every time I read one of your efforts.
Crying with laughter.
For another good laugh, why don’t you explain your simultaneous belief that an Independent Scotland is going to be filthy rich yet will not ever be involved in any conflicts of interest.
You really expect us to be as poor as church mice, don’t you Confused. That’s why you were posting just the other day about iScotland joining the EU and coining it in large from their slush funds.
Am i blocked from posting, cause nothing is getting posted.
Breaking News Folks.
The 5000 Anti Trump demonstrators have all been reported to the Department of Work and Pensions Fraud Squad.
Why? Is it a crime to go out for some fresh air now?
Go sit down, ya eejit. I’s fcked facial recognition & surveillance will have clocked loads last week & they don’t care it’s wrong intel, as admitted by the Met, so they may just be coming for you next. Wouldn’t that be lovely?
So Mr X you are claiming for disability allowance because you can’t go out and walk.
So Mr X how can you explain waving banners and screaming in the street for 6 hours.
the lads are talking a good pagger and are not shiting it –
link to archive.ph
meanwhile our first minister is reduced to being a lobbyist for Diageo (- don’t they have their own, and much better than this tit?)
Strarmer, the vassal, has received his orders from the overlord, Trump, who should be in there, batting for us.
Notably the AI datacentres investment will NOT be coming to Scotland, but to the new silicon valley from oxford to the fens, all powered by a “hookup” from us.
starmer has a new “handler”
link to archive.ph
– this is the guy now running the UK. Fuck your democracy, goyim, jehovah put you on earth for one purpose, to serve the chosen people
and in an amazing planetary alignment – a “non shite” article from bella; for the highlands, we weep
link to archive.ph
(smalltown boy didn’t write it)
MICHAEL GOVE in the Spectator likens contemporary UK id est England to Weimar Germany.
Are Scotland’s political leaders tone deaf? Do they not hear the tumbrills rattling with the cadaverous residue of democracy and free thought being shipped to the final place of extinction?
Like mr Micawber do they expect something to turn up and save them from the coming anglocentric post imperial existential malaise?
Standing on the sidelines mumbling about injustice everywhere except in their own land they forfeit all respect.
I read it somewhere that the term Americanism was reputedly coined by a Scotsman John Witherspoon,who signed the US Declaration of Independence.
If occasional articles in the media are correct why don’t the Scottish Government ask his descendent the actress Reese to help promote ancestral tourism here.
Interesting to read about John Witherspoon but even more interesting is what was left out and why. John Witherspoon was known as Goonie Jonny at the time, but he signed the declaration while wearing women’s nightwear. Its not like Witherspoon was one of these modern inbetweenies, but the story is heroic and inspiring.
Witherspoon had to ride through the night to get to the signing on time but he was being pursued by English soldiers and their Indian guides who were trying to catch him and prevent him. To make a long story short, Witherspoon had to let his horse run on without him while he hid in a river. His pursuers passed him by and eventually he got out of the river and ran to a nearby homestead where he begged for dry clothes to help him on his way. The homesteadsers were so poor they only had the clothes they were wearing and the nightgown of the recently deceased mother of the lady of the house. Being both a clergyman and a virile gent, Witherspoon was very unhappy but his priority was signing the declaration so he made his way to Philadelphia in a flannel nightie, which led to him being called Goonie Jonny.
I can understand Rev Stu’s diatribes on the SNP whole heartedly, for not only how useless they are while feigning to be a National party,
but I extend this to all the parties sitting in the devolved from the treaty of union parliament, as they would all be aware that now sitting in a Scottish parliament that has its own authority to repeal its own Domestic laws,
Yet make no attempt to work those laws for the people of Scotland.while not being a parliament of Great Britain, unable to pass laws across the border to England or further.
With this in mind I also wonder why we select representative parties registered in England to a Scottish parliament,
James,
Because it’s not a Scottish Parliament.
It’s Westminster’s staging post. It’s an administration.
I wish Alex hadn’t changed it’s name because ppl think it’s a parliament when it isn’t. It’s subject to The Scotland Act, devolution settlement & an unelected Tory/Unelected Labour MP is given lordship as Secretary of State for Scotland title to oversee proceedings.
It’s a farce now that it’s been stripped of anything meaningful under Sturgeons watch & Brexshit. It’s a glorified talking shop now with morons tinkering with things they really have no authority to be tinkering with under a Westminster system.
At the UN Geneva the word is getting spread at last that Scotland isn’t a contented partner within the UK.
It is interesting to see that Douglas Chapman is part of the Liberation/Salvo group. It is a pity that he wasn’t higher in the SNP ranks when he was MP – he could have made a big difference to SNP attitudes.
Peter McAvoy,
Maybe cos Scotland had not realised that the Scottish parliament was dissolved from the treaty of union parliaments very early on.
Or that Scots were not asked to join the Treaty of union.
Or that The parliament of England continued, on its own, without the Scottish parliament, in a parliamentary union treaty with them,
Maybe because they did not realise that the agreement to share a monarch in the treaty of parliamentary union ended up with the monarch of England lending it Sovereignty to the parliament of England.
I would presume it was because ordinary people in Scotland did not have access to such recent information as they do now,
Only the politicians were in the know in them days,
It does not go unnoticed that nowadays they would prefer that the Scots remained ignorant of their past history and you will view for your self the attempts to close these topics down via one method or another,
The people here in Scotland will eventually fit the jigsaw pieces together and realise the contents of the box are not the same as the picture painted on the lid,
Well I just watched the Trump and Starmer Presser. I think I will apply for Asylum in America. A long way to go in a dinghy. So let’s do it properly. It’s got to be Montana for us. Horsey people you know. Daughter an Equine vet and so on. White Christian grandchildren. The alternative is an SNP /Green coalition for 5 years. And more social engineering. And a refusal to accept the Supreme Court Judgement on biological sex.
Private healthcare though, George. How much would your recent treatment have cost out there, and what would your health insurance premiums be with your health history.
Loads of guns out there, too, weapons that pretty much anybody can own with minimal vetting checks. Although they’re pretty harmless when in the hands of someone that opposes your views, as the above the line article highlights…
Then again, won’t the UN be setting us free by Christmas?
Chairman Murray will be back soon to tell us the good news.
I think a lot of attitudes are going to change between now and May. An awful lot. What happens in America always ends up here. The Gender madness started there and now after Charlie Kirk Americans are on the warpath against the whole Lefty ideology. The London event of peaceful people was a a wake up call for Britain.
Guardian Online is reporting that Jezza and the dried fruit bint have had a domestic. The new political party that never got so far as being named, now never will be.
Seemingly the dried fruit bint reckons Jezza isn’t antisemitic enough for her.
A fight over Straw and Carrots.
Guardian Online is reporting that the UN faces a $500 million budget cut and will have to shed 20% of its workforce (3000 jobs).
Seems like the US was shouldering the lion’s share of keeping the whole UN boondoggle afloat. Not surprisingly, the US has concluded that if they are to be the left wing’s eternal whipping boy, somebody else can dig deep.
I do like the Guardian. Just the other day, they interviewed this Afghan raghead who was bleating that US defunding of aid programmes had caused the death of his wife in childbirth. This was in Afghan land – not Luton.
You couldn’t make this stuff up.
This cut to the UN budget does that include the broom cupboard in Geneva? Because there’s some serious diplomatic shit happenin in there man!
The old ones are the best: ‘How many people work at the UN?’ ‘About half of them’.
@Dan 6:43pm
£9800 for a TURP in Scotland was my quote. I decided not to give it to them. (and of course it would have been the same surgeon) Fine if you can wait 2 and half years for an SNHS operation. Who do I thank for being elevated up the SNHS list a young A and E Doctor in Caithness, after my second acute retention incident whilst attending a funeral. His statement did not miss. We already have a privatised SNHS. Those that can pay for it and those that can’t. A two tier system. But none of our political class recognise the reality. My son an A and E Doctor has already emigrated.
Two Tier Keir. The political class are all singing from the same hymn sheet. It’s wake up time for a lot of Glaswegians with thousands of illegal immigrants here and thousands on the way. The troubled times are here.
Frankly George I wonder if some of our dimwit population care if there is a two tier health. system.
I listen to so much of the bull put out for and supped up by the moron class.
Thatcher’s peoples privatisation.Better Together. The most powerful devolved Parliament in the world. Brexit where Britain’s best year lie ahead. Oh a d since you were talking about the NHS I can’t forget about the big yellow bus that was going to come across the channel from Europe with tens of millions each and every week for the NHS.
Aye we bought it big time and now we enjoy the benefits.
At least we can all stay warm in our houses as we head towards winter.
@Willie
I don’t have the answers to the current situation but if the polls are correct then we are heading for 5 years of an SNP Green Coalition. Point 1 we have a £1.5 Billion current black hole in the Welfare system this year. Point 2 any elected Government in 2026 will inherit a £5 Billion pound black hole in public services finance 2026/2027.A poisoned chalice to those who get elected. Sometime the adults will take over. But not before they have ripped the gold wedding rings from me and the wife.
Having a not guilty verdict in a court of law doesn’t necessary mean innocence but could mean that there isn’t enough evidence to prove guilt. The Not proven verdict is a perfect alternative for cases in these scenario’s.
Given that the current push behind abolishing it is to increase rape convictions, only time will tell as whether rape convictions are increased or that these Not proven verdicts will turn into Not guilty verdicts.
I see that there is still US tariffs on Whisky.
I’ve got a feeling that Trump looked at Swinney at the state banquet and thought he was the comedy turn.
He never. He thought he was one of the staff.
I see that UK public sector broadcasters want legislation to force social media platforms like Youtube to give them more prominence in order to safeguard the “shared social fabric of the UK” as well as promoting accurate reporting and combat misinformation.
Oh, the irony of it 🙂
link to archive.is
Looks like the new party headed by Jeremy Corbyn isn’t doing too well with tales of unauthorised membership portals and “sexist boys’ clubs”
link to archive.is
This disgusting little man likes to lay wreaths for Terrorists.
The biggest terrorists on the planet are the English.
That’s a fact. “The British Empire – where the sun never set & the blood never dried” wasn’t coined for nuffink.
Even today, over in Nazi central, they’re conducting terrorist activities inside R. They love killing civilians. It makes them feel big & clever. Something about how the R ppl will suddenly have an epiphany & beg the West to remove Poot if they’re attacked. I kid you not – LMAO! Aye, that’ll happen. Not. Who dreams up this bullshit?
Let’s also remember all the evil dictators they’ve installed to do their dirty work for them & all their wee paid insurgents throughout the world running amok. Sure, one set is currently installed in Syria even tho the leader has a bounty on his head.
So do pipe down old chap.
You need to get over yourselves on who you’re calling terrorists cause yer in no position to be casting stones eh? What will Jesus think?
@ Barbie says: 18 September, 2025 at 9:20 pm
“The biggest terrorists on the planet are the English”
So what is it you’re claiming there? Are they all 6 foot 10 inches tall, or are you hinting at what they have in their trousers?
How wid ye ken? Dinna tell us ye’ve been fraternising wi the enemy, Barbs! Ye brazen wee hussy 🙂
Infiltrated already – it never takes long.
The establishment is renowned for getting where shit wouldn’t. She shouldn’t have unofficially launched a membership portal so she sounds off from the get-go & already sowing division.
They did the same with the 2nd ppls vote party over Brexit. Alba & SNP. The squabbling soon kicks off & the wheels fall off before it’s even started.
“The squabbling soon kicks off”
My! What kind of cant would behave like that? The mind boggles.
But surely you understand, Barbs, the dried fruit bint has split from Jezza cos he’s not antisemitic enough? Now he’s out of the way, her policies should be much more to your taste.
You should join. Tell her about your gas chambers fantasies and they might give you a fast-tracked promotion. Wear a keffiyeh for the Zoom interview.
From reading your posts on here, we can see you’re adept at digging holes. Mind and tell her that.
Geri
The biggest terrorist are the English..
True. They just give themselves a good press..
Well happy anniversary today of the Liberation of Haddington in 1549 after enormous English resources were piled into maintaining its increasingly beleaguered fort as some quasi-capital of an artificial Imperial Pale they were attempting to create in South East Scotland long after Mary Queen of Scots had escaped to safety in France.
A bit embarrassingly reminiscent of Britains withdrawal from Basra sheltered under the massive support of Uncle Sam, at Haddington the English sent an enormous (and ruinously expensive) army as a face saving exercise to retrieve the handful of its own plus the much more numerous continental mercenaries of the garrison that the English were increasingly employing as their own were no longer up for the job!
Raise a glass to ours!
“reminiscent of Britains withdrawal from Basra”
If only you had been there, eh? Things would have been so different!
1549 is an odd time to have a fight. It’s quite late in the afto – most people would be thinking about getting their tea soon.
The dried fruit bint is bleating that her pals, Westminster MPs Ayoub Khan, Shockat Adam, Iqbal Mohamed and Adnan Hussein, constitute a “sexist boys club”. She gurns that she has been “treated appallingly and excluded completely”.
My! It’s like she knows nothing of her own religion.
It’s like she is ignorant of how lippy, awkward women are treated by the medievalists of her community.
She should get out of her bubble and speak to the friends of some the lassies who have been slaughtered for “honour”. Or the wives who have been doused in paraffin and set alight for some transgression in the deranged mind of their husband.
Or the lassies whose “loving parents” have sent them on “holiday” to the old country, where some hag excises their lady bits with a razor blade.
I see ‘Bully boy alpha males’ that Sturgeon talks about is still in the SNP
link to archive.is
Hepburn was a very angry man when interviewed on TV today. A very, very angry man.
@ Geri at 8.49: It was planned to be on the 11th anniversary i.e. today 18.9.2025.
Thanks Sarah.
Jeez, I dunno what happened there where I went back a year thinking it was 2024. I wish I could go back a year..
Time flies. It doesn’t feel 11 yrs.
Same here, Geri!
Is it safe to come out yet or is the ginger man/baby still getting his arse kissed by those that live South of the wall? What a waste of money as 5 minutes after he leaves he will talk to someone else and do a 180 degree u turn. Highlight so far are the images of Trump, the ex Epstein and our very own randy Andy prince of the realm projected onto the gable end of Windsor castle. Donald Trump the man that makes Chamberlain look like a hardman and as for Keith Starmer the least said the better. We live in interesting times.
johnny the jobby, strikes again, with his bigmouth …
main is on the case, trying to do with quantity what his limited intellect will not permit with quality
– he is like a dog at a gate that just barks at everything, often for no reason.
I think what happens is – his carer turns up early (a nice indian lass), changes his nappy, gives him his ready-brek and then he gets to post all day, enriching us with his insight, wit, and all the other attributes he believes he possesses.
– still shilling for history’s greatest murderers and notorious liars, is he hasbara boy or just a shabbas goy?
The BBC is reporting that in Afghan land, all books written by women have just been banned from educational facilities.
It doesn’t matter what the subject is, whether fiction or non-fiction, if a woman wrote it, then it’s banned.
Women aren’t supposed to know anything. They defo can’t know that some women know so much they can write books. So these books must be banned to avoid setting bad examples.
They’re defo heading in the direction of their founders. When the Muslims overran the Great Library of Alexandria, the most comprehensive collection ever in existence of the written works of the ancient world, they burned the lot.
After consideration, they concluded that all any man needed to know was written in the Koran. Logically therefore, all other books were superfluous and could only distract from the “truth”. So burn them.
Women didn’t need to know anything, not even how to read.
SEE WHERE YOU’RE COMING FROM but the burning of the library in circa 642AD is now considered as unlikely. The Great Library, Mouseion and Serapeion were in decline even before the Romans annexed Egypt and suffered numerous fires then and later during the Palmyrene invasion in 272 AD.
Alexandria was a provincial backwater in the Roman Empire by then. There also were other libraries in the city which may have contained copies of the GL’s stock.
Fanatical Christian mobs are also credited with burning the GL another unlikely story; part of the productive tales and myths surrounding the life of the philosopher Hypatia.
Hmmm.
Egypt was the granary of the Roman Empire.
All of its agricultural surplus, critical to the feeding of the Roman masses, was shipped through Alexandria, the largest and most important port city of the Mediterranean.
Some backwater! But perhaps we’re arguing at cross purposes about different eras.
The inescapable fact is that ever since their start, the Muslims have form. Destroying what went before is their default mode. We’ve seen it recently with them dynamiting the great Buddha statues.
There’s an online article I read just today about them bulldozing the archeologically important remains in Yemen.
That’s what “Year 0” zealots, fanatically convinced that they alone possess all truth, always do.
Circa 642AD the person in charge of the library in question was a Woman. The people involved in the destruction of the said library were not Christian but could be categorised by the modern term ‘ilegal immigrants’ Looking further into the events that happened, there’s evidence that the destruction was part of a wider trouble that was engulfing the whole area at the time. Reference to ‘the invaders from the sea’ can be found in Egyptian archives.
Please can someone post a link to the transcript of Salvo’s decolonisation session at the UN. It has a habit of disappearing from Facebook.
Here it is. ‘Can we get independence please’?……….. ‘No…. now fuck off’ Did you honestly expect anything else?
Anyone else come across a US attack on a Venezuelan boat in international waters? Trump stated that 11 people were killed no US servicemen were hurt and folk should take heed of what happens when they decide to run drugs into the US of A.
Strangely the Venezuelan government didn’t like this action and are bristling with indignation.
There is no mention of whether or not the boat was indeed doing a drugs run.
I do not remember any report of this on any news but then I watch MSM news so rarely that I may have missed an in depth report – and the band played……
MS-13 are the target of the US. There is talk of regime change in Venezuela. The MSN is no longer relevant in news people seek.
Yes & there are reports of another.
Completely illegal & the drugs narrative is bullshit. They haven’t even apprehended anyone to even find out what’s onboard. They’re 1,000 miles from the USA too in international waters. The yanks want their hands on the largest oil fields & I doubt there’ll be regime change cause of who their friends are these days. They can’t stop Chinese tankers buying it which is circumvented the yanks illegal sanctions & they’re getting pissed…
Drill Baby Drill.
Look further into MS-13. Then the shoot on sight policy makes sense.
MS-13 makes Hamas look like Boy Scouts.
BEHOLD!
England has seen the Second Coming, heard the Last Trump and is entering a messianic age of American Investment alias A.I.
Amen, Amen, Amen, The Lord hath visited his people and found them ready, willing and desperate.
Blessed be the Name of the Lord!
There’s a war on, TURABDIN. Anybody who knows history knows no country at the sharp end comes through a war without cataclysmic change.
Despite the best efforts of those few who continue to insist that Scotland is “special”, we’re not. It will turn Scotland upside down as it is turning the rest of the world upside down.
The Scotland of 1913 was a foreign country to the survivors in the Scotland of 1919.
The Scotland of 1946 was radically different to the Scotland of 1938.
And so it goes. The Scotland of 2021 ain’t coming back. Neither is the Scotland of 2014, that momentous year that for Geri, is always a decade ago.
It’s a crying shame that this place isn’t a serious forum for debate and discussion. If it were, we could be exploring how Scotland needs to adapt to the harsh realities of the ever expanding war, soon to be entering its fifth year. With the second front, opened up by poot’s allies, the medievalist lassie torturers and killers, soon to be entering its third.
Then we have the unholy triumvirate of poot, xi and the obese slanty one, actively planning to dismantle and destroy everything on which our elevated, entitled comfort, prosperity and tranquility relies.
Interesting times!
Hatey McHateface says:
19 September, 2025 at 9:59 am
“There’s a war on, TURABDIN. Anybody who knows history knows no country at the sharp end comes through a war without cataclysmic change.”
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That is an arguably true for a belligerent.
Does being a cheerleading bit-player for a one-time US proxy, now abandoned by Trump, qualify YOOKAY as a belligerent?
Not only that, but also “at the sharp end”?
Do you actually believe ANY of this?
Speaking of wars, I see uncle Vlad’s fly-boys had a little visit to Estonian airspace today, with 3 MiG-31 fighters flying north of Tallinn for 12 minutes with their transponders turned off.
All quite innocent I’m sure. Although it’s the fifth incursion this year…so looks a bit like a pattern huh?
Interestingly when they tried the same over Turkish airspace a few years ago, the Turks shot the intruder down and there have been zero violations since.
Perhaps that’s what happens when small, independent countries with no air force of their own have to rely on NATO allies who are already too craven to do what they should.
Doubtless all those who insist an independent Scotland should be neutral like Ireland are intensely relaxed about MiGs in our airspace….
@Andy Ellis
“….3 MiG-31 fighters flying north of Tallinn for 12 minutes with their transponders turned off.
All quite innocent I’m sure. Although it’s the fifth incursion this year…so looks a bit like a pattern huh?”
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Indeed.
But a pattern of what? Real events or propaganda? If these were real then the Americans will know about them. If so, why are Trump’s Neocon enemies (in both parties, but especially the Democrats) not beating the war drums?
Assuming they actually happened (and never forget the first casualty of war); also the footage of drone damage over Poland is authentic then the pattern is extremely worrying.
I don’t think the Lord deals with investments over 10 years. That’s pants! He could turn water intae wine instantly. He’s making them wait. Maybe he’s trying to help punt some shares or something before he changes his mind, again. It’s a neat trick he’s been pulling lately…
Ephesians 6:12
Put on the whole armour of God, that ye me be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
It was all a ghastly mistake.
The 11 boys in the Venezuelan boat were out searching for injured dolphins and lost salmon.
They intended no more than to take the injured dolphins to the vet, and to turn the salmon around and point them at their spawning grounds.
But now they’re deid and the Trump fascist regime is doubling down on the error by pretending it prioritises the health and well being of decent US citizens over the “human rights” of drug dealing, predatory scum.
In the USA Harvard University removes policies protecting trans athletes. The Trump administration wants to expand this to other universities across America.
When you write “protecting”, I assume you refer to it previously being illegal to point at some hulking bloke, towering over the lassies in positions 2 and 3 on the podium, and shout out “Hey everybody, the so-called winner is actually a man”.
It’s great that President Trump has had the guts to take on these, violent repressive, misogynistic fantasists.
Does anybody know if Scotland will be developing her own Trumpalike any time soon? We have the same violent repressive, misogynistic fantasists warping public discourse in Scotland.
Does anybody know if the US intends to strip all the fake females of their medals, prizes and records, re-write the history books to show the true results of the actual women who took part in the affected sporting events, award the stolen medals and prizes to the women who were cheated out of what was rightly there’s, and compensate them to boot?
Because that should be the next phase of sorting this out.
Once that’s done, perhaps President Trump could start to come after all the nonentities, fuckwits and grievance mongers whose DEI-enabled hiring put them into positions where they could right royally screw over everybody else.
We’re hoaching with them in Scotland too. Time to drain the swamp and throw them on minimum benefits. Starting with the fuckwits in Hollyrood who look their constituents in the eye and say they don’t know if they’re a man or a woman, then working down from there. All the way down to the HR And DEI Manager in your local SNHS cottage hospital.
The International Left Wing have been focusing on individuals using the,
‘Pick em off one at a time’
strategy. Targeting individuals. There are 30 arrests a day in the UK over hate thought’!!
While failing to comprehend the tidal wave that has been unleashed and heading straight towards them in the whole of the West. Not just here and the US. All over Europe, Australia,New Zealand and Canada.
We are living at the turn of history. Our generation are the best equipped in experiencing change since I don’t know when.
When is this site goiong ot get back to talking about independence? Salvo and Liberation just had a great reception at the UN. This is the only game in town at the moment, so I am a bit disappointed that there is no article on it as yet.
Mr Vileda is just mopping up a few loose ends and will report presently; Henry is hoovering up the last remaining items. Between them, they’ve Pledge(d) to polish the final deliverable before the new broom comes next week.
Yeah, Stuey is renowned for his fixation on and full throated support for “cunning plans for indy” (TM)……
….No, wait…..the other thing! 🙂
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but incredibly, Scotland has not been declared independent by the UN.
Notwithstanding, though, the UN team station kitchenette worktops have never sparkled so brightly as now, so there is that. Every cloud.
It’s more than you’ve done eh?
You’re “cunning plan for indy” is to have the whole wide world, including war criminals, genocidal apologists, nazi apologists, colonisers, pedo ppl traffickers, democracy deniers & the English blow-ins, otherwise known as the Wests “international community of Hypocrites” have a say & a vote on Scotlands status.
That’s special.
Over at the UN it can only be win, win for Alf & Co. If we’re a colony after all then we move to the decolonisation department. If we’re not, we’re off with a referendum & as many referendums as we like.
What’s you’re contribution? Fck all but a blow-in spoiler. The UN, & Europe, has had about enough of meddling Blow-ins of late & blow-in colonisers. Nationalism is back by popular demand.
@”Geri”
So, you got “hee haw” at the UN.
Imagine my surprise mate.
LOL.
The chuckle brothers appear to have decided that WoS BTL is their personal playground where they can tag-team each other into ensuring anything of note disappears under an avalanche of putrification.
Pity really, but you only have to scroll up and glance at the names for confirmation.
It is not the ‘chuckle brothers’-it is actually triplets- Cheyne, Geri and Confused are the greatest peddlers of crap to be found on Wings. If you would post some more Rab you could possibly make it a quartet! Mind you, you would have to post an awful lot of shite AND post it umpteen times every day.
Where’s Alf ?
I’ve been desperately waiting to hear how he and his legal team Fanon & Cesaire International secured independence for Scotland at the UN yesterday !
Insider @ 15.12.
Doubtless awaiting the final, deciding argument from Memmi.
How very dare you disrespect the Gospel of the Doun Hauden and the only true prophets of Wewuzrobbedism, the blessed Fanon, Cesaire, Memmi and their Pontifex His Reverence Alf!
For shame, lest ye be forced to recite the Gospel according to Alf in broad Lallans until you discover your inner Braveheart.
That’s what Alf has been doing here, I wonder what caused that punishment
how’s the subtack doing?
tit
“do people know who you are in your own house”
LMAO!
Alf is apparently boring the tits off some poor buggers at the UN. One of the minions at the august organisation stated he had the best sleep ever………………during Alfie Boy’s presentation!
Looks very much like Alf Baird and the team’s approach to the UN has caused concern with the unionist trolls.
Their pejorative personal attacks on Prof Baird very much h confirm that.
And you know what, there is more to come. The well developed UN decolonisation approach has been well researched and many countries are well disposed to Scotland and its plight.
The British Empire is a busted flush with a collapsing economy and countries around the world know it.
the only thing worse than being talked about
– is not being talked about
you can use that chas, I just made it up right there
chas chas chas – the weakling and runt of the yoon shill litter … there is the main man with his demonic yoon fuckwittery, then ellis playing the bolloxiste, impersonating an “expert on international relations”, but chas … I just don’t have any words for you, it’s like, you’re nothing, just zero, less than zero; do people know who you are in your own house?
what you lads need to do – ellis and main – is bare your breasts, get some of those tranny hormones down you and let chas suckle on you, make him big and strong, to one day be a real boy, he just needs a “dad”, 2 gay dads, then one day he can mess with rest of us, with the stabilisers off
insider, that’s a newish one – “inside of what” … some dude’s butthole, or a public lav with your balloon knot pressed up against the gloryhole?
“le vice anglais” – we all know what you english lads are into
At least he is doing something.
You lot?
Nah, thought not.
What’s your back story Chick?
Blow-in, supporter of the Kings eleven, Tory voter, Labour supporter, marcher, or just plain English?
As I said, at least he is doing something, not just carping from the sidelines.
Maybe you should try it sometime as opposed to (presumably) just supporting the Scotland footie team for 90 minutes max “patriotism” at occasional times?
Police confirm that out of the 25 arrests on Saturday at the Unite the Kingdoms march which estimates 250,000 people attended.17 of them were Left Wing activists.
Off Topic.
Just been reported that SNP(now former) Minister Jamie Hepburn has resigned from his position in the devolved administration following an allegation he physically assaulted and swore at the Conservative MSP Douglas Ross.
So one SNP resigns and wee Dug gets a slap.
I would call that a Win Win situation.
More fool him. But that’s the standard of the Nancy boy culture of the pretend parliament.
Ooh!, he was awful.
“Things would have been different if I had been there”..
Not necessarily, however;
When I was in the mob you counted our tanks in hundreds (now it’s dozens) and aside from the Aden debacle (before my time) we were in active service areas in force.
As for BAOR; The Germans were still under a shame legacy, the US forces were an unconfident joke post Vietnam and we certainly wouldn’t need them to chaperone us in or out of any hot spot.
Not now. The forces have since been diluted, and insufficient numbers deployed to do the job properly in active service locations and effectively merely being pointlessly placed in harms way.
Not that you would appreciate that from the comfort of your armchair though..
Ther scarce be a wird pit doun here fae colonialists that’s onythin’ ither than abuise, threit, lie, errure, afftak, diversioun, distractioun, logicale fallace, or hatesome antiScot rethorik
Here be the same sentiment in thon Ingle tongue:
There’s barely a comment posted here by colonialists that’s anything other than insult, threat, lies, error, mockery, diversion, distraction, logical fallacy, or hateful anti-Scots rhetoric.
Mercifu God! The Scots toung is gey fayr bonnie and brawlyk is it no?
Aye, an some wid say, an say ower an ower agin tae, thon Ingle toung is truelins ougly an up its ain erse in compair o’ Scots?
But no me… a wid niver say onythin sae rudelyk aboot the Ingle – wha is, efter aw, oor beluvit halsoum soothern neebour; may The Awmichtie bliss thaim ane an aw… if He be ersed. (In Scots this kind o’ sentiiment be cawed jamph)
I love the way you provide an English translation for your incomprehensible posts.
A smart person would … ach, never mind.
@ Willie 5.39pm Yes the Scotland haters are out in force wi the franchise fanny and wee chas self proclaimed supposed indy supporters getting the boot in, what glee was had , corporal shit for brains is wetting himself trying to get cleaning jokes in, Sven another one who claims to support indy crawling up the insiders crack, what a shower of pathetic shitehawks
Northcode & Twathater
I Couldn’t have put it better myself.
“Couldn’t have put it better myself”
Hey, Barbie’s right!
twatface @ 6:47
So WHAT are the details of the UN declaration then ?
What is our independence date ?
Please tell us !
And why isn’t this on all the news bulletins ?
IF you’re Scottish yir nothing but a cringing unionist arsewipe, if you’re NOT its got fuck all to do with you
Why don’t all you Scotland haters go on to the FRANCHISE FANNY’S website and ye can all have a wee circle jerk
OH deary me what am I thinking the FRANCHISE FANNY’S website has had to shut down because naebody was interested in his BORING SELF PROCLAIMING PISH
Because it has really just started, and not as some of your fellow commentators have suggested as being knocked back or dead in the water.
Why didn’t/ haven’t you read the link further up to understand whats been said and the stage it currently sits at?
While it hasn’t, it would be disgraceful if it got knocked back.
Bad enough that it could happen without you so clearly wishing it so!
You’re glorious England would never subject itself to this, while being content to write the rules as it goes along claiming spurious superiority through a non existent constitution..
THE GLINNER UPDATE: ‘The Town Criers and the Gooners: Another marriage made in hell.’
(GRAHAM LINEHAN, SEP 18, 2025)
« Every last Kirk video, as far as I can make out, and every testimonial from black, gay, or even trans-identified people, reveals a man who treated others with the utmost respect, and possessed a recall of detail not seen since Martin Sheen’s presidency. They couldn’t beat his arguments, they couldn’t demoralise him with insults, they couldn’t shame him into silence. They killed him not because he was a bigot, but because he wasn’t one. They couldn’t make anything stick, so they stuck a bullet in him. »
link to grahamlinehan.substack.com
‘Trans activism – the hill the left decided to die on ‘
What future do trans have if the law is changed by the dreaded right wing (a dread they truly deserve) and the EHRC and DEI are scrapped.
There has been so much harm done by the whole dynamic of this Lefty ideology. The Police are caught up in this like all other government bodies.
We are not America but what is happening there will happen here. Just like RocknRoll and Stand up Comedy. It’s Pay Back time according to some commentators.
There’s no one more up to their neck in it than the Scottish parliament and the Civil service mafia.
(if your enemies praise you, then you must be doing something -wrong- )
I see a lot of snide mockery from the usual suspects on here regarding the presentation to the UN.
– no one has unrealistic expectations, no one expected miracles, but it accomplishes something – it puts the idea “out there”, into the public mind. The UK no longer gets to control the narrative about “what happens indoors” (yes, my wife is very happy … “black eye” ) to the rest of the world. It is just one move, in what will be a long process.
Does anyone ever think that some complex task will be achieved by pressing a magic button? No, they don’t. And bear in mind, almost all of the things you try, will not work, but it is all the more important to eliminate them.
And as for “strategy”, the best one to have is to have – many of them. Something, works partially, then you move a little, then something else – you have no idea of the sequence from the outset to get to the finish. Plus the whole thing is a reactive, adaptive, game – you move, the opponent counters, and so on. You never know where you end up – any of you folks chess players? A relatively simple game that leads to mind boggling complexities.
This “unwritten constitution” we have, is a piece of shit, that allows the powerful to “do what they want” and then cite as “precedent” any fucking thing they like, and if anyone disagrees, you drag out some paedo in wig to spew some nonsense. We need light shone on the dark corners, to clarify; as I said before, it is live, for if it isn’t we are an “occupied country” with nothing legal to hold us; if the treaty is live, then we have rights under it, and any breaches of that treaty have consequences – at present the “rights under the treaty” have as much integrity as a contract with a timeshare company registered in northern Cyprus. If not “partners in a union”, we are a colony, and then we have the UN. One way, or another, we have a route out of this thing, but it is the ambiguity which kills you.
The shills on here are great supporters of the gangster state and I am sure they will appreciate the sophisticated multilayered strategy they used to establish “their country” – everything from bribery and corruption to assassination, murder, terrorism and massacre. But this is alright when you are “God’s chosen people” (- maybe He was only joking).
Whenever there is something valuable – and Scotland is – you never get anyone just “stand aside” because “its the right thing to do”; or “play the game fairly” – no you have to expect opposition and dirty tricks and tr3achery at all times – this is the FUCKING ENGLISH we are dealing with; they started out as pirates, got into the counterfeiting and usury, then proceeded to loot the entire fucking world by strolling in and playing off the WigaWoos against the WagaWoos, and occasionally shooting with guns, people armed with spears.
– these people are CUNTS, i.e. narcissistic psychopaths at the genetic level and they will never play fair unless they are forced to, and given how a major western state still pisses on, in terms of hard power, the indy movement, we need external actors to counteract this. And this is the same across all history – the americans when they wanted to “take the franchise solo”, they had big help from France and even Rusha.
We neeed “hauners” from somewhere.
Getting this to the UN shows a levelling up in terms of sophistication – what else is there? Waiting for the SNP to fucking do something and then for the english to – bizarrely and unprecedentedly – just voluntarily let england get “fucked over” in the process; mind England is “over populated and under resourced” – all our “stuff” is already factored into the spreadsheet for when England has to balance its budget; they want 40GW of windpower for a start, all to feed the AI boom in the SOUTH EAST. Scotland “going out the door” is “money they have already spent”.
So, you need to read, and start learning from all the anti imperialist struggles of the past and – yes – the authors you may encounter may be Fanon etc, though if you want you could try the Turner Diaries as well – I don’t care, as long as you learn something.
We all loved Alex; he was a true centrist and could reach many people, and he nearly got us there – it was a positive message – a loose franchise, multiculti, new scots, jock tamsons bairns, a free fair vote and off we go … a “velvet divorce” and we will still be “best pals” with the english (just don’t talk about football) …
– I think that was optimistic and looking back – a bag of shite. Here is what I think would have happened had we “won” (we did, but that is another story) : the English would have very quickly backtracked on it, said it was “advisory” and then proceeded to gum up the works for the next decade or so in “constitutional discussions” at the end of which we would be offered some “reheated shite” like devo max, or federalism, or a cut of the oil money … they simply would not have honoured the agreement. Why would they? How could they?? In any case history tells us they always “take a shit” when they leave; they try to carve of areas as military protectorates, or have a “unified army”, there is no end of bullshit they would pull.
There is a reason why our middle class -detest- this “c0l0nised” narrative because, essentially they are themselves, racists … let me explain : if we were colnised (conned, scammed, taken over), then it means we, the Scots, are really just a bunch of “white n1ggers” – and that is something they cannot handle, and you see it in how they behave, the desperate “anglo scots”. For the majority people of Scotland that you are a de-facto WN, does not come as much of a shock.
The Scots are up against the English, immigrants from England, immigrants from random shitholes around the globe, political tricksters and shills who would draw us into southern “wars” or have us vote for vermin like “reform”, plus their own tr4itrous middle class, half Anglo, half devo, and all for their own advantage crying the battle cry of the middle class everywhere
I’VE GOT A GOOD JOB – THE SYSTEM WORKS
while making great display of their moral goodness (virtue signalling, fake piety) about things that do not matter, causes they have no influence on : “save the gay badgers of trans nistria”
I don’t fancy our chances much, but – the future is unwritten and it is intrinsically unpredictable, and if you think “I have it locked down … “- then you don’t.
Alf and Craig and Sara and all the rest of them, allow us a little hope, and sometimes that is all you need.
Confused – well said.
Get busy living or get busy dying.
The naysayers are institutionalised feckwits or they’re blow-ins who think Scotland is their possession cause they know they’d be a nobody on their own.
Confused
A classic post; one of the best here ever surmising the whole wretched situation we live with and the Brit Nat troll pond life, pretendy lawyers and past their expiry date Brit Gnat politico “commentators” on here every single day in a oner!
Hat off to you, well done, very well done!
Expect bottom drawer quality ripostes of smart aR8e double speak, Scottish hating and self loathing cringers because you have summed up the opposition to a T..
Well done.
Call them and the whole situation out for what it is. The current crop off useless gofers in power in HR won’t last forever..
Confused a very precise exposure of the unionist fuckwits INFESTING this site, the cringing middle class wannabe engerlish who suck up all the derision and insults because they think it doesn’t include them, “Breaking News” cringers you will NEVER be engerlish you will always just be a SWEATY SOCK to them no matter how desperate you are
As for the engerlish unionists “Breaking News”
there has NEVER been a UNION it was as usual an engerlish takeover with threats of VIOLENCE and INTIMIDATION where our tr@ itorous cringing aristos rolled over and sold out Scotland
Shut up and eat your porridge there’s a nice colonist.
Grouse Beater: GENEVA MINUTES
« Confederate Indy campaigners took our “decolonisation” campaign to Geneva today. They were there to convince UN members that there is no doubting Scotland is a colony of England, rather than half of a mythical political union.
« Sharof Azizov, of JPTI (Justice pour Tous Internationale) was the first to speak on our behalf. Two members, Professor Alfred Baird, and KC Robert Black made their submission by Zoom television screen. Ailsa Gray, lawyer attended, and Alex Thorburn, activist, with Professor Mark McNaught and David Henry representing SSRG. [Also Sara Salyers]
« Here are the Minutes of Thursday 18th September, 2025 – the meeting opened at 08.30.»
link to grousebeater.wordpress.com
I was there in person. This was far too important an event and opportunity in the Scottish national interest to miss.
“We are denied independence, not only by Westminster, but by our independence parties.”
A trick by Colonisers that the UN is all too familiar with.
Aided and abetted by the wannabe engerlish cringers who would sell out their country for a nod from their MAISTERS, I could have respect for someone who actually believed that remaining within this despicable situation with their abusers was the only choice they had but to openly celebrate and deride persons who are doing their best to improve THEIR situation shows a despicable level of self abuse and ignorance
My!
I’ve never seen such a formation gathering of potty-mouthed primary school insults from the usual suspects on here before.
I’m gonna have to look more closely at yesterday’s news. Find out what fantasy balloon got pricked. There has to be something that caused all of that to kick off.
Special mensh to Confused, who has excelled himself in getting down in print all of his most vivid homo-erotic fantasies. You really should just get out and about, meet some “friendly” boys, and act out your dreams, Confused. You’ll feel so much better, it’s not illegal, and nobody will judge you.
Ummm, maybe they will if you keep wanging oan aboot it on here!
You’d have to have a heart of stone not to laugh at all the (4am) wailing and gnashing of teeth, Hatey. 😀
I’m just glad to see Geri back. It wouldn’t be Wings without some barely literate bloviating occupant of the state hospital warning us about the imminent collapse of the west, and singing the praises of failed states like Burkina Faso.
“I’m just glad to see Geri back”
Wow, not something you hear very often 😀
Bastard tax Moan you seem to see references to deviant sex and perversions in any and all replies to your 77th brigade pish,I think you are quite comfortable nay extremely happy that the poisoned dwarf invited all you cross dressers and self abusers to come out of the cupboard, what does your fellow troops think about you wandering about in yir mammies dresses
SALVO/LIBERATION SCOTLAND ARE PRO ACTIVE.
Whatever one might think of the UN’s capabilities in such matters these actors are demonstrating to that supposedly counter colonialist/imperialist body that the Scots are an ethnicity with an ancient sense of nationhood similar to those ex imperial territories now occupying places in the UN itself.
Such assertive pro activity ought to be part of the political strategy of the National party.
Insightful comment from Sandy Allan in The National:
“I personally felt that the statements read to the UN & hopeful passed on to the requisite UN Officials was a modern interpretation of the Declaration of Arbroath.”
link to thenational.scot
Breaking News!!
Scottish government in diplomatic row with Kubala over border dispute. The Kubalan government makes claim over wooded area citing their ancestral 400 year old claim. President Trump sends Mickey Mouse to calm the volatile situation. The Department of Works and Pensions sends benefits for the thousands trapped in war torn field. Greta Thunderkeg sails with her tug boats to break the sanctions…more news to follow….
…..Police Scotland sends two very confused constables to look very concerned and in control of the situation.
SCOTLAND, care to swap with us?
link to hrwf.eu
The big G. not actually hiding in plain sight.
Thank you. Enlightening article. Eg
« In Syria, Assyrian schools have been forcibly shut down, further erasing Assyrian cultural and linguistic heritage. Assyrians are trapped between two oppressive education systems: the central Syrian curriculum, which includes Sharia law and is banned by the Autonomous Administration of North and East Syria (AANES), and the Kurdish-imposed AANES curriculum, which promotes historical revisionism, glorifies terrorism, lacks accreditation, and advances Kurdish nationalist ideology. »
The Scots are in an enviable position they can reclaim there «birthright».
Sadly, the reputation of the Scots in the Mid East received a nasty blow when that referendum didn’t deliver.
The world has changed considerably since then.
Sharia law has no place in a civilised country.
That’s colonialism for you. They use proxies & warring factions.
It my understanding that the government was offered assistance from three major players (four if we want to be generous & include Erdogan even tho he’s a serial double crosser) & declined the offer thinking they’d maybe be best aligning with the West for a quiet life. That was a fatal mistake because the West aren’t honest brokers & Yahoo had already given warning it was one of its seven for his greater plans because they want a pipeline to control Europes energy.
They stripped of resources & sanctions & syphoned off the oil & agriculture until it unfortunately couldn’t sustain itself any longer & collapsed.
Scotland is in the same position, only minus the bloodshed. They’re only a little more civilised (for now) because we’re directly in the colonisers demeaning description of “backyard” like we’re a possession.
We’ve no control over our resources, we’ve no defense, & we’ve no one external offering us help. The continued circle of going round & round in a domestic setting leading to nowhere because anything good or any advance for indy will be captured & steered off course by bad actors or yet another man made drama of the Wests making.
I don’t hold out much hope under this current system. Those of us who follow geopolitical news know the UN, ICJ & ICC are just completely captured organisations doing the Wests bidding & the so called “International community” are a bunch of war hawks who couldn’t give a shit about ethnic cleansing or democracy either.
I’ve more hope for Syria tho. It’ll return to its former status one day but it won’t be under the West influence but under Asia’s & BRICS.
I think you should focus on controlling your emotions before you indulge in Geopolitics.
The National have put up “Live from the UN” on utube with Hamish Morrison. So unbelievably bad it’s insulting and shameful. Hamish Morrison is ill informed and muddled. Surely the National should be on the side of independence??
Don’t be daft MaryB , the Herald just saw a chance to cash in AFTER the referendum so invented the wee National.
That said I still have the first one with Alasdair Grays front page – stopped buying it in week 3.
Guid day tae aw ma fellow Scots and Picts oan here.
Aye, and guid day as weel tae aw ye Inglis and Scottis Inglis wannabes wha loiter aboot this place – may the divine auspices o’ the weekend smile upo ye.
Sincerity haes nae richt tae be pit sincerely in sic a context as theis – but guid manners be the path tae God; reflectin’ love, respect and kindness as thay dae.
Hou-and-iver aw that divinity micht be pit, it haes tae be sayd that the mockery o’ an indigenous people’s language is a particularly nasty form of racism.
It often presents itself on this place in the shape of antiScot rhetoric. Rhetoric readily observed in the comments posted here by some of those Inglis – and perhaps, tae, some o’ thay Scots wha sae desperately dream o’ castin’ aff thair Scots heritage in fauvour o’ a lesser yin – wha float aboot this place seekin’ the attention of older and wiser souls.
You forgot the Irish. How rude is that?
Naw he didna. In earlier times the ‘Irish’ were Scots; and the ‘Scots’ were Picts.
The Romans referred to Ireland as “Scotia” around 500 A.D., and the people here as Picts, hence Pictavia.
Duffy, Seán. Medieval Ireland: An Encyclopedia. Routledge, 2005.
Northcode,
You of course fail to mention Gaelic, the actual language of the historic eponymous Scots. As a Q-Celtic language, Gaelic was closely related to P-Celtic Pictish. The syntax of Scottish Gaelic was apparently influenced by Pictish, this being one marker of differentiation from Irish Gaelic. There are a number of loanwords from Pictish in Gaelic.
James IV was probably our last king proficient in Gaelic. The term “Scots” was snaffled and reappropriated in the 16th century by Gavin Douglas (c 1475-1522). In the 16th Century Inglis prevailed around the Court as “our awin langage” and began to be called “Scottis” to distinguish it from Sudroun (Southern English, or English English). Cf a few lines of Gavin Douglas from the Prologue to his translation of The Aeneid –
“As that I culd, to make it braid and plain.
Kepand nae sudroun, but our awin langage,
and speakis as I learit when I was page…
Nor yet sae clean all sudroun I refuse,
but sum word I pronunce as nichtbour does;
Like as in Latin been Greek termes sum,
So me behuvit whilom, or than be dum,
Sum bastard Latin, French, or Inglis oiss, (oiss=use)
Whar scant were Scottis I had nae uther choiss”
So in his apologia here, Douglas (Gaelic “Dubh Ghlas”, “Black Water”) explains that rather than “be dum” if he lacks a word in “Scottis” (ie the Scottish variant of northern Anglo-Saxon) he has felt himself justified in his use (oiss) of some form of Latin, French or (Southern) English.
The irony is that this literary virtuoso with the Gaelic name must have rubbed shoulders almost daily with Gaelic-speakers. He almost certainly (as the gifted linguist he was, not to mention in his office as Bishop of Dunkeld) would have been able, at the very least, to “get by” in Gaelic himself. Yet now when his “awin langage” of Inglis/Scottis fails him, it seems he has “nae uther choiss” than recourse to one of the three languages he mentions. Gaelic (speech of the “Scots” for millenia before him) is not on his mental map! (Of course the Edinburgh Government soon became determined to extirpate Gaelic from ALL maps, – cf the Statutes of Iona, 1609).
The essential point in all this is that what you wrote above it is has no linguistic relation whatsoever to Pictish. Please do internalise that reality. You are writing in a branch of Germanic, as Billy Kay himself makes clear in ‘Scots: The Mither Tongue’ –
link to wingsoverscotland.com
Apology for typo garble. First sentence of last paragraph should properly read:
“The essential point in all this is that what you wrote above has no linguistic relation whatsoever to Pictish.”
As always, Fearghas MacFhionnlaigh, a masterful demolition of NC and his self-invented witterings.
You won’t stop him continuing, of course. Nor Professor Baird neither.
But we all need to be clear that their lunatic plans to force us all to be talking and writing in a language that has no place in modern Scotland isn’t going to happen. And setting aside all the practical reasons why not, it’s also not going to happen because their claims are based on falsehoods.
“The essential point in all this is that what you wrote above has no linguistic relation whatsoever to Pictish.”
Read again what I wrote (maybe take aff the obvious anti-Scot specs this time) and it will be seen that I made no such correlation between the Scots leid as I write it here – and as it is described in the Dictionaries of the Scots Language – and the language of the ancient Picts:
Not much is known about the ancient Picts beyond speculation and guesswork, for they left behind no written records of their own nor any significant trace of their language.
However, the ordinary Pict almost certainly did not speak the language of the Scotti – those Irish folk whose language was a form of Gaelic and who populated the west coast of what is now Scotland, but was before their arrival known as Pictavia, the land of the Picts.
The Dictionaries of the Scots Language tells us this:
There are other borrowings into Scots from such non-Germanic languages as French, Gaelic (obviously), and Latin.
Peoples mix over time and languages evolve; influenced by their contact with other peoples and their languages.
Scots, as the DSL tells us: “… is a distinctive language, divergent from English since at least the fourteenth century.”
The Scots leid, where it has arrived at now, is the language of those peoples who merged centuries past – the Irish Scotti (Gaelic speaking) and the Pictavian Picts (naebody nou really knaws whit langage thay spaik?) – to become a single people known as the Scots of Scotland, but could just as easily been called the Picts of Pictavia.
The predominant language claimed to be spoken by modern Scots between Scots and Gaelic is Scots(43%).
Gaelic is spoken by a tiny 0.23% (less than one quarter of one percent) of Scots and yet receives far greater attention and support from the Scottish Government than it merits (colonial jiggery-pokery at work there).
So there it is; I write in the Scots leid at times on here. I cannot speak or write in Pictish fir naebody knaws whit langage thay, the Picts, my ancient ancestors, spaik.
I know this, though – I am a Scot come frae a lang line o’ Scots wha came frae the Picts wha came frae… naebody really knaws; iron age fermers maist lyk efter the ice meltit.
Maisterfu demoleetion ma erse… an essential point that wis essentially pointless yont petty pedantics richt frae the stert; juist mair o’ the same auld anti-Scots rethorik ettlin tae disgyse itsel as genuine argument.
Hi Northcode. No problem at all with you writing in the language you want to write in.
Calling it “Scots” does irk me, but that is certainly not your fault as it is a long-established and no doubt irreversible practice in Scotland, as my reference to Gavin Douglas confirmed.
You and Alf have certainly given the impression that you believe by writing in “Scots” you are expressing a Pictish identity. My mistake if I got that wrong.
There is a profound irony, by the way, in you telling me to “take aff the obvious anti-Scot specs”, when you your and Alf habitually “other” the Gaels who speak the language of the original Scots which I relentlessly defend.
There is a further irony in hearing voluble anti-colonialists dismiss Gaels because of their limited demographic, when that historic marginalisation glaringly testifies to the success of their colonialist persecution to near extinction, and not least by speakers of the language you call “Scots”. The Gaels refer to this as “Mì-rùn mòr nan Gall” (The deep malice of the Lowland-speaker”).
And a final irony is that anyone truly interested in voicing Pictishness would certainly not look to Germanic speech but rather to related living Celtic languages like Welsh and Gaelic whose words pepper the Scottish map. Alf of course famously dismissed such extensive Gaelic placenaming — with a beyond final irony — as being just what one would expect from murderous imperialists like the foreign Gaels — I don’t think I am paraphrasing much).
Here then from Alexander MacBain’s 1896 etymological dictionary are some possible Pictish loanwords in Scottish Gaelic along with some Welsh cognates –
BAD: “cluster” (cf. Breton bod). BAGAID: “cluster, troop” (cf. Welsh bagad). DAIL: “meadow” (cf. Welsh dol), DÌLEAB: “legacy”. MONADH: “mountain, moor” (cf. Welsh mynydd). MORMAER: Legal term meaning “earl, count” (cf. Welsh mawr + maer). PAILT: “plentiful” (cf. Cornish pals, Middle Welsh pallt). PEASG: “gash, chilblain” (cf. Welsh pisg). PEIT: “small area of ground” (cf. Welsh peth). PÒR: “grain, crops” (cf. Welsh pawr). PREAS: “bush, thicket” (cf. Welsh prys).
Unnoticed and unremarked, NC contrives to conceal a tiny kernel of unsubstantiated fact in the midst of his dreary witterings:
“The predominant language claimed to be spoken by modern Scots between Scots and Gaelic is Scots(43%)”
Consider what that should mean. Two out of every five Scots speak Scots.
Two out of every five posts on here should be in Scots.
In fact, given that this place is the haunt of Scottish patriots, burning with hatred for generations of colonialist oppression by the English fiends, one could be forgiven for thinking that in actuality, the proportion should be much higher.
Maybe four out of every five posts on here should be in Scots.
Whereas in reality, posts in Scots are rare. Maybe two regulars manage to do it, but never when they have anything important to communicate. Isn’t that so, Alf?
Anybody smell a rattus rattus or rattus norvegicus? Give us a post in Scots explaining which one it is, along with your evidence and logic.
It’s Sunday. What else will you be doing?
Kirk was a nutcase with a bible. Robinson is a nutcase with a rifle. America under Trump encourages nutcases. That is all to this episode of just another shooting in the US. Time to move on.
‘move on’
did you have a particular direction in mind. Is there something important here that we all missed? Move on to what? Business as usual? The Kubalan government are here to stay if that’s what you mean.
There is no grassy knoll to this story. Charges brought against Robinson make absolutely no reference to left or right leanings as a motive. According the American Gun Violence Archive there has been over 300 mass shootings in the US this year. You really don’t a need a motive to shoot someone in America – that’s the real issue. Kirk is just a statistic and not a martyr.
It has been revealed that one of the females in Kubala is actually from Texas. This surely is now an international incident.
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Official: The federal investigation into the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk has yet to find a link between the alleged shooter, 22-year-old Tyler Robinson, and left-wing groups.