Wings Over Scotland

That neatly sums up UK politics.

It’s a difficult decision, right enough.

“To cut or not to cut? That is the non-question”. Fcuk ’em. Snip.

It’s hard to believe there are still so many in Scotland who wouldn’t use those scissors even though they can see exactly what’s coming.

I still can’t get my head round that fact. Just bloody cut the cord!

Jings! Hamish has broken his tail! that is not one but TWO unnatural angles it’s at.

I’m going to report Cairnstoon to the Society Against Cruelty to Animated Animals, see if I don’t.

Is it really the right time to cut the rope though?

Is it really the right time to cut the rope though?

Si señor Richardinho or asap.

Hamish, it’s not a tandem jump.Cut the bloody rope, the only way is up!

Thanks, Chris, spot on as usual.

Peace Always

Now is not the time to be pondering, Hamish, cut the bloody chord.

((((( Arrivederci Mr.Bull )))))

That put a big smile on my face.

Boy has triggering Article 50 opened a huge big can of worms.

Those scissors better be sharp- we’ll only get one chance to cut the rope that binds us tight.
Brilliant, Chris.

Stoker:O/T

Is this what you are looking for?
link to caltonjock.com

Peace Always

lol do it Hamish let the sad old git pay for his own mistakes for a change.

Cutting the rope – The National isn’t really helping.

With its Bella Caledonia supplement today, The National further weakens its Independence credentials.
It is like the BBC, in so far as it gives us what we like mostly, but always includes something to undermine Independence as well, which explains not only The National’s BBC-like strategy, but also its true purpose.

A bit like a fish supper with a dodgy chip inserted, which, when digested, makes you ill.

The classic climbing dilemma. Cut the rope or die trying to save your fellow climber? In this instance the only solution is to cut the umbilical. Most assuredly both will perish if nothing is done.

What a fantastic cartoon. Amusing, accurate, and ultimately hits you with the very life and death nature of the decision.

You Chris are very very talented.

Difficult composition, Chris, to show space, depth and perspective.

You should plan a Xmas book: “A Hundred Ways to Kill John Bull”.

Your weekend reading:

Crap to expect next Referendum: link to wp.me
Car Tax Hike – not April Fool: link to wp.me

I hope those scissors are sharp. Get cutting.

So good. Plz remember to share it everyone, far and wide.

“Now is not the tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiime” – ‘thud’ 🙂

Lol. let’s hope Theresa May hasn’t swapped the scissors for a comedy pair!

Speaking of underhand May, does anyone know if she will write an official response to Nicola Sturgeon, or does she plan just to ignore the letter altogether.

From Stu’s twitter “BREXIT – a Titanic success” the movie:
link to twitter.com

As he falls over the cliff John Bull becomes increasingly aggresive. Already warlike language is being used. I heard Andrew Castle this morning refer to Europeans as “the enemy”.

They’ll be throwing themselves over, the white cliffs of dover
Just you wait and see
They’ll be queuing a plenty, all the landed gentry, and throwing themselves into the sea

John Bull does know that there isn’t a bouncy castle at the foot of the cliffs?

Her Maj has had it taken it away to be refurbished.

Another cracker Chris, nice one.
Could also have had Hamish standing with two parachutes.

You just need Ruth saying “I never said jumping off a cliff was bad idea!”

A rush, and a push…

I just hope and pray Hamish cuts the rope Chris.. if he doesn’t he will end up like some old lion with one eye and scabby fur in a mad brit circus..

bbc scotchshire-Sheena his commentator- taking over brexit debate without interuption–

having a referendum without May’s permission in Scotland is like being a banana republic.

Right wing tosh from a right wing programme.

This cartoon should be on billboards!

What does it for me is the stupid grin and the “wheee”.

Great Chris and yes if the BT lot win, we’re going over with John Bull.

Re The National, I was going to subscribe and I know it’s the only pro indy daily we have but what puzzles me, where did Bella get all that cash from?

Bill posters in prominent parts of the City & a monthly mag.
Sorry to say but it makes me a bit suspicious, I will continue to buy the iScot mag.

Now is not the time for scissors. We should be jumping together. It’s not fair to use those scissors without knowing what our fate would be after we leap. Would we reach terminal velocity? Would we make a sort of screaming midair cartwheel? Would the wind blow us up to the peak of Mount Olympus where we would be in our rightful place among the gods?

You’ll kick yourselves for not exploring all the fantastic opportunities.

At last, cutting the ties that bind, its got to be done!

PS:
Prof Curtis in the National hinting that Scotland could have a binding referendum without having to worry about getting WM
‘permission’.

Just got to write the question a certain way…Oh wait! April 1st…Or maybe not

The Brutish brute John Bull knows he`s in trouble he is wearing his butchers apron waistcoat with the flag upside down which is a sign of deep distress and a cry for help,

much as I want Scotland to cut the rope to brutal John Bull I feel we need to also throw a life line to those thousands of English/Welsh that are moral and decent human beings.

If N Ireland and the South are to have no hard border where will the hard border be, and what will the ramifications be.
Will Theresa need a passport to visit her province?
What about the Queen will she need a visa to visit her Loyal Subjects. Will Belfast still have a shopping centre as cross border shopping becomes the norm.

Just a thought maybe this has something to do that they don’t want Scotland to go and keep telling us we are to wee and poor.

It shows Nexen, owned by China National Offshore Oil Corporation (CNOOC), paid a whopping £792.4million to the government in 2015.

BP said it was “nearing the end of a historic £10billion programme of investment in the North Sea which, alongside the well-documented decline in industry revenues and profits related to the oil price fall, was the key driver of the 2015 tax-repayment”.

It added: “The investments we are making now will deliver UK hydrocarbon production and revenues for decades to come.

“We expect to return to a tax paying position in the UK North Sea within a few years, depending on oil and gas prices. To date, BP has paid more than £40billion in tax on its UKCS (UK continental shelf) operations.”

Ian Wood 2014 oil running out now 2017 “nowhere near the end of its life” come 2018-19 oil running out these fools don’t realise these quotes can now be kept for all time.

Here’s an excerpt from a statement by Ruth Davidson re John Boothmans apparent appointment to lead Better Together2 or Nude Erection whatever they’re gonna call themselves

“I worked at BBC Scotland under John and know just how committed he is to the Union. Nothing was more important to him.”

That says it all right there

You’ll notice it’s not how committed he is to Scotland or the Scottish people, it’s how committed he is to the union, that’s all that matters to them, nothing is more important to these people they are fanatics, that’s why we will never have a reasoned debate with them.

Even if it was proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that remaining in the union would lead to mass unemployment, poverty, starvation, disease all that would be an acceptable price to pay to preserve the union.

We really need to be shot of these people

Graeme

I mentioned John Bull’s aggression earlier. Listening to LBC this morning, the callers are going nuts over Gibralter. One guy willing to physically fight for Gib. Another wants to boycott Spanish goods because the Spanish need their ears boxed.

Get down on your knees world. Obey!

Graeme says:

Here’s an excerpt from a statement by Ruth Davidson re John Boothmans apparent appointment to lead Better Together2 or Nude Erection whatever they’re gonna call themselves

“I worked at BBC Scotland under John and know just how committed he is to the Union. Nothing was more important to him.”

Grame re BBC Scotland so did our
Presiding Officer, the Rt Hon Ken Macintosh MSP maybe that is why he will not tell the Tank to behave herself in Parliament ,just saying.I thought May said no so why is Davidson saying this.

Gibraltar, the one question I’d ask is who wants to keep it and why?

Conclusion I have come to is that it is absolutely nothing to do with the people who live there. It has to do with misplaced pride, some sense of loss of a possession and very conservative outlook that opposes change regardless of that changes merits!

This sums up the English ruling classes, but sadly they are able to diffuse this nationalistic sense of superiority down the English people through the elites ownership of the media.

The possession of Scotland is viewed similarly, “we are keeping you, we don’t know why, but we are doing it regardless of what Scots think”.

Scotland is being run as a colony, a colony that will go over this cliff with the English elites unless we come to our senses as a nation, and not a colony!

I know there are thousands of thick yoons out there but this one is a cracker from btl one of Nanas links..

Scotland is part of the united kingdom without the funding from u.k. you would be bust so you are not an independant country and may will not give you a referendum So you are going noware if you did leave u.k. and joined e.u.. you would not be an independant country you would be ruled by brussells
So how is that indipendance you would be jumping out of the frying pan into the fire
So from the bottom of our hearts you can’t go any ware because you voted once in referendum you had it mate you don’t get another and when the u. k. Flourishes outside of e.u. and we keep funding you by 1654 pounds per person per year you will kiss our feet that your narrow escape from serfdum was saved By the U. K.
You had fish as first ministers a salmon now a Steurgon well we are the shark (lol)

Croompenstein says:
1 April, 2017 at 11:55 am

I know there are thousands of thick yoons out there but this one is a cracker from btl one of Nanas links..

Scotland is part of the united kingdom without the funding from u.k. you would be bust so you are not an independant country and may will not give you a referendum So you are going noware if you did leave u.k. and joined e.u.. you would not be an independant country you would be ruled by brussells
So how is that indipendance you would be jumping out of the frying pan into the fire
So from the bottom of our hearts you can’t go any ware because you voted once in referendum you had it mate you don’t get another and when the u. k. Flourishes outside of e.u. and we keep funding you by 1654 pounds per person per year you will kiss our feet that your narrow escape from serfdum was saved By the U. K.
You had fish as first ministers a salmon now a Steurgon well we are the shark (lol)

I don’t think that’s a particularly untypical view many English have of us and as ignorant as it may be until we grow a pair and get out of this union it’s no more than we deserve

Graeme

Aye, Scotland needs to cut itself free of John Bull BS. As John Bull falls, English nationalism – in the rancid form of so-called British nationlism – is continuing to rise.

Our Media and Mayhem seem to have been unprepared for Spain exercising its right of Veto over Gibraltar in the upcoming negotiations ,of course this gives Mayhem a wee chance to stamp her feet and screech Look Look see how beastly these people are , While Mayhems regime were perfectly at ease using this Mythical Veto to continually beat scots over the head with , when an actual real Veto is presented to them its Screaming bloody Panic, Oh Diddums.
This is where EU polititions and Media really have to start to give some support , the Media in this country are only ever going to present the EU through a Mahem tinted lense , we are only going to get a European view on events if we go and look for it , hopefully some people in Europe will see the opportunity to open up another front that allows some of the truth to be aired because our media are tainted .

Think, man

Hamish, don’t wait too long…he will take you down with him!

manandboy at 12 24

Can do without being patronised. Thanks. The BBC is probably about the best TV in the world across a very wide area of broadcasting.It is entirely UK unionist and its public political broadcasting into Scotland is a disgrace.

Have no idea what this has to do with the National.
Perhaps you can reference some anti Independence content in the National to fill out your argument.

Ref the National.
I distinctly remember Alex Salmond at that huge event in the hydro telling 12,000 supporters that they should support the National.With all due respect to its detractors on here, I think I’ll continue to take the advice from the man who has spent his entire political life fighting for Scottish independence.

For any lurkers out there,who’s advice would you heed?

Scots go pop has an apology from unionist troll “glasgow working class ”
If folk like him are bailing out , things are looking very good. .Interesting read I wonder how many others Better Together we’re paying to spin anti Scottish lies.
http://scotgoespop.blogspot.co.uk

Graeme@12.03
I have noticed these “rocket scientists” on the internet for a while now, it used to get my blood boiling, but now I just laugh at their inability to make any sense, I and everyone on WoS knows our day is coming, and we are going to have one almighty ceilidh when it happens.
I have lots of friends dan saf, but they made their beds at the last election ( being frightened into voting Tory/U-Krap)because they believed the lies about the SNP wagging Labours tail in a coalition, then came Brexit and the same thing happened. So hell mend them when the time comes.
I have no sympathy.

The wonderful Titanic Brexit video is also on YouTube

link to youtube.com

Laughing at tragedy seems excusable it this instance!

AYE CUT IT – Great titanic clip ha ha to go with another good cartoon , is it time to look out the Spanish shirts and flags yet ? , OOps that might seem a little childish but who gives a f**k .

Think we’ll discover that all Hamish has to do is open the paw holding the rope having already cut it a long time ago.

Northern Ireland ‘can rejoin EU after Brexit if it votes for reunification’

While Scotland would be forced to join back of the queue, a united Ireland would not need to reapply for membership, says David Davis
Is this man Davis for real.

Gibraltar: A Tax Haven Not a Nation

link to archive.is

Off to catch up on the footie.

The National:
Cryptic X-word, still stuck on top LH side. Jeez! 🙂

Tory piss artists run the UK, shock. Be interesting to see the Holyrood booze bill too.

link to mirror.co.uk

Mindful of the fact that England will at some time in the not so distant future be applying for World Trade Organisation membership I thought I would have a wee scout round the web for information regarding same and came across some fascinating facts.

E.G.
This from the Wikipedia entry under the heading Accesion and Membership.

The process takes about five years, on average, but it can last longer if the country is less than fully committed to the process or if political issues interfere.

The Falkland Islands anyone?

More information here
link to en.wikipedia.org

I also looked for some information about which contries are not members of the WTO that England can be trading with while their application for membership is approved and came accross this interesting web site

link to tradeready.ca

From which I have pasted and copied the chapter below.

These countries face significant obstacles to increasing their trade, as they do not hold the Most Favored Nation status given to all WTO members, nor do they receive the same lower trade barriers all WTO members must grant one another.

Instead, they may face higher numbers of tariffs, import quotas and regulations when dealing with most of the world, and cannot resolve their trade conflicts through WTO courts.

I feel that no further comment is necessary except perhaps……

Oh dear oh dear England what have you done!!

P.S. I hope my links work as i´m not sure about the https thing.

Brilliant,and spot on.

Talking of cutting ropes…I’m intervening on this thread to reiterate that those who hold tae the views expressed by an oft times but regular commenter on Wings by the name of Blair Paterson, will be relentlessly challenged and countered at all times by those of us not prepared tae put up wi these bigoted and narrow minded comments.

Sneaking on tae the end of threads does not give you a ‘hiding space’ on Wings Blair.

‘K1 says:
1 April, 2017 at 3:06 pm
Blair Paterson on The Metrosplainers @12.45pm on 1st April 2017 wrote:

‘Talking about sexuality how can people who are abnormal gays etc., be expected to make normal decisions ?and before all you goody goodies start I am entitled to my opinions just the same as you are it is called democracy’

Blair?

You are, as well as being a blood and soil nationalist, also a homophobe and nasty bigoted little sneak.

Go on to the main thread Blair and make the same statement, go on?

From here on in, let me tell you right now I am going to repeatedly paste your comment every time you come onto Wings, every time I see you post until it is made clear to you that your ilk are not representative of the prevalent and progressive attitudes that our polity hold dear in Scotland.

The vast majority of people in Scotland do not hold to your archaic divisive and utterly repugnant attitudes. That’s democracy in action, we hold that majority view in this regard.

So by all means cling to your bigotry and your narrow minded prejudices but don’t think yer getting a fee pass on here under the banner of ‘democracy’ pal.’

Ma apologies for the interruption. Are ye hearing me Blair?

Great cartoon – I do love Hamish!

Re The National , it obviously doesn’t have the support of the distributors or there are far fewer copies available to go round.

I have stopped using our local RS.McColls as they had a habit of hiding the National on the bottom shelf under any other available magazine – while having HUGE piles of both the DM and Express at eye level.

I’m sure they miss my 20 odd quid per week that I use to spend there.

@ K1 3:31pm Well Said Totally Agree.

United Nations charter 1960 states quite clearly the right to self determination and that a country may not not be dominated OR governed without their consent

Perhaps food for thought when some folk think the Scottish government can’t hold referendums if they so choose or whether they’re legal or not

When the Unionist lawyers start bleating about the “Not legal” status of such endeavours they should perhaps peruse the UN regulations

I’m not saying that this is the First Ministers option but I will say you can bet money this will be “On the table” shall we say

I’m no lawyer but The English government will know this too and if they don’t think the First Minister would use it they don’t know our First Minister
If Nicola Sturgeon employs the UN charter to solve the lack of Scottish democracy the world will cheer and we’ll hear their applause from here

And where’s Robert Peffers? Please come back!

Seconded!

Its people like you Mr Peffers that make it easier for others to speak up too.

Just went out and got the National for the first time in a long while.(never missed a copy in its first year)
I will give it another chance, but will keep a close eye on it “scoring goals rather than hitting the post”. (you know what I mean)
Time will tell.
Titanic parody, “Classic”

Dave McEwan Hill, Flower of Scotland and Valerie

Re the National. You are absolutely right.
If you dont like the National write to the Editor or the paper direct but don’t suggest don’t buy it.What is the point in that? My suspicions arise when folk criticize it out of hand. As I said to Rock some weeks ago what paper he read, he responded that he didn’t. Weird.
Maybe we have frightened journalists who see the writing on the wall for the brexit papers. There are too many in Scotland, too many free right wing papers and giveaways and lets not forget the local press who are owned by unionists.

Scotland needs a free press able to express the wishes of50% of the population at least and in terms of social democracy around 80%. Not 99% owned by brexiters/unionist/ tories owned by tax avoiders from foreign lands.

I believe it is my fault that Robert Peffers has stopped posting and if it is it makes me very sad indeed.

I put up a post about ignoring trolls that Robert took exception too and called me “bloody stupid” to which I took exception too and said I would ignore him if he called me that again.

I did not use foul language or call him similar names, I asked that he desist from doing that to me or anyone else.

I feel guilty now but I was doing exactly what I would do with anyone other poster that gives me grief on Wings and there have been plenty, I was sticking up for myself because I did not believe I was “bloody stupid”.

I too wish to see Robert post again and if I upset you and caused you to leave Wings then please accept a sincere apology.

This has put me off posting on Wings as well as you do feel so bad after such a fall out, so I can understand how Robert might feel.

I hope to read your posts again Robert.

Goods (papers WH Smith and others retailers) are supposed to be ordered through the till. Once they are sold out. The order keeps on being increased. That is how they market all main retailed goods. From experience certainly can’t get after noon, in most outlets where they are stocks,

People can access the website. This brings revenues for any adverts and adverts in the paper. It takes a while to increase custom as sales go up.

There will not be any waste, as no copies will be put put back. No printing waste equals less financial layout and expense. To take up any profits. A leaner undertaking. The website has moved up the rating. Now above British rail but still behind the (National) lottery. At least opening up the gives a better balance. Less negativity more openness in discussion etc. Some really good front covers. It’s quite nice not to be constantly confronted by negative stories. Even though readers do not agree with all of it.
.

K1 @ 16:11:

They will destroy our nation

Yes, this is what the remaining “soft-no’s” don’t seem to get yet. So far they have been sheltering against the storm under the SG’s umbrella, whining about the drops that inevitably come through, but the Mayhem Gang brook no opposition and are clearly intent on snatching away even the flimsy protection against them that we currently possess.

When the Brexiteers talked about “taking back control”, some of us at least could see that they were not only referring to the EU. We are also right in their firing line, but – surprise, surprise! – they prefer to deal with us once they have recovered from the severe bruising they are about to receive at the hands of a much more powerful EU. Unfortunately there are still indy supporters who misguidedly think that waiting until London has regained the initiative is somehow a cunning plan.

How anyone could conceive of another unfolding situation more conducive to independence mystifies me.

We’re like a grumbling crew on the cusp of mutiny; we’ll be pacified by all sorts of sweet talk at first, but if we’re foolish enough to allow the situation to stabilise, we’ll promptly be thrown into chains and punished as ingrates and miscreants.

There’s only going back from here or going forward. I choose to go forward.

I’m sure Robert will post again when he has something pertinent to say. Hope so anyway. With all the constitutional argy bargy that’s descending on us we need somebody to keep us right.

Re : The National.

My concern is that AFAICT its sub-edited in the same place by the same people as The Herald/Evening Times etc.

That place is Cardiff, not Glasgow. Sub-editors work to guidelines set by (group) management. Push comes to shove & I reckon it’ll be a different narrative coming from The National.

I’m quite prepared to accept I may well be cynical and/or paranoiac about this 🙂

However Bella (who did a lot to cost the SNP a majority in 2016) and the mystery injection of (lots of) money to “save” Bella is enough to put me off.

I’m not going to trust anything Mike Small & his coterie are involved in. End of story.

Hopefully that goes some way to explaining why some of us are dubious about The National.

Don’t let it put you off buying/supporting it, but please don’t just assume those of us who are dubious of it are mad. Some of us maybe 🙂 however some of us have serious qualms about Gannet/Newsquest & The National but hope we’re wrong.

This denigration of The National is like self harm.

Yes is a ‘broad church’ – oh but I don’t like that National.

If The National was genuine they would have our Rev in it. National then has the Rev in it.

Oh, the stakes have never been higher – but I don’t buy the National, or nor should anyone.

There are a number on the Yes side, I’m not all that fond of, or aren’t my preferred reading, but guess what, I don’t feel the need to keep sharing that picky, personal view on the most widely read blog of the movement.

I consider there could be undecided lurkers or trouble makers reading this blog, paid and unpaid, looking for help or mischief, and people are helping the unionists make their case.

Just ignore the paper that genuinely, publicly, repeatedly supports an independent Scotland. You don’t have to buy it, but why on earth slag it?

I don’t slag off other Indy sites, they might just appeal or draw others to them.

Please think about the impact of your actions. This is not some backwater you are posting on.

@thepnr

Good comment. We’re all Jock Tamson,s bairns and we need you and Robert Peffers on here commenting.

Come on Robert!

@Valerie
Totally agree!

I kinda wish / hope Robert Peffers would start up his own blog.

It must be frustrating to write out the same stuff over and over again, but it’s such very rich information, and Roberts knowledge of it seems forensic.

I know I have learned a tremendous lot from MrPeffers comments, and not just colourful snapshots, but game changing fundamental discrepancies in the way we are governed; why certain things are the way they are. I never knew the significance of Scotland’s popular sovereignty, and the ramifications of what that actually means, but thanks heavens I know about it now.

Look around the internet. It’s very rare indeed to find and access any of that information, whereas Mr Peffers could put his cross hairs right on the spot.

I don’t know if there’s a way to help Mr Peffers get a blog of his own set up, but I know I would consider it a valuable resource for the whole of Scotland to have at its fingertips, especially in these times.

What say you Mr Peffers? I am sure there are folks here who can help with the technical side of doing it. In every sense, knowledge is power, and this knowledge is very powerful indeed, since it pulls the rug out from under Westminster’s feet and their Parliamentary sovereignty claptrap. Once knowledge of the truth is shared amongst ourselves, and spread to others, I feel sure it strengthens our hand tremendously.

Credit where it’s due Robert, in my humble opinion your impressive knowledge deserves a greater platform than below the line comments on another blog. Get your vast wealth of knowledge accessible to us all so we can share it, link it, refer people to it.

Make it a formal project, a full constitutional history blog. We need it.

Breaking news just in!!!

Downing street have confirmed Theresa May has been arrested at the chelsea flower show after streaking through the displays.

They had to eject her , but no before she won the award for the best dried bush arrangement.

More on this story later……

I have to agree with all of you who miss Robert Peffers, I miss him too.

Thepnr has been decent enough to apologise, so what say you Robert. With the Maybot in her very intransigent mode re Scotland we need you more than ever. What are Nicola’s options with regard to our sovereignty, what about the referendum etc? You have all this knowledge to help the rest of us, so what dae ye say.

Come on auld Bob, come back and talk tae us. Please.

Brilliant cartoon Chris, encapsulates the last week in an instant.
Simply superb!

Regards Mr R Peffers.
I am assuming Bob has a few more years on the clock than my 64.
Has anyone or is anyone able to check he is still ok health wise?

Hopefully he will respond to this genuine concern even if he feels he does not want to post at the moment.
Regards INDEPENDENT

Also for other “wall of text” people (Ken500, looking at you matey 🙂 ) then you have to understand that you can’t write an essay every time BTL.

If you do then many/most people won’t read it properly.

They’ll simply skim it & most of the time think “same old same old” & move on. If you post walls of text regularly which are much the same each time they’ll just scroll past you regardless of what you’re saying.

Got something to say which requires more than 4 paragraphs? Write an article & give it to Stu. Given his background expect some fairly brutal editing/advice but there you go, you’ll learn & we’ll all benefit.

Independent@6.22
I was thinking that myself.

@Valerie 5:25 pm :

“I don’t slag off other Indy sites, they might just appeal or draw others to them.

Please think about the impact of your actions. This is not some backwater you are posting on.”

Shame Bella/CommonSpace didn’t do that in 2016 when they deliberately split the vote mmm?

If they had then the SNP would have had a majority and we wouldn’t be having any of this “no demand, no mandate” stuff.

So with the greatest of respect NOBODY on the indy side should trust Bella/Mike Small. Don’t treat us like we’re fucking idiots thanks, we remember last year, we’re not senile (yet)….

Come on, Wingers – “Divide and rule”, eh? And if Alex Salmond trusts The National, as an earlier poster reminded us, who are we to doubt to the extent of arguing amongst ourselves?

I too hope that Mr Peffers is well.

@Hamish100 7:01 pm :

“Vestas

Not senile but pretty rude.”

Indeed and for that I apologise.

I’m just not going to stand for this “broad church” nonsense when Bella/CommonSpace basically traduced people like James Kelly (Scot Goes Pop) last year over a series of months.

In fact they both used to have links on here. No more though.

They can take their “broad church” & shove it as far as I’m concerned. I’ll stick with people I can trust.

Oh and Cat Boyd pontificating on Brexit (and getting paid for it) is beyond parody given she couldn’t even be bothered to vote in the EU ref.

See why I wonder….?

I know we got a brief mention in a motion by MEPs the other day but it would be really useful if they said they won’t endorse brexit until Scotland has a chance to clarify its constitutional choice via #scotref.
It might happen, maybe it’s planned in.

Vestas says:
1 April, 2017 at 7:22 pm
@Flower of Scotland 7:10 pm :

“Vestas@6pm

Why are you telling people to get off WoS btl? I read almost everything btl, bar trolls, if you dont that’s fine.

Its an odd thing to do, as in telling commentators like Ken500 to cut back or go somewhere else, as if they don’t anyway but such is the bizzaro world of Scottish politics today, at any and all levels 😀

Vestas.

I tend to agree with you. Large screeds BTL again and again on the familiar theme of anyone’s pet notions isn’t for me. I just scroll right past most of suchlike now. Maybe if there was a nugget of something new in there I would miss it, whereas if it were a post in its own right, it would be worthwhile.

I guess if there was someplace where eg. a suitably comprehensive article (or articles) on constitutional theory could be archived, that might be a useful reference for anyone who needed it.

Bella, even? =grin=