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Another lucky escape

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Alert readers may recall that almost three years ago, the No campaign issued a series of dire warnings that independence could cause supermarket prices to rise:




Thankfully, by staying in the UK and therefore leaving the EU, Scotland etc etc.






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    1. Grouse Beater says:

      I love the way May and her duplicitous sods refuse to discuss the objectives of their intended Brexit talks so they “don’t expose their negotiating hand early”.

      No need to ask them if they have a Plan B.

      They won’t even admit to having a Plan A.

    2. MajorBloodnok says:

      What with the Treasury itself predicting a £66bn loss to the UK economy and likely Brexit repayments to the EU of 20bn Euros (lets call it £20bn), this is only the beginning of our marvellous British post-Marmite Brexit dystopia that Scotland voted to remain a part of.

      And yet remarkably the BBC and others are still trying to say we’d be worse off independent.

    3. Marina says:

      I wonder why they chose marmite for every story. They pulled PG tips! PG TIPS!!

    4. Macart says:

      The tip of the iceberg.

    5. Wulls says:

      I knew it would come down to T bags and bloody marmite…….
      That’s a concept even the UK electorate can take on board.
      We don’t appear to be able to drag our selfs away from xenophobia but the price of marmite……..fuck me national crisis.
      It would be hilarious if people would only realise the £££ has lost more of its value in a week than over the last 25 years.

    6. Vestas says:

      “However everyone in the UK pays the same price in big supermarkets”

      Total bollocks. As someone who actually HAS shopped at Tesco Stornoway hundreds of time I can assure you that its always been >20% more expensive for the same shop as at Tesco Beaumont Leys (Leicester).

      Amusingly your “friends” over at order-order are up in arms about Unilever. Obviously some crap made from yeast sludge is an inherent part of being a unionist 😀

    7. Bill says:

      Love the article from the Daily Mail … Fury at Unilever.

      Feck all to do with Brexit, it’s all big bad Unilever.
      They’ll blame anyone but themselves and their policies.

    8. Capella says:

      “Common sense tells us that the cost of doing business is higher in a country like Scotland.”

      Common sense tells me that, had it not been for the Clearances, mass emigration, colonial exploitation and underdevelopment, particularly of transport and telecoms networks, the cost of doing business in Scotland would be no worse than it is in e.g. Switzerland or Norway.

      The cost of doing everything is vastly inflated by being tied to the UK.

    9. I wonder how long Theresa May can carry on refusing to spell out what the real consequences of Brexit are for ordinary people

    10. Marie Clark says:

      But, but, it’s no supposed tae be like this.

      We were going to be supported by the big strong arms of the UK. All the powers we were to get, the wonderful vow, the nearest thing to independence etc. Prices are not supposed to be rising, that was only if we were daft enough to vote for independence. Oh my.

      Does this mean, gulp, that they telt us a pack o’ lies. Awe naw.

      Brexit is fairly showing up the yoons for what they are.A lying bunch o’ chancers, wi nae idea whit the hell they are supposed to do now.

      Beam me up Scottie, time I was outa this place.

    11. Neil Cook says:

      Cmon folks we can use the magic 350 million a week from the Payments to EU TO offset this as well as funding the NHS, HS2, Trident and now we can give it to Tesco who only made 1 Billion & Unilever who made 5.5 billion profit.
      Can’t have investors and pension funds picking up the additional costs so get down to your local Supermarket and demand that you will pay the additional costs for pot noodle, marmite and your favourite Soap powder because you know at the end date of the day it’s them bloody immigrants fault for devaluing our money !

    12. Macart says:

      Another thought.

      Just what did the average voter in the UK THINK would happen to the cost of imported goods under Brexit scenario? The UK is a NET importer of goods and by the voting public’s own demand hard borders and hard Bexit conditions are about to be enacted.

      Did they honestly think the other 27 member states and their respective business communities were not going to be affected and take action to protect their own interests? Did they believe that international law, border controls, tariffs and taxes wouldn’t have any effect on them?

      Dang! That’s some set of blinkers they were wearing.

    13. James Mills says:

      Brexit is a bit like Marmite – you either love it or hate it !

    14. liz says:

      Don’t worry, this will invoke the British bulldog spirit.

      It will be just like the war, when we all got together and shared our T-bags etc.

      We’ll be all in it together, even the Queen will visit the east end etc etc

    15. starlaw says:

      I am deeply worried that HP broon sauce will go the same way

    16. Tommy Allan says:

      I was in a local furniture shop at the weekend and despite the fact they had a sale on I was told they were already having to put prices up due to affects of Brexit on the £.

    17. Vestas says:

      @ starlaw :

      There is some justification if HP Sauce went up as that’s not made in the UK. Marmite on the other hand IS made in the UK – 100% of the sludge is sourced here 😀

      Personally I don’t care what the reasoning is – its just nice to see someone sticking it to Tesco.

      Remember that in EVERY country Tesco have ever operated they have either already been convicted of fraud/money laundering/tax evasion or prosecutions are in progress.

    18. G4jeepers says:

      Where’s the dog food graphs?

      Any minute now…

    19. Robert Louis says:

      After their Anti Scotland nonsense recently, it is rather nice watching TESCO squirm.

    20. starlaw says:

      VESTAS 11-18 thanks for that, but I was being a bit light-hearted.
      Breaking news from SNP conference has cheered me up even more. Appears papers are being drawn up for consultation re Indy 2

    21. Robert Louis says:

      Soon to be issued : Brexit food ration books.

      Making Britain great again. Aye, right.

    22. Joannie says:

      I must protest at the rude comments some of you are making about Marmite. Its not sludge! Its a thing of wonder and beauty, especially on toast.

      And if you get it in the squeezy bottles you can draw faces on your toast. 🙂

      Btw, I’m a responsible 36 year old mother of two.

    23. Oscar Taime says:

      @MajorBloodnok 10:55 just watch them use the brexit crash as proof that “separation” leads to disaster.

      We can just reply aye mibby a Xenophobic foreigner feart version.

      This time Indyref2 will be about us keeping our status as internationalists.

      And no we won’t be leaving our fellow internationalist in rUK to rot we’ll be giving them a great example to follow.

    24. Ken500 says:

      Scotland is surplus in food and drink. Mass exporters. Self sufficient. Why would prices go up when Scottish consumers are nearer the source. Unless supermarkets are making foods dearer by unnecessary transport journeys. Aldi and Lidl’s prices are cheaper because of quicker, reliable turnover.

      Scotland pays higher prices for fuel and energy despite being nearer the source. The companies wanted to charge less but Westminster would not agree. It would bring parity because it is colder in Scotland.

      If the rest of the UK did not have Scottish products there would be shortages or prices would be higher because of transport costs. Beef, fish etc. Fish and beef products are exported to the EU for higher prices. Scotland is surplus in fuel and energy. Exports 25%

      Brexit will mean prices will be higher in Scotland. 62% in Scotland voted to Remain.

      Independence in or out of the EU is the only solution to Westminster intransigence.

      Sky desperately trying to promote more illegal war. To detract from Brexit crisis. Deplorable. Migration in Europe was caused by Westminster illegal wars. The U.K., France and the US were arming and supporting the ‘Rebels’ in Syria. The majority if people in Syria support Assad. The Tories only have 36% support of the vote. Less of the electorate. 20%? They are a minority Gov. The dope on the rope is a lying disgrace. They should be giving aid and reconstruction.

      Prices are higher in Scotland compared to some goods in depressed parts the UK. Firms taking a licence and liberty to charge more. Some goods in Eire from UK based firms (chains) do charge more but that is balanced out by other goods costing less.

      Hotels and travel are less compared to the UK. It leads to more foreign tourists from the US etc. Overall prices are less. The cost of living lower with higher welfare benefits. Higher pensions and child allowance. Higher basic tax but more equal distribution. Fairer more equal country. With less debt. Lower corporation tax. The EU is clamping down on major tax evasion. Google etc. The reason the Tory multimillionaires and their associates want out of the EU.

      The only tax the EU want to equalise are VAT and corporate tax for equal tax reasons. Minimise tax evasion for equal trade reasons. Most countries (European) have corporate tax at 20%.

    25. Thomas William Dunlop says:

      Basket cases…in Deed

    26. Macart says:

      Referendum bill to be published for consultation next week. 🙂

    27. Bob Mack says:

      I have some second hand teabags if anybody gets short. The spirit of Ww2 is alive and well. I have enough land to rent out vegetable plots if things get really desperate.

    28. Wulls says:

      Vestas says:
      13 October, 2016 at 10:59 am
      “However everyone in the UK pays the same price in big supermarkets”

      Total bollocks. As someone who actually HAS shopped at Tesco Stornoway hundreds of time I can assure you that its always been >20% more expensive for the same shop as at Tesco Beaumont Leys (Leicester).

      We live in between two telco supermarkets in Aberdeenshire.
      The nearest is more expensive than the one 10 miles further away.
      Christ only knows why.

    29. crazycat says:

      “Shoppers are calling for Marmite boycott in a bid to ‘take back control'” says the Daily Mail.

      That’ll show ’em!

      (Oh dear)

    30. Almannysbunnet says:

      These price rises are due in large part to the value of the pound. We are told correctly that the pounds devaluation is good news for exporters and bad news for “importers”. The problem is that we as consumers are directly affected by the “bad news for imports”. Brexiters screaming in fury at Unilever better get used to it as this is just the start.
      The currency question at indyref2 will be interesting. The Euro is looking more attractive by the day!

    31. Joannie says:

      How can they boycott something that’s been pulled from the shelves?

    32. Rab says:

      I’d never thought of drawing faces on toast with a marmite squeezy bottles thanks good tip. Oh and yes another 2014 lie exposed. Following Brexit presumably we’ll have to get used to new brands from Australia now like Vegemite.

    33. Socrates MacSporran says:

      Grouse Beater @ 10.55am

      “They won’t even admit to having a Plan A”.

      Grousey, old boy – they cannot admit to something they don’t have.

      And, all this “Dunkirk Spirit” shite worries me – the Military Establishment sacrificed the 51st Division at St Valery, to aid the escape from Dunkirk.

      The “Dunkirk Spirit” is therefore, bad news for Scotland.

    34. Ken500 says:

      Nicola/Alex telling it like it is.

      @ EU want to stop massive corporate tax evasion for equal trade reasons. Trade deals and equal market place. The Non Dom, tax evading Press owners and their associates want to continuing tax evasion. Enough is never enough for their associates. Lying to gullible people,

    35. mike cassidy says:

      They better hurry up and finish Crossrail so all those Londoners can have a tube station to sleep in.

      Who is going to win the prize for the first mention of the Dunkirk spirit?

    36. heedtracker says:

      Yes but junking our currency is really great you see. Or, Great time to start that autumn diet. Cant afford petrol in the UKOK zone? Walk everywhere.

      Being a teamGB tory tubthumper’s dead easy.

    37. Calum McKay says:

      Watching Scottish Question Time yesterday at westminster, there does not appear to be any answer to questions our Scottish representatives ask regard brexit other than the tories responding with abuse.

      Is it not about time we boycotted this foreign parliament?

    38. Arbroath1320 says:

      Marmite prices to go UP!


      Is Marmite now considered to be a danger to your health in the same way that smoking and drinking are? After all THEIR prices continually go up year after year and we never see the same level of outrage … do we? 😉

      Oh wait a minute. The price hike in cigarette and booze prices are all due to the Chancellor of the Exchequer robbing US blind to keep his tax cuts for the rich on course whereas the price hike in Marmite is dues to price rises caused as a direct result of the falling pound resulting from Brexit fears!

      Silly me! 😀



    39. starlaw says:

      I wonder if ‘Snook’ will be back on sale.
      (a ww2 fish dish that that even the cats wouldn’t eat)

    40. Ken500 says:

      Tesco were fiddling the books. Inflating profits. The ex directors are on trial at the moment. Will they go to jail? All the firms who supported No in the IndyRef profits have fallen because of austerity and Westminster policies. M & S etc. Green has bankrupted BHS and stolen the pension fund. Still nothing has been done. The Tories are still sanctioning and starving the vulnerable. Despicable. The welfare bill has gone up and NHS funding in England has been cut.

    41. schrodingers cat says:

      we have 2 jars of marmite in the kitchen press…. i hate both of them

    42. Proud Cybernat says:

      May’s tea’s oot…

    43. Glamaig says:

      one of the funniest things Ive seen was a German tasting marmite for the first time LOL

      So no sympathy from the EU I think

    44. MajorBloodnok says:

      schrodingers cat says: 13 October, 2016 at 12:02 pm

      we have 2 jars of marmite in the kitchen press…. i hate both of them

      Hang on to them me laddo, they might be worth something one day. (Certainly worth more than Sterling…)

    45. Scott Borthwick says:

      Marmite, eh? Does it count as a boycott if you’d never touch the nasty stuff even if you were paid to do so? OK, count me in.

      Well done to Tesco, though. It would seem to me that a huge corporation like Unilever will have highly-paid professionals doing quiet work on currency hedging, so they are unlikely to be any worse off due to the drop in the pound. This is na

    46. dakk says:

      Every bad effect of Brexit on UK will be contorted and used in Project Fear 2 against YES.

      I have an image of nest heid Neil humpfed over pointing his fat index finger at Nicola saying :

      ‘you said Better Together were just scaremongering.They said that about Remain too,but look at it now,Sterling in free fall and bootleg Marmite going for £10 a jar.Scotland’s wee milk boatle shooders would collapse under that strain.

      Thank the good people of England for being built like brick shit houses to take the strain for you.Do it now.’

    47. Scott Borthwick says:

      Sorry, posted unexpectedly. To finish:

      This is naked profiteering from Unilever, and should be called out.

    48. Robert Peffers says:

      @Marie Clark says: 13 October, 2016 at 11:05 am:

      “But, but, it’s no supposed tae be like this.”

      We more mature Wingers well remember the old WWII, oft repeated, claims that Britain always just, “Muddled through”. It referred to how everything, in spite of not being properly planned, (think Dad’s Army here), always just worked out right for us in the end.

      So perhaps the current Westminster Establishment still actually believes that old saw to still work for the UK.

      There is little doubt the total numpties in power at Westminster are indeed attempting to, “Muddle through”, Brexit.

    49. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh No what am i gonna do with out my wine gums oh noooooooooooooooo

    50. James D says:

      UK turns into Venezuela! – cue panic buying, stock piling …

    51. schrodingers cat says:

      MajorBloodnok says:
      schrodingers cat
      we have 2 jars of marmite in the kitchen press…. i hate both of them

      Hang on to them me laddo, they might be worth something one day. (Certainly worth more than Sterling…)

      um… spare some change fur an oxo cube?

    52. Josef says:

      That Mail online article was SO expected.

    53. Robert Peffers says:

      @Macart says: 13 October, 2016 at 11:08 am:

      ” … Dang! That’s some set of blinkers they were wearing.”

      Och! Macart, It wisna blinkers whit caused thaim tae get it aa wrang. Blinkers gan oan ther peepers and thir’s naethin wrant wi thir peepers.

      Thir muckle problem is wi whit’s atween thir lugs.

    54. Socrates MacSporran says:

      Mike Cassidy @ 11.51am

      You asked: “Who is going to win the prize for the first mention of the Dunkirk spirit?”

      That will be me then, three minutes before you postd.

      What have I won?

    55. schrodingers cat says:

      tesco announcement

      if westminster keeps pissin’ in oor bovril, we’ll keep shittin’ in their shoes

    56. Legerwood says:

      Bob Mack @ 11.36

      We grow tea in Scotland now so should be OK.

      Scott Borthwick @ 12.12

      Maybe it is profiteering but Tesco is probably taking the huff because they were planning to put prices up themselves using the falling pound as an excuse but Unilever beat them to it.

      Once upon a time the UK produced about 65% of its own food. That fell to around 50% when Tony Blair was PM. This fall of course impacted adversely on our trade balance.

      The amount of food we produce has possibly fallen further since then therefore any fall in the pound will impact massively on our food bills. Since a lot of the food we import comes from the EU then Brexit will also have an impact on food prices. Double Whammy.

      Fuel prices are going up – combination of weak pound and OPEC cutting production. I have seen it at £1.21 per litre in garages around here – Central Belt – over the past week or so. Food deliveries to supermarkets are delivered by road. Increasing fuel prices will be further upward pressure on food prices.
      Triple Whammy.

      Jeely pieces all round.

    57. schrodingers cat says:

      Socrates MacSporran says:

      Mike Cassidy

      You asked: “Who is going to win the prize for the first mention of the Dunkirk spirit?”

      That will be me then, three minutes before you postd.

      What have I won?

      um, a holiday for 27 relaying the highland line and a lifetime supply of marmite, one jar should be enough.

    58. dakk says:


      ‘What have I won?’

      Three guesses.

      Clue.Comes in a jar and tastes like Bovril.

    59. DerekM says:

      My god those brexit chumps are class A idiots they seem to think England actually makes things to export more than they import.

      To rub salt in the brexit wound we should be talking about building the biggest container port on this island in Grangemouth and Rosyth in an indy Scotland lets see them compete with that.

      It would also bring work to two deprived areas of the central belt,i would do the same at faslane once we get rid of the nukes and one up near Aberdeen.

      Now that would scare the pants of the tories as it would turn the tables on their little import export scam.

    60. heedtracker says:

      Usual SNP bad on Ligger Neil’s lunchtime BBC Politics show and today’s BBC Politics mug question competition is, approx, Speaker of the house gave Angus Robertson a row yesterday for un statesmanlike conduct because Angus was, a. picking his nose, b. didn’t have his shirt tucked in, c. playing with his phone, d. cant remember.

      At least Murdoch goons like the Ligger have mentioned anything SNP today, on their BBC.

    61. Legerwood says:

      Apologies O/T

      But yesterday’s PMQs and the reporting thereof by the BBC has been roundly criticised. This together with the Spectator’s analysis of the Media’s coverage of the EU referendum and the BBC’s obvious bias towards the Tories is not good news for the BBC.

    62. Capella says:

      Chunky Mark on the crashing pound, BBC lies and Angus Robertson in PMQs

    63. heedtracker says:

      Liggers BBC goon’s in Dundee today, because SNP conference is in Glasgow. He explains that there will not be a second reference without permission from Westminster, he’s on the Discovery and explains that the is at the helm for you Scots.

      Angus on now, Ligger talks over him as per BBC usual. They also give the SSP another massive boost in Dundee, which is much like what the fringe left got from the whole of the tory BBC led media got last Scottish GE. Funny that. That’s enough of Ligger Neil for lunch.

    64. One_Scot says:

      Oh deary me, don’t think Nicolas announcement of IndyRef2 is going down too well with the swivel-eyed frothing mouthed Yoons. Lol.

    65. mealer says:

      What’s Johann Lamont up to these days?

    66. Dave Hansell says:

      “What have I won?”

      I’d hazard a guess it won’t be marmite.

    67. Archie [Not Erchie] says:

      ..Ny Precious! Marmite with gold flakes!

    68. Proud Cybernat says:

      The trauma…

    69. Vestas says:

      @ Joannie 11:33am

      I hate to be the one to enlighten you but marmite is made from the yeast sludge left at the bottom of fermentation vessels when they make beer. As anyone who’s ever done home brewing can attest, this stuff is truly horrible – the smell is enough to turn your stomach.

      Enjoy 😉

    70. Ot I watched missing last night on the bbc and right at the start they said something that made me think it explained those who voted no they said something like the most enslaved are those who think they are free

    71. heedtracker says:

      Neil lists for Robertson how Scotland’s economy’s “the worst in the western world” with his long list of no oil, massive debt etc. Its an appalling indictment for the UK holding the reins of Scotland’s economy.

    72. HeehawBaws says:

      Just buy two jars right now and you’ll be stocked up until Scottish Independence.

    73. Joannie says:

      @Vestas. I don’t care its made from ground up dung beetles, its still lovely on toast. 🙂

    74. Scott says:

      Sorry folks but I just heard Angus Robertson being interrogated by Brillo it is about time that the SNP refused to be on his show and tell him to go and ***( himself an arrogant pig of a man.

    75. Dr Jim says:

      The difference between then and now is
      the big supermarkets were called in to speak to Cameron at the time and he told them to announce it and they did so Gleefully

      Now it’s an actual fact and they don’t like it

      It’s the broad shoulders that count though so the UK always does everything right and Scotland always does everything wrong

      Andrew Neil has just been squealing at the top of his wee “Partisan” voice at Angus Robertson how much Scotland is rubbish and broke and even worse than it was before the last referendum but at soprano level of ear splittingness now

    76. geeo says:

      Brillo v Angus Robertson….

      A.R. (Basically, after being talked over)…if you shut yet brillo mooth i will answer your 1st question ya fanny.

      Brillo…Scotland biggest fiscal deficit on the planet/universe/multi verse…oil price crashing (its going fucking up!)….oh bad…bad…too poor…apart from that whats the fiscal case for independence…??

      A.R. Emmm…what about yon £66 billion a year mentioned by the chancellor…?

      Brillo….Waahhh…wahhhh…thats SCAREMONGERING AND YOU KNOW IT…wahhh. wahhh

      A.R. (Smirks knowingly) “piss off ya fanny”

      Thats how i saw it anyway…lol

    77. Craig P says:

      That Better Together press release reworded:

      “Common Sense tells us that being a net exporter of water, energy, food leaves us in an excellent position to profit from nearby net importers of all of these essential commodities. However everyone in the UK benefits thanks to Scotland’s economy being run from elsewhere.”

    78. Stoker says:

      Tesco have just recently stopped selling my favourite frozen pizza; the extra large Dr.Oetker Ristorante Arrabiata.

      On further investigation i find that Dr.Oetker is not part of the Unilever Group. They are a very large German group of companies which include the Radeberger Group of breweries and much more.

      The plot thickens but i’ll tell you what, exciting times lay ahead.

    79. Hamish100 says:

      Not sure why the snp allow Brillo to get away with it. How many times has this been said and yet snp go softly softly. All Robertson had to say was stop talking over me, don’t be so rude let me speak- or if the riposte is “I asked the question Ill ask again”.. simply say smiling “I did answer the question- if you can’t understand it that’s your problem but I am sure the viewers understand- or words to that effect.

      Programme finishes by stating Andrew Robertson was ticked off by the Speaker for Chewing gum in the house of commons. My God.
      The BBC are the lowest. NO HAND CLAPPING NOW

      Brillo should be invited to Glasgow or refused the option of talking over, using the time delay when the person is being interviewed. He went to other party conferences.

      Listened to Patricia Gibson MP at the House of Commons on Baby deaths. She was excellent.

      Now the BBC talked on the 2016 Prosperity Index. Concentrated on England-

    80. Roland Smith says:

      I am sure the Rev can confirm this, was there not a spate of foreign holidays will be more expensive if vote Yes stories. Another bullet between the eyes .

    81. Clootie says:

      As regard pricing the mantra has always been “…whatever the market will bear”

      Prices are not lower in high population areas only because of turnover but also due to choice/options.
      Devon and Orkney share this problem – take it or leave it.

      We must also accept some of the responsibility. We enable Tesc etc to undercut the local shops UNTIL they are dominant. I’m probably being unfair to those on low incomes who need to look for the best price.
      I don’t have the answer but cheap low quality food such as McDonalds and large Supermarket chains such as Tesco who dictate your choice of shops and products are a bad thing.

      How do we get from ” ..whatever the market will bear” to fair pricing?

      Add in the fact that the big corporations are now very political (Tesco union flags) and it becomes a much bigger issue.

    82. One_Scot says:

      Honestly, what Yoon MP/MSP in their right mind is going to stand up before IndyRef2 and argue that it would be better for to Scotland to be damaged by a xenophobic right winged Tory Government, rather than creating a new and better future for all of Scotland.

    83. Orri says:

      Mentioning that Sterling is in free fall gets a response that that was just a Project Fear prediction. Do you think a wiseman might join the dots and conclude that Project Fear got it right as far as the EU was concerned.

    84. Robert Peffers says:

      @Legerwood says: 13 October, 2016 at 12:30 pm:

      ” … This fall of course impacted adversely on our trade balance.”

      Heh! Who is this, “Our”, you speak of, Legerwood?

      Scotland has long been a net exporter of food, drink, power and fuel. Mainly, of course far too cheaply, to the rest of the United Kingdom.

      To put that into proper context – it doesn’t mean that Scotland does not import food. It means that on balance we export a lot more of what we produce in Scotland than we need to import of the stuff Scots do not produce. So on balance our exports more than balance what we export.

      Not only that but the way the United Kingdom calculates our Scottish export produce does not give the correct Scottish exports. The UK classes Scottish produce leaving the United Kingdom via English air and seaports as English exports.

      Which calculation, obviously, increases the figures of England while decreasing the figures for Scotland.

    85. Luigi says:

      Macart says:

      13 October, 2016 at 10:58 am

      The tip of the iceberg.

      And so it begins, the union’s Brexistential Crisis.
      Let it be remembered that it all started over a jar of Marmite.

      First the tragedy, then the farce…….

    86. Artyhetty says:

      Re;Heedtracker and Scott

      Indeed, they said we were ‘better together’, we stayed ‘together’ and look, oh there’s a squirrel.

      300+ years of this destructive, negative, wasteful, bullying union, and the unionists continue in their attempt to keep Scotland shackled by telling us we are just far too poor!

      It won’t wash this time, not with the shambles that is brexit.
      People will be weighing up their options, what’s best for their pockets. The no voters of 2014 are not daft about money, and it is clear that brexit is disastrous in economic terms.

      If they really look at what the Scotgov are doing, in only a few short years, having been shackled for 300+, they can only come to one conclusion. That they want to live in a forward looking, modern, well governed country, not the backward, destructive, cruel dictatorship that is the UK.

    87. cearc says:

      David Davies on twitter, ‘So Unilever using Marmite prices to punish us for Brexit. toast-spread fight back starts here. From now on It’s Aussie made Vegemite for me.’

      He seems to have a limited understanding of FX movements (no surprise there then) £ -17.6 against AUS$.

      Some of the replies to him are wonderful ie. ‘reckon a jar of Marmite would have a better grasp on economic reality FFS’.

    88. I just caught Angus Robertson giving that Good Old Uncle Tom, Andrew Neil, a good slapping, live on his wee Westminster Bubble Gum for the Mind Show.
      His contempt for his native land, its democratically elected Government, and the decision by the Scottish citizens to remain within the EU, combined with his barging and bullying tactic of talking over replies,and insulting the interviewee of course doesn’t work on us Free minded Scots.
      He tried the usual Project Fear £15 billion debt, productivity down, shit, gleefully telling his English Masters what a shite country Scotland his native land is, yet again.
      Well done, you tenement dwelling half educated craver of social status faithful retainer.
      Or as we say, up here; bawbag.
      He didn’t like AR reminding him of the £68 billion Black Hole in England following Brexit, nor did he wish to discuss his Tory Masters’ lack of a Plan Anything.
      He really is a nasty wee piece of Unionist London centric work.
      We’re leaving you behind, Andrew.
      I relish the thought of you applying for a visa to visit us.
      I am assuming of course that you won’t be applying for a Scottish Passport, because you are a True Brit rUK national?

    89. Robert Peffers says:

      @Scott says: 13 October, 2016 at 12:53 pm:

      “Sorry folks but I just heard Angus Robertson being interrogated by Brillo it is about time that the SNP refused to be on his show and tell him to go and ***( himself an arrogant pig of a man.

      Oh! He is much, much more than a pig of a man, Scott. He’s also one of the very best recruiting sergeants the SNP has ever had.

      If that total numptie thinks he is putting folks off the SNP he’s very much in error.

      His abusive manner towards the SNP, the independence movement, Scots and Scotland only serve to turn sensible people against him, the BBC and the United Kingdom.

    90. cearc says:


      The painting kit, squeezy bottle sounds fun. Never thought about buying the squeezy bottle before will now though (for when the gran-weans are visiting y’ken).

      Not sure quite what Tesco are trying to achieve here. Surely they will lose trade as customers ,especially online ones, go else where for their favourite brands. Unilever own a hell of a lot of brands.

      I’d have thought that a cheap to implement flat 10% across their product range would probably be a good deal.

    91. yesindyref2 says:

      Timely article.


      About that HERALD article misreporting the GMB poll it gets worse. I just checked the full breakdown of results, and the question about holding the referendum said absolutely nothing about “hard” as in “hard Brexit. What it did ask was this:

      “And should this be before or after the result of the Brexit talks which will reportedly start early 2017?”


      Herald in full metal jacket panic mode. It gets just a few hours to spin a lie before it’s fully found out and totally demolished. Zero integrity. Ashamed of itself, it should be.

    92. cearc says:

      On Rev’s twiiter feed i see that Ruthie has, ‘Just left a meeting with David Davies on how to get best Brexit deal for Scotland.’

      You really couldn’t make this stuff up, the man who has just announced to the world that he doesn’t know/understand that a crashing pound increases import costs!

    93. Stoker says:

      I’m sure someone will correct me on this but is ‘Unilever’ not a joint Dutch/English Group?

      Heads Up!
      Just received my first Cairnstoon (A1 size) poster from Vistaprint and the glossy quality is outstanding.

      I tell you this just in case others are contemplating doing their own political poster promotion campaigns. Even though when you download the toon onto Vistaprints site it will inform you that the image is ‘low resolution’ and the quality may be poor.

      The quality is excellent and i’d recommend it to anyone. This is one way we can act independently *and* promote the works of one of our own at the same time. Your own wee mini billboards! 😉

      Next up, the start of my leaflet campaigns.

    94. cearc says:


      Yes, it is. (Unilever).

    95. Marko says:

      “Common sense tells you that it costs more to transport a tin of beans…” From where dammit? FROM WHERE?

    96. Gail Hughes says:

      Bob Mack says:
      13 October, 2016 at 11:36 am
      I have some second hand teabags if anybody gets short.

      That’s very kind of you Bob. I just read that Tesco have announced they have run out of toilet rolls. I don’t know if you could help folks out in that regard with a similar offer. 😉

    97. Tom B says:

      BDS Movement has been boycotting Unilever’s many brands for some time. It’s not just Marmite, focusing on Marmite hides the scale of this mega-corp’s monopoly, it is a vampire corporation which owns practically every familiar product name.

      No-one on an earlier thread addressed the contention that the prevailing political orthodoxy across the EU is essentially right-wing corporatism. It’s the height of folly to assume Scotland could change this one bit. Instead of the predatory rUK ransacking Scotland bare, you’ll have 27 or so predatory Westminsters picking over the bones of the country and people.

      Groupthink is a terrible affliction.

    98. gus1940 says:

      What did that beautiful Golden Retriever do to deserve being owned by a sh-t like Andrew Neill?

    99. Tinto Chiel says:

      Thoughts (such as they are) passing across Yoonster/Brexiteer synapses at the moment:

      “They’re’ll always be a Marmite.”

      “They’ll never take away our Marmite.”

      “Those bloody Dutch furriners have shafted us again.”

      Marx said history repeats itself, the first as tragedy, the second as farce, so now we know the stage we’ve reached. I’m just waiting for Boris’s pants to fall down when he gets caught in the cupboard with the French maid.

      Oh, wait, that happened last week in The Ritz…..

    100. Gail Hughes says:

      Marko says:
      13 October, 2016 at 1:53 pm
      “Common sense tells you that it costs more to transport a tin of beans…” From where dammit? FROM WHERE?

      Exactly. Crosse & Blackwell used to make canned beans up here in Peterhead until Nestlé closed the factory. If distribution costs are high then move production closer to the market.

      Asda opened a massive distribution centre in Grangemouth 3 or 4 years ago. Why Grangemouth? Presumably so they can bring in goods through the container port there. Not everything starts out inside the M25.

      I used to be the grocery manager for a large supermarket in Scotland. I once spent the best part of a day on the phone to head office because they told me I had to order the locally produced beer from their central distribution centre in Warwickshire. A 700+ mile round trip, involving two ferry journeys, to get beer from the brewery a mile down the road that I could see from my office window. The brewery owner used to bring the deliveries in the back of his car when he came to do his shopping. Eventually they gave in, but cost didn’t figure in their thinking. (I clinched it with the environmental impact of the unnecessary journey. At the time the company had just won an award for the “greenest” supermarket and were trumpeting their environmental credentials for all they were worth.)

    101. Vegan God says:

      I just come here for the patter. Bloody marvelous

    102. Vambomarbeleye says:

      Talking to a German friend last night. Who only half jokingly said that they would
      have to start sending food parcels soon.

    103. yesindyref2 says:

      Ah right, ignore my previous post about the “before or after” in the BMG poll, it takes some reading, but that’s NOT the relevant part.

    104. David Mills says:

      It simply the exchange rate little wonder that imports cost more when the £ is trading at parity with the bottletop.

    105. Robert Peffers says:

      @Jack Collatin says: 13 October, 2016 at 1:20 pm:

      … We’re leaving you behind, Andrew.
      I relish the thought of you applying for a visa to visit us.
      I am assuming of course that you won’t be applying for a Scottish Passport, because you are a True Brit rUK national.

      Oh! Don’t worry about the old, congenital idiot, Jack. In any case the old fool has converted more decent Scots to support independence than I have, and I’ve been advocating Scottish independence since around 1946 when I was still a schoolboy.

      I have never yet met anyone who said the auld numptie had influenced them towards unionism – but I sure as hell have come across a fair few, including your good self, who say they were influenced away from unionism by him.

    106. Jimbo says:

      How will this fall in the pound affect the £1 shops? Will they have to become the £1.10p shops?

    107. Robert Peffers says:

      @Gail Hughes says: 13 October, 2016 at 2:05 pm:

      ” … I just read that Tesco have announced they have run out of toilet rolls. I don’t know if you could help folks out in that regard with a similar offer.”,

      Well! Gail, Whatever you do, if you run out of that particular commodity, do not, (repeat DO NOT), attempt the use of any of the unionist supporting daily papers.

      To do so risks ending up with more shit on your rear than you began with.

    108. Stoker says:

      cearc on 13 October, 2016 at 1:37 pm

      Thanks, cearc, just pointing out the absolute ironic hilarity.
      Unilever, “Anglo/Dutch” partnership causing such grief. 🙂

      In other news! Tomorrow (Friday) night on Ch5 at 9pm there’s a documentary called “Britain’s Greatest Bridges”. It’s all about the history of The Forth Rail Bridge and it’s repeated Saturday night at 10:30pm on the same channel.

      Just another small example of the dilution of our Scottish identity and existence from London controlled Brit TV. They just keep chip, chip, chipping away, don’t they!

    109. t42 says:

      looks like my tesco boycott is starting to bite then!
      ceo picks fight with johnny foreigner to have an explanation at the shareholders meeting..

    110. crazycat says:

      @ cearc at 1.12 and 1.31

      David Davies MP and David Davis MP are two different people.

      The former likes vegemite; the latter has meetings with Ruth.

      (Apart from that, there is little to choose between them, they are both [insert uncomplimentary adjective/noun of choice].)

    111. Greannach says:

      I’ve never tasted Marmite, and since I wouldn’t go near Tesco in a month of Sundays I’m blithely uninvolved in this major drama.

    112. Luigi says:

      Gail Hughes says:

      13 October, 2016 at 2:05 pm

      Bob Mack says:
      13 October, 2016 at 11:36 am
      I have some second hand teabags if anybody gets short.

      That’s very kind of you Bob. I just read that Tesco have announced they have run out of toilet rolls. I don’t know if you could help folks out in that regard with a similar offer.

      The shit hits the fan and they have run out of toilet rolls. Great! What next?

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