Wings Over Scotland

Our ‘imperial masters’ very obviously want Keir Starmer as PM.

They even instructed Sunak to end his time as PM early by calling a snap GE to make it happen ASAP.

Starmer is 1-33 on to be PM. Starmer means war.

Who our imperial masters very clearly don’t want (especially judging by the unhinged comments on here) is you know who… Nige.

Right now there is only one candidate who could mount a serious challenge to Starmer. This is the truth.

Farage is the joint second favourite to be PM now but at 33-1 against. But Farage has got a chance, whereas the others are all complete non-starters.

This is a FPTP election so voting for non-starters is effectively not voting at all. You are just acquiescing to Starmer winning a landslide…

My view is fuck that and fuck them. I am going to vote for the candidate ‘they’ clearly hate and who is the only one left with a chance to poke a stick through Starmer’s spokes.

Starmer is bad news… no one seems to be focusing on that at all. Starmer is not working for ‘us’.

Democracy – how it is supposed to work – you vote for the person with whom you most agree – reality – you vote for the person you least fear / dislike.

As the saying goes if we want to make a Keir-Starmer-free omelet we have to break some Farage shaped eggs.

Another compelling reason to vote Farage – for the lolz. Do it.

Astonished says:
22 June, 2024 at 9:29 am

“Duncanio – Good point . Repurpose, it is from now on.”

Ian McCubbin says:
22 June, 2024 at 9:20 am

“@duncanio

OK good point.

So I have repurposed my ballot paper to make the point
#endtheunion.”

Nice one guys.

Abstain. With the help of the new ID rules for Westminster elections the turnout should be lower than normal anyway so let’s get turnout in Scotland below 50%. Show contempt for britnats and SNP.

Meanwhile Scotland is being used as training ground for foreign warships including that of the Knee–o-Knatt–zz-i U regime their warships are now docked at my home town of Glasgow, no Scots gave permission to allow this to happen, its a sad day that Scotland is being used as a Kne-eo- Kna=tt-zz-i port.

I don’t want N-at-o warmongers and their Kn-e-eo Kna=ttz-zi friends in Glasgow let alone Scotland.

“You have to actively vote for someone else likely to defeat them”

Actually no. If there is nobody else standing for what you want, the only thing you will achieve by “voting for somebody else” is to preserve the status quo you are wanting to get rid of.

From the perspective of Scotland, the dichotomy is anti-union vs union. The only way to stop this union is by either no longer sending MPs down to Westminster, or by electing MPs who will not take the seats and instead will reconvene Scotland’s old parliament.

There is only one political party standing on an abstentionst ticket, which is ISP. Unfortunately, ISP is only standing 4 candidates which will achieve nothing. We need at least sufficient number of candidates to ensure the number of Scotland’s MPs taking a seat falls below 45. Less than that will make not an iota of a difference.

This is why this election is a complete farce for Scotland. There is no real option to vote for Scotland’s independence. We are being denied that opportunity and all parties, one way or another, appear to be participating in this farce.

Voting for SNP, Labour, Libdems, Tories, Greens, Reform and I dare say Alba, will make not an iota of difference. They are all willing to swear allegiance to the English king and take the seats to continue giving legitimacy to Westminster as UK parliament so it can continue abusing Scotland and ransacking its resources.

If what you want is Scotland’s independence, then there is absolutely no point in voting for any of them.

From the perspective of Scotland, Farage is just as status quo as Starmer is. He is for preserving the union, so voting for Reform only serves to endorse the status quo of the union and therefore will be a complete waste of your vote if what you want is to end the union.

I am sure I am not the only one who has been wondering what the hell is Farage trying to achieve this time.

Brexit has been a disaster for the average household. Our food bills have skyrocketed. The quality of our food, no longer having to follow European standards, has become shite. Supermarkets in Scotland are innundated with English produce, so Scotland’s farms and agriculture have not been able to profit from the gap left by European produce. To hide this, we are presented with oversized UJs plastered on the products and making it even more difficult to find out where the product actually comes from. If you try to buy from Amazon, any product that comes from Europe and that used to be cheap before, is ridiculously expensive now. This is what we need to thank Farage for.

Farage is given a considerable amount of tv airtime considering it is a brand new party that has no MPs in Westminster. We all know the BBC and other TV channels are nothing but propaganda mouthpieces of the establishment. So, if Farage is on TV that much, it is because the establishment wants him to be.

Let’s compare that to the situation of Galloway’s party. How much do you hear about them? How much British TV airtime is Galloway being given? At least Galloway’s party has one MP. Yet, who gets more airtime, Farage or Galloway?

The real purpose behind Farage’s party is everybody’s guess. Personally, what I see is the following:

The powers that be, at whatever side of the Atlantic they sit, have already decided long time ago that pro-war, pro-Ish-rael and pro-genocide Labour would be in n10 this time.

To achieve this they had to pull Labour a mile and a half towards the right, so in practice, it is as close as Cameron’s Tory party as it could possibly be. It is, at all practical effects, the tory party under a labour flag.

There are two problems with this. First, labour and tories are undistinguishable. SEcond, moving to the right leaves a gap on the left, and this gives an opportunity for somebody traditionally left-orientated and very much anti-status quo (from England’s perspective) like Galloway to exploit. Galloway has demonstrated with his own recent election as MP that the ground is ripe for this because the pro-Gaza sentiment is on the rise.

To solve this, they have to do two things:

1. to create the illusion that labour is still the left
2. to remove from Galloway’s party the credentials of “only anti-status quo option”.

Here enters Farage’s reform, which does both things.

Farage’s reform sits to the right of the old tory party, so labour still looks like “the left”. And Reform presents itself, deliberately, as anti-status quo.

But Reform is not anti-status quo in the matter of Ish-rael-Gaza at all, is it? So how can it present itself as anti-status quo? by directing the attention of voters to a different conflict: UKRN. This is to me a huge red flag that suggests REform is a fabrication of the status quo and not a weapon against it and also gives a hint as to who really is controlling UK politics.

I think Farage’s party is the establishment’s response to Galloway’s party. The only threat to a labour win in England is Galloway’s party and independent candidates.

It is very revealing that during the “announcement” of Farage that he would enter the race, he claimed that his party would take votes from both conservative and labour party. But he never mentioned Galloway’s party despite Galloway winning by a landslide weeks before.

In my opinion, Farage is not anti-status quo at all. He is only pretending he is to hoover up disenfranchised votes that otherwise would go to Galloway’s party or independent candidates.

The whole election is, in my opinion, a massive con. A mockery of democracy. Here in Scotland we are being deliberately denied of the opportunity of a meaningful vote for Scotland’s independence. In England, they are being denied of the opportunity of a meaningful vote against the status quo.

The political system in the entire core is rotten to its core. The only way to change anything is to vote against that system to end it, not within it to indirectly preserve it.

“You have to actively vote for someone else likely to defeat them”

Actually no. If there is nobody else standing for what you want, the only thing you will achieve by “voting for somebody else” is to preserve the status quo you are wanting to get rid of.

From the perspective of Scotland, the dichotomy is anti-union vs union. The only way to stop this union is by either no longer sending MPs down to Westminster, or by electing MPs who will not take the seats and instead will reconvene Scotland’s old parliament.

There is only one political party standing on an abstentionst ticket, which is ISP. Unfortunately, ISP is only standing 4 candidates which will achieve nothing. We need at least sufficient number of candidates to ensure the number of Scotland’s MPs taking a seat falls below 45. Less than that will make not an iota of a difference.

This is why this election is a complete farce for Scotland. There is no real option to vote for Scotland’s independence. We are being denied that opportunity and all parties, one way or another, appear to be participating in this farce.

Voting for SNP, Labour, Libdems, Tories, Greens, Reform and I dare say Alba, will make not an iota of difference. They are all willing to swear allegiance to the English king and take the seats to continue giving legitimacy to Westminster as UK parliament so it can continue abusing Scotland and ransacking its resources.

If what you want is Scotland’s independence, then there is absolutely no point in voting for any of them.

From the perspective of Scotland, Farage is just as status quo as Starmer is. He is for preserving the union, so voting for Reform only serves to endorse the status quo of the union and therefore will be a complete waste of your vote if what you want is to end the union.

I am sure I am not the only one who has been wondering what the hell is Farage trying to achieve this time.

Brexit has been a disaster for the average household. Our food bills have skyrocketed. The quality of our food, no longer having to follow European standards, has become shite. Supermarkets in Scotland are innundated with English produce, so Scotland’s farms and agriculture have not been able to profit from the gap left by European produce. To hide this, we are presented with oversized UJs plastered on the products and making it even more difficult to find out where the product actually comes from. If you try to buy from Amazon, any product that comes from Europe and that used to be cheap before, is ridiculously expensive now. This is what we need to thank Farage for.

Farage is given a considerable amount of tv airtime considering it is a brand new party that has no MPs in Westminster. We all know the BBC and other TV channels are nothing but propaganda mouthpieces of the establishment. So, if Farage is on TV that much, it is because the establishment wants him to be.

Let’s compare that to the situation of Galloway’s party. How much do you hear about them? How much British TV airtime is Galloway being given? At least Galloway’s party has one MP. Yet, who gets more airtime, Farage or Galloway?

The real purpose behind Farage’s party is everybody’s guess. Personally, what I see is the following:

The powers that be, at whatever side of the Atlantic they sit, have already decided long time ago that pro-war against RS, pro-Ihs-rl and pro-genocide Labour would be in n10 this time.

To achieve this they had to pull Labour a mile and a half towards the right, so in practice, it is as close as Cameron’s Tory party as it could possibly be. It is, at all practical effects, the tory party under a labour flag.

There are two problems with this. First, labour and tories are undistinguishable. SEcond, moving to the right leaves a gap on the left, and this gives an opportunity for somebody traditionally left-orientated and very much anti-status quo (from England’s perspective) like Galloway to exploit. Galloway has demonstrated with his own recent election as MP that the ground is ripe for this because the pro-GZ sentiment is on the rise.

To solve this, they have to do two things:

1. to create the illusion that labour is still the left
2. to remove from Galloway’s party the credentials of “only anti-status quo option”.

Here enters Farage’s reform, which does both things.

Farage’s reform sits to the right of the old tory party, so labour still looks like “the left”. And Reform presents itself, deliberately, as anti-status quo.

But Reform is not anti-status quo in the matter of Ish-rl vs GZ at all, is it? So how can it present itself as anti-status quo? by directing the attention of voters to a different conflict: UKRN.

I think Farage’s party is the establishment’s response to Galloway’s party. The only threat to a labour win in England is Galloway’s party and independent candidates.

Farage is not anti-status quo at all. He is only pretending he is to hoover up disenfranchised votes that otherwise would go to Galloway’s party or independent candidates.

The whole election is, in my opinion, a massive con. A mockery of democracy. Here in Scotland we are being deliberately denied of the opportunity of a meaningful vote for Scotland’s independence. In England, they are being denied of the opportunity of a meaningful vote against the status quo.

This political system is rotten to its core. The only way to change anything is to vote against it to end it, not within it to indirectly preserve it.

I see Mr Farage has picked up on the obvious, moving NATO troops to with 60 miles of Moscow was not a good idea unless you want to provoke a reaction.

Usual BBC reaction parroting their Westminster masters.

Wonder how this will play out with the masses

Xaracen.

Thank you for your comment yesterday. I apologise for my late response as I had to take my my spouse to hospital,

Quick note, I posted on Stu’s previous thread so as not to interupt this one to much.

I will probably spoil my ballot. I do not know if there are any biological realist indy candidates standing in this constituency. I can’t vote for Drew Hendry for obvious reasons – faux indy and genderwoo. Unfortunately the 2nd fav is a libdem so more genderwoo

Starmer is being put in place to privatise the NHS – notice how Labour talks about appointments rather than employees. The social democratic pact and the welfare state in general is being dismantled across Europe because it’s too expensive for declining economies to support. Instead the future is going to be about American-style survival of the fittest. Thatcher tried to start it and failed. Truss and Cummings tried to revive it but it was too far, too fast. Now Starmer is going to get it started, but more gradually.

Farage is at best just the front-man for the Truss faction of the Conservatives. Once the dust has settled from the election and the reforms are starting the Conservatives will regroup. The Chingford Skinhead must be rubbing his hands with glee.

Shug says:
22 June, 2024 at 10:56 am

I see Mr Farage has picked up on the obvious, moving NATO troops to with 60 miles of Moscow was not a good idea unless you want to provoke a reaction.
……………………………..

Shug, if there are NATO troops within 60 miles of Moscow, they are either in Ayrshire somewhere, or dead in Russia.

Moscow in Russia is about 500 miles (800km) from the nearest NATO member countries, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania.

If I wanted 80% ( pish ) water , GM’d , ” flavour-enhanced ” , chemical-pumped gammon I’d vote for Farage/Reform . I don’t

I totally understand why people like Mac – appalled ,as many of us are, by the grotesqueries of U.K/West Politics – believe voting for F/R is the best option available .

I stated my disagreement with this perception on a previous post – as have – brilliantly , Mia , above : and others .

This has zero to do with ” lily white hands ” and everything to do with having an innate antipathy to snake-oil .

As Mia says ….there are reasons why Farage is being ” enabled ” . None of those reasons have concern for * ordinary * people at their core .

Note… Farage has nothing to say about what’s happening in G..a and whilst his comments re U are correct/welcome I seriously doubt they would manifest in the UK’s disengagement from that U.S created disaster in the event of him and his Party becoming the Government : unlikely as that scenario is ATM , on current trends it’s not at all an improbable future possibility .

How often have we witnessed supposed ” Anti-Establishment ” figures rapidly shed their values once they’ve secured power ( eg Baloney Meloni ) and then finding out it was the Establishment that was behind their success all along ?

Voting for Reform is akin to being given a choice between having your right leg or left leg amputated . Whichever option you choose , you’ll still be left severely handicapped .

The SNP and Nicola must love to hear of people spoiling their ballots, and it doesn’t matter what they write on them.

Voting very rarely gives you an opportunity to vote for what you want. The forthcoming election is no different from any other — we are really voting to stop the people and policies that we dislike the most, as is nearly always the case.

Voting for a unionist party might seem like an unpleasant idea, but the unionists didn’t betray you by pretending they were pro-independence.

I can respect those who believe in remaining in the union — I might find the idea repulsive and strongly disagree but people are entitled to that standpoint.

I can’t respect a party that betrayed me, a party that lied to me, stabbed me in the back, tricked and deceived me.

Voting for a unionist party to teach the betrayers a lesson isn’t just some act of thoughtless revenge — it is a necessary message that must be sent to all politicians going into the future.

If you genuinely care about independence and want your kids to have a chance of achieving it, you have no choice but to do everything possible to destroy the SNP. Actually, that’s the very least you can and must do, having let Sturgeon and her gang screw everything up so badly.

Sturgeon’s SNP happened on our watch. We should be ashamed of that and we should be ashamed about talking about spoiling ballots too when they could be used towards making amends.

A spoiled vote is as good as a vote for Nicola; and she’s still there, controlling everything, preventing the party from even discussing her and her husband’s most sinister and dubious antics.

Don’t spoil your ballot. Pin it to the SNP’s liver.

The problem with voting Reform as a way of saying “fuck you” to every other party is that absolutely nobody will know that you’re saying “fuck you”. It will instead be seen as you actively supporting Reform; if lots of you do that, the increased number of Reform votes will be seen as increased popular support, convincing the media that Reform is a serious party (instead of just another Farage grift), so giving them more publicity. Is that what you really want?
You’ll basically be saying “fuck you” to yourself!

@Andy Anderson 9.43am

Receipts required I’m afraid. The only time I’ve seen anyone try to justify their case they’ve had their arses handed to them by people who knew what they were talking about like Roddy Dunlop KC putting Sara Salyers back in her box a few months ago.

If the Salvo Liberation case were so strong, we’d have neutral international legal and constitutional experts supporting their case…..so where’s the evidence?

It’s not the plans of traditional parties that are lacking Andy, it’s the snake oil being touted by Alf Baird, Salvo and Liberation Scotland which has no serious support, and would take longer and be more contested than just actually doing the work and constructing a pro-independence majority to win via plebiscitary elections.

No confirmatory referendum is necessary, no Constitutional Convention of doubtful legitimacy and provenance required, no fruitless navel gazing about 300 year old treaties nobody cares about and which are about as relevant as the Schleswig-Holstein question.

Ellis

It has you shitting yourself.

& Stop name dropping Dunlop. He’s not a constitutional lawyer & didn’t put anyone in their box. He openly admitted

A. He wasn’t a constitutional lawyer.
B. He only had time for a glance cause he wasn’t being paid, obviously.

So stop trying to claim he said something he didn’t.

How does this Convention prove that it speaks for the majority of Scots Breeks?
Who calls it in to existence?

For the umpteenth time of saying so, it doesn’t have to. It doesn’t require a democratic mandate to declare a contract or treaty breached, just the act of breaching it will suffice. The Treaty of Union has been breached repeatedly, but nowhere more graphically than Scotlands undemocratic and unconstitutional subjugation over Brexit..

As for who calls it into existence… the far more appropriate question is what calls it into existence, and the mandate for defending Scotland’s sovereign integrity comes Westminster’s assault on that sovereign integrity.

But to be specific about who; does it matter who instigated the 1689 Convention of the Estates which judged the conduct of James VII unworthy of a monarch and deposed him? The mandate does not come from “who” actually got to their feet, but “whether” the Constitutional impropriety warrants the calling of a Convention to address the issue.

I submit that Scotland’s unconstitutional subjugation very much does warrant a modern day equivalent of a Convention of the Estates.

Think about it…. You are handing ‘Sir Keir’ a unprecedented giant landslide mandate with hardly any opposition MPs left in the house of commons and crucially four clear years without any opportunity to vote him out or stop him.

It is not the NHS I’d be worrying about (although that is no doubt fucked as well).

Are todays generation ready for conscription. That is going to be one rude awakening.

Mac,

Scotlands children would not be made to loose their lives at war or have their arms and legs blown off under Westminster as cannon fodder conscription if Scotland was a independent Country,

Andy Ellis,

Scotland does not require a Civic Nationalism one State government control you keep enspousing,
We are not asking for it, and you will not persuade us of it, and calling out and othering Scottish people whom object to global policies ain’t gonna convince us either of it after Scotland has lived experienced it for the past three hundred years.

The Scottish Greens have called on the next UK government to lift “the undemocratic and discriminatory Westminster veto against the Gender Recognition Reform.”

However, the demand from the party’s equalities spokesperson, Maggie Chapman, is unlikely to be successful, with Sir Keir Starmer yesterday telling Scottish journalists there would “be no change of position on that” if his party formed the next UK Government.

Going to the Firhill business centre is not campaigning and chapping the doors of Maryhill Nicola.

It’s a stage managed press conference. She’ll be with her partner in crime – Val McDermid – that chubby orc – The lesbian comedian that isn’t funny and that other one.

David Hannah @ 13.12.

Gosh, David, you surely don’t place any credence in a politician, far less Sir Keir, who promises, “no change in that position”.
This from a man who can’t say what a woman is when one of his own honest women MPs is being threatened and attacked for stating that there are two sexes. But can ‘agree with Tony’ when the warmonger Blair decides that women don’t have penises.
Sir Keir, the man who makes a flip flop appear stable and a weather vane seem positively static !

Look for the love of Christ just don’t vote in the English GE, it doesn’t matter how many indy minded MPs we send there THEY CANNOT change a f*ckin thing, all you will be doing if you vote in this foreign election is to give Scottish politicians a good living and their parties a cash boost via Short Monies.

“KEIR Starmer has bluntly refused to participate in negotiations for another Scottish independence referendum.

During a visit to West Lothian, the Labour leader said he would not participate in any talks if the SNP wins a majority of Scottish seats – something the SNP have agreed would give them a mandate to give “democratic effect” to independence.

Earlier this week the First Minister urged Scots to vote for his party to put pressure on the next UK Government to allow another independence referendum.

Speaking to Bauer Media during his visit, Starmer was asked if he would deal with the Scottish Government if the threshold was met.

“No,” he said.”

Northcode

Good reminder, Appreciate the link,

“I’m not in the least concerned about Salvo, still less shitting myself. I find them rather endearing in a way”

Ellis.

Why would a Wingate W*nker like you be concerned, its for your handlers to be worried about Salvo and Liberation, that’s why they’ve have created fake Salvo and Liberation websites to distract folk because THEY ARE shitting themselves.

@ SusanAHF at 11.14: no candidate who isn’t genderwoo [in Inverness, Skye and W Ross].

Socialist Equality Party are standing – I googled them but they only talk about being anti-war in Palestine and Ukraine, anti-capitalism and anti-Labour Party.

Good afternoon, Mrs Che. Hope you’re having a good day.

Geezo Oh, Roooshhi-a-n co-ordinated strikes in U last night did a terrible amount of damage to not just military hardware and personnel but to energy infrastructure.

It was such a huge co-ordinated strike that the Polish launched fighters over their own skies fearing the worst, unlike Ellis they were shitting themselves.

Nobody gives a fuck about spoilt ballot papers. They go in a pile and are forgotton about.

They achieve nothing.

Less in fact than staying home as it wastes your time.

The only person that ever reads whatever you scrawl on them is you.

Sven on Sir Kier:

“This from a man who can’t say what a woman is when one of his own honest women MPs is being threatened and attacked for stating that there are two sexes. But can ‘agree with Tony’ when the warmonger Blair decides that women don’t have penises.”

Outstanding contribution Sven – I totally agree.

Can someone help me? I’m looking to find up to date opinion polling on Scotland’s views towards Gender Self ID?

I’ve found this interestingly Sir John Curtice has compared Gender Critical feminists to an “aids moment.”

“The critical feminists have the had the better of the argument. The question we have to ask is whether Isla Bryson is an Aids moment. The Aids scare moved public opinion for a while against same-sex relationships in the late 80s. The point is will it necessarily indicate the long-term trend, as Aids did not, or is it the case that eventually we will get more liberal?”

“They achieve nothing”

They will achieve far more than what casting votes to send MPs to Westminster has achieved for the last 300 years.

The only thing Scotland has achieved by sending MPs to Westminster is to legitimate that parliament as the UK parliament and to empower it to continue abusing Scotland and bleeding it dry.

If you want independence for Scotland then the way to start that process is by disempowering Westminster so it can no longer claim it is acting on Scotland’s behalf. You do that by removing Scotland’s MPs from that parliament, just like Ireland did.

You have two routes in front of you to remove MPs from Westminster:

Route 1 – by casting a vote for party/candidate standing on an abstentionist ticket that will not swear allegiance to the crown and will not take the seat.

Route 2 – by denying MPs a vote altogether. You can do that by abstaining completely and not casting a vote, or by spoiling your ballot or by repurposing your ballot.

Until 8 May 20

Until now nobody paid attention to spoiled ballots because the number was low. If the number starts to climb, they will have to be paid attention to because they represent a valid route to cast a vote against the whole system.

Until now, mass disenfranchisement has been successfully hidden behind “low turnout”. Spoiled ballots cannot be hidden behind the excuse of “low turnout”

Folk voting for Reform to “make a point” – remember all those democrats who voted for Trump because Clinton was chosen over Sanders?
Remember what happened after that?
You’ll be the Trumpers of Scotland if you do that.

” Nobody gives a fuck about your feelings or your clever way of looking at things… ”

But everybody is awestruck at your ” clever way of looking at things ” , eh , H ?

What I don’t give a fuck about is this utterly meaningless G.E .

” Smash the SNP ” , aye , great , what then ?

Where is the entity that could – meaningfully – replace them ?

Even if the SNP return zero MPs it makes not one iota of difference : much as that scenario is exactly what they deserve

The only thing that could possibly make a difference is a battering for the SNP leading to an internal revolution in that Party , one that leads to the clearing-out of the dross and a return to their core mission ; and I see no prospect of that happening , whatever the outcome of the G.E

Needless to say ….this is not , emphatically NOT to suggest ANYONE should vote for that ridiculous bunch of con-merchants : by all means , send OUT the clowns , just don’t expect that doing so will end the circus .

My remarks re Salvo/ALBA are about the future , eg the next S.E and beyond

What happens in WM is of complete irrelevance to me ; as it is completely irrelevant to Scotland .

Testing

link to tinyurl.com

Joe Rogan, Elon Musk and JK Rowling: How Scotland’s culture war infected the West
The seeds were sown in the divisive independence campaign of 2014.

If the world has gone mad, critics will say that Scotland led the way.

Article from March 2024

Anyone wanting to know who is behind Keir Starmer look up LFOI. Anyone wanting to know who is behind Yvette Cooper, she has a pro Windrush piece in todays Guardian, look up LFOI. Anyone who wants to know who was behind Windrush…

Labour = War
Last Labour Government equalled war.

I think everyone has forgotten all about that.

Remember the Chilcot Inquiry. Nothing happened.

Labour about to be in power again. War criminal Blair advising Starmer & Sarwar that men have penises and woman have a vagina

link to tinyurl.com

Douglas Alexander accused of war crimes by nationalist rival

ISP and Alaba are not fielding candidates in my constency. The UK elections are first past the post. Therefore, I am going to use my vote by not voting FOR any part but rather voting AGAINST. This entails me putting my ‘X’ with the SNP because the characteristics of this newly gerrymandered consituetcy, the Tory boy has a real chance of winning. I don’t want to be represented by a Tory.

The ideal situation vis a vis voting would be if nobody turned out to vote.

That will never happen.

The next best thing would be low turn out + high % spoiled ballots.

Either way I don’t think anyone in power will pay a blind bit of attention.

Does anyone thing politicians care what the electorate think?

They just be pleased to have gotten a seat on the gravy train.

Do you think being I’m cynical or just not a very good liar.

Did we ever find out how many ‘Believers in Biology’ there are in Scotland?

@James Che 1.07pm

Scotland does not require a Civic Nationalism one State government control you keep enspousing,
We are not asking for it, and you will not persuade us of it, and calling out and othering Scottish people whom object to global policies ain’t gonna convince us either of it after Scotland has lived experienced it for the past three hundred years.

You and yer handful of xenophobic, bigoted muckers BTL here don’t speak for Scotland either thankfully James! You can’t persuade sentient spam. Your distaste for globalism and western values won’t convince the overwhelming majority of Scots who don’t share your fringe nutter views, however loudly and often you howl to the moon.

Nobody sane cares about what happened 300 years ago. Most folk live in the here and now and care about day to day issues.

They know how independence can be achieved, and it isn’t via wishing really hard and expecting the courts or people abroad to drop it in our laps because we can’t persuade a majority of all Scots to grow a pair and put an X on a ballot paper.

Nothing else will do.

@Geri 1.04pm

Still no answer.

Get back to us when you have an answer.

I have answered. The fact you weren’t listening or lack the wit to understand simple propositions is your own problem.

There’s no reason the British nationalists would refuse to accept a pro-independence majority in plebiscitary election, but would accept it from a plebiscite. There’s nothing in international law, history or legal precedent which makes the latter definitive while the former isn’t. In fact many countries with much less going for them than Scotland have achieved independence without recourse to referendums.

We’re no worse off if Westminster were to refuse to recognise plebiscitary elections than if they refused to recognise the outcome of a referendum, whether S30 sanctioned or not.

If they WERE ever to simply refuse to recognise a clear majority of Scots voting in favour of independence, in response to a clear question, then it’s up to Scots to make it abundantly clear that they aren’t asking, they’re taking.

If we lack the collective courage to do so, then we don’t deserve to be independent and are a disgrace to those who wrote the Declaration of Arbroath 700 years ago, who would rightly scorn such lilly livered descendants.

Is that clear enough for you, or do I have to draw you a picture for you to get it? Or perhaps wipe the spittle, if that’s what it is, from your screen….that ought to work.

In the meantime, Sarah & Co are working on that answer by legal means. Not loading Westminster with 56 fcking grifters again that wastes everyone’s time. It’s like Hot Shots part deux “We’re sending in the men to rescue the men” Westminster & it’s branch office at Holyrood is the butt of their joke. Nothing will be achieved in either until the treaty is put to bed.

And yet still no answer from you (or indeed any other moonhowler) about which legal, political and constitutional experts are backing up the Salvo snake oil.

It’s not that hard, surely?

All this feverish circle jerking by the handful of sad inadequates taken in by the unicorns and rainbows arguments, yet nary an article by anyone of note to support their hare brained ideas. If it’s so easy to end the Treaties of Union, to impeach Holyrood, to invoke Salvo, to convene and Convention, recall the Estates…..how come nobody has done anything about it for 300 years?

More to the point, why hasn’t anyone done it now? If it’s so self evidently true, and such an obvious route to shortcutting British nationalist machinations…..why haven’t Sara Salyers and her mates already done it?

Shouldn’t they be in court now, filing papers, getting all the great legal minds they’ve convinced to work pro bono for the inevitable victory of their slam dunk case.

Get back to us when they do won’t you?

Yes Anton & children.

Actually it would be fair to say political parties have turned their back on men women & children.

Too many wicked people in politics.

It’s horrendous though, the thought of the likes of wee duggie Alexander and the calorific Macdougall on the gravy train. Scotland being jobbied on from altitude.

And meanwhile the new Westminster government under Labour will next year force all of our 18 year old children to undertake mandatory military national service.

And if they don’t they will be denied bank accounts and have their driving licences rescinded to prevent them driving.

Fascism, forced military draft, removal of the rights to have the means to earns and spend or drive, folks need to fight this. But they will get no succour from Starmer and his equally neo fascist Labour Party. Starmer has not uttered a cheep about the proposal which is well advanced because like Sunak and the Tories he is for it. He is part of the neo liberal neo fascist corporate regime that has not just Scotland but England in its grip.

Be interesting to see how drafting and trying to force youngsters into British military service will go down in Northern Ireland.

Methinks the place will rock with that. Indeed I suspect the policy will turn the whole UK into one big shit bowl.

Mia again demonstrating how child-like and out-of-touch her grasp of politics is, along with a few others that in the past I would have expected more from.

As if anyone gives a toss what some pleb from Fuckwitsville North writes on his spoiled ballot. I can’t believe I even have to say that.

For the first time ever I’m embarrassed at what visitors might think of us in here.

From an SNP perspective, spoiled ballots are a win — their real fear is that we will use our votes to oust them. They’re laughing at those who those think spoiling ballots is a good idea, just as they’re laughing at those who are going to vote SNP because they want independence.

I’m not laughing at you. I’m calling you mugs.

Northcode.

Good evening young man,

I am fine today and spouse was outside lying in the sunshine on cushions I made for him to make him comfy, all after noon as he has been extremely unwell for past five days, taking him plenty of liquids as he became dehydrated through this week,
The rest of my afternoon I spent washing a Carpet outside by hand, and then went crazy and decided to do all the rest of the household rugs in the bath, I am just in and finished chicken curry I cooked yesterday,
But happy all in all because spouse is bit better today,

“And yet still no answer from you (or indeed any other moonhowler) about which legal, political and constitutional experts are backing up the Salvo snake oil.”

Ellis

Even if I did know I wouldn’t tell a Wingate W*nker like you, Salvo/Liberation are rightly playing their cards close to their chests.

Chinthe t*ssers want to know every detail of any proposed plan, and claim its all for the benefit of the public.

Interesting Farage now has the front page running up to the election. Shows the benefit of picking a fight. You get noticed and the answer you.

Unlike swinney who they gave dismissed.

What a lesson

Farage chararistcs, usual gets to the point of winning and then ups and leaves for fresh fields, before the job is complete, the only way he will stay the course is if he actual gets to be leader of Westminster,
He has had that as a ambition for a long time, to be leader of Englands Britain.

Reform UK are anti Scottish Yoon Bigots. I think some folk need to smell the coffee. They will split the Anti Scottish Yoon Bigot vote so that is fine with me.

link to scotsman.com

End conversion practices – is the banner John Swinney chooses to march behind.

He obviously hates doctors and hates women.

Worse yet. I think its the ultimate insult to our national identity.

That thousands of people and our leaders come out to march on these days.

They want to destroy the west and implement the Georgia Guidestones.

with this new Nazi fascist flag.

Blackhack, 22 June, 2024 at 11:25 am

“Reform UK,
formerly known as the Brexit Party,
formerly known as the Referendum Party,
formerly known as the United Kingdom Independence Party,
formerly known as the Anti-Federalist League,
formerly known as British………”
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Your potted political history of Reform is rubbish.

First, the UKIP has a continuing, separate existence, albeit skeletal.

The Referendum Party, a creature of Sir James Goldsmith, was a temporary, single issue construct as it’s name implies. It had nothing to with the evolutionary political chain you present. It died along with its founder in 1997. It was NEVER connected with UKIP.

Your claim about the precedence of the Anti-Federalist league is accurate – about the only statement that is. But to claim the BNP as its predecessor is utterly absurd. The AFL started life as a Euroskeptic pressure group inside the Tory party, founded by a Scotsman named Alan Sked who opposed the Maastricht Treaty. He previously had been a Liberal and indeed stood for that party in the 1970 general election. He became disillusioned with the Tories and founded the AFL as a separate party, later renaming it the United Kingdom Independence Party

The fascist genealogy you construct for Sked’s AFL/UKIP is the apotheosis of historical ignorance and failure to fo basic research.

Unlike swinney who they gave dismissed…

With Swinney poncing about at a Pride March, I’m actually glad he’s punted into obscurity so I don’t have to watch the Independence Movement and Scottish electorate being trolled by such a characterless non entity as Swinney.

Not long now until he’s confirmed as an irrelevant footnote in the story of Scotland.

Whoever bought this Trangender influence over Sturgeon and her clique which has destroyed the SNP, must be dreadfully disappointed if they wanted Transgender issues promoted and wider acceptance of weirdos secured, but absolutely over the moon if they wanted Scottish Independence derailed.

Option three? Perhaps they were killing two birds with one stone. Gotta hand it to Mi5. They’re pros.

Breeks

23 June, 2024 at 6:55 am

“I don’t have to watch the Independence Movement and Scottish electorate being trolled by such a characterless non entity as Swinney.”
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Swinney actually manages to make even Starmer appear solid and dynamic by comparison!

Seeing images of that gorm-free jelly baby Swinney & his band of dolly mixtures taking selfies @ – what is it now …Pride Decade, why don’t they just declare Pride Eternity ? – all looking so pleased with themselves , so keen to show us how * on message * they are with the D.I.E Right-Think doctrine ; then reading of The Undertaker joining-in the Twin Cunts – Starnak & Sumer’s ” condemnation ” of Farage re the latter’s remarks re Upaine has shaken my intention – in the absence of any real pro-Independence candidate in my constituency – to repurpose my vote with #ENDTHEUNION .

My loathing for these prancing ponces is so acute I’m seriously considering voting for the candidate with the best chance of beating the SNP – the anonymous-until-election-time Drew Hendry , last photo I seen of him he was posing in Inverness with The Stooge , the photo captioned with him saying how proud and pleased he was by the Queen of Shite taking time out of her busy schedule of telling the World how fckn great she is to visit The New Scot Highlands .

Not sure if I’ll be able to actually put an X beside the name of any Unionist candidate – it goes against my every political/emotional instinct – but these fuckers don’t just deserve a good electoral slap : they deserve to be erased from the political landscape . Permanently .

Nu SNP have went from an awful slapstick comedy-of-errors farce to a bizarre , sex-obsessed ” psychological thriller ” – minus the thrills but with the farce retained .

In fact they’ve invented a whole new genre – Tartan Farce Noir

@Effijiy 8.47am

Average polling for the Tories in Scotland between December 2019 and June 2024 is 18.5%, so it’s not as if Scotland is that much better to be honest! However much we might detest the Tories and all they stand for, even in an independent Scotland, there will always be a significant number of centre-right voters, just as there are everywhere else.

Hopefully the only positive here is that fewer Scots are inclined to support far right zoomers like Reform, just as they’re unlikley to support far left cranks.

link to electoralcalculus.co.uk

100% on this article. 100%

I am holding my nose and voting for the party best able to boot out the SNP corpse in my area.

Alba are playing too nice.

Whatever you say about our ‘Holiday Boy’, I’m on the right side of history. The side which can’t walk past starving cats. Sunak or Starmer would drop kick one into the middle of next week, if it dared interrupt their holiday! Not that you see many starving cats in 6 star resorts. Feed stray cats!? Not unless the press had been summoned in advance.

Robert Hughes @ 8:55 am

“Tartan Farce Noir”

Aye, Swinney and the SNP gang of hypocrites have some brass neck accusing Farage of being a tractor. Farage probably has more chance of delivering Scottish independence than culturally assimilated Scots elites ever have; Cleese’s ‘obedient retainers seeking social status’ in a colonial society that aye renders them subordinate. Colonialism can also speak wi a douce Scots accent and patter, as Fanon implied.

Sae better the devil ye ken, an whit ye can see, especially as we enter the third (and final) phase of decolonization:

link to yoursforscotlandcom.wordpress.com

I have repurposed my vote and will post it next week.
There was no other option for me.

This is our latest collection of comments from here.

If you haven’t checked it out before (we’ve been doing this since the start of the year) please have a swatch, imagine what it might be like to see Wings btl for the first time, then consider how different it is when the usual trolls and gobshites are taken out of the picture.

🙂

link to offtopicscotland.com

@Hatuey
Generally good points and I’d agree with all of it – except the vaccine scepticism because I don’t know the full science on it. There was profiteering certainly, but I don’t know that there was any malice beyond that.

Opposing the war and genocide is spot on though

An English Labour government at an alien parliament will step up the process of clawing back powers from Holyrood. Union Jack suit man Ian Murray will have his hands on the purse strings for Scotland.

Its akin to US POTUS Biden controlling the purse strings for the Rooshhi-an D-um-a.

Wake the f*ck up Scots and end this illegal union.

“The Labour manifesto contains a pledge to “restore decision-making over the allocation of structural funds to the representatives of Scotland” – but rather than give control over the funding back to the devolved government in Edinburgh, it will simply be shifted between UK government departments.

“Labour’s shadow Scottish secretary Ian Murray said that a Scotland Office under his control will be “turned into a spending department”.

Murray is expected to be handed control over Scottish allocations from pots such as the Shared Prosperity Fund, which was brought in to replace EU structural funds lost to Brexit.”

Before the UK left the European Union, these funds were given to the Scottish Government to spend as they chose, but under the Tories, they were controlled by the Department for Levelling Up, the Department for Transport, and the Treasury.”

The Labour manifesto contains a pledge to “restore decision-making over the allocation of structural funds to the representatives of Scotland” – but rather than give control over the funding back to the devolved government in Edinburgh, it will simply be shifted between UK government departments.”

Good afternoon, Towbar.

On the poison, note that the State of Kansas is currently undertaking legal action against Pfizer on the basis that they (Pfizer) knew it was dangerous and concealed the evidence. Very easy for you to validate that, of course.

There’s much more than that though and if you want to find out more I’d recommend following John Campbell on Youtube.

Alternatively, just sit and wait a few months because we are talking about the biggest medical scandal in human history and everyone will know about it soon enough.

Here’s an interestingly prophetic tune for you all on this Sunday afternoon, from 1992…

link to youtube.com

“Injected with a poison, injected with a poison…”
“there’s a rainbow inside your mind…”

After a lifetime (76 and counting) of supporting the SNP I will be voting Alba in the GE. I warned my MP and MSP in writing at least twice that SNP policies were anti-democratic, anti-independence and a mish-mash of immature wish-list ramblings. I held them and all elected SNP representatives personally responsible for allowing the clique to dictate these policies. Therefore, they are responsible for their own demise because they disregarded the warnings of many supporters.
There is an article in the National today on my MP and the conclusion is maybe he will hold his seat and maybe he won’t. I still won’t vote for him.
As an aside to that, when the old supporters left in droves they took a lot of experience of elections with them. This left people running elections who had no experience of working to strict rules. Hence it was a joke to use postage stamps meant for parliamentary work. Who was going to find out? Weren’t they clever? That is what you get running campaigns when the only experience these people have is wishful thinking eg sex = gender and hey presto, it does!
Hell skelp it into them.

Which catagory does the Scottish devolved parliament fit into,?

Not a Scottish parliament but passing hate crime laws for Scotland ?

Not the “one and same parliament of Great Britain” but accepting british laws?

The Scottish devolved parliament is a illegal Colonial Hybrid Parliament that is not agreed to by the Scots or their old Scottish parliament in any of the Articles of the treaty of union.

Westminster parliament over hundreds of years has gone over the top in effort in its debased treatment of Scotland and Scots to ensure and takes on the mind set that Scotland feels that it is to Wee, Too poor and To stupid.

Scotland is one of the most important Countries in the world today, strategically, politically, geographically. And the most important regards all other treaties made within context and concept of being a one United kingdom,

Westminster parliament politically should have been much more aware of their actions and bias in keeping Scottish people more content and happy regarding fairness within the fallacious union,
For it can only be blamed on Westminster parliament itself that Scots and Scotland want to leave it behind when it treated “us like a Colony” of England rather than a equal in a treaty of union.

Grouser,

The SNP cannot pass Scots laws, they are not a Scottish parliament, they are not the ONE and SAME parliament of Great Britain either.

They are under a illegal Status in Scotland. They are an invented entity being neither one or the other, they are a ” amalgamated corporation conceptual entity ” that cannot pass Scottish laws or policies of or in Scotland over the Sovereign people of Scotland,

We just think they are real because the parliament down south put them here.
But the Westminster parliament down south breaches the treaty of union article 111 in doing so.

“I am not sure that you comprehend how important Scotland is in that treaty of Union and why there is so much effort made by nearly every nation and Globalist ideology to keep Scotland believing they are in the treaty of union and there is no way out for Scotland , to keep Scotland under the thumb and under tight control.”

Oh I’m well aware of it James.

The USA needs Scotland in the union we are at the bottom of the the North Atlantic’s Defensive Arc that gives an early warning to the Yanks of any warships military planes heading to North America, Iceland is at the top of the Arc.

England cannot afford to let Scotland go not just for economic reasons but for military reasons such as having their nuclear subs at Faslane, and Christ knows what else deep in the mountain at Coulport.

It all hinged on a Treaty that could never be, simply because our politicians and lords and nobles of the day (bought and paid for as they were) could not giveaway what they did not possess in the first place, and that is sovereignty in Scotland, that belongs to the people and they did not give their consent to any union.

Infact as the illegal rushed through treaty was signed in the basement of a corner shop in Edinburgh (the official lie is that it was signed in some Summer House without any untoward) the English spy Daniel Defoe, (he added the De to his name to make himself appear more interesting) reported that there was mass rioting in the streets above.

England cannot stop us from dissolving this illegal union, our biggest roadblocks to kicking this rancid illegal union into touch are the House Jock, and the foreign lying media that keeps the myth of the union going.

Grouser,

I hope you accept my My apologies, as usual iI am doing a hundred things at one time in one day,
I will go back an reread your post as soon as,

Repulicofscotland,

I see you do understand that the problem does not lie with any other Country other than Scotland and England and dissecting what is the reality of the treaty of union,
Because it appears that what we have told is not true,

For instance Queen Anne was officially the Queen of England and in line and succession to the throne of England when she gave Royal assent to the Scottish side of the treaty of Union and used a “reproduction Great Seal of Scotland” that was made in England during the time of William and Mary.

So Englands monarch was not Officially the Monarch of Scotland when the treaty was confirmed by Royal assent,
But was Extended to Scotland a few months after the fallacious treaty was signed / ratified,

I know its seems to be taken time for the jigsaw pieces to fit together, but that is because they don’t,
However it is helpful for all Scots to study the topic, that is what Salvo is doing and coming up with some amazing information for the rest of us we were unaware of , We cannot sit aside and just complain, we must intend to be active and highly informed ourselves in gaining knowledge.
For independence won’t just walk up to meet us at our door,
Sorry if it sounds like lecture, but the only thing that binds us is that agreement, is the monarchy issue and the reality of wether the treaty of union is valid,
Hanging on to politicians tails and hoping The politicians are going to do this is not an avenue that has had success, they are not going to do it for us, The Sovereign people in Scotland will.

Do we have to follow laws and policies that have No legal standing as “Scots laws” from a parliament that is not official a Scottish parliament is a new question I have been asking myself recently? Like the hate crime bill, as private rights in Scotland are wrote into the treaty of union
So if the treaty of union is valid, then that article would also be valid and not to be messed with,
Question every thing.
I will give you a good example of my questioning the legalities of something the Scottish government passed but did not pay attention to the details in next post, that they have had to back track on when I challenge the local Council,