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Posted on June 01, 2018 by

So this story is the front page of tonight’s Evening Times.

It’s a pretty slim piece deploying a Glasgow mother to attack the SNP-run city council over a recent increase in nursery fees, and it sounds like the new higher cost might be a pretty big deal to her.

“Marisa Murdoch, a TV production worker from the west end of Glasgow, has a five year-old son who is starting school this year and a one and a half year-old younger son who is in a council nursery part time.

She said nursery provision allowed her to return to work part time and was intending to return to work full time in November when her youngest turns two but has now had to reconsider her plans.

She said: “It is frustrating to say the least. If someone had said we need to increase the fees and it will improve the service and transform the system for everyone then that would have been more acceptable. I’m now looking at what I will have to earn to have my son in nursery full time.”

What was surprising was that the ET didn’t feel it was worth mentioning that in addition to being a “TV production worker”, Marisa is also the wife of Stuart Murdoch, from the celebrated Glasgow emo stalwarts Belle And Sebastian:

And given that Belle And Sebastian have sold millions of albums and concert tickets over the course of their career, including selling out the 18,000-seater Hollywood Bowl on several occasions, and are currently flogging their own Mediterranean cruise-liner festival at which the cheapest pleb-class steerage berths (not including travel) are £519 and the more luxurious options are £7,000 a head (plus taxes and fees):

…we could forgive readers a certain degree of scepticism over whether council nursery provision going from £2.54 an hour to £4 (still below the UK average) is really going to be a make-or-break deal for the band’s families.

Of course, lots of other people will be struggling with that stiff increase too (though households earning under £30,000 will be exempt), thanks to the highly challenging financial circumstances facing the council after it was landed with a £1 billion bill for its Labour predecessor’s prolonged failure to give women employees equal pay.

Indeed, Labour spent millions of pounds cynically fighting the women it had cheated in the courts for over a decade – enough on legal costs alone to have covered/postponed the nursery fee increase for two years, or phased it in much more gently. Many of them died before seeing a penny of the money they’d been robbed of.

Yet having run Glasgow for 75 of the last 84 years (including an unbroken 39 years before the SNP won in 2017) and being solely and entirely responsible for the huge weight now chained around the council’s neck, Labour didn’t let it stop them – in a display of brassnecked dishonesty breathtaking even by their standards – blaming the party that’s been in charge for less than a year:

It’s always worth seeing things in context, readers. And if you’re a newspaper looking to take a swipe at the SNP for trying to clean up Labour’s mess, that probably also includes the people you get to front your stories.

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jimnarlene

Nice piece of investigative journalism.

Black Joan

This is why the Rev deserves his huge crowdfunder success.
Outstanding work, as ever.

Ian Foulds

Well said, JimnArlene

Ross

Caught bonny.

John Moss

Fab!

What a great article. Accurate and to the point. Have you ever considered a career as a journalist? I hear the Evening Times is in need of one.

Think you should apply ?

Old Pete

What a chancer, the women is a disgrace. The ET, wouldn’t wipe my arse with it.

Scotspine

Oocha!

[…] Wings Over Scotland Walking like a peasant So this story is the front page of tonight’s Evening Times. It’s a pretty short […]

Confused

That’s the skiing holiday gone then!

The posh name and the “west end” get the spider senses tingling – but still, laser sharpness on show.

The theme for this evening will be slagging off this silly woman and/or Glasgow Council using the lyrics, direct or transformed of Belle and Sebastian.

I call the Rev as “The Boy with the guilty laugh … “

Street Andrew

More MSM pish dished.

Well done that man.

Merkin Scot

Excellent stuff, RevStu, I am printing a copy for a friend who came with me to one of Mr Murdoch’s early concerts (before he was Belle).

Robert J. Sutherland

a TV production worker from the west end of Glasgow

Oh dear, another middle-class media champion of the downtrodden masses. A Scottish speciality, it would seem.

And in a parallel universe where the Scottish media had some kind of professional ethical standards, you would think it would be fairly pertinent to mention the financial black hole into which the previous longstanding Labour administration placed the City of Glasgow due to its vile intransigent sexist practices, as Stu rightly reminds us.

But maybe that’s a picture somewhat too big for our latest sadly put-upon media pawn to consider.

Tinto Chiel

Proper journalism, then, eh, Rev?

“Holed below the waterline”?

Never trust a man with a Charles Trenet hat.

Graeme McCormick

Such ET articles are a death wish for papers. They never learn. It’s just possible that Scotland will be the first independent state without a conventional national press.

wee bud

That’s them deleted from Spotify!! I don’t think the Corbynista luvvies will miss my hard earned cash.. I bet she feels rather silly now.. Well done Rev,I’m surprised they haven’t tried to buy you off with a nice juicy msm salary.

Scot Finlayson

The collusion and corruption between Scottish Labour and Scottish Media ,TV news and newspaper, has been infesting our country for decades,

only now thanks to the SNP and a new breed of moral,ethical internet journalists we are now beginning to shine a light into the squalid,criminal abomination of Scottish Labour/Media.

mogabee

Bloody cheek!

Be sure your lies will always find you out. Quite sure that’s a maxim that we all strive for…well, nearly all!!

Perhaps they are in financial difficulties…

Gfaetheblock

So means testing is good today?

Stuart Murdoch has a also suffered from chronic illness for decades (CFS), so I suspect that childcare may be a challenge for the family.

1AlanM

The charges only apply to those earning over £30k pa and are giving those who earning less than that more free hours. The previous Labour administration applied charges to those earning over £25k and gave fewer free hours to qualifying parents.

shiregirl

Huh. That’s a pisser.

Removed from my Spotify.

Money must be tight for them, eh? Any excuse for a cheap dig.

Lollysmum

It’s no wonder the press & other political parties hate you. Marvellous work Stuart

winifred mccartney

Journalists – are there any left in Scotland – thank goodness for Wings – so sad that many will believe these headlines – and if labour complain, as I am sure they will, it should be pointed out to them very loudly that their previous actions have led to GCC being in such dire straights. To have taken equal pay for women through the courts for 10 years as they did – and the costs involved should be to their eternal shame, and the great ‘union’ man dare not open his mouth to complain, or low pay Sarwar, or lying Baillie, or numpty Kelly – every one of them should be hiding their faces. The MSM in Scotland is in its death throws and the sooner they are gone the better.

Helena Brown

With regard to Mr Murdoch’s chronic illness, if he has suffered this for decades then it must have been present when he was making the big bucks.
I assume he is still earning, the missus is still receiving a financial contribution from him, so why does she need to work. Unlike many much poorer Mums in Glasgow who have to find the money from somewhere.

Gfaetheblock

I have no idea of the murdochs net wealth or income, but any family that has health issues and young children to care for, irrespective of income, will be aware of the criticality of nursery care for the social development of the children and functioning of the family. They may or may not be financially impacted by the price rise, but they will understand the impact of other families in similar circumstances but may have less financial indepednace (or not) than them to access to support and caring.

Myrna mynkoff

Why is this family getting a subsided under 3 nursery place at present? The are for vulnerable families. I am a single parent and cannot get one. link to gfis.org.uk

Bobp

How can any non political person with an open mind read this, And not see the blatant msm unionist lies. What will it take to awaken some Scots from their 311 year lethargy?. Is corrie , eastenders,emmerdale ,and Britain’s got talent just aboot your ken?

James Brown

I’d be very surprised if either of her sons have ever been inside a council run nursery.

Morgatron

Brilliant work Stu.
Behind every headline eh!

Tattie-Boggle

Maybe hes as tight as a ducks arse and gives her heehaw. aye right

Fergus Green

Sad to say, I feel like deleting everything I have from Belle and Sebastian. They will never sound the same again.

Luigi

Another WoS torpedo slammed into the sides of MSM Titanica.

She’s going down. We are not quite at the bottom’s up stage yet, but not long now. She’s already listing badly.

ahundredthidiot

oh they are getting desperate aren’t they?

I can almost smell their fear

defo

“Day upon day of this wibbling gets you down…”

It’s meant to !

Bobp

Gfaetheblock 7.36pm .I don’t think Marisa Murdoch is too bothered about the “impactment ” on other less well off families. She’s obviously not stupid,so why then front an snpbaaad story?

Big Jock

I like Belle and Sebastian. I note they were quiet during Indy ref 2014. If he shares his wife’s anti SNP agenda, then along with Bowie I instinctively go off their music.

Az

Woah!!! I also twitched at west end TV production, but this is something else!

Is it just me, or is the BritScot press in meltdown now?

Gfaetheblock

Bobp

I don’t know the murdochs, so no idea, do you?

I do know about being in a family with ill health and a pre school child, so can understand what access to affordable child care means in those circumstances.

Big Jock

Murdoch backed indi in 2014. Just found an old article about it. I wonder why his wife is being used as an ordinary housewife. Maybe her link to MSM. Mind you he might be a Brit again by now. Apparently bewitched near the end of the campaign.

Big Jock

Of course no doubt the likes of Ruth will jump all over this. Saying nasty nats stalk poor family. The part they omit is the family used the media to attack the SNP. When we fight back we are vindictive.

Bobp

Gfaetheblock 8.10pm. I think the Murdoch’s are in a better financial situation to afford child care than your average family in Scotland. Dont you?.

yesindyref2

Yes, and since when is £4 DOUBLE £2.54? Ah, THAT’s why Labour got its sums wrong.

Gfaetheblock

Bobp

Yes, I suspect they are. But why would the wife of the Yes supporting musician be talking about this?

Empathy?

Concern for the wider society?

Or snpbaddd…..?

Big Jock

If it was empathy you don’t run to the media. You speak to the group involved and send a petition to Holyrood. This was all about her no mistake. She works for STV and will have been primed for the story.

Fred

Reminds ye of that nurse who had to go to the food-banks to exist!

t42

“Look into the sad puppydog eyes, not around the eyes, in the eyes, look into the eyes”-Kenny Craig.

Behold the very definition of virtue-signalling. Elites lying “to raise awareness”. Weapons of mass distraction.

Bobp

Gfaetheblock 8.29pm.dont think its the second. Obviously the 3rd option.

Smallaxe

Belle and Sebastian lyrics;

Jump to the beat of the party line
Jump to the beat of the party line
There is no one in here but your body dear
Jump to the beat of the party line

The party say jump, B & S say how high?
😉

Iain

I’m amazed, the press spouting pish.
What is the world coming to.
I’m shocked.

Stuart Gibbs

Gee I’ve gone right off Belle & Sebastian now, though I have suspected for a while that they were Yoons as BBC darlings they couldn’t be anything else…they are well named though, BS, ha..

Gfaetheblock

Helena brown @ 7.34

self-actualisation?

Cactus

Awwwe Marisa hen… my eyes are bleeding (said Dio).

I used tae go tae school wae B&S’s Isobel C.

Y’all up tae ra morra Dumfries?

Run wae the wolf!

Colin Alexander

Who’s going to the AUOB march for indy at Dumfries on Saturday 2 June?

Cactus

Ahm going, see you there Colin, cheers.

Soosider3

Stupid of Evening Times to use such an example as there are many ordinary folk that are going to be hit hard by this rise, and Yes Glasgow is financially in a mess a legacy of Labour misrule.
However the amount raised by these rises is comparatively small, I think it was stupid of SNP in Glasgow go go for this in this manner a stepped increase over several years would have achieved this, or guaranteeing that only new starts will pay the new scales.
To give you some context, a young single parent, working full time has 2 kids in nursery, 5 hours a day, cost just under £4000 a year, will have to find an additional £2400, now that is a chunk of money in anyones book
Sorry to say that my party has badly misjudged this one and handed Labour in Glasgow a huge stick to beat them with. Remember in Glasgow many seats are fairly marginal, this has done damage and a political price will be paid.

twathater

Do these people have no self awareness or are they willing pawns , they are being used to deliberately inflame and demonise people ( SNP GCC ) who are doing their best to run Glasgow services competently in the face of very challenging situations

I was employed by Glasgow council for 12 years when they were being run by liebour and was so disgusted and outraged at the various shenanigans being carried out that I quit , all under the watchful eye but being ignored by the bbc ,stv and the msm investigative reporters , they were shite then and are still shite

What really p’s me off is these liebour arse**les have created this and many other situations , tram fiasco ,PFI , yet they still get to walk away with their padded out pensions and shielded from blame or criminal charges by a media that is supposed to expose their criminality and incompetence

Gfaetheblock what would be ideal is for no childcare charges , with childcare and nursery provision being supplied by local authorities ,excluding privateers , perhaps you may want to suggest this to liebour and the brit nats but I doubt they would support it , b’cause Scotland and the EESSSEENNPEE are shite

Cactus

It’s a good point, the previous Glasgow labour administration really fucked things up for all of us, here in Glasgow.

The damage is NOW being undone.

BIG moves, in small steps.

Cheers Scotland’s SNP.

Dave McEwan Hill

Belle and Sebastion

belleandsebastian.com/

Dave McEwan Hill

Belle and Sebastian

belleandsebastian.com/

Rock

“Marisa Murdoch, a TV production worker from the west end of Glasgow”

Poor “ordinary” TV production worker.

These people have no shame.

Smallaxe

DMH, your link Dave,

link to belleandsebastian.com
🙂

Cactus

Aye a busy weekend shaping up for Scotland and Glasgow. Tomorrow morning is Dumfries and on Sunday ahm hosting an ‘event’ at the Botanic Gardens…

Go see inside for details.

FREE entry to all.

galamcennalath

I have absolutely no idea about the personal circumstances of the couple at the centre of this, but one thing we should perhaps bear in mind …. the media have a long history of getting statements from individuals and then spinning a shock-horror story to suit an agenda using their input.

Just saying.

Big Jock

Stuart Murdoch net worth 16 million!!!
link to idolnetworth.com

Ken500

Is he too sick to watch his child P/T?

Big Jock

Ken with the money he has they could afford to pay all their friends nursery fees!

Jason Smoothpiece

I feel for any family who struggle with child care costs or struggle bring up a child I know its an expensive hobby.

First thing is British Nationalist Labour caused this the new SNP group are trying to sort the mess.

Anyway reminds me of a story about a nurse who went to food banks ………no wait that was a pish set up story also.

Nice one Stu.

Clootie

…and the MSM get another SNPbad story…without telling the full story.

ClanDonald

We were paying £7.50 an hour 14 years ago when my daughter was in nursery. £4 an hour is still hugely subsidised.

Sinky

Not sure what he thinks now but in 2014 Stuart Murdoch backed Indy.

link to theguardian.com

Dave McEwan Hill

Smallaxe at 10.02

Thanks

Probably an email to the Evening times would be very useful as well.

We are going to have to take these individuals and organs on and make them regret their behaviou.r

schrodingers cat

spot on
galamcennalath says:
1 June, 2018 at 10:07 pm
I have absolutely no idea about the personal circumstances of the couple at the centre of this, but one thing we should perhaps bear in mind …. the media have a long history of getting statements from individuals and then spinning a shock-horror story to suit an agenda using their input.

Just saying.

Ian Brotherhood

Just in case any non-Twitterers here may be interested in adding their votes, I’ve put a poll up asking:

‘How should the Yes movement respond to the OO/Arlene Foster march?’

Currently, 157 votes have been cast as follows:

Counter-march/demo 11%
Ignore it entirely 62%
Consumer strike 4%
Demand it be banned 24%

link to twitter.com

Can any Wingers who may be ‘in the know’ about such stuff clue us up about this Cowdenbeath gig and its importance? Why would Foster even consider attending? Some on Twitter are suggesting that the whole thing is a wind-up and that Arlene wouldn’t be daft enough to do it in the current political climate. And yet the BBC has been reporting, as ‘news’, all day, that she *is* doing it. It was discussed on Beattie’s lunchtime show with BTUKOK stalwarts Jack McConnell (Conservative) and Brian Whittle (Labour) both sounding extremely uneasy about it all.

I was told, a long time ago (by someone who may well have been talking out of his lowest hole) that the ‘big’ OO gathering shifts venues every marching season on a 13-yr cycle. Last year, if memory serves (possibly year before?) it was Saltcoats.

So, is this gig in Cowdenbeath the same thing?

Robert J. Sutherland

Sinky @ 22:38,

He may well still do. His mrs won’t necessarily agree, though. Especially if she works in the media. Job may depend on it, judging by the deathly omerta that seems to have taken grip of all those who work here for the BBC, STV, etc, despite the obvious very selective reporting that’s going on in these outfits these days. Despite the vetting, the workers can’t all be Labourite clones, surely…?

Then as gala @ 22:07, points out, the print media are not above using the innocent pawn for their own nefarious ends either.

Cactus

Aye aye, aye reiterarte Colin’s 9:32pm’er…

Whom is going tae Dumfries…?

Any peasants like?

Any winners?

Walk it.

Jockanese Wind Talker

Don’t do Twatter but FWIW @Ian Brotherhood says at 10:50 pm

My vote:

1. Demand ban

2. If no ban then definite counter demo

An Anti-Fascist counter demo of the size of AUOB March all stood static on the road at a choke point giving it “No Parasan” should be on the cards.

Make them turn and head back the same way they came (like in Glasgow in 1821).

link to wingsoverscotland.com

However I fear that’s exactly what the BritNat establishment may want a flashpoint to give them an excuse.

Smallaxe

Ian B,

Nothing on their website about Arlene Foster;
link to bandparades.co.uk

Ah feel durty noo.
🙁

Big Jock

Arlene was invited but has not yet accepted. I think she will be advised to steer clear. She is a bigot but not entirely devoid of some political savvy.

Scot Finlayson

@galamcennalath

no doubt about the Scottish news media manipulating and misquoting to force a story to their unionist agenda,

but she does work in the Scottish media so should be fairly cognisant of the nefarious nature of Scottish MSM journalists,

plus it`s not just an interview she has also allowed her and her wee wean to be pictured,

the whole thing reeks of collusion between Scottish Labour and Scottish journalism (two cheeks of the unionists arse).

bobajock

Investigation. A journalist – thanks Stu.

dakk

@ Cactus said

‘Whom is going tae Dumfries…?

Any peasants like?’

Sadly not this peasant Cactus as have to work Saturdays.

But wish all peasants have an another amazing day and hope the sun shines on the righteous.

PhilM

If they’re struggling to make ends meet, maybe Stuey and Marisa could rent a room in their mansion to EDF Claire, our previous wealthy, hard-luck story, and give her parents some peace: problem solved!!!

Capella

It is very sad, isn’t it, when the rich and famous have to fork out anything for services. Perhaps they should pay more tax.

I dread to think how the Duchess of Sussex will cope if Edinburgh introduces a tourist tax, as it has threatened to do. Photo ops on the Castle Esplanade will have to be sacrificed.

On hearing that his second pastry cook had to be sacked for economy, a wealthy Duke once complained, “Can’t a fellow have a biscuit any more?”.

Tragic

Jason Smoothpiece

We are above them.

We should ignore them.

Because we know better.

Forget the history of the Orange order get up to date on the thing.

Who are the Orange order in Scotland. They are generally poor lesser educated members of the underclass.

They have been used by Unionist parties who would not be seen anywhere near the poor lodge members normally.

Similarly most “respectable folk” would never admit any sympathy or connection with the the OO. Its the fart in the lift syndrome it’s uncomfortable its embarrassing it smells but its usually over after a short time and polite folk dont want to talk about it.

The members of the various lodges are used by the rich over masters to create division within the community.

The poor souls don’t understand that they and their families are the very folk who would benefit under a SNP Government
and of course independence.

Generally they and their families are trapped in poverty they have no value they see no future , so the hate and aggression creeps in no real logic involved in many ways they are similar to jihadists who also have no value no future and the hate and aggression creeps in.

They are poor hateful individuals who are more to be pittied than despised.

We should despise the unionist politicians who misuse these poor people rather than hate a poverty stricken group of uneducated pathetic folk who are more to be pitied.

Before anyone suggests I am in anyway pro Orange ludge…what with a name like Smoothpiece seriously…

Josef Ó Luain

A lot of ET readers will buy the story, of course, but a lot of them will see it for what it is. A telly-worker fae the West-end complaining about Council nursery fees. C’mon FFS.

Cactus

Do you ever get the feeling when u leave the Gents and u have no geography of the bar… aye do like.

Now is the TIME to march.

It’s Saturday.

Hey Chris!

Cactus

Where do we go…?

Where do we go now… Axl knows?

So is it left or left.

C’est Dumfries.

Go iAye.

Cactus

LOVE SCOTLAND EVERYBUDDY.

Headin’ HOME tae a wifi.

Mon the Caps.

Wooooo.

Chick McGregor

I notice there were no child rates on the cruise pricing manifest or indeed any child provision pricing.

Cactus

Tis 11 hours remaining to go.

Mon the hour.

Do Dumfries.

American Da on ITV+60 minutes.

Amh HOME like…

Are U?

Cactus

Glasgow’s Evening Times is probably the first ever paper ah’ve ever posted on way back when you could… how IT has changed!

My original handle was ACOG.

A Citizen Of Glasgow.

Onesies. 🙂

smithie

Cactus in no way do i doubt your full support for Scottish independence but although i don’t contribute much BTL in my opinion your haverings are off putting, can you not put them “off topic”?
I’m sorry if i come across as a killjoy but just saying what i think.

Cactus

Nae problem smithie, until tomorrow today…

The passion comes in many forms…

What can ah do fur ye, friend?

Are U going 2marra friend?

Try me.

smithie

lol sorry but i cant be there Cactus but i will be watching online….hope it’s a good one

smithie

its cool Cactus…we will march and we will get there

Cactus

Nice one and thanks to ya smithie 🙂

Today is going to be a good day.

We are fighting 4 our lives.

One HAS to haver.

We good.

Cactus

Wnen aye ain’t talking like…

Ahm fillin’ in the gaps.

It’s important.

You know fine Wingers.

LOVE YE ALL x.

smithie

Cactus we good…..roll on Dunfries

smithie

Hahaha ye nutter lol.

sure lets meet up for a pint dude

Cactus

Dunbarton, Dunfries aye aye hehe.

Cheers smithie. 🙂 😉 🙂

Wait achwhile!

Stuey!

Cactus

With regards to fine Dumfries…

There can be only one.

SO be one of many.

High noon.

mike cassidy

Just in case people think there is something unusual about a largescale – as opposed to a localscale Orange Order walk in Cowdenbeath.

link to youtube.com

Comments not recommended for the sensitive winger.

mike cassidy

And for those who think this is a Scottish problem

link to youtube.com

Southport!

WTF

And its not on its English own!

mike cassidy

FFS

Benidorm

Fecking Benidorm.

link to youtube.com

Jack collatin

The Evil Fourth Estate Fifth column has no shame.
Let it be known: any business which advertises in the Herald Group/ Mirror Group will be boycotted by me and mine.
This daft/ easily manipulated/ or shameless TV Media Mafia mother who maltreats her children by exposing them on the front page of a Glasgow rag to SNP BAD Propaganda and lies, joins the Wealthy Middle Class John Lewis check-shirted Brit Nat Gammons on QT the other night in fighting the Good Middle Class Brit Nat fight to retain their privileged and colonial WOG status.

Keep up the good work, Stu.
The Revolution is now.

Rick H Johnston

Millionaires Eh? How do they manage.
More importantly are the tabloid press just too lazy to find a working class family and just get their pals to pose as an example of SNP Bad policy as they see it. Well exposed Rev.

Jack collatin

I see that Johann Lamont, the Champion of the Few, not the Many, who are branded subsidy junkies by this failed Branch Manager Janitor, who spends hed £1200 a week Twilight Years staring blankly into the Middle Distance at FMQ every week, is fighting the good fight for a ‘Mum’, your typical Mother Courage according to the Foreign Owned Evening Times, a doe faced Upper Middle Class Madonna and Child, whose husband is reportedly worth £16 million.
There’s hard done by, and hard done by.

That BAD SNP Government should be bunging PFI Glasgow, home for five decades of the ‘Arms Length’, contracted-out Money Bleeders like City Building and City Parking, those neo Conservative Jobs For The Boys Tony Blair wheezes of the Purcell and Mathieson corrupt fetid Tammany Hall era,to sort out the mess.
Half a century of stealing my rates money is ultimately all the SNP’s fault.
And the Herald Group play along willingly with this Labour Con.
This on top of Nuclear Man Brian Wilson’s insults in the Scotsman.
Our MSM are poison.
We are at war.

Robert Louis

Mike Cassidy at 0302am,

Well with any luck they will stay in benidorm- and maybe they’ll take homophobic human rights abuser Arlene Foster with them. In my experience, these people are (and I am putting this nicely) thick as mince. The think they are the great ‘defenders of the protestant faith’ when most have never been inside a kirk in their puff.

Worse than that, however, is that what was originally an organisation that was a defender of the protestant faith and swore loyalty to the English monarchy, has now become a De Facto British Nationalist organisation. Indeed, I would suggest that many of the knuckle draggers who participate in these ridiculous marches, very likely know nothing of the supposed original principles of the Orange order, or the King James bible. Bowing before a portrait of Queen Lizzie, doesn’t make you religious.

Their is nothing in the original principles of the orange movement that opposes Scottish independence, yet it has been hijacked for that purpose. .They defend the English monarchy and (supposedly) the protestant faith, but that has nothing whatsoever to do with Scottish independence.

No, the orange order does not stand for its original principles. It has become obsessed with British Nationalism. oh… and banging big drums.

Nana

Big? We are Talking Telephone Numbers!
link to archive.is

link to change.org

link to thecanary.co

Brexit: the onset of madness
link to eureferendum.com

Nana

link to politics.co.uk

Legatum Institute ‘crossed a clear line’ by promoting political views in a report
link to archive.is

link to evolvepolitics.com

link to piie.com

Smallaxe

Good morning, Nana.

Thank you, for your links, we’re getting ready to head for Dumfries. Kettle’s on!
🙂

Nana

Have a good day Smallaxe, don’t forget sunscreen!

Smallaxe

Nana,

I got a loan of Tinto’s parasol.
😉

Fred

The “Ludge’s” future is all behind it, they would just love a wee persecution story to attract some sympathy for the cause, just ignore them! Are there still wee drapers shops oot in Lanarkshire, West Lothian & Ayrshire, which stock six-finger white gloves for the Walk?

Dorothy Devine

Smallaxe, from the awesome warnings about thunder , lightning and flash floods a large saltire umbrella might be more appropriate !

Have a wonderful , happy and safe day!

Sorry I can’t be there as I am looking after my grandsons , one of whom is wounded due to the fact he is a hitering , hallyracket kind of boy incapable of being careful.

McBoxheid

an Brotherhood says:
1 June, 2018 at 10:50 pm

Just in case any non-Twitterers here may be interested in adding their votes, I’ve put a poll up asking:

‘How should the Yes movement respond to the OO/Arlene Foster march?’

Currently, 157 votes have been cast as follows:

Counter-march/demo 11%
Ignore it entirely 62%
Consumer strike 4%
Demand it be banned 24%

link to twitter.com

Can any Wingers who may be ‘in the know’ about such stuff clue us up about this Cowdenbeath gig and its importance?
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Just a suggestion.

Anyone attending a counter demo might wish to turn their backs as the OO procession march past to show their disgust.

Highland Wifie

Have a great day in Dumfries everyone. So sorry I can’t be there.

Amongst events reported today by radio shortbread ‘a march through Dumfries’ – that’ll be an OO march then will it?! Leave the country in ignorance again why don’t you. Miserable excuse for a national broadcaster.

Footsoldier

@mcBoxheid 09:29

Not enough options. There should be one to give it maximum publicity linking Arlene Foster to Theresa May and the Tories.

Margaret Palmer

Should be noted that Johann Lamont’s husband, Archie Graham, is a long standing GCC Labour councillor

Calum McKay

Disappointing from two perspectives, the depths Scottish press will go to attack the SNP and someone seemingly pretending that their circumstances are impacted, when clearly they are not.

Has Mrs Jackson been used and misrepresented or are these her own words and beliefs? Would Mrs Jackson like to see a return to labour when there was poor nursery coverage and women were second class citizens? In sum, has Mrs Jackson been taken for a ride by the paper?

I wonder what the discussion round the breakfast table was this morning?

As for Johan Lamont, she is the saddest figure in Scottish Politcs. When ever she rises in Holyrood to ask a question, you can hear a collective sigh from her own benches. The question she asks is not researched, she can barely string together a sentence that makes sense, it carries a prsonalised embittered message and she is flicked aside by the FM like a fly.

Best thing for Johnan’s career, would be for her to end it!

Andy-B

Yeah the Glasgow Evening Times is definitely anti-SNP and anti-independence avoid it at all costs.

Oh and they allow the SNPBAD Green Ink Gang plenty of comments in their parocial wee news rag. The papers basically another murder fitba pictures of yesteryear empire rag.

Jack collatin

The ET wouldn’t even make decent toilet paper, Andy-B.
Good for smearing, but not absorbing.

Greannach

Johann Lamont gets a mention. Wow! Can anyone remember which month in which year she led the Branches? Political giant that she is.

Robert Peffers

@Gfaetheblock says: 1 June, 2018 at 7:16 pm:

So means testing is good today?”

What has that got to do with this idiocy, Gfaetheblock?

This person may or may not suffer ME/CGS but obviously not enough to prevent earning well above the average wage of Scotland. Not to mention his partner is employed.

However, like every other person in the performing arts who has made successful recordings and appearances on the World’s stages, TV studios and video production studios the past successes pay royalties long after the performer has died.

“Stuart Murdoch has a also suffered from chronic illness for decades (CFS), so I suspect that childcare may be a challenge for the family.”

I suspect his family suffers a hell of a lot less financially than the really poor and ill being sanctioned by this Westminster Establishment. Probably also a lot less than the Labour council female employee who were robbed blind by Glasgow Labour for decades.

We can always rely upon you to stand up for the Unionists and their union.

t42

Survivor Guilt syndrome, Sudden wealth syndrome.
Think of the approval and plaudits from “friends” at those neoliberal dinner parties.
A discreet donation of time or money would have better quenched their guilt.
Silly puppets.

Dan Huil

Excellent work from the Rev.

Boycott the britnat media; let the Rev deal with these lying scum.

CameronB Brodie

That Johann Lammont really is a dishonest, reactionary, racist piece of work. Thick as shit with it, so apparently no saving graces. I’m astonished at her brass neck, frankly, well not really.

Douglas Guy

You cannot hope
.. to bribe or twist,
thank God! the
.. British journalist.
But, seeing what
.. the man will do
unbribed, there’s
.. no occasion to.

Humbert Wolfe, 1930

Myrna mynkoff

Some cosy photos of said ‘ordinary mother’ with Scottish tories and scottish Labour, all conveniently working together on this
link to twitter.com

Reluctant Nationalist

£2.54 to £4.00 an hour? You would think they could find someone a little more…down-to-earth for the article. But I suppose the reaction to a picture of a real poor person may veer away from the chin-stroking concern encouraged by Mrs Murdoch, and into ‘well you should’ve thought about these things before you had kids’ snobbery.

Still, it is a huge increase. SNP baaaad.

Gary

I’m seeing a bit of a pattern emerging here.

EVERY SINGLE TIME a ‘newspaper’ reports something like this it turns out that the person being quoted (cue eponymous put-upon hardworking mother of two) is either a politician, related to a politician or she is (relatively speaking) rich.

The article will be a reverse of the truth (I don’t mean a lie) For example, on misreporting Scotland we saw a ‘reporter’ standing next to a motorway talking to a suit in a hardhat and complaining about months of delays, diversions and ‘traffic chaos’ at ‘one of the busiest times of year’ when what he was ACTUALLY telling us about was a HUGE investment in the road network by the SNP Government to build a new section of motorway to REDUCE congestion long-term.

It’s amazing that when you dig beneath the headline the ‘story’ seems to evaporate and those who they ‘blame’ are actually the ones doing all the hard work to improve things for us.

Once again proving what we already knew, our press are beyond biased, they simply propagandise for the unionists and have no interest in truthful, honest and unbiased reporting of the facts…

Warren

I am a Scottish independence supporter and have voted for SNP for a number of years.
The stuff that is being written above about Marisa is nonsense. Her comments are not related to an anti SNP viewpoint and it’s a bad day when a someone can’t complain about something that is having an impact on them without a lot of personal / unvalidated nonsense getting written about them. Who her husband is, the job she does or how much she earns is no ones business but theres. Treating people like this is counter productive to getting a majority in next indieref vote. Although not my favourite band having met a few of them I’ve found that they are decent folk who have also done benefits for Syrian refugees and other good causes not likely to be regarded positively by the right wing press. As far as I recall many of them were pro independence during the referendum so slagging them off is stupid. We need to win more people over to getting independence for Scotland and if we were to attack everyone who lives in Glasgow just cause they speak out against something crap the Council has done then we’ll have to attack the majority of people who live here.


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