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Two more milestones

Posted on August 16, 2013 by

We try not to bang on about our readership stats so often these days, but as some mainstream media types have been casting doubt on our figures this week and we’ve just passed a couple of nice round numbers, we thought you might like to know.

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We’d like to say a big “Welcome!” to the 15,000 brand-new readers who’ve joined us in the last 30 days, a big “Thanks!” to those of you who were here already, and an extra-special one to those of you who told others. Keep spreading the word, folks.

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    1. Dorothy Devine says:

      If I relied on the MSM for information I think I might slit my wrists – so its a BIG thank you from me!
      The laughable Cochrane is at it again – I do wonder how the pillock sleeps at night.

    2. Quinie frae Angus says:

      This is brilliant news….if we all continue to direct a few more of our friends to this site (and NNS) we will hopefully reach the critical mass required….
       
      As has been said by others, once people start to find out the truth and become more informed…..they are turning to “Yes”.

    3. Bugger (the Panda) says:

      Dorothy Devine
       
      The answer is that he doesn’t sleep at night.
      He retreats to his lair.
      BtP, who bloody can’t make it to the swally in The Horseshoe Bar in Glasgow at 7pm tonight.
      Have fun.

    4. Davy says:

      Aye Rev quality shows, keep up the good work.

    5. Gizzit says:

      Congratulations Rev. and well done.
       
      I live in hope that increasing numbers of undecided and NO voters will find their way here, and discover that there are alternate, logical, reasoned viewpoints to the skewed MSM propaganda.
       
      The truth will prevail.

    6. gordoz says:

      Form one of the new readers – Dont know if I can trust the info from this web based forum
      I only trust info from the BBC, The Courier (Dundee), The Herald, The Scotsman, The Sun, The Express, The Daily Mail, The Daily Mirror (Record), the Telegraph, blah blah blah blah.   
      AYE RIGHT.
      Well done to all who contribute to this powerful form for free speach on Scotlands future
      National radio station forum ( free; to discuss the facts )??
      Brilliant stuff Rev Stu.

    7. Alabaman says:

      I do not find it so surprising that the word has spread, that if one wants the real truth,
      that this is the main site to find it. More power to you Rev.

    8. Quinie frae Angus says:

      As for Alan Cochrane, the increasingly shrill and unhinged tone of his piece just shows how out-of-touch and rattled the Unionists are becoming, as they realise they have lost the intellectual war this early in the campaign.
       
      Indeed, the more he and his ilk demonise Alex Salmond in this way, the more Alex’s army of fans (of which I am one) will be likely to declare themselves and come out and defend him!

    9. Famous15 says:

      A lesson from grandad on sucking eggs To the pub goers this evening.
      Meeting people who are not all known to each other please watch out for the friendly guy who wants you  to go that wee bit more extreme.
      Just saying.

    10. Macart says:

      Well done Rev.
       
      Good news travels fast. 🙂

    11. MajorBloodnok says:

      @Famous15
       
      Aye, if anyone suggests finishing off the evening with a wee Aftershock – DON’T DO IT!

    12. Bugger (the Panda) says:

      You mean go out a do some diy fracking under John Smith House, where JL is reputedly programmed and regenerated?

    13. HandandShrimp says:

      I thought the pub swally was next Friday
       
      *must pay more attention*

    14. HandandShrimp says:

      70,000 unique visitors – that is starting to encroach on MSM territory, you will start to have advertisers interested if this sort of growth continues.

    15. The Man in the Jar says:

      Very good news indeed. I cant help wondering though with the amount of stick Wings has been giving the unionists lately some of them are bound to have been checking “us” out. Never mind I understand that sales figures for “regional” newspapers are not that far away.

    16. HighlandMartin says:

      Indeed. Can I have a concession for a hot dog stall just about the Twitter feed button please.

    17. sionnach says:

      Congratulations, Rev! And thanks to all those who contribute informative stuff the MSM just hide.
      Looks like Wings will be really well-placed when the white paper comes out and the YES side start ramping up their positives!
      Keep on keeping on!

    18. Murray McCallum says:

      It’s almost as if the Rev Stu is deliberately trying to increase audience visits by producing stimulating material.

    19. Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      “Never mind I understand that sales figures for “regional” newspapers are not that far away.”

      70,000 is more than the SALES of the Herald and Scotsman put together, in fact. But comparing sales with online readers is a rather apples-and-oranges exercise.

    20. HandandShrimp says:

      Murray
       
      What is worse, he is doing it deliberately (as Lord Foulkes might say 😉

    21. Patrick Roden says:

      70,000 unique views a month ? that’s phenomenal !
       
      So while the MSM release figures that are in eternal decline, Wings shows a month by month increase.
       
      Anyone wondering why they are trying to both ignore and smear us at the same time, has their answer right here.

    22. Silverytay says:

      Well done Rev and keep up the good work.

      It would appear that due to recent events over the last couple of weeks that the biased media are doing a lot of the work for us.

      The article in the courier was a nice bit of free advertising and the lies were quickly rebutted by people from W.O.S , the end result was that people from Dundee , Perth , Fife and Angus who did not know about wings have found the site.

      The same can be said for the media implementing a blanket ban on the wings poll , due to people from wings mentioning it on twitter , facebook and in the m.s.m , people are looking for information on it and the only place to see it is wings.

    23. Jimbo says:

      “A lesson from grandad on sucking eggs To the pub goers this evening.Meeting people who are not all known to each other please watch out for the friendly guy who wants you  to go that wee bit more extreme.”
       
      …and the serious, passionate extremist who tries to get you to agree with his views – been there before.
      Just saying.

    24. Morag says:

      70,000 is more than the SALES of the Herald and Scotsman put together, in fact. But comparing sales with online readers is a rather apples-and-oranges exercise.
       
      Impossible, I guess.  One newspaper may be read by more than one person.  On the other hand a web site may be accessed by the same person using more than one device, and so that person may be counted as more than one reader.  (I’ve never quite figured that out – if I’m logged in with the same user name on two devices, does it count me as one or two people?)
       
      On yet another hand, there are newspapers that are never read, either because they’re corporate freebies of some sort (hotels, airports and so on) or because the purchaser didn’t get round to it before they needed something to wrap the vegetable peelings in.  Clicking on five pages of a blog usually suggests you’re actually reading some of it.

    25. Molly says:

      Watched Scotland tonight last night , two men talking about full fiscal leavers. One man trying to put a case for why he would be voting Yes, the other mans in depth analysis was -it’s all mince. 

      While the figures are fantastic for Wings ,it does show there is a real hunger for people to get information . Despite , access to the Internet , we are still receiving an awful lot of our info second or third hand , thus allowing anyone to come on the telly and basically stifle any debate by calling it mince.

      However much we ridicule Cochers , Hootsman etc , they are still able to print their nonsense because the general public have limited time and access to not only information but where that info is sourced.

      Now whether its Trident or whether its bedroom tax , the one group of people who after taking decisions on these matters is our local councils so in the name of transparency and accountability why do all councils not stream their meetings ? May be dull as dishwater but a) it would let the public be involved in local democracy b) archive info c) take away the he said / she said stuff and really let us see who is talking mince.
      As Wings proves daily , knowledge is power so lets start getting the information we are entitled to

    26. Robert Craig says:

      Not sure if my last reached you or not but if not, watching and reading the Wings site with pride here in Canada; well organised, articulate and reasoned (real) free speech.  

      Been a wander since 1972 apart from a short return visit 92/93 when I helped out in Nicola Sturgeon’s campaign against David Marshall in Shettleston.

      I’ll be home at Christmas to soak up some pre referendum atmosphere.  Unfortunately I’ll not be able to vote (out the country for over 15 years now) but wish all old and new Scots “Yes”  supporters all success for 2014.  

      I’ll be spreading the site link to like minded folk, neutrals and nay sayers alike 

    27. Training Day says:

      “Watched Scotland tonight last night , two men talking about full fiscal levers. One man trying to put a case for why he would be voting Yes, the other mans in depth analysis was -it’s all mince.”
       
      Peter Hughes could be relied upon to follow the No Scotland script, which now consists of ‘uncertainty..Alex Salmond..biggest market closed off… Alex Salmond..the ‘nationalists’ tell us nothing.. Alex Salmond… it’s all mince..and Alex Salmond’.  At one point when Laurie Clark quoted Gavin McCrone, Hughes accused him of quoting Alex Salmond.  That is how desperate they are to embody the independence issue in one man. 
       
      Oh, and as ever, Rona Dougall the presenter was hopelessly ill-equipped and out of her depth.  Just as John McKay is when he presents.  A shambolic and superficial programme.

    28. Robert Louis says:

      Famous15 and jimbo,
       
      Totally sound advice.  Make no mistake, the Britnat establishment has form on using undercover special branch, to infiltrate peaceful protest or campaign groups, and encourage illegal behaviour, as a means of undermining said group.  Even nice peaceful people without a bad idea in their head, are encouraged after a few drinks to ‘get angry’ and talk about doing things which would be illegal. Just talk would be enough.   It’s a dirty corrupt tactic, but par for the course for the London BritNAT establishment.
       
      http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/jun/21/mclibel-leaflet-police-bob-lambert-mcdonalds?INTCMP=SRCH

    29. balgayboy says:

      George Carlin got it spot on, he’s referring to his own country but I reckon it is very much similar to the UK at present.

    30. Hetty says:

      that wee bit more extreme.”

      Extreme? Taking an interest in and sharing information about Scotland’s referendum is essential to a this being a democratic process and WOS is one arena which takes an empirical stance. 

      I pass the ‘news’ paper stand everyday and see the absolute lies and myths being touted as facts to the general public, much of which is ‘extreme’ in their attack on many sections of society who have no voice or power to fight back. That’s extreme.
       

    31. gordoz says:

      Good point Molly – the YES movement need to start another front ‘National online radio’ or adopt guerilla tactics of real impact.

      “Despite , access to the Internet , we are still receiving an awful lot of our info second or third hand , thus allowing anyone to come on the telly and basically stifle any debate by calling it mince.

      However much we ridicule Cochers , Hootsman etc , they are still able to print their nonsense because the general public have limited time and access to not only information but where that info is sourced.”

      We dont seem to have any editorial journos on our side …. is this not the case ?

      Its all very well being right, but its so easily countered by a smug prime time rebuff – “its on the news so it must be true”. Our counter arguements are usually missed or sniggered at by the likes of Brewer etc.

      Somebody said it here before and it was spot on … why did we not see how important it was to get the ‘reserved matter’ of control of broadcasting reversed.

      Because Scots trusted the nice people at the BBC to counter the Scottish (BritNat Loyalist Media) bias ….. which never happend.
      Does anybody have an answer to this because we need on soon. Does anyone have the ear of Scottish Journos ?

      In the name of Iain Banks where are the great writers of Scotlaand to counter this dangerous situation with the media and the likes of Newsnight Scotland propaganda. We need to call them out now. If there is no backbone for a fightback from within the presscore and commentators then a new breed must be sought or new fronts opened up surely.

    32. gordoz says:

      Famous 15, Jimbo, Robert Louis
      Another good point – absolutely spot on.

    33. Morag says:

      Somebody said it here before and it was spot on … why did we not see how important it was to get the ‘reserved matter’ of control of broadcasting reversed.
       
      We did see it.  But so did they.  It wasn’t reserved by accident, you know.  Some fights they are not going to allow us to win, and that’s one they always had control of.

    34. Brian Powell says:

      Strange comment from the tweeter Alan Rodin in the ‘casting doubts’ link ,”Think Panelbase are going to have some questions to answer.” Sunday Times Panelbase Polls OK, very inconvenient result from Wings Panelbase to be questioned!

      I think it comes back to proUnionist followers inability to grasp they don’t control the agenda anymore.
      It is a massive concern though that the media, in the desperate attempts to portray only the Unionist side as relevant, they have abandoned all normal criteria of accountability.

      e.g. the NATO non-story. There is a clear precedent for a country having nuclear submarines removed from their territory and being admitted to NATO. Spain did this.

      Yet the papers still reported, uncritically, the comments of Rennie and Davidson and Labour representatives.

      In another poll showing the distribution of Yes voters, it was claimed that these were concentrated in poorer areas. If this is true there is the obvious conclusion that while Labour is supposed to be the Party who looks out for the poor, he ‘poor’ clearly don’t think they do, a point not picked up by media commentators.

      So the media doesn’t mind supporting a Party that the people don’t have any trust in to represent them.

    35. The Rough Bounds says:

      British broadcasting? I watched a few minutes of that programme on tv last night about Scotland being the ”second fattest country in the world”.
      I don’t for a minute believe it.
       
      The programme was supposed to be about the Scots. I watched as they went to Parkhead in Glasgow and interviewed some people wearing green and grey football shirts. They were all plastic paddies of course; much more interested in the ‘ould country’ that their ancestors couldn’t wait to get out of 150 years or so ago.
      I wouldn’t call these people Scots.

      The next bit was where the presenter informed us that one part of Scotland where they had the fattest people was the Highlands. They took us up to Thurso where they interviewed a big fat wummin that could have been a mannequin for Goliath’s uniform. Was she highland? Judging by her accent she was English. Very English.

      At this point I lost interest and turned the damned tv off.

    36. HandandShrimp says:

      I suppose to be fair to Westminster they increasingly wonder if they control broadcasting too. The BBC are a law unto themselves it just so happens that on the matter of Scottish independence the BBC and Westminster have a self interest that coincides.

    37. ianbrotherhood says:

      via Twitter:  Rev is currently in BBC Bath studio.
       
      Lion’s den time?

    38. Frances says:

      Morag
      Impossible, I guess.  One newspaper may be read by more than one person.  On the other hand a web site may be accessed by the same person using more than one device, and so that person may be counted as more than one reader.  (I’ve never quite figured that out – if I’m logged in with the same user name on two devices, does it count me as one or two people?)
      The opposite also applies.  In this house two of us access from different computers (and an ipad).  However, when the Major had taken part in one of Stuart’s surveys I couldn’t access the survey from any of our computers – only one survey could be done from our ‘address’.  That seems to indicate that whilst some might have access from two computers one home, one work those who access from the same ‘address’ even if there’s two, three or four readers, might only be counted as one.  If that’s the case then the readership here could be much larger than we think. 

    39. Morag says:

      Who knows.  I access the site from my home computer (home wifi), my office computer (11 miles away, business network, completely unconnnected), and occasionally from my smartphone which is accessing the internet through my mobile O2 connection.  So am I three people?

      But I have the same login set on all three systems.  Does that make me one person?  I have absolutely no idea.  It may all be swings and roundabouts.

      I have to say, when RevStu bans someone, they stay banned.  So he’s doing something right.

    40. Desimond says:

      The Rough Bounds,,,,re the Scots…Plastic Paddies and English Woman…well they can look forward to voting with the rest of people living in Scotland. The report was about the all encompassing Scotland and its people within, not just the Scots. Your post had a touch of the xenophobe there IMHO

    41. Susan says:

      Wings saves my sanity! Thank you all!

    42. DougieDouglas says:

      As someone who runs an online business all I can say is:
      70K uniques – awesome

    43. Thistle says:

      Was talking at a RIC meeting in Shawlands, Glasgow yesterday and spreading the word about Wings. A few new about WoS and the rest do now. Spread the word folks.
      Also agree with Desimond about the plastic paddy reference etc we don’t need it.
       

    44. Arbroath 1320 says:

      Congratulations Stu on reaching yet another fantastic milestone.
       
      Think we’d all better be careful here, Wings is already Scotland’s largest political party if things keep going as they are Wings will also be Scotland’s largest newspaper as well. 😆

    45. Restlessnative says:

      “The programme was supposed to be about the Scots. I watched as they went to Parkhead in Glasgow and interviewed some people wearing green and grey football shirts. They were all plastic paddies of course; much more interested in the ‘ould country’ that their ancestors couldn’t wait to get out of 150 years or so ago.I wouldn’t call these people Scots”
       
      Maybe they’re like that because they,and their ancestors when they came here, were treated like shite? And as for why they couldn’t wait to get out the “ould country”,ask yourself what the reasons for that may have been(British Imperialism ring a bell?) or if indeed they had the choice to leave or stay. I’m sure many of the crofters of Knoydart and Sutherland “couldn’t wait to get out”,not because they wanted to leave their homeland,but because it had become to intolerable to stay.

      I want to live in a welcoming country,a country finally rid of bigotry,a country tolerant of all,whatever colour,creed or religion.We have a chance next year to change this country for the better.Lets do it.

      Ps give this a read
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scoti

    46. Rod Mac says:

      “The programme was supposed to be about the Scots. I watched as they went to Parkhead in Glasgow and interviewed some people wearing green and grey football shirts. They were all plastic paddies of course; much more interested in the ‘ould country’ that their ancestors couldn’t wait to get out of 150 years or so ago.I wouldn’t call these people Scots”
       
       
      Call me a cynic if you like ,however I wouild respectfully suggest you are no more an Independence supporter than Willie Rennie and are here to try and sully the good name of WOS and the independence cause.
      In our Scotland all are welcome that choose to put down roots here ,as long as they are law abiding ,democratic and honest.

    47. mealer says:

      Well done.Keep it up.Still a long,long way to go.Millions have never heard of WoS !

    48. david says:

      ive got t least 3 people loggin on to this site. they will pass it on etc etc, banners at events are a good idea

    49. Barontorc says:

      BBC Jockland reported from overseas this morning around 7.30 on the ‘worries’ of the Ulster Loyalist / Orange vote that Scotland will break up the UK, which they all vox-popped to assure us will never happen! I take it they will all feel disenfranchised not having a vote in the referendum.
       
      The BBC Jockers really are scraping the barrel for anti-comments. Shock-a-rooney, jings and help ma boab!

    50. Brian milligan says:

      Well done wings. as someone said thanks for helping people who may have lost there sanity way, in this debate. we can come out unafraid not alone, and more joining every hour of the day.
       

    51. DonnyWho says:

      hi well done you have reached about 2.5% of the voting population! If you get to !0% we must win, momentum is everything, keep up the great work.

    52. G H Graham says:

      The important statistic is 70,000 unique views which effectively means 70,000 different people reading this site, double the readership of The Herald and indeed The Scotchman/North British/Hootsmon/Comic/Litter Liner.
      Over 5 page views per reader is a huge bonus because readers rarely click through the second or third page before losing the will to live or are distracted by pop up ads or by CNN flash reports that Jennifer Anniston has announced that she is considering getting her hair cut for Christmas.
      If I didn’t know better, I’d say this well structured, clear, pointed, fair reporting & analysis by WOS, crowd funded by members of the public unwilling to accept being spoon fed British propaganda, was being done deliberately to attract attention as well as new readers.
      Have you no shame at all?

    53. scotty says:

      re not “real” scots….last month my Gran moved in just down the road from me,during this time we have spent a lot of time talking about her past and her side of the family,thanks to this i found out that i am a german jewish romany irish catholic protestant Scotsman…..am i even a “real” Scot?

    54. The Rough Bounds says:

      @Scotty.
       
      Perhaps the definition of a real Scot is one who doesn’t use lower case letter i, but uses the upper case letter I.

    55. Bugger (the Panda) says:

      SCOTTY
      YES,
       
      if you want to be.
       
      Pandas are Scottish and always were, you know?
       
      BtP

    56. Ian Mackay says:

      Absolutely stunning figures. Well done!!!

      The 21.5% new visitor stat is bound to worry the MSM. 15000 new visitors in the last month is extraordinary.

      You must be doing something right!! 😀

    57. george-f-smith says:

      absolutely fantastic. you now need a strategy to reach the voters who are disillusioned with the current style of debate and the young voters   

    58. Patrician says:

      I haven’t posted a comment on this site for a while as I saw no need to just repeat what other people have already said, usually much more eloquently than I could manage.

      However, I could not let the earlier comments from “The Rough Bounds” go uncommented on as they are probably some of the nastiest sentiments I have seen on this site. I am not going to quote them again but what I would say is, is it any wonder that the M. Kellys and J. Reids have no love for Scotland with attitudes like this on display. Ask yourself these questions:

      Why do M Kelly and others have no affinity for Scotland but would rather stay with the UK?

      Why after 4 or 5 generations born and raised in Scotland do they not see themselves as Scottish?

      Before posting please remember that this site is meant to persuade the undecided. How easily could the earlier comments posted be spun to show the independence movement as nothing more than a front for sectarian bigotry?

      The campaign for Scottish independence is about civic nationalism and that means examining and challenging existing unacceptable attitudes to other groups in Scotland. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and say the comments were posted in haste or anger at the program you were watching but please have a think before you post again.

    59. Josephine says:

      With all due respect Patrician 
      You stated that you hadn’t posted for a while, I assume that the remarks that you are posting about are something you aren’t used to seeing on here? I didn’t agree with them either. Is it any wonder that someone would leave Scotland because of them? I’d wonder at that greatly, these were the views of one person, they are not the views of the whole of Scotland. So rarely have read anything like it, you felt compelled to comment. It saddens me to read such things, though Im not under the impression that  has the monopoly on ignorant attitudes. Scotland didnt write that comment



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