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The So Solid Crew

Posted on September 30, 2018 by

Three days ago, the Daily Record’s political editor and Kezia Dugdale’s chief media cheerleader Davie Clegg tweeted that Scottish Labour had “expressed full support and solidarity” for their former branch manager in her court battle with this website.

It seems fair to say that the tweet hasn’t aged well.

Perhaps “solidarity” – like “fairness”, “equality” and “justice” – is one of those words that just means something different if you’re in Scottish Labour.

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  1. Alan Mackintosh says:

    Now thats what you call a civil War…

  2. Mike says:

    This is a divide that could have been avoided when Corbyn first took over the leadership. I said back then that his first act as leader should have been a night of the long knives where he cleared out the New Labour rubbish and replaced them with those who believe in social democracy but he didn’t. Maybe its because there wasn’t enough of them to replace the New Labour rubbish.
    Mind you Leonard isn’t a social democrat neither is Finlay so im not really sure where the divide lines are.
    And even if Labour in Scotland did adopt social democracy as their founding principles how would that enable them to oppose the Socially Democratic Scottish Government? They would have to vote with them on nearly every issue. Lolz. Not seeing that as a future event in the Scottish Parliamnt any time soon.

  3. Auld Rock says:

    Talk about a ‘Nuclear Meltdown’ the core is about to burn its way through the floor and then the ba will really be burst. Scottish Labour is completely out of touch with its once core voting support.

  4. Giving Goose says:

    Great piece Rev.

    Imagine all the energy that has been expended by Kezia and Labour could be harnassed then applied to good causes.

    Like tackling poverty, or foodbanks, or..
    .I could go on but Labour don’t care!

  5. Bob Mack says:

    Ferrets, sack, harmony, infighting. Make your own sentence up.

  6. Richard Smith says:

    God,they’re like the Tories.


  7. Confused says:

    “Kezia Dugdale” aka AGENT KAREN is a deepcover plant developed some time ago by the SNPs Black OPs Psychological Warfare Unit.

    Her brief was to infiltrate and destroy Scottish Labour from the inside.

    Job done, we are now bringing her in.

    The “REV CAMPBELL” was in on this all the way – within our organisation he is known as “Number 2”

    We have one current agent in the field who is now close to her goal – becoming leader of the conservative party itself.


    It’s not just “perfidiious albion” that can play these games.

  8. galamcennalath says:

    A new slogan?

    Labour, a party worth resigning from.

  9. ClanDonald says:

    Labour in Holyrood have a “shadow cabinet”?

    Can you be a shadow cabinet if you’re the third biggest party?

  10. heraldnomore says:

    So La Lally becomes an ordinary mum at last…

  11. Dr Jim says:

    Kezia can’t change what is and nobody will respect her and she never had any power so now she’s going to bring down the whole house of cards in one great tossing of the dummy so even as she fails at everything else she’s gonna make somebody, anybody pay for her horrible life as she sees it

    So it’s all win win for us nasty divisive people then eh, coz we’ll get the blame in the long run

  12. Dr Jim says:

    @Confused 1.18pm

    Kezia *Red Sparrow* Dugdale, brilliant it’s a movie

  13. Abulhaq says:

    This sort of stuff strengthens the desire to see all the UK unionist political junk thrown in the incinerator. The UK is a sinking ship, its fundament gazing ‘politics’ is a reflection of that.
    The Republic of Macedonia is voting today on a name change to facilitate its membership of the EU and other international organizations. Population less than Strathclyde region.
    Scotland’s electorate really needs a good kick up the arse!

  14. Hamish100 says:

    When I think of all those Union dues being used to feather these idiots.

    Can I suggest no right thinking Scot should go near the Daily Record/ Sunday Mail. No more excuse ahhh but they have a good footba page.

  15. ScottishPsyche says:

    Kez and her pals against the world.

    I wish this drama queen would just flounce off the political stage for good or go join the LibDems with her pal Cole-Hamilton. Doesn’t she realise she is being used in the Blairites fight against Corbyn? I almost feel sorry for her and then I remember her lying duplicitous face denying her conversations with the FM and then urging people to vote Tory to stop the SNP.

    The SLabbers should dip into their own deep pockets if they want to help her – Anas Sarwar is a good Socialist millionaire.

    Corbyn and co must be regretting giving her the time of day. She is a disaster for the Labour Party.

  16. Orri says:

    Labour spent a fortune fighting a case in equal pay in Glasgow. The SNP council then had the unsavoury task of pro forma fighting a case in order to lose it so that should they somehow lose control of the council there’d be a legal obligation to pay up. Not only that but it would pay to rest any accusations of being cavalier with other people’s money.

    So it seems Labour have finally seen the light in Dugdale’s case. All we’re waiting is a letter sent to Dugdale’s lawyers from someone within Labour with the authority to make an unlimited financial commitment come Monday when their office opens.

    To me despite Dugdale’s offence being in a private capacity Labour should have looked into it with an honest mind as to whether she could win of not. They should have honestly advised her to apologise even if said apology consisted of clarifying that in her opinion she thought the joke sounded homophobic.

    More to the point the Daily Record should’ve been her first port of call. Perhaps she didn’t like their advice?

    In either case neither Labour or DR should be signing a blank cheque. However given what happened in Glasgow it’s at least credible someone in Labour did.

    I can’t remember, did anything happen over her attempt at abusing parliamentary privilige?

  17. Jason Smoothpiece says:

    Scottish Labour the end is near for that English party.

    Scotland will be a much healthier place without all those dodgy folk.

    The whole lot of them owe Scotland an apology for the terrible damage they have done to Scotland and its people.

  18. Bugger le Panda says:

    Feral Baboons springs to mind

  19. Marcia says:

    With friends like that lot, who needs enemies.

  20. Macart says:

    Quite the pickle for them. Given their treatment of the independence movement over the past few years? My sympathy is hovering somewhere around zero.

    They brought a lot of pain, anguish and intimidation to a lot of people. Their current woes are self inflicted, entirely earned and were utterly avoidable.

    They treated the vote of Scotland’s population as somehow their property. They treated Scotland as their fiefdom. That was their first and worst misjudgement. Since losing one and being disabused of the other? They’ve reacted toward the electorate with insult, rage, intimidation and political practises that make Game of Thrones look like a comedy. Their behaviour toward the people they owe their living to has been nothing short of appalling.

    True enough that trust can take a lifetime to earn and next to no time to lose.

  21. defo says:

    Nuclear meltdown AR ?
    I’m seeing Neutron star level implosion.
    And density. 😉

    I have a deep, and personal loathing for Fi, oops, Dugdale, so one can imagine my schadenfreude levels are off the scale. With more to come!
    Couldn’t have happened to a better person, and with the WoS boss turning the screw too. Woo hoo.

  22. red sunset says:

    Did I just read that Kezia’s Daily Rag column was written by AN SNP MSP while she was away on holiday in Australia ???

    Really ???

  23. Holebender says:

    If Labour in Scotland isn’t a branch office why don’t they use their own independent resources to cover Kezia’s expenses?

  24. Fred says:

    Slab are a subsidised branch of London Labour who presumably have coughed up the lawyers fees so far! why would London throw good money after bad?

  25. Dan Huil says:

    Good to see British nationalists fighting amongst themselves. United kingdom?! Ha ha ha!

  26. Sandy W says:


    Their finances are in tatters, their reputation is in tatters, their party is in tatters.

    Tatters Dugdale.

    Not a shred of dignity left in the lot of them.

  27. ronnie anderson says:

    Who’s the next recipient to quaff from the poisoned chalice

  28. TYRAN says:

    All over a nonhomophobic joke. And not even to do with Kezia or Labour. Crazy!

  29. Clootie says:

    Quite a remarkable situation.

    Karma is a bitch – for every action there is a reaction.

    I believe that you live in the World you create.
    Independence March – happy smiling people
    Unionists – nasty angry abusive threatening sour faced numpties

    Karma at play for Labour. All that hate has to come out eventually.

  30. Andy MacNicol says:

    The two main parties in the UK are tearing themselves apart over their own internal politics, and we are supposed to believe that it is the SNP who are having a civil war.

    Personally, I think the SNP are having a laugh. By a long, long way, they are the only party in this wonderful UK of ours which has proven itself to be competent. The rest are just a shower of chancers who surely will be found out soon. Even the EU feels so sorry for them that they are trying to help them out of the hole they have dug for themselves.

  31. robertknight says:

    The snake begins to eat itself…

  32. Richard Hunter says:

    Seriously, this is the issue that members of the Labour party will go to the mat for? (Not the illegal invasion of Iraq, for example?)

  33. Phronesis says:

    The perfect antidote to any political strife and division is to come out onto the streets of Edinburgh and march in support of Scotland’s independence on the 6th of October. All of us together visibly demonstrating the power of democratic expression- the brilliantly simple ideological solution to Scotland taking its rightful place on the world stage.

  34. BJ says:

    Reminder to self.

    If Gordon Brewer is interviewing Ruth Davidson, save the electricity. Go for a walk or phone a friend.

    Nothing to see here, move along.

  35. Muscleguy says:

    Last time a SLAB bod chapped my door was a couple of months after the 2014 GE when they had only Murray as their only MP. I told him he was off reservation and Embra South was thataway.

    Next time it happens I shall ask them if they are Corbynites or Dugdalites and watch the eye twitching amongst them with amusement. Oh please universe, send me some SLABBERS to have fun with.

  36. Shinty says:

    O/T This is truly shocking (from Wings twitter)

  37. ronnie anderson says:

    Lady in Red hudoanthenoo Kezia’s still tae make her mind up whit colour she’s gon wie , wan things fur sure she’ll no be singing that song at the Karaoke night .

  38. mike cassidy says:

    And the current forecast for Saturday is sunshine.

    All journeying and thinking of journeying from no to yes are welcome.

    Even a fully-paid up member of the antisocial league like me might make the trip.

  39. Capella says:

    Stu’s evil plan to destroy SLab seems to be working out well. Particularly since they are supplying the ammunition themselves and also firing the bullets.
    If only Labour would fight the Tories. But they gave that up decades ago.

  40. galamcennalath says:

    OT BBC headline … “Ruth Davidson calls for Tory Brexit ‘silence’ – BBC News”

    Aye, because there is no Tory with more experience of ‘silence’ on any and every issue!

  41. jfngw says:

    Festival of Brexit, hopefully there is going to be free gammon sandwiches.

  42. Proud Cybernat says:

    If the SNP ever wanted a mole inside SLabour to tear it apart from within, then Kezia Dugdale would have fitted the bill perfectly.

    Hmm, I wonder…….

  43. Hamish100 says:

    Just caught up with Davidson interview with bbc Brewer. What a piss poor interview by Brewer. Sits back and listens to the lying Davidson. She was apparently talking to May last night and both will stop a Scottish referendum.So much for democracy.

    Davidsons admitted to all her inlaws coming from Northern Ireland. All that’s missing is a red hand on her lapel badge.BBC promoting the tories as the largest party in Scotland. What about her racist councillors? what about her MSP under investigations. Silence from Brewer.

  44. Clootie says:

    The papers will be all over this tomorrow………No?

  45. winifred mccartney says:

    So the conservatives can use the war office and the imperial war museum to hold fund raisers but indy walkers cannot be admitted to Stirling Castle. It is past time something was done about this from very high up in Government.

  46. galamcennalath says:

    Google …. conservative fundraiser museum

    ” 8 Feb 2018 · Conservative backers mingle with ministers at fundraiser at Natural History Museum. “

    No doubt a non political event donating to conservation causes. 🙂

  47. Capella says:

    @ winifred mccartney – I agree. It raises the question of what constitutes public space. If we are paying for it then we should be able to use it. We are not proposing to hold a meeting in someone’s private garden.

    So who owns Stirling Castle?

  48. Meindevon says:

    I can’t help but wonder why Mundell and son are so quiet about Dugdale’s staunch ‘defence’ of them?

    It’s like they are sitting back watching her take all this flack and worry on their behalf. Are they just laughing at her?

    And who wouldn’t want to be a fly on the wall at her tea time conversation with her partner?

  49. Frank Gillougley says:

    Yes, as expected, the ice picks are out in the land of our dear comrades and Richard Leonard is a party stooge straight out of the death of Stalin.

    Have never gone anywhere near those properties run by the green-quilted NTS and never will. They belong to an era that time forgot.

  50. ScottishPsyche says:

    I’m sure the money has played a huge part in their decision to withdraw support but also they surely don’t want to be associated with Dugdale and her woolly and ill-judged crusade.

    I get the impression she may have been egged on by the sycophants and hangers-on in her circle, probably the same ones who encouraged her to be the leader. She appears to be piss poor on facts and the small details of a written assurance of what would be covered and by whose authority.

    As you say though Stu this is no assurance that you will win but her lack of diligence in this area must make her legal team anxious about her being cross-examined on other stuff.

    O/T What are HisEnvScot up to? The atmosphere for INDY supporters is getting more like Spain every day.

  51. Shinty says:

    Capella says @ 4.56pm

    “So who owns Stirling Castle?”

    Exactly, I’m fucking furious about this. Any other country, they would have been welcomed with open arms, (and as previous poster suggested a welcoming group with soup and sandwiches)

    I would not be surprised if Stephen Kerr’s grubby little hands were at the helm of the complaint.

    Scotland, England’s last colony – what say you Fiona Hyslop

  52. CameronB Brodie says:

    That’s beyond silly. All the while, Scot edge closer to having their EU citizenship removed against their will. Ach well.

    Anyhoo, on the meaning of meaning and the spirit of Enlightenment.

    Structuralism, semiotics, poststructuralism and the analysis of meaning

    Semiotics: What It Means, and What It Means for You

    An Answer to the Question: ‘What Is Poststructuralism?’

  53. Capella says:

    I had a look at HESs website and the cast of characters who “manage” the historic environment on our behalf. Manage, not own.

    The section on “Our Values” has the following:

    Our values
    We stand for:

    collaboration: working closely and inclusively with others

    professionalism: striving for excellence in everything we do

    innovation: being forward-looking and creative, embracing change

    openness: transparency in our business and in our relationships

    respect: for the contribution everyone makes and in the way we treat one another

    I also downloaded their HES strategy document. I haven’t read it yet but would be surprised if it said that no political activities can be held in any of the properties which they manage. That would conflict with “embracing change” I would say.

    Will update if I come across anything. The end point of the march in Edinburgh next Saturday should be interesting.

  54. Robert Peffers says:

    @ClanDonald says: 30 September, 2018 at 1:24 pm:

    … Can you be a shadow cabinet if you’re the third biggest party?”

    No but you can if you are one of the three united British Unionist alliance parties like they have as the opposition at Holyrood.

  55. Macart says:

    Oh jings! This’ll leave a mark.

    *Waits for ‘CIVIL WAR’ headlines in the meeja.*

  56. yesindyref2 says:

    The SNP at Westminster have a shadow cabinet, though it’s officially known as a frontbench team and spokespeople:

    or from the UK Parliament site:

  57. galamcennalath says:

    Funny how a few weeks back the msm tried to fabricate a spilt and civil war in the SNP. It was, of course, complete fakery.

    Now, the two significant BritNat parties are in meltdown.

    Labour is hopelessly split between Corbynites and Blairites. It is also split over Brexit, and now the North British branch is dissolving.

    Tories have always had the anti/pro EU split, foolish Cameron let that develop into trench warfare by allowing a Leave option with no prospectus or plans. Do you want a pig in a poke? Gammon mmm, chanted the English masses. The Tories are left split between those who seem to accept grudgingly ‘Norway’ and the idealistically right who want ‘Canada’. May’s middle ground plan being still born.

    The problem with all this is Scotland will become collateral damage!

  58. Donald anderson says:

    So when did Dugdale or Leonard become “left wing”?

  59. yesindyref2 says:

    From that squawkbox:

    It is, of course, unlikely that the mainstream media will pick up Labour’s side of the story

    Indeed to that, the Tories largely get a free ride in the right-wing media.

  60. Macart says:

    Sweet baby Jeebus!

    They have to kidding!?!

    Supposedly two years into the greatest act of political and national self harm in the post war period. An act affecting and bringing misery to millions. A society fractured beyond repair, but y’know, break out the bunting and get your good self down with the Blighty spirit.


    How epically cretinous and insensitive do you have to be to even consider this idiocy? Frankly, I’d mibbies be prioritising feeding the folk in my care rather than holding a fucking street party. That day job thing they insist others do?


    Also. And again maybe just me. Why, in the name of all that’s reasonable and logical, would I want to celebrate a state that brought me and mine to such a disaster?

    That takes so much brasso, I can’t even imagine the length of the neck.

  61. chic says:

    Could she not mibbe sue someone for the money?

  62. CameronB Brodie says:

    It’s an idea to bear in mind there is usually a delay between policy action and policy effect (see Brexit).

    The Labour Market Story: An Overview 2014

    ‘Re-thinking Labour Markets: A Critical Realist-Socioeconomic Perspective’

    A Taxonomy of European Labour Markets
    Using Quality Indicators (opens as pdf)

  63. yesindyref2 says:

    Even the BBC is now putting our precious union in inverted commas:

    “Prime Minister Theresa May said the festival will strengthen what she describes as “our precious union”.”

    When the BBC recognise the game’s up, then the game’s up!

    Won’e be long before they’ll be crying it “the previous union”.

    Won’t be long now.

    Bye bye and thanks for all the pish.

  64. CameronB Brodie says:

    Sorry, wrong thread.

  65. Macart says:


    Pretty much. I think we know the drill where the meeja and their chooms are concerned these days. 😉

  66. Colin Stuart says:

    Not the least wonderful result of Kez’s refusal to withdraw and apologise for the “homophobic” silliness is that the original reference to Oliver Mundell’s oratorical shortcomings is getting multiple, repeated exposure across numerous media platforms, all free of charge. The incidental confirmation that Labour is an ongoing, comprehensive, catastrophic SNAFU is just a bonus.

  67. Cubby says:

    Is Dugdale an SNP Trojan horse?

    Secret agent Dugdale strikes a blow for independence.

  68. Shinty says:

    O/T a must read, from Wings twitter

    Marr/May written exchange

  69. Cod says:

    “Kez spent her entire leadership dispelling the myth that Scotland is just a branch office.”

    Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.



    And I bet that was written without the slightest shred of irony.

  70. Suzanne says:

    The anger from Labour supporters on Twitter is real. How dare Kezia expect ordinary, low-paid supporters to foot her libel bill via their hard-earned subscriptions etc etc. The troops aren’t happy. Leonard’s under siege, Kezia’s stamping around furiously and I bet Sarwar is rubbing his hands with anticipation.

    And to think that Kezia could have stopped all this from happening with a simple apology and a charity donation. It’s not as if Stu didn’t give her ample chance to save herself.

    That whirlwind sure is being reaped big time.

  71. Ryan M says:

    A Civil War right enough…lets hope Scottish Labour just turn to dust at the end.

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