Wings Over Scotland

Sorry what a dick to think we will believe this nonsense. I need to go for a lie down laughing too much.

After bravado of War with Syria threat we are next!
Wow what a week!

That story is a year old.

A Tory MP, the Daily Express, a kick in the heed , pick any option and get the same effect.

A sare heed.

Honestly have you every seen such shite in the unionist papers just lately.

It is the last heavy industry in their Brexit UK now. So its no wonder they wont give it up to anyone, let alone the nation state that does own it all.

“You`re no gettin it,

and if yi did get it there`s nane left onyway,

an if there wiz some left and yi did get it it`s no worth anythin onyway,

tongs ya bas ”

said Sir Bill Cash.

Xaracen says:
13 April, 2018 at 6:46 pm
That story is a year old….

No it isn’t. I heard it in the 70’s.

Maybe the nuclear option can be resisted by the Superpowers, allowing endless conventional war, with Scotland’s oil and strategic usefulness buffering England’s elitist stupidity.

The Tories have been saying that since 1970.

If England’s nice to us, who knows, we might even share the oil with them for a transitional period of five or ten years, to underwrite any new currency policy.

Worth highlighting the story again anyway.

If only to illustrate yet again the grasping,theiving parasitic nature of an English/British Nationalist.

The BritNats say it is almost worthless and run out anyway,so why are they so afraid of losing it?

Because they are theiving liars is the truth.

There’s oil there’s no oil, it’ll run out on Tuesday, multi squillionaire Ian Wood puts strawberries in his and drinks it with a straw it’s so scarce

If Scotland wins Independence has it not dawned on these divs
going to court to claim it’s still theirs just won’t work because it’ll be within Scotlands international waters and borders then and not UK national waters they’ll have their own wee border with thousands of guards employed to keep out the not English people till they’re broke then they’ll have a change of government and ask them all to come back again

But they still won’t have the oil they keep telling us Scotland doesn’t have

Shinty @ 7.55pm

We could well be back more than half a millennium in having to fight-off English aggression and territorial demands.

It might actually be that the Tories don’t understand the fact that there is no UK without Scotland. When Scotland becomes Independent the Act of Union 1707 is abolished and the treaty that created the UK ends leaving behind the Parliament of England Wales which wont have any claims to anything that don’t belong to England or Wales.
That’s without taking International Maritime law at face value which is very clear about who owns what waters in terms of geographical territorial claims.
Cash is just another fucked up wee fascist bastard who wont see or acknowledge any reality that doesn’t fit in with his own needs and wants.

Not a lot about administrative error Jeremy Hunt on the EBC. Although he is in charge of the NHS. Funny that.

Well the Express isnae Cash ing in wie that pish

One year, makes little difference, it’s the sort of thing we need to keep sharing.

If you pop over to the National Library of Scotland’s image archive you will find loads of films about Scotland’s wealth of industries, including oil, and that was way back in the 1950s. They built a pipeline from the West coast to Grangemouth to take the shale oil away on boats, to er, England no doubt. Lots of the really controversial films are not available online, but many are,

Scotland has been had, big time! Meanwhile the Britnats, on both sides the Tweed, kept Scotland poor and begging.

Just before indy ref 2014, I was on a bus reading a paper, 2 young lassies were interested that I was wearing a yes badge, Westerhailes, Edinburgh. They asked, but ‘whose oil is it?’ I said well it’s Scotland’s oil, the whole bus was listening. Loved it, you could feel the atmosphere, people were interested and wanted conversation.

So as many shares about the oil, the McCrone report, Scotland’s resources today, it all get’s through much to the absolute annoyance of the Britnats.

If the rUK was a teensy bit willing to share, we could share as well. As Gordon Indy car guy says,
let’s discuss that. They would ‘t deserve any share in our oil, but it might get us independence. Anyone? Btw, it takes years to prospect for oil and such stuff, so any fabrication of the companies and UKGov back in 2010 onwards about it all drying up is, well, total, utter fabrication. Hate the dirty stuff, but Scotland, and in fact UK, could have been so much more OK, if the Britnats had!’t had their mucky paws all over it!

Let’s not mention the massive gold mine about to tear up the hills at Tyndrum, for the Scotgold company, an Australian company! I wonder where the loads of cash will go, hmmm….Gold, black or yellow, it’s there for the stealing, if we let them.

Rock 8.14pm. Nah,Only 55% of them.

The only question is will we trade our oil in dollars or yen, always options, which one to choose!

These damned oil fields are like the cooling system on my old car. Every time I plug a leak ,a new one appears.

Ronnie A 10.11 pm

Gordon’s comment was made on 1st April I hope it was an April fool

England and their peoples remind me of the old Holywood actress who refuses to believe that she is no longer the star she used to be.

She still thinks the world adores her and looks to her for moral judgement and guidance.

Somebody needs to tell this old actress (england), that the party is over. no one listens to you any more and worse still, nobody cares.

Will you tell her or will I.???

My “oil parable” … written BEFORE Indy Ref 1. (Needs updating in places, but I hope you still enjoy it.)

37. (of 60)

The Scott family trunk

Jack Union was an inveterate gambler. As often as not, he was to be seen in one of the many casinos in town. He was seldom seen in these places without his bosom pal, Sam Washington.

Like most gamblers, Jack Union lost more money than he won. But that did not stop his addiction to roulette, blackjack or slot machines. On the contrary, the more he lost, the more he would stake in the (often erroneous) belief that this outward appearance of riches would influence the roulette wheel or the card dealer and he would recoup (and with interest) his initial ante.

Most of the croupiers had by now got wind of this piece of ostentatious bravado on the part of Jack Union, had seen it for the pretence of power or sham that it really was, and had happily arranged matters so that Jack Union would continue to lose money at their casinos. So it was then that Jack Union, and egged on by Sam Washington, could be seen squandering his money on the throw of a die or on the turn of a card night after night.

In fact, it would be charitable to say that Jack Union was throwing his own money about on the gaming tables and elsewhere. One might have allowed Jack Union the personal choice of frittering away his money. Maybe one might have suggested, very tactfully of course, that he seek counselling for his addiction. But, if rebuffed, a likely scenario as not, one could shrug one’s shoulders, withdraw and walk on by. To each their own.

What was more pernicious however was that in fact, Jack Union was gambling away money that he held on trust for others. In so doing, he was not only breaking legal principles but also his moral obligations towards those others.

Some time previously, Jack Union’s neighbours, the Scott family, had fallen on hard times. In order to raise some revenue they had been obliged to sell an old trunk which had been in the family for centuries and was considered to be a valuable heirloom. The trunk was therefore sold to the brokers, Purcell O. Rogues on Cabal Street in town. The sum realised was a meagre £17.07. Rogues had then sold the trunk on to Jack Union at a healthy profit to themselves, with the (and as it turned out, unenforceable) caveat that he, Jack Union, would look after the Scotts in any business dealings involving the trunk.

Now the trunk also came with a large amount of a thick, black and unpalatable liquid which was held in a vast number of bottles. Jack Union quickly seized the opportunity afforded to him by this and began to sell off the bottles of black liquid, thus making a big profit for himself. Obviously, monies accruing from the sales of this commodity were then “invested” in the casinos – not transferred to the Scotts as detailed under the trust deed. Thus, the profits fed Jack Union’s gambling addiction and also underlined his illegal and immoral conduct as the Scotts’ trustee and guarantor.

Naturally, the Scotts were not best pleased at Jack Union’s behaviour. What they considered to be their birthright was being sold off in order to finance Jack Union’s gambling lust. So they gathered together, decided to enlist the support of their friends, notably Jacob Ite and his dashing young lieutenant, Charlie Stewart, to petition Jack Union for the return of the trunk. To no avail. Redcotes, Jack Union’s butler, refused them entry and gave Jacob Ite a bloody nose on the doorstep of Culloden House. Charlie Stewart was forced to flee for his life when Redcotes called for the enforcer, Butcher-Cumberland. (This last was known in town for his savagery and ferocity. Butcher-Cumberland was not a man to be trifled with nor crossed.)

Having dismissed Jacob Ite’s petition out of hand, Jack Union reinforced his position and continued to act with impunity. When the trunk was not in use, he had it securely padlocked. Redcotes acted the dutiful retainer. A private army was maintained under Marshal-Wade to crush any future attempt by the Scotts to regain the historic trunk. In the legal domain, Messrs. Darling, Lamont, Davidson and Davidson (Solicitors and Commissioners for Oaths – the last named partner was well-known for administering oaths) spun legal principles in order to maintain Jack Union’s authority over the Scotts, deprive them of the historic trunk and protect him from being sued for breach of the trust deed. (The other partner in this legal practice was said to be on sick leave. Contrary to popular belief, Rennies give you indigestion – not relieve you of it).

With all this in mind, Jack Union therefore felt secure that nothing could hinder his progress to further profits and his enjoyment of gambling.

*****

But as is often the case, nemesis is to be found to be a close companion of hubris. One evening, Jack Union lost a much larger sum than normal at the Iraq Venture casino. At his side, as was usual, was his best friend, Sam Washington. Now, subsequently, and although the link between the two was not proven, a few weeks later Jack Union was barred from the AAA Club. In private, he was furious at this slight to his seemingly invincible self-confidence. In public however, Jack Union insisted that there would be no change in his outward behaviour. He had to keep up appearances. He would continue to squ- – errmm – invest the monies earned from the sale of the bottles of the black liquid in other casinos.

The Scotts, quite naturally, were appalled by the man’s brazenness. There had to be a way of reclaiming their historic trunk. They had to shock Jack Union into realising what he was doing and that like all gamblers and cheats he would ultimately be left all alone with no friends or money. Not that they felt any pity for him, of course – it had gone too far for that.

Yes, that was it. They, the Scotts, would have to take matters into their own hands. They would have take the trunk back themselves. They would also get a Salmond key from Jenkins’s the locksmiths on h-Aye Street in town. This key would serve as a skeleton key, opening any lock, removing any obstacle to their acquiring the trunk, and most importantly opening the padlock to the trunk itself which Jack Union had placed on it, once it had been returned home. The regaining of the Scott family trunk then would quite literally be in their hands.

Next, a date for the planned day for liberating the trunk from Jack Union’s house had to be agreed upon. It was then unanimously accepted that 18 September was ideal – most of Jack Union’s private army would be away on leave or square bashing at their annual muster in Aldershot or Brighton or Blackpool or wherever at that time. (It did not really matter where – it was enough to know that most of the Praetorian Guard as it were would be away then).

The Scotts and their followers would then be able to rush on Jack Union’s house, seize the trunk and return both it and the bottles of black liquid back to their rightful owners.

An element of surprise was vital – Jack Union and his cohorts would not (nor indeed, should not) expect an attack. In order to avoid being seen by either Redcotes or Butcher-Cumberland or indeed PC Cameron, it was decided that the action to liberate the historic trunk had to occur at night. (They took their cue from the actions of a previous generation who had successfully carried off the Stone of Destiny just before eight o’clock – ten to eight or 19.50 to be exact – one Christmas Night). The date, 18 September had been fixed. Watches were to be synchronised for a little before a quarter past eight, 20.14, on that evening.

Will the Scotts be successful in winning back their old family heirloom, their historic birthright and talisman as represented by the trunk and the bottles of black liquid? Will the trunk once more have pride of place in their home – its proper home? The family know that it is tantalisingly close to their grasp. They also know that if they fail that the retribution of Jack Union and his associates will be harsh and unmitigating.

They also know that if they succeed that they will be depriving Jack Union of his money making schemes at their expense. On learning of the loss of the trunk and the bottles of black unpalatable liquid, Jack Union will find he will no longer have the means of funding his once lavish and extravagant lifestyle. He will expire a bitter and twisted man. Jack Union’s downfall and demise will not be lamented in the Scott household.
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Craig Macinnes 10.24pm

“…I’ve just watched BBC 10 o’clock news…”

You must be made of stronger stuff than me Craig.

I just can’t bring myself to watch any news bulletins at the moment.

It is an assault on my intelligence mate..LOL

Re; Ronnie Anderson@10.11

I see thanks. Nah, to sell our oilfields would be daft. Scotland though has just this week proven to be doing exceptionally well in renewable energy. It’s such a shame it is still not the go to policy of UKOK gov, because even their kids and grandkids will be cursing them when the chips are down and there is no clean air to breathe, and no clean water to drink. But yeh, I had a couple of Yoon pals, Labour, proud Scot buts,who aksed why we would want the oil, ‘it’s dirty’, they said. Aye I said, it’s absolutely freaking minging in your Labour and Tory hands so it is! They reckoned Scotland’s whisky was just creating a drink problem with it being exported as well.

That would be like saying to France stop exporting your wine, it’s causing people to drink it!

England and their peoples remind me of the old Holywood actress who refuses to believe that she is no longer the star she used to be.

She still thinks the world adores her and looks to her for moral judgement and guidance

Twa l’s in Hollywood CJ.

Also CJ, the world tends not look to Hollywood actresses for “moral judgement and guidance,” nor is it offered by them much at all.

Oprah, maybe. But Oprah is still the star she used to be.

Then there’s Ronnie Reagan too.

Must try harder, CJ the sexist .

Tomorrow’s National front page:

Forget about oil, the Empire will NEVER let Scotchland break away, because they have to keep their Nukes somewhere away from ENGERLAND.
Simples.
If Mr Bumbles(Boris) cannot get the world cup away from Russia, Qatar will be next in line for England’s fuckwittery.
Palestine is getting destroyed daily by the Israeli Ziononists and the west do FUCK ALL.(this does not make me anti-Semitic).
Putin and Assad are the good guys.(The rest of the world leaders are an embarrassment).
No idea who the Tory plamph is in the picture and basically I don’t give a shit.

England’s Prime Minister Theresa May is making a complete arse of herself. She is actually waiting to see what Donald Trump is going to do before she decides whether she bombs Syria or not.

And this is also the same clown who is leading us out of the EU.

We surely deserve better than this.

@ian murray says: 13 April, 2018 at 9:51 pm:

“When Scotland introduces its own currency I am quite sure that the Scottish Pound will very quickly be worth than the English pound
and the sooner the better.”

Would the year 1707 be, “sooner the better”, Ian?

That’s when Scotland got her own currency and you can read all about it in the Treaty of Union- here’s a sample:-

“XVI. THAT from and after the Union, the Coin shall be of the same Standard and Value throughout the United Kingdom, as now in England, and a Mint shall be continued in Scotland; under the same Rules as the Mint in England, and the present Officers of the Mint continued, subject to such Regulations and Alterations as Her Majesty, her Heirs or Successors, or the Parliament of Great Britain shall think fit.”

In 1707 it was agreed that Scots Banks could legally print their own banknotes and thus Scotland has always had a distinct currency but tied to the English Pound Sterling. When a Scots bank prints off a batch of banknotes it has to legally deposit a special high value bank note in an account in the Bank of England to the value of the notes they printed.

This money does not belong to England it is Scottish Money. When the Union ends that money will be returned to Scotland as it belongs to Scotland but, as the Bank of England has never in its entire history belonged to England as it remained a private company until 1946 when it was nationalised by, The United Kingdom. Then Scotland owns a negotiable part of it.

So if Scotland creates a central bank, (and there are moves being made in that direction just now), then they have a choice to declare the Scots Pound Sterling as Scotland’s currency. It is distinctive enough for English retailers to refuse to accept it or even offer less than its face value to any Scot attempting to use Scots pounds in England.

Then Holyrood can decide if it is advantageous to tie the Scots pound Sterling to the English Pound Sterling or let it float freely on the currency market.

The Pound Sterling has long been an international Trading currency and as such is bought and sold like any other commodity. This is why every news broadcast and newspaper has the rates of international trading currencies quoted against each other on their financial pages.

What that means is that no one can prevent any country from buying and using any international trading currency as its own. Many in fact do just that. In fact I’d bet that the Scots Pound Sterling, if NOT tied to the English Pound Sterling would soon rise dramatically against the English Pound.

Which was one of the things Gavin McCrone warned the UK government about in the McCrone report:-

link to en.wikipedia.org

Which was why Westminster panicked and hid the report away in a vault for so many years. The same conditions warned about still exist today and would have the same result. It is not a good thing to have your currency rise against another but it is a damned site worse for the one it has risen against. The bright side is that there are things, good things, that a good government can do to mitigate such circumstance.

Re ‘what currency’

Read and weep!

“At midnight on 31 December 1992, the Czechoslovak Republic bifurcated into the Czech Republic and the Slovak Republic. In 1993, the newly independent Slovakia introduced its own koruna, replacing the Czechoslovak koruna at par. Provisional banknotes were issued in denominations of 20, 50, 100, 500, and 1,000 korún by affixing stamps bearing the coat of arms of Slovakia and the denomination to Czechoslovak banknotes.[2] The main motifs on the obverses of the banknotes represent important people living in the territory of the present Slovakia in various historical eras. On the reverses, these motifs are completed by depicting places where these people lived and were active.”

And that was them for 16 years until they joined the euro.

Imagine a newly Independent Scotland simply sticking things on to existing banknotes and saying

Right. That’s the currency fixed!

But Jackie thinks everybody loves her!
Hogmany every news where you are night.

Don’t remind me. Only 8 months to go. Jacky’s been Beeb Scotland’s news “anchor” since before they invented actual anchors but she’s a Hollywood star? Long to reign over us, tell us we’re all shite and, there’s been a murder…

this is a concerted effort to discredit this site folks, wise up.
heed
wake up and smell the coffee

wake up and smell the coffee

Of course SC. I like to light them up from time to time. We get endlessly lied to and bullshitted all time, by yoons, day and day out and then up they pop with more cunning stunts:D

`U.S. started its military action against Damascus before daybreak Saturday as loud explosions were heard reverberating across the Syrian capital with red dots seen flying from earth to the sky in what appeared to be air defenses responding to the U.S.`

jeezo.

What happened to Kinters? Hope he’s OK.

Just to point out to the poster above about Scotland selling it’s oil in Dollars or Yen after Indy. People who don’t sell their oil in dollars quickly end up DEAD. Hugo Chavez, Saddam Hussein, both sold in Euro’s, both very dead. Gaddafi was intending to create a new oil based international currency for trading in the stuff, thereby not using the dollar. Also very DEAD. It’s no coincidence.

The CIA take it very seriously when any country even thinks about not trading oil in U.S dollars.

Please seek out ROBERT NEWMAN’s history of oil on youtube or wherever you can find it, it’s a very funny explanation of world geo-politics and oil is a huge part of it.

Just for info, there is believed to be oil in SYRIA’s west bank, and overthrowing Assad would give Israel free access to it. Which is a large part of why the U.S wants regime change in Syria.

The CIA want to install another puppet government for just this purpose.

With all the shit in Syria last night, it is no real surprise that the countries visited by the Saudi Crown Prince recently were the UK, US & France.

Syria and it’s supporters Iran, Iraq0

So we actually bombed them.

This is madness.

@Luigi
Exactly. Cameron, Hollande and Obama lost face back in 2013 when they were unable to go for missile strikes, with Cameron voted down in the Commons, Hollande not daring to go for it, and Obama isolated so unable to follow through, with Putin calmly “managing” to peacefully get Assad to sign the CWC.

So May bypassed parliament, as did Macron, and went with Trump to reset the balance of face. Let’s hopw that’s an end to it, “honours” even.

@Jockanese Wind Talker says: 13 April, 2018 at 6:53 pm:

“An unserviceable National Debt of £1.9 Trillion due to Brexit and no longer having control of Scottish natural resources.
The Kingdom of EWNI has no real national Industry and will struggle to feed, clothe and heat their population with cutting standards across imported goods.”

I agree with everything you say in that comment, Jockanese Wind Talker, but –

There is, and cannot be such a Kingdom as, “The Kingdom of EWNI”, and here’s why.

The Kingdom of England did not unite with either Wales or Ireland. The Welsh were annexed as an integral part of The Kingdom of England by, “The Statute of Rhuddlan”.

This statute was enacted on 3 March 1284 and was promulgated on 19 March at Rhuddlan Castle in North Wales by King Edward I of England. It was not an act of parliament just an enforced statute of the sovereign monarch of the Kingdom of England and, in 1284, the Rule of law in both England & Wales was The Divine Right of Kings which rule of law states that a God appointed monarch who defeats another monarch in war becomes the defeated monarch’s overlord. that is England annexed Wales.

Also The Crown of Ireland Act passed by the parliament of Ireland placed the crown of Ireland upon the King of England’s head in 1542. This followed the appointment of the English monarch as Lord of Ireland by the Holy Roman Se.

The act created the title of, “King of Ireland”, for King Henry VIII of England and his successors, who previously ruled the island as Lord of Ireland.

Thus there were no Treaties of Union in either case. Furthermore, the so called pair of, “Treaties of Union”, of 1800/1 each have the long title, “An Act for the Union of Great Britain and Ireland”. Thus they did NOT United England with Northern Ireland – they united the Union of Great Britain & Northern Ireland but as, “The Treaty Of Union of Great Britain”, of 1706/7 is a bipartite union of the then, “Kingdom of Great Britain”, it had only the kingdoms of Scotland and the two country Kingdom of England as equally sovereign partner Kingdoms.

Laughable if they try to pull that one in an international court then Northern Ireland will have to be split between the only two Kingdoms with signatures on the Treaty of Union of 1706/7. Furthermore there really are no basis of the split being along the lines of the current population ratios that Westminster claims as, for example, in North Sea revenues.

After all it is due to Westminster legislation that Scotland’s traditional greatest export is not Whisky. It is the people of Scotland.

So there you go – all that gobbledegook we get rammed down our throats on an hourly basis is Westminster propaganda. It sure as hell is not the actual legal position. Note that this is the basis of the last thread by Rev Stu. His Lordship, was obviously brainwashed to believe all the oil & gas belongs to England a.k.a. “The United Kingdom”.

Mind you, with the exception of a certain faction of Loyalists, I believe not too many Scots would want N.I. as part of The Kingdom of Scotland.

Welsh Sion , thank you for that parable it made entertaining and illuminating reading , it’s a pity it doesn’t receive funding from beeb to make it into a televisual drama ( that would be funny ) ps thanks for your support for indy hopefully the Welsh won’t be far behind

Thank you to twathater (@ 3:05 pm) for your support, too.

I hope you realized that ALL the proper nouns (Including the characters’ names) and the clock times were deliberately chosen …

These are trademark features of all 60 of my parables. 😉

Bill Cash is a huge fan of Alex Salmond. He said Alex was comparable with Charles Stuart Parnell. That is a great Parliamentary compliment.
link to heraldscotland.com