Wings Over Scotland

Nice cartoon, Chris, but….

I don’t think the current shitstorm is about Trump. He’s being played and has been since he arrived in office.

This is the man who wanted to go and crack a bottle of stolly with Vladimir Putin and the entire military security industry had conniptions.

The rest follows from that.

This whole thing was staged. No way Trump and Putin did not discuss this beforehand. Minmal damage but it will be portrayed as a massive strike by our compliant MSM. Both Russia and the US will be keen to analyse how many tomahawks the Syrians took out with their S300 systems. Quite a few, based on what happened last time.

You have to understand that the west has been completely humiliated in Syria . The they have had their asses kicked and desperately need a face-saver. And a welcome distraction for Theresa May (although a growing anti-war response may yet finish her off).

Putin probably saying to Trump = “Ok, have your strike, but I control Syria”. Trump was boxed into a corner – or was he?

This is another illegal attack on a Sovereign country.

Not in my name Treeza.

And she didn’t even bother to ask this time.

UN inspectors are due to go into Syria today, so why the hurry to bomb???

Great cartoon Chris, but a really sad situation. May and Trump desperate to move attention to what’s happening at home. Warmongers. OT , i see Nicola got her apology from The Herald. Only three months late, just like their news. !!

Great cartoon, and very, very timely. The crooked president, off to bomb some people, any people.

Not in my name, Theresa. Not in my f*****g name.

As usual we are told the bombs are ‘special’ and are targeted. They say they bombed a chemical weapons research laboratory, so does that mean it is ok for Putin to bomb Porton Down. I can see no difference.

Nicola, call the referendum, and get us away from these murderous lying clowns in Westminster.

These hypocritical swine are not doing this in my name – or the name of anyone I know! We must separate ourselves from these warmongers soonest!

Speaks for itself really.

Thanks, Chris.

US, UK and France strike Syria;
link to edition.cnn.com
link to youtube.com
🙁

The RAF are bombing right now and the decision was taken whilst their MPs were on holiday.

Many thanks, Chris.

Manufactured austerity is a class war, carefully designed to keep citizens in debt and docile. War is designed to take their mind off austerity, and if they get rebellious, to send them to fight in it.

If you despise Trump then you have to despise Treeza, two failed politicians reviving their popularity by indulging in another internationally illegal act of war.

And then there’s dim Etonian Dave I’m-really-Scots Cameron who called a referendum to save his party and only succeeded in resigning and leaving the UK to rely more than ever on the USA and psychotic Trump to do its thinking.

A depressing day.

If anybody wants to read something different:

A Sharp Shooter: link to wp.me
Goodbye Diesel: link to wp.me

Worth reading Craig Murray for a timeline of events leading up to this strike – ‘Just who’s pulling the strings?’ Puts it into perspective about why it had to happen now.
Really fed up with the crocodile tears of TM over Syrian children. No concern shown for children in Yemen.

Ah, the flabby bully boy thug with his creepy little seconds May and Macron, how many rounds?

UPDATE

OFFS! We never seem to learn. ?

link to archive.li

Syrian military reporting 110 missiles launched but “air defences effectively shot down most of them”.

One hit on a scientific research building, and 3 people injured by a “derailed” missile.

It’s just an early report, and from a partisan source, but if it’s true, 99% of US missiles are now ineffective. Think about that a minute. Right now there is Russian Wargaming Supercomputer recognising it’s upper hand and screaming “Hit them now! Hit them now”, and there’s an American Wargaming Supercomputer dropping it’s coffee cup and fumbling its lines…

I hope Theresa May is chilled to the bone this morning. All that obscene amount of defence money squandered on Trident, while the Russian’s clearly spent their defence budget on defence, and the Saudis are suddenly wondering if they kept all the receipts.

Come on Joanna Cherry and Nicola, make the warmongering Tory bastards squirm for this, and get the utterly reckless humiliation of these blundering gobshites sharpened into an effective Constitutional spearpoint. They could have started full on WW3 last night, but for the grace of Vladimir, we could all have woken up as dust in the outer atmosphere, as they charged into battle firing duds – Lady May’s fateful Charge of the Shite Brigade!

We gotta get out of this place. No more appeasement of these bloodthirsty Warmongering cretins. These creatures do NOT speak for Scotland. Commence undocking procedures.

The three Western leaders involved all currently have need of a squirrel to deflect public attention. Funny coincidence, that.

We should march in our thousands for Scotland’s independence on May 5th and at all Indy marches .A strong visual reminder that Indyref 2 is real and that the YES movement is very much alive and thriving.
‘Bairns Not Bombs’ are Scotland’s future.

yesindyref2 at 0916. I did say we are “considering”, which surely implies a degree of “caution”. I doubt that this SNP MP has any more evidence of what happened in Salisbury or the Douma “gassing” than we have. In which case he should have, given the lack of evidence, kept his mouth shout. We have felt for some time that the SNP, the best party we have, are still becoming too cozy at Westminster. We will continue to “consider” and of course fully support YES and the independence movement!

Well hopefully, willies having been waved, they can all calm down to a convulsion. Most of Syria looks like a demolition site so quite what May et al think a few cruise missiles will do is moot.

Syria had a weeks notice. Anything of value would already be moved. Drain cleaner warns you not to mix with bleach otherwise you will gas yourself with chlorine. It is hardly cutting edge weaponry that you can stop with “surgical strikes”.

If we were genuinely worried about moral decency we would guarantee the Kurds their position but that might upset Turkey.

Lucky that the OPCW inspectors start work today then. They can take a look at the sites bombed by “the West” and confirm that they were sites storing or manufacturing chemical weapons – which they no doubt inspected last time they were in Syria confirming that the chemical weapons had been destroyed.

Leaving our foreign policy and defence in the hands of these cretins is sheer madness.

Many people still think the cabal headed by May is just another bunch of Tories, they are not, they are psychopathic Nazis.

Cameron was a Tory but he was still a democrat, he consulted parliament on military action, he agreed to the Scots right to decide on independence, he saw the merits of EU membership, he saw the merits of human rights protection by remaining in the ECHR.

Every PM who was ever been pressed on the subject in the past said that independence for Scotland was up to the Scottish people. This lot are different, they believe in autocracy not democracy, they are a different animal, they are Nazis.

It’s all about resources. That’s why they must keep scotland.
I’m sick to my stomach. Genuinely want to emigrate

Surely May, Davidson, Mundell, Rees-Mogg, Johnston, Gove, Corbyn could all be with Trump facing the other way shouting squirrel. How many weeks now and brexit is off the papers front pages. What diversion next? Comet approaching earth? Still we know who is to blame.

FM spends £1/2 million ponds on her wee house (official residence) says bbc scotchland. Forgot to say whoever would be FM the residence wold need repairs.
How much Westminster repairs?

That hearing the both sides of the story thing is a real pain in the ass… link to theguardian.com

Is it not a fact that Agent Orange is a Chemical Weapon.

How many thousands of deaths and deformities of innocent civilians was that responsible for?

Hamish100

Agree, it was a disgrace how Mo’s achievement was hijacked by the narcissistic Labour leadership.

BTW my description of Macron as Tony Blair mark II has been amply demonstrated by the events of the past 24 hours.

Now let’s see if my prediction that the French people are too savvy and will rid themselves of him at the first opportunity comes to fruition.

Similar fate for May? No chance.

Chick McGregor says:
14 April, 2018 at 10:07 am
Parliament? What Parliament?
Democracy? What Democracy?
Morality? What morality?

Aye Chick. And even when we’ve got a Sovereign democratic majority to formally contest the economic stupidity of Brexit and stand firm against our unconstitutional subjugation, we walk right past it and say “Ah yes, but we don’t want that majority, we want the compelling majority for action that we haven’t got”….

If the Good Fairies of Scotland planted a little ring box for us to stumble across and find in the middle of the road, and we picked it up before it got run over, but then found it didn’t contain a precious ring but instead it contained a sparkling jewel that turned out to be Scottish Sovereignty, we’d “do the right thing”, close the box, keep it safe then hand it in to the nearest Police Station Lost and Found.

Sometimes I despair at our National meekness. If the Tories have to bear their cross as unhinged psychotic, lying sociopaths, what is our cross to bear? Some kind of damaged, low self esteem and mealy mouthed infirmity? We mustn’t do anything which might possibly hurt somebody’s feelings. It doesn’t matter what they do to us, be thankful we have the stoicism to endure it???

I don’t get it. I’m sick of it. What’s wrong with us? Are we institutionalised? Has the Union addled our brains?Have we been bullied so long and so often the damage is permanent???

I’m not saying we should suddenly turn into Vladimir Putin, but I do believe if old Vlad was running Holyrood, we’d be a respected independent Nation by now. If Scotland was already an Independent country, I’d be more than content, ecstatic even, to have the liberal pragmatic progressive government we’ve currently got. I’m just not sure it’s the darker, grimmer, nastier government that we need to get us there. I’m not comfortable being nice all the time.

“staged chemical attacks” – “Petrodollar” & “Petroyuan” – USA picking a fight through the back door in order to keeping their monopoly of “dollars per barrel” – they know they are gonna be buried soon so go to War dragging the arse licking disUnited kingdom along with them… God’s Country as we know it is about to crumble before our very eyes & guess what – SO ARE WE…

Bill McLean
Completely agree with your point above re SNP MP in National. No-one knows whether there was in fact a chemical attack in Douma – far less who was responsible if one was carried out. ‘Staged’ attack claimed by Russia is equally plausible to Western claims re Assad responsibility – to my mind, much more plausible, looking at surrounding events – but that is only my opinion. Similarly, for an MP to claim Assad ‘clearly responsible’ and to completely dismiss the claims of the Russian Ambassador as ‘disinformation’ seemingly as fact with no more justification than his own opinion, is quite irresponsible.
What has been missing from this and the Skripal affair is evidence and hard fact. Missiles have been launched before OPCW has begun its investigation on Douma. Chemical weapons factories in Syria are being discussed as though they are facts – despite OPCW supervision of Syri’s destruction of all its stocks.
Gratified that SNP position is opposed to military strikes, but appalled at the way in which they have readily aligned themselves with the UK evidence free narrative in both of these affairs. I even joined Twitter-something I vowed never to do- to tell both Nicola Sturgeon and Ian Blackford how appalled I was As an SNP member at their uncritical adoption of UK rhetoric.
Really upsetting thing about all of this is the dishonest headlong rush into strikes, sanctions etc without any evidential basis in pursuit of a political agenda – without the slightest hint of outrage from any section of BBC or MSM – and virtually no challenge to the narrative. . Probably to be expected

Bill McLean

Welcome to supporting independence but, no longer giving unquestioning support to the SNP.

In 2014 there was a tremendous feel good factor, a confidence inspiring leadership from the SNP; an SNP that was on the way up. An SNP that promoted independence.

The SNP were dominant.

Now, the SNP are dithering, diffident, indifferent to indy.

The feeling now is, the SNP are on the way out. A minority govt that have settled for cushy jobs for life as administrators of Westminster devolution and Westminster parliament.

Four wasted years. Four years that could have been used to promote indy, spent promoting the SNP. Now, the indyref mandate has been achieved, wasting time supporting the SNP is the dead end of party politics.

On a positive note, it’s good YES campaigners are no longer waiting for the SNP to lead them. No longer letting the SNP hold them back.

Independent Scotland is for everyone of any party or none.

Scotland, the country that never voted for Theresa May in England which is another country
Scotland, which never voted for President Trump because that’s in America very far away
Scotland, who never voted for President Macron of France, again because that’s another country

Notice how Scotland has NO power, zilch, nada, over what these countries decide to do

Yet between these three countries they decide to bomb another country Syria, again which is very far away, but in making that decision Scotlands name was attached to a decision Scotland wasn’t consulted on or even told about and the consequences of these countries doing what they’ve done is to upset yet another country Russia, which again is very far away and we don’t have a vote there either,and they’ve said in response to these bombings that Russia is considering banning…….. *Scotch Whisky*

You know how when you throw your arms up in the air and shout *Whit the hell did we dae*

Those are the consequences of being Scottish in Britain
you don’t even get consulted or allowed an opinion

If the Russians say decide to bomb Faslane in retaliation do we think the above countries will object by saying well Scotland actually didn’t get a say in this so would you please bomb somewhere in England instead

Thanks all for replies – as I wrote before we are “considering”. We will not be swayed by ranting anti-SNP contributors but maintain our own standards of what we expect from our political representatives. Independence for Scotland, regardless, will always be top of our wish list. Thanks all again.

@Hamish100 says: 14 April, 2018 at 10:51 am:

“FM spends £1/2 million ponds on her wee house (official residence) says bbc scotchland. Forgot to say whoever would be FM the residence wold need repairs.!

Utter pish! Hamish100 – The FM has spent nothing on repairs. Bute House belongs to Scottish Heritage and they are responsible for keeping Bute House in good repair. BTW: It also cost Scottish Heritage a bomb for Nicola’s temporary accommodation.

The tax payer had nothing to pay for.

Chris, on the money, as ever, but a tragic comment on the world in 2018.

@Bill McLean, I know you are a regular and rational poster. It is hard reading some of the SNP statements on Twitter. I just comment “not in my name”, and I want Scotland out of this shameful Union. I feel I’m at least making my feelings known. My profile is obviously pro independence.

I was shocked that Sky showed a few quick shots of footage from central Damascus. Crowds gathering to celebrate, flags, cheering. Happy that anti missile cover seems to have worked.

It’s also very telling when Russian armoured vehicles drove, quite fast, into Douma, the Syrians in the street are cheering them.

You need to be fast to catch these snippets, as it obviously doesn’t fit the narrative. They generally run as a one off as well, no doubt to assert they they are balanced.

Deeply ashamed to still be in this Union. I’m beginning to feel the longer we remain at the mercy of the Union, tarred with their filth, the more my Scottish roots are being pulled from the ground, no matter my love.

gus1940 (11-07am) – aye, 245-T.

Saturatit Vietnam, Laos & Cambodia waeit. Basturts.

Monsanto (?noo Bayer), wae thurr glyphosate (‘Roundup’,) killin wurr planet.

Dorothy Devine (11-30am) – wae ye oan thoan. Wheiy kin wae noo jist caw thurr feet fae thum. Haud thum tae coont, in say wurr aff.

Deeply ashamed to still be in this Union. I’m beginning to feel the longer we remain at the mercy of the Union, tarred with their filth, the more my Scottish roots are being pulled from the ground, no matter my love.”

This is what war does though, horrifies, frightens and dislocates decent people.

Its easy to wonder if our masters in London considered if the Syrian regime could launch a missile attack back at London or Paris. They must do.

But this is what the tories want. They want an escalation of war. They need war to keep people like you away from progress, peace and democracy.

Scottish democracy is only 21 years old Valerie.

300+ years of being British, UKOK, London rule, shithole beggar Scotland and all of it wrapped up in giant union jacks, is not going to up and leave us alone overnight or quietly.

Worth remembering that NATO supports the bombings in Syria, the SNP is a pro-NATO political party and therefore an independent Scotland would have been supportive of this action.

Gfaetheblock says:
14 April, 2018 at 12:59 pm
Worth remembering that NATO supports the bombings in Syria, the SNP is a pro-NATO political party and therefore an independent Scotland would have been supportive of this action.

There’s a big difference between 29 NATO member nation states and actually bombing other countries, that a couple of NATO members want to attack. Or the 3 that are doing it again?

Croompenstein,

A commentator who enjoys spotting logical flaws in arguments about being pro NATO and anti NATO as and when it suits the mood of the 5he day is who the fuck I am.

National Trust is just another clever tax dodge scam for the very rich, who become somehow unable to actually both pay their taxes and the upkeep of their palatial homes. So they get us to do it for them.

It goes back to post war tax evasion.

So Pollock House near us is a nice example of how the rich own their mansions, while we pay for it all.

Its all in the language use of, National Trust “manages” the ancestral home of this family. How nice of them to allow this.

wiki

Pollok House is the ancestral home of the Stirling Maxwell family, located in Pollok Country Park, Glasgow, Scotland; owned by the jardine family, it was gifted to the city council.

The house – built in 1752 and designed by William Adam – was gifted to the City of Glasgow in 1966 by Dame Anne Maxwell Macdonald, whose family had owned the estate for almost 700 years. It is now managed by the National Trust for Scotland and is open to the public.”

Is it even worth noting who they appointed as their Scot National Trust head lately.

Robert peffers

read what I wroted not what you think I writed.

I quote bbc scotchland .

I do not agree with them.

@Gfaetheblock –

So good you said it twice 🙂

Valerie at 1217 – sorry for delay in reply. Thanks for your comment but worried that you think i’m “rational”!

Gary45% says:
14 April, 2018 at 12:30 pm
So when do the west “Take Out” Netanyahu. He IS a WAR CRIMINAL, guilty of Genocide, war crimes etc, the list is tooooo long of what this despot and his Zionist accomplices have managed to get away with for generations…

Nothing would change.

I’m still getting my head around this… It’s hurting. There’s too much.

link to medium.com

Pardon in advance for the stroll through the sewer, but suspend your disbelief a second… What if the “ function” and object of Israel itself had precious little to do with Judaism? What if it isn’t “the Jews” doing all the using as Conspiracy theorists suggest, but actually the Jews being used; used to prevent the establishment of a one language, one religion Arabic people’s monoculture coming together as one Arabic Nation, and holding sway over the world through its strategic location, and it’s massive reserves of oil and natural gas. Such an Arab “Continent” would have a footprint in Europe, Russia, the Far East, AND Africa, and control ALL trade and custom through its heart. It’s called the “Middle” East for good reason.

To the greedy and seedy Western Establishment, such a United Arab State is the ultimate nightmare; the irreversible seismic shift in the global balance of power, away from the stable, successful (for some), highly profitable Old World Order of European Imperialism which left so much of the World under the control of white, predominantly English speaking European diaspora. Nevermind China, nevermind India, nevermind Africa, the “Arab” Superpower if ever it emerged, would have oil, strategic positioning, and limitless, limitless, wealth. And “we”, the Anti-Islamic West, are already derided as infidels.

I cannot comprehend whether it was planned that way, that really doesn’t bear thinking about, but modern Israel seems specifically to exist expressly to divide and antagonise the Arabic speaking World. But how do you reconcile the recent Israeli associations with Sunni Saudi Arabia? Dancing with the Devil perhaps? Israel, doomed to perpetual war with its visceral existential fear of rootless Palestinians and Shia Muslims, somehow finding common purpose with Sunni division of Islam in Saudi Arabia. Surely no coincidence that Saudi Arabia denounces Shi’ite Islam as heresy and bombs the living shit out of Yemeni and Syrian Shiites. It’s a kind of an extremist love triangle only in reverse…it’s a murderous self perpetuating hate triangle.

Pulling strings in the blue corner you have “the West” , Uncle Sam, sometimes France, always the UK, arming and funding the Israelis, arming and funding the Saudi Arabian Wahabi extremist Sunnis, (yes, even the hijacking, plane crashing, head chopping, cage burning, chemical weapon using barbarous Sunni maniacs of the ISIS variety). Over in the Red corner, you have Russia, arming and funding the Shi’a division of Islam, rooted in Iran, Afghanistan, Yemen, Syria, and who are competing with Saudi Arabia for dominant sway over all of Islam. What’s that old imperial formula again? Oh yes, invade, factionalise the population, get them at each other’s throats, then hold the balance of power with minimal invested commitment.

It’s not always easy to define the battle lines geographically however, because much like Catholic and Protestant sectarianism in our own back yard, Shi’a and Sunni sectarianism can peacefully intermingle indefinitely. Until that is some extremist nutter on a mission turns up, to tear up decades of peace, tolerance and tranquillity. When the battle lines are so blurred, you can’t really stand back and bomb it from orbit, but then you don’t need to. Just keep arming all the participants and stoking up the hatred and let predictable human weakness do the rest.

“Sell us your oil, we’ll pay you in weapons, just not those nasty Nuclear weapons. We’re not giving them to a bunch of sectarian religious fanatics”. Correction, make that another bunch of sectarian religious fanatics. “What’s that? Chemical weapons??? Ah. They’re tricky… very, very nasty. They cost extra…”.

The real kick in the head occurs when the fog begins to clear and you begin to have an epiphany. …that maybe all is not what it seems. I’m not an antisemite, so why do I feel like I might be? I’m tolerant, (actually indifferent and bored rigid) about anybody’s religion. So why do I catch myself thinking a particular prejudice when I see an Ayatollah on the TV?

Here’s a big “what if” coming, a big Jim Carey Truman Show “what if”…. What if you’re meant to hate the murderous Israelis? What if you’re also meant to fear the spread of Shi’a Islamic fundamentalism complete with all its Ayatollah’s, Clerics, and Shariah Laws. What if you’re also meant to buy the idea that Saudis might be bad ba*#!rds, but they’re rich bad ba*#!rds and on “our” side? We all have these remarkably similar predispositions, and what if that is because we are all programmed to have these perceptions? What if we need to think like this, because otherwise the whole loathsome manipulative cynicism of it all would be exposed and collapse in an instant if we didn’t?

The Jews are being used, the Shiite Muslims are being used, and the Sunni Muslims are being used, and they are all pawns in a dirty, nasty game on TV, being set up to hate and kill each other, while you, me, and “Little people” all over the world are being programmed to be docile and pacified by the treacherous scheming media. We are all groomed in what to think, feel and say about it all…. We fret with human concern about the children, some of the children anyway, but we feel utterly hopeless about doing anything, so for decade after decade we remain tolerant of our own hypocrisy and do next to nothing except tuning in to keep tabs on Truman.

Just 150 years ago, the First Nation American tribes were still being partitioned into reservations, and manipulated into dependency upon the Colonisers of their country. The Buffalo were wiped out so the Tribes could either starve or embrace dependency on Colonialist handouts. They had to live by rules of occupation, where they were told, and how they were told. Fear, massacres, and intimidation were used as tools of control.

The Middle East is just the same divide and conquer colonialism 21st Century style. Middle Eastern Countries are the Reservations; the friendly tribes get guns, the unfriendly tribes get blankets laced with smallpox. The Native Americans were monsters who scalped people alive. The Native Arabs are monsters who cut throats on live TV. Same difference? In the 19th Century, it was railroads, treachery, and mechanised slaughter versus stoneage axes, bows and arrows. In the 21st Century it is Aircraft Carriers and Tomahawk Missiles versus Ak47’s, pickup trucks and gas bottles filled with chlorine, and everywhere you look, one thing hasn’t changed. There is still the same treachery, lies, lies, and more lies…

Maybe the Arabs are lucky. When the oil is gone and the mines are cleared, perhaps they will still have their lands.

The handling of the Salisbury poisonings and now the attacks on Syria have been incompetently handled by a sabre rattling Government which appears eager to get involved in conflicts on the friendliest of evidence and has ministers who brazenly lie. Why on earth any Scottish voter wants to remain shackled to this nest of voters is utterly beyond me, particularly when UK subs are stationed just 30 miles or so away from its largest city.

rock

and lying is worse still eh rock.

you can come out under yerself. Rock is a liebour brit supporter