Wings Over Scotland

Brilliant.

Shot down in flames within the hour!

Come on the bairns, I may be a pensioner but the SNP have always had my support. Maybe I have never been rich enough or secure enough to worry about losing anything, or maybe those like me can only see disaster sticking in this union.

No New Years resolution for labour then just more of the same tired old labour lies, lies, lies – it is what they are best at and they can even do it with a straight face.

You may not remember but we do and we are not about to forget.

Priceless

The toadie gets it wrong again. Lies every time he opens his mouth. What a useless incompetent. Thanks to Labour for another failure.

This guy does not seem not to learn by his 2017 mistakes and intends to continue as before…sooner Labour voters enmasse learn we are headed over the cliff edge with brexit and their respond to a YES vote the better

Another dose of Scottish reality for SLabour.

And just another boost from stinky olde The Graun tories too, read by about zero Scots today.

That new SLab dude has been very disappointing, rising without trace, totally out of his UKOK depth. Where on earth do they get these guys, he’d be fine as a parkie maybe, with a clipboard and big set of keys.

Although, SLabour also thought millionaires like Anas, who’s company refuses flat out to pay a living wage, would make a great socialist worker SLabour leader too.

Young people understand what radical means. Labour haven’t been radical since the 1940s. You are going to have to be 95+ to have for a radical Labour government!

Want radical, here’s radical …

” SNP linking of second independence vote to Brexit “

…. that was a manefesto promise. The electorate gave a majority to parties with that policy. They elected a government with a mandate. So democracy has and will take its course. All quite alien concepts for Labour.

I have some younger types sons and daughter.

I listen to them and their friends. They are not heavily into politics except when winding me up.

The chat is they like the Independence idea, they like the SNP. Some of them have met Alex Salmond and Nicola.

They have the selfies to prove it.

They regard Labour as off limits a party for people who missed the change in Labour on the arrival of Blair.

Once pro independence I think it’s unlikely that the young folk will turn back to a English Nationalist party.

In rare political conversations when they are not at the wind up they express the view that Labour was a party that their grandfather voted for until grand dad, a former miner moved to the SNP following the arrival of Blair.

They are all rabidly anti royal it appears to be the case across their whole social group.

Labour not cool Royal not cool. Don’t start them on the Tories.

In all honesty what has labour got to offer Scotland ??? Nothing that the SNP has not already delivered if any of the unionist parties got into power in Scotland they would take away the things the SNP have given us and bring us back into to line with England remember J.,Lamonts something for nothing society ??? Well that certainly applies to the rich who labour are careful not to offend a real Labour Party would do away with all tax loopholes off shore havens etc., and the House of Lords but they are adding to it ??? Also trident and spend all the money saved on the people they have the gall to say they represent pass the sick bag please

You’d think Mr Leonard would get tired of facepalming in public… but apparently not. Then again you’d also think the journalists of these titles might do some fact checking on latest poll data to verify the statements of the folk they’re giving a platform to. (shrugs)

I always get the impression from Leonard that a small engineering works is missing a shop steward.keep it up Mr Cambell your doing a great job on these idiots.

Yeah! Just look in the mirror Mr Leonard, your ‘youth’ is fast slipping away.
Join ‘Scottish Labour’ and enter our super competition for a mega cool Twingo!

I don’t think Labour fully realise how much the young are concerned about losing their EU citizenship. They are playing a very dangerous card in their support for Brexit.

Time I think, to open a fact-check page on Richard Leonard, like his predecessor Kezia Dugdale, Leonard’s utterings aren’t laced with much veracity at all.

if any of the unionist parties got into power in Scotland they would … bring us back into to line with England

Exactly. That’s what devolution, the Scottish Parliament, and the North British branch offices of Unionist parties are SUPPOSED to be for. Keep Scotland in line, and definitely don’t allow it to take a significantly different course. It was all intended to be a veneer of fake democracy.

The Unionist solution to the democratic deficit of Westminster rule and Scottish constitutional issues is ….. Scots need to stop being different!

All the problems would go away overnight if only we would just do as the English do, on every matter.

Things have gone far too far for that to ever happen now!

Their game’s a bogey, an’ the ba’s oan the slates.

There can be no dispute that Scottish Labour put forward very radical policies— prior to elections that is.

However in my many years experience there is inevitably a failure to carry them out. I can be as radical as I wish when not in control. I can promise you the moon on a plate, until I get elected.

This particular Rumpelstiltskin will take your straw and turn it into —-straw.

Experience teaches us many things, but none more valuable than the old adage “Fool me once ,shame on you, Fool me twice, shame on me”.

Nice display of red tory in its Scotland region doublespeak, which The Graun ligger dutifully swallows to the very last drop. Whatever became of the 80’s Grauniad, now stuffed to the gunnels with sneaky creepy blue tories.

“I do not consider myself to be a Corbynista. The similarities between myself and Jeremy Corbyn are about our approach to politics. I’ve been a longstanding member of the Labour party, and my views have been pretty consistent. That’s meant I’ve been off-message and out of step from time to time, but I do think that the result of the leadership election signifies that maybe I am now in step and I do represent the direction that members of the Scottish Labour party want the party to go in.”

Vote for radical SLabour young Scots! what with their all new exciting, “We’ve been out of step from time to time,” placards.

Does he feel out of step with the view of Scottish people, given that 62% voted to remain in the EU in 2016? “I feel comfortable and in step with my own democratic principles. The franchise for the 2016 referendum was the UK and you can’t try and change the goalposts afterwards. It’s like saying in 2014 Glasgow voted yes, Dundee voted yes, therefore they should be cordoned off. It doesn’t work like that.”

Someone needs to explain the difference between cities and countries to this complete nugget..

“Fool me once ,shame on you, Fool me twice, shame on me”.

Exactly. So why do so many of the oldies (my age group) who have lived through seemingly endless lies/incompetence/greed from the UK parties continue to support them. Baffles me beyond belief.

Like everyone else, i just can’t be bothered with these insulting dingbats anymore whatsoever.

Argo.

Leonard is not a leader and never will be!

He has no history, profile or passion!

He is a temporary placeman because as he worships at the altar of another who is also not a leader.

As a proposition to a young person:

“Do you wish Scots to run Scotland or are you happy for English tories to run Scotland?”

So basically his radical credentials are that he has done nothing out of the ordinary. Ever.

Well I had never heard of him prior to his leadership contest. Maybe that is all that is left for Labour.

OT sort of

I see on Twitter there is a crisis in several hospitals darn sarf.

Some are over capacity and unable to unload Ambulances.

Several folk including, allegedly, Doctors are in despair and the Tories are getting the blame, rightly for the mess.

But what do folk in England do? Vote Labour?

Labour run the health service in Wales, how’s that going just now?

English folk have nowhere to go a choice between Labour and Tories, think about that. No wonder folk are coming North in decent numbers to escape the mess that is failed England.

Still they can always call out the Red Cross, again.

@ Ian,

“So why do so many oldies– continue to support them ? “.

Why do people stay in abusive relationships? The answer to leave seems simple enough,but is not often taken. The strange but accurate answer is that people find an excuse to mitigate for such things. They talk about better the devil you know, how it is too late to change, lack of alternatives, reduction in security no matter what tenuous it may already seem to the onlooker.

Custom and habit through family traditions, expectations, even social class all play a part. Call it programming if you will, but we have been taught ,as I was myself that Labour was the party of the working class.

We have to break that link, primarily now created by the trade union movement who still evolve and revolve around Labour party financing and policy.

It can be done.

Bob Mack @ 2.57

Bob you are right about the influence of the union’s very often a recruiting ground for Labour and almost always uncritical of Labour.

There needs to be a change in the way workers organise I have said before not sure what the best way forward is but I think a new Union for pro independence workers I think it would be a great boost to the campaign and would serve the workers better.

There has been little or no outcry from the Unions over anything recently, Catalonia, SiU scandal, the plan to murder the Irish PM.

Silence as their loyalty is towards the establishment the UKOK comes first for the Unions.

Some branches don’t even advertise branch meetings, keeps the proles away stops difficult questions being asked.

@Croompenstein says:
1 January, 2018 at 2:12 pm
Does he feel out of step with the view of Scottish people, given that 62% voted to remain in the EU in 2016?
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It’s more than just that. The Referendum on EU membership was open-ended (too much so you might say). So even though the leavers won, there was nothing in the referendum question that suggested it should be the hardest of Brexits. It was in fact a discretionary vote, the government didn’t have to do anything (though perhaps moral pressure to do something).

That means – and it was a narrow win for leavers so this should be even more so – that the strongest case is for the mildest of Brexits. And a case for areas like Scotland to have their own version of Brexit – after all they’re saying they’ll keep Ireland border-less (though how much they can be believed?). But because May is appeasing the hardliners we’re going for the worst of all options.

@Jason Smoothpiece,

The problem with starting a new Union is simply this. You can gain membership but there is no guarantee or certainty that the workplace will recognise their role. I believe that nurses in Scotland tried such a move several years ago with a new union called IFON. The Health boards did not recognise them but still listened to Unison etc who opposed IFON at every turn.

Considering the opposition that would be created by National Unions and indeed Westminster who control workers rights, it may be problematic

Re the Grauniad, this article is just another of their attempts to build up the latest branch office assistant manager as the political genius who’s going to stick it to the SNP. Anent Wendy Alexander, Iain Gray, Johanna Lamont, Jim Murphy, Kez Dugdale…

Libby and Sev get money for jam, ‘cos every few months they’ve just got to dig out the original article and change the names. LOL!

Sorry for going O/T so early peeps.

As a lot of us know the good old BBC have announced that they are going to fund “local” reporters around the UK. These “local” reporters will actually be coming from the local newspapers which are by and large owned by THREE newspaper groups namely Trinity Mirror, Newsquest and Johnston Press.

Here is a full breakdown of how many reporters are being used by BBC in each identified region.

NOTE!

Keep a sharp lookout for the number of reporters across Scotland, there are a few surprises there. 😉

link to archive.is

Schoolboy British Nationalist errors again from Ricky Bobby Leonard
Scotland is past the whole idea that we need “rulers” Scotland needs government and that means involvement by the people for the people

Oooh, that’s what the SNP do

Boom!!! mike dropped!!!

Keep a sharp lookout for the number of reporters across Scotland, there are a few surprises there.”

BBC pumping stacks more cash into Press and Journal style local neo fascism for local neo fascists.

Scotland’s hard core tory hackdom gets a lot more BBC money than any other region in their UK is probably not that surprising is it, millions of quid just sitting there, waiting to be thrown at tories. Very UKOK.

Makes a lot of sense though, for the beeb attack propagandists to inject millions into local rags in Scotland ofcourse.

As newspaper sales plummet in their BBC Scotland region, its a pretty slick means of boosting them all up a bit, for a while at least.

Certainly with indy ref2 coming, beeb gimp network is really going to be stretched trying to terrorise Scots into keeping this shithead union in charge, again.

All tory hands to pumps, red and blue, have some of our beeb gimp licence money, Mr Thomson.

Will JK Trolling be donating another million or so into BetterTogether 2.0.

There’s your headline.

Blimey! Leonard’s as ditsy as Dugdale. The public suicide of SLAB continues unabated.

Oh death where is thy sting !

British nationalists in England parrot British nationalists in Scotland. Both groups haven’t a clue.

Bob Mack…
You are correct, at present I have a cousin in an abusive relationship, when we asked her why she was not leaving him she replied , because I dont know what will happen if I do, I replied , but you know what will happen if you stay. Same as Scotland’s situation so why can’t more of Scotlands people see this and go for change instead of staying with the same old tories of all their colours

I think it’s a closed mentality, where the views of a few vocal people such as bloggers and activists – incuding their own activists – are the only ones getting through to Labour. And also that perhaps they’re being a bit blind-sided by looking at people who have moved to YES and are making their views known about radical policies. But by far the most people put politics very much second to, well, pretty much anything basically, accomodation, finances, drink, food, transport including a car, holidays, did I say drink?

Brake

Another great post.

The thing is, Mr.Leonard, is that our young people can see right through the total utter mince on offer from the Labour Party in Scotland.Our young people were given the opportunity to explore the ideas of those who have thought in different and more profound ways about how to live in this world of ours…in a way that connects with the passions and preoccupations inside their heads.

They see things newly and differently. You never did bother your arses to listen to them because to do so runs the risk of having to change the way you see the world. Nothing radical about the fact that your deid and mingin party was rejected by most of them. Go figure.

Richard Leonard just another “ Labour establishment stooge” . He knows ( as does his London boss) that the unionist Labour Party ( including the Scottish regional branch office) have to bow to the U.K. establishment to maintain their status as the “ reserve government” . To have any chance therefore of the keys to No. 10 the “ 2nd eleven” have to virtually showdown the “ May Tory Junta” on all major aspects of policy including trident , the constitution , the Exit from the EU, continued austerity , cosying up to the US, worshipping the Royals etc. Etc.
Richard Leonard thinks that this signals “ radical policies” to young voters in Scotland?? I am quite sure that our younger generation in Scotland are not going to be “ conned” by “ Scottish Labour” and their “ media lackies “ ( pathetic Quay or London owned “ Scottish” newspapers). These youngsters are too savvy to fall for this blatant “ Fake news reverse state propaganda “.

I’m pretty sure I saw over on Twitter someone suggesting that the good old BBC was looking at making “donations” to one or two of the Commercial TV channels in the UK. I don’t know how true this was but if so I’d be questioning them about why their TV tax is so high if they can afford to do that AND pay for “local” reporters from local newspapers to do the local reporting for them. Fortunately, for the BBC, I do not pay their ridiculous tax so I’ll not be asking any pertanent questions of them … this time at least.

It’s the BBC who are funding this idea Lochside.

Isn’t it amazing … BBC keep on about how they struggle to get by with all the TV tax the government rakes in and yet here they are funding local newspaper reporters to be their (BBC’s) local reporters and apparently also possibly making donations tothe likes of Channel 4, channel 5, and ITV.

Another great post.

The thing is, Mr Leonard, that our young people can see right through the total utter mince on offer from the Labour Party in Scotland. Our young people were given the opportunity to explore the ideas of those who have thought in different and more profound ways about how to live in this world of ours…in a way that connects with the passions and preoccupations inside their heads.They see things newly and differently. You never did bother your collective arses to listen to them because to do so runs the risk of having to change the way you see the world

Nothing radical about the fact that your deid and mingin party was rejected by most of them. Go figure.

Happy New Year Stu and all WoS contributors/readers!!

Oh how I laughed with the last developments re -SiU! What a fantastic end of the year

How can you say it was a boring year in politics, Stu when 2017 had us witnessing the disintegration of SiU, T May placing the noose around her neck by triggering A50 without Scotland’s consent, we had resignation after resignation in the Tory cabinet, we saw the tories losing their majority in Westminster and failing spectacularly to reduce the SNP seats to less than half even with the 3 britnat parties in Scotland working together, we had the theatrics of the tory conference with TMay’s coughing, P45 and the disintegrating stage, Johnson’s semi-permanently holding his foot in the mouth in his current job, we had Kezia Dugdale leaving the leadership of the branch and then choosing to eat kangaroo testicles and other revolting ‘delicacies’ rather than doing her job and the best ever: an indyref in the horizon.

And what better way to start the new year than with an opportunity like this? The chance to transform the frustration of not being able to comment on a riddled with bullsht article of Leonard into raucous laughter after reading your destroying of the man’s wildest fantasy.

Brilliant!

Always post what you think, some people might disagree but other might not, if nothing else it gets it off your chest, its good to talk or in this case post.
YES

To the number of posters who cannot understand why people cannot move on from Unionism, I would simply say Maslow.

His hierarchy of needs explains it quite simply, and in over 40 years of clinical practise it never let me down.

Stage 1 is the basic, intrinsic need for water,food ,shelter,air, and clothing. It is non negotiable because without any of these things our very survival is at risk.

Stage 2 is Security, such as in personal security, job security etc. These allow us to maintain the needs at stage 1.

Only when we have attained these basic and necessary levels can we move on to establishing proper relationships and then begin to achieve self esteem I. E. Feeling good about ourselves.

The problem we have is that the mass media and all political parties outwith the SNP , try to convince people that we cannot get past level 2 which is our security. They tell everybody that our jobs will go and as a consequence we will end up poor.

This directly influences people and whether we like it or not, it directly affects human basic instinct over which we have little control. Try stopping yourself getting angry, or letting someone prevent you from having food or a drink.

The SNP have yet to convince many older voters that they will be safe financially under their rule rather than the status quo.

Do not think for one moment that these unionist attacks are merely arbitrary. They are designed to frighten and scare especially older and working people at a basic instinctive level, and it worked.

The SNP have a job on their hands counteracting this, but it can be done Sorry for the long post.

Some of the extortion racket TV licence fees that you pay, are to go to unionist newspapers, (local journalists, if you can call them that). Who will in turn feed you back the appropriate propaganda.

More so in Scotland where bias reporting against the SNP and the Scottish government will see a inevitable increase, and you’ll be funding it through the TV licence extortion ring.

link to archive.is

Don’t pay the propaganda tax known as the TV license, do it right and it’s hassle free. One letter I’ve had from them since 2014 asking if my “circumstances had changed”.

No they haven’t I won’t pay for your pathetic propaganda to be beamed into my living room. Spend you savings on the license on Netflix or Amazon Prime. More choice and propaganda free.

How long will he last. Give it Year. To cap it all the other creep is now trying to blame Nicola because the useless incompetent did not ‘win’ the poison chalice. These people appear to live in a bubble. Totally delusional. They are taking the taxpayers for mugs. The poor mugs who have to pay for these appalling conmen.

The Tories are so despised. They have to drag people off the street to stand. That is why they are so dire and appallingly awful 3rd rate rejects. They haven’t got a clue. Habitual on the take liars. Bigots racists and perverts. Despicable. Responsible for illegally killing and maining vulnerable people. A total embarrassing disgrace.

@Bob Mack
Precisely.

Number 1 is what society replaces for “hunter-gatherers”, or at least SHOULD replace. That’s why some basic welfare is not just a benevolent part of society, it’s an aboslutely essential part. If you have “ownership” and don’t allow people to roam the land picking berries, hunting animals and chopping down trees, society MUST make sure these are available to all, regardless of circumstances.

Which means Number 2 is dependent on number 1, because if you have enough people who can’t eat, drink, breathe, stay warm and sheltered, then you have a disturbed society, and potentially a violent and “lawless” one.

What YES should consider doing is taking your 1 and 2 and putting them on the campaign material, they’re short enough to drive home the message, and it would strike a note with many people, even the Just Getting By people, and even thost who are comfortably off. Then the message has a chance to get through to all, of what is needed to be done and the best way of doing it – Union with austerity and constant cuts to state and welfare, putting not just the less fortunate at risk, but those at the better off end, or Indy which can provide the basics while enabling the “luxuries”.

OT It is 6:30pm on ne’ers day and I have fallen out with my younger brothers who only arrived t 3:30. They tell me it Ok to be right wingers and that trident is great is saves putin or kim jon attacking us. the european fishing fleet are stealing all our fish, the death penalty should be brought back , SNP really bad, we should just put up prices to all foreigners and extradite all sharia law believers and the police cannot attack child molesters/female genital mutilationists because of “PC gone mad” I am sitting quietly typing this thinking I will never get through to them and that depresses me on Jan 1

For anyone is looking for a New Year resolution, if you have not already done so please cancel the BBC licence fee.

Knowing the sheer incompetence of the SNP I bet they will want indyref2 in 2018 around 11 November, slap bang at the time of the centenary of the Armistice of WW1.

So the UK Establishment can wheel out Brown and co, to spout the mince about our ancestors died for freedom on the fields of Flanders so that’s why people in 2018 should back the Union.

Even if they don’t pick that date, it’s gonnae be Union Jack year, more than ever, with the centenary used as an excuse to promote the Union at every opportunity.

Though the SNP can want all they want, the UK Govt don’t recognise any right for devolved administrations of WM Govt to demand anything of WM.

Don’t often post on here ,but tonight I make an exception. The Boys Alexander is either a plant or he has a mental illness! That’s all folks….have a good one.

Incidentally, and brutally honest. Time is short and I scan and don’t read everything. When I saw “. . . Maslow.
His hierarchy of needs . . .” never heard of Maslow so I passed on until I saw K.A.Mylchreest “It sounds to me that you really know what you’re talking about” and went back and read it, shows the value of people highlighting some posts.

All very true Heedtracker, I’m wondering if it’s even legal for the BBC go ahead with this. The news organisations will receive funding from the BBC to cover employment costs of the reporters.

Though the SNP can want all they want, the UK Govt don’t recognise any right for devolved administrations of WM Govt to demand anything of WM

The administration isn’t demanding anything you fucking dolt, the electorate voted on a manifesto promise and the administration will fulfill that promise

Illegally using taxpayers money to fund private enterprise of MSM corruption. All that will happen is more people will refuse to pay the licence fee. The biased MSM will lose even more money as even more people refuse to buy or read their nonsense. Another lose, lose for the tainted unionists politicians, and the corrupt media. More people will support Wings the SNP and Independence.

Indulging in even more of the pathetic MSM lies, bias and misreporting. It will just turn off even more people. Reduce their revenues flow. Annoy and anger even more people. They will switch off. Another deluded unionists squander and waste of public money that will backfire. Shameful doesn’t even come into it. The majority have had enough of it.

The Guardian Oxbridge creeps. £1Billion in reserves. They have the nerve to be claiming poverty and taking money from empoverished people to fund their gross salary and expenses. In the name of ‘freedom of the Press’. Claiming they are supporting injustice. There cannot be nothing more underhand and despicable than that. Morals of the gutter. The gutter press. No wonder hardly anyone reads it.

Thank goodness for the internet.

Andy-B says:
1 January, 2018 at 8:07 pm
All very true Heedtracker, I’m wondering if it’s even legal for the BBC go ahead with this.

UK press is already massively subsidised by both UK and Scots gov with a huge ad budget. No idea how much it was say last year but previous years its several hundred million quid.

Ask Alexa, “how much does UK gov spend on ads?”

“Do you mean PR”

Both Alexa,

There’s nothing much out there at all. Most google hits stop at 2014. Shurely some mistake.

link to news.bbc.co.uk

Page last updated at 09:07 GMT, Sunday, 14 February 2010

Government advertising spending ‘rises by 40%’
Government swine flu poster
The government advertises to warn over issues like heath and road safety

Government spending on advertising and marketing has risen by almost 40% to £253m in the past year, the BBC’s Politics Show has learned.”

ULtra toryboy David Cameron was a PR ligger. Mike Hesseltine got him a start with a big PR corp, started on £70+k a year plus expenses. Its what Eton and Oxbridge is there for.

I UKOK shit you not. If there’s one thing our BBC masters know how to do, its shower themselves with wads and wads of cash.

Re the privately educated media gimps,

About 3 years back I had the prospectus for Gordonstoun school of all places. Upon reading the offending document, I could reach only one conclusion.

The school was nothing other than a prep school for those children of the rich and famous who were not quite clever enough to get into any of the top private schools such as Eton etc.

The reason for my conclusion was that some 64% of alumni find work in arts, the performing arts” or media industry. Amazing the strings that daddy can pull to better one’s career.

To really see how far the BBC has fallen you only have to look at the likes of “play for today” in the 1970s & 1980s to see the cutting edge, controversial programming that they once put out. I guess that is the leftie leaning types they are trying to expunge.

However even then they were wary of repeating certain episodes. The episode “United Kingdom” was aired one time, never to be seen again. If I recall correctly it included in its cast Ricky Tomlinson and centred around 2 councillors who refused to apply the cuts.

If ever you want to read first hand the British state at its worst, Ricky Tomlinsons biography “Ricky” is a brilliant read. 18 months he spent in prison on nonsensical charges before they ruined his life by blacklisting him from the building trade. His crime – to be on of the organisers involved with the 1974 building trades strikes.

Aired one time and then buried.

Aired one time and then buried.

Only Fools and Horses was written by a BBC stage or studio prop hand.

Last week BBC r4 Today show was all about Prince Harry and other aristos, beeb arse licking at max but they also had a beeb “debate” about how pussy grabber Orange Hitler was doing. Not with nice but dim Prince H ofcourse. He interviewed Obama, a lovely way to rub some of that first ever black Presidential progressive liberal sheen and luster, on to our royals creepshow, beeb gimp style.

John Humphries is clearly just working out his pension now but for his Orange Hitler beeb gimp debate, they matched up Simon Schama and Neil Ferguson.

Schama’s just another simpering Britnat tory beeb ligger but Ferguson is as close to regular beeb fascist explainer and apologist guest as its gets. Not even Ligger Neil goes as far right as Glasgow posh boy Ferguson.

Trump’s doing ok, they tory “argued” together, probs yes, but otherwise Orange Hitler and Trump America is just fine.

That’s world famous balanced and unbiased BBC, 2018, £3.5+bn a year, and we’re next.

I realise it would make people feel good, but not paying the TV licence does nothing to hinder BBC finances.

The TV licence fees go directly to central government, and the BBC then gets it’s allocated cash from the government. The UK government would still fund the BBC even if nobody paid their licence.

I believe it is setup, financially, in this manner so as to protect the BBC from funds ever drying up by boycotts. We will never bring down the BBC by refusal to pay TV licences – I only wish I knew what other way there could be to bring that shower of ‘baskets’ down.

@sassenach

Sure, not paying your TV license will not stop the government funding them and they will continue to broadcast.

Refusing to watch their shite though because you can’t legally do so if you don’t pay your license just might make a difference.

Fewer viewers then less influence. Paying a TV license fee is a waste of money. I’m sure we could all find better things to spend it on. They’ll never get another bean from me, that’s a fact.

@Scottie Dog,

That is perfectly correct. You cannot heat yourself with a bar of gold, but you can with a log of wood. It only becomes an issue if wood is scarce.

An example of indy ref 1 was pensions. The SNP and the indy movement spent an inordinate amount of time trying to reassure pensioners that their pensions would be paid. The doubt was then sown by the Unionist media and also social media that Westminster may or may not be responsible for such payment. For many , their pension is their prime source of income

The Rev did an article on it, but not all pensioners read Wings. There was doubt sown and that doubt was enough to influence people to remain with the assured payment from Westminster rather than take a chance that the Scottish government would pay in full. This is an area that needs to have gold plated guarantees in place.

As I stated before, Maslow second step was called into question. It may sound strange to us, but people were programmed and sure of their Westminster payment regardless if the amount was variable.

These are areas we must firm up

Moonlight, Try, it works for me.

link to facebook.com

2018 just the same jackie baillie spouted by the new new new leader of the RED tolies , and just the same pish and lies spouted by red tory leaders of LIEBOUR ad infinitum .

Do us a favour dick change the record , and for a start apologise to previous Scottish liebour voters for the lies and corruption inflicted on them by your faux socialist parasites , most of whom are now ensconced in the auld gravy train hoose of LARDS

As a previous long term liebour voter i was and am sickened and disgusted at their deliberate attempt to con young people into believing and voting for their sorry arses

A word of advice for young people looking to vote for these self serving parasites , please take a look at their previous record of non achievements and their deliberate selling out of Scotland and Scottish people , handing back 1.5 billion to wastemonster because they couldn’t think of anything worthwhile to spend it on in Scotland , the Hollyrood parliament debacle , the Edinburgh TRAM fiasco , the PFI shitstorm ,voting with the tories to sabotage any amendments to the powers after the indy ref , abstaining en masse to the return of devolved powers , suppressing the McCrone report ,do any of these fcuckups indicate a party that works for the benefit of Scotland or the Scottish people I’ll leave you to make up your own minds

@ Alba woman – if your around – just watched “Another Time Another Place” which was written by Jessie Kesson and produced by Channel 4 in 1983. It’s in Amazon Prime.
Well worth it for the fantastic scene with the Italian prisoners of war dancing and singing their own folk music. There were Italian prisoners of war near the Culter area. Jessie Kesson was brought up in an orphanage near Skene.

Made 34 years ago but a good Scottish film.

Just not watching BBC stuff is their great threat.

No matter how much they want to brainwash us into mute UK tory underlings, that fear change, work for peanuts and worship the rich, its not going to be any use if fewer and fewer eyeballs give a shit.

Question is, can their relentless BBC psyops war on Scotland really block our developing Scottish mindset, from broke wee cringer region, to nation state Scots citizens, by say 2028.

Look at how they all monstered a fine new bridge over the Forth, just last year. Or how they just no longer show Scotland international football anymore. Unthinkable in any other country, but seems to have been accepted in Scotland, or has it. Not punishment, just britnat beeb propaganda logic.

So for another decade at least, beeb gimps themselves have to believe they are blocking change in Scotland, that they can hold Scots collective national psyche down and then kill it off, by getting the SNP out. Just ask our resident SNP bad man Colin A, or the bizarro clusterfuck world of SiU green ink weirdos, like Dr Scott Thinks.

A decade might seem a long time but that’s how far ahead they all look, where they plan their Scotland region will be.

Are non countries Scotland like people though? “Human beings are works in progress that mistakenly think they are finished.” But, “The one constant in our life is change.”

So all new Richard Nobody is the new change:D

link to ted.com

I know SLAB has a problem with accuracy but 51 to 26 must be obvious even for them.

wull2 @0955

Thanks, works for my wife who does facebook, I get blocked with a request to subscribe.

There is a link to You Tube link to youtube.com

Does he feel out of step with the view of Scottish people, given that 62% voted to remain in the EU in 2016? “I feel comfortable and in step with my own democratic principles. The franchise for the 2016 referendum was the UK and you can’t try and change the goalposts afterwards. It’s like saying in 2014 Glasgow voted yes, Dundee voted yes, therefore they should be cordoned off. It doesn’t work like that.”

Someone needs to explain the difference between cities and countries to this complete nugget..

He might be a nugget but he is employing discursive psychology and a message steeped in traditional class division, to beguile the unwary. Who the feck does this branch manager think he is? He has zero autonomy from London so he will only ever be as radical as London allows.

A total charlatan and a complete waste of time, IMHO. He’s a BritNat i.e. English nationalist, need more evidence?

If newspapers like the Scottish Daily Mail, The Scotsman and so on were actually in reality commercial businesses like say ToysRus or say ANother Bank they’d be closed down and not be kept subsidised to the detriment of their shareholders profit margins

I find it strange that in this day and age when RBS can close branches all over the place and Theresa May says she can’t get involved in commercial decisions even though the public owns over 70% of that business that right wing Tory supporting newspapers can stay afloat clearly with a failed business model in Scotland

So who’s subsidising these papers and through what mechanism are they still able to justify failed sales yet remain afloat

It’s like Mafia Genco Olive oil without the oil
Mibbees Derek McKay should be looking at their tax receipts
and if he doesn’t have the power to stop them he could at least make their losses public knowledge so’s folk would at least start to wonder why they keep pumping out stuff the public isn’t paying for and on whose behalf they’re doing it

Very encouraging results from the 16 to 34 year old Scottish voters.

Another positive reminder is that Scotland’s twelve, thirteen, fourteen and fifteen year olds who were not previously eligible to vote Yes back in ’14… will be able to NOW, when the time comes. Their demographic alone could be well above 80% Yes.

‘Mon the Youth of Scotland 2018, win it for all of us!

pssst, Richard, yer nuthin’ but a wisp.

Y’know, it occurs to me that Labour are incapable of self reflection. They are incapable of apology. They are incapable of taking responsibility. Which is pretty ironic considering responsibility for our lives is the very thing they desire most.

They’ve never apologised for illegal wars. They’ve never apologised for cash for access, patronage, PFI schemes, council ALEOs, their part in sinking the first devolution referendum, stabbing Callaghan in the back, their treatment of Scotland’s electorate during the indyref and so much more. A fib to the press on their popularity?

A mere bagatelle.

To the yoonitariat and their chain tuggers? I’m not seeing much of a reason to trust Mr Leonard. TBF, I’m not seeing much of a reason to trust Labour, you or the status quo in general. Near as I can see and from well detailed historical record. You’re nothing more than thieving, murdering, fibbing bastirts.

Or is the public record of the past fifty years or so wrong?

O/T

Is it just me or are other people wondering why what we see on the telly is called English football/ I looked at the team lists that came up the other night and Noticed that one of the teams had ONE English player on the park. Which brings me to my main point.
I am a lifelong Celtic supporter. I want to see a Celtic team on the park of Scottish players – you know liker the one that won the European Cup with an all Scottish team. In fact Celtic, Rangers and Aberdeen won European tournaments with all Scottish teams -and they played football the way we were good at it -not all this fannying about in the middle of the park with a lone and lonely striker while we give the ball away deep in our own half withe other side all onside and able to pop in goals.

Sorry -went really off topic

The BBC is not the problem,

it`s those that corrupt and misuse it that are the problem,

the BBC was set up by Lord Reith to entertain,educate and inform free from outside influence,

but wasn`t long before the State started influencing the content (esp during 1926 General Strike),

like in all things the establishment infiltrated took over and brought in their own kind,mostly the brainwashed Oxbridge club,

now the BBC is the opposite of what Lord Reith envisioned,instead of educate,inform,entertain it`s fake news,propaganda and misinformation.

The north-west is mainly clear and the moon is very handsome here, shining over my bedroom windae (velux) right now. Don’t really feel quite up to go outside to have a wee howl though.

The only thing the jungle revealed was that Dugdale was one of the most boring 3rd rare reject ‘leaders’ Labour has ever had. Until this guy came along. What bugs the majority of Scottish taxpayers that they are the mugs paying for it. Really, really, really annoys some of them. They will definitely, hopefully, show it by their vote. Unless they have given up on the whole disgraceful Westminster farce and politics. Hopefully enough of them will turn out again to trough the losers out.

Here’s a video of a massive moon from oor capital city:
link to youtube.com

Plus seagull.

@Cactus

Not quite oor Capital city, but a big moon worth howling at 🙂

What is the rational of BLiS___d being led by an exponent of empty rhetoric? To win back their traditional support, simples. However, BLiS___d are a prosthetic of the British nationalist ideology, an expansionist form of English nationalism, so appear happy to see Scotland harmed by an English culture poisoned by narrow, nationalistic and misguided utilitarianism.

Anthropology, Brexit and Xenophobia in Europe

The decision of people in Britain to leave the European Union has come as a surprise, even a shock to most of my friends and colleagues who work in academia here in England. While the EU’s neoliberal tendencies and never-ending crises in banking, sovereign debt and migration made the deficiencies of the organisation clearly evident over the past years, most of us had not expected that a majority of people in England and Wales would consider a drift back into nationalism to be the appropriate response. Sure, it is not usually our job to deal in short-term predictions of social trends, and anthropologists have famously missed the rise of important political currents in the past.[1] But to many of us, the extent to which we have misread the mood of people in large parts of Britain today feels highly unsettling.

This surprise is partially grounded in the fact that the economic case for leaving the EU was unconvincing. Economic analysts inside and outside of Britain had made clear that the net weekly savings of £350m promised by the leave campaign were a myth, that abandoning the EU was likely to cost Britain far more than its actual weekly contributions, and that the British economy substantially increased its risk of recession as a result of Brexit. Michael Gove, the Conservative Justice Secretary and a key figure in the leave campaign famously countered these arguments by declaring that the people of Britain “have had enough of experts […] saying that they know what is best and getting it consistently wrong.” Today, it seems, that voters in the referendum may have tired of economic reasoning altogether. The leave vote turned out to be strongest in those parts of the country that are most economically dependent on the EU.

….Moreover, we should acknowledge that the EU referendum has been orchestrated by political elites from the start. Far from being a natural result of widespread economic inequality, this political process was instigated by the Prime Minister David Cameron to ensure the continuous support of Conservative party members. His equally privileged rival Boris Johnson pushed the economic case for saving EU membership fees and fuelled anti-bureaucratic sentiments against Brussels, while former commodities trader, lobbyist and right-wing figurehead Nigel Farage successfully equated Britain’s EU membership with a lack of control over immigration.

Their attempts at heightening and using “integralist” sentiments of romantic collective belonging, cultural difference and alienation from modern society[4] failed in Scotland and large parts of Northern Ireland. In England and Wales, however, the absence of a strong opposition allowed their triumvirate of political incompetence, an empty will to power and anti-intellectualist xenophobia to win the popular vote. It turned what could have been a measured re-assessment of political allegiances into yet another exercise in escalating tensions along national and religious lines within Europe[5]. So while the referendum has surely been shaped by economic inequality and deprivation, it has also been an illustration of right-wing elites capturing the public discourse so as to to steer public grievances toward ethnic and racial “others” – and away from their own austerity policies….

link to politicalandlegalanthro.org

@TYRAN says: 1 January, 2018 at 2:13 pm:

“This Leonard guy looks like someone who wrongly links arms at the start of “Auld Lang Syne” rather than at the end upon being instructed to do so in the lyrics.”

Nah! ‘Course he doesn’t ‘cos he sings, “Old Lang zine”, like the rest of the people of England.

A couple of links from GA Ponsonby’s Twitter page:-

link to nurses.co.uk

link to thoughtcontrolscotland.com

I honestly don’t think empty rhetoric will protect Scotland’s civil society from the autocratic, neo-liberal, authoritarianism coming from London, given the right-wing populism that delivered Brexit. Which nation is this clown being a patriot too?

Anxiety and Politics

Abstract: The English version of this article was first published in 1957. The journal tripleC: Communication, Capitalism & Critique republished it 60 years later in 2017. In this essay, Franz L. Neumann discusses the role of anxiety in politics. The article asks: How does it happen that the masses sell their souls to leaders and follow them blindly? On what does the power of attraction of leaders over masses rest? What are the historical situations in which this identification of leader and masses is successful, and what view of history do the men have who accept leaders? For answering these questions, the author suggests a combination of political economy, Freudian political psychology, and ideology critique. He sees anxiety in the context of alienation. Alienation is analysed as a multidimensional phenomenon consisting of economic, political, social and psychological alienation. Neumann introduces the notions of Caesaristic identification, institutionalised anxiety and persecutory anxiety. The essay shows that fascism remains an actual threat in capitalist societies.

link to triple-c.at

@Andy-B says: 1 January, 2018 at 8:07 pm:

“All very true Heedtracker, I’m wondering if it’s even legal for the BBC go ahead with this. The news organisations will receive funding from the BBC to cover employment costs of the reporters.”

If you had not realise long ago that the Westminster Establishment propaganda machine was a co-ordinated institution then it is long past time you did.

I’ve pointed it out often enough – It isn’t called, “The Establishment”, for nothing and when the chips are down they have always stood shoulder to shoulder against the common foe.

The party politics thing is only for the plebs – unionists are all the same and the way Labour and LibDems either vote with the Tories or abstain is easily seen as the whole unionist cabal working together.

A really free media would have never abided by such a scam as D Notices.

What are D Notices:-

“A D-Notice (also known as a DSMA-Notice or Defence and Security Media Advisory Notice) is an official request for news editors not to publish certain details of a story for reasons of national security.

D-Notices are issued by the Defence, Press and Broadcasting Advisory Committee, not, as some have claimed, the Home Office. The DPBAC is an independent body that is funded by and housed within the Ministry of Defence, but separate from the government.

D-Notices are voluntary for the media but aim to protect national security. Those responsible for issuing D-Notices say that any threat to national security must involve ‘grave danger to the State and/or individuals.'”