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The appetite for truth

Posted on May 04, 2021 by

Wings just can’t seem to stop breaking traffic records these days.

Despite having considerably fewer posts (46 to March’s 69), April saw the highest number of unique visitors to the site in close to three years. And that’s even more remarkable when you consider how hard just about everyone is trying to stop them.

A few days ago, for example, we got banned from Facebook for three days for calling the horrible racist misogynist midget Patrick Harvie a weasel.

(We assume Adam And The Ants fan pages must be having a terrible time.)

When the ban ended we posted the two images above – nothing else – to explain to people why we’d been gone for a while and hadn’t been posting links. Within minutes we got banned again, this time for seven days, literally just for explaining why we’d been banned previously, because apparently Facebook now classes its own user notices as “hate speech and inferiority”.

And of course it’s a matter of record that we’ve been banned from Twitter since late 2019. The Twitter link on our front page now links to various Wings-friendly or otherwise informative accounts readers might wish to follow (the first was Friends Of Wings, the group who run the unofficial Wings stall at marches and the like, and currently we’re firmly recommending the lively Kings Over Spotland), which sends SNP supporters into shrieking paranoid McCarthyite frenzies and frantic attempts to get those accounts shut down too.

And of course we know that no lesser a person than the First Minister herself made a rare extended appearance at a meeting of the party’s National Executive Committee to issue a fatwah that no party member must be found reading or linking to or retweeting Wings, on pain of expulsion.

(Even though they seemingly can’t take their own advice, as we’re still by far the most viewed blog within the corridors of the Scottish Government itself.)

And that’s on top of all the usual frothing, hysterical condemnations from the Unionist press and the agents employed therein. We’ve never seen Game Of Thrones, but this quote from it seems apt.

And yet it makes no difference. Readers still seek out Wings in their hundreds of thousands, vastly outstripping the audience of any other Scottish political blog (indeed, of every other Scottish political blog put together, by multiples), because they know that while they might not always want to hear what we say, it’ll always be the truth, and backed up as ever by linked sources.

(Despite the increasingly viciously hostile environment for truth in Scotland.)

In a world of fake news, open lies and toe-curling Pollyanna fan-service garbage, it’s good to know some people still care about that. And it’s revealing that the SNP now seem to fear Wings just as much as the Unionists do. Because your enemies only try to silence you when they can’t refute what you say.

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    1. Famous15 says:

      SNP1 Alba2 going viral methinks?

    2. Margaret Lindsay says:

      Your website is one of the only independence news outlets I trust, ( Barrhead Boy and Grousebeater amongst the others).
      That’s why people visit it, they either want the truth…or are afraid of it.

    3. Bob Costello says:

      Personal experience of the SNP trying to silence grassroots efforts to progress the cause of independence in Dundee, when the Yes Bus Team organised rallies after the referendum. Our crime was calling them “ Roadmap To independence “ rallies.
      The classic of course was when, during the campaign, I approached the SNP ( of which I had been a member fir 30 years) and suggested that we should get the Wee Blue Book out to every household in Dundee and that myself and John Gibson were repaired to pay all costs including postage. They had the means to do this. It took them two minutes to refuse.
      The SNP seriously have to be replaced by a proper Independence Party.

    4. Anna says:

      Maybe you should have used the word stoat. They have two coats.

    5. McHaggis69 says:

      It stuns me that so many people who retweeted your posts, supported them, shared your WBB, promoted you and used your reach to further the aims of independence…

      They hailed you as the paragon of truth in the indy argument.

      who now try and shut you down because they simply don’t like *uncomfortable* truth.

      It is fucked up. Really and utterly fucked up.

    6. TheItalianJob says:

      Good on you Stu.

    7. stonefree says:

      When asked to leave an establishment years ago,
      A pal responded…”I’ve been thrown out better places than this”
      PS it was a car accessory shop in Paisley

    8. TheItalianJob says:

      @Bob Costello at 11.50am

      The grassroots Yes campaigners (including Wingers) will distribute the wee blue and black books when we need to campaign as we did last time.

    9. AnneDon says:

      I think you should change your banner to “Scotland’s most-read blog in the Scottish Government”. Just for the lolz!

    10. And Spouse says:

      So if G Campbell believes what he says about politics, and I’ve heard this theory before, that if you have certain ideals you cannot be friends with other political doctrines. So he believes if you live in the House of Wings you cannot be a friend to the House of SNP. Therefore by default if you live in the House of Woke you cannot be friends of the House of most of the world?
      He made me consider my SNP1 vote for a moment.
      I don’t think they really have any socialist aspect, there argument is based on personal need for greed.
      Anyway Stu, as we know not all your visitors are friends. Good morning Pete!

    11. Mark Boyle says:

      “We assume Adam And The Ants fan pages must be having a terrible time.”

      Of course they are – they’re transracial!

      They believe beneath the white there is a red skin suffering from centuries of taming.

      (Gets coat …)

    12. David R says:

      The purity police in the SNP and Greens have much more important than independence to be getting on with.

    13. `SNP is a wasted vote in the regional list,
      4 seats from 1,000,000 votes last time,
      got to be Alba,
      keeps the red and blue tories out.`

      spread it far and wide on social media,

      f@ck the MSM,

      keep it simple and ignore the truth deniers and trolls and bots and misogynists and anyone with a biblical first name or with gaelic spelling or a clown that has his/him/he/her/she/hers in their bio instead of Mr or Mrs.

    14. Wendy says:

      I don’t trust newspapers
      I don’t trust politicians
      I don’t trust radio, tv

      That’s why I read Wings, the only place where truth and facts haven’t gone to die.

    15. Astonished says:

      You get the audience because you tell the truth. In my youth the daily redcoat sold nearly a million copies a day in Scotland. Now they have to pochle it to get 100,000 per day. The truth is valuable … and very much appreciated.

      On the question of banners ” Scotland’s Samizdat ” seems appropriate.

      The SNP are dying – this is the last lashing out of a seriously wounded, deranged beast ( hope you don’t mind the animal simile). And they know it. Comically the murrells and their woke handmaidens are fighting on too many fronts.

      The upcoming Olympics, when we will see the trans folk compete and take all the medals, will be an historic turning point.

      And all those who endorsed the genderwoowoo will be forced to face what they did as we remove them from all positions of power.

      Looking forward to it.

    16. Josef Ó Luain says:

      They might become just a wee bit friendlier before they leave, though. That can only be good. No?

    17. winifred mccartney says:

      Great work as usual. Thank goodness for Wings – the snp loved it when it only said good things about them and bad about their enemies. The truth is now their enemy and they are needing cleared out to make way for one true indy party with no secret agenda.

    18. true scot says:

      Just got another ‘both votes for SNP = indyref2″ leaflet. If they get a majority then I think it will be difficult to argue against a referendum without ultimately looking anti-democratic and authoritarian. It also further erodes the idea that the union is one of equal partners. One should be held at the earliest feasible opportunity.

      However.

      I fear independence under this SNP. It’s not just the corruption, and the erosion of human rights unless you fall into select categories – it’s that this is a party stuffed with over promoted council employees and quango hustlers – people who don’t understand business and would most likely monumentally f*ck up the creation of an independent country. Don’t slag all of the leadership off relentlessly and then tell me I’m talking p*sh please.

      Independence should not be about flags and feelings – it should be about prosperity. Just having resources doesn’t translate into prosperity. Ask Venezuala. You need solid governent made of people who can think their way through problems and do what’s right for the people, not just their own careers. I firmly beleive that Nicola’s mental trajectory ends at getting a referendum. Yes – she’s gone in weeks. No – she’d probably hang on. Yes would bethe start of a lot of heavy lifting – less time for selfies with the differently gendered.

      I’m not suggesting we would starve – but I am suggesting that under the SNP independence would take a long time to be succesful – and today, their only focus is a referendum with no thought on the aftermath. This is not a football league. This is about more than fist bumping the air if yes wins.

      This is about surgery to part the siamese twins of law economy and trade – trusting a corrupt, weak and image obsessed party to negoiate the settlement with a much stronger – and frankly unscrupulous – Westminster. All done behind closed doors.

      Those with mortgages, pension pots and chunky tax bills – are mobile. And Scotlnd would not have to lose too many of them as a percentage for it to have an impact on the tax bill.

      An an orphaned 9% of the rUK with most likely a restrictive border in place – business is likely to move – and again you don’t have to lose a lot to facilitate higher borrowing – for which a currency is needed.

      If that all sounds like project fear – where’s the rebuttal? I know what the SNP has planned for gender law – but apparently we need to wait for a prospectus for a referendum to know what that will look like. Think that through.

      And above all – I am NOT a unionist. I have no allegiance to the union jack and I do not ‘feel’ British. I believe in being part of thw larget possible economic area and that’s why I voted to remain in the EU. And remember – I do support a referendum if there’s a majority because democracy must never be thwarted.

      Independence will take a lot of work to be succesful and I see nobody ready for that in the SNP or the Greens.

      F*ck the SNP. They have no plan for an independent Scotland, which by the way is the country I’ve lived in my whole life and I would like my children to live in too.

    19. katherine hamilton says:

      We all have our absolutes which means we can never countenance doing some things, politically speaking. As it happens mines is the same as Wings ie voting Tory. I’ll still argue with them though. I disagreed with Wings on the abstaining post yesterday and gave my reasons, but wasn’t banned. Wings says anything agin this new SNP’s views on GRA and the hounds of hell are unleashed.

      Stalinism writ large, but their lack of political knowledge betrays a juvenile mentality. The scary monster is that Sturgeon et al DO know all this history and are embracing it with enthusiasm.

      There-in lies the peril Wings has been warning about, I think. In this I agree with George Foulkes. They are doing it deliberately.

    20. auld highlander says:

      ‘Control the media and you control the mind.’

      One good reason not to watch tv news or read political pish from the press.

    21. Wee Chid says:

      You are mentioned on youtube today http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c3qV9rzSwY

    22. Russhobbs says:

      I found wings blog by chance when getting interested in the Fabiani enquiry , I have so far enjoyed most of the blogs so much I eagerly await the next instalments on a daily basis .
      So when Mrs Murrell says another hate statement against Alex Salmond and Alba ,I know The Rev will be all over it and dissect the innuendos and lies .
      Keep up the good work ,it has for me put a new perspective on the snp as a party that cannot be trusted .

    23. robertknight says:

      They don’t like it up ‘em Captain Stu, they don’t like it up ‘em!

    24. sarah says:

      Thank goodness you have “a few” readers, Rev, so the message that Craig Murray’s defence needs some funding will go a bit further than my own facebook can reach.

      I’ve just sent another small sum direct to Craig’s bank account. In case you are reading this, Craig, it isn’t a lot, I’m afraid – Alba has had a bit recently.

    25. Market Force says:

      Famous 15 says,

      “Vote SNP 1 and ALBA 2 so child molesters and Chicks with Dicks get access to female changing rooms and toilets.”

      “This will lead to women and young girls being sexually assaulted in places that were once women only spaces.”

      There, sorted that for you Famous 15.

      No need to thank me, it could have happened to anyone.

    26. Merganser says:

      Wendy@12.05

      From an Antipodean: And didn’t go yesterdie.

    27. SilverDarling says:

      SNP Towers want the image of Nicola Sturgeon to be that of the hard done by wee wummin who just wants the pandemic done and then she will lead us to the promised land. Working all the hours, a sleep-deprived martyr. Anything going against that image has to be shut down.

      The trouble with promoting her as toiling endlessly is that it should have an endpoint, otherwise, in the words of Hoyt Axton:

      Work your fingers to the bone – whadda ya get?
      ( Whoo-whoo ) Boney Fingers – Boney Fing-gers.

      I do like the way Alex Salmond seems to be messing with her head. If, as the New Yorker says, he can destroy her, he should do so ASAP after the election so that we can all get peace from her po-faced whining and posturing. I am so sick of her I have to turn the TV over. She has nothing new to say. It is all just insubstantial waffle.

      When asked recently if she had a shelf life, she apparently said ‘Yes- but I am young enough to do something else.’ She knows she will never achieve independence for Scotland. After-dinner speeches circuit and directorships with big pharma in the third world await.

    28. Ottomanboi says:

      Johnson & Mrs Murrell do agree on this topic.
      https://thecritic.co.uk/the-hypocrisy-of-the-northern-ireland-office/
      As independence is way down the priority list time to take at look at what candidates actually stand for. Check them out!
      Many have views you wouldn’t «touch» even with hand sanitizer.
      This is by no means a Scottish quandary. Europe is awash with second rate chancers striking messianic poses, partic. regarding «the young» and what we need.
      https://thecritic.co.uk/issues/may-2021/an-educational-dystopia/
      Oops, another of Mrs M’s fixations, going rancid. Scandi très noir…

      See Bill & Melinda are divorcing….life’s a real bitch!

    29. MaggieC says:

      Rev Stuart , Keep doing what you do and that’s telling “ the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth “

    30. James Che. says:

      They won’t touch or ban wings though stu because as you can see looking back over your post these last few weeks, the opposition, friends and employed of Westminster would have no access to verbally abuse anyone on the independence side in Scotland.
      Hate crime speech is ok on here if your unionist. They won’t take it down to quickly.
      They would miss you as much as we do, there’s two sides to every coin.

    31. MaggieC says:

      I see that the Scottish courts have published the dial-in details for Craig Murray’s case on Friday .
      .

      Supreme Courts Hearing Access

      High Court of Justiciary Case: Sentencing Hearing
      Petition and Complaint re Craig Murray
      Date: 7 May, 2021
      Time: 10:30am
      Dial (United Kingdom toll): +44-20-7660-8149
      Access code: 137 643 8712

    32. Market Force says:

      Silver Darling. 12.54pm

      Yes agree with your post.

      And Sturgeon wants to be the saviour of wronged women throughout the World as well.

      Especially the alphabet women.

      She has sworn to hunt down the perpetrator and, take him to court and let our justice system hopefully send him to prison for a long long time.

      Wait a minute Nicola, the guy went to court and was found not guilty by a jury.

      But she will carry on regardless and talk as if this guy was found guilty anyway, our thick as shit electorate will never notice the difference.

    33. Stoker says:

      Another nail on head article. I for one, despite the pathetic need for ‘likes’ by some on social media platforms, will *NEVER* stop promoting your work. I don’t need ‘likes’ so can’t be put off. The only person who will put me off WOS is you, Stuart.

      Plus, i know that many people will read the articles without giving any sign that they have due to fear of intimidation/bullying from others. Or a fear of being blacklisted or ignored by the bullying cowards.

      I have 2 go-to indy places (WOS & IndyPosterBoy)and i prioritise both way above *ANY* political party or person (outwith direct family). Keep up the great work, many of us would be lost without you.

      BTW, i’ve never seen Game of Thrones either but love that quote in your article. And another wee thing, Chancer Campbell of the SNP NEC fame has a nerve lecturing about “incompatibility”. He claims to be a “Rasta” but the Rasta religion is incompatible to the very concept of our civic nationalism he claims to support.

    34. Effigy says:

      SNP have adopted the Chewing The Fat TV
      shows strap line of-

      “Gonnae no dae that.
      Just Gonnae No”

      It saves time and thought process having to present
      any form of defence when accusations are made against you.

      The bent Lord Advocate could save us billions and empty the prisons
      if those accused can just adopt this line of defence.

      Criminals just need to declare they will have no contact with the courts as
      they are rank bad yins.

      How can their officials come on here in great numbers and not respond to
      any posts they feel misrepresents them?

      Unbelievable !

    35. Captain Yossarian says:

      Just to put it in context then….The Scotsman has a circulation of 16k in print and 140k on-line. So, at 235k, WoS is comfortably ahead of The Scotsman.

    36. Shocked says:

      You can tell just how much the SNP fear you Rev stu by the fact you are being inundated by SNP1 trolls desperately trying to undermine your message.

      Recently Nicola Sturgeon has looked very worried and careworn to me. It’s clear that all is not well and I think she is genuinely concerned that she may suffer an electoral reverse and perhaps even lose her seat. I believe the reason this concerns her the most is because if she is kicked out of politics then she will no longer have a bent Lord Advocate and crown office at her beck and call to protect her from criminal investigations. She stays in power she is safe, she loses power and the full weight of the criminal justice system will come crashing down on her and send her away for a long time. It is this concern that motivates the SNP1 lunatics like famous 15, they must do everything to protect the party leadership and Scotland must continue to have the knee of the New SNP on its neck. Party always comes first to these fanatics and Scotland and it’s people don’t even get a look in.

      As for people invoking what Salmond says to justify SNP1 because he is seen as some kind of tactical genius. Let’s not forget that Alex Salmond anointed Nicola Sturgeon as his successor in the full knowledge that she was a failed solicitor who was investigated for malpractice and only avoided being struck off by resigning from the profession. She’s been tainted goods since before she ever got into politics and should never have been allowed to stand as a candidate in the first place. Perhaps Alex thought her psychopathic tendencies and ability to lie without even blinking would come in useful but the end result is that she turned on him as if the truth be told she never saw him as anything but someone to exploit for her own aims. Salmond is now declaring that he could have finished her if he wanted, well he started her on this path and he should have done right by Scotland and revealed the full extent of her crimes so that we could be freed from her criminally corrupt grasp.

      The only option on Thursday is no votes SNP, if us informed voters do not take this stand then the sheep will ensure Sturgeon is returned and after that the game will be over. The stakes are that high; we stand on the edge of the precipice and we cannot allow Nicola Sturgeon and her troops like famous 15, breeks and the rest to drag us down with them.

    37. Lorna Campbell says:

      Alt-right? No, just not intellectually-challenged or a virtue signaller. The far left has been the cause of as many problems for ordinary people as the far right. In essence, there is little to choose between them.

      The far right is blinded by its adherence to the dark side, and the far left is so far up its own a-hole, it cannot see the light. Keep them girnin, Rev. It’s now the only thing that makes life worthwhile under this fascistic/totalitarian, morally-bankrupt system of global-sized self-regarding narcissism and virtue-signalling pomposity and empty rhetoric.

      They don’t give a flying whatsit for the wee folk, either set of posturing toom tabards: there are no kudos to be gained by defending the real downtrodden. Far better to defend the (already-existing rights) of the middle-class, educated elite youth whose lives are so empty that they need to self-ID into something they can never be in order to try and glean some measure of validation, while they hoover up well-paid sinecures. All the parties are at it. And, all the while, the lives of the ordinary folk just get worse all round.

    38. SilverDarling says:

      @Market Force 1.08 pm

      Probably it will be a UN affiliate that pretends to promote women but really is yet another stealth means for men to determine what is best for women. Maybe she will get to sit beside Hillary at the grown-ups table and fangirl about her to her face?

      An honour in her name, perhaps? The Nicola Sturgeon award for ‘Women who have helped men and held back women.’

      Stonewall may even make her an honorary ‘Queer’…!

    39. Southernbystander says:

      ‘Rev’ Campbell is a stoat-faced woodlouse.

      (Actually just realised a woodlouse is a crustacean, do they count?)

    40. Market Force says:

      Silver Darling 1.21

      Yes, very amusing, but very serious.

      Sturgeon is a danger to humanity.

      You should avoid Voting SNP if you are interested at all in saving your country.

    41. Karen says:

      Well, we are now into the land of the weird.

      Stu, you need to start up another party for Holyrood.
      For constituency seats.

      SNP purged from Holyrood along with their little helpers.

    42. Pixywine says:

      Wee chid. Watched the YouTube video. Ladies correct and hilarious.

    43. Mist001 says:

      Bit unfair on weasels, was it not?

    44. Paul Kelly says:

      I think there’s also a lot of yoons using your site for ways to debunk the SNP. Wings links have appeared sporadically

    45. Alf Baird says:

      Trowth bi telt – one of the best things the ALBA Party could do to promote independence (through re-invigorating and strengthening national consciousness and hence national identity among Scots) is arguably to get a Scots Language Act through Holyrood.

    46. SilverDarling says:

      @Market Force 1.32 pm

      Don’t worry. I cannot vote for the SNP despite Alex Salmond’s best efforts to be statesmanlike and see the bigger picture. It is wasted on someone like Nicola Sturgeon, she is not worth my vote.

      I’m just working out how best to spoil my constituency paper. I want my protest to be seen by the SNP at the count.

    47. Lost says:

      I got a temp Facebook ban for sharing something that was anti-facist, took the rip out of Nazis. Got told it was offensive. I can only assume offensive to facists.

      It’s seems the only way is up for Wings and visitor numbers. Which is good. I might not always agree with some of the content, but can be assured I’m in a room with adults who can debate without a pile on. Life is a bit more saner here!

    48. Republicofscotland says:

      Congrats to you Rev, its a mark of just how important your reporting of political events are. I think folk realise that you report the truth without fear or favour.

      We’d be in the dark without your factual articles.

      Councillor Graham Campbell calling Wings an Alt-Right Fascist platform, that comment says it all really as to what’s become of the SNP.

    49. Neil in Glasgow says:

      Question – and all questions of morality aside, I’m gaming here – no intention of voting SNP in the constituency and every of voting alba on the list. I’m in Glasgow provan, which last time had a healthy SNP majority of about 4000 odd I think. If I were to cast a constituency vote for one of the other partys purely because its not likely to have any impact on that vote, would this theoretically (as small as it might be) affect the unionist ratings in the list? And if yes, in Glasgow, who should that vote go to (if you follow)? Like I said, this is theoretical and I’ve only just thought about it but I suppose I’m asking who stands to really gain in Glasgow because of SNP list idiocy?

    50. Mark Boyle says:

      @Republicofscotland says: 4 May, 2021 at 1:47 pm

      Councillor Graham Campbell calling Wings an Alt-Right Fascist platform, that comment says it all really as to what’s become of the SNP.

      What did you expect from the likes of that? Said it before, will say it again, once Socialist Workers Party vermin, always Socialist Workers Party vermin – they never, ever change.

      They use the words “fascist”, “racist” and “Tory” in much the same way the Nazis used the word “Jew” against their opponents, and with much the same mindset apparent.

      (Come to that, I’ve never met an SWPer yet that didn’t have a “problem with Jews” either – despite all their ANL flag of convenience “Never Again!” bullshit whilst making excuses for some of the more genocidal regimes on the planet)

    51. Wullie B says:

      Will be the Wee Ginger Duggers analysing each and every comment made so that it can be used as ammo against you Stu, even though you have no control over what people post nor can you be policing the page 24/7.

      I can’t get over how the cult members accuse folk of abusing WGD here yet seldom is the site nor Paul mentioned in comments or articles yet you are the equivalent of the unholy trilogy.

      Hopefully one day in the future the SNP will become a credible vote for us in the future and you won’t need to give them the analysis you have done due to their lack of progress furthering independence yet can push crap through that affect 0.001% of the Scottish population, when independence affects 100% of us.

      Keep up the analysis Stu, whether it’s stuff we don’t feel we want to see or read about( I am using the we as for the yessers) and back to ripping the unionist press and parties to shreds again, it will happen one day when the lunatics are no longer running the asylum

    52. Johnny Martin says:

      Neil in Glasgow @ 1:48pm:

      No.

      The list vote can only be affected by constituency votes if you have won the constituency because only then does the constituency vote cause the divisor to come into play, i.e. it is only if you win a constituency that your list vote is divided before the list votes are tallied and list seats decided.

      Votes for losing constituency parties have no effect whatsoever on this process. In this sense, they are the only truly wasted votes in the election as they count towards nothing – but this is a gripe about the first past the post system generally, all votes not for the winner (and any votes for the winner past what they need to win, really) just go in the bin.

    53. Republicofscotland says:

      A bloody travesty in the making for Craig Murray, he needs donations give him what you can.

      https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2021/05/appeal-for-defence-funds/

    54. Neil in Glasgow says:

      Johnny, appreciate that explanation. Thank you.

    55. Big Jock says:

      I wonder how many SNP MPS and MSP’s make up that figure Stu. I suspect every one of them reads Wings , including the chief of Stasi the FM.

    56. Red says:

      Mark Boyle says: Come to that, I’ve never met an SWPer yet that didn’t have a “problem with Jews” either

      Seconded. SWP and its many guises is a weird sort of cult for antisocial personalities.

      The irony of Scottish people being told to wheesht by a carpetbagging racial entrepreneur from Islington will, of course, be lost on the New SNP.

    57. Republicofscotland says:

      Mark Boyle @1.53pm.

      Councillor Campbell, is hoping to get elected in Muirhouse (North Edinburgh) he resides in Glasgow. I pity the residents of Muirhouse if they see fit to elect him for I doubt he’ll be around much coming from Glasgow.

      Still the aim is to get ones nose in the trough.

      Tell me Mark, do you have a problem with socialism, or is just the SWP you dislike, and what’s your opinion on Jeremy Corbyn.

    58. LaingB French says:

      SNP 1, ALBA 2.

    59. chas says:

      It is wise to remember that Politicians, of all hues, are only interested in the ‘little’ people for one particular day only and that day is the one where you vote.
      The rest of the time they are solely focused on themselves and their ‘friends!’
      It may be best to vote for the individual or Party which promises you the least as that way you will not be disappointed.
      Sturgeon has spent the last 6/7 years building up her power base in the judiciary, the Civil Service, the police and surrounded herself by spineless, weak, incompetents in Government. She thinks that she is untouchable and answers to no one and as we have seen, especially lately, she is correct. The only people who can remove her and start the rebuild of Scotland are the electorate. However, given that approx 30% of all Scots are gullible and basically thick it is up to the other 70% to change things for the better.
      I understand the rational given to vote SNP 1 and Alba 2 but, to my mind, re-electing Sturgeon and her cabal for another 5 years is simply wasting time, with the added disadvantage of what further damage can she inflict. 5 years is a long time.
      Alba 2 is a given but on 1 I will vote for who I think has the best chance of ousting the SNP candidate.
      I do however respect that we have all have different reasons in our voting intentions but………. SNP and Greens-simply NO.

    60. true scot says:

      Republicofscotland – thanks, donated. Miscarriage of justice.

    61. Lyn Hay says:

      While Alex Salmond says to vote SNP now for the constituency, I don’t believe he has any intention of letting the Sturgeon Gang stay in place any longer than it will take the courts to dispose of them. The first step in that is to put Evans away, and the rest will follow.

      So holding your nose to vote SNP1 now is very much a short-term action, and the longer view includes Alba rising without the current constraints of Sturgeon or her gang.

    62. ‘that while they might not always want to hear what we say, it’ll always be the truth,’

      This, in a nut shell.

    63. Doug says:

      I wonder where Scotland’s independence movement would be without the internet.

    64. ScottieDog says:

      “ SNP1 Alba2 going viral methinks?”

      Really hope so.

      So sick of the cosy compliant indy press brigade. Time for the Ruth Wishart’s of this world to move into retirement. Had it been for her ilk we would never be talking about another referendum because we’d have never come close in the first.

    65. Republicofscotland says:

      Lyn Hay @2.16pm.

      I’m hoping that some SNP MSPs will jump ship to the ALBA party once elected. I think there’s more chance of them being reelected as an SNP MSP than there are as an ALBA candidate at the moment. so it would make sense to jump ship after the election is over.

      Furthermore I cannot understand why a woman SNP candidate who gets elected on May 6th would want to remain in a party that is hellbent, along with the Greens on destroying real women’s rights.

    66. Garrion says:

      Not to be petty, but could you please have some kind of comparison ticker btw Wings and Bella every day? Mebbe with a tiny Mike Small avatar looking sad/sadder depending on how completely irrelevant to the actual fight/debate for independence he continues to be.

      Remember when he launched a campaign on Bella to bring down Wings? I do. Arsehole.

    67. Red says:

      Lorna Campbell says:
      4 May, 2021 at 1:20 pm
      Alt-right? No, just not intellectually-challenged or a virtue signaller.

      I was really naive as a young person, and it took me a long time to catch on to the fact there’s basically two types of people.

      People who use words to communicate thoughts, emotions and ideas they want to share with you.

      And people who use words in the same way muggers brandish knives, as a weapon to help them take what they want from you.

      The cartoon version of Pinocchio was intended to warn us about this. But it was probably too traumatising (I still cringe when the little boy screams for his Mamma as he’s turned into a donkey) to make its point effectively to an audience of tots.

      It’d be a mistake to take anything Councillor Graham Campbell says as if it belongs in the former category of being a sincerely held opinion, expressed honestly. He’s a lazy grifter who wants you busily working in the salt mines to fund his parasitic lifestyle. Anything and everything he says is designed to facilitate his desire to earn money without having to do any actual work for it.

      If accusing people of being small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri helped rastamooch avoid having to get a proper job, his Twitter feed would be full of furious denunciations of tribble supremacy.

    68. Rob Brown says:

      Congratulations Stuart!

      But be careful because you’ve got a fantastic new competitor for eyeballs and influence:

      Jaggy.blog

      Seriously, your phenomenal success is an inspiration to defectors from MSM to the blogosphere like me.

    69. Lyn Hay says:

      For SNP MSPs to jump ship may not be necessary. If Sturgeon carries through her threat to whip all MSPs to oppose an independence motion, then there will be some who defy the whip. When that happened to clown Johnson he withdrew the whip, ie kicked them out of the parliamentary party.

      Would Sturgeon do that? Knowing that they had Alba to go to, rather than the dole queue?

      Whichever way that unfolds, many MSPs will be publicly validated in jumping ship at that point.

    70. Stuart MacKay says:

      If Carbon Offsetting is a good enough salve for people’s consciences when they get on a plane then Independence Offsetting can work for voting SNP 1, Alba2. Just put a few coins in Craig Murray’s collection box and you can go forth secure in the knowledge you are working for Scotland.

    71. Lefallois says:

      I read this blog for a laugh. I am a pro union Tory who will vote “abolish”. However, going by many of the comments here and on other pro independence echo chambers, I think I’m probably more in favour of your freedom to say what you think than most of the people in your own tribe.

    72. Republicofscotland says:

      The ALBA party fights back with regards to the BritNat state broadcaster aka the BBC.

      https://archive.is/3dpbl

    73. Angry Weegie says:

      As I’m now an ex-SNP member, I thought I would post this before I’m also subject to SNP action (they’re already monitoring my Twitter feed). Comments on the election campaign and a wee treat for those still undecided about their vote.
      https://angryweegie.wordpress.com/2021/05/04/independence-coming-soon/
      Happy voting!!!!! See you once the dust settles.

    74. lothianlad says:

      I rather suspect that there are a few squeaky bums in the SNP every time stu puts up another post.

      Alba is rising and the gravy train is being found out.
      Without wings, I reckon sturgeon could have got away with another 10 years of kicking Independence down the road.

      Now she is in full sabotage mode, and determined to lose support for Independence!

    75. Rob Brown says:

      Just to make it easier for you all to find my new blog (mentioned above), here’s the URL:

      https://jaggy.blog/

    76. Republicofscotland says:

      Take the free poll and vote for the Alba party.

      https://www.thenational.scot/news/19276712.reader-poll-think-holyrood-elections-may-6/

    77. john mckay says:

      SNP 1 / ALBA 2

    78. mountain shadow says:

      It will be interesting to see whether ALBA do much better than the polls are suggesting.

      Given the numbers viewing this site and this sites message to vote ALBA, maybe there will be a shock on Thursday.

    79. lothianlad says:

      “He’s a lazy grifter who wants you busily working in the salt mines to fund his parasitic lifestyle. Anything and everything he says is designed to facilitate his desire to earn money without having to do any actual work for it”.

      The same could be said of Owen Thomson MP for Midlothian!!

      And other lazy, Independence avoiding, gravy train careerists, who have deceived the voters and creamed the benefits!

    80. Billy Russell says:

      All the abuse you have to put up with, I do hope those figures lift your spirit when needed.
      That friend and foe come here in such numbers to read the truth certainly lifts my hopes for the future.

      My vote on Thursday is defo spoiled 1, ALBA 2. My apologies to Mr Salmond for not following his advice, but I just cannot bring myself to vote for the North British child abusers, even if they do SelfID as an indy party.

    81. Republicofscotland says:

      The Chief Executive at Stonewall is delighted that a creepy guy is now in charge of Edinburgh’s Rape Crisis centre. Women really need to shout out about this disgraceful appointment and the impinging on their hard fought for rights.

      https://twitter.com/Nancy_M_K/status/1389140785833156609

    82. Mark Boyle says:

      @Republicofscotland says: 4 May, 2021 at 2:08 pm

      Tell me Mark, do you have a problem with socialism, or is just the SWP you dislike

      I loathe and despise the Socialist Workers Party for their brownshirt brochialism, the poison they inject to society as a whole in legitimising bare faced thuggery as any form of “acceptable” political activity, and especially their wholesale tarnishing of socialism as a valid political belief by their activities to the point that to far too many people today it has now become an abhorrance.

      Whilst socialism, like liberalism, conservatism, nationalism, etc is never the preserve of any one party or group, the days when it was considered perfectly natural for – as an example – a Conservative MP (let alone any other) to hold views considered “socialist” on a given topic (eg. the NHS or housing) have been rendered impossible by the activities of the SWP.

      Their brute animal “us and them” world view, squadista tactics of no platforming and hijacking any nascent pressure groups they see as competition for malcontents has compromised too many who would otherwise be in full or partial agreement with socialists on many subjects, to the extent today too many now regard anyone that self-confesses to be a socialist into a proto-neanderthal longing for Orwellian dystopia just so long as it’s going to be their jackboot on everyone else’s neck.

      Much of this is down of course to the nature of the SWP beast as a network marketing machine in a constant state of fund raising for hobby politicians to make a nice career out of inflammatory activism.

      But its fascistic ‘Smash The (Insert Enemy Of The Week)!” line tars all socialists with the same mulish brush simply because they ALWAYS make sure they’re the most prominent at events – copying as they do the NF’s Martin Webster’s dictum to “smash our way into the headlines” to make up for their far fewer numbers. It’s something Tommy Sheridan needs to remember 24/7 to if he’s serious about making a political comeback – politicians are known by the company they keep.

      What was once held to be the “natural” politics for a devote Christian, Muslim or Jew (back in the days when most people followed some sort of faith, that is) who truly lived their faith, is likely to die out as even a rational option long before secularism relegates faith based belief systems. In my opinion, the marked decline of such world views has played a major role of creating our current selfish brutalised nation where we willing screw over our friends, neighbours and even family for just a glimpse of a piece of the cake – and the SWP have more than played their part in creating the conditions.

      That was a partly political broadcast on the behalf of the Terminally Pissed Off.

    83. Big Jock says:

      Lyn – I expect Salmond to be an MSP on Thursday.

      I think he will propose a bill to start negotiating independence. If Nicola tries to tell her MSPS to vote against this. She will have ended her career. Because the defections to Alba will see to that. What we have with Sturgeon at the moment is bluster and Bravado.

      I listened to Mr Torrance who set up Alba. He was very confident that Nicola would crumble after the election if Alba get elected and put the bill through. He knows something. Simply put Alex might just have something on Nicola which she doesn’t want disclosed.

      Mr Torrance advised behind the scenes most SNP MSPS , were backing Alba on the list.

      If Nicola has to resign, it will be due to her own stupidity and lack of diplomacy. I expect when faced with Salmond in the chamber she will shit her breeks!

    84. lothianlad says:

      Is there any update on when the Perjurers and conspirators will be brought to justice?

      Maybe after the election, the truth will come out!!

    85. lothianlad says:

      I suspect that after Thursday Alex will be an Alba MSP along with others and force the devolutionist FM to answer his questions!

      She will be bricking it and will eventually be exposed for what she really is!

    86. Stephen says:

      Alex will be constrained in what he can say.
      There is no “parliamentary privilege” in Holyrood as there is in Westminster.

    87. susanXX says:

      The quality of your articles attracts all sorts, including parasites like G Campbell. I say he’s a parasite because he lives off the taxpayer while believing and doing nothing to merit payment.

    88. Republicofscotland says:

      Mark Boyle @3.02pm.

      Mark.

      Thank you for your thoughts.

    89. John McNab says:

      Alf Baird says:
      4 May, 2021 at 1:43 pm
      Trowth bi telt – one of the best things the ALBA Party could do to promote independence (through re-invigorating and strengthening national consciousness and hence national identity among Scots) is arguably to get a Scots Language Act through Holyrood.

      You would think so Alf, but by adopting a name that doesn’t actually apply to the whole of what is currently recognised as Scotland, it implies a Gaelic nativist tendency that will most likely deter an intelligent, sophisticated electorate, which is what we have here, isn’t it?

    90. JGedd says:

      Many call supporters of the trans cult ‘progressive’ and therefore, left wing and many of them consider themselves to be so, too.

      In fact, ‘progressiveness’ has replaced left wing politics. It is now a melting pot of vaguely virtuous sentiment which has largely divested itself of any socialist pretensions of the past, following Blair’s New Labour. It has found a new cause, a simpler one, which leaves out the troublesome issues of society, particularly those of the working class.

      All those bothersome problems which require difficult solutions can be quietly dumped in favour of the new international cause of trans rights, an almost imaginary crusade of religious proportions and in this Manichean world it is easy to pick out friends and enemies – which appeals greatly to human nature, particularly that of the young and of course, politicians.

      The SNP has transformed itself from a social democratic party with the goal of Scottish independence into a party whose goal is simply to govern, using the crusading zeal of the authoritarian trans cult to maintain their dominance.

      The SNP actually needs to encourage the self-righteousness of their youthful militants and their hostility towards traditional SNP voters just as New Labour were hostile towards Old Labour. It’s almost as if Sturgeon had studied Blair’s tactics in reinventing a political party, just as he, in turn, had learned from Bob Hawke. You are defined as much by who your friends are, as by your enemies.

    91. Boudicca says:

      Lyn Hay, we have been thinking along those lines too. We wavered a while about spoiling our first vote, but will vote SNP 1, Alba 2. I just hope there is a good showing of Alba MSPs,, and think the plates may we’ll shift in HR after the election. Hopefully a lot will come out re Lesley Evans with a domino effect.

    92. Hatuey says:

      lol @ “Trowth bi telt”

      I’d probably be up for replacing Gaelic on road signs with that stuff… we’d at least get a laugh.

      The idea that we should all go back to living and speaking like early 18th century plebeians might have been taken seriously at one time… then Pol Pot tried it.

      Independence is about the bright future, not the murky past. You need to face the way you’re going, otherwise you just bump into things.

    93. Carol Neill says:

      One of my ALBA fence boards was spray painted , just one not both ?
      I’m taking it as a result , folk know what ALBA is about and running scared
      They didn’t damage my fence so there’s clearly a better class of vandal here ,lolz

    94. stuart mctavish says:

      As hilarious as it might be, its difficult to imagine SNP being so grossly criminally negligent as to turn a 50% constituency vote into zero votes for Alba whilst making a mockery of their own disdain for Boris’s facebook unfriendly poetry in the process.
      Accordingly, given Craig Murray’s predicament and the MeGrahi precedent, and assuming Alba is indeed rising, a pre-emptory pardon during hustings could pave the way for item 2 on the list next week (following the vote to revoke the act of union and negotiate terms) being a demand for full custody of Assange – including transfer of his hearing to a compassionate Scottish court..

    95. ahundredthidiot says:

      The Poll in The National has Alba on 48% of the Regional vote, compared to 33% for SNP – with over 7000 votes cast.

      Will The National pull the Poll??

    96. ahundredthidiot says:

      The Poll in The National has Alba on 48% of the Regional vote, compared to 33% for SNP – with over 7000 votes cast.

    97. Ottomanboi says:

      «John McNab»
      «an intelligent, sophisticated electorate» knows that Alba applies to the whole of Scotland, it is the Gaelic name for the country.
      Your divisive tactic, setting one language group against another, lacks subtlety.
      Scots/Scottis needs intelligent official promotion but not of your little knowledge sort.
      The Gaelic form of your monicker is Ian Mac an aba. Very Gaelic nativist.
      Truth be told is an English expression. Middle Scots has of/in verité/veritie or in treuth/truith not *trowth bi telt*.

    98. The Oui Coupar says:

      To spoil or not to spoil.
      Serious risk of the Tory getting in here if too many spoil.
      In the hierarchy of principle I’m back with SNP 1
      In recompense I commit to participating in post election Direct Action which should emerge to disrupt comfy agendas.

    99. Republicofscotland says:

      “The idea that we should all go back to living and speaking like early 18th century plebeians ”

      Hatuey @4.24pm.

      Its interesting that you use the word plebeian (lower class) when referring our native tongue, which in the case of Gaelic, it was beaten out Scots, and Scots laird were forced to have their children speak English over our native language.

      Most Scots today don’t even realise that their true culture and language and history has over time in this vile union been suppressed and slowly replaced by that of another country. Others think because we have our own kirk, laws, national football and rugby teams and parliament that we are not treated as a colony by England.

      We’re allowed these things because it gives the appearance that we are in control, we’re not, millions of pounds in assets are stripped from Scotland every day and head into the English Treasury’s coffers, but because of the set up ie, the UK, in which some people still think its an equal union they carry on as if its all normal and above board, this union isn’t, from the enforced Malt Tax, to the draining of Scotland’s assets its all wrong.

    100. Market Force says:

      “Vote SNP 1 and ALBA 2 so child molesters and Chicks with Dicks get access to female changing rooms and toilets.”

      “This will lead to women and young girls being sexually assaulted in places that were once women only spaces.”

      Sorted that for you dyed in the wool Sturgeonistas.

    101. Steve davison says:

      The SNP has a singular lack of tolerance for any that question it or it’s leaders mantra .expose them at your peril is the message and the general view from this site contributors is acknowledgment of the wrong in this
      Maybe it’s the frustration that Alba has arrived to late to effect proceedings of maybe it’s the thought of 5more years SNP mismanagement and lies but there is a lot of calling people out as Yoon,s or SNP moles for everyone who disagrees with people’s personnel views on how to vote .Your vote is your own read everyone’s opinion check your facts vote your circumstance and moral compass then be prepared to live with the decision as that is democracy .
      So despite my personnel baulking at any vote that endorsed Nicola and co good luck and let’s all debate rather than accuse and decry others opinions

    102. Red says:

      Hatuey says:
      4 May, 2021 at 4:24 pm
      lol @ “Trowth bi telt”

      I’d probably be up for replacing Gaelic on road signs with that stuff… we’d at least get a laugh.

      The idea that we should all go back to living and speaking like early 18th century plebeians might have been taken seriously at one time… then Pol Pot tried it.

      I see you haven’t been keeping up with the zero carbon agenda in general and the exciting plans XR have for us.

      lothianlad says:
      4 May, 2021 at 2:55 pm
      “He’s a lazy grifter who wants you busily working in the salt mines to fund his parasitic lifestyle. Anything and everything he says is designed to facilitate his desire to earn money without having to do any actual work for it”.

      The same could be said of Owen Thomson MP for Midlothian!!

      A man so lazy he won’t even shave his chins.

    103. Stuart says:

      Mark Boyle, very well said, it saddens alot of people what has happened to the “Party for the Workers”, which appears now to be just a “plaything” for disgruntled students and fantasists from an ever decreasing clique of pro-nouns with the HQ in “Middle class central” AKA North London.

      I’ve written on here with no discernable reaction (other than abuse from the usual suspects) there’s an irony in these people calling themselves “progressive”, in that it appears they want to destroy in main the things that make for a cohesive society and build a new one without the support of the people who would have naturally supported them, in their self appointed image.

      I know for some its a “bitter pill to swallow”, but your Independance movement in my opinion should take a dispassionate look at whatnhas been happening South of the border for a,few years now(without the usual evil Tories, racist, bigots and blaming the electorate shtick) and reflect on in the medium term how this could benefit your movement.

      May the 4th be with you.

    104. Mist001 says:

      If you install a fresh copy of Windows 10, it gives you the option to choose your language as ‘Scottish Gaelic’.

      Personally, I don’t give a shit about Gaelic, it’s a dead language as far as I’m concerned but Microsoft obviously hold it in high regard.

    105. Fishy Wullie says:

      Mist001 says:
      4 May, 2021 at 5:08 pm

      “If you install a fresh copy of Windows 10, it gives you the option to choose your language as ‘Scottish Gaelic’.

      Personally, I don’t give a shit about Gaelic, it’s a dead language as far as I’m concerned but Microsoft obviously hold it in high regard.”

      —————————————————————

      If you’ve ever tried understanding the numerous error messages flagged up in MS Windows it might as well be in Gaelic

    106. Republicofscotland says:

      Mist 001.

      Glasgow City Council is offering free Gaelic language lessons to all its staff, as there’s been a uplift of interest in the language. You might not give a shit but it appears others do.

    107. Mist001 says:

      @ Republicofscotland

      Yeah, that’ll be the ones that have tried to be smart and installed it on their PC and now can’t understand it!

    108. Mist001 says:

      @ Republicofscotland

      How am I wrong? You’re the one that can’t see a jokey off the cuff comment when it slaps you in the face!

      My son speak Latin and that’s a dead language too as far as I’m concerned, but he gets it at school, so there you go. If he ever meets someone who can speak Gaelic, they can both talk shite at each other!

    109. Charles Hodgson says:

      Craig Murray has written many good articles over the years.

      However, he is totally on board with the mysoginist gender bullshit.

      Also,a personal encounter on twitter, when he made the insane point that the UK leaving the EU caused the death of an English benefit claimant who apparently literally starved to death.

      When I and another individual responded that this was down to Tory benefit reforms, leaving people broke for months, he responded by calling both of us c*nts.

      I wish him no I’ll will, but I will NOT be contributing to his defence fund.

      He needs his self-important egotistical head looking at.

    110. Pogrom69 says:

      ‘ahundredthidiot says:
      4 May, 2021 at 4:38 pm
      The Poll in The National has Alba on 48% of the Regional vote, compared to 33% for SNP – with over 7000 votes cast.’

      A word of caution required on this poll as it looks like anybody can indicate their preference even if they’re not physically in Scotland.

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    112. Mist001 says:

      @ Charles Hodgson

      I read his site but I find him to be a very arrogant man, very full of himself.

      He’s popular on here though.

    113. Hatuey says:

      Republic, there isn’t a language in existence that has the sort of racial and historical purity you and Alf seem to long for. The English language itself reflects thousands (arguably millions) of years of adaptations as a consequence of invasions and various atrocities. They’re all the same in that regard. Should we unwind them all or just our exceptional one?

      Words are tools of expression. It’s what you do with them that matters. English is a fine and versatile language, as useful and beautiful as any other.

      Nobody should be made to feel inferior or victimised for using the English language.

    114. Doug says:

      The rise in the promotion and support of Gaelic language and culture in Ireland at the end of the 19th century and the start of the 20th definitely boosted the independence movement there, if only because it further distinguished the difference between the British and the Irish.

      Of course the majority of Irish people then as now use[d] English as their first language. Likewise people in Scotland but I see no harm in using Scottish Gaelic and Scots as useful tools to to further differentiate between Scotland and England.

      It’s aw guid tae me.

    115. David Lyon says:

      Charles Hodgson,

      Can you please link me to where Craig Murray called you a cunt?

    116. Kcor says:

      May the readers of Wings over Scotland make the difference between life and death of Scottish Women’s Rights and the cause for Scottish independence.

    117. Stephen says:

      David Lyon
      He’s clearly under a lot of pressure at the moment.
      Cut him a bit of slack.

    118. Skip_NC says:

      Is it possible that poll in the National will be used to convince SNP waverers that the SNP really, really needs their vote on the list?

    119. Charles Hodgson says:

      David Lyon

      It must be the Errol Graham case reported here from Jan 2020. Sorry, I could only find a Guardian link. If that was the earliest this was reported, then the twitter exchange must have been somewhere around that date.

      I got banned from Twitter at almost exactly that point for reasons they will not clarify (coincidence? I don’t know, but he was the one using the foul language. I may have responded in kind, I honestly cannot remember.)

      You could try checking his Twitter account around that date.

      https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/society/2020/jan/28/disabled-man-starved-to-death-after-dwp-stopped-his-benefits

    120. Stephen says:

      Sorry David.
      I should have addressed that to Charles Hodgson

    121. President Xiden says:

      Ah, that explains why fan pages of The Beatles or Buddy Holly and the Crickets are routinely removed by Faceborg.

    122. John McNab says:

      Ottomanboi at 4.42pm

      1. I didn’t write ‘trowth bi telt’ but additionally I didn’t try to present the Scots idiom as some sort of mish-mash of Middle English and French.

      2. I’m well aware of the Gaelic spelling of my name. I don’t use it, as I don’t have the Gaelic. Notwithstanding, some of my ancestors would have been Perthshire Gaelic speakers.

      3. You’re obviously not among the number of intelligent, sophisticated electors. ‘Alba’ does not refer to the entirety of Scotland, despite repeated claims to the contrary, ad nauseam. It refers to that part of Scotland roughly north and west of the Forth Valley, as formerly ruled over by the Albany Stuarts, hence that name.

      However, don’t stop posting on here. You’re a never ending source of amusement with your partly informed posturing and frothing. Night, night now.

    123. Doug says:

      @Skip_NC 5:53 pm

      “Is it possible that poll in the National will be used to convince SNP waverers that the SNP really, really needs their vote on the list?”

      Possible but not probable. If anything it would more likely provide the confidence for switherers to back Alba because so many are already doing so.

    124. Charles Hodgson says:

      Stephen
      Murray was not facing jail, or even charges, at that point.
      You get used to such crap from hardened remainers. Maybe he reported me if/when I called him a c*nt back? I don’t know, but he was clearly going off on one that day.

    125. Stuart MacKay says:

      Charles Hodgson

      It’s a tar-pit a lot of (small p) progressive minded people find themselves in. If you have principles based on fairness and justice then causes that claim to support fairness and justice will get your support. The ideological special sauce that gets added as part of the package means you don’t get to pick and choose. You take the lot or suffer ex-communication by the rest of the faithful.

      That’s why you always see claims of “being kind”. If you’re against “being kind” then a nasty person you must be. It takes quite a lot of cohones to stand up against that. Many have tried and many have seen themselves cast as bigots and shunned accordingly.

      Craig Murray is first and foremost a man of principle. It’s unfortunate that the lamb of justice got slaughtered and skinned and is now being worn by wolves.

    126. Thistle's Bristles says:

      Your visits are well-deserved in my view.

      The fact that so many read your pieces who are critiqued therein, is hilarious. But then, I gather Spitting Image used to be popular among those caricatured, who viewed ‘their’ appearance as somehow a mark of recognition to be desired, regardless of how they were lampooned.

      Twitter seems appropriately ‘bird-brained’ (as per popular usage. Birds actually accomplish an impressive amount within their diminutive crania. Consider their migrational navigation, puzzle-solving feats of corvids, accurate mimicry of heard sounds, etc. OK enough of that tangent, fascinating though it is.)

      I’m grateful, too, for the other Independence-supporting blogs you have made known to me through links and references here.

    127. twathater says:

      As most people on here will be aware the national has outed itself as a Sturgeon fan rag where the sainted one can do no wrong . It would be an insult to call it a newspaper , it deserves the same ignominious path to liquidation and destruction as the rest of the unionist rags

      I think that poll is being conducted in some attempt to reassure Sturgeon that she will be safe , and judging by the amount of morons admitting they will vote for sturgeon 1 and harvie 2 the lunatics are amongst us be afraid be very afraid

    128. Wee Chid says:

      Pixywine says:
      4 May, 2021 at 1:39 pm

      She’s great – I subscribe to her channel and watch her regularly. she doesn’t mince her words.

    129. James Che. says:

      Just met snp man leafleting while we were out leafleting for Alba, we got chatting about the vote and what the results might be of the election,
      He says we won’t know the votes until Friday, due to covid,
      I suggested that in elections such as this in this digital age it would be a good idea if there were cameras viewing the count as well as observers,
      He didn’t think this was a good idea, as he suggested people may be suspicious of cameras, I personally think the that the cameras would add to the observers in the building during the count, so less people think any cheating or manipulation of counts can be suspect,
      However he said “he would be there” that made me more worried not less, as I had got no help from him when I was homeless for a six year period , he made no effort to help, he did not investigate or try to find me a home as my local snp, and actually came down quoting council speil. Whom had caused the problem in the first instance, I had to do everything myself to gain a home, Trust is a little word that means so much to the poor and the vulnerable, and as a voter I do not forget that little word,
      That was when I began to realise their was disingenuous people in the snp pretending to act for the benifit and banner of snp, and of Scotland’s people and there were some that even admitted they were ex labour going, and would vote labour again.
      I have experienced this false snp in my own personal life, and although I try very hard to follow AS recommendations it’s very difficult to adhere to, never mind all the woke green malarkey that makes life more difficult for the average Scottish citizen along with the hate crime bill.
      However this has to be done, we have to get AS and Alba party into the Scottish Parliament as the political landscape and politicians must see massive changes for the betterment of the people whom live here,
      And I have no love for a unionist Westminster party running and ruining the Scottish Parliament and the countries resources as they have done in every other colonial suppressed country across the globe.

      That was before stu mentioned snp corruption.

    130. Republicofscotland says:

      “Nobody should be made to feel inferior or victimised for using the English language.”

      Hatuey.

      Its not about English, English I suppose is seen as the universal language that’s fair enough. The Chinese, the French, the Spanish etc, in most part teach English as a second language, they’ve kept their identity and history by teaching their own languages as primary. I’d like to see Gaelic taught as our primary language and English as a second language.

      One of the first steps in colonising a people is to destroy their language leaving the majority of the colony unable to speak their native tongue.

    131. Charles Hodgson says:

      Stuart McKay,
      You’re right. The road to hell is paved with good intentions “Being kind” has led the Scottish Govt (the whole Parliament, really) to the Hate Crime Act and Gender Recignition shit storm, and Christ knows what else, if they can cobble together a working majority with the Greens after Thursday.

      They don’t seem to show much kindness to anyone who disagrees with them though, quite the reverse. This may be a part of Murray’s psyche, where he is blinkered to non-woke opinions, and is convinced they are fuelled by hate.

      For clarity, Murray should not have been charged with anything, and most certainly should not have been found guilty. It is a travesty, and I wish him well.

    132. Republicofscotland says:

      ” If he ever meets someone who can speak Gaelic, they can both talk shite at each other!”

      Mist001.

      Its all tied together, the language the history its one big package, which has for centuries been suppressed, its a pity you can’t or don’t see it that way.

    133. TheSNPLeftMe says:

      Mist001@5:25pm

      It’s not the Latin..he get’s it from his dad

    134. Wee Chid says:

      Hatuey says:
      4 May, 2021 at 5:43 pm

      “Nobody should be made to feel inferior or victimised for using the English language.”

      Nobody should ne made to feel inferior for using Scots either – but we are and are told we are talking slang. It isn’t – it’s a .

      I gre up being made to feel like a 2nd class citizen because of my Scots language.

    135. Republicofscotland says:

      Charles Hodgson, if Craig Murray called you a c*unt, then I’m sure you deserved it. I’ve followed Murray’s blog for over a decade, he’s a very tolerant person who for years allowed all manner of 77th Brigade trolls to post their f*cked up points of views on his blog, it used to drive me and others crazy that he gave these b*stards a voice, but that’s the measure of the man.

      Only occasionally did he lose his rag, with real outrageous comments from the GCHQ, 77th Brigade, and believe it or not Hasbara trolls.

    136. Republicofscotland says:

      “I read his site but I find him to be a very arrogant man, very full of himself.”

      Mist001.

      Murray would need to go along way to be as full of it as you are.

    137. gullaneno4 says:

      All the dribs and drabs of the wee parties debating on the telly tonight before the big event.
      Might make interesting viewing.

    138. Alf Baird says:

      Republicofscotland @ 6:17 pm

      “One of the first steps in colonising a people is to destroy their language leaving the majority of the colony unable to speak their native tongue.”

      Yes, colonial powers seek to replace language and culture and with that our identity too. Culture and language is who we are and forms the basis of our identity. In our case it is primarily the untaught Scots language that gives most of us Scots our identity and culture (few Scots speak or know Gaelic). I assume Hatuey must think it is the English language that gives Scots their identity, but that would seem highly improbable, not least because colonial English language policy has always been intended to alter the national identity of colonial peoples to British.

      This article and the video link in it explains the significance of language and culture in forming our identity and national consciousness, without which there can be no motivation for national independence:

      https://yoursforscotlandcom.wordpress.com/2021/05/01/is-scottish-independence-decolonisation/

    139. robbo says:

      The National might regret that poll

      Alba doing ok. They’ll pull or say error in database I bet.

    140. Famous15 says:

      Market Force

      You are a cheating lying bastard. You put words in my mouth that I abhor and do not agree with.You quote a made up defaming disgusting view that speaks to your own perversion.

      In short you are a shite.

      I would ask Stu to delete your obvious defamation but I want people to see what a deeply flawed arsehole you really are.

      My long experience of detecting perverts indicate to me that you should be investigated for your own abuse and perversions.

      Go apply to Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre for a job. They just love your kind of pervert.

      NOw back on the real planet I will listen to Alba and not to mean bullies.

    141. bjsalba says:

      @robbo
      The national does not know its readership.

      Or perhaps it did not want to know.

      They do now.

      It remains to be seen whether they will change their tune or lose their subscribers.

    142. mike cassidy says:

      I wouldn’t have been reading English literature, because of the class barrier.
      “Why would you want to read things that were treating you as an animal? The Scottish voice was equated with being working class. If you weren’t working class, you would have lost it and assimilated to the bourgeois

      James Kelman

      https://archive.is/fLvOg

    143. Thomas says:

      @ john macnab 5.56pm

      Thats a load of rubbish about Alba not referring to the entirety of scotland.

      The entirety of scotland up to today is called Alba in gaidhlig , and a scot no matter where he comes from in scotland is called an albannach.

      Close to the castellan of Dunbar in south east scotland is a knoll called cnoc na h-aire , “the watch hill” in the old gaidhlig of lothian , and even in the high class of scottish society of the later 16th century ,we have letters of slains from old scottish/irish “slan ” meaning indemnity surviving in legal practice in the low lands from what was once a uniform gaelic speaking society across scotland.

      Despite all this guff “southern scotland wis english and alba only northern scotland “, to the native gaels they clearly perceive the whole of modern scotland as Alba , and make a clearly defined sharp distinction between a lowlander and an englishman. Prior to the 14th century , there was no distinction between a lowlander and highlander in scottish culture .

      In the entirety of scottish gaidhlig tradition all evidence points to the fact there is never any question of the integrity of Alba meaning modern scotland in full.

    144. Mia says:

      “It remains to be seen whether they will change their tune or lose their subscribers”

      Well, they lost this subscriber a while back when they decided to become a propaganda mouthpiece for trans (whatever that means) “rights” and Nicola Sturgeon.

      Even today if you look at the online front page of the “newspaper” all what you see is Nicola Sturgeon.

    145. Al-Stuart says:

      .
      Hi Stephen,

      You mention tha (hopefully) if Alex Salmond becomes an MSP next week he will be hobbled in what he can ask Nicola Scurgeon as he will have no parliamentary privilege.

      Aye, that is the case at Holyrood. For now. But Scots have a wee bit of ingenuity.

      It was a very smart move to use the Westminster parliamentary privilege recently when David Davis spit-roasted the Sturgeonite McWokeists…

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sLGEaA5HOs8

      The Alba Party now have TWO MPs in the Westminster Parliament. So we definitely have parliamentary privilege.

      Just not in our own parliament.

      Quelle surprise.

      In fact there are a whole host of Alba Party supporters at Westminster who regard Alex Salmond as a fine leader and excellent parliamentarian whatever political differences they may have.

      The political assassination attempt by First Banana Republic Minister Nicola Chimpansturgeon backfired in her Panda faced visog spectacularly. Many in Westminster were disgusted at what Alex and Moira were put through.

      This Thursday, after soul searching and out of conscience, I shall be voting…

      Constituency: SPOILED BALLOT ASKING WHERE THE £600,000 “YES” MONEY WENT.

      List: Alba Party X

      I am North East now, so it will be a VOTE FOR ALEX SALMOND DIRECTLY.

      Ya dancer.

      I was thinking of voting Labour on the constituency but they are riddled with liars and thieves. Also the WoS site village idiot hurled that much abuse I wouldn’t vote Labour again out of thrawn.

      Haven’t seen the SEVEN Fake IDs of the Village idiot and was able to read through all the Wings BTL comments and enjoy some interesting contributions about the actual topic.

      By the way…

      Congratulations Stuart. That is an awesome number of site visits.

      Lang may yet digital lum reek.

      ———————————-

      EARLIER QUOTE…

      Stephen says:
      4 May, 2021 at 3:21 pm
      Alex will be constrained in what he can say.
      There is no “parliamentary privilege” in Holyrood as there is in Westminster.

    146. Market Force says:

      “Vote SNP 1 and ALBA 2 so child molesters and Chicks with Dicks get access to female changing rooms and toilets.”

      “This will lead to women and young girls being sexually assaulted in places that were once women only spaces.”

      There, sorted that for you crazy, dyed in the wool Sturgeonistas.

      The Rev Stu says:-

      “So we’re making a plea from the heart. Spoil your constituency paper, readers. For children, for women, for gay people, for Scotland and for kindness”.

    147. Stephen says:

      Al-Stuart
      Agreed.
      David Davis spoke without fear or favour and there are others who would do the same across the house.
      I agree that a spoilt constituency ballot from people who would normally have voted SNP will send a message that the SNP leadership need to here.
      I know other people on this site disagree and that’s fine.
      Ultimately everyone will have to make their own decisions.

      Alba will inject a breath of fresh air and much needed change into Holyrood.

    148. shug says:

      SNP1 and Alba 2

      no brainer

    149. Angus F Macleod says:

      The WOS website deserves all the traffic it gets for factual, well-researched content. Pity the MSM doesn’t follow where WOS leads. Spoiled 1 Alba 2.

    150. Elmac says:

      Shug @ 7.59pm

      Sorry Shug but it depends who the SNP candidate in the constituency ballot is. If it is Sturgeon, Swinney. Robertson, Yousaf or a few other notable corrupt a*holes then no decent supporter of independence should vote for them. There is a line which should not be crossed when it comes to being able to live with yourself and voting for scum like that is crossing the line.

    151. Tommo says:

      This is probably not an original thought but its only just occurred to me;
      If-as this site strongly suggests is the case, and Alex Salmond clearly said was the case- the First Minister knew of/colluded in an attempt to have him put away (perhaps for life)-and she was his closest political ‘friend’-then it may be seen as noble on his part to bury the hatchet. Perhaps more importantly however to ask Scots to vote her back into power-knowing what he says he knows-rather than to ‘destroy her’- is surely to suggest that ‘hey so she heads up a criminal cartel-nobody’s perfect-doesn’t make you a bad person’
      What a bag of nails
      And yes I am for the Union

    152. Republicofscotland says:

      alf @6.49pm.

      Alf.

      I agree with your comment to a certain extent, in my opinion Auld Scots is a dialect of English, it can in most part be understood by someone who speaks English. However Gaelic is a language that cannot be understood by someone who speaks English.

      The reason there’s only around 50,000 speakers of our Gaelic language is our educational systems thinks that its not an important language, how wrong they are our language is linked to our history.

      The FM of Wales puts Sturgeon to shame as I’ve witnessed him speak to the Welsh people in their native Welsh language. He at least realises the importance of their language.

    153. Al-Stuart says:

      .
      TROLL ALERT – TROLL ALERT

      EUGENE HENDERSON

      This ABUSIVE TROLL DERAILS EVERY ARTICLE posted on Wings Over Scotland.

      Folk have difficulty reading fair and honest posts BTL as the Troll bates them.

      His worst is when he advocated GANG RAPING OF WOMEN

      So meet the latest incarnation SOCK PUPPET account…

      Eugene Henderson…

      Also known as the following dishonest fake names…

      Hudson/Rock/kcoR/Gordon/Andy/Labour4Indy/PatrickJones etc.

      The fingerprint of this clumsy Troll giveaway is his literary fingerprint: the ignorant use of three commas,,,

      That alerts you to this Troll’s increasingly inflammatory and insulting posts. His usual identity leakage is when he calls many regular decent people on Wings PEDOS.

      If you doubt Eugene ahenderson is a Troll, just wait 5 minutes and see his meltdown at being outed again with his latest SOCK PUPPET account.

      This is a very nasty piece of work. At least you now know the latest name for him.

      ——————————–

      ORIGINAL POST…

      Eugene Henderson says:
      3 May, 2021 at 7:22 pm
      Tam the Bam. 7.01

      The man with no balls and no spine.

      The SNP keyboard warrior Freak.

      Still waiting on you facing up to the Rev.

      I’m an easy target Thomas,,,the Rev is a different kettle of fish.

      Not a peep from you regarding the Rev telling you NOT to vote SNP.

      Is the Rev also a Labour member?

    154. Famous15 says:

      Market Force

      You lie and cheat and your narrow view of the world makes Pete Wishart appear mature and sensible.

      I have worked all my adult life for independence and a clown like you will not divert me. I hate what has happened within the SNP but still I will follow the advice of Alba members.

      SNP1 Alba2

    155. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Al-Stuart.

      No point in outing him here. Use the “Contact” button up at the top of the page. I know from experience that Rev Stu pays attention to the contacts, rather than comments on the page.

    156. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Wee Chid.

      That video is the first “speech only” video of 36 mins that I have watched all the way through in ages.

      She didn’t pull punches and, as you pointed out, much of her info was from WOS. Well worth a watch and linking to on social media.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c3qV9rzSwY

    157. Meg merrilees says:

      Just done the National Poll :

      Constituency vote SNP 90% ( all other main parties in low single figures)
      List vote: 49% Alba 34% SNP

      Which leader has impressed you the most : NS 46%; AS 43%.

      Do you want an SNP majority 46% or Supermajority with SNP/ Alba/Greens 43%

      Coalition – who do you want? SNP/Green 38%; SNP /Alba 31%; SNP /Alba/Green 25%

      Looking dire for the other main parties and really encouraging for Alex.

    158. true scot says:

      All this talk of resurrecting gaelic – as if people want to turn the clock back a few hundred years and start again free from the oppressors hand etc. It’s a fact that wherever english has taken root it erodes and often destroys indiginous languages. That is with or without laws preventing the use of other languages. It’s because it is generally so straightforwared (in spite of it’s quirks) and is gender neutral, which – along with vast fleets of warships – promoted it’s growth.
      It’s done. Move on and build fresh.
      If young minds have room to learn a second language, make it one that will be useful for doing business with future trading partners – France, Spain, Germany etc Lets not waste educational resources on an extension of the road sign vanity project or put words nobody knows onto our emergency services vehicles.

    159. Lothianlad says:

      Regarding Gaelic, we already have an international language.. its called english. What we need is to save our own languages, namely Scots and Gaelic.

      Language is a cultures heart. Music us its heartbeat. It’s what defines us and makes us, all of us unique.

    160. Republicofscotland says:

      “Lets not waste educational resources on an extension of the road sign vanity project or put words nobody knows onto our emergency services vehicles.”

      True Scot.

      You confirm my point, you are a 100% product of the union, you’re utterly oblivious to the importance of our language, vanity doesn’t come into it. I bet you’re going to vote for the Alba party on the list. Alba is the Scottish-Gaelic name for Scotland.

    161. Stephen says:

      Gaelic should be taught in schools.
      I don’t speak it but it is a beautiful sounding language whether it is spoken or sung.
      It has been inextricably linked to our landscape and ways of life for generations.
      To lose it would be a crying shame.

    162. Confused says:

      snatches from the telly debate –

      income tax rates : stupid controversy #234 – shit people get worked up about, while missing the point bigtime …

      income is – the change in wealth; so, why do we tax the change in wealth, but not the wealth itself?

      answer : no wealth tax must ever be put into the public mind as a solution to anything

      curious fact : “income” as originally intended was about the unearned wealth of landowners, who parasitically sucked the profit from everyone elses labour

      but “income” was NOT “wages” – which were what a working man earned and needed to live on

      so, originally, the income tax was a wealth tax – DOH!

      and VAT was something to do with Napoleon, but he’s been out the picture for a while.

      In any case, even slightly wealthy people do not pay income tax; you get yourself incorporateed and put it all through the company, with all the tax breaks and write-offs; tax is only paid on profits, so just make sure you don’t make any (- make harmless paper losses). This is the ordinary basic fiddling that any small businessman knows. Up the level we can hide our assets within a complex and opaque corporate structure (like Tony Blair) – up again, we have the numerous tax havens, and at the highest level, you turn all your assets over to a charitable trust (charities do not pay tax) so that technically you “own nothing” but, in fact, control untold billions; like the Rockefellers, e.g. and a recently example was the Gates Foundation – Bill would have had a brammer of a capital gains tax bill if he ever sold those Microsoft shares to cash out.

      Some 20 years ago, when the Guardian was still an approximation of a newspaper, they did an -investigation- (people called “journalists” did these) into the tax havens; they figured there was at least, even then $3trillion offshore, and not a penny of tax paid on it. The UK and the City are at the heart of this.

      willie rennie is like a character from “still game”; he is like a rambling caller on the radio clyde phone in – agitated, straining to make his point, but never with any coherent result

    163. lumilumi says:

      Thank gods, old and new, for Wings.

      How long till you’ll be “disappeared”?

      I don’t know where the WoS servers are, but Iceland seems a good place.

    164. true scot says:

      Republicofscotland – we all speak english though, and we are all a product of this union – it pre-dates us all. I don’t see the benefit in the 21st century of spreading the use of Gaelic as opposed to focusing on modern business focused languages in School. I studied english/scottish/american literature at edinburgh uni (what was I thinking?) which came packaged with a delightful course called English Language. We looked at various aspect of the language, including the way it often works like a virus, supplanting the native tongue – so I do know how corrosive english can be where it takes root. However it just seems retrograde to want to resurrect Gaelic.

    165. Republicofscotland says:

      true Scot.

      As I said further up the thread.

      Its not about English, English I suppose is seen as the universal language that’s fair enough. The Chinese, the French, the Spanish etc, in most part teach English as a second language, they’ve kept their identity and history by teaching their own languages as primary. I’d like to see Gaelic taught as our primary language and English as a second language.

      Our language and our history go hand in hand.

    166. Craig Murray says:

      Charles Hodgson,

      I am sorry if I swore at you, I seldom lose my temper and that would be unusual.

      But I am sure you have misremembered. I certainly did not argue that the chap starved to death (which I recall well) was due to Brexit and not to Tory welfare cuts. Indeed Brexit had not yet taken effect.

    167. Cadogan Enright says:

      If Stu is doing so well, why is he not positively arguing for Alba rather than monologing for the whole election on the same old subject?

    168. Alf Baird says:

      Republicofscotland @ 8:15 pm

      “I agree with your comment to a certain extent, in my opinion Auld Scots is a dialect of English,”

      Your opinion is wrong.

      According to Catherine Macafee of King’s College, Aberdeen, in the preface to Dr. David Purves’ ‘A Scots Grammar’:

      Scots….is an ancient language, with a venerable literary tradition, and as such it possesses both a wide geographical range of dialects, from Shetland to the Borders, and from Donegal to Fife, and a literary register somewhat independent from the spoken language.” In addition, Scots language is considered to be “peculiarly susceptible to English influence in the area of grammar.”

      Purves also noted that: “The loss of prestige of Scots is a…direct consequence of Scotland’s loss of political independence”. He makes the point that Portuguese, Dutch and certain Scandinavian languages would likewise now be considered ‘merely another dialect’ if these countries had lost their political independence, which they were at risk of doing at various times in the past.

    169. Cadogan Enright says:

      235,865 unique visitors?

      That’s 865 people and 235,000 Yoongene Henderson aliases

    170. Johnny says:

      The National poll is meaningless with no scientific validity and very little to tell us about the likely election outcome.

      They’re just trying to get website visits.

    171. Andy Ellis says:

      @true scot

      Leaving aside for the moment appeals based on history/culture/not wanting minority languages to die out, what is about Gaelic that triggers so many folk? Gaelic’s decline has always seemed tragic to me: the extinction of any language like the extinction of an animal species should be something we should try to avoid surely? Anglophones lucked out that English has become the default global language: it makes us lazy and entitled.

      I’ve been following the Scottish Gaelic course on Duolingo. Celtic languages are it has to be said kinda hard, but I’ve really enjoyed learning and hope to do more. I love the sound of the language.

      In my view we can and should help promote Gaelic. Saying that promoting a living language with a millenium long history is retrograde sounds kinda colonialist really, doesn’t it? Plenty of languages have relatively small numbers of native speakers: how tragic it would be if such diversity disappeared because everyone concentrated solely on the utilitarian or “business useful” languages.

    172. wull says:

      Congratulations to Wings.

      If wings can have elbows, more power to them!

    173. Hatuey says:

      Republic, you can’t unravel 300 years of history, however much you might want to.

      Human history is a sea of violence and trauma that stuff like language and what you call culture washes around on like flotsam and jetsam; it’s unfathomable luck that stuff washes up on one generation’s shore and not that of another.

      Many of the darkest chapters in history actually involve attempts to right the perceived wrongs of the past when it comes to that sort of thing. I mentioned Pol Pot earlier as an example but there are many others.

      If there’s one thing that competes with religion in terms of the misery and suffering it has caused on this planet, it’s culture.

    174. Dorothy Devine says:

      If the print media had not been given shedloads of money by the SG would it have survived?

      It disturbs me that the SG thought it a good investment. What persuaded them? What advantage did it give them?

    175. Sir Fortescue Wankworthy says:

      I say,

      A fine quote from Sun Tzu springs to mind,

      “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”.

      Now good day to you.

    176. wull says:

      Well said, Craig Murray. That’s big of you. Thank you for all the good you do. I wish you the best possible outcome for Friday.

      Injustice must always be outed, and cannot and should not be tolerated in a free country, or a civilised society. Even more so, I am sure every sane person would agree, if it is instigated or perpetrated by the courts.

    177. Republicofscotland says:

      Alf @9.30pm.

      Fair enough Alf, I’d still prefer Gaelic to be our primary language, I think the Scottish government has made some, if not much progress in this area in the last few years.

    178. McDuff says:

      True Scot aye right

      I don’t speak Gaelic but I value it as part of out history and culture. But you think Gaelic should be buried as it is a product of the past, but why stop there, get rid of tartan, and as for the bagpipes which is another ancient symbol of Scotland`s culture, ditch them too.
      Now when you get rid of all that what do you have, ah yes, England. That would make you happy.

    179. Stephen says:

      Culture is that which binds us together in groups.
      It evolves over time with the group it is associated with.
      But it is more than this I think.
      Culture IS the group.
      Language is the most important part of an individual culture as it is the groups unique way of communicating
      Culture/language is thus at root what it means to be in a group and to belong to a group and the groups practical outworking.

    180. Andy Ellis says:

      @Hatuey 9.50pm

      Step away from the revolver bud…

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanns_Johst

    181. ahundredthidiot says:

      I think Cadogen Enright is Ruth Wishart

    182. ian murray says:

      I believe in Ireland, Gaelic is a compulsory course and that you can not graduate from High School, if you do not pass Gaelic.
      Personally I think it would be “nice” if Scotland helped save a language. I am more excited about the rewilding program that will see the European Lynx re introduced into Scotland also a shout out the the wild cat recovery program which has a long way to go.

    183. Derek says:

      @Mark Boyle says:
      4 May, 2021 at 12:03 pm

      They believe beneath the white there is a red skin suffering from centuries of taming.

      (Gets coat …)

      Very good. I’m sorry to be late to this; I had cartrouble…

    184. Robert Graham says:

      And I think Dr Jim on the doging site is Princess Nicola the sheer hatred of Alba and Alex Salmond drips from every snide remark and all through the comments , the only thing that keeps them warm is the thought of ALBA crashing and burning , not unionists just ALBA .

      Well done ladies we know you read Wings over Scotland because you lot have fk all else to do .

    185. true scot says:

      Hi Andy Ellis – yes, you’re right – it is a bit of a trigger.
      I agree – English makes people lazy, but I’ve worked for the last 20 years to make myself fluent in French – or at least fluent-ish. It was like a lightbulb coming on in my brain the first time I used french outside the class room and I got hooked. So I am hugely in favour of second languages.

      But with Gaelic it feels like this artificial attempt to create a sense of otherness within our borders – looking inwards and to the past.

      Independence must focus on the economy – on the road map to being a succesful and prosperous nation as soon as feasibly possible after a Yes vote. I don’t think Gaelic should be part of that debate at all – and I suppose, that’s my issue with it – it’s all tied in with Independence as an identity, rather than as a vehicle to unleash our economic potential.

      There’s only a finite number of subjects that can be taught in school – and yes, I agree that Gaelic can be part of that syllabus – but what Scotland needs is more young people able to speak European languages as that will help trade. But the focus should be on modern languages.

      And what can I say – I drove past an ambulance parked outside a house in my street last winter – I could only tell it was an ambulance from the shape – because all I could read was (and I took a picture) ‘Ambaileans Eiginn / Serbheis Ambaileans na h-Alba’. There was no Englsh visible at all. Now if you can take a step back and perhaps see that that’s going a step too far – you may understand why people get annoyed.

    186. MacCumhail says:

      Sturgeon actually personally told people not to read Wings?

      Deary me, that is pathetic.

    187. lumilumi says:

      What I’ve been able to see of the campaign (MSM, BBC, STV clips, alternative media podcasts,YouTube clips, tiktoks, whatever.)

      I don’t usually comment on people’s looks – we all look like what we do, no beauties, it’s usually not much our fault – but this election, the two extravagant “Vote for me” Nicola busses have old pictures, when she wasn’t looking as rough as nowadays.

      She has put herself (and the old picture) front and centre of her campaign.

      Not a campaign for the SNP, not a campaign for Scottish independence. A campaign for her political career.

      The SNP feels spent and tired, uninspring. Their leader looks unfriendly, strict, controlling, like her narrow lips that never genuinely smile.

      Nowadays trowels of make-up, trying to make the fake eyelashes seem “now” or “fashionable”, hide the bags – hey, it’s better to not put on any makeup and own the bags! #beentheredonethat.

      Fifty-something women do not look like inexperienced 20 or 30 something women, who seem to be directing Nicola’s policy.

      The pinched smile, eyes always seeking somewhere else… Looking uncomfortable.

      Contrast that to Alex Salmond, jowls and all. He’s smiling, he’s loving the campaign, positively excited about the election. He’s all fired up, and all Alba candidates are all fired up. Happy, smiling, ready. Something Ms Sturgeon denied, now is not the time or some such.

      That’s the energy Scottish independence needs! Not pinched lips and futilely asking time and again. After seemingly having given up Scottish sovereignty to Westminster. Nicola Sturgeon is an idiot.

      Oh, and a much lighter shade of lipstick would work better. Pillar box red is aggressive and provocative. A Prime Minister (First Minister) should perhaps be less confrontational. Also, a softer shade would probably work better with the narrow lips, if you care about looks.

    188. JGedd says:

      I’ve heard it said, that the difference between a dialect and a language, is an army and a navy.

    189. Thistle's Bristles says:

      Re Wings being banned briefly for calling Patrick Harvie ‘a weasel’, I wonder if you might have got away with the adjective ‘weaselly’, or the verb ‘to weasel’?

      After all, it seems clear to me that he DID weasel out of answering that woman phone-in caller’s direct question asking him to state what a woman is, as a prime example.

      I wonder if there are restrictions on calling someone ‘a mole’.. or ‘a plant’?

    190. MacCumhail says:

      True Scot

      I am always puzzled by the argument you make. If you learn another language make it something useful.

      Why do people here think you can only learn one other language? It’s really laughable. When I went to Brussels a few years back the girl who served me a baguette in a cafe spoke 5 languages and believe me she was not unique in that regard.

    191. ElGordo says:

      @RevStu

      May the 4th be with you.

    192. Mist001 says:

      I mentioned that my 13 year old son speaks Latin earlier. As well as being fluent in that, he’s also fluent in French, English, German and Greek.

      Five languages and he’s only 13.

      A lot of kids his age in Scotland can barely speak one.

    193. Graf Midgehunter says:

      You can tell there’s an election coming up that’s not going the way the Brit Nats have enjoyed for the last 20 years.

      True, they’re not in power, but thanks to the D’Hondt voting system they still get loads of well-paid seat-warmers from the few remaining supporters that they have. They like the system because it guarantees them MSPs for a minimum of effort.

      The problem for them now, is that suddenly, a few weeks before the next HR election, a new Indy minded kid on the block has turned up and he most certainly isn’t a friend of theirs..! 🙂

      Au contraire! Instead of their “Friends” at the SNP reliably gifting them huge masses of wasted votes, they now have a situation whereby the new kid – ALBA/AS – can actually turn “wasted” votes into a weapon, which threatens to decimate the comfortable Brit Nat. presence in HR. Hence the massive barrage of Brit Nat. attacks on MSM/social media and in particular WOS.

      It’s not the SNP (Brothers in Arms) that bothers them, it’s ALBA/AS. The only really Independence orientated party in Scotland. FULL STOP.

      Their next problem is that they can’t get a proper grip on ALBA/AS, they’re too new, albeit moving forward quickly, with very good evolving policies which leave very few open flanks for attack. ALBA/AS is going directly for the “wasted” SNP list votes, SNP-1 / ALBA-2.

      This leaves the Brit Nats. with no other choice but to do everything they can to suppress the SNP-1 constit. vote which in consequence activates more potential votes for SNP list candidates and that means less chances for ALBA/AS to win seats.

      Now, if there’s anybody here who believes that the Brit Nat. trolls on here have suddenly found a heart for trans issues, protecting women’s spaces, hate crime, etc. then I’m afraid you’re insanely naïve. They’re deflecting.

      They in reality don’t give a flying penguin about women’s causes or any of the above, that’s just a welcome, convenient metaphor for attacking, suppressing the SNP-1 vote. That’s also why they’re flooding WOS with contrived concern trolls praising the Rev. (New trolls coming on training courses..!) Nobody’s buying the cheap crap that they’re peddling.

      They’re also utterly devoid of any meaningful policies to attract people to their side.

      The only thing that really, really interests the Brit Nats, aka Sarwar’s nodding donkeys is saving the gravy-train seats of their bosses in HR. This and nothing else has terrified them into action. They are losers looking forward to losing seats.

      So for ALL ALBA supporters, everything has to do with tactics.

      We all know how bad NS and the rest of the SNP pack is, but “metaphorically speaking”, to kill off the Hydra you have to have some POWER. If you’re not in HR with some MSPs, then you’re just toothless bystanders moaning an’ groaning for the next few years.

      Your vote is a weapon – use it.

      By all means, vote out the top 4-5 of the SNP cabal if you want to, as for the rest we’ll get them on the run when ALBA/AS gets into HR.

      Why on earth do you think AS, the best Scottish politician of the last 20 years and Independence supporter par excellence says SNP-1. / ALBA-2.? I don’t know if he and the other fine people in ALBA play chess but they do seem to have put the fear of God into the Brit Nats.

      For short term pain, you get long term gain.

      (How are the REV’S teeth getting on BTW..!) 🙂

    194. ahundredthidiot says:

      Mist 001

      at least you can speak two languages.

      English……and Pish.

    195. Hatuey says:

      Andy, when I hear it, I reach for my wallet… not gun.

    196. boris says:

      https://caltonjock.com/2021/05/04/scottish-fisherfolk-betrayed-yet-again-by-the-unionist-parties-will-they-never-learn/

      UK Environment Secretary Michael Gove had been expected to publish the white paper on the fisheries policy for leaving the EU in December last year but has yet to do so. A leaked draft commits the UK Government to consult the Scottish Government on fisheries decisions with Mr Gove retaining the final say.

      Banffshire and Buchan Coast MSP Stewart Stevenson, SNP, said the paper was evidence the Conservatives still regarded Scottish fishing as expendable.

      “The Tories’ White Paper utterly fails to deliver the control over our waters and who catches fish in them that was promised in the Brexit referendum,” he said. “It confirms the Tories want to keep control in London so they can again trade away our fishermen’s rights as part of their Brexit negotiations – as they have already begun to do.

      “It’s even worse than taking fishing powers away from Scotland for seven years as threatened in the UK Withdrawal Bill. This is a bid to permanently remove control over fishing from Scotland’s fishermen.

      “The Tories infamously described Scotland’s fishing industry as ‘expendable’ on our way into the EU – this proves beyond all doubt they plan to do the same on the way out.”

    197. crazycat says:

      @ Republicofscotland at 8.15

      The FM of Wales puts Sturgeon to shame as I’ve witnessed him speak to the Welsh people in their native Welsh language.
      He at least realises the importance of their language.

      Here’s what Mark Drakeford had to say about Welsh in 2018:

      MD: Well, we have a commitment to create a million Welsh-speakers by 2050. I’m a Welsh speaker myself so I’m very keen that we do support the language and to make sure that we do reach that target.

      That essentially involves a lot more investment in Welsh-medium education, so we’re able to meet the demand for young people going through school in Welsh – but it also means creating more opportunities outside school for people to use the language.

      I was brought up in West Wales so I grew up hearing it spoken around me all the time – but I was of that generation where my mother spoke Welsh as her first language, so did my grandparents, but they only ever spoke English to me because if you wanted to get on, you had to speak English. Mercifully, we’ve turned the corner on that as a culture, but while I’m very lucky because I work in the Assembly where Welsh is around you all the time. Like any language, using it is essential – but it’s not as easy for a lot of people.

      You can learn Welsh and never have a chance to use it if you’re not in the right context. The Assembly is a genuinely bilingual institution and that’s an enormous help in improving and maintaining fluency. We need to make that kind of environment more available.

      (Courtesy of https://skwawkbox.org/2018/10/26/exclusive-first-of-two-part-interview-with-welsh-labour-leadership-hopeful-mark-drakeford/)

      His predecessor Carwyn Jones was brought up as a Welsh speaker. Nearly 30% of the population speaks (or claims to speak) Welsh, so the situation is rather different from here. It’s also compulsory in schools and must be taken at GCSE level. (Plus it’s a brilliant language, in my opinion.)

    198. Jontoscot21 says:

      STV scotland Tonight reveals the piss-poor quality of Scottish journalists. The aptly named Shona Craven of the National. thought it was a great policy discussion. FFS. No discussion of the two
      Most significant and divisive of policies HCB and GRA. Given that its godmother and godfather
      were on hand. Total cop out.

    199. ElGordo says:

      @Mist001 says: 4 May, 2021 at 10:43 pm

      I mentioned that my 13 year old son speaks Latin earlier. As well as being fluent in that, he’s also fluent in French, English, German and Greek.

      Five languages and he’s only 13.

      A lot of kids his age in Scotland can barely speak one.

      –>
      Wow, that’s impressive, do you speak all of those languages too? There must have been an inspiration somewhere along the way? Particularly the latin..

      Good to see a dad proud of his sons linguistic achievements, it doesn’t always need to be about sporting, academic or social achievement.

    200. Hatuey says:

      ian murray says:
      4 May, 2021 at 10:10 pm
      “I am more excited about the rewilding program that will see the European Lynx re introduced into Scotland also a shout out the the wild cat recovery program which has a long way to go.”

      Well said. And the difference between trying to right that sort of wrong and trying to make us all speak Gaelic or Angus Og is that we would have a good chance of success.

      But why do these people that are into Gaelic and “culture” need to corral us all into going along with them and insist that we waste millions of pounds on their hobby?

      Fuck all that. If you want to learn a dead language, go do so. You have my blessing. Don’t expect us to pay you to do it or revolve the already failing education system around it.

    201. robbo says:

      Hatuey says:
      4 May, 2021 at 11:02 pm
      ian murray says:
      4 May, 2021 at 10:10 pm
      “I am more excited about the rewilding program that will see the European Lynx re introduced into Scotland also a shout out the the wild cat recovery program which has a long way to go.”

      Well said. And the difference between trying to right that sort of wrong and trying to make us all speak Gaelic or Angus Og is that we would have a good chance of success.

      But why do these people that are into Gaelic and “culture” need to corral us all into going along with them and insist that we waste millions of pounds on their hobby?

      Fuck all that. If you want to learn a dead language, go do so. You have my blessing. Don’t expect us to pay you to do it or revolve the already failing education system around it.

      ————

      Jesus ,Mary and Joseph and Liz g’s wee donkey!

      You want to introduce the Lynx but are against our own ancient language getting some sort of level playing field and taut in our schools ?

      Do you think a Lynx understands language- hey you bad Lynx don’t eat my kid who’s just went for an adventure into the woods with his pals?
      Holy suffering!

    202. lumilumi says:

      Mist001 says:
      4 May, 2021 at 10:43 pm

      I mentioned that my 13 year old son speaks Latin earlier. As well as being fluent in that, he’s also fluent in French, English, German and Greek.

      Five languages and he’s only 13.

      A lot of kids his age in Scotland can barely speak one.

      Away with your language snobbery. Or altogether snobbery.

      Everybody speaks at least one language perfectly and fluently. It might not be the proscribed language of the dominant culture or the elite, but every Scot speaks Scots perfectly well. If you do not understand them, it’s not their fault, it’s yours.

      I only speak three languages fluently, two not so well, read a bit a couple more. Am I a better person? Am I a worse person because my own language is a weird, small, non-Indo-European language? Vitustako sä tiiät, senkin ääliö!

      (Well, I think I’m a bit better than any English speaker who doesn’t know any other language – I know your language, you don’t know mine, ha ha, so that gives me an advantage. But let’s not get snobby about our, or our offspring’s language abilities.)

    203. lumilumi says:

      Hatuey says:
      4 May, 2021 at 11:02 pm

      Gaelic is not a dead language, but people like you are doing their best to kill it.

      Happy?

    204. Mark Boyle says:

      @Mist001 says: 4 May, 2021 at 10:43 pm

      I mentioned that my 13 year old son speaks Latin earlier. As well as being fluent in that, he’s also fluent in French, English, German and Greek.

      Five languages and he’s only 13.

      A lot of kids his age in Scotland can barely speak one.

      And now you know why they used to teach so much Latin.

      Private and grammar schools didn’t used to put so much store in it just to be poncy. It was because if you had a good grasp of Latin, learning other European languages was much easier, as it was tbe skeleton they were build around.

      If he’s fluent in German and Latin, he can learn Dutch for the fun of it any old time he pleases.

    205. Cadogan Enright says:

      All my kids went to Gaelic-medium schools and they are fluent in 3, 4 and in one case 5 languages

      2 of them went to Uni in France – in French – in Economics business and finance

      There is no doubt that kids who attend Gaelic and Welsh language schools in Scotland, Wales and Ireland tend to outperform their peers in English language only schools.

      And official stats back all this up

      Also, European countries that have bi lingual or tri lingual schools tend to outperform mono lingual education systems

    206. Red says:


      boris says:
      4 May, 2021 at 10:52 pm
      https://caltonjock.com/2021/05/04/scottish-fisherfolk-betrayed-yet-again-by-the-unionist-parties-will-they-never-learn/

      UK Environment Secretary Michael Gove had been expected to publish the white paper on the fisheries policy for leaving the EU in December last year but has yet to do so. A leaked draft commits the UK Government to consult the Scottish Government on fisheries decisions with Mr Gove retaining the final say.

      At least it’s not arguing about Gaelic 🙂

      Banffshire and Buchan Coast MSP Stewart Stevenson, SNP, said the paper was evidence the Conservatives still regarded Scottish fishing as expendable

      This seems to be true. The SNP also regards Scottish fisheries as expendable, since they support the Common Fisheries Policy (with the old trick of promising to “reform” it). As Mr Jock says, the sector is sewn up between a handful of rich families, who reap most of the profits from their fishy cartel.

      As Mr Jock doesn’t say, Scots are increasingly locked out of even getting the crumbs. A very large percentage of deck hands are foreigners, because they’re cheap and biddable (so easy to keep the staff in line if their visas depend on pleasing you) and the very last thing Scottish employers want to do is pay the sort of money that would attract and retain Scottish people.

      And it gets worse – deckhands are usually legal migrant workers, so at least they have that going for them. The fish factories in the northeast are notorious for employing illegal immigrants, and have been for decades now. It’s not like there’s a shortage of unemployed people in Fraserburgh either, it’s just the usual naked greed and breathtaking sense of entitlement of business owners. Like the “entrepreneurs” crying last year about how they couldn’t possibly find Scots skilled enough to sweep floors or pull pints. Maybe Pol Pot was radicalised by bumping into the Scottish Chambers of Commerce.

      So fishing is another one of our fabulous natural resources that isn’t benefiting ordinary Scots, and nobody in the political establishment gives a monkey’s except when it comes to pointing at each other like that Spiderman meme.

      Mibbe, and I’m just thinking wild, crazy and potentially socialist thoughts here, we should want a system that makes Scotland work for the broadest practicable range of Scottish people, especially young people trying to find their place in life, instead of a handful of sociopathic millionaires and their indentured scab workforce.

    207. manandboy says:

      The Tory Party and the Scottish National Party share a common goal in this Election on May 6th.

      That shared goal is to STOP SNP VOTERS from voting ALBA in the REGIONAL LIST.

      The obvious conclusion must be that both these parties FEAR the consequences of a SUPERMAJORITY.

      Furthermore, it appears that the last thing the SNP want at this time, is INDEPENDENCE.

      BY SHOWING SCOTLAND THAT ALBA MEANS BUSINESS AND A MUCH SHORTER PATH TO INDEPENDENCE,
      ALBA POSES A SERIOUS & IMMEDIATE THREAT TO THE UNION.

      Hence the SNP1&2 campaign by the SNP and the Tory support for the same campaign. The SNP & Tories in a new love-in.
      Who’d have believed it?

      Draw your own conclusions, but one thing is for sure:

      ALBA IS THE REAL DEAL

      And the SNP and the TORIES both know it.

      NO WONDER IT IS BEING SUPPRESSED BY THE BBC, AND OTHERS.

    208. Red says:

      lumilumi says: Am I a worse person because my own language is a weird, small, non-Indo-European language? Vitustako sä tiiät, senkin ääliö!

      Yes, and you should apologise for the Moomins and/or beating Eddie the Eagle in the 1988 Winter Olympics.

    209. Sheepshagger says:

      Red
      on fish quotas, in response to the financial crash of 07/08 Iceland gave every citizen a daily fish quota of 750kg.
      At the stroke of a pen every citizen can avail of a natural resource or sell their slice of it.

    210. INDEPENDENT says:

      FFSake
      Can we get back on topic.
      The appetite for truth by The Rev.
      For me it’s going to be SNP 1 nose held constituency
      ALBA 2 List
      C’mon Alba and AS

    211. Thistle's Bristles says:

      Hi Rev Stu,

      in light of your undoubted wide and numerous readership as evidenced above, have you received any response to your open letter to the Scottish Rainbow Greens of 28th April?

      It would seem surely worth their while to address the matter, since it now has been given massive free publicity, and they have been seen to be openly invited by you to reply.

      https://wingsoverscotland.com/an-open-letter-to-the-rainbow-greens/

      ..Other than contumely, vituperation, and coprologous insults,
      I mean. Anything cogent and worth publishing for comment?

      Notably, any answer to your one question posed – the number of genders they [want us all to] recognise?

    212. Hatuey says:

      “You want to introduce the Lynx but are against our own ancient language getting some sort of level playing field and taut in our schools ?”

      Robbo, I point blank refuse to believe, no matter how hard you try to convince me, that you can be that stupid…

      The difference, as I said, and it’s important, is that re-introducing animals that once thrived here has a high likelihood of success.

      On the other hand, attempting to resuscitate Gaelic or any other dying language is almost certain to fail. In actual fact it has failed, despite the many millions thrown at it.

      I’m with the other 99.99999% of Scottish people that don’t care about Gaelic. And I don’t want to see kids taught what I consider slang in schools. Sturgeon’s schools are struggling as it is under the weight of all her gender crap and other failings.

    213. Gordon Gekko says:

      Fools,

      Alba party give me a break they are just as bad as the SNP.

      No idea whatsoever about economics.

      The Alba manifesto is just as bad as the Growth Comission.

      Full of neoliberal globalist shite !

      The truth ?

      Dream on I fell out with them all months before wings ever did and told the Common Weal and Bella and the wee ginger dug that the Indy movement will turn Scotland Blue over time.

      The lies about brexit when an Indy party should have supported it.

      The lies about how the monetary system works.

      Not understanding what true independence means.

      It’s over and you only have yourselves to blame. Those liberals that infested the SNP that masquerade at left wingers.

      Couldn’t run f all.

    214. true scot says:

      Cadogan Enright – that’s interesting. Having seen it first hand, why do you think children at Gaelic and Wlsh schools do so well?

    215. ahundredthidiot says:

      I think in terms of internet versus identity permission, perhaps having a childs face displayed (probably without said permission) is not something we should be promoting.

      Respect the fact I am on a last warning – but I will take the heave for this, if needs be.

    216. Hatuey says:

      Cadogan, “There is no doubt that kids who attend Gaelic and Welsh language schools in Scotland, Wales and Ireland tend to outperform their peers in English language only schools.

      And official stats back all this up”

      Official stats back up a lot of things.

      Official stats show that kids that go to private schools out-perform non private schools.

      Official stats show that kids from poor backgrounds do much less well than kids from more prosperous backgrounds…

      Official stats tell us that hungry kids do much less well than kids who eat well…

      Official stats tell us that the children of concert pianists do better than the children of parents who aren’t concert pianists…

      None of those are arguments for anything. And neither is what you say. I was a teacher in a previous life — take my word for it, there’s a lot of factors involved, the most significant being social class, background, and the role of parents generally.

    217. Derek says:

      lumilumi says:
      4 May, 2021 at 11:14 pm

      (Well, I think I’m a bit better than any English speaker who doesn’t know any other language – I know your language, you don’t know mine, ha ha, so that gives me an advantage. But let’s not get snobby about our, or our offspring’s language abilities.)

      Finnish is the one that I’ve failed to grips with! I know how to ask for various things but can’t answer the responding questions.

      I even know some of the grammar for ordering plural beers…! (and – for Zywiec – in Polish, too…)

    218. Derek says:

      (apologies)

      *get to grips with

    219. Gordon Gekko says:

      Alba manifesto

      ” We cannot have Scandinavian-quality services with low rates of tax. ”

      LOL hilarious ! Of course you can considering taxes don’t fund government spending.

      ” The money which would be raised by tinkering with the available income tax powers is just nothing like enough for the tasks ahead. ”

      Horse shit, bull shit in fact.

      ” To unlock this, we need Scotland’s new National Investment Bank to be given the ability to capitalise from global markets, so we must demand this power from Westminster to finance a recovery from COVID-19 of a scale required to meet the scale of the post pandemic economic shock. ”

      Comedy gold and no understanding whatsoever how treasuries, central banks and commercial banks interact. National investment bank is just deficit spending nothing more nothing less. The wizard of OZ with 16 extra curtains so the commercial banks can take their wedge.

      I will post the link to explain it not that any truth seekers on here will understand it. Professor Lasers from the Common weal another idiot nearly puked when he saw and finally worked out what a white elephant the SNIB was after working for years on it.

      http://neweconomicperspectives.org/2015/09/corbynomics-101-its-the-deficit-stupid.html

    220. Market Force says:

      “Vote SNP 1 and ALBA 2 so child molesters and Chicks with Dicks get access to female changing rooms and toilets.”

      “This will lead to women and young girls being sexually assaulted in places that were once women only spaces.”

      There, sorted that for you crazy, dyed in the wool Sturgeonistas..

      The Rev Stu says:-

      “So we’re making a plea from the heart. Spoil your constituency paper, readers. For children, for women, for gay people, for Scotland and for kindness”.

    221. Gordon Gekko says:

      The land tax is the only thing that makes half sense in the Alba manifesto even then they will implement it wrong.

      It is a manifesto of nonsense another love letter to the economic rent seekers and the banking sector.

      Who will do very well out of it indeed.

    222. Hatuey says:

      Gekko, stop. You tried to convince us before that you were some sort of financial high-roller and made a complete idiot of yourself.

      To address your silly point here, you can use deficit spending, borrowing, money derived from selling Government bonds, etc., to invest, stimulate the economy, and increase the tax base.

      Actually nearly every government does so, whether that’s the intention or not.

    223. Freya says:

      Lothianlad says:
      4 May, 2021 at 8:47 pm
      Regarding Gaelic, we already have an international language. It’s called English. What we need is to save our own languages, namely Scots and Gaelic.

      Language is a cultures heart. Music is its heartbeat. It’s what defines us and makes us, all of us unique.

      Well said!! I have three Spanish friends living in Glasgow who are already fluent in Scottish Gaelic, one of them currently doing a PGDE in Gaelic in order to teach it at secondary schools. I am still at A2 (post-beginners) level myself, but slowly getting better in grammar. I can hold a short conversation and I can sing my favourite song by Niteworks. Step by step…

    224. Cadogan Enright says:

      National has a great image of Alba projecting its logo on the BBC at Pacific quay https://www.thenational.scot/news/19276911.alba-project-message-onto-bbc-scotland-building-censorship-row/

      @true scot 12.04
      If you google “benefits of bilingual education scholarly articles” you will get more than 2 million experts writing on the subject with lots of pithy summaries that describe our family’s experience

      Or try “What are the benefits of bilingual education?” In a sea of English in the UK, Gaelic and Welsh speaking schools end up with bi-lingual kids without trying as English is gleaned from the TV and everyday living

    225. Gordon Gekko says:

      Heart of Europe

      Will go down in Scottish folklore as the biggest mistake since keep the £.

      And turn Scotland Tory over time. Blue will start seeping across the map year on year because you never had a clue what you were doing.

      It’s simply staggering Stu never attacked the SNP on the tax payer myth or the deficit myth or the national debt myth. Force them to say taxes do not fund government spending.

      Was it ignorance or to busy fighting over a squirrel wether it was a man or a woman ?

      By forcing the SNP to tell the truth on those issues instead of backing down on them for whatever reason.

      1. There would have been NO neoliberal globalist growth commission ever printed.

      2. NO ridiculous Alba and SNP manifesto riddled with myths.

      3. The Tory party would have been finished because their economic policies 100% rely on those myths.

      Yet, here we are a complete and utter shambles.

    226. Stainless Steel says:

      I have not had any contact from Alba since I joined many weeks ago.

      I thought I might have got leaflets or other election material, but nothing.

      Is this normal, or have they by passed me?

      Curious.

    227. If Craig Murray is jailed on trumped up charges then the end of Scottish Law is inevitable. Criminals come in all shapes and sizes. They are easily spotted and Identified. They are ONLY independent from Government not the People and the People will have the Lawful right to remove these Traitors. Contempt of Court is not a crime on ANY Statute Book!

    228. Al-Stuart says:

      .
      Good evening Graf.

      Thankyou for an interesting read.

      There are actually some points that are so fundamental and positive, that I wonder if Stuart Campbell might consider a dedicated page for…

      “The Best Bits of Wings BTL?”

      Just by way of example Graf, I’d select a couple of the best paragraphs from these gems you posted earlier so that IF genuine Indy-Curious people appear here on Wings or other social media, we have an established paragraph to give them a link to.

      Which two of these would you include?

      QUOTE

      1). The only thing that really, really interests the Brit Nats, aka Sarwar’s nodding donkeys is saving the gravy-train seats of their bosses in HR. This and nothing else has terrified them into action. They are losers looking forward to losing seats.

      So for ALL ALBA supporters, everything has to do with tactics.

      2). We all know how bad NS and the rest of the SNP pack is, but “metaphorically speaking”, to kill off the Hydra you have to have some POWER. If you’re not in HR with some MSPs, then you’re just toothless bystanders moaning an’ groaning for the next few years.

      Your vote is a weapon – use it.

      3). By all means, vote out the top 4-5 of the SNP cabal if you want to, as for the rest we’ll get them on the run when ALBA/AS gets into HR.

      4). Why on earth do you think AS, the best Scottish politician of the last 20 years and Independence supporter par excellence says SNP-1. / ALBA-2.? I don’t know if he and the other fine people in ALBA play chess but they do seem to have put the fear of God into the Brit Nats.

      For short term pain, you get long term gain.

      5). They in reality don’t give a flying penguin about women’s causes or any of the above, that’s just a welcome, convenient metaphor for attacking, suppressing the SNP-1 vote. That’s also why they’re flooding WOS with contrived concern trolls praising the Rev. (New trolls coming on training courses..!) Nobody’s buying the cheap crap that they’re peddling.

      END QUOTE

      It just seems an idea to have a resource with answers at the ready.

      Thank you Graf 🙂

    229. Cadogan Enright says:

      @Stainless Steel 12.31

      did you give Alba your right email address? I get communications several times a week

    230. Graf Midgehunter says:

      Sarwars nodding donkeys have thrown another couple of wet fish into their desperate attempt to stop ALBA decimating the Brit Nat seat-warmers in HR.

      Welcome Gordon the newt and Market Force to “Heartbreak Hill” before they get dumped by their bosses cos their pish didn’t work… Oh dear.. 🙂

    231. Gordon Gekko says:

      You’ll get it one day but by then it will be too late.

      The space between your ears is why a true Indy will never happen.

      You’ve blown it big time by infighting instead of forcing the SNP to tell the truth.

      If Scotland turns blue over time as I predict. Look in the mirror of your TuesdaY’s who is to blame.

      Breaks my heart….

    232. Gordon Gekko says:

      Hatuey,

      LOL!

      Dearie me…

      Idiot.

    233. Graf Midgehunter says:

      Al-Stuart

      I wasn’t actually expecting anyone to even answer my post as I just wanted to motivate folk for the last 24 hours of the ALBA “campaign” and open some eyes to the bulls**t being spread.

      It’s very nice of you to ask for my opinion but I think people should judge what I wrote for themselves. 🙂 Thanks..!

    234. Stainless Steel says:

      Graf Midgehunter. 12 53

      I think you’re paranoid shite should be aimed at the Rev.

      Rev Stu says,

      “So we’re making a plea from the heart. Spoil your constituency paper, readers. For children, for women, for gay people, for Scotland and for kindness”.

      What say you Graf?

      Or have you not got the guts to tell the Rev exactly what you think?

      Are you a sturgeon troll?

      Your answer will be fascinating.

    235. Stainless Steel says:

      Graf says,

      “Vote SNP 1 and ALBA 2 so child molesters and Chicks with Dicks get access to female changing rooms and toilets.”

      “This will lead to women and young girls being sexually assaulted in places that were once women only spaces.”

    236. Gordon Gekko says:

      Myths regarding sovereign wealth funds.

      That’s been known for years…

      http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=28913

      And you would vote for that shite ?

      Worse than voting for the growth commission.

      Government borrowing increases the tax base !!!!!!

      Ha,ha,ha, Heuty you are a,prize mug.

      All those people holding UK gilts in a saving account at the BOE and all those Chinese holding treasuries at the FED in the billions increased the tax base.?

      Idiot.

      Government borrowing is a reserve drain ( monetary policy ) not fiscal policy. So the central bank can but it’s overnight interest rate. Now they just mainly pay interest on reserve balances.

      Next you’ll be telling me increasing interest rates fights inflation ?

      Won’t you ?

    237. Market Force says:

      Stainless

      If people cut out the paranoid shit, we might actually begin to make some head way.

      But this shite that every body who is not a Sturgeonista must be a troll is getting us nowhere.

      It is childish shite

    238. Market Force says:

      Graf

      WTF did you drag my name into your immature shite for.

      Please keep me out of the sad Bastard world you inhabit

    239. Market Force says:

      You SNP types have got that nasty Unionist streak running through you all.

      It’s not my fault your hero us a freak.

    240. Stainless Steel says:

      Graf mudge

      Take your paranoid shite Over to the National letters pages, they just lap all that paranoid shite right up.

      No one wants to hear your childish pish.

      Fuckin grow up

    241. Gordon Gekko says:

      Numpties..

      Breaks my heart…

      What a chance we had to win as well.

      Long gone all that we’ll ever get is a,faux independence if We are lucky. A fake version of what could have been run by Brussels.

      Because Indy think tanks fell asleep at the wheel and Stu chickened out at holding the SNP to account about what taxes are really for.

      It would make ya greet.

      Truth seekers Dinnae make me laugh.

    242. Stainless Steel says:

      Wings had be quiet all night, until the six year old Graf throws in his Troll post.

      Come back when you’re seven Graf.

    243. Stainless Steel says:

      All you SNP types, Sturgeon has no intention of giving you your indyRef2.

      How thick do you have to be before it sinks in she has been conning you all.

    244. Stainless Steel says:

      Can at least one of you SNP 1 Voters tell me when Sturgeon is planning on holding this Independence referendum?

    245. Market Force says:

      Stainless,

      I’ll tell you when Sturgeon is going to hold indyRef2, NEVER.

    246. Graf Midgehunter says:

      🙂 🙂 🙂

      Night, night wee donkeys. Enjoy yer night shift and stop chewing the pencils…

    247. Market Force says:

      Graf Midgehunter

      Will you kindly refraim from involving me in your childish immature conspiracy theories.

    248. Market Force says:

      Graf Midgehunter

      Can I ask you, do you believe in the moon landings?

    249. Graham says:

      @revstu

      Readers still seek out Wings in their hundreds of thousands, … because they know that while they might not always want to hear what we say, it’ll always be the truth, and backed up as ever by linked sources.

      Right then, let’s have some evidence for your apparently baseless assertions on the reasons for people reading your blog. I’ve told you before; just because I read doesn’t mean I believe or agree with you. If you can’t get over your ego to understand that then consider; do you only ever read things you agree with and believe in?

      Great numbers, fine work, but yet again; stop telling us (and yourself) these self gratifying lies.

    250. Graham says:

      Just to give you a hint; the last Gordon Dangerfield post was 18th March. Revstu posts often multiple times every day. Hmmm let’s think… could that maybe be an example of why WOS experiences so much more hits in April than Gordon Dangerfield?!!

      Furthermore, Gordon’s posts are literarily exquisite, he constructs his argument professionally and exhaustively; a joy for the rational academic thinker to read, but probably a bit wordy and intensive for the average punter. Revstu posts in simple language and argues like a irritated cunt in tabloid style, resorting frequently to the ad hominem. Of course more people in Scotland read that.

    251. Willie says:

      I truly wonder what fate awaits Nicola Sturgeon after tomorrow’s vote.

      She is seriously damaged goods. Exposed as a vicious mendacious liar through the Salmond enquiry her faux COVID stage show halo has now faded too, and folks see her for what she is.

      And they don’t like what they see one bit. Indeed, talking to people it is clear that there is huge dissatisfaction with the SNP to the extent that I believe this election will be the political death of Nicola Sturgeon and her perverted coterie of control.

      When dyed in the wool SNP voters say that they can no longer vote SNP and would vote against the party then you know that something is wrong, seriously wrong. And you know what, the utter arrogance and corruption of the SNP hierarchy is such that kicking them out is the only action that will make things change. Voting for the SNP in its current form will only reinforce people like a Sturgeon, Smyth and all of the rest of the perverted shit show.

      So, come tomorrow I suspect there will be a huge backlash against Sturgeon, Swinney and others within the coterie of control.

      Thankfully, and despite the vile censorship of the BBC and the Electoral Commission, Alba will I believe take a big haul of seats to replace the leadership casualties. And in that, the injection of sound solid experienced politicians committed to Scotland under will be the absolute rejuvenation tonic that our Parliament needs.

    252. Wee Chid says:

      Willie says:
      5 May, 2021 at 6:08 am

      I’m just not seeing that here in the south. Every SNP and most indy supporters I know are still punting the “both votes SNP” line and are still convinced “she has a plan”.
      I feel like alone voice howling in the wind.

    253. Wee Chid says:

      Hatuey says:
      5 May, 2021 at 12:00 am
      Are you suggesting that Scots is slang? then your education has been, sadly, neglected.
      Scots is a language. Was Burns writing in slang?

    254. Shocked says:

      @willie

      If Nicola sturgeon was going to lose her seat I’d say a considerable jail term would be coming down the pipe to her…

      However, thanks to the mindless sheep who don’t know any better and the vicious New SNP fanatics, some who post on here, she will be returned to power with a near majority. She will do a deal with the greens who will be used as a deflector shield to justify her woke campaign that will continue the cancellation of non-men, the end of freedom of speech and the imposition of a radical trans agenda. The corruption in government will get worse and she will get away with her crimes and we will all suffer. Public services will continue to suffer, more children will leave school unable to read and write and 5 years of stagnation and disaster awaits. Well done people. If you don’t believe me take a look at the fact the SNP controlled Edinburgh council is removing all women’s public toilets and replacing them with gender neutral toilets, that’s just the beginning and this shit will be rolled out across the country.

      As for Alba, they might scrape 2 or 3 seats, Alex Salmond himself and maybe A N other. The Alba campaign has been a disaster, too late to the game, badly organised and failing to appeal to anyone outside the real hardcore Yes support and shying away from going for the New SNP and Sturgeon jugular. As they haven’t attacked the New SNP leadership and exposed the truth to the sheep they haven’t given enough people a reason to move away from the New SNP. This will be an unpopular view but I couldn’t not care less, as with me having principles that I will stick to no matter what anyone says I will also not shy away from telling people the truth because without truth we have nothing.

      I’ve supported Alex Salmond a long time but he is not infallible, he chose Sturgeon as his successor when all the warning signs were there and he knew all about her failings and she turned on him. Anyone could have told him she would have done that. His comments the other day that he could have finished her and chose not to will also not go down well with people, if he genuinely believes in doing the best for the country he should have exposed her. I also think if he had done that and shown just how rotten the New SNP was it would have helped Alba enormously and they would have picked up more SNP voters. A lot of SNP support is centred on “oor Nicola”, expose her as a lying corrupt criminal and these people would abandon her as that support is quite soft.

    255. Pixywine says:

      To all Gaeluc speakers. I knew a murderer who was a native Galic speaker and there are many other Gaeluc speakers who like most of us don’t do much with our lives so fucking get over yourselves.

    256. TheSNPLeftMe says:

      It’s looking good! Shocked is usually badly wrong with his spin so it must be double figures for ALBA.

    257. TheSNPLeftMe says:

      @ Pixywine

      Who was he then?
      A simple question and easily answered!

    258. Shocked says:

      @SNPleftme

      Why do you care, you’re one of the worst pro sturgeon apologists on here.

    259. Luigi says:

      My goodness. That was some shift the resident troll(s) put in last night. Clearly rattled if the language and insults are anything to go by. Well too late for me trolls, my postal vote went off ages ago:
      SNP 1 Alba 2

    260. Shocked says:

      And while you’re at its SNpleftme sturgeonite point out where I’m wrong.

      Sturgeon is going to be returned, she will do a deal with the greens, I don’t think Alba will hold the balance of power and I think salmond has made a tactical mistake.

      One thing about polls is they are skewed because the people they ask are politically engaged, the man in the street isn’t and therefore the nuances and tactics that salmond talks about will have gone straight over their heads. The message needs to be simple to cut through and I don’t think it has, asking people to vote for someone who we all know is a liar because of some mystery tactic that will be exposed at a later date won’t work in the space of 2 or 3 weeks.

      It should have been don’t vote for Nicola sturgeon because she is a corrupt liar vote for me instead.

    261. Ros Curwood says:

      Would the Facebook Ban, then, not apply to the BBC, for ignoring the existence of a group of people, i.e. Alba?

    262. Effigy says:

      A near majority translates as No Majority
      a signal for the media that we don’t want independence.

      An independence supporter not voting or spoiling a ballot paper
      for a reason no one will ever reveal leaves the door open for unionist control.
      again it will be read as no one wants independence.

      I agree SNP have been a disgrace lately but their corruption is at amateur
      level compared to the London Based Labour and Tory governments we endured.

      Although I agree with it being a long shot for SNP to fight for Indy Ref 2 any time soon
      it’s a racing certainty that the English Parties will never ever let Scots decide Scotland’s future.

      My hopes and prayers are that Alba have the few seats that will hold the balance of power and
      Alex will hold Nicola to account and expose her lack of focus on independence.

      I only have one card I feel I can play and it’s to play SNP 1 Alba 2 just as Alex requested.

      He has been and can be again the most accomplished Scottish Politician I have ever heard of.
      Let’s follow him and his instruction to keep our hopes alive!

    263. Luigi says:

      If Sturgeon is guilty then she will get her just deserts in due course. That can wait as far as I’m concerned. Geeez Alba will be lucky to score on a positive campaign. What chances does a petty spiteful revenge vote have of success? If you want to waste your vote and play that game then go ahead but don’t t expect others to fall for it. If it’s good enough for Alex Salmond nuff saud: SNP 1 Alba 2. Ye know it makes sense. 🙂

    264. Thomas says:

      You have to laugh at these unionist trolls bleating on about gaidhlig.

      Once their lies about it is slaughtered on the field of knowledge , it then laughably becomes their concern for Scotlands future economic wellbeing if we dare to take an interest in our countries language and culture.

      Can you imagine if the scottish government took them literally about the economic linguistic argument and brought in a policy of teaching american english , the worlds foremost economic superpower , and ditched their precious british english?

      Imagine the uproar over a slight dialetical difference between scotland and England in terms of what was being taught in scottish schools?

      Nothing to do with economics or any other puerile reasons , but simply as ever anything that divides their precious onion must be opposed.

      Just shows how fragile british culture actually is when a three thousand year old language with a hundred thousand speakers sends fear into the speakers of a language of billions.

      Its the same reaction we see from brit nats when a few eastern europeans speak in their own tongue in the supermarket , or some auld asian lady walks past in her hijab.

      As the empire continues to sink and decline , the british more and more continue to whine.

      SNP 1 ALBA 2

    265. boris says:

      https://caltonjock.com/2021/05/05/european-crime-busters-allege-aberdeen-is-illegal-money-laundering-centre-and-its-economy-is-manipulated-by-the-mafia-council-leader-not-overly-concerned/

      Aberdeen is a “mafia Stronghold” for a notorious crime syndicate which controls swathes of the city’s economy, according to a new report from the European Union organisation “Transcrime” who advised that the Naples-based Camorra crime organisation, linked with many killings, in Europe maintains a stronghold in catering, retail, transport finance and property sectors in Aberdeen.

      An Unconcerned Barney Crockett said; “I think the attraction of Aberdeen is that they can swap over a lot of (laundered) money without trace, because Aberdeen is a thriving business environment.

    266. Socrates MacSporran says:

      I note one or two of the fainter of heart on here starting to question ALBA and Alex’s tactics.

      Unfortunately, Alex was a victim of circumstances. The two Holyrood enquiries managed to kick the can down the road far enough, then came up with disgraceful pauchled “findings” which left Eck short of time to get ALBA into the public’s consciousness.

      Then came the disgraceful BBC/msm campaign to deny the new party the oxygen of publicity, plus their disgraceful hounding of him with a false narrative. That ALBA has done as well as it has is, under the circumstances, surprising – and we do not yet know how things will pan-out at the ballot box.

      One thing is certain, if Eck gets back to Holyrood, he will run rings round Sturgeon, Harvie and the pygmies leading the Unionist parties.

      At FMQs, Sturgeon will be unable to ignore him and he will destroy her with his questions. By the time of the next Westminster General Election – since I do not see the current SNP leadership bringing forward Indyref2 before then, ALBA will be a real force in Scotland, and Sturgeon will probably be history.

    267. ian murray says:

      Cape Breton is the hotbed for Gaelic in Canada
      The last census 2011 showed over 7000 Gaelic speakers across the country, this includes Welsh, Irish, Scots and Breton.
      Scotland has recruited teachers from Canada to teach Gaelic which is on the rise and there Gaelic signs in the Atlantic provinces.
      My son used Covid as an opportunity to complete an online course and can get by (he is a Celtic musician)

    268. Ros Curwood says:

      Deeply shame-making, what has happened to Craig Murray. Second only to the cruel, crude and cringe-making actions taken to discredit Alex Salmond, and despite a jury verdict of not guilty you only have to read the comments pages of The National to know how that boiling mud has stuck. Poor Craig, to have got past all the barriers in his way to tell the truth and shine the light on dark doings, only to be overwhelmed by the grot disguised as the justice system as represented by our own SNP and SG. Please please let it be that Alba defeats all the odds, as Wings seems to do, and gets in tomorrow. Hope the first thing then would be to work on getting Craig freed up to work.

    269. Luigi says:

      Alba just need to establish a bridgehead, even 2 or 3 MSPs and all hell breaks loose. Ye better believe it. Whatever happens 2morro I hope that Alba continue and become the face of the Yes campaign and eventually get out there on the big AUOB matches when they are allowed to resume. Time to pick up where we left off. It’s coming far a that. 🙂

    270. Socrates MacSporran says:

      Really desperate and despicable anti-ALBA piece by our old friend Severin Carroll, in The Guardian this morning.

      Them Yoons be shitting themselves big time at the prospect ofa Salmond-led ALBA having any MSPs, and showing-up the current SNP/Greens leaderships for the chancers they are.

    271. Daisy Walker says:

      Right last push before polling day. Off to do leaflets.

      Wee cup of tea first. I got a leaflet through the post.
      I thought it was from the Libdems. The colour is orange and purple.

      The party name is at the bottom on the last page – Tories.

      Page 1, Stopping an SNP majority and Indyref2

      Centre page SNP, SNP Referendum – tactical voting,

      Last page stop the SNP and Indyref 2 ‘we must keep the pro uk party list vote united’ in mid scotland and fife. The bit in inverted commas is highlighted on the form.

      As the Rev has pointed out. This is not an election form aimed at Pro Union voters.

      This is an election form aimed fair and square at Indy supporters – to scare/jolt them into both votes SNP.

      I’m going to bet the full packet of chocolate biscuits that the Tories are going to put a picture of Nicla on their Polling Station posters again, along with the 2 punch slogan

      ‘Stop the SNP Majority, to stop Indyref 2.’ By making it 2 punch it ties in with the 2 votes.

      This pamflet breaks every single rule about ‘selling’ – they are so busy ‘mentioning’ the rival party, that in fact they are extending the SNP brand name, while their own is non existent on the form. They have also changed their colours – from saltire blue, to purple and orange – anything and everything to ensure there is no association to Alba. (This actually helps Alba, because a few folk at the doors have seen me approaching, seen the blue leaflet and thought it might be the Tories, cause of the blue colour.)

      Tomorrow folks, can we extend the hand of friendship to our fellow Yessers, who are not quite where we are yet. There’s many a good person still in the SNP and they’ve been and continue to be, badly conned and let down by the current leadership.

      But they still want Indy… and we need them, if not today, then tomorrow.

      Obviously vote with your conscience, but beyond that, lets Max the Yes – by any means possible.

    272. Shocked says:

      On the Gaelic thing, I did it for 3-4 years at school and I could just about hold a conversation in it. Since then I have never had even one occasion to use it and now I can’t remember enough to use it. Truth is English is a much better language, in fact English is such a good language compared to others in the way you can describe things it’s become the worlds international language. As for Scots, it’s just a dialect or an evolution of English the same way olde English is. It is not a stand alone language.

    273. Bob Mack says:

      We should by now all realise how we must vote tomorrow, although putting an x next to the SNP is choking me.

      I wish Alba good fortune. Keep on telling the truth Stu.

    274. Thomas says:

      I see the labour party champagne socialists are now in panic mode about the polls across Scotland , England and Wales.

      Lets hope the dimwits that run her majesties imperial british labour party keep sir keir knight of the realm starmer , sarwar and drakeford in power for a good few more years yet.

    275. Daisy Walker says:

      Aw the Gammon are outraged
      OUTRAGED I tell ye
      He’s a Dirty old Bastard, they roar
      As they rip up the election leaflet I put through their door

      He’s a Dirty Old Bastard, they spit
      At me, a woman in her 50’s…
      As if, as if, suddenly THEY’VE become the experts

      But I remember, I remember, aw the Gammon
      in my 20’s, in my 30’s and 40’s
      Aw the Gammon who thought it funny, fair game in the workplace, and the best you could hope fir was the ‘decent’ ones who wouldney join in, but would turn a blind eye, just the same.

      But you know, they’re the experts.
      Not with your actual ‘hands on experience’ you understand
      Just because.

    276. Tinto Chiel says:

      @Graf Midgehunter 10.44: nice to wake up to an entertaining contribution but you really seem to have upset some folk, aka The Watchers.

      We could do with more blasts from you foghorn 😉 .

    277. Shocked says:

      I see the SNP 1 crowd are still hard at it.

      So some home truths.

      After last night debate it is clear that Nicola Sturgeon is in this election for only one thing, herself. Independence is way down her list of priorities. Since 2014 she has not moved the argument on one iota and she has nothing new to convince people. Independence to her is just a carrot to con people.

      The trans lobby have become the most important thing to her because of their online presence. An online army of campaigners and trolls she doesn’t have to pay for, all she has to do is promise to cancel women and wave a rainbow flag instead of a saltire..

      If a referendum was held today it would be lost. Around 1/3 of SNP voters do not support independence and over 1/2 green voters do not support it either. This is down to the utter failure of Sturgeon and Harvie to make the case through positive engagement and government performance. The irony is that the people keeping them in power are independence supporters even though these people have become marginalised and ignored by the New SNP/Greens and until they wake the hell up and stop voting for the New SNP/Greens it won’t change,

      The New SNP is a party of devolution, the only way their plans add up is when we have Barnett and money from the UK, without this cash none of their plans (which they won’t implement anyway) are possible.

      The numbers for an independent Scotland could add up if proper thought went into it and people told some home truths but they don’t and they won’t. It is not in the New SNP’s interest to make them add up.

      So to the SNP1 crowd, those of you aren’t in on this con trick, you’ve been had, the ones who are in on it, hell mend you for destroying the independence movement.

    278. Tinto Chiel says:

      “your”

    279. Famous15 says:

      Shocked.

      Ye are jeest a wee stirring minger,but ah laike ya.

      Says he as he twirls his boa and his bits like Kenny wotsisname.

      The average human brain can accommodate ten languages and then like muscles expand into accommodating common sense or go haywire and start talking about gaidhlic rotting the brain!.I just made that up as my brain had spare capacity.

    280. Big Jock says:

      Socrates -You are spot on.

      Sturgeon has an easy meal ticket in Holyrood. The opposition are worse than useless and that includes wee Harvie Wallbanger. What Sturgeon fears the most is Alex Salmond. He is her nemesis, that’s why she tried to jail him.

      If she dares to strike down his indy proposal , she will find out what backlash actually means. She can duck out of many things, but she can’t claim to want independence and then vote against it.

    281. Daisy Walker says:

      That poem has a title

      AN’ A JURY FU’ OH WIMMEN COUNTS FOR NOTHIN

    282. Ottomanboi says:

      SHOCKED 8:22
      Your ignorance in matters linguistic is fully manifest.
      Keep on trolling!

    283. Mikey d says:

      If nicola sturgeon really wanted independence, she would have backed snp1 and alba 2 in tomorrows vote, as i said before on this blog, i used to hold this woman with the greatest respect, friends and family were fed up with me singing her praises . Now i have nothing but the utmost contempt for her and shame on myself for being taken in. So tomorrow its alba2 and grudgingly snp1.

    284. DJ says:

      Agree with you Big Jock @ 8.43am. That is why it’s SNP 1 Alba 2 for me. The dream shall never die!

    285. Breeks says:

      Wee Chid says:
      5 May, 2021 at 6:32 am
      Willie says:
      5 May, 2021 at 6:08 am

      I’m just not seeing that here in the south…

      The South is where the Tories are strongest, thus the SNP is weaker, and so it’s the Tory dominance which d’Honte will peg back and make it easier for the SNP to take a list seat or two. If memory serves, I think Wheelhouse is, or at least was, a List MSP behind Tory John Lamont I think, who is now an MP.

      So rightly, you should be seeing less of ALBA, because the strategy of SNP1 and 2 makes sense.

      Post Election, win, lose or draw, I think Sturgeon will be in deep shit. Her mendacity is there for all to see, and her disingenuous stance on Independence will neither be forgotten nor excused. Her complicity with the Unionist media to silence ALBA and keep them from debate was utterly disgusting for any friend and ally of Scottish Independence.

      I think the other eye opener, or maybe re-opener, is the extent to which the Scottish media and BBC are irredeemably corrupt, profoundly and systemically prejudiced against Scottish Independence, and exist to indoctrinate the Scottish Electorate with the tidings and narratives which the Colonial encroachers want Scots to hear and believe.

      I hope ALBA do well. I think we will, but win, lose, or draw, we should brace ourselves for the torrent of abuse and cynicism from the BritNat / SNP spin. They have determined to be enemies of ALBA. No surprise from the colonial media, but the SNP should hang their heads in shame.

      It’s not scientific, but when I see Sturgeons Campaign buses pictured on social media, there is a subconscious disconnect between a coach with 50+ seats having 4 or 5 SNP staffers trying to look like a crowd. They could have done that with a minibus surely? There was even one image of Angus Robertson and one other, (don’t know who it was), but they bracketed the “Both Votes” logo as if they themselves actually were the “both” votes painted on the bus.

      It’s like they’re not even trying. Actually, it’s a very Unionist / Tory ethos when you’ve no grassroots support… do a couple of gimmicky pictures, then sit back and let the media do the heavy lifting.

      In contrast, ALBA seems to have hit the streets like old pros who know what they’re doing. I’ve heard it said that all the SNP activists have moved over to ALBA. I don’t know if that’s actually true, it was only hearsay, but it looks quite credible from the pictures you see.

      Thing is, it isn’t just activists which the SNP is haemorrhaging to ALBA, it is the vital essence of YES, and the soul of the Independence movement.

      It didn’t have to be this way. That there is such division and acrimony is 100% down to Sturgeon and the gratuitous falsehoods and smears she has perpetuated against Alex Salmond. I so very much look forward to her public dissection once the new Holyrood Parliament resumes, hopefully with a strong ALBA contingent tempting more SNP defectors.

      To anybody who is serious about Scottish Independence, getting rid of Sturgeon is now pretty close to our No.1 priority. Or actually… maybe it isn’t. She is spent. It’s the SNP which needs to ditch her, otherwise it’s the SNP will simply be left behind. I think it’s already happening.

    286. Mac says:

      So what are the predictions on how ALBA (and the others) will likely do?

      As expected if ALBA surge in anyway it is going to be very late given how ridiculously late they launched (no fault of their own).

      I’d probably take 150,000 regional votes right now if you offered it to me but honestly I have not got a clue how it will go.

      There seems to be suddenly and increasingly some visible signs that ALBA is gaining some traction here.

      If ALBA gets a political toehold on Thursday it will be an amazing result.

      If they do better than that then it will be a stunning one.

      I don’t know why I do this to myself but I am starting to think (or probably more accurately ‘feel’) that ALBA might do well here.

    287. Shiregirl says:

      Wait, you’ve never watched Game of Thrones?

    288. Big Jock says:

      Mac – I think Alba are being downplayed. I think they will return 5-6 MSPs.

    289. true scot says:

      The thing about democracy is that it hurts to be on the losing side, and I suspect this week is going to be all about pain.

      However the next term will be a phenomenally tough balancing act for Sturgeon as polls suggest she’s largely being elected to manage a devolved parliament and certainly not to seek a referendum by 2023 – with a moderate uptick for agreement that one could be sought towards the end of the term. By which time there will be no Covid to bury bad news under.

      It hurts now, but it won’t hurt forever.

      Because she – and the SNP – are not actually that great at devolution, as will be slowly and painfully exposed in the next 5 years.

    290. The Isolator says:

      @Effigy

      That’s exactly where I find myself,having come from a working class family whose parents were SNP members since the 1950’s I have no other cards left to play.It’s the hand I’ve been dealt.

      So it’s SNP 1 and Alba (I have now left the SNP and joined ) on the list.The day I allow any unionistas to benefit from my vote is the day I’m deid.

    291. Meg merrilees says:

      Listening to radio commentary and reading summaries of the leader’s debates is truly sad!
      Scotland is being lied to on a massive scale and most people are unaware.
      There is absolutely NO mention anywhere of the agenda that Lorna Slater holds dear, Greens due to pick up a large amount of votes because people believe this will help climate challenge and Indy.
      46% of Greens don’t care/want Indy; Nicola sits back letting everyone else talk about Indy.
      Turkish guy on Radio Scotland just now absolutely hits the nail on the head- he said all the opposition parties talk about is how they will stop Indy, no discussion of their policies on education, economy, issues. Exact quote- ‘the debate was a joke! ‘
      I sincerely hope that ALBA can make a dent tomorrow. Don’t want to think about the alternative.

    292. Graf Midgehunter says:

      Tinto Chiel says at 8:35 am

      @Graf Midgehunter 10.44: nice to wake up to an entertaining contribution but you really seem to have upset some folk, aka The Watchers.

      We could do with more blasts from you foghorn ? .
      ————–
      🙂 🙂

    293. Willie says:

      Well here it is folks. A Saturday TV broadcast by the redoubtable commentary of the results as they announce by Messrs Roddy Macleod aka Barrhead Boy, Iain Lawson and Jason Michael McCann aka Jeggit.

      With further commentary from politicians this is the coverage that we should look forward to.

      Undernoted is link to article giving details of the YouTube broadcast.
      https://yoursforscotlandcom.wordpress.com/2021/05/05/the-saturday-results-programme/

    294. Ottomanboi says:

      Patrick Harvie is spitting feathers over those he terms «transphobic» and «homophobic».
      Harvie is an assertive atheistic humanist. Classic humanism is based on reason informed by fact, knowledge and wisdom. His support for identitarian gender fixated politics indicates a flight from reason, fact and wisdom. His knowledge of human biology is fantastic.
      Repeat a lie often enough and for many it becomes fact.

    295. Meg merrilees says:

      Breeks@8.57
      I can vouch that the ALBA activists in Stirling and Fife are almost all ex SNP activists. We already had each other’s phone numbers, e mails, so organising leaflets etc has been so easy.
      Everyone knows what streets matter, leaflets distributed really quickly plus being local, we have been recognised on the street as a walking endorsement for ALBA among the dearth of any media coverage.
      Have only met one, novice. despondent SNPactivist led letting a huge area alone on Stirling. Their remark summed it up- ‘I wish we could be doing this together after all, we all want the same thing.’ We all felt sorry for him!
      SNP1 ALBA2 – Alex is the master tactician- we have to trust his ‘tip’.

    296. Breeks says:

      Meg merrilees says:
      5 May, 2021 at 9:20 am
      Listening to radio commentary indoctrination and reading summaries of the leader’s debates is truly sad!

      Fixed that for you Meg. 😉

    297. Shocked says:

      @ottomanboi

      Next you’ll be claiming us scots are genetically closer to some mythical ancient and proud race than the English. Complete bullshit and I say that as someone descended from the Picts of the isles whose great great grandparents didn’t even speak English, rather than the invading irish Scotti.

    298. Luigi says:

      I saw a fair few enthusiastic ALBA supporters out on the road wi flags last week – wonderful. There is indeed something of the YES spirit about ALBA. That wonderful August 2014 feel about it – sadly lacking in the SNP since shortly after NS took over. It looked so promising during those heady days of 2015 when Scottish unionist politicians were falling like dead flies. Well, there’s a new kid on the block – it’s no surprise that so many ex-SNP activists have moved to ALBA. The spirit of YES has moved there and they know it. Most people aren’t daft – it’s only a matter of time – probably not tomorrow but soon, and when it happens it will be seismic. Lots of soft yoons vote SNP – I know a few! But the real indy supporters, after seven years of frustration are, slowly but surely looking at ALBA.

      ALBA – the spirit of YES

    299. stuart mctavish says:

      @shocked
      None of the organisers will be going to jail for covid so highly unlikely anyone on the state payroll (let alone politicians) will be at risk of going there for anything other than whistleblowing..

      Accordingly SNP1 Alba2, since it could give you Salmond v Sturgeon with Robertson as speaker, labour finally embracing Jackie Bailey, and the linesman promoted to referee, becomes not only the wicked choice for anyone not of conservative or unionist mind, but also a cunning one for intelligent or selfish voters who are 🙂

    300. robbo says:

      Shocked says:
      5 May, 2021 at 9:40 am
      @ottomanboi

      Next you’ll be claiming us scots are genetically closer to some mythical ancient and proud race than the English. Complete bullshit and I say that as someone descended from the Picts of the isles whose great great grandparents didn’t even speak English, rather than the invading irish Scotti.

      —————

      My, my you’re one strange Indy supporter you, aren’t you? There again, mibee?

    301. Meg merrilees says:

      Call Kaye- 50 minutes into the programme along comes a caller who explains beautifully some of ALBA’s policies.
      Immediately cut to prof Prentice-
      ALBA only showing 3%, no leverage, prob only AS elected and will cut a sad and lonely figure, sad end to a political career, yada yada yada…. so that’s the BBC done it’s hatchet job and just go red good measure along comes Brian Taylor to pick up any pieces and put them in the bin.
      So, that’s it then… we’ve done our bit and finished off ALBA, ha ha ha. Well done unbiased BBC!
      Well, we’ll see tomorrow
      ALBA, ALBA, ALBA.

    302. Lochside says:

      ‘Shocked’..the only language you and ‘Hatuey’ are fluent in is Philistine.

    303. Market Force says:

      “Vote SNP 1 and ALBA 2 so child molesters and Chicks with Dicks get access to female changing rooms and toilets.”

      “This will lead to women and young girls being sexually assaulted in places that were once women only spaces.”

      There, sorted that for you crazy, dyed in the wool Sturgeonistas…

      The Rev Stu says:-

      “So we’re making a plea from the heart. Spoil your constituency paper, readers. For children, for women, for gay people, for Scotland and for kindness”.

    304. Ottomanboi says:

      «Shocked» and «Hatuey» are avatars of the same regressive type.
      What on earth are «picts of the isles»?
      Trolls might at least try to sound plausible.
      So ham fisted must be working for M15.
      They do, however, display the ineptitude of the opposition. BTL Daily Mail typology.

    305. Dorothy Devine says:

      Market Force , you said that at 12.16 . Beginning to repeat yourself is a sign of mental decay.

    306. robbo says:

      Hatuey says:
      5 May, 2021 at 12:00 am
      “You want to introduce the Lynx but are against our own ancient language getting some sort of level playing field and taut in our schools ?”

      Robbo, I point blank refuse to believe, no matter how hard you try to convince me, that you can be that stupid…

      The difference, as I said, and it’s important, is that re-introducing animals that once thrived here has a high likelihood of success.

      On the other hand, attempting to resuscitate Gaelic or any other dying language is almost certain to fail. In actual fact it has failed, despite the many millions thrown at it.

      I’m with the other 99.99999% of Scottish people that don’t care about Gaelic. And I don’t want to see kids taught what I consider slang in schools. Sturgeon’s schools are struggling as it is under the weight of all her gender crap and other failings.

      ————

      Heavens ! What a language that is still spoken in most of the west highlands and far north has to do with re-introducing the Lynx and such like I’ve no idea?

      Will you be wanting to introduce some lions and tigers and bears too? lol Or what about the woolly mammoth, (they found a bone for that recently at Loch Ryan) or polar bear that used to roam her many moons ago?

      I think we’ll be fine with Gaelic thanks.

    307. Davie170 says:

      Market Force. 10.15am

      Don’t forget the Rev has also suggested to Vote for Sarwar in the Glasgow Southside Constituency, which the most evil woman in European Politics holds. Yes, I m talking about that thing Sturgeon.

      And also coming down the line with an SNP majority is the Humza Hate Crime Bill.

      Aren’t those SNP types ever so nice?

      Either spoil your Constituency Vote OR vote for a candidate that you think will take the seat from the SNP.

    308. Davie170 says:

      Dorothy Devine says:
      5 May, 2021 at 10:20 am

      “Market Force , you said that at 12.16 . Beginning to repeat yourself is a sign of mental decay.”

      Sorry Dorothy, what was that you said?

      “Vote SNP 1 and ALBA 2 so child molesters and Chicks with Dicks get access to female changing rooms and toilets.”

      “This will lead to women and young girls being sexually assaulted in places that were once women only spaces.”

      There, sorted that for you crazy, dyed in the wool Sturgeonistas…

      The Rev Stu says:-

      “So we’re making a plea from the heart. Spoil your constituency paper, readers. For children, for women, for gay people, for Scotland and for kindness”.

      Dorothy, don’t you like your Hero’s dirty knickers being washed in public?

      Would you rather we were Wheeshit for Indy?

      Pathetic.

    309. Kiwilassie says:

      Stainless Steel says:
      5 May, 2021 at 12:31 am
      I have not had any contact from Alba since I joined many weeks ago.

      I thought I might have got leaflets or other election material, but nothing.

      REPLY
      Have a look in your other e-mail folders & junk mail you may find they have gone in there.

    310. Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      “in light of your undoubted wide and numerous readership as evidenced above, have you received any response to your open letter to the Scottish Rainbow Greens of 28th April?”

      Astonishingly, I have not.

    311. Market Force says:

      Davie170. 10.33am

      Well said!!!

      People like her don’t like to mention the war.

      They want to cheat the voter.

      As Sturgeon does

    312. The Oui Coupar says:

      @Davie 170.
      Vote Tory to stop the SNP getting the HCB through ?
      Then WM Tories spearhead their own hate crime bill. It’s already been flagged on here. Perhaps one reason anti HCB has not featured in the Yoon campaigns.
      One way or another we get a HCB.
      These Bad Laws can be repealed down the line.
      Shutting out Union parties is the priority, except Sarwar.
      If Salmond plus a couple get over the line it’s a start.
      I think we’ll have to get off the keyboards and out in the streets to deal with the SNP

    313. Ruby says:

      Mist001 says:
      4 May, 2021 at 5:25 pm

      My son speak Latin and that’s a dead language too as far as I’m concerned, but he gets it at school, so there you go. If he ever meets someone who can speak Gaelic, they can both talk shite at each other!

      Reply

      I’m guessing Mist001 has never learned another language if he had he would know that learning a language is a lot more than just learning to have a chat with others.

    314. Lochside says:

      Market Force says:
      5 May, 2021 at 10:36 am
      Davie170. 10.33am

      Well said!!!

      People like her don’t like to mention the war.

      They want to cheat the voter.

      As Sturgeon does’

      Don’t mention the WAR FFS!!!
      I know the ’77’ Brigade has been recruiting cardboard cutout literary figures lately to troll on here, but have they now brought in fictitious tv ones such as Basil fucking Fawlty to shore them up?

    315. Ruby says:

      The Oui Coupar says:
      5 May, 2021 at 10:58 am
      @Davie 170.
      Vote Tory to stop the SNP getting the HCB through ?
      Then WM Tories spearhead their own hate crime bill. It’s already been flagged on here. Perhaps one reason anti HCB has not featured in the Yoon campaigns.
      One way or another we get a HCB.

      Reply

      Same thing applies to GRA reforms.

      https://archive.is/5k0EC

      Gender recognition certificate cost cut to £5 from £140

      Tories still opposing self-id but a big donation from a pharmaceutical company will change that.

      One way or another we get self-id.

      Direct action needed for both HCB & GRA reforms.

      I’m voting SNP 1 ALBA 2 in Edinburgh Central.

    316. Dorothy Devine says:

      A tag team – or maybe not.

      I have not yet decided what I will do with my constituency vote , I only know where I will gift my regional vote.

    317. Ruby says:

      The great thing about Wings is you not only get brilliant articles you also get excellent BTL comments.

    318. Cactus says:

      Last call (of campaign Caledonia)

      Message to all voters who desire an independent Scotland, again.

      Alba Party is the ONLY party to inject urgency into securing our independence.

      A vote for ANY other party on the regional list vote (peach paper) is wasted and is the equivalent of voting no to indy! – Just like happened at our previous Scottish independence referendum way back on the 18th September 2014. Don’t be fooled again.

      Let that message sink in. If you vote for ANY of the other parties on the regional list vote, you are in effect supporting and encouraging the continuation of UK unionism. See how that works with your wrestling conscience during the next 5 to 7 years.

      Aye for Alba X 🙂

    319. Republicofscotland says:

      Crazycat @10.56pm.

      Thank you for that comment, on the rise of the Welsh language that reinforces the people of Wales identity.

      I wish it was pushed with such gusto here in Scotland.

    320. Edinburgh Council is run by uber woke SNP`s Adam McVey,

      Adam McVey is like a mini me Nicola,

      he (i think it is a he/him) is in thrall to a small bunch of nose ringed transcultists and he like Nicola is frightened to cross them,

      even though he is throwing all Scotland`s woman under his rainbow bus.

    321. beflox says:

      Well, everyone likes to watch a train wreck …

    322. Al-Stuart says:

      .
      Good afternoon Graf,

      Thank you for some civilised conversation earlier.

      It makes a great change to discuss something with a kind, courteous and thoughtful person.

      Especially folk who genuinely respect Scotland’s right to self-determination.

      Then we have THE UBER-TROLL who advocates GANG RAPE.

      The NEWEST sock-puppet name he/she/it has registered is: “Stainless Steel”. They’ve only just joined Wings BTL, yet they write as if they have been posting here for years.

      “Stainless Steel” has of course been haunting these BTL for a long, long time. His/her/its grammar, syntax and abusive messages are pretty much a copy-and-paste fingerprint.

      How can we tell? Well EVERYONE on Wings who votes SNP1/Alba2 is a PEDO according to Uber-Troll. Also his penchant for using three commas ,,, and other fingerprints too.

      What disturbs me is this nasty piece of work ADVOCATES GANG RAPE ABUSE against someone he was Trolling. The message is duplicated below to indicate the level at which this lawless creep slithers.

      I am still trying to figure out if this person registering a new sock-puppet name every three days on Wings to disrupt and distract the Alba Party and other Indy discussions is a deranged loner or if the British State do employ such incompetents idiots?

      The British Establishment have achieved a very sophisticated goal. I loathe what they have done in denying Scots the right to self-determination.

      But there can be no disputing the facts. Shortly after INDYREF1 the UKOK mission statement was to DESTROY THE SNP & KILL OFF INDYREF2. Credit where it’s due. Well played.

      The bosses of UKOK 77th Troll Brigade in Gloucester have some of the smartest people in the UK amongst their 5,806 staff and £3 billion budget. Add to that a small but very talented pool from 4,053 employees who work out of “Box 500” at Thames House and you have the perfect storm to kill off the SNP.

      Seriously, would anyone disagree with the British Establishment’s success in destroying SNP? Nicola’s groupies and the ordinary membership are riven with an internecine war. There is almost no hope of Scottish Independence before 2026. Yes? No?

      However, the Alba Party has caused a shock. The Establishment are genuinely concerned about it. Hence the unprecedented media blackout of the Alba Party.

      As for Wings Over Scotland? Be in no doubt, it is a fact that First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has raged against this website at her NEC meeting rant.

      Meanwhile, the British Establishment would be FAILING IN THEIR DUTY if they simply ignored almost 1,800,000 site visits in February 2021…

      https://wingsoverscotland.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/1E65F26C-FD13-4BE9-8CA5-D51C8641FBB0.png

      So the Establishment are flooding Wings BTL with false flag Trolls. But the UKOK organisation capable of such a sophisticated plan that has worked in destroying the SNP would surely deploy something better than Gang Rape Troll?

      Who knows!

      As part of a Public Service Announcement for GENUINE new contributors to Wings Over Scotland, here are the names used by the Gang Rape Troll.

      Now you have a list of this persona’s other name, you can choose to scroll past some of the worst it has…

      THIS ABUSIVE TROLL DERAILS EVERY ARTICLE.

      IF YOU ENGAGE WITH HIM/HER/IT HE WILL LIBEL YOU AS A PEDO OR SUGGEST HIS MATES RAPE YOUR WIFE…

      Rock
      Hudson
      KcoR
      Gordon
      Andy
      Labour4Indy
      Patrick Jones
      Eugene Henderson
      Stainless Steel

      There are a couple more SUSPECT sock-puppet accounts/names he has registered and is growing, but the BTL posts from those have not yet posted sufficient for the authorities to action. Yet. More updates each time Gang-Rape-Troll hides behind a new sock-puppet name. You can usually tell his next name as it has a meltdown and mega rant with dog’s abuse each time one of his carefully nurtured earlier fake names is exposed.

      —————————————————

      The latest “contribution” BTL from the odious fake ID Troller PatrickJones/Gordon/Hudson/Rock/kcoR/Andy/Labour4Indy/Stainless Steel/EugeneHenderson is this…

      1 May, 2021 at 2:37pm

      Patrick Jones says:(to Garrion)

      “You’re funny.

      Howz your wife, she still got that birth mark at the top of her thighs?

      Me an the mates used to spend many a night around that area.

      It was a Bastard if you were Last though.

      Send her our love.” .

      ALLEGATIONS OF MULTIPLE RAPE BY THE TROLL AND HIS MATES IS SERIOUSLY BEYOND THE PALE.

      On what planet can that abuse by the Patrick Jones the lonely Troll be acceptable as “debate”?

    323. Alf Baird says:

      Republicofscotland @ 1:19 pm

      “Thank you for that comment, on the rise of the Welsh language that reinforces the people of Wales identity.I wish it was pushed with such gusto here in Scotland.”

      You have to ask yourself what language it is that gives the Scots their national consciousness. Its not Gaelic, obviously. Its Scots.



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