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    1. Paula Rose says:

      Waterwiggly – are you coming in Arbroath at the Seafest?

    2. Paula Rose says:

      sorry not ‘in’ – to

    3. Michael McCabe says:

      You cant have a Seafest without a Ship Song. Vote Yes.

    4. Thepnr says:


      Might it be found here?

    5. thewaterbeastie says:

      On the 9th? I’ll put it in the calendar and see – while since I’ve been up to Arbroath…

    6. Jim Thomson says:

      Not sure I’ve ever been to Arbroath before but she-who-must-be-obeyed used to holiday there many many moons ago.

      Youngest lad also recommends (deep breath) battered smokies. He attends the occasional Ayr match up there, and that’s the only excuse for his bizarre taste that I can muster.

    7. thewaterbeastie says:

      The Point of Nae Return – you are a gem, Sir!!! From that result, I scouted the other write ups from the results, and found this from 2 days later:

      Many thanks!! πŸ™‚

    8. gerry parker says:

      BBC Demo August (around the 16th)
      Very successful last demo with over 1000 in attendance and again a trouble free carnival atmosphere. Sorry I didn’t have time to report on it (I’m having a bit of a health problem just now) but I’m sure you all seen the photo’s Jim and Caz-M posted.
      Another BBC Demo is planned for August and the organisers have asked us if we would like to have someone from wings speak at the event.

      Ronnie is going to a meeting today to confirm the details.

      Anyone interested in doing a pitch for wings at this event?

      That includes you of course Stu.


    9. Quentin Quale says:

      For Kirrie Yes Shop – popped through for a blether but door was closed. Have popped a couple of dozen NHS for Yes leaflets through the letter box. Will catch up soon.

    10. X_Sticks says:

      @ Tam J

      “Can you think of a way to combine pro yes, drinking, music, companionship with raising some money?”

      I’m sure Paula might have an answer to that. Not sure you’d want to know the answer πŸ˜‰

    11. X_Sticks says:

      @Tam J

      “Can you think of a way to combine pro yes, drinking, music, companionship with raising some money”

      I’m sure Paula will have an answer to that question, Tam, not so sure that you’d want to know the answer πŸ˜‰

    12. call me dave says:

      Aberdeen game for the non-sky folk starting in 2mins

      St Johnstone game 15mins

    13. Paula Rose says:

      X_Sticks honey, our lovely Tam J is young, please do not excite him – he has to arouse the expectations of the many undecided. If he wants some ideas, then he knows how to get in touch.

    14. john king says:

      Xsticks says
      “I’m sure Paula will have an answer to that question, Tam, not so sure that you’d want to know the answer”

      Thats aw very well Xstick but wit happens if ye cannie play poker? πŸ™‚

    15. john king says:

      does anyone have a list of yes shops and thier addresses, Im scunnered looking for them and not finding any.

    16. Jim Thomson says:

      @John King which area?

      here are a few:

      Irvine, High Street KA12 0AL
      Glasgow, 136 Hope St. G2 2TG
      Stirling, 67A King St.
      Leith, 7 Easter Road.
      Kirriemuir (can’t find an address)
      Dunfermline, Bruce St.

      I just did the ol’ google thang πŸ˜‰

      Try a search for yes shop

    17. Jim Thomson says:

      … and add a town name

    18. Paula Rose says:

      1 High Street, Brechin

    19. Jim Thomson says:


      Inverness, Union Street
      Kilmarnock, John Finnie St.

    20. Alistair Grapevine says:

      Another Yes shop in the High Street Elgin.

    21. X_Sticks says:

      Gin rummy?

    22. Paula Rose says:

      Beggar my neighbour?

    23. Jim Thomson says:

      One in Oban too, 125 George St.
      Bo’ness, 19 South Street (info hub)

    24. Paula Rose says:

      Any Yes shop got a better address than ours in Brechin?

      Number 1 the High Street!

    25. Jim Thomson says:

      Glasgow’s lives in hope πŸ˜‰

    26. Jim Thomson says:

      Anyone else having to skip forwards a page after submitting a comment? My attempts take me back to the previous 500 messages and I have to click on “newer messages”

    27. Tam Jardine says:

      Paula Rose

      Your suggestion last night was very interesting…. I am just not sure if I have the figure for it (or anyone would pay money to witness such a spectacle).

      I got a bit of sun at Pacific Quay on Sunday so I’m no quite as peely wally as before but still… maybe best stick to the cairds

    28. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Paula Rose, Thepnr, et al (whoever he is) –

      I have, by circumstances which must remain completely secret, come into temporary possession of a badge-making contraption.

      If youse would like some wee badges made-up for the Seafest gig, please submit suggestions for a simple text, elsewise a wee copyable graphic, and I’ll make some. It will be a truly ‘limited edition’ as I have limited time and elbow grease, but I could do, say, a couple of hundred? T

    29. Ian Brotherhood says:


      I would love to be able to deliver them in person, on the day (and there’s an outside chance I might) but it would be safer to get them done and posted to Thepnr, along with whatever SSP leaflets I can purloin.

    30. Thepnr says:

      Just back from Hampden, really enjoyed it it. Great atmosphere and respect for all competitors, their countries and national anthems.

      Glasgow is doing a great job in the “friendly games”. This undoubtedly is one of the best games ever.

      Ian, thanks for the offer with the badges, everybody else feel free to contribute a simple slogan that might fir on a wee badge.

      News though tonight is that I had no reply to my email to Red Pepper events about our stall for Wings at Arbroath Sea Fest. Possibly we have been nobbled? Will know for definite tomorrow when I call the organisers.

    31. Paula Rose says:

      Darlings (and Ian) I’ve discovered this thingy called Twitter, apparently you can all read what I type there if you ‘search’ for Paula Honey Rose. Making many faux pas but already a young man called ‘Ian Torrance’ wants me to stop ‘following’ him. Advice?

    32. Michael McCabe says:

      @ Ian Brotherhood (Badges) one for the girls. And all because the Ladies Love a Yes. Yes looks good on you. Things happen after a Yes. 4 out of 5 Scots Recommend Yes . Ready Steady Yes. Don’t get mad get Yes. Yes makes everything better. Designed for Yes. Vote Yes you know it makes sense.

    33. Thepnr says:


      How about “Just Vote”

    34. Paula Rose says:

      @ Thepnr

      How about “Vote”

    35. Thepnr says:

      “Vote” does it for me.

    36. Oneironaut says:

      @Ian Brotherhood
      For badge ideas, I definitely like the Radical Independence group’s “Sack the Tories” stickers that have been appearing here and there throughout Saltcoats.
      Maybe that could be adapted into a badge…

      How do you get the images for it? Are they just the sort of thing you print off on regular paper?
      Could maybe try a bit of graphical tinkering with some ideas if you like πŸ™‚

      I’ll be in the library tomorrow, might see if they do colour printing…

    37. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Thanks all, but I was thinking about badges made specifically for the Wings Seafest gig, along the lines of ‘Wings on Tour’ etc…the machine isn’t mine and I’ll be handing it back shortly, so I’d have to be quick.

      ‘WOS SEAFEST 2014’


    38. Thepnr says:

      Wings Will Make You Free!

    39. Oneironaut says:

      Who was it I saw at the Counting House gig wearing the Wings T-shirt?
      Was a play on “Red Bull gives you wings”, except it said “Read Bull?”

      If that could somehow be condensed into badge form, that would be perfect! πŸ˜€

    40. gerry parker says:

      @ Oneironaut,

      That would have been John King.

    41. Jim Thomson says:

      you could just steal one of the badge templates available here:

      Not sure if Ian will be able to make use of them though. What size badges can you make Ian?

    42. Jim Thomson says:

      The templates open in Photoshop and Gimp (free picture editing s/w)

    43. Patrician says:

      The organisers of the last BBC bias demo have opened an indiegogo site to finance the next event to be held at Glasgow Green on 16th August, they want to demo against all MSM bias this time:

    44. Cactus says:

      Afternoon all, @thepnr ~ re badges, we’ve had ‘Alert Reader’, whatabouts something similar: ‘Reader Aware’?

      Good suggestions of ‘(Just) Vote’ or ‘(Simply) Vote’.. consider pressing ‘Vote X’ with a watermarked light blue background.. it draws the eyes in, aye aye πŸ™‚

      @Tam Jardine ~ Yep, let’s pencil in Saturday the 23rd August for a further shindig. Any takers for it being Glasgow or Edinburgh? What about the week before (16/08/14) for the Helensburgh gig at The Clyde Bar? Ahoy!

    45. Cactus says:

      Thanks for your above post Patrician. Clash of dates.. Helensburgh @ The Clyde Bar on the 9th August then anybuddies (next Saturday)?

    46. ronnie anderson says:

      Ian Brotherhood could you do some badges with just Wings on Tour of Scotland

    47. Jim Thomson says:

      @gerry parker

      I had a look at the selection on WGDs blog and I’d suggest that the use of “Yes” and “No Thanks” on the same badge would be a wee bit confusing for the uninitiated.

      It’s a difficult phrase to use while trying to get a yes message across.

    48. gerry parker says:

      @ Jim, Same as you, I prefer the ones that have the saltire and wee smiley graphic.
      as in:-

    49. Thepnr says:

      Good news I have talked today with th organisers of Abroath Sea Fest and WoS will definitely have a stall.
      She explained there had been some confusion as Yes Scotland and Better Together also had stalls and it was thought that us and Yes were the same group.

      Never mind hopefully sorted now.

      Regarding the badges how about a flying fish with Wings Over Arbroath around the fish?

    50. Jim Thomson says:

      OK – who’s got a talent for drawing a flying smokie πŸ˜‰

      There must be a winger with an artistic bent (who kens whit a fish looks like) πŸ™‚

    51. Paula Rose says:

      Jim dear – we have talent for the conviviality, now, will it be high heels, flatties or strappy sandals for the Seafest? Fishnet stockings guaranteed!

    52. Jim Thomson says:

      Paula, darling, I have a hankering for some steel toe capped wellies (will supply my own). I have several pairs of seaboot stockings that will look quite fetching (in a rugged kinda way) when peeking out above the wellie tops.

    53. Paula Rose says:

      Wellie tops! grosse

    54. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Paula Rose.

      I case it rains, don’t forget your crotchless tiara with earflaps!


    55. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      IN case…

    56. Paula Rose says:

      Brian darling – you are heading for the naughty position, do be very careful.

    57. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      I have been inspired by the comments about a badge design and although I’m definitely not an expert with Photoshop, I took on board the fish paradigm and put together a wee effort.

      You can see it here:-

      You can see the page about it at the link below, where there is also an image, A4 size, with the design repeated, for cutting out.

    58. Quentin Quale says:

      Brian, that is a work of genius. Man, you are smokin’…

    59. Paula Rose says:

      ( Brian dear could you sort out some CND leaflets, they can de downloaded as pdf files and printed, darling thepnr places great store in my ability to move mountains and I would so hate to disappoint the young lad. )

    60. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Your song, Paula Rose…

    61. Paula Rose says:

      Not really dear – I had to smack their botties after the mess they left at Murrayfield. They were supporting U2 so had to wait in line.

    62. Paula Rose says:

      This my dears is my world – please check out everything by this man.

    63. Paula Rose says:

      and as beautiful as it gets…

    64. Paula Rose says:

      This is beautiful – please listen, and share.

    65. Paula Rose says:

      It is a great pity that we do not have a unique culture, I rest my case.

    66. Paula Rose says:

      Shall we have some more music by the Queen of sole?

    67. Paula Rose says:

      Hi Michael honey, thought I was alone.

    68. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Jim Thomson –

      Sorry for slowness of response. (That ketamine was stronger than I suspected…)

      The only badges I can make are 38mm, and, obviously, circular.

    69. Paula Rose says:

      and the length?

    70. Paula Rose says:

      Sorry dear-couldn’t resist.

    71. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Paula Rose –

      Never mind the stats missus – savour the quality…

    72. Michael McCabe says:

      Here is a Cream Badge for all you old Rockers out Vote Yes.

    73. pete the camera says:

      on the badges idea what about “don’t want to be called a unionist gadgee, simple, vote yes” a bit strong, well that is what some small minded ones in the union think we are here in the bit that is further north than the northern part of the UK as they see it, funny how bad the geography teaching must have been in the schools there.

    74. CamreonB Brodie says:

      As Project Fear is soon to manifest itself in every Scottish home, I thought these kind of fitted.

      The Surfmen – Ghost Hop

      Jack Marshall’s Music – The Ghoul

      The Surfing Munsters – Funeral Surf

      Ans if I might. πŸ™‚

      The Proclaimers – Over and Done With

    75. Bugger (the Panda) says:

      Late night video for all the boys and girls.

    76. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Dear WOS pals,

      Missed the Glasgow Gaza demo today – wondering if anyone attended, and how it went.

      Feeling down for reasons which can’t be revealed as they’re just too boring…

      The Waterboys, ‘Fisherman’s Blues’ –

    77. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Magazine, ‘Shot By Both Sides’ –

    78. Thistle says:

      People we are running 2 of our own events in August that will be signed for the deaf and live streamed. Foodbanks & Welfare Reform on 14th of August, followed by Veterans for Independence on the 28th of August!

      I need full power help in promoting these 2 cool events and we have PDF format for creating poster prints and JPG for social media. If you create poster prints they can be put up ANYWHERE in Scotland as we are live streaming.

      If you can help send me an email and I will send you the files.

      Checkout the short video we made for our Foodbank & Welfare Reform event…

      Peace & Love πŸ™‚

    79. Ian Brotherhood says:

      The Clash, ‘London Calling’ –

    80. Ian Brotherhood says:

      David Byrne, ‘Psycho Killer’ (live, 1984) –

    81. Paula Rose says:

      Ian honey – some wisdom from St Andrew

    82. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Paula Rose –

      Cheers. That was good.

      Love the drawings, reminds me of a Glasgow artist, must track him down, I think you’d like his stuff…

      Anyway, glad you’re around this evening – please give us a tune.

    83. Nana Smith says:

      Odds are we will be allright….

    84. Paula Rose says:

      Delighted to please Ian honey – smash it up

    85. Paula Rose says:

      and Ian I’m an atheist – but please listen to this (I put this up last night) as it demonstrates that we are homogenised

    86. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Paula Rose –

      Had to pick a mate’s brains to get this, and turns out it’s the right one. The artist is Stuart Murray.

    87. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Typing about St Andrew (and YES shops from yesterday) –

      The Dundee YES Shop is in St Andrews Street.

      Also, Ian Brotherhood – Magazine – excellent single!

      And further to my posts of last night at 8.49pm and 9.00pm re possible badge designs:
      I guessed at 25mm (1″) diameter. I have had another go at at 38mm tonight.
      Spent a wee bit more time on it. Will get them uploaded and cited here in the next half hour or so. I can do changes so comments and critiques would be welcome.

    88. Paula Rose says:

      oh and of course Ian honey – OUR song –

    89. Paula Rose says:

      (oops I hope the darling Thepnr is not watching this)

    90. TJenny says:

      Paula Rose + Ian – I love that St Andrew vid, first seeing it posted on here some time last year I think. Hoping that by now he’s not a DK anymore but a definite Yes. I think of it as sorta Chic Kerouac (as it’s reminiscent of Chic Murray crossed with Jack Kerouac) πŸ™‚

      Would be good to get him/them to a WOS night.

    91. Paula Rose says:

      TJenny doll, I could forsake the boys for you xx

    92. TJenny says:

      Paula Rose – aw shucks. (weeblushingsmileythingy)

    93. Paula Rose says:

      Here’s us TJenny – typical girls…

    94. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Paula Rose –

      The Gaelic hymn stuff is awesome. Imagine the CG Hampden crowd singing that?

    95. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Ian Brotherhood (et al).

      Got the new potential design uploaded.

      The home page, with blurb, is at:-

      The link to the bare (actual size) graphic is:-

      The link to the A4 sheet for printing and cutting out is at:-

      Let me know if it’s a pile of doo-doo, ok, or if tweaks are required.

    96. Paula Rose says:

      Yes Ian, we have so many gems in our unique culture. The world knows so little about this huge country…

    97. Paula Rose says:

      Thought you might like some freedom…

    98. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Briandoonthetoon –


      What I’ve found, doing some basic badges, is that it’s surprising how much space is required around each image. The A4 page you’ve created will be perfect IF there is one fewer across and down…know what I mean?

      The diameter of the actual badge (38mm) doesn’t allow for the overlap required to bind the image to the badge-backing.

      If you could do another which has only 12 images per sheet, that leaves plenty of room to cut them out.

      Thanks in advance – you are a super-trouper indeed!

    99. Paula Rose says:

      Some lovely music from a small country that no-one has heard of…

    100. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Ian.

      You typed,

      If you could do another which has only 12 images per sheet, that leaves plenty of room to cut them out.”

      I’ve replaced the multi graphic with one with 12 on.

      It’s available here:-

    101. Paula Rose says:

      and another lovely late night dream…

    102. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Briandoonthetoon –

      Top man.

      I’m saving that right now, and will get it printed tomorrow. Fingers crossed, it’ll be fine, and I’ll make some badges…Thepnr will get them for Seafest, one way or another!!

      Cheers again mister.

    103. Michael McCabe says:

      Don’t get trouble in you mind. Vote Yes.

    104. Jock Scot says:

      Hi Folks..Yew Choob has a troll who was trying to have a go at winding us up and even tried to have a go at Wings so we set up a bit of fun. We wonder what the Wingers thought of our approach. best wishes to all.

    105. Michael McCabe says:

      This is Bliss. Vote Yes. Paula Rose Loved Your posts.

    106. Paula Rose says:

      Jock dear – we sent one of our minions to your page. Oh btw the ‘we’ refers to Better Together St Kilda πŸ™‚

    107. Jock Scot says:

      Paula , I have just posted my appreciation to that darling young man who came and stood up for us. there are some really screwed up people out there and you can tell that he is a ‘believer’, that is if BT have any concept of the word. if conditioning and belief are the same thing, I apologise for my previous statement. Sorry i couldn’t get up to St. kilda but when we go on the world tour you predicted way earlier in the thread, then St.Kilda will be the homecoming gig. if it can be arranged and OK’d by the gannetts.And I can’t be ersed checking the spelling.

    108. Paula Rose says:

      Jock dear – you along with the gorgeous Janet are highly respected people and I along with many others will ensure that you are rewarded. Does the Order of Our Chosen sound OK?

    109. Jock Scot says:

      Paula, that is so cool and if you could think of adding something on to the end of it beginning with an would mean being the recipient of an OOCH.

    110. Paula Rose says:

      Order Of Chosen Heroes?

    111. Jock Scot says:


    112. Paula Rose says:

      and the Order Of Chosen Heroines – Janet can I be number 2?

    113. Jock Scot says:

      Paula, I wouldn’t want to speak for Janet but I’m sure she will let you know in her own way.

    114. Jock Scot says:

      One for Yew Choob’s earlier troll……

    115. Paula Rose says:

      Jock dear – cash? this one? Or is it time to sue?

    116. Thepnr says:

      Hello Jock and Paula!

      Surprised to find anyone still awake. I’ve just awoken from a drunken slumber πŸ™‚ I was dreaming.

    117. Paula Rose says:

      Now Jock dear, I promised you a delightful experience and you did agree you would come – are we saving it until we are independent?

    118. Paula Rose says:

      Oops – Thepnr dear, I’m just toying with the boys – honest:-)

    119. Thepnr says:

      @Paula Rose

      Brilliant! Loved it,

    120. Paula Rose says:

      Thepnr honey – time for my showreel again…

    121. Paula Rose says:

      I know dears – I’m off to stroke my pussy, but here it is…

    122. Oneironaut says:

      @Ian Brotherhood
      Sorry for the delay. Yep, I was at the Glasgow Gaza demo, despite the rain πŸ™‚

      Woke up this morning and my back was killing me after spending half the day holding up one end of a heavy banner against the wind. But I’d be happy to do it again. Felt quite good to be there πŸ™‚

      Haven’t seen any videos of it on Youtube.
      And I don’t think the BBC were there, but somehow that doesn’t really surprise me!

    123. Thepnr says:

      No squirrels were involved in the making of this video. Only one Donkey who is voting Yes,

    124. Defo says:

      Michael McCabe
      Thanks again for the lift through to PQ3 mate.
      Hope all’s good with you. Shout Hi to Tam πŸ™‚

    125. Michael McCabe says:

      Hi Defo Everything is good through here. It was good meeting you and going through to PQ3 Hopefully do the same for the next one too. You have my number I think ? if so feel free to phone anytime. All the best Mate.

    126. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Oneironaut –

      Glad to hear you made it up for the demo. Sorry I couldn’t make it.

      Curious – what banner were you helping to hoist?

      See you soon mister. Cheers.

    127. Bugger (the Panda) says:

      I don’t know if this is real or a false flag operation. It refers to, what I guess to be, trolling and debating from an Israeli perspective.

      However buried within it, is a template of wording and positioning statements which show how to manipulate undecided or questioning minds.

      caw canny but caw awae

    128. Oneironaut says:

      @Ian Brotherhood
      Was the SSP North Ayrshire one. Actually wasn’t really that heavy, more kind of awkward to manage it in a heavy crowd with the wind trying to push it over.

      Was a huge crowd there anyways, no way they can say only a few people turned up to this one.

      Ok, in that article you posted there, was that someone from the No side, actually accusing the Yes side of “scaremongering”?

      Excuse me while I fall out of my chair laughing at the sheer irony of that, hehe.

      Seriously though, a Yes vote is the last hope of the NHS. If we vote No, chances are we’ll end up just like America – Pay ridiculous sums of money for your health care or get left to die.
      I wonder how many No voters actually realise that…

    129. X_Sticks says:

      @Jock Scott

      I sincerely hope that’s not my X you’re using there Jock. If you must fling X’s around then please use the CWG ones as they have two and aren’t going to be using them again for a while πŸ˜€

    130. gerry parker says:

      **PLEASE NOTE**
      The Disabled People For Yes rally on 8th August at Holyrood has been postponed.
      Yesterday we were contacted by Tony Giugliano at Yes Scotland who pointed out that under the regulations governing the referendum, campaigning by any side was not allowed on the Parliament grounds.
      He did say though that Yes Scotland was keen to support our initiative, and was impressed by the level of interest we had attracted in such a short time. He also offered to help us arrange an alternative venue and press launch to maximise our impact. We will try and get the details for this agreed as soon as possible.
      Watch this space!

    131. CameronB Brofie says:

      With some much going on in the world, I’m surprised these krazy Russian kats have heard of UKOKBETTERTOGETHERNOTHANKS’s Project Fear. πŸ™‚

      Messer FΓΌr Frau MΓΌller – You, you and you

      Messer Chups – Charade

      Messer FΓΌr Frau MΓΌller – End O Rama

    132. Paula Rose says:

      X_Sticks dear – we all know Jock has issues with spelling, he meant this one –


    133. Oneironaut says:

      @gerry parker
      “under the regulations governing the referendum, campaigning by any side was not allowed on the Parliament grounds.”

      No prizes for guessing if that regulation only applies to the Yes side?

    134. Ian Brotherhood says:

      By way of a wee prayer for our brothers and sisters in Gaza.

      “…silence will touch you and heartbreak will mend…”

      Van Morrison, ‘I’m Tired Joey Boy’ –

    135. Ian Brotherhood says:

      The Irn Bru ad preceding the Van Morrison video (above) was this – here it is on its tod:

    136. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Thepnr/Briandoonthetoon –

      Sorry lads, but this badge-making lark has gone properly pear-shaped.

      Brian, I can’t format the page to print the A4 sheet with the image coming out 38mm. It’s using 3 sheets, and printing them approx 60mm. I’ve tinkered with it for ages, can’t make it smaller. So, I did a simple text – WOS ON TOUR, SEAFEST 2014.

      Thepnr – the actual badge-machine has some kind of kink in one of the wee presses. I took it back to the lad who bought it (he, like you, is an engineer) and he couldn’t find anything wrong with it, but it’s taking gargantuan elbow-grease to get a clean ‘wrap’ around the badge-back. Horribly frustrating, and blister-inducing.

      I’ll have another go tomorrow. It’s not looking likely that I’ll get to Seafest, so whatever badges I can produce will have to be in the post tomorrow evening…

    137. Paula Rose says:

      Ian dear – you must come to the Seafest, my lobster is dying to meet you xx

    138. chipmonkey says:

      My post disappeared as usual. test comment.

    139. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Paula Rose –

      This is really a ‘visual’ joke, but you WOS people are smart enough to get it:

      A big lobster with a horrible hangover goes into his regular for a hair of the proverbial. He’s in a bad way, shaking, sweating, palpitations, the works.

      ‘Pint of lager John, eh?’

      ‘No way’ says John, ‘You’re barred.’

      ‘Barred?!’ exclaims the wretched creature.

      ‘Aye,’ says John, methodically polishing a hi-ball. ‘You were in here last night, giving it all that…’

    140. chipmonkey says:

      SCOTLAND BE BRAVE words by Canterchip.

      I am at my wits end trying to work with a guitar, a computer, and the internet πŸ™ Very rough recording. I just sing as a rule! (Usually better than this I hope – bent over guitar and computer.)
      Help anyone?

    141. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Paula Rose –

      Please convey my regards to your lobster, and tell him/her/it I’ll be up one day to take him/her/it for a walk along with my Labrador and Spaniel. I’m sure they’ll get on famously, and be happy to share the one length of tartan ribbon between them.

      PS What do lobsters regard as a treat?

    142. chipmonkey says:


      The copied link really does say http colon 2 slashes so I’ve no idea why it doesn’t work below pasted from the bar at the top cutting off the first bit:

    143. chipmonkey says:

      Lobsters like toes…

    144. Michael McCabe says:

      @ Ian Brotherhood For working so hard on the badges for the Seafest. Here is a wee song and a bit of poetry for you. Keep up the good work. Vote Yes.

    145. Michael McCabe says:

      @chipmonkey For a first attempt I thought your song was Brilliant and have saved it to my Favourites, Well done. Vote Yes.

    146. Michael McCabe says:

      Through all this madness I think we are Winning step by step. But I think we have to go. Vote Yes.

    147. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Michael McCabe –


      Nice one. Appreciated mucho.

    148. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Ian Brotherhood.

      size differential MAY be because I did them on a Mac and the Mac system’s graphics are tied to the graphics industry standard of 72 dots (or pixels) per inch.

      For reasons best known to themselves, Microsoft declared, way back, that their graphics would be at 96 dots (pixels) per inch.

      Means that a graphics appear differently sized, depending on whether you’re viewing on a Mac or a microslothbox, and the A4 sheet prints out at actual size on my machine (Mac to HP 2200D laser mono printer) but is wrong on yours.

    149. Ian Brotherhood says:

      For Paula Rose –

      The B52s, ‘Rock Lobster’ –

    150. Michael McCabe says:

      Well Folks that’s another day over and done way. And another day closer to where we want to be. Vote Yes.

    151. Oneironaut says:

      @Ian Brotherhood
      Need a hand with those badges?

    152. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Oneironaut –

      Cheers mister. I’ll call you this evening.

    153. Jim Thomson says:

      @Chipmonkey 4th Aug 10:41pm

      have you tried multi-tracking it?

      record the guitar part then (wearing headphones – very important πŸ™‚ ) just sing over it as a second track.

      What (if any) software are you using?

    154. Jim Thomson says:


      This is a bit uber-complex methinks, but, if you are using a Mac or a linux PC it seems to be able to do almost anything that a full blown studio set up can offer.

      I suspect that you can use it in basic/simple mode and then start playing with the fancy bits later as your confidence grows.

      I mean – what’s the worst that could happen? (Apart from a “No” vote :-p )

    155. Jim Thomson says:


      (OK – I know, I should’ve done ALL the research and posted once…)

      Here’s a list of a few more.

      I’ve used Audacity in the past and it seemed fairly straight forward at the time.

    156. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi chipmonkey.

      Just noticed your post about difficulty with a YouTube link.

      If you look at the page below, it says,

      “7. Don’t mess up the page for everyone else.

      If you post YouTube links with the http:// part at the start, they’ll embed on the page rather than being posted as links. That can lead to this sort of thing. So don’t include the http:// bit or you’ll find your video in the spam bin.”

    157. wingman 2020 says:

      Dear All…. When is the next big Wings meeting?

      Is there anything planned?

    158. Paula Rose says:

      Big Wings Meeting all weekend at the Arbroath Seafest, lots of well kent wingers and a party atmosphere -‘Alert Reader’ badges guaranteed.

    159. chipmonkey says:

      He’s lost the plot already – personal attack heralded it.

    160. chipmonkey says:

      Brian Doonthetoon – I admit when posting had failed and I looked at apparent full links on other comments, I thought something must have changed and stuck the whole thing in one time. I wiz tired oot. I went straight to the naughty corner.

      I also often get a message saying I’m posting to fast.(Even tonight) Me? Too fast? hehehe

    161. Tartan Tory says:

      Can’t hang about tonight – in bed soon and off to Edinburgh early tomorrow morning to meeting a certain Mr Salmond….

      Perhaps, this evening, he was saving his best efforts for tomorrow! I think many Wingers could have done “at least as well” (if not a bit better) tonight and I’m a bit saddened by this. I don’t think he lost the debate, but I’d like to have a word with his advisors, as he didn’t win it either.

      I posted on Facebook a few weeks ago that Darling’s wife was going to need bandages for her husband. Perhaps Alex is just a bit tired? Alien’s and Panda’s didn’t help tonight. Where’s my bottle of red……

    162. chipmonkey says:

      Thanks Jim for all your suggestions. I might (not in the next couple of weeks but soon) try Linux on an old but not too old computer (long story, have one I’m supposed to wipe)and try that programme.
      I do actually have multitrack just now. I tried doing the guitar first and found my timing was all over the place. (Yes I know, practice!)Working out the programme took hugely more of my time than writing words then fathoming key and some chords that might do!
      I had very nice headphones on, but if I played the earlier track while recording -well it got in a muddle. The instructions with the programme are almost non-existant.
      You are right though – I’m going to have another go. It might all seem clearer after a break. My singing hasn’t usually been with a guitar over the years or I might have learned to play a bit:-) Maybe I’ll get the guitar players I do know to visit and record me some backing sometime.Living in the middle of nowhere has disadvantages.
      Now then.. pipes and drums… (dream on)

    163. Paula Rose says:

      Chipmonkey honey – bit exciting isn’t it? All those big strong Wingers parading around the harbour, gosh!

    164. Paula Rose says:

      (btw Tartan Tory boy dear – you did promise)

    165. Michael McCabe says:

      When will the world leaders keep there Promises ?

    166. Michael McCabe says:

      A Wee dance to make you feel good. Vote Yes.

    167. Michael McCabe says:

      Alex Salmond Vote Yes. Its for the weans.

    168. Thepnr says:

      You only ever lie down if you accept that the person telling you to lie down is your master.

      I have no master.

    169. Michael McCabe says:

      @ Thepnr If you are not going to lie down. Then this song is for you. Vote Yes.

    170. Thepnr says:

      @Michael McCabe

      Not likely to give up soon. I reckon I can stay on my feet at least until the 18th.

      Thanks for that anyway, here’s a wee one for you from the same vein.

    171. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Thepnr –

      Sorry mister, but you’ll not be getting any ‘Seafest’ badges from me.

      Had another go earlier (after that magnificent ‘debate’) and the fucker just will not work – raggedy edges every time. The comrade who lent me it shelled out over Β£270. I hope he’s got the receipt.

    172. Thepnr says:

      @Ian Brotherhood

      No sweat mate, I hope nobodies out of pocket.

      We don’t need no sticking badges.

    173. Thepnr says:

      OK I’m hogging the thread but whoever you are don’t miss this LOL.

    174. Tartan Tory says:

      @Paula Rose

      What have I promised you, my dear lady? You can e-mail me directly if it was an ‘under the counter promise’ of an unforgetable night filled with starburts and super-novas! Note the posting time here. To be in the centre of Edinburgh at 9am on a misty wet morning….. Hmmmm,…. Bentley or Bike? Sod it, two wheels it is! πŸ™‚

      Within the hour, whilst you gently slumber, I will thunder along the Brechin by-pass, clad in leather, crouching to keep the moisture from my helmet, with four cylinders pounding between my thighs…. Sweet and pleasant dreams young Paula…… πŸ™‚

    175. Oneironaut says:

      @Ian Brotherhood
      Sorry if you couldn’t get hold of me yesterday, had an unexpectedly busy and very surreal day…

      Got to go out again today, but I’ll be back at around 4pm if you want me to try out my techno-magical skills on the ailing badge maker there πŸ™‚

    176. gerry parker says:

      @Thepnr. at 12:39

      I like that one.

      I always say I work with people, not for them.

    177. Paula Rose says:

      For some reason I was awoken from my slumbers at an early hour.

    178. Quinie frae Angus says:

      Hello dear Wingers

      Sorry haven’t been posting for ages again……working at Games and only just now coming up for air. Sea air in fact – hoping to get along to the Sea Fest on Sunday. However, as I will be reliant on coming down from the Belladrum festival helping a friend to tow a caravan – first time for everything, eh? – I have no idea what time I will be able to get along.

      Are there drinkies in Arbroath planned for later on the Sunday night at all, in case I get there and the Sea-fest is all packed up?

    179. Paula Rose says:

      Q f A – honey dearest, I’ll have a bottle stashed for when you arrive! If you come early I’ll be delighted!

    180. Quinie frae Angus says:

      @Paula Rose

      Thanks Paula, looking forward to catching up and swopping girlie titbits and fishy tales….

    181. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Paula Rose –

      I hope someone is going to capture some snaps and footage of Seafest for those of us who can’t make it.

      Is Thistle going perchance?

    182. Paula Rose says:

      Ian dear – footage?

    183. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Paula Rose –

      Strike a light missus, doesn’t take much to get you going…

    184. Paula Rose says:

      Ian honey – I know how excited you get by my Yes heels, best have a lie down dear.

    185. Quinie frae Angus says:

      I’ll be wearing my flatties this time. Don’t want a repetition of what happened last time!

    186. Paula Rose says:

      Don’t worry doll, I’ll have Tartan Tory on hand if you totter.

    187. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Paula Rose –


    188. Thepnr says:

      @Quinie frae Angus

      You promised me a beer. When?

    189. Michael McCabe says:

      Sadly I cant make it up to Seafest this weekend. Really looking forward to it too. So I will be sitting here with A Tear in my Beer. Hope you all have a great weekend though. And hope to meet some of you next time. Vote Yes.

    190. Quinie frae Angus says:


      Yes, indeed I do owe you a beer. Will you still be at Sea-fest on Sunday afternoon/tea-time?

      @Paula Rose
      Now Tartan Tory is another chap to whom I owe a beer. Don’t think I got the chance to buy him back a drink at the last Wings night out in Edinburgh.

    191. X_Sticks says:

      Sorry I won’t make it to the Seafest folks, I hope it all goes well.

      I’ll be off this weekend at Belladrum partying for independence.

      I hope you all behave while I’m gone, and you boys better watch yourselves if both Paula and Quinie are going to the Seafest. Crustaceans and kippers beware!

    192. Quinie frae Angus says:

      X Sticks – you going to Belladrum? So am I! That’s why I can only get to the Sea-fest on Sunday pm. How will I find you?

    193. X_Sticks says:


      Sent you a text on your number ending 321

    194. Tartan Tory says:

      @ Quinie frae Angus – You are not ‘owe’ me a beer! Of course, I wouldn’t refuse, but chivalry would see me provide the first beverage! Also, if you’re looking for X_Sticks, I imagine that you just need to look for the hat! I thought I saw him at a bus-stop in Rosyth yesterday, but it was probably just another fashion icon in Fife! πŸ˜‰

    195. X_Sticks says:

      Ah, TT, but I were a different hat for festivals πŸ˜€

    196. X_Sticks says:

      *wear bgr!

    197. Quinie frae Angus says:

      @ X Sticks

      Got your text! Thanks! See you there.

      @ Tartan Tory

      Ok, I am not a lady to refuse an act of chivalry. But allow me to buy the second…..

    198. Jim Thomson says:

      I’m pretty sure this isn’t a Top Secret(tm) document.

      For those of you considering a visit to the Sea Fest bash in sunny (well, Saturday only apparently) Arbroath here’s a link to the site map in my DropBox account:

      You’ll see we’re confusingly shown in two places, not sure which is my preference yet πŸ™‚

    199. Paula Rose says:

      Jim dear, if you expect me to wear my Yes heels in a muddy field, you are very much mistaken! We will be by the harbour dear wingers.

    200. Tam Jardine says:

      Canny make Sea fest – hope all you wingers enjoy yourselves.

      Have a desire for another Wings gathering and time is running out. Saturday 23rd was mentioned by Cactus and myself – Edinburgh or Glasgow? Could do a Wings pub crawl if the appetite is not there for a big organised gathering. I need some input though and someone to step forward.

    201. Jim Thomson says:

      But Paula, darling, I have to be able to exercise my wellies and seaboot stockings. They get sooo musty when kept in drawers for too long.

      And, think of it, all those nice Royal Marines just along the alley πŸ˜‰

    202. Paula Rose says:

      Think of all those boys jostling to get out of the rain – and rubbing up against us!

    203. Jim Thomson says:

      On the other hand, proximity of the loos does have a certain comforting element of “convenience”.

      And, I do have a lot of gaffer tape that probably won’t work too well on grass when trying to minimise trip hazards associated with generator and other high-tech gadgets and gizmos we’ll have.

      Dammit Paula, you win again!

    204. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Tam Jardine –

      Why don’t we ask Ronnie Anderson to suggest somewhere in Airdrie? Isn’t that roughly half-way between Glasgow and Edinburgh? After all, RA has travelled all over the country to support WOS gigs – it would be nice if he could host one on his own patch, not face a big drive at the end of the night.

      The man will surely have splendid contacts and get us a good deal on the hire of somewhere special. Does Airdrie Football Club have function facilities?

      Just a thought…

    205. Ian Brotherhood says:

      It seems I have killed Off-Topic stone dead.

      It was only a suggestion.

      Anyway, here’s a song.

      Taj Mahal, ‘Statesboro Blues’ –

    206. Paula Rose says:

      Ian dear! We’re always touched…

    207. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Paula Rose –

      Nice one. Cheers.

      Hope you have a blast at Seafest. At the same time, I hope Arbroath knows what it’s in for…

    208. Oneironaut says:

      Wish I could get to Seafest, but Arbroath is way out of my limited travel range…

      Hope you guys enjoy yourselves there.

      @Paula Rose
      No strappy Yes wellies with heels then? πŸ˜‰

    209. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Oneironaut –

      Sorry I didn’t get back to you yesterday (or was it the day before?!)

      Sadly, I must tell you – the badge-machine is officially ‘arseholed’.

    210. Michael McCabe says:

      @ Ian Brotherhood Loved the Taj Mahal. When we win this Referendum I am going to Cakewalk into Town. Vote Yes

    211. CameronB Brodie says:

      An interesting chat about patriotism, independence and all that jazz.

      Noam Chomsky and Howard Zinn on Democracy Now for 2007-04-16, starts 8:40ish.

    212. CameronB Brodie says:

      Zionism Is NOT Judaism.

    213. Silverytay says:

      Airdrie stadium does have a function room and they are very YES friendly .

      Ronnie is heading up to Arbroath today to help Thepnr set up for Seafest .
      I am hoping to go up to Arbroath on Sunday and will speak to Ronnie then if he has not already been in touch .

    214. Tam Jardine says:

      Ian Brotherhood

      Guid idea – checked the ‘slow train’ from Edinburgh and service is very regular – last one is just before 11pm so is doable for me.

      Last time I was in Airdrie was for a Queens game- took it in as part of my stag. A cold and dismal defeat as I recall, on an otherwise great day.

      Ronnie, Cactus, TJenny, CameronB, et al

      what do you think about Airdrie on sat 23rd?

    215. Bob Sinclair says:

      Oneironaut – Are you in Glasgow & Can you get to Crossmyloof Railway Station – If so let me know.

    216. Bob Sinclair says:

      Forgot to add – Saturday Morning

    217. goldenayr says:

      Any updates on the debate debacle,where yes voters were denied entry?

    218. Archie [not Erchie] says:

      Arbroath Seafest – I have just over 220 x 2nd edition YES newspapers if they are of use over the weekend. The thought of Paula Rose wearing high heeled wellies [Kylie Minogue] is causing me sleepless nights. I can bus doon from Aberdeen so see you all there. πŸ™‚

    219. TJenny says:

      Ian et al, I’d been wondering about having our next Wings night somewhere between Ed + Glasgow so I think Airdrie on Sat 23rd sounds a good idea.

      Tam could we meet at Waverley and go through together?

      If we are getting a room maybe the Yew Choobers could bring their gear and Cactus his guitar and we could belt out a few choons. πŸ™‚

    220. memaw/Wilma says:

      To all Seafest goers: Michael and I wish we could be with you and will be thinking of the great time we will be missing. I hope the weather will be better with you on the East coast because here on the West it has been foul.

      Love x

    221. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @TJenny, Tam –

      We really need to hear the thoughts of Mr Anderson…

      ‘Broadsword calling Ronnie A…Broadsword calling Ronnie A…come in Ronnie A…’

    222. Silverytay says:

      You might be better calling Thepnr as I believe Ronnie is staying with him this weekend .

      I am certainly up for a wings night out in Airdrie .

      Whats wrong with off topic tonight , it is normally busy on a Friday .

    223. TJenny says:

      Silvertay – was wondering that myself, then remembered that X Sticks + Quinie frae Angus, Cactus I think, are all at the Belladrum festival, and Thepnr, Ronnie Anderson, Paula Rose and others will probably be getting some shut eye in preparation for Seafest starting tomorrow.

    224. Cactus says:

      Howde team, Cactus present and well.

      Excellent, I’m in for Wings over Airdrie on Saturday the 23rd August (pending Ronnie’s availability).

      Some more Friday night tuneage then:

      In The Shadows ~ The Rasmus (Finnish Rock)

    225. Ian Brotherhood says:

      For any Don’t-Knows who happen to mosey by:

      Ian Dury & The Blockheads, ‘Inbetweenies’ (live, 1990) –

    226. Patrician says:

      @Ian Brotherhood

      Don’t worry about getting somewhere in Airdrie, Ronnie has a big back garden and his shed would do a great stand-in for a bar. He also has a gazebo if it rains (which is all the time here)

    227. Tam Jardine says:


      When you say get a room in Airdrie, what exactly do you have in mind? Might be kinda weird with Cactus an Yew Choob there an aw but still…

      We can meet at Waverley – will figure out the train nearer the time.

      Am tired of the main threads – aw this economics shite is boring me to tears. I’ve been skint by the end of every month of my working life and before that so what difference does it make what fucking currency I am short of? That’s the jumbo Cobras talkin

    228. Ian Brotherhood says:

      ‘Broadsword calling Ronnie A, Thepnr, Paula Rose…Broadsword calling Ronnie A, Thepnr, Paula Rose…’

      Youse having a wee private shinding somewhere?

      I don’t believe for a nano-second that you’re all away for some beauty sleep. (Mind you…)

    229. TJenny says:

      Tam – just re-read my post, and I see what you mean, (I’m now in fits of giggles).

      And, Yeah we can agree meet up time nearer the day. πŸ˜‰

    230. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Just heard a snippet of this on Radio Scotland (so it’s still good for something) – get funky!

      Average White Band, ‘The Jugglers’ –

    231. Michael McCabe says:

      A Martian walks into an English pub goes up to the bar. The barman looks at him in amazement and says can I help you. The Martian says can I have a double Brandy and a drink for everyone in the pub. The barman sets everyone up with a drink turns to the Martian and says that will be Β£329:87 Please, And the Martian says have you got change of a Zonk. Vote Yes.

    232. TJenny says:

      Ian – just read on BBC weather website that wee yellow triangular warnings for heavy rain are forecast for Arbroath and area, so maybe where Ronnie + Thepnr are has lost the signal to tinterweb – (we had incredibly loud cracking thunder + downpours here in Edinburgh this afternoon but no ‘tricity outage). I pity the tourists. I especially pity those up at the Tattoo.

    233. Michael McCabe says:

      If at first you don’t Succeed. Sadly Missed but his Music lives on. Vote Yes.

    234. Thepnr says:

      Does anyone know where ronnie is he lost us in the Arbroath chipper, he went looking for tomato sauce and we lost him!!

    235. ronnie anderson says:

      ah know where Ronnie is he’s in the chippershopmans hoose, he,s allowed me tae us his PC &wc & he,s nae tamata sauce,an where ur you,s

    236. Bob Sinclair says:

      Actually PMSL at that one Ronnie.

    237. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Lordy – remember youse are ambassadors for WOS and Scotland!

      FFS, someone give that man some tomato sauce!

      PS Youse must have red-hot ears by now, youse are the talk of the steamie.

      And BTW, Ronnie, we’re all coming to your patch week after next…

    238. Tam Jardine says:

      Michael McCabe

      A no-voter walks into the same boozer – paps his wallet and all his change fae his pockets doon on the bar. Barman says ‘what ye after’ No-voter has no idea, and instead of ordering, blames Alex Salmond for all ills. Is then barred but continues to post banknotes through front door of pub ad infinitum.

    239. Thepnr says:

      Ronnie I’m glad your OK, is Paula with you? Last I saw of her she was leaning into Tartan Tory’s Yes car windae.

      Next time I looked two legs were poking oot the windae and the car sped off!

    240. ronnie anderson says:

      Naw am no ok ma chips ur cauld ah still hivna goat any sauce, an this battered smokie is gittin soggy

    241. ronnie anderson says:

      whit dae you mean you saw Paula Rose disapperin wie Tartan Tory, he,s goat ma six pickled ingings in his coat pocket

    242. ronnie anderson says:

      her pocket

    243. TJenny says:

      Ian – we might have known they wouldn’t be having a quiet night, you just can’t keep a good Winger down. πŸ™‚

      Thepnr – Now we NEED an update on the abduction of Paula Rose!

    244. Thepnr says:

      No word yet TJenny, Tartan Tory has disappeared off the radar too. I’m worried for the pickled ingings. Need to go get ronnie now and organise the search party for Paula!

    245. Thepnr says:

      After all ronnie likes his ingings and I fear the consequences of not getting them back.

    246. Ian Brotherhood says:

      This is better than the best Carry-On highlights ever…

    247. TJenny says:

      We need to get agent PR’s strappy Yes heels microchipped – although that wouldn’t help if they’ve fallen out TT’s car.

    248. Ian Brotherhood says:

      …or around TT’s ears.

      (I can’t believe I just wrote that, but I’m going to submit anyway…)

    249. TJenny says:

      Ian – why do you think I just referred to the shoeses falling out the car. πŸ™‚

      Loved the backing track and beginning deffo sounds like high strappy heels clippity clipping along in a hurry. Another bit sounded like a wee sachet of tomato sauce being prised out of stiff fingers. Had to stop it there as the cat was becoming increasingly discombobulated.

      (Has Ronnie gone into Hulk mode? Nae tomato sauce and abducted inings – has a warning been issued to the population at large?)

    250. Paula Rose says:

      oh, honeys, gosh, tartan tory is such a gent, silly laddies in Arbroath, gosh the man is a total gent, so gentle and loving, and my god you should see his motor.

    251. ronnie anderson says:

      Paula Rose where fek ur you ah canna drive you,ve goat ma glasses

    252. TJenny says:

      Paula Rose – honey, have you gone undercover in a unionist pub? You’ve got Ronnie’s specs and pickled ingings – a search party’s being organised unless you give us the password to allow you to convert the pub undecides.

    253. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @TJenny –

      Okay, this is getting serious.

      Who’s going to call the relevant emergency services? I’m in North Ayrshire, so that’s not much use, unless they can scramble a helicopter from Prestwick…

    254. TJenny says:

      Well Ian, as all of us in Scotland now own Prestwick, that may be possible? Or, how’s Thepnr’s tracking skills?

      And where is TT?

      And is Ronnie still in chipshopman’s hoose, ……..?

      Will they all make it to Seafest tomorrow?

      Next installment coming up, soon?

    255. Paula Rose says:

      All sorted. Pauls’s back and all is well and the pickled ingings were rescued also.

    256. Paula Rose says:

      She’s having a showing with ronnie watching over her.

    257. TJenny says:

      Paula Rose – posts crossed x, Phew, glad you’re back, but what about the specs and ingings? And have y’all caught up Ronnie?

    258. Thepnr says:

      I wish I never found them again, but alls well that ends well.

    259. Thepnr says:


      Seafest tomorrow.

    260. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Paula Rose –

      Time for bed, now I know youse are all together and safe.

      I can’t believe you kept me up so long.

      Have a braw gig the morra y’all.


    261. TJenny says:

      Night Thepr, night all, and hope those who are going to Seafest have a great time.

    262. chipmonkey says:

      Saw Paula Rose and TT on tv this morning. They were advertising galaxy chocolate.

    263. Hood says:

      Looks like they are getting a good day for the SeaFest, weathers turned out ok, wee bit breezy and sun peeking through.

      Seem to be plenty of people here, I came to the workshop at 1pm and already the place was moving with people.

    264. Oneironaut says:

      @Bob Sinclair
      Sorry for the delay, got distracted by too many things on Friday to get on here.
      Thanks for the offer, but I’m not in Glasgow, I’m over in sunny Stevenston by the sea (the “sunny” bit is said more with sarcasm in recent days!)

      Got no money for the fare up there till Monday unfortunately, so I think I’m sitting this one out πŸ™
      Thanks again for the offer though.

      @Ian Brotherhood
      “the badge-machine is officially β€˜arseholed’.”
      Is that a technical term? πŸ˜‰
      Well I’ll be in all weekend if something doesn’t distract me, so if you feel like another go, I’m happy to act as tech support and executive in charge of “rude badge” design! πŸ™‚

      Enjoying the “Carry on Seafest” show on here though, hang on while I go get some more popcorn!

      Hope you lot have a great time out there tomorrow! πŸ˜€

    265. Quentin Quale says:

      STOP PRESS +++++ Sensation at Seafest. Ronnie’s curly string draws massive queues to Wings stall. Rumours are that the string is responsible for swaying many undecideds.+++
      We are going to do this, folks!

    266. TJenny says:

      Quentin Quale – Ssh – the curly string is one of our secret weapons. πŸ˜‰

    267. Quentin Quale says:

      For everyone at Seafest and all Wings readers – we are on the right track

    268. Bob Sinclair says:

      Massive thanks to Thepnr for organising Wings over Seafest.

      I really enjoyed leafleting with the sultry temptress Paula Rose, who certainly knows how to stir the blood of an undecided.

      Nice one by Tartan Tory, providing the Getaway car as well.

      Forgive me if I don’t give out thanks to everyone, all really encouraging and supportive of my inexperience when talking to people about the issues. You know who you are and please accept my thanks anyway.

      My only regret on the day, handing a leaflet & talking to a certain fat troughing scumbag & not recognising him.

      To those of you attending on Sunday, have a great day & hopefully stay dry.

      Sè you guys on Saturday.

    269. Taranaich says:

      Figured I’d cross-post here. Well, the Benefits of the Union weren’t much in evidence in Inverclyde a few days ago, but the possibilities of an independent Scotland were when Nicola Sturgeon came to officially open the Yes Inverclyde shop!

      You might spot a certain bearded cybernat there, as well as his brilliant wee niece!

      (Also I have it on good authority Nicola reads Wings Over Scotland, since she knows the mysterious Taranaich!)

    270. chipmonkey says:

      The brilliant seafest badges worked after all! Well done to designer Briandoonthetoon and badge machine fixing team.Here is the evidence – and also BDTT receiving his honour – the new ceramic wings badge).
      Don’t hold your breath folks, you know how good i am at posting links πŸ™‚

    271. Patrician says:

      Some pictures from today’s Seafest in Arbroath.

    272. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Patrician –

      Good stuff.

    273. chipmonkey says:

      above for non google. maybe.

    274. Thepnr says:

      A few more of the Wingers getting engaged with the punters.

    275. ronnie anderson says:

      For all those Wingers posting on the Seafest today & any refferance to Ronnie’s curly string.I wouldn’t know the difference between curly kale & a peace of string .It is F* HAIRY STRING & is attributable to Gerry Parker, who will be surely offended by this purloining of his unique contribution to the Wings satire.

    276. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Thepnr –

      Great. Looks like you had a good one, and the weather was kind after all.

      Seeing as you were in Arbroath, a song has to have ‘Smokey’ in it, so here he is, with Aretha Franklin, doing ‘Ooh Baby Baby’:

    277. Bob Sinclair says:


      LOVING tartan Tory’s dark green mohawk.

    278. Thepnr says:

      HAHAHAHA Just spotted it. Suits him in a cuddly way πŸ™‚

    279. Paula Rose says:

      In case you’re wondering honeys – I’m the one festooned in cameras. Someone had to take the photos.

    280. TJenny says:

      Thepnr – Looks like you all had agood day at the festival, are you doing it all again tomorrow and who does the amazing YES bus belong to?

    281. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Ian Brotherhood.
      You mentioned “Smok*”.

    282. Thepnr says:

      Hi TJenny

      Yes many of us will be down tomorrow. The fly in the ointment is that the weather in the afternoon is forecast to be pretty bad so might be a short shift.

      Tartan Tory owns the fancy motor, that’s him with the green mohican πŸ™‚

    283. TJenny says:

      Hi Thepnr – aye, TT’s car is amazing but the big YES bus – does it belong to YES Scotland?

    284. TJenny says:

      If the weather is as predicted, I think you’ll need more than hairy, curly string to keep the gazebo on the ground.

    285. Patrician says:


      Never under-estimate the power of hairy string, there was panic today when we realised we only had a short length of hairy string. We were on tenterhooks all in case there was an incident and we wouldn’t have enough hairy string to cope.

    286. Bob Sinclair says:

      On the 19th September I’m looking forward to being able to say ‘See that, I did that, that was me so it was’

      We have an opportunity, each and every one of us, to change the world with one simple X. How cool is that.

    287. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi TJenny.

      I’m no’ too sure which big YES bus you type about but “the Dragon”, blue double decker with twin rear axle and YES posters on all the windows, is owned by Sidlaw Executive Travel, based in Auchterhouse or Lochee, depending upon which web site you access.

      It’s available for the use of YES grass roots groups.
      There’s a Facebook page:

    288. chipmonkey says:

      @TJenny. There was also a YES Scotland camper van .

    289. gerry parker says:

      @Ronnie Anderson.

      Not a bit offended sir. The secret of hairy string has been handed down to a few people throughout generations. I’m only a temporary guardian. Hairy string is is the property of all wingers, and will be freely available to everyone after the Yes vote.


      Great meeting some new faces (and personalities) yesterday. Well done ThePNR for organising it, and best of luck for the second day.

      Stu has created a great community of people with the Wings over Scotland blog.

    290. Tartan Tory says:

      I didn’t get the ‘green mohawk’ comment until I went back and looked at the pictures a second time. Excellent!!

      Great day yesterday, but up early today and in the office for work now – lots of customers who need to be sorted-out in time for tomorrow, hence can’t be at the stall today.

      Checked the car this morning and and found a pickled-onion on the floor along with an ear-ring and a pair of knickers behind the seat. There’s a prevalent whiff of fish about the fabric too…..

      Paula, can you arrange to collect your hosiery at your convenience, but preferably when my wife isn’t home please! πŸ˜‰

    291. Paula Rose says:

      Gosh that was some ride, I’ve never had such power throbbing below me!

    292. Tartan Tory says:

      What can I say…..

      Glad to have been of service my dear. πŸ™‚

    293. call me dave says:

      Hearts v Rangers for those not signed up for Sky or BT

    294. Oneironaut says:

      If there’s one thing we’ve all learned from life, it’s that you can never have too much hairy string! πŸ˜‰

    295. Patrician says:

      Updated Seafest pictures from yesterday, thanks to Tatan Tory for the additions:

      Thanks ThePNR for setting up a most enjoyable day yesterday. also thanks to Gerry for the smokie, well you can’t go to arbroath and not have a smokie. To everyone who manned the stall and turned up to support us, you made it worthwhile.

    296. Quinie frae Angus says:

      Hi all

      So sorry I never made it to the Sea-fest……it took a rather long time to wend our way down the road after Belladrum today, and as it is now lashing a gale outside I doubt any of you will still be at the harbour, hairy string or no hairy string.

      Belladrum was great fun as usual, enhanced by meeting up with X-Sticks, and having a good blether with Tartan Pigsy as well.

    297. Thepnr says:

      @Quinie frae Angus

      Ah, don’t worry about it. Your were missed though. Ronnie, Paula and Cactus have just left my place. It has ben a good weekend.

      I want to thank everybody that made it to help out, what a team we are. Diverse? Yes no doubt about it but maybe that’s the point.

      Compared to the other stalls advocating a vote one way or or the other ours, the Wings stall totally rocked. It was interesting today that through all the bad weather were the last to leave and right at the end.

      Why’s that I might wonder?

      I guess we Wingers jut believe more in what we are fighting for and are aware that time is running out. Unlike David Cameron, WE will fight with every fibre in our being for what is right.

      My overall view from the weekend here is that we are well ahead. I’m happy.

    298. Bob Sinclair says:


      Seconded. Some really good work done over your weekend, I really do think that we got through to undecideds & maybe made some No’s reassess their stance. I particularly enjoyed handing out the ‘Im voting no because …’ leaflet down at the Better Together stall. Seems that they are not aware of the concept of ‘alert readers’ considering I was festooned with Yes badges and none of them questioned what their eyes should have been telling them.

      Hope you guys didnt get too wet today and that the cheeriness persisted.

    299. Tartan Tory says:

      Only sorry I wasn’t there to assist today. Got out of my office at 6.30pm and still have a few things to do before tomorrow!!! Hope the weather didn’t kill it completely today and that everybody got home safe & sound.

    300. TheItalianJob says:


      Good to meet with you on Saturday at the Seafest and talk. Good Wings stall. It was by the far the most attended. I noted few at the other Yes stall opposite yours. A couple were also seen at the YesScotland van. But surprise, surprise I noted no one at the UKOK stall.

      Keep up the good work all and sundry only a few weeks to go.

      PS Got my smokies and they were worth getting. As good as I remember them.

    301. Thepnr says:


      Just reread my earlier post and the spelling is atrocious. This is unacceptable in a world with spell checkers πŸ™‚

      Anyhow, was great to meet you too and be assured all those wingers that did turn up had a great time.

      There is no doubt in my mind that we are winning, let’s keep up the momentum.

    302. TheItalianJob says:


      And you never know we may also meet up again in Methil when we need a load more platforms built and an Indpendent Scotland specifies pro rata quota are to be built in Scotland.

    303. Thepnr says:

      Very good point, and something that bother me. Total, the French companies expansion of the Elgin Franklin field, a Β£billlion pond job…

      Was built in Italy then sailed all the way from there to here.

      Let’s change that by voting Yes. Jobs, better wages and why are we importing rigs for OUR N.Sea from Italy.

      I have no idea, but there is ALWAYS a reason. Just that we re not party to it.

    304. Michael McCabe says:

      @ Thepnr I wish I could have made it to Seafest. But alas I could not. I am heartened that you and the merry band of Wingers took the wings show to the People. I doff my cap to each and every one of you. This song is for you all. and all the other Wingers who do there bit whichever way they can. Vote Yes.

    305. Bob Sinclair says:

      Yep Thepnr, there must be some way of making the licensing of fields contingent on Scottish Yards getting their fair share of work. Not sure how this would sit with EU competition regs though.

    306. TheItalianJob says:


      Yes good point and what about Ardesier and another yard (I’ve forgotten the name) closed in late 90s. Then Buzzard discovered (largest field for 20 years) required 3 jackets (built in Norway of all places) and 3 topside modules built in Cadiz Spain then transported to Scotland. We know there are more oil platforms required in the next few years and they should be built in Scotland, we have the capability and if we need to we can re open the others.

    307. Paula Rose says:

      Any sensible country would surely have used the powers of government to respond to opportunities, the only reason to do nothing would be because you weren’t very good at macro-economic decision making. (I’ve spent a weekend with Ronnie Anderson and Thepnr, you learn a lot).

    308. Tam Jardine says:

      Thepnr, Ronnie, Paula et al

      Great work getting the message across at Sea fest – proud of you and the rest of the Wingers.

      Was wondering if amongst the guid work and the smokies you had a think about Airdrie – mooted as a possible next Wings congress. Saturday 23rd was put forward but you you may have been too busy to give it a second thought.

      Anyway – well done all. Am heartened today after a drive through Morningside – Yes Central. Blown away by the number of Yes windows. If we can win in Morningside….

      G’night team

    309. Paula Rose says:

      I must say, Thepnr and Master Anderson really are a fount of wisdom.

      They both advised me that asking men for a sign of their commitment to Yes was not a good idea.

    310. Cactus says:

      Cool to join you all at Arbroath SeaFest today, catch yous at the next outing.. any further thoughts for Saturday the 23rd August folks?

      Cheers also for having us back to yours thepnr, good company.

    311. Thepnr says:

      Too busy making a “non” point on the main thread. Don’t know why but it is important.

    312. Thepnr says:

      OK Now I’m pleading. If YOU don’t watch this you are a sad Bastard.Hahahaha

      It’s what we all do? Or should do?

    313. Paula Rose says:

      Don’t be silly dear, we don’t give “a lot”, we give all that we can.

    314. ronnie anderson says:

      G/D morning clocking in Thepnr&PaulaRose

    315. Paula Rose says:

      It’s OK Ronnie love, a few sisal hairs quivered.

    316. Patrician says:


      did you get home safely? How was today at Seafest? Did it rain as much as the forecast predicted?

    317. ronnie anderson says:

      @ Tam Jardine do you think we have nothing better to do with our time than think of enjoyment & organizing Wingers nights out,of course we discussed it between the fun of the Seafest,Patrician & Gerry will explore Witherspoons in Airdrie.

    318. Paula Rose says:

      Patrician dear, he’s home, let the man go to bed. But you know how much I enjoyed your instruction (that should have been in bold, but I don’t know how to do that), xxx

    319. ronnie anderson says:

      @ Patrician Yup, an Yup,but we stayed to the end BT gave up the ghost early Lol,another enjoyable outing for the Wings Team.

    320. Patrician says:

      @Paula Rose

      And I was surprised you could manage it with those high heels on grass πŸ˜‰

    321. ronnie anderson says:

      @Paula Rose wanna tuck me in an read me a bed time story lol

    322. ronnie anderson says:

      @ Patrician good day Daughter G/D GG wains came up to see me , hairy string beknighted Cactus ( no wee furry anamals we killed )

    323. Paula Rose says:

      Ronnie – bedtime story –

      Anyone who thought Wings was organised had obviously never heard of the phrase ‘herding cats’, I had read the odd comment from many, trying in many ways to be part of an elite club, I didn’t realise it was open to all.

      In my world we know each other,we have family across the world and in many ways I envy them.

      I am here son of a wonderful woman who is loved by her online community, yet she is unable to form a stable relationship.

      My father, a minister, was the archetypal , “Do as I say and not do as I do” fraternity – that gives you an idea of the length and breadth of the organisations that grandaddy Rose may have taken his orders from

      and now I am worried about being a foreigner in my own land?

      Is that a red squirrel?

    324. ronnie anderson says:

      @Michael McCabe we did get together & we did better than alwrite & we did spread a lot of love & laughter + the important messages of the Referendem vote.good music to chill Thanks.

    325. ronnie anderson says:

      @Paula Rose you could never be concidered a foreigner in any sence in any land,such a worderful lady with or without Salire high heels. I look forward to shareing a few Spritzers with you,Two straws please.

    326. ronnie anderson says:

      @ thats two straws as we are Careing Shareing kind of People.

    327. Thepnr says:

      @Paula Rose

      I hear what your saying. You have no reason to worry whatsoever. I’m your friend.


    328. Thepnr says:

      This proves it.

      The one thing you must do is “clink the link”. It’s an omen, check the date right at the start.

      I’m fucking tired, still have work the morn. I’ll be there, no doubt about it. Guess you know that?

    329. chipmonkey says:

      Thanks for an inspiring weekend at Seafest, Thepnr and the gang. I learned a lot – what an amazing group of people.
      Coming to what we were all there for, far more people were saying ‘I’m Yes already’ than simply saying ‘I’m a no’ (that’s really what they said). I think there is a big point in spending time with the already yes people too – some of us can get a bit wobbly about it and down sometimes – we all need to belong.
      Undecideds really do engage – even (or maybe especially) away from the stall itself. It was obvious where we were coming from (festooned with clues!), and people we were chatting with about their stalls were bringing up the subject and asking for information.
      Folks, we all joke a lot (of course), but can I just say that all jokes aside, no-one is as tireless as the amazing Paula Rose, who never seems to take a rest when we lesser mortals are flagging and never misses an opportunity – rain or not.
      Thanks again everyone.

    330. Silverytay says:

      Morning everyone
      I would just like to think Thepnr and all the other happy wingers for a great day out at Seafest yesterday .

      The only disappointment for me was the fact that Paula did not have on her slinky high heels or her kinky boots .

    331. Quentin Quale says:

      Silverytay – I’ll second that! My ears have now stopped ringing after Ronnie ‘explained’ the difference between curly and hairy (titter ye not, Paula) string. I just hope I don’t mix up my Yes and No on the 18th. Only joking – anyway, anybody who visited the Wings stall would never dream of voting No after being presented with the facts (and a lollipop) in a calm, friendly and informative manner. Thanks again, everybody, and can’t wait to catch up at the next event.

    332. Oneironaut says:

      “some of us can get a bit wobbly about it and down sometimes”

      I know that feeling well. I’ve never really thought much of Stevenston before, but talking to people here about the referendum is really starting to damage what little faith in humanity I had left…

      Looking forward to the next Wings get-together, even if it’s just to get out of here for a while and seek the company of some enlightened like-minded folks with hairy string! πŸ™‚

    333. Paula Rose says:

      Hope everyone is checking ‘Ask Wings’ (top right of page), proper questions from people – but it seems like only the Rev is answering, I’m sure he wouldn’t mind if some of you helped – serious stuff so its not really my type of string.

    334. Jim Thomson says:

      @Paula I hope that’s not you implying that Ronnie’s Hairy String(tm) is in any way the wrong sort…


    335. Jim Thomson says:

      That Wee Blue Book thread must have the most comments of any so far (apart from this august thread of course).

      I’ve managed to find a printing format that works for a small run of A5 sized booklets (and YES I DO KNOW that they are NOT designed for print and that the “really printable” ones are being published very soon). One has already gone to a neighbour who was delighted with the format.

      My poor wee semi-industrial stapler struggles with the number of sheets though (19 of them) but a wee bit of perseverance, and howking out the bent staples, aligning the “nearly” holes, and a second bash, seems to work for most.

      Basically, There are too many people out there waiting to be converted, or super-convinced, to wait for the “proper” printable versions.

    336. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Enjoyed our time up at Seafest over the weekend.

      Pete the Camera had bought a badge making machine so I had to tweak the design with the flying fish to get the correct size.

      Spent hours over Thursday, Friday and Saturday, getting it more or less right – and never noticed the typo until Sunday evening, when I took a photo of my own badge!


      So, there are 150 very exclusive badges out there, every one with the ‘exclusive’ typo.
      You can see it here:-

      I took a general pic of the stand on Sunday afternoon, after the rain.
      You can see it here:-

      Lastly, for Ronnie…
      The flying fish is “Cypsilurus katoptron”, also known as the Bleeker.

    337. Oneironaut says:

      @Brian Doonthetoon
      Should hang onto some of those typoed flying fish badges. They’ll probably be worth a fortune on E-Bay on Scottish Independence Day.
      Sort of like “Limited Editions” πŸ˜‰

      Just got back home a little while ago from a Yes public meeting in Irvine with Nicola Sturgeon (no fish jokes please!)

      The hall was completely mobbed with people. Had them packed in like sardines!
      (Dammit, I got fish on the brain now! Hehe)

    338. Paula Rose says:

      Um – if I type β€˜scottish independence’ into google or some such, I can’t click on Wings until I get to page 4. Am I right in thinking that the more times a link is clicked the higher it goes on the list?

    339. Ian Brotherhood says:

      This seems apt.

      New Order, ‘Blue Monday’ –

    340. Paula Rose says:

      Ian honey, do you find the ‘Aye Right’ leaflets the most useful?

    341. Thepnr says:

      Blue Monday right enough I’m off to bed. First though Donna Summer and “State of Independence”

    342. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Paula Rose –

      I’m sure that’s a trick question, but the answer is ‘yes’.

      (Then again, I’m a boy who can’t say ‘no’…)

    343. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Paula.

      Change your Google preferences to 100 hits per page and the first Wings hit is 8 or 9 clicks (below the scroll bar) down.

      Not sure how the ranking’s done…

    344. Paula Rose says:

      Brian dear it would make life easier if Wings was at the top, how many clicks would it need 250,000?

      Ian, I think we should find out who needs them and who has them and do a bit of supply and demand – as I believe they are no longer being printed in bulk.

    345. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Paula Rose –

      re Aye Right!

      Gavin Lessells is the man. I spoke to him at PQ2, and if memory serves there weren’t many left even then.

      If he sees this conversation he may update us.

      You there Gavin?!

    346. X_Sticks says:

      Sounds like you all had a ball on the fish stall. Great work guys, just sorry I couldn’t make it. Too busy having a ball at Belladrum as Quinie and Tartan Pigsy will testify.

      Bella was afire with the independence debate. Some stewards were trying to remove Yes stuff but by all accounts not having much success.

      As one guy I was speaking to said, though, “Ye dinna mak yer intentions known up here as ye could lose some freins, but maist folk are Yes”.

      Billy Bragg was excellent. Spent half of his set lecturing the audience on politics and why we must vote Yes. I caught his talk in the Verb Garden and he was followed by Tommy Sheridan who left no one in any doubt about his politics πŸ˜‰ The whole food arena in Bella could hear Tommy loud and clear, and many were in agreement. He got a couple of Bitters asking him questions and they were sent of with a flea in their ear. The audience loved it.

      Had some very good conversations and hopefully changed a couple of minds at least. There is no doubt in my mind that we can do this. The don’t knows seem to get easier to turn while the No’s just get angrier and angrier. I do worry for some of them, they are finding it difficult to cope.

      The WBB is going to help in the last push.

      Anyway, must get an early night, still shattered from lack of sleep.

    347. chipmonkey says:

      @Oneironaut – keep smiling, it’s catching :-)Hope you are feeling upbeat.
      @BrianDTT and Pete the Camera – apologies re my photos where I thought it was the previously mentioned badge machine revived. The ‘specials’ were great fun, typo n all. Thanks.
      @Ian Brotherhood I’m just a girl who cain’t say no. Just like Paula Rose.

      I’m also a bit predictable. (and the link probably won’t work since it’s me πŸ™‚ )

    348. chipmonkey says:

      See how people join in the crusade? Slowly at first then it builds to a crescendo when the beating of your heart… We don’t even need the martyrs.

    349. Paula Rose says:

      You know dears, having spent the weekend with the Order of the Hairy, Short and Curly String, I find I can understand things much better.

    350. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Paula Rose –

      Is that some kind of coded message to Thepnr, Ronnie A, and TT?

    351. Paula Rose says:

      Not at all dear though it is a bit of a mouthful – I’ll shorten it to OHSACS

      (titter, ohsacs – that could be what one types instead of b*****ks or b**ls)

    352. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Paula Rose –


      Let’s call the whole thing off.

    353. Paula Rose says:

      Ian dear OHSACS is a venerable institution, I would advise you to take instruction from Ronnie Anderson.

    354. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Paula Rose –

      If it’s the type of ‘instruction’ I think you’re referring to, thanks, but NOTHANKS.

    355. X_Sticks says:

      I might have guessed you’d get excited over a bit of rope Paula πŸ˜‰

    356. Ian Brotherhood says:



      in your search.

      First result on Google.


    357. Paula Rose says:


    358. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Paula Rose –


      Can it get any smaller?

    359. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Just tried


      and it delivers a pished-looking woman with a bottle of blue-coloured bevvy.

      How can we claim #weeblue ?

    360. Ian Brotherhood says:

      weeblues wobble but they don’t fall down…

    361. Michael McCabe says:

      Here is a relaxing piece of Music to listen to while reading the Wee Blue Book. Vote Yes.

    362. Patrician says:

      The first recorded sighting of the string was here: No wings event is now complete without the presence of the string, it doesn’t say much but its support of the cause is total.

    363. Patrician says:

      @Ian Brotherhood

      Whatever you do, don’t google bluebook :-S

    364. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Paula Rose nailed it –


      spray it everywhere…(as someone said to someone else, in a weeblue joke…)

    365. TJenny says:

      Just Googled weeblue and WOS Wee Blue Book came up first – wahya. πŸ™‚

      So here is a song for The Wee Blue Book. Unfortunately, I understand the delectable Bobby G is a unionist (he gave the game away at Glasto by wearing not only the fuschia jaiket, but the trews as well!) However, I’m sure a half hour or so with Paula Rose and I could maybe change his mind. πŸ™‚ Sigh, if only.

    366. gerry parker says:

      @ Patrician.
      Hairy String.

      We are already preparing for the second coming. There will be signs all over the land of its Majesty, and the naysayers will be flayed with it.

      PS. I’ve another spare ball of it in my Garage.


    367. Oneironaut says:

      Yep, I can keep myself cheered up as long as I have something I can distract myself with.
      (Not so difficult since I’m very easily distrac… ooo, look shiny thing! *chases*)

      Anyways, since there seems to be a distinctive “blue” theme going on, I’ll just leave this here:

      (Wonder if this is what people who read the newspapers think the average Wings night out looks like?) πŸ˜‰

    368. Jim Thomson says:

      Here’s my (a wee bit late) offering of photies from the weekend.

      I did a very quick and dirty photoshop (and yes, it is fully licensed) removal of the No Thanks purple board that terrible wife in the stand next to the Yes pitch kept shoving into the camera shot.

      If you want to keep any of the piccies, feel free but, be warned, they won’t stay in my Dropbox account for more than a few weeks.

    369. Jim Thomson says:

      I’d already discussed with Ronnie the probability that the Hairy String(tm) will be included in the new coat of arms for the reborn Scotland.

      Not sure what the armorial term would be though.

    370. Thepnr says:


      No link πŸ™‚

    371. The Man in the Jar says:

      Public meeting – open to all

      Venue – Uddingston Grammar School

      Date – 19th of August from 7 till 9:30

      Speakers – Graeme Sneddon (Generation Yes) Deborah Waters (Deputy leader Labour for Indi) Michelle Thomson (MD Business for Scotland) Robin McAlpine (Director Jimmy Reed foundation) last but not least Jim Sillars.

      Organised by Yes Uddingston and Bothwell.

    372. Thepnr says:


      Think we have a cameraman on the Courier on our side?

      Page 27 of the Dundee Courier today have a few pictures from Arbroath Seafest. In one of them they have a picture of some women and girls getting ready for a race.

      In the background is the Wings stall with three Yes Saltires flying and I can make out ronnie anderson, chipmunk, Quintin Quayle (chipmunks hubby) and Jim Thomson

      There is another figure that could be me, none are really recognisable unless you had been there and knew the people. I’ll maybe try and get a proper print.

    373. ronnie anderson says:

      @ Jim Thomson how in the name of the wee manny do I they photo’s from your dropbox, could,nt you just put them up I dont have a wordpress account.

    374. ronnie anderson says:

      @ Jim Thomson, the re-birth of Scotland & the armorial coat of arms (A Hairy Ambilical Cord) I,ll leave the building noo.

    375. ronnie anderson says:

      Has anyone got Ian Brotherhoods EMail addy please.

    376. Lesley-Anne says:

      Another great response there about the Β£4.5 Billion cut after a NO vote!

      What does this guy not get about PRIVATISATION cutting funds to NHS Scotland!

    377. Lesley-Anne says:

      Even the undecided panelist getting stuck in there with the NO House of Lord’s and Trident!

    378. Lesley-Anne says:

      JEEZ! Alexander is so totally confused that he is now accusing NO campaign of what he meant to accuse the YES camp of! MUPPET!

    379. Lesley-Anne says:


      NHS is NOT being privatised in England!

    380. Paula Rose says:

      Go Pussycat Go!!!

    381. No no no...yes says:

      Regarding BBC referendum Programme:
      Angus Robertson is giving Alexander a right doing on the Lib Dem manifesto on Barnett Formula.

    382. Paula Rose says:

      Don’t I’m having a meltdown.

    383. Paula Rose says:

      You were right – if we vote Yes they will threaten us with independence.

    384. Lesley-Anne says:

      Bags I get the prize for spotting the token Tory! πŸ˜›

    385. Paula Rose says:

      Token payment authorised.

    386. Lesley-Anne says:

      Ooh! Boris Johnson is a clown and THIS from McDougall! Whatever next McDougall votes YES!

    387. Paula Rose says:

      They’ll have googled ‘wee blue’.

    388. Lesley-Anne says:

      Nice rebuttal to Alexander you’ve given us poll tax and bedroom tax what ‘s the next tax?

    389. Lesley-Anne says:

      excellent point from audience member what are NO offering I know what YES is offering

    390. Paula Rose says:


    391. Lesley-Anne says:

      Keep going Danny you’re doing us PROUD! “I’m a proud Scot we’re better together! DOH!

    392. Lesley-Anne says:

      Ooh! Claire Field MASSIVE oil find question! Alexander confirms *cough cough* there is no new massive oil field finds being kept secret by Westminster”. Oh that right Danny oh look squirrels!

    393. Lesley-Anne says:

      Amazing how switched on this audience is. Scotland is the only country cursed for having oil!

    394. Paula Rose says:

      Hold on – we don’t need any new ones, look at what’s there already. Takes decades to plan, but already stuff is going ahead with what’s there.

    395. No no no...yes says:

      Audience defo Yes minded.
      Ken Stott quoting Cameron visit to shetland!

    396. Lesley-Anne says:

      Danny Alexander is definitively looking rattled there. πŸ˜›

    397. Paula Rose says:

      Yippee – two commentators, more please xx

    398. Lesley-Anne says:

      Good dig at the Tories and LibDems there. We didn’t vote for the Tories but got them anyway.

      Good old Alexander gets more groans from audience! πŸ˜›

    399. Paula Rose says:

      I’m off to listen to Andra – I’ll come back later xx

    400. No no no...yes says:

      Alexander doesnot feel guilty about the last two years. wow!

    401. Lesley-Anne says:

      Two weeks programme is in Edinburgh. then it goes to Aberdeen then ends up in Stirling the week before the referendum. Or something like that. πŸ˜›

    402. Wp says:

      Scotsman headline: Angus Robertson humiliated in BBC debate.

    403. Lesley-Anne says:

      I wonder what s***e Mr Neil will drag up. More importantly how long can I bear him and his nonsense before either a) I throw something at the T.V. or b) I switch over. πŸ˜›

    404. Paula Rose says:

      BBC 2 watch if you dare!!!

    405. Lesley-Anne says:

      Well I’m trying to do Paula, I’m still on BBC 2 so guess I haven’t heard anything untoward … YET! πŸ˜›

    406. Lesley-Anne says:

      What the hell is Neil going on about ‘British INDEPENDENT Nuclear deterent!” FFS

      Perhaps he’d like to explain how something that is DESIGNED, BUILT and has its LAUNCH CODES controlled from Washington is actually a BRITISH independent deterent!

    407. Mealer says:

      When the Claire find was mentioned,and Alexander said there was no new massive discovery,someone should have said “How can we believe you when you lied to us about oil reserves since ever it was discovered?” But all in all it was a pretty good debate.Its just a case of talking to people and giving them the confidence that we CAN run our own country better than London can.

    408. Lesley-Anne says:

      Nice to hear Lord McDonnell admit that a YES win could very well lead to a rethinking of Trident renewal. πŸ˜€

    409. Lesley-Anne says:


      Who the hell opened the door and let Curtice in?

    410. Tartan Tory says:

      BBC2 has been very good this evening. I always thought Andrew Neil was a unionist. He’s doing a good job of being a secret YES man so far…!

      Oh, wait a minute. Just discovered that even after a YES, we need an act of Westminster to ratify it…..

    411. Paula Rose says:

      Watching BBC2 as some one born in England – if I lived there now I would suddenly be filled with hope.

    412. Lesley-Anne says:

      I was wondering when our wee pet Nige was going to turn up tonight. Wonder no longer. πŸ˜›

    413. Bob Sinclair says:

      Don’t know if anyone else has noticed a massive spike in FB trolling from No’s. The latest tactic seems to be to appear initially to be asking polite questions but ignoring the answers / changing the subject.

      argh FFS Just saw Farage there, nightmares tonight.

    414. Indigo says:

      Wow that was a fantastic debate, well done the audience! I’m half an hour behind, should I keep watching Andrew Neil or switch over and keep my good mood?

    415. Bob Sinclair says:

      Right on schedule -a clip from Braveheart.

    416. Paula Rose says:

      My ancestor was Hereward the Wake.

    417. Paula Rose says:

      Watch BBC2 dears, I’m off to Utopia xx

    418. Lesley-Anne says:

      I have to admit I’ve lasted longer than I thought I would. πŸ˜‰ Mind you I was out the room for some time. πŸ˜›

    419. Lesley-Anne says:

      Oh Jeez, he’s back again!

      Oh NO! NOW we have the Orange Order marching!

      That’s it I’ve had enough of this s***e I’m awa!

    420. Tartan Tory says:

      New name for rUK post indy = ‘Little Britain’ πŸ™‚

    421. Paula Rose says:

      (T/T honey, we did that one a few formulas back)

    422. Tartan Tory says:

      Paula Darling! I was simply stating what was suggested on BBC2! They must have been reading Wings!!

    423. Tartan Tory says:

      Wow! I didn’t expect that from Andrew Neil or the BBC.

    424. Paula Rose says:

      T/T darling, can I have another ride?

    425. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      You guys seen this?

      Oil and Gas People has been watching the Independence debate from the fence and like many businesses felt it wasn’t in our best interest to back one side or the other.

      That has all changed with the negative campaigning the Better Together campaign have directed towards our industry with false information and outright lies misleading the people of Scotland.

      With this post we back the #yes campaign and get behind 64% of the industry who are voting YES to Independence.

      Without Oil and Gas Scotland can be a rich nation with it we can be one of the richest, no one knows the industry better than those who work in it and we all know that Oil and Gas will be around for a long time yet.

    426. Paula Rose says:

      I know they’re short, but they are curly and quite hairy!

    427. X_Sticks says:

      Lesley-Anne says:

      “Who the hell opened the door and let Curtice in?”

      I thought he lived under a rock at PQ?

    428. Paula Rose says:

      @ Brian Doonthetoon – I’m not sure we want all those lubricated people.

    429. Tartan Tory says:

      @ Brian Doonthetoon (& everyone else)

      If you see me on the oil & gas people page Brian has linked to (look for the jumping car + ‘Yes’ pic), can you send me a friend request. I’m feeling a bit lonley!!! πŸ˜‰

    430. Paula Rose says:

      Tartan Tory darling – go here I guarantee lots of hugs, just tell Mama Puffin I sent you…

    431. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Ronnie A –

      You were looking for my e-mail address?

      ian [at] stevenston4 [dot] fsnet [dot] co [dot] uk

    432. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Sounds like there was some interesting ‘telly’ on this evening, and Beaker figured prominently. Not having seen it, I can only wonder what fantastic pish he was coming out with…

      And the final wheel came off Jim Murphy’s wagon?

    433. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Murphy can guarantee a decent turnout for his remaining ‘100 Towns’ gigs if he presents himself in stocks, and invites citizens to throw unmentionables at him.

      (Do coconuts count as fruit?)

    434. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Here’s hoping we go through 4000 O/T comments with some suitably upbeat music…

      Simple Minds, ‘I Travel’ (1980) –

    435. Paula Rose says:

      As if I would do such a thing!

    436. Paula Rose says:

      I won’t be around at 3:42 am, but here is my contribution to all you lovely people…

    437. Paula Rose says:

      Ian honey – so it’s 50 odd tracks of Scottish genius…

    438. Thepnr says:

      Here’s my contribution to myself. Happy Birthday!

    439. Thepnr says:

      Nobody here at home to sing it! so join in friends.

    440. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Thepnr –

      Happy birthday to you mister. Lang may yer lum reek.

      (I wonder what you’d like as a present? Hmmm…)

    441. Tartan Tory says:

      Happy Birthday Alex. I’ll get Paula to deliver a birthday kiss to you! πŸ˜‰

    442. Lesley-Anne says:

      Happy birthday Thepnr from me and my partner. πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜›

    443. Paula Rose says:

      13th of September – but the nearest I could get…

    444. TJenny says:

      Happy Birthday Thepnr xxxxs. πŸ™‚

    445. Paula Rose says:

      Oh go on open my present xx

    446. Paula Rose says:

      ps Thepnr – that is to be part of the wings library.

    447. ronnie anderson says:

      @ Happy birthday Alex

    448. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Paula Rose –

      Aw, come on, stay up until we hit the big 4K, eh?

    449. ronnie anderson says:

      @ Ian Brotherhood can I have your Email addy I have a Badge & Embroidered Badge to send to you.

    450. Thepnr says:

      @Paula Rose

      What a great present! Thank you very much.

      I know others will be saying “what is it?”

      Well it’s a book “A History of the Working Classes in Scotland”. Never knew such a thing existed, I will definitely read it from cover to cover.

      Thanks xx.

    451. Paula Rose says:

      Ian darling – have you been inducted into the OHSACS?

    452. Paula Rose says:

      Ronnie dear, do you have some hairy string for Ian?

      Thepnr – I couldn’t afford Madonna’s opus.

    453. X_Sticks says:

      Happy Birthday Thepnr πŸ˜€

      Have you seen this?

      Way to go Dundee (and Motherwell)

      And just to put a final smile on your face before I head for the horizontal..

      Night all.

    454. ronnie anderson says:

      @ Paula Rose that vidio at 11.59 would tear the arse oota the trousers, you on the rid biddy again lol

    455. Michael McCabe says:

      Happy Birthday PNR Hope You have a Great Day.

    456. Thepnr says:

      Haha X-Sticks

      Blair does not look happy. Well he never does, why does he always look worried, like a deer caught in the headlights?

    457. Paula Rose says:

      Ronnie honey – Ivor Cutler, I didn’t ken you were a fan xx

    458. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Hi Ronnie,

      Thepnr sent it to you, but just in case:

      ian [at] stevenston4 [dot] fsnet [dot] co [dot] uk

      Hoots mon!

    459. Paula Rose says:

      Oh btw Thepnr, handle with kid gloves, both Douglas Young and Hamish Henderson have handled that very same tome xx

    460. Thepnr says:

      @Michael McCabe

      Still class, how do you find these??

      Thanks all for the kind wishes. My next birthday will be celebrated in an Independent Scotland. If we could bottle the enthusiasm, intelligence and dare I say love for our own people that can be found on this site.

      We would only need a tiny drop in the air to convert a crowd of No’s to Yes. We will win because our heart is so much bigger.

    461. Paula Rose says:

      I like to give the lad a decent pressie!

    462. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Paula Rose –

      I’ve never been invited…(:

      If it helps my application, I did once locate, on my person, a pubic hair which was very nearly a foot long. I kept it as a bookmark, but lost it years ago. (Someone in an Ayrshire charity-shop in the past decade or so must’ve got a truly horrible surprise…)

    463. ronnie anderson says:

      @Paula Rose Yes gerry has a full ball, but I was planning to hing the bunting up at Rory the Torys opening ceromony, ah wiz waiting nearer the time to do a shity nickers / pants collection I wonder if indigo would do a crowdfund.

    464. Thepnr says:

      @Ian Brotherhood & ronnie anderson

      FFS nearly choked on ma swally! Jist stoap it! LOL

    465. Michael McCabe says:

      @ Thepnr You always need a cake for a Birthday. Vote Yes.

    466. Thepnr says:

      @Paula Rose

      I’ve always wondered what happens after Stan & Ollie walk through that door.

      Bit like the door to our freedom after Independence.

    467. Paula Rose says:

      Everytime I meet you dear

      Nightie night xx

    468. Thepnr says:

      @Michael McCabe

      How’d you get all those Wingers to co-operate for the shoot, Paula was a stand out πŸ™‚

    469. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Not sure what’s weirder – what this guy can do with his voice, or his hips:

      Future Islands, ‘Seasons (Waiting On You)’, (Live) –

    470. ronnie anderson says:

      @ Thepnr cling film that laptop mair on the way.

    471. Adrian B says:

      Quick straw poll to take part in and share:

    472. ronnie anderson says:

      @Michael McCabe FFS Michael ElO ah need tae go an get another power card the meters run oot.

    473. Michael McCabe says:

      @ Thepnr Can these folks crash your party ? They say they have a Message. Vote Yes.

    474. Thepnr says:

      Listen to the words, nothing changes.

      We can make it change though and we are doing. What a time to be alive.

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