Last Call
Click the image or here to go to the fundraiser page.
Click here to donate directly by other means.
.
Total at 9am, 18 June: £169,266. Last 24 hours: £6,357
(Includes donations from all sources)
.
When we launched our 2018 crowdfunder, more than 14 months ago, we said “this is probably the last time we’re going to ask you to put your hands in your pockets”. This is one of the very rare occasions that one of our predictions has turned out wrong.
We said it because Brexit was supposed to be signed off by the UK Parliament last October, giving the EU a few months to ratify the withdrawal agreement and have the UK leave by March 29 this year, and so we expected that one way or another the chips would be down and we’d all know where we stood regarding a second independence referendum (and hopefully be campaigning in it).
Alert readers may have spotted that that didn’t happen.
The UK government’s monumental incompetence has now postponed the withdrawal agreement by (at least) a full year to THIS October, which has had the knock-on effect of delaying the Scottish Government’s independence strategy by the same amount of time. So here we all are again.
We’ve been putting off the crowdfunder in the hope of some clarity arriving, but as deadline after deadline has passed and Westminster has failed and failed again to reach any sort of conclusion, we’ve come to a point where neither we nor Scotland can afford to wait any longer, and we need to get on with it.
Because the clock is very much ticking, folks. At the time of writing this, the current Scottish Parliament with its pro-independence majority has under two years to run, and polling suggests that hanging onto that majority past 2021 is at best on a knife-edge.
(Readers fostering a sense of complacency over recent polls might do well to ponder significant events due to happen later this year which are, to put it delicately, unlikely to play out in a manner helpful to the SNP.)
Despite these facts, no steps have been taken in the three years since the Brexit vote to secure the legal right for Holyrood to hold a referendum, a process which would almost certainly be a lengthy one.
(Particularly if you also factor in the amount of time that would be needed to organise a vote should the right be obtained. The Scottish Government has at least announced its intention to have the legislation ready in advance, but you still need time to arrange the vote and have a campaign, which means several months more.)
So what we certainly can’t afford to do is just sit around and blindly hope for the UK government to have an inexplicably magnanimous change of heart. Because clearly, the higher that support for independence grows the less likely they are to concede a referendum voluntarily. They only gave us the last one because they were confident they’d win it, and they aren’t confident any more.
We also need to be prepared to act swiftly should circumstances change suddenly, such as in the event of a UK general election.
——————————————————————————————-
So there it is. You know what we do and how we work by now. Wings Over Scotland is the most-read Scottish politics website on the planet (we get more traffic* than the next FIVE biggest sites combined), the only one that Unionists fear and the only one they constantly smear.
There are no cosy regular punditry gigs on BBC or STV for us, no nice respectable newspaper columns. We get arrested, harassed, threatened, smeared and defamed by politicians and the Unionist media, and we have our web presences shut down. We get attacked with a ferocity and in ways that no other pro-independence voice does. We can only carry on because of your incredible support.
Any money you send us will be split as usual between running costs, commissioning polls, a wage for myself and contributors like our magnificent near-weekly cartoonist Chris Cairns, and the building up of the Wings Fighting Fund with the aim of printing a million-plus copies of a new Wee Blue Book when a second referendum comes along, along with other major secret campaigning projects we’re working on.
Some will also have to be used in respect of our court case against Kezia Dugdale, either to pay costs or to file an appeal against the judgement, but that decision will only be taken after consultation with readers.
(As always, we have some tokens of gratitude for our donors, seen in the image below – an engraved credit-card-sized multipurpose tool in metal, a handy mini tin perfect for carrying earphones or charging cables (and delivered to you full of tasty mints), a mug, a sturdy weekend bag, a stylish engraved hip flask set and this year’s Wings enamel badge in a rather classy white, black and silver design.)
As always, whether Wings Over Scotland continues for another year rests entirely in your hands. We’re ready to keep fighting for you. Let us know if that’s what you want.
*stats from SimilarWeb, April 2019.
Done. By the way Colin Alexander, let me know when you have made your contribution, and I mean financial wise not bollocks wise, as I know you are a big supporter of the Independence cause.
Donated.
Rising panic in the unionist camp. Jack McConnell calls for a second chamber to police Holyrood, Henry McLeish calls for a more PR voting system to stop the SNP getting so many seats and the trio Stephen Kerr, Alistair Carmichael and Ian Murray want a new Scottish Czar to rule over us.
So donation made to ensure monetising fund continues. When you get your daily column in the MSM and BBC news show, I’ll take it you are as well funded as the “healthy” journalists..
Got to dash, I’ll chip in later!
Large donation will be winging its way down to you shortly.
Done
More than happy to have donated this morning. WE won’t let the b*ggers grind us down.
Done my wee bit as I know you will use it well Stu
A couple of quid from a well worn pocket, but worth it. 😉
Britain = ENGERLAND.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/may/12/what-does-archie-tell-us-about-mixed-race-britain
Actually, it tells ‘us’ not much. Just spin.
Donated.
Done, though I don’t want any gifts beyond continued analysis on this site.
Will be done today!
Worth every penny for the excellent work you do and would hope that the many, many thousands of people who, like me, rarely if ever post but read Wings to get the truth you don’t get elsewhere, chip in what they can afford, for a truly worthwhile asset to the cause for independence. PS I wish I could afford the hip flask. ?
done
Done. With much gratitude to you sir!
Donation made. Will target be reached in 24hrs?
Donated.
Stu will go down in history as the man who called out the Westminster Unionist establishment and more than any other individual helped to bring about a normal self governing Scotland.
Donated…and will again and again until it happens.
How can the list of donors be displayed?
Donated in spite of Paypal now wanting a password.
No IS the time
Sending my donation now!
Rev, you seriously need to look at giving yourself a pay rise.
Take it as you more than earn every single penny.
Please do not mention what an inflationary rise adds up to
Or I’m sure the Media, Dick Leonard, Dippy Dug and Wee Winkie
Will turn it into Millionaire Blogger/ Trouble maker cons pensioners
With on-line scam.
As well as sending over some funds, I want to thank you sincerely
For your resilience your dedication and your first class investigative
Journalism skills.
Without you I’d be blind to the truth and oblivious to the perpetual attack on Scotland
By Westminster and its many forms of corruption.
Thank You!
Can’t we have the hip flask on its own??? That is the desired item (but I guess REV knows that).
Credit card tool and tin it is then…
For hard factual analysis ,and debunking of the same old repeated British Nationalist lies. Worth every penny.
Donation sent: keep up the good work. Still much to resolve.
Bunged a few quid in, bit more than the £20.00 promised.
Thank you again. Is there any way that donors’ comments can be seen via the fundraiser site?
Donated. Well worth it.
Hi Rev,
I just qualified for some Wings Gifts.
If it isn’t a logistical nightmare for you
I’d rather you retained them as they obviously
Cost you. This and the postage I’d rather see you
Retaining for the cause.
Thank you for the generous offer though!
Donated. Still an avid reader and worth every penny.
Hope it goes well.
Thank goodness you can use paypal this year, I dislike having to give my financial details to various online companies. How mini is this mini tin, are those paracetamol pills or pan drops?
What Donate AGAIN?
Certainly. It would be rude not to.
That badge looks awfully nice. I will get onto this later when I fire up the old gas powered laptop.
A veritable widow’s mite, i am afraid, as I am skinto McGlinto.
WOS speaking truth to power has kept me alive over the past five years, I just don’t know how I’d have coped otherwise.
Truly a principled voice among a den of liars and thieves.
You wrote, “secure the legal right for Holyrood to hold a referendum”. Under International Law, Holyrood has the right to resile the Treaty of Union and the Act of Union. Craig Murray has written about it.
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/12/the-scottish-parliament-does-have-the-right-to-withdraw-from-the-act-of-union/?fbclid=IwAR1qusDGh12Jqivd6-GcnVSaOF3iy9loIUepK5da2W5Fl5hHZ4k82pwyJdI
i think that the Act of Union Bill in the Lords, Gove’s threat to take more financial power away, from Holyrood the three mouscateers banding together to have a constitutional revision for the UK are increasing the urgency for Holyrood to act.
I wonder if the matter will need to be taken out of the hands of the SNP. Perhaps the Scottish Independence Convention or All Under One Banner could take it uo and organise a People’s Referendum with or without the support of the SNP?
Wee bit o’ cash chipped in, Rev. Not a lot but if I have a better month I’ll chip in some more at the end of May.
“this is probably the last time we’re going to ask you to put your hands in your pockets”
Hilarious!
Hoefully you won’t be saying that 10 years from now as Brexit still won’t have happened with PM Farage in his second term. (Frightening, innit).
Donation made – all power to you Stu, keep fighting the good fight!
Done
Done
Always happy to Help.
Oh we can’t see the names rolling over as contributions join the kitty. How disappointing.
I love imagining that every reader is sticking two fingers up to Westminster as their payment is added to the kitty. It feels more real if there’s a name to go with it.Guess I’ll just have to work the imagination that much harder today.
Donation done.
In discussion with financial adviser as to amount I want to donate.
I expect to win the argument! 😀 😀 😀
How much is our freedom worth? Contributed but wish I could do more!
Donated and worth every penny. Thank you for all that you do 🙂
What´s a Credit Card Tool ?
Asking for a thousand friends who don´t know what one is either.
Sent a donation meantime!
Thank ye fir aw ye dae…
uno mas
Click on picture of tool to see it in all its glory!
What time did the fundraiser start?
Just so’s we can boast on Twitter, FB etc about how fast it’s going.
That’s £17,760 in as I write…
😉
Donated , always worth every penny !!
Excellent, the Wings Over Scotland Fundraiser 2019 has begun!
SO that’s our European elections 2019 campaigning and our Wings crowdfunder 2019 both active and trending at the same time, Yes 🙂
Let’s get this wrapped up for tea time everybuddy
Vote for Scotland on the 23rd
Ian:
Think it was 8am.
Morning Ian B, twas just after eight, cheers bro
Donated. Thanks for all you do, Stu.
UNO MAS( 10.14) ask: ”What is a Credit Card tool ? ”
It’s all the Tory MSPs who keeping taking our money but want to shut Scotland down !
Donation made !
membership cancelled so £12 going to the fund . no hats or caps ?
For my sins this is my first donation (been a lurker since 2014). These last years has been a complete shit-show and you sure have to put up with a lot of crap. So although I’m late to the fundraising party am now paying my dues. I’ll put more in the pot before the fundraiser expires.
Keep up the good work – we need our independence bloggers and grassroots to force the SNP out of their state of complacency, the clock is sure ticking down.
Appreciate all you do.
Cheers all.
8.00 a.m.?
£21,768 in the pot, so that’s…er, give us a minute…that’s…a lot!
At this rate it could be £25k by 11.00 and that’s the half-way mark.
Remarkable.
Donated via your bank transfer – would really like another badge !!!
Donation made and looking forward to your continued searing analysis.
Done. We were *REALLY* skint last year and couldn’t afford much so I’ve added a bit extra this year. You’re worth every sweary, ranty fucking penny. Now is the fucking time
just donated Stu. I don’t don’t know how you do this job, day in and day out. I couldn’t do it, no matter how much you offered me.
Many thanks Rev, you’re well worth every penny. Will chip in again if needed. Cheers.
£50 paid direct
more to follow, if needed
gerritupthem 😉
Pensioner and compulsive lurker who looks in at least once a day. Just contributed to your fundraiser in addition to my small monthly DD. You are invaluable, thanks.
Unionists will be spitting blood at the success of this fundraiser. Just watch as they fume when it reaches target in a few hours. Worth donating just for that.
Done. Though I’ll keep an eye on progress to target & chip in some more if need be. Keep up the fantastic work.
Subscription set up Rev. Worth every single penny and then more.
It’s refreshing reading your articles because they are nothing but true, rather than from a purely political standpoint or worse still,self interest.
You could teach many journalists how their job should be done here in Scotland. . Sadly though ,they overlook the truth to push propoganda for their beloved Union rather than fact.
Donated.
Halfway to £50k in three hours. It would be nice to beat last year’s total, whatever that was.
Don’t know how others feel, but if Rev Stu incurs legal costs from the defamation case, I think we should have a separate fundraiser. Keeping WoS focused on the big prize of Indy would be my preference.
Ah need tae consult The hole in the wa . Ill get back tae U Rev when ah hiv the balance in ma account .
Tenner in the pot from me, money well spent!
Donated and tweeted. So pleased to see Cllr Chris McEleny supporting it on Twitter. Out and proud.
Just donated, plus the cost covering bit. Can’t do much else from over here, sadly!
Donated again – ironically funded by my first state pension payment.
Just done.
Getting really pissed off at higher ups in SNP.
The amount of slagging off of supporters and colleagues is unreal.
The bitches, we know who they are, seem to be looking forward to Alex S trial, even though it might not get that far.
Being saying for a while now, Nicola was handed a party with 100K members on a plate and has managed to do virtually nothing since then except play identity politics.
I’m beginning to wish she does take a job at the UN
God knows what will happen but fingers crossed
One_Scot
Thanks for the name check. So nice of you to think of me.
As a genuine supporter of independence, I value the important contribution Wings Over Scotland makes to the cause.
So,I’ve donated.
———————–
Stu, Good luck with the Fundraiser and keep up the good work.
Jeez £28k before noon they britnats will be boaking
WELL done tae All yous Lurkers for your contributions to the crowdfunder I see some of yous are saying your pensioners , there’s nae discounts Not in this game ( wee play oan Brucie ) . Be well we hiv a bit tae go yet .
Glad to help Stu.
Donated.
Donated.
Happy to donate again. Every £ a nail in the Unionist coffin!
Many thanks Stu.
Donated. Your efforts are very much appreciated. You stand head and shoulders above the rest.
Donated. I’ve never heard of a credit card tool either, had to ecosia it.
Okay, I give up – has somebody maybe sabotaged the Paypal route? I’ve just completed more than six check screens – bridges, traffic lights, crosswalks, storefronts and more – and all I get is another one, and another one. Will try again later, but to my suspicious mind the endless blind alley smells a bit.
Hope my little £10.62 donation helps free us from the Westminster tyranny.
Donated, for the last time, I hope.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmqK4teMg98
Over £30K now
Just for the Britnats keeping an eye on us:
Brilliant to see £30,000.00 in for Noon on Launch Day!
Even better that it’s from ordinary hard working tax papers puting
In what they can. Non some non Dom tax dodging Tory Millionare.
Over Lunch time, those who hope for their future generations in an Independent Scotland will
Be digging deep or they will never be able to live with themselves!
Worth every penny!
Austerity biting deep round these parts Stu, but I’ve given what I can. Wings has been the greatest voice for Scotland throughout our struggle, let’s get over the line this time. Many thanks for your courage and integrity. And all the laughs too, of course!
Worthwhile cause, keep up the good work.
Thats mine in a pity its not more might win the lottery so can give more.
Done.
Worth every penny.
Stopped donating to Wings, I tried to move on, SNP have pissed me off big time, only 2 things I want, 1st self-determination, 2nd booting SNP out of our parliament, so back to donating to Wings again, still voting SNP, as they say vote till you puke, shame the only party to vote for gives me the dry boak.
Just dinged over £32K – one of my favourite pastimes watching the Wings fundraiser fly!!! 🙂
Done but you’re dreaming if you think this’ll be the last call for funds – next year maybe, & I’ll keep the big donation until then…
Also – put an option in for the hipflask on its own, say £250 or so. I think you’ll find you get more donations at that level rather than getting a “weekender bag” 😉
Also peeps should note there’s a £6 processing fee on CC payments – not great but just do the decent thing & pay it.
Ahh, that feels better..
More power to your elbow Stu 🙂
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/17634880.former-fm-jack-mcconnell-we-need-a-second-chamber-to-police-holyrood/?ref=mr&lp=4
Police = inhibit, check, constrain. [Citizens Assembly] wonder where he got that notion from?
Talk, talk, so much easier than making a decision.
It is the rôle of the politician to bore the elector with the consummate banality of his ‘wisdom’.
It is the only qualification required and the British variety has doctorates in it.
”Stopped donating to Wings, I tried to move on, SNP have pissed me off big time, only 2 things I want, 1st self-determination, 2nd booting SNP out of our parliament, so back to donating to Wings again, still voting SNP, as they say vote till you puke, shame the only party to vote for gives me the dry boak.”
You’re mistaking the Wings fundraiser for the Scotsman! Maybe you should double check your bearings.
@ Colin Alexander
Of course you´ve donated.
This site closes down and you´ll have to get yourself a proper job.
Can you imagine if you didn’t contribute what you can and you find
Nigel Farage as Prime Minister with Bungling Boris-Hater of the Scots, his Chancellor and how about Gove as the Scottish Secretary of State?
Mrs May could be sent to Orkney in exile.
Lord Carmichael the Lair could be her probation officer?
Your kids will be applying for a North Korean Passport and some direction from the real Kim Jun Un.
It is essential that we put in yet another record breaking year!
S.O.S. Save Our Scotland.
how much do 1 million wbb’s cost?
have you already started to write wbb2? or at least have an outline stu?
Ok Rev hole in the wa say’s am solvent tae next pension day, so’s monies Winging its way tae U Onwards an Upwards .
Ha Ha to the person who posted a reply to my post, my view, my right, get a life.
I’ve got a life, grump.
Happy to donate in the sure knowledge I will get value for money. Keep up the excellent work!
Donation made, keep up the good work
Done. I’ll soon find out what a credit card tool is.
IF you ever wondered why the Scottish Paliment was really created byLabour….https://www.electricscotland.com/independence/uncommittee.htm
Got “Scottish Labour” euro leaflet published in London printed in Wales so much for devolving powers and business to Scotland
Donated. Because we’re worth it 😀
Over £37,000 when I donated!
Has Duncan Hothersall not made his spite filled comment about us all being so gullible yet? He is usually so good at giving wingers an excuse to add another tenner or something.
C’mon Duncan, get yer finger oot!
@ sinky,
“Got “Scottish Labour” euro leaflet published in London printed in Wales so much for devolving powers and business to Scotland”
Has anyone got a free-post address for ‘Scottish’ Labour?
All unsolicited mail-drops containing lies should be returned to free post addresses with the lies pointed out.
After only 6 hours, the fundraiser stands at £37,657.
This amount is already more than both Wings’ first campaign in 2013, and the Wee Black Book fundraiser!
Next target to reach and surpass is the current ‘Last Call’ goal of £50,000.
After that comes the £59,661 raised in 2014 for the Wee Blue Book.
Phew, that ‘recycled fiver’ is being made to do a lot of work! 🙂
Just donated, many thanks to you Stu
Keep donating folks, Wings makes unionists go weak at the knees and makes their brains explode in anger. Don’t be like historywoman or Duncan, believe in Scotland and its own abilities.
Just donated direct by BACS. It is a great feeling to show all the awful liars how much we appreciate the Rev.
Thank you, Rev. You are brave and very very clever. I will continue to press the case for you to be an advisor to the SNP’s campaign, along with our other brilliant bloggers. They need all the help they can get! [They perhaps just don’t realise it yet…]
Just one thing – isn’t the target a bit low? Too easy for us to reach within only a few hours?
@Sarah
Never set the target too high, it will just be a MSM headline if it is not reached. The Rev always breaks the target gets them really annoyed. Not reaching the target was one of the headlines for the SNP independence fund raiser, the MSM had no end of joy with it.
Lol, yeah right, and even if you did donate a pound as a token gesture I bet it was painful.
uno mas said:
13 May, 2019 at 12:55 pm
@ Colin Alexander
“Of course you´ve donated.
This site closes down and you´ll have to get yourself a proper job”.
Sorry, I honestly don’t know what you are talking about.
Done, least I could do.
Donated and Wings fund now at £40,000. Let’s do this and ignore the party / Yes infighting. The cause is more important than any individual’s ego.
@jfngw: I like to think there’s no target we wouldn’t reach for Wings!
I also like to picture the writhing and groaning in certain quarters as Wings funding pours in…
That’s my two bob in.
I’ll always donate but the triumvirate of twerps trying to act like hard men last week and the ongoing brattery of the wokebeards and wokemuffs made this transaction extra special. Fuck, I even added the extra one pound twenty they were after. 🙂
All the best.
Received the Labour EU election campaign guff this morning. It is a classic example of recycling. There is one small section devoted to the EU/Brexit the rest is just a repeat of previous Labour election material. It looked as if it was wishing this was a general election. That said Labour’s position is so vague one can understand their reticence in discussing Brexit.
One_Scot
Every penny counts; it all adds up.
If anyone donates a pound, I say: good for them, especially if that’s all they can afford. So, no snidey remarks from me about it.
I’m sure all donations are gratefully received.
I gave with a glad heart, hope you did too.
Have a nice day.
Westminster, let me tell you that
We are the small axe, sharp and ready
Ready to cut you down!
Happy to support. This is the “End-time”, I hope! Let’s finish this job
Smallaxe – yay, you’re back – I’d wondered where you’d gone.
Just about to donate. Is there anything better than watching the Wings’ fundraiser soar? Well, apart from being indy of course. 😉
Donation in. Here is hoping that this is the year it all kicks off 🙂
Donors to Wings
See the front page of the crowdfunder -top right in the white section says Donor Wall in light blue text-click for the list of donors
I’ve been wondering about Nicola’s tweet “Now is the time”.
Was that meant to be THE call, the fiery cross to summon us?? Should we all be hastening to Holyrood or Bute House?
If so, we are all rather slow on the uptake! Perhaps the message needs to be sent again a bit clearer…
Done
Correction it only gives the last few donors & their comments, can’t find any way of expanding the list.
Sarah
No it was her reaction to the news that Farage was being punted by MSM & Tv pundits for PM. Doesn’t bear thinking about!
@ Sarah 13 May, 2019 at 3:10 pm :
“I’ve been wondering about Nicola’s tweet “Now is the time”.
Was that meant to be THE call, the fiery cross to summon us?? Should we all be hastening to Holyrood or Bute House?”
Wouldn’t have thought so for even a millisecond.
Were Joanna Cherry FM then the train is booked 🙂
Smallaxe , lovely to see you there , and hello Sybil!
Ain’t the fundraiser just wickedly grand!
Almost there in half a day.
I think you need to tick the box if you want your donation/comment to appear on the donor wall. If you want your name up, just make another donation and tick the box.
Keep donating, remember how the Norwegians felt, you too can recapture this moment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqZTP8-8wIs
@Lollysmum and Vestas: Thanks for clearing that up. I thought I’d missed the boat! Mind you I do wish the boat would loosen the mooring ropes at least.
Was wondering when the fund raiser was pencilled in. Should have been February, per usual. With everything else happening. It is even more important now.
Donations required to the SNP, EU campaign, Independence live, National subscription, Now a possible big car repair bill. May is turning into an expensive month. Even though it’s sunny for less expensive heating bills. Things worth fighting for are never easy.
Wings more than worth. Thanks a billion. Go get ‘em Rev Stu. Donations flying in. Wings soaring over Scotland. Keeping people sane. Thanks once again. Genius. Worth every penny and more.
Its been a while since the last Wings fundraiser – so long in fact it was pre-GDPR.
Basically your name won’t be made public unless you choose to comment and haven’t ticked the “Anonymous” box.
Goodness the last fund raiser total was £153,215. Great, Hope this one tops it.
Exciting
Donation made. Hope it upsets sundry unionists and certain SNP high heid yins.
Will be on it when get home tonight.
Probably will have reached target by then
Just donated. Best investment of the year.
Absolutely no chance at the moment, hospital and rested for 2 weeks so what little income comes in at the time of year I should be earning for the whole year means every penny goes on the table at the moment, including trying to afford foods for hbp.
So I’m in in spirit, but not in £££ yet a while.
Donated because you’re worth it! ?
Someone’s no’ very happy….
https://i.imgur.com/ApqkWTL.jpg
Done.
@yesindyref2
Hope things get better soon. We’re near the total anyway.
Hop over to phantom power YouTube channel and you can watch last weeks MMT talks in Glasgow.
O/T It seems that the snp civil war 2 is well under way.
Delighted to donate – keep up the good work
Will check the total when back from “Franco country”, will chuck in pessos if needed.
Stu, expect the Yoon media to go Tonto at another crowd funder.
I am missing all the politics at the moment, I need an update for the SNP bashing, Internet not reliable.
Should we run a sweep on when the first Headline of Outrage appears in the MSM at all these ‘separatists’ funding division in our united ‘country ‘ ?
Ruthie and Dugdale will be appalled at this misuse of money when it could have been funding their sinecures !
.
Stuart,
Did you just raise £48,238.12 in 8 hours with 884 donations?
And the Unionists say there is NO appetite for a second Scottish independence referendum.
Yoons be cacking their pants.
Awesome Rev.
At 16:36 only around £1200 short of target. Come on now if we make it before 18:00 I’m pretty sure it will be a Rep Scot headline. Only kidding, more likely to get a SNPGood headline.
Donation made; can’t emphasise enough how valuable your incisive and forensic shredding of myths and lies peddled via MSM [and politicians] is.
Keeping our eye on the goal is the main thing and you have a huge part to play in that. Many thanks for all you do
Donated appreciate this site which along with WGD keeps me going in difficult times. Don’t full y agree with Rev about next Holyrood election. However I have been involved with this cause since Winnie Ewing won in Hamilton. The movement has had peaks and troughs before but when the tide has ebbed it has never gone back fully and we didn’t have WOS.
Less than 1k to go to reach target. Can it be done by, I dunno, 18.00? Yeah. 🙂
If you listen closely, you can hear Yoon heids exploding.
Boom! 50K
Talking to some “southern shire cousins” over here today, even they are “getting an Indy Scotland”. I told them they are welcome to move to Scotland when the time comes.
It looks like England is FKd.
On a lighter note, French couple opened arms when realising we were Scottish, in broke tongue said Scotland is rich, Farages England is bankrupt, who said European politics is dull?
Passed the £50K
The ‘Court of St James’ has a new Saudi ambassador. Eton, Oxford, Sandhurst married to niece of the ‘Duke of Northumberland’ and cousin of ‘Crown prince Muhammad bin Salman’, the ‘liberal’ and the one bombing hell out of Yemen, and getting away with it.
Nothing much changes in Ukania. The rogues, parasites and hypocrites flock together.
Why is the SNP not republican?
And now the total is…drumroll…£50,320.71. Yeeha. 🙂 😉
Fanbloodytastic!
Jings helpmaboab! Target reached! 🙂
Our new washing machine has a program that is – I kid you not, “suitable for lightly soiled underwear” 🙂
No good for the Unionists then.
No donation gets you Wee Shouty Truthless Harrison as First Minister,
Mundell the Beard Muncher Head of Finance and Turkish Barbers.
In order to get her motions passed that Dick Leonard gets to in charge of Scotland’s Trains
So that they run as badly as Labour’s Welsh train set.
Wee Willie Winkie Rennie will be in charge of running ’round the town
Telling us how bad Scotland is.
Pay up or it becomes reality !
Pop, pop,pop, go the yoonatic brains across Scotland, as REV STU demonstrates yet again just how much of a desire their is for independence.
Good to see NS offering support to Joanna Cherry. Hopefully an end to the previous behaviour of just chucking folk ‘under the bus’ at the first sign of ‘issues’/accusations, whether true or false.
Nicely done. 🙂
Onwards and upwards folks. Let’s keep it coming. Independence is above price and this guy helps to make it happen
Donation made.
Well done for hitting target hit in less than 8 hours, that will greatly upset some super zoomer golfers I know south of Preston.
Yesindyref2 at 3.55
Sorry to hear about your illness. Made my contribution just now and doubled the amount as you aren’t able. Get well soon!
Make no mistake, the yoonatics will be watching how this goes. The higher the results, the better from an independence perspective.
Finally got it dided and Donated past the £51 grand
@ Smallaxe 2.41pm
Good to see you. 🙂
Shared on Yes pages so lets hope we get a boost in donators
£52,886.57
This is going to really p***off them all and its not finished yet.
Passed the goal, cue the sheep branding label from the unionist twitteraty, come on Duncan you know you want to.
“Harder than you think”! Bringing about progressive social change was never going to be easy. Being declared a ‘public enemy’ suggests you’re doing something right, frankly. 😉
eprints.lse.ac.uk/950/1/Criticalpsychology.pdf
Smallaxe – great to hear from you again. Still have my t-shirt, Scotland the Brave not Scotland the Slave and a little embroidered axe on the side.
Well done to all contributors and keep up the good work Stu.
Well, I am glad to say that I’ve donated to WOS for the first time. 🙂
Been a rough few years for me, and this site kept me sane when I was unemployed and obsessed with the EU referendum fallout. Hardly ever comment on here but I read every day. Dinna hae wise words or anything, just want to say thanks to Stu and all the insightful posters who gather here. Keep the faith! When the time comes I will not be able to contribute with a vote; however, I am fortunate enough now that I can help with some cash.
Smallaxe, met you at Bannockburn…………nice to hear from you again.
The problem with the English:
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/the-problem-with-the-english-england-doesn-t-want-to-be-just-another-member-of-a-team-1-4851882
http://www.manchesteruniversitypress.co.uk/9781526117731/
Be under no illusion, we are shackled to a vicious animal.
I thought this might be of interest to some.
shura.shu.ac.uk/3538/1/Chapter_1.pdf
O\t
Is that right? Ruth the mooth is going to contest a seat at Broxstowe at the next GE???
Small donation made.
We need you to rage against the machine.
@ mumsyhugs
That wouldn’t surprise me; she’s denied it often enough! Also Anna Soubry will be in the Tories’ sights.
Hi, Wingers, Peace and Love to All.
I’m pleased to see a thread where good people are not arguing amongst themselves about side issues. Scotlands independence comes first and foremost, no ifs no buts.
Money is our ammunition so fire it in!
@naina tal
Thanks for that, you’re very kind 🙂
I feel better but taking it easy, no all night work sessions, just a couple of hours or so at a time. Just as well I only joined the AUOB at Freedom Square all the same.
@ScottieDog
These ones (first 3)?
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGVfektAXlCjoMy70ftQBkA
Hopefully I’ll get a chance later in the week 🙂
Cactus says:
6 March, 2018 at 8:21 pm
7:20pm now £57,637 with 1059 donations …. looking good
@Smallaxe – your posts will reduce the space for wrangling as well as give us all a boost!
Donation made. Worth every penny.
Now I just need to find a way to contribute to Independence Live whose crowdfunder is struggling at 58% with five days to go. The indygogo seems to be playing up for their appeal 🙁
Well done young man.
Money is in
No real surprise the target was passed without effort. These are turbulent times and more than ever the “news” needs to be deconstructed and shown for the shabby distortion it is.
The Express has a headline proclaiming Scotland’s desire for Brexit. A classic example where Wings has made it so much simpler for an alert reader to kick the flimsy arguments and sleight of hand into touch.
A public service that the public are happy to fund.
Done. I needed a new mug anyway.
Done
Used to always,or try to,contribute to you…. then you blocked me due to your petit petulance…so…nah..
Raffle a few hip flasks if everyone is after them, £1 or a £5 a time. Next they will be on eBay. Raking up a massive hike.
It is so annoying all those (l am) not a robot..Matching cars or buses or crossing,. Time, after time, after time.
It is so great watching the donations total go up. Amazing.
Watching Wings total go up is almost as good as watching Bella go down.
The Tories on the gravy train. Maybe not such a realistic move at the moment. The Tories going down big time. Jumping off the sinking rotten barrel. before getting the push. Rats in a sack,
Am swanning around in sunny Mediterranean climes.
Will chuck in the price of a good night out as soon as I’m home – end of this week.
Well worth every penny – mair power tae yer elbow Rev.
To CameronB Brodie 6.44pm…
Do you think Scotland has been colonised ?
If you do , do you think the colonisers have privileges ?
What are they ?
If you think Scotland has not been colonised ,what is the aim of your post at 6.44 pm ?
@ Eric Smith
You said: ” Used to always,or try to,contribute to you…. then you blocked me due to your petit petulance…so…nah..”
Just in case anyone wasn’t sure, Scotland’s self determination is all about Eric and his snowflake feelings.
The dug ate the donation lol.
A manky big vets bill today, I scraped a few bob anyway and stuck it in the pot. More to follow on payday…
Terry callachan
Of course Scotland has been “internally colonised”. That does not mean Scotland is a colony, simply that many Scots have been bent out of shape and now consider British nationalism to be the natural order of things. As such, their minds have been colonised by power.
Terry callachan
British society is structured through colonialism, so I think insight into the colonial mind is relevant. Perhaps this view is not perceived as helpful by some?
http://www.journaldumauss.net/?Internal-Colonialism-Postcolonial-Criticism-and-Social-Theory
The Scotsman … “Wings Over Scotland raises £60,000 for wage and possible Dugdale appeal “
And in the small print … “…..commissioning fees for opinion polls and building up a ‘Wings Fighting Fund’ ahead of another possible second referendum. The fund would pay for the distribution of Mr Campbell’s Wee Blue Book.”
http://archive.is/3DxW4
Max strength to your pen stu
Westminster security op now fully underway
Hollyrood needs new votu g system
Holyrood needs second chamber
Mud slinging at cherry
Poluce at salmond
Fictional fights in snp
No end to the propaganda from unionist placemen
We need your reporting
And of course, the full-English Brexit is a consequence of England not getting past its’ colonial identity, as is the despotic stance of HMG towards Scotland.
https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2018/11/19/colonialism-does-connect-britain-the-eu-and-bosnia-but-britain-is-not-being-treated-like-a-colony/
I’m just loving the white noise coming out the yoons , they are going fucking bananas and I love it!! When I grow up I want to be a vile cybernat! Lovely, lovely ,lovely.
Donation made, thank you Stu .
Dont do online banking, and cant get in to town due to health lay up. But have given donation to my good neighbours who will be paying in for me by direct bank transfer on saturday. Keep up the good work stu.
Tuppence worth in.
Will add more later.
Your sacrifices in the name of truth, honesty and transparency for Scotland’s freedom are very much appreciated Stuart.
Down with lying,thieving,selfish british values and it’s disciples.
Morgatron says:
Just imagine what it will be like after enough IndyRef2 votes have been announced and we know for sure YES have won. Then there will be the official announcement Their heads will implode.
Then we will show great magnanimity and invite everyone who cares about Scotland to come together to build the new IScotland we know is possible. But we do deserve a wee gloat first 🙂
More on “internal colonisation”.
eprints.whiterose.ac.uk/122964/2/Internal%20Colonisation.%20Final%20version.%20EJIR.pdf
The yoonisphere is apoplectic, you can almost smell the gin from some of the tweets, I’m batshit happy.
The missing abstract.
@galamcennalath
I’m not sure how they will respond to a defeat, they were looking for a riot after they won so I’m pretty sure there will be trouble if they loose. They only believe in democracy as long as they have the upper hand, they follow OO rules.
Over £65k now. 🙂
£65,000.00 in so far before the clock strikes 11.
Jings, now over £66k.
We only have to win once. They have to win every time.
And a bit more backstory on British internal colonialism. This is the sort of context that makes inductive reasoning possible. Subsequently, the informed individual is more able to exercise rational self-determination.
The Impact of British Colonialism on Irish Catholicism and National Identity: Repression, Reemergence, and Divergence
https://journals.openedition.org/etudesirlandaises/1743
Smallaxe – good to hear from you. Hope all is well. More power to your elbow Stu.
The pen is mightier etc…
The fundraiser is going well but not nearly well enough. it is time the hundreds of thousands of readers of Wings made a small contribution for the exceptional output from Stu over the past few years.
If 100,000 lurkers were honest enough to pay £10 for 1 year`s fine , analytical journalism then we would be looking at £1 million.So come on lurkers join the Wings family by making a token contribution.
Of course the money raised is important but the message of support for Wings and Stu is much more important.
When the police come calling and MI5,the 77th brigade and GCHQ become involved they have to know that 300,000 people have Stu`s back and we are fully committed in our support.
Benhope – With you all the way on that.
Just a couple of quid each from 100,000 would make so much difference. Yes. We can.
Some monies have changed hands.
All methods failed. Kept saying ‘Your card has expired’ despite it being 08/21. Paypal failed as well, wouldn’t let me enter an ammount.
An early ongoing congrats to Wings Over Scotland again
Total (as at 03:17am with 1270 donors)
£68,339.74
What’s the next stepping target going to be…?
And how fast can it be achieved…
75k by supper tonight aye!
And congratulations also, to all of YOU donors 2…
Wae many many many more tae come.
Hey, you’re NOW a Winger 🙂
Devastating poll for Davidson on “ scotgoespop” website.
North chiel says:
14 May, 2019 at 3:37 am
Devastating poll for Davidson on “ scotgoespop” website.
Devastating poll for Scotland if we return 2 Brexit Party MEP’s.
Not one humiliating embarrassment like Coburn, but two.
FFS. Can we indulge in a little motivated urgency to get out of this Union before this gangrene spreads even further?
Scotland is resistant to this reality-numbing shite, but I warn you, not immune.
Wonderful total – great to think this is a ground swell of goodwill for stu, not dark money, not rich donors but you and me supporting great journalism, the only one not afraid to take on the bbc and msm and lying politicians.
WM very very worried, it’s not project fear any more it is project smear – we know they fight dirty – they want to take out the big hitters -it is what WM governments have always done all over the world including at home. Just look around the world, everywhere UK has been and been left broken and divided.
Remember never believe what the bbc and msm are saying – they speak for the rich, the well connected, the ‘powerful’ and certainly not for you and me.
For the 77th Brigade, MI5, MI6, Anti Terrorist Unit, etc.
I really think you should be getting your hands in your
Pocket and contributing.
If Wings wasn’t here there would need to be redundancies.
Give a friend a Tenner to put in the pot for you and it will
Never be traced.
God, would the Tories accuse us of using Dark Money?
Arthur Cormack on Twitter…
Good to see @IanBlackfordMP calling for additional funding for BBC Scotland. I’m sure he would also support increased funding for @bbcalba which survives, rather then thrives, on a smaller budget resulting in 74% repeat programming. #Gaelic speakers are not being served well.
“Yes indeed I would Arthur and we should make a start by reinstating the budget from the UK Government that was removed.” … Ian Blackford.
Give us this day, our daily BBC propaganda, and forgive those lying bastards who trespass against us. Give them more money.
I am losing heart now. We might be sovereign people, but we have a sovereign resolve made of marshmallow.
Thanks to guidance from the Rev, I became suspicious of a BBC report that A MSP had called for
A halt to rural bank closures.
The vast area of Sutherland now has one permanent branch.
Now if the MSP had been a member of a Unionist Party then the BBC would have promoted that Party and presented the member and party as Scottish heroes.
On the web the only link I could find was a Moray Community paper report where again they
Wouldn’t name the MSPs party?
Well I was correct, Robert Lochead is an SNP MSP.
Using the 3 letters SNP in a positive context in the UK Media, especially the BBC is as likely as a Vampire Sun Bathing.
Can’t wait to see Pacific Quay turned into the museum of Independance were generations can be made aware of how propaganda is used to manipulate the masses.
I’d lay on buses for English School kids if Westminster has a gap in their Wall running along the border.
Thanks for your efforts Stuart. As I’ve said before I hope this isn’t really the Last Call. When we do get independence we’re going to need folk like yourself more than ever to hold our government to account.
It is near gimpossible to return 6 SNP MEP. Some kind of tranferable vote. Not FPTP. To fool the voters and let the unionists in. Electoral fraud system. Every way but which to let the unionists liars in. Electoral fraud and illegal funding. Lie, after lie, after lie. Promises reneged upon, cheats and liars. The Westminster unionists imbeciles trying to destroy the world. Fiddling, lying and cheating, Disgraceful.
That is why the SNP keep on winning.
Vote SNP/SNP. Vote for Independence. Get one other to vote as well. Job done.
Make the world a better place. End Westminster unionist corruption and destruction. Campaign, donate, join and do everything folk can. Or just get out there and vote.
Well done everyone, especially Rev Stu. Pure Genius. Beating them at their own game. Absolutely brilliant.
Richard Lochhead SNP
Sorry to repeat but in the European Parliament election you simply look for the SNP symbol and put ONE cross in that box.
Stu your worth every penny, £50 on its way, keep up the good work, your an absolute star mate.
Done and a wee £2 monthly subscription, thanks for all your work Stu
@ Ken500
I know you really, really, like FPTP, but if that had been the system at Holyrood, there would have been a massive SLab overall majority in 1999, no Tories, and precious few SNP*.
There would probably still be a SLab majority there – and thus no 2014 IndyRef, and no Brexit lifeboat.
European Parliament elections used to be FPTP, but were changed in 1999 at the behest of the EU. Nothing to do with “letting unionist liars in” – while 50% (approx) of voters support these parties they will get approx 50% of the seats, and it could be argued that that is fair. Change voters’ minds to get a different outcome, rather than yourself trying to pochle the system.
*I am not equating Tories with gods, nor even the SNP with heroes.
As others have said, DONATED, from a worn old pocket but worth it. I will see Indepedence in my lifetime, thanks to everyone who has the courage and sense to put Scotland first.
@CameronB Brodie
10:00pm
Indeed, Scotland was the petrie dish for experiments in colonialism.
The anglicization of the ruling class and the education system, land appropriation, stripping away of ethnic distinctiveness and the exploitation of perceived ‘divisions’ mirrors those of imperialist designs in Africa, the Near East and Asia.
It is interesting in Scotland’s case that the anglicization process actually began in ernest as a consequence of the protestant reformation. The ‘propaganda’ medium, for the lack of Scottis literature, was largely English, the Bible included, as was the innately anti-French ideological impetus.
Protestantism in Scotland was the equivalent of trade in India, expansion by stealth. Although for the many, at the time it did not seem so. The Catholic propagandist Ninian Win3et did however spot the link.
Post independence historical studies, a rich seam to mine.
Remember Stu lives in Bath.
In Somerset.
Where they take no prisoners.
Well actually they do.
Cos if his fundraiser failed
This might be his fate.
http://archive.is/IzjPs
Average donation over £50.
Not too poor wee or stupid after all :-}
1. So Iain Blackford is asking for more money to be given to the Westminster controlled BBC propaganda channel in Scotland. FFS. Seriously, when will the SNP wise up. We do not want the freaking lying, propagandist BBC. The BBC is working against the SNP, the people of Scotland and Scottish independence 24/7.
Time and time and time again, this has been clearly and unequivocally demonstrated, until people are sick of pointing it out. Yet still the SNP pander to ‘the establishment’ orthodoxy. What we actually need is full control over broadcasting in Scotland, with Scotland’s own REAL national broadcaster, not this colonial
English‘Rule Britannia’ sh*te served up by the BBC.The BBC have zero credibility in Scotland, since they abandoned ALL sense of integrity in 2014. They are done up here.
2. I see the usual, relatively talentless suspects are criticising REV STU for openly and clearly receiving voluntary donations from Scottish folk. I assume they would far rather he does as Scotland in union does or the Tories do, and receive donations from anonymous, secretive bodies, who are accountable to nobody, and the names of which are still secret. Of course the Tory dark money, is something which Davidson has NEVER been properly questioned about. To this day, the supine Scottish so-called ‘journalists’ turn a blind eye. Of course.
Maybe we should start referring to Wings as an independently funded think tank, how could the MSM then ignore him. After all the BBC programmes are stuffed with ‘think tank’ funded people, and these ‘think tanks’ have funding less transparent than Wings.
Breeks says:
It would be even more devastating if we only return two SNP!
The also run parties’ votes are lost. There could be several of those on 6-9%. If the SNP get (I guess) they will get three seats.
2014 was …
SNP 27% Two seats
Labour 25.9% Two seats
Tory 17.2% One seat
UKIP 10.5% One seat
Greens 8.1% Nothing
LibDems 7.1% Nothing
This time, quite easily, Lab or Greens or Tories or LibDems could get nothing! A couple of them will get something.
I think the committed BritNats will be tempted to vote Brexit Party. They will get one seat. I can’t see them reaching 20%+ to get two.
I like that.
The Wingsoverscotland Think Tank.
… after the (I guess) I meant to say the SNP getting 33%+
The biggest challenge in the EU elections is getting people out to vote, the turnout last time was abysmal, in the low 30% area I think. The polls are meaningless when the turnout is this low, that’s why UKIP ended with one MEP.
The Brexit Party are going to attract the ultra unionist vote, this is somewhere around 20% I feel. They will go out and vote the same as UKIP support did last time. Voter apathy is the enemy, the MSM stoke this apathy by their it’s not really worthwhile voting comments.
Hahahehemuhaha (that is my vile cybernat laugh)
You do know Rev that next time you have a fundraiser the yoons will be howling but but but you said last time it was the last call once in a generation and all that.
Something to think about when you shop a IKEA.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/14/sweden-far-right-wartime-past
https://sputniknews.com/europe/201904251074438747-sweden-assyrians-war/
Syriac Christians, my ‘ethnicity’, are not just targeted by so called Islamists. Sweden did benevolently open its doors when others didnt but internally many doors were also shut for fear, resentment and ignorance. Syriacs, in the main well educated, were blamed for ‘lowering the tone’.
Fortunately for Scotland, the new right’s ‘nationalism’ is manifestly British, Unionist and Faragist.
Winning all Scottish seats would be a propaganda coup, earthquake, tsunami impacting well beyond our borders. However, just one Brexit party seat would be enough to spoil the show. And BritState media would be happy to help.
NO FARAGISM HERE!
MSM telling us that Alex Bell coming out for Greens and attacking The SNP is some sort of sensational setback for The SNP when anybody who follows politics is well aware that he has been performing his own vile Jim Sillars Tribute Act for several years.
All they have is a desperate attempt to split the Pro-Independence vote at the same time as promoting FaRadges Brexit Party @gus1940 says at 11:35 am.
All the BritNats and their Placemen and Placewomen fanatically “doing their bit” in the defence of “the Precious Union” and due to the threat level are doing it in plain sight.
The power of mere symbolism.
https://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/snp-could-see-all-time-record-result-in-eu-election-professor-john-curtice-1-4926445
Abulhaq
No it wont Abulhaq last time that odious little UKIP slug got in.
And they will only win 1 seat maybe and only because the way the crappy electoral system works.
I doubt very much the yoons in Scotland can handle a remain/leave fight in their ranks just now or another yoon party to split their vote.
Wee wullie and his fibdems are sneaking aboot trying to hoover up remain yoons lol
The tories and labour are bricking it as it is their votes that are up for grabs.
I note in the forthcoming EU election this is a proportional representation election where seats allocated to parties will be in proportion to share of the vote. Consequently with the SNP currently “ polling” somewhere between 40-50 pc then a seat allocation of 3 would be excellent . Speculation of a 6 seat “ clean sweep” would only be possible under FPTP. Thus the minority parties will receive the remainder of the seat share out ,under this system. Yet a minority Tory government at Westminster can claim the “democratic “right to govern because the “ seat share” under this FPTP system is in excess of the share of the vote received .Compare and contrast with the PR systems for Holyrood and the EU Parliament and yet the “ broadcasters/propagandists” rarely if ever highlight this significant difference .
We need a better question at the next indyref, we need to emphasis who should hold the power over Scotland.
Should Scotland’s future be determined by politicians elected by Scotland or politicians elected in other countries, mostly England but the balance of power held by parties like the DUP.
The vision of empowerment rather than the separation, we need to control the narrative.
Cubby
Let’s be clear. No matter the results in the EU elections the Britnat media will spin it as a bad result for the SNP, the Scotgov and for Scottish independence. All this talk about the SNP (from Curtice and others) sweeping the board/ winning 5 or 6 MEPs is just setting the scene to say SNP failed again.
So anyone posting comments on Wings like “winning all seats” is just plain ignorant or more likely imo following Curtice’s line to set high expectations then say SNP Failed. So why would an independence supporter do this – thick or a phoney independence supporter?
The SNP won the 2017 GE – what does the Britnat media say – Truthless Davidson won it.
The Britnat media are strangers to the truth – and that’s a fact.
“Dear colin,
This is a receipt for your gracious donation to Wings Over Scotland.
Organisation: Wings Over Scotland
Campaign: Last Call”
It’s good you get an email receipt to confirm the donation went through ok.
As regards the link to the “ Scotsman” at 1155 , I note that Professor Curtice is “ bigging up” the SNP “ record result “ forecasted. However, at no time does he mention seats in the article for the good reason that he knows well that 3 seats would be an outstanding result for the SNP under PR and his “ record result” headline implies more than this. Therefore , he can thereafter return to the “ Scotsman” with a post election “ analysis” “ playing down” the SNP result. ( propaganda in the making).
Alex Bell has been huffing about the SNP ever since he left in a huff in 2013.
The Pollsters are liars. Illegally. Making money for Hedge Funds. Ripping off the public purse £Billions and starving people. They have been censored and fined many times. The association is criminal but they just get away with it. Protected by the crooks at 10 Downing Street. Cash for honours. It never goes away the corruption. Ripping off the pubic. Gerrymandering and influencing the vote. Data protection Laws totally broken. Illegal, secret donations and manipulation.
@Cubby and North Chiel re: EU elections.
I posted this on last thread, and is relevent to both your excellent comments.
………
geeo says:
12 May, 2019 at 5:50 pm
1st it was splitters, telling folk to ‘vote green’ in the EU elections (anything except SNP as per unionist agendas).
Now it seems we have ‘expectation failure’ where folk are promoting this idea that SNP MEP’s will/should win ALL 6 Seats on the 23rd May.
Then, lo and behold, anything less (probably 3, POSSIBLY 4) will be deemed as ‘failure’ by the SNP.
In the real world, it is really difficult to win even 3 seats at this election in Scotland.
So for the starting expectation to be, or even hope to be, 6 seats, is frankly, for the birds.
3 seats from 6 will be a great result, 4 will be a phenomenal result.
There are no expectations from the party to win 6 seats, nor even 5.
3 seats is where expectations sit, with an eye on a fourth, if the stars align on the day.
That was certainly the view of my SNP MP, Martyn Day.
Quietly confident of 3, dreaming of 4.
5 and 6 – no chance.
……………
Curtice is a pish dribbler, setting up ‘SNP failure’ propaganda for later as you guys said.
He is fooling nobody, except those happy and
willing to be fooled.
FPTP Later in Holyrood the SNP would have come through and swept the board. There would be no opposition there at all. No unionists liars cluttering up the place. Heaven. No vacant coupons, no one can stand but cannot get rid of them.
It depends on how many people vote and how they vote. Not encouraged to give their vote away or vote against their principles and beliefs. Under a system the public do not understand, Instead of keeping it simple. One person, one vote. No splitting their vote because of ignorance, misunderstanding or misinformation,
Re Euros, much prefer to be an Ay, we can than a Naw, we cannae…and I don’t wear rose tinted specs. Curtice is a professional afterall and ‘miracles’ do sometimes happen, even in Scotland.
@Ken 500
If you extrapolate the seats won % from the 73 FPTP seats at the 2017 Holyrood Election over ALL 129 seats as if FPTP, the SNP would have won 104 seats from 129.
SNP won 59/73 FPTP seats = 80.82% of seats.
80.82% of 129 seats = 104.25 seats.
An absolute majority of 79 seats.
Anyone in any doubt why Holyrood has the system it has, only has to look at those numbers.
It also highlights why WM will NEVER move from FPTP as PR such as D’Hont would be devastating for the labour/tory duopoly.
Read the Curtice article.
He’s talking about percentage of the vote.
Not seat numbers.
Ken500 says:
FPTP is everything but simple in reality. The results bear very little relationship to the votes cast. To win overwhelming power, you only need to get more votes than anyone else at a constituency level.
It doesn’t work very well with multiple parties which is why Con and Lab (and SNP) have to be broad churches with internal conflicts over policy ( i.e. Brexit).
It is possible win a seat with 25% of votes cast.
It is possible to win power at WM with a majority of seats from only 35% of votes cast.
No PM has actually won (by the rest of Europe’s standards) a WM election since Stanley Baldwin in 1930. Few of us remember that.
People like Thatcher changed the UK completely because they had power. That power was achieved even though most voters ALWAYS opposed her.
FPTP is giving a veneer of democracy to dictatorship by minority.
Having said all that, there are better systems Scotland could adopt. For clarity, the same system should be used in all elections. Using multiple systems is confusing … intentionally I would opine.
O/T and British Steel in talks about getting a new £75 million taxpayers bail out to avoid collapse of the business.
Owned by private equity firm GreyBull Capital, yet seeking TAXPAYERS money to bail it out.
I bet GreyBull Capital never give any PROFIT SHARE to the Taxpayers of the Uk.
Mind you, this mob owned Monarch Airlines, which also went bust under their stewardship, so do they ever actually make money ?
http://archive.is/xlB7F
If donations continue at current rate, the total will reach £100k by around midnight tonight. That would be nice.
O/T
Anyone wishing to send Condolence Card’s re Cearc passing send to
Aultbea Lodges
Aultbea
Achnasheen
Rossshire
IV 2H4.
Emma Aubrey Morwenna
If Anyone is planning on visiting Cearc’s home for the Memoriam service contact me & I will give you the address , leave a contact E mail in O/Topic .
RIP Maria ( cearc ).
Managed to donate on Paypal once I fugured you just typed the number rather than try to overwrite the 0.00.
Ahem.
Its getting too big 🙂
donated
keep up the great work stu
North chiel @ 12:05,
Indeed. That’s because the London-based media have bought into the “winner takes all” mentality just as much as the politicians. With the consequence that it’s become ingrained with far too many unthinking ordinary voters as well. A system designed for 18th century illiterates. Brings “strength and stability”, though, don’t y’know? =cough=.
But one just couldn’t risk a majority SNP government in Scotland in the same way, could one? It wouldn’t do. Which is why, one suspects, PR was chosen for Scotland as much as from some high-minded principle.* Yet the SG gets lectures in democracy from a minority-elected UKGov and its Scottish proxies.
*(Though the SNP eventually broke it anyway. =grin=)
Anyone that decides to vote Green or LibDem in Scotland are just increasing the likelihood of more Brexit MEP’s from Scotland. The LibDem’s in Scotland are not even Remain, except they are 100% to Remain in the UK even if that is Scotland being dragged out of the EU, they are more charlatans than the Tories.
Voting Lab or Tory is basically voting for Brexit.
It’s time for logic over conviction, conviction politics can only truly happen in Scotland once we are independent.
I will be donating because wings over Scotland is a good read. Also I thought of the term LERTAs (Lesbian Exclusionary Radical Trans Activists) which might be better than TRA. Has more bite, no?
MY THOUGHT OF THE DAY.
SNP at EVERY ELECTION until Scotland is independent.
ABSOLUTELY NO ifs and NO buts.
There, that’s me out of the Closet—–I want an independent Scotland and the SNP is the ONLY PARTY capable of delivering it.
Donation sent.
I’m one of the ‘lurkers’ who reads Wings daily, and I very rarely comment on the threads. It is my first port of call for honest, transparent and truthful information relating to Scottish independence and Scottish politics, taken both from Stu’s posts, and from the hundreds of commentsthat I read through. The links, the opinions, the debates and the thoughts posted on here are all relevant, and helps give people like myself the required knowledge for persuading others to Yes, and the ammunition to counter-debate the soft No’s. I say soft NO’s, as debating with cemented nationalists (I prefer ‘nationalists’ for the Brits, as opposed to Yoons) is a waste of energy. Good to put them right now and then though.
Keep up the good work… Rev & Wingers.
Breeks @ 06:51,
The Tories had 1 MEP last time round and UKIP 1, so if both implode in favour of the Faragistes, that could easily give the latter a pair. And if Labour implode, as is likely (what a pathetic leaflet!), some of that might go their way also. The FibDems might benefit enough to get back a seat.
This is attritional politics. Even if the SNP “only” get 3 seats from all the fallout, the writing will be well and truly on the wall for Labour in Scotland, and all that media puffery for the Little Corporal will have produced nothing more than a limp burst balloon.
This is GOTV with a vengeance. It’s down to the people & their motivation again. But the SNP are the only party with the potential pull to have any hope of cutting that Farage 2 down to 1.
Now remember, I’m not an election strategist, but I’d big up England’s turn towards racism. Scotland must do more to defend her culture from England’s colonial hang-ups. For all woke readers out there, race, sex and class are all essential considerations when designing socially inclusive and sustainable public policy.
https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/englishness-racism-brexit/
Here’s some insight into contemporary (white) British nationalism.Remember, Scotland does not share England’s culture of institutional Islamophobia.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/23311886.2016.1186338
If it’s about vote share
Then the SNP would need to get 66.4 of the vote cast to acquire 4 MEPs.
Done, Hope it Helps
Just imagine the MSM if Cyril Smith had been a SNP politician and the leader at the time was still politically active. Would it have been buried as it is currently with the LibDem’s.
But the LibDem’s/Liberals are tainted with history, a leader that hired a hitman and child abuse hidden but the perpetrator knighted, that’s the British political system for you.
When you vote LibDem you are effectively condoning this behaviour. Who knows what else is lurking in the shadows.
Here’s some context that might impact on those who imagine us to be living in colour-blind times. Contemporary (white) British nationalism must not be allowed to undermine the multicultural tolerance Scotland has managed to achieve.
eprints.hud.ac.uk/id/eprint/24220/1/113.pdf
Donated £ 25 in Memory of our dearly loved fellow Winger Cearc , gone but not forgotten.
@ ronnie anderson
That was well done and said Ron.
Robert J. Sutherland says:
14 May, 2019 at 2:54 pm
…. It’s down to the people & their motivation again. But the SNP are the only party with the potential pull to have any hope of cutting that Farage 2 down to 1.
Yep. Kinda looks that way.
What a mess. Again. Scotland’s whole political landscape distorted yet again to accommodate an unwelcome and invasive UK phenomenon, whether it’s the Brexit Party, UKIP, or the sham of Better Together. It’s the BBC and BritNat Establishment who insist that Scotland is force fed a diet of UK politics, and genuinely Scottish interests like Independence, Scottish Culture and Constitutional arguments are belittled and invariably derided.
If Scotland already was an Independent Country in the EU, right now we’d be having a constructive political discourse about Europe-wide issues which affect us, such as Climate change, immigration, European Peace Keeping, Fish conservation, and the threat of far right populism. You would imagine Scotland as an Oil producing nation committed to Europe, with proven resistance to actual far right populism, with massive maritime fishing grounds and some very fine environmental credentials might readily be a top table speaker with a valuable contribution to make on any or all of such topics. We could be right up there, shaping and steering actual European policy on GLOBAL issues.
But No, here we are again. Scotland’s engagement with Europe and the World is put on hold, sidelined and nullified because we all have to fight a poxy, proxy war over contrived and artificial UK political issues which we have already rejected emphatically time and time again.
Get us out this fkn Union!!! It is the slow, lingering death of a thousand cuts for Scotland. Let us abandon this failed UK experiment which has robbed us blind and treated us with absolute contempt. We BELONG at the Top Table of Europe, ON MERIT, – not tied to the shoogily UK table leg to be thrown scraps like some miserable cur, and kicked at random for not being “Briddish” enough.
UK politics will massage and manipulate the voting process to give us 2, possibly 3 SNP MEP’s. Scottish Independence would give us something like 11 or 13 “Scottish” MEP’s unburdened by parochial “UK” prejudices and stereotypes. We will NEVER secure a win Scotland when playing the game under a British rule book.
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/wings-over-scotland-raises-60-000-for-wage-and-possible-dugdale-appeal-1-4926478
Bitter bitter BTL comments about the fundraiser on the Hootsmon. Including a comment from David T. (?)
A lot of thrashing, nashing and wailing from bitter angry people.
To CameronB Brodie….thank you very much for giving out your knowledge of colonialization.
To better understand how things are now I would like to find out more about how England used other countries people and resources and it’s own population of poor and criminal people to expand and sharpen the methods it uses to subjugate enslave and control .
The authors and books you mention look very interesting indeed.
I’m going to buy a couple.
Thanks again
It’s great when you make a breakthrough
@Breeks
The people of Scotland vote and its their vote that provides UKIP MEPs, Labour, Conservative and LibDem MPs, MSPs and MEPs.
That’s how democracy works. Until we have a major shift and I mean major shift towards voting against the mainstream parties then we won’t progress as a nation.
sci-fi
The people of Scotland need to make this groundswell in change for us to succeed in convincing enough people to support Independence.
Your arguments don’t hold up as we are not quite there yet as a nation to believe in ourselves.
Not when we have a large dose of Unionist MEPs, MPs and MSPs in our parliaments all elected by the Scottish electorate.
We have a ways to go in my opinion as the polls for Independence is not wide enough.
Shame really.
Funny how ten years ago bankers were as popular as dog shite on shoes. And here we are a few weeks from a particularly nasty banker ‘winning’ the EU election in England. Strange people, our southern neighbours.
Macart we have lost many independenistas over the years who wont see the dawning of Independence day but they wont be forgotten nor the campaigning work they undertook .
European Election material from Labour and the Greens delivered to the door, today. The first is adorned with a picture of ‘the Great Leader’ supposedly in a statesmanlike pose. Very little actually on European matters itself, and then this:
“If we can’t get changes to their [the Tories’] bad deal or a general election, Labour backs the option of a public vote.”
Does that make them an anti-Brexit Party? Pass.
Then the second, fronted by Caroline Lucas, MP. The Greens seek ‘climate justice’. (Me neither.) And ‘to change politics for good.’ (Isn’t that the Farage Party’s slogan, too?)
‘Next!’
FPTP is one person, one vote as it should be. Not a compilation of one person 1,2,3,4:5,6, votes. Effectively depending on the appalling PR or whatever system that the voters do not understand, Neither does anyone else, so they don’t bother voting. No wonder.
Voters are effectively diluting their vote because they do not understand the PR system. No one does. Or giving it away because they think they have to. They don’t. To suit some unionist. Getting three+ shots at it. Liars every one. To the SNP one.
The loser wins and the 3rd losers win. Just because most voters do not understand the system. No one does. To appease an imagined democratic system that does not exist. To enhance some loser politician. Let’s the 3rd losers in. No one can get rid of them. No one can stand the sight of them.
That is why FPTP is so popular. Voters are often not voting representatives in. They are voting rotten politicians out. The Tories are going down big time. Over and out. Not second and second and third votes. Multiple choices. The voters just do not understand. No one does. Having to vote for candidates they can’t stand. To get their choice selected. That does not even work. Keep it simple. More folk might even vote.
SNP/SNP. Vote for Independence. Get one other to vote as well. Job done.
Mac @ 4:31 pm
Bitter bitter BTL comments about the fundraiser on the Hootsmon. Including a comment from David T. (?)
—————–
They’re not particularly bitter – they’re bland, compared with the fiery batshit they used to post. And there’s a sullen, resigned undertone to the comments, like people with no shots left in their locker.
The MSM seems to be getting less negative, too – six months ago, The Scotsman editors would have burnt their hand off rather than write that Wings had had a successful crowdfunder. Are they, at last, hedging their bets?
Breeks @ 16:30:
Yup, that’s about the gist of it. Sometimes it gets to me how short-sighted and easily-diverted people can get. For reasons we all know. I imagine Nicola & Co often feel the same but worse. All that hard work gone unrewarded. You have to have a will of iron in that job.
Peter Bell has his latest take on that subject:
https://peterabell.blog/2019/05/14/a-strategy-for-penetrating-no-territory/
But we are where we are. People, whether they vote or not, are going to draw conclusions from the result that will affect future voting behaviour. Because of the ongoing inanity of their offer – they surely have a serious death wish – this one may well spell doom for NorthBritLab. That would be one serious impediment to indy removed.
Mike cassidy @ 15:51,
That does put it in perspective. Winning 4 MEPs is indeed a hard row to hoe. But in the somewhat crazy world of EU elections, it’s still possible with significant turnout differentials. Something that can confound the polls. Hence my point. It just needs a lot of Remainers to be incensed enough at the ongoing farrago to bestir themselves to get out and vote SNP this time, just as (the then) UKIP managed last time.
Terry callachan
My pleasure Terry. Thank you for using that knowledge to make a breakthrough in your understanding. 😉
Ken500 @ 17:28,
Don’t project your evident failure of comprehension onto others, please. The only people who support FPTP are fake democrats who depend on its ability to magic a semblance of authority from an absence of real electoral support.
There is no-one who is au fait with the issue and who truly cares about an accurate reflection of popular electoral support who supports FPTP. No-one.
FPTP is the favourite go-to electoral tool of the political bully.
Re: Brexit Party getting two seats in Scotland.
This is wonderful news!
The way I see it is, if the Tories/Labour vote collapses, and all the staunch unionists decide to rally around the Brexit Party in order to defeat the SNP,
This will surely cause a lot of soft No’s to be confronted with the realization, that they are on the same side as Nigel Farage and against Scotland’s best interests (and in a lot of cases against their own self interest)
Anything that gets soft No’s thinking about their choices, has got to be great news for Yes.
Just one Wee Blue Book into the hands of these ‘How the hell did I end up voting for Nigel Farage’ types, will surely swing definite No’s to ‘Don’t Know’ or Yes.
It’s all going along nicely!
We are undoubtedly living in interesting times. The people behind the Brexit Party are very right wing indeed. These people are only a ba hair away from the old BNP types.
It is incredible to me that so many in England feel moved to vote for them. May and her team and their incompetence have a lot to answer for. The reactionary element in Scotland is lower perhaps because support for right wing parties has been historically lower. They have stony soil to cultivate here. We need to ensure that it stays that.
The fundraiser is going well though 🙂
Patrick
I have some English neighbours who are Brexit , No voters and are quite buoyed by Farage. In their late 60’s. Don’t like immigrants. I did point out that they could be viewed as immigrants. Not happy chappies.
Still on the other side two active snp members in our branch are as English as they come in their 40’s. Put local born Scots to shame with their practical support and help over the years.
If the 100000 marchers all took 10 books each and gave to waverers or non voters what an impact.
Thanks Ronnie. It’s very sad that Cearc is no longer with us. I hope her daughters are comforted that her WoS family will remember her.
FPTP is the most popular political system. No wonder.
Racism is the culturally driven desire to silence and exclude the Other from one’s psychological environment (see Reluctant Nationalist, with his PhD in Psychology). Pretty much HMG’s stance towards Scotland re. the full-English Brexit.
Even Scotland’s and England’s racists acknowledge our different national cultures. I hate to burst Dunc’s bubble, but Britain is not One Nation.
https://warwick.ac.uk/fac/cross_fac/iatl/reinvention/archive/bcur2012specialissue/sutherland
Just watching Willie Rennie on the Lib Dem PPB. Vote for the LiB Dems to stop the SNP. The man is obsessed. I bet the Lib Dems don’t even get a mention in the SNP PPB.
OT.
From the National…
53% of young Scots aged 16-24 did not know that Robert the Bruce led the Scots to victory against the English at the Battle of Bannockburn.
Good grief.
It’s not that they don’t know, they’re young, but it’s the depressing yardstick of what else they don’t know that makes it sad.
Just watched the LibDem’s in Scotland PPB, They a pro EU if England is pro EU, otherwise you Scots just need to do what England tells you. I think that encompasses their PPB message.
English political culture is heading in a rather scary direction, largely because it has not adequately dealt with its’ colonial legacy and structural racism. Will Scotland allow its’ culture to be damaged further by England’s far-right? Do the Church of Scotland still support (white) British nationalism?
https://www.oxfordhandbooks.com/view/10.1093/oxfordhb/9780190274559.001.0001/oxfordhb-9780190274559-e-3
Scottish history is now being taught as part of the curriculum. Future 16-24 year old will know Robert the Bruce led the victory at Bannockburn.
ronnie anderson says:
14 May, 2019 at 4:17 pm
Donated £ 25 in Memory of our dearly loved fellow Winger Cearc , gone but not forgotten.
Kudos to you
What’s this about Labour Party Welsh language leaflets ending up in Scottish Gaelic speaking areas? And that the Welsh itself is erroneous?
Dearie, dearie me. The Red Tories go from bad to worse.
– Lawyer by Training
– Linguist by Profession
– Nationalist by Conviction
This is what (white) British nationalism and the full-English Brexit stand in opposition to, as do all who do not resist the influence of the far-right (looking at you Church of Scotland).
https://www.coe.int/t/dg4/cultureheritage/mars/source/resources/references/others/38%20-%20Multiculturalisme%20and%20Integration%20-%20Modood%202011.pdf
The Brexit party is what the Conservatives always wanted to be but were too scared to risk..England First and Last and to hell with the rest.
The writing is on the wall for the old one nation C&U party. Wonder if R2D2 has seen it yet? Her world is truly falling apart.
@Derek 5:41pm
I had not been on the Hootsmon for a long time.
These guys are ranting about Stu and the Fundraising. All sorts of accusations about dole money and drinking and expenses fraud.
Many of them read WOS from what I can see. And they all claim to know Stu well.
Please all go on and post a nice comment. Seriously nice.
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/wings-over-scotland-raises-60-000-for-wage-and-possible-dugdale-appeal-1-4926478
CameronB Brodie says:
14 May, 2019 at 7:05 pm
English political culture is heading in a rather scary direction, largely because it has not adequately dealt with its’ colonial legacy and structural racism.
I think you nailed where we are at Cammy.
Let no one say you don’t have your own view through the staggering plethora of academic literature you possess.
Given the hysteria by Unionists, and sadly some mis informed indy supporters about this fundraiser, I am sorely tempted to make a further donation.
I get a bit irritated at people online suggesting that somehow REV STU dupes us all, but He doesn’t. I pay because he is the ONLY person (plus occasionally WGD and Scotgoespop) who thoroughly dissects unionist lies. It’s that simple.
Looks like the union is dead.
Who would of thought.
Good old brexit party.
On another cheery note, Indy Live’s fundraiser just passed their target now too. Happy days/nights. 🙂
dakk
Cheers mate. I have quite strong opinions though I’m a nobody without platform or social capital. The academic stuff is what I was trained to use as a remedy to internal colonialism and falling political engagement. I’m still very rusty but it appears to be falling in to place for me. 🙂
Stufff like this. Remember, support for the full-English Brexit is strongest among those who identify as non-practicing Anglicans and English only.
https://www.pewforum.org/2018/05/29/nationalism-immigration-and-minorities/
The state of the unionist parties:
Tories, stuck in 2017, Scotland has moved on, they know you lied to them about Brexit, the union, pretty much everything in fact. Ruth Davidson about to lead the Tories to the worst defeat in their Scottish history.
Labour, trying to kid on they are Remain to some Leave to others. They are Leave, don’t be fooled.
Libdem’s pretend to be Remain but if England leaves Scotland leaves is their position. At the same time they try to sweep their child abuse history under the carpet (we will remember). I hope Orkney and Shetland have clocked these despicables this time.
Mac@7.52 pm
Don’t do that to yourself! Don’t read the Hootsman!
Ian Foulds@7.42
What happened to cearc!? I met her again at the Glenrothes Wings night last year. She gave me lots of beautiful eggs. Oh Dear! She was looking very nifty in her hat and dress.
Going on the Scotsman website puts up, the would be, adverts revenue. Better ignored. .
Any revenues/donations is better going to Wings etc.
Mad Wullie Rennie’s Scottish Lib Dems manifesto for EU elections.
” the only one north of the border which also opposes a fresh referendum on independence ”
Didnae know slab and the Scottish Tories are pro Indy now.
What a balloon.
For those of you who don’t do Twitter, please check out this clip of Wullie Rennie’s defence of David Steel.
I know Wullie has provided us all with many amusing moments over the years but this isn’t funny.
It’s time for him to go.
https://twitter.com/WingsScotland/status/1128348805659754497
Tell you what, there’s definitely something subversive about these Bath based do-gooders. Remember, Scottish ‘nationalism’ is an ‘inclusive populism’ and supports multicultural tolerance, unlike the racialised “nationalism” south of the border. 😉
http://www.bath.ac.uk/polis/research/nationalism-populism-radicalism
Mac at 7:52pm
Same here,never looked at the on-line Hootsmon for years. I only clocked in to post some bile about the “Hold the Front Page”…Scoop?! jeez,not a single comment on any of their featured articles and no sign of their “Headline News” story about a bloke who had let his SNP membership lapse…TWO FEKKING YEARS AGO.
Turns out I know him from years back, a real 24/7 victory or death Hypernat…That Joanna Cherry or whatever her name is must be some piece of work to drive to such extremes.
I am beginning to think that unionists are so scared of losing now that they are about to become dangerous.
They do not take winning well, never mind losing well.
Mind yer back Stu
More on the seamier side of England’s political culture. This is what the leader of the Brexit party denies is a problem. Scotland needs to choose a more inclusive, and ultimately culturally sustainable, path.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1111/1467-856X.12036
Unfuckingbelievable @Ian Brotherhood says at 9:23 pm
The FibDems.
The Party of the proven in court liar.
This should be front page, top of the hour broadcast news headlines, pressing Wee Wullie 1p to justify this stance, Call UKOK should devote time to it etc. etc.
But sadly we all know it won’t be.
Compare and contrast with the muck throwing reports of any SNP elected officials ‘alleged’ wrong doing across the BBC and BritNat Dead Tree Press.
They are as complicit in condoning this rewarding of heinous criminality as those who are prepared to vote for such a Pernicious Political Party.
Happy to donate Stu. Hopefully another donation next pay day
Keep up the good work, Greatly appreciated
Donation made.
Why do I donate? For a number of reasons.
One of which is that if I wanted to read a load of Britnat lies then there is an extensive choice of newspapers e.g. Scotsman, Herald, Daily Record, the British Daily Express, The British Daily Mail, The British Telegraph, the British Times, the British independent, the Sun ( more of a comic but they claim to be a newspaper).
Why do I come down hard on phoney independence supporters posting on Wings? Well if I wanted to read their Britnat lies I have a vast choice available to me. I don’t want to read it btl on Wings.
I’m all for free speech – Britnats post away – but I reserve the right to comment on what they say whenever and in what manner I wish. So all you censor freaks like the Herald and others – pissof.
The “be nice pills” are well and truly chucked in the bin. Any Britnat party (Lib Dems ) that hides people like Cyril Smith is disgusting and deserves no respect. Any Britnat party that reinstates Steel after he covered up Smiths crimes deserves no respect. It deserves total condemnation. Rennie you are disgusting.
All the Britnat parties are disgusting and their advocates who post on Wings will not get any courtesy from me.
I genuinely can’t believe the excuse Willie Rennie is giving for reinstating ‘Lord’ Steel.
He claims that David Steel admitted that ‘He had hearing difficulties’ so didn’t quite catch what he was being asked in the inquiry!
So Lord Steel forgot to use words like ‘sorry I missed that, can you repeat it’ or ‘pardon’?
Willie has been a figure of fun up ’til now but has now been elevated to a disgusting liar.
Blimey!
I clicked on that Hootsmon link and I’m shocked at the mindless diatribe there.
They seem to have more posters there than readers.
Great care given to promote all post anti Scotland, Independance and the Rev//Wings.
The quality of post confirms the contributors would struggle to understand words of more than 5 Syllables.
Breath taking mindless banality from what was once a newspaper.
It’s death throws will soon be over and those concerned can hit the
Road South in their Jack Boots.
That magnificent defence of a custodian of great british values will surely earn the scot William Rennie MSP a lifetime sinecure in the House of Lords.
Salt of the earth,pillars of society are our elite unionist brethren.
Baron to be William Rennie will certainly deserve his place at the pinnacle of british society.
dakk
Lord Rennie of Twatt? It’s a LibDem area.
Effijy @ 21:59,
I don’t bother myself, but though that kind of cyberbritnattery will no doubt resonate with fellow zealots, if we try to be objective, how likely will such bile convince any wavering former-no to stay onside? Or convince any new voter?
Maybe Neil Mackay will write an exposé on them next weekend…? =cough=
jfngw
lol, thought you were joking.
Sounds perfect for the wee british appeaser.
STV Scotland Tonight at 10.40 are to look at the pros and cons of crowd funding?
As one of the Many UK propaganda outlets I feel confident of an all out attack on the Rev
And all of us you contribute to Wings financially and verbally.
The show will have its usual balance of carefully selected Unionists to advise on how bad Scotland is and what a disaster be to stop Westminster from robbing and abusing us.
willie Rennie with the ‘I see no ships’ excuse for the diabolical.
Who do these people think they are deceiving?
And just what is the MSM for?
O/T
Nice bit of coverage of our friends in Wales…
https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Welsh-Protesters-Push-for-Independence-from-UK-Brexit-20190511-0024.html
Remember, the leader of the Brexit party denies Islamophobia is a problem in Britain/England.
https://www.birmingham.ac.uk/Documents/college-social-sciences/social-policy/IASS/news-events/MEDIA-ChrisAllen-APPGEvidence-Oct2012.pdf
Flower of Scotland 9.14 Cearc passed away 3 weeks ago her cremation was in Inverness on the 8 th May
https://www.thenational.scot/news/17637239.boris-johnson-in-the-dock-can-he-survive/?ref=ar
An attempt to bring a private prosecution against Boris Johnson for lying during the Leave campaign under English Law.
Imagine Scottish politics where politicians could be held criminally accountable for lying.
They’d need to build extra jails for the Unionist politicians.
See also: https://wingsoverscotland.com/an-abuse-of-trust/
In Scots Law: “It is a crime at common law for a public official, a person entrusted with an official situation of trust, wilfully to neglect his duty, even where no question of danger to the public or to any person is involved.” Gordon, Criminal Law, 3rd Ed. Vol. II Chapter 44. q.v.”
Though, I am told, from a reliable source, that nobody in Scotland has been charged with that offence for over a hundred years.
@Colin Alexander…
“In Scots Law: “It is a crime at common law for a public official, a person entrusted with an official situation of trust, wilfully to neglect his duty, even where no question of danger to the public or to any person is involved.” Gordon, Criminal Law, 3rd Ed. Vol. II Chapter 44. q.v.””
Does buggering off half way around the world to feast upon kangaroo testicles and widgery grubs qualify?
Just asking for a friend…
Cannot believe how fuckin totally fuming I am over Wullie Rennie’s performance re David Steel.
Utterly disgusting.
Link to Twitter poll is below for anyone who feels moved to call for his resignation.
I know, I know, it won’t make a blind bit of difference, but hey, what else is there?
So so so so so sick of these rank-rotten bastards.
🙁 🙁 🙁
https://twitter.com/ianbhood/status/1128383471796224002
Maybe a question in the Scots Parliament for a full enquiry into retired Presiding Officer David Steel and any records of audionetry tests as he allegedly is hard of hearing. I am sure Rennie would cooperate fully in this. While there Rennie can fully explain his role with Carmichael and Mundell during the Torygraphs so called expose over Nicola Sturgeon alleged discussions with the French Ambassador which proved to be false. Of course a certain BBC journalist got rewarded by being transferred from Glasgow to Washington DC thereby avoiding being interviewed in court – allegedly.
Lib Dems honourable? Ask Jeremy.
Mac @ 7:52 pm
@Derek 5:41pm
…Please all go on and post a nice comment. Seriously nice.
—————————-
Done. See also my post, about changing soft-No minds, on
https://scotlandisdifferent.wordspress.com
Time for some Social and Political Psychology of Islamophobia? Anti-Islamic prejudice is part of the Brexitanian national identity, so you’d better start learning to modify your personality accordingly, if you’re not already Islamophobic.
https://jspp.psychopen.eu/article/view/463/html
@Derek Rodgers at 11.20pm
Just a heads up that Firefox is giving me a security threat warning to the link in your post.
Maybe some techy types can explain why that would be.
@dan
Looks like a typo in the link, extra s in wordpress. Try:
https://scotlandisdifferent.wordpress.com
@jfngw
Cheers for quick response! The link in your post work fine.
@dan
Just to add, it looks like wordpress also has the wordspress site name ownership. I suspect this is to stop someone else using it as a hacking site. This is the type you get in an email that looks like the real site at a quick glance but is slightly misspelt. I receive one almost regularly from microsoftonlne.com trying to steal details.
You get the firefox error because the HTTPS certificate does not cover the misspelt site.
For those unconcerned with the silencing of gender critical voices, ethnicity (not race), sex (not gender-identity) and social class, are all vital considerations in the design of inclusive and sustainable public policy. Legal rationality is grounded in liberal science, not radical science.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01419870.2013.734388
Labour at each other throats
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-48274107
Let’s see if Clegg of the Daily Record reports it or Tom Gordon in The Herald.
Effijy@10.41pm
Scotland Tonight
Nothing re Wings fundraiser. Just general advice re fundraisers. Pretty standard advice.
Most of the programme featured a discussion on the Scottish parliament
What a cracker earlier on in the programme. Lord ( yes Lord ) Jack McConnell giving his words of wisdom on the Scottish parliament. What a pathetic weechancer the guy is. The guy who gave money back to Westminster when he was FM.
Talking about wee chancers Hutcheon was also on giving us his sage words on the Scot parliament.
The lord pontificating on Scottish democracy – what a sad joke. He also said the Lords in London should be abolished – well he got that one right. He, however, is still happy to attend and pick up his London gold. A classic low talent labour place man.
Jack complains about parties getting a majority of seats on a minority vote – it wisnae fair – it wisnae supposed to happen. No mention of course of the Westminster system that does this nearly all the time. In fact the rest of his comments re a second chamber were mainly confused nonsense.
Jack wants a review of the powers of the parliament every 10 years. Why bother let’s just have independence instead.
Hutcheon says Scotlands problems are a lack of quality in the MSPs. Same old same old – everything in Scotland is rubbish except the Britnat media and the super dooper Britnat journalists like Hutcheon.
Shona Craven and Linda Fabiani easily batted away the nonsense being punted by McConnell and Hutcheon.
I posted stuff earlier, that suggests the corporate media has played a large part in the marginalisation of the Islamic identity in Britain. Pretty much like the marginalisation of the SNP and indy movement in Scotland. But are the corporate media the only source of this contemporary form of racism? Well, I know a bit about marginalisation and racism, coming from Scotland and knowing a bit about post-modern critical social theory and stuff. 😉
https://www.emeraldinsight.com/doi/full/10.1108/01443330810915242?fullSc=1&
Ian Murray says British Labour in Scotland are full of thugs and incompetents. Wonder what Murray is then – a thug or incompetent.
Murray doesn’t put a percentage split on the categories. My guess – 95% incompetent 5% thugs.
Coco @ 11.01pm
“Though, I am told, from a reliable source, that nobody in Scotland has been charged with that offence for over a hundred years”.
……..
Go on, who is this reliable source ?
Coco@11.01pm also wrote this:
““In Scots Law: “It is a crime at common law for a public official, a person entrusted with an official situation of trust, wilfully to neglect his duty, even where no question of danger to the public or to any person is involved.” Gordon, Criminal Law, 3rd Ed. Vol. II Chapter 44. q.v.””
……….
Was your ‘reliable source’ kevin hague by any chance ?
That quote above is a word for word quote from the 2nd Btl comment in THIS article about the Scottish budget.
http://archive.is/2ppVa
Are you ‘anonymous’ who wrote that btl comment, coco ?
TheItalianJob says:
14 May, 2019 at 4:48 pm
@Breeks
The people of Scotland vote and its their vote that provides UKIP MEPs, Labour, Conservative and LibDem MPs, MSPs and MEPs.
That’s how democracy works….
Is it? Was it democracy which led to Scotland returning UKIP MEP or the influence of the UK media?
How can democracy work when our entire political landscape is skewed to promote Establishment Unionism and discredit Scotland’s self awareness?
Democracy only exists when people have access to the truth and are free to make an objective decision based upon that truth. Our decisions in Scotland aren’t based upon truth, but a distorted BritNat narrative orchestrated and maintained to curb our desire for Independence.
Our democracy is compromised because our news and political discussion media is compromised. Our democracy does not reflect the will of the people but the stifling influence of the propagandists.
Democracy without a free press is not the same as democracy with a free press. Even IF Scotland had its own, indigenous and independent (small “i”) Scottish media redressing the balance, the all pervading presence of the Corporate BBC Propaganda would still constitute an unacceptable and intolerable degree of external interference, but we don’t even have an indigenous and independent Scottish media because the BritNat Establishment will not allow one to exist.
Democracy??? No, this is NOT how democracy works.
Story about Yoonatic reaction and that little work over by the ever loyal media. There’s nothing as crude and lazy as people who are convinced they will never be called to account. It’s people like Oppenheim who’ll be left holding the shitty rag.
Soared past 75k already 🙂 mibbies 100k by Sunday lunch, rising up
SO ah dinnae ken if this one has been played yet 😉
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjigy0XxFuo
Last Call
Something came up on my Microsoft news but I didn’t pay too much attention as it flashed past , the Defence Minister is to have an amnesty for all british soldiers war crimes.
Anybody know any more?
Just found a report in the Guardian – 10 year limit on investigation of ‘battle crimes’.
I wonder if that includes the politicians who signed off on rendition?
Sorry for posting a link to the Empire Propaganda Website, but have a look at this for “fairness”.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/c7zzdg3pmgpt/european-elections-2019
These aren’t EU Elections, these are the Farage Elections, at least they will be if the BBC has anything to do with it.
https://vip.politicsmeanspolitics.com/2019/05/10/whatever-you-do-do-not-educate-people/
A short, but thought provoking piece, about the current somewhat obvious, but un-newsworthy, broad Tory neo-liberal strategy to reverse the benefits of education among the masses, in order to create a worker-bee society under the control of the English Ruling Class.
Scotland needs Wings over Scotland more than ever. Plz donate if you have not already done so. And plz vote SNP only and always until Scotland is Independent.
In the meantime, as far as Scotland’s national income and wealth is concerned, Scotland is in a very real sense, collectively a slave, owned by England, but through careful propaganda, is dressed to look completely free. The Tories, once a colonial empire, always a colonial empire.
The Tories are trying to bring in Law to stop Army personnel being prosecuted. They will not succeed. They will not get it through. It would be unlawful under International Law. They will be gone before they could get it through, The Lords and Commons. The Lords has powers of twice delay. The Tories wanted to stop power of delay that but did not succeed. Not enough time.
A complete and utter shambles. Blair the illegal warmonger got away with it. He caused all this mess with the lies and deceit. Killing and maiming millions of people causing the worst migration crisis in Europe since 11WW. The Westminster unionists imbeciles cause war, death and destruction all over the world. They are an utter disgrace. Appalling people. Stop them.
Vote SNP/SNP. Vote for Independence. Get one other to vote as well. For a better prosperous, peaceful world.
Stop the Westminster unionist imbeciles trying to destroy Scotland. They are psycho bastards. Brexit. They could not make a bigger mess. Warmongering Blair caused it.
Iraq War, Dunblane, Lockerbie kept secret for 100 years.
I’m ignoring derogatory and inflammatory remarks that aim to disrupt the fundraiser. I would rather focus on the positive:
Wings Over Scotland clearly boosted the YES vote in 2014, especially with the release of the Wee Blue Book.
Wings will again be a major influence in any future indy campaign, so please contribute to the fundraiser if you can afford it.
It’s fantastic to see what we can achieve by our positive collective efforts. It frightens and dismays the British nationalists, so they will try to disrupt and discredit us. Don’t rise to the bait.
Be polite, be courteous, be friendly. Speak the truth for Scotland’s freedom with a smile. For those that won’t listen, shouting or angry arguing or aggression won’t make any difference: leave them to their willful ingorance.
Keep up the good work Stu and all the Wingers.
@ hamish100 said “Let’s see if Clegg of the Daily Record reports it or Tom Gordon in The Herald.”
It’s in the Herald, but not so anything in the Daily Redcoat yet.
BBC Radio Shortbreid standout comment this morning:
On prosecutions of former military personnel was “servants of the State should be held to higher standards”
No mention of D Steele, Cyril Smyth or Wee Wullie 1ps disgraceful defence of Steele yesterday when reporting on child abuse though!
Why would the BBC give the Brexit Party most of their coverage for the elections to the parliament of the European Union?
Do the party’s candidates have strong links to the Conservative Party??
Re the term ‘Islamophobia’, actually meaning fear of Islam, in history non Muslims living in territories conquered by Muslim armies had cause to be fearful of the new system, sanctioned by the Qur’ân, imposed over them. At a stroke their status changed in their own land, they beame ‘Dhimmis’ required to pay the jizya tax and acknowledge, as non Muslims the superiority of the new order and their own subordinate status.
The condition of ‘dhimmitude‘ varied according to region and the current ruler. Survival was rather a lottery.
Even today most Muslim states restrict the occupations of non Muslims to the non administrative.
A non Muslim may not have authority over a believer. Syria, with Lebanon, were/are exceptions to that rule.
True, there is no such thing as an Islamic ‘race’.
Jamie Murray on GMT. Lorraine the performing clown for tax purposes. Evading tax. Doing something for Scotland.
Jamie has new tennis coaching videos. Really interesting,
Judy Murray was giving talks about tennis and has written a book, interesting, Both world world tennis champions 2016. A record never to be beaten. Putting Scotland in the map. Bringing in£Billions to Scotland. Tourism and sport.
£60Million in public money for tennis (sport keeps people healthy) investment. UK. Scotland gets £800,000. Instead of £5Million (pro rata or more). After what Andy and Jamie bring into Britain in revenues. Wimbledon, ATP O2. Sport tourists etc. Worth £Billions to the economy. Scotland cheated out of revenues once again by Westminster unionist imbeciles.
The tennis centre in Stirling/Fife will bring in £Billions in revenues. It should be supported. It will bring in tourists and students of excellence. It should be supported.
Breeks says
Certainly, the will of the Scottish people has difficulty in shining through the fog of BritNat subterfuge.
A democracy can’t function unless voters have reliable information plus a balanced range of views before them. Look at the recent Swiss example where a referendum result was declared void because the relevant government stats published before the vote had mistakes! That is a world away from ‘democracy’ as we have come to know it!
We can only guess as the skewing of voting the BritNat media machine causes …. perhaps it’s worth 15 – 20% to them? But that’s just a guess.
I think one thing is certain, if Scottish voting for the past fifty years had been conducted in a regime of balanced media, we would have a quite different country by now! A much better and fairer one.
Yesterday a photo appeared (I cannot remember where) of a young man marching with Martin Webster of The National Front sevral decades ago.
The young man bore an astonishing resemblance to Farage.
Has anybody been able to confirm the ID of said man?
If it is confirmed to be Farage it will be interesting to see if it receives any coverage in the metropolitan Fascist media.
Welsh workers pay Scottish Income Tax coz of HMRC mix up? (Or Cymru subsidising Scotland? 😉 )
Hi gus1940.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6eZBqyXsAIqv0c.jpg
Ken 500
Murrays brought billions into scotland? Where?
@Welsh Sion
It’s OK because this is offset by Scots taxpayers being designated as being in England. It’s just a HMRC moneygoround so most of the cash ends up at Westminster.
gus1940
See also …
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-fascist-nazi-song-gas-them-all-ukip-brexit-schoolfriend-dulwich-college-a7185236.html
Ken 500 @ 9.03
The Tennis Centre at Park of Keir is nothing but a front for developers to get planning permission to build houses on green belt land.
If it ever came to pass it would end up sucking up all the money currently available from Sport Scotland and the Lawn Tennis Association that is supposed to help fund the development of tennis facilities across Scotland.
@gus1940
The photo (on Twitter) could be Farage. He’d be about 15 then. It was apparently taken outside a court. The identity of that court and its location might add authenticity.
There have been accusations of his early fascist ‘leanings’ …
http://archive.is/5bSnn
I’d worry more about his present views, whatever they might actually be behind the smoke, beer, and mirrors.
The ‘not Scottish oil’ should be left in the ground screams radio shortbread as the greens rack up the pressure.
Mr Tomlin from oil and gas caught a bit short on explaining how green they were becoming…but he really wanted to tell Garry to b*gger off and let Westminster UK carry on as usual.
PS
Garry twice in the interview accuses the woman in charge of the FE colleges negotiating committee of talking like a Scottish Government Minister when she said they were not approaching the SG for more money.
But…but…Sturgeon will cough up…won’t she?
PPS
Wee Willie Rennie… What’s he like? David is a trifle deaf!
Jings! One of our contributers must have just come back from Damascus and I’ve only been away since yesterday. 🙂
Oh fund raiser going well.
Quiet a strident shortbread this morning!
It is interesting that the story about Farage includes that picture. Is it a case of the journalist suspecting that it is Farage?
So we’ve seen recently:
SNP – wokebeard infighting
Lib Dems – paedo cover-up
Labour – ferrets in a sack
Tory – somehow, Teresa May is still PM, and every other alternative is even worse
Farage – young fascist
BBC – vigorously promoting Farage
Kind of puts you off politics, doesn’t it?
Craig P – And you didn’t even get started on the DUP. (I’ll let you off missing Plaid Cymru, too. I guess there’s nothing they’ve found on Adam … yet. Except he’s a vile separatist, of course!)
Sure that Farage photo was not outed elsewhere as either not him or a fake ?
Might be wrong – hes still an dangerous arse regardless.
O/T .
https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/60743417_10157246560412863_2610549811920764928_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&oh=9ca2cbff75a6251e640f49885d4d2907&oe=5D63CDE9
Note the date .
The terrifying story below is down the pecking order of importance in today’s Sun.
Jeremy Kyle cancelled being the most important followed by a Royal Baby being 1 week old??
Although the Damning figures apply only to England, the banner proclaims it as the UK?
Can any of you imagine the UK Media and the BBC if this news applied in Scotland. Boom!
UP to one in three areas in England are care deserts — blackspots without residential beds even for those able to pay.
The picture is even worse for those needing nursing support, with no capacity in up to two in three parts of the country.
galamcennalath says:
15 May, 2019 at 9:03 am
We can only guess as the skewing of voting the BritNat media machine causes …. perhaps it’s worth 15 – 20% to them? But that’s just a guess.
Guess or not Galamcennalath, interpret that “influence” as a margin of error tolerance, and apply it to every Scottish referendum and election, every by-election and council election over the last 40 years. Strike 20% off the BritNat/BBC vote, and that would overturn every close result lost into a comfortable result won, and our Scottish political landscape and tone of debate would be unrecognisable from what it is today.
The thing is, it’s more sophisticated than that. How do you quantify the corruption in terms of a figure? You might equally argue that every No voter was influenced by propaganda, and the whole NO argument is thus invalidated. Propaganda is a corruption which doesn’t influence democracy, it destroys it. A corrupt ballot should stand for nothing, and those who corrupted it should be held to account, and those complicit should be drummed out of politics.
Sky News website doing a wrecking ‘opinion’ piece on Change Uk party today: http://archive.is/zRWai
As ever the SNP do not exist (from linked article)
…….
“There is an obvious way CUK could do the same, which would answer the basic question of the necessity of their existence and get their base excited: they could call for full blown revocation of Article 50.
Strategically it is the perfect gambit: it secures column inches, it would allow them to capture the bulk of the most hardline Remain vote; it would differentiate them from their rivals”
………..
“It would secure column inches” and “differentiate them from their rivals”
Hmm.
That excerpt pretty much describes SNP EU election views, so where are these mystical ‘column inches’ generated by the SNP PRO REMAIN stance ?
The SNP rely on a strong message, and getting that message out locally, as we need to circumvent the rabidly anti SNP media, and results show how good we are at that.
With an even playing field media wise, imagine how much stronger we would be here !
It really begs the question, what will a Newly Independent Scotland’s media, print and visual, be like ?
As Scotland grows exponentially, free from WM restraints, the media in Scotland will lose all credibility as their previous contempt for Scotland will be there for all to see.
Independence may really be the death of print media in Scotland, and while that may seem a good thing, is it really ?
A return to actual journalism rather than the current trend for ‘Churnalism’ (as in churning out unionist party press releases unchecked), and calling them ‘facts’ or ‘news’ can only be a good thing.
I certainly do not want the current media operating in Indy Scotland, but NO media at all would be equally bad.
The National and the ‘Daily Rev’ would be a good start, despite the Daily Rev sports pages probably having a feature on what the Aberdeen tea lady had for breakfast, as a major story every Friday 🙂
BBC news, as is, would certainly not be missed by many.
Media regulation would also be needed, with perhaps a fact checking watchdog formed, and a simplified media complaints system enabled. The usual demands, like an equally prominent apology etc.
Imagine a Scotland where the media REPORT the news, rather than SHAPING the news !!
As it is, on a Thursday, we have the ridiculous situation where a BBC reporter, right after FMQ’s, TELLS US the complete opposite of what we just watched the FM say, and presents that as gospel truth when it is clearly dribbling pish from a paid state propagandist.
My kids are 29 and 24 this year, indy is more for them than me (53 this year).
That is why i fight for independence, for the generations which follow me, so they can have a fairer and better Scotland, free to grow and improve every aspect of the lives of Scots coming later, and for those here now, having the chance of a decent retirement at the very least, in a country which helps them enjoy their later years rather than actively trying to kill them off.
When my 2 are pensioners, the generation who followed them will have spent all their lives in a Scotland which has an ingrained decency and respect for others, as a societal norm.
Not too muchvto ask for, surely ?
Breeks says:
I can’t help but believe that is true.
I accept there can be different points of view, different interpretations of the same information, counter arguments, two sides to any debate.
However, that is not what we are seeing and hearing. I’m biased and very subjective in the way I view things but I just do not see the Yes-No divide as two sides of a debate. It can’t be because the No/BritNat/BBC is riddled with negative smearing, deceit, false promises, fake news, downright lies. And on our side I just don’t see the same subterfuge.
Are ALL NOs just the product of propaganda? If their believe system just ‘make believe’?
There probably is a case for a UK Union, however it is so hidden under a dung heap I never see it.
I believe the case for a Union was probably stronger under the widespread nationalisation and UK wide institutions. However with oil and Thatcherism and the EU any pro Union case all but disappeared.
The absence of a coherent case for the Union should be apparent to all, but the BritNat media hide that from many.
Take WoS and The Rev. BritNats attack the man, but never (as far as I can see) his WoS articles. That is significant.
On that tone …. DONATE IF HAVENT ALREADY DONE SO FOLKS!
geeo @ 11:53 am
You have to dig deep to find us in that Sky piece.
“Who then, in short, can defend liberal England against [Farage]? I say England deliberately, given Scots and the Welsh have their own options.”
I’d suggest that Murray is 100% a Blairite Chancer @Cubby says at 12:20 am
My best guess percentage split on the categories:
100% Incompetents
70% Blairite Chancers
30% Corbynite Chancers
Unsure of % Thugs versus % Thug appeasers/enablers (for Party Unity purposes)
Definition of Thug – “A thug is typically referred to a male or female who commits crimes for personal gain”
So if those are ‘Crimes against the best interests of the People of Scotland’ it may be higher than your 5% guess!
😉
Done thru PayPal
Keep on Keeping on!
Wow! Just got the conservative etc Ruth Party leaflet for the European election. Ruth DVidson is obsessed to the point of inanity with Nicola Sturgeon. Creepy does not cover it!
this is so disturbing
Ruth Davidson calls for post-Brexit ‘union unit’ in Whitehall
O/T.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=139426700201971&set=gm.2047266978844350&type=3&theater
The Tony Blair they dont want you’s to see .
Famous 15
Any creepy mail I send back to sender.
“The UK government needs a ‘Union delivery unit’ at its heart to ensure decision-making benefits all parts of the country, Ruth Davidson has said.”
http://archive.is/jmj5s
A Union Unit at Whitehall and a 2nd Chamber at Holyrood, methinks SuperduperDevoMaxi Vow2 time soon.
BritNats Shitting it!
🙂
Ruth Davidson, committed British Nationalist that she is, sees her chances of career advancement in a post Brexit Little England as poor. The clue us in the term “Little England” – being non-English will hamper career progression.
The solution for Ruth’s career is a Ruth, er I meant, Union delivery unit.
Welsh Sion – apologies – DUP, taken for granted they are awful! Greens and Plaid – no feck ups that I can think of…
‘Union delivery unit’ already exists – it’s called the Scottish Office.
Well well i see the tories are in more election scandal drama more votes allocated to winners than turned out to vote in Highworth council.
Now i wonder how that could happen.
https://twitter.com/PeterNicoll7/status/1128632113572352000
‘Union delivery unit’. The way I see it is … what could the Union now deliver to Scotland that couldn’t be better delivered by independence? The train’s left, the ship’s sunk, the nest has been flown, the ba’s oan the slate. It’s too late.
And, delivery by independence will be more efficient, more democratically accountable, and most important… it will be what we want, not what England grudgingly let’s us have.
Perhaps Ruth would like to begin by telling what her Union actually does for Scotland. Exactly why do they claim we are Better Together? Wonder (rhetorically) why they never seem to get a sales pitch together? Just ‘not now’ and SNPbaaad.
Re the Withdrawal Agreement Bill, commonly now referred to as the WAB in msm, just found out on Irish Border twitter, that wab is Northern Irish slang for … cock. As in look at that guy’s wab. Expect DUP MPS’ heads to explode when asked to vote for Treeza’s wab. Mwahhaha.
If you don’t follow or read Irish Border twitter, you really should, very pithy, very funny.
In other news from other parts of this Disunited Kingdumb.
4 breakaway Members of the UKIP National Assembly defect to the Brexit Party. The two remaining AMs for UKIP can no longer be considered ‘a group’ (Gareth Bennett – Leader, Neil Hamilton – THAT Neil Hamilton, for National Assembly purposes.)
Nigel Farage on ‘a walkabout’ (BBC term – isn’t it them Royals who do that sort of thing?) in Merthyr Tudful wants Mark Reckless to be the Brexit Party’s Leader in the National Assembly.
Mark Reckless – a potted history.
May 2010 (GE) to September 2014 – Tory MP for Rochester and Strood
September 2014 – Joins UKIP, Leaves Tories
November 2014 (BE) – Wins Rochester and Strood for UKIP
May 2015 (GE) – Loses seat to Tories
May 2016 (WGE) – Elected UKIP AM for South Wales East Region
April 2017 – Joins the Conservative Group (but not the Party) in the National Assembly, Leaves UKIP
April 2019 – Becomes an Independent AM, Leaves the Conservative Group of the National Assembly
May 2019 – Announced by Nigel Farage as Leader of the Brexit Party Group at the National Assembly.
Phew!
The 20% of Scotland who are hard-core yoons, consider British nationalism pretty much as a religion. These are individuals who live in an ideological world of fantasy. Best leave them to their faith, as howling at the moon is their irrational nature.
The cognitive approach to understanding religion
https://journals.openedition.org/assr/3076
And here is one for folk who don’t see the threat England’s structural racism poses to Scotland. Islamic culture is not the only culture that British nationalism is institutionally prejudiced against (see all non-English cultures).
https://www.research.manchester.ac.uk/portal/files/54508525/FULL_TEXT.PDF
Head(the ba`) yoons be coming out with all sorts of nonsense,wee Ruthie panicking trying to stick better together back together like humpty dumpty.
Jack the …. wanting a second chamber in Scotland so him and his cronies can still get pissed up on tax payers cash and block indy through it,has anybody told the wee turd that Scotland already has a second chamber its called The Electorate.
EU elections.
The turnout will be very low.
Too many commentators are making the EU elections a joint Indyref2 election.
If SNP do well they will say it matters not because of the low turnout.
If SNP do less well than expected ( less than two thirds) they will say support for indyref2 has slipped.
UK politics is a cesspit of deceit
I will vote SNP always in every election until Scotland is independent
Sadly I don’t see the EU elections helping
The brexit referendum showed what Scotland wants but it was ignored
Standby for more of the same ignorance of what Scotland wants by England
Does anyone know where Farage and his Brexit party rally is going to be when they come up to Edinburgh this Friday ?
To CameronB Brodie. 15th May 2.34pm
I will read that paper .It looks very interesting and informative.
I bet it was buried by the uni very quickly.
Thanks
English structural racism? I know I posted this in OT but not everyone visits OT.
https://www.oxfordscholarship.com/view/10.1093/0199280711.001.0001/acprof-9780199280711
Terry callachan
Thanks for your enthusiasm, fill your boots. 🙂
CameronB Brodie
I would say that its about 35% in England these are your typical union jack brexit people who think that Britain is a nation.
I usually ask them well if Britain is a nation does that mean your country England does not exist because for Britain to be a nation then England can no longer exist,so who won the world cup then in 66 ?
That really annoys them lol
And here is one for those who are convinced Islamic culture is not compatible with Christian society. You are wrong.
https://quod.lib.umich.edu/j/jmmh/10381607.0010.107/–integrating-islamic-traditions-in-modern-psychology-research?rgn=main;view=fulltext
galamcennalath says:
15 May, 2019 at 11:56 am
However, that is not what we are seeing and hearing. I’m biased and very subjective in the way I view things but I just do not see the Yes-No divide as two sides of a debate. It can’t be because the No/BritNat/BBC is riddled with negative smearing, deceit, false promises, fake news, downright lies. And on our side I just don’t see the same subterfuge.
We agree again.
To an extent, there will be a broad trade off between grey areas of Unionist argument that we will see the worst in, and grey areas of ambiguity in some of our arguments which the Unionists will seek to exploit. The same will be true for weak MP’s or MSP’s, we will naturally see their weaknesses before our own. That is the legitimate bread and butter of politics.
But in Scotland however, you can have a gigantuan betrayal like the top secret McCrone Report, verify the living embodiment of what McCrone alluded to becoming real and quantifiable in the Norwegian economy just across the North Sea, and see the huge annual revenue the Norwegians can draw from their oil compared to the miserable return on “Scotland’s” UK oil. And yet the debate here in Scotland is surreal in its lack of passion and intensity.
Look across to Norway, it’s wealth and the contentment of its people. There, but for the “grace” of Westminster, goes Scotland. Norway with oil = Scotland without Westminster.
And yet, Scotland’s Unionist community refuses to see it. You can’t even call it denial, because the McCrone Report is written by their Cabal, and the indisputable truth of it is there to be seen in Norway. There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.
What can we conclude from it all? Some of our people have been indoctrinated to believe black is white, rich is poor, and up is down… and we’re heading for a referendum where we’re going to respect how they vote because we are nominally a “democracy”.
DerekM
Cultural prejudice can be fun, if you’ve learned not to get triggered. 🙂
Happy to contribute to the cause!
Let’s get to 100k in the crowdfund to enjoy the exploding heads! Popped another wodge in.
Regarding Ruth Davidson’s call for a new union delivery unit at the heart of government following Brexit.
Presumably Ms Davidson thinks the PM’s Withdrawal Agreement will now get the green light?
If there is a ‘transitional arrangement’, there can only be two possible endings, federalism or independence.
So, can I become the first to suggest another name for the Department of the Union?
After reading about Holyrood’s new powers, and a role in joint decision making with Westminster, it would be more accurate to describe it as the Department for the dissolution of the Union.
Got Lib Dem Euro letter from Wee Willie Rennie.
Like Labour it was printed and published outside Scotland yet these subsidy junkies have the cheek to call themselves “Scottish” when they cannot organise themselves or give their business to local printers.
I hope the torrential rain on the west coast of Italy is not heading this way ?
Giro d’Italia is FAB think I might go next year
Ruth Davidson , what use will she be to England once Scotland is independent ?
None I would say I wonder if she too is looking for a university position right now ? ?
https://www.indy100.com/article/nicola-sturgeon-imposter-syndrome-mental-health-first-minister-8915041
https://twitter.com/jonlis1/status/1128606386311565312
Clapper57 @ 2.57 pm
Does anyone know where Farage and his Brexit party rally is going to be when they come up to Edinburgh this Friday ?
_______
7pm, Corn Exchange, Edinburgh.
https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/nigel-farage-announces-hes-heading-16280580
Further to the FM’s comments re.
“I don’t think there is a woman alive, particularly working-class women, who don’t experience that at some point in their lives, and probably quite regularly.”
“I just think it is natural. In some ways I think women should work to overcome that, and be encouraged to overcome it, but there is a bit of humility as well that I don’t think we should ever lose completely.”
—–
Unfortunately, the range of scientific disciplines involved in social science, means there is often multiple terms used to describe the same things. Men and women have different shaped brains , which respond differently to the physical environment in accordance with biological sex. This has major significance to theory of mind (or how we relate to the world outside our heads). Gender is the embodied social-psychology of how the individual is socially positioned within society. Gender-identity is the performance of sexist stereotypes.
https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2011-30352-004
“Help us Wullie 1p, your our only hope!” cry the BritNats.
http://archive.is/YE1kh
The last days of the “Precious Union” are an absolute laugh a minute as the powers that be tie themselves in knots of contradiction North of the border hoping to dent the SNP and YES Movement.
Heard this McDonald chiel regurgitate the “Spanish Veto” on an Indy Scotland getting into the EU as a reason he is backing the Fib Dems as THE Remain Party in Scotland so a great fit for a Party who’s Elected Representatives have only a passing acquaintance with the truth.
Oh, and “he did not want to split the remain vote in Scotland” and the fact the FibDems are a Pro-Precious Union Party, like Change UK.
The strange thing re Ruth davidson is she is’nt stupid but still continues to support the unsupportable?There is nothing in the present cluster f**k that suggests she should not be looking for an alternative path.I’m the eternal optomist so will probably hope that people such as her will see the light.
Reasons To Be Cheerful !
Scotlands GE Seat Prediction based on current polling:
https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/area_scot.html
Ian ‘Thug Life’ Murray,
Alistair The Liar* Carmichael
and
Jo ‘Vince’s Successor’ Swinson
The Last BritNats Standing with a total annihilation of Theresa May’s Red, White, Blue and Orange Forces North of the Border led by Colonel Yadaftie!
*The court observed that Mr Carmichael had told a “blatant lie” during a Channel 4 interview on Sunday 5 April 2015.
🙂 🙂 🙂
More on the FM’s comments re. women’s social empowerment.
13 Ways to Boost Your Daughter’s Self-Esteem
How to help girls build confidence based on what they can do, not what they look like
https://childmind.org/article/13-ways-to-boost-your-daughters-self-esteem/
ian macdiarmid @ 17:59,
It’s not so strange really, she is simply a prisoner of political dogma in a party that is tearing itself apart over Brexit and being overtaken on the right by a bunch of unscrupulous populists that her London masters enabled. She has nowhere to go, so can only fall back on a jaded “no to IR2” because she has nothing positive to offer.
In that respect she differs from her late oppo in NorthBritLab, Kezia, only in that the Little Corporal has been uncritically supported and enabled by the media desperate for a plausible challenger to Nicola. Except by now, due to “events”, the plausibility is looking increasingly threadbare and, well, implausible.
That’s the importance of the upcoming EU elections. It will surely demonstrate to everyone and their uncle that both the over-inflated Ruth Davidson Party and their Cartel cohorts in NorthBritLab are politically defunct.
Here’s some Constitutional Law I thought relevant, given the aggressive patriarchy the New Right are clearly determined to impose on liberal society. If they get away with it in the ‘west’, the world’s poor have no hope. Ethnicity, sex and class can not be separated, they all interact to shape the biopsychosocial nature of the human condition.
Women’s rights are human rights!
https://academic.oup.com/icon/article/12/1/4/628588
Just in case you don’t think the world has reached the “batshit crazy” mark yet.
http://archive.is/qHtcL
P.S. I hope folk clock the summitry of powerlessness between Scotland and the social vulnerability of women. Both are currently threatened by colonial totalitarianism.
I think I’ve now received all the different Party leaflets.
After I’d put on my special Sturgeon filter spectacles so I could actually begin to focus and read words on Ruth’s one other than the distracting abundance of Sturgeons, I duly note:
Number 1 on the Scottish Conservative & Unionist European list: Nosheena Mobarik – “A former Chairperson of CBI Scotland”. I wonder if she left in embarrassment…
You know, seeing that due to her Conservative Party’s internal fight between Europhiles and Eurosceptics that’s brought us the seemingly never ending crap fest of the UK leaving the EU; Businesses will now have to deal with the ongoing resultant economic hits and uncertainty caused by her Conservative Party’s actions.
For “The Party of Business” they sure haven’t thought their actions through.
What’s May’s deal, 6% contraction? The 2008 financial crash was around 2% iirc.
Number 2 on the Scottish Conservative & Unionist European list: Iain McGill – “Previously ran projects working across homelessnes”…
That’ll be the homelessness his Conservative Party have been so good at creating.
That’s job creation almost akin to someone going around smashing car windscreens and leaving their business card for…replacement car windscreens.
“working across homelessness”, you say, Dan @ 7.42 pm?
That phrase offends English syntax (as well as me).
– Trilingual professional linguist
– Member of SNP and PC
That should have read similarity of powerlessness, doh.
IMHO, British nationalism should be viewed as a learned disability. That’s no joke and neither is Scotland’s apparent sense of learned helplessness, in the face of the full-English Brexit (see BBC in Scotland for details).
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/12281587_Self-determination_and_empowerment_A_feminist_standpoint_analysis_of_talk_about_disability_American_Journal_of_Community_Psychology_285_671-695
I’m new to this site and have not paid much attention to politics in Scotland for a considerable while. However there is an election looming and for the first time ever,I find myself unsure of what to do with my ballot paper.
My main problem is with my perception of the SNP leadership’s handling of this Brexit malarky.
To me their efforts to subvert a referendum result would set a dangerous precedent, if it was not one that has already been set on numerous occasions by pro EU expansionist factions in Denmark, Ireland, Greece etc. and besides, it’s not our job to make living in the UK more palatable to the Scots.
Is the Princess of the House of Salmondini so wrapped up in her old Dynastic motto “INDEPENDENCEINEUROPE!” that Independence it’s self must be subordinate to it?
Which leads me to a couple of questions some of you SNP types might be able to answer for me.
1) Did the SNP ever officially, by way of a constitutional amendment or National Council resolution become bound to the EU come hell or high water? and I don’t mean the Council meeting that adopted the aforementioned campaign slogan as a “tactic” to steady the nerves of those wary of an independent Scotland being all alone in the big dark and scary world.
2) Did the SNP ever overturn the vote that rejected the motion that sought to create the post of “LEADER”? or did Nicola and her predecessor just assume the title and become common law “LEADERS” by habit and repute?
I genuinely do not know the answers to these questions, I have been out of the loop for too long, I am not a Unionist Troll, if you cut me…I bleed Ir’n Bru.
To CameronB Brodie….
You put so much information here I’m truly amazed , do you have all this knowledge in your head or do you sit with your head in a book and your finger on your iPad googling all day long ? ?
Mike cassidy at 3.51
Entirely acchievable. If we get the whole YES vote out on the understanding that an SNP vote can remove Tory and Labour we will get that 66%+
Danger is the Greens which is why they are being promoted across the media – to damage the SNP vote
@Welsh Sion at 7:50 pm
Re. “homelessness”.
Ne shooterez pas le messenger! C’est wot dey ecrire exactement sur la leaflets.
– Bilingual amateur linguist
– Member of The Auld Alliance
Hi Dave McEwan Hill says on 15 May, 2019 at 9:32 pm
“Danger is the Greens which is why they are being promoted across the media – to damage the SNP vote”
Yeah, but the problem is the ‘great unwashed’ who buy the Daily Record, the Express, the Star, the Scotsman, the Herald, the Sun, and so on, who don’t get the truth from WOS. Do they understand that a paper, who suddenly switches from Labour to the Greens, has an agenda, which involves splitting the pro-Scotland, pro-indy vote?
It is a war.
How do we spread the truth and get these peeps to understand that they are being manipulated?
It’s been a real tonic watching the total rise over the past couple of days.
Feeling much more positive and energetic about it all, thanks to Rev and abody who’s chipped in and made comments and wound-up the BTUKOK brigade.
Good job!
😉
Can we now all agree that The Daily Record is a Unionist snp hating rag.
I’m am doing my best to provide an alternative narrative Brian, with the aim of influencing social cognition. I appreciate some of it is highly technical but that’s not my fault. Remember, the morality of a state’s conduct is to be found in International Relations. Also, the “English School of International Relations” is ‘sketchy’ on gender. 😉
https://dspace.library.uu.nl/bitstream/handle/1874/620/full.pdf
Dan – My fire was not aimed at you. How could it be? You know as well as I do that we need to attack the Tories (and other yoons) as often and in any way possible.
I couldn’t possible shoot ze messenger anyway. I my weapons of choice are my keyboard, my right index finger and my parables and songs for indy!
Also remember that the “English School” is grounded in positivist logic. Positivism is ‘bad’, or at least it supports the status quo anyway. MK.
The Reflectivist Critique of Positivist IR Theory
https://www.e-ir.info/2011/02/27/the-reflectivist-critique-of-positivist-ir-theory/
‘Suck all the money from Scottish tennis’? Doubt it. It will increase it. Enthusiasts will stay there and support it. Lots of visitors worldwide.
UK allocation of tennis funding. £60Million. Scotland gets £800,000. Should get (pro rata) £5million+. That’s what is sucking money out of Scottish tennis. The Westminster unionists imbecile Treasury.
The Murray’s. Wimbledon, Hydro, Davis Cup. Visitors for years. Spectator revenues and receipts generated for years. TV rights and coverage worldwide. Taxes on subsidies and recepts for years. Visitor spend. Add it up over years. £Billions.
It’s a long time since I was trying to use International Relations Theory as a tool of policy analysis, but I’m not trying to sell you techno garbage.
https://dspace.library.uu.nl/bitstream/handle/1874/620/full.pdf
Olympics revenues generated worldwide. Sponsorship into Scotland. Worldwide publicity and visitor revenues.
BBC Question Time from Elgin tomorrow night.
BBC idea of political balance in Scotland.
2 Tories (including self confessed Tartan Tory Lawyer), 1 Labour, 1 Lib Dem = FOUR Unionists and some SNP guy called John Sweeney or is it Swinney or Swanny. No Green rep despite being 4th party in Scotland.
And a smidgen more IR.
https://www.e-ir.info/2012/01/20/what-are-the-benefits-and-disadvantages-of-post-positivism-for-international-theory/
Blinkin blimeyness!
Has anyone else heard about ‘Stu’s News’?
I should’ve said Blimmin Eck!
😉
And a brief insight into why positivist IR could be considered ‘problematic’.
http://semio2014.org/en/an-outline-for-a-theory-of-political-semiotics
No @Ian Brotherhood says at 11:26 pm I haven’t heard Stu’s News.
Whats the story?
To CameronB Brodie…13th May 10pm
After reading your excellent posts on internal colonisation I purchased
Internal Colonialism: The Celtic Fringe in British National Development by Michael Hechter
And
Decolonizing methodologies by Linda Tuhiwai Smith
Looking forward to them
Cheers
The dynastic family business model is teetering because of the caliber of individual in charge -a ‘racist blowhard of debatable mental stability’ – it’s a rather tainted brand with an uncanny knack of amassing large debts.
‘There is some negative connotation that is associated with the brand.
Trump has entwined his office with his private company, drawing scrutiny from congressional Democrats interested in whether his company is benefiting from that relationship. At the same time, revenue has declined at some properties dependent on blue-state customers and politics-shy national brands…By the end of 2018, the Trump hotel chain had lost three locations as building owners cut ties with the Trump company. The company’s plans for dozens of new low-cost hotels — aimed at turning Trump voters into Trump customers — had fizzled’
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-prized-doral-resort-is-in-steep-decline-according-to-company-documents-showing-his-business-problems-are-mounting/
‘When Donald Trump first opened Trump Tower, the centerpiece of his property empire, he was able to convince everyone from Steven Spielberg to Johnny Carson to Sophia Loren to pay top dollar to live in the place, with units selling for as much as $15 million. Now, thanks to a name that’s synonymous with “racist blowhard of debatable mental stability and questionable moral conduct,” not to mention a lack of updates in recent years, people can’t get away from the building fast enough’
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/05/no-one-wants-live-in-trumps-decrepit-tainted-tower-new-york
‘Brexit provided a tremendous platform for Trump: it gave legitimacy to his own call for “America First” and showed a global movement of revolt against the elite in Western democracies. Yet, in an interview to BBC Radio 4 Today, Michael Wolff, former presidential adviser and author of Fire and Fury (2018), claimed Trump did not know anything about Brexit and had never heard of the word until a few days before the crucial vote.
Trump’s U-turns on the European question since then bears evidence of his opportunism. It is no surprise then that Nigel Farage and Donald Trump are so close: as the embodiments of the rage against the system and the two populist voices in the anglosphere, they had common ideas, common targets and common objectives. And to reinforce this community of ideas, Trump invited Nigel Farage to one of his rallies in Jackson, Mississippi, on 24 August 2016. Since becoming president, Trump has met Farage several times and rumours spread that Farage could be Trump’s unofficial adviser on US/UK trade…
Donald Trump, in spite of his Scottish and German roots, is not familiar with European traditions, history, geography and culture’
https://journals.openedition.org/lisa/10235
Terry callachan
That makes me very happy. I’ve linked to that title, possibly in OT, as it sort of introduced the concept of “internal colonisation” to the world of sociology (mid-70s), if memory serves correctly.
Thank you again for your enthusiasm, I feel pretty good right now. 😉
@Jockanese Wind Talker (11.37) –
If ye’re on The Twitter it shouldn’t be hard to find out.
Otherwise, I fear I must leave you in the auld suspenders!
It’ll be worth the wait when you hear it, trust me!
And knowing this place? that won’t be too long anyway…
😉
The greatest gift for Nigel farage would be an unruly demo in Edinburgh on Friday.
The greatest insult to him would be a total no show.
Remember his face on the top deck of the bus when few turned out for his march.
Ignore him and he will cry!
IB – that’s the benefit of twitter. Hee, hee. 😉
Brian Doonthetoon @ 21:47,
Interesting to speculate how the average former Labour-faithful reader might react to their skeekit inducements. Seeing their paper switch elsewhere would surely give them a jolt and make them think. The pathetic showing of Labour re Brexit might already be making them think besides. But why would they decide to follow their paper’s “renegade” advice and vote Green?
Some (many?) might simply not bother. The more diehard BritNats among them might be seduced by the Faragists. Dedicated pro-Union Remainers might take Hothersall’s (very!) oblique advice and vote LibDem, especially given the promo the latter are getting down south.
But many Remain-inclined voters, having become detached from Labour and weighing-up who has the highest profile for their preference, are surely going to be more attracted to the SNP big hitter than to the Green low-hoper? Or am I merely indulging in the dreaded self-bias wishful thinking…?
Any idea when the tv show will be broadcast.
ACB – ah, now you’ve let the cat out of the bag. 😉
I’m sure Stuey will let us know.
I honestly didn’t know I still had it in me. 🙂
http://www.ucl.ac.uk/lagnado-lab/publications/harris/Hahn_Harris_L&M2014.pdf
Seeing as how I appear to be on a bit of a roll. Time for some Political Semiotics?
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11217-011-9225-z
If the Brexit Party got two seats in Scotland at the expense of the Tories, while on the one hand that would be appalling, on the other, it would work wonders for shifting the vast number of middle softs to Yes in a subsequent indyref.
I’ll say no more!
;-),nudge, nudge, say no more.
@CBB
You DO know, that the Callachan you are so enthused with, is a bilious, anti English bigot ?
I wouldn’t be so keen to fawn over a scumbag like that, certainly not just because he read your links.
Do you denounce callachan’s anti English bigoted views ?
To think…
Our Wings total sources sum could have already soared over 100K+
Nae mair guesses frae me fur now, we could be beyond the TON!
£90,020.18 (with 1661 donors, showing on the perk page)
geeo
Of course I don’t support bigotry but who are you and who made you yoon sniffer pursuivant? He’s shown interest in a post-colonial approach to Scotland’s circumstances, and should be encourage in seeking to broaden his understanding, IMHO.
re. “Internal Colonialism: The Celtic Fringe in British National Development” by Michael Hechter. It is a bit dated and there are questions regarding its’ methodology. The general concept is basically sound though.
https://www.palgrave.com/gp/book/9781403961839
See where Terry’s interest lead me. Sorry I can’t find an open-access pdf.
https://academic.oup.com/tcbh/article-abstract/14/3/286/1676040?redirectedFrom=fulltext
IMHO, Scotland’s circumstances are impossible to understand without reference to “internal colonisation”. 😉
https://www.euppublishing.com/doi/pdfplus/10.3366/nor.2017.0125
I’ll put money on the Brat Pack Momentum in Scotland causing a stooshie at Farage’s Corn Exchange ‘rally’ in Edinburgh tomorrow night.
The Scottish Chapter of the Brit Nat Hacks and broadcasters will of course out number the throng gathered at the feet of The British Saviour, and the Bad EssennPee will get the blame for any stage managed confrontation, scuffles, and strategic retreat into a boozer on rose street.
The Saturday Morning headlines have been written already.
The Land of ‘Wag The Dog’, in Trump’s post truth mad house.
‘Scuffles break out.’ Nicola refuses to condemn’, and so on.
It’s comin’ yet for a’ that, folks.
Donation given.
Keep at them Stu. We need your dissection of the MSM untruths.
Donation given.
Keep at them Stu. We need your dissection of the MSM untruths.
@Jack collatin
Yeah can see this coming as you say. But still the Scottish voters voted in a UKIP candidate last time. The utter buffoon David Coburn.
I dispair sometimes.
Excellent article by Laura Weddell in Scotsman on Joanna Cherry affair and well worth reading by all who have commented in the issues of bullying and gender identification
Anyone wondering the state of play in Scotland, and why the Brit Natz are getting so desperate, have a look at these projected polling figures!
https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/conlist_scot.html
David Mundell: Toast!
Ian Murray: shoogly peg!
Most Tory/Labour/Lib better together ‘partners in crime’: history!
This BBC Scotland report says the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party has held an event for their EU elections campaign launch.
It has several laugh out loud quotes from Ms Davidson, and reveals the party does not have a manifesto.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-48281678
@ geeo,
I mentioned in another thread that CBB is so desperate for attention, he would be vulnerable to some troll’s flattery, in order to use him to derail comment sections.
Unfortunately, CBB is far to pompous to realize he is being used, or perhaps is quite happy to be ‘had’ this way, in his desperation to show us all, just what a clever boy he is.
The truth be told, anyone with genuine academic background would know that academic papers are written for other academics who practice in the same field that the paper was written for.
The language used in these papers will be in the academic language of that particular field and anyone who is not familiar with that field will be soon lost in the jargon, and will quickly switch off.
The fact that CBB doesn’t know this suggests his claims of academia are false and he is either a fantasist, of the Walter Mitty variety (my own guess) or is purposely attempting t bog down these comment sections with endless threads of information (The overload technique)
Whatever his reasons, he is as thick as mince and best ignored.
TheItalianJob says:
16 May, 2019 at 7:24 am
@Jack collatin
Yeah can see this coming as you say. But still the Scottish voters voted in a UKIP candidate last time. The utter buffoon David Coburn.
I dispair sometimes
Coburn wasn’t just the UKIP Candidate, he was the BBC Candidate, the surrogate patsy to carry the flag for BritNat Xenophobia elected after the manufactured platform and outcry over the “alleged” harassment of Farage, which saw him having to “run for his life” into a pub to hide from some students and OAP’s on mobility scooters.
Jack Collatin is spot on. A contrived wee stushie had the desired effect last time…
Brace yourself Scotland, because I think there is a distinct possibility the Brexit Party will get two Bozo’s into the European Parliament on a Scottish ticket, and while less likely (because I think the SNP will get 3 MEP’s), it is still quite possible we could see the Brexit Xenophobes securing comparable representation in Europe as the SNP… a product of the contrived BritNat narrative artificially imported into Scotland by the Establishment media, and a dysfunctional Proportional Representation Voting system which is not removing the detritus which the voting electorate repeatedly rejects.
And slightly OT, but not much…. How in blue blazes can a Council election return a result where the count exceeds the number of voters? How is that actually possible without constructive manipulation and maladministration? Doesn’t it drive a coach and horses through each and every assurance that election protocols in this rotten United Kingdom are in any way sound?
The United Kingdom stinks, and I mean it really stinks. I am rapidly reaching the stage of wondering what isn’t corrupt rather than what is.
BRITAIN = ENGERLAND….AGAIN
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/may/15/britons-get-drunk-more-often-than-35-other-nations-survey-finds
NorthBrits, dont mention Scotland, on R4 Today prog. Darling, Fox on HS2/3, Brexit….. WE, WE, WE….who’s WE?
Bertie Armstrong is stepping down to spend more time with his fish.
That is unless he’s got undisclosed plans to stand as a new Tory / UKIP / Brexit Party Candidate.
I have to confess they all look the same anyway.
swinney should pull out
empty chair qt