Why won’t he just die?
Posted on
December 09, 2014 by
Rev. Stuart Campbell
Alex Salmond as the Terminator. Any way you slice it it’s a remarkable mental image from the mind of a clearly distraught James Kirkup of the Telegraph.
Apparently death wouldn’t stop him anyway. We’ve actually cut this clip before the point where the woman from the Economist calls the former First Minister a “zombie who just keeps on powering through to the end of the horror movie”. Of course, if you think of the Union as the horror movie, it’s not the worst analogy we’ve ever heard.
We asked Jim Murphy for a comment. He chose another sci-fi comparison.
And what about the other 1.6 million of us – do they want us all to just die and disappear?
Might have imagined a bit of grudging respect in amongst the fear there. Probably did. Did.
@ Luigi
That`s what I take from it as well.
Why don`t those separatists just go away and die?
“Why wont he just die?”
“You mean Go to The Lords?”
“Same thing!”
“Something about the sun and melting rocks..I couldnt really understand a word he was saying!”
So they now want Salmond to die . I wonder if the MSM will have that as headline news?
Bloody democracy, why must it keep throwing up inconveniences for the union?
There was a chopper flying above them during the interview and they were terrified Alex The Union Terminator was going to jump out and eat then.
Repugnant British nationalists sums them up. Also two bit third rate hacks who are finding that their rectal sphincter muscles have loosened somewhat with the return of Alex.
Bloody democracy, why must it keep throwing up inconveniences for the union?
Did anyone else have the wrong ballot paper in September, incidentally? My one mentioned Scotland, not Alex Salmond. Must have been a mistake at the printers.
You know what thought gladdens my heart?… The thought of Scottish Labour being obliterated in May.
He’ll be back… and he absolutely will not stop, ever, until the union is dead!
I have one question, well one question of any importance for now. 😉
Who organised the helicopter to approach the Westminster at that exact time, it was timed almost to perfection. 😉 I mean it was perfect. It managed to just about drown out the rest of complete TWADDLE that incompetent jealous non entity had to say about Alic Sammin! 😛
Sounds like oor Eck’s in coming on that chopper overhead too. I love the smell of Tory boy panic in the morning, red or blue. It smells like victory.
link to youtube.com
No wonder AyeAlba was so angry at this yesterday.
I can’t even cancel my tv licence-been there done that 🙂
Yet more confirmation if any was needed that Alex has them on the run. Isn’t that great? He caused havoc last time he was in Westminster & is about to do the same again. One thing is for sure Alex will land far more hits than he takes. He doesn’t conform to type so he has them worried. Hell of a compliment really. Mr Salmond I salute you-go get ’em.
Oh & thanks to Moira for supporting you. She must be a saint!
Time to stock up on popcorn 🙂
Awww, you cut the zombie bit out! I was looking forward to that.
I do get the impression that londonites really, really don’t like our lovely ex First Minister. He seems to haunt them in a strangely unfathomable way.
Braw.
Totally sick of these people, they are so up themselves they don’t even see it.
Jeez they really have double standards. Imagine if we said this about anyone on the No side. The yes side has been consistent about this though – the only way to get rid of Salmond was to vote yes. Since that option is off the table there is no way to get rid of him my no voting friends.
@Luigi
As for the “the other 1.6 million of us”…hasn’t the tried & tested ‘famine’ approach been re-introduced upon us to sort that one out?
…and I’m talking about the Smith Commission recommendations which seem to have the intent of breaking us down.
My comments don’t seem to be showing for some reason.
Pity we cant get that on a leaflet, A.S has only just announced he is standing and already the unionists are running scared of the man, you can bet your bottom dollar (our currency of the future) they will form all sorts of alliances, deploy all sorts of dirty tactics, use their BBC and MSM propaganda machine, and throw the whole house at stopping him from going to WM.. Looking forwards to democracy in action in the Gordon seat
Why will this man not die? and the answer is (please excuse
the mix of film genre’s… sci fi with sword and sandals)
Because I AM SPARTACUS!
This is what these cretins at the telegraph etc do not understand. its not about the person its about an idea ! the idea will never die the only dead around is the unionist parties….. the walking dead !
The ever-widening social and political differences between Scotland and England continue to be exposed.
They are scared.
He won’t stop he gets what he wants.
I thought that was what real politicians with commitment did?
Ah, these are London politicos and commentariat.
A Politician with principles?
They are scared
Perhaps we could market a game with wee pop up alecsamins, you know! a bit like whack a mole . . be a great fundraiser
I’m curious.
Is it just me, probably 😉 , but what on earth was that twat going on about Alic Sammin resigning and he should just go away?
As far as I can recall the ONLY resigning Alex Salmond has done is to resign as FIRST MINISTER and resign as LEADER of the S.N.P. Now I know I’m dumb, the Rainbow Communist party keep telling me I’m dumb, but at what point does resigning as First Minister and/or resigning from party leadership require the resignee to resign from front line politics?
I guess Magrit Curran’s bus will be along an a few minutes to finish off the job.
@ Helena Brown says:
9 December, 2014 at 3:20 pm
Totally sick of these people, they are so up themselves they don’t even see it.
Helena, they no longer feel it either.
Quite a common condition at Westminster and in the London press.
I can’t believe they broadcast that. It’s like hate crime – as standard discourse in the BBC. Was that the BBC? They clearly don’t understand the principles of democracy. Not surprising in a state run by corporations – which is the basic meaning of fascism.
If you don’t want SNP politicians cluttering up your gin palace, stop campaigning against independence you muppets!
BtP so true
Why do we allow ourselves to be ruled by these people, have we no self respect or dignity.
Just when you think the BBC couldn’t stoop any lower.
It’s absolutely fucking outrageous.
Can you imagine the uproar if ANY SNP member said that about anyone?
Oh Yes civilisation as we know it ended when those councillors burned the Smith front page.
What can be done in the face of such hatred?
If I was Alex, I would not be rushing to go through the Clyde Tunnel in a taxi ! Accidents do happen.
To be fair to the telegraph knob (can’t believe I just said that) he was claiming to echo what Labour high heid yins were saying. Pretty much exactly what you’d expect from Labour.
I’d love someone to photoshop an Alex Salmond/Terminator mash up with the caption “And he absolutely WILL NOT stop until U.K.’s dead”.
The lack of empathy, understanding, even self awareness is breathtaking.
Self obsessed, thoughtless arseholes, the lot of them.
I hope Alex Salmond turns the commons world inside out. The shock’ll do them some good.
I wonder how far the British State would go to ensure he doesn’t win?
SNP & GREENS more than tripled membership,referendum didn’t kill Independence,it gave it a rebirth.
Many Unionists now wish Scottish Parliament wasn’t born
make it a stark choice
Of course Labout H.Q. want him dead. Quite a risky strategy to let James Kirkup broadcast it to the whole nation though. There’s all sorts of nutters out there.
I don’t think anyone would notice the difference if James Kirkup died.
I don’t think anyone would notice the difference if James Kirkup died.
I don’t think anyone would notice the difference if James Kirkup died.
I don’t think anyone would notice the difference if James Kirkup died.
The Terminator ( Arnold Schwarzenegger ):
“Hasta la vista, baby.”
Yep! They reckoned after the referendum was over all the uppity Jocks would just be returned to their box and buried out of sight for ever.
They can’t seem to come to terms with, or grasp that, democracy is about having elections/referendums in order that the will of the people be known – Unless it’s Scotland’s people whose voices, as far as those living inside the London bubble are concerned, should not be heard.
The Scene:
A Family Home…Xmas Day…A man picks up a present wrapped in Blue White and Red gift wrap. His loving wife looks on..
WIFE: “Who is that one for love?”
HUSBAND: “Me I think. It just says ‘For Salmond'”
( He unwraps the paper revealing a heavy grey object and a card)
WIFE:“What is it?”
HUSBAND:“Err, a rock i think?”
WIFE:“What’s that with it?”
HUSBAND: “Instructions it seems. it just says ‘Please crawl under!'”
or …….
“Listen and understand. That Terminator is out there. It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.”
Love it. Dalex Salmond……Extrapolate.
Can nobody stop him!
Helena Brown says:
“Totally sick of these people, they are so up themselves they don’t even see it.”
I think they call it Sphincteritis Clapidosis, Helena.
🙂
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Alexandra-M- says:
“My comments don’t seem to be showing for some reason.”
I can see both your post’s perfectly well, Alexandra.
😉
I’ll bet that was Alex’s helicopter flying overhead, surveying his new battleground, while that asshole was spewing his crap.
Now we have a one of the suspects for Willie MacRae’s fate.
If Alex was a Zombie he would already be dead (do the MSM not check anything they say, lazy journalism at its worst).
Anyhoo a `Zombie Terminator`sounds fricken awesome maybe Alex could be sent back in time to before Black Thursday and Wreak Havoc with the Unionist ("Tractor" - Ed)s and thereby changing the course of history in Scotland.:)
Whit condescending prattle. A kirkup the jacksie that lad needs.
But it’s so inconvenient for these types to have to face the fact there’s a world beyond the neat wee bubble they inhabit. Shocking. People thinking for themselves. They can’t get their heads around it.
It’s hilarious, the outrage.
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Yesitis says:
9 December, 2014 at 3:13 pm
@ Luigi
That`s what I take from it as well.
Why don`t those separatists just go away and die?
Unfortunately for them, the average NO voter is much older than the average YES voter. They will disappear first.
And in the blue corner, representing posh twats and racist anti-immigrants everywhere and ignorant farmers, hailing from fk knows where:
link to colinclark.org.uk
‘loose’
He better learn how to spell lose.
Ach, get tae hell, James Kirkup, I did the Alex Salmond/Terminator analogy over a month ago!
link to wildernessofpeace.wordpress.com
Foolish Britnats, don’t they realise Cybernat Systems Model 101 follows a strict programme?
IF SCOTLAND INDEPENDENT retire.exe (run) [golf]
IF SCOTLAND [NOT] INDEPENDENT campaign.exe (open) [shutdown]
IF SCOTLAND [NOT] ERRORLEVEL (1) udi.exe (execute) [freedom]
Listen, and understand. That nationalist is out there. He can’t be bargained with. He can’t be reasoned with. He doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And he absolutely will not stop, ever, until Scotland is independent.
To be fair I suspect that the helicopter was one from the Met. Police. I understand they had received information, anonymously 😉 , that there was a HIGH level threat to intelligent broadcasting and to be on the look out for two questionable characters in the vicinity of Westminster green spouting shite! 😛
Luigi says:
9 December, 2014 at 3:10 pm
And what about the other 1.6 million of us – do they want us all to just die and disappear?
Yes please, Jocko. And be quick about it too, see?
‘Then Caesar lolled on his ivory throne –
His iron legions came,
To break a king in a land unknown,
And a race without a name.’
Robert E. Howard. (The Song of Bran Mak Morn. The last Pictish king.)
They won’t break Alex and they won’t break us, and by the end of May next year they WILL know our land and the name of our race.
BtP so true, and Stoker am I right that this can only be caught by the Metropolitan elite ( or those who think they are).
It is such a really weird Tory Boy world, with Cameron begging Scotland “to stay” in run up to referendum Project Fear hysteria, because he loves Scotland but only some of us though. We want you to stay, not you though you can die, we want you to stay OO, but not you either, you’re a sep, we want you to stay but vote for blue tory and future Lord Eggs Murphy, he’s the man to save Blue Tory right to reign over you.
If any Labour in Scotland voters are watching this…
Alex just keeps fighting for what he believes in. Now if only Britain had adopted such tactics during WW2!
The BBC have, on two occasions over the course of the last few days, been openly complicit in this BritNat hate-fest towards Alex Salmond.
What exactly has he done wrong to deserve this? He had the bloody nerve to put forward his name as a candidate for a parliamentary election. This, in a country where we welcome free speech and encourage political diversity. Is this the Great Britain that our forefathers fought and died for? Oh, the irony!
Alex Salmond has really got under their skin with this one. And yet:
He hasn’t formally been adopted as the Gordon candidate
He hasn’t even won the seat
I fear that there will be much more of this bile against AS and NS. What these metropolitan luvvies don’t realise its that their vitriol will actually work against them. Most of us Jocks ain’t as daft as they think.
Based on the recent antics of the MSM, anyone think that the SNP will get to take part in the televised Leader’s debates?
“Alex the Separator”
I love how the BBC continually get newspaper hacks (i can’t use the word journalist as that would be an outright lie) to spout their opinion on their news.
And that’s just it. It’s an opinion. There is no fact based in that opinion.
The BBC seems more inclined to report spurious opinion that factual matters, and as they never tire of pointing out on their website – The BBC is not responsible for views from.. blah blah blah..
They are c**ts at the BBC.. But then that’s just my opinion and in no way reflects the views of the hosting site on which I choose to air those views.
So – if we say anything negative – we’re hateful cybernats
If the BBC and Bitter Together wage what is essentially a campaign of personal abuse…
it’s jounalism?
The best we can hope for is a large SNP block to Westminster and watch the wheels come off in 2015
Come on, be fair, there was more than a hint of jealousy there. These people have Cameron, Clegg and Milliband the lesser as their leaders – if they lose or disappear for even a short while the 2 Cs and the F minus will be utterly and thankfully forgotten – at lightning speed.
Led by these to a degree cunning but visionless leaderlings, how do you think they feel when a leader actually takes responsibility for defeat by resigning, joins in the acclamation of a possibly even fiercer leader and then announces he is joining a horde of the “defeated” to take the battle inside the enemies gates. They can smell historical inevibility being made and the scent is not to their liking.
Brian Mr Salmond @ Westminster…….
Wonderful news for Scotland, a brilliant politician right in
the centre of Westminster. They will be held to answer in the
future. N.Ireland was promised to set our own Corporation Tax
probably at 12.5% so that the whole island will have an equal
rate. It now has conditions on other matters nothing to do
with the tax before it becomes law. Other politicians other
than conservative and their friends labour need to be there WM
to monitor the govt & Opposition. two of a kind
Something wrong with that woman’s neck?
They’re scared alright. The last thing those nest featherers want is someone telling it like it is. He’s worth more than the whole pathetic lot of them put together.
AS being at Westminster can only be a good thing for Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales and the north of England. But…not for the only people who count, tax dodging London tories.
And they wonder why 1.6 Million voted YES ? Where’s Lee Harvey Oswald when you need him ? Hurricane Alex will get them telt’
Taranaich @ 4:04pm
I have a feeling that in 2015, we will see a brand new model appear in 2015, with awesome firepower and capable of thriving in a hostile, Westminster environment.
No prisoners will be taken.
Hang on, I’m confused. I’m now supposed to cheer on Skynet and the Daleks? If things carry on like this, will I be expected to start rooting for Darth Vader?
Time to nip this in the bud. The Borg are evil, there’s no two ways about it. The Borg are evil because they are the LibLabCons.
Resistance, however, is proving to be far from futile…
Sorry, sorry, always O/T 🙂
Some interesting reading from Electoral Calculus
link to electoralcalculus.co.uk
Has there been a poll asking the simple question “Should Scotland be an Independent Country?” in recent weeks?
It was Y:N perhaps 55:45 on 5th Sept
Then the flood of promises
It was Y:N 45:55 on the big day
The promises have been shown to be DevoFA. Federal Brown is a liar who’s gone into hiding. More austerity is on the way. WM is full of Tories Red & Yellow & Blue.
So, Y:N now?
If it hasn’t gone back over 50% yet, it will.
Then watch all those smug MSM ba5tards squirm.
Yea, tick tock tock
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JBS,
Resistance is fertile.
@ Helena, Re: Sphincteritis Clapidosis.
Some of us believe it is hereditory, (deliberate sp),
while others believe they are born with it.
Very little is currently understood of the condition,
outwith Unionist circles.
What we do know, however, is that its rife throughout
the Unionist communities and there seems to be no desire
to take preventative measures against passing it on.
🙂
Yesitis says: 9 December, 2014 at 3:13 pm
“the average NO voter is much older than the average YES voter. They will disappear first.”
I worked it out. Applying the mortality rates for the 65+ age group x cohort of the Scottish population over 65 x referendum turnout = just over 14,000 No voters depart this life each month, compared to around 5,000 Yes voters.
Slow, but sure.
OT: If you have a strong stomach or a wicked sense of humour check out the latest pleading from “confident and patriotic” Jim Murphy on labourlist.org
It’s obvious Murphy believes he has won the leadership contest. Has he “checked” the postal votes already?
Always a pleasure to see another Howard fan, The Rough Bounds! Though I’d like to think Mr Salmond would be more successful than the tragic Bran Mak Morn, fated to be the last great king of the Picts…
@The Rough Bounds
“Kings of the Night, Worms of the Earth” some of Howard`s best.
Democracy?
X_Sticks says:
Some interesting reading from Electoral Calculus
link to electoralcalculus.co.uk
WOW X_Sticks.
36 S.N.P. GAINS plus the original 6 S.N.P. seats out of a total of 59 seats!
17 seats left to be fought out between the Communist party, sorry One Nation party sorry One party sorry Lib/Lab/Con/UKIP party! 😛
If my maths are correct we end up with:
1 Lib Dem
3 Tories
13 Labour
Oh I think we are in for some REALLY interesting times ahead. 😀
“If you don’t want SNP politicians cluttering up your gin palace, stop campaigning against independence you muppets!”
🙂 can i nominate this for the ‘short and sweet’ comment of the day
@Lesley-Anne
Aye LA and there are a few othwer seats in there that may not be a safe as they think 😀
Oh, and remember how they told us that Scotland could only be secure in the union? Well, this from the BBC website live feed:
“16:39: Submarine sighting Jonathan Beale Defence correspondent, BBC News Britain had to call in the help of aircraft from the US, France and Canada following a reported sighting of a submarine periscope off the west coast of Scotland.
The Ministry of Defence (MOD) will not confirm they were looking for a foreign submarine, but in a statement the MOD said it “requested assistance from allied forces for basing maritime patrol aircraft at RAF Lossiemouth for a limited period”. Britain no longer has any maritime patrol aircraft of its own.
The sighting was reported late November and the search continued until the first week of this month.
At the height of the hunt, two US Navy P-3 Orions, a Royal Canadian Airforce Aurora and a French Dassault Atlantique were involved in the search.”
Aye, I feel so safe when we need baled out by the US, Canada and France because the union is fkd.
Can you imagine the response if, say, Jim Sillars were
to say on a live news item ‘Oh why doesn’t the Queen just die?’.
There would be uproar & parliamentary questions and general hysterics.
But it’s Alex Salmond they’re talking about so that’s ok then.
Wait for this Kirkup to complain that cybernats wish him death. And all the media will be reporting about how these disgusting these cybernats are!
Lesley-Anne says:
9 December, 2014 at 4:58 pm
..and x-sticks
If you look at the Labour seat showing as “held” it is by a thin thread for many of them.
I wonder just how comfortable Labour supporters are using Tory activists to support them.
What the London media, as well as several correspondents above, overlook is that though Yes “lost”,a No vote was no longer for the status quo but forDevo Max. So rather than 1.6 million supporting what Alex is trying to achieve (ie DevoMax), there are more like 2.5 million wishing him success!
Shows some of the advantages of being on the front foot – catch the opponent off guard, unprepared, force him into an uncomfortable position.
These are basic McTernan tactics – I just wish the Indy movement would learn from them.
And then some.
you lost he says GO BACK IN YOUR BOX and be ruled like good little peasants.
they’re still in denial, bless.
our movement is not about one man nor the snp.
this is not a synod, but a 1.6m++ peoples movement.
popularity is now a curse and now we should all vote for who we don’t want, meaning that the least popular party is elected. doesn’t that make the least popular party popular, if we all vote for it??
or are they calling the scottish people morons by implication, yes that’s it.
we demand that you forget your big ideas of social justice and fair play for all.
that you all lay before your imperial masters.
please we beg you don’t come down to WM and disturb our lavish lifestyles.
X_Sticks says:
@Lesley-Anne
Aye LA and there are a few other seats in there that may not be a safe as they think 😀
Clootie says:
Lesley-Anne says:
..and x-sticks
If you look at the Labour seat showing as “held” it is by a thin thread for many of them.
Clootie and X_Sticks I thought that when I was doing my *ahem* sums. 😉
Methinks there are more than a few extremely squeaky One Party bums on seats at this time. 😛
Alan
The trouble is muppets like these think that Scotland is just the northern part of their green and pleasant land and therefor Eck is a dangerous man.
And they are right 🙂 He’s coming to eat you and your bairns! (metaphorically speaking of course. Wouldn’t want to offend)
No no no…Yes
What exactly has he done wrong to deserve this?
Challenged the British states’ rule over Scotland is the short answer.
The stench that is Westminster and pawns amount to only one thing – a hatred of democracy when it works against their warped ambitions.
Don’t forget, the uneducated, the fearful, and the plain idiotic voted to allow morons such as Kirkup to utter fetid crap with impunity.
He has 2.5 million people behind him … or so he presumes.
The establishment clearly see Salmond as the keystone to the independence campaign and the biggest single threat to the Union. Every cause needs a leader and a figurehead. And at the moment Salmond still represents a vision of a better future.
He needs to watch his back. Helicopters are particularly prone to ‘accidents’.
And don’t bother looking for my tinfoil hat. I don’t trust Westminster and the establishment. They will do whatever it takes to maintain this Union.
In 1944, the partisans in Greece were caught by surprise when Churchill sided with the German Collaborators and the British Army shot a few demonstrators in Athens. Churchill preferred to see the German collaborators in power as a means to returning the Greek King. He thought the resistance fighters too close to communism.
Oh my how the people are still surprised by the treachery and deceit of politicians.
I don’t normally swear in comments, but, jeez, what a wanker
1.6 mill terminators coming for this phony union..
Just heard the BBC are extending their programming hours over the period of the General Election in order to more thoroughly report the proceedings, I think we all know what that’s about. Well we shall see…”I am Alex Salmond”
The degree of hatred and venom from the unionist side makes me worried his polonium tea might be out.
The BBC are leading the charge. Every morning the Tokyo Kay’s call in is entirely focused on how the Salmond led Scottish government are:
• Reducing drink limit – an attack on our freedom
• Causing large queues at A&E – and the doctor was mean to me
• Introducing average speed cameras – attack on freedom
• Alcohol pricing – I can’t remember their point on that
This daily diet of anti Scottish government drivel delivered by the BBC
If he were to have an “accident” they would declare a national holiday
I was going to put this on the Labour/Tory Girl thread but it probably makes as much sense here:
The worst thing about things like this is that it’s like they’re viewing Scotland’s future like an “auld firm rivalry”; pick your team and then hope you beat the other side no matter what. It’s like it’s a game to them; they don’t seem to think about the issues in any meaningful way at all or care that we’re talking about things that will affect generations to come. They just want to beat the “other side”. They’re so deeply tribal that I don’t think they’d ever consider actually listening to the arguments with an open mind.
Labour have been doing the “support your team no matter what” thing for years, where anything SNP/Not Them is bad just because it’s the “other side”. Lots of things, politically, have upset me since the referendum but this sort of thing always makes me feel just that bit worse; I don’t like feeling as though I’m fighting with my own people and Labour have been doing everything they can to turn this into a fight instead of a discussion. That’s yet another thing I’ll never forgive them for.
The Telegraph buffoon is merely articulating official Labour Party policy.
Mind when Stairheid voiced a desire that Salmond should fall under a bus?
If election calculus continues to make these types of predictions there’s going to be a lot of squeaky bums slipping off the gravy train. Don’t feel sorry for them though-they’ll still get better pensions than you & I.
I think I can see a new line in T-Shirts and Sweatshirts appearing somewhere near us quite soon.
Forget the “I am Spartacus” line folks there is a new line in town and it is “I am Alex Salmond” 😛
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Is that a ventriloquist or a nodding donkey beside him?
I cannot get over the vile, putrid hatred of a man who has not even been elected yet!
British Nationalism at it’s rancid best
They really thought it was all over. For a few happy days in October, English academics were chirruping excitedly about the “post-Scotland devolution agenda”.
@ Derick Fae Yell: Aye thanks a bunch, as one in the category of 14,000 Seniors who “pass over” each month I will try to hang on so I can campaign and then vote SNP in May.
Listening to Master Kirkup, ever considered how it must have been to be a citizen of India during the Raj with such chinless nonentities lording it? – You are a fine drummer Gunga Din, as a prince.
During my various Middle East assignments, the locals, and workers from diverse countries, and me, did used to enjoy observing the English “maintain standards”, like wearing a tie in the blistering heat. My “foreigners” really enjoyed and identified with Braveheart – don’t cringe – and their response when we had some contractual difficulties would be “Boss, we fight?”
It really is time we asserted ourselves. Speak, use and enjoy Scots and Gaelic. Celebrate our art and culture. In music jamming sessions folk will sing American and Irish folk songs but not Scots. ever wondered why? Oh and vote for independence candidates in the, hopefully, last UK General Election.
The Onions could have saved themselves ah lot of trouble they could have offered Alex Salmond the Stoat Coller if you dont ask you dont git & the gits dont git it yit,Alex is coming be afraid be very afraid BOO.
FFS, these people are disgusting, and I agree, it is like hate crime, they are continually using this type of language, to bring it into everyday usage. Project Fear 2.0.
When you think what people like Gideon and IDS, are subjecting the vulnerable of this country to, its an absolute disgrace, the way they speak of AS.
I think that’s what really gets me. They know they can say these things with impunity. In their eyes, we are the trailer trash of the UK.
Thankfully the drone of the helicopter, drowned out, erm… his drone.
Shug,
They only do it because they’re scared witless. They know, probably better than most, just what a formidably great politician and leader he is – he’s respected worldwide and despite being FM since 2007 is still very popular in Scotland (a thing unheard of in their experience of WM). Since they’re scared and they know he’d win the arguments (because he’s telling the truth) they have no other option other than to try and demonise him. It’s a backhanded compliment.
Now wait to see what they do with FM Sturgeon; they don’t have long before the next UK-wide election to do it and they’ll have to be careful not to be seen to be sexist about it but they’ll certainly try to convince people that she’s Satan’s bride or something. I think she was a surprise to them because I think they thought Alex Salmond would never stand down whilst so popular (no WM politician would). So they haven’t quite worked out their strategy against her but you can see it starting already. So I guess we won’t have time to get nostalgic for the “Salmond Accused” stories because we’ll have plenty of “Sturgeon Accused” stories to come.
They just don’t get it…
Even if the man dies
THE DREAM SHALL NEVER DIE
O/T Again stew, looks like we are indeed “better together”, well that’s if you include France, Canada , and the U.S.A., why?, well the M.O.D. Had to call these country’s aircraft in, to look for a possible submarine , as a periscope had been spotted off the west coast of Scotland,
And of course we all remember seeing the Nimrods being broken up, ach you really could not make this up even for a child’s story book!,
Where’s Lee Harvey Oswald when you need him ?
But LHO didn’t shoot anyone, well not on the 22nd Nov 1963 anyway 🙂
Their main focus will be on defeating Alex in the GE and will hopefully lead to them taking their eye of the ball elsewhere.
Why can’t the union just die…
Kirkup is guilty of uttering hate language in a public place.
Had he worn a tea towel on his head and sported a beard he’d be arrested for incitement.
The absolute last thing the Great Leader was going to do was resign and disappear. Nobody in Scotland would have been under any illusion about that. So the real criticism of the journo in the clip is that he has little grasp of the realities of politics here.
As to the die comment. If I hadn’t watched the clip I would have taken umbridge. But Eck is not likely to run off crying. Perhaps we should all fuss about it and demand the journo’s suspension. After all its a heinous crime to burn a trashy report or send a picture of a white van in some places nowadays.
I suspect it shows Eck is getting to them. Like Bruce’s spider. He does not give in. What an inspiration of a man.
Alex Salmond’s declaration of intent to stand seems to have triggered Westminster’s DEFCON system to activate.
link to wikihow.com
DEFCON (short for “defense readiness condition”) scale is a measure of the level of alertness of the nation’s defence forces.
The DEFCON scale uses a minimum of 5 (for normal peacetime status) and a maximum of 1 (for situations of global severity, like Alex Salmond advancing on London with his briefcase, like Scottish Independence or nuclear war).
DEFCON Level Reference Guide[1]
5 Normal peacetime readiness; Reason- The Scots are asleep.
4 Increased intelligence-gathering and security measures;
Reason – the Scots have woke up; someone said the Independence
word.
3 Armed forces readiness increased above normal levels;
Air Force ready to mobilize in 15 weeks .
Reason – SNP membership approaches 100,000;
Labour opposition collapses; England defenceless along
it’s northern border.
2 High readiness; armed forces ready to deploy in six
weeks;
Reason – Labour forces wiped out in Scotland at GE15; WM leaders
retreat to underground bunker to prepare for ground war.
1 Maximum readiness; all forces ready for combat;
Reason – Independence imminent or likely; trident nuclear
submarines stationed somewhere near the Clyde – warheads
armed. The PM Nigel Farage crosses the border at the head of
the Armed Forces in 600 armoured troop carriers. He stops at
Carlisle first for a pee, a pie and a pint with his fag.
X_Sticks says:
Some interesting reading from Electoral Calculus
link to electoralcalculus.co.uk
I particularly like the result in the Gordon constituency! 🙂
Sorry for O/T here folks but apparently that extremely nice Labour Councillor Willie Young has apologised for his tweet about Mark MacDonald so every thing is okey dokey. Nothing to see here move along now! 😉
link to bbc.co.uk
@Kirsty – we’ll have plenty of “Sturgeon Accused” stories to come.
This cracker caught my eye the other day, it was front page headline on Scottish Express. It has two of WoS favourite waste of space troughing MSP’s not missing a chance to have a wee dig as our FM is now responsible for mongooses farting
link to archive.today
As ever there’s a Python for this situation. In the Grail(?) there was an “I’m not dead yet” song. Appropriate as WM treats us as plague carriers 🙂
From the Torygraph comments
A pretty little girl named Annie was sitting on the pavement in front of her home.
Next to her was a basket containing a number of tiny creatures; in her hand was a sign announcing FREE KITTENS.
Suddenly a line of big cars pulled up beside her.
Out of the lead car stepped a grinning man.
“Hi there little girl, I’m Ed Miliband.
What do you have in the basket?” he asked.
“Kittens,” little Annie said.
“How old are they?” asked Miliband.
Annie replied, “They’re so young, their eyes aren’t even open yet.”
“And what kind of kittens are they?”
“Labour supporters,” answered Annie with a smile.
Miliband was delighted.
As soon as he returned to his car, he called his PR chief and told him about the little girl and the kittens.
Recognizing the perfect photo op, the two of them agreed that he should return the next day;
and in front of the assembled media, have the girl talk about her discerning kittens.
So the next day, Annie was again on the pavement with her basket of “FREE KITTENS,”
when Milliband’s motorcade pulled up, this time followed by vans from BBC, ITV, ABC, CNN and Sky News,
Cameras and audio equipment were quickly set up, then Miliband got out of his limo and walked over to little Annie.
“Hello, again,” he said, “I’d love it if you would tell all my friends out there what kind of kittens you’re giving away.”
“Yes sir,” Annie said. “They’re SNP supporters.”
Taken by surprise, Ed stammered, “But…but…yesterday, you told me they were LABOUR SUPPORTERS.”
Little Annie smiled and said, “I know.
But today, they have their eyes open.”
How fitting of them to use the terminator analogy….Arnie (Alex) was seen as the bad guy until the realisation sunk in that he was actually trying to save us from a self inflicted westminster implosion…judgement day will still come….
Will he be back? Bloody right he is!!
X_Sticks, great stuff from the electoral Calculus, however I hae my doubts, hopefully my pessimism is proved wrong and we do make all those gains, but I cant help but think that the actual results although better than ever before, will allow the other side to claim that our bubble has burst.
Lets hope not.
@Lenny Hartley
We only have to pass 11 to claim better than ever 🙁
How’s that safety and security in the teamGB working out proud Scot buts? What a bloody farce and all thanks to our imperial masters in London.
link to aviationweek.com
John Young -that’s brilliant-thanks
manandboy-If it gets to DefCon 2 I’m coming up there to join you all 🙂 Not missing that for anything!
On the subject of Westminster, is this Britain’s wackiest election?
link to parliament.uk
2 hereditary crossbench peers have died and are to be replaced by a vote by their, erm, peers.
There are 18 candidates and 28 electors – some of their supporting statements are laugh out loud stuff, one chap even tells us he played rugger for the first XV. One guy called L Sempill fancies himself to be just the ticket to sort out the constitutional crisis in Scotland.
Read those CVs and weep, Lord Ffoulkes!
I think this is a statement that should be taken seriously.
Are we as usual just supposed to shut up and accept it?
There are enough BritNats out there who don’t need much winding up, you should see some of the responses from them on twitter if you disagree with their love of the UK.
Historywomen – said the UK needs to be maintained no matter what.
link to twitter.com
If something, god forbid, happen to AS that eejit Kirkup should be held responsible
The problem for them is that if he did die, the reaction would be so powerful that Sturgeon could declare UDI with 80%+ support. I’m sure his life has been investigated thoroughly and there are no skeletons to expose. He is a hugely successful leader. There’s no way of beating him.
Croompenstein,
That is a cracker. I knew it’d be good as soon as I saw the “rock star” t-shirts bit at the start and it didn’t disappoint! The best bit was the irony of the Tory talking about the “bounds of taste”. Loved it.
It seems that all colours of Tory had to surf the Net to find outrage in a video of 3 councilors burning some paper in a bin.
How about the BBC Propaganda machine broadcasting a Death Wish
on one of the most honorable politicians the country has ever had?
The National needs to ensure that these stories are carried on a daily basis. The Telegraph and the BBC live happily in the sewers.
News tonight :Big burd smirk over wave power company problems and laughs at the Saudi Arabia of renewables aspirations
Someone posted on here just after Alex’s resignation speech “I AM ALEX SALMOND” and the thought of having that on a thousand t.shirts and standing in front of that dooshbag after asking why he isn’t dead would be priceless. Who’s in?
Why not see if the National will run with the story of how this scumbag wishes death on Alex Salmond. Absolutely disgusting thing to say so let’s see the colour of the National’s money!
O/T
Andy Wightman takes Daily Fail to task on Nicola & Sovereign Grant article. Doesn’t mince his words.
link to andywightman.com
Channel Four news featuring post ref rise of snp and what can labour do to stem the tide. On sometime before 7.50. Now dealung with US waterboarding
These WM centric morons really don’t get it yet and right about now my store of sympathy and understanding is completely used up.
From that bigoted halfwit Stanley who couldn’t tell the difference between a referendum and an election to Mr Kirkup’s appalling wittering in the piece ATL they still haven’t spotted the ‘bleedin’ obvious’.
Alex Salmond isn’t driving the UK toward separation and never was, they are and people just like them.
The arrogance, the condescension, the lack of empathy, understanding or humility. That self centred, tunnel-visioned sense of big smoke, fucking entitlement. The sense that nothing and no one outside of their bubble matters. It can’t be important its somewhere else or it can’t be important because its someone else. Who cares what they think they’re only… (fill in people, group, politics, religion to suit).
We so need to rattle their cosy wee world next year, for so long as the usual feeble forty get sent down, this attitude toward Scotland, its people, politics and culture won’t change. These pricks need reminded that so long as this union lasts, then they’re in a partnership and you never, but never take your partner for granted.
@Ericmac
He needs to watch his back.
__________
I seriously think he does indeed. Remember the suspicion surrounding the death of William Macrae.
I want an “I am ALEX SALMOND” T-Shirt
Can we have his head photoshopped on top of Kirk Douglas’ Body?
Guys,
I’ve been busily ploughing away with a magazine project that has been launched last week.
We are a grass roots funded team that offers a Pro Scotland Magazine which is Free of Charge.
If you like it, support us, if not, then no loss to you.
http://www.iscot.scot
Thanks for allowing this post Stu
Yours aye Kendo
So – am I right in thinking that the largest left of centre party in the UK after the next GE could well be the SNP?
Listening to Sky News this morning a reporter referred to Kate, on her trip to the US, as the “Future Queen of England” Do you think this an omen or just another derogatory remark?
The reason? They’re scared shitless of him. Despite everything they threw at him, he keeps coming back. Despite winning, they act like losers. They act like losers because deep down they know they didn’t win anything. They just got to keep this wretched union going for a wee while longer. They’re scared that they didn’t do enough to settle it for a couple years, let alone a generation. Deep down they’re scared shitless.
So they keep acting like victims. They keep portraying the UK as a victim under the banner of Better together.
UK? OK?
No.
First they told us there was no one on the Grassy Knoll, they said Artificial Sweeteners were safe, they said Anna Nicole married for love, that’s the Establishment for you, DYA BELIEVE EM , WELL, DO YA…I am Alex Salmond…
James Kirkup needs to learn that it’s not just Alex Salmond who won’t go away. The whole Yes movement will never go away.
Can’t believe he actually said that he wants Alex Salmond to die,even as a joke ffs. I think that should just about guarantee Alex Salmonds return as an MP.
Perfectly entitled to stand as a UK citizen,shouldn’t have helped out the naysayers if you didn’t want him to return. He (and we) aren’t going away,did they actually think we would lol? Establishment fear,that’s what it is.
Have composed angry hard copy letter to Telegraph editor demanding he reprimand Kirkup. Will mail tomorrow.
More news when I have it …
The English think that Scotland can be sorted and put back the way it was.
We, meanwhile, have passed the tipping point beyond which things can never be the same again.
An immovable English object against an irresistible Scottish force.
I think we need a few more to join the force.
Doesn’t this come under the new Hate Crimes law?
link to scotland.gov.uk
Wee Jonny
“I AM ALEX SALMOND”
“AND SO IS MY WIFE” on the back. 🙂
England is crying out for a Centre Left Party. I believe that Alex Salmond and his fellow SNP MPs will give England the shake up that it has been needing.
Cities like Liverpool, Manchester and Newcastle are fertile ground for planting left of centre ideas. Alex Salmond and the SNP will be only to glad to assist in putting them there.
@Jim
Why not see if the National will run with the story of how this scumbag wishes death on Alex Salmond. Absolutely disgusting thing to say so let’s see the colour of the National’s money!
I wonder hazard a guess and say the National would be following a unionist agenda. Why should the National report what all these trolls in the MSM think and say? The only thing they are achieving is letting us all know they are shitting themselves.
So Willie Rennie in the P&J demands that NS distance herself from the ‘Clunking Fist should be told to Foxtrot Oscar’ petition instigated by the Rev C; who whether he likes it or not is a form of journo and nothing to do with the SNP.
Will the Rennie/P&J now demand that Milliband distance himself from the comments of another journo who, speaking in the context of reaction at Labour Party HQ to the likely return to the Commons of AS, poses the question “Why won’t he (AS) just die?”
So come on guys, prove to the world you’re not the sack of mealy-mouthed, lying, two-faced unmentionables that we know and love you for.
Talking of left of centre parties; I had a great conversation with a guy who owns a small business in my neck of the woods just after the Ref. He’s a Yes voter too and we were commiserating with each other and then he blew me away when he said, “Funny thing, I’ve always thought of myself as a centrist, never a left winger, but politics has changed so much in the last 10, 15 years. I haven’t changed my opinions at all but now I feel like I’m some kind of left wing fundamentalist!”
It made me think for the first time in a long time about the whole political spectrum. I think he was bang on – politics in the UK has shifted wildly to the right. I would have always said I was centrist but now I’m undoubtedly “left wing” simply because the political spectrum has shifted and left me behind. The “centre” in the UK, judging from the actions of the Tories, Lib Dems and Labour, now seems to be something between Scrooge and pre-WWII Germany.
It’s got me wondering if we should change our language to reflect reality and stop allowing the press and the UK political parties to pretend that they haven’t gone so far to the right.
Christopher Eccleston is one of the most talented actors of his generation, and by all accounts a genuinely nice guy who does tons of charity work. He’s also strongly committed to social justice: if the stories are to be believed, he quit Doctor Who after only a year because he didn’t like the way the filming crew were being taken a loan of by the producers.
The comparison with Jim Murphy couldn’t be more stark.
Can AS stand in Croydon? 🙂
Here is a picture for your twitter account. It’s Red Tory Jim Murphy campaigning with Blue Tory Jackson Carlaw and others.
Notice how comfortable Murphy looks being pictured with the Tories and the Union Jacks.
link to i60.tinypic.com
I don’t think this picture will be going up in the Celtic Boardroom walls any time soon.
Reply to caz-m
Spot the Tory twin.
James D says:
Doesn’t this come under the new Hate Crimes law?
link to scotland.gov.uk
That is a very interesting question James. I think the very first sentence draws up one or two points to consider. In my, totally unedumated legal view, I’d say that “malice and ill-will towards a social group”, in this case Scots and/or independence supporters, is one avenue worthy of further legal consideration. The other view I’d say that was worth looking at is the idea of hate crime against race in this case us Scots. 😉
Hate crime involves any criminal offence motivated by malice and ill-will towards a social group. Hate crime can be motivated by disability, sexual orientation, race, religion or faith.
Alex…. the Erminator…..Lords and ladies beware he will not stop.
CameronB Brodie
Yes, if he stands still.
I’m liking the thought of the I AM ALAEX SALMOND t.shirts (can the person who invented the slogan please step forward). Black t.shirt with white writing????
x_sticks,
Looking good, eh?
Gordon looks ok but a bit sloppy compared with
Na h-Eileanan An Iar.
James D,
The ‘crime’ appears to have taken place in London, so Scottish law would not apply.
I’ve no idea about the English law but would be willing to bet that even if it was covered the DPP would rule against prosecution.
‘Why won’t he just die?’
There’s just one answer to that: ~
Why won’t ‘Better Together’ just keep their promises & give us Devomax?
Wee Jonny
Would it not be Alex Salmond who invented ‘I am Alex Salmond”.
I’m runnin oot ay coats 🙂
cearc says:
James D,
The ‘crime’ appears to have taken place in London, so Scottish law would not apply.
There might be one way round your point cearc and that is that his “hate” was broadcast on National television i.e. BBC. Whilst the perpetrator himself is physically in London his “hatred” was beamed into people’s homes in Scotland by a complicit BBC. Just a wee thought outside the box. 😉
LA,
I did think of that but I think it would probably be a waste of public money to try it.
It’s all about Labour and the traditional Labour vote isn’t it?
Who cares, up to 40% of their vote abandoned them at the referendum and none of them are coming back. Of the 60% left? Well at least half will move over to the Indie side if they can be shown that Labour are the Red Tories.
For a great many their hatred of the Tory party far exceeds that of the SNP.
Do you know a Labour supporter, one who votes Labour no matter the policies? Then open their eyes, target them, show them the truth about the Jim Murphies and Milliband’s of this world.
Don’t waver, this is your most important job, like the kittens open their eyes and Labour is doomed.
Labour will die in Scotland well before Alex Salmond, we can make that happen. Hence their fear.
‘Why won’t he just die?’
One answer: ~
Why won’t ‘Better Together’ just stop lying?
cearc says:
LA,
I did think of that but I think it would probably be a waste of public money to try it.
Oops, sorry I should have known better. 😛
So…wait a minute…..you can burn a nonsensical silly leaflet and get suspended from you party but its alright to wish someone dead live on the BBC!! WTF?!!
@Tamson,
Christopher Eccleston from the movie Strumpet
link to tinyurl.com
Out F’s Morpheus any day
I’m liking this T-shirt idea.
Headshot on the front with slogan on the back or the other way about?
@ ronald russell
I have always been annoyed by refernces to “the Queen of England” etc, then again the royals themselves adopt English titles so they must have nothing to do with us.
I was taught this by a friend of my dads when I was young, (why I chose my name).
Under Mr de Valera, Ireland changed its name to Eire,
But Britain never changed its name,
It’s still called England just the same.
Why should Mr Salmond, or any of us go away?
The Lib Dems and their Liberal predecessors have been rejected by the electorate for nearly a hundred years and no one is suggesting that they disappear. (Well actually I am, but let’s pretend I’m not).
The unionist moved the goalposts in the closing stages of the referendum. It would have been the same if Alex Salmond had said a Yes vote wouldn’t mean full independence, just complete home rule.
alex,
I think that you’re right. The Libs have all already destroyed themselves.
I think constituency leaflets. ‘Your Lab rep’ with picture of Lab prospective hugger-mugger with a Tory or worse (plenty around from no thanks) and a list of their voting record on key votes would go down a treat.
Scottish voters are not renowned for being very forgiving.
I’ve just watched that horrid Mr Kirkup again and had a wee thought about *ahem* our T-Shirt idea currently circulating on here.
Instead of just “I am Alex Salmond” how about expanding the phrase just a tad to say something like this possibly with a photo of Alex in the middle. 😉
“Dear Mr. Kirkup
I am Alex Salmond!”
I don’t know if the SNP Press Office ever follow up these vicious and nasty comments the BBC is so happy to broadcast, but they should. While making the case on hardball/softball questioning, tone of voice, repetition of unionist tropes etc. is a more complex challenge, I’d suggest it is in their interest to complain and keep on complaining about wilfully offensive remarks – and to publicise the correspondence. The BBC might be able to weasel out a denial of its more nuanced propaganda but when they constantly give airtime to such verbal abuse they should be called on it. It would at least put them on notice they are being called on this stuff – what other contemporary politician has to put up with such a nakedly aggressive narrative from our impartial national broadcaster?
Incidentally, I clicked on the iScot link and was encouraged by the short trailer. Especially liked Greg Moodie talking about how satisfying it is to cancel your TV licence. Indeed, Greg!
[…] These revelations are the result of an investigation by proud British patriotic and Telegraph columnist James Kirkup. […]
Slightly O/T.
My neighbour had a visit today from a representative of IPSOS/MORI, conducting a poll into B.B.C. bias. He would not say who commissioned the poll, but he sure got a strong opinion from my neighbour. Anyone any ideas who is commissioning such polls?
Can you imagine the response if, say, Jim Sillars were
to say on a live news item ‘Oh why doesn’t the Queen just die?’
That would be a bit different, though. I know Kirkup is a horrible Torygraph/Hootsmon hack and everything, but it’s pretty clear he was referring to the death of Salmond’s career, not his actual physical demise.
Sorry for going O/T but thought folks might like to see this.
link to twitter.com
I think this should get *ahem* filed under the heading of “We are FEART so we will stop those nasty cybernats from advertising anything to do with the General Election in May 2015!” 😛
Alex Clark @ 8.47
Well said.
One by one we influence folk with the truth (msn not going to do it).
Alex Clark, as I said on the other thread, I know just the Labour voter. Aye votes for them , faither aye voted Labour, you know the sort. He hates the blue tories with a passion so this will not go down well with him.
God knows they all need to open their eyes,they don’t seem to care these proud scots but. They’ll learn the hard way, unfortunately so will the rest of us.
Lesley-Anne @ 9.33pm
I scrolled down the twitter feed and noticed someone stating that Argyll and Bute Council had banned (in some form) saltires. Nonsense?
Anyone know?
@ Lesley Anne. Window posters there,ll be mair than window posters in Nth Lanarkshire, weil in Airdrie & surounding villages,did you know I had a sleep disorder,sheeesh there,s flys on the walls.
On the ‘I AM ALEX SALMOND’ T-shirts could we put that on one side and ‘UNION TERMINATOR’ on the other. lol.
Lesley-Anne 9.33pm
They’ll be banning public meetings next.
During the referendum campaign, Labour led Renfrewshire Council had special squads in vans who went round the streets in the middle of the night taking down all YES material from lampposts etc.
Graeme Doig says:
Lesley-Anne @ 9.33pm
I scrolled down the twitter feed and noticed someone stating that Argyll and Bute Council had banned (in some form) saltires. Nonsense?
Anyone know?
According to this from the BBC Graeme it appears that the S.N.P. lost control of the council to a coalition of independent councillors and Tory councillors. I think this may explain what is happening regarding Saltires. 😉
link to bbc.co.uk
ronnie anderson says:
@ Lesley Anne. Window posters there,ll be mair than window posters in Nth Lanarkshire, weil in Airdrie & surounding villages,did you know I had a sleep disorder,sheeesh there,s flys on the walls.
I sympathise with you Ronnie and your *ahem* fly trouble. 😛
They may have banned posters etc but they can NOT stop you having posters on your car. Jeez during the referendum the only windows that we could see out of were the windscreen and the two front side windows, driver and front passenger. Every other window on the Jeep, five in total, was plastered, quite literally, with posters. 😛
God I am so embarrassed by this thread. I can’t see what’s so offensive about that clip. First, the journalist is asked to tell the viewers about “the reaction at Labour HQ” to the news that Salmond is standing for Westminster. He’s not even remotely giving his own opinion, whatever that might be, he’s giving his impression of just how headless the Labour chickens are behaving.
Then, the “offensive” line. “The reaction on the unionist side of politics, as basically why, why won’t this man die?” He’s obviously using a videogames metaphor, as Stu implies with his Terminator caption. He’s portraying Salmond as the adversary that gets up and comes back at you again, every time you think you’ve killed it. It’s almost flattering in a way.
I kept hearing how James Kirkup had wished Salmond dead on live TV, and wondered what on earth had happened. If I’d heard that when it was broadcast, straight up, I’d have laughed. It’s amusing, if anything, and it certainly has a subtext of respect for Salmond’s unstoppability.
There are far more offensive things on TV (and radio) than this. This sort of quip wasn’t why I cancelled my TV licence. I think some people need to get a wee bit of a sense of perspective here.
@Wee Jonny – Someone posted on here just after Alex’s resignation speech “I AM ALEX SALMOND” 😀
link to wingsoverscotland.com
@ Cameron Brodie 8.11 Naw nae Croyden. The Eliphant n Castle
Alex is gonna be the Eliphant in the room onnyhow at Westminster, he might as well be the King o the Castle as well.
To cauld tae go oot, back under the bed then.
caz-m says:
Lesley-Anne 9.33pm
They’ll be banning public meetings next.
During the referendum campaign, Labour led Renfrewshire Council had special squads in vans who went round the streets in the middle of the night taking down all YES material from lampposts etc.
The banning of public meetings would not surprise me in the slightest Caz. With regards to the *ahem* nightly activities of said council is also, alas, not a surprise to me.
Labour think they still have the right to control what people see, what they read and what they hear!
Right, before i say this i want to state clearly that i am in no way defending these obnoxious ignoramuses.
Over the last 2 days on here i’ve seen plenty posts condemning this cretins words but have only seen 2 posts actually stating they have done something about it – Grouse Beater & AyeAlba.
I personally wish them every success in their complaint efforts but i don’t think anything will get done about it because if you listen to the clip – he is asked his opinion what he thinks Labour HQ will be thinking about the news of Alex Salmond deciding to stand.
He then goes on to say what he did but he says something along the lines of ‘the same as everyone on the Unionist side in politics, why won’t he die?’
That’s exactly how they’ll attempt to justify his comments.
I actually believe something just as bad has managed to slip under the radar unnoticed.
When this piece of garbage says what he says you can hear someone stifling their laughter.
I’ve watched the clip many times but still can’t determine if it was the pathetic bint in the clip or one of them in the BBC studio.
If it came from the studio and it was the presenter, she should be sacked immediately for unprofessional conduct. If it was one of the 2 ersewipes sitting with the presenter i think we have a right to know which one of these clowns has the mentality of a child.
Maybe it would be more appropriate if someone in the media attempted to establish Labour HQ’ thoughts on the matter and if they agreed with Mr.Fuckup’s “thoughts.”
I wonder if one of our skilled letter writers here on WOS could elicit a response from them on this matter?
If they don’t respond its extremely bad publicity and doesn’t look too good on them, especially if they don’t condemn his “thoughts” in their name.
If they do respond strongly condemning his “thoughts” then it discredits Mr.Fuckup and paints him for what he is – a nasty, vile and hate-filled individual.
@thomaspotter2014 Alex Salmond on front and Honey I’m back on the back of the T shirt would be brill
This may not be every bodies cup of tea but I rather like this graphic from the independent.
Alex Salmond Feast your eyes, I’m on my way.
I can just imagine Alex crapping all over them from a dizzy height.
@Morag
In fairness, I don’t think the post was claiming it was particularly offensive, and most of the comments don’t either. Of course a few folk are taking it all embarrassingly seriously, but the ratio isn’t high.
No, the post isn’t claiming it’s offensive, but an awful lot of the comments seem to have had a metaphor bypass and be calling for the guy to be sacked and so on. It’s frequently been described as “hate speech”, which is ridiculous.
Now we’ve got a poster saying someone should be sacked for laughing at the comment. Well I’d have laughed too. The image of Salmond as the unkillable zombie from hell, in the minds of the unionist politicos, was genuinely funny I thought.
It’s not actually all that far removed from the “If you strike me down I will become more powerful than you could possibly imagine” graphics that were being passed around the independence supporters.
Lighten up a bit guys for goodness sake.
Margaret Curran is still waiting for Alex Salmond to be run over by a bus (and she won’t ask who did it).
Watch out, Alex, there are lots of nasty big red buses in London.
Westminster hasn’t been the same since Godzilla bent Big Ben.
Now that was an extremely unpleasant comment with no redeeming features whatsoever.
Thanks LA.
I presume they are only flying the union flag at cooncil offices in protest at having to live in this outpost of their beloved england.
I’m fair scunnered wi the the fight we have on our hands just to get to day one of an independant Scotland. The time and money that is now being wasted when we could have been on the road to changing our country.
These onionists fair rub me up the wrong way.
I’m just conducting a private countdown until Morag’s two greatest fans crawl out of the woodwork.
Somebody linked the the Electoral Calculus page. It’s been like that for at least a couple of weeks actually. However you should have seen the previous version. In that, the SNP actually unseated Mundell!
Now we’ve got a poster saying someone should be sacked for laughing at the comment.
Yes, well, I’d happily stick that in the “embarrasing” column, but that kind of post is still in the minority.
Yeah, Natasha, I’m wary of posting anything that goes against the groupthing on these threads, these days. But it’s only the internet. The ones doing it aren’t the people who come to the Wings meeting, and certainly not the people who kindly put the Wings badge and patch through my letterbox yesterday while I was at work. That was a kind gesture.
But really, I’m gobsmacked by the literal interpretations of what was clearly a metaphorical comment. Indeed, if it followed another comment likening Salmond to a “zombie who just keeps on powering through to the end of the horror movie” as Stuart said, it’s kind of obvious.
Independence supporters would no doubt prefer the Obi-Wan Kenobi version, rather than the unkillable zombie, but it’s still a valid metaphor and it’s still actually quite funny in context. The idea of Labour sitting there gazing in horror as the creature from the tomb gets up and staggers towards them yet again, broadsword in hand, is surely worth a giggle.
Yes, well, I’d happily stick that in the “embarrasing” column, but that kind of post is still in the minority.
I admit I wasn’t actually keeping a strict count, but there were enough of them that my toes were curling by half way down the thread. I kept waiting for someone to say, hang on a minute, but there wasn’t much of that.
@ronnie anderson 9.48pm Must be sumthin in the North Lanarkshire watter Ronnie cause me in aw my family ir hivin the same fly trouble is you.
Mc Ternan on STV Milliband is a leader like Thatcher & Attlee,
rite yous lot who telt Mc Ternan aboot ma buzzing Talcum Powder,ah stopped ordering bacon rolls in cafes because of the fecker.
@Bob Sinclair
Like it. Could be a good line to use in reply whenever one of the apparently smug but at the same time obviously fearful hard-line unionists pops up and tells us that we lost and we should get over it.
@Morag – you may well be embarrassed but I am furious.
There are enough nutters out there who will think yeah, I agree with this statement.
Can you imagine the OUTRAGE if Nicola Sturgeon had said something similar about Jim Murphy.
This is not just a comment to be dismissed – you maybe live in a more ‘civilised’ area than I do but I think it’s could be thought of as an incitement to violence.
I know in the past you are very dismissive of folk who disagree with you but this time I couldn’t disagree with you more if I tried
@Morag,
Why let the truth spoil a good inference? Several weeks ago I would have agreed with everything you say, but I have watched National media manipulate, confabulate, extrapolate, and even downright lie to create an unfair image which suited their objective of besmirching the Yes side of the referendum. I am not now as willing as yourself to set records straight. ,but rather think of myself as being armed with the same weapons as my opponent. I am not twisted or immoral, just a little bit wiser now
How about I AM the terminator (picture of Alex Salmond) and not with stupid, with a picture of Ed Miliband?
It’s a free country, disagree all you like, but I think you’re completely misreading the tone and the intent.
@ Morag – And BTW I totally object to your use of the word groupthink. AKA known as anyone who disagrees with me.
Re North Koreashire attempts to thwart democracy. T-shirts can be bought cheaply. Especially in bulk. Weather might be tolerable by May. Self printed T-shirts are easy and cheap to do. 337 thousand people live in NL. So that should be 5 or 6 thousand members of the Party. That’s a lot of advertising space 🙂 .
I read that in some places where free speech is not encouraged banknotes are defaced. Not that I would ever condone civil disobedience!
Then there’s badges, handbills, all those members doing the rounds. I was so so impressed by the facebook. youtube and twitter stuff our young people produced. A few naked lampposts would just spark creativity for sure.
Bob, I just think this one is crying wolf. If people take exaggerated offence over a mildly amusing metaphorical comment, it’s likely to detract from the impact of genuine offence when something genuinely offensive is said. Like Mags Curran and her “hit by a bus” remark.
Had another watch,he is asked for his opinion of Labour HQs possible views,not his own views on Alex.
@ Morag – you appear to think you are the only true winger on here. I have been to the group meet at the Counting House and like you have trod the streets leafleting,, campaigning etc.
So please stop being so dismissive of other people’s way of thinking – it comes across as arrogance.
Liz, I actually typed “groupthing”, but you’re quite right, it was a mistake. You read what I meant, not what I typed.
There is a groupthink on these threads. I don’t always disagree with it, but I’m always aware of it.
Liz, as predicted. I’ve expressed my opinion. You’ve disagreed. I’ve declined to back down. This is now being portrayed as “arrogance”.
Well sorry I’m not going to pretend to agree with you when I don’t, and if refusing to change my mind and agree with you is arrogance then so be it.
Hiding behind a metaphor does not negate what this muppet said.
Yes. He specifically says, “The reaction on the unionist side of politics…” And then he continues the theme introduced before the clip starts, of the unkillable zombie powering on to the end of the movie.
It’s not fall-down funny, but it genuinely raised a smile on me.
Those that voted YES did so with conviction, sadly the one’s that voted NO need convicted, for a lack of belief in themself and the Scottish people that is why you hear so little from the NO side apart from the Westminster Loving media plant’s
news on the streets is that Stair Heid is backing Skelator ……Should be the kiss of death, for any normal politico.
@Morag – I’m not asking you to back down.
I am expressing my own opinion but you then led with ‘groupthink’ which suggests we are some kind of mindless group.
I have my opinion but would never dream of accusing people who disagree with me as being outside or part of a group.
Whether you mean it or not it comes across as dismissive – as if your opinion is superior to mine.
Honestly I think you are being naïve but would never accuse you of being part of a group thinking with one mind, I accept it as YOUR opinion so kindly stop accusing me of group thinking.
@ Morag
Maybe you’re right and this is something to be laughed over but some of are sick to the back teeth of being continually branded as fucking Nazis while the real Nationalists in this game smugly get on with sacking our country for all they can bloody grab! And doing it with the consent of at least 50% of our countrymen to boot! This must change!
My concern is that if a mildly amusing and clearly metaphorial comment like this is going to be met with wall-to-wall outrage and calls for people to lose their jobs, where do we go when something genuinely outrageous is said, and who will listen to us then?
What Wings meeting? Has Wings become a clique? Why does it need that kind of groupthink?
But most important of all, are Xword discussions not allowed even on Off Topic? If so that is serious.
And you know plenty genuinely outrageous things are being said and I’m as sick as everyone else of being called a Nazi and a virus and a disease and a fascist and a death eater and all the rest of it.
I just think we should save the outrage and the calls for resignation for these things, not this piece of flummery.
@ Morag ( broadsword in hand),it Alex Salmond should that no be a Claymore.
and its the muppet at Kirkups side who’s stifling a laugh for those who,think its camera crew.
Morag you need a skippy cap for your embassador badge.
@Morag – that’s the point – I do think it’s outrageous.
How do you know he meant it to be ‘amusing and CLEARLY metaphorical’?
You are putting your own interpretation on what he said, you don’t know what he was thinking.
There are nutters out there not everyone will see this as metaphorical.
Posts are getting a bit tetchy these days!!!
I think people have a right to be angry about media manipulation on behalf of the union.
It is easy to dismiss it or label it an over reaction. I think everyone should respect the individuals anger and resentment.
The important thing is to continue to work towards building a better nation. The positive thing for me is that most who are fighting for this change will probably see little personal benefit from it as the change will take decades to evolve.Isn’t it refreshing to see people thinking of those to come instead of self interest.
People are still angry. Some will take much longer than others to come to terms with the lost opportunity. Telling someone to “lighten up” or “calm down” is probably the worst thing you can do.
Stop throwing rocks at each other and remember what this is about – the most vulnerable in society / the next generation.
YES was about what we had in common.
A little more respect for the views of others would be nice.
I think it’s obvious. I think it would be a good idea if people listened to what he actually said, though it’s not as clear as it might be.
You don’t have to agree, but I just couldn’t sit here any longer and not put forward the alternative point of view. I think anyone coming to this thread from outside the bubble would be thinking, for goodness sake, why is everyone being so literal-minded and taking such offence?
@Clootie
I agree, there is though no harm in disagreeing. In fact that’s a positive. We are not sheep and have differing opinions. I welcome that.
We may be diverse but have the same goal. That will do for me.
Ronnie, you’re right I did mean a claymore.
I tried the patch on the hat I was wearing but it didn’t fit. Not enough room. I’ll have to think of somewhere else to sew it.
Clydebuilt says:
news on the streets is that Stair Heid is backing Skelator ……Should be the kiss of death, for any normal politico.
She is not only backing Murph the Smurph Clyde but she is also backing Milliband’s call for votes for 16 and 17 year old. Now if only I could remember where I’ve heard that line before. 😉
Labour wants the immediate transfer of election powers to Holyrood to allow MSPs to give 16 and 17-year-olds the vote in 2016.
Shadow Scottish Secretary Margaret Curran has written to the UK government offering support for early legislation.
link to bbc.co.uk
How do you know he meant it to be ‘amusing and CLEARLY metaphorical’?
He even goes on to expand on the metaphor with the Terminator reference. I don’t see how it could be any more obviously not literal.
@ liz g looks like they’re could be a squadron of flys on the Wing about April/May. March winds are to cauld for flys.
Actually, I see I’ve misinterpreted what Stuart said. The bit about Salmond bing the zombie that powers through to the end of the horror movie came after Kirkup’s comment, so he didn’t pick up from it, rather it was an extension of what he said.
Doesn’t make much difference to the interpretation of what he said, but best to be accurate.
I still think it’s funny, the unionist politicos sitting gibbering in frustration as the adversary they think they’ve already killed three times lumbers back to his feet and just keeps right on coming at them.