Wings Over Scotland

Please God if you can hear me, save us from this batshit union.

I am actually struggling to not reply to these halfwits. I voted for Ian Blackford because CK was no longer representing my fellow constituents. He was ill, rarely turned up to vote and needed to walk away and regain his dignity. I actually had hoped that with the pressure off he would get help and my neighbours and I would get full time representation.

Here we are though with those who have no clue about what happened here suggesting that we should have allowed the man a job for life lest he get upset and pass away.

I have no joy that CK has passed and I feel genuinely sorry for his family. I will not, however, feel guilty for knowing that his time as a politician had passed and for voting against him.

SNP = BAD What next? I suppose they will be responsible for any trouble at this weeks Orange day in Glasgow?

I suspect that the MSM will report on the comments that SNP supporters have used to RESPOND to these vile tweets and will magically transform US into the ones making capital from a mans death.

Charles did as many have said seem to have the ‘common touch’

He went on the streets and met ‘real people’ rather than rely on stage managed media events. There was much to admire about him, even tho his politics and views during indyref were not to my taste.

The sky interviewer speaking to Alex Salmond this morning was clearly trying to make a link between ‘the SNP TAKING his seat’ and his death , Alex handled her very well

I have seen one particular twitter user this morning stating that we should not even have stood in his seat because it was known he was unwell and he should have been allowed to win unoppossed!

Absolutely disgusting.
Do these people have no shame?

“I had no time for the way that Charles Kennedy conducted himself in the referendum ”

I did actually. He was one of the few people I felt was genuinely a thoughtful unionist (as opposed to a politician who’s career relied on it) and who also distanced himself from Better Together, and stood up to them at one point, coming out against the way they were conducting the campaign (link to sundaypost.com)

That’s why I think he’s a genuinely sad loss – he was one of the few who could have acted as an honest broker over the next few years. Michael Moore is/was probably another one but Kennedy had far more of a rapport with people.

What’s worse is that they don’t even know the cause of death before taking this bile to twitter.

Also I agree with Malcolm. Ignore these sad wee people. The less publicity they get the better, for all concerned.

Oh just fuck off you unionist scum and take your lying pish with you.(sorry Rev. but just no taking any more shite.)

Unionists, of course, being desperate to avoid any conversation about how their favoured media and political leaders did a hatchet job on him for opposing the Iraq War and cut down someone who was starting to win support for his party (and you do not have to pretend he didn’t have ‘demons’ to acknowledge that his stance had won him support).

Every stupid, thoughtless, vicious utterance from these people makes me more determined that we must be independent.

Sad that anyone dies at age 55, but I suspect his love affair with alcohol had more to do with his death than anything else. I feel very sad for his son, and those people commenting on Twitter should give some thought to that.
Politics seldom are nice or decent, and I have no idea whether Charles Kennedy was decent or not. I did not like his politics but I did not know him.

Death by tweeting?! sorry but they’ve taken ridiculousness too far

Ming Campbell just now on BBC News channel about Charles Kennedy’s death:

“He was a Highland gentleman – but he was never a nationalist”.

I knew Charles at University where he was one of the best debaters in the world and I have always respected him throughout his career.

I wrote to him during the referendum to ask him to support the Lib-Dems for Indy but sadly he supported the party line of a federalist system. He would have been a great asset in Holyrood.

A true statesman and one of the best politicians of his generation.

A very sad day – my condolences go out to his family.

The true face of the ‘union’ reveals itself again, and not one of them will be pursued or monstered by the press for expressing these obnoxious views within hours of CK’s death.

Truly disturbed people, a real insight into a mentality that sits at odds with any of the condolences issued from those who they attempt to slander and smear.

Those who are employed as public servants including councillors and any others who work in public institutions, should rightly be dismissed for expressing such views. They have simply lost touch with reality and are allowing their hate and jealousy to mar the civil and respectful tone appropriate to this circumstance.

To ‘use’ CK’s death in this manner is quite simply, sick.

I want people like this to be removed from positions of influence and power within our country and communities, they are not fit to serve the people they represent.

Petty, petulant, pugnacious little hate filled pricks. I am still waiting for the idiots to figure that this is ultimately self defeating. This endless stream of verbal abuse is the reason they lost so badly. Maybe it is because they are such sore losers they feel they deserve a hate sink and we’re it.

Dear God

Just despicable.

Can they not leave this nonsense aside for even a day to give the man due respects and his family and friends some peace and space to grieve.

Appalling.

Stu – I normally do not give such vile comments the respect of any response. In this case however I do think that respect for Charles Kennedy calls for appropriate response.
Sir Peter Nunn along with other vile remarks and comments, utterly disrepectful to the good man Charles Kennedy tweeted ”The SNP murdered Charles Kennedy” This goes beyond the pale for me and I’m sure many thousands of others. I suspect Nunn will be deleting that tweet. I don’t know how to copy it or whatever. I think that action should be taken against this libel against this man Nunn. Can you do anything?

I saw on twitter that Gracie Samuels-Pleb fears that puir wee Dougie Alexander might be next.

Any bets that Carmichael will milk this to try to retain his seat should it come to a by-election?

*sigh*

That is all.

While I disagreed with his anti-independence stance, I have always regarded him with a degree of admiration as someone who based his political beliefs on principle.

However the vile nature of the posts quoted by RevStu virtually accusing “the SNP” of murdering Kennedy by opposing him politically at the General Election, takes the “SNP Bad” mantra to a new level of mindless hatred.

I missed the exact phrasing but Alex Salmond tore a strip off the Sky reporter interviewing him today regards Charles Kennedy. Whatever was slapped down, i just saw the interviewer subtitles on screen read “Im sorry, i didnt mean it to sound like that” which i assume was a leading or nasty question\remark.

10 mins later and reporter from outside the kennedy house
Sky Reporter “Police say no suspicious circumstances, which is often code for suicide”. Truly pitiful.

This is really sad. I, like most people it seems, liked Charles Kennedy a lot.

Horrible to see the Unionist hatemongers demeaning his death by desperately trying to wring some sort of bizarre and creepy political capital from it. They really have no shame.

I have just one simple question, who are the ‘VILE’ twitters now? I met Charlie once when I was on an exhibition stand at their Annual Conference and found him a decent bloke. His only fault was that he was a Unionist but let’s also not forget that Charlie was one of the few that led an impassioned debate against the illegal Iraq war and most of what he along with others predicted about Iraq have come to pass.

Finally let’s show a bit of respect and think for a minute for his son who now is left without a father. Charlie RIP.

Auld Rock

Complete lack of class in those tweets.

If you haven’t anything good to say about someone that died only a few hours ago, then say nothing.

O/T

Parliamentary standards commissioner, Kathryn Hudson, is taking the case forward / going to carry out an investigation.

A tragedy for any family to have someone die at the relatively young age of 55.

I remember two other principled Scottish politicians, Robin Cook and John Smith who both died of Heart Disease in their 50`s.

@Karmanaut

You are correct: they have no shame.

We know this already. I expect nothing better from this minority of unionists. Nor any condemnation from the majority. But it must give that majority pause, in the same way as the latest post from WGD gives me pause about some whom I have made common cause with.

Perhaps if unionists had their own outlets on the internet we would see the same kind of comment about their rabid element as is evident at WGD wrt to one of “ours”

Seems like a lovely chap, that Peter Nunn
link to bbc.co.uk

I woke up this morning to my radio reporting the death of Charlie Kennedy.

The news made me sad because Charlie was a man of his convictions. I didn’t agree with all of his convictions but I respected them, mainly because he argued for them from a point of reason.

By the time I had my first coffee, listening to Radio Scotland, I remarked to my husband “I wonder how long will it take for them to start blaming the SNP”.

Not long it seems.

To all the SNP haters, Pouters, and Unionist at all costs tribe: STOP.

Do you REALLY think Charlie Kennedy would approve of your “Blame Game”?

These twitter feeds, what are they meant to do?

What are they?

A demographic still reacting in blind panic and fear. Blinded by arrogance to see that what they wanted to represent is not what the voters wanted them to represent.

The tail not happy that they no longer wag the dog?

What they believed in has been rejected and they are terrified that everything they held as permanent may not be.

Too gripped by fear to contemplate an alternative, a different way.

Rejected by the voters who chose a different way, they react in disbelief brought about by arrogance, fear and embedded entitlement.

The pain and shock of this causes them to blame somebody, anybody for their mistakes.

The SNP are to blame in their eyes. Not their own complacency and dereliction of duty, not the electorate for thinking and choosing the SNP.

The SNP are to blame for everything and anything is an effort to justify their defeat and to try to bring people back to them, to justify themselves that they were right all along.

Nothing is beyond being used as a tool, not even a mans life or death. That cheapens the man they claim to be defending.

How many of these people shouting so loudly actually knew the man?

How many even know the circumstances of his death?

Unless we learn from history we are doomed to repeat it. The electorate have learned this time and chose to do things differently The unionists do not appear to have done so yet.

Its not easy to say “I was wrong”. But is unrealistic to reject the idea that you could ever be wrong!

Charles Kennedy was more than a Politian. We are more than our job. He was a son and father a husband a friend and thousand more things beside these.

I am sure He had a good side and a not so good side.

As do we all

I did not know the man,
I never met him,
I cannot judge him,
I have no right.

My thoughts are with those that did know the man.

The real man

Not what those in the press portray.

If folks are going to comment could you at least try and get some perspective.

These examples, and I’m sure many many more are out there in Twitter, say so much about THESE individuals.

(I’ve recently spent 2 days arguing online with @HistoryWoman and all her cabal and had many an example of mindless Indy supporter tweet comment presented to me)

In this instance, using the death of a man, someone who many of us admired but did not agree with, to make a rather squalid and pathetic attack on the SNP & independence supporters is nothing short of woeful for them.

They know only too well that Charles was beaten democratically at the ballot box. They also know, if they actually cared that much, that Charles had a fight for many years with alcohol. That demon always tends to leave its mark upon someone’s long-term health.

(Though I’m not advocating that was the cause here)

I’m sure Charles would have been one of the first to accept the slings & arrows of public / political life. He lost this one, but I’m damn sure he was planning his next (unfinished) political foray.

But take a look on the Indy side if you want to justify balanced anger and tell me you don’t see the same mindless vitriol on many an issue (JESUS, just take a look at WGD’s latest)

If anything, I take from this that there are indeed arseholes on all sides of the debate that just need treated with the contempt to which they scream out for. They don’t speak for us and they don’t speak for many of our honourable foes, eg Charles

Any MSM that decides to try and make any capital from this sad affair against the SNP will I’m sure leave itself open to easy condemnation, which if anything will again do less good for their cause in the long-run than any harm to us.

The truly sad thing is that to an extent political defeat may in fact have contributed to his death. The problem with that is the assumption that you have to treat any candidate in poor health with kid gloves or not stand against them. In a democracy you hold elections and the presumption is that no one owns or entitled to own a seat as an MP. If anything there being less than the number of seats in the Commons and the whole fuss regarding where the SNP can sit should emphasise it.

Then again if we were being nasty we could start a whole string of whataboutery starting with his rejection as LD party leader due to his personal problems with alcohol. A very scottish affliction which he seemed to have a handle on. Unlike being a two faced lying bastard which gets you support from the party.

If it comes to it his “night of the long skean dhus” might have tipped us off that he felt he’d been stabbed in the back by the electorate. Or it might have been a clever way of referring to the “night of the long knives” which was a pivotal point in german history where the majority of Hitlers “allies” were assassinated to give him sole control. That little effort was made to challenge his use of that phrase tends to indicate people weren’t interested in pursuing the issue and were willing to let it rest. Or he was referring to to a show by Craig Ferguson as Bing Hitler.

I always liked Charles Kennedy. He seemed like a thoroughly decent human being and was able to argue his case courteously and with wit.

i am appalled at the suggestions that the SNP are somehow to blame for the untimely death of Charles Kennedy. If you strip everything away, a man who struggled with an alcohol problem, who was a father to a young son has died. He may have been a politician, but to his wee boy he was daddy and that should be uppermost in peoples’ minds, not using the death of Charles Kennedy to tear strips out of any political party or its supporters . To use his death for some sort of political gain is reprehensible. Is hat on earth has this country come to when people feel it is acceptable to do this? I offer my condolences to the family of Mr Kennedy, and especially to his young son.

I didn`t think that people could sink so low as to try to make cheap political jibes from the death of one of our best politicians. It would seem that no event however tragic is off bounds to those British Nationalists who wish to smear the SNP or Scotland`s aspirations to run their country in the way we see fit.
If the MSM think that protecting these people from scrutiny is working then they are wrong, many folk will see on sites like facebook their actions and be under no illusion who is dishing out the bile.

Very sad to hear about Charles Kennedy.

If my memory serves me right, it was us ‘Cybernatz’ here on wings and other on-line outlets who were appealing to the libDems to help Charles after his Question Time performance and expressing concern about his health.

I’m sure a number of commenters suggested that for his health’s sake, he perhaps shouldn’t stand in his seat at the general election.

Do you have a backlog to the comments section at the time of his QT appearance Rev?

Charles Kennedy was a genuine politician and came across as a principled man. I didn’t agree with his Unionist stance and I’ve never trusted the Liberal Party. How much might he have achieved if he had stayed with a Social Democrat party?
It’s a sad day.

The reaction of those people is despicable.

In life I generally believe you fight fire with fire but I’m frankly speechless here.

We really must get Scotland away from these creeps. Time is of the essence.

These messages are exactly one of the reasons why Scotland has moved away further and inexorably towards Independence

The immediate desire of Unionists to make political capital out of a mans death is the contemptible behaviour we have become used to

Whether a good man or a bad man it makes no difference
If you didn’t like him keep it shut,if you did, fine, speak, but we are all who we are and have friends and family who know us and who knew Mr Kennedy so why would you hurt folk just for the sake of it
by making these contemptuous Tweets and political suggestions in an attempt to sleight an opponent (The SNP )

It shows the particularly ugly face of what is protectionist bile from frightened people when they stoop to as low a level as can be found to justify themselves
I would suggest to those same people, that those you try to impress with this putrid stench are much less gullible than you think and will see you for who and what you are

I did not know Mr Kennedy so as to his character I cannot speak nor would I have the bad manners to inflict further upset on his family by making wild unsubstantiated commentary and guesses as to his passing

Perhaps some of Mr Kennedys so called friends might keep their bloody big gubs shut
As we say in Scotland If you can’t say something nice don’t say anything

Ach, these people tweeting this nonsense, are just the insignificant wee jobbies of the unionist world, desperate for attention. Ignore.

@baronesssamedi says: 2 June, 2015 at 12:49 pm:

Twitterer Peter Nunn has already been in jail fot trolling Stella Creasey MP so that’s the company these morons keep. Treat them with contempt etc”

This Nunn guy is quite obviously a deeply disturbed and nasty person. His several marriages ended in divorce left his several children scattered in his wake. Divorce is always sad but when there are several such it indicates something is lacking in the person involved.

In 1998 Nunn was named in a list of the biggest private financial donors to the Labour Party. In 2002, he was knighted.

That says it all really and if anyone is stupid enough to imagine these sub-human apologies as human beings cannot sink any lower – forget it for I’m sure they can.

I agree with the Rev’s comments. He transcended party politics and was very likable. Cannot say that for many in his party, especially the likes of Scott Tavish, plus many in the Unionist, cabal opportunist gravy train.

This begs the question where will this all end? Bloodshed? It certainly seems to be getting nastier every day.

How Alex Salmond is being quoted now, from the Daily Mail:

link to dailymail.co.uk

Alex Salmond said that Kennedy was ‘taken from us by an illness that he had that eventually defeated him’.

‘It must be just about the worst place on the planet with Charles’ illness – and a sad illness which has taken him from us.’

I don’t think anyone would seriously disagree with that assessment of things.

@Joemcg

I do not think there is much chance of bloodshed, really. The truly deranged are a small minority and these unionist warriors are not the stuff that martyrs are made of.

They would dearly like to be able to say that indy folk are violent revolutinaries of the sort the establishment seek to scare the children with, traditionally. But we aren’t. And neither are they.

Sorry Stu.,

Have calmed down a bit now. It was the fact that so many of us here noticed “Sir” Peter Nunn was not a knight, but an imposter, and a jailed twitter troll of all things. Clearly he is deranged calling the entire SNP membership murderers. But we will leave that to the old bill to sort out with “Mr” Nunn. Hope he has is bags packed for another 18 week in prison for trolling vile abuse.

By the way, just in case any of the Telegraph et. al., start repeating these obscene and distressing troll-bate twitters… please could someone let me know how the right wing press are keeping so very, very quite about the alleged culpability in the deaths of 60 disabled people at the hands of the Conservatives…

link to calumslist.org

Or is it okay for the Conservative led DWP to kill disabled people in today’s Britain? FACT.

So if you are on Facebook or Twitter, maybes reply to the trolls with a discreet reference to the REAL and culpable Conservatives as witnessed by the suicide note on the above weblink above that PROVES the Conservatives killed the likes of Stephanie Bottrill.

Good grief Stu., my blood is still boiling at those rancid, unforgiveable tweets that you located on that social media.

@ Donna Heddle (1.42pm).
Thanks for that, hopefully good news but something tells me we are about to experience another white-washing-of-hands.

In the words of the Scottish comedian, Karen Dunbar, “I smell shite”
______

bob sinclair wrote:
“I’m fairly confident that we could all write tomorrows Daily Mail headline for them. I’m guessing that there will be some abhorrent anti SNP slur included in it.”

And if that happens, bob, every last one of us should be prepared to bombard “IPSO” with complaints and that goes for any rag found to be even hinting at blaming the SNP for his death.

This is also where The National has to step up to the plate. When it does its piece on Kennedy and his life in politics it should also run a piece exposing these vile opportunists who are using Kennedy’s death for political gain.

I hope one of our own stand up in Westminster and strongly condemn these vile cretins, name and shame them.

Sorry to hear of Charlie’s passing; he is gone far-too-soon.

Already we have the Unionist trolls trying to suggest it was all the fault of the SNP. We must forgive them father, for they know not what they do.

I get the impression these days: if the SNP government was to come up with a provable and sustainable system, whereby everyone in Scotland received £1 million per year ta free, and all taxes were abolished, led by Deputy Dug, the Unionist forces would be screaming: “SNP bad”.

You can smell their fear. Criticising Wee Eck is just another example of this.

Charles Kennedy was a thoroughly decent, principled and genuine man who had the courage to stand up for what he believed in, even when it was extremely difficult and unpopular to do so. Even though I did not always agree with his views, especially on independence, there were many things I did agree with him on.

I like many of us had a great deal of respect for the man regardless of the party he represented. He was one of an all too rare type of politician, one that a genuine respect for the electorate, and that is the kind of politician we need more of not less. Deepest sympathies go out to his family at this sad time.

These vile lowlifes using the death of Charles Kennedy to try and score cheap political points against the SNP is one of the most loathsome, abhorrent and repugnant displays of political opportunism I have ever witnessed. Take a good look at yourself you callous, soulless creeps, where is your decency?

Sickened to the core, blood boiling.

These brainless fucking half-wit comments are an absolute shocking disgrace to the memory of the man.

Candidates for the C**t Club – new members welcome every day. They should put a shiny click-through feed on Twitter for them to sign up to.

Although I recognise its usefuleness in giving a voice to repressed peoples around the World, generally I can’t abide Shitter and Facecloth. The Shittersphere in particular opens up a mindfield of wonder for future social psychology PhDs.

Can you tell I’m ever so slightly riled today?

Don’t get me started.

Charles should have not been standing at the last election. He was visibly far too ill. He had been on tv just before the election and it was assumed that he was drunk. This was the long term effect of drink on the brain and there is no coming back from it. A sad end to any ones life.
Let this be a warning to any one who bellies up to a bar. A good friend but a very bad master.
Perhaps the SNP should introduce minimum pricing in all the Westminster bars.
Thoughts to Charles and his family.

I always admired Charles Kennedy, he was a real human being.

Twitter is for mad thumb merchants who’s thumb is inexplicably linked to their knee, by-passing their brain? if indeed the have any grey matter.

Everyone is welcome to an opinion in a democracy (lol), but using this as an excuse to vent their hatred is frankly disgusting.

They need to stop and think before social media farting on everyone else.

RIP Charles Kennedy, who would probably be laughing at this lot.

Fiona says ”I do not think there is much chance of bloodshed, really. The truly deranged are a small minority and these unionist warriors are not the stuff that martyrs are made of.

They would dearly like to be able to say that indy folk are violent revolutinaries of the sort the establishment seek to scare the children with, traditionally. But we aren’t. And neither are they.”

In my opinion if they are allowed to continue to whip up hatred on-line against the SNP, and it’s escalating, it could lead to (further) bloodshed.

Not necessarily by one of the wee cowards hiding behind a pseudonym but by someone (or a number of people) who is / are influenced by this manipulative fervour and feel justified in reckoning with violence against what they see as a malignant force (us).

We’ve already heard of a number of close shaves such as the SNP office assistant who had to lock herself in her office when a baying mob of Orange Order hangers-on (big men) started howling verbal abuse at her, tried to kick the door in and so on. They only fled when they realised that the Police were on their way. And of course the case of the girl, SNP canvasser, who had to go to A & E to have her facial wounds attended to following an attack.

Someone, somewhere has to take some form of action against this online vendetta, ASAP, before it leads to seriously dire consequences.

Salmond getting abuse on the Scotsman for remarking on Kennedy’s greater political passion for a pro-EU campaign, compared to the independence campaign where he publicly criticised the negative approach.

Apparently you aren’t allowed to make any political tributes or observations when a politician dies. I suppose it would be disgraceful to mention Iraq too..

Typical of the Britnat media to run with an anti-SNP rant, and ignore all the ridiculous ‘Blame the SNP’ abuse following his sad death.

I’m saddened that they lowered themselves to this on the very day Mr Kennedy died.

The obviously did not hold him in that high a regard when they would use him to smear 50% of the Scottish population.

A vile group including HQ staff and councillors. What will the LibDems do about this disgraceful blitz? They will do nothing and that sums up the party of “liberals”

Democide? Honestly?….. I think the whole twitter thing is highly amusing. No need to be outraged. These dysfunctional people are a minute percentage. They are extremists in thought. They are perverted in logic. They are bitter in defeat.

The real death we are witnessing, and they are railing about, is the death of the Union. And the SNP cannot take the credit. The death of the Union is down to us all. Let’s ignore the death rattle of outraged tweeters.

Are these people for real? The SNP will no-doubt give a far more gracious, honest and dignified show of respect to this great politician than probably anyone of his own lot. I feel a sense of GENUINE sadness today, we’ve lost a remarkable man. I think if he had started his career today in politics, he would be batting for the big yellow team.

RIP Charlie

Hi Robert Peffers.

There must be two Peter Nunns. The tweeter would have been 17 in 1998, according to the link given further up. It also says,

The part-time delivery driver used a number of Twitter accounts to retweet sinister posts and send a series of menacing messages directly to the MP.

link to bbc.co.uk

However politically culpable, well-remunerated and comfortably pensioned MPs may be, the experience of losing one’s seat and job at the hustings must be a pretty brutal one for anybody: the situation is very public and the lack of votes from pissed off constituents is often very personal.

For somebody of a fragile mental state of mind – such as an alcoholic – things can only be a lot worse. I wonder if ex-MPs are given access to counseling?

God get us out of the Union FFS. I can barely tolerate the nauseating drivel that was vomiting out of the screen during what passed for news in the UK.

I have no time for anybody that stood shoulder to shoulder with neo fascists in the Referendum on the No side to run Scotland down. I include Kennedy in that villains gallery.

It is but a month ago that Kennedy descended into the gutter with his own nasty smear campaign against Mr Blackford during the GE.

No there is/was nothing decent about chat room Charlie’s politics in my eyes. If he was such a paragon of human decency and virtue and whatever other guff the MSM is spewing out today then he wouldn’t have lost his seat. The electorate passed judgement on him in the end and they obviously didn’t share the view of the disgusting BBC.

Let it no be forgotten either that it was his own Party that inserted the knife into his back when he was battling other personal demons. We see examples of such back stabbing excrement above.

I will order my pine box because their political leaders will not smack them down in my life time if ever. Perhaps the “Night of the Long Sgian Dubhs!” will be a long time coming for the above scum.

You can take it from what I said earlier that I don’t share the MSM view that he walked on water anymore than I shared the past MSM view that John Smith walked on water and then turned it into wine.

First of all we have all the usual abuse being thrown our way by ignoramouses.

Secondly we have GCC permitting Independece Square to be taken over on Saturday for around seven hours by the Orange Order.

Well I think this is probably the best response I’ve seen for a long time to sectarianism of any description.

link to youtube.com

I did like Charles Kennedy and have voted Lib Dem in the past. It’s very sad news.

It may have been said already, but I think that if anything affected his health re the GE, it was the fact that the Lib Dems went into coalition with the Tories against his wishes and that played a big part in their downfall. I’m sure that would have had a bigger affect on his health than the SNP.

These comments above are despicable. They have no shame, but the worst of it is, if it was yes voters making similar comments….well, we all know what would be happening.

Very sad to hear of Charles, really nice chap, very funny, politically astute and a worthy and respected political opponent.

Having met him socially I can say all the above and other tributes paid to him are true. I wish his family and friends well.

I have seen some today trying to make political points, even broad sheet papers trying to twist tributes, completely inappropriate on this of all days!

I was wondering how long it’d take them. Sickening to use the man’s untimely death for political point scoring. Kennedy had been, for the most part, a principled politician.

People forget it was his own colleagues who used his flaws against him and ousted him as party leader. Had they not done so they’d not be in the position they are now.

He suffered the loss of his seat due to new leader Clegg entering a diabolical coalition with the Tories, which Kennedy was against. Of course the LibDems involvement in hyper nasty Better Together campaign didn’t help either. Had Kennedy ran the campaign we may have seen a more principled stance taken.

He was under appreciated and under utilised. Those who stabbed him in the back, in life, are now his best friends in death.

Aside from the Tweets in the article I note that they’ve been just as quick to start some ‘Salmond bashing’. Apparently Alex’s genuine words of condolence were somehow “crass” and have “created a storm”.

An outpouring of two-faced mock indignation using a man’s untimely death for Nat bashing. Will this be used to try and get Carmichael off the hook? Could anyone sink so low??

Ach, these blorts are tweeting their way to irrelevance.

They just have not twigged to the fact that, generally, Scots can now see through this garbage a mile off.

Mebbe the thing they are forgetting is that a media outlet is nothing without an audience, and they seem to be doing their level best to divest themselves of that.

It’s verges on the edge of reality to somehow blame the SNP for the death of Charles Kennedy.

I found Mr Kennedy to be a very likeable guy,and I sure he’ll be sorely missed.

manandboy says:

The BBC – pushing down standards of decency for the sake of the Union.

Is that even physically possible any more for the BBC manandboy? 😀

The comments highlighted in the tweets are of a type that is, sadly, increasingly normal these days. There are loonies and extremists everywhere and the likes of Twitter gives them a platform that they have never had before.

However, they represent no one.

They are not indicative of the views of any party and are certainly nothing to do with “unionism” or the debate regarding Independence.

The death of Charles Kennedy is sad, just as it is for when anyone dies prematurely. We all know Mr Kennedy had issues and was clearly struggling to control them. How or why he died will be known soon and, doubtless, there will be all sorts of theories as to what may have contributed to his death.

Regardless of who won his seat, it may well be that losing his seat, together with other events in his life, contributed to his early departure one way or another.

However that does not mean that the SNP are “responsible”. You know that. I know that – and almost all other sane people know that – and no one with any sense would say otherwise.

Please don’t use the tweets of a few loonies as evidence of anything other than reminding us all that there are loonies in the world.

The authors of that diatribe are more to be pitied than scorned. Their intellect is challenged, and they are lacking to a great degree, in compassion.

To use the unfortunate death of a good man to sling false allegations at an entire political organisation is demeaning only unto them.

their hatred will eventually consume them, hopefully sooner, rather than later.

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O/Tish but regarding link to indiegogo.com

Its on BBC R4 now but Joshua Rozenberg in his Law In Action show pretty much destroys the above action against Carmichael at least on one of it’s two “legs.”

Its an interesting listen with a n other legal Prof and they both agree that Carmicheal’s defence is that he’s going to defend on the grounds that he had leaked what he presumed was true, Sturgeon and the SNP did want a Tory win May 7.

Fair enough its only the BBC propaganda machine in full attack mode but if Carmichael is going to defend himself on the basis that he presumed that his leak was true, why did he state the detail of leak was all lies in his letter to Sturgeon?

More to the point, why does a BBC law dude and a law Professor both completely exclude and ignore Carmicheal’s own public admission of guilt in writing, on national BBC radio?

UKOK establishment corruption on several levels displayed today.

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Can Carmichael wriggle out of his I am sorry for the leak “and that the details of that account were not correct”

It is worth remembering that in the constituency of his family, Charles Kennedy’s illness took the form of a very destructive habit. His wife would have borne the brunt of it throughout the period of their 8 year marriage. Their son was born in 2005. They divorced in 2010. I imagine his former wife will take little comfort from the many fine words spoken about him in these days.

I suspect we might be in for a downpour of hypocrisy.

That orange order march, you would think the police should step in and stop it as there is a possible threat to the public as it’s pretty volatile politically in Scotland at the moment plus with this online abuse stoking the fires. What if someone gets hurt?

Apologies to any religious people here, but this anti-SNP stuff has gotten to the level of the sort of right wing anti-gay crap we are constantly hearing from fundamentalist Christians. Wait for it, “SNP to blame for unseasonable weather!” coming to a tabloid near you.

It’s a very sad day today with the loss of such a good guy, but what makes it worse is the condemnation of Alex Salmond as if it was his fault. Condemnation from the lowest of the lowest who are so ignorant of the true facts.link to m.soundcloud.com

Just wanted to add, the Labour councillor blocked me soon afterwards, labelling me “another nasty cybernat”.

I was asked by Gracie Samuels to agree that losing his seat to the SNP contributed to his death. All I said in reply was that I would not be speculating on how, or what would have been the contributing factors of Mr. Kennedy’s death, since I was not qualified to, and I was pretty sure that neither was she.

It’s been a sad day all round. I’ve no opinion of Charles Kennedy as I never met the man, but I liked that he spoke out against the Iraq War and that commanded my respect.

The other sad thing is that rather than enter into debate with an opponent about the merits of laying the blame for a man’s passing squarely on the very existence of opposition parties, Labour politicians and activists are happy to fill themselves with hatred.

Of course she may have just not felt like accepting my point of view, and rather than admit she may have been a bit Hopkinsesque, she went for the “Nasty Cybernat!” & Block option.