Wings Over Scotland

I see the SNP`s Kirsty Blackman is still trying to eradicate Joanna Cherry,

some noname misogyinist tweeted,`… when will the SNP actually do something about Joanna Cherry?

SNP MP Kirsty Blackman answered/tweeted in reply,

`Good question. I wish I knew the answer.`

An MP recently murdered and Joanna having threats on her life and Kirsty Blackman MP comes out with that answer.

And silence from the Transcult Reichstag at Holyrood.

Well done DJ on the video. Keep it up!

Scot Finlayson says:
19 October, 2021 at 9:40 am
I see the SNP`s Kirsty Blackman is still trying to eradicate Joanna Cherry,

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Kirsty Blackman is a hypocrite. Do we think anything will happen to her regarding constant tweets /digs at JC? Probably not cos she’s part of the SNP gender woo hoo Taliban.

twitter.com/meljomur/status/1450155369540489233

Re Kirsty Blackman – my OH has emailed Ian Blackford asking him “When are you going to do something about Kirsty Blackman?”.

Looking forward to IB’s reply!

DJ.

Just catching up,

My family are musical, and have played with some big names in their day, from Andy Stewart to joe brown,
They write some of their own song as well.

All I can say to you and you’re other half.

Well done, I loved you’re song, the music it’s purpose and video.

@ Robert Graham: “facial recognition for primary school dinner queue”

Once again, a terrifying abuse of government – if they will even contemplate facial recognition in a primary school, what chance for any other civil liberty?

Please will some SNP members at least try to challenge the leader – get several people to apply to stand as leader. The window is now open for applications as the Annual Conference is the end of November – just ask SNP Nat Sec for a form – but there will be a cut off date well before the Conference so you must act now.

I have emailed a couple of parliamentarians asking them to stand or to organise for some other applications but I don’t expect them to keep me informed. If anyone reading this has some contacts in the SNP or is a member who sees the obstruction that the current leadership is putting on independence, please please act. It is the only way to get movement on independence.

The snp have had 7 years to stop the rot, the corruption,
Sadly it is them that are forwarding this draconian new Scotland,
It’s is also the snp that monitor new candidates and stop any with alternative views in the snp coming through. As we can see from the manner they deal with other snp members like JC.

Until The present cult leaders are out the picture the rest follow like zombies.

Does anyone think the new laws Priti Patel is talking about bringing in to safe guard MPs from hate speech and terrorism will stop the Tories telling Scottish MPs to go home?

@ Robert Graham

Yip Hapless Humza stumbling from one fiasco to another , consistent if nothing else . The Holyweird Dorkocracy permanently stuck in reverse gear in just about every dept .

The vaxxport scheme easily circumvented by the not very complicated means of simply sharing a QR code . Wowza , who saw THAT one coming ? Not HH anyway .

And who knew the primary school dinner queues were in such crisis !! Somebody call Bill Gates

…..or appoint a School Dinner Queue Czar . Maybe Kirsty Blackperson could take time out from her main job of hounding J Cherry and step up to the dinner plate .

Good song and video DJ . Keep ’em coming : we could all do with a bit of positivity in these benighted times

remember to hit the LIKE button on DJ’s vid

From a comment btl on this site about a year ago –

‘As First Minister Nicola Sturgeon is not obliged to obtain independence for the people of Scotland. As Leader of the SNP and a member of the Party she must endorse the Aims of the Party and accept its Constitution, Rules and Standing Orders. The primary aim of the SNP is to achieve independence for the people of Scotland. The primary aim of the First Minister is tae dae fit she’s telt by Westminster. These aims cannot be reconciled. Ms Sturgeon is an obedient but uninspiring First Minister. These are not qualities which will ever take us to independence. She could stay on as First Minister but we need a new leader for the SNP with the necessary attributes.

The conflict of interest between leadership of the SNP and the position of First Minister is obvious and should have been resolved by now. Why hasn’t it? Is it because there isn’t anyone in the SNP who could lead us to independence. We need an answer to that question.’

James Che

I could be in a minority of one but I doubt it.

Do you really have to submit umpteen posts, every day, concerning Sovereignty? I suspect that 99% of Scots have no real interest!
Find another subject please.
Thank you.

That is the purpose,

For those that do not know,
The marches fulfill the same reasoning.
Others Scottish bloggers mostly aim with reasoning.
To spread the word, that what they have been told is not the truth with regards their sovereignty or the treaty of the union in the past.

For those that are unaware,
For those that have had decades of the other type of MSM rubbish.
For those that do not realise their legal position in Scotland

And because most of those opposing the people of Scotland gaining any legal foothold for independence would like to brush this information under the carpet.

So I challenge anyone to to point out where Scots joined the treaty of the union in a democratic vote in 1707.
If they can’t find the vote put to the Scots in 1707, we simply did not join.

Chas!
V droll Dave.

Hammer doun on the Sovereign status of Scots* then guys.

*Whoever they/we are.
😉

Graf Midgehunter.
Robert Hughes,
Robert Louis.
Breeks,
And to the many that recognise the sovereignty status of the Scots,

It is an important aspect to our legal and verbal armaments that the Scots have more than one avenue to gain our independence.
I am quite happy to have many aspects to the independence yes movement. And to realise that learning one method does not necessarily cancel out others, but merely adds to the legal structure.
All branches are important to a sapling if it is to grow into a tree.

Many others of you are better educated than I on many subjects, and I feel humbled by the many subjects you all bring up. And the links to news and other bloggers.
You have been the starting point for the lack of Scottish history actually taught in our/ my education system.

For to presume that only my school in Scotland took this approach is naive, so there must be many Scots in Scotland that that do not know the full extent of their sovereignty and what it means in relation to themselves, and the rest of Scotland.
Nor that any Scots has ever voted to join the treaty of the union in 1707 to present day.

I am doggedly determined that as many Scots know these facts as the rest of you are in supporting yes for independent Scotland in you’re own persistant efforts.
And I enjoy nit picking legal facts from jargon.

And the treaty of the union has plenty of jargon.
Thanks to you all for you’re support in my efforts to thwart the propaganda around this issue,

Jesus wept. Still banging on about Sovereignty. Why don’t all those interested, the whole 5 or 6 of you take Westminster/Hollyrood/EU or whoever to court and bore them all to death with stuff that happened hundreds of years ago.

@ Chas: this site is for people who want Scotland to regain independence.

At the moment the procedure to regain independence is being framed in terms of, or rather deliberately confined to, the referendum route by the SNP and the MSM. That is the problem.

Unless the message gets out that sovereignty means we do not need a referendum, and that the referendum route that was a safe and sensible choice in 2014, is now a disastrous method, we are trapped.

Have you got any ideas to help?

Stu,

someone doing a wee poll on twitter regarding the nefarious transcult and when you (that`s me) first became aware there was a problem that was the transcult,

lot of folk sayin it was when JKR got involved,

but you were on this topic way before that,

can you remember the date of your first post on WOS regarding the trans issue,

i`m sure it seems a couple of years ago,

ta.

“History is not the past. It is the present.”

James Baldwin

Chas says:
19 October, 2021 at 7:24 pm
Sarah

I want an honest, workable Independence for Scotland.

If a 2nd referendum ever takes place the SNP/Alba or whoever will have to present the financial/economic case to the people of Scotland for scrutiny. Something they have spectacularly failed to do. Difficult questions will be asked and resolutions will have to found. Currency/Central Bank/borrowings etc etc.

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Aye so ye dae

I thought No voters were also sovereign in Scotland? Or is sovereignty reserved solely for those that support Independence?

@sarah

A recently published document eh?

“We, the Scottish Sovereignty Research Group (SSRG hereafter)”

By the SSRG no less I gave up there.

It would make interesting reading for those that follow the good old referendum policy to put forward new ideas,

Scotland has grown and changed beyond recognition since 2014.
Many things have altered and not for the better .
We have one man in prison, another dodgy attempt made for imprisoning a ex FM.
We have Brexit.
Umpteen mandates given to the snp,
Covid,
Missed children’s education.
And more people out of work,
Climate change.
Insincere inquires.
Etc etc.

We have to change with the times as the vision of Scotland that was, disappears on the horizon and into Scotch mist……

It is not always backward thinking to want to hang on to all you hold dear,
But we must be forward thinking in how many different ways independence can be achieve.
The marches are good, barrheadboys ideas are good, links to other bloggers are good, keeping people’s spirits up with cheer and song is good, grousebeater s wisdom is good,
There are many positives,

It’s just that sometimes we get the people kicking any new ideas into the ball park before they have spread their wings and grown,
They scream and moan, but provide nothing new, no new avenues or ideas to help.

do not let those psychological instances deter us. Recognise it for the reason it’s put there, as an obstacle. 🙂

Ayeright says: at 10:49 pm

@sarah

“A recently published document eh?

“We, the Scottish Sovereignty Research Group (SSRG hereafter)”

By the SSRG no less I gave up there.”
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Yea, there it goes again, Scottish Sovereignty. Scares the s**t out of you and your other Brit Nat pals.

It’s not like a referendum where you and your cronies at WM can jump in and “mould” it to your required result.

Scottish Sovereignty is something the people have as a birthright, something you have no control over, you can only try to silence it.

So you can take your Referendum and stuff it up BoJo’s ar*e.

At Ayeright 9.49pm you wrote
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“I thought No voters were also sovereign in Scotland? Or is sovereignty reserved solely for those that support Independence?”

Is anyone here or on any other indy blogs saying that NO Scottish voters are NOT sovereign , there is no one disputing that but what you and your fellow unionists fail to see or are too stupid to see is that by WM and Bozo the clown denying agreement on a sect 30 order they are not only disrespecting and denigrating indy supporters but also yoonionist supporters after all an agreed sect 30 for a ref allows yoonionist supporters to PROVE that remaining in the union is the best option , no one knows what the outcome would be or are you like the rest of the yoonionists too feart to find out

They have also done the same thing with NI yoonionists they have ignored their feelings and thrown them to the dogs , the difference with NI is they don’t care about NI because they subsidise them , they do care about Scotland because Scotland subsidises england and that would be shown to be the truth VERY QUICKLY

link to archive.ph

SNP absolutely determined to fire on 0 cylinders.

Scots seem like the English, get the foreigners to stump up the €€€.
https://www.thenational.scot/news/19658675.scottish-power-invest-billions-offshore-windfarm—england/
The total indifference to who gets the slices of the cake appears not to matter.
The Scots in their unimaginative utilitarianism are so very «British».
For sale one country. Last sale completed 1707.
Que porra é essa….as they say in Portugal.

Robbo

‘Off You trot. We can use whatever currency we want- get it!’

I really should not respond to an individual who, how can I say it politely, lacks knowledge! I would say that do you really want an Independent Scotland to be held to the whims of another country’s fiscal policy? Do you understand what that means?

Breeks

‘Please explain what “Independence” literally means to you then Chas’.

That question is so stupid I will not dignify it with a response.

Sarah

The document you refer to is mince.

In life it is important to know when to stop arguing with people and simply let them think they are right. Even when they are wrong. Life is too short!

Ayeright @ 9:49 pm

“I thought No voters were also sovereign in Scotland?”

No voters gave Scottish sovereignty away in 2014. Without sovereignty ‘a nation perishes’.

Well said that man, but for the love of God, tell your bosses at the SNP to act on it.

link to presslasvegas.com

Alf Baird says:
20 October, 2021 at 9:55 am
Ayeright @ 9:49 pm

No voters gave Scottish sovereignty away in 2014. Without sovereignty ‘a nation perishes’.

I disagree Alf.

A No vote was just as sovereign as a YES vote. It just affirmed the sovereign will of Scotland was to stay in the Union. It did not forfeit that Sovereignty.

Breeks @ 10.51am.

Breeks Alf didn’t say no voters aren’t sovereign.

Breeks you wrote, “It did not forfeit that Sovereignty.” with everything that’s happened post 2014, Brexit etc, it certainly feels that way.

Our sovereignty had been included in a discussion between myself and old labour snp members in 2017,

The snp thought back then that Scots sovereignty should lye with the snp and the Scottish government,

One of those snp whom believed this was a mr Stevenson.
Himself and the ex – labour snp lady accompanying him both disagreed with my spouse and I that it should remain as it had been for hundreds of years, WITH THE SCOTS.

With that knowledge in mind, it seems to be emerging with the latest politics from the Scottish government that if they cannot own legal they are attempting to steal it.

When it seemed like I might be crazy over the covid issue a few months ago,
At the forefront of my mind had been our Scottish sovereignty.
At the beginning of the pandenic Nicola Sturgeon had said in a interview that lock down could only be advisory in Scotland as the people were sovereign.

However by this year not only had the Scottish government stopped spouting “ it can only be advisory in Scotland “, she had taken it upon herself to become a tzar of covid and imposed police action or finds, now she on full mode of control of Scots sovereignty by bringing in vaccines passports, injections for young people. And the list continues.

I was well aware that the snp wanted our ( the people’s ) sovereignty for parliament and had that in mind since early 2017, and I knew the steal would happen by devious methods after what I saw what happened to AS and CM,
I am left in NO doubt that the SNP think they are the owners of our sovereignty.

It was time to speak out.

It has become a driving force to make sure the Scots know they own their sovereignty, not the Scottish government, not the snp, not the treaty of the union nor BJ,

When we see NS and green goblins enforcing damaging legislation on the Scots in Scotland including hate speech, gender issues, and taken over controlling the freedoms of sovereign Scots Through Westminster covid rules,
It worries me no end that the snp no longer say, “ In Scotland it can be only advisory “

At what point do we become owned by the snp,
At what point do we realise that the singular most important right we have is sovereignty.
Sovereignty, It appears to be extremely important.

Enough for the Scottish government to want to own it for the Scottish parliament,
And important enough for the “ No “ side to want us to shut up about it.

So a big issue, it is important to every Scot should know they own it, before it is stolen.

Sarah.

Although like many others here I no longer have faith in waiting for abstract manipulated referendum that is arranged by Westminster or the snp whom are willing to use detrimental legislation against the Scots.

Not so many posts back I mentioned that I thought there would eventually only be one of two methods for Westminster to deal with the Scots wanting independence.
They would either have to do BJ agreeing thoughts to exterminate the Scots or allow a fixed referendum.

I think the referendum will happen as they look better and have more control of the outcome.
I see the mirror running a story about a referendum in connection with the climate change meetings in Glasgow.
I suspect they will try keep all cameras away from Scots flags and banners on that day.
So the mirror may have forwarded the establishment.

@ James Che: thanks for the moral support!

Re having no faith in a referendum: I agree and had a letter on that subject printed by The National some months ago.

The referendum included in the Research Group’s Plan of Action is a confirmatory one, two years after the declaration of independence. I see on Crossgate Centre’s twitter that the SNP 1997 manifesto took the same view i.e. a majority of MPs would mean immediate negotiations with Westminster for transition – they expected it would take 6-12 months, followed by a vote.

The anti-Scottish hostile entity, and staging post, the Scotland Office, of which just about anyone whose anti-Scottish independence can be parachuted into at a moments notice, which allows them a say on Scotland, has new Lead Non-Executive Director in the shape of former Labour MP Tom Harris.

link to archive.md

Breeks you wrote, “It did not forfeit that Sovereignty.” with everything that’s happened post 2014, Brexit etc, it certainly feels that way.

Forced to agree, but it does my head in. If you don’t stand firm in defence of your sovereignty, then colonial governments like Westminster will take you to the cleaners. They’re not going to piss about while you take forever to get your act together.

I’ve said it before… They whole unconstitutional dogs breakfast of Devolution was proof that Scotland’s Constitutional guardians, whoever they were, had taken their eye off the ball, and allowed foreign doctrines of Parliamentary sovereignty to encroach in areas where they formerly had no jurisdiction and establish a colonial beachhead in Edinburgh. Westminster has been quietly turning that screw since 1998, and Scotland’s “Governments” have been dumb enough, docile enough, or compliant enough, to go along with the fallacy.

We’re not losing sovereignty, we’re giving it away without knowing what we’re doing, because we’re led by Constitutionally illiterate charlatans like Sturgeon, who are fully indoctrinated to believe the Unionist narrative, and surprise, surprise, it’s led us to Section 30, a minor clause in the small ‘c’ constitution of a minor devolved assembly, but it’s being allowed to overrule the Sovereign Constitutional Rights of Scotland. Generation upon generation of Scottish ancestors who stood and fought for Scotland’s right to exist must be turning in their graves.

The saving grace however, I think, is that Scotland’s Constitutional status as Sovereign is not alterable by either Westminster, or Westminster’s puppet Assembly, Holyrood, nor any troop of imbeciles contained therein.

It also touches upon what Alf Baird was saying earlier… you cannot vote away your sovereignty. One generation of Scots cannot vote away the Constitutional birthright to all future generations of Scots.

Robert Peffers once commented about sovereignty when either king died or abdicated the sovereignty, the sovereignty was unaltered, but it instantaneously jumped to the next in line so that the instant the sovereign abdicated sovereignty they were no longer sovereign but someone else was.

It’s all contained in the English expression, “The king is dead. Long live the King”.

So there are now two arguments to contend with… Could the population of Scotland vote to abdicate it’s sovereignty? Well no, because even if there’s a debate to be had about whether a No vote is still sovereign, you can be certain every YES voter hasn’t renounced their sovereignty, and the Scottish Constitution declares for so long as there a hundred of us less alive, the sovereign Nation of Scotland is quorate.

So worst case scenario, if you vote NO, arguably (I don’t agree you are), but say you’re voting away your sovereignty, you’re not voting away mine.

On Scottish sovereignty which there has been much debate about, I hope this puts it to bed once and for all.

“2012 – The Claim of Right was debated in the Scottish Parliament to allow MSPs to re-endorse the claims of the sovereignty of the Scottish people. At the time the then Deputy First Minister Nicola Sturgeon called on all parties to “recommit” to its principles.”

“2018 – Westminster debates Scotland’s Claim of Right and the motion is resolved unopposed.”

link to blog.independencelive.net

Breeks says: at 3:34 pm

Republicofscotland says:
20 October, 2021 at 1:30 pm

“Breeks you wrote, “It did not forfeit that Sovereignty.” with everything that’s happened post 2014, Brexit etc, it certainly feels that way.
The saving grace however, I think, is that Scotland’s Constitutional status as Sovereign is not alterable by either Westminster, or Westminster’s puppet Assembly, Holyrood, nor any troop of imbeciles contained therein.

It also touches upon what Alf Baird was saying earlier… you cannot vote away your sovereignty. One generation of Scots cannot vote away the Constitutional birthright to all future generations of Scots.”
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This is the crux of Sovereignty. The people have it and cannot give it away.

A Scot is born with a birthright and retains it until he/she dies. It is the one thing that WM or the SG/SNP has no control over.

The SG/SNP are only the representatives of the people by virtue of an election.

King Wilhelm of Orange was accepted as King of England only when he agreed to lend his God given, Divine Right of Sovereignty to the English Parliament.

He didn’t lose it because he couldn’t sign or give it away, he loaned it out. Betty is the Sovereign but doesn’t use it (At least not openly as we’ve found out in recent years).

Whoops darn dyslexia and trusting spell checkers sometimes make the conversation just as bad,

Hope the gist of it came through.

This is the crux of Sovereignty. The people have it and cannot give it away.

It’s also why Brexit was, is, and will be so important, because the unwritten convention of UK Parliamentary Sovereignty relies on the principle that the Union is a consensual Union, where Scotland has indeed “leant” it’s sovereignty. But Brexit, and Scotland’s unconstitutional subjugation contrary to the emphatic will of the sovereign people, blows the myth of sovereignty by consensus out the water.

Brexit destroys the Treaty of Union, and Independence was there for the taking in 2016.

Sorry, I meant to say Brexit destroys the Treaty of Union, and Scotland’s subjugation destroys the unwritten convention of sovereignty by consent.

The problem we have is that we have temporarily invested our SOVEREIGNTY through a supposed democratic election in a shower of liars , incompetents ,frauds and self servers which has been the truth for decades , with apparently only one way to wrest it back from those self servers , and that is to hold another election which unfortunately we have no control over the timing of , unless someone knows a legal method we can utilise , (HELP us and Scotland lawyers)

We on WOS have been pointing out and SHOUTING OUT for years that a ref is NOT essential for gaining independence , as sovereign Scots there are other avenues that can be pursued and won BUT the problem is not just lazy arse politicians who are ignorant and duplicitous it encompasses the MAJORITY of the population who have never LEARNED or been EDUCATED about it , and NO POLITICIAN will advertise the power we hold over them

I have just been told that the new Superman cartoon/film is to feature a bisexual Superman – can anyone confirm this particular
bend in the road?

Twathater.

Just like all those before me, That was the point of my trying to to disintangle the fiction of the treaty of the union.
The problem I have is I am not on any social media platform at all, neither is my spouse, to spread this to a wider audience.
I am hoping those that can will,

It must be pointed out to as many as possible that ( the three estates ) in 1707 did not have freedom of untrammelled sovereignty to act on behave on behalf of the whole of Scotland when it agreed to the signing the treaty of the union.

And that Scots never voted to join the treaty of the union in 1707,
Nor have they ever been asked to vote to join the treaty of the union to this day,

The outcome of all these legalities is that the Scots are not in the treaty of the union at all and never have been,
That the Scots and Scotland remain sovereign as a separate entity from the union with England.

However those that supposedly signed Scotland away illegally and received financial rewards for signing the treaty are beholden to the old English parliament for falsely doing so. For falsely claiming to be in complete ownership of Scotland and its sovereign people in 1707.

Dorothy

Re superman thinghy. Yes it was on news few days ago. I saw the clip of Christopher Biggins saying it was madness and of corse that chube of a man Richard Madley had a go at him on GMT.

link to independent.co.uk

” Why the heck can’t we embrace the economies of scale and remove all this faffing about with these numerous installations with associated incentive grant costs and administration, and just supply all households with silent, reasonably priced leccy generated by the abundance of renewables we have here in Scotland.”

Because of the hegemony of Neo Liberal/Capitalism .

There must always be some Private Corporation/Business making fat profits , thereby reducing the amount of money that could – should – be used for it’s notional purpose ie to improve the lives of citizens .

A system so obviously flawed and skewed to enrich a tiny % and one NSNP have embraced unquestioningly

A

Dan

We seem to be moving further away from it – to an ever more centralised concentration of power – but a true devolution of power to local communities is the only answer to the questions you pose .

People – generally – know what’s best for the communities they live in , but rarely have the means to create them : or the power to resist what gets imposed on them

Dan,and there was me thinking all super heroes were asexual.

Thanks Tommo!

Robert Hughes: “There must always be some Private Corporation/Business making fat profits , thereby reducing the amount of money that could – should – be used for it’s notional purpose ie to improve the lives of citizens .”

I have nothing against the free market. I actually like a lot of what it does, but you’d need to be nuts to leave energy to the free market.

The fact is the free market hasn’t worked when it comes to energy. Look at the number of gas companies that just died, leaving millions totally screwed going into the winter.

Nuclear power is totally dependent on tax payer subsidies, as is renewables when you get right into it; the private sector only gets involved after the tax payer has done all the work and taken all the risks — it’s the old story, ‘public costs and private profits’.

Oil is the most costly and tax-payer dependent of them all when you factor in the wars and mayhem that the industry causes, not to mention the environmental damage.

There’s nothing free about a market that depends on bombing and robbing people.

It’s time the world grew up when it comes to this stuff. And the time is right. Scotland could lead the way.

I do not think we will have to worry about any of these things like power supplies or water supplies, housing once our world leaders have all agreed to use covid lockdowns and climate change and re-wild the globe to collapse our economies around the world.

They already have a plan in place.
To build back better.

With most people being controlled with ID passports, face recognition, energy powered smart homes built to be stacked up in tiny spaces in cities and towns around the world.

Your travel ability will be points based and controlled remotely by government.

You will all work or live on the same minimum wage.
And just like with covid, if you do not comply you will lose you’re low paid job and you’re state owned home, and face penalties an fines.

The country side will be of limits to the city and town dwellers, and the circumference you will be allowed to travel away from home will be limited to you’re work hours.
You will own nothing.
And children will be raised by the state as sex toys and future slaves.

You’re medical care will depend on you’re compliance with the state. And a points based system.
Working towards a pension will be a fruitless effort, because the state will exterminate non contributing humans as they did in care homes around the world recently.

Before “ BUILD BACK BETTER “ can happen in the future for the super rich and landowners in of the new world
First they have to collapse the old system,
the old businesses,
The old family networks
The police.
The fire brigades.
The NHS.
The communities,
The interaction between people.
Local shops.
Libraries.
Private access to the internet.
Restrict freedom of speech.
Limit and ban protests.
No face to face personal link or access to local authorities and local amenities except by remote permission.
Dis-gender individuals and produce laboratory children.
All surround protection for leaders to separate from the commoner.

For those that think I am being sarcastic or just joking,
Tic of the ones that sound familiar to you in Scotland.
Then tic of the ones that you are aware of around the world.

James

The future you depict is a plausible POTENTIAL one .

Nothing is inevitable .

Having nothing might be ok . If everyone has nothing .

I agree the trends are * concerning * . It’s all to do with power : who has it , and what are they doing with it .

” Same as it ever was ”

” Remain in light “

The city that black gold built. It’s not Aberdeen!

link to twitter.com

The sick thing, otto, is that they’re going to use Glasgow as some sort of post-industrial success story. The delegates will only get to see the 4 square feet of the city that has WiFi and a Costa.

Maybe that’s for the best. An honest account of Glasgow’s crime, unemployment, and poor health wouldn’t inspire anyone to try and save the planet. The truth of Glasgow drives most people to drugs, drink, and nihilism, not environmentalism.

But it’s the ‘London effect’ that I want to tell them about, not the fabled ‘Glasgow effect’. A decade of transformational Thatcherism was all it took to invert the city’s 300 years of industrial and engineering success.

Who will be first to tell them the city’s name means ‘dear green place’ in Gaelic? Nicola? Boris? Or some authentic Glaswegian asswipe with a “like me, like me” west end accent?

Can anyone imagine a more negative motto for a city than;

“HERE’S THE BIRD THAT NEVER FLEW, HERE’S THE TREE THAT NEVER GREW, HERE’S THE BELL THAT NEVER RANG, HERE’S THE FISH THAT NEVER SWAM…”

If we are going to be morbid assholes, we should at least update it. Here’s my suggestion for a new motto;

“Here’s the father that never worked, here’s the son that’s truly fucked, here’s the daughter that never hoped, here’s the mum that never coped…”

Welcome to Glasgow.

@ ROS

St Mungo’s skills were of the era.
In the late 20th century in a world full of numpties you could obtain legend status if you were able to revive a drill by holding the dark art skills of being able to clean up the commutator and install a replacement pair of brushes in a Black n Decker, or beat the spring and correctly fit a new pull cord into the recoil starter mechanism of a Briggs n Stratton mower engine.
Being able to tune a carburetor properly with the myriad jet options also elevates one to Superthang status.
The Pretenders even had a song about the latter… Got Brass in Pocket.

Of course those internal combustion related skills are now being pressurised into being bad and redundant by the Thunderberg zealots, who think they can fix everything and even cut grass using a laptop or smartphone.

But now, in the early 21st century, legend status can be obtained by managing to change your sex simply by using the power of thought, and sort out whatever the fuck the latest Windoes “upgrade” has done to you computer…

And the road we choose to walk is our choice,

Chenchos,

For a moment in time, for a specific event it may be apt,

But for the rest of the year, or the disinfranchised. The poor, the homeless the food banks, the unemployed no so.

COP26 is simply a greenwashed lobbying bukake-fest for the elite to ejaculate their smug virtue onto the face of Mother Earth. Again.

Mia,

I like you’re assentment of the puppet manovrued NS, and in general whose side are the snp on.
Of the the many times that the treaty of the union is not only in tatters, broken beyond it original agreement.
but used as convenient hold over Scotland only when the Westminster parliament need a club to beat Scotland,

The interference from a monarch that is not supposed to interfere.
And the abuse of Scots laws being under the England’s Supreme Court as over seer that is a broken treaty.

For me the treaty of the union today is farce, a one sided treaty that does not hold any water in the legal sense.
But also the actual legal position in its origins is null and void to Scotland, Scots and its country.
For We the sovereign Scot did not vote for our people or country to join the treaty of the union in 1707,
Not then or now,
It has been a presumption acted upon of the Three Estates and the Commissioners in 1707 that they were sovereign over all of Scotland at that time,
As Lord Cooper pointed out in the court of sessions 1953 this was not the reality of their position at that time to even incorporate Scotland into the treaty of the union.

Changing the subject,
I am glad you are still writing and commenting such a good peace as this,
You may have had to change venues due to the bullying of the trolls WOS towards yourself.

It just proves the point of why they wanted to shut you down.
You have written a good well articulated piece on the broken treaty of the union, and I am happy you did not give up.

Suggesting priorities of the day:
(a) Get Craig Murray out.
(b) Get Nicola out.
In any order.

Keith Brown could do (a) at a stroke of the pen.

Interesting post “That Franchise” by Mia on yoursforscotlandcom.wordpress.com

Ron Maclean.

Very interesting and well articulated. And recommended reading.

Mia raises many valid points, and

I for one no longer believe that a referendum on “do we want to remain in the treaty of the union” is the correct way to go forward for Scottish independence,
Nor a valid question or method run by the same parliaments that have ignored the facts of and reneged on that treaty if it ever existed for the Scots.

Or with/by the monarchs approvel of a referendum by the same said monarchs that have interfered and help break the treaty of the union articles.

I am more inclined than ever to think that we the Scots are not in a treaty with England since 1707.
I am also of the opinion that if Westminster continue to contrive we were, they themselves have demolished it legal context and meaning from its original.
For if it is a treaty between TWO countries, that Westminster wished to abide by as a legal reason for Britain to exist.
Why does Westminster think it inherited both sides of the treaty.
It did not.
But thinks it did.
The reflection on Westminster parliament and politicians to suppose it owns both treaty’s, The Scots side of the treaty and England’s side of the is based on arrogance. Rather than reality.
For if it purely belong to England they would not have needed to agree to a treaty with Scotland in the first instance.
The treaty if exists is legal for both Scotland and England kingdoms of old, except for one small hiccup.
The monarch of Scotland did not sign over his kingdom into a treaty with England in 1707.

1) because the Scottish monarch had fled out of the country, so did not agree to it.

2) because the Three Estates and the commissioners were not sovereign in 1707.

3) The monarchy had signed its sovereignty over to the Scots as a people and a nation under the Declaration of Arbroath, which has never been retracted.

4) it cannot be retracted unless the Scots wish to hand their legal sovereignty back personally as individuals..

Breeks.
The closet answer I can supply is that the snp avoid the “ yes” movement and deep questioning like we have the recent virus, like the yes movement are scum or dirt.

They have a deep fear of being found out for wearing the wrong coat. So far as they can they avoid being questioned by the real public.
If they were on the same trench as the rest of us they would not have disassociated themselves from their membership and blocked us as Mr Murrells did.

We know they are not with us, we know we are no longer able to protest at Holyrude when the public do not agree,
We know they have cordoned themselves off from the Scots nation and country,
We therefore know they are not going to Do interviews.

We would be better calling them out in public on social media until it gets their goat,
We can also mount a champeign for “ The Sovereign Scots say SNP/ greens coalition OUT” on social Media. Seeing as that was not the result of our last election vote.

There are many good bloggers, with excellent well articulated articles and facts.
These need to be shared and reposted to as many as possible, as that is the option media available to us.

If anyone here can give advise to those of us not computer literate how to post, copy and paste and submit, how to join twitter or Facebook and spread the real message further.
For it is us by helping each other, by supporting each other, by writing articles that will eventually bypass the MSM media obstacles and the the SNPs revulsion to being interviewed by the Yes movement.

When they become aware how tenuous their position actually is with the public.
For at the present the MSM is protecting them from any verbal comments or opinions of the YES movement.

James Che. says:
21 October, 2021 at 3:57 pm

If anyone here can give advise to those of us not computer literate how to post, copy and paste and submit, how to join twitter or Facebook and spread the real message further.

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Joining twatter or facefuck is easy, so not sure why you need advice…

You’re point may be more accurate and I would cheeky enough to ask that it is more historically put into context for myself and many others here to understand.

I can’t as such. There’s nothing I can refer you to, but the discussion as I remember it was that Scotland didn’t have a sovereign as such, because nobody got to the “top” as such without the support of the various clans and clan chieftains, and similar factions in the church.

In essence, that’s probably the predecessor of the three Estates concept, – rather than any ethereal or divine “appointment by God” principle, (as was common elsewhere), if you didn’t have the terrestrial support of particular people, you weren’t going to be king very long.

An English King was sovereign with only God above him. A Scottish King was more like a managing director, and answerable to the shareholders, thus making the shareholders technically sovereign.

“In essence, that’s probably the predecessor of the three Estates concept, – rather than any ethereal or divine “appointment by God” principle, (as was common elsewhere), if you didn’t have the terrestrial support of particular people, you weren’t going to be king very long.

An English King was sovereign with only God above him. A Scottish King was more like a managing director, and answerable to the shareholders, thus making the shareholders technically sovereign.”

Breeks @5.19pm.

Yes, the church played a major rule in supporting the monarch of the day, in days gone by in Scotland, the church in Scotland supported Robert the Bruce to the throne, more in self preservation than in favour, especially when the Bruce all but finished of John Comyn in a church, that aside the king of England Edward Ist tried to replace the Scots clergy with an English one so the Bruce received their support.

As for your second paragraph, that wasn’t always the case, kings were chosen on merit prior to William the Conquerer who was crowned king on Christmas Day.

Incidentally the Bruce like William the Conqueror, is of Norman descent.

@ Breeks 3.11pm regarding your comment that the bloggers are not getting the SNP planks in the room to interview them , or my preference INTERROGATE them for their lies and corruption

I posted a comment asking Iain Lawson to set up and lead a committee of bloggers who we all support and frequent to DEMAND a meeting with Sturgeon to CHALLENGE her on why she REFUSES to use our SOVEREIGNTY to dissolve the treaty or why she refuses to set out a plebiscite election , even if she refuses a meeting it would inform others of her contempt for independence supporters and may even result in drawing attention from the meeja

Iain responded that it may not be advantageous to do it now because we don’t all agree with each other re the direction of travel or how to get there , in other words some bloggers disagree with other bloggers exposing Sturgeon and her crew of frauds as frauds

I responded to Iain with reasons why we NEEDED to do it , if you or anyone else is interested in reading the response it is on his blog

I put forward a proposal a year ago , to produce a pro forma document that everyone could download and sign individually , to threaten Sturgeon and her SNP cowards that if she did NOT consent to a plebiscite election and shelve the GRA and HCB we the people would NOT vote for her ,naebody was interested I even asked the Rev to support the idea (silence)

MAY 2021 Sturgeon both votes SNP won the election and has SHIT on everybody ever since , the ONLY way we will win anything is to get rid of her OR FORCE HER TO ACT and the only way we can do that is through pressure of numbers

Iain Lawson and Roddy barrheadboy McLeod have PROVEN the PRISM WORKS and is educational , the guest bloggers they have on are stalwart indy supporters , there is NOTHING TO LOSE AND EVERYTHING TO GAIN by DEMANDING an audience , we HAVE to do something , marches are just ignored by her and the/her media

@Hatuey – 20 Oct 9:56 pm

“I would suggest that the government makes it a goal to buy back those [renewable] assets at a fair price”

So what would a fair price be? We are talking about all the renewable resources of Scotland, which is blessed with so much of these (allegedly) that it can be self-sufficient in energy and have so much surplus to export that we all be rich (allegedly). And this cornucopia will be limitless and endless as long as the wind blows. What’s this fair price then? What currency is it paid in? Who is it borrowed from and over what period?

I asked for a plausible, feasible process. You tell me you have a suggestion for a goal. Don’t tell me you are channeling your inner Martin Luther King here Hatuey: “I have a suggestion for a goal!”. With firebrand ideas like that, you obviously missed your true vocation.

“If there’s a lack of cooperation exhibited …”

There may just be Hatuey, don’t you think? The owners of resources which are inexhaustible and therefore arguably of infinite value may well think their interests are best served by holding onto them.

“Do at least try to be intelligent in the things you type here.”

I am so sorry Hatuey, but tell you what. You go ahead and show us how it is done. I’m waiting but no rush, you take your time.

Testing

An angry simpleton in the cheap seats shouts: “So what would a fair price be?”

There are reasonably well defined ways of determining the value of a company. Go Google it.

“I asked for a plausible, feasible process.”

You didn’t actually.

” When U.K. farmers pack up, will NZ lamb go up substantially in price? ”

Yes , it will .

A further question ….

What will happen with the land * freed-up * when farming joins the other industries destroyed by * Free * Market economics ?

On the eve of COPout 26 ( back in the kitchen Sturgeon , get that tea made ) we’re being told to hail the * success * of a trade deal involving importing produce from about as far away as possible , at the expense of our locally sourced produce .

Green wash + Brain wash = White wash

Harsh words Tannadice Boy.

But oh so absolutely true. As for our engineering base, our manufacturing base, well why would you want to be an engineer when you can aspire to work in retail, KFC, McDonalds.

Ah, who is like us. We are world champions, top of the league, best educated, free and of independent mind.

And it shows.

Why did the golfer changes his socks?

Because he got a hole in one!

(Thanks Alexa!)

Wull: “But this is an issue which goes far beyond Party politics, or loyalties.”

I concur. And anyone who says an issue like this shouldn’t be politicised is actually politicising it.

Robin McAlpine could have gone further. It is alleged that Sturgeon broke the ministerial code over the Nike conference cover-up. If what Robin is saying is true, she possibly done so to protect the commercial interests of the hotel involved, putting those interests above the health of the Scottish people.

The herd immunity strategy was insane and cost thousands of lives in Scotland. Many said so at the time and, like those who advised a more honest response to the Nike conference outbreak, were ignored.

Sturgeon wanted to grandstand and take the credit personally for managing the pandemic. That was the priority from the start and it blinded her to the insanity of the UK government approach which she followed to the letter. Thousands died as a result.

If she thinks she can now blame that UK approach for the failings and deaths, when it was her personal decision to follow that approach in lockstep, she is treating us with the same sociopathic levels of contempt that caused all the deaths in the first place.

But you’re right, Wull, it isn’t political. It’s much bigger than that.

Sturgeon 24th of April 2020

Life will never be the same again.

A very dramatic statement just weeks after this pantomime started , how could she have been so sure this was a life changing event.

The Scottish government has acquired powers all on its own without reference to the public who have elected this current government

Did you a SNP voter vote for a deranged Green Party ? , were you aware that this SNP government in enacting emergency powers effectively has binned democracy and are doing what they want or what they are being told to do , also were you aware that they approached Patel to assist them enact a legal barrier between the public and our access to our parliament special powers were needed to do this , and the trusted SNP government pretends it was the will of the Scottish Parliament and nothing to do with them ,

These emergency powers are due for review in September next year with the option of a extension without further consent being required and given the majority they enjoy with the Greens being bribed a vote of no confidence is off the agenda , how long is this farce going to continue ? Well who knows because democracy is now suspended,

All this for your own good and well-being you understand so just shut up and don’t even think of complaining and if you do complain who is going to listen ? That’s of course if you can track down someone to complain to in the first place , all this is too clever to come from Sturgeon and her little band of weirdos , so who’s pulling the strings because it’s certainly not her .

Hatuey says:
22 October, 2021 at 1:46 pm
Breeks: “Ah but Covid?”

It’s bizarre to me that some people think things like the transgender rights debate could be more important than covid.

What I find a little bizarre is your convoluted interpretation of what I said.