The world's most-read Scottish politics website

Wings Over Scotland


They can’t help themselves

Posted on October 07, 2013 by

Defence Secretary Phillip Hammond on independence in the Mail on Sunday:

“It is a real dagger poised at the heart of Scotland’s industrial infrastructure.”

And here’s our old pal Adolf “One Nation” Hitler in 1938, before his first invasion:

“Czechoslovakia is a dagger pointed at the heart of Germany.”

It’s looking increasingly as if someone at “Better Together” got a copy of “Speak Like A Nazi” for their birthday. We await their increased abrasiveness with some concern.

23 to “They can’t help themselves”

  1. Solidarity, Rev! 

    Reply
  2. Graeme R says:

    A Tory minister warning the people of Scotland about our industrial infrastructure?? Is that the industrial infrastructure his party shredded in the 1980’s? The sheer brass neck on him.

    Reply
  3. RodneySofa says:

    Truly they really are the nasty party. I think that’s what I mean?
    Still, the harder they come, the harder they fall, one and all.
    By the way loved the Bechet yesterday, always one cd in the car for those long drives up to Sutherland. Fair lifted the heart.

    Reply
  4. Eddie says:

    Tories appear to have extremely short memories of the devestation they wrought on Scottish infrastructure.
     
    I have family in Cumbernauld and I remember seeing first hand the changing face of Ravenscraig as the train would pass by the facility on route from Springburn.

    Reply
  5. Murray McCallum says:

    Ah, this is all making sense. Czechoslovakia, like Scotland, provided Lebensraum.
     
    Scots after all can’t govern themselves, run their economy or defend themselves.

    Reply
  6. Shanghai Scot says:

    Moore is out, replaced by Carmichael, is it significant.?

    Reply
  7. HandandShrimp says:

    What can be said about Hammond that the UK military have not already said?

    Reply
  8. Murray McCallum says:

    Hammond’s natural use of right wing dialogue borrowed from history is quite timely given Lord Robertson’s recent assertion in Dundee that “Catalonia and Flanders have language and culture. We [Scotland] don’t have any of that.”
     
    The Better Together League seem to be assaulting every aspect of Scottish identity and capability.

    Reply
  9. muttley79 says:

    What was the quote that Reinhard Heydrich used again about independence?  Is this a deliberate plan by BT to use Nazi language against the Yes campaign?  It comes a week after Lamont’s infamous “virus” comments.  If so then it is fucking mental…

    Reply
  10. Godwins law states the longer a discussion continues the more likely a comparison with the Nazis is likely to occur. Usually pointing this out is enough to silence them.

    Reply
  11. Mosstrooper says:

    @Muttley re Reinhard Heydrich
     
    “Deprive the people of their National Consciousness, treat them as a tribe and not a Nation, dilute their National pride, do not teach their history, propagate their language as inferior, imply they have a cultural void, emphasise  their customs are primitive and dismiss independence as a barbaric anomaly”

    On the Germanisation of Czechoslovakia.

    Anything there ring any bells? 

    Reply
  12. muttley79 says:

    @Mosstrooper
     
    Thanks.  The quote is not exactly reassuring is it?

    Reply
  13. Macart says:

    These feckers are becoming seriously more disturbing by the day. ‘A dagger at the heart of…’ Really, who thinks that using almost direct quotes from the nazi propaganda releases is a brilliant plan? Worse they don’t seem to have a problem with that.
     
    FFS

    Reply
  14. cath says:

    ““Deprive the people of their National Consciousness, treat them as a tribe and not a Nation, dilute their National pride, do not teach their history, propagate their language as inferior, imply they have a cultural void, emphasise  their customs are primitive and dismiss independence as a barbaric anomaly”
     
    That’s been going on here for decades or centuries. It hasn’t work, has it?

    Reply
  15. cath says:

    My Grandad was born and brought up with the Gaelic language but caned at school for using it. Turned him into an early supporter of the SNP and independence. It’s as much for him and people like him I’ll be putting that cross in the Yes box as for us in the present and future generations.

    Reply
  16. Mosstrooper says:

    @ Cath.
    When I hear Robertson et al pouring forth verbal excreta and when I hear their words reiterated there are times when I think it is a damn close run thing.

    Reply
  17. Arbroath 1320 says:

    Sorry Stu I couldn’t help myself here. :D:
     
    Question is
    do we prefer the NO camp reading “Speak like a Nazi”
    OR
    do we prefer the NO camp “Walking like an Egyptian”


    Reply
  18. David McEwan Hill says:

    It is an accelerating process on the Better Together side -the inevitable and irreversible result of defending the indefensible, of having no constructive case which makes it impossible for impressive leadership to develop or exist. In the Scottish Parliament the LDs are already reduced to being led by a garden gnome, the Tories by a wee lassie who couldn’t even manage second place in her seat at election and by a succession of Labour figures each less able than the predecessor. The procees continues 

    Reply
  19. Marion says:

    @muttley79, Mosstrooper, Macart, Cath
    I agree that the quote from Reinhard Heydrich precisely fits how Scotland and her people are treated by Westminster.  I think especially of Ken Macintosh insisting that teaching Scottish history in Scottish schools is parochial.  Do you think that the No voters really believe that Scotland can’t run her own affairs or is there something here that we are missing?  Are they afraid that in the event of as No vote in 2014 all the Yes voters may have to have a period of re-education (or more) in a nice camp in the country?  The language of the jackboot is very scary.  I hope I’m wrong.

    Reply
  20. Macart says:

    @Marion
     
    Post any no vote the policies of the UK will be decided as per usual by the vote of the middle England electorate. This same electorate as we speak have the Tories on equal pegging with Labour for a 2015 GE win. That pretty much says it all. They’re happy with welfare reforms, don’t seem too bothered by the criminalising of the poor, love to break out the flags for any old national knees up and clearly back Westminster’s foreign policy.
     
    Hell yes, I’m bloody terrified. 😮

    Reply
  21. gordoz says:

    The Tories and  the military intlellect  that is the Hammond – surely the gift that keeps on giving !!!!

    Reply
  22. wee jamie says:

    Industrial infrastructure ? what’s that daddy ? did we used tae huv that when you were wee in the 70’s ?

    Reply
  23. wee jamie says:

    Aye son , then England went and voted fur an auld tory cow called thatcher !!

    Reply


Comment - please read this page for comment rules. HTML tags like <i> and <b> are permitted. Use paragraph breaks in long comments. DO NOT SIGN YOUR COMMENTS, either with a name or a slogan. If your comment does not appear immediately, DO NOT REPOST IT. Ignore these rules and I WILL KILL YOU WITH HAMMERS.


  • About

    Wings Over Scotland is a thing that exists.

    Stats: 6,879 Posts, 1,236,438 Comments

  • Recent Posts

  • Archives

  • Categories

  • Tags

  • Recent Comments

    • Young Lochinvar on When the law breaks the law: “O Not just bad men then eh?Feb 21, 00:33
    • Young Lochinvar on When the law breaks the law: “HMcH Well Oi Vey Y’all!! FYI: Mumbling was permitted when swearing-in in divided Glasgow back then.. AI not tell you…Feb 21, 00:01
    • Onlooker on When the law breaks the law: “Reply reply reply reply reply reply reply sneer fart waffle baffle babble…if you are a paid bot, you must have…Feb 20, 23:22
    • Onlooker on When the law breaks the law: “Forgive my lack of exact recollection of details, but didn’t Nicola Sturgeon recommend Dorothy Bain for the Lord Advocate job…Feb 20, 23:20
    • Young Lochinvar on When the law breaks the law: “Anyone see the irony of Ross Greer attacking Randy Andy (guilty as eff probably) while “its” party was the governmental…Feb 20, 23:20
    • Hatey McHateface on When the law breaks the law: “I recall you claiming you served in the British Army. That will make you one of the very few (perhaps…Feb 20, 23:14
    • Young Lochinvar on When the law breaks the law: “Interesting how quickly, all things considered, that things have moved on since Auld Lizzie the lizard shuffled off this mortal…Feb 20, 22:53
    • chic kirk on When the law breaks the law: “i donated but will do so again as needed, we the public must step forwrd to support people like mark…Feb 20, 22:23
    • David Holden on When the law breaks the law: “Perhaps we should be running a crowd funder for the world’s greatest living half Greek former prince who has fallen…Feb 20, 16:07
    • sarah on When the law breaks the law: “@ Mark Hirst: I donated when you first opened the crowdfunder and will do so again. I note that the…Feb 20, 15:55
    • Oneliner on When the law breaks the law: “I’m as British as a Canadian is North AmericanFeb 20, 15:28
    • Hatey McHateface on When the law breaks the law: “Well, well! Grudging respect to Professor Baird. Precisely as predicted by Fanon, Memmi, et al, the linguistically colonised YL has…Feb 20, 15:08
    • Hatey McHateface on When the law breaks the law: “Hasn’t the world’s greatest living half Scot, President Donald Trump, defunded that useless, toothless talking shop and safe haven for…Feb 20, 14:38
    • Young Lochinvar on When the law breaks the law: “HMcH Eh? Sorry, no idea what you’re talking about. Have you been indulging in self-trepanation again..Feb 20, 14:35
    • Fearghas MacFhionnlaigh on When the law breaks the law: ““The Act of Union at least protected the Scots legal system” ? ————- Worth listening again to the seminal speech…Feb 20, 14:22
    • dearieme on When the law breaks the law: “All this is a powerful argument against devolved Scottish government. Scrap the bloody thing, it’s failed. The Act of Union…Feb 20, 13:27
    • Hatey McHateface on When the law breaks the law: “Great stuff, Northy. I’d heard of galactic clusters. Now you’re teaching me about galactic clusterfucks.Feb 20, 12:07
    • Northcode on When the law breaks the law: “Chris Wormald… former Cabinet Secretary for Great Britain, UK, and England recently replaced by: Dame Antonia Rebecca Caroline Angharad Catherine…Feb 20, 11:39
    • McDuff on When the law breaks the law: “Donated. Best of luck Mark as you have been severely wronged and the thugs that targeted you need to be…Feb 20, 11:20
    • Northcode on The Future Is Yesterday: “The past is tomorrow… not least because us humans insist on repeating history, and with not a single lesson ever…Feb 20, 11:17
    • Hatey McHateface on When the law breaks the law: “Aye, Alf, I guess if the only tool in your armoury is a spoon, every situation must look like a…Feb 20, 10:48
    • Alf Baird on When the law breaks the law: ““The case we’re discussing here is entirely home grown” Don’t be silly. Despite the inevitable ‘on-the-ground indigenous agents'(Elkins) operating in…Feb 20, 10:37
    • Hatey McHateface on When the law breaks the law: “There’s something about Fanon makes my hair curl.Feb 20, 10:28
    • willie on The Future Is Yesterday: “Rejected by the electorate in the constituency but then perchance a seat at the top of the regional list. Why…Feb 20, 10:23
    • Andy Wiltshire on When the law breaks the law: “I’m cheering them on, but no doubt someone will explain that it’s all just something straight out of post-colonial theory…Feb 20, 10:05
    • Hatey McHateface on When the law breaks the law: ““Movie”, YL? You’re colonised and you don’t even know it.Feb 20, 08:46
    • Young Lochinvar on When the law breaks the law: “Anyone else reckon Bain’s heid has a similar(ish) profile to a movie Predator? Just without the odd breathy way of…Feb 19, 22:36
    • robertkknight on When the law breaks the law: “Pay day next week…standby! The alphabets and their party connections are no secret. Nor indeed their motivations. They still enjoy…Feb 19, 22:01
    • agentx on When the law breaks the law: “O/T – but the Mens’s curling team are through to the final – guaranteed at least a silver medal and…Feb 19, 22:01
    • Nae Need! on When the law breaks the law: “Mark, Good luck. I’ve donated.Feb 19, 19:33
  • A tall tale



↑ Top