Wings Over Scotland

A bear did it, and it morphed into a giant media squirrel.

…loved the touch with the fake “bear print” devices thrown into the bushes 🙂

Shes a great leader , she is demonstrating to us of what a strong and safe pair of hands we have guarding us from those pesky Ruskies . Has the world went potty, but it just shows you how gullible people are if you keep repeating the same mantra . Chris, i did hope your toon would involve this make believe incident which we know very little of at all. Its just superb as always.

She canny bear it!

The political mainstream media of the UK should hang their heads in shame. They are nothing short of Westminster puppets. The Government tells them the Russians did it, and the Russians are awful, and they duly scurry away to write their parroted, dogma-driven rubbish. No critique, no questioning. The London Government says it, so we must believe it.

BUT, what is even worse, is the absolute vilification by those same unthinking and uncritical so-called ‘journalists’ of anybody who dares to question the narrative.

We fully expect such behaviour of the state run, and London controlled propagandist mouthpiece, the BBC, but too many so-called ‘journalists’ just took every word by Theresa May as the gospel.

Just like Iraq. Just like the WMD’s ‘that can be used by Saddam to attack us in fifteen minutes’. Just like the ‘sexed up’ dossier’. A pack of lies. These so-called ‘journalists’ have learnt nothing.

What an utter joke the UK has become. Their is NOTHING great in Great Britain.

Time for Scotland to rip up the treaty we have with England, and let them go their own way, with their brexit stupidity. Time for Scotland to be independent again.

They may just be able to hold what’s left of the empire together until the next royal sprog arrive. 🙂

They may just be able to hold on to what’s left of the empire until the next royal sprog arrives. 🙂

TROLL…!

Nice Chris.

This ‘new’ low bench mark looks to have the BBC stamp of approval.

#wayfinders

When this news broke one of the first questions I asked myself was what has Russia to gain from this? The second was why have they left a smoking gun at the scene leading right back to them?
I wouldn’t trust the British Government as far as I could throw them, it’s not as if they haven’t used these tactics before to justify their illegal actions. Gullibility and ignorance are endemic in large sections of the general public and many thousands appear to go through life in a permanent state of distraction. Sometimes I sit and wonder what makes these people tick.

All the evidence suggests that they haven’t a clue whodunnit.

Seems to me that it could well be the case they needed a deflection and Russia is the current flavour for deflecting.

As a poster on the previous thread suggests perhaps they are again going to go for a GE to try and get a bigger majority. The English vote Tory in droves when there is a perceived National Security threat. This would allow TM to progress Brexit on her own terms without having to worry about the more extreme elements. They could also try and bulldoze the SG and further erode the SNP at Westminster.

The next few weeks should be interesting with regards to EU Brexit negotiations, Continuity Bill and #BearGate.

In the meantime an interesting reflection.
link to ejmagnier.com

link to craigmurray.org.uk

When did the Brutish state every require factual evidence. It is enough to ‘feel’ the threat for the old lion to get the imperial hump. In all this we might regard Russia as our friend. We do have a common enemy after all, the lying, propagandist BritState media being one of the elements.
The National party should demand to see the evidence for this charge. Until then we may simply assume Brexit smoke screen and Brit pique at losing face: Britannia contra mundum.
‘Great Game II’ will soon be available on line.

Certainly feels like end game for the yoonited kingdom.
The MSM emperor is naked.

Another snap GE to deal with Corbyn, dump the DUP and spike the SG plans for IndyRef2?

Mmmm – the tories must be tempted, they really must.

They would have to dump May first, of course.

Extremely high risk, but these dopes are getting desperate.

Popcorn ordered. 🙂

What a week for commie haters, Chris. What a week for the Tory Party resurrecting the Cold War to smear opponents. Doddy and his tickling stick hardly in his grave when up pops McCarthy with his hammer and sickle.

How swiftly can we dump the despicable state called Englandshire?

Your essential weekend reading:

Russians assassins: link to wp.me
Another assassin: link to wp.me

Remember – don’t talk about loving ‘red’ sunsets!

I really hope that May (or her replacement) refuses to sanction IndyRef 2 and Nicola goes ahead with it anyway.

What to do? Would the tories then initiate a yoon boycott of Indyref2, or would they ignored the result if it went against them?

Either way, the union could not survive a constitutional crisis of such magnitude.

The Russian bear actually keeps rather cool. Not so long ago Nato staged wargames in the Baltic zone not far from St Peterburg. Imagine the Western response if Russia were to conduct such warlike activity in the North Sea. Boris the Crumpled would huff n puff to a braying assembly waving order papers in a provocative manner.

We had ‘Reds under the Beds’ at the time of the General Election held on 28th February 1974. It didn’t do the Tories any good then.

Are the Tories looking for another Falklands boost?

Rev. Can I suggest you make a Facebook-type emoji bar available for Chris’s Saturday cartoon.

I was looking to put-in a “pissing myself laughing” emoji when I looked at today’s offering.

The bear paw stencil sticking out of the bushes – brilliant.

All that is missing is the suirrel.

I think The WM Tory cabal have over egged this one. Many will be willing to take Westminster’s word knowing full well should they mess up they will stand entirely alone.

Absolute gold on the Rev’s twitter feed this morning.

The Stephen Hawking tweets are particularly funny.

Do not read this comment if you do not want, it is not compulsory. Reader beware.

Just anecdotal how far things have come. A voter who detest politics and politicians with a vengeance. A stanch immoveable rock. Intransigence No Party member. Condemns them all with malicious comment and disgust. Conservative with a small ‘c’ . Although having more radical views when younger.

Yet Voted Tory, NO and Brexit and denied it. (might get slagged off) Despite endless attempts of persuasion. All the usual derogatory comments. Slagg off the EU. They do not understand it. Or it’s workings. They were quite a Farague admirer – irrationally bigoted -but it is possible they would not vote UKIP. In any case no candidate. They like and admire Putin and he is the only one speaking sense and occasionally Trump. Not a total bad guy but they blow hot and cold. They not like Obama/Clinton. They detest the illegal wars and are worried irrationally about terrorism. Do not like migration. Believe in the illuminati.

They are now so enraged at the situation. They are writing letters to Alex Salmond to give support and congratulations.(always had a sneaking admiration) Sending letters to the local Tory MP and other Tory representatives. with condemnation. Totally unthinkable before. They are totally raging about Spygate and what the Tories unionists are doing.A total 100% turnaround. Almost miraculous conversion. Unbelievable. Many ‘l told you so’ comments. Not being gratefully received. They like to be right.

Everyone in these circles who voted Brexit. A few. Even though they support the SNP and Independence. (The majority). They were warned. They want another IndyRef2, in any case and would still vote SNP and YES. They totally regret voting Brexit and want another EU Ref.

It must be true because the BBC said so?????

An amateur attempt and botched to make it look like the commies did it.

Pandas are bears, are they not? And the Scottish immigrant Pandas breeding programme has just been suspiciously suspended.

Rev Stu goes on Bear Patrol – was he the real intended victim?

Theresa and her pals are bare faced liars – was it her?

@Luigi
Well they tried to offload Pitcairn on New Zealand. After NZ pragmatically hosted the Pitcairn paedophile trials HMG enquired of NZG if they wanted to take Pitcairn on.

At the time NZ was engaged, under the UN Decolonisation Program in trying to persuade Niue, responsibility for which NZ inherited from Britain, to vote for Independence. They voted No, before we did. Vast majority of the working age population are in NZ earning money for remittances home. They greatly fear losing that. Little income from Niue, coral cliffs instead of beaches so little tourism. Pretty stamps, some copra, that’s about it.

gtaeeffinblock

If you listened to the FM it is clear she has her own concerns based on the simple fact she stated that ” if what we have been told is accurate” But you knew that block. U a corbynister apologist ?

GMS today heroically pushing the “Evil Putin” line and tarnishing Jeremy Corbyn while they’re at it. Clunky cold war language such as “the state apparatus” thrown in. Text book propaganda mode.

They even managed a “who is Seamus Milne” item without mentioning that he is the son of Alasdair Milne, former DG of the BBC, sacked by Thatcher for making great BBC programmes.

Corbyn and Milne are sinister Commie sympathisers, patsies of Evil Putin. That’s who they are, says the BBC.
Nicola has escaped that fate, so far.

Its a funny old world ( Mr Putin )

Lots of people say Mr Putin is not a nice man, when what they should really be saying is, politics and espionage are not nice fields to be involved in.
But they are both what they are, and we have to live with it, lets look at Mr Putin first, yes he has been behind a lot of dodgy stuff, so was thatcher, she give the order to sink the Belgrano in the falklands war, hundreds of young men where murdered by her when that ship was destroyed, it was certainly a war crime, and it was done in front of the whole world and nothing was done to her, so we have had bad people as our prime minister.
George Bush was once the leader of the CIA, now the CIA has a bigger budget than lots of countries throughout the world, been involved in murders, assassinations, overthrown governments, they do it all, George Bush took us into the gulf war, lots of people killed by the american military in this war, was George Bush a nice man.
So before anyone starts to say Putin is not a very nice person, just remember politics can be a dirty business, and the west has had our dirty hands in most of the troubles, even if its just supplying the hardware for the warring factions to kill each other

@Bill not Ben,

Just to be clear. Are you actually claiming being a politician can justify murder ?

Gfaetheblock @ 1.39 I will repeate what I said on a previous posting…I believe the SNP’s support for the, no evidence, Novichock poisoning pantomime has outsmarted the Tory government. There is little doubt that Teresa May going large on this event has brought welcome squirrel deflection from the Brexit mess still going on in the background but I also think that they thought they could include a conveniently timed trap to demonise and undermine the Scottish governments credibility in the ‘power grab’ negotiations. In 2003 the SNP MP’s were vilified for voting against the Iraq war. I believe the Tories also expected the SNP to have a similar stance to Jeremy Corbin and ask for evidence and independent proof of Russian involvement (especially as Ecky is ‘under the Kremlin’s control’ on RT). This would then allow a MSM and BBC onslaught of the SNP for ‘not bringing the country together’ in times of attack by a very bad Mr Putin. (Patriotism for ‘our’ union, SNP are tractors etc). I think Nicola has brilliantly avoided this trap and outwitted Teresa May in saying that, based on the briefing the SNP has received from the ‘security services’, they fully support her. When it all comes out that it was all lies and falsehoods then Nicola is squeaky clean and can still say that she acted on the information she was told by May’s government at the time.

@Capella

I fully expect anyone questioning the Russian conclusions without the full evidence will soon be receiving a white Ushanka.

Neither Saddam nor Gadaffi had nuclear weapons. Kim Jong Un has. Putin could wipe out the world. So no – there wont be a hot war with Russia (fingers crossed!)IMO.

Next target is Iran. They don’t yet have nuclear weapons but they have the world’s largest reserves of oil.

Lesson – get yourself some nuclear weapons if you want to protect yourself from “the West”.

If the trolls contribute lots to this site and genuine enthusiasts stop posting because of that the trolls win.
Just scroll past them.
Wings is far to valuable to lose.

Actually some of the trollings give good opportunity to refine our positions.

Lesson – get yourself some nuclear weapons if you want to protect yourself from “the West”.

And the “East” Capella. Ukraine gave there’s up. Putin invades.

link to en.wikipedia.org

On December 5, 1994 the leaders of Ukraine, Russia, Britain and the United States signed a memorandum to provide Ukraine with security assurances in connection with its accession to the NPT as a non-nuclear weapon state”

link to huffingtonpost.com

In 1994, through an accident of fate, the newly independent country of Ukraine found itself in possession of the world’s third largest nuclear arsenal.

At first, Ukraine planned to keep its nuclear weapons. But, at the insistence of the two strongest powers in the world — Russia and the United States — Ukraine agreed to give up their nukes in exchange for perpetual guarantees of sovereignty and territorial integrity.”

Grrreat cartoon, Chris!

The UK continues to spiral out of control with the Tories at the helm.

Scotland simply must get ready to strap on the parachutes and jump.

A bizarre coincidence? Someone has posted video of a truckload of weapons headed for the rebels in E Ghouta. Intercepted by the Syrian army, allegedly.
A canister labelled “Salisbury, England” clearly displayed at 42 seconds.
link to muraselon.com

Brilliant Chris, surely worth a pay rise .. 🙂

Its working, shock! After only 2 weeks of full on BBC bizzaro vote Teresa propaganda/ Poor old Jeremy really does look like Lenin. What a break for beeb graphics gimpery. Is there a snap GE poll trigger number though?

YouGov / Times voting intention
CON 42%(+1)
LAB 39%(-4)
LDEM 7%(nc)

Bob Mack relationships have been tense for since Russia invaded Ukraine. Prestwick is being used as an airbridge to reinforce Nato Troops from US to Estonia and other friendly Baltic States, Hercs and other Transport planes are there often. there were 8 kc135 tankers supporting b1/b2 deployments on one day last week before the latest incident took to the airwaves. The Yanks have even put F35’s into England in the last year. To be fair its not needed as Puin is squeaking in his pants because UK put 800 troops into Estonia. probably what panicked him into trying to wipeout South East England with Nerve Gas ???

Brilliant cartoon Chris.

Wonder how the Marchs are going in Little Belfast, N. Lanarkshire this morning….?

Re speculation that there may be a GE in the offing – I was looking at the roundup of the newspapers on BBC website this a.m and the front page of the The Daily Torygraph shows T. May cackhandedly trying to hold a baby ( looks all wrong and not at all natural!).

My first thought was, oh-oh, there must be a GE coming soon.

The UK position is clear and unambiguous in that all the evidence we have points in no uncertain terms to Vladimir Putin and Russian involvement…we think…and the reason we know what we think is clear and unambiguous…we believe

The British nation must stand ready to defend ourselves against attacks perceived or otherwise by nations intent on destabilising our democracy which is the bedrock on which we base British rule, this is the time for a unity of purpose to send a clear message to those who would destroy our British values and break our resolve

So with this in mind we must inform all our citizens of the lies we are prepared to perpetrate on the people of our precious union to stop that bitch Sturgeon from removing up to one third of the UKs income by fucking off and dumping England who are the legitimate rulers of everything and ruining Englands Brexit

Dammit I couldn’t keep it up….don’t press send..NO!.. no!.. NO!..Stop typing..stop it..

Firstly, great toon, Chris! So much fodder for your next book, which I will of course purchase immediately.

@ Heed

Don’t you hate it when you’re right? As we knew, the polls would start to move for May. For months, the difference was 1-2 points.

The rent a crowd walkabout in Salisbury, with May collecting bouquets, and doing fistbumps (boak) will also help, she looked really happy, as 3 victims lay in hospital.

Damn, it’s snowing now. Russkies again.

Relations with Russia are tense. Countries like Poland and Lithuania on their Russian border, all have carefully developed civilian evacuation plans, right down to leaving work and school instantly, keep home evacuation supply packs, food, water, clothes, car always topped up full of fuel etc.

And then in piles Strong and Stable Teresa and her vast tory army of beeb gimps, right in the middle of the Brexit rolling catastrophe, as the tories rise in the polls.

Re Meg Merrilees @ 12.07

I saw that picture of Theresa May with a 6 day old baby. The baby seemed only to be wearing a cotton baby grow with no hat.

Meanwhile Theresa May was wearing what looks like a fleecy anorak over a padded jacket with a scarf. They both appear to be outside.

It may have been warmer down south but the during this chilly spring, it doesn’t look a good image of caring from the PM.

@Clootie says: 17 March, 2018 at 8:59 am:

“The BBC is merely the child of Pathe News and other propaganda tools.”

Nah! It is the other way round. The original BBC was a group of Wireless Manufacturers including Marconi.

“Wireless”, communication was then all Amateur, (Ham broadcasting). They wanted to sell Wireless sets and as their only customers were other hams the market was very small. So this group of Wireless manufacturers opened a Ham Wireless station with a ham call sign of, “2LO”. It was actually the second ham broadcaster, the first being 2MT.

2MT was the first British radio station to make regular entertainment broadcasts, and the world’s first regular wireless broadcast for entertainment. It began transmissions on 14 February 1922 from an ex-Army hut next to the Marconi laboratories at Writtle, near Chelmsford in Essex.

The LO bit in 2LO stands for London. 2LO broadcast news and music to London but 2LO only lasted a few years when The BBC was established by Royal Charter as, “The British Broadcasting Corporation”.

The Charter defined the BBC’s objectives, powers and obligations and is mainly concerned with broad issues of policy, while the Director-General and senior staff are responsible for detailed fulfilment of that policy.

So there you go – Westminster quickly realised the propaganda value of the new Wireless Broadcasting and so, “The British Broadcasting Corporation was the World’s very first State owned propaganda wireless broadcaster and has remained so ever since the day that Westminster took it over from the Hams.

The myth that the licence holders fund the BBC is part of the propaganda for the licence fees began as a licence to transmit and receive ham wireless signals. The transmitters were legally forced to broadcast for a limited time and then had to listen for other hams to transmit in reply before returning to transmission.

The receive only licence originally allowed the holder to receive all ham radio signals and the fees have always gone to the Treasury. The BBC, from day one, was funded by a grant from the Westminster Government and the government also issues the transmission licences to the broadcasters and those licence fees includes those of both RT and Al Jazeera.

The BBC has always been a Westminster owned and Westminster funded propaganda tool and the listeners/viewers do not fund it but instead pay Westminster for the permission to listen and view the output of all, not just the BBC, transmissions.

Neatly done Chris. 🙂

Blair,

would you give a potential murderer the alleged weapon so the prints can be wiped clean despite the claim that they are innocent. If I hear correctly samples will be taken to the laboratory in the Hague and some other UN labs.
For what it is worth I think the ex kgb types, political pyscophants, oligarths and crime lords are likely to be the same people.

Conspiracy theories are great but can muddy the waters from some essential truths.
Boris Johnston is a fud, Davidson cannie drive a tank across the Russian plains and May sat on the previous murder investigations as Home Secretary. Oh and another week avoiding brexit

@schrodingers cat

Pretty much and yes I’d say that’s fair comment to your post on the subject yesterday.

Just catching up. 🙂

A convenient, opportune and timely bear ! ?

I am open minded to what has happened.

Those rushing and pushing others to put two and two together are the same people who wanted war in Iraq and to bomb Syria.

The very belated appearance of guys in nuclear protective clothing with press cameras present was painting the picture the government wanted the population to swallow. Requesting people in Salisbury wash clothes a week after the event was intended to reinforce this position. Not providing Russia with evidence of the substance used just looks dodgy.

Conversely, if it evidenced it is Russia behind this attack then expelling 23 diplomats is a waste of time and does not meet the gravity of the crime, all ties should be cut and oligarchs plus their money sent back to Russia.

There is a whiff about this that if it is proven to be fabrication, will damage the uk beyond belief.

Act in haste, repent at leisure, jury is out and the stakes are high!

P.S. as for the defence secretary’s comments, “Russia should go away and shut up”, we can all rest easy in our beds with a guy like this defending us.

Heedy Peffers and Co.

The two bob “Rent-A-Post” mob are filling our pages once again.

I just bet Heedy is dying to post a BritNat link on here, but can’t, because him and his gang of Trolls have been rumbled.

I’ve been following the Russia thing fairly attentively, but not via the tabloids.

Today, I’ve just learned the cop involved is DETECTIVE sargeant Nick Bailey. I knew him to be Sergeant Nick Bailey, because the Detective part is rarely used.

He is out of critical condition, announced yesterday per NHS, as Boris played sodjers in a war bunker, whilst denouncing Putin.

as have you.

Hamish100

Re Corbyn, I think he has shown himself to be the unelectable buffoon that he is this week.

I think Sturgeon has played it well. MPs like Douglas Chapman are not helping her though, acting like a zoomer on Twitter

I. No-one with any knowledge would begin ‘mouth to mouth’ with someone obviously foaming spittle as that is a no-no.

2. Any Russian tycoon in England will be shitting bricks at any talk of being sent back to Russia…they are no friends of either Russia or it’s people.

Current article in the Guardian about Cambridge Analytica and it’s mining of Facebook as a political tool

link to archive.is

Useful to take note ahead of indyref2.

@Iain mhor
Don’t forget the poet Mikhail Lermontov who was proud of his Scottish family connexions.
Also the imperial architect Charles Cameron.
The foundation of first Latin Catholic church and school in Russia proper was secured by Gordon.
Our links with Russia are stronger than those of England. Unfortunately, Scots do often tend, for political reasons, to be filed under ‘English’. About time Scots started to explore and care about international links. Provincialized Scotland is Unionist Scotland.

@Indy2

enough. i dont know if you are a britnat supporter in disguise, indeed, i couldnt care less. but your posts only consist of calling other posters trolls which while not technically trolling, is definitely spamming up the threads.

what is worse than trolling is being boring and if being tedious was your only failing that could be forgiven. but yesterday you started to threaten other posters with physical violence and have overstepped the line.

to that end, I am calling on the rev to ban you from this site,

fyi, i have been posting with heedtracker and dadsarmy for years on various social media sites and while we dont always agree with each other, their post are always worth reading. Your posts only ever fill a well needed gap.

schrodingers cat

I never threatened anybody ya dickheed. I was repeating what that idiot Heedy said.

So are you ending Free Speech on Wings???

You are another one of Heedy’s Trolls.

What you and Heedy and Peffers and all the rest of your gang don’t like is the truth coming out about you lot being paid Trolls.

So will you ask the Rev to also block Rock and Sensible Dave???

I doubt it because they are just names in your twisted wee world that you all live in.

So cat,,you can fuck right off.

TD.

Thank you for that, however from what I can gather the nerve agent used is unidentifiable. There are four nations who’ve not ratified the CWC, one in particular stands out as having the capabilities to produce and deploy such a deadly agent.

Need I say that, that particular nations has form in removing people on foreign soil. It also has a very strong backing within the British establishment.

indy2 said, I am a regular at Indy Rallies,,Unlike yourself.

If you ever come out of the shadows I will gladly “knock your block off” if you really insist on it.

Ya Unionist Troll

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unacceptable

Off Topic. The New York Times looks at ‘Britain’s’ NHS and it’s impact on the life of a 62 year old male Brexiteer in England.

The man went to Calais for his knee surgery. 🙁

“…..He asked that his surgeon not be told that he had voted for Brexit — just yet. “I’m happy to tell him when he’s finished carving me up, but certainly not beforehand,” he whispered. “I do have my second knee.”……”

link to tinyurl.com

Yes they’re still alive indy2.

At least they could be. Google, “are the Salisbury poison victims still alive” and you a get a hundred million google hits as hysterical as, well you really.

link to independent.co.uk

@Capella says: 17 March, 2018 at 1:18 pm:

“The spygate narrative is falling apart under scrutiny.”

It really never would have gained any traction in the first place if it were not for the Westminster Establishment’s control of the MSM and the SMSM in particular. I’ve posted the facts many times on Wings and did so again only this morning.

The facts are hidden in the very best place to hide facts – in the background in plain view. There they meld in with the background and get glossed over by their target audiences.

The absolute masters of this art of hiding things in plain view are not the great illusionists like David Blaine, Penn and Teller, Jerry Sadowitz or, the greatest of them all, Harry Houdini.

The absolute all-time masters of this art are The Westminster Establishment and their long term propagandists, The BBC. The South Britain Establishment, in one form or another, have been at this mental prestidigitation game from around at least 54BC until the present day

Since the first influence of Roman Britain there has been a ruling elite based in or around Londinium and Roman records can be shown to be politically motivated as, depending upon their author’s political connections, the reports they sent back to Rome promoted their mentor’s for political promotion back in Rome.

The first great illusionists were the clerics and here too we can see political bias is evident especially among the Christian church clerics. For example the Venerable Bede’s history can be shown as out of touch when he wrote of events centuries after the events.

St. Bede (c. 672-735), known as the Venerable Bede, was an English monk, scholar, and theologian. His works were the crowning cultural achievement in England in the 8th century, “the age of Bede.”:-

link to biography.yourdictionary.com

Note that the English undercover agent, Daniel Defoe was operating in Edinburgh and influencing events. Defoe, (born Daniel Foe), was an English trader, writer, journalist, political pamphleteer and employed as a spy by the Westminster Spy Master, Sir Robert Harley.

Westminster are past masters of the art of deception and propaganda. When the early wireless amateur, (Hams Radio), manufacturers wanted to expand from kitchen table built equipment to commercial sales there wasn’t any existing market other than for early, Crystal Sets, and to create a market some early makers, including Marconi, set-up ham wireless stations to broadcast news and entertainment.

The First of these was 2MT in England followed by 2LO in London. Now Westminster was already selling Ham wireless licences to give the holders government permission to transmit and receive wireless signals from and to any sources. These had the condition written in that the holder could transmit for a limited time and then had to switch to listen mode for calls from other hams and this condition was applied to 2MT & 2LO.

Then Westminster quickly saw the potential for government propaganda and gave those early, would be, Wireless Set manufacturers A Royal Charter as, “The British Broadcasting Corporation”, and charged them with the task of selling Government Licences to only receive Wireless communications from any source. Thing is the money the BBC collected wet straight to the Treasury who made an agreed annual grant to the BBC.

So from day one the BBC has been a government owned and funded propaganda tool and its first job for Westminster was to brainwash the listeners that they, the listeners, funded the BBC. It was all there out in the open but the Great British Public were conned, from the start, that they, and not Westminster, paid for the BBC.

Yet it was obvious that with the small power of the 2LO transmitter the early audience base of licence holders was so small it would hardly have covered the cost of tea in the BBC canteen.

So there you are – it has always been a government propaganda tool hidden from the public in full public view Harry Houdini & David Blaine, eat your hearts out.

Skin of the teeth stuff against Italy. Don’t know if the old nerves could take that again anytime soon.

*PHEW*

@Valerie says: 17 March, 2018 at 2:33 pm:

“It’s incredibly tedious when a new troll joins.”

Whatever makes you think they are new Trolls, Valerie?

They all say the same daft claptrap. They all pick the same Wingers as their victims and they all use nick names instead of their own names. So Yes, such as Macart. is using a nickname but most Wingers know who he is.

My guess is that these guys are probably all the same one, or perhaps two, unionist supporting numptie. Best to stop answering them after they either out themselves or are outed by other Wingers.

Mind you it wont stop the idiots posting, and really we do not want to stop them, for if they are here on Wings they are not bothering others less able to identify them as unionists.

@Robert Peffers

Lord Reith talking about interference by the Government way back at the beginning in 1926,

link to tinyurl.com

Churchill being the man wanting to control BBC.

Heedy STILL posting direct links to BritNat media rags.

After Mr Stoker told you yesterday to cut it out.

You just can’t help yourself Heedy.

You are a BritNat Troll 100%.

And this will no doubt be followed up by support from your fellow Trolls.

Stop posting direct links to english newspapers Heedy, it makes our fight for Independence all the harder.

And I will be watching closely to see which one of your Trolls is first to tell the Rev to ban the Rock or Sensible Dave.

I think I will be waiting for some time.

You just can’t help yourself Heedy.

You are a BritNat Troll 100%.

Sorry indy2. Its just a bit disorientating out here in the Brexit zone.

If it OK with you indy2, can I cut n paste American newspapers please?

link to nytimes.com

On the one hand, BBC says USA is 110% behind Strong and Stable Teresa and the BBC’s ongoing battles to start WW3, indy2.

“In an interview on Monday, Secretary of State Rex. W. Tillerson, expressed astonishment at the use in a public space of a substance like the nerve agent. “It’s almost beyond comprehension that a state, an organized state, would do something like that,” he said. “A nonstate actor, I could understand. A state actor I cannot understand why anyone would take such an action.

Yay for Rex! explained beeb gimps

But then, next day, Orange Hitler fires our Rex! Via twitter too.

So who really knows what “our greatest ally” is up to these days.

Just think indy2, ex US Foreign Secretary Rex Tillerson, ex CEO of Exxon, Exxon almost as big a polluting monstrosity as BP, is too much of a pussy, even for Orange Hitler, greatest ally of teamGB.

Strange days indy2, strange days in the world of tory beeb gimp propaganda.

Orange Hitler must be UK’s greatest ally indy2. BBC keeps saying that over and over, Orange Hitler and Strong and Stable Teresa, together, in the fallout shelters.

@Scot Finlayson says: 17 March, 2018 at 3:15 pm:

“Lord Reith talking about interference by the Government way back at the beginning in 1926.

link to tinyurl.com

And there is the whole point of the matter in that article, right at the end.

“Churchill being the man wanting to control BBC.But there were compromises. Reith argued afterwards that the Conservative, Labour and trade union perspectives in the crisis had been reported even-handedly, but the Labour Party and the TUC did not forgive the BBC for refusing airtime to their representatives – including Opposition leader Ramsay MacDonald.”

So there is the real truth of that early BBC being biased claim.

The BBC, while claiming to have been, “even handed”, were actually doing then exactly as they do now with the SNP/SG.

In both their reporting and in on-air interviews or discussions, refusing access to any air time to other than their paymasters who were the Government of the day.

Obviously they had allowed the Government’s representatives access but not either the opposition Labour Party or Trade Union representatives of the workers or from the TUC.

“A lie told often enough becomes the truth.” Lenin.

“If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed” Hitler.

And this is good coming from this lot.

link to bbc.com

So let’s tell some lies.

@Indy2 says: 17 March, 2018 at 3:27 pm:

“And I will be watching closely to see which one of your Trolls is first to tell the Rev to ban the Rock or Sensible Dave.
I think I will be waiting for some time.”

The difference is that while everyone else is commenting directly upon matters of politics and Scottish independence, you, in any of your many sock puppet guises, are attempting to drag the whole thread into your idiotic claims that others are the trolls.

That, whichever one of the trolls you are today, is trolling. It sure as hell is not commenting about either politics or independence. Here is a cut & paste defining, “Trolling”.

An Internet troll is a member of an online social community who deliberately tries to disrupt, attack, offend or generally cause trouble within the community by posting certain comments, photos, videos, GIFs or some other form of online content.

I wouldn’t even dream of attempting to have the one and only moderator of Wings bar you or the other sock puppets but will endeavour to treat you as I treat the sock puppet, “Rock”. After you being outed as a troll I will endeavour to scroll past your input and not reply to references made to you by others that I continue to read and respond to – even when I do not agree with their views.

Debate is the life blood of Wings and unlike you, (in any of your guises), I have no objection, but encourage, disagreement and honest debate.

I wouldn’t even dream of attempting to have the one and only moderator of Wings bar you

I would, had enough of indy2’s pish

And a Happy St Patrick’s Day indeed .

Well done Ireland!

And well done skin of the teeth Scotland!

Well done Ireland. Deserving winners and champions.

Also? This.

link to twitter.com

That would be an epic example of – WHO KNEW? Still… better together, eh?

Here is a link to that RSE ‘seminar’ coming up on the 26th in Edinburgh, about referendums.

Hope it is ok to link and it works. By the way, if you register it will ask for your ‘organisation/job title’ obligatory info. Nothing indicates that anyone is barred from attending, ie, Joe public. So, just put in that wee box, J.Public!

link to rse.org.uk

BritNat takes on Britain and its empire would have you believe that invading and annexing other peoples’ countries was an act of altruism. BritState needs to be pointedly reminded that it too has history motivated by greed, racism, double-dealing, exploitation, financial corruption and ethnic exceptionalism. By comparison ‘Holy Russia’ is a neophyte.
I’d rather have a Russian for a friend than a devious, two-timing Brit….with the Russians what you see is what you get.
Besides anything that kicks the arrogant anglo-saxons in the tender parts is fine by me.
Aim well Vladimir!

Ian

Mind yer ain fuckin business

Well done Ireland. Worthy champions.

The Tweet at Brian Cox (Prof) and his response is comedy gold.

Calling indy2…calling indy2….

You normally love responding on here, so why are you ignoring MY question ??

Let me remind you.

Could you please link to a single comment YOU have made on wings, which was on topic ?

Me? Cynical? Never!

link to archive.is

Every day we hear yet another threat from Brexit.

Turns out putting lead in petrol was a much much worse idea than we ever thought. Banning it relies on EU law, but ….

“Some industries and rightwing politicians have long campaigned against it, demanding much more evidence “

link to archive.is

mike cassidy says:
17 March, 2018 at 7:24 pm

link to archive.is

‘amid concerns she is leading the party to utter distruction’

Sums the Tories up – so concerned about their party – but dont seem too concerned about the actual country or their constituents as we hurtle towards a chaotic Brexit and economic disaster. No idea why people vote for these arseholes.

O/T.

Is this missing flight MH370?

link to archive.is