Wings Over Scotland

On so many levels this is perfect. I especially like the wooden May, as it is exactly how she comes across.

Well said Lorna 😀

I’ve often wondered how our SNP politicians can remain so calm in the face of the stuff that comes out of unionist politicians, especially the sound bites and mantras that get repeated ad nauseam. Every time Theresa May appears on my telly, I am reduced to swearing, I just can’t help it.

Morning.

He he, nice one Lorna.

Masquerading May and her internal dialogue.

Maybe we should prepare for emergency GE’s every 2 years now.

SNAP!

nice one Chris

Theresa May in Aberdeen today, another prepared speech to another herded audience … Hope the seagulls get lucky

Oops wrong cartoonist well done Lorna, mair power tae your elbow

In fact.. Gonna edit my last comment:

Maybe England and Wales should prepare for emergency GE’s every 2 years now.

Thistle be the last GE ‘snapper’ for Scotland.

We’ve got our own business to be taking care of.

Crackin’ toon.

But, but, but…. Ruth Harrison is claiming in the Independent that Theresa May is more in touch with the people of Scotland than Nicola Sturgeon. Bwahahaha!

No chance of Ruth snapping. Sit down! That’s not what I meant. I meant she doesn’t snap like a pencil, she just squidges herself into a new face and off she goes again like a bit of marzipan made with bitter almonds.

Ruth couldn’t have taken a more revealing photo than posing like a gormless oaf (again) in a disability vehicle while her party TWOC’s the vehicles of the disabled. That’s just tasteless trolling by anybody’s standard, but with the added nasty streak of a thoughtless Tory. Has she no shame? Was the woman born without a shred of self awareness??? Answers on a postcard to the Right Honourable…

Can you even imagine Nicola Sturgeon doing that? Or sitting on a buffalo? No, I can’t either. Too much class. Just like I can’t imagine Ruth Davidson ever standing up for Scotland. Too much of an embarrassment for the Right Honourable Imbecile.

Roll on the General Election. Hopefully after that the BBC can have their Tory sock puppet back and we’ll never hear another lying trolloping word from Gauleiter Davidson again.

Good Toon Lorna…….. May is an intellectual pigmy compared to Nicola and she is brittle …… Nice one

Once again the BBC website can not provide a timely newspaper review for Scotland although the “British” front pages have been available since before midnight yesterday. Still no sign of any at 9:15.

Andrew Tickell (Lallands Peat Worrier) did an excellent newspaper review on GMS this morning. Unusual for them to invite him to comment. Unfortunately, most of GMS was taken up by Donald Trump.

Here’s The National front page in the meantime:
link to twitter.com

I don’t like the allegory of violence against individuals.

It just isnae Nicola’s style she is much too cool a customer for that..

Nicola Sturgeon has made a massive tactical error with this general election. She has decided not to make independence the sole issue and put it in the manifesto. She prefers instead to ‘play it safe’ and is quite rightly, recognised, especially amongst her strongest supporters as weak. Compared to T. May she is just not up to it. The media and the Tories are now mocking her and it will be relentless. Even Wings is having a dig.
Whatever the outcome for the SNP, if its 20, 30 or 40 seats, what does it matter? They will look ever more ridiculous sitting on those green benches, asking their irrelevent stupid, pompous questions as they keep trying to convince nobody that they are standing up for Scotland. Being a part of the Westminster club makes the SNP the SUP.

John Young – I feel your anger but remember people in Scotland, and around the world, have been fed British bullshit for hundreds of years. It’s difficult to ditch all your beliefs in a few years. It took me until my 40s. I’m in my 70s now so let’s get on with job. I want to see an independent Scotland away from the clowns at Westminster before I pop off. This must be the best time and i’d even favour a declaration of independence – after all they have broken the Treaty of Union many times and will continue to do so unless we get out!

What’s with Nicola’s five o’clock shadow and big hairy shovel like hands?

Are you a Yoon Laura 🙂

Sorry this is not a good portrayal of NS – the inferred violence is not what the snp are about though heaven knows if you read their history and the way they have been treated by WM it is amazing.

Labour have done everything with their dirty tricks to stop indy and now the conservatives will again play every dirty trick in the book and there are too many to count including the BBC, MSM and many of their MP’s and especially RD who has no moral compass at all. She is quite prepared to mislead the SP and anyone else she comes into contact with. What about these leaflets being pushed with no candidate name on them and talking about GE but which election is covering the costs. More tory election fraud being openly done under our noses.

Sorry, like some others I don’t like this portrayal of Nicola. This is simply not her style.

No one is out to break May, her own party will do that for her in their own good time.

All we want is oor ain wee Country, free of intereferance.

I find it an eye opener that one of the so called ‘gentler sex’ can produce such a hard hitting and on the money cartoon.
Sisters are doing it for themselves.
I declared ‘no more Mr and Mrs Nice Guy’ following the Brexit vote and the emergence of the Darling Duds of May, Johnson, Fox, and Davis (check out Davis’ ‘Fuck Off, Scotland’ response to Mike Russell)as the Hard Brexiteers.
Great graphic comment, Lorna. That’ll teach Cairns for swanning off during these critical times, when Scotland is in crisis. Who does he think he is? Kezia Dugdale?
Only joking, Mrs Chris. I know that he relies on you as his PPS to read this.
On an aside, but relevant.
I caught up on Any Questions from Blantyre on BBCi player.
Professor WATP Two Jobs Adam Tomkins filled the Tory seat.
He really is a boneheaded insensitive ultra fascist, isn’t he?
4 men, and one woman, the excellent Jeane Freeman, discussing the Rape Clause. No sign of Liz Smith, or former check out girl, the Blue Tory ‘commoner’, Annie Wells, Tory shadow spokesperson for Welfare Reform
(Destruction), putting their heads above the parapet, and giving a woman’s opinion on the two child/Rape Clause savage cuts to Child Tax Credits.
Instead we get a bloated chancer, pocketing two full time wages for two part time jobs from the public purse, spewing vicious malicious Arch Right Blue Tory fascist social engineering dogma.
In the coming weeks I hope that Adam WATP is never off our tellies, fills reams of newsprint in the Unionist Dead Tree Scrolls, and floods our airwaves.
I used to think him a bone headed idiot. After Any Questions of BBC R4, I have had that rather jaundiced opinion confirmed.
I can’t get enough of him now.

So that May is bringing her odd frame up to Aberdeen eh.TF it’s not doon here in Ayshire or I wid huv tae miss the game the day-as i wid be right in aboot(verbally) her way a big stick.

As for that pug dog face Davidson these two are becoming more hated than “Thatcher” if that’s possible ever!

Ruth Davidson ….An utter chancer who has no idea of the damage she is doing, any photo opportunity will do her posing on disabled vehicle whilst real disabled people are having their only means of transport taken away. Look at me … Look at me Ruth, no problem to her, is this by best side ? have you got a tank ? a Buffalo ? what-ever I’m up for it .. Yeah I’m Look at me Ruth.

I thought the style looked odd, darker, and with a crazy balloon! I hope Sturgeon – with voter support – can make the difference – the Tories are out to alter society for decades to come. It’s not too late to resist and protect!

Your weekend reading:

Auld enemies in battle: link to wp.me
Car makers on fire: link to wp.me

Hmmm, rather ugly allegory.

I preferred Stu’s effort. At least it was funny.

Don’t recognise this First Minister, must be some other FM

Theresa May and the secret location

Canvassing is something politicians do when they want your vote, so they go out into the constituencies and meet people to persuade them to lend them their vote for whatever policies the particular candidate proffers

In the case of Mrs PM May there’s been a new development of that process
Even though the Tories, who Mrs May purports to represent (I have other views on what she represents) claim she is more popular in Scotland than Nicola Sturgeon she has decided along with Rape Clause Ruth to meet the public secretly thereby foregoing the usual standard practice of meeting folk who might not agree with her or might be undecided or who might just be downright couldn’t care less folk

The BBC are apparently OK with this as it means the throngs of ardent Tory supporters won’t get in the way of their huge team of reporter (yes singular) at this secret location of the inordinately popular Theresa May
And so popular is she that all the banners and placards are brought to that secret location in order to avoid the swarms of Tory supporters carrying these weighty objects to worship the object of their affection

I wonder if the BBC think some of us haven’t noticed this might mean that perhaps Theresa May is not as popular as the BBC and the Tories claim she is, or do the great powers that be in England and the BBC really think Scotland is full of DONKS!

@Capella says: 29 April, 2017 at 8:15 am:

“Good summing up Lorna. The brittle Mrs May is visiting today – somewhere secret, talking to a hand-picked audience.”

It emphasis the great gulf between the two leaders. Can anyone visualise Mrs May walking down a High Street of an English town, being greeted by passers by with , “Hello Theresa and getting a selfie taken by the passer by?

No?

Me neither.

In Scotland all the population, except perhaps a very small handful of the most bigoted of the Yoons, regard the leader of the Scottish Government as one of us.

Not as a representative of some rich, elite and privileged group born and educated to rule over us.

Took me a while to appreciate the cartoon when you are used to monochrome fine drawings of Chris,

i think Lorna is alluding to `dollgate` where Nicola was savaged by the scum of Scottish media for breaking her wee sisters doll,

like all good political cartoonist it should generate debate,

well done Lorna.

Has everybody seen the front page page today’s “Scottish” Daily Mail.

We are into the realms of hysteric insanity with this. I think they know their spin and distortion is not working as they though it would.

@manandboy says: 29 April, 2017 at 8:23 am:

“To be honest, I much prefer Chris.
The depiction of Nicola here is both untypical and very unflatte”

Perhaps so, manandboy, but perhaps you have not noted that over the past few weeks Nicola has indeed ramped up her defense mode where previously she was being criticised by some Wingers of not hitting back hard enough.

It any case you cannot accuse Nicola of going on the attack for the very good reason she is not the one instigating the attack. Nicola is just defending herself, our government and the our SNP party.

Note that I do not claim it is, “Her”, government or her party. It isn’t and Nicola would be the first one to say so.

Not so the leaders of the unionist branch offices in Scotland or the unionist party leaders at Westminster.

The mind-set of politics in the Kingdom of England is both legally and factually quite different.

The Yoons see the Establishment as their elite masters while most of we Scots regard our royals and elected political persons as our servants.

It is that much misunderstood Scottish attitude that goes, “Och” Him! Ah kent his faither”.

It is not applied simply to derogate someone who has achieved something, (good or bad), but meant to bring that person back to the reality that they are probably only placed in a privileged position of trust by the public.

That position of trust can vanish in the blink of an eye it they attempt to get above themselves. Yet in England the HOL is full and overflowing with those the voters have rejected while the SNP do not accept membership of that house of rejected political figures.

Good cartoon. Next time Lorna could show Nicola ripping up a bbc tax demand.

Richard MacKinnon 9.52am. UNIONIST TROLL .

Lies and abuse underpinned by malicious intent.
Straight from the 10 Downing St school of criminal government.

Just like as the song says, the devil has all the good music so Yes has all the good cartoonists.

The National is now keeping two on the books and now we have two here. An embarrassment of riches.

At first i thought the same about this cartoon but now i see that the artist Lorna has used Nicola`s image to portrait the feeling from the entire yes movement.

Which lets be honest is pretty damn angry just now,nice one Lorna.

As for you Richard MacKinnon we already have a mandate passed through the Scottish parliament we do not need another,but then i would not expect a brainless chump like you to understand since a tory mandate is just lies to get morons to vote for them and then after you do they tear it up and do what the hell they like.

Nicola weak lol do not make me laugh the only reason you have May is because we put her there after conning the English into voting for brexit,we honestly thought you would get Boris but it turns out he does have a brain after all and figured out the next UK PM would be up shit creek without a paddle.

As the SNP already have a mandate for another referendum then they don’t need another one.

May has already said the issue is securing her majority in order to deliver her Brexit and given the possibility of her majority disappearing due to the outcome of electoral fraud investigations she has already some justification.

The SNP have already gone on record as stating their plan B, Scotland remaining part of the EU even though the UK has mainly withdrawn. It’s almost Dugdale’s plan A.

There’s no need for the SNP to go guns blazing in an election where those who might have a vote in an independence referendum will be disenfranchised. Especially not when it’s almost certain that they’d still win more than half the seats in Scotland but fewer than before and any share of the vote bellow 50% will be portrayed as a lack of support for independence.

Let the UK wide parties categorically and unambiguously put in their own manifestos their opposition to Scottish independence. Let them portray a majority of seats in Westminster as somehow overusing the right to our self determination.

If the Conservative and Unionist Party want to play those games then they either make the necessary manifesto commitment at a UK level where there’s no way we can win or at the Scottish level, which might not be possible, where they know they’ll get tubbed.

There is no fucking need for the SNP to make this GE about independence and no way that the unionists can do so officially without providing the SNP an issue they can raise with the UN and other international bodies.

The SUP (Scottish Unionist Party) exists @Richard MacKinnon says at 9:52 am

It is the Coalition of C*nts that are BLiS, BCUPS and The Fib Dems.

Those who vote against anything positive for the Electorate of Scotland at Council, Holyrood and Westminster then scream SNP Baaaad.

If they had the balls to stand as a single SUP Party they’d get humped and they know it.

They all stand separately and lie through their teeth to try and split the vote from the less politically aware, aided and abetted by a compliant media.

Also 1 SUP Party would mean less places at the trough for them.

Forgot to ask you @Richard MacKinnon says at 9:52 am are Rock and sensibledave both off for the May Bank Holiday weekend??

The old 77th Barracks must be a lonely place this weekend.

Are you hoping for a wee moral boosting visit from your pin up girl, the Honorary Colonel of 32 Signals Regiment???

Anyway, I make that £13.70 in Better Together cash for that post.

Are you boys still getting a bonus for making ‘Cybernats completely lose it’?

Does Better together Blair have to declare your teams payments as electoral expenses now he is standing in the GE?

The Tory supporters must be very weak of limb

All the banners and placards are being brought in van

Wee souls cannae carry them to the secret venue

Are Chadwick and MacKinnon the new substitute Unionist trolls for the weel kent ones here?

A new team being blooded?

PS Great cartoon!

They (Chadwick and MacKinnon) probably are @David MacGille-Mhuire at 12:03 pm

They are to my mind the last dregs in the Unionist Barrel.

Think of the photos of the last days of WWII Germany, young kids and old guys being sent to take on the Russians in the ruins of Berlin.

That’s where the Unionists are now.

The old and the naive pushed on by the bloated Party Members who now have to get into the trenches, like Blair McDougal ‘cos no one else is left.

The 77th will be no different.

Tick, Tock.

Gaun yersel’ Jeane:

link to itisintruthnotforglory.wordpress.com

@ K1

link to youtube.com

If ah get hammered your for it! lol

@Richard MacKinnon says: 29 April, 2017 at 9:52 am:
“Nicola Sturgeon has made a massive tactical error with this general election. She has decided not to make independence the sole issue and put it in the manifesto.”

Oh! For heaven’s sake! Get a grip upon reality, will you?

You just said she decided not to make a General election into a referendum on holding a referendum that she has already had the Scottish Government at Holyrood agree to hold. Are you as thick as the Westminster Establishment party leaders?

I’ll spell it out for you and your unionist friends.

There will be an independence referendum, whither Westminster makes it a legally binding referendum or recognises it as advisory only. It has already been decided by a majority in the Holyrood Parliament that there will be a referendum.

Westminster may regard it as advisory but Holyrood can or can not decide to take it as mandatory.

“She prefers instead to ‘play it safe’ and is quite rightly, recognised, especially amongst her strongest supporters as weak.”

Absolute balderdash and with absolutely nothing whatsoever to substantiate your idiotic claims. The Scottish Parliament has voted, (by a margin on 69 to 59), to hold a referendum.and a numptie like you thinks that is somehow, “Weak”.

The facts are clear – there will be a referendum on Scottish independence as passed by the Holyrood Government.

“Compared to T. May she is just not up to it.”

Laughable in the extreme, Richard. Did you forget to add the proviso of, “In my bombastic opinion of course”?

“The media and the Tories are now mocking her and it will be relentless.”

Of that I have not the slightest doubt, but it will not make much difference as the majority of Scots these days are very aware that the BBC tells lies and a majority of Scots elected a majority of Scots MPs to Westminster, elected an SNP Scottish Government and will soon have the chance to sweep the unionist councillors out of our local authorities.

“Whatever the outcome for the SNP, if its 20, 30 or 40 seats, what does it matter?”

Utter Pish, Richard. It only matter which individual party has the most seats. You have just made the absolutely idiotic claim that the party winning most seats does not have a majority at Holyrood.

Strange then that the party with the most seats will form the next Scottish Government. If the several unionist parties want to be the next Scottish government then they have only one way of doing so. They will have to all agree to either all join one of their existing Westminster unionist parties or amalgamate into one new anti-Scottish party in Scotland.

As long as the SNP have more candidates elected than any other individual party the SNP will form the next Scottish Government. The losers can, as the always do, form an unofficial coalition of unionists to act against Scotland’s best interests but it only means the unionists have ganged up on the Scottish government to enforce Westminster rule upon Scots.

That seems to have decidedly acted against the Unionist Labour, Tory and LibDem parties since the SNP began to gain strength.

All three unionist parties have been losing members and voters over a considerable number of years. All evidence from opinion polls indicates that while the SNP and Green parties are gaining members the unionist party membership has unionist voters jumping ship from one unionist party to another in a crazy, futile, effort to tactically oppose independence.

“They will look ever more ridiculous sitting on those green benches, asking their irrelevent stupid, pompous questions as they keep trying to convince nobody that they are standing up for Scotland. Being a part of the Westminster club makes the SNP the SUP.”

In your, “irrelevent”, (sic), stupid, pompous, opinion, of Course, Richard.

The fact remains that a local council election has only one purpose – to elect local councillors.

A Scottish Government Election has only one purpose – to elect MSPs.

A General Election has only one Purpose – to elect MPs to Westminster.

And a referendum on independence can have two purposes. One is to seek the opinions of the people and the other is to give the people the right to decide if they want independence.

Now, Richard, here’s a fact – no one needs the permission of Westminster to hold an advisory referendum on independence and when they do, and here is the laughable bit, if it is only an advisory referendum(a decision that Westminster can force by NOT granting permission), then being only advisory, that leaves Holyrood legally able to take the publics advice or reject it and do what the SG decides.

Now am I alone in thinking Nicola may have cleverly set this up so as Theresa would NOT grant permission and thus the SG able to ignore a narrow advisory referendum decision by the voters to remain tied to Westminster?

Given the terrorist attacks on the SNP this past week, ignored in the media, and tory election fraud being ignored in the media, this cartoon goes some way to expressing the frustration that the tories are acting as if their UK is a dicatorship.

Is it a democracy, or is it a dictatorship. The media by and large, work for the tory government.
That suggests the UKGov are operating in a non democratic fashion.

The people must decide if they want a democracy on June 8th.

Scotland is a democracy. The yoons hate that, hence their actual real anger!
Tough.

Its is enraging, being reigned over by tories. Just got my postal ballot paper for Aberdeen’s council elections next week. Top of the list, on the ballot paper Conservative Party, right at the top. So it goes in at No.8, no question but if you’re not sure, you’re rushing, you have beeb gimps merciless vote Tory, strong stable gov propaganda pounding away at your psych…

It may be just alphabetical order, for ACC election but then why not random generate the list order of the STV vote list ballot paper?

Evening Express candidate statements. BY ADELE MERSON, 27 APR 2017 12:41

Name: Philip Bell

Party: Scottish Conservative and Unionist

Age: 59

Home: Cults

Job: Control and safety systems consultant, oil industry.

Previous political experience: Highly experienced armchair politician!

Key issue: Efficient use of council taxes.

Best quality: Use all available information to make decisions.

Worst quality: I don’t suffer fools!

Name: Nir Oren

Party: Scottish Green Party

Age: Not relevant

Home: Peterculter

Job: Academic in the department of computing science at the University of Aberdeen.

Previous political experience: Joined the Scottish Greens in 2014.

Key issue: Pedestrian bridge over the AWPR for walkers, cyclists and horseriders on the Deeside Way and encouraging the development of similar paths across the city to reduce car dependency and air pollution.

Best quality: Not relevant

Worst quality: Not relevant

etc.

They’ll be in charge of ACC debts of over £1.2bn and able to spend hundreds of millions.

Legerwood says:
29 April, 2017 at 11:16 am
Some comments about the portrayal of Ms Sturgeon in the cartoon.

Anyone ever heard of an attic? And portraits therein?

Therefore why criticise her via the cartoon portrayal if she very occasionally heads to the attic to vent her frustration?”

Is what you said Leger. If you do think The Picture of Dorian Grey, or rather his portrait hidden in the attic was there to vent his frustration, your in a minority.

Ofcourse, no one takes that book as a frustration venting metaphor Leger. But if you do, why not.

@ronnie anderson says: 29 April, 2017 at 10:05 am:

“You may have given rise to Angry Nicola meme . Lorna not a depiction of the FM “

You may have a little bit of truth there Ronnie, in that the cartoon depicts Nicola as angry but that is in truth as far as it goes. The truth is I have yet to see Nicola actually being angry.

She has indeed become somewhat more aggressive in her defence against the many attacks of actually angry and very aggressive, concerted, unionist attacks but she does so while controlled, cool and collected.

Which is why she can so effectively deflate their attacks. We see this as the cameras show the Yoons sitting down and yelling as Nicola makes her replies while their microphones are turned down.

This is what you are taught at debating societies and lawyers are trained to do and Nicola is a very competent trained lawyer.

If the cartoon has a fault it is in depicting Nicola as angry – tell me, ronnie, have you ever actually seen Nicola angry?

First of all Nicola never really instigates an attack upon anyone personally but she does put up an, usually very effective defence, when attacked by others.

However, she has indeed ramped up her defences when they attack her. Now, correct me if I am wrong, but have I not replied on many occasions when Wingers have expressed their views that the SNP should be getting more aggressive during TV, radio and press interviews?

Yet now when a cartoon depicts Nicola as, “angry”, the same ones calling for more aggression are up in arms.

First of all it is a cartoon, it isn’t real life.
Secondly I imagine it is far more difficult for the cartoonist to depict a person calmly and coolly knocking back an attacker than it is to show the aggression the defender of the attack is deliberately controlling.

I was always taught in debating societies that, anyone who lost their rag, had lost the debate.

Furthermore that to attack the person instead of their POV would also lose the debate. However, a cartoon is limited in the things it can depict.

I mean, how many times can Wile E. Coyote drop down the Grand Canyon and have the ledge he stood on crush him and still return to do the same again? Cartoon are not real life.

Just listening to my Slovene girlfriend on BBC r4 Any Questions. Its very odd listening to him desperately trying to shut down our fledgling democracy on the radio, let alone btl stinky old Graun. Horrible tory stuff.

Adam Tomkins MSP?Verified account @ProfTomkins Apr 27

Theresa May firmly on the side of most Scots; Nicola Sturgeon leads a declining minority

May won’t be meeting the riff raff here. She will probably be meeting the Aberdeenshire West and Kincardine vote riggers to arrange that the Tories unseat Stuart Donaldson SNP.

Like Moray – where they are targeting Angus Robertson’s seat, there is a handy Forces population which could supply many proxy votes.

In the 2016 Holyrood election, which unseated Dennis Robertson SNP and installed Alexander Burnett (of Leys) CON, an extra 40,000 CON voters came out of the woods.

Yoohoo AliesAlba, Jezereena, Adam. Oddest low tory point so far, my Slovene girlfriend rants at Scots gov for NOT mitigating against the horrors of his tory UK gov policies. Why are these creeps voted by anyone at all, either side of the border?

Adam Tomkins MSP Retweeted
Any Questions??Verified account @BBCAnyQuestions 29m29 minutes ago
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.@ProfTomkins A vote for the SNP is always a vote for independence. They’ll always use votes as a mandate for independence #bbcaq

Capella

The RAF English colonialists, but it won’t help them in the long run.

heedtracker

Unfortunately there are quite a lot of Tories, working class or other, who want a Tory Gov but demand the SG fix the effects of Tory policies.

Thomkins is politicking but these voters really believe that.

@Liz Rannoch @12:33

That was a brilliant wee film about the cartoonist Lorna Miller from Phantom Power. I’d never heard of Lorna before today, the Lithuanian Independence stuff was fascinating as I was unaware of that too and makes Lorna a champion in my book.

Great cartoon Lorna, sums up how many feel and I’d love to see the Tory party broken in Scotland. Not just broken but discarded completely by voters.

We deserve better than having May as our PM for the next 5 years.

@ Thepnr – I agree. The Phantom Power video about Lorna Miller was well worth a watch – so here’s the link again. Great work Lorna, keep on drawing lines.

Mistress of Line – 12 mins

link to youtube.com

Will done Sinky with your extensive reply to Richard MacKinnon. MacKinnon, good Scots name.

Regards the cartoon, I agree with the view that Nicola’s image is not intended as a portrait of her but to demonstrate what is/should be the determination of Scotland to rid herself of this corrupt Union.

Ruth Davidson revealed her true self at Holyrood in the Two Child debate, when in defence of her position she declared that benefit changes are needed to bring down the deficit. As cold as a marble slab.

Sorry, but I don’t like this cartoon..it’s poorly drawn, crude and wrongly shows NS in an angry violent mode. We don’t need this type of representation of our movement….particularly when scum like Damien Green talk about the the SNP in terms of ‘civil disorder’.

Jeanne Freeman’s clip tearing Tompkins twin a new arse demonstrates what I said on a previous thread about the SNP not using effective speakers on the media. Why is she not used on QT?

Despite some decrying more offensive strategies on media programmes, Jeanne’s performance shows how effective reasoned and informed argument works not soundbites such as Gethins attempted on QT and got slaughtered. My local branch leader told me at a meeting when I queried the serial weakness of SNP spokespeople that despite many requests to use material and lines of attack…many from ‘wings’ had gone ignored or rejected by the media unit…(based in London I believe?).

Surely this must be beefed up.We are told continually that the SNP complain and submit statements to the BBC etc.Well if these complaints are ignored why don’t the party make an issue out of it. I don’t recall even the Referendum being as bad for the one sided propaganda that we are being inflicted with at present. this accounts for the move away from the SNP by ‘waverers’..they repeat the same old mantras about ‘day jobs’ etc. that are pumped out at them daily by the Colonial propaganda units.

@The Dog Philosopher says: 29 April, 2017 at 10:58 am:

“@ John Young
Have you read McKinnon’s post closely enough? I spy Yoon.

Yeah! I did indeed smell Yoon. It was so bad I chased the wee dog out thinking she had done her business somewhere in the house.

My mistake, I had to open all the doors and windows and spray Room Freshener all over the place.

Jamie Ross is amazed at the venue where Theresa May is “meeting the people”. He says:

Incredibly this area is so remote broadcasters don’t think they’ll be able to show this event live. I didn’t know that was still a problem.

Yet they are only a couple of miles from the massive Durris radio mast. And just over the hill from the Edzell MOD listening station.

link to twitter.com

Crathes, eh?

I guess Balmoral was the only employer willing to force their employees to look like an interested supportive audience.

@ Boris on a Federal UK solution, quite impossible, a bit like Ruth Davidson & a Buffalo, it would never work kid!

@ cearc – there is also Alexander Burnett (of Leys) who is the big landowner in the area and the MSP who ousted Dennis Robertson in the Holyrood elections last year.

Here’s his wiki entry, swept of almost all content.
link to en.wikipedia.org

For more info on the Burnetts – including castles, see the website:
link to burnett.uk.com

I don’t think it’s a terrible thing if the Tories get ~10 seats in the GE: It gives the SNP something to aim at. The Tories claiming a ‘victory’ when they get a minority of votes and seats and some kind of mandate for denying the SNP a referendum and forcing Tory policies on Scotland puts into sharp focus the massive democratic deficit that we face.

The 3million EU citizens in the UK are highly skilled or in service jobs, if the EU were to need to remove them the UK would lose 3M highly skilled or service employees and the EU gain the same.

‘Ok it’s a cartoon not very flattering,’

Understatement of the century.

Someone actually took the time to depict and present our dear leader as the ‘bearded lady’ or some kind of woolly beast.

Those massive hairy hands scare the bejesus out of me.

Get it pulled Stuart.Now!

When is Crathie Come Home being televised or do we have to wait on the bootlegged version.

I note Gina Miller’s Best for Britain organisation is to target marginal constituencies and give support to candidates who oppose Tory hard Brexit. This includes a campaign of tactical voting.

It does look like some of those constituencies will be in Scotland and the organisation will be supporting SNP candidates.

Should be interesting. I considered giving to the crowdfunding, but won’t until it is confirmed that they will be carrying out anti-Tory campaigning in Scotland.

Mackinnon is a Yoon troll!

@ Robert Peffers I binned MacKinnon from Scot2.scot weeks ago, he’s also reported on Troll Watch.

So I will pose the question back to you Heedie…why don’t you?

Because I am too annoying and its getting me to shut up that’s the trick.

There are almost no opportunities for anyone SNP to get on any BBC politics thing anyway. Its as close to a tory SNP BBC black ball as you can get. We are now living through a dark age of tory media, led and coordinated by the BBC, attack propaganda.

Oleaginous John Nicolson maybe, but he’s clearly the most SNP London high tories can tolerate and only barely. Which is why he’s permitted on BBC politics shows, now owned by likes of the complete and utter Murdoch boot boy, Ligger Neil.

In summary, tory gimps like the Ligger have swamped BBC broadcasting with UKIPers, a complete and utter corruption of any decent democracy in any western democracy, with SNP ghosted.

So why not be a little more supportive of our elected reps that are, from time to time, given the chance to be on our relentless and hideous, anti democratic BBC.

That’s not a question Lochside.

Theresa May on Sky news just now in Aberdeen. Not one smiling face in the crowd.

My view is that there will be no indyref2 for the forseeable future. The Tories will have a massive majority in England and a modest revival in Scotland will give them the excuse they need (not that they need it) to simply refuse a referendum.

In a sense this will be the end of a chapter, but it will be the start of a new one: Scots will really see what it means to be ruled by diktat from Westminster by Tories. What it means to have say at all in the running of your country’s affairs. We have a problem in this country with ‘little Englanders’ who think a Tory government is a price worth paying for maintaining their ‘culture’. I think we will find more of them realising that being able to wave a union jack around at a football match really doesn’t amount to a lot at all. I speak as someone who comes from that background myself and realised what a lie it was.

I don’t know who is directing May’s election campaign but it is utterly baffling why they would think such blatantly obvious stage management would look convincing when for years we have laughed at tin pot dictators doing the same thing.

Are the Tories so complacent that they think it doesn’t matter or is May so useless in “live fire situations” that it is the lesser of two evils?

Jane Godely is quick out of the traps with Nicla on Theresa in Banchory. But I fear if you didn’t like this cartoon you probably won’t like Nicla’s rant:

link to youtube.com

@Proud Cybernat

Hehehe Nailed it.

That’s what I was saying Robert. Showed it on Sky news saying it was in Aberdeen. A crowd of about maybe 15 people around her. Usual rubbish “Strong and Stable” etc but you could see the people weren’t buying it – hence not one smiling face. May is deluded.

Quote from May.

Because when Scotland is flourishing, the rest of the United Kingdom is flourishing too.”

Does this mean we can now rebuke the msm that we could not go out on our own and that England will suffer when we have Independence

Proud Cybernat @ 4.19

Lost en route…

link to imgur.com

Aye, indeed Proud Cybernat. Bothy (sic) her and Ruth havin’ a wee chinwag over a dram o’ Bell’s Britch Whisky ‘afore they go’ up into the hills never to be seen again. We know how you love to ramble but beware the Grey Man of Ben Macdui, Theresa dear. Your Scotland region is a scary, scary place to get lost.

Well, I can dream, can’t I?

@velofello says: 29 April, 2017 at 2:21 pm:

“Will done Sinky with your extensive reply to Richard MacKinnon. MacKinnon, good Scots name.”

Aye! velofello, McKinnon is indeed a good Scottish name, but you could put lipstick on a pig and call if Ms McKinnon but it would still be a pig called Porky.
;-))

@ gus1940 – Jamie Ross on Stu’s twitter says they weren’t allowed to say where May’s rally was until now. The hall was booked by Burnett, for a “Children’s Party”. Someone has circulated the booking via twitter.

link to twitter.com

@ capella Am sayin nuthin aboot we Janey’s video , if ah did it wid get back tae her an ah dont want ah Glesga Kiss next time we meet. Pure deed mental she is lol.

There’s nothing queerer than folk and nothing like change to stir hostility. Look, the First Minister isn’t really a Jedi, though it doesn’t take a training in the ‘ways’ to spot the guff of stale urine, Mr. MacKinnon.

There is also a time and place for political correctness and I don’t think you’ll find it here and now. 🙂

What makes this bizarre Wolfshanze event doubly weird is Theresa’s last visit to Scotland, remember when she refused the hospitality of Scottish Government buildings offered as venues and chose to meet Nicola in a hotel? And then too, slipping out the back door when it was over?

Category A1 weird.

Just found this. Wonder what to make of it? Any veiws?

link to independent.co.uk

Shocking that no-one questioned the credibility of someone claiming the run up to the 2014 referendum was more violent and acrimonious than that in the lead to the Brexit one.

Planting the idea that preventing us having a second one is for our own good perhaps?

In previous elections it’s been said that the Conservatives problem was that their support was spread to evenly when compared to other parties on the same level of support. Perhaps this time it’s significantly higher in some areas at the expense of others. At the same time Labour and the Lib Dems might not be competing against each other in all constituencies so even if the Torries were poling in the 40s it might not be enough.

The obvious irony might be if after the dust settles the Conservative majority depends on a combination of Scottish seats and some where the investigation into fraud leads to the MP being barred and thrown in jail.

Point of Order.

The SNP have not asked Westminster for permission to hold a referendum. They need no such permission.

What the have asked for is the transfer of power to Holyrood to unilaterally change the constitution of the United Kingdom should the answer be Yes to independence.

In most circumstances such a transfer of power might be a mere formality. However we all know that in the case of the Conservative Government of the moment they might very well be tempted to ignore even an overwhelming referendum result despite insisting on proceeding with Brexit.

An S30 transfer might be the preferred route of any Holyrood government and it’s sensible to at least go through the formalities of asking. However it’s by no means necessary for a referendum to be held. Nor should it be essential for a positive result being implemented. Without one there’s every justification for asking for international observers which might be something Wesmister would rather avoid.

Dr Jim – i’m really worried about you.

What seeds are you eating for breakfast? There is a very good mixture available from most pet shops- ‘Coalition of chaos’ millet spray

Have you got a piece of cuttlefish to replace any lost minerals- you can buy that online from Harrison’s Tank emporium.

I’m hoping these suggestions might help feel better soon, if not I suggest you roost on a strong and stable perch and hide your head under your ” Wings”.

Got my leaflet from tRuthless and Steven Kerr today – through the post. It contained one of those inaccurate graphs. So, I got my scale-rule out and worked out the correct representations and redrew the graph.
( SNP 47%, Con 28%, Lab 14% and Lib Dems 4%)

Then I wrote across the heading in permanent marker, accusing them of telling lies and committing fraud (by having an inaccurate graph) and sent it back to them in their free post envelope . I also asked them to remove my address from their database.

Think I’m beginning to crack up too.