Well done. Keep the pressure on. Keep asking the questions – this could not be more important.
Where are the adults in Scotland though? Why aren’t the Scots literally on the streets demanding that this horrible mess is cleared up properly? The whole country is demeaned by the current tawdry farce.
If wrongdoing at the top of the SNP is limited to Peter Murrell’s embezzlement of member funds, this will be confirmed by a properly constituted and independent inquiry. Those making political capital from the current chaos will be shown to be wrong, and will have to wind their necks in.
If wrongdoing is not limited to Murrell then all of those complicit – whether in an active sense or by turning a blind eye – will need to be removed from public office and positions of responsibility.
The answer surely is not endless speculation, conspiracy theories, selective leaks and tribal point-scoring. The answer is sunlight. Establish an inquiry chaired by a senior judge from outside Scotland, supported by forensic accountants and independent counsel, with full powers to compel documents and witness testimony. Examine the fundraising, the governance, the handling of party finances, the decision-making processes and the actions of all relevant individuals. Conduct the exercise transparently and publish the findings in full.
Most importantly, the inquiry must be independent not only in fact but in appearance. Given the unusual constitutional arrangements in Scotland, and the extent to which public confidence has already been damaged, it is not enough for people to be told to trust existing institutions. The process must be designed so that a reasonable observer can have confidence in its conclusions regardless of whether those conclusions are ultimately favourable or unfavourable to the SNP.
The question is not whether the SNP should be protected, nor whether it should be punished. The question is whether Scotland is prepared to establish the truth and accept wherever that truth leads. If the party and its leadership are largely innocent, they deserve to be exonerated. If they are not, they deserve to be held accountable. Either outcome would be preferable to the corrosive limbo in which Scotland currently finds itself.
What makes the current situation particularly depressing is that Scotland has traditionally prided itself on the strength of its institutions, its distinct legal system, its intellectual seriousness and its commitment to the rule of law. For centuries Scotland has punched above its weight in science, philosophy, engineering, medicine, economics and public life. It is a nation whose influence has often far exceeded its size. Yet all of that ultimately rests upon public confidence that institutions are worthy of trust and that no individual, party or movement is above scrutiny. Allow uncertainty, opacity and perceived favouritism to fester for long enough and that reputation begins to erode.
At the moment nobody wins. Public confidence continues to drain away, institutions appear compromised, rumours fill the vacuum left by uncertainty, and Scotland’s reputation suffers further damage. A mature democracy should be capable of doing better than this.
Very good interview from Connor and credit to The Sun for it too. You’ve got a great way with words, Stu – the Swinney in a burning house analogy etc. Also like the backdrop of the bookshelves to make Sturgeon green with envy.
Funny thing is, if the SNP had been honest at the beginning and said they needed money to repay the Weir loan, then i think a lot of supporters would still have given them the funds, and in consequence the Murrell embezzlement might never have been discovered after your revelations about the missing “ringfenced” money.
All any decent people want is our politicians of all parties to be held accountable, be honest and admit mistakes. The SNP/ Scot Gov fail on all counts.
Pieces like this one in The Sun are very important. It is disgraceful that most papers seem to have taken this extraordinary deck by the police lying down.
I got a four figure sum returned on behalf of my wife and I for donations made in 2017 and 2019; but not before I had threatened to take my complaint to Police Scotland. This threat seemed to motivate them to act with remarkable efficiency!
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Northcode on In pursuit of clarity: “An intelligent response, Spade. You make several good points. I think we are yet to witness the SNP’s final, cataclysmic,…” Jun 7, 12:30
David Blake on The Massive Face Of Truth: “Pieces like this one in The Sun are very important. It is disgraceful that most papers seem to have taken…” Jun 7, 12:02
Northcode on In pursuit of clarity: “Aye, Jay, I’ve read Childe’s “What Happened in History”, a couple of decades ago at least. My take on it,…” Jun 7, 11:54
Northcode on In pursuit of clarity: ““Salvo/Liberate fundraiser which also has a case to answer for embezzlement…” Ah, the old Tu Quoque logical fallacy of “you…” Jun 7, 11:50
Martin on The Massive Face Of Truth: “Very good interview from Connor and credit to The Sun for it too. You’ve got a great way with words,…” Jun 7, 11:50
Ronald Bennett on The Massive Face Of Truth: “Hi Stuart, how did you gain access to the Murrell’s house to conduct your interview with ‘The Sun’?” Jun 7, 11:36
Francis on The Massive Face Of Truth: “Well done. Keep the pressure on. Keep asking the questions – this could not be more important. Where are the…” Jun 7, 11:35
Andy Wiltshire on The Massive Face Of Truth: “Anything back from the policing and prosecutorial branches of the SNP yet?” Jun 7, 11:20
sam on In pursuit of clarity: “What evidence have you that the UN has rejected Scotland’s case?” Jun 7, 11:19
Spade on In pursuit of clarity: “Colonialism takes many forms. The first colony of the colonising country is always its own people. What we are essentially…” Jun 7, 11:15
Jay on In pursuit of clarity: “Northcode: your comment somehow reminds me of a book (read in part) by V. Gordon Childe, ‘What Happened in History’,…” Jun 7, 11:00
I.B McGinty on In pursuit of clarity: “Excellent work Stu. These people would get away with murder if it wasn’t for people like you holding them to…” Jun 7, 10:48
Aidan on In pursuit of clarity: “Interesting to note that some of those here today promoted the Salvo/Liberate fundraiser which also has a case to answer…” Jun 7, 10:24
Captain Caveman on In pursuit of clarity: “Well, I should imagine “D’oh!!!” is a likely response on the part of the recipients of these correspondence. 😀 Delicious…” Jun 7, 10:18
Northcode on In pursuit of clarity: “Since folk in this place insist on chuntering on and on about how fucking terrible things are in Scotland I…” Jun 7, 09:44
Cynicus on In pursuit of clarity: ““The Rev’s take got there first” ========= WRONG Stu backed a different horse: “have been advised”. it was the first…” Jun 7, 09:38
Xaracen on The Lord Of The Rings: “Colony; Government whose powers are defined exclusively by a foreign nation.” Jun 7, 09:06
Cynicus on In pursuit of clarity: “Ponsonby and Massie: Interesting podcast. Besides references to Rev Stu and Mr Clerkin, note Ponsonby comments on first Sturgeon top…” Jun 7, 09:04
Northcode on In pursuit of clarity: “SHOCK AND HORROR!! It turns out PC MacPlod isn’t there to protect us Scots from criminals efter aw… MacPlod actually…” Jun 7, 08:43
diabloandco on In pursuit of clarity: “And another thank you from me. Making into a mainstream paper is excellent,even though it is the express.” Jun 7, 08:32
wally jumblatt on In pursuit of clarity: “Swinney seems to have quite some difficulties in seeing right from wrong. Not difficult Jonny-boy. He doesnt have a vision,…” Jun 7, 08:22
twathater on In pursuit of clarity: ““The real scandal in all this is that everyone in Scotland seen this happening before our eyes for the last…” Jun 7, 03:52
Dick Wall on In pursuit of clarity: “Interested in the Judicial Review bit. Can you elaborate please. Police Aye COPFS naw. Also you are right to suggest…” Jun 7, 02:20
David on The Aims Of Justice: “In case no one else has suggested this, on the assumption that the polis and the Crown Office don’t want…” Jun 7, 00:18
gm on In pursuit of clarity: “Murrell singing like a canary would be perfection on earth. If only.” Jun 6, 23:46
Hatey McHateface on The Interesting Words Round: “It’s quite a jump from the SNP splurging the ring-fenced Indy Ref fund on themselves to it becoming a rallying…” Jun 6, 22:52
I. Despair on In pursuit of clarity: “Sorry if this has been noticed and queried already but if so, I missed it. ACC Houston’s statement: “…the Operation…” Jun 6, 22:38
James Barr Gardner on The Interesting Words Round: “It would not surprise me if the Brit State spend more money and time infiltrating and fucking up anything that…” Jun 6, 22:06
Anything back from the policing and prosecutorial branches of the SNP yet?
Well done. Keep the pressure on. Keep asking the questions – this could not be more important.
Where are the adults in Scotland though? Why aren’t the Scots literally on the streets demanding that this horrible mess is cleared up properly? The whole country is demeaned by the current tawdry farce.
If wrongdoing at the top of the SNP is limited to Peter Murrell’s embezzlement of member funds, this will be confirmed by a properly constituted and independent inquiry. Those making political capital from the current chaos will be shown to be wrong, and will have to wind their necks in.
If wrongdoing is not limited to Murrell then all of those complicit – whether in an active sense or by turning a blind eye – will need to be removed from public office and positions of responsibility.
The answer surely is not endless speculation, conspiracy theories, selective leaks and tribal point-scoring. The answer is sunlight. Establish an inquiry chaired by a senior judge from outside Scotland, supported by forensic accountants and independent counsel, with full powers to compel documents and witness testimony. Examine the fundraising, the governance, the handling of party finances, the decision-making processes and the actions of all relevant individuals. Conduct the exercise transparently and publish the findings in full.
Most importantly, the inquiry must be independent not only in fact but in appearance. Given the unusual constitutional arrangements in Scotland, and the extent to which public confidence has already been damaged, it is not enough for people to be told to trust existing institutions. The process must be designed so that a reasonable observer can have confidence in its conclusions regardless of whether those conclusions are ultimately favourable or unfavourable to the SNP.
The question is not whether the SNP should be protected, nor whether it should be punished. The question is whether Scotland is prepared to establish the truth and accept wherever that truth leads. If the party and its leadership are largely innocent, they deserve to be exonerated. If they are not, they deserve to be held accountable. Either outcome would be preferable to the corrosive limbo in which Scotland currently finds itself.
What makes the current situation particularly depressing is that Scotland has traditionally prided itself on the strength of its institutions, its distinct legal system, its intellectual seriousness and its commitment to the rule of law. For centuries Scotland has punched above its weight in science, philosophy, engineering, medicine, economics and public life. It is a nation whose influence has often far exceeded its size. Yet all of that ultimately rests upon public confidence that institutions are worthy of trust and that no individual, party or movement is above scrutiny. Allow uncertainty, opacity and perceived favouritism to fester for long enough and that reputation begins to erode.
At the moment nobody wins. Public confidence continues to drain away, institutions appear compromised, rumours fill the vacuum left by uncertainty, and Scotland’s reputation suffers further damage. A mature democracy should be capable of doing better than this.
Hi Stuart, how did you gain access to the Murrell’s house to conduct your interview with ‘The Sun’?
KICK ‘EM IN THE PRONOUNS, STU
Very good interview from Connor and credit to The Sun for it too. You’ve got a great way with words, Stu – the Swinney in a burning house analogy etc. Also like the backdrop of the bookshelves to make Sturgeon green with envy.
Funny thing is, if the SNP had been honest at the beginning and said they needed money to repay the Weir loan, then i think a lot of supporters would still have given them the funds, and in consequence the Murrell embezzlement might never have been discovered after your revelations about the missing “ringfenced” money.
All any decent people want is our politicians of all parties to be held accountable, be honest and admit mistakes. The SNP/ Scot Gov fail on all counts.
Pieces like this one in The Sun are very important. It is disgraceful that most papers seem to have taken this extraordinary deck by the police lying down.
I got a four figure sum returned on behalf of my wife and I for donations made in 2017 and 2019; but not before I had threatened to take my complaint to Police Scotland. This threat seemed to motivate them to act with remarkable efficiency!