Strike One
This is absolutely extraordinary.
In the light of revelations exposed and detailed by Wings that the original contained several misleadingly-edited or completely made-up citations from previous cases, the Employment Tribunal today issued a corrected version of its judgment in the Sandie Peggie case. And much like NHS Fife’s repeatedly-edited previous statement on the tribunal, we suspect it’ll only be the first of many.
Firstly, the new quote – which is at least real, replacing a completely fabricated one in the previous version – is laughably unrelated to what it ostensibly proves. “Beth” Upton had no complaint of discrimination or harassment before the tribunal, and absolutely nobody was ever claiming that women’s rights to single-sex spaces removed his right not to be harassed or discriminated against. But as a man, he never had any right not to be discriminated against as a woman.
The quote the judge selected has nothing whatsoever to do with any “hierarchy of protected characteristics”, which was what the initial fake quote (below) claimed.
(And we note the embarrassing typo of “CDG” for “CGD”, which is only one of a whole raft in the judgment, hasn’t been fixed.)
But what’s astonishing is that the new version of the judgment has done nothing about the other dodgy quotes. It still contains this totally invented one from Lee v Ashers, also refuting an argument about hierarchies that nobody had made:
Those words simply do not appear anywhere in that judgment.
And the new version still includes the selectively-edited quote grossly misrepresenting the judgment in For Women Scotland.
But the original version of that line is very different, saying “trans women” rather than “women”, and going on to make an extremely significant point about men without GRCs (like Upton) not being entitled to access female spaces, which the tribunal judge didn’t just edit out but also ignored in terms of his actual decision.
And more and more such questionable edits are being discovered.
It’s barely believable, even in the mobile shambles that is modern Scotland, that the tribunal has issued a “corrected” version with these two shocking errors still present, and we’re agog for further developments.
This judgement seems to be the kind of farcical result you get if you mis use an AI
It seems to me to be far too accurate in its misinterpretations and unsound quotes to be purely AI or even accidental, to the point that these might actually have skewed the tribunal away from a fair ruling for Sandie Peggie.
Upton was found to a more credible witness – based on what? His accent, his university degree, the fact that he is a doctor, the so-called ‘contemporaneous jottings’ and texts which an expert doubted? On his stated belief that he is a “biological’ woman treating patients in A&E? When he goes to the loo and sees – and holds – his appendage, does that not lend the lie to his perceptions?
Sandie Peggie is an ordinary working-class nurse and a woman. All female ‘oppression’, for want of a better word, is based squarely on female biological sex. Everything, from female genital mutilation, to rape and sexual assault, to pornographic images, to domestic abuse, to child marriages in some cultures, to being forced into restrictive clothing and face coverings that have no origin in religious texts, but are mainly cultural, to the hundreds of years of having to fight for every crumb of advancement.
This is precisely why the men in frocks wanted to use the term, ‘gender’ instead and have it replace ‘sex’ as the defining characteristic, but when you claim to be an actual, biological woman, you are going way beyond rational belief into the realms of delusion and fantasy. Yet, this is what Judge Kemp thought was rational and believable and worthy of being upheld against the uppity woman who did not know her place (well, she did: the female nurses’ changing rooms sans l’homme) rather than being fair-minded and rational about reality and delusion. I’d bet that all these men in frocks know that they are not women and have used this trope to bolster their misogyny and the other thing that drives them and force women to fight every step of the way.
Anyone ever seen a trans woman who didn’t stick out like a sore thumb?
Me neither
It could be the bias built into the AI Chatbot used.
I’ve played about with a few of these AI ChatBots and if you ask simple things you get the typical fence sitting answer where it posts both sides of an argument and refuses to give a definite answer.
If you ask specific and more in-depth questions though, the bias I had mentioned isn’t as visible in output given by it.
This is truly an amazing piece of forensic dissection (by the Editor and a few others) of a piece of rampant, dishonest wokery involving deliberate misrepresentations both of fact and law
I don’t accept for a moment that this an inadvertent series of misadventures which could be cured under the ‘slip rule'(at least in England and Wales).
So where now ..?
Stellar investigative journalism Stu; never stop doing what you’re doing
Hear, hear. Stu’s journalistic rigour is exactly what is needed these days!
This and everyone else involved in uncovering what cannot be put down to idiocy.
Well said.
…brilliant news….the Peggie team are going ahead with an appeal….well done!
Challenging to believe that our legally qualified “Judges” are unable to discern what our forensically astute host points out so well.
Yet again WOS leads the way.
Boak! And it ain’t even the dry boak… what a mess.
This farce isn’t accidental, it can’t be, not after taking so long to write. Place feels less safe by the day, when is it my turn, when is it yours..?
Even just saying ‘2027’ or ‘2028’ fills me with dread now, and wtf are the Thirties going to look like, they’re just round the corner, will we be back in black and white again I wonder?
And with Fish-Face standing by in the wings we will soon all be “waiting for the worms…”
This is going to drag on to Correction 7 where the judge changes his name to Tiffany le Gal.
The new quote from the Forstater case contains a statement that should have immediately been challenged.
“This judgement does not mean that those with gender-critical beliefs can ‘misgender’ trans persons with impunity.”
It’s literally telling us that we have to play along, but what difference is there between participating in the rituals of a belief system and pretending to participate?
Rev, it would be very interesting to know what prompted this Certificate of [non] Correction. Was it your article, or the lawyers who tweeted, or the Times’s article?
Very gratifying to see you were credited in The Times. Perhaps they’ll invite you to do some opinion pieces!
The Tribunal’s “judgment” runs 312 pages and over 1250 numbered paragraphs.
Does anyone believe the “judge” actually wrote all this him/her/it/self?
Wow. Nailed it again, Rev.
It seemed before the amendment that the judge certainly appeared to be, according to his language usage, both during the tribunal and throughout the judgement, an activist for the ‘trans’ lobby, or, at the very least, on the side of Upton and his ilk, but, could it now be that someone in a more lowly position who helped him with the huge amount of work to be drawn together, could be responsible for this mish-mash of misquotes and factual error? Is the judiciary already compromised by the ‘trans’ lobby or is it AI? Or is it all a horrendous mistake that cost Sandie Peggie a fair ruling?
We all know that AI gets a lot wrong, but the weight of evidence would suggest that the errors here were deliberate and not just clerical errors. A BBC-on-Trump type of deliberate scam, perhaps, tampering with quotes and misinterpreting crucial legal statements? Sorry, but I would put absolutely nothing past this lot. Anyone who has seen them in action knows how unhinged they can be, and their early infiltration – a la Denton’s Document – of every public institution would suggest that the legal system is not safe from them either. I could be wrong and I’d happily hold up my hand if I am, but these are not the mistakes, on the face of it, of an experienced tribunal judge or a trained legal/clerical staff member or even AI.
It is simply too precise in its misinterpretations of existing law before the UKSC ruling and also the law as clarified by the UKSC ruling, as well as actual case evidence, to be a hit-or-miss error. It is also the language – TRA activist language – that suggests it was not accidental, but deliberate. If this turns out to be the case – although we will very likely never be told who did it – in keeping with the BBC farce on the Trump misuse of quotes, the law will not recover from it. Any residual trust will be gone, as the BBC has discovered.
The law of Scotland is not, however, the BBC, and the implications go far, far wider than tampering with news, right to the very heart of the justice system itself. This whole affair has been a mess from beginning to end, with tweets of a joke – admittedly, not a very savoury one, but totally irrelevant to her case and delivered by a witness claiming friendship, yet so obviously hostile to Sadie Peggie – having been used to undermine her evidence so that she was considered to be less credible than a doctor who believes he is a “biological woman” and is treating patients in A&E. No one believes that a man is a woman and vice versa. No one. Not Upton, not the Health Board and not the judge – no one in that tribunal. So, if politics is interfering in the law and in active cases, we are screwed.
Can judges be sacked for incompetence or crookery?
If so there might be wan or twa quakin’ in thair bench wigs the nicht.
Move along folks, move along… nothing to see here. It’s just another corrupt day in the life of a colony.
What I find hard to believe is all the folk who find this level of ‘incompetence’ (let’s be kind) hard to believe.
Is it ‘incompetence’ by imperial design, I wonder.
The arrogance of the ‘conqueror’ will always, always betray itself in acts of galaxy-sized stupidity.
Please Note: I’ve been busy posting away today trying to get as many comments in before those guys at WoS ban me for rudeness and the talking of shite. I have another 50 or so comments parked up on the runaway and ready to fly tonight.
It is long past time that a reputable university conferred honorary doctorate on our host here. The only question is should it be in journalism, gender studies, or law? No other source of legal gender journalism even comes close!
I’d second that. Alex Massie has written a glowing reference to the Rev, too, acknowledging his forensic analyses.
Don’t let them buy you off though, Rev.
Amazing and invaluable work by Rev. Stu. Acknowledgement in The Times is good but there have already been attacks against the Rev.
Recently heard the saying ‘friends may come and friends may go, but enemies accumulate. I should increase my tiny subvention. Will anyone in the commercial press start providing financial security for W o S, as acknowledgement of the ‘cutting edge’ work? The work done by Rev Stu should mean the end for several careers, the sooner the better, but that means enemies and remember what was done to Craig Murray (which should be righted).
Who, by name and Office, made the Appointments to the Judiciary? An old friend told me that most of the judiciary (lower) are marginal psychopaths and that it is not until the Court of Appeal that one can expect to find capable lawyers. Recently heard of one threatening to imprison jurors if they disagreed with him.
What most people don’t realise is that judges are not “selected” by some higher authority on their merits, they apply or respond to adverts.
In other words it’s usually unsuccessful practitioners ie those not earning enough or worried about their pensions who apply for the myriad of judicial posts created by the Scottish Government.
Generally,if you’re not making enough money in the law game which is “shooty in” as far as fee income is concerned it’s usually an indicator of your ability.
It’s also immensely beneficial if you happen to be “ one of us” ie your general view concurs with the Scottish Government & their objectives.
There are some honourable exceptions ie those seeking to serve the system but these are a rapidly diminishing band.
I speak as an experienced Scots lawyer.
This is staggering – the English Courts have recently handed down decisions excoriating advocates for quoting non-existent cases, usually ‘researched’ and made up from AI. To see a Judge advancing non-existent quotes and putting an unfair spin on selective quotes is incredible, especially in such a well-publicized case. He’s done his reputation so much harm and there are a few more Strikes to come.
As someone posted yesterday I believe the manipulative unseen hand of the Scum Nonce Party SG deviants and perverts has had an influence in this mish mash of lies , misquotes and deliberate obfuscation , this (spit) judge should be removed from any decision making group and this whole trial should be retried again with a sane intelligent person who can read and interpret EXACTLY what the SC decision meant when it said BIOLOGICAL
Twathater- you could not be more right. lets ensure that Sandie Peggie can take this all the way up to the supreme court if necessary.
I suspect the ramifications of this are only just beginning.
Apart from vast chunks clearly been constructed by AI there is a legal responsibility for Judges to actually read and validate the submission (often assembled by juniors). If they are not the findings can and will be struck down. And the judge potentially dismissed.
Apart from the fact that clearly in this case the Judge did not, the reliance on AI generated contribution with incorrect or misleading interpretations suggests that that the whole use of AI is entirely questionable. Which may open a whole can of worms re any case of where it has been used in recent times.
This may run and run….
Is this going to become a theme in all legal judgements now? Are we ushering in “1984”?
What happens when there is a swing to a new lunacy and then we have to correct it all over again (like when Winston Smith had to spend a whole week correcting newspapers after Oceania switched to being at war with Eastasia and not Eurasia)?
Insightful @veritas.
That makes sense to me . Incompetence seems to be the likely culprit and sympathy with the current government .
Some of the worst witnesses described as credible made me realise just how shallow this whole process was .
In the Soviet Union, judicial decisions used to be decided by telephone calls made to the judge. Is it likely that this judgement was written by some “higher power”?
Did anyone following the case feel that the presiding judge was intellectually capable of writing such a long conclusion and correctly handling all the case law, references, etc.?
It all seems to me a bit like when a student is trying to defend something they have not written, so they have no idea of what they have got wrong or right. I have heard that it might be AI, as some facts seem to have been completely pulled out of the air. But it seems a bit too malicious for that.
Interestingly, it is just the one person who writes absolutely everything in such judgements?
I think this one needs a detailed explanation from the judge
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Sadly I am old enough to remember when Scottish law was given a level of respect even from South of the wall. With continued cock ups like this that is no longer the case. The Keystone cops would be blushing with this level of incompetence but this is where we find ourselves. A big well done to our host for his work on this even if it makes depressing reading. I await the response of the troll collective .
Quite right – it used to be English hats off to the Scottish legal and educational systems. No more.
Let’s play Judges and Lawyers. Unsuitable for under fives.
Now we know why……
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Was the judge actually three chimps in a wig and gown bashing away on a typewriter?
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£400k spent on the KC by NHS Fife.
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Jackasses are going to jackass.
This sort of judgement is reminiscent of what happened in Queensland a few decades ago.
As it turned out the perverts had infiltrated the ranks of the judiciary, the higher ranks of the police force, and also what was expected to be the future Premier and his Attorney-General.
That time it was a paedophile ring, and what is happening in Scotland has a similar stench.
They need top dogs in place to keep a lid on things, so when you see this sort of result from a court you have to wonder if someone is pulling the strings, someone compromised maybe?
Poor poor judge keep. I’m reminded of something I read recently. The more eggs you put in your one basket… the more egg you get on your face.
The judge who made this judgement has zero integrity and credibility and must be sacked.
A good question
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Times
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I have no trust in the law
Oops!
Sorry, folks. I didn’t realise I’d written my last comment out loud.
It’s the voices you see – the voices in my head – they’re at their worst first thing in the morning.
Anyway, good morning everyone… I hope you all have a grand Friday day.
Hooray!
It looks like I didn’t write my last comment out loud after all!
Either that or it has been cast into the ether-darkness, to that place beyond the terrestrial sphere where it will scream its contents for eternity out into the silent void.
There wasn’t much to it anyway… just me shouting at the voices in my head to stop… STOP… STOP TALKING!
Let em talk- they will fade into the background when they realise you are not paying attention.
Regarding the fate of comment consigned to the silent void, as Theodor W. Adorno said about music that is written but never heard:
‘If time crystallizes around that music which has been heard, revealing its radiant quintessence, music which has not been heard falls into empty time like an impotent bullet’.
As a musician and composer, I can relate to that.
There is of course dispute about the translation from the German of this passage. Please translate this into Scots Northcode for an alternative perspective. I can supply the original German if required.
I like this comment of yours, Oh, Southern one.
Yes… the original German might be useful, and interesting, too.
Thanks, Southernbystander. I will translate to Scots forthwith.
Thanks NC. This is the original German:
‘Schießt um die gehörte Musik die Zeit zum strahlenden Kristall zusammen, so fällt die ungehörte in die leere Zeit gleich einer verderblichen Kugel.’
The translation I gave (from a learned blog post discussing the translation problem of Adorno’s otherworldly German prose) uses a bit of poetic licence changing the ‘pernicious ball (globe)’ (verderblichen Kugel) to ‘useless bullet’, that I do like however. This is a bit confusing though as verderblichen seems to mean ‘perishable’ too, which is closer to ‘useless’.
The Scottish Government and the Unions are in cahoots about this and have conspired with the Scottish Judicial system to subvert the Supreme Court ruling and think that we wont notice.
Drug companies are at the heart of this. Most Scottish union officials are walking around wearing ‘Save Trans Youth’ tee shirts. There must be a lot of brown envelopes being passed around.
Ironically those who believed in Scottish Independence are now forced to rely on the UK courts for justice and common sense. I wonder how that happened??
The SG are now using money that was earmarked to support the health of the good people of Fife to run a campaign on behalf of the gender bending drugs companies.
By ensuring that his now has to be appealed to the Supreme Court they are splashing out even more and costs could come in at over a million£. How many surgeons could that have paid for? Nurses? Operations? This is a Scottish National Scandal.
I was at the Vic A@E the night before the Christmas Eve encounter. (I was held overnight and discharged Christmas Eve morning.)
There was briefly a bloke in scrubs whom I noticed – in spite of the fact that I was there for an ocular problem.
Hair in a ponytail, mascara, eyeliner. He spoke briefly to the doctor who seemed to be in charge and then disappeared. Must have been a shift change.
Can’t be 100% certain it was Upton – his hair was quite dark rather than sandy coloured. I recall praying that I wouldn’t have to deal with him. Can tell you that he was unmistakeably a bloke.
I suppose it might just have been a lad who liked make-up, but it seems quite a coincidence.
Corrections to judgement?
First of all the right to private rights and private family life which has been amended or corrected is Scots law and is not a issue for the supreme Court to rule on down south or in any other area outside of Scotland,
It is wrote down in article XV111 as a law of Scotland.
It is what distinguishes the legal system in Scotland from that in the rest of Britain/ or anywhere else.
It cannot be altered, amended repealed or textual added to, deleted or partial omitted nor corrected by the parliament of the United kingdom or by judges as it is entrenched without breaching the treaty of Union.
On that legal basis it, only Scotland can make or pass a judgement on a law that is internal to Scotland,
But the Scottish judges are knobled- so that’s not going to be of any use!!
It also fails to relate any mention/wording of supreme judgements being capable of overruling it outside the subjects of Scotland, again because it is law of Scotland as set out in the treaty of union Article XV111 as a internal law of the Country of Scotland.
In specifically mentioning the nation of people that can use it for their evident utility.
As a internal law and article set out for use to a specific Country and nation of people mentioned in a specific Treaty it would not up to ECHR to become involved in or overruling and be the cause a break up of Great Britain by Breaching that Treaty.
So Article XV111 is a Internal reserved matter of law of Scotland only, should be tried and judged in Scotland only, and with the right to a full Scottish jury.
Is this outside the remit of our Justice Minister?
The NHS is a public Body and cannot overrule Private Rights of the subjects Scotland and neither can judges, Civil servants or Governments in and of Scotland,
The ECHR is also a public Body not based in Scotland, nor a Private individual that is a subject of Scotland.
It is a internal law on private rights for the evident utility of the subjects of Scotland, that the Treaty of union agreed too, , that could not be altered.
The Scottish governance are a public Body,
the Scottish judges are a public body,
the NHS in Scotland are a public bodies.
the Councils are public bodies
the civil servants are public bodies.
The BBC and media are public bodies.
You and I in Scotland are, as the subjects of Scotland are private individual bodies, not public bodies, due to the wording of article XV111,
Whereas the rest of Great Britain are British subjects of Britain and its Colonies after 1948.
As described in Hansard,
The treaty of Union Articles pre-date 1948, and Article XV111 is part of fundamental glue that holds the treaty of union together,
Associating the SNP with Scottish independence and the independence movement is now a popular anti-Scots unionist tactic.
There are only two reasons the SNP is ALLOWED by Scotland’s colonial overlord to be seen and heard to any great extent in public:
1 – The SNP is no longer considered a threat to the colonial status quo.
Indeed, it has been reduced to such levels of incompetence and ‘incompetence’ (wink wink) with the aid, perhaps, of Westminster’s colonising agents that it serves Westminster very well as a counter to Scottish independence.
The SNP’s gormless and witless and ‘desperate to be English’ leadership (half of them were born in England, anyway) present no obstacle at all to Westminster’s imperial ambitions for Scotland.
2 – The SNP is actively in league with Scotland’s colonial master and is used by Westminster as a tool to thwart Scottish independence.
Also, related to reason 1 above, the colonists might imagine that the majority of indigenous Scots still see the SNP as their vehicle to liberty.
That is no longer true, but they, the colonists, are slow-witted and don’t yet see that the indigenous Scots have deserted the SNP and seek another democratic ride having been abandoned by those they thought of as Scots loyal to their own people and not to those of a foreign power.
Associating the SNP with incompetence, criminality, Scotland, the Scots, and the independence movement is an anti-independence, anti-Scotland, anti-Scots tactic and any who attempt to deploy it are… well, unionists (colonialists if preferred… same thing), of course.
The SNP, once a champion for Scottish independence, is forever lost to the Scots as a political vehicle capable of delivering Scotland’s liberty from imperial oppression.
Any who support the SNP support it for reasons of selfish self-interest and are actively against Scottish independence (whether they know it or not) – I wouldn’t be surprised if there is a considerable percentage of anti-independence Inglis counted in the SNP’s membership now.
The SNP is dead to indigenous Scots… most of whom have twigged that it is now Westminster’s wee twistit creature that’s been telt to scamper across Scotland making life miserable for the Scots and only slapped down by its master when it gets ideas above its station.
The SNP is like some dead thing; a lifeless, limp and pathetic rag of a creature; its neck broken; its head flopping as it’s tossed repeatedly into the air; passed between Westminster, its pack of English ‘Scottish’ political parties, and the English MSM (there is no such thing as Scottish MSM) for their sporting pleasure.
The SNP is NOT for Scotland and the Scots… it is a pet of Westminster and any ‘Scot’ who still believes it will deliver Scottish independence is a member of the “Dumbest Cunts on Planet Earth Party”.
Hi Northcode,
Going back to spoiler alert, my reference to unconstructive comments was not directed at you but at your anally obsessed (among other things) ‘comment stalker’. Sorry my comment was not clear. Your stalker is such a nuisance that i rarely read the comments nowdays.
No problem, Jay.
Your comment was very clear.
I knew fine well that your comment wasn’t directed at me. I just thought I’d be a smart ass and make a ‘funny’ out of it. Regulars on here know how unfunny my attempts at being funny really are.
I know it’s sometimes difficult to wander this place, but there are some good commenters on here whose comments are worth reading.
I can only suggest that you attempt to scroll past those commenters who don’t interest you – not easy sometimes, I know.
“Anally obsessed” says Jay, following on in the footsteps of Northy.
As the other boy used to say, every accusation an admission.
Always good to witness the stalwarts of Scotland’s fight for freedom in “action” though.
Tae feart tae read the comments lest they encounter an opinion they can’t handle.
What makes you think Jay was talking about you? You aren’t mentioned at all.
You’re so vain I bet you think ALL comments are about you. Don’t you. Don’t you. Don’t you.
I was a big fan of Carly’s back in the day.
You don’t know what this means… yet. But your (likely excessively stained) Y-fronts will definitely be comin’ aff.
“Anally obsessed” … I think I might adopt that as my new term to describe the arseholes who wander aboot this place.
Good idea, Northy. I can see how finding something new to say has been taking its toll on you
James has the male genitalia franchise. And the late unlamented Rooby stamped her unique authority on cant.
I think once you’re regularly posting about shitters you’ll wonder why it ever took you so long to find your comfort zone.
“Good idea, Northy…”
Yes. I thought so, too.
Hey! Didn’t I just dismiss you from this place?
Begone, rascal – get those pants washed.
Hi Northy,
‘Colonizing agents’ Seriously?
It doesn’t matter how you dress it up Northy.
You just can’t get that hatred for the English speaking world out of your system.
Hi Marky,
Try not be a humungous bore on here today… oops, too late, Marky.
And I don’t hate the English speaking world… I don’t hate anyone – even you and your English speaking (as a first language) chums on here.
I do wish that those folk trying to kill off my people and steal my country would just go away, though
That really would be very civilised of them. Although from what Alf Baird and history tells us colonists generally aren’t all that civilised… we can only hope Scotland’s colonisers have evolved somewhat.
I am the bearer of good news, Northy:
No one is trying to kill you – or your imaginary Pictish countrymen of the Bronze Age off. You heard it here first 🙂
You may safely remove the Bacofoil cap and emerge from your wardrobe.
Bacofoil and wardrobes.
The enforced alien accoutrements of the coloniser, willingly adopted by no true Sovereign Scot.
A bit like the linked heat and smoke alarms that must sound every time Northy posts one of his lies on here and scorches his sorry ass. Such as that last zinger about not hating anybody.
Pants on fire, Northy. Again.
Thanks, Captain.
Your words of comfort and your kindness in sharing them will be remembered come the revolution… when us Picts invade England and force the Inglis to perform naked Morris dancing competitions for our viewing pleasure and entertainment.
You, however, may keep yer Y-fronts on during the proceedings (unlike some ither colonist poster oan here).
We’ll call the competitions the “The Pantless Games”… Morris dancing at its most extreme.
I might emerge from my wardrobe for an hour or two each day… to watch the games, but the bacofoil hat stays.
Puir auld Northy.
Doomed to be forever trying, and failing, to fathom out the alien, imposed values of the oppressive, murderous coloniser.
And thus entirely unaware that wardrobes only ever have keys on the outside.
You’ll be going nowhere, Northy.
I’m bored of you now… you are dismissed.
Go away, Pantless slave… get some sleep and prepare for tomorrow’s Extreme Morris Dancing games; there will be much naked prancing and flouncing to be done.
P.S. Don’t forget to leave your Y-fronts in the slave’s quarters – or even better… the laundry room.
Channeling your inner hatstand there, Northy.
Meh! Awesome Northy you made me laugh. Touche! 🙂
They can’t blame typos as the stupid judge took notes in longhand, causing everyone to slow down with their responses.
That was on top of the stenographer who would have recorded every word accurately.
The judge is an idiot but as with all these situation, the higher your position, the more protection you get.
He will be neither sacked nor disciplined
As Alex said, he believed in the system but not those who enforce it.
I paraphrase because I can’t remember the exact quote
A truly astonishing read (not in a good way). Just incredible.
What an utter shit show. Time to clear the stables.
The Scottish judges may be knobbled,
however due to the pre terms, conditions and articles, one of the major reasons for the Three estates of Scotland to offer England the Scottish monarchy ( not shared) was that the self proclaimed king of Scotland who had NOT taken the Scottish Oath, was meeting out injustices in Scotland.
However under those pre terms , England accepted the monarchy as their monarch of England then the treaty of union would never have came into being,
Having the ( Not )Scottish monarch become the monarch of England and monarch sitting as the parliament of Englands monarch, leaves Scottish judges with no crown above their heads in Scotland, but a English one,
The treaty of Union articles still insisted that the monarch was the monarch of England and the succession of that monarch would be the Hanoverian line as “settled” on the Crown in the parliament of England,
This can be read up on in the treaty of union conditions,
The Scottish judges sit under the Crown of England, not the Crown of Scotland when it comes legalities, to pass internal laws of Scotland and the judicial system, that then they perhaps would have to change where the crown rests and is settled.prior to a fair judgement being made anywhere in Scotland,
Its complicated situation and often a incompatable one, for the treaty of union to hold to the position of duel Constitutions and Crowns in Britain.
“The Scottish judges sit under the Crown of England, not the Crown of Scotland”
This appears as an inevitable reality in a colonial society and/or annexed dependency in which Ministers of State and colonial institutions also ser a furrin croun, i.e. the croun thay elites aw tak an oath tae.
Which gives rise to Fanon’s ‘two cultural and psychical realms’ in which fowk can ser twa maisters, thay luve ane an laith the ither.
‘canna’ ser twa maisters
Careful, Alf. It looks like AI slop is finding its way into your posts as well.
Has nobody questioned what a Doctor is doing in a Nurses area in the first place. Pretty sure the pecking order in the Medical profession ( like academics) have strict codes of conduct.
I remember reading that when a Doctor has a strike against them ( drunk on duty or whatever) they have their registration changed to give them a clean sheet. Allegedly Dr Upton has a few numbers after His name?
Dr Upton aired some of his medical beliefs during this tribunal that demonstrate that he is clearly not fit to practice medicine anywhere.
By insisting that a trans person must have medicine appropriate to the trans/identified sex and not the actual biological sex he will eventually kill a trans person. For that reason alone the BMA should have him removed.
Trans people are a real danger to themselves.
Aye, but a
trans woman(Oh fuck this pandering to the delusion) bloke with a degree of masochistic tendencies might really enjoy a vaginal smear test performed up his cock.