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Get Me Out Of Here, And Onto The Telly Again.

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Please.

Okay, we’re going to need some help on this, readers. We know the first one is Ross Kemp, the man who loves Scotland so much that he thinks Glasgow is the most dangerous place on Earth. But we’re not Heat magazine subscribers and the rest are proving a bit trickier to pin down. Can you give us a hand?

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JK Rowling’s let herself go a bit in the last fortnight.

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Tim Nice-But-Dim.

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Former Minor EastEnders Character, we’re all but positive. Could be Brookside. But we haven’t actually watched any soaps since 1993, so we could be wrong on that.

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Aww. Not a clue, but he seems lovely, like a nice grandpa.

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Honestly not the foggiest.

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Drawing a blank. But he seems to have stopped “LAUJHING” now.

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Wait, we know this one. Richard… Attenborough?

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We’re guessing someone who was a big star for Cardiff Lions United.

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Hinge & Bracket, of course.

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EEK! SOMEONE CALL OPERATION YEWTREE!*

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Stay where? In America with you and whatever accent you’ve got today?

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And there’s Blair McDougall.

Next week: the unfunnier one out of Hale and Pace. (Which is to say, both of them.)

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*Joke. We’re sure they’re NOT a paedo, whoever they are. NOT a paedo.

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    1. Craig Munro says:

      The fifth one is Ian Rush .. ex Liverpool and Wales footballer 🙁

    2. Steve Bowers says:

      I liked it when he drew the turnip in a kilt, was he trying to tell us something ?

    3. Bugger (the Panda) says:

      Is that all they have got.

      Pathetic in conception and content.

    4. iclare says:

      Is No.2 not that ”Who is she, who is she??” Nikki or something from BB season 548?

    5. Bugger (the Panda) says:

      I can’t believe it Richard somebody from Greenock?

      Where is Stanley Baxter?

      Is it him?

    6. Quentin Quale says:

      Surely if they are ‘resting’, waiting on tables would offer more in the self-respect stakes. Pitiful.

    7. Dinnatouch says:

      For “our” NHS???

      Is this yet another rebrand of Better Together?

    8. Is the person holding up the apple sign Tony Robinson (i.e. Baldrick in Blackadder)?

    9. handclapping says:

      I recognised Richard and Tony, two Labour lovies from the time I had a telly.

      Surely its your job to keep up with the media and its C list celebs? 🙂

    10. Is it we’ve laujed (lodged) together – Masonic or Orange. Just bad speller. Coz BTog is not good at basic literacy or numeracy?

    11. James D says:

      It’s Baldrick with a “cunning plan” – but he’s practically the only recognisable one.

    12. Barry says:

      No. 5 is Ian Rush, surely?
      No. 12 might be that plank out of ‘Love Actually’ who takes a load of placards to his best mate’s new wife?

      Not a scooby on the rest tho’

    13. RogueCoder says:

      The bloke who can’t spell “laughed” was a minor player in Doctor Who during Tennant’s tenure. The rest… not the foggiest.

      Why did they get z-list celebs to do this? Are they telling us that in the whole of the rUK, they couldn’t find any A-listers prepared to say something nice about the Scots?

    14. Bugger (the Panda) says:

      Like the Lions United, presumably the British and Irish Lions?

      So is it that he is asking the Irish to come back?

    15. mike says:

      I don’t like the joke. It is not funny. Why reduce yourself to that? Are you trying to level the playing field?

      In the pub with your mates, maybe. Online? In a News outlet? Tony Robinson wouldn’t be amused to put it mildly.

    16. Sneddon says:

      I think they’ve all been in the following; Eastenders, daytime TV of some sort and whatever celeb obsessed magazine seeks print fodder for the terminally bewildered. Nevertheless they’re unlikely to move anyone to vote NO. Can we imagine anyone saying “that woman off Eastenders , who? I dunno, the one caught giving her boyfriend a BJ in his car, she wants us to stay to together..that’s it settled I’m voting ‘NO'”
      Stay classy you guys over at “Better Tpgether No thanks”…..Tricia and whatshername ffs 🙂

    17. Seasick Dave says:

      “And the rocks met wi’ the sun”.

      WTF?

    18. wee folding bike says:

      Dame Hilda Bracket is no longer with us. Dr Evadne Hinge has a B&B in France. They often pushed the limits on TV and radio… they were even funnier live.

      Is that Dan Snow as the nice but dim?

    19. Nana Smith says:

      I recognise ‘I don’t believe it’ Meldrew. Funny thing is I don’t believe his “I do believe”

      Things must be bad in the entertainment business to stoop this low.

    20. Delia says:

      I like that the one who is laujing with us “together” has used that punctuation. It sort of feels like it makes more sense that way.

    21. Bob Sinclair says:

      As far as I can see there is only one person there who possibly has a vote, and I’m not too sure about that.

    22. jon esquierdo says:

      Are the ones we do not know out of a circus – perhaps the clowns?

    23. Michael says:

      Hilarious, they so can’t read the Scottish public it’s not true.

    24. tinyzeitgeist says:

      There is another video of this bunch over on Bella. In that one they all pontificate on how much they all love Scotland soooo much that we should just stay. I must admit that I had no plans to go anywhere on the 19th September.

    25. Michael says:

      Oh dear, hadn’t noticed the Burns misquote. Even better.

    26. abystander says:

      Average age of the persons shown above would be

      erm?

      Number of persons shown above who have pledged to live in Scotland in the event of a No vote would be

      2?

    27. Graham says:

      The guy holding the turnip (!)drawing is Tony Robinson, actor and New Labour arslicker. John Barrowman, for anyone who doesn’t know, is a professional poultice. These are clearly all people whose views and opinions, especially about Scottish independence, you would seek out and respect. Disappointing that Lulu and Susan Boyle was left out!

    28. wee folding bike says:

      Watched the video.

      I’m glad Freddie didn’t have to.

    29. Alicia Murray says:

      No 2 Fiona Phillips used to be ITV breakfast presenter No 3 Dan Snow son of Peter Snow election swingometer guy on BBC election show.

    30. Pin says:

      Aw not Tony Robinson! Och…

    31. Heather says:

      No 2 is Fiona Phillips, of GMTV. Ian Rush is unmistakeable as is Baldrick and Richard Wilson. Tim Nice But Dim, sure he’s from a gardening show. The black guy is an actor. I’m sure he was in the Bill at some point, but he’s been in loads of stuff. Good actor but not the point.

    32. Paul says:

      Two below Rush – David Harewood from Blood Diamond etc

    33. abystander says:

      Where’s the chappie from the Orange Lodge?

      Surely he has a greater public recognition score than some of the above?

    34. Seasick Dave says:

      If I do vote Naw, will they all chip in to pay my kids’ Uni fees?

      Just wondering.

    35. Ieuan Roberts says:

      “Aw, not a clue but he seems lovely” is probably a good comment on his knowledge of Scottish politics, it’s Ian Rush of Wales and Liverpool F.C. The “Lion” at Cardiff is Gareth Edwards, but nobody seems to have told him that Irish people play for the Lions without being part of the U.K., although “British and Irish Lions” should have given him a clue! Keep up the good work Rev. I just wish we had something similar in Wales.

    36. John H. says:

      I think the second one might be Fiona Phillips who used to be on morning tv.No.7 I think was in the series Homefront.

    37. Bugger (the Panda) says:

      abystander

      Mason Boyne?

    38. cyfw2014 says:

      Tony Robinson used to be on Labour’s National Executive Committee, so I presume he’s appearing in his capacity as an ordinary dad.

    39. John H. says:

      Sorry Heather.I didn’t see your post.

    40. Arthur Mountjoy says:

      Ross Kemp, Trinny & Susannah rent-a-mob….
      Watched the video and not one of them gives a valid reason or argument for the union other than…”aww it would be a shame if you left”….intellectual heavyweights….FFS!

      I notice Gareth Edwards in there playing the B&I Lions card, like Scott Hastings on QT last week – seemingly oblivious to the fact that some of the greatest ever Lions have actually been Irish…

    41. Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      “As far as I can see there is only one person there who possibly has a vote, and I’m not too sure about that.”

      The whole point of this particular campaign group is that it’s for people who don’t have a vote.

    42. HandandShrimp says:

      I have to say that I always thought Robinson wasn’t that keen on the Celtic nations. He is a Labour chap though.

      I didn’t recognise Wilson with the beard. Most of the rest I just plain didn’t recognise.

    43. handclapping says:

      NI stands for No Idea, Not Interested
      1 NI I’ll accept it is Ross Kemp on your say so
      2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 NI
      8 Richard Wilson, bit player in Labour PPBs
      9, 10 NI
      11 Tony Robinson, Labour lovie and the uninteresting fossil in an archaeology program
      12 NI
      13 pretty sure is not Bliar McD and stop pinching Greg’s jokes

    44. The Morgatron says:

      Breaking News – Jeffrey from Rainbow has just came out in favour of ” Better Together”

    45. crazycat says:

      Hinge and Bracket might be Trinny and Susannah.

      Since I don’t have a TV, I’ve never watched any of their stuff, but one of them (I can’t even remember which) used to be married to someone I was at school with.

    46. cynicalHighlander says:

      I’m going to get lathered here as the only daily soap I watch is Imperial Leather.

    47. donald anderson says:

      Andy Murray could double up as Marlon the chef in Emmerdale’s Woolpack.

    48. Dcanmore says:

      It’s like some weird game of Blankety Blank. Does anyone under the age of 35 know these people?

      Believe it or not most of these are either Labour or Tory Party activists/campaigners/donators.

    49. James123 says:

      “We’ve laughed together”, yeah the Poll Tax, Bedroom Tax, Tory governments, hilarious.

    50. Schiehallion! Schiehallion! says:

      ‘met with the sun’: a kind of family thing…?

      ‘my love is like a red, red face’

    51. TheGreatBaldo says:

      Ohh a quiz….

      1. Fiona something or other…did one of those wanky celeb charity shows for Comic Relief or something….

      2. Dan Snow…son of Swing o meter John who of course got commissioned by the BBC on entirely his own merits..

      3. Haven’t a clue….probably called Sally though.

      4. Ian ‘Italy was just like a foreign country’ Rush….sans his Scouser tache

      5. Nope

      6. Think he’s been in Casualty

      7. Dermot Morgan….nah Richard Wilson obviously

      8. Pretty certain that’s Emlyn Hughes old sparring partner on Question of Sport circa 1981 Gareth Edwards I think…scored thon famous try for the Barbarians anyway.

      9. Never known which one is which but that’s Trinny and Susannah or Susannah and Trinny.

      10. It’s anti establishment hero….Sir Tony Robinson

      11. Almost didnae recognise him without his ‘Jamesie’ on…all the way from Sweet Home Chicogo…John Barrowman

      12. Yep that’s Blair

    52. “We’re their best friend” They sure have a funny way of showing it!

    53. ForgotMaths says:

      That boat has sailed.

      Should really be aimed at the Mail and Express, and, indeed, the Britnats.

    54. Michael says:

      Is the second one the posh drunk wifey from Gogglebox?

    55. James123 says:

      “Like the Lions we are united”, which includes the independent Republic of Ireland. Doh!

    56. TheGreatBaldo says:

      Breaking News – Jeffrey from Rainbow has just came out..

      To be fair I sussed that out even as a 6 year old….;-)

    57. crazycat says:

      @ TheGreatBaldo

      2. Dan Snow is the son of Peter Snow, not Jon, I think.

      9. Glad I was right about that one, and also glad that you can’t remember which is which either!

    58. wee folding bike says:

      A different Queen song…

      We’ve Got Tae Break Free

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkicM-8sBHY&feature=share

    59. Craig MacKenzie says:

      Not so good Wings. Just been trying to get some “maybe’s” to check out the site for a good alternative to mainstream media incompetence / lies. This won’t help. Stick to what you are good at. Reasonable (on the edge) deconstruction of falsehoods. Much of this was disingenuous and there was a better way to present your argument.

    60. G H Graham says:

      I went to China a few years ago & I loved the people so much that I’m still gutted that we are not working on sharing a national government. Even if they do eat moths.

      The tea service is really good though. Very civilised. Highly ceremonial.

      Oh … who’s in the pictures?

      Dunno.

      Don’t care.

    61. Jamie Arriere says:

      Blondie No.1 is either Fiona Phillips or Heather Mills, I think. Looking at the karate hands, it’s probably the more bad-tempered of those two – sorry can’t help any further.

      Tim Nice-but-Dim is I think Dan Nice-but-ubiquitous, son of Peter Grumpy-but-Sniffy-about-Indy (no, sorry that was Jon Grumpy-but-Sniffy-about-Indy…so it must be Peter Nice-but-Ubiquitous…but he isn’t…ubiquitous that is(he’s nice enough))

      Blondies No.2 & 3 – nope, sorry

      The one under Richard Thingy is Gareth Edwards – glad to know you’re still alive mate.

      Oh, and Mr Yankwegian, it’s rocks “Melt” with the sun…

    62. Dcanmore says:

      Third one is uber-unionist and force-projection loving Dan ‘Battlefield’ Snow.

      “Alex Salmond has made nationalism sound progressive. but it’s not It’s an absolute curse and since it was unleashed in the world in the 1800s it has blighted the societies of everyone it’s touched. Dividing people into national groupings separate from other people is deeply uncivilised and has led to the worst wars in human history. So to create a new nation state is an anachronistic thing to do, though I’m a fan of devolution.”

      “History is all about myths For example, this year – when the future of Scotland is being decided – is the anniversary of Bannockburn. But that battle was about two medieval, French-speaking warlords going at one another in a way and at a time and environment which has limited relevance to us today. And the idea of an ethnically pure Scottish side and ethnically pure English side attacking one another is absurd.”

      … he doesn’t quite get it, does he.

      http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/dan-snow-the-tv-historian-on-scottish-nationalism-and-why-getting-drunk-must-be-planned-with-military-precision-9536364.html

    63. Dr Ew says:

      Oh, they LOVE us! Look! They just LOVE us! And they’re… celebrities (or something).

      Well, it’s nice to be loved. So won’t they still “heart” Scotland after we vote Yes?

      Or will they, as Bitter Together never tire of telling us, be so disdainful of their erstwhile countrymen and women that they’ll be baying for border posts, and turn away wee sick kilted Scottish bairns from their hospitals, and bar the doors of their embassies to Scottish hordes wandering the globe, and annexe Faslane to protect “their” nukes and world peace and stop Putin or ISIS or FIFA or whoever else is bogeyman of the week, and not let us use “their” pound, and veto us getting into the EU and NATO and Eurovision and the Champions League AND the Olympics, and throw union jacks at Andy Murray if he dares show his sorry pasty Celtic face on the hallowed lawns of Wimbledon ever again, and then laugh at us all us sad subsidy junkies while we’re writhing on the floor like Renton in Trainspotting and they’re all lighting cigars with fivers in the New Jerusalem that will be here any day now, probably along with the jam tomorrow.

      I don’t know who most of these sad sack so-called slebs are, but I know plenty of fantastic non-famous people in England, Wales and Northern Ireland and I don’t get the feeling their affection for us is so shallow. I think the vast majority will wish us well and take the opportunity of a seismic shift to liberate their own country. I think regardless of the political colour of future rUK governments they’ll be pragmatic and cordial and know which side their bread is buttered.

      And if I’m wrong? Well, at least we’ll know who our true friends are.

    64. Lesley-Anne says:

      Just a wee thought but surely we should all be referring to Tony Robinson as SIR Tony Robinson. Didn’t he get his knighthood announced some time ago or was there something in the ice cream I’ve just ate. 🙂

      Fiona Philips doesn’t surprise me at all. I’m sure she was the GMTV “hot news from Hollywood” living in Los Angeles for a while quite some time ago.

      Tim Nice but Dim is Dan Snow the great historian of the 21st Century… apparently.

      Hinge and Brackett are, I’m reliably informed Trinny and Susannah, whoever the hell they are!

      As someone else said I do NOT believe Richard whatisname and his “I Do Believe” garbage.

      On a more serious note, where can I get our Jeep Grand Cherokee stretched? We have run out of space on the Jeep’s windows for all our posters and we desperately need more SPACE! 😛

    65. Big Red Machine says:

      Mummy, why did you vote to stay in the Union back in 2014?

      Well because if I had voted for Independence darling, Scotland would have had no-one to laugh with.

    66. Fiona says:

      Hmmm…..I am with Dorothy Parker’s review of The House at Pooh Corner, on this vid.

    67. James123 says:

      If I had a friend who was stealing my money, leaving dangerous weapons lying around my house and hiding radioactive material under my floorboards then I wouldn’t necessarily consider them my best friend.

    68. Mrs Grimble says:

      I’m sure I recognise the grandpa with the scary eyes – he’s some sort of actor? But when I tried matching the picture on Google Images, I just got loads of photos of CEOs, blokes with scary eyes and Edward Snowden.

    69. donald anderson says:

      That’s what the National Trust in Scotland told me when the SNP gave up the Bannockburn Rally.

    70. Murray McCallum says:

      “As a Brit it was the pinnacle of my career to play for the Lions”, said Brian Brian O’Driscoll never.

    71. Andy-B says:

      Are these not the new Tory backbenchers David Cameron has shipped in, wait a minute they could be Nigel Farage’s new anti EU attack force. No no hang on a minute, aren’t they the Welsh FM’s Carwyn Jones front bench MP’s. Oh I know who they are did’t they star in the BBC soap Eldorado. Och I give up.

    72. G H Graham says:

      Stu,

      Never read it but is “Heat” magazine the sister publication to “Razzle”?

    73. alexicon says:

      I watched this morning on Youtube, it’s better with sound. It sure made me laugh.

      Notice the veterans with signs saying: we fought together. Did anyone tell them that Churchill had drawn up plans to abandon Scotland to the nazis if they had invaded Scotland first?

      https://m.youtube.com/watch ?v=F9qjomKLtBA

      I think you’ll need to copy and paste the link into your address bar.

      O/T. I’m just home from a 2 week stint offshore Rev and I gave your website details to at least 5 yes voters, all facebookers, who haven’t even heard of wings.
      Point being there’s still a lot of people out there still to be introduced to this site. I hope you get even more traffic heading your way.
      Guesstimate of YES voters on my platform must be around 80% easy.

    74. DougtheDug says:

      Unless they’ve just registered and it’s not made it to the website yet, then the Let’s Stay Together group haven’t registered with the Electoral Commission.

      I wonder if their spending on website and videos has breached the £10,000 unregistered organisation limit already?

    75. Bunter says:

      Seems this DRIP act or whatever for the benefit of GCHQ being rushed through, defines anything that threaten the economic well being of the UK as a threat to national security.

      Should YES campaign be worried I wonder.

    76. Bob Sinclair says:

      The morgatron,
      It can’t have been Jeffrey from Rainbow, it must be Bungle.

    77. heedtracker says:

      It makes me wish Scotland really was breaking alway and sailing off across the sea as far away as possible. It’s a new PR parliament in Holyrood, Edinburgh, not the end of days. Wonder if any of them really appreciate at all what a wonderful opportunity Scottish independence is, or is that the point Dan Snow you big BetterTogetherBBC nepotistic wet fart?

    78. Gordon Winter says:

      Think this kind of thing ought to be beneath you. I wouldn’t make fun of “Yes” celebrities, even if some of them are C list, so not taken with schoolboy humour at the expense of “No” ones.

    79. Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      “Think this kind of thing ought to be beneath you. I wouldn’t make fun of “Yes” celebrities, even if some of them are C list, so not taken with schoolboy humour at the expense of “No” ones.”

      You must be a riot at parties.

    80. Lesley-Anne says:

      alexicon, Churchill didn’t just draw up plans to abandon Scotland to Hilter if he invaded he DID abandon the 51st Highland division, including elements of some English regiments, after Dunkirk and also abandon the Cameron Highanders before the fall of Singapore. Westminster have history on abandoning those who put their lives on the line for their country.

      p.s. I’ve just watched a programme about British, read that as English as there were no Scots or Welsh or Irish voices, during the battle for France and it came across very clearly that these troops were sent over ill equipped etc. Now we all know where Blair and Brown got their idea to ill equip our troops in Afghanistan and Iraq from.

    81. G H Graham says:

      When Britnats recall fighting the Nazis as a primary reason for staying part of the UK, what do they make of this long list of countries that also fought them?

      Poland
      Canada
      Australia
      New Zealand
      Newfoundland
      South Africa
      Soviet Union
      United States
      China
      India
      Netherlands
      Norway
      Yugoslavia
      France

      While some no longer exist, why don’t they suggest we just all get along just dandy & have a single government with just one long list of spongers, criminals & greedy bastards representing all of us instead of each country having its own?

    82. Mark says:

      Seriously? A Yewtree gag? C’mon you’re better than that.

    83. Graham Mac says:

      They’re unlikely to sway many voters but oooooft! Steady on with the Baldrick comment; that’s going to hit the press tomorrow.

    84. Dick Gaughan says:

      “Scotland?” Wait, wait, I think I know this one.

      Isn’t that where the Edinburgh Festival’s held?

    85. Krackerman says:

      Seems to be a lot of BBC employees in this list of celebs.. just remember folks that if this was 30 years ago they’d have Stuart Hall, Rolf Harris, Dave Lee Travis and Jimmy Savile telling us we’re better in the UK…

      Naw.. NO THANKS – I’m going to vote YES!

    86. Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      “Seriously? A Yewtree gag? C’mon you’re better than that.”

      Quite evidently I’m not.

    87. handclapping says:

      Doh. I clicked where this had come from. Thats 4 min 18 seconds of my life wasted and I still don’t know who they are. Well not quite true, the one with the painted nails must be Eddie Izzard but he is fat.

    88. ronnie anderson says:

      Is that the luvbombing then Rev,ah went in bought a new

      lipsil, I’ll take it back tae the chemist an get a extra

      strong Peroxide fur the Arseholes need Bleachin,wie a wee

      Syphuric acid thrown in , oow ah nippy sweety.

    89. David Agnew says:

      Is there anything on balance that makes the following worthwhile?

      ATOS using our most vulnerable as a cash crop?
      Bedroom tax?
      Workfare?
      Plans to privatise the entire NHS?
      Abolishing of National Insurance tax and the destruction of universalism?
      Workfare being extended to the over 50s and pensioners.
      Withdrawal of support for the disabled and their carers?
      Scotland paying for london;s sewer upgrade, Crossrail project for London, HS2, trident and much much more?
      Being ridiculed for having contributed nothing to the success of the UK and sterling?

      And out they trot, all the hoary bromides. World war 1, world war 2, the royal family, Olympics and celebrity bingo, telling us we are the jam in their their jelly roll, while Osborne plans to starve Scotland of its own money.

      I do believe that the union is dead. I absolutely believe that Westminster is not fit to govern Scotland or be in charge of its economy. I don’t want the likes of Osborne or Balls deciding of the future spending of Scotland. I don’t want Cameron or Miliband speaking for Scotland abroad. I believe the current system as it stands, is a real and credible threat to the stability of Scotland and the UK.

      The UK is going down a deep dark scary hole. I have seen no compelling reason as to why Scotland needs to tag along for the ride.

    90. JLT says:

      And the rocks met with the sun.

      Is he describing a sunset? If so, he got that right! The sun coming down on the Union!

    91. lumilumi says:

      I’ve been otherwise busy the past few days (well, holidaying at some friends’ summer cottage by a lake…) but dipping into the Queen’s baton relay every now and then. For the scenery.

      The baton relay is streamed live online world-wide by the BBC, except when there isn’t enough bandwith – which means the relay passes through the most spectacular scenery in the Highlands and other “remote” areas in a black tunnel…

      Anyways, what I’ve noticed is that there aren’t that many flags along the route but what there are, Saltires outnumber Union Jacks maybe 100 to 1.

      Yesterday, in Kilwinning, while the baton visited the church, there was this middle-aged lady just dying to open her UJ umbrella on the cameras but, alas, it wasn’t raining, and the polis shepherded her and her retinue back behind the cordon. The kids had UJs as well, but they also had Saltires, and the Saltires showed most on the live stream. 🙂

      Later on yesterday the baton got to Stevenston and the streaming camera focused on a beautiful, waving Saltire – until they noticed that the Saltire had YES on it, after which the camera quickly turned to film the pavement…

      Did our Ian Brotherhood have anything to do with that YES Saltire? 😀

      Today I saw a couple of UJs, waved by well-turned-out elderly people by a bowling club in deepest, leafiest Giffnock.

      But mostly, if there are flags, they’re Saltires. UJs stick out because they’re so rare. (The BBC live stream tries to focus on them, for balance.)

      Maybe it doesn’t mean anything but it’s been great sharing Scotland’s scenery (barring poor signal 🙁 ) with my Finnish friends, and explaining about the Saltire and the UJ and all that.

      The Commonwealth Games, of course, won’t be shown in Finland, they’re not important. The Finnish public broadcaster YLE showed every single World Cup game live even though Finland is not one of the world’s great footballing nations…

      Commonwealth Games may get some highlights if good results are made in athletics. It’s a British Empire thing, not ours, and secondary to the Olympics anyway.

      That said, I hope Glasgow has a great Games!!! And I hope Scotland has a great Games!!!

    92. Willum says:

      Couldn’t they get Katie Price?

    93. JLT says:

      Or should I say …’going down on the Union’ (hate doing this on a blooming phone)

    94. magnus barelegs says:

      oh dear!!! wealthy toffs/hooray henrys, unemployed actors and welsh people trying to tell us we are better together and best friends. the brit state has a very odd way of showing it if thats the case.

    95. Doug Daniel says:

      I love Barrowman managing to misquote Burns. I also love that the hashtag they all write at the end (#Let’s Stay Together) wouldn’t actually work, since it has punctuation in it.

      Dan Snow says “together we’ve been world beaters”. I’m guessing he doesn’t mean in sport, since the UK doesn’t generally play as one team in team sports, plus he’s a military historian, so by his own admission he’s a bit obsessed with wars. So, “together we’ve killed people on a mass scale, and many of those countries are still years away from recovering from the damage we did to them”. Bit difficult to get on that sheet of card, admittedly.

      Tony Robinson, one of the more recognisable faces, feels the need not only to say who he is, but to put the name of his most famous character part, in case we think he’s just some random weirdo drawing a neep in a kilt (yes Tony, a NEEP, not a turnip.)

      Fiona Phillips says “Scotland is part of my family”. No we’re not.

      Some idiot says “for our NHS”. Your NHS is already separate, numbnuts. And up the swanny, because you keep voting for the Tories.

      (Or is that a Yes voter sneaking in there to say why they’re voting Yes?)

      And Eddie loves us so much that he has to look away from the camera when telling us he loves us. Hmmm, whatever you say, Eddie!

    96. BigRik says:

      I know who they all are… people without a vote 🙂

    97. Jim Marshall says:

      Oh they want us right enough but do we want them ? Other than Victor Meldrew who was mildly amusing ( can”t remember his real name )they are quite forgettable.

    98. Colin says:

      It’s sad that these self proclaimed celebrity’s would gang together to deny Scotland’s right to self determination and it’s rightful place in the world.

      I wonder what they were promised in return.

    99. Black Douglas says:

      I Love both Eddie and Tony’s work but they are two cheeks of the same arse(sorry for the Galloway quote but sure he stole it anyway) with the same aspirations of elevation within the Labour party.

    100. DougtheDug says:

      Let’s Stay Together is a Labour Lovey Front.

      It was started by MT Rainey, the Chairwoman of Think Limited, the company who registered the letsstaytogether.org.uk domain, and Andrew McGuinness who runs adertising agencies.

      MT Rainey has donated to Douglas Alexander’s constituency party in the past and has close links to Labour and Andrew McGuinness contributed to Tony Blair’s successful General Election campaigns.

      The letsstaytogether.org.uk site is promoted by John Braggins who has directed Labour campaigns over the past decades.

      The videos were done by Silverfish Media which is run by Mark Lucas. He’s also been heavily involved in Labour broadcasts in the past.

      It’s just another Labour site.

    101. Doug Daniel says:

      I hate this kind of patronising shite. “Oh, don’t go, we like you so much!” It’s like spending a whole party being completely ignored, and just as you decide to sneak out, someone goes “oh don’t go, come and have another drink!” So you stay out of guilt, and spend the rest of the party still being ignored, and at the end wish you’d just gone when you were going to.

      Let’s not look back in a few years and wish we’d gone when we had the chance.

    102. Croompenstein says:

      Just gives me the dry boak watching that, and where was Charles ‘hic hic splutter’ Kennedy the twat

    103. gfaetheblock says:

      You should have a go at name the folk on the yes video, I got 8/32, but I am a mogwai fan rather than a river city fan.

      On a more serious point, it is pretty depressing if anyone votes one way because a celebrity said so.

    104. heedtracker says:

      I’m John Barrowman AHA!
      http://www.johnbarrowman.com/fanzone/television/makingofme.shtml
      Madasfuck.com also, is Jon Snow related to Dan Snow, looks like a daily ukok AlicSamin monstering coming up on C4 news tonight.

    105. magnus barelegs says:

      one minute they are love bombing us the next they are threatening to put up border posts and take away our currency. strange folk indeed.

    106. Clootie says:

      I had my rant on Bella this morning.

      Why don’t they just say ” London wants your money so vote NO”

    107. Indy_Scot says:

      “Please stay”, just exactly where do they think we are going?

      Would it not be more appropriate to say,

      “Please let us continue to run your country in to the ground while plunder all your natural resources for our own benefit.”

    108. Tom says:

      Tim Nice but Dim is Dan Snow the great historian of the 21st Century… apparently.

      I asked the BBC how he got his job, did he apply or did maybe daddy have something to do with it ? Didn’t get an answer, funny that

    109. CyberNiall says:

      The “LAUJHED” guy is David Harewood MBE.

      http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0362873/?ref_=tt_cl_t8

    110. Dan Huil says:

      Bitter together?
      Ross Kemp was dumped by Rebekah Brooks [nee Wade].
      Says it all.

    111. James A says:

      I see Scotland’s Champion is trying to reanimate the dead nag. Hi ho cybernattery away! Apprently some wee laddie from the city formerly known as Brookside thought it would be a jolly summer wheeze to get paid to come to canvas Glasgow on behalf of No. He tweeted as much and has apprently received the twitter version of a Glasgow Kiss for a welcome. Aside from reading he now feels ‘scared’ (is he REALLY from Merseyside?) I’m not sure what else I learned from this waste of newsprint. Except the Record is unable – as usual – to identify definitively the source of said ‘offensive and vile’ tweets though the ones listed would hardly qualify for a banner headline. The Record doesn’t even seem concerned BT need or think it appropriate to bus students in to canvas who know nothing of the political context in which they are being asked to operate save the stock BT fear-script they are being handed…

    112. CageyBee says:

      when did David Cameron ask them to get in touch and ask us to stay exactly?. Some Best Friend taking this long to getting round to it

    113. galamcennalath says:

      Dan Snow.

      “Bannockburn…….the idea of an ethnically pure Scottish side and ethnically pure English side attacking one another is absurd.”

      Has the daft laddie not realised how absurd it is to even compare our present struggle with any ethnic struggle, ever, anywhere?

      Because it sounds like he is saying that if Bannockburn HAD been an ethnic clash then it would somehow be relevant to events today!

      BritNats! They are just incapable of thinking outside an ethnic bubble. An ad for Yes if ever there was one.

    114. Muscleguy says:

      OT there’s an Israeli spokesman on C4 News right now actually justifying the killing and targeting of women, children and a spinal injury hospital in Gaza.

      I’m sickened by it.

      If anyone ever trumpets highly accurate munitions ask them why so many civilians have been killed in Gaza by them.

    115. The Morgatron says:

      Dim Snow , is his old man not Dim Sum?

    116. Mrs Grimble says:

      I’ve had a Twatter convo with that wee scouser laddio and he insists he’s coming alone and off his own bat. I rather doubt that, but he’s just a bairn, treat him nicely OK?

    117. Paula Rose says:

      Did they get Rolf Harris to wobble a sheet of cardboard? I believe he used it as an instrument very effectively.

    118. Papadox says:

      O/T

      Channel 4 news. John Snow is one of the fairest and most sincere reporters in these days of establishment mouthpieces and government controlled press and TV. ie EBC

      He did a very good report into the referendum a few weeks back and tonight he took the IDF television spokesman to bits after they killed 4 boys playing football on a empty beech and bombed a hospital.
      Much respect and admiration for a fair brave and honest man. Well done ALL on channel 4 news.

    119. M4rkyboy says:

      I am in rejectionist mood.Don’t think i’ll bother watching it.

    120. magnus barelegs says:

      and of course camoron rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic during this reshuffle is nothing to do with the paedophile rings that inhabit westminster yeah right!! and which may yet bring that stinking cesspit down for good. this begs the question why would anyone in scotland want to put our future in the hands of kiddy fiddlers, crooks, spivs and scumbags. time to go people.

    121. Yesitis says:

      This is really funny, Rev Stu.

      Seems this whole ‘Stay with us’ business is backfiring badly…and it`s hilarious watching it unfold.

    122. Bunter says:

      Aye Clegg of the daily rancid was gaily trumpeting their newest cybernat smear of wee Harry from down South who was offered his travel and grub expenses to come up and tell us how to vote.

      I watched the discussion yesterday and all I saw was genuine curiosity and some gentle ribbing, but no nasty threats. The rancid of course missed out wee Harry’s tweet where he said we couldn’t afford Indy, aka subsidy junkie. Quite a provocative and insulting statement for wee harry, intending to come up and chap oor doors.

    123. heedtracker says:

      Papadox says:
      16 July, 2014 at 7:32 pm
      O/T

      Channel 4 news. John Snow is one of the fairest and most sincere reporters

      Last time I saw him interview FM Salmond on C4 news, Snow more less shat all over Scottish democracy and I hope thats the last time in this union. Plus every time C4 come to Scotland they show the ugliest views they can find of Scotland.

    124. Helpmaboab says:

      This video has confirmed all of my worst paranoia. The United Kingdom truly is an elaborate comic hoax conducted by Chris Morris…

    125. Andy says:

      You should seriously consider disabling comments on these sorts of stories, it brings out the bams who, for some reason, think that the other half of the Union can’t have an opinion on whether they want it broken up or not.

      It’s the bams that put most of the maybes off.

    126. alexicon says:

      Words are cheap

    127. Wes Wemyss says:

      Is No2 the woman who used to collect folk’s shite in tupperware boxes?

    128. Dan Huil says:

      It seems to me Jon Snow and Channel 4 news take the Guardian’s view of the independence movement in Scotland.
      If Jon Snow and Channel 4 news featured Mr Juncker’s real view on an independent Scotland’s EU membership I apologize.

    129. Richard Bruce says:

      @Dan Huil,

      Did he no get a “doin” from Rebecca too?

    130. heedtracker says:

      Thanks C4 news, i didnt know AlicSamin spent so much time in Ladbrokes as a kid and back to London, the only thing in teamGB that matters.

    131. Flooplepoop says:

      O/T
      Great post from Yes Shetland, worth a read

      http://www.facebook.com/YesShetland/posts/878945082118837:0

    132. Iain Gray's Subway Lament says:

      Bit of a step down after the Pope, Harry Potter and Obama utterly failed to be the gamechanger No were praying they would be.

      This celebrity fluff is of no consequence whatsoever.

      The referendum will be decided by family, friends, worklmates and every facet of a grassroots based campaign. It has zero chance of being decided by luvvies and z listers from a ‘safe’ distance.

    133. Anne Lawrie says:

      Did I read somewhere that BBC are going to be on strike on the first day of the games? Would that be the opening ceremony?

    134. galamcennalath says:

      Flooplepoop says:
      “Great post from Yes Shetland, worth a read”

      Just did. Love it were true, not saying it isn’t, but wow it’s optimistic!

      One very good point, it suggests Cameron is far more interested in winning the 2015 election than saving the Union. Yea, that makes sense. And, if you accept it, does make sense of the chaos we see.

    135. Chitterinlicht says:

      I am with Sting on this.

      ” If you love somebody set them free….”

      Also at 1.15 mins it talks about “for our NHS” for Pete Beales sake!!

      If you are going to patronise us at least get your facts rights.

    136. ken says:

      Scraping the bottom of the barrel here, boys. Whoever wrote this up must surely have realised what tosh it was, no????? Everything on this website is shoddy propaganda and devalues the referendum. Even people who are considering voting independence avoid this website, that should speak volumes…

    137. JLT says:

      Doug Daniel,

      I hate this kind of patronising shite. “Oh, don’t go, we like you so much!”

      You’re spot on there. That’s what it seems to feel like. I really can’t be bothered with it either.

      However, what seems to make me laugh about this whole farce is that they seem to be at a total loss as to how they should handle us with this ‘….lurve bombing’

      First, they put Obama, Clinton, Barroso, Van Rompuy and Putin in front of us and they got a mixed response (Obama and Clinton looked uncomfortable, the 2 Europeans grumbled and Putin asked if we wanted to join his federation which basically left Cameron looking like an arse) …so that didn’t quite work.
      Then they went for the super big-guns …the ones who are kind of close to God in some ways; the Queen and the Pope. The Queen told Cameron to sod off, and the Pope just smiled. So …hmm …nope, still not working!
      Third time lucky …eh No! They throw 3rd class celebrities at us with a ‘we love you, we love you’ attitude (ahhh! The Luvvies in other words) …but …nope, sorry guys, we’re still shaking our heads.

      Makes you wonder who is next? God maybe? Personally …(whisper, whisper) ….Hey, Better Together, I would just leave this well alone. It ain’t working ….just like your campaign…

    138. galamcennalath says:

      There are only two arguments for the existing Union. Firstly nostalgia, secondly barely veiled jingoism. Each of the above characters will be motivated by one of those.

      There are two additional reasons why some Scots support the Union. Fear of change and vested interest. At least the above don’t play on those, unlike the typical tabloid headline!

    139. Dcanmore says:

      Folks, Dan Snow’s dad is Peter Snow of the swingometer fame. Jon snow is a cousin of Peter.

    140. Grouse Beater says:

      What is so galling about those ‘celebs’ good wishes for us to remain subservient is how little they have done to seek understanding of Scotland’s ills, and scribbling words on board as if we are deaf is all they need to do.

    141. Croompenstein says:

      @ken – Livingstone I presume 😀

    142. scottish_skier says:

      As pointed out on Scotgoespop…

      True Love Isn’t Possessive.

      Putting all the other stuff you could pick holes in or laugh at, that’s the major failing of the vid.

      Lovebombs must be ‘We’ll love you whatever you decide (and it’s your decision)’.

      If not, they’ll backfire.

    143. Robert Llewellyn Tyler says:

      The percentage speaking Welsh in Gareth Edwards’ home town of Gwaun Cae Gurwen has dropped from 80% in 1991 to 56 % in 2011. There is no work there and the ageing population has severe health problems.
      We are definitely better off together!
      Sad to see Ian Rush in this as well.
      Let me assure you that there is great support for YES in Wales.
      Good Luck

    144. Neil says:

      Long time lurker. First time poster. Thanks Wings for all your regular dissections of the truly awful no campaign propaganda. Truly it’s great and I always direct people here when I am trying to argue the case for independence as this site is a goldmine of evidence showing up the horrendous mainstream media.

      However I did truly wince at the operation yewtree comment on Tony Robinson. It’s not in sync with all this site has achieved. It’s really fucking low actually.

      I can’t think of any other way to put it sadly. The asterisk doesn’t mask this.

      I don’t like putting my neck out on line but I hold this site in such high regard (admittedly from afar) I had to say something.

      Keep up the good fight. Don’t succumb to the desire to be nasty. It’s a constant struggle but maintain the high ground.

    145. benarmine says:

      I thought Michael Crick’s Channel 4 report from Scotland was worse than anything I’ve seen on the BBC. Patronising, insulting, lying garbage.

    146. G. Campbell says:

      Number of Oliver Norths in an independent Scotland: NOT MANY,

      Number of Oliver Norths in the rest of the UK: LOADS!

      SCOTLAND BENEFITS from rUK’s Oliver Norths.

      “These people have already signed up to the Let’s Stay Together campaign, why don’t you?”

      John Barrowman
      Tracy Brabin
      Michelle Collins
      Susannah Constantine
      Sir Bruce Forsyth
      Dame Tanni Grey-Thompson
      David Harewood
      Scott Hastings
      Brendan Ingle
      Eddie Izzard
      Ross Kemp
      Baroness Doreen Lawrence
      Fiona Phillips
      Tony Robinson
      Ian Rush
      June Sarpong
      Dan Snow
      Richard Wilson
      Trinny Woodall
      Andrew McGuinness
      MT Rainey
      Chris Sansom
      Paul Duncanson
      Rachel Bines
      Mary Mackie
      Steven Basing
      Alan MacDougall
      Janet Holland
      Robert MacGowan
      Scott Norris
      Ian Padfield
      John Mackie
      Rhoda MacDonald
      Nathan Bisnouth
      Charles Ocansey
      Jerome Neill
      Cynthia Ramsammy
      Ruby Holder
      Devika Arugumpillai
      Marie Bateman
      Harry Bateman
      Nancy Randall
      Muriel Greig
      Caroline Draper
      Teresa Ocansey
      Aisling McCabe
      Angela Baldwin
      Ian Baldwin
      Alec Betteridge
      Helen Betteridge
      Kate Shaw Nelson
      Alexandra Shaw Nelson
      Antony Draper
      Alison Fletcher Rogers
      Peter McCabe
      Dolores Bisnouth
      Stan Anderson
      Stephen Crankson
      Allan Ellis
      Rosie Clancy
      Audrey Dehaney
      Catherine O’Neill
      Bupe Ngoy
      Doris Ayigbeni
      Emil David
      Evan Ewhart
      Grace Delaforomnte
      Tony Delaforomnte
      Leon Williams
      Toni McCabe
      Motiur Rahman
      Margaret McDonagh
      Siobhain McDonagh
      Breda McDonagh
      Su Carroll
      Peace Golomeke
      Mervyn Eubank
      Maggie Fiddes
      Joan Henry
      Andy Cole
      Alison Carman
      Gretel Bankersingh
      Steven Downey
      Kevin Downey
      Siobhain Downey
      Laxmi Attawar
      Hugh Clarke
      Vera Wells
      Ann Marie Brown O ‘Connor
      Ashton Anderson
      Benny Seeworutton
      Betty Acquah
      Paul McGuinness
      Isabella Wesolowska
      Sandy Murphy
      David Gibbs
      John Acton
      Geoff Rigsby
      John Jeffries
      Robert Matthews
      Daniel Stockdale
      John Webb
      Giorgia Porrelli
      Jack Metcalf
      Oliver North
      Lucas Woodward
      Josh Hall
      Emmanuel Demmuren
      Harry Banks
      Josh Fruttiger
      Hugo Marx
      Theo Marks
      Tom Hayes
      John Howard
      Emma O’Dwyer
      James Asser
      Tom Rutland
      Wes Streeting
      Lauren Crowley
      Jack Falkingham
      Richard Angell
      Kevin McKeever
      Peter Kyle
      Katrina Ireland
      Anna Eaton
      Jaimie Hughes
      Jackie Ireland
      Joss Ireland
      Sophie Ernesta
      Kirsty Willis
      Natalie Ireland
      Daniel McNamara
      Lauren Downham
      Paul McGuinness
      Isabella Wesolowska
      Sandy Murphy
      David Gibbs
      John Acton
      Geoff Rigsby
      John Jeffries
      Robert Matthews
      Daniel Stockdale
      John Webb
      Giorgia Porrelli
      Jack Metcalf
      Oliver North
      Lucas Woodward
      Josh Hall
      Emmanuel Demmuren
      Harry Banks
      Oliver North
      Oliver North
      Oliver North
      Oliver North
      Oliver North
      Oliver North
      Oliver North
      Oliver North
      Oliver North
      Oliver North
      Oliver North
      Oliver North
      Oliver North
      Oliver North
      Oliver North

      https://www.letsstaytogether.org.uk/signatures#signatories

    147. Muscleguy says:

      @Robert Llewellyn Tyler

      The Lions argument is so transparently silly because of Eire involvement that they introduce it either shows they are absolutely fucking desperate or they are arrogantly thinking we are all stupid numpties. Mind you those are not entirely mutually exclusive.

      It isn’t as though Wales is on the East coast and not facing Eire across the Irish Sea is it?

    148. Croompenstein says:

      The people in this video are addressing me and every other Scot and as such we have a right to an opinion on it. I bear these people no ill but they are quite clearly uninformed on the real debate that is taking place in Scotland.

      If they put themselves up for this kind of propaganda then no one can moan if some folk take offence and insult their credibility. The concern trolls will always come out to play

    149. gavin lessells says:

      Been out of touch as usual!

      What is happening re “Wee Blue Books”?

    150. Ian Brotherhood says:

      It’s a flea-circus for the modern era.

      Allez-ooop!

      PS Lumi-lumi – wisnae me with the flag in Stevenston. I didn’t even know the thing had been in town until hours later.

    151. Paula Rose says:

      Ken dear (8:20) can you recommend a pro-independence site worth visiting?

    152. Rory says:

      I thought it was very n

    153. joey b goode says:

      Last one is easy, he played on Terry Wogan’s hit single ‘The Floral Dance’?

    154. Rory says:

      NIce. Music wasn’t my favourite. The placards were lacklustre. There werent many smiles or any humour. And it was chronically over produced. In fact I didn’t like it much. I liked the idea of a popular grassroots expression of affection and kinship from the RUK: but this isn’t it.

      I don’t watch crap tele, buy or read trashy gossip or care for celebrity culture. I found this post, fir those reasons, a bad reaction to the vid. Perhaps having a link to this next to it https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hUE-yyZ6rVI

      But in any case keep the good work up rev, this is where I come for my news.

    155. Paula Rose says:

      Perhaps the movers and shakers of the video had their roots in grass?

      Maybe the mowers and strimmers?

    156. BrianW says:

      What i find depressing is that rather than answer questions as to what the actual benefits they potificate about staying UK are, they’d rather make a fluffy, plinky plonky advert with plinky plonky celebs (that aren’t even really high profile enough to be considered for “I’m a Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here.”)

      Mr Cameron, what fiscal responsibilities would Westminster be prepared to grant the Scots after a No?

      Well that’s a very important issue and one which I fully intend to answer. But first I’d like to bring your attention to this fluffy advert the Better Together No Thanks uKOK, have produced. The sun is shining, the music is cheery. Whats wrong with remaining united?

      Now what was was the question..

      Funny, as the only celeb I can think of quoting right now is Cathrine Tate’s Gran…

      “What a load of old shit…!”

    157. Adam says:

      O/T

      Just been canvassing in Brunstane, Edinburgh – a lot of undecided but hopefully with the info supplied they will come over to the light side.

      Someone mentioned on the doorstep that Police Scotland have told their staff that they are not allowed to discuss the referendum, even in private. Her relative was told this at work (but she did not say whether the message was relayed by email). She also said there was an article in the Daily Mail about this but – guess what – it’s not available online.

      Has anyone else heard about this? Apologies if this is known about and has been mentioned elsewhere but I’m not aware of it and I read a fair amount.

    158. G H Graham says:

      There’s a program listed on BBC 2 right now that boasts of a railway being built in London that is costing £15 billion.

      Yet, London thinks £2 billion is too much to set up a new, independent country!

    159. Fergus Green says:

      If the last one is Blair McDougall, who is the guy giving him a blow?

    160. NODROG says:

      I’ve got it!!! They are trying to improve their image. No don’t laugh – I’m serious!! OK,OK I’m laughing too – it’s the way they tell them!! Or even spell them!!

    161. Dcanmore says:

      Okay folks, lets take a look at ‘Let’s Stay Together’ shall we.

      At the bottom of the home page it says Promoted by John Braggins 63-64 Margaret Street, London W1W 8SW.

      From this address John Braggins runs bbm Campaigns a PR & Marketing company with the imprint ‘Campaign It’.

      http://www.campaignit.com/

      “The ‘Campaign It!’ model can be applied to anything: it can underpin corporate strategies, change opinion, support individual career development, enhance personal growth or create social change.”

      “Our Campaign It! model and our approach enables us to inform, persuade and gain agreement from others and we do this powerfully and positively to achieve success.”

      I take it this is the beginning of the lovebomb strategy.

      John Braggins: “John was Labour’s ‘secret weapon’ helping Labour win virtually every parliamentary by-election in the ten year period leading up to the Tony Blair landslide victory of 1997. He introduced and refined direct mail, telephone banks and the strategic use of out-door publicity.”

      “John is an expert on local government, acting as Head of Local Government for Labour from 2000 to 2002 and then Senior Press Officer for the newly formed Greater London Assembly.”

      “bbm was founded by Alan Barnard and John Braggins who first met in the late eighties when they were both working for the Labour Party, developing and refining new and better ways of campaigning. They were at the centre of Labour’s landslide victory in 1997 and then planned and directed the Scottish and Welsh referendums in 1999…

      John remained at Labour to help plan the 2001 election campaign, before moving on to head the media operation for Labour at the Greater London Assembly.”

      So now you know where JK Rowling’s big cash injection has went and why Better Together No Thanks UKOK keep asking for more cash. Like Scotland’s wealth it all goes to London into a big dark hole. This time a London-based PR Marketing strategist with strong Labour Party connections.

      Along with the Tory-backed VoteNoBorders, which is situated not far away from ‘Let’s Stay Together’ you can see why THEY are Better Together, I wonder in which pub they meet up for the lunchtime chinwag.

    162. lumilumi says:

      @ Ian B

      But maybe the YES Saltire waver got his/her Saltire from you or your cohorts doing the good YES work in the area. When I saw it online in another country, I laughed outloud and thought of you because I know you’re from that area.

      As to celebrities.

      Why do political parties or campaigns use celebrities?

      It’s because they think voters are stupid.

      It’s just a sign of the dumbing down of politics, or public life in general. Politicos think that if someone shakes her booty and asks to vote for their party, we, the voters, identify with the booty babe and vote the way they want.

      Most voters are, thankfully, much too smart for that. Celebrity endorsements generate more ire than admiration/following unless the c’leb in question has actually done his/her homework and genuinely supports a cause.

      Celebrities would be well advised to stay clear of any political campaigns unless they have actually looked at the facts and formed an informed opinion and feel strongly about it. Otherwise they end up looking like puppets and tits.

    163. Robert Peffers says:

      @Lesley-Anne says: 16 July, 2014 at 6:20 pm:
      “On a more serious note, where can I get our Jeep Grand Cherokee stretched? We have run out of space on the Jeep’s windows for all our posters and we desperately need more SPACE!”

      Och! Nae bother! Get a trailer frae Halfords.
      Alternate ideas – Fit a couple of boards like an inverted , “V”, on the roof. Fit a flag staff at the front of the roof and fly a great big YES Saltire.
      Or all of the above at once. Wa! Hae!
      ;-))

    164. Dcanmore says:

      bbm were also headed the campaign ‘Say NO to AV’.

      I wonder if Eddie Izzard knows this considering he campaigned FOR AV?

      http://www.campaignit.com/happy-clients/

    165. Bunter says:

      @ Adam

      The police Scotland story was in The Sunday Herald last week. Seems they have been advised, for whatever reason, not to discuss. You might still be able to look up the article.

    166. Robert Peffers says:

      @James123 says: 16 July, 2014 at 6:23 pm

      “If I had a friend who was stealing my money, leaving dangerous weapons lying around my house and hiding radioactive material under my floorboards then I wouldn’t necessarily consider them my best friend.”

      Brilliant!

    167. gavin lessells says:

      Has the “Wee Blue Book” gone away then?

    168. Paul Beck says:

      Number 2 must surely be the newly-promoted Esther McVey.

    169. biggpolmont says:

      g campbell
      These people have already signed up to the Let’s Stay Together campaign, why don’t you?”
      answer
      Cos Scotland means too much to me to be persuaded otherwise
      by a bunch of has beens, never will be’s, or people that care so much about Scotland they wait until two months before the referendum to tell us they care!
      How many are on their list excluding Ollie north(s)
      a hundred and odd out of how many millions Come back when fifty one percent of the population have signed up!

    170. Adam says:

      Cheers Bunter.

      As I live in England (up in Scotland canvassing this week which has been uplifting and depressing at the same time – there are still too many no turkeys voting for Xmas) I haven’t seen it as I won’t give that stable any money to fund their daily paper.

    171. Croompenstein says:

      @Bob Sinclair – thanks for that link, shared on facebook

    172. Caroline Corfield says:

      O/T saw a graphic on fb tonight of child poverty in Glasgow, seems to have been posted on twitter by a guy at Sheffield University but I couldn’t get it to load from his tweet, however from same guy found this, an interactive map of deprivation built using data from HMRC, have a look for where you live…

      https://sites.google.com/site/scotdep2012/

    173. handclapping says:

      @Dcanmore
      Thats interesting; role reversal time, AV had nothing going for it, an easy sell. Even I who favour PR voted against AV as it had nothing to recommend it.
      Now they are having to sell the Union which no longer has anything to recommend it. Bit like the shopkeeper who flogged the dead Norwegian blue to John Cleese 300 years ago except its not funny.

    174. Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      “Has the “Wee Blue Book” gone away then?”

      No, of course not. Nearly finished.

    175. Ian Brotherhood says:

      This, from celebrity magazine Grazia (14th July, p 101) ‘Week In, Week Out’ section _

      ‘T In The Park

      Scotland’s response to Glastonbury. Arctic Monkeys bring the observational Sheffield soundbites, Calvin Harris the rave meltdowns and Biffy Clyro, well, we’re not too sure on that one. Disclosure, Pharrell, Haim and London Grammar all worth a peek. In the near future, non-Scot UK ravers may need a passport to attend. Crikey.’

    176. Grouse Beater says:

      Some time ago a Channel Four satirical news show, a spoof, (sorry, can’t recall its title) managed to encourage a few celebs to narrate an appeal for funds to help remove an elephant’s trunk from its ass.

      Amazingly, none questioned the notion. All were happy to read from a card to camera and take direction for reruns to get it right, still unaware of the ludicrous nature of the subject matter, proving celebs will do anything to keep their face in front of the public.

    177. Drew Macleod says:

      Desperate times for B/T! Don’t know who the hell most of them are But I am seriously disappointed in Tony Robinson and Richard Wilson. I’ve met them and got on very well with both. You can certainly go off people!

    178. gavin lessells says:

      Rev.

      Thanks! Looking forward to reading it.

    179. YESGUY says:

      Another day and more guff from the NT campaign.

      Laughed through all the comments and have to say this site is THE BEST .

      Really enjoyed the NT video. I thought half of them were deid and know they have done some telly but come on. Have these buggers been threatened with sanctions to their dole if they don’t do the vid… Hardly an effort of a smile and utterly patronising . Fuds !!

      Still when we look back at this from a independent country we might make a video for them calling it ” We luv ya rUK but we’re not coming back”

      Serious note. What the hell is happening down there. The NHS is goosed they have food banks and the like and they do bugger all when they are told more is to come, only worse……. Peodo’s in the govt being hidden away, it’s a corrupt midden and we are the only ones trying to do something about it.

      Who in their right mind would want anything to do with a goverment that scares and misguides people taking the most important decision in our history ??

      GOOD RIDDANCE VOTE YES .

    180. Quentin Quale says:

      O/T News that two of Cameroon’s wrestlers have gone missing in Aberdeen. Probably off to join the Cameroon Highlanders. Boom tish.

    181. Caroline Corfield says:

      actually the employment deprivation tag is worth a look too. and here is his menu page.
      He’s Alasdair Rae btw.

      http://ajrae.staff.shef.ac.uk/

    182. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Trailer for an interesting 2009 documentary called ‘Starsuckers’, all about how celebrity culture works – even more interesting now that Max Clifford’s doing porridge:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH6VqnHS_3I

    183. goldenayr says:

      Freddie “Parrot Face” Davies doesn’t live far from me.

      Will I ask why such a prominent “star” such as he wasn’t asked to appear?

    184. Democracy Reborn says:

      It’s abusive-partner syndrome writ large politically.

      “Please don’t leave, ah love ye, ah’m gonnie change, ah’ve no treated you right, ah’ve no listened to you, it’s gonnie be an equal partnership from now on, ah’m gonnie give you more money, ah’m gonnie treat you with respect…..”. Utter dirge.

      FFS, we are nothing more than an extension of Greater England : that’s the formal legal position that our current ‘better together’ UK government takes.

      Slightly O/T, but nevertheless relevant to the vacuous pish being spouted by these celebs : on BBC2 just now is a program about London Crossrail. It’s called the “The FIFTEEEN BILLION Pound Railway”. There you go folks – ‘pooling & sharing’ our money!

    185. RMFBrown says:

      Like the above poster, I harbour no ill-will to these people, either. Dan Snow’s battlefield Britain was a great series, Blackadder is comedy gold, Ian Rush is a football legend, and David Harewood is a first class actor.

      Their views on Scottish independence, however, are irrelevant.

    186. Croompenstein says:

      @Grouse Beater – Karla the Elephant..

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLC7u_1Yp_w

    187. goldenayr says:

      RMFBrown

      Got to take issue with the “Dan Snow” doing “brilliant” anything.

      The guy is a first class narcissist.

    188. thorbor says:

      There’s no such thing as bad publicity

      the more people who watch that video the better, if someone votes no because of it then they dont deserve independence

    189. Red Squirrel says:

      Even if I knew (or cared) who these folk are, it doesn’t change a thing – UK plc is over & it’s time to have our country back thanks.

    190. kendomacaroonbar says:

      O/T

      Final 10 hours of this current Friends of WoS fundraiser for Wings High Quality Ceramic Badges and Trolley Tokens/Dog Tags. Thanks for all your support.

      http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/friends-of-wings-over-scotland-fundraiser

    191. Thepnr says:

      Get your wee badge from Ken before there all gone. Future treasured items for sure.

    192. goldenayr says:

      thorbor

      Don’t let your anger cloud the issue.

      They’re hoping for people to be scared enough and now sorry enough for the easily led to vote no.

      This is exactly the thing we’re having to fight against out campaigning.

    193. North chiel says:

      Totally agree with Benarmine as regards
      Michael Cricks report on Channel 4 news this
      Evening on referendum campaigns.Obvious propaganda
      Showing “middle class” no voters in Kelso and
      “Working Class” yes voters In Linlithgow showing
      First ministers parents home and local “Ladbrokes”
      Where A S apparently use to gambol (smear)
      And then link to A S “gambolling” with
      Scotland’s future.
      Utter garbage of a report !

    194. Susan Goldwyre says:

      I guess Scotland just doesn’t have that many A list celebrities. Nice that so many commentators know who the people are though.

    195. goldenayr says:

      Susan Goldwyre

      A scary amount of “A” list celebs given our population.

      The vast majority of which are YES voters.

    196. heedtracker says:

      @ Susan Goldwyre, who could forget Victor Meldrew, hour after hour, year after year of “I don’t believe it”. Admit it britnats, if they didnae have the licence fee, bettertogetherBBC would be long gone. sighs

    197. Lesley-Anne says:

      WOW!

      Sorry for going O/T but did I just see that correctly?

      I’m watching the Sky News paper review and the Daily Mirror front page has Clegg, who he? 😛 , calling for the axing of the bedroom tax. Hmm! Now you can call me cynical if you want… you’re cynical! but would there happen to be a General Election in the distant horizon by any chance?

    198. muttley79 says:

      What is really amusing about the referendum is people who are clearly British nationalists keep going on and on about how much they hate nationalism! They still have not recognised the irony in it at all as far as I can see. British nationalism was responsible for one of the largest empires in history, and yet there is no recognition of this from the British establishment itself. The amount of people who were killed by the British empire is staggering. Yet when they talk about nationalism in the referendum, you know that they are referring to Scottish nationalism because they normally say it with such contempt.

    199. Susan Goldwyre says:

      Top “a” lister on my internet search was J K.

    200. Susan Goldwyre says:

      Top “a” lister on my internet search was J K.

    201. goldenayr says:

      Susan Goldwyre

      If you only put in british celebs,that’s what you’ll get.

      Try just A list celebs in your search engine.

    202. Lesley-Anne says:

      Oh dearie me newspaper reviewers going on about Cameron lying about what Harman may or may not have said. Funny how they seem incapable of looking at the other lies perpetrated by Cameron at P.M.Q.’s. Heaven forbid that they attack Cameron for spreading lies and deceit about an independent Scotland in the E.U.

    203. Gordon Beattie says:

      All joking aside, the list of pictured celebs is a scary bunch of people who used to be famous – all DESPERATE to sign up for another DESPERATE cause. Of the ‘stars’ I actually recognise 1 is Scots, 2 are Welsh, 8 are English, 1 is adopted Scots/reject American (what ever mood he’s in…) and the other 2 must be Aliens as no-one recognises them or is sad enough to admit they KNOW who they actually are…

    204. Susan Goldwyre says:

      I did put in A list celebs and that’s what I got! Such is the way of the internet. It’s not validated!

    205. sausage fingered luddite says:

      Scotland 2014 has just informed the nation (or at least those watching) that oil is financially volatile…

    206. goldenayr says:

      Susan Goldwyre

      Oh!Sorree..should have said,as long as you’re not using the BT search engine.

    207. goldenayr says:

      Susan Goldwyre

      Funny,I just done one and Kanye West came up No1.

      Go figure.

    208. goldenayr says:

      sausage fingered luddite

      Stop watching…she’s not smiling at you or what your fingers are doing.

    209. lumilumi says:

      @muttley (10.38pm)

      Indeed.

      All nationalism is BAD (except British jingoistic empire nationalism, but they just don’t see it).

      Scotland’s civic nationalism is especially BAD because it shows British nationalism for what it is: jingoistic, chauvinistic, racist.

      So it’s best to attack first, and call all pro-indy people in Scotland NAZIS. That ought to stop that independence nonsense, right?

      Ehm. Calling reasonable people Nazis is never going to win you any votes, Darling.

    210. heedtracker says:

      and Sarah Smith cant drive. Scottish democracy destroyed by very odd characters although sucker tax payer will pay all those cab fairs and BBC limos.

    211. sausage fingered luddite says:

      @goldenayr
      I didnt realise that was a smile when her face contorted that way – I just assumed it was wind.

    212. lumilumi says:

      Just in case any or all of these BT mannequins get weepy about how the vile cybernats monster them…

      Provide evidence!

      Real online harrassment, defamation, threats are a police matter.

      Being called semi-nasty names in passing on social media is not harrasment. It’s par for course.

      Get real and stop wasting police time.

      Oh! So you didn’t report the harrassment to the police, just the tabloids? The one which paid you the most. Rrrright.

      Thank you, Z-list celebrities, for your contribution to the Scottish independence debate. At least you haven’t done any harm to the YES vote, probaby quite the opposite. 😀

    213. goldenayr says:

      sausage fingered luddite

      Another Scot who underplays their talents. 😀

    214. Gary says:

      None of these people have a vote. Are there no celebs, z list or otherwise, living in Scotland willing to put their names to this? No?

    215. dennis mclaughlin says:

      I’d love to see what they left on the floor of the editing suite ‘cos ‘they shook me cold’.

    216. goldenayr says:

      Gary

      Why do you think the Nae Chance lot have been trying to get any non-entity to endorse their view?

      Who launched YES Scotland?

      Or were you asleep?

    217. goldenayr says:

      dennis McLaughlin

      I can see it now…

      “Eh?You want me to say what?That’s just not believable.Tell you what,I’ll just draw a turnip in a kilt.That’ll tell them how I feel.”

    218. dennis mclaughlin says:

      KendoSenseiMaster,on the Indie site you cannae order multiple items…..I had to make 2 separate PayPal transactions to purchase 2 ceramic badges…..bugger me!, they don’t make things easy fur us auld yin any more ;).

    219. Greannach says:

      Where are Cannon and Ball when you need them? “I’m a nonentity, kick start my career” might be a suitable title for this parade of celebs.

    220. Lesley-Anne says:

      dennis mclaughlin says:

      KendoSenseiMaster,on the Indie site you cannae order multiple items…..I had to make 2 separate PayPal transactions to purchase 2 ceramic badges…..bugger me!, they don’t make things easy fur us auld yin any more ;).

      dennis, when I ordered stuff from kendo I paid the price for two items, via Paypal, I then e-mailed kendo and explained that I had paid the price for two items but only made one payment. It seemed the easiest way to go for me. I hope I’ve explained it easily enough for you to understand cause I’m starting to think I’m confusing myself now. 😛

    221. Lesley-Anne says:

      Greannach says:

      Where are Cannon and Ball when you need them? “I’m a nonentity, kick start my career” might be a suitable title for this parade of celebs.

      Forget Cannon and Ball Greannach, where is Paul Daniels?

      I’ve seen photo fits on Twitter with a phrase *ahem* attributed to him saying that if we vote YES he will never come to Scotland again. Now surely seeing him with his wee bit of card begging us to stay otherwise he won’t ever visit our country again would have been a sure fire vote winner… for US! 😛

    222. goldenayr says:

      Howye LA?

      Are the beeb jist allowin pro union comments now or whit?

    223. Barney Thomson says:

      What a collection of c-listers, hasbeens and nobodies.

      On the other hand, I have it on the good authority of my 4yo grand-daughter that A-list world celebrity superstar Peppa Pig and her friends are strong supporters of Scottish independence and that she intends to make her home there after 19 September. It apparently has a lot to do with the higher quality of the muddy puddles.

    224. Nicola says:

      Maybe i’m just dense but i only know 1 of these people.
      (the burd from gmtv….dont know her name though)

    225. Lesley-Anne says:

      Hiya goldenayr I’ve no idea about the beeb, I try and avoid it like the plague. 😉

    226. SquareHaggis says:

      Had a wee shuftie around the BBM Campaigns webpage, digging down through their “who we’ve helped” section I was drawn toward the Institute for Security and Resilience Studies site where an interesting “Big Beast” appears on the Staff list.

      http://www.ucl.ac.uk/isrs/about/who

      Hmmmm….

    227. Jim says:

      @goldenayr
      Seems that way, none of my comments stayed up on one of their hys yesterday, off topic, no campaigning, etc.

    228. goldenayr says:

      Jim

      No matter what our friend LA says(how d’ye do a raspberry on Microsoft?)The beeb are evidently controlling the input to their progs.

      Interesting fact,they only used to allow comments from “professionals” in their mail only days.

    229. goldenayr says:

      Jim

      Don’t worry.

      In one comment all I said was “The MSM are lying”.

      Didn’t even reach moderation,instantly removed.

    230. Grendel says:

      Is No2 Kenneth Williams daughter?

    231. goldenayr says:

      Grendel

      Well tat would be a miracle on it’s own.

      KW caring about someone other than himself.

      Mind you,the sentiments on the vid are similar.

    232. Grendel says:

      The real question is who made this crap and who is paying for it?

    233. superjaxx says:

      The problem is this is probably the first and last time they will ever think about Scotland. Whilst the celebrities on the Yes video actually have something invested in the future of Scotland, which gives it its edge.

      Its such a cheap gimmick.

    234. superjaxx says:

      The bloke who couldn’t spell laughed was the CIA big boss in Homeland

    235. donald anderson says:

      If Jimmy Saville was alive he’d turn over in his Union Jack celebrity status.

      The EBC does its best to wrap up every sport celeb in a Butcher’s Apron and every programme with a Union Jack stuck in at some point. Wouldn’t like to do a Union Jack count for a snap 24 hours, or the words Brit, Britain, Great Britain, or UK.

    236. john king says:

      I thought Ross Kemp was going to do this

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEe0qqPAC6E

      Somehow I wish he had.

    237. Grant says:

      All BBC employees?

    238. john king says:

      ” Dan Snow you big BetterTogetherBBC nepotistic wet fart?”

      Oohhahahahahaha
      I think I just shat myself hahahahahaa.

      Mrs Grimble
      Someone with a better avatar than mine, damnit,
      If I paid the genius who painted that masterpiece do you think they would do one for me, pretty please. 🙂

      ” Eddie Izzard but he is fat.”

      Oh please tell me that wasnt a typo Handclapping.

      David Agnew @6.49pm

      In a nutshell,
      couldnt have put it better myself David.

      “It’s the bams that put most of the maybes off.”

      Care to name the “bams” your referring to Andy?

      “Is No2 the woman who used to collect folk’s shite in tupperware boxes?”

      Im not even sure I want to ask what channels your watching Wes Wemysss

    239. I’m sure when Iam Rush was picking up his MBE and Gareth Edwards was picking up his CBE the parasite who was handing them out would have whispered in their ear and said “we own you now”.

      This is just the establishment calling these servants of the British Empire in for a little bit of pay back.

      Wouldn’t it be nice to have asked some Welsh people who were waiting at the food bank or have just had their benefits stopped rather than these millionaires.

    240. cynicalHighlander says:

      Meanwhile down on the funny farm farmer Clegg is vowing to scrap the spare field subsidy what a midden.

    241. Gordon Barclay says:

      I’m afraid that Alexicon has been misled. There were no plans drawn up by Churchill or anybody else to abandon Scotland in the event of a Nazi invasion. This ‘fact’was invented in the Mail on Sunday on 24 March 2013 and repeated in the Daily Express the next day. This in turn was picked up by a number of blogs in the days following, including Wings over Scotland. The journalist misrepresented the research in my book, If Hitler Comes. It was clear that the main invasion was going to be in SE England and any German attack elsewhere would have been designed to draw the small British reserves away from the main invasion site.
      The truth is that Scotland was garrisoned and that large-scale defences were built here: that’s what my book is about.

    242. Robert Peffers says:

      @Susan Goldwyre says: 16 July, 2014 at 10:38 pm
      “Top “a” lister on my internet search was J K.

      I shouldn’t need to point this out to you, Dear Lady. However, here goes. You are the perfect example of why the vast majority of commenter on these pages find the video hilariously comical.

      You have totally missed the entire point and that loud whooshing sound that has puzzled you is the point passing, at very high speed, over your head. The point being the celebrity status of the person in the video is neither here nor there. In every single case the celebrity gives no reasoned points regarding the merits or demerits of the independence question.

      I’ll put it even more bluntly for you, for you obviously are of the opinion the celebrity status of the , “Celeb”, is of paramount importance. If Jesus Christ himself were to resurrect and opine I should vote to not end the United Kingdom, (while showing him due respect), my first words to him would by, WHY?

      Get it now? I will listen respectfully to anyone, from a homeless rough sleeper down on his/her luck to the Queen of Scots herself. That is if they offer their own personal reasons for a YES or NO vote.

      However, “I’m a celebrity – do as I tell you”, gets my total disdain, is laughed at and made fun of.

    243. Not Richard Wilson says:

      Stay where exactly?

      We need a stamp of approval from Westminster politicians to be friends or feel a bond with someone now, do we?

      Westminster and MSM push anti-scots and anti-english agendas because it suits them. Without them, these islands will have a greater bond than we’ve ever had.

    244. Robert Peffers says:

      @donald anderson says: 17 July, 2014 at 6:04 am:
      “The EBC does its best to wrap up every sport celeb in a Butcher’s Apron and every programme with a Union Jack stuck in at some point. Wouldn’t like to do a Union Jack count for a snap 24 hours, or the words Brit, Britain, Great Britain, or UK.”

      The strange thing is that both sides of this idiotic propaganda campaign are being really stupid. The Butcher’s Apron is as much the Kingdom of Scotland’s flag as it is that of the Kingdom of England.

      This highlights the fact that Westminster is the de facto Parliament of England, (the country), and not a separate United Kingdom Parliament. Westminster has, after all, divided the United Kingdom up as four countries but with only three of them with devolved powers.

      It tells the true story that the referendum is indeed a Scotland vs England matter and in no way in reality is it Scotland leaving a still existent rUnited Kingdom. The true story is as told by David Mundell, Scotland, (and by extension both Wales and N.I.), were extinguished by Acts of Union that renamed the Kingdom of England the United Kingdom“. If that was not the Westminster Better Together view why is there no devolved Parliament of the Country of England?

    245. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Croompenstein (and Grouse Beater).

      That clip is from “Brass Eye”.

      This clip (below) is probably right up there with the “Paedogeddon” feature. It does feature a number of celebrities making an absolute fool of themselves.
      Brass Eye’s exposé on “Cake”, a made up, bisturbial cranabolic amphetemoid, drug…

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0tMvxV-GC4

    246. Croompenstein says:

      @Brian Doonthetoon – LOL I remember that one genius.. 🙂

    247. Peter Mechan says:

      Oh dear, I know 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 10 & 11….worrying!

    248. Greannach says:

      Maybe it’s just a screen test for the next edition of All-Star Mr & Mrs, and we’re just oversensitive.

    249. donald anderson says:

      Sir Rolph just missed being a Bitter Together celebrity then.

    250. Bugger (the Panda) says:

      Just heard Danny Alexander on R 4 and wondered what was wrong.

      He is turning into an Englishman.

      His English pronunciation is not what I have heard of him recently.

      Guess he is getting ready to be integrated into Mother England post the Yes vote.

    251. Random Scotsman says:

      The guy in the film in the wheelchair is Stephen Hawking’s stunt double in the heavily fictionalised film of his life, Knievel Hawking.

    252. Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      “It was clear that the main invasion was going to be in SE England and any German attack elsewhere would have been designed to draw the small British reserves away from the main invasion site.”

      Isn’t that just a nicer way of saying the same thing, though?

    253. Chic McGregor says:

      If they are going to play Scottish Silly-Berties, we win hands down.

      Just compare the world of Pop music for a start

      Yes:
      Biffy Clyro
      Franz Ferdinand
      Paolo Nutini
      Belle and Sebastiane
      Deacon Blue
      Eddie Reader
      Annie Lennox

      No:
      Sharleen Spiteri
      K T Tunstall?

      Film Stars:

      Yes:
      Shir Sean
      Brian Cox
      Alan Cummings
      Gerard Butler
      Tilda Swinton
      Peter Mullen

      No:
      Ewen McGregor (wavering)
      and err, Ewen McGregor.

      TV Stars:

      Yes:
      Ken Stott
      Alex Totten
      Robbie Coltraine
      Elaine C Smith
      David Hayman

      No:
      John Barrowman (Scottish?)
      The Krankies
      David Tennant

      Could go on with journalists, authors etc.

    254. Gordon Barclay says:

      Hi Stuart. No, not just a nicer way of saying the same thing – two different things:
      (1) the truth, the British high command wasn’t going to be tricked into sending its reserves in the wrong direction, risking losing the war;
      (2) the ‘factoid’ in its various guises – “Scotland would have been abandoned to the Germans in the event of a Second World War invasion” [Daily Express] or “Churchill had drawn up plans to abandon Scotland to the nazis if they had invaded Scotland first” [Alexon above] or “It has also recently been revealed through declassified documents that, had Scotland been invaded by Nazi forces in the Second World War, Scotland would have been abandoned militarily by the British.”[Newsnet Scotland] There are lots of these, all over the place and I am fed up being named as the person responsible for ‘revealing’ this ‘fact’.

      The ‘factoid’ might fit with how people want to see things, but it’s not true. Scotland was garrisoned and had heavy defences and gun emplacements built round the coast and inland. There was never any suggestion that that garrison would be withdrawn – every area Command in Britain wanted more troops but there weren’t the troops with equipment and transport to give everyone what they wanted.

    255. SquareHaggis says:

      Re: onward from my earlier post @ 1.02am.

      Also noticed an increasingly familiar name that keeps cropping up from this source:

      http://www.ucl.ac.uk/isrs/about/advisoryboard

      Coincidence?

    256. Greannach says:

      I see one of the I’m a Celeb supporters has just signed up as Kookie Spookmonster. I wonder how many vile nasty cybernats have signed up under amusing noms de plume. Just wondering…

    257. Wee poor stupid Scotsman says:

      Not one of your finest, Stuart. Does belittling and ridiculing people such as Tony Robinson, Ian Rush and Dan Snow really advance the cause of the Yes campaign?

    258. Susan Goldwyre says:

      Mr Peffers, there is no point that I was missing. I merely pointed out how funny it was that so many commentators knew who the celebs were. I find that amusing since the jist of the post was to say “who are they?” But if your rant made you feel better then I am pleased for you.

    259. Gordon Barclay says:

      Here’s more on the ‘Scotland was going to be abandoned to the Nazis’ factoid:
      http://www.thinkscotland.org/thinkpolitics/articles.html?read_full=12675&article=www.thinkscotland.org

    260. donald anderson says:

      I remember reading that Churchill intended to replace the population of the Highlands with people from the South. For the life of me I cannot find this quote in my pile of books and articles, or its source. Anyone out there care to help?

    261. Gizmo says:

      After the hatchet job Tony Robinson did on William Wallace he has an almighty cheek pretending to like this country. A wee man with a big chip on his shoulder.



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