Wings Over Scotland

Nice one Chris

Nice to see Hamish make a return.

Ms Patel pity her actions are not prity. She is a hard nosed tory typical tory – having fled herself you might expect her to be sympathetic – but she is just another self-centred self-serving tory – bit like her old boss Cameron.

Any chance Chris of another book of your cartoons – they are wonderful – always on form.

Rev, look at your anger & opinions over 10-years ago and thankfully you committed to making a difference, and what a difference you made. We need you in the fight and working parallel to ALBA, as you did for the SNP over all those years, will help give Scotland that final push over the line we desperately need. Please enjoy your well deserved break and consider sticking with it. We need you going forward.

link to wingsoverscotland.com

An immigration policy can be compassionate or
not, as can the dealings of refugees, it is a choice. however it is not choice made by us in our own country rather it is a choice enforced on us by a dis-compassionate, corrupt, racist state. and that is the problem.

it takes a certain type of stupid to over look that akenaton or a racist.

Call me a romantic but what we witnessed on Thursday was people power at work. The state was defeated because the community acted in defence of their own. Real people taking action and they won.

If communities can win here, then what more can communities achieve with regard to their environment, their housing and their education if they can organise and make a stand?

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Akenaton may or may not be a racist, but don’t assume he is because he says things you don’t like. The left abuses the word to the point of its destruction. And no, it isn’t obvious or self-evident from Akenaton’s post that he’s a racist.

A little off topic but am I the only person who perceives a racist undertone to labelling Covid-19 variants based on the country they were first noted by science?

Calling something the Indian strain is completely misleading scientifically as there is no way of knowing how or where this variant appeared. Calling it the ‘Indian variant’ also encourages the racist idiots to target Indian people in our communities.

Like so much of the narrative with Covid, we find messaging from the State that is far from neutral or science based.

Are the Tories deliberately stoking the fire of racism … (rhetorical question I guess)

“Immigration policy cannot be devolved because it has to be the same everywhere”

That is nonsense. The different countries of the European Union may have some elements of immigration policy that are similar, but they are not identical. And why should they be?

The UK is a political union much in the same way the EU is. I don’t see why Scotland, that has diametrically opposed demographic needs to those of England, has to have the exact same racist policies that England wants for itself. Why should England’s wants and needs be considered in Scotland anymore important than Scotland’s wants and needs?

The meat of the matter here is that it is a bunch of England MPs who hold no democratic mandate whatsoever on Scotland and who were not elected by anybody in Scotland to act or speak on our behalf who are determining an immigration policy that is deliberately toxic to Scotland.

If those England MPs cannot be arsed in listening to us and respect our country’s needs and wants, why the hell should we bother listen to them, never mind respect their decisions?

Hamish is back hame:-)

Douglas MacMillan

Absolutely the labelling is fueling prejudice and it’s intentional too. Sky News was going on about all the hotspots of the variant. The constant emphasis was on areas of England with large populations from SE Asia. This is despite the fact that the figures used are two weeks old and the variant is probably present all over the country.

The reprehensible thing is that the communities in areas like Bolton (just like those in Middlesbourough before) are being used to carry the can for government inaction. Flights from SE Asia could have been limited and additional checks made but no, it was business as usual.

I’ll let you know next week, Breeks. One thing we can say though is that this has now been properly checked by the best experts in the UK and, in fact, some of the best experts in the world.

Believe it or not, I worked with one of them years ago.

One thing Holyrood has become very good at in recent years is using lawyers to deny justice. We saw that at the Fabiani Inquiry too; I remember James Wolffe sitting there smiling as if he knew he was untouchable.

Basically, this school is ‘non-compliant’ which means it is illegal and unsafe. They’ve all known that (including the City Council’s lawyers) since before they built the place.

akenaton,

You won’t like this comparison but what you are doing here is engaging in precisely the same approach as what has become known as the woke.

The objective facts are:

The two individuals at the centre of this event are not illegal immigrants. They may, or may not be determined to be via legal due process, which has not yet taken place. They were not hiding from anyone but instead living in plain sight assisting the local religious community in efforts to deal with food poverty whilst due process took its course.

If the immigration service wished to speak with them whilst proper due process takes its course there are well established norms and procedures for doing so. Norms and procedures which have been developed over a long period of time and which had their origin in a document produced in the year 1215.

But no. What the State did was send in the heavy mob to present a false picture, known as fake news, that they were dealing with two desperate fugitives.

In short; the State effectively, via its actions, made a very public accusation in a crude attempt to circumnavigate the due process principles and standards which were not benignly handed from on high but were hard fought for – in some cases by people who considered themselves “Conservative”. Conservative in the sense of conserving something of value which has its value as a result of the struggles to achieve it.

This is exactly the process used by those who kick the arse out of everything who have taken over the woke agenda. An allegation being sufficient to equate to automatic guilt without the need for hard fought for principles and standards of due process such as innocent until proven guilty, right a defence and objective evidence based decision making and I which rather than subjective based opinion and feeling.

And this is precisely what you,akenaton are engaged in. Whether you realise it or not.

A recent poster, by the name of Fearghas, on the Gordon Dangerfield site posted this BTL observation which succinctly sums up the link between the authoritarian rabid right and the woke so called “progressives”:

“Thank you Gordon for this bravely assertive and highly relevant blog post. Of course the Gender Recognition Act will be duly enforced by the Hate Crime Act. Thus arises an intriguing ‘binary’ relationship between extreme individualistic subjectivism and extreme state authoritarianism. Assertion of non-negotiable pseudo-sacrosanct narcissistic power is common to both. Objective law as irreducible sphere of reality is subverted by arbitrary personalism. Might determines right. Autocracy of self-ID is mirrored by autocracy on high.”

You are part of a mob. A mob being played by authoritarians who are seeking to trash everything you imply you believe in. Now it’s your choice whether or not you remaian as part of that mob or not. However, as the author of this blog site has been pointing out for some time (even though some wannabes like the recently created jaggy blog don’t get it) there is no opting out of this issue.

Because it’s one which transcends the specific issues in which it plays an active and negative part – whether it’s immigration, independence, racism, #MeToo, sex/gender, whatever.

The question is, and not just for you but for anyone and everyone, is who are you going to turn to for support when the malign power of the Faustian Pact Fearghus has identified turns it’s attention to you?

Truth be known, I think much of the corruption has it’s roots in incompetence. When a consultant or specialist screws up, if he’s not crucified for his error, he’s ‘owe one’ to all the other consultants, and he’s forevermore obliged to keep his trap shut if and when they screw up.

That’s why much of the corruption is at it’s rawest whenever there are new businesses trying to open up or expand. They are unknown quantities, and thus pose a threat and cause instability in the greedy wee cliques which jealously proliferate wherever there is a teat to suckle providing access to public funding.

I wasn’t aware, but it came as absolutely no surprise to me that Sturgeon was nearly struck off as a lawyer, but some “deal” was done to save face, and she was shuffled out the way without any lasting stigma on her career. I’m old fashioned. If someone deserves to be struck off, then have them struck off.

Ah but, people can learn from their mistakes… people deserve a second chance. True, I agree… for mistakes, but in my experience, most rogues are not being rogues by mistake.

The UK as a whole has a problem that the easiest way to get rid of incompetence in a big corporation or government is by promoting it. It’s often cheaper than sacking it, (especially if it knows where the skeletons are buried). I think the current SNP is just one example of the end product produced by that mentality. Doing the “right thing” is a totally alien concept and the least of their concerns. Their priority is getting out the shit, not cleaning it up.

Oh, and don’t waste your time or breath going to Regulator or Ombudsman either… but that’s another story.

The Times: –

‘Women must have the right to question transgender identity without being abused, stigmatised or risking losing their job, the new head of Britain’s equalities watchdog has warned.

In her first interview since taking office, the incoming chairwoman of the Equalities and Human Rights Commission said it was “entirely reasonable” for people to challenge the biological status of women who were born as men.’

link to archive.is

Nice one Chris, I just wish this kind of defiance and attitude could be transferred to the Scottish populous in general when it coms to independence and and forcing sturgeon to act on it.

Sturgeon aside, we’ll need to take our independence for Westminster will never willingly agree to lets us leave this unfit for purpose union. So acts of defiance aimed at Westminster will need to become more common place.

When I think of what the poor Palestinian folk are having to and have put up with for decades, yet they still stand tall, with stones against state of the art weapons, I realise that we in Scotland need to become far more pro-active on the independence front if we want to see an independent Scotland.

“Kenmure St looked awfully staged to me”

I must admit that the fact that it took place on Sturgeon’s constituency didn’t pass me either.

I don’t think it is only about those permits they are trying to distract, Daisy. I think the powers that be are desperate to find ways to restore Sturgeon’s destroyed credibility as pro independent FM to push ALBA away and to restore the patience of yes supporters. Patience that this procrastinating queen has already exhausted.

For as long as she is seen as lukewarm, too slow in progressing it or allergic to independence, there is a need in the political spectrum for ALBA and more and more people are going to look to ALBA for an alternative. That is what they are trying to stop.

I suspect we are going to see an awful lot of similar staged events on the run to the council elections to whitewash her allergy to independence.

But the problem with all these staged events being used to prop up Sturgeon’s pro indy credibility is that they fall flat at the minimum scrutiny:

This woman has had control of the absolute majority of Scotland’s seats in Westminster for SIX YEARS. For the same length of time, her party has had the control of the absolute majority of FPTP seats in Holyrood and the highest share of the vote in the list seats too. We all know those unionists only got in by the back door thanks to a flawed system specifically designed to stop the most voted party to hold an absolute majority of the seats.

The reality, is that the Parliament we have today is not that different to the one we had 5 years ago. Our parliament for the last five years could have done everything this woman claims this new parliament can do. We have now, as we had in May 2016 and 5 years before that, a pro indy majority that this woman has wasted.

The mandate we have today for a referendum is not any better than the one we gave the SNP five years ago, mandate that this woman undemocratically and showing utter contempt for the people of Scotland let expire and has now simply brushed under the carpet because this woman could not be arsed in delivering it.

So why all the pomp and ceremony? Why all the faux excitement in the press when things have not moved an inch since May 2016?

I think it is because of ALBA. They simply cannot afford at this point to disappoint yes supporters even more, giving them a reason to turn their eyes on to ALBA and crush the SNP in the upcoming council elections and the GE after that.

It is in her hands TODAY, as it has been in her hands for the last SIX YEARS, to change that immigration policy for Scotland. But she has chosen not to.

That van turned up in Glasgow to remove those two people because she and her Justice Minister could not be arsed in doing anything to stop that happening for SIX YEARS, knowing that Scotland’s demographics are at risk.

She appears to be quite relaxed and happy for the British state to continue foisting toxic policies over us so then, without bothering to lift a finger to remediate the problem, she can claim credit for the work done by the communities in Scotland.

This is exactly what she has been doing with COVID. Because it is the health professionals and the people working in Contact tracing who have been breaking their backs doing all the hard work to try to keep us safe. And they have been set to fail by this woman keeping the borders continuously open so at the same time these health professionals were desperately working to keep the virus levels low and even to eradicate it as the procrastinating queen announced at one point, this woman was letting more virus to come into Scotland ensuring those health professionals could never eradicate the virus. Yet, it is this woman who is happily getting all the credit for the hard work of all those people.

It was great to see the Polis being so passive.
Doing as the UK Home Office instructed but with no malice towards the public.
I wonder how the Glasgow scenario would have played out in Croydon. Polar opposite I would suspect.

Daisy Walker says:
15 May, 2021 at 9:55 am
Sorry folks – I’m not buying the Kenmure St incident.

Yeah maybe… I can see where you’re coming from, but I’ve also read the protest had it’s origins with neighbours in the first instance. They started the ball rolling, and the protest had genuinely organic roots, and genuinely resonated with their community. I’m sure the news clip I watched said they’d been living there ten years, so it does seem credible with a significant back story and build up… so I dunno.

Must confess, I do want it to be true. The way things are going, it’s not a shot in the arm for COVID I need, it’s a wee bit faith restored that Scotland isn’t too far down the drain to save itself.

“UK policies being imposed on Scotland by a government Scotland emphatically rejected just a week ago and Scotland not being able to determine its own immigration policy to address a very different situation to the UK’s”.

It’s puzzling. Scotland is part if the UK. The Law applies everywhere, all the time. A local election doesn’t alter either of these positions. You are talking utter tosh.

Breeks says:
15 May, 2021 at 8:51 am

Dave Somerville says:
15 May, 2021 at 7:09 am
And do headlines like this in the front page of the National not just infuriate you?

Not any more. It’s just the same con on intravenous drip. I’m tuned out now, just scrolling past, like you do with all the other trolls.

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Same!

It’s quite relaxing to be tuned out.

Lee Floydd,

How many times does it need to be Janet and John’d for you?

The law in this case – as in due process rights applicable to everyone on these islands – was most definitely was broken by the State and the Immigration Service.

These two individuals are currently going through a process of law known as due process. It involves objective evidence and principles of innocent until proven guilty. That process has not been properly completed.

By seeking to circumnavigate that process the State has not only made a mockery of the law it is also there to adhere to it is signalling very clearly that no one, not even you, is safe from the arbitrary exercise of unfettered power.

Those who upheld the law and protected due process rights of everyone were those who took to the streets.

So my question is do you, like the woke, actually believe in the rule of law and due process only for yourself and those you subjectively approve of and bigger everybody else or not.

Your call son.

Daisy Walker

The Conservatives are not going to stop immigration, quite the opposite. Every immigrant competing for jobs pushes traditional Labour voters to the right as they think the Tories are going to curb immigration. Cheap labour and votes it’s a win-win situation for the right.

‘To get to the stage where an applicant is considered for deportation, there are many legal and administrative hurdles to clear. Everyone rejected claimant for asylum in the UK lodges an appeal. Judicial reviews inevitably follow, not to mention the involvement of local MPs. If, after all this, the Home Office has decided to remove someone, you can be sure it is only because all the legal avenues open to the claimants have been firmly and permanently closed.’

Alison Thewlis is the local MP. She’ll be able to clear this-up. She was there; has anyone asked her?

I think Mia and Daisy almost certainly have the Kenmure Street incident right: stage-managed by the Constituency MSP for Glasgow South, otherwise known as ‘First Minister’. If that is correct, instead of patting ourselves on the back for the ‘good’ (i.e. laid-back) ‘behaviour’ of the Glasgow Polis, shouldn’t their inaction be cause for concern? Isn’t it another sign of the politicisation of the Polis?

If so, what happened in Kenmure Street might have to be interpreted as yet another sign that Polis Scotland acts on the orders of its political masters, instead of objectively and even-handedly applying the rule of law.

I hope that such is not the case, of course. However, whenever there are signs of it, proper journalism ought to be investigating it. And, whenever necessary, exposing it. The Polis as an arm of the state, a mere tool of executive political power, is one of the surest signs of anti-democratic authoritarianism. All totalitarian regimes use this kind of thing.

ALBA really has to start campaigning very publicly, and as quickly as possible, for the separation of powers. Not only as a basic clause to be embedded in a future Constitution for Scotland, but even now. It needs to be made applicable to the current Scottish administration (which likes to call itself ‘the Scottish Government’ although, in its current state, many of us might prefer to desist from according it such a name).

ALBA may have no representative to raise such matters in Holyrood, but they should raise it whenever and wherever they can. That is, in every public forum where they can make their voice heard, and that includes through her two MPs at Westminster.

I expect everyone in ALBA is aware of this, that they may be gathering as much information as they can on it, making sure they have got their facts absolutely right before launching out (which they may to some extent already have done), and keeping their powder dry until the moment becomes appropriate. I appreciate that the media blackout on ALBA makes for enormous strategic difficulties in planning such matters. Nevertheless, the moment for a sustained public campaign on this issue cannot be far away, and I do hope it will achieve high profile soon.

This is in no way a criticism of ALBA, merely a suggestion for ALBA’s further consideration.

Daisy Walker @ 9:55

“Kenmure St looked awfully staged to me, a ‘win’ for oor wee Nicla, and a great big distraction from the Truss deal.”

It also seems rather hypocritical that another pro-independence Scottish national elected majority of SNP/Green MSP’s whinge about UK immigration policy at the very same time as they are pledging their oath/affirmation to that same terrible UK regime for another 5 years and also taking their pay from it, instead of effectively deploying what is now the 6th Scottish national pro-independence elected majority (3 @ Holyrood, 3 @ Westminster) to declare and begin negotiating independence on behalf of the sovereign Scottish people.

How many nationalist parliamentary majorities does it take for independence? In most ex colonies one was enough, and they didn’t even have Scotland’s advantage of an established national sovereignty or a treaty to withdraw from.

@Douglas MacMillan says:
15 May, 2021 at 9:13 am
“A little off topic but am I the only person who perceives a racist undertone to labelling Covid-19 variants based on the country they were first noted by science?”

How does the ‘Kent Variant’ fit into this theory.

Lee Floyd says:
15 May, 2021 at 10:31 am

Did you not read David Hansell’s post at 09.57? It has not been determined that the immigrants were illegal and due process has not been followed. Should we just suspend habeas corpus too? Wait until they come for you.

Non PC view i know but exactly WHY do we need immigrants from culturally dissimilar areas? To do shitty jobs? Now isn’t THAT racist? Why not just encourage the people who ARE already here to stay and maybe have bigger families?

Last Thursdays incident in Kenmure Street was a fine demonstration of who is really sovereign. When it comes to the crunch its us the ordinary folk who are sovereign and don’t let em fool you otherwise. The British establishment ruled a vadt empire for hundreds of years by clever bluff. They fooled the natives that they were too poor too stupid to rule themselves. This deception continues in Scotland. Sadly many people still buy into it but more and more are waking up. When the number of aware people reaches critical point the UK is finished. Its only a matter of time.

Wee Chid says:
15 May, 2021 at 11:35 am

The correct legal process was followed.

Chris ,

Thank you , An excellent cartoon once again .

Akenaton
They have switched off
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Well observed.
The trick is how to switch them back on again.
That is the task ahead.

Steven, Switching women on is well above my pay grade….these days.

Ruby

It’s a pity then that women are no longer defined by their sex but by their gender.

Women can challenge the biological status of trans women morning, noon and night; all day every day; 24 by 7 and 365 days a year. It’s not going to change anything.

In fact all it will do is distract them while the real work of dismantling their rights, not their biological status continues unopposed.

Dave Somerville says:
15 May, 2021 at 11:48 am
Extraordinary David Millar Arial view video of the Kenmure St incident which forced the Police to retreat.

We urra peepel

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That’s amazing footage!

Are the protesters chanting about refugees?

Are these men refugees or illegal immigrants?

susanXX I agree with every word you say and have done so for years, the UK’s parasitic dependence on immigration is a disgrace and one of the main reasons I support an independent Scotland where families can thrive the kids have jobs and we all develop a measure of National pride. We may all be slightly worse of financially, but socially we will be fulfilling our potential as human beings. My hopes in that direction have taken a battering lately as our people seem to confused to see what is being done to them under the guise of Nationalism.

Unregulated economic immigration is not only bad for us, but even more so for the countries of origin of these people, their best leaving for a new life while their nation and its infrastructure decays around them.

As I said the immigration system is parasitic in nature and was enhanced further by Blair and his supporters.
It seems that the arrest of the two people from Kenmuir St was legal and when we are independent we cannot operate without the process of law. A free Scotland would not and should not allow “mob rule”

Thanks of women everywhere are due to Liz Truss, wish she was a nationalist.
If the UK is split by this ruling, surely even those women with hands over ears will begin to understand?

Another “SNP 1 and 2” arsehole has got the neck to still show her face in Wings.

Have you no shame?

Ruby 12.50

Re, Kenmure video.

For me personally, it put some pride back into my soul.

Sturgeon has drained every ounce of pride I had in my country and this video managed to replace some of it.

We need more people power Demos.

Like a mass demo outside that horrible bastard Sturgeon’s house.

“Are you all so blind, or so biased, as not to be able to appreciate that the Law must be upheld?”

Lee Floyd.

Who’s law might that be, the law of Westminster, why should a foreign country have the say of who can and cannot live in Scotland.

Instead of closing why not relaunch as wings over alba

Dave Somerville says:
15 May, 2021 at 1:31 pm
Ruby 12.50

Re, Kenmure video.

For me personally, it put some pride back into my soul.

Sturgeon has drained every ounce of pride I had in my country and this video managed to replace some of it.

We need more people power Demos.

Like a mass demo outside that horrible bastard Sturgeon’s house.

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Agreed about power demos.

Did the people in that area not vote for the horrible ‘She/Her Bitch’?

Where is the ‘She/Her Bitch’s’ house?

She doesn’t live at Bute House. She only goes there to entertain.

The Scottish Parliament is not sovereign, being devolved
It’s the Scottish people that are sovereign.
The Scottish people are so used to being a underdog. They cannot bring themselves to believe, that it is a powerful instrument.
It’s like a boil on their nose every time they look in a mirror, but they are to scared to Lance it themselves, so go to a quack doctor ( or in this case quack politicians) to remove it with dirty instruments.
The boil on the nose could be removed quite safely and clinically by themselves.
Sovereignty is a boil that stares us in the face everyday,
And the Scots ignore it or go ask for help from quacks, as being in control themselves is a enormous fear,
Bigger than the boil

Ruby

> Are you suggesting that it’s hopeless and we should just give up?

Absolutely not but you have to recognise when you’re being fed bullshit.

Always pay very close attention to the words – weasels don’t get to be Weasel in Chief by being honest.

Sincere apologies to mustelids everywhere.

Ruby 1.48pm

I suppose the main body of the Kenmure crowd came from far and wide, and for that particular occasion they put party Politics aside.

And as for voting Sturgeon back into office, well I’m totally confused on that one.

The irony for the Independence movement is:

The People of Scotland are sovereign – however, the wider Independence movement has NEVER persuaded a majority of that sovereign people to support Independence at the ballot box.

The Tories’ 80-seat majority in the House of Commons, thereafter allows them to continually say “No” to an Independence referendum. Undemocrativ this may be, given the electoral support for Independence, but, this is what the system allows them to do.

The wider Independence movement COULD try embarrassing the Tories into agreeing to an Independence Referendum, however, I do not see this working with the current Tory Party.

It seems quite clear, the Independence movement needs a bit of left-field thinking, to come-up with other ways of breaching the Tories’ dam of resistance.

Back in 1951 Wendy Wood and the rest of the Scottish Covenant Association persuaded 2,000,000 Scots to sign The Scottish Covenant. At the time, the total Scottish Electorate was just over 3,500,000; while the turnout in Scotland was 2,776,333.

Therefore, by any measure the Covenant was supported by over 50|% of the Scottish electorate. The Covenant was only seeking Devolution, rather than Independence, but still, Westminster said “No,” which indicates what will probably happen if an updated Covenant was to be launched, signed and presented to Parliament.

So, thinking out of the box:

Why not a 21st century Covenant, signed by more than 50% of the Sovereign People of Scotland, but, presented to Elizabeth, Queen of Scots, rather than the UK Parliament; reminding the Queen of Scots of her obligation to uphold the rights of the Sovereign People of Scotland.

If nothing else, the international furore which inaction by the Queen of Scots or the UK Parliament might trigger could be a game-changer.

Just to report, butchers aprons flying all over Lanark today. This was a Westminster threat.
Well it has been done yet anything over 6ft requires permission, and this is an SNP council??
make your own mind up, but this will only be the start to ” unionise” Scotland.
By the nefarious Tory Westminster and it’s so called allies.

Just passing it on, as it is likely coming to a place near you.

Socrates MacSporran

Why not a 21st century Covenant, signed by more than 50% of the Sovereign People of Scotland, but, presented to Elizabeth, Queen of Scots, rather than the UK Parliament; reminding the Queen of Scots of her obligation to uphold the rights of the Sovereign People of Scotland.

I really like that idea, Socrates.
But…..

Over the last couple of years, I’ve lost count of the number of covenants I’ve signed. And then nothing ever comes of any of them!

Les Wilson @2:56

I take it the UJ decorations are for Lanark’s forthcoming Lanimers Day event. If so, that would be politicizing what is supposed to be a non-political traditional celebration for the whole town.

Captain Yossarian 2:39pm
I have never broken the law. Not even a parking ticket. But the SG is governing for half the country. As recent events have shown they pick and choose the laws they comply with. And use the Judiciary and Institutions to support them. What an example to the rest of us. What goes round comes round. They will be on the receiving end shortly. On the specifics of this case I am inclined to show compassion.

Tannadice Boy – Can I presume you support the Arabs, sir? On the footballing theme – Remember when Rangers supporters gathered outside Ibrox and George Sq to celebrate winning the league? John Swinney said the silence from inside Ibrox was deafening. Sturgeon girned something about putting the lives of the police needlessly at risk.

Can you explain why this is somehow different? Why this should be applauded by all right thinking Scots? I think it’s just the same, but I might be wrong. As you say, they pick and choose the laws that support their purpose and do they really have any feckin purpose nowadays?

A better use of our sovereignty would metaphorical kick a lot of doors down and into oblivion.
Including the woke laws and hate crime bill.

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@Captain Yossarian 4:00pm
You are right in the context of the law both events are wrong. Yes I am Arab but a fitba supporter in general. So what happens when you contextualised the law, we can see on our TV now. Rangers supporters marching towards George Square. What did you expect when hundreds were out in Pollocksheilds yesterday. The law applies to everybody or nobody. Of course Nickla and the SNP trashed the law. Reap the consequences.

Laws and being equal?

I’m neither Catholic or a Celtic fan but I’m appalled
at how a few weeks ago the police watched and joined
in with Drunk Rangers fans drinking in public, singing
sectarian songs, smashing up George Square’s benches,
Letting off incendiary devices, littering, fighting, urinating
and breaking the Covid Lockdown rules by travelling out
of their Council area and being in close contact with uncontrolled crowds.

Maybe the Unionist Police were just caught out by surprise with all this so they
made sure all the warnings went out that this couldn’t happen again and with
Glasgow remaining in very strict Covid conditions, due to an outbreak of the most
transmittable Covid variant from India they just couldn’t condone it?

It’s all happening again right now.
It happened last night too.

We can feel save that our Police force are picking up overtime again in order to watch it being replayed.

Thankfully the Police and SNP council can trace, prosecute and imprison the organiser of an
AUOB March in the same city for starting a peaceful, controlled and joyous March a little earlier
than originally planned.

So there we have it AUOB marchers, next time break as many laws as you can, be threatening
and abusive and the police and SNP Council will warm to you!

As to our population growth, one of the factors that goes totally unrecognised is the changes in law that structure a family unit,
If women no longer have support of their partners financially, or the governments, looking after their own children becomes second priority to having to go out to work to earn a crust, they often can only support one child,
These hidden changes in law have altered the family unit.
when I was growing up dads went out to work with a sense of pride that they could look after and support their own families, buy their own cars, and have hobbies. Supply extra food from their own gardens and maybe a few hens and eggs.
The very fabric is torn asunder when a man can not hold his head up with pride because he has now become redundant, from work, from his family, from a unit that has taken place for thousands of years, and having a sense of purpose and belonging within his family unit taken away from him.
As to the woman of the home, they no longer stay within the house during the day as women have had to become the supporters of the household finances, when a child falls mum is not there, it’s a stranger that picks them up, when a child needs advise, mum and dad are no longer there, it’s a stranger that feeds them the advice, when you’re child is ready to learn sex eduecation from a loving caring family unit, mother and father are not at home or in the garden, it’s schools and governments that give you’re child sex advice.
And we can see how dangerous that is when it’s out of control with woke agendas. the connections, between sons and daughters, mothers and fathers has been eroded with purpose,
you’re children are being raised by the authorities, they are no longer in a family unit.
Families units used to be larger in numbers, the parents had the time to share the input of of raising their children.
The answer does not lie with importing other parents and children to our shores, to become as badly treated here as we treat our own family units.
The answer to increase the population of Scotland starts with decent homes and a sense of pride in what parents can achieve and security for children in a family to grow and thrive within,
The safety of anyone in the family should be protected by laws and punishable accordingly for the families benefit.
But not to tear families out of each other’s arms to place them in possible further danger of abuse or child molesters in woke safe spaces.
The Family should be reinstated to its original status that worked for thousands of years, not this broken disjointed version of where the government raise you’re children like in China.

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Ruby @ 4.38
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It could be a waste of time if we don’t have freedom of speech to discuss immigration concerns.

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Now on that we are in complete agreement 🙂

If we want our population to grow, then we have to treat families with a much higher regard and respect, give them houses without mould, decent gardens and green parks to play in with safety, help financially to establish, work or self employment help up the ladder,
By growing our families and employment we grow our economy.
Importing other parents and children into the same mess through immigration is like putting wallpaper over giant cracks.

No doubt I’ll be accused of straying into the dodgy area of eugenics… But I would have concerns over the intellect of any offspring produced if mating with someone that thought #BothVotesSNP was a good idea…

Anyway, due to the continuing modern clearances occurring round my way resulting in an abundance of empty holiday homes or locals moved on and houses now occupied with old wrinkly Tory voters from darn south, it’s highly unlikely this will be an issue.

“Sorry folks – I’m not buying the Kenmure St incident.”

Daisy Walker

I am with you Daisy. I have seen posts on Twitter claiming NS was informed in advance – that doesn’t sit with me. This has all the trademarks of “games being played”.

So when we march on holyrood we will be protected

Liz g says:
15 May, 2021 at 5:16 pm
James Che @ 4.52
While I’m sure you dont mean to James you comment horrified me.
Going backwards is not the answer.
Between you and Ruby you seem to have both suggested putting women back into being dependent on marriage and breeding the new Scots we need.

Reply

Now! Now! Liz stop twisting what I said.

I made no mention of marriage.

Who is going to breed the new Scots if it’s not people who have been women all their lives?

Sure ‘transmen’ could probably have babies but risky if they are taking high doses of testosterone.

I was just suggesting that people who have been women all their lives who are prepared to reproduce hence increasing the population should be treated with more respect.

Basically I’m thinking those people might want to go on strike. No rights for people who have been women all their lives – no babies.

PS What is the politically correct term for a person with a womb?

Douglas MacMillan says:
15 May, 2021 at 9:13 am

Quote:-“A little off topic but am I the only person who perceives a racist undertone to labelling Covid-19 variants based on the country they were first noted by science?

Calling something the Indian strain is completely misleading scientifically as there is no way of knowing how or where this variant appeared. Calling it the ‘Indian variant’ also encourages the racist idiots to target Indian people in our communities.

Like so much of the narrative with Covid, we find messaging from the State that is far from neutral or science based.

Are the Tories deliberately stoking the fire of racism … (rhetorical question I guess)”
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Are you really serious? or have been in a closet for the last 12 months or so?

..you’ll find it’s named after where the variant is IDENTIFIED.
IE Kent variant actually was in France before the UK but was identified in, wait for it, KENT. Apt thread to be discussing virus mutation and spread don’t you think?

Ref link to bbc.co.uk

PS don’t even THINK of calling anything the Wuhan virus.

Dave Somerville says:
15 May, 2021 at 7:04 pm
Ruby. 6.41pm

“PS What is the politically correct term for a person with a womb?”

That would be “A Burd”.

Reply

A hen? 🙂

Ruby @ 6.41
I didn’t twist your words Ruby, I said between the two of you the impression was James’s wanted the family put back to how it used to be and you seemed to say that we should look to breeding new Scots.
And since it was in answer to an immigration post it looked like your preference.

I can indeed say only women have children as I suspect you knew fine well I would.
But I cannot say only Scots women can produce new Scottish weans to solve our population problem , as that’s just stupit in so many ways Wings won’t last long enough to list them.
Also take note Ruby…
I’m not going to deflect onto Gender from immigration past here , so the others will just have to judge for themselves which conversation they want to have.
As will you …

Liz g,
I am a woman, born a woman comment on my husbands old site,
I bought up my family when the change was taken place between families have the say and guidance over their children and the state taken over the roll. And just as Ruby says don’t twist my words.
When I raised my children I had a choice I could voluntarily make to be a mum and raise my children in a good and respectful way to others, or I could work part time once they started school,
The most important point is I had a choice how to live my life as my mother did before me,
My mother wanted a big family as she had been an only child and had a lonely childhood, she raised eight children and was self employed running bed and breakfast, in a 1700s hotel, my dad worked in the open air and enjoyed gardening and fishing,
Very contented people and lots of laughter, if that is going backwards I am all for it.
I watch my daughter having to through these new Modern woke agendas at work in a council office, , as well as within the school with my granddaughter, what is wrong with old fashioned values and family units, they have been on the go for thousands of years and kept our population going even in spite of the highland clearances and the state trying to reduce our population,
I worked two part time jobs while raising my children, I was not stuck at home,
My daughter works full time in one job and has a part time job,.we are not rich, we worked for our enjoyment of family, second hand caravan holidays were as much fun as a holiday abroad
Under non covid conditions we have friends over for some wine or go out for a meal, we have cars to travel, and we often join up for holidays, we have the internet and web sites, there is nothing Victorian or going backwards with a modern hardworking mum,
I went metal detecting , and fishing with my brothers and son, husband mechanical hobbies an old cars,
You do not have be locked up and isolated if you wish to be a at home mum in this modern era, and I was no heroine of my time, all the mums around about were doing the same
The point is all about choice. And family structures

Liz g says:
Ruby @ 6.41
“I didn’t twist your words Ruby”

Yes you did and everyone saw it. You’re in a hole and should stop digging. You’re a straw-manning liar.

James Che @ 7.51
How can I be twisting your words if you are “all for it” IT being the contentment and choice you say you had ?
Because that’s no how I remember it James.
It was economic servitute , the “choice” as you put it was pocket money if you found the space to work.
The priority was to support the man in his work or the family failed.
The fatherless family really suffered too.
And the assumption that family structures are the answer is pariochal at best.
Ecconomic dependancy is neither fair or fun for any woman and just because you personally found coping mechanisms didn’t mean it was good and certinaly doesn’t mean it’s aspirational.
Where is yer pride woman ?
You’re here on Wings presumably because ye want an equal say in yer country’s resourses why on earth wouldn’t you want parity of esteem in yer own home ?

I am not having a go at you liz g, all I was trying to say is people whom are happy to be stay at mums do not live in a situation that is going backwards to a Victorian era, and the modern family unit is not restricted as in times past, and holding a family together is to be admired, but older fashioned values are passed on to our children, teaching them to show more compassion and love for others. Through a close knit family and community.
The dislocation of that very attitude of family values shows up in modern culture in our society, on twitter, Facebook and in the hateful way people talk to each other, ?

@Stoker. I second that. Stuart is needed more than ever. I can’t imagine us getting to a second IndyRef without him. Pleeeeease Stuart. Take pity on an old woman and change your mind.

James Che @ 8.20
I’m sorry James if I gave the impression that I thought you were having a go at me.
I was a stay at home mum by choice and for the reasons you gave.
It was indeed an easier choice to make at the time and felt right.
BUT
Being widowed with a young family and no earning potential soon changed my mind.
That why I have very strong opinions on both parents not only earning in there own right, but either one ( what if it was me who had died )having the parenting skills to step up for the children.
Therefore
As I said …. given all the advances why is there still a 40 hour working week ?
The way forwards it seems to me is part time work for all and more family/ personal time for everyone.
Which is touching on how do we attract more people to Scotland to organise in that way.

If..
And I’m not saying you James.. not at all
There are those who want to keep Scotland mainly for Scots and can’t stand the thought of being mixed with others …then make the case ..
How do we prosper better than or at least equal to expanding our working adult base dramatically ?
And if you mean a breeding programme for Scottish women have the guts to say so.

Good cartoon, Chris.

Feels a bit odd posting this week, with Stuart and Wings not in house, a bit like being in a shopping mall just at closing time.

Anyhow, old habits die hard…..

Your essential weekend reading:

‘A Letter to the President”: link to wp.me

This is an excellent wee poem, that echoes our own past as well as those of immigrants forced from their lands.

link to pbs.twimg.com

Liz g, my name is Janice, and to a certain degree I agree with you, no one man or woman should have such long working hours,
when my children started school, I worked from 6 in the morning to 8 in the morning, came home and gave children and hubby breakfast, drove them to work and school, and then went back to work, ate while working, left at 3.30pm to picked children up from school,and hubby up from work, gave them their supper, left them at home and went back to work until 10pm, came home got school clothes ready for next day, did the washing and quick hoover and dust, dropped into bed around 1 am,
Got up and repeated all over again for six years.
My gran was widowed while her daughter( my mum) was 1 year old, it’s a very hard life, especially when a war was on, she often had to leave her daughter with a neighbour, as she was the only person locally who knew how to lay out the dead, before rigor mortas set in, due to the undertaker being so busy,
Life itself is not easy,
No one promised us it would be.
IF we expected it to be so, it is nowt but self deception,
We have to go with what we are given and make the best of it,
And if we are not happy with the status quo we must get of our bksides and fight for the right to make those changes,
But let no man or woman speak up for me alone, I am strong, my family instilled that belief in me, and together we are even stronger,
I genuinely admire you Liz for the way you have pulled through the hard times, another fighter,
But if we act in a reactionary way to only our own circumstances and do not include everyone’s point of view, we will fold and collapse before we ever become independent, we must provide good foundations for the people that live here now, so if we still feel we need immigration after that we can prepared to give them a good as start as we give ourselves,
We cannot run before we can walk.

Liz g, internet handshake, and a smile, I am alway ready for new friends.

@Republicofscotland 9:53pm
Sturgeon broke the ministerial code many times over but it didn’t seem to bother you then. You are a hypocrite. At some point you are going to have to accept that you are only one part of Scotland. Keep mama Sturgeon as your head of state. The rest of us are leaving.

Sorry Dan great point but just got invaded by family speak later 🙂

Tannadice boy, were in the same situation as you, I lost my home, and had a good few years of fight to get a house, had no where else to go, so became homeless,
Now in a council house, my daughter trying to cope bringing up her daughter in a weird upside down back to front world were the rights and wrongs are just plain wrong,
My son immigrated to New Zealand , has quickly achieved success whereas he failed here for all his long hours of work, he literally got an award for hardest worker for 3 years running at his place of employment, learned new skills with enthusiasm and is now boss of 18 other men.
He is now married and I have four grandchildren over there,
Had our country been fair and a good place to expand and grow, my grandchildren would have been born Scottish as it was a Scottish lassie he married,
Our children are leaving in the droves, and as parents or people left behind we are becoming little more than statistics of the poor,
You and you’re issues sound like very similar to ourselves, and I suppose like many others here.
Don’t give up, old fashioned values are the only way to win, they fight the stupidity of this woke nonsense and global dislocated culture trying to emerge, hang on to your hat we’re in for one heck of a ride,
Don’t see it as a battle, see it as a challenge for us ,
It’s not so scary Once you realise the enemy on the other side of the hill is sht scared too. Internet hug to you and you’re missus.

Fuckin hell

SNP 1 and 2 Sturgeon fanatic looks like she’s going to bore the Arse off of us for the full shift.

No sign of her when we were attacking Sturgeon, then, out of the blue, she appears.

And not a peep out if her when we were looking for support for Alex Salmond.

She’s a Sturgeon Cult Salmond hater.

It must be quiet over at the Dugs place.

Folks, read the post further up thread by Effigy on 15 May, 2021 at 4:35 pm. It is true! Police Scotland have *YET AGAIN* escorted a march of “thousands” of celebrating *Rangers fans from Ibrox stadium to the City centre. Sturgeon & her government, along with The SFA and Police Scotland *ALL* complicit in aiding & abetting these irresponsible scumbags.

They were all “advised” ahead of today’s game not to plan marches or gatherings. Not only did these irresponsible scumbags ignore the advice *AGAIN* they were once *AGAIN* showing just how weak Sturgeon, ScotGov, Police Scotland & The SFA are and that, when it comes to them, they can do what they like with very little repercussions.

The title should be stripped from them and/or, at the very least, the scum behind the organising/encouraging of this behaviour should be facing lengthy jail terms. Sturgeon must face serious questioning, as should Police Scotland Chief responsible, on the point Effigy makes about AUOB having a representative jailed for a far less serious breach of rules etc.

Make no mistake, these actions are *nothing* to do with football celebrations and *everything* to do with political statement. All the aforementioned bodies are unfit for purpose and are now routinely aiding & abetting these scumbags. I’ve seen folk mention large peaceful loud demonstrations outside Sturgeon’s home. If that takes place i think the police handling of it will be rather interesting to say the least. Shameful Sturgeon!