Wings Over Scotland

Words fail

“Don’t do as I do, do as I say you plebby oik!”

Short-term editor, Neil Mackay and the SNP hierarchy refer to members of the public, voters, who happen to use the Internet as a means of communicating ideas and expressing dissent.

Calling them ‘cybernats’ saves doing any thinking and reduces individuals to a sub-sect of society. In other words, Mackay and the SNP do the work of the unionist press.

“…Cybernats, an online frindge of the Yes Movement…”

WTF…?

I’m just an ordinary Scottish citizen who wants to see his country become an independent nation.

It’s the leader of the Independence Movenent in Scotland who is back tracking on her side of the deal who is causing the problems within the Movement.

She is a fraud and should be de-throned ASAP.

For the sake of independence, Sturgeon should resign within the next few months.

Let us go into next year’s Hollyrood election with a new leader, you with new ideas and new visions for an independent Scotland.

Will somebody please step forward take up the challenge of kicking out this evil little fraudster Sturgeon?

Grouse Beater @ 1.13 pm ,

“ Short-term editor, Neil Mackay and the SNP hierarchy refer to members of the public, voters, who happen to use the Internet as a means of communicating ideas and expressing dissent. “

Very well said and that’s what they don’t like as “ ordinary “ folk have a voice and don’t have to read the rubbish written in the MSM by so called * journalists * and I use that term very loosely .

Just to say to you here that I read your own blog posts and enjoy every one of them .

Rev Stuart Campbell

“ Some days it’s not even worth trying to get your jaw off the floor.”

Some days it’s not even worth reading their rubbish , LOL .

The ‘temerity’to be BAME or a woman, eh? Wee Nic REALLY hates the white male working class, eh? Victim-mentality, anti-white racist apparatchik misandrist. Oh the irony. The quicker the sneeringly self-righteous, self-styled PC Queen of Scotland (TM) joins her husband in a vote of no confidence the better. Joanna Cherry or bust.

Iain More:

Exactly, “why won’t you vile idiots let us keep conning you? How DARE you be savvy enough to want a concrete plan and be able to spot flaws in the one we are pushing? Give us your vote, oik!”

And I don’t remember Sturgeon defending female SNP MSPs when the sexual minority swarmtroopers were attacking them online. Just ask Joanna Cherry or Joan MacAlpine. What a fucking hypocrite.

Plenty of women don’t like her sexual minority policies either, and she totally disregards them. God, but I CANNOT STAND this horrible woman. Seems like the chickens-with-dicks are starting to come home to roost now, though. Fingers crossed.

‘Cybernats.’That’s right up there with ‘seps’and ‘separatists’and ‘Bono’ in the list of words I hate.

Remember, I’m not stroking my ego in public, I’m rising to the occasion. 🙂

I’m also sharing insight into the scientific and legal principles of ethical government. As you do. 😉

Quarterly Journal of Speech, Volume 91, 2005 – Issue 1
Contesting Definitional Authority in the Collective

Abstract

The field of rhetoric has generated studies of definitional disputes and of the relationship between definition and power. Informed by the idea of collective definition created over time, these studies raise an important theoretical-practical question about definition and contestation that may be approached through a concept of authority.

Etymologically, authority precedes or transcends power and is rooted in the twin poles of creativity and reason. Accordingly, this essay proposes a rhetorical manner of contesting definitional authority that performs immanent critique. The manner is warranted by analysis of a 1971 essay that challenged psychiatry’s authority to define “homosexuality.”

Keywords:
Definitional Authority, Performative Speech, Rhetoric, Intersubjectivity, Immanent Critique

link to tandfonline.com

“Damage to the Yes Movement..”
The Yes Movement is in rude fucking health and we would find out by how much if we ever get round to having a referendum.

People disagreeing with each other within the Yes Movement doesn’t mean they have abandoned the idea of independence.

So done with Mackay and his bunch of mealy mouthed hypocrites all happy to sit writing their holier than thou guff for the approval of each other.

This man was gifted the editorship of a well established and sometimes brave newspaper and he destroyed it. Not only that we saw how he destroyed as he wasn’t smart enough to be subtle. He knows that and he cannot forgive us for seeing through him. Everything he does is designed to say to his soft No pals ‘I’m not like them, really’. Pearl clutching Bella-type pseuds the lot of them. Scunnered with the lot of them.

Ruth Wishart called him out. He’s probably muted her.

The woke and the pseudo-yessirs have been found out.

I expect a few to change sides in the coming weeks.

I believe substantial legal cases will begin soon by the poor souls who were given hormones and/or surgery to “correct” themselves. I have every sympathy with these “trans”victims.

I have no sympathy for the stunning and brave liars who told them surgery and hormone therapy would be great and is easily reversible.

If Humza “can my new wife get a job too” Yusuf’s thought crime bill had passed – I’d be looking at 7 years in the pokey for the above.

Absolutely telling when the leadership of a party turn on the rank and file membership.

Calling members vile cybernats show how rotten the SNP leadership is,and how anti independence they have become.

Now Murrell who wanted to pressure police both here and in London to put Salmond under pressure on as many fronts as possible, I’d not just call that vile, I’d call it evil.

But the cyber brits are being found out.

Sturgeon’s days are numbered.

We know for a fact Westminster is spending billions on cyber security.
We know they look for terrorist activity, and remember they called the
Irish terrorists for wanting to control their own country, so we know we
as independence and democracy supporters will carry that same tag.

They can put out massive quantities of misinformation, they can post vicious
attacks while pretending to be SNP members and they still find time to interfere
In the US election, as confirmed by the American government.

Westminster can identify and locate anyone they chose, set them up if they chose
and bump off anyone they chose.

They are the greatest on line danger Scotland will ever face.

It was once said that Peter Murrell’s affectionate nickname at party HQ was Penfold. From a resemblance to the character in the popular 80s cartoon series Danger Mouse.

He’s not nowadays held in affection by genuine nationalists, that’s for sure. And given his many years of six figure secret salary, I would suggest that a more apt nickname would be Billfold.

Can’t see much wrong with Mackays headlines?

These folks all use the cyber net wether twitter, face book, social media you are only a cybernat if you disagree with them or face them up.

Kezia will never learn and will never apologise – she believes she is the only one who can be right (not even just some of the time but all of the time) and she is not alone in this – unfortunately.

Very surprised at NS coming out for Rhiannon when she did not for Joanna Cherry – it just shows who her friends are and it is not good for the majority of us women – too close a clique who convince one another and walk in step and not enough input from the majority of women who have very real concerns and whose rights some are willing to trample over.

Well said Winifred!

Silver Darling @ 4.53pm
The way I see it, SNP MPs have allowed themselves to get bogged down on WM politics. I think it’s wrong to say WM is doing it deliberately.

The SNP MPs collectively should have had one clear and simple objective – that is to constantly call out the constitutional deficit and because of this, hammer home the constitutional crisis that ultimately will play out.

Getting involved in areas that do not advance our stride toward independence is pointless. And we’ve had 6 years of MPs doing just that (with exception JC to some extent).

As for MPs / MSPs collaboration – seems there’s a massive disconnect – I’d go as far to say that the MPs are excluded on the strategic thinking of achieving independence (no laughing at the back, I know there’s scant strategic thinking going on). But my point is there seems little collaboration on a combined tactical approach to gaining independence.

So we have a situation where we have some great big hitters like Jo Cherry and Phillipa Whitford, but their hands are tied and out the loop.

Meanwhile we have a what’s becoming an increasingly sinister power clique in HR that seem to be going full tonto in NS surrounding herself in fanboys and fangirls to entrench herself in power. Afterall, what other explanation can be found in the putting forward these below mediocre McWoke candidates for candidate selection?

These wokists will NOT and NEVER will deliver independence. This is nothing more than a power play. Independence – huh! It will be trotted out for the 2021 election and just like every election before it, in the last 6 years, will be stuffed back in the box as soon as they’ve won it.

I really hope that SNP members start to wake up. Scotland’s best chance of getting its independence is with a leader who has the competence and strategic thinking to deliver it. Right now it seems to me that all NS has on her mind is consolidating her own power.

ps: any news on Peter Murrell losing his job….hmmmm thought not!

Maybe they should dig around the archives to find suitable insults. What was it that Mr McKenna, the esteemed purveyor of all things Scottish independence nowadays:

Yes Scotland, designed to provide a haven for those who want independence but are not necessarily SNP supporters, has had a slovenly beginning. It seems only to have attracted an assortment of social misfits, Walt Disney intellectuals and those who skulk around the edges of Scottish cultural life always ready with pen poised to join a cause at a moment’s notice.

link to theguardian.com

IIRC, he shorted this to gargoyles and misfits as well in his article back in the day.

Looks like the Harassment Committee session on Tuesday is another private session.

🙁

“Grouse Beater says:
27 September, 2020 at 1:13 pm
Short-term editor, Neil Mackay and the SNP hierarchy refer to members of the public, voters, who happen to use the Internet as a means of communicating ideas and expressing dissent.

Calling them ‘cybernats’ saves doing any thinking and reduces individuals to a sub-sect of society. In other words, Mackay and the SNP do the work of the unionist press.”

Totally agree with this statement.

@ Scozzie & Silver Darling

Other than sending our MPs to Westminster to highlight the democratic deficit of The Queendom of Scotland being out-voted by The Queendom of England by a power of 10 to 1, does anybody know if there a list of what our MPs have actually achieved in terms of steering / influencing UK policy?

Queendom – now using that term coz I’m not getting accused of hateful misogyny!

Sturgeon’ pathetic and partisan intervention on behalf of the nonentity known as Spears/Speirs sums up how completely out of her depth she is. Like Ian Brotherhood has observed, I believe that her increasingly hysterical ‘Covid’ pleas and begging for understanding, nearly always in the first person reveal an ugly narcissistic and devious personality now realising that the whole shabby charade is nearly over.

While we bicker and and argue about how to stop the Indy project crashing over the impending Brexit cliff…the SNP remain fixated on their placement of favoured Woke/ BAME/ non binary/ non white w/class males in strategic seats for the ‘S30’ Standoff Farce…an election that may well be put into cold storage by the ‘Sovereign’ UK Gov. on the basis of the continuing Covid emergency.

No fiction writer could have created the dystopian nightmare that Scotland would be facing in the 6 x years going forward from the fraudulent ‘REF’ result of 2014. ‘Silver Darling’@ 7.18 link to Roger Mullin illustrates the complete dissociation from reality that the SNP has been demonstrating over that period.

Like a collection of colonial Uncle Toms, they have bought or been bought into the system. Not once, from Salmond onwards have they demanded in Westminster…the crucible of our Sovereign interface with the English hegemony…our indivisible right to Dissolve the corrupt Union over the many breaches committed against our people there.

The separation from the ailing husk of the Westminster neo-fascist institution must be the disengaging and walking out forever by our MPs. A declaration must be made in that Theatre of the Absurd to all those grinning apes that sit and mock our very existence, led by tra*tors like the despicable Gove and the tory shire scum, that ‘Now is the time’. A return to Scotland and a Convention of Civic Scotland with the rump of Mps should be held and a plebiscite asap. We must assert our Sovereignty before our identity and polity are buried by the completely compromised fifth column ‘leadership’ and their MI5 accomplices.

@Scozzie says:

ps: any news on Peter Murrell losing his job….hmmmm thought not!

Best laugh I’ve had all day.

@Silver Darling, 4.53pm

Thanks for the link to Roger Mullin’s Lets get together page. It makes for salutary reading. When Ian Blackford used to say that Scotland would not be dragged out of the EU against its will, I assumed that there was an SNP strategy in place, that planning was going on to make it happen with MPs and MSPs working together on the issue. Roger Mullin’s post makes it clear that this oft repeated sentence was empty rhetoric. There seems to have been no planning going on at all on any independence issue nor was there teamwork.

“Just to say to you here that I read your own blog posts and enjoy every one of them.” Maggie, 1.13pm.

I hope to write more, if the muse takes me. I’m grateful. Thanks.

when is Alex launching his book

I posted a link earlier today.

Does anyone know the author? The blog seems to have stopped in July 2017.

link to logicsrock.blogspot.com

‘Kenny says:
27 September, 2020 at 9:36 pm
Just occurred; ‘You will face abuse on here’.. that extraordinary tweet by Nicola Sturgeon is the first instance I can recall of her sounding harassed, under pressure. I’d say she’s beginning to crack.’

That occurred to me too, and the woman-and-BAME bit sounded harassed and angry too. Cracks beginning to show in the ice-cool facade.

If the SNP ends up going into the 2021 election with a donkey as leader many of us will still vote for it.

Because we can tell the difference between a political party and a donkey.

-Laukat-

Sorry but this is wishful thinking on a number of levels. NS has a very high degree of control over Scottish politics, greater than the degree of control than, for example, even powerful politicians like Thatcher and Blair had over British politics in their pomp. Any failure to remove these extremists is not due to any inability to do so on her part. She is not some poor wee dearie surrounded by nasty fanatics. They could be gone in five minutes if she wanted it. If they are still here, that is because she is one of them.

Sturgeon has not “been seen to have a hand in” the persecution of Alex Salmond. It is not a question of poor media handling (indeed, the unquestioning support/ complete avoidance of the story by the unionist media ought to tell its own story). The dots of what happened are not very hard to join. I agree that Alex Salmond has made mistakes- others may take a different view- and that politics is a rough game where you have to expect your opponents to take advantage of your mistakes. However, we are not talking about embarrassing newspaper headlines, we are talking about what appears to be a conspiracy, orchestrated by some powerful people, to send him to prison. Even Donald Trump has not stooped so low.

Nicola Sturgeon’s handling of covid has not been “second to none”. Scotland has a higher death rate than most other European countries and at this moment cases are rising at a faster rate than England. Our economy has shrunk considerably more than England’s and the Scottish government is encouraging a curtain-twitching atmosphere- locking up children ffs! Before you say “but their powers are limited”, that is very true, but the SG has performed badly even in those areas where it does have power. A relative of mine tested positive yet none of his contacts have been contacted by track and trace yet. The mass deaths in care homes were due to SG decisions. That was the Scottish government’s job, they have been every bit as inept as Hancock and the buffoon in Downing Street. Yes, this is a terrible crisis and any leader would make mistakes, but if you want an example of an effective leader who dealt with covid well, Angela Merkel, Jacinda Arden or Scott Morrison- all from different political traditions- are better. If by “second to none” you mean “said the word ‘serious’ a lot at news conferences and put on a pensive face”- or, indeed, hubristically declaring, as she did not so long ago, that covid had been eliminated in Scotland- then yes, maybe then NS would qualify. Perhaps “second to worst” might be a better description.

Excuse my bluntness, but you remind me a bit of the Russian peasants who marched on the Tsar’s palace demanding bread and were shot by the Cossacks. They said “if only the Tsar knew, he would help us”. Whereas, of course, it was the Tsar who had ordered the Cossacks to shoot the peasants in the first place. The facts are quite clear to anybody who looks at them objectively- trust me when I say that I really wish it wasn’t so.

@Hatuey

‘Do you think the app is really anonymous? Everything else is lies, why not that? I’m not installing it either way.’

The trick is when you have to have it to go into shops, GP, public transport etc to keep everyone safe from covid.

I hear tell, which ive not looked into, that the same company that is putting up illegal migrants in hotels and army barracks with a huge government contract is the same company that is running the test centers and apparently (not confirmed) the NHS app.

Ive not looked into it. Can’t be arsed. Could be true however if any intrepid googlers feel energetic.

Noticed the police response in London to the protest. Seems like taking a knee is just for racist marxist organisations bent on vandalism and violence.

With all the doctors and other professionals speaking out they really need to tell Icke to fuck off.

@Crazy cat

They are not asylum seekers. They are illegal migrants. The key is in the fact they already reached a safe haven and choose then to sneak into another country.

@crazycat says:
27 September, 2020 at 11:41 pm
“The English app is run by Serco, who also “deal” with asylum seekers etc.
ScotGov allegedly (and probably genuinely) have different one.”

They do. They also gave all the links to technical specs for it. As for confidentiality, the developer – and the Scottish Government – would be liable under GDPR for any data breaches, and there are fucking expensive consequences if that happens.

-Beaker-

So they are needlessly destroying people’s livelihoods as a stunt.

If this continues young folk will start fleeing to England- again!

“If you are staying in a hotel, bed and breakfast or similar accommodation, you should not have more than one household staying in each room booked.”

link to visitscotland.org

Yes he’s a horror. I saw Ruth Wishart criticise him for always and only attacking Indy supporters.

Also noticed the FM had blocked Kirk J Torrance. Things getting frayed at the edges now. She’s doing again what I detest most about her – partisan support and proving herself such a hypocrite. It was a final eye opener for me when she allowed the abuse of Joan McAlpine to go on as it did and for her to stay silent. For her to speak out now on behalf of a parasite like Spear turns my stomach. There’s no redemption for her after that.

Please help me I think my tinfoil hat is on too tight, everytime I go on to the National online there appears a ghostlike ad on the R/H side of the page that says “Trans Rights are Human Rights is anyone seeing this ad or am I losing it, Also everytime I turn on the television that wee shite susan calman appears to be on it from bank ads to presenter gigs, are ALL the britnat tv companies TROLLING Scotland by smothering us in Proud Scot BUTS

Listened to a youtube broadcast today by “Twa Auld Heids” where a Mike Fenwick was questioning the legality of certain parts of the referendum bill which he said if NOT AMENDED could result in WM challenging the POSITIVE outcome of a indy ref (if only we could GET one), he has contacted his MP, MSP and the SG to highlight this anomaly but has been jerked around (colour me surprised) well worth a listen to, but it is over 2hrs long they have interviews with Mark Hirst, Kenny McAskill, Chris McEleny and others, good one to bookmark

link to youtube.com

What we are looking for is someone who is as politically cunning as Alex Salmond,,,

someone who is as skilled an orator as Tommy Sheridan,,,

and is as legally skilled as Joanna Cherry.

All applicants apply within, via Rev Stu.

Our saviour must be out there somewhere.

Please come out of the shadows,,, just for us,,,,so we can dump the fraudster Sturgeon,,,and get us over the line for Scotland to become an independent nation.

susanXX says:
28 September, 2020 at 1:39 am

A clear out is desperately needed though I’m inclined to think the SNP is beyond redemption and a new party/ parties for independence is/are required.

I see a clear out as essential. As for beyond redemption, I think there still time to replace Sturgeon and the NEC and get the SNP back on the rails, but the clear out has to happen soon.

Realistically, Joanna Cherry is calling for the NEC troublemaker’s to be sacked, and an Autumn Confeference perhaps online to ring the changes. I agree. I think it’s vital, and it’s probably drinking in the Last Chance Saloon to avoid irreparable damage.

I don’t want to sound bitter, but I’m thinking of all those apologists and drips making endless excuses for Sturgeon’s inaction these last five years by saying that Sturgeon had to back pedal on Independence because as First Minister she had to govern for the whole of Scotland, Indy and Unionist alike…

Sturgeon is quite transparently no such animal, and quite shameless when it comes to backing up her own wee coterie of wokerati conspirators, who serve their own interests and no others.

The other trope is Sturgeon’s “popularity” and handling of COVID. Not sure what that has to do with Independence, but Sturgeon’s popularity isn’t confined to Scotland. Sturgeon comes top of a YouGov poll…

link to yougov.co.uk

That’s brilliant, except you have to ask yourself why the SNP Leader who is meant to usher in the demise of the UK Union and deliver Scottish Independence is polling so well South of the Border.

It is my firm conviction that Sturgeon’s UK wide popularity is just a simple reciprocal of Boris Johnson’s \ Tory unpopularity, and to interpret this as having any bearing on Independence is deeply misguided.

Alex, and all of us need to reinforce the fact that he has been
Given free reign on the RT Channel to say what he likes and
Interview who he likes, always with instructive and justified comments
and questions.

No UK media outlet gives his side of any story and never will.
A true leader, never guilty of any crime, never in it for himself,
a man always putting the people of Scotland first is perpetually
attacked and vilified as he aims to remove the rich hands of
Westminster from Scotland’s pocket.

He was ganged up on by all unionist parties to lose his seat in a manner
Never seen before with a Labour leader promoting vote Tory to stop a
Man the could not stop alone.

Why on earth wouldn’t he use RT to keep the public politically aware and
generate an income, all of which was spent against defending his reputation in
Court.

Now we are to embrace a new right wing extremist, billionaire Trump supporter’s
New GB News Channel Funder from America.

Brillo heid, truth denier is to front the shows fake news special.

That will add right wing distorted news to that provided by the BBC 1 & 2, Sky, ITV, Channels 4 and 5.

The UK media is no better than that in North Korea.

Time leave Scotland. Just as soon as you can!

BBC on full attack mode this morning. Tokio Kaye with a host of English sounding voices attacking the Scottish government for openng the universities.
First one I heard talked about the Scottish government allowing students to go home if they isolate but not saying what they should do if they have tested positive.
The BBC is clearly spreading misinformation to spread the virus by causing and spreading confusion

@A Person says

I didn’t say the Scottish Government has got everything right regarding covid. I said Nicola’s leadership skills have been second to none. She has faced the media and answered questions every day on every decision she and her government have made. To pretend that she has not been an impressive leader during this period is to deny reality.

I hope truth about Alex Salmond comes out. I think for Alex the optimum time for that to happen is post May 2021.

Remember the Russians had only really 2 prospects. Retain the Tsar or go for the Communists. If in the analogy you picked you say waiting on the Tsar was the wrong choice than I assume you would throw you’re lot in with the communists. Neither option was a good one. In Scotland’s current situation there is either vote SNP or vote Unionist, no votes count for the status quo as failure to win a majority will be seen as a rejection of Independence.

So how exactly will you cast your vote in May whilst still gaining Independence as soon as possible? Realistic proposals only please.

@Joe
Its been looking like severe commie cold since the numbers first started coming in so was good to see Icke there, if only to expose the gulf in sanity between him and the directors of Scottish universities..

Also ironic to see Dr Schöning arrested at speakers corner – so much so one might be inclined to suspect further conspiracy.

That said, one clip of a policeman telling a protestor to shut it because his wife was a staff nurse and knew all to well how real it was begs the obvious question as to why the hell he was allowed on duty and not obliged to self isolate for the better protection of the public/ his wife/ her patients, etc..

Laukat, vulgar simplifications will get you nowhere on here. Trust me, I’ve tried.

Sturgeon’s been better at PR during the Coronavirus crisis. Not being Boris in Scotland is definitely to her advantage.

The impact of the virus itself has been much the same as in England and that’s as you’d expect since they’ve made the exact same mistakes.

The codswallop about tsarist Russia has no basis in anything and doesn’t deserve a serious response. We have much more than the binary choice you are suggesting.

The simplest thing for everyone would be for her to resign. I predict that will happen before Christmas, giving the new leadership team enough time to prepare for the election.

When I say for everyone above, I mean also for the British state. Their relationship with her serves no purpose if she doesn’t have the confidence of the rabble.

One possible outcome here is that the British use the situation to close down Holyrood and take control. When you think about it, the crisis that has started unfolding here could go the way the “cash for ash” crisis went in NI. It’s a very similar situation in many respects.

As said, to avoid all that she needs to go.

@laukat

The false dichotomy schtick is often used, but becomes no more convincing despite constant repetition in many situations. It simply isn’t true that the only choice in Russia was a binary Tsar vs. Communism one, any more than it was true the only choice for Arabs is local authoritarian (Gaddaffi/Assad/Al Sisi) versus Islamist.

In our context it’s not a choice between SNP and indy or unionist & status quo. The SNP is not the whole movement, however dominant they have been allowed to become. The glaring problem for those pushing this line is that the SNP aren’t going to deliver independence unless there is a palace coup which essentially replaces the current leadership and puts the Woke Stasi firmly in its place (hopefully by driving them out altogether).

If the party fails to do so in the short term, the only realistic alternative for pro independence folk who disagree with the current leadership and policy direction is to leave and build a viable alternative. I understand why many rank and file members want to try and “reclaim” their party, but they’ve been spectacularly unsuccessful in stopping the take over by the current crop of science denying woo-woo charlatans. They have a very limited window of opportunity to make things right. Meantime those of us who don’t believe the party can be saved from its own stupidity have work to do.

As for your question about voting in May, like many I will vote for ISP on the list. In my constituency (Edinburgh Central) I will vote SNP if the candidate aligns with my views (not looking hopeful so far!?) or spoil my ballot. There is no other viable choice, because SNP 1& 2 isn’t going to result in a vote on independence, still less its actual achievement, in the short to medium term.

Of course the gradualists in the SNP leadership and activist base will be quite content with that. Being big fish in a devolutionary pond is more important to them than actually fighting for independence.

Re the Scottish covid app mentioned up thread.

It’s the same as the Irish app and the firm behind it is NearForm who originated in Tramore Co. Waterford.

-Polly-

Thank you that is kind, especially coming from someone like you who posts a lot of sense on here.

-Breeks-

I agree. The old folk who are tuning into these broadcasts and saying how Sturgeon has grown on them are still going to go out and vote to keep Queen, Union Jack and their house prices at the end of the day.

-Laukat-

I think you have misunderstood my analogy a bit, the Russian peasants believed that the Tsar in his palace had their best interests at heart and blamed the shooting on bad people surrounding him whereas in fact the Tsar was the cause of all the trouble. I am saying that putting your faith in Nicola Sturgeon, when it is Nicola Sturgeon who has caused many of the things you complain of, seems odd to me.

You “hope the truth about Alex Salmond comes out”. If you have been reading the Rev Stu Campbell’s posts on this site, the truth about Alex Salmond is pretty bloody obvious.

After I have demonstrated that Sturgeon has not handled covid very well (again, it would obviously tax any leader), you assert that Sturgeon’s hosting of daily press conferences nevertheless makes her a superior leader. Incidentally I think needing to be on tv every single day speaks to a somewhat unhealthy pathology. More importantly, it seems you and others are content to accept any outcome as long as it’s presented in a way that makes you feel good. Bluntly speaking she has only been “impressive” if you are interested only in the cosmetic aspect of politics. I would rather Scotland was led by the uncharismatic Merkel whose country has had comparatively few deaths and minimal economic and social disruption.

In both these instances it seems that you, like many others, have some weird attachment to Nicola Sturgeon, whereby any misdeeds or ineptitude can be excused because “och, she’s just great”. I cannot fathom why so many invest so much faith in this rather dull woman, who has achieved diddly squat in the six years she has had untrammelled power over Scottish politics.

I will not be voting for the SNP because, as I have hopefully made clear, I regard their leader as a authoritarian, inept and self-serving. The SNP do not have any entitlement to my vote and have no interest in pursuing independence despite the hot air they generate about it. I will vote for a strong Independence Party if one is on the ballot or otherwise will spoil my paper. I have never done this before.

I apologise for sounding a bit high-handed but frankly this unwillingness to accept what should be plain to any objective person is deeply frustrating.

Where exactly did the SG do any better than the UKG managing covid? What a load of bollocks. About the only tangible thing I can find is that NS has better (allegedly) presentation skills than BJ.

People should be judging the SG on how it is doing versus other countries with far lower death rates and asking why? but instead all that seems to matter is that we are making slightly less of an arse of it than England. I find it a very small-time mentality.

@ Ian Brotherhood at 10:01 am
“I don’t remember ever seeing that blog before. Very interesting stuff.”
He did post on here quite often, I did subscribe to the Blog, Then it just stopped, I had forgot about it till I saw the layout and background

Mac -Correct about Covid- It’s all to do with perception.

Nicola is better at communicating, but like all European countries Covid- 19 is a disaster.

In particular the locking down of students in halls , when it was the SG who let them return. Now this morning they are letting some go home. It’s actually now spiraling out of control. The Schools are being kept open for political reasons at the moment.

However I expect they will close come the October week and beyond. I expect a full lockdown in November.

Joe@10.09
Nicely put.

Joe: “ what is it about life in Europe under the EU that makes Britain so appealing in comparison?”

In a word, or two, identity cards. Once you’re in Britain, you’re more or less free to live without interference. On the continent you need to show your ID to buy a bag of crisps.

This is one of the reasons for the Schengen Accord which effectively gave Britain another “opt out”. Being an island, Britain has always depended on physical controls at outer borders rather than things like ID cards.

From an illegal migrant worker’s perspective, that’s quite an appealing situation.

Big Jock,
Why do you mean by “out of control” and why do you believe we need a national lockdown?

I really don’t think there are ‘cybernats’. It is an invention. When you think about it, it is a ridiculous concept. It is just made up shite. Read the comments in The Scotsman. How come we are not talking all those cybercunts or cyberwhatevers.

However there is a tangible group within the SNP who are extremely vicious who have a maniacal belief in extreme (and ludicrous) ideology who will not hesitate to smear people in the most foul and dishonest way, to get them sacked etc, indeed to even try to send an innocent man to die in jail.

Funny how the unionist press don’t seem so interested in their behaviour, nor the SNP leadership who instead legitimize the lie that these ‘cybernats’ are actually real. Working hand in hand again it seems…

I guess if you are the one behind the woke psycho brigade that Team Nicola has fostered and nurtured it is handy to have some fictitious ‘cybernat’ goon squad to deflect away the attention and criticism you should be facing.

Everything Nicola is doing is to poison the well of the independence movement. All these hugely contentious and divisive policies are being brought into do what they do best, the attempt to destroy AS, the manner in which it was done form the very start to this very day. Repopulating the party with lunatics, all while squandering BREXIT… The list goes on and on and all of it is to fuck up the independence movement.

Can you imagine the state YES would be in at the polls had it not been for BREXIT and all we had was all of the above. BREXIT is actually covering for them.

Beaker,
Perhaps you can talk me through the government’s strategy and what it hopes to achieve?
Then I have some questions for you depending on what the strategy is.

Graeme@11.55
Better being a proud Cybernat, than an embarrassed Cyberyoon.
Nice one.

Graeme,
I have a vile cybernat badge.

Another thing I’m getting sick of seeing on Twitter *&* on here btl is the absolute w@nkers who’re constantly coming out with this crap: ‘note how as we get near indy all the “so-called” Yessers who are attacking Nicola or creating division’ blah blah blah.

Firstly, begging for an S30 and being told to get back to the kitchen sink is *not* getting “near indy”.

Secondly, why is it the fault of “so-called” Yessers and not that of certain SNP politicians who have lied to us all, made false promises, tried to prosecute innocent folk, been deliberately obstructive with information requests or who have tried to ram extreme minority policies down our throats? Policies they did not stand on.

Simply put, if those in the snp didn’t give us the reasons there would be no public arguments within the Yes movement. We could all focus on the BritNat crap.

It wasn’t “so-called” Yessers who celebrated the taking down of the WOS Twitter account was it? Absolute arseholes, everyone of them, and they can call me a “so-called” all they want coz I know there’s not one of them been fighting for indy as long as I have been.

And now we are seeing a growing number of these SO-CALLED representatives shutting down their social media accounts to responses from anyone who doesn’t lick their arses. Where is the accountability? There isn’t any and that’s the problem.

PS: Rhiannon Spears is a blatant liar & Sturgeon & Fiona Hyslop are her bully supporters. Shame on them all for picking on a young lassie who just told the truth. Not a party I want to be associated with. Shameful!

@breastplate, you vile cybernat, you! 🙂

What’s your thinking about lockdown?

Breastplate – apologies for not replying quicker but I’m working.

Saw this comment elsewhere and I think it sums things up:

August: Get back to university
September: Stay in your accommodation or else

Government’s strategy? I don’t care what happens outside Scotland. I have a personal interest what happens here as I have a relative studying.

If you want an answer ask Mr Lochhead.

kapelmeister 12.38pm

Sooner rather than later will do nicely thanks. ?

kapelmeister

I hit a wee face imijo and a question mark appeared.

I look and listen to Sturgeon now on the telly and see a very different person from the one that we held in such high esteem when she first took over from Alex Salmond.

I see a very evil woman who has nobodies interest at heart, apart from her own.

Mr Murrell comes across as the greedy agent guiding his prodigy through all the right hoops, so they gain as much power and money as they can, before the Scottish public catch on to their con trick and chase them out of town.

Balaargh,
I believe that rigid lockdowns will be detrimental to our society going forward because as I’ve said before, little or no value is given to mental, physical and psychological well being and the consequences going forward and will be with us for decades.

We will all have the gift of 20/20 hindsight in years to come and be able to quantify the fruit of the mistakes we make now.

Oh Dear on SKY again it’s being reported that Glasgow UNI have set a precedent by offering support to students that’s not available in England.

This brings me back to The Baron Foulkes of Cumnocks Comments some time ago , The Scottish Government are funding social care more in Scotland just to make councils in England look bad ” And What’s More They are Doing it Deliberately ”

Oh he’s a bleedn Treasure George the Labour Barron , let that sink in A Sir is the leader of Labour and most of the Lords are also Labour ha ha who’s fooling who here . Gravy Train ring a bell ?

For the last fucking time folks, SNP POLICY IS NOT WOKE, as the party simply does not support the rights of women or ethnic minorities. They appear content though, to disregard international law and sacrifice Scotland to the will off English fascism (see Brexit). So it’s probably more accurate to describe the party as friends of English Torydum, and so, subsequently, enemies of Scotland.

@ Cameron

‘For the last fucking time folks, SNP POLICY IS NOT WOKE, as the party simply does not support the rights of women or ethnic minorities’

I agree they don’t support women and I’m uncertain about minority’s other than Trans, but Cameron what would you have us call the specific policies if not ‘woke’. That word does seem to have entered into common parlance as a shorthand for those policies and that ideology. Do you suggest we use something else?

@ Breastplate at 1.48 pm

‘for the life of me I can’t stop my mother calling the vacuum cleaner a hoover.’

I do that too because my granny used to when I was small and my mother did it after her, now me. We’ve never owned a hoover model in all that time.

Woke is a word which I think might not be able to be removed now from people’s lexicon. And the whole trans ideology is the reason I worry about other words/meanings being changed and why it can be so dangerous to allow them to change so much.

@ David says:
28 September, 2020 at 1:55 pm
The FM is correct the abuse is terrible

Yes just a pity she is so very very selective in who to support and when to ignore abuse. She’s deserving of all the calumny that can be heaped on her for behaving in such a despicable way.

Polly
It’s a very long time since I was trained in WOKE pedagogue, which was designed to counter neo-liberalism’s colonisation of human existence, and which only works in tandem with inclusive legal practice. So I’m very rusty, but the first principle I’d suggest is simply DO NOT reject Common law reasoning by denying a legal respect for the human genome. Such anti-foundational and dogmatic legal instrumental-ism is intensely dehumanising and authoritarian in nature, and pretty much the same legal practice as employed by the Nazis (and BoJo). So I think the easiest description would simply be “gender-fascists”, who’s intent is to destroy language meaning so that legal judgement becomes even more arbitrary and effectively a tool of politics.

Genderwoowoo lacks coherence and compatibility with medical philosophy and bioethics, so it also lacks coherence and compatibility with both the Common law and the principles of open democracy. That’s why Scotland is getting pumped from both ends, the party of hope has simply become hostile to rationality and self-determination.

Putting Phenomenology into Practice – Towards an Ontology of Person Centered Healthcare
link to e-space.mmu.ac.uk

@ Breastplate says:
28 September, 2020 at 2:13 pm

I agree the definition of woman is a hill worth dying on, woke is not. Yet perhaps the word woke could be dismissed as mere insult and any statement containing that term ignored on that basis alone? That’s why I wondered what else might we usefully use without having to mention every policy that was damaging and go through the rigmarole.

Cameron, though I agree with what you say on this I’m not sure ‘gender-fascists’ would work much better. It may be a more precise term for most of their policies and has that advantage, but any mention of the word fascist tends to turn people away since it’s been so much overused and tended to become undervalued as to what it actually is. It also doesn’t trip off the tongue so easily and I can’t see it supplanting ‘woke’ more generally. I’m not sure what the answer is to be able to talk about these things without turning some people away because of the mere words themselves.

“SCIENCE DENYING AUTHORITARIANS”? I’m rusty but I know my shit. Unlike those running the party of hope.

The Journal of Medicine and Philosophy: A Forum for Bioethics and Philosophy of Medicine, Volume 44, Issue 4, August 2019, Pages 459–478

A Defense of the Phenomenological Account of Health and Illness

Abstract

A large slice of contemporary phenomenology of medicine has been devoted to developing an account of health and illness that proceeds from the first-person perspective when attempting to understand the ill person in contrast and connection to the third-person perspective on his/her diseased body.

A proof that this phenomenological account of health and illness, represented by philosophers, such as Drew Leder, Kay Toombs, Havi Carel, Hans-Georg Gadamer, Kevin Aho, and Fredrik Svenaeus, is becoming increasingly influential in philosophy of medicine and medical ethics is the criticism of it that has been voiced in some recent studies.

In this article, two such critical contributions, proceeding from radically different premises and backgrounds, are discussed: Jonathan Sholl’s naturalistic critique and Talia Welsh’s Nietzschean critique. The aim is to defend the phenomenological account and clear up misunderstandings about what it amounts to and what we should be able to expect from it.

health, illness, naturalism, Nietzsche, phenomenology

link to academic.oup.com

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