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Posted on January 01, 1968 by

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  1. Conan_the_Librarian says:

    @Paula Rose
     
    If you think the damned are hunky…

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  2. Bugger (the Panda) says:

    Paula and credit cards.
    link to anorak.co.uk

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  3. Paula Rose says:

    Conan dear – this is the kitchen, winky things a go go.

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  4. Conan_the_Librarian says:

    G’night folks

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  5. Bugger (the Panda) says:

    @ Conan
     
    If you think the damned are hunky…
    Steady there boy, the damned?
    You think you are Alan Cochrane in disguise and I only hope that I am a Panda, FFS.

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  6. TJenny says:

    Thought they only had glass ceilings!  And, whatever happened to a wee gold spoon on a chain, much favoured in the 70s.
     
    Paula Rose – that fair woke me up, but in a good way. 

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    • Bugger (the Panda) says:

      TJ
       
      Follow my link to the anorak.com site and look bottom left at the photo of the table in front of the two.

      Otherwise what are going on about and glass ceilings and other weird stuff?

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    • Bugger (the Panda) says:

      NIGHTOL
      James has to have his meds and his allnight nappy changed.

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  7. Better Together St Kilda says:

    Anyone got a fag? – this is the kitchen?

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  8. Bugger (the Panda) says:

    Better Together St Kilda
     
    I smell a Police Box and has the Doctor regenerated?

    A fag darling?

    You have to go to Eton for that. Ask DC and GO, for the directions

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  9. TJenny says:

    BtP – nighty, night. Think you’re correct we have a shape-shifter in our midst.  Conan and I both have your email address so we can continue the setting up of the chat area off site.  

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  10. K1 says:

    “When you believe there’s no mountain you can’t climb
    and if you get it wrong…you get it right next time”….
     



    Definitely A side 🙂

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  11. Conan_the_Librarian says:

    Can’t make it to the Albanach tonight 🙁
     
    Sorry folks.

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  12. Quinie frae Angus says:

    Boo hoo, sorry folks, I can’t make it to the pub tonight either….but would love to meet up on another occasion. Hope those of you who are able to make it have a really good night, with lots of Wingy ideas for getting the truth out there to the unconvinced, the uninformed, the unsure and the uninterested…..

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  13. TJenny says:

    Does anyone know if Wingman and J MacKay are going to the Abanach?  As it’s the freezingest night of the year so far, I may not go either.

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  14. K Mackay says:

    Hey folks, I went to the Albannach with my girlfriend and my mum 🙂 Couldn’t see any
    wingers (we need a sign) reckoned it was a long shot anyway, only made it there at 11:30pm. Anyway,  whisky happened, ended up in banshee labrynth. Doubt I’m goin to feel very healthy tomorrow.
     
    This trying to meet wings folk is a dangerous business 🙂 But I will persevere! I’ll keep going out and getting pissed until I meet everyone 🙂
     
    Up for trying again next week or the week after?

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  15. Quinie frae Angus says:

    Yes, I’m up for trying next week! Friday night only possibility for me though….

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  16. TJenny says:

    K. Mackay – Glad you went to The Albanach and as you were wth others, hope you had a good time 🙂
     
    Even if I had gone, it’s unlikely that I would have stayed for 3 and half hours on my own, so would’t have been there for your arrival.
     
    If anyone is going to be there next Friday, and they have a mobile or somesuch device, it would be handy if you could post a comment here, on Quarantine, to say you’re there (I can be there within about 15 mins if I know there are WoSers present).  You could also post to say where in pub you are/what you’re wearing, so other WoSers that may be there can find you – just a thought. 🙂
     

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  17. Conan_the_Librarian says:

    I’ll defo be there Friday the 20th, It’s my office party that that night, aboot fifty yards away from the Albanach.

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  18. Paula Rose says:

    Anyone know what’s happened to the Better Together Facebook page?

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  19. Paula Rose says:

    You know – the one from St Kilda.

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  20. Ian Brotherhood says:

    @Paula –
     
    There’s no-one on St. Kilda apart from very keen scientists. I suspect the BT page you’re talking about is a spoof.
     
    Anyway, check this out – it’s a Marvin Gaye song I was listening to earlier on a CD I hadn’t played for years. Looked for it on Youtube, and got this version, which is definitely ‘live’, but the behaviour of the audience is peculiar, uncomfortable.
     
    Strikes me that what we’ve got going here in the pro-Indy campaign is a kind of ‘Soul’ movement which the broader audience (rUK/MSM) simply does not understand, doesn’t know how to react to.
     
    In this wee example it didn’t stop Marvin turning in a great performance, and doesn’t detract from the music.
     
    Bottom line? They just don’t get it.
     
    Their loss.
     


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  21. Paula Rose says:

    Spoof dear?
     

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  22. Paula Rose says:

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  23. Ian Brotherhood says:

    @Paula –
     
    I didn’t mean any disrespect to the people who lived there. I’ve got the Tom Steel book, have tried hard to imagine what it must’ve been like living there.
     
    I was just thinking about that alleged Better Together St. Kilda group – that cannot be real. That was all.

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  24. Better Together St Kilda says:

    We’re back – Better Together Saint Kilda.

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  25. Ian Brotherhood says:

    Paula –
     
    You’ve probably heard this before, but if not, you may like it. The video seems dodgy, but I’m not sure if that’s deliberate. The sound’s okay anyway, and it’s Martyn Bennett, so that’s the main thing.


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  26. Paula Rose says:

    Ian –
     
    Know the poems well, first time I’ve heard them with music – reminded me of the time I heard Lynton Kwesi Johnson perform his poetry with the music of the culture, magical.
    Thanks – quite a library of Scottish culture building up in Quarantine – smiley thing!
    btw those puffins on St Kilda must have really got up BT’s nose, they’ve been shot down again.

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  27. Ian Brotherhood says:

    @Paula –
     
    I only encountered MacLean’s work as part of a course, and it blew me away. I can’t believe that this guy’s work isn’t commonly known, that we didn’t get any of it in school, that his passing went almost unmarked.
     
    But then, the same could be said of George Mackay Brown or Morgan – there’s next to nothing in the White Paper about how important these people are, and how Scottish women are pushing the boundaries of poetry, but Salmond, Fabiani, Sturgeon, Russell etc are sophisticated people, and it’s a cert they’re well aware of them – I guess they’re not drawing attention to that fact because they want to avoid any accusations of try to lay claim to these artists – fact is, though, people like Kathleen Jamie are appearing on Yes platforms.
     
    Having people like that on our side is yet another reason to be optimistic.

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  28. Paula Rose says:

    @ Ian
     
    I think it is a grave mistake to nail artists to one’s mast without their permission, what may seem one thing one day can mean something else the next – though many of these great poets  made it abundantly clear in their lifetimes that Scotland no longer needed to hold England’s hand as she tried to find her way in the world.

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  29. Ian Brotherhood says:

    @Paula –
     
    Agreed. But when you look at someone like Vaclav Havel, and what he did, it does make you wonder about the status artists have in our society – it’s tragic that so many have (understandably) become extremely wary of associating themselves with any political party or movement.
     
    Who knows? Maybe that’s about to change. I hope so.

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  30. Paula Rose says:

    @Ian –
     
    I beg to differ – seems to me that what with National Collective and statements by many others, our Scottish culture is very much part of the new enlightenment that the end of a now ‘not fit for purpose’ political union offers.

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  31. Ian Brotherhood says:

    @Paula –
     
    Well, let’s at least agree that we’re on the same page. Literally.

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  32. Paula Rose says:

    Literary

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  33. Conan_the_Librarian says:

    A meet up in the Albanach; my latest excuse
     
    link to mypseudepigrapha.blogspot.co.uk

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  34. Ian Brotherhood says:

    @Conan the Librarian –
     
    Just read your blog entry there. Gordon Bennett, you must’ve got a fright. Hope you’re well on the mend and fit enough to enjoy the festivities.
     
    Tell me – if a Glasgow shindig was organised, and you had plenty of notice, would you consider attending? I’m thinking sometime in spring, perhaps around Easter time.
     
    In any event, have a good one.
     
    Cheers!

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  35. Conan_the_Librarian says:

    Thanks Ian, I’m always up for a shindig.
    Well not tonight obviously…

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  36. Ian Brotherhood says:

    I did ask earlier in Quarantine if anyone wanted to suggest a time and place for another west-coast getthegither, but no takers, so here goes:
     
    Who’s up for a proper swally/blether on April 4th? It’s a Friday, not so far away from pay-day that most won’t still have a few bawbees to spend wisely, and the clocks will have gone forward the previous weekend so, in theory at least, the winter has passed and there’s a wee bit extra light in the evening.
     
    I’m thinking of McGinn’s, right at Central Station, bottom of Hope St (if it’s still going and hasn’t changed hands lately – a wee while since I’ve been there). They have an upstairs lounge which isn’t normally used but I’m pretty sure I could get it for skelps if they can be persuaded that it’ll be worth their while opening the bar. If, for argument’s sake, I can promise the owner (who’s Matt McGinn’s nephew) that there’ll be at least, say, thirty of us? I’m sure that would be enough for him to put on staff.
     
    No tickets, no raffles, nae gimmicks – just a good squad of us having a few hours together.
     
    And does anyone fancy volunteering to do the sounds? (But you MUST promise to play Whisky Kiss at least three times, right?)
     
    If I get a solid idea of numbers, here, by mid-week? then I’ll pop in to McGinn’s week after next and see if we can get that night booked.
     
    What think ye’s? Who’s up for it?

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  37. Iain Hamilton says:

    Ian Brotherhood, Please count Karen and me in for McGinns. Looking forward to maybe seeing a few faces from September’s march there.

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  38. kininvie says:

    Hi Ian,
     
    I’ll do my damndest to be there. Date noted. About time you and I met up!

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  39. Conan_the_Librarian says:

    Should be 100% by then Ian.

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  40. Quinie frae Angus says:

    Date is in my diary, Ian. Thank you.

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  41. Ian Brotherhood says:

    Cheers folks. That’s a good start.
     
    I know this is a pretty arbitrary number, but if we get to 25 confirming interest then I’ll go ahead and try to book it.
     
    Just 21 to go…

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  42. Quinie frae Angus says:

    I’m betting that come the time that wee venue won’t be big enough to fit us all in!! 

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  43. The Man in the Jar says:

    Count me in!
     
    I used to be quite a regular in “The Solid” across the street so I know that I can get there in under half an hour. 😉

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  44. Alex Taylor says:

    Blantyre boy agrees to go to night out for bevvy shocker!

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  45. Ian Brotherhood says:

    That’s seven of us now…bags me Yul Brynner.

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  46. Thepnr says:

    Ian
    Count me in, I’ll be looking forward to it. Cheers.

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  47. Twenty14 says:

    Ian Brotherhood – Count me in – far enough away to for the boy from North Glasgow to pencil in. Be good to meet up and look to the future.

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  48. clochoderic says:

    Ian, count me in too, !’ll see if I can drag a few bodies in with me.

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  49. Patrician says:

    I will put the date in my diary. I can’t guarantee I’ll make it so far in advance but I will try my best

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  50. cearc says:

    I am hoping to be down to the dear green place around about that time.  If it’s on I’ll make the trip then and come but I cannot make a certain yes (except september’s Yes, of course).  Sometimes life , or the other thing, chucks up the wrong stuff.

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  51. Ian Brotherhood says:

    Cheers to all. Very good.
     
    Now, we’re half-way there. Another twelve or so, and I’ll have to drag me auld bones up to Glasgow to have a wee fly pint in McGinn’s and have a blether with the lassies…och, it’s a serr fecht sometimes so it is.

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  52. scaredy cat. says:

    I’d like to join you if that’s ok? I work nearby, so if I can get a sitter for the wee one, I’ll be there too.

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  53. Spout says:

    Room for one more?

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  54. Ian Brotherhood says:

    @Spout –
     
    Nae danger…that’s us at 15 now…ticking along nicely, and already slighty more onboard than the first Glasgow WoS meeting in The Horseshoe.
     
    Methinks this could be a biggie…

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  55. Paula Rose says:

    Methinks we should arrange a gathering of the wings in every city in Scotland on the 4th of April – I’ll arrange a venue in Brechin.

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  56. Ian Brotherhood says:

    @Paula Rose –
     
    Good shout.
     
    This would be a good time to knock our heids together and make sure there’s no major event of earth-shifting importance scheduled for that evening. I’m not aware of anything, but will keep the proverbials peeled.

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  57. Rod Mac says:

    I enjoyed The Horseshoe and look forward to this next meet

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  58. kendomacaroonbar says:

    TEST

    link to youtu.be

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  59. kendomacaroonbar says:

    FFS   Cant suss out how to place video within a post.  I’ve embedded a link and I’ve cut and pasted a link  neither seems to work.

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    • Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      “Cant suss out how to place video within a post.”

      Don’t. I don’t like videos embedded in comments, and usually remove the embedding where I spot it. Just post the link.

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  60. Ian Brotherhood says:

    @kendomacaroonbar –
     
    Splendid.
     
    Not sure what you were testing there, but you passed ‘with flying colours’. (Get it? See what I did there, eh?)

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  61. Ian Brotherhood says:

    @kendomacaroonbar –
     
    Know what you mean.
     
    From time to time the Youtube links seem to appear in a thread as they do on YT itself, even when you think you’ve just pasted a text-based link. No idea why that happens – I always try to just provide a link, but now and then the full frame has appeared in the comment thread – sorry, I can’t explain it, but it’s definitely happened before, and I only ever use the one way I know of copying links i.e. Ctrl C, then Ctrl V.

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  62. Thistle says:

    Hi Ian
    im up for next WoS get together!

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  63. john king says:

    Too far away for me, bein a fifer 
    just read your post Paula Rose, now that would work, any wingers from Kirkcaldy ,Dunfermline, Cowdenbeath that can meet up ?

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  64. john king says:

    Conan says
    “I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member.”
     
    Then go and never darken my towels again.

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  65. kendomacaroonbar says:

    Stu,
     
    The link still doesn’t work. Not that I specifically wanted to embedd that specific video, I just wanted to work out how to do it. Is it something I’m doing wrong ? 🙁

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  66. Conan_the_Librarian says:

    What about Queensferry John?

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  67. dmw42 says:

    @Ian Brotherhood
     
    Count me in for McGinns as well fella; an saffen the Lambrusco owr Krimble

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  68. kendomacaroonbar says:

    I’m trying to concoct a Wings Over Scotland cocktail for Ne’erday…   any suggestions ?

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  69. Ian Brotherhood says:

    @kendomacaroonbar –
     
    Try Sapphire Blue gin blended with Lidl beans (the concept is drawn from the writings of Major Bloodnok) – I’ve no idea what it’ll taste like, but, well, nothing ventured an’ aw that…a couple of ice cubes might help, a bit.

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  70. kendomacaroonbar says:

    @Ian,
     
    Thinking about using some of the mystery bottles at the back of the swally cupboard, but then again maybe not a good idea.  lol
     
    I have seen some Scottish Gin somewhere, will try to work on a ‘Rev Stu’ cocktail… cool, refreshing, and with a bit of a kick !

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  71. kendomacaroonbar says:

    Ian
     
    Lidle  beans ??

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  72. Ian Brotherhood says:

    Baked beans. From Lidl. The best that money can buy.
     
    BTW, it’s just a joke.
     
    Then again, when you think of Bloody Mary ingredients, it’s not so far away, just a bit of added roughage…I would try it meself but I can’t stand gin.

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  73. kendomacaroonbar says:

    @ Ian
     
    Ah, Ok,  thought it was some kind of coffee bean lol

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  74. Paula Rose says:

    Wings night out in every city in Scotland – April the fourth, yes lets get it organised.

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  75. Conan_the_Librarian says:

    What happened to last nights comments?
     
    Sneaking this; I’ll be dead if found online Christmas day…

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  76. Ian Brotherhood says:

    @Conan the Librarian –
     
    Strange. Don’t remember this ever happening before, but definitely a chunk of comments missing.
     
    I’ve a separate handwritten note of those interested in the McGinn’s night, and the last names I have are Jeannie, Ekindy and Alex Mci. If there were more posts into Quarantine last night then I won’t have a note of anyone after them – anyone have to repost?

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  77. kendomacaroonbar says:

    @ TREE OF LIBERTY
     
    mail me at kenmcdonald1@btopenworld.com please !!

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  78. K1 says:

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  79. Ian Brotherhood says:

    @K1 –
     
    Powerful stuff.

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  80. Quinine frae Angus says:

    I am definitely up for a Wings night out on 4th April. McGinns in Glasgow or a venue in Dundee would suit me. Love the idea of a “universal” Wings night out in every town on that night that we can make a thing of on Facebook etc, as that will be a handy trigger for enticing curious newbies to the site to find out what this Wings thing’s all about.
     
    Mind you, April 4th does seem quite a way off so I am also up for any wee-er Winger get-togethersin the meantime, such as the Friday night Albannach “local” idea that was mooted before…

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  81. Quinie frae Angus says:

    Whoops, at home for Christmas and trying to master the touchscreen on my Dad’s I-pad and I seem to have made a typo of my moniker. It’s meant to be “quinie” but the auto-correct turned me into “quinine”.

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  82. Quinie frae Angus says:

     apologies, my previous comment about Wingie nights oot doesn’t seem to have posted at all – maybe because Askimet doesn’t recognise ‘quinine’, so my later comment won’t make sense. Think I will give up and try again later when I am back on my trusty old laptop.

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    • Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      “apologies, my previous comment about Wingie nights oot doesn’t seem to have posted at all”

      It’s there now. It had to be manually approved because the mistype made you seem to Akismet to be a new user.

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  83. Conan_the_Librarian says:

    A whole raft of comments went AWOL Christmas Eve.
     

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  84. john king says:

    “What about Queensferry John?”
     
    Sorry Conan like Any Kerr I also been banned from the keyboard over Christmas, Queensferry would be great for me its only about ten minutes away over the bridge, anyone else up for it? 

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  85. john king says:

    “That’s seven of us now…bags me Yul Brynner.”
     
    Thats not fair, can we start again? because I just know I’ll end up being Brad Dexter, and you’ll all go: who? and I’ll go:exactly,
    besides he’s shot first,
    mind you with my alcohol limit being about half a pint of shandy that would be about right I suppose,
     sigh ok,  Brad Dexter it is then,
     I wouldn’t have even minded Eli Wallach mutter mutter.

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  86. john king says:

    Is it too late to change my mind?
    If not I want to be Charles Bronson,
    once described as a Clark Gable who’s been left out in the sun too long  🙂
    and I’ve got a really good cowboy hat, just ask Bloodnok, he tried to flog it grrr ,
     
    Ah’ll get ma chaps 🙁

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  87. john king says:

    any kerr?
    I meant to write Andy Kerr and even then I was wrong, should have been Robert Kerr, sorry Robert 🙂

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  88. Geoff Huijer says:

    Further mince to add to December’s quotes…
     

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  89. Paul Wright says:

    When it comes – my best wishes to all of you, from Paula and the Puffins.

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  90. A2 says:

    hi ho, 
    I’m up for the 4th although not entirely in control of my own timetable at the moment so I can’t make a 100% commitment

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  91. Ian Brotherhood says:

    @A2 –
     
    Cheers. No sweat at all.
     
    It’s just to get a rough idea, but the way thing are looking, it could be a busy nicht, and I don’t want to be responsible for booking a venue which can’t accommodate everyone who wants to be there.
     
    There will be more and more of these things organised as the year unfolds – we have to get them right. All of them.

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  92. Albamac says:

    Hi Ian,
    I’ve sent you an email, using the link you posted.  What about the cost of hiring the venue?  I’d be happy to contribute.

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  93. Thepnr says:

    Ian
    Best book me for two as I’d like the missus to come, my niece is getting married on the 5th (I’ve just been told) but I won’t be missing the 4th.
     
    See you all then.

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  94. Ian Brotherhood says:

    @Albamac –
    (Replied to you via e-mail before seeing your latest here.)
     
    Very kind offer – for which many thanks – but no need. Any pub owner who’s daft enough to ask room hire for an otherwise unused lounge on a Friday night (with upwards of 50 folk likely to attend?) will not be considered.
     
    We’re offering them a chance to host a ‘nation-changing’ celebration, and they’ll get the coverage and kudos that comes with it – they should be paying us!

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  95. Ian Brotherhood says:

    @Thepnr –
     
    Great. Duly added.
     
    Looking forward to meeting you.

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  96. Paula Rose says:

    Any of you non-idiots able to send me an idiot-proof guide about ‘twitter’? The Rev keeps going on about it, but I hate to ask as he’s so busy, what with rats, pussies and flirtatious eagles.

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  97. Aidan says:

    Ian Brotherhood
    Please add my name to the list for the gathering on April 4th. 

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  98. Albamac says:

    @Paula Rose
     
    Idiot-proofing Twitter?  I wouldn’t even look at the feasibility of that project.  🙂

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  99. Paula Rose says:

    Oh well – lets have a poem
     

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  100. Albamac says:

    @ Paula Rose
     
    Ignore me.  Ah couldnae organise a piss-up in a pub. 🙂

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  101. Albamac says:

    @Ian Brotherhood
     
    Me’s clueless!  Cannae even claim ‘sheltered life’ as an excuse.

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  102. Paula Rose says:

    Scotland, your supremely beautiful wings… I like that bit.

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  103. Paula Rose says:

    And I like the rev’s logo.

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  104. Albamac says:

    Wrote this about Brain Taylor’s ‘Blether with Brian’ and his love of poetry.
     
    Is it a plot, an aberration,
    diversion fae the fate o’ nation,
    tae while away the hoors in verse
    whilst clingin’ tae the Union’s erse?
    Change the subject, come ower witty,
    patronise them jist a bitty,
    gie them naewhere else tae go,
    hem them in, absorb the blow!
    A sheltered nook, for blethers couthy.
    Let country burn an’ play yer moothy!

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  105. Paula Rose says:

    I forget – are poems still verboten?

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  106. Albamac says:

    @Paula Rose
     
    The absence of poetry is deeply damaging to the soul of the individual and the nation.  I write because I think. I think therefore…
     
    Self-preservation?

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  107. Albamac says:

    @Paula Rose
     
    Sorry I haven’t commented on Sorley but, beautiful as the language may be, his work depresses me.  I don’t know why, but I can’t approach it without calling up dark clouds.

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  108. Thepnr says:

    Yeah maybe poems on the main pages are not the way to go. I did it once and got pelters?
     
    Not really a big deal but it did sort of change the thread so maybe here is the place to do it. I only associate with one poem and here it is:
     

    O Me! O Life!

    BY WALT WHITMAN

    Oh me! Oh life! of the questions of these recurring,
    Of the endless trains of the faithless, of cities fill’d with the foolish,
    Of myself forever reproaching myself, (for who more foolish than I, and who more faithless?)
    Of eyes that vainly crave the light, of the objects mean, of the struggle ever renew’d,
    Of the poor results of all, of the plodding and sordid crowds I see around me,
    Of the empty and useless years of the rest, with the rest me intertwined,
    The question, O me! so sad, recurring—What good amid these, O me, O life?

                                           Answer.
    That you are here—that life exists and identity,
    That the powerful play goes on, and you may contribute a verse.

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  109. Paula Rose says:

    link to ssa.nls.uk

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  110. Paula Rose says:

    Just another English brother, who gives a willie rub.

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  111. Training Day says:

    @ian
    Ian, you have my email address bud – I intend to be there on the 4th along with two others.  Feel free to drop me a line with arrangements any time. Cheers.

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  112. Ian Brotherhood, this boring auld bastard is going, assuming am naw deid, regards,

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  113. Ian Brotherhood says:

    Here’s the list of those regulars intending to attend WoS social on Friday April 4th, provisionally at McGinns Bar, Hope St, Glasgow.
     
    If I’ve missed you out, or you want non-WoS family/friends to be added, please let me know this evening – intend to get it booked this week.
     
    Iain & Karen Hamilton
     
    Kininvie
     
    Conan the Librarian
     
    Quinie frae Angus
     
    The Man in the Jar
     
    Alex Taylor
     
    Thepnr (2)
     
    Twenty14
     
    Chlocoderic
     
    Patrician
     
    cearc
     
    scaredy cat
     
    spout
     
    Rod Mac
     
    Thistle
     
    dmw42
     
    Dave McEwan Hill
     
    madmurph
     
    velofello
     
    fairliered
     
    Jeannie
     
    EKindy
     
    Alex Mci
     
    XSticks
     
    Steve Duncan
     
    A2
     
    Ken500
     
    Albamac
     
    Desimond (2)
     
    Aidan
     
    Robert Kerr
     
    Macart
     
    The Tree of Liberty
     
    Training Day (3)

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  114. Paula Rose says:

    Here’s the list of those regulars intending to attend WoS social on Friday April 4th, provisionally at The ‘Caley’, Southesk St, Brechin. If I’ve missed you out, or you want non-WoS family/friends to be added, please let me know this evening – intend to get it booked this week.
     
    Better Together St Kilda (39)

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  115. Ian Brotherhood says:

    @Paula Rose – 
     
    I’d love to attend but I’m a smoker and someone told me no puffin was allowed.

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  116. desimond says:

    For the McGinns night, will any Better Together loving English Celebrities be in attendance….strange that The Herald run such a story yet cant even name a Union loving lovebomber!

    Also…is it just a get together or maybe a wee fundraiser?

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  117. Ian Brotherhood says:

    @desimond –
     
    You never know. Maybe we can get Ant & Dec? (I’ll make sure they get wee stickers so we know for sure which one’s which.)
     
    So far as fundraising etc goes, I don’t know. I’m only concerned with getting the ball rolling, and there does seem to be enough interest, so all I’ll be doing is finding a safe, convenient venue suitable for the numbers involved. Beyond that, it’s up to you and everyone else to decide what you want to do on the nicht.
     
    I’ll be sure to let the McGinn’s manager know who we are and what the purpose of the get-together is – I’m confident there won’t be any problems, but it’s better to be above-board. We certainly don’t need anyone hassling us on the night, saying it’s a political gathering of some kind. If they don’t like it? I’ll keep asking around until I find somewhere.
     
    I’ll also ask what they have, or can provide, by way of a PA system etc. If youse want to organise live music, or bring pre-recorded stuff, have a DJ, whatever, I’m sure we have more than enough talented folk to do an impromptu gig if that’s what folk would prefer.
     
    Personally speaking, I just want to have a good night and meet more Wingers, and that needn’t involve more than sitting around talking. But there’s more than one way to skin a proverbial, and I’m up for anything, so long as it doesn’t involve drinking gin.

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  118. Kendomacaroonbar says:

    Guys,
     
    i have received the WOS car stickers ( 18 cm x 7 cm ) with the ‘old’ official logo and will happily make them available to any interested party. 
     
    I don’t plan to charge for these puppies, although a donation towards postage would be appreciated.
     
    I can be reached on kenmcdonald1@btopenworld.com
     
    Yours aye
     
    Ken

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  119. Thistle says:

    Looking forward to WoS meetup on 4th April 🙂
     
    Just a reminder we have two events this month that we are live streaming and filming…
     
    22/01/2014 Alan Bissett with MD Michelle Thomson and Ivan McKee from Business for Scotland from The Glad Cafe, Shawlands, Glasgow.
     
    23/01/2014 Labour for Independence at STUC building, 333 Woodlands Road, Glasgow
     
    Details at link to facebook.com

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  120. Kendomacaroonbar says:

    Car Sticker SAE to be sent to :    First Come First Served basis – limited supply.
     
    Ken McDonald
    Corrymeela
    Middleton Lane
    Craigendoran
    HELENSBURGH G84 7BB,  Argyll & Bute

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  121. Lobeydosser says:

    Hello Ian, Didn’t put my name down but is it possible to come along to the do in McGinns. Would love the chance to meet my fellow Wingsters. There will be 2 of us coming if that cool with you.

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  122. Patrician says:

    @Kendomacaroonbar.

    I don’t visit this section often and I have just seen your post about Car Stickers. Are these the Wings Over Scotland ones? And do you have any left?

    Reply
  123. kendomacaroonbar says:

    @Patrician

    Correct, they are WoS rear window stickers and yes they are available.

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  124. Ian Brotherhood says:

    @Lobeydosser –

    Done.

    Watch this space for details as and when. Cheers.

    Reply
  125. CameronB says:

    I came across this interesting interpretation of Lockerbie, and wondered if anyone has any thoughts, or would wish to ask Morag what she thinks.

    link to globalresearch.ca

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  126. kendomacaroonbar, thank you very much for the car stickers and the business cards. There will be an extra fiver for the Rev, in the crowd funding.

    p.s. who do you use for the business cards?

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  127. Kendomacaroonbar says:

    @Tree of Liberty.

    My pleasure.

    The Aye Right cards were given to me by Alex Taylor. He obtained the artwork from a n other and just got them printed I think.

    BTW, if you look further up the posts you might notice I was trying to send you the stickers first, since it was your prompting months ago that convinced me to go ahead and print the darn things 🙂 Did you not see it ? 🙂

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  128. kendomacaroonbar, ah just found Quarantine last week! Anyway, thanks again, and your name I may forget, but your kindness, never. Regards,

    Reply
  129. Albalha says:

    balharry1@yahoo.com

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  130. Archie [not Erchie] says:

    @ Major B – I am a Kenyaphile having schooled there and been back to Nairobi/Nakuru over the last 7 years or so. A failed business project in Nakuru really scunnered me however out of it all I maintained a contact in Kampala [GGaba].

    I help out financially with a friend in Ggaba each month which pays for her rent. This friend is the admin and admissions secretary to the Ggaba Catholic Seminary. I have tried at times to send birthday and Christmas parcels which have always gone missing.

    You will find picture of Prisca on my Facebook [Archie Melrose] and you can contact me initially there. I had hoped to contact you previous to your last visit to Uganda but was too late to ask. In the future, if you are in agreement I would love to send a small care package to Prisca complete with Saltire. She is a YES vote and is aware of our Scottish heritage. Thanks and await your response.

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  131. K1 says:

    One for the upbeat A side.

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  132. Paula Rose says:

    Most of my life I have walked down a street at least once a day – and one thing has never changed. Outside newsagents are boards with headlines, Gilbert and George (London based artists) often use them as part of collage.

    When I was young we used to swap what was there for sheets advertising punk gigs, and later political stuff – no social media then.

    Easy – stencil or even a felt pen, imagine…

    Financial Times

    Every Scot

    Better Off

    By £600

    On Indy

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  133. clochoderic says:

    Can anyone help?

    Last week I responded to a post by a reader here on Wings who was offering “Aye, Right” leaflets – Gavin Lessels is his name. I have lost his phone number and have searched the threads for his original post but without a result.

    I can be contacted at:

    rabrant@hotmail.com

    Thanks in advance.

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  134. twenty14 says:

    @ ian Brotherhood – me thinks access out may be a bigger problem 🙂

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  135. twenty14 says:

    @ Ian Brotherhood _ another possible venue would be The Griffin., They have a smaller pub that they hire out for private parties. We once held a family party for no other reason that we only seen the rest of the Family at funerals. it has its own bar and they allowed us to use laptop to have pics of our family projected on to the wall plus we played our own music. Think it holds over 50 – would have to check out

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  136. Ian Brotherhood says:

    @twenty14 –

    Ha! Indeed…we can take turns rolling each other down the stairs.

    I know the bit of the Griffin you mean – the Griffinette? Prob is, I’ve already got 43 names from WoS alone, and the probable number turning up, if we did it, say, this week-end, would likely be nearer 60-70. With another seven weeks to go, word getting about? Hmmm… we may have to look at somewhere bigger again.

    Nice ‘problem’ to have, but I’ll go and check out McGinn’s anyway, then we can start putting some bones on this.

    Watch this space!

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  137. twenty14 says:

    Cheers Ian B – I’m only replying to get rid of the number of ” death ” at top of comment page 🙂

    Reply
  138. Bugger (the Panda) says:

    quarantine test

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  139. Croompenstein says:

    Chairchoob

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  140. castle hills chavie says:

    bug’rit..Hand and shrimp, I’m looking at you!!

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  141. James Kay says:

    Poisson!

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  142. castle hills chavie says:

    Shi’ite armageddon outta here.

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  143. jingly says:

    login test

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  144. dmw42 says:

    oh happy days…

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  145. Croompenstein says:

    Flipper

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  146. castle hills chavie says:

    whoops missed the e, sorry rev

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  147. Croompenstein says:

    Alec?

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  148. liz says:

    logging in

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  149. liz says:

    gday

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  150. Croompenstein says:

    bbc?

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  151. liz says:

    hello

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  152. Bugger (the Panda) says:

    knickers

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  153. TJenny says:

    1,2

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  154. K1 says:

    testing

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  155. K1 says:

    scissors

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  156. liz says:

    nice time

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  157. Croompenstein says:

    Ruthie?

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  158. Mary Bruce says:

    Refresh

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  159. kininvie says:

    check

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  160. Fairliered says:

    Pathetic Quay

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  161. Ian Brotherhood says:

    Quarantine 2 really needed more than ever…

    Reply
  162. Steve B says:

    Testing 1,2,3

    Also missing the page arrows to get here — it’s a real pain getting all the way down here on my Andoid tablet 🙂

    Reply
  163. Fiona says:

    lost the posts again. Why does this happen?

    Reply
    • Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      “lost the posts again. Why does this happen?”

      I’ve been explaining for days now what’s happening. The only things being deleted are the one-word posts people use to get past caching measures and read the rest of the comments. If anything else is vanishing, give me some useful information about it.

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  164. Dick Gaughan says:

    ping

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  165. Steve B says:

    Refreshers – anyone remember them? 🙂

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  166. jingly jangly says:

    Holy Isle

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  167. jingly jangly says:

    Holy Isle

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  168. Dick Gaughan says:

    post refresh

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  169. jingly jangly says:

    Islay

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  170. jingly jangly says:

    sanda

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  171. Croompenstein says:

    refresh page

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  172. dmw42 says:

    refresh page

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  173. jingly jangly says:

    gigha

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  174. kininvie says:

    barking mad

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  175. Keef says:

    Patience. Scotland will be Free.

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  176. jingly jangly says:

    Davaar (at high tide)

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  177. Steve B says:

    A morning refresh . . .

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  178. Bevrijdingsdag says:

    Bow-Wow-weeeeh

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  179. jingly jangly says:

    Big Cumbrae

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  180. liz says:

    lgging in

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  181. Croompenstein says:

    JoLa

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  182. liz says:

    loggingin

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  183. kendomacaroonbar says:

    Wings stickers

    Pls send SAE envelope ( 8 x 4 inch ) and mark numbers required on the back of the envelope

    Ken McDonald
    Corrymeela
    Middleton Lane
    Helensburgh G84 7BB Argyll & Bute

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  184. patronsaintofcats says:

    test

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  185. Grahame says:

    @kendomacaroonbar

    SAE in the post today. –

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  186. Grahame says:

    @kendomacaroonbar

    – look out for the Wings Logo on the envelope 🙂

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  187. ian foulds says:

    For the benefit of the No (soft and hard) as well as the Don’t know camps –

    It’s not about Alex Salmond, the SNP and especially not ‘ the English’.

    It is about throwing off the shackles of the Westminster Parliamentary Union for the greater good and future of our Country.

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  188. Silverytay says:

    Ken
    meant to say thanks for the prompt dispatch of the W.O.S car stickers .
    I moved house not long ago and have been up to my eyes in it ever since .
    yours for Scotland
    Mike McCabe

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  189. kendomacaroonbar says:

    My pleasure Mike. I’ve got a few left, so if you need any more please just ask.

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  190. Silverytay says:

    Ken
    I am now saving all my pennies for the Rev’s big fund raiser but if I need any more I will give you a shout .

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  191. Grahame says:

    to save going off topic in other threads i’ll just leave a link to the Edinburgh YES Ad Trailer Fundraiser – any donations gratefully received.

    We’ve just commissioned the first posters for trailer number 1. (they’ll be delivered and on the trailer tomorrow)

    if Rev Stu is reading his please drop me an email and we’ll see what we can do with regards to a Wings Over Scotland banner for one of them !

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  192. Caroline Corfield says:

    I’ve been doing so well, but I want to see the 40 comments and I can’t remember is it refresh page or page refresh or something else entirely…

    Btw the cybernat badge arrived, minus stamp, but not a problem, thanks.

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  193. Grahame says:

    @Kendomacaroonbar

    just doing my bit for the cause –

    We made a concious decision at work to advertise Business for Scotland on our till receipts link to twitter.com

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  194. callum says:

    refresh

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  195. Grahame says:

    Aye Right Cards

    just ordered 15000 Aye Right postcards for distribution around Edinburgh West. – A6 on super thick 300GSM card a rather cheap £203.00

    if anyone wants to order some please contact yesedinburghwest@gmail.com with your quantities and we’ll see what price our friendly printer can do for you

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  196. Grahame says:

    @Kendomacaroonbar

    notice my postage wasn’t quite enough, do you want me to PAYPAL you the difference ? or just donate it to Wings ?

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  197. Kendomacaroonbar says:

    @Grahame,

    My pleasure 🙂

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  198. Boorach says:

    @ Kendomacaroonbar

    Do you have any of the Wings stickers left Ken?

    If yes please fwd contact details to bill_urquhart@hotmail.com.

    Many thanks

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  199. john king says:

    “Quarantine 2 really needed more than ever…”

    Or just turn it upside down so the newest posts are at the top instead of having to read Longshankers crap ad nauseum while waiting for my computer to let me scroll to the bottom,
    Anyway its you I want to speak to Ian, is there any news on the wings night out?
    the wife wants to know what arrangements we need to make, I hope its still on,
    I was thinking about asking Rolftheganger to go, what do you think, he’s never (to my knowledge) posted on wings but he’s the real deal (one of us) 🙂

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  200. RolftheGanger says:

    As requested I am lodging a post on here for jdmank
    RolftheGanger

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  201. SquareHaggis says:

    HI Stu, don’t know what happened on the “sticking with the script” thread, something clearly went awry with my posts there, sorry 🙁

    If you get a minute could I ask you to delete my mis-posts at 10.24 am and 10.27 am as they kind of spoiled the thread.

    Eternally greatful and eternally sorry for the c0nFUsi0n!

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  202. jingly jangly says:

    Ian Brotherhood, Ive forgotten the date when is it again?

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  203. Ian Brotherhood says:

    @John king & jingly jangly –

    April 4th, The Counting House, Glasgow, St. Vincent place/George Square, anytime after 7/7.30.

    I’ll be there early anyway – hoping Rev will establish new ‘Quarantine’ so we can discuss this stuff without disrupting regular threads.

    Cheers, as ever.

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  204. Conan_the_Librarian says:

    @ Ian Brotherhood

    It took me long enough to find out where McGinn’s was.

    Is it a bigger venue?

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  205. Ian Brotherhood says:

    @Conan the Librarian –

    I know mister, and I’m sorry. McGinn’s was my first choice too, but sadly, the space is no more.

    Counting House is much bigger and better for all sorts of reasons. Hope you can still make it, but if not, there is a McGinns-related place we may be able to use for other sessions. I’ll send in details later today.

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  206. Ian Brotherhood says:

    Now here’s a thing –

    Yesterday, after booking The Counting House, went back to have a chat with the manageress of McGinn’s.

    She also manages the Quarter Gill, just down the road. I checked the lounge there a few weeks ago, but it’s a tad on the small side for April 4th. Lovely wee windowless old-fashioned style lounge, does occasional functions.

    I asked her how many folk she’d need for it to be worthwhile opening. Fifteen, twenty would be enough. To cut a long proverbial short – we could have that lounge pretty much anytime we want, including weekends. I was upfront with her about who we are – Yes supporters, some party-affiliated, most not. She never batted an eye. She was particularly keen on the idea of us playing music as she seems to be into the folk scene and quoted a few names I didn’t recognise.

    Anyway, I told her I’d float the idea here and let her know. The place could become a wee hub for anyone passing through Glasgow – our own meeting place. If anyone’s up for it, we could try a trial run anytime – if it’s a go-er, and we get half-decent numbers, there’s no reason why it can’t become a really useful venue all the way up to September and beyond, and with word-of-mouth, we could attract many non-Wings people there, especially if they know it’s safe and welcoming, no danger in openly discussing the stuff that they might be wary of airing elsewhere.

    Just as a wee test, is anyone up for a session next Friday? If I get fifteen or more definites by tomorrow night I’ll call her on Monday.

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  207. jingly jangly says:

    Ian

    Myself and Rab C will be there, cu then.

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  208. jingly jangly says:

    Ian just read your last post, just so theres no confusion, I meant Rab C and I will be there on April 4th.

    Maybe worth mentioning that the CND march in Glasgow is on the 5th April, so we can make a weekend of it!!!!

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  209. Desimond says:

    @Ian Brotherhood

    Well done that man. I dont get back from London commute until late this Friday Im afraid but most saturdays are fine. Best of luck with it. My mates and I just working on latest Referendum LP so would be happy to perform anytime that suits.

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  210. Ian Brotherhood says:

    @jingly-jangly –

    I had you on the list, but not Rab C. You’re both down now as definities. Thanks.

    @Desimond –

    Great stuff. Cheers.

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  211. twenty14 says:

    The counting House is 2 mins from Queen St and 5 mins from Central station – – easy access to transport for everyone

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  212. john king says:

    Rolf sorry I’ve been installing a new computer today and haven’t seen your reply until now, as you saw from my post and Ian Brotherhoods comments were having a wings get together in the counting house in Glasgow the evening of the forth of April, it would be great if you came along I’m absolutely sure the Wings crowd would be happy to welcome you as would I, you may know me better a jdman
    It would be great to see you there, why dont you come along?

    Reply
    • RolftheGanger says:

      Hello John
      Thanks for the invitation, but I am not able to attend.
      Hope the meeting goes well.
      John McAteer, one time National Organiser, SNP, used to talk of the energy renewing power of such meetings as ‘body heat” Very useful for recharging one’s batteries.
      Regards, RtG

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  213. Ian Brotherhood says:

    @John King –

    Sorry mister, I missed your reference to Rolf – I’ve stuck him on the list as a possible. Hope he doesn’t mind!

    It’s worth pointing out that this isn’t a formal do – no-one will be vetting us, checking names, or anything like that. I only asked for names so that I’d have an idea of numbers, but with it being a big place, there’s no sweat. Everyone should feel free to bring whoever they like, and there’s no need for me to know all the names.

    Put it this way – if people join us on the night who’ve never heard of Wings in their lives, but end up talking to us and finding out what’re doing, that’s got to be good.

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  214. Quinie frae Angus says:

    @Ian Brotherhood

    Hi, do you mean the Quarter Gill in Partick? Or is there another Quarter Gill?

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  215. Ian Brotherhood says:

    @Quinie frae Angus –

    Sorry, I should’ve explained – the one I’m on about is 2 minutes walk from the Argyle St exit of Glasgow Central.

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  216. The Man in the Jar says:

    For anyone attending the Counting House doo or any other wings function heres a wee something that might raise a laugh or two.

    link to funkybunky.co.uk

    I find the Farage, Brown and Hauge ones particularly disturbing.

    I myself am probably about 80% certain to attend.

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  217. john king says:

    I just noticed the Counting house is a Wetherspoons pub Ian ,nice one,
    much cheapness 🙂
    and the grubs pretty decent as well.

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  218. john king says:

    Btw Ian did you see my post re the badges, 100 badges made to spec for about 58quid, could have the wings logo and the name of the individual on them so we all know who each other is,
    what do you think?
    we could crowd fund that in about ,oh I don’t know? a nano second.:)

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  219. scaredy cat says:

    Quick question.

    Have you booked a function room in the Counting House? As a female, it can be a bit intimidating going into a pub alone. How do I know where/who you are?

    Are you all going to be sitting under a big WoS flag?

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  220. Ian Brotherhood says:

    @John King –

    re badges. I was just going to bring a roll of sticky labels and a bingo pen, but I suppose people might want to make their own, or perhaps come dressed as their Wings handle – mind boggles to think what BtP would look like…

    @Scaredy Cat –

    Fret not. The Counting House really isn’t a ‘man’s’ pub. It’s usually full of office-workers, parties of girls on Hen nights etc. And yes, we’ll be conspicuous enough – just remember to make a sharp left as soon as you go in – you won’t miss us.

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  221. Paula Rose says:

    Plans for Wings night in Brechin going well have booked two bar stools at the Caley.

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  222. ronnie anderson says:

    Rev, ma loggin keeps disapearing on every story refresh.

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  223. Roll_On_2014 says:

    Test:

    link to youtu.be

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  224. David says:

    link to jdwetherspoon.co.uk

    Above is the link to the Counting House webpage. Iain Brotherhood, it may be worth confirming that wheelchair users have full access to the pub, using (I think) the entrance on the George Square side of the building:

    link to euansguide.com

    I won’t be attending, but I wish I were!

    As for the Quarter Gill in Oswald Street (near The Arches), the lounge is upstairs, and I don’t remember there being a lift. (Things might have changed in ten years, though.) This is more of a traditional pub, i.e. you won’t mistake it for a wine bar! 😉 It is however nice and private, with a great central location.

    Just typing this is making me homesick for proper pubs, there are none anywhere near me at present. So I’ll give a wee shout-out to anyone who knows Glasgow’s Laurieston Bar, south of the river, at the corner of Bridge St. and Nelson St. It’s got a tv, but the fixtures and fittings are pure 1950s, and all the better for it. The lounge was used as a location for a short scene in Ewen McGregor’s 2003 film “Young Adam”.

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  225. john king says:

    Wings handle – mind boggles to think what BtP would look like…

    Ahem have you seen my avatar I would need to come dressed as a 12 y/o schoolboy 😉

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  226. Thepnr says:

    Just sneaking in again via quarantine 🙂

    Ian, is that Counting house confirmed then for the 4th? Just want to book a place to stay. Did you get much feedback on the Quarter Gill?

    Anybody know why we haven’t seen many posts from ronnie recently or have I missed them?

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  227. Ian Brotherhood says:

    @John King –

    ‘Aherm’ indeed – it’s not that sort of a social.

    @Thepnr –

    Definite. Nae doots aboot it. All welcome – more the merrier.

    On Quarter Gill, some interest, but it’s only been discussed here in Quarantine so far – once word gets about I’m sure we’ll get enough interest to give it a dry-run. (Not the most apt phrase for a pub session, but you know what I mean…)

    Hopefully we’ll get a definite Friday (or other weekend night) arranged and booked before the month is out, and make a special appeal to those of a musical bent to bring their instruments. Could be the start of something a wee bit special. (I might even dig out my Triangle and give it a seeing-to with the old Brasso.)

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  228. Thepnr says:

    Cheers Ian.

    No news on ronnie though?

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  229. Thepnr says:

    ronnie, I see you sneaked a post in while I wasn’t looking or maybe I just didn’t open my eyes?

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  230. Thepnr says:

    Ian
    At next weeks Labour Conference, Allan Grogan will be taking part in a debate with Margaret Curran and Henry McLeish in a fringe meeting on the Saturday. If you fancy that weekend in Dundee you know my email.

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  231. Ian Brotherhood says:

    @Thepnr –

    Sorry for slow response – have barely been on this, keeps freezing.

    Kind offer mister, but this is exam time for me, I’m up to me ears in all-sorts. But I’ll certainly look out for that meeting, sounds a good one.

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  232. Breastplate says:

    @ Ian Brotherhood, I’m going to be at my brother’s birthday party that night but hoping to get along for a pint or two if that’s OK.

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  233. William Duguid says:

    Expecting to make it along to the Counting House on 4 April also.

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  234. Thepnr says:

    @Ian Brotherhood

    No problem Ian, good luck with the exams.

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  235. Scotrock says:

    Hope to make it on the 4th also if there is any room?

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  236. ronnie anderson says:

    Ian ah forgot to say I might have 1or 2 people with me on

    the 4 April to help me,is that ok.

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  237. ronnie anderson says:

    Ian how many Lady Wingers or Partners going, an naw am no

    on the hunt,just a wee suprize.

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  238. Paula Rose says:

    The two bar stools are still booked at the ‘Caley’ on Southesk Street, Brechin, April 4th -any takers?

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  239. Ian Brotherhood says:

    @Scotrock – that’s you on the list. Bring whoever you like, no bother – the numbers won’t be a problem, there’s plenty room.

    @ronnie – of course man, the more the merrier. I’ll start plugging it again next week to remind folk, but even as it is I reckon we’re looking at approx 70 or 80 folk, and if even half of them brings pals or partners then it could be a big yin!

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  240. Alan Mackintosh says:

    @ Ian brotherhood

    You were asking about symbols, for ¿ you need to press Alt key and type 168. For ¡ Alt and 173. There is a heap of others so play around and find out 🙂

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  241. Oneironaut says:

    @Alan Mackintosh
    For Windows systems there’s also the Character Map, which will show you all possible letters, numbers and symbols for every font installed on your system.

    On Windows XP, it’s at “Start -> All Programs -> Accessories -> System Tools -> Character Map”
    Not sure if it’s in the same place on other versions of Windows.

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  242. john king says:

    Ronnie Anderson says
    “Ian how many Lady Wingers or Partners going, an naw am no

    on the hunt,just a wee suprize.”

    The wife’s going Ronnie but she assured me if she as much as sees a tea cosy she’s out of there 🙂

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  243. john king says:

    Scotrock says
    “!Hope to make it on the 4th also if there is any room?”

    How much room do you need? planning on bringing your elephant? 🙂
    heres the qualification for entry
    are you a winger?
    if the answer to the above is yes then there’s room for you, and your elephant, as long as he doesn’t drink to much 😉

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  244. CameronB says:

    WARNING

    Very hard playlist.

    Boogie Down Productions – Love’s Gonna Get’cha (Material Love)
    link to youtube.com

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  245. CameronB says:

    Wrong playlist. It should have started with Lauren Hill, before BDP. Well worth it anyway.

    Reply
  246. john king says:

    I take it your going to the Counting House on the 4th Cameron?

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  247. liz says:

    @Ian Brotherhood – I have mentioned before on other threads that I will be coming with possibly 2 others but it might have got lost in general discussion as the threads move on really quickly.

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  248. Paula Rose says:

    Ooh lookie

    link to facebook.com

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  249. Paula Rose says:

    @ CameronB – whips etc await xx

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  250. Paula Rose says:

    kisses darlings

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  251. Thepnr says:

    DDos

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  252. Cactus says:

    Cactus Jack.
    Changing username to Cactus, cheers.

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  253. dramfineday says:

    Hi Morag

    Re Badges etc

    can you drop me a mail at pentland52-letters@yahoo.co.uk

    I’ll put you in touch with our organiser who will she if she can help

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  254. Morag says:

    Dramfineday, despite sitting here right on the Pentlands I’m with Yes Borders, and we have our own organiser and this is the sort of thing that should be sorted out for everyone.

    I’m reluctant to poach material from another group when we have our own group and in fact we had a successful fundraiser helped along very much by Wings readers. It’s the availability of the things in general that bothers me. Why was there nothing on the web site even yesterday? Why aren’t the things widely available?

    I’ll order some of the enamel ones myself now they’re back on the web site. I can afford to pay for them. But jings, they don’t even offer a reduction for a bulk buy. If I want 10 I still have to shell out £20.

    Why are Yes Scotland in general making this all so difficult for people who want to help?

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  255. dramfineday says:

    Hi Morag

    no worries, happy to help if you need it, hence the offer. I had the erroneous view that you were trying to cover the patch on your own, didn’t realise you were in the Borders team.

    Offer remains open.

    Kind regards

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  256. Morag says:

    Thanks, offer very much appreciated. I’m covering the upper Lyne valley for Yes Borders. I’ve been agitating with them for decent badges and posters, and yesterday someone dropped off a roll of bright red Yes STICKERS and one single rather tatty poster. (!)

    All we seem to have at Yes events are these big bright coloured tin badges, and I’ve seen people pick them up and put them down again. I’ve also seen one of our ladies trying to ration the blue ones to get people to take the other colours, without much success. I’ve taken some to contacts of my own who have asked for badges, and they have been refused. They point to my own badge, the one John Finnie took off his own lapel and gave to me, and say, have you any like that. And I have to say no I haven’t.

    Why is this even an issue? We’re not that short of money. It’s the availability of quality materials that’s the problem.

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  257. Paula Rose says:

    Going Live…
    Is tonight the night? Is it true that this evening BBC Scotland’s new, classy and (allegedly) controversial replacement for Newsnicht will air for the first time and change the political landscape? Well, let’s hope so.

    It isn’t just the BBC that needs a good show, it’s Scotland. We have been dismally served by the national broadcaster in our hour of referendum need and this is the last hope that something can be saved from the wreckage of Kenny McQuarrie and John Boothman’s uninspired handling of this key role in our society.

    I’m optimistic, although I said that about the £500,000 of extra money forced into McQuarrie’s pocket by a new Director General desperate to save the corporation’s reputation and look what that gave us…Sanjeev ‘blethering’ and dated bollocks about how today’s players are connected through personal links – I kent his faither for the digital age.

    In all this time the only shows that impressed me on television and met what to my eye is an appropriate professional standard in content and style were Allan Little’s exploration of Scandinavia and the James Cook presented Question Time format touring the country – neither made by the referendum unit. Nothing in all this time has been unmissable. No programme on BBC or Scottish has lit a fire and become the talk of the steamie, a sad reflection on complacent and tired broadcasting in Scotland.

    And, as we prepare to wave off Paxo from big Newsnight, it is a startling fact that not one of our front line of interviewers has come close to ripping up the politicians and exposing them. No one has earned the crown of King, or Queen, Tormentor. Even Andrew Neil did a job on Salmond and lately, on Douglas Alexander, in a way we rarely see here. The closest we have come is the now-disappeared Gordon Brewer playing innocent daft laddie and letting Johann Lamont blast craters in both feet with a toe-curling explanation of her devolution plans, and the general performance of Bernard Ponsonby whose thundering theatricality always threatens to explode if he gets a wrong answer. I suffer from interaction reflex which means I know exactly where the interviewer should intervene to challenge and shout at the screen to tell them – the practical application of airwave transmission technology not being my strong point.

    Everywhere I go in this debate, the same questions come up…what’s wrong with the BBC? Why aren’t the interviewers any good? They’re not informing us…

    Well tonight is the BBC’s last chance and there are sound reasons to think it may work. The first is simple: It has to. The coverage has been so peely wally and the Beeb’s journalistic reputation so shredded, that it is imperative that it ends this campaign on a high. I truly hope so. The criticism is not going away after the vote in September – dissatisfaction is high and change demanded. I think Yes will carry on and there could well be a coordinated campaign of non-payment of the licence fee. 100,000 should do it.

    Then there is the key person – the presenter. From what I know Sarah Smith is a real pro. She exudes the charisma of a media heavyweight, seems at ease with the exposure and remains grounded. She is a publicity trigger – note the space devoted to her so far in the Press saying absolutely nothing but it’s nice to be back in Scotland! How the managers at PQ love all that stuff. To them, if she appears in the Scotsman mag, their job is done. The people like her, so that’ll do. Sadly the management forget that what counts isn’t appearances but content, a lesson they forgot many years ago.

    I don’t buy all this Daughter of John stuff either. It’s insulting to any intelligent person to suggest they will think or vote like daddy. I didn’t. I don’t think I agreed with a single political point my dad every made. The trick in broadcasting is to make sure the audience doesn’t know your own view however they like to think they do. I have letters of complaint from Lib Dems, Tories, Nats and Labour and got a reputation for being pro independence because I understood the subject and asked the questions that blew away or challenged the Unionist orthodoxy- that’s all. But in tribal Scotland, you’re either in our gang or you’re in somebody else’s and frankly, Labour couldn’t operate any other way. When I came out for Yes all the clever dicks said: Told you so. Then a few weeks later a senior Labour person told me he’d had a conversation with a BBC executive and told him he was convinced from listening to me that I was a Tory!

    I don’t fear for her impartiality for a moment and it’s important she doesn’t let that get to her either. She must be herself and allow her own style and approach to come out. I have one concern though and it’s beyond her ability to change it. I know from experience how important it is to have enough background knowledge and detail to pick up the contradictions and hypocrisies as they spew out live before you and judge which is worth pursuing and which isn’t. A generalised understanding of modern Scottish politics may not be enough to achieve this and the fact is that Sarah has lived outside Scotland throughout the devolution years leaves her at a disadvantage. Be sure – her politician adversaries will know that.

    Therefore what she needs is informed back-up at the pre-programme briefing stage and in her ear while on air and that will be up to the output producer. I don’t know who that will be but I understand the two key producers from Newsnight, both political experts, are reassigned to Reporting Scotland instead.

    The bigger issue with this programme is its leadership. Marcus Ryder is the editor and that should send shockwaves through the team as to my knowledge he has no interest in Scottish politics and has never expressed any. He was editor of the investigations section where a major role was to sell programmes to the network so his focus was always on what London wanted. His understanding of Scotland is, by repute, scant. One producer tells of him watching a clip of Nicola Sturgeon circa 2008 and saying: If that’s what the SNP are claiming, we’d better get a reaction from the Scottish government – only to be quietly told the SNP WERE the government…

    There is also a big difference between looking after a programme which transmits weekly, or only sporadically and handling the pressure of nightly transmission. Even four nights a week generates a relentless weight of effort to get the story, keep it fresh and make it controversial – which seems to be one of the aims. With a reporter as good as Lucy Adams they may be expecting to break news not just follow up the morning papers…we’ll see. That needs proper production back up, planning and prep time as well as camera crews available and editing access. It is also many times harder to generate controversy when you are tied to the strict rules on balance which apply from Sunday.

    Any new show is exciting but I do question why they are only starting a new format less than four moths from voting. All programmes need time to establish and bed down, win over an audience, earn trust and become authoritative. I argued that this is what should have been done soon after the SNP won in 2011 and it would have been the broadcasting focus of the whole debate. And, glad as I am about both Smith and Adams, was there really nobody already in the BBC who had earned the right to join a new programme? One of the great strengths of the BBC was that it trained the broadcasters of the future. That a new show at a vital time is dependent on hiring in new staff is hardly an advert for the nurturing of talent at PQ, just as the hiring of Jim Naughtie gave a message that London was sending someone north to help the Scots cope with a tricky story. Anyway, good luck to them all.

    By the way, who’s replacing Gary Robertson, unceremoniously banjoed from GMS?

    (You may have noticed the conventional media is beavering away for someone to ‘blame’ for the UKIP election. Call me old fashioned but I blame the voters – the ones who voted UKIP, no? That’s how it works. Who knows why a few thousand more went for them and a few thousand didn’t back the SNP but it’s a bit contrived to blame Salmond for someone else getting elected. It may have been the wrong thing to make the sixth seat a Them or Us choice but that’s only in retrospect. Like most of the mainstream commentators, they’re smart after the event. I think only Macwhirter got close to calling that in advance. It’s as likely that Tasmina’s Tory past turned off enough, that the collapse of the Lib Dems diverted a few to UKIP, that the Tory and Labour appeasement of anti immigrant sentiment pushed some over or that the effect of a small turn out was all that was needed. The triumphalism of Adam Tomkins, Margaret Curran and sundry others pretending to be progressives will be remembered as one of the nauseating highlights of what for them has been a despicable campaign.

    How the Times today in a leader could suggest that momentum behind Yes had stalled because the SNP didn’t add to their total compared to last time looks like a search for another twig to flay the dug. Is there a paper or a commentator who has recently pointed out the extraordinary achievement of the SNP in remaining not only in power but ahead of their rivals in every measure of opinion seven years after entering power? Has Cameron done that? The pro Union bias is to assert that the Euro elections backfired on Yes because they relied on UKIP being shut out. I would have deeply preferred that. But surely they miss the obvious – that the odious Coburn, a man who doesn’t fit the stereotype of UKIP nasty because he’s gay, according to David Torrance in this week’s twisted logic category, is now an outspoken and about-to-be frequent interviewee on behalf of Better Together. Johann Lamont is now holding hands with the Tories on one side and the UKIP on the other. How is this a win for No? Or is just the case that they are, as usual, utterly devoid of political instinct and manically self-congratulatory in their ignorance?

    The same media – hello BBC – which projected UKIP as the election story and helped get them elected will now regularly seek out a willing Mr Coburn for his delicious capacity to produce droplets of Unionist balm which turn into suicide pills.)

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  258. Bob Sinclair says:

    Kilt out of hibernation & Looking forward to tonight’s Glasgow South Adoption event for Stewart McDonald our SNP candidate who is going to hand Tom Harris his P45.
    Say hi if you’re there.

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  259. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Hi Bob.

    Good to see Quarantine is still attracting posts…

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  260. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    I wish I was a spaceman, the fastest guy alive.
    I’d fly you round the Universe, in Fireball XL5.
    Way out in space together, conquerors of the skies,
    My heart would be a fireball, a fireball,
    Every time I gaze into your starry eyes..

    link to youtube.com

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  261. Cactus says:

    I remember here bdtt, quite different from the off topic room.. now I know how E.T. felt!

    Wanna go article hopping.. name your horse?

    🙂

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  262. Gillian_Ruglonian says:

    So what’s through this door?

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  263. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    This is Paula Rose’s forgotten extension, Gillian.

    A wee garden of peace for reflections on 42.
    _____________________________________________________

    Hi Cactus.

    link to youtube.com

    8=)

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  264. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    And keeping to the clichéd cowboy theme,

    link to youtube.com

    Or, you could have this…

    link to youtube.com

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  265. Paula Rose says:

    Sorry darlings is it getting too dusty for you in the lounge? Be finished with the building work soon, there’s only room for a handful of you in here, even less if you will insist on wearing those cowboy hats…

    link to youtube.com

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  266. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Hi Paula Rose.

    Didn’t Barry McGuire have a wonderfully evocative vocal style?

    I played this track on Friday night, 3rd August 1990, in Jaspers Night Club. The bombing of Iraq had started on the previous night.

    link to youtube.com

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  267. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Oh – and typing of cowboy hats, as you were.

    Those featured above were only aspirational attempts. This is a cowboy hat…

    link to i.ytimg.com

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  268. Tackety Beets says:

    Brian , Thanks for BM Video ,a fav o mine.I used to play that one @ gigs many moons ago.

    Memories indeed , some pics we would rather forget , man has been so cruel.

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  269. Betty Boop says:

    Brian

    I wish I was a spaceman the fastest man alive…

    Jings, that brought back memories. Those supermarionated puppets could have taken off themselves if the wind had caught their eyebrows!

    So, how come we have repaired to the snug? Getting too noisy in O/T?

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  270. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Hi Betty Boop.

    It’s a bit like a Wings get-together. You have a table with, perchance 6-10 peeps there, actively discussing something of real importance. That’s the current main page.

    Then you have the table in the corner, with maybe 4-5 Wingers, discussing quantum physics or the Scottish punk scene in the 70s. That’s the ‘off-topic’ table.

    Lastly, you have those who have wandered outside for a vape or a smoke of whatever, and to sample the ambience and the totally off the wall conversation taking place, probably thanks to ‘whatever’. That’s Quarantine.

    Alles klar, mein Kommissar?

    link to youtube.com

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  271. Betty Boop says:

    Brian, I don’t smoke, so is it okay if I just sook wine gums?

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  272. Paula Rose says:

    And then you have a vision of gorgeousness poised on 1 bar stool and c’est moi!

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  273. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Hi Betty Boop.

    As long as you have a big enough bag for sharing!

    And, you’ll have noticed, Paula Rose even takes her bar stool out with her, lest it is occupied by a strange bum…

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  274. Betty Boop says:

    Thank you, Brian, plenty for everyone!

    Paula, you grace anywhere you choose to place your derriere!

    x

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  275. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Two hot summer nights and Quarantine has been bereft of Wingers. Even the ‘off-topic’ table is scantily Winger-clad. Everyone seems to be mobbing the main tables…

    On a hot summer night, would you offer your throat to the wolf with the red (Paula) rose?

    link to youtube.com

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  276. Paula Rose says:

    Sitting here with a glass of wine….

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  277. Tackety Beets says:

    Hi Paula , Take a few sips and enjoy.

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  278. Paula Rose says:

    No Rock think I’ll let him make an idiot of himself – sips wine, checks other thread, bit of a prat – never mind, sorry folks.

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  279. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    I’m sitting in the corner, going, “hee, hee, hee…”

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  280. Ian Brotherhood says:

    Okay, so here’s a totally bonkers idea, right?

    Who’s up for a proper ‘conference’?

    Same idea as the WOS gatherings, but not quite so frantic.

    Yeah, it’s nice, meeting-up, but it’s always finished before it’s even started, and we never get the time or space to have proper discussions.

    If we knew for sure that a minimum number of us were committed, we could book a hotel somewhere, preferably off-season, for a week-end. Say, for argument’s sake, the Friday evening, check-out Sunday. Early Spring 2016, well before the Holyrood campaign proper kicks off.

    We organise workshops/seminars. We invite speakers and entertainment. We crowdfund it in advance so that the professional participants can be paid their going rate. We publicise it well in advance and make sure the MSM are invited, most cordially.

    (I have specific place in mind. I can ‘see’ it happening in my heid, and I’d be happy to sound the place out re prices and likely availability. The place happens to be on an island, but it’s not that dear to get to.)

    Anyway, I’m just throwing this out as an idea, and would be grateful for any response.

    Hoots all 😉

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  281. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Hi Ian.

    Doesn’t sound so bonkers. A ‘Wings Over Scotland’ conference in the spring of 2016 could be a goer.

    If Rev Stu supported the idea, it could be a media biggie, specially if he gets the kwisling Daisley on board.

    Could the MSM ignore it? Social media and pro-indy web sites would certainly publicise and promote it.

    Yeah, I would say, work on it. I’m guessing your venue will be somewhere central, like the Invergowrie Inn?

    8=)

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  282. Ian Brotherhood says:

    @BDTT –

    Cheers for response.

    It’s worth thinking about, eh?

    Could be a good one.

    Let’s wait and see what others say to it…

    Hoots the noo! 🙂

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  283. Tackety Beets says:

    Ian & BDTT ,

    My work has always clashed with WOS doos, so far I have always missed oot , maybe others do too .

    IMO , A weekend “jolly” would appeal to me and could be justified travel& cost wise as a wee break from the grind of life.

    I feel often as Lumilumi etc express , Wings is great crack and has great strength as we are all pretty much like minded . At times I feel I know some Wingers better than some family members.

    In my day job I have met a few Wings badge wearers , what a lift it gives me .

    You may be surprised some speakers may feel honoured / delighted to attend for costs . Ie Non of our new MPs are in it for money .

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  284. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Hi TB.

    Discussion on this seems to have moved to ‘off-topic’.

    link to wingsoverscotland.com

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  285. Ian Brotherhood says:

    @TB & BDTT –

    Sorry for lack of responsiveness on my part.

    But this line of communication remains open, and is valuable. Let’s keep it at a peep, at least.

    Hoots a’body, as ever.

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  286. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Just marking time…

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  287. Thepnr says:

    @Brian Doonthetoon

    If you still have my phone number can you give me a bell? My old phone with your number stored gave up the ghost.

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  288. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Sent you a text Alex.

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  289. Thepnr says:

    Got it Brian, will phone you tomorrow.

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  290. crazycat says:

    @ Brian Doonthetoon (from Off-topic, directed here)

    I’d like a Helensburgh badge, please. Might be bringing at least one other person; will let you know if she’d like one too, if that’s ok.

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  291. crazycat says:

    @ Brian :

    Forgot to say – thanks for the hints about Firefox and The Herald the other day; I’m not using it yet but will bear it in mind.

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  292. Gillian says:

    Hiya Brian, can I have a badge with Gillian on it for Helensburgh, thanks 🙂

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  293. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Here’s the list for Helensburgh badges so far.

    Pete The Camera
    Brian Doonthetoon
    Crazycat
    Gillian

    Do a post here if you want a personalised badge.

    Crazycat – that add-on works well on The National as well.

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  294. Betty Boop says:

    @Bdtt

    Hi Brian,

    Re Helensburgh, can we have our usual please, one each for:

    Betty Boop

    Jim Thomson

    Looking forward to seeing y’all on 25th 🙂

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  295. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Added…

    Helensburgh badges

    Pete The Camera
    Brian Doonthetoon
    Crazycat
    Gillian
    Betty Boop
    Jim Thomson

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  296. Betty Boop says:

    @ Bdtt

    Hey, Brian, I reckon Ian Brotherhood might like a badge that says 440,000th! He doesn’t seem to have calmed down yet. 🙂

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  297. Paula Rose says:

    Badgees for me and thepnr please Beedeeteetee – see you all in Helen’s burrow.

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  298. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    BTW: as suggested a few weeks ago, people may not want personalised badges – something to do with frightening ‘the lurkers’.

    So, although I could be 100% sure that a particular Winger is gonna be at Helensburgh, there will be no badge, unless they ask for it.

    Capiche, mon ami?

    8=)

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  299. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Added, Paula Rose.

    Helensburgh badges

    Pete The Camera
    Brian Doonthetoon
    Crazycat
    Gillian
    Betty Boop
    Jim Thomson
    Paula Rose
    Thepnr

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  300. Cactus says:

    Hi quarantiners.

    Would you kindly add Dixie and I, for the Helensburgh badge.

    Finding the bar is easy.. X marks the spot.

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  301. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Hi Cactus.

    Added.

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  302. David says:

    Brian Doonthetoon, you could make a few badges with “Lurker” or “Longtime Lurker” on them for the publicity-shunning cybernats… 🙂

    Or something like sports teams do nowadays to get their fans more involved. Football, teams call their supporters the 12th man (or woman), in rugby it’s the 16th, or 23rd (yes, a bit confusing).

    So for Wings events, perhaps something to do with the 45%, or 51% cos that’s the majority we need. Or 56, as in the number of MPs. Or ‘Mhairi Black’s Barmy Army’.

    Or ‘the Wind beneath the Wings’ 🙂

    I won’t be there, except in spirit. The spirit is willing, but the bank balance is weak.

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  303. Paula Rose says:

    David honey – where do you reside?

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  304. David says:

    Hi Paula, I’m not in Scotland, it would be a helluva diversion from Brechin. 🙂

    (I’ve heard rumours you also are a helluva diversion, but no pics, no proof…)

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  305. Paula Rose says:

    @ David – someone has to take the pics xx

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  306. Betty Boop says:

    @ David

    There isn’t a camera that could do Paula justice. Pics just aren’t the same as the real deal. Be great if you could make it to a wingding sometime.

    @ Paula

    Are you staying over in the burgh? I’d love to see some of your new nail polish colours. See y’all there xx

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  307. Paula Rose says:

    Betty Boop doll – nails ruined due to working all day in the community allotment – sob, but never mind the kiddies will be fed.

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  308. Paula Rose says:

    Must admit – this http://www.wngd.org was a bit of a giggle.

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  309. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Hi Paula Rose.

    Your last link…

    So, was that why you trimmed your Rose bush?

    8=)

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  310. Paula Rose says:

    It was so lovely introducing Thepnr to the joys of gardening – Quinie frae Angus gave him a helping hand and the lovely Natasha led the way.

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  311. Betty Boop says:

    Paula R,

    Re your gardening link, I fear for the extremities, especially with hypothermia being a danger in the wilds of Angus!

    Take care with those pruning shears. x

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  312. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Here’s the up to date List of names for Helensburgh badges…

    Pete The Camera
    Brian Doonthetoon
    Crazycat
    Gillian
    Betty Boop
    Jim Thomson
    Paula Rose
    Thepnr
    Cactus
    Dixie
    Ronnie Anderson
    Shed Princess
    Sand Holmes

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    • Paula Rose says:

      Oh my giddy aunt – so many heroines and heroes.

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  313. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Cut off point if you want a personalised badge is 5pm on Thursday, 23rd, to give us time to get the badges printed and made for Saturday.

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  314. Cactus says:

    So is this le nouveau connoisseurs lounge then.. what mischief can we get up to here?

    Ayyyyye like it.

    😡

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  315. Cactus says:

    That’s a new emoticon combo to me..

    I thought (: + x = ‘Kissy Face’)

    What’s the interpretation of the one I did above.. ‘Cross Face?’

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  316. Paula Rose says:

    Where’s the one that describes you, honey – sexy face?

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  317. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Hi Cactus.

    This may help you to suss things out…

    link to en.wikipedia.org

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  318. Cactus says:

    Cheers for the list Brian Doonthetoon, I’ll have to try out a few new ones..

    Turns out it was the ‘asterisk/star’ all along, I’ve used it before ah swell. I must’ve been in a Saltire state of mind thinking about ‘x’.

    In the nowtime, here’s something for you pretty Paula Rose :* :* :*

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  319. Cactus says:

    Ach well, it’s analogue kisses for you Miss Paula, no transformy 😉

    Reply
  320. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    So, I’ll stick this in here, to keep the vibrant atmosphere going.

    Who knows which single, by which band, featuring an ocarina solo, made #2 in the UK and #1 in the US, in 1966?

    AND NO GOOGLING!

    Reply
    • Paula Rose says:

      Not so much a solo as a riff – now in which top-selling film score of that year did said instrument appear?

      Reply
  321. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Aw c’mon, Paula rose!

    That was an ocarina SOLO – it was a middle 8 for god’s sake!

    8=)

    Reply
  322. David says:

    Err, was your ocarina song “Abstaining makes the world go round” by Kezia and the Red Morningsiders?

    Fuxake BDTT, give us a clue – was it an acoustic or electric ocarina…

    Reply
  323. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Acoustic, David; probably microphobically assisted…

    Reply
  324. Paula Rose says:

    This Ocarina thing is getting a bit out of hand.

    Reply
  325. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Here’s another clue for yooz…

    The song is in the key of A major, and is based around the chord progression (I – IV – V – IV), which is the basis for the main riff.

    Also the instrumental parts during the chorus are in key with the rest of the song. However, the guitars are not strictly tuned to middle C in the band’s version and the slightly sharp tuning causes the chords to actually be midway between A and Bb. This has mystified many guitar players trying to play along with the record. It has been suggested that the band did this as a joke.

    Reply
  326. Paula Rose says:

    I heard it was the steam from the new-fangled tea’s-made that played havoc with the tuning.

    Reply
  327. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Early night for me tonight, so I’ll put you out of les miserables…

    “As a side note, the middle eight was originally someone whistling, but in The Troggs’ version this was replaced by Colin Fretcher, musical director, playing an ocarina.”

    link to youtube.com

    And here’s probably the best version in the world… ever…

    link to youtube.com

    Reply
  328. Paula Rose says:

    OI! I was having fun, also you are not good, very bad but not ugly.

    Reply
  329. Cactus says:

    Calling all musical people.. singers, poets, guitarists, mandoliners, violinists, pipers, pianists, tambouriners, percussionists, bodhranists, foot-tappers, spooners etc.. drop a message here if you fancy doing a turn on Saturday night?

    You’re in for a treat, you don’t wanna miss this one!

    Reply
  330. crazycat says:

    @ Brian Doonthetoon

    I’m planning to bring Gwen and Gavin on Saturday (they were at the last Counting House gathering), so if it’s possible for them to have a badge each, that would be much appreciated.

    I’ve just looked up parking in Helensburgh, and there seems to be a new restriction to 1 hour in certain places – does anyone happen to know if that still applies at night? The searches I did were no help.

    Reply
    • Kendomacaroobar says:

      @Crazycat

      Traffic wardens are few and far between and almost always work during office hours. You should be okay parking outside the Clyde The main pier carpark is a few hundred metres away.

      Reply
  331. crazycat says:

    @ Ken

    Thanks – I’m looking forward to meeting you; you should be easily identifiable from your avatar 🙂

    Reply
    • kendomacaroobar says:

      @Crazycat

      Thank goodness the trades description act doesn’t apply to avatars 🙂

      Looking forward to seeing you too !

      Reply
  332. Paula Rose says:

    Guess what I’ll be coming as!

    Reply
  333. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Hi Paula Rose.

    A shoe?

    Hi Crazycat.

    Gwen and Gavin are now on the list.

    8=)

    Reply
  334. crazycat says:

    @ Brian

    Thanks! Look forward to seeing you all.

    Reply
  335. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Would things have been different if the answer had been “41”? Or “43”?

    Reply
  336. Paula Rose says:

    Do hope no-ones come here on the off chance, Rock never shows – kind of explains things.

    Reply
  337. Jim Thomson says:

    Brian – aye they would – they’re both primes.

    anyway, effing Windoze X. Three goes at trying to make it work on the “big” PC and it gets very, very close, but no cigar.

    Re-installed Win7 – clean – and forgot to add “backup address books & contacts & calendar” to the to-do list … Fucking imbecile!

    Can recover most of the data from some two year old backups and sucking the guts out of the phone but not complete – what an utter arsehole of a job!

    Reply
  338. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Hi Jim.

    Have you ever considered migrating to Mac?

    I started off, after my Commodore 64, with a Motorola Mac clone in 1997; 200MHz processor. From there, I graduated to a second-hand G3 300MHZ around 2001. After that, I was rescuing Macs from work (medical school) that were destined for death so I was acquiring machines that were around 5+ years old.

    I then migrated to MacOSX 10 with my first bubble iMac, 350MHz. Since then, between ‘acquired’ machines, and a couple bought via eBay, I have reached my current beastie, a dual 4-core 3GHz Xeon, with 32G memory, dating from around 2008.

    The only problem I had was converting my emails from MacOS9 to MacOSX, which involved 2 conversions but I still have all my emails, in and out, from the 90’s, on my current machine.

    When Mac users update the system, we don’t have to worry about continuity – it just happens.

    And changing from old machine to a new machine is simply the tiresome job of taking a hard drive out of one machine and slotting it into the new machine.

    If Carlsberg did computers, they still couldn’t come close to Apple for user ease of use.

    Reply
  339. David says:

    Hello Paula Rose,
    you asked where I am living, and although a bit shy about revealing too many details, well I suppose GCHQ, MI5, Google and NSA know already, so it’s no use in trying to hide. 🙂

    But let’s make it interesting! I’m not just going to tell you, you have to guess where this Wally is. Don’t worry, I’ll feed you some clues, one clue = one guess. Deal?

    To start you off, I’m not in Scotland, but I am in a country/nation/whatever that was colonised by Europeans…

    Okay, that doesn’t narrow it down much, so where I am has a worse Gini Coefficient than the UK, i.e. income inequality is even greater here than in the UK. Yup, sad but true.

    Reply
  340. Jim Thomson says:

    Brian,

    I think the beast is tamed!

    You can probably hear the creaks and groans as I cross all fingers and toes …

    Turns out StupidBoy(tm) here forgot to update all the MoBo drivers. That meant that the new OS didn’t know how to speak to the power management on the MoBo and refused to let it shut down claiming there was a “problem”. Hey, simple enough mistake (my excuse and I’m sticking to it).

    When you build and configure your own systems, there are far too many variables to keep in the heid (especially one that’s a bit like Swiss Cheese at the best of times). I really must try to remember and write down all this week’s lessons 😛

    It’s (currently) ticking along nicely. I just need to resurrect a couple of payroll programs from a year or so back, for which I have a couple of back-up files, and cull all the relevant codes and incantations embedded in them, to stuff into the current version of the program. Turns out those nice people at Sage make all their programs backwards incompatible with previous years’ file formats.

    Then there’s a wee reconfiguration of the audio side (I need – and use – the MoBo audio as well as a separate sound card for some comms s/w the drives the multiband Tx/Rx).

    Ho-hum.

    Anyways, at least it’s no rainin’ here the noo.

    🙂

    Reply
  341. Jim Thomson says:

    Jings … that went straight in and appeared, as if by magic, right on the screen in front of me. Bet this one doesn’t 😛

    Reply
  342. Jim Thomson says:

    ah wiz richt.

    Reply
  343. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Hi Jim.

    The “MOBO” is an alien concept to me. Never mind actually making it canter – I wouldn’t know whether to mount it from the left or the right. Do you squeeze its sides, while muttering “Giddup”, to make it change gear?

    Reply
  344. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    BTW Jim:

    That last post appeared within second of me clicking on ‘Submit Comment’.

    At work, the post I did in answer to ‘ali’ at just after 4pm in the front page, took until 4.25pm to appear, along with a handful of other posts that had been posted after it.

    We’ll see if this is posted immediately…

    Reply
  345. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Yeah, it was.

    Reply
  346. Paula Rose says:

    I find that if I’m wearing a certain pair of heels I get an instant comment appearance – btw David commiserations xx

    Reply
  347. Paula Rose says:

    Voila!!!

    Reply
  348. Jim Thomson says:

    Brian, I’ve played with many MoBos in my time. I’m reliably informed that it also refers to “Music of Black Origin”. Hey ho.

    And just so I don’t get in trouble with PR … a new post for that response ..

    Reply
  349. Jim Thomson says:

    Paula, I need advice about heels. I keep wearing a hole in one sock at the heel, is there anything I can do to make them both wear out at the same time?

    I now have a drawer-full of orphan socks. Most distressing.

    Reply
  350. David says:

    MOBO
    Music Of Black Origin, or computer Motherboard (aka mainboard). The big board all the smaller stuff, eg graphics card & memory cards, plug into.

    That’s courtesy of past working (minimum wage) at HP Erskine. 🙂

    Reply
  351. Paula Rose says:

    Jim Thomson honey – chuck them all in the compost and suspend with stockings, sorted.

    Reply
  352. Jim Thomson says:

    Paula,

    Followed your advice m’dear, and I now have a compost container steaming in the sunlight. I’m assuming that’s a good thing.

    I now also assume that I have to be steaming before I use the stockings and suspenders.

    Your’s, curiously

    Jim T

    Reply
  353. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Hi Jim.

    If Wings Over Invergowrie 3 takes place on Halloween, we could make it a fancy dress party, just for you!

    Then you could wear your sussies and stockings with gay abandon! I could even play this for you:-

    link to youtube.com

    Reply
  354. Paula Rose says:

    Stop this hilarity at once – this is a serious site dedicated to ongoing analysis of the democratic deficit within the UK.

    The idea that any Wings gathering would be other than a discussion of on-going political dilemna is quite honestly anathema.

    (sniggle)

    Reply
  355. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Hi Paula Rose.

    link to wingsoverscotland.com

    8=)

    Reply
  356. Betty Boop says:

    @ Bdtt

    Brian, apropos all the techy stuff conversations above, I can report that I am studiously avoiding Windows 10, no matter what my technical adviser says.

    If he installs it on my poor wee lappie, I may have to impose sanctions of some description, like, nae tattie scones or summat!

    Reply
  357. Jim Thomson says:

    Nae tablet fur you then, Betty. An’ ah dinnae mean wan o’ they computery wans either.

    Reply
  358. Michael McCabe says:

    @ Brian Doonthetoon I will be going to the Edinburgh night out. the one at Invergowrie I will let you know nearer the time.

    Reply
  359. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Cheers Michael! You’re on the list.

    Reply
  360. Betty Boop says:

    @ Bdtt

    Brian, after Michael, mind and put moi and Jim T on the list for Embra (penthouse booked, so don’t change the date!) and Invergowrie on 24th Oct.

    Ta so much.

    Reply
    • Paula Rose says:

      Polishes nails, hoovers fan, feeds snake, waxes legs, checks screen – OMG Wings Wotsit in Edinburgh!!! On line quick to find chauffeur and a sofa for him and a luxury bed for me – offers?

      Reply
  361. Ian Brotherhood says:

    @Paula Rose (10.56) –

    ‘Hoovers fan’?????

    What fresh hell is this?

    Reply
  362. Betty Boop says:

    @ Ian Brotherhood

    @Paula Rose (10.56) –

    ‘Hoovers fan’?????

    What fresh hell is this?

    That’s be the pink fan; a wee bit dusty after the centrefold shoot perhaps…

    Reply
  363. Paula Rose says:

    Um Ian Brotherhood sweetie – there is a pic on off-topic, hold on a sec…

    Fortunately we’re amongst friends…

    link to twitter.com

    (pic courtesy of iscot mag – their new centrefold if the funding happens)

    Reply
  364. CameronB Brodie says:

    Brian Doonthetoon
    I plan on coming. Don’t go making a badge though, as I might not make it. Hope to see youz all there.

    Reply
  365. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Sorry CameronB Brodie.

    You have pit yir puhss over the parapet and must face the consequences.

    Your name is on the list for ‘Wings Over Embra’ so a badge will be conceived and delivered.

    It is incumbent upon you to be there to pin it on your person, or you will be killed WITH HAMMERS.

    The list for Embra looks like this so far…
    Ronnie Anderson
    Jock Scot
    Pete The Camera
    Brian Doonthetoon
    Michael McCabe
    Betty Boop
    Jim Thomson
    CameronB Brodie
    (Only two living in the Embra area?)

    But, the big question is…

    Should the badges say “Wings Over Embra”, or “Wings Over Edinburgh”?

    Your input, please.

    ————————————————-

    The list for Wings Over Invergowrie 3′ on 24th October, is looking like this…

    Brian Doonthetoon
    Pete The Camera
    Hanii Puppy
    Ronnie Anderson
    Betty Boop
    Jim Thomson

    Reply
  366. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Test

    Reply
  367. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    OK, one of my posts, that I did before “Test” and contained no links, has been refused.

    What does one do?

    I despair.

    Reply
  368. Paula Rose says:

    Beedeeteetee fret you not – neither should you despair, special strokes will be available soon – meantime…

    link to youtube.com

    Did I mention the price of oil?

    Reply
  369. Ian Brotherhood says:

    @Paula Rose –

    Sorry not to get back to you before now about that picture of yourself, but I came as soon as I heard it was being shown.

    I’m a bit miffed you didn’t give me any name-check as the photographer, but no matter – it’s the result that counts, and I’m delighted how it turned out. You’ll also be pleased to know that the B&B in Kilwinning where we did the shoot has sent me a 15% discount voucher for our next visit, and promised that, aye, they’ll make sure the barman knows how to make Pink Gins.

    Sorted! 😉

    Reply
    • Paula Rose says:

      Please dear sotto voce this is just between you and me – oops that was a bit hard.

      Reply
  370. Flower of Scotland says:

    Hi folks,

    I and another Lady Winger are planning on coming to the night out at the Alexander Graham Bell.

    About what time?

    Reply
  371. ronnie anderson says:

    @ Flower of Scotland no set time but about 7/7.30pm,Im adding another event Ghost Tours, whit time diz Grayfriers shut the gates BOO.

    Reply
  372. ronnie anderson says:

    @ BrianDTT Wings over Edinburgh please Respect to Edinburgh.

    @ Flower of Scotland let BrianDtt know the names you,s want on the Badges Thanks.

    Reply
  373. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Hi Ronnie.

    “Wings Over Edinburgh” – noted.
    .

    Hi Flower of Scotland.

    It’s a Wetherspoon’s pub so decent grub will be available. Might be an idea to get in around 6 and have nosebags before the fun begins at sevenish.

    As Ronnie has mentioned, let me know what names you want on your souvenir badges.

    Reply
  374. Flower of Scotland says:

    Hi BTT.

    Yes I’ve been to that pub and it’s busy on a Saturday.

    Not sure about names for badges. My Winger friend is on holiday and out of reach of the Internet, so my Flower name is fine for me but I’ll leave the other one up to you. She,s a long time Winger but doesn’t comment.

    Look forward to seeing you all!

    Reply
  375. Paula Rose says:

    Loads of ladies with heels – watch out boys xx

    Reply
  376. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Och Flower of Scotland,

    You probably have until Wednesday 23rd September to let me know the names, so dinnae fash yirsels.
    Tell hur no’ to be si backward in comin’ forward, an’ thah.

    Reply
  377. Flower of Scotland says:

    Hi BTT,
    Will have a wee confab when she gets back from her hols and then get back to you.

    Thanks ????

    and for Paula…????????!

    Reply
  378. Flower of Scotland says:

    My emoticons didn’t work! It was a smiley face and red high heels for Paula!

    Reply
  379. Paula Rose says:

    Flower of Scotland honey darling we will whip the boys into shape xx

    Reply
  380. crazycat says:

    @ Brian Doonthetoon

    I’m intending to be in Edinburgh on the 26th – I might try to bring whomever I end up staying with, but I won’t risk asking for badges for them after Helensburgh.

    Reply
  381. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Hi Crazycat.

    I’ll add you to the list when I get home. What doesafter Helensburgh refer to?

    Reply
  382. dramfineday says:

    Hi Ronnie

    Put me down for the Edinburgh event please. Mrs Dram might come along as well.

    Kind regards

    Dram

    Reply
  383. crazycat says:

    @ Brian

    I thought I was bringing two people to Helensburgh, so asked you for badges for them. I did bring two people, but one of them was not the expected one; it wasn’t a problem and the badge was worn, but I don’t want risk that happening again.

    Reply
  384. Tam Jardine says:

    Brian Doonthetoon

    Hi Brian

    You rubbed me up the wrong way yesterday – I’m not ignoring the Edinburgh night out. I wish I’d been more pro-active. I’m just dragged in all directions at the moment and I’m trying to be a guid father and a guid husband and guid at my job and trying to free my country and I’m not doing any of those things very well.

    Put me on the list – will see you there

    Reply
  385. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Hi Tam.

    No worries. You couldn’t see me smiling as I typed the other night!

    Below is the updated badge list for Wings Over Edinburgh. You have until 23rd September to add your name for a badge on the night.

    Ronnie Anderson
    Jock Scot
    Pete The Camera
    Brian Doonthetoon
    Michael McCabe
    Betty Boop
    Jim Thomson
    CameronB Brodie
    Flower of Scotland
    + 1
    Crazycat
    ?
    Dramfineday
    Mrs Dramfineday
    Tam Jardine

    Reply
  386. Michael McCabe says:

    Hi Brian Doonthetoon I will be bringing a friend along. Could you add Lynn MCcarthy to the list and for a badge. Cheers.

    Reply
  387. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Hi Michael.

    Is that ‘Lynn McCarthy’?

    Reply
  388. Michael McCabe says:

    Yes Brian and you have Spelt her name Correctly. Cheers.

    Reply
  389. Betty Boop says:

    @ Bdtt

    The list for Edinburgh is filling up nicely. Be good to see a few new faces 🙂 Had to do a double take further up the page – thought you’d “rubbed out” Tam Jardine!

    @ Paula Rose

    Paula, dear, we may need a few soothing strokes for anyone suffering heel envy in Edinburgh. So, be prepared and I know you will be gentle. Mwah!

    @ Ronnie

    Mind an’ pit the curl in thon hairy string. Micht be a wheen o’ investitures!

    Reply
  390. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Hi peeps.

    Here is the up to date list of those who have requested a badge for Wings Over Edinburgh – 26th September.

    Ronnie Anderson
    Jock Scot
    Pete The Camera
    Brian Doonthetoon
    Michael McCabe
    Lynn McCarthy
    Betty Boop
    Jim Thomson
    CameronB Brodie
    Flower of Scotland
    +1
    Crazycat
    +1?
    +1?
    Dramfineday
    Mrs Dramfineday
    Tam Jardine

    If you’re intending going to the get-together and want a badge with your name on it, do a post here, stating what name you want on the badge.

    Reply
  391. Paula Rose says:

    Paula Rose – Queen of Scots

    Reply
  392. crazycat says:

    @ Brian

    Although I might bring some people along, I don’t yet know who they’ll be (if any), so safer not to make any badges (except for me, please) – thanks :).

    Reply
  393. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Hi Crazycat.

    You have until 11.59pm on Wednesday, 23rd September, to order your badges for compadres. The more the merrier!

    I wonder if Natasha will turn up? After all, It’s just up the road from Jedburgh and it wizznae us she fell oot wi’, an eh doot if Rev Stu wull be there…

    Reply
  394. ronnie anderson says:

    BrianDTT & PeteTC normaly have spare blank named badges & a sparkly pen to hand,so more the merrier as BDTT says.

    Reply
  395. JLT says:

    Hi Brian,

    Pop my name down for a badge! ‘JLT’ will do!

    Will try to boost us East Coasters at the event. Will pop thru from Livi.

    Cheers again!

    Reply
  396. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Hi JLT.

    You’re now on the list.

    Reply
  397. JLT says:

    Cheers Brian.

    Right …back to the books …and now and again …a wee peek at todays WoS forums.

    Enjoy mate!

    Reply
  398. Alistair Grapevine says:

    Hi Brian
    Put me down for a badge, ( Alistair Grapevine ), looking forward to the night.

    Reply
  399. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    You’re on the list, Alistair.

    Reply
  400. Flower of Scotland says:

    Hi Brian Doonthetoon,

    You are making me a Flower of Scotland badge. Could you make my friend a badge too with :-

    “Carol Still Yes” on her badge.

    Thank you very much Brian. Looking forward to seeing everyone!

    Reply
  401. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Hi FoS.

    “Carol Still Yes” is added to the list.

    Reply
  402. Paula Rose says:

    Oi you lot stop leaving your names scattered all over the floor put them on the sideboard over here.

    Reply
  403. hevvabeccywoss says:

    Can I have a badge for Saturday please? Looking forward to it x

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  404. X_Sticks says:

    Can I be on the list please Brian?

    Look forward to seeing you all on Saturday.

    Looking like it will be quite a gathering 😀

    Reply
  405. Gillian_Ruglonian says:

    So, Saturday seems to be shaping up nicely, can I have a badge please Brian (before Pete runs out of components!)

    Reply
  406. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Right…

    Here’s the up to date list for name badges for Saturday.

    Ronnie Anderson
    Jock Scot
    Pete The Camera
    Brian Doonthetoon
    Michael McCabe
    Lynn McCarthy
    Betty Boop
    Jim Thomson
    CameronB Brodie
    Flower of Scotland
    Crazycat
    +1?
    +1?
    Dramfineday
    Mrs Dramfineday
    Tam Jardine
    JLT
    Alistair Grapevine
    Carol Still Yes
    Bob Sinclair
    Hevvabeccywoss
    X_Sticks
    Gillian_Ruglonian

    Remember, you must claim your name badge here by 11.59pm tomorrow (Wednesday) night.

    Reply
  407. Flower of Scotland says:

    Thanks BDTT!

    See you all Saturday. Looking forward to it.

    Reply
  408. Cactus says:

    Hey Brian, could I book a badge for Saturday night, thank you please 🙂

    Reply
  409. call me dave says:

    Include my name please for a badge on Saturday.
    Time I met a few more wingers and matched a face or two to the names.

    Just back from a miserable 4 days in Oban so it’ll be a tonic (and a gin).

    Kind regards. 🙂

    Reply
  410. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Hi call me dave.

    Do you want “Call Me Dave” on your badge, or all lower case?

    .

    Hi Cactus.
    I was going to email you tonight as I noticed, last night, that you didn’t appear on the list.

    You’re now on the list.

    .

    Crazycat – have you got names for your +2 yet?

    Reply
  411. call me dave says:

    Oh!… I’ll have the capitals please as I’m in Edinburgh!

    Reply
  412. ronnie anderson says:

    @ BrianDTT John & Irene King.

    Reply
  413. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Hi call me dave.

    Done.

    .

    Hi Ronnie.
    I added them to the list a wee while ago. Funny – Paula Rose is being unusually quiet about her attendance, or otherwise, on Saturday.

    Reply
  414. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    And no word from TJenny… or Quinie…

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  415. handclapping says:

    Hi Brian
    Would you add me to your list, please.
    Cheers Graeme

    PS thats bound to get Paula to come

    Reply
  416. Ghillie says:

    Hi Brian Doonthetoon,

    Please may we have badges for Saturday’s gathering too!

    Callan Mackay
    Kyle Mackay
    Ghillie Mackay

    Thankyou for organising this! Really looking forward to meeting everyone = )

    Reply
  417. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    handclapping, Callan Mackay, Kyle Mackay, Ghillie Mackay – you’re on the list.

    So are you Conan – good job I read ‘off-topic’ as well. You must have speed-read past 10th September, where it says,

    “Re the Edinburgh get-together on 26th September.

    If you’re intending going to the get-together and want a badge with your name on it, do a post in Quarantine (link at bottom left of this page), stating what name you want on the badge.

    “Re the Edinburgh get-together on 26th September.

    If you’re intending going to the get-together and want a badge with your name on it, do a post in Quarantine (link at bottom left of this page), stating what name you want on the badge.”

    8=)

    Reply
  418. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Sorry – the second paragraph of the bold stuff should have read:-

    You have until 11.59pm on Wednesday, 23rd September, to order your badge.

    Reply
  419. Conan the Librarian™ says:

    @ BDTT Been having problems posting…

    One for me ta. Have you tried the ‘Bengali Tiger’?

    Reply
  420. Quinie frae Angus says:

    I never come on to Quarantine! Only ever Off-topic.

    I am not sure yet whether I can come to the gathering in Edinburgh so it does feel a bit of a cheek to be putting my name in for a badge!

    Reply
  421. Thepnr says:

    BDTT Thepnr will be there, cheers.

    Reply
  422. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Hi Quinie frae Angus.

    You’ve done it now! By raising your head over the parapets, you have ensured that a badge will be at the Arthur – sorry, Alexander – Graham Bell, waiting for you to wear it.

    .

    Hi Conan.

    I’ve avoided the Tiger and that other Indian beer since I found out they were ‘brewed under licence’ in the UK.
    Tsing Tao is still imported, in the bottles, from China.
    Long may it last!

    Reply
  423. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Hi Alex Thepnr.

    Paula has already ordered your badges via email. Aren’t you the lucky cove, escorting Paula (and her heels) from Angus to Embra!

    Tartan Tory (and others) will be SO put out!

    8=)

    Reply
  424. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Right, that’s the line drawn.

    If you haven’t already requested a badge, you’ll have to write your name on a blank on Saturday.

    That’s all folks!

    Reply
  425. Taranaich says:

    Guys, I’m an absolute idiot: it turns out I had a prior engagement. I won’t make it to Edinburgh 🙁

    NEXT TIME, DAMMIT.

    Reply
  426. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Hi Taranaich.

    I did a post for you on the

    link to wingsoverscotland.com

    page, a couple of minutes ago.

    Reply
  427. TJenny says:

    Hi all – as I suspected, it doesn’t look like I will make it to the gathering tomorrow night, so it’s just as well I didn’t put my name down for a badge.

    Hope you all have the usual fab time and maybe see you at the next one.

    As Ian Brotherhood would say – Hoots! 🙂

    Reply
  428. Paula Rose says:

    Stamps foot petulantly – no TJenny not fair.

    Reply
  429. dramfineday says:

    Sorry Brian missed your backstop date regarding notification of badge confirmation (beetroot chops for me) Mr & Mrs Dram will be attending – be there about 19.00.

    Many thanks

    Reply
  430. dramfineday says:

    For some peculiar reason, when I saw the picture of Katie Grant on the piano, in the rev’so recent article, I had this vision of our Paula lying across the top of it, languidly sipping champers while scribing arcs in the air with her sparkly high heels.

    It’s late, must get to bed……

    Reply
  431. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Names for badges for the Invergowrie get-together on 24th October…

    Brian Doonthetoon
    Pete The Camera
    Ronnie Anderson
    Sand Holmes

    Reply
  432. Jim Thomson says:

    @BDtt re Invergowrie

    please add Betty and me to the list.

    Do we need to book for food or, just roll up and ask for a menu?

    Reply
  433. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Hi Jim.

    It can get busy for meals Saturday teatime so I’d say ‘book seats’ – and mention that you’re going to the Wings Over Scotland get-together. You can book up to 7pm.

    Reply
  434. Jim Thomson says:

    Got that Brian. Ta much 🙂

    Reply
  435. Patrician says:

    coz I iz bored:

    😆

    😳

    😥

    👿

    😈

    🙄

    ❗

    ❓

    💡

    💡

    :mrgreen:

    Reply
  436. Patrician says:

    ans still bored:

    🙂

    😀

    🙁

    😮

    😯

    😕

    😎

    😡

    😛

    😐

    😉

    Reply
  437. Patrician says:

    ➡

    Reply
  438. Paula Rose says:

    Does it work

    😳

    Reply
  439. Paula Rose says:

    Gone funnily moist –

    💡

    Reply
  440. Patrician says:

    link to codex.wordpress.org

    Reply
  441. Patrician says:

    Please use sparingly, it will drive people mad 👿

    Reply
  442. Paula Rose says:

    *looks up from scribbling frantically*

    Reply
  443. Cactus says:

    Unable to be with youse at InverG3 this Saturday folks, have ye all a great time.

    😎
    😈

    Reply
  444. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Remember, if you want a personalised named badge for the Wings get-together at the Invergowrie Inn on Saturday stick a post here before 11.59pm tonight.

    Reply
  445. cearc says:

    Bdtt,

    I’ll be there.

    Reply
  446. Paula Rose says:

    BDTT honey – are you mentioning the shindig on the main threads – this is a rather elite place!

    Reply
  447. Thepnr says:

    Hello Brian

    Looks like I will make it along after all, another wee badge to add to my collection would be welcomed. Ta.

    Reply
  448. Paula Rose says:

    BDTT honey – your subtlety is rewarded – badge please.

    Reply
  449. Paula Rose says:

    Test

    Reply
  450. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Something to keep Quarantine ‘Alive & Kicking’…

    Think you are having a bad day ?

    Fire authorities in California found a corpse in a burned-out section of forest while assessing the damage done by a forest fire. The deceased male was dressed in a full wet suit, complete with scuba tanks on his back, flippers, and face mask.

    A post-mortem test revealed that the man died not from burns, but from massive internal injuries. Dental records provided a positive identification. Investigators then set about to determine how a fully clothed diver ended up in the middle of a forest fire.

    It was revealed that on the day of the fire, the man went diving off the coast, some 20 miles from the forest. The fire fighters, seeking to control the fire as quickly as possible, had called in a fleet of helicopters with very large dip buckets. Water was dipped from the ocean and emptied at the site of the forest fire.

    You guessed it. One minute our diver was making like Flipper in the Pacific, the next, he was doing the breast stroke in a fire dip bucket 300 feet in the air.

    Some days it just doesn’t pay to get out of bed. but keep reading….

    Still think you’re having a bad day ?

    A man was working on his motorcycle on the patio, his wife nearby in the kitchen. While racing the engine, the motorcycle accidentally slipped into gear. The man, still holding onto the handlebars, was dragged along as it burst through the glass patio doors.

    His wife, hearing the crash, ran in the room to find her husband cut and bleeding, the motorcycle, and the shattered patio door. She called for an ambulance and, because the house sat on a fairly large hill, went down the several flights of stairs to meet the paramedics and escort them to her husband.

    While the attendants were loading her husband, the wife managed to right the motorcycle and push it outside. She also quickly blotted up the spilled petrol with some paper towels and tossed them into the toilet.

    After being treated and released, the man returned home, looked at the shattered patio door and the damage done to his motorcycle. He went into the bathroom and consoled himself with a cigarette while attending to his business. About to stand, he flipped the butt between his legs.

    The wife, who was in the kitchen, heard a loud explosion and her husband screaming. Finding him lying on the bathroom floor with his trousers blown away and burns on his buttocks, legs and groin, she once again phoned for an ambulance. The same paramedic crew was dispatched.

    As the paramedics carried the man down the stairs to the ambulance they asked the wife how he had come to burn himself. She told them. They started laughing so hard, one slipped, the stretcher dumping the husband out. He fell down the remaining stairs, breaking his arm.

    Still having a bad day ?

    Just remember, it could be worse..

    The average cost of rehabilitating a seal after the Exxon Valdez oil spill in Alaska was $80,000. At a special ceremony, two of the most expensively saved animals were being released back into the wild amid cheers and applause from onlookers. A minute later, in full view, a killer whale ate them both.

    Still think you are having a bad day ?

    A woman came home to find her husband in the kitchen shaking frantically, almost in a dancing frenzy, with some kind of wire running from his waist towards the electric kettle. Intending to jolt him away from the deadly current, she whacked him with a handy plank of wood, breaking his arm in two places. Up to that moment, he had been happily listening to his Walkman.

    STILL think you’re having a bad day ?

    Two animal rights protesters were protesting at the cruelty of sending pigs to a slaughterhouse in Bonn, Germany. Suddenly, all two thousand pigs broke loose and escaped through a broken fence, stampeding madly. The two hapless protesters were trampled to death.

    There now, feeling better ?

    Reply
  451. Paula Rose says:

    Go away I’m still in a strop.

    Reply
  452. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Even after The Pork Dukes?

    Any ruth in the tumour that this song was about you, back in the day?

    link to youtube.com

    Reply
  453. Paula Rose says:

    No ruth at all but this was –
    (different version of a classic)

    link to youtube.com

    Reply
  454. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Hi Paula rose.

    You typed,
    “(different version of a classic)”

    OK, let’s turn that on its head and provide this offering from 1963…

    link to youtube.com

    Reply
  455. Paula Rose says:

    1963 Honey – that was then this came out (giggle)…

    link to youtube.com

    Reply
  456. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Hi Paula rose.

    SHE was a nice lookin’ wummin…

    Reply
  457. Paula Rose says:

    *quietly works away*

    Reply
  458. Paula Rose says:

    World

    Reply
  459. Paula Rose says:

    Domination

    Reply
  460. Paula Rose says:

    Strop nearly over…

    Reply
  461. Paula Rose says:

    Let the light flood in…

    link to youtube.com

    Reply
  462. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    If you’re almost out of your strop, you could be taken right out by something jolly?

    /www.youtube.com/watch?v=flMS2gHFOH0

    Reply
  463. Paula Rose says:

    Back in strop – Rev changing things without telling, not fair *smashes crockery*

    Reply
  464. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Just noticed I made an @r$€ of that last link.

    link to youtube.com

    Sorted.

    Reply
  465. Patrician says:

    While sorting through some old files on a hard disk, I came across a text file containing the following “jokes”. They are quite old and most people will have read most of these but they made me chuckle.

    “Apparently, after every flight, Qantas pilots fill out a form, called a ‘gripe sheet’, which tells mechanics about problems with the aircraft. The mechanics correct the problems; document their repairs on the form, and then pilots review the gripe sheets before the next flight.

    Never let it be said that ground crews lack a sense of humour. Here are some actual maintenance complaints submitted by Qantas’ Pilots and the solutions recorded by maintenance engineers.

    Pilots: Left inside main tire almost needs replacement.
    Engineers: Almost replaced left inside main tire.

    Pilots: Test flight OK, except auto-land very rough. Engineers: Auto-land not installed on this aircraft.

    Pilots: Something loose in cockpit. Qantas airline bug report
    Engineers: Something tightened in cockpit.

    Pilots: Dead bugs on windshield.
    Engineers: Live bugs on back-order.

    Pilots: Autopilot in altitude-hold mode produces a 200 feet per minute descent.
    Engineers: Cannot reproduce problem on ground.

    Pilots: Evidence of leak on right main landing gear.
    Engineers: Evidence removed.

    Pilots: Friction locks cause throttle levers to stick.
    Engineers: That’s what they’re for.

    Pilots: Suspected crack in windshield.
    Engineers: Suspect you’re right.
    »
    More Exchanges Between Qantas Pilots and Their Engineers

    Pilots: Number 3 engine missing.
    Engineers: Engine found on right wing after brief search.

    Pilots: Aircraft handles funny.
    Engineers: Aircraft warned to straighten up, fly right, and be serious.

    Pilots: Target radar hums
    Engineers: Reprogrammed target radar with lyrics.

    Pilots: Mouse in cockpit. Sounds like a midget pounding on something with a hammer.
    Engineers: Cat installed.

    Qantas Pilot: Noise coming from under instrument panel. Sounds like a midget pounding on something with a hammer.
    Engineers: Took hammer away from midget

    The following letter was written by a retired Qantas pilot to his former colleagues:

    Dear All,

    Please find enclosed a home study simulator course [HSSC] for those of you who still hunger for the romance and adventure of airline travel.

    If you follow all the steps in this HSSC you will experience that ‘Romance and Adventure.’

    1] Do not go to bed

    2] Sit in your most uncomfortable chair, preferably in a cupboard, for 9 or 10 hours facing a 4 foot wide panoramic photo of a flight deck

    3] Have two or three noisy vacuum cleaners on high, out of sight but within hearing distance and operating throughout the night. If a vacuum cleaner fails, do the appropriate restart checklist

    4] Halfway through your nocturnal simulator course, arrange for a bright spotlight to shine directly into your face for two or three hours, simulating flying eastbound into the sunrise

    5] Have bland overcooked food served on a tray halfway through the night

    6] Have cold cups of coffee delivered from time to time, and ask your spouse to slam the door frequently

    7] At the time when you must heed nature’s call, force yourself to stand outside the bathroom door for at least ten minutes, transferring your weight from leg to leg, teasing the discomfort. Don’t forget to wear your hat.

    8] Leave the cupboard after the prescribed nine or ten hours and turn on your sprinklers in the garden and stand out in the cold and “rain”, for twenty minutes, simulating the wait for the crew car

    9] Head for your bedroom, wet through and with your suitcase and flight bag. Stand outside the door till your wife gets up and leaves, simulating the wait while the maid makes up the hotel room

    10] When your spouse inquires, ‘Just what in the hell have you been doing?’ just say, ‘Recalling the allure of all night flying to romantic places.’ as you collapse into bed

    11] If you are a purist, make this a two-day trip instead of a turn-around, so do this two nights in a row. Above all ‘Enjoy Yourselves.’

    Regards…………………..Jim Retired.”

    Reply
  466. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Hi Patrician.

    Typing about things one has saved on one’s hard drive…

    Think you are having a bad day ?

    Fire authorities in California found a corpse in a burned-out section of forest while assessing the damage done by a forest fire. The deceased male was dressed in a full wet suit, complete with scuba tanks on his back, flippers, and face mask.

    A post-mortem test revealed that the man died not from burns, but from massive internal injuries. Dental records provided a positive identification. Investigators then set about to determine how a fully clothed diver ended up in the middle of a forest fire.

    It was revealed that on the day of the fire, the man went diving off the coast, some 20 miles from the forest. The fire fighters, seeking to control the fire as quickly as possible, had called in a fleet of helicopters with very large dip buckets. Water was dipped from the ocean and emptied at the site of the forest fire.

    You guessed it. One minute our diver was making like Flipper in the Pacific, the next, he was doing the breast stroke in a fire dip bucket 300 feet in the air.

    Some days it just doesn’t pay to get out of bed. but keep reading….

    Still think you’re having a bad day ?

    A man was working on his motorcycle on the patio, his wife nearby in the kitchen. While racing the engine, the motorcycle accidentally slipped into gear. The man, still holding onto the handlebars, was dragged along as it burst through the glass patio doors.

    His wife, hearing the crash, ran in the room to find her husband cut and bleeding, the motorcycle, and the shattered patio door. She called for an ambulance and, because the house sat on a fairly large hill, went down the several flights of stairs to meet the paramedics and escort them to her husband.

    While the attendants were loading her husband, the wife managed to right the motorcycle and push it outside. She also quickly blotted up the spilled petrol with some paper towels and tossed them into the toilet.

    After being treated and released, the man returned home, looked at the shattered patio door and the damage done to his motorcycle. He went into the bathroom and consoled himself with a cigarette while attending to his business. About to stand, he flipped the butt between his legs.

    The wife, who was in the kitchen, heard a loud explosion and her husband screaming. Finding him lying on the bathroom floor with his trousers blown away and burns on his buttocks, legs and groin, she once again phoned for an ambulance. The same paramedic crew was dispatched.

    As the paramedics carried the man down the stairs to the ambulance they asked the wife how he had come to burn himself. She told them. They started laughing so hard, one slipped, the stretcher dumping the husband out. He fell down the remaining stairs, breaking his arm.

    Still having a bad day ?

    Just remember, it could be worse..

    The average cost of rehabilitating a seal after the Exxon Valdez oil spill in Alaska was $80,000. At a special ceremony, two of the most expensively saved animals were being released back into the wild amid cheers and applause from onlookers. A minute later, in full view, a killer whale ate them both.

    Still think you are having a bad day ?

    A woman came home to find her husband in the kitchen shaking frantically, almost in a dancing frenzy, with some kind of wire running from his waist towards the electric kettle. Intending to jolt him away from the deadly current, she whacked him with a handy plank of wood, breaking his arm in two places. Up to that moment, he had been happily listening to his Walkman.

    STILL think you’re having a bad day ?

    Two animal rights protesters were protesting at the cruelty of sending pigs to a slaughterhouse in Bonn, Germany. Suddenly, all two thousand pigs broke loose and escaped through a broken fence, stampeding madly. The two hapless protesters were trampled to death.

    There now, feeling better ?

    Reply
  467. Derek Cameron says:

    Hey guys ,Regarding the upcoming Aberdeen get together I take it you know BrewDog have recently opened a new bar in the old Athenaeum building at Castlegate.

    Reply
  468. maureen says:

    Can I have a name badge, maureen will do!

    Reply
  469. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Noted, maureen. You’re third on the list after Pete the Camera and Brian Doonthetoon.

    😎

    Reply
  470. Wuffing Dug says:

    Brian,

    Can I have a badge with ‘Wuffing Dug’ on it please?

    Thinking of pursuing a career in seal rehabilitation right now.

    Didnae know this quarantine area existed.

    Reply
  471. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Wuffing Dug and carjamtic added to the badge list.

    Reply
  472. Wuffing Dug says:

    Thanks Brian.

    Reply
  473. carjamtic says:

    Quality Brian

    Where am I ?……..:-)

    Reply
  474. Ronne says:

    Brian,

    Best put me down for one too.

    List currently numbers 20, but jdman +1 seems doubtful.

    However, I won’t remove anyone unless they confirm they’re not going.

    Reply
  475. X_Sticks says:

    Please, sir, can I be on the list? I’ve always wanted to be on a list.

    Reply
  476. Paula Rose says:

    @X_Sticks – which list would you like *smiles sweetly*

    Reply
  477. Ronnie says:

    Brian,

    My earlier post seems to have disappeared…

    Please add a ‘Ronnie’ to your product list.

    Reply
  478. X_Sticks says:

    @Paula

    Any one, as long as it’s not your naughty list 😉

    Reply
  479. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    I’ve added X_Sticks and Ronnie to the badge list but – an interloper calling himself “Ronne” has also claimed a badge, at 10.59 last night.

    Is this “Ronne” a troll, or a typo, explaining why Ronnie’s post didn’t appear as expected?

    X_Sticks – does Fiona want a badge?

    PS: I hear that Ronnie Anderson will be at ‘Wings Over Aberdeen’, come hell or high (Dee) water…

    Reply
  480. cearc says:

    I should be there unless Aberdeen freezes over.

    Reply
  481. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Hi cearc.

    You’re now on the list. You’ll probably know – why did the chicken think again about crossing the road?

    Here’s the current list I have for those attending ‘Wings Over Aberdeen’, who want a souvenir badge.
    ——————————————
    Pete the Camera
    Brian Doonthetoon
    maureen
    Wuffing Dug
    carjamtic
    X_Sticks
    Ronnie
    Ronnie Anderson
    Paula Rose
    cearc

    Reply
  482. Paula Rose says:

    Beedeeteetee, Honey and Pete the Hunk, Honey – can I have some more of those special badges?

    Reply
  483. cearc says:

    ‘Cos it was nearly teatime?

    Reply
  484. Ronnie says:

    Brian,

    I genuinely didn’t have my post of 10.59 last night on screen this morning – so assumed some glitch.

    But there’s only one of me – as X-Sticks and Wuffing Dug will vouch for!

    It will be a pleasure to finally get to meet Ronnie Anderson.

    For those who have not met either of us – I’m the good-looking one.

    This is gonna be better than I expected!

    Incidentally, I don’t think Brewdog’s Aberdeen II is open yet – pity, we could have had a 50 yard triangular pub crawl.

    Reply
  485. Ronnie says:

    Ooops!

    ‘Ronne’ is my alter ego.

    OK?

    Reply
  486. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    I guess ‘Ronnie’ will be at WOA and ‘Ronne’ (which reads a tad feminine – Paula Rose can decide) will be staying at home, handling herself/himself in the corner. He/she should really get an agent to handle his/her affairs.

    Paula Rose – I understand your plea is under favourable consideration…

    Reply
  487. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    cearc – I don’t have a scooby! You’re the chicken expert!

    8=)

    Reply
  488. X_Sticks says:

    @Brian

    “does Fiona want a badge?”

    She will undoubtedly want a badge 🙂

    Reply
  489. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Hi X_Sticks.

    I’ve added Fiona to the badge list.

    Reply
  490. kendomacaroonbar says:

    @BDTT

    Julia Blechenden-Roe might pitch up. I’ve been asked to forward to her details of the event – can some nice bod forward me the doings.

    Ta

    Reply
  491. Capella says:

    @ BDTT can I have a souvenir badge please? I plan to be there barring floods or blin drift.

    Reply
  492. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Julia Blechenden-Roe and Capella added to the list.

    Hi kendomacaroonbar.

    Details here:-

    link to wingsoverscotland.com

    Reply
  493. Quinie frae Angus says:

    Hi all

    I would like a badge please! And a rumour has it that Cearc knows of a cheap hotel…..any clues please?

    Reply
  494. Ronnie says:

    Quinie,

    Travelodge Bridge Street is advertising £34.

    Reply
  495. Quinie frae Angus says:

    Ooh, thanks Ronnie – I will suss that out.

    Reply
  496. cearc says:

    Quinie,

    The prices are per room, do you want to share?

    It was x-sticks who mentioned the Premier Inn.

    Reply
  497. Paula Rose says:

    Can I share?

    Reply
  498. Quinie frae Angus says:

    Happy to share with you, Cearc, and was wondering if TJenny might like to come along? Alas I no longer have her email address as I lost a lot when I changed computers.

    Paula dear, you’re always welcome to come and have a bit of fun in the girls’ room!

    Reply
  499. Paula Rose says:

    * rapid needlework on pink lacy flouncy stuff – waves*

    Reply
  500. cearc says:

    T Jenny said (on another thread) she couldn’t do overnighters to exotic places.

    I’ll do the booking for a twin-bedded room. I’ll be booking for the night before as well if you want to come early.

    Ahh, a new exotic outfit instead of the scarlet sequined number!

    Reply


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    • Chas on Signal and noise: “Very few comments being posted on Wings nowadays. Even the nutters and cranks who posted umpteen times, every day, now…Mar 14, 11:36
    • agent x on Signal and noise: “I saw reports that Sturgeon had put her name forward for re-election in 2026. Was it published anywhere that she…Mar 14, 11:35
    • willie on Signal and noise: “So Swinney has had tea and biscuits with Eric Trump. Not bad for a man who only a few weeks…Mar 14, 11:25
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