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  1. jimnarlene says:

    As has always been the case, with all the unionists.

    Seasons greetings, to all Wingers, and all the best for 2017.

  2. David MacGille-Mhuire says:

    Excellent. Reminds me of a Brit TV puppet program for kids – forget name, now.

    But where is Trump pulling the ultimate strings on this chain of command scenario?

    Festive salutations to all and forward in the spirit of John MacLean and generations of others who came before us.

  3. Thepnr says:

    Haha Chris. You have May down to a tee and sounding exactly like Thatcher.

  4. jockmcx says:

    “Listen I will say zis only wunce”!…”Wheres me washboard”!

  5. Dr Jim says:

    I can see a Giddy and Cameron relationship forming here

    But with more feet licking

  6. Sassenach says:

    So that’s where the ‘Roaring Mouse’s gets her voice from , then!!

  7. Baldeagle58 says:

    Great cartoon as always Chris.
    Merry Christmas to you and to all Wingers.
    All the Best to everyone for 2017!

  8. defo says:

    What do you get if you cross Chuckie with Pinocchio ?

    May’s looking suitably psychotic.

    Well done Chris. Merry seasonal greetings.

  9. Luigi says:

    Chuckie is behaving herself because Chuckie wants to secure herself a safe Tory seat down in England before she finally gets run out of Scotland. Chuckie is on borrowed time, and she knows it.

    Chuckie always comes first.

  10. gerry parker says:

    Great cartoon Chris.

    Compliments of the season to all.

  11. Macart says:

    Heh. No, leopards don’t change their spots do they?

    After everything the past two years and that shower has thrown at Scotland, it should be pretty much a no brainer at this point. There is no economic, legal, constitutional, practical or moral case for retaining political union. Whatever is left of loyalty toward the ongoing political construct based on the Thames, is based purely on a false sense of identity and narrative of ‘unity’ that never was. Its based on societal division, fear, intimidation and insecurity.

    All that? That’s not us anymore.

    We’ve earned the right to be better. People don’t need or want to live in fear. They don’t want to live on hand outs. They don’t want to wonder what pain the next government is going to pass onto them because that government has pished their money up against a wall. They don’t want their government to punish them or terrify their society. They don’t want their politicians to destroy their public institutions and errode their trust in everything they should have faith in.

    People simply want to get on with their lives in peace and know, KNOW, that their lives and futures are in safe hands that reflect their wishes and values. They want to know that they have government that they have confidence in and that more importantly, has confidence in them.

    As an absent friend would say, peace always people. Have a merry Christmas and all the very best for 2017.

  12. Graf Midgehunter says:

    Thought May looks like the mask of death but as it’s Xmas I shall refrain from saying it… 😉

    As for Ruffie, blabbergob sounds about right.

    Germany shuts down from 2pm for the next two days so I’ve got to get out for some fresh bread otherwise it’s “hard tack” with the Gorgonzola. Bis später..!

  13. Macart says:

    Awwww no!

    Carrie Fisher in critical condition after heart attack on jet liner.

    2016 is really, REALLY not ending quickly enough.

  14. Bugger (le Panda) says:

    I seriously think that May is losing the Plot, big time.

    The Civil Service could possibly be taking the piss of her 3 Wise Monkies as well.

  15. Betty Boop says:

    @ Macart

    Couldn’t be put better and, yes, we can all wish 2016 well away.

    Chris’ cartoons speak volumes.

  16. Adam says:

    Merry Christmas everyone! If you fancy a laugh, and who doesn’t, you might like this piece on Father Christmas being refused a UK visa http://theoccasionalpigeonuk.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/misery-for-millions-as-father-christmas.html

  17. Alex says:

    Another large chunk taken out of the turgid Tories’ posterior through the biting satire of Mr Cairns. Keep it up

  18. Les Wilson says:

    The Muppets are baaaack!

  19. Dunks says:

    Fab toon as always Chris and you strike the nail firmly on the head better than anyone I know.

    Seasons greetings to all and a happy and peaceful 2017 all around this crazy spinning top that is planet earth.

  20. Ken500 says:

    Dr Strangelove

  21. Les Wilson says:

    Merry Xmas Chris, to you and yours.

    Merry Xmas to Stu and all wingers, some great posters on here, and great work from Stu, great links to read and keep for future ref or use.
    We are keeping the flame alive, and it is slowly getting bigger.

    Well done all. Lets roar in 2017.

  22. heedtracker says:

    Hard earned European citizenship ripped up in front of us, but the Empire strikes back. Hello World, they’re baaaaaack.

    UK defence spending Add to myFT
    Britain revives military engagement east of Suez
    New facilities in Gulf and Singapore reflect region’s growing importance

    YESTERDAY by: Jeevan Vasagar in Singapore
    More than four decades after a sweeping military withdrawal from bases “east of Suez”, Britain is scaling up its defence engagement in the Gulf and Asia in what analysts regard as a recognition of the region’s growing global importance.

  23. Valerie says:

    Yup, Ruthless enjoying that cold, clammy hand in her back passage, just a bit too much there. But, she did profess her admiration for Big T, whilst denouncing Scots as thieves, so no surprise.

    Great toon.

  24. Marie Clark says:

    Aye Chris. Many a true word spoken in jest.

    Merry Christmas to all wingers, have a good one folks.

  25. Clootie says:

    A puppet is free as long as it loves it’s strings

  26. galamcennalath says:

    Great cartoon. Ruthie is kidding no one. A TORY to her core. Loyal to London.

    In the ever wise words of WGD … “There’s no Union. There’s never been a Union. All there has ever been is the subordination of Scotland’s national interests to the personal interests of a small number of ambitious individuals whose sense of entitlement is inversely proportional to their talents.” ….. enter and take a bow, Ruthie!

  27. Grouse Beater says:

    Well, the United Nations stuck it to Israel’s invasion of Palestinian territory, that’s one small advance this year. The rest has all been the regressive. Israel is going to take action against every country that voted for the sanction – demonstrating how aggressive is Israel’s foreign policy. Who looks forward to another world war?

    Have a good festive break, Chris.

    Your weekend reading:

    We had our chance: http://wp.me/p4fd9j-bX2

  28. Luigi says:

    Chuckie says:

    “These are my principles, Master Mayhem”

    “If you don’t like them, I have others!”

  29. dakk says:

    Brilliant Chris.

    Right down to wee hard man Ruthie’s tin flute and Babadook Theresa’s raunchy leather Breeks 🙂

    Merry Christmas to all the Wings team and contributors.

  30. Dr Jim says:

    @Valerie

    According to Ruthie Tory insiders she’s over the moon at the moment thinking she’s about to win the next Indyref decimating the SNP and that will pave the way for a Tory Scotland with her as first minister

    So all her bluster about opposing a second Indyref is a double bluff according to those in the know and it’s actually what she dreams of and has been fake campaigning against Indy when It’s actually what she wants to happen for her own devilish ends
    She’s got the FM boxed in exactly where she wants her she thinks

    Personaly I think Ruthie’s overthunk her bloated egotistical brains out, but maybe that’s just me

  31. Luigi says:

    Imagine, producing lifelike, toy puppets of the three Scottish party branch managers (with strings attached). They would have made great party pieces – endless fun after the turkey. Imagine the kinds of tricks and contortions you could make them do. Wish I had thought of marketing them before Christmas, I could have made a fortune. 🙁

    Ah well, there is always next year. Not sure if puppets of Ruthie, Willie and Whatsername will be marketable next year though. Will any of them still be around by then?

    Have a Great Christmas, Y’all and all the best for 2017. 🙂

  32. Gary45% says:

    Cracking Toon Chris, only thing missing is a wee fluffy lying on the floor like a discarded sex toy, hope its not too early in the morning for that image.

  33. Robert Peffers says:

    I suppose that is a big step up from Blair, Broon and Cameron who all professed to listened to their own imaginary superior God being in the sky.

  34. defo says:

    Grouse Beater

    The chosen peeps will be ok. The big man said so.
    It’s us poor goyim sub humans who should be worried.
    IMHO, the test of what the Donald is aw aboot will be his policy on Israel. Not hopeful, but let’s see.
    Feck, I’ll be on a list now…

  35. Capella says:

    That makes Ruthie the wooden mouthpiece of the American poodle. Very apt.

    More like Rottweiler actually. The UK has the 3rd biggest defence budget in the world, after the US $622b and China $192b. We spend $54b. Big Bad Putin spends $48b. That’s less than India and Saudi Arabia.

    More nukes, more Trident (parked in Scotland of course) more BAe systems profits for the shareholders. All at our expense. Thanks Tank Commander Ruth.
    Merry Xmas everybody!

    From Bloomberg report on Jane’s Defence Budgets

    https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/iQk9thmJZURo/v1/-1x-1.png

  36. heedtracker says:

    galamcennalath says:
    24 December, 2016 at 10:01 am
    Great cartoon. Ruthie is kidding no one. A TORY to her core. Loyal to London.

    She’s probably ended her tory career though, by both fighting hard for Remain and now her silly flip flop. Its weakened her beyond repair and verily damaged the Scottish party. If we had an even remotely balanced media etc…

    She should have watched, wondered, learned from sneaky tory shit Teresa’s EU hedge, low profile, remain camping. But no, Ruthie Babes shoots from the mouth, and its all over.

    Ian Murray did exact same with his JC bad monstering, and then ended his front bench career. Here’s to another trip round the Sun, under that brilliant tory yoonery control:-(

  37. Robert Peffers says:

    I’ve enjoyed the works of many great cartoonists who had a politically satirical bent in my lifetime.

    I have no reservations in saying Chris Cairns betters them all.

  38. Smallaxe says:

    A Christmas Cracker Chris, thank you for all your work throughout the year.

    Thank you so much to all who sent me good wishes during my recent relapse, too many to name, but you know who you are, your kind thoughts helped me enormously.I send Peace Love and Happiness to all Wingers and hope that 2017 brings our Independence closer than ever.I hope our children live to see the world at Peace, all peoples free.

    Finally, I know I speak for all in thanking the Rev.Stuart Campbell for his excellent work and for giving us this world-class forum to vent our frustrations and our hopes for the future of Scotland, our Kingdom Nation.

    Peace Always

  39. galamcennalath says:

    Dr Jim says:

    Tory insiders she’s over the moon at the moment thinking she’s about to win the next Indyref

    Not such a ridiculous position as it seems. They want IndyRef2 ASAP before the reality of Brexit becomes obvious. Ruthie will believe Scotland is split 50:50 and she is in with a chance of an early win, a collapse of the SNP, an election, and a Unionist coalition with her at FM.

    Her BIG problem is, as Chris has masterfully drawn, a Tory whose strings are being pulled from London. She has already made gains by hiding the toxicity of the underlying brand, but she keep pretending. A Tory is still a nasty Tory, and they are the party who are bringing Brexit down upon us. Scotland can only become more anti Brexit, pro Indy.

  40. Socrates MacSporran says:

    Nailed it in one Chris, brilliant.

    Merry Christmas to all Wingers.

  41. heedtracker says:

    So many Leave Lies, You deserve the Ruth! you deserve the Ruth!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp5ckai5WGs

    Have a holly, jolly Christmas, It’s the best time of the year, maybe my Slovene girlfriend will let her do panto next year.

  42. ronnie anderson says:

    There’s more than one Wooden Muppet in Scotland,
    giess ah gong luthie, gottle of gear hear goes

    if I were ah manny ah widnae be ah fanny.

  43. Thepnr says:

    @Smallaxe

    Nice to see you posting again. Stay strong, we’ve a battle to win and need all we can muster to slay those dragons.

  44. Marie Clark says:

    Hi Smallaxe,

    Good to see you posting again. I’m pleased that you feel well enough to return to the fold.

    Best wishes to you and Mrs Smallaxe, and tell her thank you for keeping us informed of your progress.

    Merry Christmas to you and yours. Peace and love.

  45. liz says:

    Yeah, the puppet master,very apt.

    Lots going to happen next year, so best wishes to all wingers have a good Christmas

  46. Miss Babington says:

    Excellent from Chris as always, May I take this opportunity to wish all of the Wings family a very happy Christmas and all the best for 2017, My Wings flag survived Barbara and shall continue to fly proudly. Much love to you all.Donna x

  47. Gary45% says:

    Morning Smallaxe,
    Glad your doing fine.
    Merry Christmas to you and Mrs Smallaxe.

  48. heedtracker says:

    ‘Someone cares’: Gordon Brown reaches out to struggling families this Christmas, Daily Record, knows no BetterTogether depths.

    http://archive.is/rUC5F

  49. Another Union Dividend says:

    Last Red Tory astonished that his act of treachery is not forgiven.

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/14986683.Corbyn___39_has_not_spoken_to_his_only_Scottish_MP_in_months__39_/?ref=mr&lp=6

    Ian Murray is sleekit and only held his seat thanks to co-ordinated exaggerated outrage over the SNP candidate’s three year old tweets led by Labour friendly journos David Maddox from Scotsman then Alan Roden in the Daily Mail plus demonised by Labour activists like Dr Scott Arthur who disrupted hustings with his aggressive attacks on Neil Hay.

    http://wingsoverscotland.com/a-serious-case-of-hypocrisy/

  50. Robert Peffers says:

    Here’s a thought!

    Who among us is looking forward to seeing Her Majesty deliver her Christmas Message to her loyal subjects this Christmas?

    Naw! Me neither.

  51. Flower of Scotland says:

    Well done Chris! Seasons greeting to the Rev and all you fantastic Wingers!

    Wouldn’t be without you all! Nice to see you posting smallaxe.

  52. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Very good Cartoon Chris! Made me chuckle.

  53. manandboy says:

    As ever, brilliant, Chris.

    On the front page of The Herald today, another ventriloquist’s dummy, Tom Hunter, in a prepared statement from No.10 Downing St., telling us all that he knows best and that it is much too soon to be thinking of IndyRef2, – best wait till Westminster has dragged us out of Europe – said the spider to the fly.

  54. Valerie says:

    I find this return to military bases in the Gulf incredibly scary, and obviously designed to put fear into Putin. Where is this money coming from? Apart from the implications for where foreign policy is headed, this country is bankrupt.

    How are these financed? Loans and input from Arms manufacturers?

    Sputnik news today, because of course I can’t find any other commentators.

    http://archive.is/QDMhX

  55. Still Positive. says:

    Summed up perfectly, Chris.

  56. galamcennalath says:

    Robert Peffers says:

    Who among us is looking forward to seeing Her Majesty deliver her Christmas Message … Naw! Me neither.

    Indeed. I’d welcome some thoughts from Nicola, though, in these troubled times.

  57. Capella says:

    @ Valerie
    Loved the political cartoon – since it’s cartoon day.
    Boris of Arabia:
    https://twitter.com/Cartoon4sale/status/807662301977448457/photo/1

    Peace on Earth and goodwill to All Men, so they say.

    Hi Smallaxe – great to see you posting again. Merry Xmas to you too.

  58. Iain More says:

    The Masters Voice doesn’t even take a break for Xmas. Witchell will no doubt be telling us that the Royals enjoyed a splendid Xmas despite their colds.

    Well good riddance to 2106. Surely 2017 will be better. I am still in my Ebenezer mood so I wont wish anybody a happy Xmas since my lady friend will be working A&E and will no doubt be run off her feet with the carnage and bloodbath that is Xmas. I am sure that Her Masters Voice at PQ will find something to spin SNP and Scots bad out of it.

    I will wish you all a Happy New Year though safe in the knowledge that I will not be allowing any Yoons to darken my door on Hogmanay.

  59. gerry parker says:

    Robert at 11:02

    We should all go and put our kettle on at 3:00 to let them know we urny listenin!

  60. Hera, hear, Robert Peffers @ 10.30.
    It must stick in the craw of editors at the Yoon Dead Tree Scrolls that they are forbidden by their foreign bosses from hiring this great satirist and draughtsman.

    ‘The Adoration of the MAY-gi.’
    Wonderful Chris, simply crushing in a hilarious way.

    Macart, you set it out in your usual succinct way earlier for all of us.
    There is no ‘Union’ now,if indeed there ever were one, and the Red Blue and Yellow Tories have abandoned any pretence that Scotland is remotely considered an equal Partner Nation.
    Corbyn has ignored Murray for 3 months, and the wee gnaff has gone public complaining about the snub? We knew of course that in the Labour Hierarchy , he never rated. Good of him to confirm it himself.
    Carmichael hides in the WM undergrowth, and Mundell is publicly humiliated, edged out of May’s Cabinet when it comes to Matters Brexit. Right now he’s probably making home made tablet somewhere in the Borders.
    I’m off before Mrs C catches me at the keyboard.
    Ha Bumhug! (Not a transposition.)

  61. Macart says:

    @smallaxe

    🙂 Good to see you. 🙂

  62. Macart says:

    @Jack Collatin

    You and yours have a good one Jack. 🙂

  63. Croompenstein says:

    Cracker Chris, Fat Boab ‘gottle o geer, gottle o geer’

    May everyone have a safe and peaceful holiday especially smallaxe

  64. heedtracker says:

    Scotland, SNP. well anything Scots at all, totally airbrushed out of BBC Xmas political party messages, from our imperial Xmas master baiters, in the UK zone. Wonder how hard they considered their SNP blackout.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38417101

  65. heedtracker says:

    Interesting order of BBC priority, Xmas message wise.

    “UKIP’s Paul Nuttall used his first Christmas message since becoming leader to say his top priority would be to ensure “much faster progress” on Brexit.”

    “Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn used his Christmas message, which he posted on Twitter, to point to Shelter figures suggesting 120,000 children would spend Christmas without a home to call their own while rough sleeping had increased by 30% in the last year.”

    “The Green Party’s newly elected co-leaders, Jonathan Bartley and Caroline Lucas, praised people who worked with refugees and those who campaigned on climate change, as well as NHS workers.”

    SNP can fcuk off:D

  66. Ghillie says:

    Happy Happy Christmas Rev Stu and Chris and Hamish = )

    Peace Joy and Love to all my fellow Wingers !

    And to all our favourite Trolls too =) May Santa bring you a change of heart xxx

    Peace and Love folks, always = )

  67. Macandroid says:

    At 3:00 on Xmas day I will not be listening to their maj.

    Great toon Chris and here’s to 2017 and another year closer to independence.

    Thanks Wingers and Stu for all the incredible knowledge imparted on here.

  68. Proud Cybernat says:

    Belter Chris!

    Rooth the lying Mooth. When everyone else is drinking Pinot Grigio round the Christmas fire, she’ll be asking for another glass of Pino Chio.

    Merry Festivenessness from Mr & Mrs PC and weans Wingers. You too SD.

  69. KOF says:

    @ Robert Peffers

    Tsk! Tsk! I expected more from our resident sovereignty expert.

    If the Queen is sending a message to her loyal subjects, then surely she is only sending it to the people of England, Wales and Northern Ireland? To quote from Wikipedia (yeah, I know) :

    “… every person born within the dominions and allegiance of the English and later British Crown was, based on common law, an English and later British subject. To be a subject required only that a person be born in any territory under the sovereignty of the Crown.”

    As the people of Scotland are sovereign, then we cannot be subjects of the Crown. Hence the xmas message is not for us. 🙂

  70. Graf Midgehunter says:

    ““… every person born within the dominions and allegiance of the English and later British Crown was, based on common law, an English and later British subject. To be a subject required only that a person be born in any territory under the sovereignty of the Crown.”

    As the people of Scotland are sovereign, then we cannot be subjects of the Crown. Hence the xmas message is not for us.”

    @ KOF

    The BBC will still ram it down yer throat wether you like it or not you ungratefull little scottish person… 😉

  71. Muscleguy says:

    A most merry Yuletide to you Chris. I hope you phone this one well in advance and have your feet up already. Thankyou very much for all your most excellent cartoons over the years. Some go for facile images but you never do. Keep on keeping on for IndyRef2.

  72. Nana says:

    Excellent cartoon.

    Hey Smallaxe, good to see you posting.

    May I wish you all a Happy Christmas xx

  73. Stoker says:

    What you can’t see in Chris’ toon is Dippy Dug behind the curtain screaming for attention and still trying to fool us all into believing her and her office are autonomous. If you listen very carefully you’ll hear her….

    I’ve got no strings to hold me up, la la la lalala la.
    I’ve got no strings, so i have fun, I’m not tied up to anyone.
    Ruth’s got strings, but you can see, there are no strings on me.

    I’ve got strings, but entre nous, i’d cut my strings for you.
    Down where the Volga flows, There’s a Russian rendezvous.
    Where me and Willie go, but i’d rather go with you and our WMD’, there are no strings on me, hey!

    (With special thanks to Disney’s Pinnochio for the revelations)
    😉

  74. HandandShrimp says:

    Ruth is now in the position that Johann Lamont was in as the leader of the Labour branch office. Ruth has to front up policies nad people that she does not like when all she wants to do is talk about No Surrender Yoonery.

    She doesn’t look comfortable or convincing with May’s hand up there.

  75. HandandShrimp says:

    Oh and a very merry Christmas to you all.

  76. John H. says:

    Great cartoon Chris. A pity we can’t see the hand of the City boys working May from the back.

  77. John H. says:

    Merry Christmas everybody.

  78. Artyhetty says:

    Excellent image once again Chris. Wee ruthie’s cheeks, and her sinister master, perfect description of these troughers.

    Sad to see a Twitter post about a young man who had to turn down tinned food at a foodbank due to having no electricity to heat it up. I say sad, more mad really. These takers of the public purse, by no small amount, should be locked up for attacking their own people, leaving them destitute and
    the biggest crime, not giving a s**t.

    Have a wonderful xmas everyone of you good people here on WoS. Even with a bad cold and some kind of nasty tonsillitis I am determined to enjoy the next couple of days.

    Have a great time all, and of Rev Stu, who keeps the b******s feet to the fire, and they hate that! ?

  79. Artyhetty says:

    ? meant to be a 🙂
    and of course Rev Stu, not of. Not sure why one sentence broke up, wasn’t typed like that. Oh wtf, have a good time all! :-))

  80. Kendo Macaroonbar says:

    Excellent Chris, Supertoon

    May I wish fellow Wingers a’best for what’s ahead and to also remind them that the exclusive Peter A Bell interview with the Rev Stu can be found here – for less than the price of a big posh cup of coffee you can find out what drives the man to keep this site going 24/7/365/indy

    www(dot)pocketmags(dot)com/iscot

  81. starlaw says:

    Great cartoon again
    would like to wish every one a merry and peaceful Christmas. I wont be watching the Queen and don’t know anyone who does. In fact I only ever heard people claiming not to have watched it.

  82. Marconatrix says:

    @ Capella 10:24
    Those figures are an eye-opener, well to me at least. Does that make the UK the world´s highest military spender per head of population? Where is the enemy? Are we, the people, the enemy of last resort??
    Scary thought, no??

  83. Les Wilson says:

    Here is an interesting American viewpoint on “fake news” which is an international thing now. Something a lot of us are too well aware of.

    http://bonnerandpartners.com/government-and-news-are-part-of-the-same-myth/

  84. dramfineday says:

    Chris Cairns…..Ace cartoonist!

    Best wishes of the season to you Stuart, Chris and all the contributors, readers and commentators that make this site so special.

    Kind Regards

    Dram

  85. Dan Huil says:

    The Ruthsfuhrer likes to sit on strange things.

  86. Best wishes in an advance to all of you. I suspect however will not be going to my stocking first thing tomorrow but sneaking on to my computer again to see what anybody has to say.
    Sorry,Santa

    O/T
    There is a now a Christmas tree in the Aleppo’s central square which would not have been there if the other side had won.
    The truth is now emerging and hopefully will become accepted as the reality of situation asserts itself. This will not happen without a determined and continuous action to get the truth out. We have a New Year to face and hopefully a new year in which the huge lies about our disgraceful compliance in direct contravention of the UN Charter in an illegal and murderous campaign against another sovereign nation is fully exposed.
    As the people of Syria rejoice in the streets at the victory of their troops and their elected president – a national rejoicing our media seem determined to keep from us – over an externally financed invasion Syrian self determination has been rescued. The evidence of the overwhelming support of the Syrian people for their president is well recorded and not hard to find. That the US (with its Saudi and UK allies) find him an impediment to their plans for Middle Eastern control provides no justification whatsoever for their activity in the region. I need to say nothing more. I will leave it to Peter Ford, ex UK ambassador to Syria.
    My first sentence above are his words. Ford reaffirms that the “moderate” opposition is very small and the dominant extreme elements are unreconstructed jihadis bent on destroying the west. He says that “the British Foreign Office, to which I used to belong, I’m sorry to say has got Syria wrong every step of the way. We have made the situation worse. Now they are telling us another big lie, that Assad can’t control the rest of the country. Well, I’ve got news for them. He is well on the way to doing so.”
    It is my belief that once the truth of the murderous invasion of Syria is widely accessed and believed and the UK’s part in this is recognised it will strike another blow at the credibility of the union that Scotland is trapped in and shred away another layer of respect that some of us still hold for the failing UK state.
    Meanwhile Syria’s Christmas is real

  87. Capella says:

    @ Marconatrix – yes the figures certainly put the sabre rattling in perspective. The US spends way more than all the other top ten combined. Most of the Saudi spend will be in the UK and US. So arms manufacturing is a major industry in the UK. It’s a brilliant scam. Keep the wars going!

    Pity sometimes people get hurt.
    Peace on Earth!

    https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/iQk9thmJZURo/v1/-1x-1.png

  88. Robert Peffers says:

    @Miss Babington says: 24 December, 2016 at 10:47 am:

    “Excellent from Chris as always, May I take this opportunity to wish all of the Wings family a very happy Christmas and all the best for 2017, My Wings flag survived Barbara and shall continue to fly proudly. Much love to you all.Donna x”

    Well Donna, In regard to Storm Barbara, you know what they say about the female of the species, don’t you?

    :-

    ” The Female of the Species

    WHEN the Himalayan peasant meets the he-bear in his pride,
    He shouts to scare the monster, who will often turn aside.
    But the she-bear thus accosted rends the peasant tooth and nail.
    For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.

    When Nag the basking cobra hears the careless foot of man,
    He will sometimes wriggle sideways and avoid it if he can.
    But his mate makes no such motion where she camps beside the trail.
    For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.

    When the early Jesuit fathers preached to Hurons and Choctaws,
    They prayed to be delivered from the vengeance of the squaws.
    ‘Twas the women, not the warriors, turned those stark enthusiasts pale.
    For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.

    Man’s timid heart is bursting with the things he must not say,
    For the Woman that God gave him isn’t his to give away;
    But when hunter meets with husbands, each confirms the other’s tale—
    The female of the species is more deadly than the male.

    Man, a bear in most relations—worm and savage otherwise,—
    Man propounds negotiations, Man accepts the compromise.
    Very rarely will he squarely push the logic of a fact
    To its ultimate conclusion in unmitigated act.

    Fear, or foolishness, impels him, ere he lay the wicked low,
    To concede some form of trial even to his fiercest foe.
    Mirth obscene diverts his anger—Doubt and Pity oft perplex
    Him in dealing with an issue—to the scandal of The Sex!

    But the Woman that God gave him, every fibre of her frame
    Proves her launched for one sole issue, armed and engined for the same;
    And to serve that single issue, lest the generations fail,
    The female of the species must be deadlier than the male.

    She who faces Death by torture for each life beneath her breast
    May not deal in doubt or pity—must not swerve for fact or jest.
    These be purely male diversions—not in these her honour dwells—
    She the Other Law we live by, is that Law and nothing else.

    She can bring no more to living than the powers that make her great
    As the Mother of the Infant and the Mistress of the Mate.
    And when Babe and Man are lacking and she strides unclaimed to claim
    Her right as femme (and baron), her equipment is the same.

    She is wedded to convictions—in default of grosser ties;
    Her contentions are her children, Heaven help him who denies!—
    He will meet no suave discussion, but the instant, white-hot, wild,
    Wakened female of the species warring as for spouse and child.

    Unprovoked and awful charges—even so the she-bear fights,
    Speech that drips, corrodes, and poisons—even so the cobra bites,
    Scientific vivisection of one nerve till it is raw
    And the victim writhes in anguish—like the Jesuit with the squaw!

    So it comes that Man, the coward, when he gathers to confer
    With his fellow-braves in council, dare not leave a place for her
    Where, at war with Life and Conscience, he uplifts his erring hands
    To some God of Abstract Justice—which no woman understands.

    And Man knows it! Knows, moreover, that the Woman that God gave him
    Must command but may not govern—shall enthral but not enslave him.
    And She knows, because She warns him, and Her instincts never fail,
    That the Female of Her Species is more deadly than the Male. “

    Rudyard Kipling (1865-1936)

  89. Robert J. Sutherland says:

    Brilliant, just brilliant.

    The would-be leader of the Proud Scot Buts portrayed as the puppet she really always has been.

  90. KOF says:

    @ Graf Midgehunter 12:07

    “The BBC will still ram it down yer throat wether you like it or not you ungratefull little scottish person… ?”

    Hehe! S’okay, I’m immune to their ramming. I’ve learned to breath through my ears! 🙂

  91. Hamish100 says:

    Now wouldn’t Chris Cairns artworks look good in full sale posters around the whole of Scotland. I think they hit the nail on the head than any 4 page booklet or two. It shows the tories and britnats as they really are.

    A picture is worth a …………..

  92. galamcennalath says:

    It’s a sair fecht indeed when the Scottish official opposition party only represents those suffering from Jockholm Syndrome!

  93. heedtracker says:

    Capella

    So arms manufacturing is a major industry in the UK. It’s a brilliant scam. Keep the wars going!

    Arms manufacturing is almost the last big non service industry in the UK. Its got a lot of multipliers too but most importantly, its got massive political weight, when you can literally pick and choose what part of teamGB is worthy of UK military spends. Look at Crash Gordo and his two £6+bn white elephant aircraft carriers in Fife, where he’s UKOK king of the world.

    So its got all that the tories like about public sector spends, pumping a lot of taxation into the private sector, where you decide and all that hard power, world prestige, rule Britannia style.

    This is how toryboy world works. Look at how the toryboys have effectively privatised the whole university education sector in England and Wales. Its for their own good you see, its too thinly spread out and not great multipliers.

  94. Robert Peffers says:

    @manandboy says: 24 December, 2016 at 11:09 am:

    ” … he knows best and that it is much too soon to be thinking of IndyRef2, – best wait till Westminster has dragged us out of Europe – said the spider to the fly”

    Not sure about the spider bit, manandboy, but the guy is certainly a fly enough gadgie and Tory through and through.

  95. Richy Duncan says:

    A Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all at Wings .

    Thank you Mr Campbell and every commenter and non – commenters reading this . You keep the flame of Indi burning brightly and give hope to so many .

    Smallaxe its good to see you posting again . Keep fighting . You had us worried buddy .

    I’ve had a miserable year health wise , although not life threatening . Its kept me from commenting much but i read every single one of your comments . I cannot stress how much of a tonic you are .

    More of the same for next year my friends . I ‘ll be here cheering on the sides . Maybe improve enough healthwise to get to Wingers Meet .

    Roll on 2017 …. i don’t think it will be as quiet and dull as Our Stuart thinks might happen . They cant help themselves down south .

    YESGUY

  96. Stoker says:

    Hamish100 wrote on 24 December, 2016 at 1:44 pm:

    “Now wouldn’t Chris Cairns artworks look good in full scale posters around the whole of Scotland.”

    Aye! Been saying that for ever and a day. That’s what i do and the feedback responses have been truly positive and, more surprisingly, their sources quite pleasing. Sorry i can’t elaborate but i’m not going to risk putting peoples jobs at risk.

    Vistaprint do quality high gloss finishes for a reasonable sum.
    A1 poster size, perfect large fit for most household windows.
    Delivered to your door in a protective hard cardboard tube which enables you to change and store posters for further showings at a later date.

    We all have our very own ready made billboards, use them!
    😉

  97. Dan Huil says:

    It used to be tradition to swap ghost stories at Christmas time. Erm, anyone have the nerve to watch Theresa May’s Christmas message? I only managed a few seconds online. Truly truly scary.

  98. Hamish100 says:

    Stoker

    Your right of course and I know you have been pushing for this.
    We should be doing this now and outwith the “polling” restrictions which the tories can ignore because they have the press sewn up and can write what they want.

    I think full scale posters on the M8 , M74 , A9 , A82 etc on bus routes, etc is a way to get a serious message across but with a smile

  99. bugsbunny says:

    David MacGille Mhuire@ 7.18,

    Do you mean this puppet?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoLaP-HjKFQ

    BNP youth paroday

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d02T_bQO8k

  100. Stoker says:

    Hamish100 at 2:43 pm

    Exactly! Don’t know how many times i’ve travelled along various motorways, especially the M8, and seen these huge advertising trucks just sitting in some field at the edge of the motorway.

    Could not tell you their rates but they usually have a large contact number on them. Maybe the Inform Scotland team could consider this as another option, if they haven’t already done so.

  101. Graf Midgehunter says:

    A very merry and peacefull Xmas to all Wingers, lurkers and future YES voters.
    Smallaxe – the Guardian of the Borders. 🙂

    To the Master of Bath who makes this site possible and scares the living daylights out of the Yoonionists, a big thank you from me.

    Over here Xmas Eve is the big day. A lovely meal, presents, Glög, nice folk.

    NO Queen, just President Gauck who does a good impression of being a Head of State. 😉

    So see you all tomorrow, be nice..

  102. bugsbunny says:

    That second one, the BNP Youth Parody should be:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d02T__bQO8k

  103. CmonIndy says:

    Oh no. Now Rick Parfitt.
    David Gilmour wrap yourself in cotton wool.

  104. mumsyhugs says:

    Merry Xmas to one and all – posters and ‘lurkers’ alike 🙂 – and thanks to the rev for his words of wisdom and Chris for his ‘word pictures’ that speak volumes – quite a combination!

  105. Proud Cybernat says:

    *** BREAKING ***

    Ruth dumped…

    http://imgur.com/a/NJ5b2

    HAPPY CHRISTMAS!!!!!

  106. Jack Murphy says:

    BBC News UK Politics on-line.
    It reports the Party Leaders’ Christmas Messages to the United Kingdom in this order:

    Theresa May,….Tory
    Paul Nuttall,….. .UKIP
    Jeremy Corbyn,..Labour
    Tim Farron,…….LibDem
    Co-leaders,…….Green Party

    The BBC UK ignores the THIRD largest parliamentary group in the United Kingdom House of Commons.

    http://archive.is/RDYJQ

  107. Thepnr says:

    @Proud Cybernat

    Very nice 🙂

  108. Robert J. Sutherland says:

    galamcennalath @ 13:45,

    “Jockholm Syndrome” – heh, heh, I like it!

    But not too surprising that the Ruth Davidson Party wants to represent such unfortunates, since they are the biggest sufferers themselves!

  109. @Graf Midgehunter

    ein glückliches Weihnachten,

    hopefully that is `Have a happy Christmas`

    be safe.

  110. Hamish100 says:

    See Tom Gordon of the Herald is trying his usual divide and rule tricks. Does he have anything new to say?

    Maybe he will tell us who Spanner is, as a scoop for the New Year?

    Ah yoons

  111. Gary45% says:

    Robert Peffers@1.40
    Melt in the mouth pastry, bursting with real fruity flavours.
    Mr Kipling.

  112. Conan the Librarian™ says:

    The leader of a party that has well over fifty MPs in Westminster doesn’t get a mention on “National” news, yet Ukip with one does.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/contact_us/making_a_complaint.html

  113. Bob Mack says:

    As I have come to expect Chris. Brilliance.

    A very merry festive season to all, and let us prepare ourselves for next year.

  114. handclapping says:

    No, Chris, you must be wrong. After all Prime Minister Theresa May in her party conference speech: “… a sense – deep, profound and let’s face it often justified – that many people have today that the world works well for a privileged few, but not for them. We need them to know that they have a voice that will be listened to, in our democracy no citizen will ever be rendered voiceless or powerless by a mighty state or a mighty bureaucracy.” 🙁

    Merry Christmas to Stu, his helpers and readers and lookers.
    And mistletoe unnder the bridge for the trolls.

  115. galamcennalath says:

    Conan the Librarian™ says:

    The leader of a party that has well over fifty MPs in Westminster doesn’t get a mention on “National” news, yet Ukip with one does.

    Another way to analyse is … “it’s all about England”.

    Any party with no representation from England simply isn’t worthy of mention. Colonial parties are by definition, just not part of the club.

    Scottish National Party 56
    Democratic Unionist Party 8 (same as LibDems)
    Sinn Féin 4
    Plaid Cymru 3
    Social Democratic & Labour Party 3
    Ulster Unionist Party 2

  116. Clapper57 says:

    Season’s greetings to all who post and read WOS.

    Have a guid Christmas and a happy New Year.

    “When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace”

    Who said that ?

    Peace and Love people……ps….I am drinking Port just now….however my sentiment is sincere as not at slurring stage….yet…..pps…Rev Stu you is da business…….ppps …….not at falling off chair stage……yet.

    Really love you guys n gals.

  117. Robert Peffers says:

    @galamcennalath says: 24 December, 2016 at 11:14 am:

    “Indeed. I’d welcome some thoughts from Nicola, though, in these troubled times.”

    Tell you what, galamcennalath, I was never bothered one way or another by the royalty thing. I accepted Her Majesty was Queen of England but also Queen of Scots and thus she had two jobs to do that really should not conflict one with the other.

    As Queen of the Kingdom of England she is legally sovereign in that kingdom and is also the Queen of Wales and N. Ireland. Thus, as Queen of that kingdom of England, she legally owns it all and the people are her subjects.

    While, as Queen of Scots she doesn’t own Scotland and we Scots cannot thus be her subject but her job is to be the protector of our sovereignty.

    I had a very rapid conversion to republicanism when Cameron reported that she had purred upon getting told we had lost the referendum. Now I realise Cameron could well be attempting to mislead us but the fact is her maj has never corrected Cameron’s claims.

    Being impartial is one thing but allowing a false impression to stand uncorrected is quite another. So I’m with you in accepting the leader of the Kingdom of Scotland is , as long as a majority want Nicola as FM, the one a majority of Scots chose as leader and she shows far more concerns for our sovereignty than, “Queen Elizabeth II of England and Elizabeth I, Queen of Scots.

    Here is the paragraph quoted from the Declaration of Arbroath that Scots Law is largely based upon, This says that we, the sovereign people of Scotland, can sack a Monarch who does not do their job to our satisfaction –

    “Yet if (s)he should give up what (s)he has begun, seeking to make us or our kingdom subject to the King of England or the English, we should exert ourselves at once to drive him, (her), out as our enemy and a subverter of his(her) own right and ours, and make some other (wo)man who was well able to defend us our King/Queen; for, as long as a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any conditions be subjected to the lordship of the English. It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.”

    The Queen of Scots would do well to heed that statement. (I wonder if it is, perhaps, a bit cold in the Tower of London these Winter days)?

  118. Robert Graham says:

    A wee word for anyone tempted to complain to the BBC don’t waste your valuable time, brick wall and head against it comes to mind, they don’t care, won’t listen, they are not your friends.even on Christmas Eve they can’t bring themselves to give the SNP an even break , B*****ds .
    To everyone else here have a peaceful Christmas and a happy New Year.

  119. CameronB Brodie says:

    Further to Macart @8:26am

    The failures and weaknesses of corporatist forms of government were understood back in the 1980’s. What followed was a failed attempt to shape an “enterprise” culture, that has removed much of the social safety net but has done little to rid us of corporatism.

    In her article for CapX, Harriet Maltby raises the question of morality, and asks whether it has been debased because, as some critics allege, “capitalism has transformed us into heartless materialistic machines whose only moral code is fame and money”. She sets against this attitude an essentially Aristotelian morality in which ‘being’ is vastly more important than ‘having’, and concludes that capitalism is not antithetic to virtue because it gives us freedom to choose.

    Though she is undoubtedly correct to argue that there need be no inconsistency between capitalism and morality (used here in the Aristotelian sense), it would be wrong to accept, as so many do, that Britain, for example, has a capitalist economic system. The system that Britain actually has is not capitalism at all, but a toxic variant known as “corporatism”. Understanding this is critical to an appreciation of why, despite the virtues of capitalism, so much of what happens in Britain undoubtedly seems morally retrograde.

    https://capx.co/capitalism-corporatism-and-morality/

    Seasoned Greetings and best wishes to all.

  120. galamcennalath says:

    Merry Christmas Wingers 🙂

    A wee song from last year’s BBC Alba Hogmanay show.

    youtube.com/watch?v=V4HLpNybgss

  121. ahundredthidiot says:

    Brilliant Chris

    Merry Christmas to Wingers everywhere

  122. louis.b.argyll says:

    CBB, MCCART,
    The truth about the truth is the subject. Good stuff.

  123. Ealasaid says:

    Valerie 11:10am

    “I find this return to military bases in the Gulf incredibly scary, and obviously designed to put fear into Putin.”

    I cannot help seeing that the UK government is continuing, in its arrogant way, to posture and throw its weight around, with regard to other countries, on this planet.

    We are always worried that they will rig a second Indyref. If they carry on in this manner, unlike last time, we may find Russian hackers and other countries giving us a hand to win our independence. ?

    Another fantastic cartoon Chris. I have never seen you do anything less.

    Best wishes for a wonderful festive season to the Rev, Chris and all who post and read on Wings.

  124. Galamcennalath, Luke Kelly’s version is mindblowing. Thanks for the lift at the end of what has been a shitty year all round.
    Smallaxe, Onwards.

  125. yesindyref2 says:

    @Valerie
    It’s actually old news, from the summer I think. And it makes sense for the UK, the UK provides ships and forces for Horn of Africa, anti-smuggling and piracy, as part of NATO, it does that more in proportion, but less in the Arctic and North Atlantic as its contribution.

    It also provides mine counter measures, and of course Sputnik when it mentions the UK’s “naval presence” of HMS Middleton forgets to mention that she’s an MCM ship.

    The Russians are as good at propaganda as the BBC is. It’s not what theys say, it’s often what they don’t say.

    Anyway, in case I’m not posting again before, Merry Christmas to all. Nadolig Llawen!

  126. Legerwood says:

    Robert Graham says:
    24 December, 2016 at 5:54 pm
    “”A wee word for anyone tempted to complain to the BBC don’t waste your valuable time, brick wall and head against it comes to mind, they don’t care, won’t listen, they are not your friends.even on Christmas Eve they can’t bring themselves to give the SNP an even break , B*****ds .
    To everyone else here have a peaceful Christmas and a happy New Year.””

    ……….

    Of course another possible way to look at it is that the BBC, by omitting the SNP, just put two fingers up to Mrs May and her message of unity by showing how disunited this United Kingdom actually is.

  127. yesindyref2 says:

    I’m going to guess as well by the way that the Bahrain naval base will also allow the RN to replace the use of T23 Frigates in those piracy and smuggling patrols, with one or two River Class OPVs such as those being built now. It’s not a lot of difference in range, 5,500 nm for the OPV as opposed to 7,000 for the T23, but every little helps, and the slightly slower speed of the OPV would be helped by being based nearer the patrol area. The base would also of course help patrols of the Gulf of Aden, Red Sea, and keeping open the Suez canal – a vital shipping lane even for China and Russia as well.

    Don’t drink much these days but managed to keep up with son (nearly) from before 6 to after 1 last night in a few hostelries so there’s life in the old dog. Still a little bit tender!

  128. mike d says:

    Stoker 3.00pm love this idea. Great way to get message across to expats driving home.

  129. Lollysmum says:

    Happy Christmas to Rev Stu, Chris Cairns & to all wingers old, new, posting or lurking. Enjoy your break & come back refreshed to start all over again next year 🙂

  130. brewsed says:

    Apologies for the O/T but it might cheer a few of you up.

    Trump’s original planning application for Balmedie north of Aberdeen included: Two 18-hole golf courses (a championship links course and a second course); a golf clubhouse, golf academy and ancillary buildings; a driving range and short game practice area; a resort hotel (450 rooms) with conference centre and spa; 36 ‘golf villas’; accommodation for 400 staff (all of the foregoing comprising ‘phase 1’); 950 holiday apartments in four blocks; up to 500 houses and community facilities. Only one golf course, a small club house and refurbished Menie estate house has been completed. Trump recently requested planning permission for a much reduced scope of build and this was passed by Aberdeenshire Council.

    However, as part of a review of Aberdeenshire’s local development plan, the Scottish Government have said Trump must stick to the original plan which, along with the above, includes: ‘The development will need to be supported by a comprehensive travel plan and new or extended bus services must be provided. Beyond phases 1 and 2 a grade separated junction with the A90(T) will be required to be completed before any further development is permitted to be occupied. Access plans are necessary to safeguard public access. A design review process will be required and Architecture and Design Scotland or the Aberdeen City and Shire Design Review Panel may be asked to participate in this review process. Design briefs and a construction method statement are required.’

    i.e. it aint gonna happen.

    Full details in various parts of this 918 page document: https://www.aberdeenshire.gov.uk/media/19314/eip-report-dec-2016.pdf

    Taking the piss out of Alex Salmond can have its drawbacks.

    A Merry Brexmess to all.

  131. Paula Rose says:

    Have a Yummy Yule all you lovely people xx

  132. mealer says:

    Ho!Ho!Ho! Etc

    I’m not British myself,but a lot of my friends are.The day I start picking my friends according to their politics,religion,colour,creed or nationality is the day I shrivel up and die.With that in mind can I recommend you go on YouTube and look for Killard House Special School Choirs rendition of “Hallelujia”.Better still if someone able could post a link.

  133. ScottieDog says:

    I noticed Michael (economically illiterate) Fry in the national taking a potshot at the Scottish governments running of the economy.

    Just having a look at where Iceland was in 2008…and where it is now.
    http://www.tradingeconomics.com/iceland/government-budget

    The turnaround could never have been achieved by varying tax levels in a depressed economy (basically what we being expected to do).
    Rather it was achieved by government injecting more money into the economy.

    The only way we can have any impact on our deficit is by
    A controlling our export revenue
    B having the ability to increase the amount of money in our economy.

    We can do neither.

    Merry Christmas!

  134. mike d says:

    Mealer 8.36pm. While being Scottish born,my irish passport don’t make me a brit . and while i love all family and friends,and wish them all a merry xmass and happy new year. There is no place in my heart for those who purport to be Scottish and family who owe their allegiance to westmidden.

  135. Dr Jim says:

    Complaints from Unionists about polish food appearing in our supermarkets occupying aisles next to our own normal Britsh food you know like bananas, oranges, boxes of curries and our good old staple, burgers

    What’s the world coming to foreign food eh you just can’t be doing with it

    We’ll always have the potato, oh wait (sigh)

  136. Robert Peffers says:

    @Dan Huil says: 24 December, 2016 at 2:41 pm:

    ” … anyone have the nerve to watch Theresa May’s Christmas message? I only managed a few seconds online. Truly truly scary.”

    Isn’t it just scary, Dan?

    You have to wonder how a woman with such a poor education can become the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. The woman actually seems to believes that Britain voted to leave the European Union by 52% to leave and 48% to remain.

    Yet only the United Kingdom parts of Britain took part in the, laughably titled, “Brexit”, (Supposedly it is short for, “British Exit”, Referendum.

    Mind you the very term, “BREXIT” seems to bear out that these people actually are so ignorant of the geography of Britain

    Then the Prime Minister claims that Britain must unite after the vote. Either that or the congenital idiots of the BBC are misreporting her Christmas Message.

    Now, as far as I know only the “United Kingdom” parts of Britain voted in the Referendum and the reason those parts are titled, “The United Kingdom”, is because these parts of Britain are, would you believe it, already united? Yet this ignorant woman seems to think that they are not.

    Mind you at least one of the only two Kingdoms that comprise that, “United Kingdom”, may already have a majority of their voters eager to disunited the, “United Kingdom”.

    However, they are, at the moment, still a bipartite union called, “The United Kingdom.”

    The only other interpretation would be that the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom is about to invade the Republic of Ireland and the three non-UK government Crown Protectorates.

    I’m sure none of them wants to voluntarily become part of the United Kingdom or they would have done so long ago. In fact the Irish Republicans fought and died to get out of the United Kingdom.

    So either Thereasa May is a dunce or the BBC are a whole corporate bunch of dunces or both. The alternative that Westminster will force the rest of Britain to become parts of, what is actually the parliament of the country of England, doesn’t bear thinking about.

    Yet it must be true – It’s on the BBC.

  137. Capella says:

    @ Yesindyref 2 7.19 – I don’t think the aeticle Valerie linked to is old news. It references a speech made by Boris Johnson on 16th December in Bahrain:

    “And so tonight I want to acknowledge that this policy of disengagement East of Suez was a mistake and in so far as we are now capable, and we are capable of a lot, we want to reverse that policy at least in this sense: that we recognise the strong historical attachment between Britain and the Gulf, and more importantly, we underscore the growing relevance and importance of that relationship in today’s uncertain and volatile world.”

    Sounds like a reversal of policy to me.

    Published by the Foreign and Commonwealth Office.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/foreign-secretary-speech-britain-is-back-east-of-suez

  138. ArtyHetty says:

    RE’ Mealer@8.36pm

    Tolerance is indeed a virtue, but I draw the line when it comes to
    fascists, and/or those who would see their fellow humans suffer, starve, be left out in the cold, have no clean water to drink, etc.

    While we all want to embrace diversity, and few, if any on WoS reject diversity imo, we also have to draw the line somewhere.

    ‘Hallelulia, ( or however it is spelled)| indeed, for those who work daily to protect the most vulnerable,the sick, disabled,the oppressed, the tortured, the innocent, the most brave and honest among us.

    I definitely draw the line at those who create hardship, poverty and promote hatred, and we all know who they are.

    So, yes, let us pray to the spaghetti god or someone but no thanks to deliberately creating divide for self gain. That is all too prevalent and it has to stop.

    Peace to all. Tolerance to tolerance, when life affirming, and when based on knowledge, oherwise we are all fucked.

  139. yesindyref2 says:

    @Capella
    Yes, Boris’s speech might br new, but the base was announced months ago. Referred to here in July for instance:

    http://www.thinkdefence.co.uk/2016/07/speech-first-sea-lords-defence-security-lecture-city-london/

    The opening of our new naval base in Bahrain in the next few years will, quite literally, cement the Royal Navy’s commitment to the Gulf.

    I thnk it was in the Herald before that.

  140. Still Positive. says:

    ArtyHetty @ 9.45.

    Totally agree.

    I wish Rev. Stu, Chris Cairns, all other posters, btl commentators and lurkers a very Happy Christmas and peace to you all.

  141. Terry says:

    Ha ha. Was on LBC there making a point about brexit and the Supreme Court. The interviewer said ‘won’t the brexiteers be angry if it doesn’t go through?’ I replied ‘I’ve been campaigning a whole lot longer for Scottish independence’. Then he cut me off. He he. England is far more self obsessed over brexit. At least we are trying to build a new country instead of clinging to a has been empire

  142. Thepnr says:

    @Terry

    Well done lol.

  143. Robert Peffers says:

    So best wishes to all this Yuletide and a special wish to smallaxe and family.

  144. Macart says:

    @Robert Peffers

    Right back at you Robert. 🙂

    Peace wingers and keep up the good fight smallaxe.

  145. Still Positive. says:

    Special Christmas wishes to Smallaxe and his family.

  146. Fireproofjim says:

    A Very Happy Christmas to all Wingers.
    This time next year we’ll be ……………..

  147. Thepnr says:

    Running our own country.

  148. defo says:

    Millionaire’s Rodney 🙂

  149. Thepnr says:

    @defo

    LOL that was better.

  150. Liz g says:

    Happy Holidays Everyone X

  151. ben madigan says:

    best wishes to the Rev, Chris, all other Wings friends, independistas and commentators for a very Happy Christmas
    Nollaig shona daoibh

  152. Still Positive. says:

    Happy Christmas all.

  153. heedtracker says:

    Fireproofjim says:
    24 December, 2016 at 11:11 pm
    A Very Happy Christmas to all Wingers.
    This time next year we’ll be …

    Reigned over by my Slovene girlfriend, Professor Smirky.

    Adam Tomkins MSP ?@ProfTomkins 9h9 hours ago
    Anyway, that’s Christmas Eve sorted, ask Santa for FM job.

    Merry Christmas Rev Stu Campbell and every other YESer, all over the world.

  154. Meg merrilees says:

    Wishing all Wingers a very Happy Christmas and some peaceful days ahead.

    Take it easy, Smallaxe and stay well.

    Amazing cartoon again, Chris and thank you Rev for a brilliant website.

  155. ArtyHetty says:

    Orwellian or not, I tried posting a vid from youtube several times, of Aldous Huxley being interviewed about the state of interference in freedom of expression, back in 1958.

    Look it up, because it ain’t gonna show up on this site anytime soon.

    Will try to post link to specific talk, again.

  156. uno mas says:

    “Do the Russians love their children”?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7C2MKoBL7Q

    It would appear so.

  157. CameronB Brodie says:

    ArtyHetty
    Though they appear on the post, you have to remove all characters appearing before the www on youtube addresses, otherwise the link is rejected.

  158. ArtyHetty says:

    https://duckduckgo.com/?t=lm&q=ald&ia=meanings

    might work, hopefully correct link.

  159. Cactus says:

    Merry December Day.
    X.

  160. Paula Rose says:

    I’m hoping to have some good news to share with you in the new year.

  161. twathater says:

    Maria F @ 3.40pm

    Maria F tore sd a new one , on the previous post yesterday loved her anger

    Merry Christmas and a wonderful New Year to All independenistas

  162. Robert J. Sutherland says:

    It’s here!

    Merry Christmas, one and all.

    Have a wonderful day, however you enjoy it.

    (Hmmm, that sounds interesting, Mystic Paula…)

  163. defo says:

    Who’s the daddy Paula ?

  164. schrodingers cat says:

    I’m fighting drunk
    my vision is shot
    my legs are gone
    and I may fall over at any moment
    so watch it!

    happy xmas wingers 🙂

  165. Jamur says:

    Brothers and Sisters aww the best.
    Alba will be ours.
    XxX

  166. mealer says:

    Merry Christmas!

  167. Bill McLean says:

    Season’s Greetings to all!

  168. Clootie says:

    3:37am @dero

    Funny but dangerous…it has been nice knowing you!

  169. Stephen McKenzie says:

    Merry Christmas to all Wingers wherever you are and to the Rev for all his fantastic work.

  170. Hoss Mackintosh says:

    Merry Xmas Wingers and Rev Stu.

    Seasons Greeting and Hopes for an Indy Bonanza for 2017.

    Nollaig Chridheil agus Bliadhna Mhath Ùr.

  171. heedtracker says:

    Who’s the daddy Paula ?

    Similar questions asked in Bethlehem 2000 years or so ago.

    Scotland next.
    http://archive.is/n14vb

    Have a great day everyone!

  172. scottieDog says:

    Merry Christmas fellow insurgents.. 😉

  173. Legerwood says:

    Merry Christmas to everyone

  174. defo says:

    And similar miracles would be required Heedtracker!

    Imagine the campaigning boost…
    When a suitably reasonable time has passed, and it becomes apparent to all that a hard brexit is on the cards, we have been told to shut up and let the big boys and girls deal with it, and Indyref 2 is announced and we start touting for the rats leaving the sinking ship to relocate here.

    Much Schaden will be freuded. Even thinking about it now brings me out all GIRUYey.

  175. heedtracker says:

    Much Schaden will be freuded. Even thinking about it now brings me out all GIRUYey.”

    Seated here in my Santa hat, red lights, tinsel…London and south east is an extremely superheated and overheating economy. So pulling investment out of this region, up and across north to other regions, and countries, makes a lot of economic sense. Its also why our masters and betters down there are implacably opposed to any and all devo.

    Crash Gordo had a golden opportunity but did the exact opposite. Fast forward a UKOK decade or so and he’s now handing out food and blankets to the poorest kids, in Fife. He’s loaded though.

  176. Smallaxe says:

    Seasons Greetings, from Smallaxe and Family.Have a great day 🙂

    Peace, Love and Happiness to you ALL and Thank you for your kind wishes.

  177. Andy-B says:

    Nice one Chris.

    Merry Christmas to one and all. ?

  178. Happy Christmas to all Scottish patriots,

    the rest of you,

    I hope your roast tatties are soggy.

  179. Fairliered says:

    Happy Christmas to Stuart and all wingers. Peace and goodwill to all.

  180. jacksg says:

    Hi wingers,

    Don’t post very often but love reading the articles and all your comments.

    Nollaig Chridheil to all of you keep up the good work!

  181. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    To all Wingers who don’t dip a toe into ‘off-topic’, I’ll wish you a Merry Christmas here. Merry Christmas!

    And a special “Merry Christmas!” to all the vile lurkers who keep a watching brief.

    And an even more special “Merry Christmas!” to Rev Stu and all his team of contributors!

  182. yesindyref2 says:

    Happy Christmas to all, and specially to those offshore, out of the country, doing shifts and even worse double shifts. But most especially of all, to those called out even on Christmas Eve to fix problems with power, gas, water – or communications like keeping TV going to homes, perhaps on islands, and with no ferries on Christmas Day, stranded on an island like Mull, for instance, away from their family.

    I might know of one in that last category!

    So if you see someone in their van, go hug a strandee and wish them Happy Christmas.

  183. defo says:

    Heed
    ‘Tis the season of goodwill to all (wo)men *

    * except the likes of brass neck Broon.
    It would take hours making the exceptions list actually, so I’ve made do with a top 10 pop pickers.

    In at 10, Jackie B. With her coupon that no sane person would tire of skelping.

    At 9, Fluffy Mundell. He of the smeg storing beard.

    Rising from the depths of a sick mind at 8, Ali Carmichael. For re-defining the term ‘lower than a snakes belly’.

    At 7, the egg man. General bawbaggery, and tractorous bastard.

    At 6, Another Jackie (give her the) Bird. Can’t you just feel her contempt for Scotland oozing out ?

    Into the top 5, it’s Call (out) Kaye Adams. How very dare she, every fucking weekday.

    Sinking fast as the Belgrano at 4, my only posthumous entry. Snatcher. Millions suffered, so her sponsors didn’t have to.

    At 3, a group award to our yoon bloggers. You know who you are, but a spesh shout out to Dunky, and the pet shop boy.

    Vying for the top spot (as per usual), Yer man of the people (as in no fucker likes him) G. Brown ex politico.

    At 1. Who else could fill the top spot other than our Fettes educated war criminal in chief, Lady Gaga’s greatest achievement, a man without honour or humility, I give you Anthony Charles Lynton Blair.

    Merry christmas.

  184. Cuilean says:

    My 20 yr old had lots of pressies this morning but what brought actual tears and hugs was the beautiful hand tooled leather Iscot Scottish passport cover. ‘This means more than everything to me’ I was informed, ‘More than everything else’.

    Scotland’s youngsters, will save us from Scotland’s (mainly) feart and bigoted and selfish and lied to; oldsters.

    Thank you too, Stu, from the bottom of my heart, for wading through the MSM shite, week in, week out and bringing us truth. You have kept me sane this past 2 years.

    Just get through the next 12 months (if mad Trump lets is)! & roll on 2018, I say, and Indy2, which we will win this time.

    Oh and read the Gibraltar News online to see just what a mess lies in store for May in 2017.

  185. Les Wilson says:

    Scot Finlayson says:
    25 December, 2016 at 10:28 am
    “Happy Christmas to all Scottish patriots,

    the rest of you,

    I hope your roast tatties are soggy.”

    That is real nasty, pure cybernatish!Gave me a wee laugh this morning.

  186. Graf Midgehunter says:

    Merry Xmas to everyone,, 🙂

    Frohe Weihnachten.

  187. Jack Murphy says:

    A very Merry Christmas to all readers and posters plus of course Wings.
    All the very best.

    PS. A wee bit of info about the NHS in England:

    “Number of urgent operations cancelled in England hits record high.
    The number of urgent operations cancelled by the NHS hit record numbers in November.

    Figures from NHS England show 446 urgent operations were cancelled during the month, almost double the level from the same period last year.”

    http://tinyurl.com/hk3vcmu

  188. heedtracker says:

    defo says:
    25 December, 2016 at 11:06 am
    Heed
    ‘Tis the season of goodwill to all (wo)men *

    Saw a Daily Record full page Santa Gordo Xmas bumper special last week, he was handing out food to 800 children or families, who can’t afford to buy any food in Santa Gordo’s Kirkaldy. No money for food is a pretty horrifying way to live, in a non country that floats on oil and gas. Guess who Santa Gordo blames/implies is responsible? Santa Gordo’s gone back up to the north pole today as he’s very tired from all his hard work, with his special Xmas elf, Crichton Torquil . Its in the DR.

  189. stewartb says:

    So its not just me that can’t have any day away from Wings!! I’m in very good company! Best wishes to all.

  190. People Carrier says:

    Blythe Yule and Guid Hogmanay tae a’.

    I think it is a cast iron guarantee that I am going to get angry in 2017. I am very hopeful that it will turn into action in support of our country. Always peaceful of course?! I think I’ve had enough of the BBC et al. Best wishes to all wingers, and thank you Stu, seriously, I don’t know what I’d do without all the analysis and information – probably just fume at my inability to articulate my displeasure in a coherent manner. Many thanks.

  191. People Carrier says:

    That shouldn’t have been a question mark btw, it was a saintly mojo!!!!!! Appears to have gone wrong!!! Always peaceful of course.

  192. People Carrier says:

    Apologies, that wasn’t a question mark, it was a saintly mojo obviously gone wrong!!!!! Always peaceful!

  193. Dorothy Devine says:

    Ok – couldn’t stay away – turkeys in the oven , tatties are boiling , sprouts and carrots for colour peeled , stuffing balls rolled , lobster looking sad and ready to eat – so , Merry Christmas everyone ( those eating soggy roasters exempted!)

  194. Proud Cybernat says:

    Merry Christmas everyone.

    And well done the Rev Stu. Where would we be without you?

    Saw some folks over on the previous thread looking for some more BBC MISREPORTING SCOTLAND stickies. I still have much of the original batch the printer botched (there’s no split in the paper so it’s difficult to peel the back off the label). He allowed us to keep them though. They are difficult to peel but doable with patience. If anyone would like some to distribute drop an email to:

    peepthebeeb [@] gmail [dot] com (nae spaces or square brackets). Let me know how many you’d like and where to send them. I’ll get them to you asap.

    In the New Year I will be starting another wee peepthebeeb campaign to get thousands of car stickers made with the slogan BBC Misreporting Scotland.

    Merry Crimbo BBC ya bams.

    Oh, and well done Maria F on that post yesterday (just read it) in response to the SD troll. What an absolute belter of a post. Sooperb!!

  195. Bob Mack says:

    Have a great day fellow Wingers. In my book you all deserve nothing but the best.
    An absolute pleasure to be involved with such an inspiring site.

    Merry Xmas to you all xx

  196. ronnie anderson says:

    Ave nae turkey
    ave nae goose
    but freinds aplenty
    in this fraternity
    and the Wings Hoose.

    Seasons Greeting to All Wingers and Lurkers/Lurchers

    Big HUGS to ALL.

  197. bugsbunny says:

    Merry Christmas Everybody.

    I bet the Royal Family switch off the Telly just before 3, saying, “We’re not listening to this”. “It’s the same pish every year”. Mmmm Maybe not? Maybre it’s only my household, or is that a common theme in all wingers house about 2.59pm every Christmas Day? lol.

    Well I’m switching on Channel 4 at 2.20pm to watch, It’s a Wonderful Life. Christmas would not be the same without it.

    To Paul Nuttal, I say, “Bah Humbug”. Give up politics and get back to comedy. You were a lot more funnier and less offensive as Edward Elizabeth Hitler alomg with Rik Mayall in Bottom.

  198. Robert Peffers says:

    @heedtracker says: 25 December, 2016 at 9:39 am:

    “Scotland next.
    http://archive.is/n14vb
    Have a great day everyone!”

    On that subject, heedtracker, Here is some of the news from where they are :-

    “A new “ring of steel” costing £5m has been proposed to protect the skyscrapers in London’s “Square Mile” from terrorist attack”.

    I wonder who will be paying for that little lot? (Well actually I think I already know the answer).

    “Her Majesty will not be attending a church service at Sandringham as she has a heavy cold. She will, though be all right for the Christmas festivities with the other Royals”.

    Word has it she is not one to miss a good piss up.

    “Prince Charles warns about religious persecution.”

    Charles is a Protestant Royal who is next in line to a throne that is banned not only to Roman Catholics but to anyone with any kind of connection to RCs, Bloody royal hypocrite.

    “A number of properties in SW & W London are without water because a pump has broken down”.

    The BBC declares it a national disaster.

    “The Archbishop of Canterbury says the power of God can chase away, “The Fear of Terror”, and, “The economies of despair”.

    Yes and it is a damned site cheaper than the new nuclear powered and nuclear weaponed submarines so beloved of the UK government and the Holyrood Yoons.

    There isn’t any significant news from where you are –

    Oh! except that Scotland is braced for a second storm wave named, “ Storm Conor and I’ll bet it will leave a good many more households without services than that broken down London water pump.

    You just have to laugh at the attitude that is so evident in the state broadcaster’s propaganda.

  199. Gary45% says:

    Merry Christmas wingers, the sprouts have been cooking since October, nae live telly, one bottle of wine arsed already. BLISS
    Special big Highland hugs to Mr and Mrs Smallaxe.

  200. Bill McLean says:

    Brian Doonthetoon at 1047. With respect the lurkers who keep a watching brief aren’t vile – they are deluded like I used to be. I believed in the greatness of Britannia, her decency, fair-mindedness, peace-seeking missionary brief, concern for the disadvantaged and all the other crap that London regurgitates daily to fool the world, people in this island and the deluded like I was. Think of it all as their comfort blanket and then you can feel some sympathy for them – but not too much. Best and peace for you and yours for now and ever!

  201. McTurk says:

    Have yourselves a merry little brexit
    May will spread some fear
    Dont tell Nigel, A50 date may not appear! Pound will tank but numb yourselves on gin and beer

    Show them Poles its time for them to beat it. Take their plumbing gear
    Our own youth can unblock toilets, make them clear! Local scum get off your idle scrounging rear

    Shave your heads, close ranks on new arrivals. Boots and bovva gear. Go suppress the muslim, paddy and faqir!
    Have yourselves a britnat mosley fascist cheer

    Ignore Scotland’s democratic mandate. Twist and turn and veer. Auntie’s mantra will quash any indy fear! Britannia’s remaining colonial possession will pay dear

  202. Conan the Librarian™ says:

    While waiting for the roasties, I looked at BBC news online. What was above 92 people dead? Queenie has a cold.

    I really detest the BBC and all their works.

  203. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Hi Bill McLean.

    The reason I used the term “vile lurkers” was in honour of a couple of ladies who have visited the Wings stall at various rallies over the past year.

    They always ask if we have the “Vile Lurker” badges yet. They say they don’t post but read WOS every day – and they’re certainly not deluded! We will have badges for them next rally Pete and I attend.

    So, Merry Christmas to you, ladies!

  204. Tam Jardine says:

    Merry Christmas to all on Wings and in particular to any Wingers or readers who are working, ill or alone at Christmas.

    Smallaxe- guid to see you posting again. Peace and goodwill my friend… hope you are okay

    Turkey is in the oven, everything prepped that can be so in hand. And now to the wine x

  205. Valerie says:

    Peace and goodwill to all Wingers.

    Lousy weather even in the Central belt, but managed to stay upright walking the dog this morning.

    So much talk of sick Betty, so here is how RTE report her annual address. Makes me proud of my Irish blood.

    https://twitter.com/MackieJonathan/status/812983020437274624

  206. Dr Jim says:

    @Valerie: Makes me proud of my Irish blood!

    And you’ve every right to be, I’m sitting watching Irish TV right now showing “The Marys”
    The Irish showing the rest of us how to have pride in your young people from local areas and showing their achievements in education arts and their talents as well as smashing looking down to earth girls, and all on their own TV station representing all the parts of Ireland

    There’s just nothing not to like

  207. Bill says:

    Just think, you’ve been trolled by an Englsh Tory (Sayers) and a Loyalist (Bryan Galloway – aka The Spanner) since 2012, merry Christmas folks.

  208. Giving Goose says:

    Re Conan

    Queenie will be ok. They’ll have some German version of a toddy passed down through the family. Either that or some warmed Ouzo.

    And while she’s quaffing, her majesties government are putting together plans to distance good old blighty from those vile foreigners in Europe.

    “Irony” doesn’t feature in the vocabulary of Westminster or the Windsors (ex Saxe-Coburg-Gotha).

  209. vlad (not that one) says:

    Have a good Christmas, all of you there, and all the best for the year ahead.

    If things get you down, think of Bruce’s spider.

    And may nae moose leave your gurnal with a tear in his ee.

  210. vlad (not that one) says:

    Have a good Christmas, all of you there, and all the best for the year ahead.

    If things get you down, think of Bruce’s spider.

    And may nae moose leave your girnal with a tear in his ee.

  211. I was 15 years in Nigeria. It has 36 states all about the same size in population or bigger than Scotland. Every state has its own government funded television station
    Every state has its own government funded television station
    Every state has its own government funded television station
    Each state parliament controls the television stations

    I am beyond putting up with turning on my TV at breakfast and putting up with BBC TV from a different country which has nothing whatever to do with me, or my community or my country.
    When we had BBC Scotland radio as our main source it actually was BBC Scotland radio.

    While I’m ranting when are we getting our New Year back? When I was young Christmas was when we went to church for a service about charity and love and the kids got some presents. But we went to work and we got our newspapers and we got ready for the ridiculous very Scottish over celebration at New Year.

    The town is a wasteland today and closed down. The huge commercialising of Christmas has left sections of our community broke and in debt for months. When I had a pub and then a hotel I opened on Christmas day. By mid afternoon folk want to go out (if only to avoid the royal bumcast). More importantly there is in our communities many people who have very few and very little and whose whole social life and interaction with the rest of the community is in the local hostelry. We were always mobbed.
    It is time we gave a thought to what Christmas might better be.
    Rant over

  212. Dan Huil says:

    @Valerie 3:03pm

    Oh to be free on a fine republican day!

  213. Thepnr says:

    Enjoy the festive break, hope you all have a good one.

  214. Rock says:

    Don’t overindulge.

    Scotland remains a colony after more than 300 years.

  215. Fran says:

    Merry Christmas Wingers!

  216. What Dave Hill said – absolutely

  217. Lanarkist says:

    Hoping everyone having a snoozy boozy Yule.

    Merry Christmas one and all!

  218. Paula Rose says:

    Rock Honey – here’s wishing that you overindulge on being nice xx

  219. David MacGille-Mhuire says:

    Dave McEwan Hill
    Agreed.

    No rant. Bang on the money.

  220. John H. says:

    “Scotland remains a colony after more than 300 years.”

    Well you got that right Rock, but more and more people are having their eyes opened. Hopefully it won’t be too long now. Have a jolly Christmas.

  221. heedtracker says:

    Have a very UKIP Faragemas everyone. To be fair, a rich ex City bankster pontificating about poverty, from his mansion house, in a strange costume, is pretty ghastly. But that’s not the Farage issue, at a guess.

    Nigel FarageVerified account
    ?@Nigel_Farage
    Merry Christmas. Ignore all negative messages from the Archbishop of Canterbury and have a great day!
    RETWEETS
    2,446
    LIKES
    6,920

    3:15 AM – 25 Dec 2016

  222. heedtracker says:

    Graun Xmas royals groveling, but this certainly leaves me out as I am not a Briton, although, Andy Murray is pretty inspiring.

    “Queen uses Christmas message to urge Britons to ‘take a deep breath’
    Monarch makes no reference to Brexit vote but refers to people ‘facing a challenge’ and the inspiration provided by Team GB”

  223. heedtracker says:

    From the UKIP Christmas cracker collection. Its a UKIPer Xmas puzzle.

    Douglas Carswell MP Retweeted
    Paul Embery ?@PaulEmbery 40m40 minutes ago
    Every Xmas message from the great and good is laced with insinuation about how we are now a more intolerant society. They still don’t get it

  224. heedtracker says:

    Which best political blog on the planet, is much more popular than this proud as punch toryboy, who’s never off planet toryboy BBC tv, radio and every newspaper out there, either?

    John Redwood Retweeted
    Feedspot Blog ?@feedspotblog Dec 22
    Congrats @johnredwood Your blog is selected as one of the Top 25 UK Political Blogs on web by @_feedspot

    http://blog.feedspot.com/uk_political_blogs/

  225. North Chiel says:

    Yes agree entirely with Dave Mcewan Hill @ 0407pm.
    New Years Day was always the premier holiday in Scotland.
    Christmas was for the kids and rightly so , however has become totally
    over commercialised these days . The hype from the propaganda channel has
    become insufferable of late.
    Our Scottish culture and traditions marginalised by the ” Great British Neoliberal Rip off” .
    How I wish for the days of our neighbourly Social democratic Scotland where
    money was for spending and not ” for worshipping ” , and ” everybody was working class ” in our country whether they were doctors , teachers ,bin men or coal men , bakers or butchers,All these people were essential and respected in our community.
    ” Class didn’t really exist” . Everyone ” worth their salt”. Unlike our near neighbours where
    ” class and social status is everything”.

  226. frogesque says:

    Best wishes to all!

    Spending Christmas away from all the laws, in laws, outlaws, outcasts and drunken plastercasts. Holiday cottage overlooking the sea. More than enough for our needs and the dog thinks he’s gone to heaven with all the country walks and runs on the local beaches.

    The independent life, all we need is our own wee independent Country. However you are spending your Christmas, alone or working or with loved ones remember we are a family and together we can achieve great things.

    So raise a glass of your fancy and look to the future, 2017 and beyond. Not to our independence, because that is just one wee step, but the rightful reinstatement of our Nation amongst equals.

    Damn! This Proseco is good stuff, slainte!

  227. Socrates MacSporran says:

    Dave McEwan Hill @ 4.07pm certainly hit the spot for a few of us older Wingers.

    Taking the Scottish Hogmanay and New Year holiday off us and forcing us down the road of Anglified “Christmas is everything” has been one of UKOK’s most-successful schemes.

    I can recall working Christmas Day in my first job, over 50-years ago, then, gradually, the Ne’erday celebrations were side-tracked, we had to join in with England and celebrate Christmas – or the English idea of Christmas, which, let’s face it, owes a lot ot old Prince Albert and the House of Sax Coburg-Gotha.

    Let’s hope, once we break free from the English yoke, we can reclaim some auld Scots customs, from the days when we were the last Barbarians in Europe.

  228. Conan the Librarian™ says:

    Never watched, but apparently Queenie said to her loyal sycophants “take a deep breath”

    They’re going to need scuba gear hen…

  229. John H. says:

    “Prince Albert and the House of Sax Coburg-Gotha.”

    I heard some snooty woman on the radio the other day talking about the Queen and family celebrating christmas in their usual style. “It’s the Danish tradition” says she. Surely it’s German says the presenter. “Oh, that too”.

  230. heedtracker says:

    Cut n pasted, Scottish Christmas night story and a good read. Posted on Facebook. First time in 400 years, the border was closed, to keep Scotland’s Stone of Destiny in England.

    Jean Pierre Durand shared a link.

    On Christmas Day 1950, four Scottish nationalists Ian Hamilton, Gavin Vernon, Kay Matheson and Alan Stuart removed the Stone of Scone from Westminster Abbey in London and took the Stone back to Scotland. The nationalists were members of the Scottish Covenant Association, a group that supported home rule (decentralization) for Scotland.

    To understand the implications of the raid, one must understand the political landscape in the United Kingdom just after the end of the Second World War. The United Kingdom was a unified nation and even in an era of post-war austerity, devolution was not on the political agenda. At the time, the Scottish National Party had 0.7% of the vote, the Labour Party had withdrawn its commitment to devolution, and the Conservative Party was at the high point of its popularity in Scotland. The raid was completely unexpected and gave the cause of Scottish devolution and nationalism a brief sense of prominence in the public conscience throughout the United Kingdom and beyond.

    The nationalists became notorious for the daring heist and in Scotland they achieved nigh-on hero status, while in contrast the English were somewhat bewildered.The heist and the nationalists became synonymous with the devolution and nationalist political movements in Scotland from 1950 onwards.

    Over time the incident encouraged a belief in change, throwing open to scrutiny the Union, which had existed since 1707. For most Scots the incident was an inspirational event, both at the time and for generations to come. Long before the Stone was officially returned to Scotland in 1996 and the Scottish people voted for devolution in 1997, the removal of the Stone of Scone in 1950 contributed to those events.

    The Stone of Scone, the ancient Stone upon which Scottish monarchs had been crowned, was taken from Scone near Perth, Scotland by King Edward I of England (Longshanks) in 1296 during the Scottish Wars of Independence as a spoil of war, kept in Westminster Abbey in London and fitted into King Edward’s Chair. Subsequent English and then British monarchs were crowned sitting upon the chair and Stone. At the time, the Stone was viewed as a symbol of Scottish nationhood; by removing the Stone to London, Edward I was declaring himself “King of the Scots”.

    In 1950, Ian Hamilton, a student at the University of Glasgow, approached Gavin Vernon with a plan to remove the Stone of Scone from Westminster Abbey in London and return it to Scotland. The plan was funded by a Glasgow businessman, Robert Gray, who was a councillor on the Glasgow Corporation. Vernon agreed to participate in the plan along with Kay Matheson and Alan Stuart who were also
    students in Glasgow.

    In December 1950, a few days before Christmas, the four students from Glasgow drove to London in two Ford Anglias, a journey which took them eighteen hours. On arrival in London they had a brief meeting at Lyons Corner House and decided to make an immediate attempt at removing the Stone from the Abbey. Later that day Ian Hamilton hid under a trolley in the Abbey, but was caught by a nightwatchman after the Abbey doors had been closed, briefly
    questioned, and then let go.

    The following day Vernon and Stuart returned to Westminster Abbey and learned some information on the watchmen’s shifts. In the middle of that night, the three men entered a works yard and gained entrance into Poet’s Corner. Reaching the Chapel containing the tomb of Edward I and King Edward’s Chair, they pulled down the barrier. On removing the Stone from under the Chair, it crashed to the floor and broke into two piecesThe three men, using Hamilton’s coat, dragged the larger piece down the high altar steps, then Hamilton took the smaller piece to one of the cars waiting outside.
    Ian Hamilton placed the small piece of Stone in the boot of the car and got into the passenger seat. As he did this, Kay Matheson noticed a policeman in the gaslight; Hamilton and Matheson immediately fell into a lovers’ clinch. The policeman stopped and the three proceeded to have a conversation even though it was 5 A.M. Having shared some jokes and a cigarette Matheson and Hamilton drove off to Victoria, Hamilton getting out on the way to walk back to the Abbey.

    On his arrival there was no sign of Vernon and Stuart, so he proceeded to drag the large piece of stone to the car himself. As he was driving away he saw Vernon and Stuart walking towards him.
    The stone was so heavy that the springs on the car were sagging, so Vernon, fearing the alarm had been raised, made his way to Rugby, Warwickshire. Hamilton and Stuart drove to Kent, hid the large piece of stone in a field and made their way back to Scotland. Matheson left her car, containing the small piece of the Stone, with a friend in the Midlands, and like Vernon made her way back to Scotland by train. On discovering that the Stone was missing, the authorities closed the border between Scotland and England for the first time in four hundred years.

    A fortnight later Hamilton and some friends including John Jossely (English but Scottish nationalist) recovered the two pieces of stone and brought them to Glasgow. They hired a stonemason, Baillie Robert Gray, to mend the Stone. Gray placed a brass rod inside the Stone containing a piece of paper. To this day, nobody knows what was written on the piece of paper.

    In April 1951 the police received a tip-off and the Stone was found on the site of the High Altar at Arbroath Abbey where in 1320 the assertion of Scottish nationhood was made in the Declaration of Arbroath.

  231. Robert Peffers says:

    @Socrates MacSporran says: 25 December, 2016 at 7:14 pm:

    ” … let’s face it, owes a lot ot old Prince Albert and the House of Sax Coburg-Gotha.
    Let’s hope, once we break free from the English yoke, we can reclaim some auld Scots customs, from the days when we were the last Barbarians in Europe.”

    Whit! I just posted the other day a quote from Voltaire that went like this: –

    The Scottish Enlightenment was the conjunction of minds, ideas, and publications in Scotland during the second part of the 18th century but it extended several decades on either side of that period.

    Contemporaries throughout the World claimed that Edinburgh was a “hotbed of genius.”

    Voltaire, in 1762, wrote, “today it is from Scotland that we get rules of taste in all the arts, from epic poetry to gardening.”

    He also wrote, “We look to Scotland for all our ideas of civilisation.”

    Benjamin Franklin described the mood of Edinburgh in his Autobiography (1794):- “Persons of good Sense…seldom fall into [disputation], except Lawyers, University Men, and Men of all Sorts that have been bred at Edinburgh.”

    When I was a schoolboy in Edinburgh, Scotland still led the World in medical science. A lead gained thanks to Burke & Hare : –

    Burke and Hare were grave robbers and murders. There were 16 murders committed over ten months in 1828 in Edinburgh.

    The killings were by William Burke and William Hare, who sold the corpses to Doctor Robert Knox for dissection at his anatomy lectures.

    In the 1950s we had the greatest ever brain surgeon in Norman Dott and when the late King needed an lung cancer operation in 1951 my late mother was part of the team of the Edinburgh surgeon, Slessor.

    Who was one of five Surgeons called into Buck House to perform the operation on the King. Mind you the King died in 1952, but these doctors were the World’s finest.

  232. Hector says:

    Merry Xmas Wingers. Sorry if this is o/t but felt this experience worth sharing. Recently spent some time working in the Shetlands. Beautiful, if wild environment, met many smart, intelligent, warm and welcoming people who are pretty hardy and tenacious and great sense of humour. Part of the reason I went there was because I was curious about the lack of overwhelming support for Independence in 2014 and even more curious about the reelection of Mr Carmichael and Mr Scott?

    Well, quelle suprise……not one person I spoke to had heard if Wings Over Scotland….no-one I spoke to knew anything about the oil n gas discoveries at Claire Ridge..or that they were so substantial and important enough for Prime Minister David Cameron to pay a personal visit prior to the referendum. No-one had knowledge of Hurricane Energy and the Lancaster and Lincoln fields discoveries and, of course, no-one had heard if the McCrone Report!

    I found the people I spoke with were interested and open to discussing these issues. They had no firm allegiance to the Lib Dems but had an affection for their SNP candidate but thought he was just “too old” and not in. Good health. In the absence of being informed of the political and strategic issues relating to Shetland, they voted for the same old personalities! Carmichael and Scott .

    Yes Scotland Indyref2…..Shetlanders need to know they are an important and valued part of our country …getting them a decent ferry service would be a good start …..perhaps the next Wings night should be in Shetland?

  233. heedtracker says:

    Hector, its not the Shetlands. Its Shetland and the Shetland Isles. Bit of Christmas pedantry there:D

  234. dunx says:

    @ heedtracker at 9.56 pm
    Apologies if you already know this,( others may not)
    The story is dramatised below, starring Kathleen MacInnes as Kay Matheson.
    Worth it alone just to hear Kathleen Macinness sing “Eilean A’ Cheo”(unaccompanied) about 25/26 mins into the film.
    And ‘Oran na Chloiche’.(song of the stone).
    As Sorley MacLean said (and I paraphrase) ‘…We were not allowed to write our own history, but the Gaels could sing it..!’
    It is worth knowing what these songs mean and what they are really about.
    “An Ceasneachadh/the interrogation/questioning”

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HNJgudcRi64

  235. Hector says:

    Absolutely, Heedtracker….the most beautiful and spectacular Shetland and the Shetland Islands. Nods head and curtsies!

  236. Still Positive. says:

    FFS George Michael gone too at 53. This has been a hellish year.

  237. Cactus says:

    Oh fuck.. 5 and a bit days to go now ..

    Who’s left now to pass GM?

    T’all comes to pass!

    Scotland NOW!
    X.

    53

  238. Cactus says:

    George Michael fans..

    TURN IT UP!

    MC X.

  239. galamcennalath says:

    More Brexit gloom …

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/25/world/europe/eu-medicines-agency-britain-brexit.html

    …. Scotland must get out of this mess!

  240. Cactus says:

    Last Christmas I gave you my h..

    Whit?

    Roll on 2017 bitches!

  241. Brian Doonthetoon says:

    Hi heedtracker.

    Re: the stone of destiny. My Dad was the Prudential agent for the southern Lochee area in the 50s and early 60s and was pally with the Rev Nimmo (see links below) and related to me the story of the stone being kept in St Columba’s Church in Dundee.

    http://www.scotsman.com/heritage/people-places/is-the-stone-of-destiny-a-fake-1-4082595

    The following quote is from this link:-
    http://www.scottishknightstemplar.org/faq.html

    “There is a group of Scottish Templars who have “Bailey Gray’s” Fake Stone of Destiny that used to be in his Shop window. (Bailey Gray was the stonemason who hid, and repaired, the Westminister stone when it was stolen by Scottish Nationalists in the 1950s. Bailey used the fake in the shop window as a publicity stunt).

    Once the Westminister Stone was recovered the fake dissappeared but re-appeared in Parliament Sq in Edinburgh in 1972. The Rev John Nimmo took ownership of the stone until his Dundee Lochee Church closed and then the stone was moved to a Scottish Knight Templar Church at Dull, Aberfeldy.

    On the sale of this Church the fake stone was moved around the country and its current whereabouts are unknown. The Westminister stone was moved to Scotland in 1996 and by Historic Scotland’s own admittance, “The left foot wear on one side of the stone appears to reflect its use as a step in a cylindrical staircase!” Historians will tell you that the real stone of Scone was probably black in colour. This stone has never been found!”
    ————————————————–

    Hi Robert Peffers.

    RE: Norman Dott. My Mum was born in 1926 with Spina Bifida and was operated on whilst days old. In the 1940s, she contracted Meningitis and was operated on by Professor Dott. She was told that it was unlikely she would be able to have children.

    My wee brother, wee sister and me were all planned. Our birthdays are all in April. The family joke was that we were the results of Mum and Dad getting amorous during the Dundee holiday fortnight.

    There are 4 years between me and my wee brother; 5 years between him and my wee sister. We only found out years later that the delays were on medical advice.

    A hell of a wummun, meh Mum…

  242. Cactus says:

    And,
    X.

    You know what it means.

  243. Cactus says:

    Do they know it’s Xmas time at all..?

  244. Cactus says:

    Rick Parfitt, George Michael.. deed.

    Who is still alive from the original line up readers.. yer Band Aid!

    Hello box-it up all day!

  245. Cactus says:

    Born to be wild!

    Never forget zat bonnie Scotland folkx!

    Dig it X!

    Exclamation mark!

  246. Cactus says:

    May aye say aye..

    Scotland..

    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

    You’re way cool.
    X.

  247. Cactus says:

    Scotland!!!

    That is all.

    Going to be amazing when we’re all talking back about dis when we are…..

    X.

  248. Cactus says:

    Love is all and everything.

  249. Meg merrilees says:

    Cactus had to let you know you’re not the only person still awake.

    New Year coming and with it Scotland’s destiny is becoming clearer by the day. We are the lucky generation.

    YES 2017, Indy ref 2 here we come.

    Gaun yersel Cactus!

  250. Cactus says:

    Love all.. Yes!

    Not one person excluded.

    Come back to me 21st century Scotland..
    X.

  251. Cactus says:

    Cheers Meg..

    You’re beautiful and bonnie as always 🙂

    Our SCOTLAND!!!
    X.

  252. Cactus says:

    Generation X..

    Dat’s what day say..

  253. Thepnr says:

    @Cactus

    We rely on you too keep the flag flying in the sma hours when the rest have went to sleep. Keep flying the flag, nice one my friend.

  254. Cactus says:

    Cheers good buddy Thepnr..

    Been many a premonition..

    Flying Scotland’s flag in the wee hours..

    SOMEBUDDIES GOTTA DO IT!
    X.

  255. Cactus says:

    Love..

    Zat is all.
    X.

  256. Cactus says:

    Happy yer boxin’ day..

    Our free..

  257. Socrates MacSporran says:

    Apologies, since I apear to have offended the excellent Mr Peffers with my reference to the Scots being: “the last Barbarians in Europe”.

    Cannot recall where I saw that one, but, it was lang suyne. My meansing in using it is, I want the rest ot fear us, to fear what we might do if offended. We have to stand up for ourselves.

    Re the death of George Michael and the speculation as to – who’s going to be next.

    Given the massive quantities of drink and drugs he has apparently ingested in his long life, I feel Keith Richards is aliving breathing phenomenon, and I pray that we have him around for a good few years still to come.

  258. Cactus says:

    @george michael

    Whit happened tae ye..

    Too soon..

    Like all the other beautiful things of this bonnie place!

    Scotland is ours.

    You know.
    X.

  259. Cactus says:

    2016..

    That’ll be that.

    But, 2017 coming up real soon..

    Happy birthday Jesus.

    8lbs.. 6ounces, allegedly!
    X.

  260. Cactus says:

    Hawl.. awl ye need is love.. JL & Smallaxe called it already..

    Somebody’s gotta do it..

    Love, love, love..

    Ask Bill Hicks.. he knows.
    X.

  261. Cactus says:

    We are Scotland, nothing else matters..

    Love your Scotland. X.

  262. Cactus says:

    Cheers Boxing Day to yah!

    Who’s packing..?
    X.

  263. Cactus says:

    Signing off xmas..

    Cheers CameronB.. He’s a good guy 😉

  264. Cactus says:

    Am back babes..

    I lost my phone just there..

    Phoned all around, Glasgow..

    Turned out it was charging..

    It’s good to be back..

    Stil can’t believe George Michael.. he gone.

  265. Robert Louis says:

    George Michael too, FFS. 2017 can only be better, can’t it?

  266. uno mas says:

    @Socrates MacSporran 2.47am

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ5-_qNNibI

    Enjoy!

  267. Famous15 says:

    Brexit latest.

    Trump aide reveals that they will use the insanity of Brexit to steal UK trade.

    Donald Trump has always preached “Never give a sucker an even break” so he and his advisor Farage have really knocked it off.

    Pity we did not all heed the very wise “Mad” Alex Salmond and get Scotland out of this madness and resume as an independent state.

  268. heedtracker says:

    dunx, Brian Doonthetoon, fascinating stuff. It is interesting that our neighbours felt such a symbolic need to actually have their royals sit on a stone from their Scotland region. BetterTogether, under billionaire’s backside.

  269. Thepnr says:

    @BDTT

    Two great stories there Brian. Thanks for sharing, that’s one of the kinda things that keeps me coming back to Wings.

  270. Meg merrilees says:

    Cactus,

    Make sure you have a big glass of water when you waken up the day!

    Sorry, I should have kept you company for a bit last night but I got sidetracked (tidying away turkey etc) after texting you @12.51 and didnae log back on. Seems you had a good evening tho…

    Happy Boxing’ Day to you and yours.

  271. Fred says:

    After looting the abbeys of Coupar & Scone Edward I stole what was possibly the lid off the Scone abbot’s shiter, a block of sandstone of local origin.

    Festive Greetings!

  272. Lenny Hartley says:

    I remember the mail being delivered on Christmas Day, I got a pressed tin 2 story garage (a merchant seaman in the street had brought it from Hong Kong but I thought it was from Santa) anyways on xmas morning was playing with it and the postman comes into the living room having had a half at every house he delivered mail too, tripped over the carpet, did a triple salchow followed by a somersault over the armchair I was playing behind and landed on and flattened my garage!!
    Christmas was never the same again 🙂

  273. Thepnr says:

    @Lenny Hartley

    That is class. Cheers!

  274. Fred says:

    @ Lenny Hartley, well said Tiny Tim!



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