Wings Over Scotland

Sarah Fanet , (is that surname French or just a spelling mistake?) just sums it up perfectly about not serving the people and pushing their own agenda. I don’t give a flying fuck about what they want, I want independance , an income and a roof over my head.
Anyway Stu, I thought it was an article about Sparks.

The SNP have morphed into something I cannot recognise.

I will not, or cannot have anything to do with them.

Please, please, please someone give me something I can vote for.

WM win this one game set and match.

We shouldn’t be afraid to call out these people and stand up for what is right. What a ridiculous situation the SNP have created for themselves. If a feminist who stands up for women’s right to privacy tries to get selected, the NEC gets involved in a coup. Yet men can run in all women shortlists.

Disgusting. If someone told me about this ten years ago I would have thought they were taking the piss but nobody is laughing now. Eventually the public are going to have a backlash against this stuff and it won’t be pretty. And it won’t just be the independence movement that people are turned off of, but this among other things is going to drive voters to the right.

In the meantime we need to call out injustices such as this and not be afraid of the abuse we receive for it. Keep fighting the good fight smStu.

The worst thing about these so called females.

Is their breathtaking arrogance , that we are not allowed to question their biological sex. They can be very aggressive , judging by the twitter wars with them.

As John Candy said:” Hostile & Aggressive , that’s borderline psychopath”.

As a woman (not a ‘Woo’-Man!) – I abhor all women shortlist BS!
It’s demeaning! It’s implication is that women are not capable of fighting and winning on merit. It’s a patronising head pat and shove to the front that the ‘less good’ kids get during the school christmas play!

Labours poisonous leech has jumped ship and is sucking the life out of SNP.
The folk at the forefront of the push for obliterating actual women should all have their own specialist MH unit! The mass delusion is unbelievable. And those who are now SO terrified of being labelled ‘ist’ or ‘phobic’ are piling on and ‘being supportive’ just so the poison won’t get turned on them!.

It’s absolute fkin NONSENSE!
The fact a party of government has allowed it to progress this far is unreal. Where are all the stalwarts of Indy?
Where are the foot soldiers of SNP? It’s time they stood up and took their party back.
Rot set in when they let ANY twat join and stand cos they needed the revenue and the publicity (maybe party went from ‘fringe’ to kaboom too fast to screen properly. But that’s NO excuse for the failure to act since.

The folk hurting the very small percentage of genuine transgender folk the most are the vicious, attention seeking, misogynistic, hateful, overindulged wee toddleresque clique that are connected to their ex MEP.

I suspect substances are heavily involved as well…but that’s just my take on it.

Time folk in the party all stood together and told them to stfu or form their own party and get votes solely on their platforms.

SNP has always been and should always be the INDEPENDENCE party.

Using terms like ‘people who menstruate’, ‘people with uteruses (uteri?)’, people with cervix (cervices?)’ are all exclusionary terms, excluding many natal women from the term ‘women’. After menopause when menstruation ceases, women do not cease to be women, hysterectomy, which can have severe detrimental psychological effects on natal women and their sense of identity, does not mean they are any less women, and it may be damaging to women thus affected. Similarly, removal of the cervix due to cervical cancer does not make a natal woman any less a woman.

I find it interesting that all the common attempts to distinguish real women from men pretending to be women are focussed solely on physical features and structures of young women, and are dismissive and exclusionary of older women. This seems to be yet another example of discrimination against women by a patriarchal society. As for the women with penises who insist that they menstruate, it reveals even more bias by them against women for the same reason – they only recognise young women as women and they accept the patriarchal stereotype of the term ‘women’.

Thank you Stu – this is the reason I resigned my SNP membership after the Aberdeen Conference as I was horrified at their behaviour. Booing Chris as he spoke to a Plan B motion, fisting pumping when Rhiannon beat Colette in the election and fawning all over Alyn Smith.
I will vote SNP 1 but my second vote goes to ISP.

MadCatWumman says:

“As a woman (not a ‘Woo’-Man!)”

Indeed so. The word ‘woman’ is originally womb-man.

Cutting off the male member and having plastic surgery around a remodelled scrotum, does not a woman make. It does not involve receiving the defining organ of womanhood – the womb. The nurturer of life.

It is an abomination and a parody of womanhood.

The SNP has gone mad.

Ahh but, they are so much more WOMANY than wot we are, or could ever hope to be.

I’m beginning to wonder if this is a trick to make sure they don’t win the election and don’t have to come good on going for another Independence referendum.

How is “Fanet” pronounced in french?

WoS has really let itself down here. Stu always preached the ‘headline is the lie’ but despite this, has managed to produce one of the funniest and most accurate headlines ever.

But it was a rotten movie.

Albert, that was the joke, im sure it must be Fanny, as it will be with a scientific T perhaps we should all challenge the (T)- trans agenda.

Been thinking this a while.

“ But the SNP’s dream outcome of this election would be to be a minority government again. Not only would they have an excuse for achieving nothing, but they could also blame everyone who’s criticised them.”

In essence a unionist party Masquerading in Indy clothing.

Stuart.

‘.. a constituency already plagued by the abominable horror of Rhiannon Spear trying to get selected.’
the Spear link directs back to this page (thankfully?)

Fanet and gaslighting come to mind for some reason.

Should it be not be Sarah Non Fanet?

Over 30 years ago, I was at a “night out”, for men who crossed dressed (don’t ask)
Heavily Pregnant with my first child, I was dressed in dungarees.

One of the cross dressers said “you must feel so un-feminine, sitting amongst all us women in our finery” this received nods of agreement and sympathy (for me) from his fellow transvestites. They truly believed that to be womanly and feminine, was as simple as putting on a dress and a pair of high heels…

Morgatron @ 12.33pm Apparently, Mr Fanet now has a fanny and is Mme Fanet.

I have nothing against someone like her, who has had the surgery, but, her candidature still raises the Rev’s question about all-female short lists.

Will these ‘fanets’ never go away.

However I have some sympathy with blokes who have had the operations. I assume it must smart a bit. Its just that you can’t tell who are intact and who aren’t.

Asking “Are you hiding a c*ck in your frock ?” would just be rude.

Still I would much rather have miss fanet than the horror spears.

Jason Leitch today said that the new restrictions would bring the infection rate down. Well we were told that about the measures that have been constantly introduced and changed over the past few months, none of them seem to have made any difference and we were also told when nicola shut down the hospitality sector, not that they will admit this of course. But these new measures are definitely going to do it!… This nonsense never ends.

I have just read blair paterson’s nonsense.

A great many furriners contribute and live in Scotland . They are welcome. As is Ms. Fanet. They should get to vote and stand as Scotland is their home.

I just don’t want transgenderwoowoo science-deniers in any positions of authority. I don’t really care where they are from.

Blair Paterson says:
22 October, 2020 at 12:55 pm
‘Nearly all these freaks who want to stand are foreign they do not belong here only true Scots born and bred here of Scottish parents should be allowed to stand to rule Scotland not interlopers go back to where their country and sort out its problems I for one do not want you here if I had my way I would deport the whole lot of you you contribute nothing but troble’

Im not sure where the line should be on this. I don’t want to devalue being Scottish but I don’t want to go full ‘Nazi’ either.

One thing I do know is that this would never happen the other way around. If we value Scotland as a nation then there has to be some sort of basic standard for influencing politics above simply being here.

IN their present state I cannot bring myself to support the SNP anymore. Once an activist helping to campaign, I never joined the party and I am thankful for that. They have lost sight of their mission.

I will not be voting SNP on my main vote as I have lost all faith in them under the current regime, but I will use the list vote for the ISP. I believe that my family will be doing the same, but I do not influence their vote.

Women only shortlists should not exist. They are positive discrimination hiding behind a veneer of good intentions, treating the symptoms not the disease. And of all the parties, the SNP have a very strong history of women working in the party: Annie Swan, May Thomson, Winnie Ewing, Margaret Ewing, Roseanna Cunningham, Margo MacDonald, Dorothy-Grace Elder, Fiona Hyslop, Tricia Marwick, Linda Fabiani, Kay Ullrich, Joan McAlpine, Maureen Watt and more.

The Rev is right to comment that Fanet (such an unfortunate name) and Wadhwa are very different cases. SF has made the life changing decision as an adult to put themself through this process and come out the other end. They moved to Lochaber to get away from the prejudice they were experiencing and has now lived there for several years. Other than the link to Out for Indy, what have they done to not be respected as a local candidate standing for their constituency? Is she any different from Sandra Macrae?

@Rev

“the SNP’s dream outcome of this election would be to be a minority government again. Not only would they have an excuse for achieving nothing, but they could also blame everyone who’s criticised them.”

This is why we’re on a tightrope. If I don’t vote SNP, they’ll still win. If I campaign or promote to others not to vote SNP, they’ll win but by less and be in minority government, and hence no indyref and probably just more of the same (Greens propping them up). If they’re reliant on a proper indy party, does that help?

Any good news on the horizon?

If nobody sets up a “FanetbyGaslight” Twitter account I’ll be disappointed. 🙂

“Rev. Stuart Campbell says:
22 October, 2020 at 11:54 am
“Sarah Fanet , (is that surname French or just a spelling mistake?)”

It’s French. He’s from France.”

So, his name really is pronounced as Sarah Fanny.

They’re seriously taking the piss.

When Stu began the process of attacking the SNP, I initially thought that he might have been compromised. I couldn’t believe he was attacking the only party capable of bringing us independence. I could not reconcile the information presented with the party I have known and loved for much of my adult life.

At first I tried the cognitive dissonance approach. An absolute refusal to integrate the information presented. Then I wanted to shoot the messenger (not literally obviously) as I became increasingly doubtful about his intent and motives.

Then I thought back to everything he has contributed and sacrificed personally in our battle for independence and came to the realisation that, there has to be more than a grain of truth to what he was saying. I mean why would he lie when he always been straight about everything else and done so much to advance the cause for independence.

As much as it pains me, he has (as he so often has) been proved right and everything that he has been so vocal about regarding the wokerati and the corruption in the higher echelons of the SNP is starting to reveal itself. So apologies to you Stu for ever having doubted you.

As a long standing member of the SNP and regular financial contributor I don’t know what to do at this stage. Do I stay in the party and continue to fund it hoping to effect some level of change from within or do I cut my losses and leave? I can no longer ethically support a party engaged in corruption at the highest level but if I leave, I am pretty much politically homeless.

It’s really encouraging to know that independence is within reach but equally, it’s also massively disheartening to think that I may well never see it in my lifetime and the people I trusted so absolutely to deliver it, have essentially betrayed me and everyone else that has supported them in the battle for Scotland’s independence. I am finding that very difficult to deal with.

What can we do to counter this and advance Scotland’s cause (politically speaking) on the road to independence? Does anyone have any suggestions for a way forward?

Asking on behalf of a nation.

got my snp Christmas draw bumf today. Went straight in the bin, no point in sending it back with some helpful words they won’t listen anyway . Strange really as Im not and never have been a member Ive only ever been stupid enough to vote for them, sadly they are now a danger to women and that I will never vote for.

Mist001 says:
22 October, 2020 at 1:47 pm
“Rev. Stuart Campbell says:
22 October, 2020 at 11:54 am
“Sarah Fanet , (is that surname French or just a spelling mistake?)”

It’s French. He’s from France.”

So, his name really is pronounced as Sarah Fanny.

They’re seriously taking the piss.”

Could have been worse. Could have taken the first name “Iva”

In case yer wondering:

link to en.m.wikipedia.org

Top line trolling by somebody, Sturgeon or the Herald, or both.

link to archive.is

Colin Alexander
They are discriminating against men… and women, which is no easy feat and would be almost laughable if it wasn’t proposed by Scotland’s main independence party and party of government

@Sharny Dubs

http://www.isp.scot

We are only standing on the List as far as the constituency goes you are on your own as are the rest of us. I voted TUSC last time since neither SSP or Greens stood in the constituency. They at least were in favour of us being allowed to hold another indyref if we wanted to.

When the candidates are finalised look carefully at their policies. I may have to spoil my ballot in the constituency. Anything writing on a ballot paper is read to the candidates. So state why you are not voting for any of the above if you have to spoil yours.

The irony here of having to fight the SNP on this

By arguing they have overstepped their authority

And that this is a UK matter

How very 2020

Permission granted for judicial review of act’s definition of ‘woman’

link to archive.is

I’ve been doing research on this and the SNP are actually breaking the rules for an all woman’s shortlist.

Equality act 2010 section 104 paragraph 336

”
336.These arrangements can include single-sex shortlists for election candidates, but not shortlists restricted to people with other protected characteristics. With the exception of single-sex shortlists, arrangements made under this section must be a proportionate means of reducing under-representation.”

Single sexed short list. Not single gender.

Nicola Surgeon took charge of a solid united party and turned it into nothing more than a joke, I’d say she doesn’t even want to win the election but we know how much she desires power so I doubt she wants that big majority that the polls predict, she’d have to act then and we know all she’s interested in is more powers, god willing this enquiry sees the end of her days in power because otherwise she’s going to get her one last term which is all she’s looking for.

@Mist001

Gay people are more often childless than straight people. This leaves them more time to pursue things like politics. Also there’s a long history of gay rights activism which therefore breeds politicians like any activist movement does. I hear this Indy stuff has done so as well. Go figure.

@Suzanne K,

I think the SNP have crossed the Rubicon. It is too late to redeem themselves especially as they persist in their course.

We need to find another home for representation .

Covid has highlighted just how hobbled Scotland is by an over-reliance on the ‘hospitality’ sector, in particular the tourist industry. The tourist industry has several failings, namely poorly paid, seasonal ‘jobs’, and a tendency for councils to allocate money towards things that benefit tourism, rather than the resident population (e.g. money can be found for yacht pontoons and decorative paving, while roads and building deteriorate). Too many politicians are too willing to sell-out their own constituents to the tourist industry.

Scotland needs a medium term programme/strategy to prune back on some aspects of tourism (e.g. cruise ships and bus tours) while simultaneously aiming for the propagation and growth of research and development facilities (in, say, tidal renewables, marine biology, tree-planting/land stabilising [for areas like the Rest and be Thankful]; so on and so forth). If we can attract tourists we can surely persuade people to live and work in areas currently over-dependent on tourism, and seek to ‘de-seasonalize’ the economy, where relevant, towards some useful ends; and to aim to transform minimum-wage seasonal jobs into full-time, better paying careers. We have to stop selling out to tourism when there can be better alternatives.

These are maybe the kind of things the SNP should be working towards: A bigger picture.

Suzanne K says:
22 October, 2020 at 2:27 pm
“William Wallace, change from within the party is now impossible in my opinion”

I’m really banking on that not being the case but, if after the conference the make up of the NEC remains as it is I’ll definitely be chucking in the towel. I’ll vote for my local SNP candidate in the constituency because of who she is but they will not be getting my list vote I think there may be an AFI candidate standing who I can vote for instead.

Say what you like about Shifty Blinkblink, but, for all her faults, you have to admire her re-assuring children regarding Christmas.

BawJaws would never do that, he doesn’t have the common touch.

The General Teaching Council For Scotland (GTCS) is introducing new rules for Scottish teachers from August 2021.

Failure to perform as required by the GTCS means that teachers will be sacked and will not be allowed to teach in Scotland.

From August 2021, they will be required to commit to new ‘Professional Standards’ laid down by the GTCS, one of which is: –

‘Committing to social justice through fair, transparent, inclusive, and sustainable policies and practices in relation to protected characteristics, (age, disability, gender reassignment, marriage and civil partnership, pregnancy and maternity, race, religion and belief, sex, sexual orientation) and intersectionality.’

Intersectionality anyone? No, me neither.

Apparently it was first coined by a feminist (ironically) scholar in 1989 but it has been misappropriated by the wokes. Under their definition, it appears to mean that anyone can use any combination of factors if they want to show they have been subject to discrimination.

This GTCS ‘Professional Standard’ is so vaguely-worded that if teachers don’t put the required effort into indoctrinating their pupils with any of the latest batshit rulings – they risk being out of a job.

Denying the significance of the biological difference between the sexes, is probably the most dangerous policy platform ever inverted. It is counter to just about every tenet of liberal democracy and social justice. Though turning the clock back on women and children’s rights, is compatible with Brexit and Westminster’s disregard for international human rights law. ;(

Sorry for the poor proof reading….is probably the most dangerous policy platform ever INVENTED.
link to womansplaceuk.org

@ Ian Brotherhood 3:12pm

Have you tried the National Records of Scotland website? (nrscotland.gov.uk)

Couldn’t agree more about there being no justification for women only shortlists.

Debarring have of the community on the grounds of their sex is quite wrong. That is discrimination.

There is no doubt however that biological bias and the fact that women have children can be an impediment to a career. That is an inescapable fact. But things can be done to assist in this regard. More flexible working, creche facilities and so on.

But banning men just because they are men – come on!

And then going loopy doo and in the case of Stirling allow a man in women’s clothing to stand in a women only restricted contest, one really does have to ask the question as to whether the lunatics have taken over the asylum.

People are people. All people are all due equal opportunities, equal fairness, and to do otherwise is outrageous. Quite why our SNP is so focussed on this trans – GRA – women only is truly incredible – especially when we live in a country where the arse is falling out of the economy, where people live in real deprivation, where our rights to travel and work freely are being removed – and we focus on trans – GRA – women only

And today it surfaces that in relation to our new ” Saudi Arabia Wind Bonanza ” that not one of the 598 turbie – jackets for the two current mega projects underway off the coast of Scotland is being fabricated in Scotland.

Maybe we should send all these TRA – GRA activists to Asia and let them get on with it there whilst Asia can send back all of the energy construction work.

Who needs jobs, who needs industry when you can be GRA!

@Helen Yates says:
22 October, 2020 at 2:21 pm
“Nicola Surgeon took charge of a solid united party and turned it into nothing more than a joke,”

I’ve never been a member of any party, but to me the SNP under Salmond as FM was a shining example of a disciplined organisation. That made them stand out and must have been a factor in the surge of popularity, independence notwithstanding.

Can anyone help with this? In the clip below featuring Leslie Evans, at 12.28.40, she states that “the Scottish Government decided” to contact the police regarding “three” complaints.

When she says “Scottish Government” what is she referring to – Government as in Civil Service or Government as in Sturgeon/Cabinet?

link to scottishparliament.tv

It’s odd, of course, that only two complaints went on to become the basis for the Government investigation of Salmond when they seem to have deemed that three were significant enough to warrant bringing the police in.

Many asking about the correct pronunciation of ‘Fanet’
It is FA NEH NOT FA NAY (yes fluent French speaker before anyone asks!)

And on Valerie Solanas, who someone mentioned, the book, ‘I shot Andy Warhol’ published 1996 and includes the SCUM manifesto is an interesting read.

Sure most of you won’t be interested, but one quote from the author. Mary Harrron, in the foreword;

”The power of the ‘Manifesto’ isn’t just the attack on men but also the attack on the way women behave with men; it investigates the psychic damage done to both sexes”. (Page ‘ix’ 9)

@Abalha,

So she’s a posh Fa Neh. Eh?

@Ian Brotherhood, 3.12

link to nrscotland.gov.uk

This is a quote from the above website
“As the number of deaths from all causes have returned to average levels and the weekly counts of deaths involving COVID-19 are low, NRS has stopped publishing a full report on a weekly basis.”

So that’s why COVID deaths are no longer announced.

@willie, 4.07

that not one of the 598 turbie – jackets for the two current mega projects underway off the coast of Scotland is being fabricated in Scotland.

Who needs jobs, who needs industry when you can be GRA!

I follow Dick Winchester’s twitter feed and it is the same lack of action with hydrogen cell technology.

The rainbow used to be a natural phenomenon bringing delight to the beholder it is now become a sign of everything contrived, contorted, false and unnatural.
The real thing fades. Hope that the synthetic ‘thing’ fades too and never to be seen again.
The idea of socially conservative Argyll and Bute being represented by a faux women is utterly surreal.

@Grouser

I admire those with the stomach to stay: I’m not sure if I could have done it, although the Woko Haram take-over wasn’t the actual reason I left, it certainly would have propelled me to do so if it hadn’t been for “l’affaire Grousebeater”.

The real question people (both members and the broader movement) have to ask is whether meaningful change can be effected in time? The evidence of the past few years, the campaigns against gender critical voices, the abuse of prominent figures like McAlpine, Cherry etc., and the obvious impunity of abusive TRA extremists in the party, all suggest the answer is a resounding NO.

I have my doubts about the sincerity of *some* of those like Toni Giugliano suddenly calling for dialogue. Whilst he himself may not be on the extreme wing of the party on this issue, if you fly with the crows…..?

Some of the more self aware supporters of self-ID and woke ideology (or just those who lack the moral courage to stand up to the extremists?) may finally have realised that the extremists have over-reached themselves. Time will tell. I have little faith in the sincerity of their calls for dialogue I’m afraid.

A transperson at Holyrood would be the ultimate whitey woke trophy especially if he or she is a person of color,

every city/country will need an elected transgender like having a tram system or a big wheel or a book festival or a cycle way,

on 1 October 2020 in Belgium, Petra De Sutter was sworn in, becoming Europe’s first transgender deputy prime minister and the most senior trans politician in Europe,

it`s not about the qualities of the transperson good or bad it makes no difference to whitey woke it`s all about making whitey woke feel good about themselves,

it`s always all about whitey woke,

they will dump transgender the minute some new cause becomes the woke vogue.

I avoid the BBC but chanced to hear Sturgeon performing her covid show today. She was trying very hard to portray herself as the very honest leader taking very tough decisions and doing her best … hand wringing covers it plus a huge ego. Ian brotherhood @12:41 accurately describes her as flapping.

A couple of days ago @indyscotnews posted an archived article by Neil Mackay of the Herald headlined ‘The end of Nicola Sturgeon? Be careful what you wish for.’

It is best described as a ‘yes but no’ piece punting the possibility that Sturgeon may ‘just throw in the towel’ due to exhaustion – quote by her unamed oldest friend.

Mackay cites the ‘Salmond Saga’ as the reason, but the article is a confused self contradictory piece which attempts to praise Sturgeon’s ‘incredible series of political successes’ (? beats me too). He also claims that she is ‘intellectually and politically the centre of gravity’ for the yes movement (fiction).

He warns that if she resigns there is nobody to replace her which is patently untrue.

Mackay’s offerings are invariably nonsense so most likely he’s just filling column inches but the very fact that he covers the subject is perhaps an early sign of the MSM softening the public up for her departure.

She has for the past six years blocked independence in favour of building her own career so I will be delighted to see the back of her. A competent manager she may be but an independent thinker with strategic tactical skills she certainly is not. Whatever her reasons for her behaviour the SNP is a dead duck with her and Murrell in charge. I have never voted for any other party but will not vote SNP with this current lot in charge. So constituency vote nil, list vote ISP as things stand.

It seems obvious that odious Robertson has been lined up as favoured successor SNP leader. I don’t know enough to hazard a guess whether he could win that contest.

However I think Joanna Cherry for FM would beat him soundly.

If the SNP is to be saved, independent minded MSPs and MPs need to organise a challenge to Sturgeon and elect a new leader and FM who actually wants Scottish independence and is prepared to take radical action to get it. The status quo needs to be shaken up by a new combative energetic leader.

If the current SNP incumbents don’t understand that this is necessary and urgent, I see the unavoidable need for a new party of independence – and let the SNP die like new Labour.

They should realise that they can’t continue forever to take people for fools.

Now that’s what I call duper’s delight

Bob Mack says:
22 October, 2020 at 5:25 pm

The very fact you describe my post as ‘virtue signalling’ just confirms the point.
I’ll bile my heed when you get tae fuck, deal?

@ Grouser at 5.32: have you got onto the SNP Members for Independence facebook membership? There are now 714 of us on there and some Resolutions have been produced between us. I am hoping there are now 714 delegates ready to vote for reform at Conference.

Folks, your party has now become the plaything of WokeyWeirdoes. The worst of the lot are the aggressive misogynists pretending to be women. I have experience with them, and they don’t do dialogue – it’s their way or the highway. So you either need to find a way to live with that, or get rid of them/reclaim your party (and they’ll accuse you of all sorts of horrors if you do). Good luck. You’ll need it.

McHaggis69@5:15pm.

This is not extremism by any means but a man who’s had cosmetic surgery(however extreme) and hormones is not, and never will be, a woman. By all means campaign for 3rd spaces but don’t try to foist these men on women’s spaces.

Is Russell just pandering to the masses knowing fine well nothings going to happen next year on the indy front. Russell won’t be held accountable as he’s standing down next year.

link to thenational.scot

For all the Indy supporters reading that are not SNP members and feel frustrated at the path chosen by, and the ongoing antics of, the Party that is the main supposed vehicle driving Scotland to the destination of being an independent country.

You can actually exert pressure because the Party holds canvas information on its supporters throughout Scotland.
Get in touch with your local constituency office and tell them to amend their Activate database and the reasons why you no longer wish to be identified as a supporter of the party.

Tinto Chiel I left a post for you on only Connect

I’m quite convinced Robertson would bomb as SNP leader. Nothing to do with his views, but he just doesn’t have “it”. He’s basically an allegedly pro-Indy version of Murdo Fraser.

I don’t see it happening.

When the truth comes out about the conspiracy to smear Alex Salmond, I think there will be a lot more than one political career on the line.

Sturgeon grooming Angus Robertson for leadership is her own wishful thinking and on-going denial, in equal measure.

At least in Scotland you can compensate for having a mouth full of aching, rotten, crumbling teeth with a stylish tattoo…

Those dangled carrots won’t be so appetizing if the electorate hasnae any teeth to chomp them.

@ Hatuey

“When she says “Scottish Government” what is she referring to – Government as in Civil Service or Government as in Sturgeon/Cabinet?”

She was questioned at length to try and wring this info out of her, the best she could come up with was along the lines of; not her job; wisnae me; could have been anyone (which covers most of her answers). I assume civil service… But no ones knows yet I think. She shouldn’t have a job at all, she should be locked up in jail in my opinion. I can’t remember if Richards was questioned on it too now… I didn’t keep a clip of those questions anyway.

@ronnie anderson: thanks. Have pure respondit, sir.

– A Person @6:07pm
Happy to hear you think he would bomb. An allegedly pro-indy Murdo Fraser is a fair if damning description!

– Breeks @7:34pm
If Robertson is closely associated with the wrong doing he should suffer when the full truth is revealed. I just hope the full truth is revealed sooner rather than later.

“This is not extremism by any means but a man who’s had cosmetic surgery(however extreme) and hormones is not, and never will be, a woman.“

Absolutely. There are only two sexes in humans.
But you make my point.
All I ever seem to see on this subject is “fuck women” or “fuck trans” and virtually *nothing* about maybe trying to explore a 3rd way of sorting this.

I lay the blame at the door of the SNP for falling for what I see as an extreme solution.

Its also a hill the Rev chose to (twitter) die on and as strong as he believes he had to be, I miss his Twitter account.

Its a fucking mess and no-one seems to be talking about sorting it other than in terms of “fuck you, we’re right and you’re wrong”. A fucking mess,

Scotia Future….it has a certain ring.

McHaggis I suggested a third way – campaign for 3rd spaces. If transwomen are men (and they are) then they have no right to be in women’s spaces, end of.

But yes, I do think the SNP and SG have made a mess of this.

All female shortlists? What a joke. There is no such thing as “positive” discrimination. Two wrongs don’t make a right. Surely excluding men is a human rights issue? Oh I forgot, single white males are fair game – no rights. Well with the GRA woMEN getting in on the act, it’s certainly come back to bite them in the ass now, eh?

I support Scottish independence but I will find it very difficult to vote for a party bringing out this discriminatory nonsense.

susanXX

There are third spaces here in Portgual, mainly in swimming pools. They’re intended for families so daughters going to the pool with dad are spared any embarrassment. They work really well but that obviously costs money. However I doubt the Woo-men would be happy with them since it denies them their real objective 😉 Still as solution it’s practical, is acceptable to all and the rules, written and otherwise, are well known and well understood.

Ian Brotherhood @ 9.39 pm

The Football’s finished now so maybe more people might start posting again . LOL

Did you see my previous post @ 8.14 pm with the links to the Harassment and Complaints Committee ,

Part of me would like to think that this is a cunning plan by the SNP to be able to form a minority government again. Not enough to push for indy but with enough support from the Greens, Labour and Libs to push through their gender woo-woo bill along with other changes. They can then lay the blame on other indy parties and ‘bigots’ for splitting the vote.

Unfortunately I think it’s the fact that they can’t see that they’re doing anything wrong. UK politics is too depressing so I’ve been watching the US recently. The stuff coming from the ‘left’ in politics and academia is no different from what we see from the new wave SNP. Anyone that strays from the approved line is shouted down. You must agree, or else. All pretty depressing and can’t see it getting any better with the rise of the bright young things in the SNP and Greens.

All of this is down to Nicola Sturgeon. For the party to be so obsessed with this madness it has got to be down to either Sturgeon has a biological problem herself or she wants to make her party unelectable which would in turn scupper independence. There is though something going on and it certainly is not independence.
And again I ask, why are the rest of the MSP/MP`s so silent at this threat to independence.

Ian Brotherhood @ 10.05 pm

The letter to Alex Salmond was on the correspondence page right at the very bottom of the page ,

link to parliament.scot

And from this page they are now showing “ phase – 4 Scottish Ministerial Code ,

link to parliament.scot

So hopefully they’ll start to move to that part of the inquiry soon .

@Ian Brotherhood says:
22 October, 2020 at 9:39 pm
“45 mins since the last comment?
Are ALL Wingers Celtic fans or what?!”

New series of Mock the Week was on. Another comedy show 🙂

(runs for cover…)

OT
What happens when the focus of the Scottish Government/SNP is on identity politics rather than industrial policy

link to sourcenews.scot
“The Scottish Government did not place any requirements on EDF Energy to source parts of the supply chain for NnG in Scotland. So when the French energy giant started planning where they wanted to get jackets for the turbines from, they looked at who the cheapest suppliers are worldwide. ”

In contrast, what happens when a government is focused on industrial policy (government in question is Norwegian)
link to fuelcellsworks.com

A Person says
Ales Ball says Scotland has not done better than England but this if quite incorrect

Scotland has around 8% of the UK population. Lets call that 10% to make the arithmetic easy.

Deaths 7 day average Scotland 12.1 so England should have about 120. They actually have 150.5

Infection rate 7 day average Scotland 1225. England should have 12250 they actually have 19552

Alex Bell is big and ugly enough to know these figures so significant doubt must be attached to his position.

These figures are rough but for me I’d rather take my chances up here.