What Anas Actually Said
The entire Scottish media and professional-politician community is currently in a self-righteous froth about a campaign ad being run by Reform for the Hamilton by-election targeting Scottish Labour leader Anas Sarwar.
Obviously none of the acres of press coverage trusts voters to see the ad and decide for themselves, because that simply isn’t how journalism works nowadays. You’re told that a bad thing happened – whether it be a campaign ad, a comedian’s joke or the supposed terrible abuse sent to a celebrity – and how outraged various pundits or other celebrities are about it, with the clear implication that you should feel the same, but you almost never get shown or told what was actually said.
So to start with, as a basic journalistic principle, here’s the ad itself in its entirety.
Now let’s look at what you’re being ordered to think about it.
In a piece for The Times today – which ironically accurately identifies the pious political inverse racism which has directly contributed to so much of Reform’s success – Alex Massie nevertheless calls the ad “disgraceful and baseless”.
But is it? Wings readers have already seen the longer clip of a 2022 Sarwar speech from which the ad has extracted its short clips.
And to be honest Reform’s ad seems a pretty fair summary of it. Much of the criticism has been focused on the fact that he didn’t literally say the words “I will prioritise the Pakistani community”. (And alert Wings readers may feel a slight pang of familiarity here as they recall Unionist politicians during the indyref angrily denying they ever actually said “too wee, too poor, too stupid” in those exact words.)
But the ad doesn’t put that claim in quotes. It doesn’t attribute those words to him, only the sentiment. It’s simply an interpretation of the content of his speech, and it’s an interpretation for which a perfectly valid and reasonable argument can be made.
So let’s play devil’s advocate and do that, by looking at the words he DID say.
Anas Sarwar claims to be a Scot, and as far as this site is concerned he is one – he was born and raised in Glasgow and therefore as Scottish as any of us. But in that case, why was he describing “Pakistanis and South Asians” as “we”? We’ve checked, and Scotland isn’t in South Asia.
Does he also think it’s important that more Scots sit in the parliament of Pakistan for some reason? Because if not, why should more Pakistanis be needed in Scotland’s? Statistically they’re already over-represented: Sarwar, Humza Yousaf and Kaukab Stewart are all of Pakistani heritage, and those three alone make up 2.3% of the MSPs at Holyrood – considerably (77%) more than the 1.3% of Scotland’s population that is of Pakistani origin according to the most recent official census.
Of those three, one is a current government minister, one is currently the leader of the main opposition party and one of them was First Minister until last year. But apparently that isn’t “real power” (what’s ranked above First Minister?), and Sarwar wants even more representation for what he calls “OUR South Asian community”.
(The proportion in fact doubles to 4.6% if you also include those of “South Asian” origin, adding Tory MSPs Foysol Choudhury, Pam Gosal and Sandesh Gulhane, which means there are already over three-and-a-half times as many Pakistanis and South Asians in Holyrood are there ought to be to fairly reflect the Scottish electorate.)
Again, if you profess yourself Scottish, aren’t Scottish people your community?
And if you want even more representation for a particular ethnic minority, even though that minority is already substantially over-represented, isn’t that “prioritising” them? Why would it be an important issue for you when there are so many serious problems in the country to solve? Why do you care more about MSPs’ skin colour than what abilities they might have?
Well, apparently it’s something to do with what Scottish children get taught in schools. What things do Pakistani and South Asian people want taught in schools that aren’t taught there now? Sarwar didn’t say, so we can only speculate as to what teachings mostly-Muslim peoples would want to impose on the 97.8% non-Muslim population. Perhaps the Scottish media could ask him to elaborate so that everyone could be enlightened instead of assuming the worst?
Yes, okay, now we’re being silly. The Scottish political media exists to broadcast party press releases, not to ask anyone in their cosy little Holyrood club to answer any awkward questions, which is why it previously circled the wagons to protect Sarwar and Yousaf from having to explain their infamous co-ordinated “WHITE!” speeches of June 2020, in which they railed furiously against a 95% white country having mostly white people in positions of authority.
Anyone who raised concerns about those speeches was also instantly labelled racist, but neither man was ever asked to explain exactly what their issue with white people was, or why it should be intrinsically and axiomatically bad that a nation’s polity looked broadly like its populace.
Indeed, the media’s grim failure to resolve or even properly address those speeches is ultimately the root of this latest manufactured furore, because it created a lot of the resentment which led people to scrutinise Sarwar’s comments in the first place.
So naturally Reform – who must be absolutely delighted with the response the first ad got – have doubled down with a new one clipping the 2020 speech.
It’s bizarre that a relatively perceptive commentator like Massie somehow can’t see the contradiction. Looking at the evidence dispassionately, there is CLEARLY at least some legitimate basis for believing that Sarwar is racist and is prioritising people of his own ethnic background over native Scots.
The right thing to do with that fact is discuss it and debate it and make a coherent grown-up argument against it, not spew out lazy kneejerk dismissals and suggest that anyone holding that view is a “disgraceful” bigot deserving only the sneering contempt of their betters. Not least because it simply doesn’t work.
Because steamrollering people’s manifestly rational feelings and calling them names rather than dealing with their concerns is exactly why pretty much the whole of both Scotland and the UK are completely sick to death of all the established political parties. (And of course also a large part of why Brexit happened, and why Donald Trump is again the President of the USA.)
And it’s why they’re increasingly tempted to vote for one which is highly unlikely to be any better, but at least hasn’t been PROVEN to be useless yet, and in any event will definitely achieve voters’ goal of delivering a much-deserved kick in the balls to all of the others, even if it achieves nothing else.
eEver seen a Reform advert before but how on earth is stating demonstrably true words spoken by Sarwar “racist”?! They even use the videos in question.
That should have been “Never seen”…
Perhaps Massies first comment has a typo, did he possibly mean “castes” instead of “cast”, I know they are Muslim, not Hindu, but makes more sense then, and I’m sure Anas and Humza and their especially important and very obviously to them prioritized “community” would understand it just fine.
didn’t think you’d stoop to this stu. what a pity.
“didn’t think you’d stoop to this stu. what a pity”
To what, exactly?
So thrope you only want certain truths to be highlighted or talked about, let’s all just ignore the BLATANT baiting and despicable reverse racism being spouted by these self serving ungrateful morons,if you cannot see what is the underlying message being sent by these individuals you are part of the problem
Every one of these lying bastard parties have encouraged mass immigration and encouraged them to bring THEIR cultures and beliefs to the uk,while simultaneously bombing the shit out of their countries and interfering in the governance of their countries, are we SURPRISED that they don’t feel grateful,if anyone has any doubts that the indigenous natives are being FAILED and becoming restless they only have to look at what is happening across Europe
For decades our politicians have encouraged mass immigration for cheap labour whilst at the same time penalising our indigenous families who wanted to have larger families, even today the public perception of anyone who has more than 3 children is that they shouldn’t be allowed or they should be discouraged, HENCE the governments removing child payments,Asian family sizes are quite the opposite where larger families are encouraged and supported,if you do the math you then realise that white indigenous peoples will soon be outnumbered,but its just a coincidence
that Humza and Anas are encouraging Asians to go for POWER
Yeah stoop to what exactly??
And now, for undramatically and straightforwardly pointing out some home truths, I expect that our host can look forward to a torrent of abuse from other media commentators and at least one blogger.
That’s a lonely furrow you plough, Rev, however thankyou for keeping it straight and true.
Hear, hear.
All they had to do previously was employ the smear tactic with career ending words aimed at those they targeted but people are now looking at the overall result of this on the streets around them, in advertising, on the screens, in education and in politics etc and those words are losing power.
I think in cricket terms the Scottish media keep bowling Farage ‘lollipops’
Hi
Geography lesson
Why are the media calling Pakistani’s and Indians South Asians? From an Asian perspective these countries are in the West of Asia. They are Western Asians.
Sarwar, Yousaf, Khan… need to stop using these colonial Kipling concepts.
South Asia is a subregion of Asia located between the Himalayas to the north and the Indian Ocean to the south. It includes countries like Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Bhutan, India, Maldives, Nepal, Pakistan, and Sri Lanka. The region is often referred to as the Indian subcontinent.
West Asia (also called Western Asia or Southwest Asia) is the westernmost region of Asia. As defined by most academics, UN bodies and other institutions, the subregion consists of Anatolia, the Arabian Peninsula, Iran, Mesopotamia, the Armenian highlands, the Levant, the island of Cyprus, the Sinai Peninsula and the South Caucasus.
Eh? Have you looked at a map, rather than old colonial divides and rivers?
I’m a Cocos Malay, which asian box do I fit into?
islam’s not all bad – e.g. it’s going to give the english an absolute fucking pasting, well-deserved
may I salute the indefatigability of the muslim cock
may their brain surgeons, theoretical physicists, concert pianists and AI gurus save our economy with growth and to pay our pensions
link to emilkirkegaard.dk
inshallah, #p4kir4pegangs4eva, #pumpyourcousin, #6fingerbrigade, #caliphate2030
looking at the ONS heatmaps of ethno-racial breakdown of england reminds me of scans of cancer, metastasizing
link to ons.gov.uk
THE ENGLISH DID THIS TO THEMSELVES FOR REASONS OF GREED AND CLASS WAR – they would now try to escape the consequences of their folly, but God’s wrath is upon them, and we should not provide an escape. The people who are the problem cannot be part of the solution. Stay away.
looking to the positive – maybe sharia law will sort out the woke arsehole problem and the purple haired fmnists will be wearing the hijab, back in the kitchen, cooking for their muslim husbands, and much happier for it; trannies will not exist, or keep it so secret they are never seen; muslim tinder will be funny “they all look the same”, and muslim grindr a case of “choose your rooftop” – and over in france, the maternity hospitals all now test for the sickle cell …
For all you computer nerds – islam is not a “process”, or a virtual machine, it is a rootkit virus, which intends to take over and install its own “operating system”.
Good to see you’re still posting here, Confused. I missed your wit while away on ‘sabbatical leave’. Your comments, and those of a few others, are one of the reasons I decided to revisit this place.
Sarwar’s father gave a speech in George Square saying that there will be a law to bring anyone who insults Islam “to justice”.
I think it’s legitimate to ask a would-be First Minister if he agrees with his father’s sentiments.
In the same speech he also said that Muslims loved the Koran more than their own families. If that is the case then what is their motivation in politics?
I have been sick of this nonsense for quite some time. I WANT to live in a democracy in which the political movers and shakers are representative of the polity.
Allow me to express my problem with the status quo in both Holyrood and Westminster:
1. People of colour are (allegedly) overly represented
2. Homosexuals are (allegedly) overly represented
3. Sexual deviants are (allegedly) overly represented
4. The wealthy elite are (allegedly) overly represented
5. Political careerists are (allegedly) overly represented
Family orientated men and women with mortgages, (private sector) careers, a reasonable education and a proven track record in an appropriate field appear to be few and far between.
Where I differ in my thoughts is the belief that the blame for all this ‘over representation’ lies squarely at the feet of the general voting public!
Who wants to vote for an Average Joe when you can put an ‘X’ in a box for a celebrity figure who regularly appears on television?
Kicking the current crop of these (1-5 above) in the privates by voting for Reform will probably only result in another collection of facsimile representatives taking their place.
It’s called the illusion of democracy and it will only change when we vote for the right people to take charge. Whether or not these ‘right people’ will stand for election (or be able to stand) is another part of the debate.
To be fair, Reform insist on having a “real” career, proven success record (eg owning a small business) etc if being considered to stand for them. I know, I was asked.
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Hmmmm. Perhaps I should consider it then! That said, seeing some of their new crop of PPC’s, they may need to instigate some of the other requirements too!
@ Tartan Tory
In absolute agreement with your comment and, I would add, that I don’t want anyone straight out of university with a degree in “Politics” or any young person straight out of school or tertiary education (no matter how clever they think they are) sitting in parliament or councils. We need politicians who are adults, preferably well educated, work experienced and people with business, scientific skills, etc., who know how to ask pertinent questions, take advice and assess policy, not just folk who wish to push their personal agendas or who are there for the perks and publicity.
They should be representing their constituents and their needs first and foremost which should also inform national policies.
People are fed up with snake oil salesmen/women and those who bother to vote will vote for whoever they think hasn’t yet disrespected or harmed them.
Both Yousaf and Sarwar tipped into, if not outright racism, then something very close. The ‘trans’ lobby was all about power and women and girls were the stepping stones. Take all their jobs and positions, and hey presto, you’re there. What about them? Who cares.
Both Pakistani men were teetering on the abyss of outright racist talk – albeit the ‘woke’ and others seem to believe that sideline white people in their own country is not racist, and can never be racist. They evidently haven’t looked at inter sectionalism. Any group that purports to wish to replace the majority of any population with another ethnic population is racist, anti human rights and downright dangerous, just as the ‘trans’ lobby are misogynistic, anti human rights (for anyone else other than themselves) and dangerous. Oh, and Islam is inherently misogynistic, too. Funny that, eh?
I would never want Reform to win in Scotland, but, by god, I hope they give the SNP, Greens, Labour and Lib Dems a good kicking. Disappointed in Massie. On the right, but, usually, intelligent. Everyone was running scared of the men in frocks. Now, it’s Islam that makes them quake in their boots. For the love of God, stop pandering to arrogant minorities and start appealing to the majority.
I agree wholeheartedly Lorn though I DO think he crossed the line into racism
I agree with Susan (and you, Lorn).
The days of Muslims, Sturgeonite Transcultists, and Defenders of our imperial masters never being asked difficult questions needs to stop. I think this will only happen with the destruction of our sycophantic media. Encouragingly, that process is well underway.
You may be right, Susan, but, to me, it seemed to be a power play that verged on racism. It is truly scary how all these minorities get this power thing. I can understand wanting to have the same rights and access to things, even wanting change, but wanting to make it about your ethnic or sexual origins or your stance on climate change or whatever is just as shave away from totalitarianism and reeks of runaway ideologies that are taking the place of normal life.
I mean I could be totally wrong, but it appears to me that so many of these people support all of these things: ‘trans’, BLM, green issues, climate change, Islam. We see people turning up in Palestinian scarves at ‘trans’ events, people with rainbow scarves at climate change events. I’m waiting for someone to turn up at a Palestinian demonstration with green hair, rainbow frock, ‘blackface’, a tree flag and sit in the middle of the road to halt the traffic because the banks are capitalist.
“Disappointed in Massie. On the right, but, usually, intelligent.”
Lorn, Alex Massie is a Tory. The Tories are spineless cowards who couldn’t even conserve women’s toilets. Best paying them no attention, as voters are doing.
“Both Pakistani men were teetering on the abyss of outright racist talk ”
It was openly racist, and they should be in jail. There are thousands of “white people” who have been arrested, and convicted, for a lot less. If we don’t want to be a hated minority in our own land the Scots need to get better representatives.
Perhaps, Red, but I suspect it was more about Islam than it was about being Pakistani. You could have Pakistani origin people in positions of power and it might not make a huge difference, but if you have Islam in power, you are talking about a whole life religion that conflates culture, religion, law, social mores, politics, etc. into one glittering ball – in other words, there is no separation of state and religion, no separation of cultural practices from human rights and no separation of law and state.
We are talking here about a theocracy such as that in Iran or Afghanistan. Even if it were to be less authoritarian, it would still be like Saudi And the Gulf States, with religious police. The virtue-signallers don’t get it: European migrants were Catholic or Protestant, same as many here are. We went through all this stuff hundreds of years ago, and, if not completely secular, we do not impose, on pain of death or ostracism, religious strictures on people any more, thank goodness.
I have never understood the desire to come here to escape the very things you want to impose on others when you get here because poverty and want will be the end result for most people apart from a few extraordinarily rich people. It will be Yemen, not Dubai for most.
And with a single bound, Stu’s stalker has immediately leapt into action on his Scot Goes Paranoid blog.
If there’s only ONE article up by midnight I’ll be gutted.
For the very reasons you outline so eloquently above, Scots will never elect a Muslim first minister they might have (and have had ) one anointed and forced on them but they will never elect one.
The only vote Sarwar ever won outright on his own merit was the Ugly Baby competition.
I heard that the midwife slapped his mother..
He won the competition that many time his mother was allowed to keep the trophy.
Glasgow Southside Central councillor Soriya Siddique stated that in Scottish councils there are too many “male, pale and stale” staff. Just out of interest how many white women of Scottish descent are sitting in Pakistani councils complaining about there being too many Pakistani males of a certain age on them? The more pertinent question would be if there was what would in all likelihood happen to any who did?
With regard to the media, commenters will follow an editorial line and the editors will follow a line imposed by the owners.
I agree AntonD
And did you see the Daily Mail’s article about Police Scotland comparing gender critical feminists to Nazis.
We’re not Nazis. And now I hope reform do kick the SNP square in the nuts over this.
“Of those three, one is a current government minister, one is currently the leader of the main opposition party and one of them was First Minister until last year.”
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The main opposition party in Holyrood are the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party – 30 MSPs
Party leader – Russell Findlay (previously Douglas Ross)
Though obscured in a colonial society, cultural imperialism is based on the racist superiority of one group over others (Edward Said).
After over three centuries of colonial domination this looks like another form of racial oppression heading Scotland’s way.
The Scots as a people have been the target for both sustained and casual racism for more than three centuries. From long before the clearances (not that long ago the last phase being around 1860) to the ‘hilarious’ Russ Abbot’s ‘See You Jimmy’.
Could it be that the racism directed at the Scots from those relatively recent arrivals from other parts of the ’empire’ is down to their desire (possibly sub-conscious) to emulate England’s attitude toward the Scots?
Could it be that those folk who abandoned their own nations colonised by the British empire to make their home in the ‘Mother country’ are more likely to exhibit the same prejudices as those seen in the ‘superior people’ of the nation they were colonised by?
In other words, could the racism directed at the Scots as exhibited by some of Scotland’s politicians for example be down to the psychological legacy of colonialism?
Yes , N , it’s an unfortunate psychological fact that people who suffered bullying/abuse when young often seek redress ( revenge ) by joing , eg the Police , Army , Prison Service and other occupations that involve wearing a uniform and having degrees of power : a dress code that serves the dual purpose of providing protection by membership of powerful institutions and the opportunity to abuse personal power by inflicting pain on others lacking such protection .
In the case of direct or descendant members of former colonies living in the * West * , an entire industry has arisen to feed and feed from the cult of victimhood . Not to say there were not real victims of colonisation – of course there were , grieviously so : but priveliged Middle Class bedwetters/opportunists like Sarwar & Yousaf are emphatically NOT victims , yet there they are forever flaunting their spurious ” racism-inflicted ” stigmata whilst shitting all over the countries and countrymen/women that haVE provided them the means to succeed socially , financially, politically to a degree inconceivable in their countries of ethnic origin .
All sanctioned and applauded by Political Classes insulated from the harsh realities endured by many ( the majority ? ) of the people they are supposed to represent and interested solely in displaying their unquestionable moral superiority
Ach, NC, you’re a tonic so ye are. You lift my spirits on a dreich morning.
It’s truly wonderful to witness where an imagination, buoyed up by an ingrained victim complex, and resolutely determined to ignore all of Scotland and the Scots’ integral part in the centuries-long British Imperial project, can take you.
See all those Scottish place names on the world map. In Canada, the USA, South Africa, South America, Australia, New Zealand, the Caribbean and no doubt other places I haven’t noticed.
Some big English bastards must have put them there and then run away.
If only he were called Anastovich Sarwarov. Can you imagine the gnashing of teeth and rending of garments.
The ‘forlorn shoehorn’…
Massie will write 500 or 1000 words on any subject his editor tells him,
it`s generally the same 500 or 1000 words just names and locations change.
‘It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.’
Sad fact of life is that the Pakistani come Muslim community very much see themselves as a community apart. That is not so with other south Asian communities like Indian Hindus and Sikh who are much more amiable to integration.
No one likes racism, it is bad, but to me Sarwar and Yousaf very much play the race card. No surprise then that many in our society don’t like it, not that they are often not without prejudice themselves.
Yousaf’s white, white, white rant laid bare the sentiment of so many of the Pakistani Muslim community. in a society that has many immigrant descendants they do not act as Yousaf and Sarwar do.
The ad by reform simply draws attention to this. It should not be banned or censored. People have the right to decide what they think. Rants like Yousaf and to a lesser extent position like the one Sarwar promotes do nothing for integration.
Thanks for showing the advert Rev.
For the leader of a mainstream Political Party (sub-branch), which is supposed to be moderate, to commit such an own goal in political terms is not accidental, or stupid, it is strategic.
When viewed in the current climate when the likes of Nigel Farage can play the video to confirm the contents, it provides Nigel with credibility he did not use to have.
We are being increasingly funnelled into polarised voting positions.
The main one being, vote SNP (because Labour just shot themselves in the foot) to fight the growing threat of Reform (the modern day fascist party), and just kick Indy into the long grass while dealing with this emergency.
Sadly many of our Indy supporters will fall for it.
When Reform get into the Scottish Parliament, can we finally get a public inquiry into the grooming gangs in Glasgow, and why there has been a conspiracy of silence in the Scottish Parliament?
Why has not one single MSP asked:
* What happened to the 50 or so men we were told were identified as grooming gang members by police in Glasgow as reported by the press in 2020?
* Why were they reportedly all Muslim men who arrived here as “refugees” or “asylum seekers”?
* What, if anything, is the Scottish Government doing to prevent our children being pimped and raped by these monsters?
* Why does nobody in the Scottish Parliament want to talk about this, when they’ve got time to talk about how much they hate seeing “white people” have jobs in Scotland?
* How many Scottish children have been raped because our politicians wanted to pose with “refugees welcome here” banners?
The granting of lifelong anonymity means that those convicted could redeem themselves with a position in politics with which to pay back society.
The main outrage here isn’t what was said in the Reform ad but that they were allowed to say it and not face immediate ruin and/or imprisonment.
So you want to jail people for what they say?
Your comment reads better in Russian.
Bless.
I have a question for the massiv,
Do many folk support the SNP view that massive inward immigration is the answer to all Scotland’s Problems or do many feel this is just importing the same problems England has and is the main reason why reform are looking so good to many as an alternative?
I don’t have an issue with “south Asians” coming in but do have an issue when in a very small minority not integrating and trying to change the rest of society to be the same as the place they left.
After seeing Bradford
I really can’t vote for anything that will give unlimited immigration
and if we are going to pick and choose
Why are the NATs so up in arms about the idea of a points based immigration system that the TORIES wanted
probably as they are morons
As a points based immigration system is what the SNP promised us in the 2014 shite paper
Also I find it deeply amusing how the NAT movement is based on the events of over 300 years
and they are all bagpipes, tartan and facepaint
With the marches being completely WHITE
Can they give a reason they want to turn Scotland into another bradistan?
Or do they want unlimited immigration just to piss off people like me?
If you do
Well done
It worked
I won’t support unlimited immigration
“I don’t have an issue with “south Asians” coming in but do have an issue when in a very small minority not integrating and trying to change the rest of society to be the same as the place they left”
So you have a problem with lack of integration.
So you have a problem with the ever-expanding growth of an un-integrated “minority” that is heading inexorably towards becoming a majority. First in isolated geographic localities, then within entire cities.
So you DO have a problem with “south Asians” coming in.
Just as you have a bigger problem accepting that you have a problem.
And that’s your real problem.
Seeing reform are the only political party not dedicated to shutting down the north sea
I find it amusing the hatred shown to them by those who want the north sea to finance free stuff
A more minor comment regarding people abbreviating the name of the country someone originated from.
In work we were informed not to abbreviate Pakistan as a Pakistani was joining the company.
If he came from Sweden we can say Swede,Finland- Fin, Italy-Talli, Australia – Aussie, etc.
We don’t seem to offend Welsh people by saying Tafffy or Irish being called Paddy.
PS I have no problem being called a Scot.
Why do Pakistanis go ballistic and shout racist if you abbreviate the country name?
I am all for equality but I want others demanding it to share it.
Paddy is a racial slur.
Paki is also a racial slur.
Well, well. All the interminable wangers oan aboot colonisation suddenly go quiet when Rev Stu puts up an article detailing the real colonising that’s going on in our midst.
So where are all the apologists for Jock Tamson’s bairns?
And where are all the virtue signalling hand wringers, claiming it’s only restorative justice for some allegedly bad things done generations ago by people and to people all long since dead?
Here’s a wee thought to start off the day.
In the days that this article will be the current one, and we’re all interminably and pointlessly posting our tuppence worths, how many thousands of new colonisers will be quietly heading our way in their rubber dinghies?
The English don’t use boats.
Firstly, i detest Farage, he is an odious cretinous individual with some seriously questionable opinions/views. But he stands up for what he believes in, as unpalatable as some of that is to a certain percentage of the electorate.
Secondly, are there any legal brains on here? I’m wondering if Farage could sue Swinney & Co for defamation of character or slander or something? I would love to see Swinney shit-a-brick after being charged and prosecuted.
One odious individual suing another odious individual. Now that surely would produce a good few popcorn moments, eh?
“Firstly, i detest Farage, he is an odious cretinous individual with some seriously questionable opinions/views”
Aha!
A straight cut-and-paste from the likes of the Guardian BTL, where every right-on virtue signaller has to clarify her woke credentials by starting off:
“I hate Trump but you have to admit he’s right about …”
It’s called TDS – Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Looks like we have our first outbreak of FDS in Scotland. I’m looking forwards immensely to charting its spread
You have to remember one of the defining characteristics of the Left: supreme conceit that would shame your average “difficult” 14-year old teenager stomping off to their bedroom.
Admission of error is nigh on impossible – ever – even when confronted with incontrovertible fact (which let’s face it, is rare within the sphere of political discussion), let alone merely compelling circumstantial evidence. This mental fragility is quite something to behold (albeit not in a good way) and is itself a key reason as to why the Left has painted itself into such an ever more extreme, ludicrous corner on so many things, many of them discussed here (kudos to Stu).
As you allude to, expect a good deal more of these “pre-qualifiers” in the coming weeks, months, years.
Bringing Sharia laws into Britain is a major breach of the Treaty of union which specifically states only two religions. And laws based on them and the crown of England within the two kingdoms.
While metaphorically fighting for independence in a peaceble manner it would be wise not to ignore the Breaches to those treaty articles, the original articles terms and conditions are what we are consider in Scotland is restricting binding us in a union,
If the Un are part of the globalism institutions and part of the problem on a larger scale then Scotland will need a plan B,
To be able to walk away because the articles, terms and conditions no longer apply and the treaty itself is unrecognisable and have ended.
Absolutely spot on. Both Catholicism and Protestantism have been prised away, over the centuries, from the state, albeit, just like Islam, they had pretensions to being the state religion in orthodox politics as well as in worship.
The West has thrived by ensuring that no state religion exists in government. It has been a long, slow progress, and the prelates still do occupy seats in the Lords to this day. However, we are clearly not a theocracy – yet.
Theocratic rule is the ultimate aim of Islam. Any woman who speaks out in favour of Sharia Law is a fool to herself and her sisters. Any man calling for its introduction had better make sure that he is not among the teeming hoards, but among the very rich and powerful.
HOW I GOT MY COUNCIL HOUSE QUICKER IN SIX MONTHS, (Scotland )
This Is the title of the Video on Youtube, that someone from Ukra..ne posted.
The housing shortage and waiting list for Scottish people is up to 5 years, for homeless, men women and children,
while for certain others it is fast tracked by the Councils whom except Scottish peoples funding council taxes, the immigration problem has already slithered its way across the borders into Scotland.
The problem is that It is England that is encouraging and turning a blind eye to this onslaught invasions and pretending in the union of Britain that it is protecting us all,
People do not come to Scotland first to apply for papers, or Cross the north sea in boats.
Instead of protecting the the British Isles and therefore the four nations of England and Scotland, Ireland and Wales,
The outcome is that Scotland needs to reinstate its borders so it has actually has control of its borders,
And then perhaps the housing problems for people of Scotland will balance out again, the NHS Scotland might recover, and our taxes will be used for the ethnic people of Scotland.
No I would never vote for Reform because they state they state “they would never let Scotland be independent” in that typical arrogant Colonial thought processing way that they believe England is Great-Britain.
Sawar and usless do not believe in the Scots, their religion or Scots laws.
Come to think of it neither does that mannie whom wants to be leader of all faiths,
When it comes to religion in Scotland, back in 2017, a survey found 12% of us attended religious services weekly.
Of that 12%, a fair chunk will be going to mosques, not churches.
Whatever “broad brush” descriptions of ethnic, indigenous Scots people might want to believe, being formally religious is not one that withstands scrutiny.
Which is why we need to be implacably hostile to Sharia, blasphemy, fatwas, and all the other shibboleths of the aggressively militaristic, expansionist, medieval invasion.
But then again, as the wise man pointed out, those who abandon their ancestral beliefs don’t then go through life believing in nothing – they find they are unable to stop themselves from believing in anything and everything.
Or as young Adolf observed, men easily find it possible to believe in that which is strongly believed. If he were still with us, I’m sure he’d be happy to include women as well.
Militaristic expansionism founded on religion – exactly what the Palestinian Arabs (Muslim AND Christian) have had to endure – for DECADES.
The birth rate in Scotland in 2023, was 1.30 per woman of child bearing age. (In England it was 1.44). In Scotland, though, it’s part of a long term trend in population decline. The EU immigrants reversed this, but only until Brexit.
Scotland needs to take steps to encourage young women to have families. Not just with cash benefits, but with a raft of measures such as nurseries, Sure Start type centres, access to decent housing. What steps are the SNP government taking to do this apart from the ‘baby boxes’? Not a thing that I can see. They need a population building strategy – and a lot of this can be done within the devolution settlement.
That would be a lot more use to Scotland than building private housing for older English immigrants who will make demands on the health and social services whilst not contributing to the economy. The Isle of Lewis health board know all about this problem.
MaryB.
The devolved government has a purpose in being extended up to Scotland under the Crown of England constitutional laws and that was never to make Scotland thrive,
It was the opposite,
When needed the Devolved governance over Scotland would be activated to stymie Scotland making progress in any direction,
It uses includes the media coverage or lack of media coverage as a weapon,
Accepting the devolved government in Scotland removes our rights to self determination.wether that is housing, immigration, money to encourage young families, UK councils instead of Scottish councils, etc,
The devolve governance over Scots extends colonial control from the Crown of England and the supreme court under the Crown of England, and Westminster parliament under the crown of England,
If Englands politics and crown are refusing Scotland the right to self determination and independence,
Then why would their devolved government help Scotland prosper for Scots,
Its just plain logics.
The Great Britain of England does and would not exist if they do not recognise Scotland, its Constitution, its Claim of Right and Scotlands side of the treaty of al union,
Not the take over of its territorial realm,
When we agreed that the monarch crown could be that settled on England by the pre- union bill of rights,
We basically left Scotland with no monarch sitting under the Crown of Scotland. In Scotland,
We gave Queen Anne to England,
The Crown in Scotland is not occupied.
The oaths to Scotland from the monarch of England have been altered over the years and no longer apply,
Because England would never allow their monarch to include sharing power or revert back to the union of Crowns under the crown of Scotland, whereby Scotlands people would hold the power.
The Monarchs of England never sits under the Crown of Scotland since we gave them what was once a monarch under the people,…Queen Anne,
The English constitutional monarch of Englands Great Britain fails to capture the Scottish monarchs crown and the people over that crown.
Hence the monarch of England never places the Crown of Scotland over England.
Scotland is a Country without a monarch, and the realm is under the community of people of Scotland,
The likes of the extended devolved parliament from England under the crown of England and all whom sit in it, including the Snp like sawer, usaf, Swinny cannot pass Scots laws, bring in alternative religions, or use the supreme court under the Crown of England, nor use a shared monarchs Crown between Scotland and England, to authorise anything in Scotland because no one actively sits under the crown Of Scotland, it sit redundant for the time being,
And has been that way officially since we gave England the last recorded monarch of Scotland to England to have as their monarch of England,
And the crown of Scotland left unoccupied.
The crown of England is occupied for the time being.
But it was never a shared crown of the new created and invented country of Great Britain since the political Treaty of union.
Sawar, Swinney and Usaf would do well to remember that , while they sit in the extended devolved parliament from England under the crown of England.
Can someone provide an example of any government or ruler of Scotland respecting the Claim of Right prior to making a decision?
That is to say, asking the adult population of the country (ie all sovereign Scots) what they wanted? Ever?
It is undoubtedly a piece of paper, produced by an unelected body without asking the people of Scotland if they agreed. Without the imprimatur of the people of Scotland, is it really more than that?
Still worried, then? Good.
“That is to say, asking the adult population of the country (ie all sovereign Scots) what they wanted?”
Which ‘facts’ do you think you are checking here? Did it occur to you to actually read the Claim of Right?
That is not how the CoR worked; being sovereign did not mean that the Scots actively governed themselves as their own executive body. Governance was the job of the monarch and his or her parliament, with the authority to do so delegated to them from the sovereign Scots, and limits were set on that authority.
What the Claim of Right did was cite the rights and privileges the Scots already had under their constitution as sovereigns, that protected their interests and freedoms from being set aside by their monarchs and parliaments, or by any official. It was not in any sense a modern popular democracy such as the Swiss have.
The Claim of Right cited a number of key elements of Scotland’s constitution, specifically those that had been breached by the king and his officials, and it was for those breaches that the Convention of the Estates, which represented the Community of the Realm, that is, Scotland’s people, deposed King James VII, thus vacating the throne, and then offered it to William and Mary. James VII was not the first or only monarch to feel the bite of Scotland’s constitution.
The authority of the Claim of Right in Scotland is under a formal guarantee of permanence within the Union, putting it and Scotland’s constitution beyond Westminster’s legitimate authority to amend or ignore. Scotland’s sovereignty as a nation was never given up, as it was vested in Scotland’s people, and they were never even asked to, and no-one had the legitimate authority to take it from them anyway and give it to someone else.
Maybe you’d like to check those facts.
A Real and Ancient Constitution
That’s fascinating stuff, Xaracen.
Could you venture an opinion on whether, by the letter and spirit of Scotland’s real and ancient constitution, an Independent Scotland can ever be anything but a monarchy?
I personally have a bit of an aversion to people who pick and choose from what some cynics might call the Ancient Guff. If we are all to be hog-tied by the Ancient Guff, let’s make sure we know everything that is in it.
If you want to use the example of us Sovereign Scots deposing one king, just so that we could put a new king in his place, let’s explore what that really means for us Sovereign Scots alive today.
“It was not in any sense a modern popular democracy such as the Swiss have”
Indeed. It was a realm, a kingdom, where everybody believed, or paid lip service to the belief, that the Sovereign was ordained by God to rule the country, as long as he retained our approval.
Let’s run that one up our Scottish flagpole in 2025 – see who salutes.
“Could you venture an opinion on whether, by the letter and spirit of Scotland’s real and ancient constitution, an Independent Scotland can ever be anything but a monarchy?”
Yes.
This is caused by a malaise in our society due to 24/7 exposure of rampant individualism imported from the USA via social media.
While the article is about brown skinned South Asians, the same will be equally apply if it was about white skinned English.
We need to stop his foreign intersectional identity politics and focus on an idea of shared values that while is paramount, the rights of individuals are protected.
Will this happen anytime soon? Very doubtful as the issues faced here in Scotland, both socially and politically, is happening in every country throughout the world.
However that doesn’t mean we keep falling for this civic nationalism nonsense that is spewed out of the cappuccino houses on Bearsden and Milngavie but focus on what problems Scottish people are facing in 2025.
Let’s talk about measles while we’re on the subject.
Baron Sarwar jnr and Nigel Fromage are both agents of England. And are no friends of Scotland.
The same goes for SNP parliamentarians, judging by their neutrality and inaction on independence, which fits with postcolonial theory.
link to yoursforscotlandcom.wordpress.com
You are right these colonial infiltrators are everywhere in Scotland.
I don’t know if SarwarLtd is aware that he’s doing more for Reform than he could ever imagine. Probably very time he opens his mouth.
Oh look, a (choose colour) squirrel…let’s all shriek in horror and alarm….meanwhile, the country, our country Scotland, is going to the dogs…and as in the US, the media is complicit, if not completely to blame for stirring up the crap and making everyone’s eyes bleed. While we worry at the flea on the tick on the tail, wagging the dog….more of our assets are stolen, plundered and secreted away, before our very eyes… but oh, that poor wee squirrel…
Sorry, that should be hordes, not hoards. Autocorrect.
Since Sarwar has never been concerned about Scotlands assets being handed over to a foreign power. How would he feel if Pakistans assets were being handed over to India. I think we should be told
Someone should ask him. Though with him being an on the make asset of the britstate I suspect he does not give a crap about Scotland or its people and he certainly doesnt give a crap about the continued theft of its wealth and natural resources by England.
Direct democracy is the answer for ensuring useless individuals don’t last long in politics. Every time they open their mouths or pass a law, it could be challenged/erased by the public vote.
For heaven’s sake, readers, sign the Holyrood petition PE2135 on petitions.parliament.scot/petitions/PE2135. It still has only 6858 supporters – make that tens of thousands and Holyrood will pay more attention.
Holyrood has the attention span of a gnat.
Scotland needs Reform.
Tories on steroids? Fcuck that.
Any ‘Scot’ that votes for Fish Face should immediately be sectioned and sent straight to Carstairs.
Yeah, ’cause a never ending stream of dribbling left wing administrations (decades of ’em) – first Labour, then the SNP/Greens – has left poor Scotland in *such* great shape, eh? (See also: Wales)
Once world-beating education system in tatters, once mighty banking sector utterly bombed out, no new oil fields to be exploited despite people freezing in their homes and facing unpayable energy costs, not ever a bloody refinery…. no industry to speak of, the country’s entrepreneurial power on life support.
It’s all very well saying any ‘Scot’ (whatever the single quote marks are supposed to mean, probably some odious blood-and-soil reference?) voting Reform should be sectioned, but what do you expect ordinary WORKING people (i.e. people earning a WAGE mate) to do? Vote for Swinney yet again?
LOL. It would be funny if it weren’t so tragic, pal. Watch this space as they say, hopefully people have woken up – the stakeholders who have homes, careers, jobs, pensions, kids, grandkids. People with stuff to lose, basically.
Have heard of Lubna? Lubna is an educated Pakistani single mother of two children and runs a You Tube channel. Lubna regarded her channel as a vehicle for connecting English society with her own Pakistani community. She urged fellow Pakistanis to be more grateful for the opportunities offered by England/Britain and reminded the community of the hundreds of Pakistanis who have drowned off the coast of West Africa while attempting to sneak into Europe. Recently a group of men from her community visited her home and demanded she leave You Tube or she would be subjected to dire consequences. Lubna recently made an emotional appearance on her channel stating that she had informed the police of the severity of the threats. She said she was leaving her house and native town and avoid the risk to her live was withdrawing most of the videos from YouTube. Wellwishers worldwide have raised £30,000 to help her.Lubna has stated that she may forgive but will never forget the lack of support from most of her relatives in her crisis.
“Anas Sarwar claims to be a Scot, and as far as this site is concerned he is one – he was born and raised in Glasgow and therefore as Scottish as any of us.”
This definition is going to be a stumbling block. It simply doesn’t account for the complexities which truly make up a people. The reality is that the Scottish are an ethnic group. Simply being born here can’t make you part of it. White Alaskans aren’t Inuits. A citizen, fair enough, but a Scot?
At some point you’ll also need to contend with the idea that people who have ancestry from very different environments, with a different diet, climate, quarry and cultural practices, who have visibly evolved adaptations to account for this, may have also evolved some differences that aren’t skin deep. It’s a common sense truth, with evidence, that is politically uncomfortable. I advise you watch a discussion on YouTube that can be found by searching “race and IQ Nathan Cofnas”.
Sarwar, the man who said in answer to criticism he received over publicly supporting Labours policies on phasing out private schools but at the same time sending his kids to one, that he did not merit criticism as he made that decision in the privacy of his own home.