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    1. Geoff Huijer says:

      Nailed it!

      What is the point of the LibDems?

      Although, I suppose we could say that about Labour, SNP & the Greens nowadays.

      Only the Tories have remained the same and that’s not a good thing.

    2. David Caledonia says:

      Alba is the andidote to the rest of them, show people the problem and then show them the cure

    3. Robert Louis says:

      If only the liberal democrats branch office in Scotland had a different stance on the unwanted, outdated, undemocratic and harmful union with England, Mr Cole-Hamilton, could have been part of Sturgeons ‘not-a-coalition’ coalition with the loony-left ‘greens’.

      A pretendy ‘government’ for the masses, doing nothing of much use to anybody, playing pretendy political games, with silly ‘student union’ style virtue-signalling policies nobody asked for, while London f***s Scotland sideways 24/7.

      Meanwhile, in the real world, only ONE political party in Scotland will be debating INDEPENDENCE at its conference, and that is ALBA.

      https://www.albaparty.org/

    4. David Caledonia says:

      The Alba party supports the promotion of all scotland’s interests and the building of an economically succesful and socially-just independent country

      Says it all really !

    5. Shocked says:

      The criminal Nicola Sturgeon bans protests outside parliament, she calls criticism of gender loony policies “not valid”, the political stitch up with the sexual deviants in the greens continue, the green pressing officer makes a ruling that Queen Nicola can now lie in parliament with no consequences, another New SNP conference is on this weekend where the corrupt party leadership will be playing “nothing to see here” papering over the theft of campaign donations and the human rights of everyone in Scotland… and we get this dig at the irrelevant Lib Dem’s.

      I suspect that certain people are preparing the ground for a volte face to swing in behind Queen Nicola now that the golden Indy carrot has been deployed again.

    6. Grouse Beater says:

      Oor Nicola strangles demonstrations, the last gasp of a dying party.

      Your essential weekend reading:

      ‘Locking Down Holyrood’: https://wp.me/p4fd9j-qyQ

    7. Ruby says:

      Excellent article by Grouse Beater

      as is this one by Kevin McKenna

      https://archive.is/pq8p3

      What amazes me is nothing happens.

      Nicola Sturgeon says complaints ‘not valid’ and that seems to be the end of the story.

      How many last straws will there be?

    8. Andy Ellis says:

      I see the new LD leader has tweeted:

      “Vaccine passports harm principle of government by consent in this country.

      Vaccines are vital but a free society should never compel its citizens to receive medical treatment. If you restrict the freedom of those who haven’t had it, you’re compelling them.”

      https://twitter.com/agcolehamilton/status/1435996857604485126

      So presumably this would extend to not compelling parents who want to refuse life saving medical treatment to their children on religious or other grounds?

      He’d also be sanguine about some modern day Typhoid Mary not being compelled to have treatment or to be isolated on the same grounds, irrespective of the dangers posed to others?

      Was there ever a bandwagon this no mark didn’t race to jump on?

    9. Chris, as a minority group, having a dig at the LibDems could be seen as a Humza hate crime,

      no jury trials ( clownshoe Humza`s idea)

      Judge Leeona June Dorrian and Alex Prentice QC would have you convicted and hanged if they could and they probably could in today`s near fascist Scotland,

      and any concerns would be `not valid`.

      `Fascism stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.`

    10. Ottomanboi says:

      GrouseBeater.
      Fear, the novel plaything of the political classes. Rolled out and trialled so successfully in 20/21.
      Infinite in variety of variants. No shortage of purveyors, no dearth of willing promoters and participants. Modelled to perfection for the extinction of democracy, freedom of thought, dissent and classical liberalism.
      It is very «inclusive» so we may all indulge in the frisson as its chill shadow drains the energy from our common humanity.
      Xtinction Rebellion #2 needed.

    11. Ruby says:

      Andy Ellis says:
      11 September, 2021 at 9:14 am
      I see the new LD leader has tweeted:

      “Vaccine passports harm principle of government by consent in this country.

      Reply

      So what?
      LibDems could receive a huge donation which could easily change Cole Hamilton’s mind.

      Kevin McKenna points out:

      ‘Last year, Patrick Harvie, co-convenor of the Scottish Greens, spoke of his worries about vaccine passports. “I can’t see a way for it to be done without widening inequalities and injustices.”

      Mr Harvie and his Scottish Greens co-convenor Lorna Slater voted this through of course. They wouldn’t want to start life in their new ministerial positions by putting principle before salary increases.”

    12. Ottomanboi says:

      AndyEllis
      Life is stuffed with risk. If that is a problem for some, as it appears to be these days, just stay in bed. Expecting others not to be a «risk» to your perception of existence is a giant leap too far.
      Wear a mask, distance if you will but do not expect others to share your life angst.
      Mary Mallon aka Typhoid Mary speaks loudly of racism and the notion of the dirty immigrant infecting the squeaky clean host.
      Nasty!
      My mideast background has taught me and my kind not to expect «others» to be your keeper.

    13. Captain Yossarian says:

      It’s about time Chris Cairns had a go at Holyrood’s management of the Scottish NHS. One way of looking at it is it’s not just the SNP’s fault, it is all of Holyrood’s fault. The other way of looking at it is it’s not just Holyrood’s fault, it’s Nicola Sturgeon’s fault.

      The story is told by the statistics. Over the course of the last 10-years, Scotland has invested far less in the NHS than any other home Nation, including NI. When this goes-on for a year or two, problems can open-up. When it goes-on for 10-years, the service lurches towards collapse.

      What has gone unnoticed by the Scottish press is that Westminster is going to start funding the NHS itself. When you spend £300m on two ferries that are only worth £80m, that money has to come from somewhere and one of the places is the NHS.

      Along with education (now in the hands of Shirley-Ann Somerville) and law (now in the hands of Keith Brown) we have the NHS now in the hads of Humza Yousaf. Now would be a good time to get yourself out of Scotland. That’ a choice not open to everyone of course but, if you have the choice, I would leave now.

    14. Ruby says:

      ‘Just a few months ago, prominent members of each of these notionally left-wing parties – including our increasingly erratic and unpredictable First Minister – were falling over themselves to condemn the Home Office for sending vans into Glasgow’s south side to detain a handful of undocumented immigrants. Now they’re asking that reviled UK Government department to let them round up Alex and Maureen from the Hedgehog Preservation Society and stick them in the pokey.’

      Kevin McKenna.

    15. Ruby says:

      Captain Yossarian says:
      Now would be a good time to get yourself out of Scotland. That’ a choice not open to everyone of course but, if you have the choice, I would leave now.

      Reply

      Fuck that! You can go if you want but I don’t think most people will be giving up that easily.

      Where are you going to go?

      When you leave will you continue to fight for Scotland to remain in the Union?

    16. nevermind says:

      Alba, once they worked out framework policies to get to a plebicite/UDI on Independence, should consider asking the public who in large numbers voted for Independence once in a referendum, whether their beliefs have been full filled by the procrastination’s of the SNP, not just during that referendum, but also in the following years when they actively suppressed debate on Independence at their conferences.

      I would say that those who believed in Independence then, still do at heart and they can still support a party that really wants to move towards it, with or without clause 30 or a referendum.

      Alba could try and meet up with EU representatives and see what feedback there is for their plans and policies vis a vis to ‘nothing much here’ on the ruling SNP/Green coalition.

      COP 26 will further open peoples eyes as to the reluctance and sheer ignorance of the Westminster lead towards a more sustainable future, when Scotland has many opportunities to go ahead with green innovation and something akin to a common weal green deal NOW, rather than dancing to some arbitrary future date/goal promised by those who have failed since the 1970’s to introduce incremental annual steps to change our polluting habits.

      Lets not wait for Independence and change from those who failed to move, if you want to see a future for Scotland’s young generations, acting now is not prohibited, yet.

      Alba can be the party that does work together with local citizen assemblies, they can remind people that Independence from England is more than just a belief, that it is still in their hearts and minds.

      Much thanks to Chris for his apt cartoon…..lost parties/dinosaurs will have to die out before something suitable emerges.

    17. Robert Hughes says:

      And there , predictably , is Android Ellis – a guy who’s never seen a repressive measure he can’t agree with – defending this ScotGov attack on civil liberty re vaccine passports.

      You’re not exactly over-burdened by originality of thought are you Andy ?

      Using the hypothetical and in reality extremely rare example of parents refusing a child medical intervention on religious grounds to excuse the mass imposition of * penalties * for failure to comply with State dictates on physical autonomy is so ridiculous as to be laughable

      I bet you’re a ” puffed but never inhaled ” kinda guy Mr E .

      Anyway , should you not be in Greenock telling ALBA how to achieve success via the tried and tested Elysian Civic * Nationalism * method .

      Worked a treat in 2014

    18. Republicofscotland says:

      Ha nice one Chris.

      On another note, Queen Lizzie has been receiving thousands of pounds in subsidies from the taxpayer for her Balmoral estate in Scotland, this come on top of her three shooting estates in Scotland that she pays less rates than the average high street shop after successfully appealing against paying the proper ratable value, and she’s saved thousands of pounds, doing the public out of the benefits of the proper ratable values.

      As with Prince Andrew, and indeed all the royal parasites out to get what they can from the taxpayer, why would an independent Scotland want to hang on to these wretched creatures after indy.

    19. Captain Yossarian says:

      @Ruby – When the NHS waiting list was 85,000, Nicola Sturgeon stood up in Holyrood and said it was a humiliation for Scotland. The NHS waiting list is now 600,000 and was 450,000 before the pandemic. It was in the news yesterday that an OAP waited for 22-hours on an ambulance. The NHS has become like education and the law in Scotland. People laugh at you when you speak about Scottish law nowadays, but when the same thing happens to education and the NHS, then it’s time to leave. You can stay ‘and fight’ if you want and there’s nothing stopping you.

      What’s the problem? Why is this happening year on year? I don’t know if you remember the Chilcot Inquiry into the Iraq war? The day it was published, Robin Cook started reading it and stayed-up all night so that he was ready to question the then PM in the morning (it was either Blair or Brown). He was brutal and his questions were so incisive they just couldn’t be answered. That happened at Westminster. Would that happen at Holyrood? Is Humza Yousaf not more pre-occupied with the alleged racial stereotyping that’s going-on at Little Scholars Nursery School than he is with getting to grips with the Scottish NHS. If he finds Health too complex, as he found law too complex, why doesn’t he just resign?

    20. Hatuey says:

      I have no problem with vaccine passports in themselves, the idea that government can compel people to get vaccinated, or any sacred principles being violated as a result. I’d happily watch them drop molten lava on anti-vaxxers if there was a compelling enough, life-saving, argument for doing so.

      The truth is the passports won’t make a bit of difference. Delta is running riot now, and nothing can stop it. As we go into winter and the weather deteriorates, and all the colleges as universities go back, etc., we are going to see an explosion of cases. I fully expect them to bring in some sort of lockdown again when that happens.

    21. Captain Yossarian says:

      @Ruby – …..I almost forgot, we’ve not had an allegation of ‘malicious prosecution’ in Scotland for ages now; for at least a fortnight. You must be pleased.

    22. Pixywine says:

      ” What is the point of the Lib Dems”? What is the point of the vaccine pass?…. Anyone?
      The Lib Dems at least are asking questions in Parliament the rest are going along with Bankers passports especially the puppet SNP

    23. Pixywine says:

      David Caledonia. You seem to have missed out the gaming our freedom from Fascist Oppression, lockdowns vax passes bogus “emergency powers”. Everything else is pie in the sky

    24. Ruby says:

      I made the mistake of responding to a Unionist troll!
      Instead of answering my question the troll came back with a further long screed of Unionist trolling.

      Unionist troll says you should all leave Scotland you are a risk to the Union.

    25. Ruby says:

      OMG The Unionist troll is stalking me now!

    26. Pixywine says:

      Ladies and gentlemen, fellow commenter. You lot and I disagree on certain policies but the “vax passports” being the I D system Tony Blair tried to ram through Westminster when he was in office may bring us together to shout “No fucking way” to our Governments?

    27. De Valera says:

      So Robin Cook studied the Chilcot Inquiry? Please tell me more captain.

    28. Robert Graham says:

      Some prick who has recently emerged on the pink fairy website WGD defending the latest move by Gruppenfuhrer Sturgeon ,

      It wasn’t the Stasi leader who introduced this No anything Zone around our parliament it was the parliamentary executive Ha Ha oh fk aye ok nothing to do with Sturgeon eh .

      Talk about attempting to defend the indefensible this lot who cheer anything that the failed Lawyer does and can’t see this liar is making it almost impossible to approach her and her inner circle of off the wall fkn weirdos who are trying to change the definition of women the wee green gremlin who looks like the type a chief inspector I know used to call the type that hangs around men toilets

      The future Scotland according to the Fuhrer Sturgeon is going to be a very strange place as she kept saying life will never be the same again this will be the new norm ffs Wakey Wakey people

    29. Pixywine says:

      Good morning Ruby. Still busy I see.

    30. Captain Yossarian says:

      @Ruby – if you find this site too complex, just stop posting. It may be the case that no-one would mind too much. You never know. One of Stuart Campbell’s few rules was: ‘play the ball not the man’. Why don’t you think about that for the rest of the weekend.

    31. Ruby says:

      Robert Hughes says:
      11 September, 2021 at 10:03 am

      You’re not exactly over-burdened by originality of thought are you Andy ?

      Reply

      Where is your originality of though Robert?

      What are you and ‘Pixywine’ doing to ‘defend this ScotGov attack on civil liberty re vaccine passports.’

      It looks to me as if both of you just come onto Wings to attack people for not doing the job for you.

      Both you and ‘Pixywine’ are the ones who need some originality of though.

    32. radgie gadgie says:

      Covid 19 vaccines are based on experimental medical technology.
      Their medium and long term effects are unknown.
      Short term effects include high numbers of serious and sometimes fatal reactions.
      They don’t prevent you from catching covid.
      They don’t prevent you from spreading covid.
      They don’t prevent you from requiring ever more covid vaccines.
      Compulsory medication is illegal under the Nuremberg Code.

      Did I get anything wrong?

    33. Captain Yossarian says:

      @De Valera – https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/must-watch-robin-cook-preempting-the-chilcot-enquiry-in-2003-30620/

      He pre-empted the Chilcot Inquiry. My point is that this is the way parliamentarians work. You ask awkward questions. None of that happens at Holyrood.

      What’s your point?

    34. Alf Baird says:

      Captain Yossarian @ 9:36 am

      “Now would be a good time to get yourself out of Scotland.”

      Ah, the ‘concerned’ (sic) cry of the usurper and his native bourgeoisie acolytes who together form our ‘mediocre meritocracy’, and their aim to ever further diminish the native population, their identity and desire for nationhood. So reminiscent of the 1920s and 30s and the late 1800s when Scotland was losing almost 10% of its population every decade, and continuing on from the pointless destruction and removal of much of the Scottish male population in 1914-18.

      Which brings us to the realities of independence and hence to decolonisation – which is about the removal of the imposters and usurpers, the deceitfu schamers wha aye haud Scots fowk an oor naition doun.

    35. Pixywine says:

      Andy at 9:14 What a wild extrapolation you make from Fascist vax passports to religious exemptions from other treatments.
      Completely disingenuous argument you make.
      You lot were warned this was coming you laughed it off. These Apartheid passports are criminal in nature and designed to keep us confined for the Green Agenda.
      Wake up you fools.

    36. Ruby says:

      OMG Unionist troll still stalking me.

      He’s now resorting to abuse and the ‘do as I say not as I do’ type of education.

    37. James Che. says:

      The { chosen ones } have spoken,

      “There will only be one kind of racism in Scotland, our kind,…. against the people”

    38. Ruby says:

      Unionist troll says leave Scotland & stop posting!

      Has he committed a racist hate crime?

    39. Derek says:

      Oi! Nothing wrong with the Pink Fairies…

    40. James Che. says:

      Radgie gadgie.

      It is very scary how close to destroying the Nuremberg code we are,

      But Scotland was always the little country experiments were tested out first.

    41. Pixywine says:

      Robert Grahame. The reason Sturgeon has appealed to Westminster to protect Holyrood from the Scots is because the scum in Holyrood are frightened of us. They are frightened because they know we are catching on to their bogus pandemic.
      Sturgeon is like Herod appealing to Caesar.

    42. Ruby says:

      Pixywine says:
      11 September, 2021 at 11:17 am
      Robert Grahame. The reason Sturgeon has appealed to Westminster to protect Holyrood from the Scots is because the scum in Holyrood are frightened of us. They are frightened because they know we are catching on to their bogus pandemic.
      Sturgeon is like Herod appealing to Caesar.

      Reply

      What are you going to do about it?

    43. De Valera says:

      My point is that you are simply here to divert and disrupt threads with your poor quality trolling. You do like to finish your wee rants with a question so as to goad people into a response, which of course continues the disruption.

      Stuart Campbell keeps pet rats and it would appear that he keeps some rats on here too, leading the people on like a Kafkaesque tale of the Pied Piper.

      I could finish by asking you to stick to posting drivel about Marianas Trench primary school. But on the other hand, don’t. Just piss off.

    44. J.o.e says:

      One way or another there is nothing but problems ahead for a population this stupid.

      Even the ones who think they can think fall for thin narratives such as global warming, Covid, ‘trans rights’, multiculturalism, war on terror and are forever behind the curve.

      This while they have a means to discover things for themselves which was unimaginable just 25 years ago.

      The ones who think they can think are all about the fact that multinational corporations, banks and governments are dangerous and in need of being brought to heel – but continually fall for lies they put out to continually expands their power and the would-be concerned ‘thinkers’ actually end up defending the fake narratives.

      Unpopular opinion:
      Anyone who has put themselves forward as some kind of concerned civil rights defender or Scottish patriot, or would-be political leader who haven’t yet expressed heavy concerns with what is happening around government measures with Covid (rather than covid itself) sits somewhere on the scale from being out of touch, uninformed and incompetent all the way to being either actually totally unconcerned with human rights or is simply compromised and establishment owned.

    45. James Che. says:

      First to prison a man for not saying something politically.
      First to make a law to capture previous first ministers.but not present ones.
      First to place a ban on the public getting to close to a building their taxes paid for.
      First laws against its people to try steal you’re children legally.
      First law against its people for free speech,
      First law to intrude on the private rights of you’re home,
      Now we will be the first to bring in new laws for yellow star passports.

      I will try not to mention poll tax to often,

    46. Ruby says:

      J.o.e says:
      11 September, 2021 at 11:26 am
      One way or another there is nothing but problems ahead for a population this stupid.

      Reply

      J.o.e says you are all stupid.
      I am here to educate you.

    47. Pixywine says:

      Ruby. Most of us are essentially powerless. All we have is word of mouth. Calling the alarm on Politics I believe are wrong is doing something. The next thing we can do is refuse to participate in the passport system.
      Having refused to take any gene therapy experimental DNA altering drug I fully expect State backlash. If everyone had caught on to this at the start and refused to comply we wouldn’t be facing a lifetime of restrictions and surveillance. Australian politicians are already openly referring to their ” New World Order”.

      I have tried to make people aware that there is more to our current politics than our health.
      If Australian police think its necessary to kick women and little girls in the face for not wearing a mask do you think that’s good for their health? You have a cheek calling anybody a Troll.

    48. J.o.e says:

      @Ruby

      Someone can express a concern about what is going on without some foaming at the lips, thick as fuck twat like you demanding what they personally are doing about it.

      As for myself – I am doing something about it. But my personal life and this blog do not meet.

      Its especially ridiculous when a idle old tart like yourself who contributes very little except grade B trolling asks that of someone who has had a consistent contribution to awareness, a different perspective and the conversation in general.

      Why don’t you fuck off and read another novel. Then you can spend time telling us what you learned from it.

    49. Captain Yossarian says:

      @De Valera – I’m just heading out – so I’m happy to leave the site to you and Ruby for the rest of the day.

    50. Breeks says:

      ALBA Conference Live Stream…

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT7fbfZFWw4

      😉

    51. Pixywine says:

      Alf Baird. What a load of “whaes like us” sentimental claptrap.

    52. James Che. says:

      The first pied piper, to lead and try break the Nuremberg laws set in place to stop experiments on humans.
      By coercion, by pressure, by locking people up, or locking you down into a prison without bars, but by new covid laws that touch on taken freedom from the citizen, by stealth laws.
      And while you are locked up and out of touch with the rest of society it would be sooo easy to take children.

      You will all be under trial, without a open court hearing, a jury, or a public hearing,

      Wow,

    53. Pixywine says:

      De Valera. You’re an insult to your moniker.

    54. Hatuey says:

      Joe hits the nail right on the head once again;

      “The ones who think they can think are all about the fact that multinational corporations, banks and governments are dangerous and in need of being brought to heel – but continually fall for lies they put out to continually expands their power and the would-be concerned ‘thinkers’ actually end up defending the fake narratives.”

      The trouble is nobody knows what the fuck he is talking about.

    55. James Che. says:

      Breeks,
      Cheers for info.

    56. Ruby says:

      Hatuey says:
      11 September, 2021 at 11:52 am
      Joe hits the nail right on the head once again;

      The trouble is nobody knows what the fuck he is talking about.

      Reply

      Is ‘Hatuey’ saying he doesn’t know what the fuck he is talking about and neither does Joe or is he saying only he and Joe know what they are talking about and everyone else is wrong & don’t know what the fuck they are talking about?

      Or is ‘Hatuey’ just another troll posting pish?

    57. Tannadice Boy says:

      Breeks 11:45am
      Thanks.

    58. Breeks says:

      Live stream down until 1:30 for lunch break.

      Next motion at half one is women and equality…

    59. Robert Graham says:

      Good to listen and see people who really want a Independent Scotland and not the fakes that have been put in place by Bawjaws government.

      The dictator who presently resides in Bute house might just have overstepped her brief and listened to her own publicly by stopping people from being in and around our parliament

      Her defenders say it wasn’t her who instigated this Anti democratic move that would have raised a smile from even uncle Joe Stalin might just come back and bite her on the arse

      The ALBA conference brings back memories of what the SNP used to stand for and way back in the mists of time used to talk about that one word Independence that this version of the SNP can’t bring themselves to speak about let alone plan and prepare for because it’s totally Taboo .

    60. Republicofscotland says:

      On top of using the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body to shutdown demo’s outside Holyrood, because Sturgeon didn’t want to hear the recent 500+ women booing her outside Holyrood over the women’s hard fought for rights being eroded under Sturgeon’s GRA plans.

      Sturgeon is now urging critics of the GRA, to stop focusing on that and to focus on REAL threats to women, you couldn’t make this shite up if you tried

      Sturgeon further said while many criticism of the GRA are sincerely held, they were NOT VALID, in other words I hear what women are saying but in my opinion women are talking shite.

    61. SNP are going to `decarbonise` a million homes,

      20% of your body is carbon,

      She/Her the Green Goblin/he/him and the Canadian/she/her will be round with the shears,

      any concerns are `not valid.

    62. James Che. says:

      I hope the members of Alba continue its steady growth,
      But I do have a paranoid fear of it being infiltrated, in the same way the snp have been by extremists,
      Spouse is a member but I holding steady until the infiltrators are spotted and sussed out, I have a fear of one such person already, whom does bulldozing bullying and name calling.

      That is not what I want for Alba, it will bring it into disrepute before it has had time to run at elections,
      My spouse is just saying I should join so I can run for council elections as I don’t take no nonsense, and stand against the domination of people and do a bit of nitpicking apart of laws,
      I have my doubts as I think to become a councillor you need more knowledge and record keeping as well as a variety of other systems, and the public,

    63. J.o.e says:

      @James Che

      ‘I have my doubts as I think to become a councillor you need more knowledge and record keeping as well as a variety of other systems, and the public,’

      I once worked in the accounts department of a council. Apart from obvious misuse of funds, which I was asked to keep quiet about, I noticed that the councilors were basically fuckwits whose singular outstanding feature was shamelessness.

      If you are so inclined then do it.

    64. Robert Graham says:

      Sturgeon getting a right boot in the baws from the ALBA woman at conference oh dear how sad eh

    65. Robert Graham says:

      I bet if you were to ask any women in any town or city in Scotland if they either have heard of or understand what Sturgeon and her new pals are planing for them , not many could tell you and if they were told they wouldn’t believe a word you were saying because it’s so unbelievable .

      When JK Rolling is now the voice of reason you instinctively know something is way wrong

    66. Breeks says:


      James Che. says:
      11 September, 2021 at 12:44 pm
      I hope the members of Alba continue its steady growth,
      But I do have a paranoid fear of it being infiltrated, in the same way the snp have been by extremists,

      Never say never, but the SNP’s problems all stem from Sturgeon’s weak and ineffective non-leadership. That’s been an open door for exploitation and infiltration, compounded by the same weak leadership’s inability to reign in that very interference. The supply teacher wasn’t up to the job and the “kids” have run riot ever since.

      I actually think Sturgeon is about as genuine and sincere about GRA reform as she was once “genuine” about Scottish Independence. She’s a shape shifter, and I would not trust her “genuine” slant on pretty much anything.

      But I don’t think ALBA will be anything like as gullible as Sturgeon’s SNP. I think their vetting will be a lot more diligent, and tolerance for distraction will not make it through the mesh.

      I actually think Alex Salmond will try to repeat the YES formula of 2014, he’ll embrace reconciliation and strive to make YES 2021 as positive and as broad a Kirk as possible, but within that broad Kirk, I think insubordinate disrupters will find it hard to get any purchase. Alex Salmond will prove yet again what a canny strategist he is.

      I think the biggest problem on the horizon is the asinine petulance of the SNP, when the likes of Pete Wishart are too stupid to realise the SNP has lost control, and start their tedious sniping entitled whining.

      Even with ALBA prioritising the Constitution and Sovereignty, there will still be democratic issues to be addressed. There are Local Council Elections next year, and it’s likely that those elections might be the only way for ALBA to flex some muscle and further establish momentum and legitimacy democratically, and unfortunately, I think the SNP will relish the job of trying to wreck that the same way they put the boot in to ALBA’s List Party Strategy.

      In short, I think we grassroots Independentists have about a year to kill or cure the SNP, boot Sturgeon into orbit, and see whether the SNP has any contribution to make to help, not hinder, the ALBA / Salmond strategy, and help knocking Scotland into shape and braced for a Plebiscite UK General Election in 2022/3.

      It’s possible, (bearing mind a lot could change quickly), that the most influential people in Scottish Politics these next 12 months might be the Joanna Cherry’s, Angus MacNeils, and Philippa Whitfords, who now constitute the “sensible fringe group” still inside the SNP. Even if the SNP can’t be persuaded to back ALBA, hopefully they can be persuaded to keep their traps shut and hold in their venom while ALBA try’s to extricate Scotland and Scottish Independence from Sturgeon’s incompetent disaster.

      The SNP I fear will remain dysfunctional until it comes under new management, and that, I suspect, is why certain people are staying put in the SNP.

      A second danger is Boris Johnson and the Westminster Establishment realising Sturgeon is damaged goods, and seeing that her corrupt SNP has divided the Independence Community. A canny gambler like Boris Johnson could call Sturgeon’s bluff and agree to a snap IndyRef when the Independence Community is acrimoniously fighting with itself. In other words, give Sturgeon a referendum when she is more than likely to lose it. I think this possibility is unlikely, but the odds could increase markedly once Westminster recognises the much more potent threat of ALBA’s Plebiscite General Election.

    67. Tannadice Boy says:

      Very refreshing debate on women and equalities at the Alba Conference. I recognised a couple of the speakers from their activities with the SNP and the Indy campaign. Bodes well for Alba.They are good people. Alba women won’t wheesht. Powerful stuff.

    68. J.o.e says:

      In fact James, consider me a supporter if you ever do get into politics

    69. Breeks says:

      I think Boris Johnson would rather face a feckless Nicola Sturgeon in a rigged Referendum Campaign, than a shrewd and clever Alex Salmond in a first past the post Plebiscite General Election.

    70. PhilM says:

      I think Capt. Yossarian is mightily confused.
      It was when the Scott Report was published in 1996 that Robin Cook was given two hours to read a million of so words but he and his researchers managed somehow and he was able to give a ‘bravura performence’ and demolish the Major govt.
      So he didn’t stay up all night in 1996 or in 2003 and your linked video just confuses more because obviously Robin Cook had no idea that he was doing anything other than giving a resignation speech.
      Maybe best not to rely on memory too much especially concerning events so long ago (not in terms of chronological time but in political time this feels like it happened generations ago).

    71. Pixywine says:

      https://www.bitchute.com/video/cowWTAnDDhEJ/
      Many doctors and scientists are placing themselves on the line in order to warn us of the dangers of current Government policies while the Governments bought and paid for shill scientists prefer to play safe and cowtow to Government and big Pharma.

    72. Andy Ellis says:

      @Ottomanboi 9.35 am

      “Wear a mask, distance if you will but do not expect others to share your life angst.”

      I don’t expect them to. I’m not in a state of angst. I think they should be free not to wear masks or not get vaccinated. If it means they aren’t allowed access to certain venues as a result then that’s their choice.

      “Mary Mallon aka Typhoid Mary speaks loudly of racism and the notion of the dirty immigrant infecting the squeaky clean host.
      Nasty!”

      Do you think the authorities would have acted differently if she’d been US born or a recent English or say Norwegian immigrant? I have my doubts. We’ve seen where labelling things what they aren’t leads in the Labour party recently, haven’t we?
      Nasty!

    73. Andy Ellis says:

      @Ruby 9.25 am

      “So what?
      LibDems could receive a huge donation which could easily change Cole Hamilton’s mind.”

      True dat. It’s indicative of the LD’s shallow talent pool that he managed to float to the top.

    74. Hugh Jarse says:

      Robert, I believe that the term for what your Chief inspector describes is a ‘cottager’.

      I’ll have to leave it to imagination what role wee Harvie might have in the rough trade undertaken within.

      One to keep the maximum available urinals away from. Defo.

      I suppose that he has Spads for that sort of thing now.
      Guaranteed a reach around.
      🙂

      ‘Mone the Alba.

    75. Captain Yossarian says:

      @PhilM – You’re correct; I have confused the Scott Report with the Chilcot Report.

      The point I was making was that Robin Cook showed endevour and resourcefulness at Westminster. He wasn’t afraid, was he?

      Have we seen endevour and resourcefulness from anyone at Holyrood in the last 20-years?

      Endevour and resourcefulness at filling-out expenses sheets maybe….but has anyone resigned? Has anyone had enough and resigned?

    76. Hatuey says:

      Alba needs to find ways to get its message out. You can have the best policies and ideas all you want, if nobody is hearing you then you might as well give up.

      That’s all that matters really — reach.

      They can do this with just two dedicated professionals, one that understands social media and online marketing, one that’s able to create good content, videos, graphics, animation, etc.

      They also need to figure out how to access traditional and mainstream media channels. That’s a tougher one, but with the right strategy the situation can be improved on.

      I’m actually sick hearing about policy. For me it would be enough to simply say “whatever those fake bastards over there say is good, we are against it…”

      I know what you’re thinking… I should do the marketing job myself. If I had more time to spare, I would.

    77. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Hatuey –

      Alba have Kirk Torrance, so your expertise probably won’t be required anytime soon.

      😉

    78. Captain Yossarian says:

      ….and one last thing, Phil. One thing I do remember from 25 years ago was when Holyrood opened it was declared that it would not be filled with lickspittal spoofs and bull-shitters…..how did that work out for you?

    79. Andy Ellis says:

      @James Che

      “Spouse is a member but I holding steady until the infiltrators are spotted and sussed out, I have a fear of one such person already, whom does bulldozing bullying and name calling.”

      As a Founder Member of the party from day 1, I can say that I’m not sure what sort of welcome awaits some random from the internet who appears to entertain wild fantasies about those already in the party being infiltrators?

      Who is it you think this infiltration is being done on behalf of exactly? It would seem to be a fairly serious allegation against someone who will be a fellow member.

      Of course if you let me know what branch you’re thinking of joining I’d be happy to take it up with them myself? Or of course, you could just remain an anonymous online coward like so many of the other tin foil hatters in here.

      Same old, same old huh?

    80. Charles Hodgson says:

      Andy Bell-End Ellis
      I ain’t an “anonymous coward” or a “tin-foil hat wearer”, you c*nt.
      Any-time, any-where.

    81. Andy Ellis says:

      @Robert Hughes 10.03 am

      1) “And there , predictably , is Android Ellis – a guy who’s never seen a repressive measure he can’t agree with – defending this ScotGov attack on civil liberty re vaccine passports.”

      Awkwardly for what passes for you point I actually think the measure is an over-reaction and not required. I was simply pointing out that I think Cole-Hamilton’s argument against it was flawed, as there are plenty of examples where government will curtail civil liberties which most of the people, most of the time will support.

      I know it doesn’t suit the moon howling fraternity in here that think the Covid jab allows governments to track your movements, or probably causes autism the way things are going. I doubt you actually know much about my general views on measures governments might take in general Robert, but have a feeling that thoughtful analysis probably isn’t your strong suit.

      2) “Using the hypothetical and in reality extremely rare example of parents refusing a child medical intervention on religious grounds to excuse the mass imposition of * penalties * for failure to comply with State dictates on physical autonomy is so ridiculous as to be laughable”

      Both are faith based positions. Talking of lacking original thought Robert…..

      3) “I bet you’re a ” puffed but never inhaled ” kinda guy Mr E .”

      I’ve never smoked at all Bob. You come across as someone with a lifetimes attachment to the really strong stuff though. It’d explain a whole lot.

      4) “Anyway , should you not be in Greenock telling ALBA how to achieve success via the tried and tested Elysian Civic * Nationalism * method .

      Worked a treat in 2014”

      Sadly I couldn’t attend this year. I’ll be watching with interest though. I doubt you’ll get many takers for the “civic nationalism doesn’t work” narrative either within Alba or in the movement more generally. Playing to the crank gallery BTL here isn’t really evidence that ethno nationalism or nativism is suddenly going to become Alba policy.

      I haven’t seen a lot of discussion about it in party forums, but I did see James Kelly of “Scot Goes Pop” specifically rejected the franchise restriction concept in his pitch for an NEC seat. Of course maybe you know differently? Let’s see what comes out of conference hmmmm…?

    82. Andy Ellis says:

      @Charles Hodgson 4.17 pm

      And yet you feel the need to defend yourself on someone else’s behalf with playground threats and abuse.

      Yeah, you’re a real asset to the movement mate.

    83. wee monkey says:

      Hatuey says:

      “11 September, 2021 at 10:32 am

      Quote :_ “I have no problem with vaccine passports in themselves, the idea that government can compel people to get vaccinated, or any sacred principles being violated as a result. I’d happily watch them drop molten lava on anti-vaxxers if there was a compelling enough, life-saving, argument for doing so.

      The truth is the passports won’t make a bit of difference. Delta is running riot now, and nothing can stop it. As we go into winter and the weather deteriorates, and all the colleges as universities go back, etc., we are going to see an explosion of cases. I fully expect them to bring in some sort of lockdown again when that happens.”

      Watch this. Be Afraid.

      Taster…corona was patented in April 2002 [by Pfizer] as the vector for a nationwide[US] HIV inoculation program..

    84. Charles Hodgson says:

      YOU are what is wrong with Scotland – nay, the world – right now, you puffed up f*cking fascist coward.
      I KNEW you’d chicken out. Offer remains open nonetheless, pansy.
      “Squawk!”

    85. Charles Hodgson says:

      For avoidance of doubt – above again directed at Cockroach Ellis.

    86. James Che. says:

      J.o.e.

      If I did it it would change the fuckwits out of their office.

    87. Robert Graham says:

      Well ALBA must be scaring a lot of people both unionist and the fraudulent SNP because their livestream is attracting so many of them yeah pile in guys it increases the numbers

    88. holymacmoses says:

      Alba Conference has a great atmosphere

    89. Tannadice Boy says:

      Great start to the Alba Conference. Right balance between slickness and friendliness. Well done to Grousebeater and Marion Brown. Salmond looking back to his confident best. My conclusion it’s a gamechanger.

    90. James Che. says:

      Andy Ellis.
      We were asked personally by Alex himself to join as a member.
      Before the last election.:-)

    91. Ruby says:

      OMG Andy Ellis is received even more abuse than I did.

      What did Andy say to cause Charles Hodgson to explode?

    92. Andy Ellis says:

      @Ruby 5.02 pm

      Puffed up balloons like him usually deflate fastest Ruby.

      It’d almost be worth it to have him up on a charge. 🙂

    93. James Che. says:

      Andy Ellis.

      Not quite so Radom as you think

    94. Andy Ellis says:

      @James Che 5.00 pm

      Great, since you’re personal acquaintances, you can ask him what he thinks of the plans to restrict the franchise, and how he feels about members being called infiltrators by online anonymous cowards!

    95. holymacmoses says:

      Did anyone watch the SNP?

    96. J.o.e says:

      @Breeks

      A few quotes from your comment at 2:22pm

      ‘Never say never, but the SNP’s problems all stem from Sturgeon’s weak and ineffective non-leadership.’

      ‘weak leadership’s inability to reign in that very interference’

      ‘I actually think Sturgeon is about as genuine and sincere about GRA reform as she was once “genuine” about Scottish Independence’

      ‘ I think we grassroots Independentists have about a year to kill or cure the SNP, boot Sturgeon into orbit, and see whether the SNP has any contribution to make to help’

      ‘hopefully they can be persuaded to keep their traps shut and hold in their venom’

      ‘The SNP I fear will remain dysfunctional until it comes under new management’

      Your post appears to lay blame for the course taken by the SNP on the incompetence of the current leadership.

      Can I ask you on your thoughts about the fact that the most unpopular (and insane) policies the SNP has actually pushed matches the same policies, proposed or actual, of most other governments in the western world?

      Is it possible this is more than just coincidence?

      If it’s more than just coincidence then can that mean there is some sort of high level cooperation on such policies, an ‘agenda’ if you will?

      Could that also mean that the source of our current political direction is not in fact the current SNP government but is a much broader effort to influence politics?

      Is that possible in your mind?

      I ask as someone who called our exact political circumstances at this moment years ago, based on the idea that the SNP were a party captured by larger interests whose worldview can be seen in action by many other world governments.

    97. Ruby says:

      ‘Vaccine passports harm principle of government by consent in this country.

      Vaccines are vital but a free society should never compel its citizens to receive medical treatment.’ Cole Hamilton,

      Is not agreeing with the above what caused Charles Hodgson to flip?

      One thing Andy missed was

      “The Mental Health Act

      In most cases when people are treated in hospital or another mental health facility, they have agreed or volunteered to be there. You may be referred to as a voluntary patient.

      But there are cases when a person can be detained, also known as sectioned, under the Mental Health Act (1983) and treated without their agreement.”

      Is Cole Hamilton opposed to ‘The Mental Health Act’ or does he say any old rubbish without giving it much though?

    98. James Che. says:

      But….but…..Andy you are the one who’s been telling everyone how deeply entrenched you have been since day one as founder member, boasting and throwing it around this site,

      I am one of the ones that has watched you from the sidelines, spin you’re speil and authority,

      Work on yore Claim as founding member. Go ask him yer sel if you are so important, all I have to do is let loose for those to read your comments and attitude on here towards the mixed independence community.

    99. J.o.e says:

      ‘Great, since you’re personal acquaintances, you can ask him what he thinks of the plans to restrict the franchise, and how he feels about members being called infiltrators by online anonymous cowards!’

      I’ll happily debate Alex Salmond, or Rev Stu on the issue and I would win.

    100. James Che. says:

      Breeks.
      Thanks for the reminder of Alba party conference today,
      I may have missed it, as someone in spouses family passed away last week, and their daughter has been staying with us until yesterday.
      Today was breathing space,
      Much appreciated, thanks.

    101. James Che. says:

      The conference was a breath of fresh air, it had the quality and essence of the marches,
      Inclusive politics, made my day.

    102. James Che. says:

      Robert Graham.

      😉

    103. Ottomanboi says:

      Hypochondria aka health anxiety has been weaponized by the political class. Fear of «mystery disease» feeds the rumour mongers, the superspreaders of misinformation, thus softening up the citizens for draconian initiatives.
      The process has been well trialled by all totalitarian and authoritarian systems, the Nazis depicted east European Jews as «unhealthy». The unvaccinated are being presented in a similar light.
      Vax passports will divide the pure from the impure and the rest will inevitably end in repression.
      In a climate of fear repression may become acceptable to the many.
      This is the path that politicians have chosen for us.

    104. Ruby says:

      holymacmoses says:
      11 September, 2021 at 5:13 pm
      Did anyone watch the SNP?

      Reply

      Have you tried the Dogger’s site?

      I just saw a few headlines on The Scotsman and read some shite about She/Her claiming woke is a pejorative term & she refuses to label she/herself woke.

    105. James Che. says:

      Ruby,
      For fun.

      Under the mental health act?

      As far as most people can see, the people whom are running the country seem to be those that have escaped from the asylum.

      Which nutters decide whom the other nutters are.

    106. twathater says:

      TBQH I would like to see Breeks apply for office in ALBA as I think he has a grasp of policies and feelings that would be advantageous to our people and country

    107. Hatuey says:

      Wee monkey, I know that you know patented doesn’t means invented; and coronaviruses have probably been with us since God put the whole shit-show together.

      I notice some of the plebeians are threatening violence on here today. As well as being all this, I happen to be something of an expert when it comes to the martial arts and such, and could probably square go you all at once…FACT!

      Anyway, apologies for the “molten lava” thing. It’s hard to imagine how you’d drop molten lava from an aircraft with any degree of accuracy. Apart from the difficulty of finding something to carry it in whilst keeping it molten, I expect it would most likely turn to rock as it fell, unless you dropped it from quite a low level which would make targeting almost impossible.

      I’m officially retracting the “molten lava” thing.

    108. Andy Ellis says:

      @James Che 5.21 pm

      I simply stated a fact James. Unlike you I haven’t sat on the sidelines waiting, I joined on day 1. I’s not a boast, or a spiel, nor am I claiming any authority: I’m just an ordinary member. However unlike some others in here I don’t feel entitled to tell the party that some of its members are “infiltrators” because they had the temerity to disagree with them online.

      If I bump in to Alex I’ll be sure to ask him what he thinks: unlike you I don’t know him personally.

    109. Breeks says:

      J.o.e says:
      11 September, 2021 at 5:15 pm

      …If it’s more than just coincidence then can that mean there is some sort of high level cooperation on such policies, an ‘agenda’ if you will?

      Could that also mean that the source of our current political direction is not in fact the current SNP government but is a much broader effort to influence politics?

      Well, yes and no.

      Do I think there’s a global phenomenon, call it Capitalism, Neo-Liberalism, Disaster Capitalism? Yes, without any doubt, there is a phenomenon, but it’s pretty elusive ethereal, and there’s a massive overlap which includes more basic “greeds” like exploitation, colonialism, and ahem, “influence”. Where does one stop and another start?

      But these “greeds” can be kept in check, at least to a degree. Most countries have a degree of sophistication which defends them from exploitation.

      The problem is where a country is vulnerable, whether it’s government is disrupted by war for example, or where a nation’s government has become corrupt, or is gullible and weak, that these “greeds” can sniff out an opportunity to exploit that weakness.

      There’s a parasitic element to the exploitation. Make their job easy, and the parasites move in, in strength. Show them a government which is strong and resolute, and the parasites will keep looking for a softer target.

      Believe it or not, I watched The Cheviot, The Stag, and The Black, Black Oil a few days ago, and it struck me how crass the American Oil Companies were to Scottish workers. On one rig, one of the roughnecks explained the men were expected to work 12 hours on and 12 hours off, but simply lie down on the deck to go to sleep. Somehow, I can’t see Norwegian workers being treated like that. (Though maybe they were).

      It’s not black and white either. I think sometimes there is a code of dishonour between these rogues and parasites, where the rogues in one country will respect the territory of rogues in another country.

      But where a country has no rogues to defend itself, it becomes prey to both hostiles. Like espionage for example. There might be a stand-off where two nations agree not to spy on each other, but where, in Scotland’s case, Scotland has no security service to protect it’s interests, hostile influences will have free reign. This often end up with proxy wars, where for example Communism would fund one movement in a third country while the West would back another, and the poor country is squeezed in the middle.

      Say for example big Pharma from the US is the driving force behind all the transgender bullshit, do you honestly the UK Security Services are going to interfere when a weak and feckless Scottish Administration is crucified for it’s naivety and gullibility? Within reason, I believe they’d sit back and let it happen.

      Bearing in mind the SNP is seen as hostile by the UK Government, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if these big Pharma rogues and parasites were even given a push in the right direction… but that’s tin foil hat conspiracy speculation. It’s not speculation however to observe that Scotland has zero protection in place to defend itself from exploitation from within the UK.

    110. James Che. says:

      Andy Ellis.

      That is a good idea.

    111. holymacmoses says:

      Ruby says:
      11 September, 2021 at 5:41 pm
      holymacmoses says:
      11 September, 2021 at 5:13 pm
      Did anyone watch the SNP?

      Reply

      Have you tried the Dogger’s site?

      Hi Ruby – I’ve tried nowhere – just wondered if anyone else had. I was carded for Greenock but Covid has put the barriers up for me so I’ve watched online

    112. Ruby says:

      It was very touching watching Nadira Murray reading out Craig’s words.

      She spoke really well.

      It brought a tear to my eye.

      Does anyone know the boys name?

      He was very cute & so was his fancy tie.

    113. J.o.e says:

      @Breeks

      I appreciate the answer however I find it insufficient to explain the US, Canada, NZ, Australia and many states in Europe having a very similar approach to the transgender issue and other critical theory inspired dogma.

      They have adopted the Multicultural TM, Diversity TM, Inclusivity TM brands while approaching the immigration issue with open borders and harsh reactions to critics.

      I would also repeat that based on these, and other, similarities I was able to call out the SNP before anybody else on this blog and I was right about how they would use ‘woke’ policies to split the independence support and cause infighting – at a time when only a minority had even some slight doubts about Sturgeon.

      My position was that the major parties are basically on the same side – which is observable in that if I had been Scottish Conservative leader (for example) in the last election I pretty much could have sunk the SNP in 1 week by focusing hard on the their policies and strongly opposing them. Which never happened. The narrative was always ‘oppose independence’, never much word about ‘oppose the stripping of womens rights’ on campaign material.

      My position on this has proven predictive track record. Its not ethrial or elusive – its pretty much in your face.

      People who do not look at this are going to commit the same mistake they did a few years ago by taking Scottish politics at face value. This time there will be no excuses.

    114. Ruby says:

      James Che. says:
      11 September, 2021 at 5:55 pm
      Ruby,
      For fun.

      Under the mental health act?

      As far as most people can see, the people whom are running the country seem to be those that have escaped from the asylum.

      Which nutters decide whom the other nutters are.

      Reply

      Has there every been a time in the past when a First Minister has been removed from office under ‘The Mental Health Act’ or will She/Her be the first?

    115. James Che. says:

      Ruby,
      Hahaa,

      Bought a smile to my face.
      Why not, we seem to be the first with everything else.

    116. Pixywine says:

      https://www.bitchute.com/video/L9P3fqQ4K472/
      Watch this barn storming speech

    117. James Che. says:

      A lot of them were first time speakers, all of them did really well,

      It was nice to see Nadira,s son supporting his mum.

      There was only really one gentleman whom didn’t get the full support of the delegates and speakers,

    118. Pixywine says:

      Sturgeon might be the 1st Scottish Minister to be tried for crimes against Humanity. Remember the Nuremberg Code Sturgeon.

    119. willie says:

      And so from next month it will be an offence punishable with by a £5,000 fine or a year in jail for being unauthorizedly in the public grounds or ponds around Hollyrood.

      When a parliament builds walls around its leaders then that is the start of the end.

      Soon it will be armed protection. Blacked out cars. A ring of steel wherever the leaders go, for they and the people can not meet. No longer part of the people and with a police force to keep people away from them, people will come to despise and hate their political class.

      But will it keep them safe. Well I for one very much doubt it because they will need police protection all of the time. And their are now noises about arming the police with side arms.

      This is a very sad development.

      And looking not so far back, someone else who was very unpopular once had a lucky escape and to which the perpetrators said that they had been unlucky this time, but that she needs to be lucky all the time.

      Let us trust that it never ever comes to this.

    120. Andy Ellis says:

      It strikes me as a bit ironic that the Scottish Parliament’s Corporate Body chose the texts to be carved on the Canongate Wall, and included this from Walter Scott:

      “..when we had a king, and a chancellor, and parliament-men o’ our ain, we could aye peeble them wi’ stanes when they werena gude bairns – But naebody’s nails can reach the length o’ Lunnon.”

      Perhaps someone should suggest having that quote removed given the recent decision to ban protests outside the new home of our parliament-men?

    121. willie says:

      Aside of Sturgeon building a wall and a ring of steel around the parliament in what is now becoming a siege mentality it is difficult not to see a similar separation from the people whereby her Party’s conferences are now restricted to online telecasts.

      Yes, the people and their parliament are most certainly now diverging.

    122. Breeks says:

      J.o.e says:
      11 September, 2021 at 6:58 pm
      @Breeks

      I appreciate the answer however I find it insufficient to explain the US, Canada, NZ, Australia and many states in Europe having a very similar approach to the transgender issue and other critical theory inspired dogma.

      They have adopted the Multicultural TM, Diversity TM, Inclusivity TM brands while approaching the immigration issue with open borders and harsh reactions to critics.

      I’m trying to explain it all J.o.e, I don’t know enough. I’m trying to describe it as a weed that’s a grow anywhere, invasive species variety, but it needs to find a crack in the road in which to germinate.

    123. James Che. says:

      NS being a cake short of a picnic, while the other members seem to have nothing up in the attic, worries a lot of us.

      Nuremberg code could easily be at breaking point.

    124. James Che. says:

      Andy Ellis,
      Well spotted.
      Certainly not compatible.

    125. James Che. says:

      So do we withhold our taxes for the public funded building we are not publicly allowed near,
      Just a crazy thought process.

    126. James Che. says:

      It’s been good to have some free time for the first time in ages and read everyone comments,
      I am making the most of it today for a short time as my own mum is quite ill.
      Thanks for comments, enjoyed them all,
      Might take a break tomorrow though.

    127. Tinto Chiel says:

      Now that Caudilla Sturgeon has engineered her exclusion zone around Holyrood, I’m hoping she has inevitably engendered there her Timisoara moment, like this:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWIbCtz_Xwk

      It all begins to fall apart at about 2.45, FYI.

    128. Al-Stuart says:

      .
      Chris, thank you for the reminder that the Lib-Dems are an utter waste of (a very small) space.

      Many here asked Alex Salmond to come out of retirement and save us from the dreadful, toxic, Nicola Sturgeon and her woke-captured, corrupt clique at the centre of the current Scottish Executive.

      Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed Nicola Sturgeon seems a bit more serious about Scottish Independence recently?

      I smell the aroma of rodent. In fact…

      Mark my words, Nicola will BIG UP her profile (and costs) relating to IndyRef
      2 for ONE REASON and one reason only.

      When Portly Murrell has his collar felt by a police officer for alleged clandestine possession/misuse of £600,000 in money that does not belong to him or his wife, Nicola needs to point to the (inflated) £600,000 that her dodgy accountants will say has been spent on “ringfenced” YES IndyRef2 matters during this year.

      Anyone else smell the same rat with Sturgeon’s newly reinvigorated APPEARANCE of her being an IndyRef2 supporter following 7 years of ignoring IndtRef2?

      By the time a senior cop at Polis Scotland either grows a spine or realises they are in line for charges of malfeasance in public office, Teflon Turd-geon will have her alibi ready.

      In the words the dodgy lawyer who has been over-promoted to the position of our current First Minister, Sturdgeon will say (with a brass-neck) that the £600,000 was spent this year on the ring-fenced items and that neither she nor Pot-Bellied Murrell are guilty of anything.

      NICOLA WILL BLUSTER… “NO CASE TO ANSWER”.

      Hopefully before the crapola hits the fanola of those £600,000 fan-blades, enough folk will have finally seen through Sturgeon and see her for the narcissistic power-mad psychopathic nut job she actually is.

      By that point, the MEDIA BLACKOUT that tried to kill off the…

      https://www.albaparty.org

      … in the last election will not work a second time.

      I reckon the Alba Party will replace the LibDems in Chris Cairns ‘toon and then overtake the Woke-SNP in order to restore Scotland to a country where journalists are NOT jailed on highly questionable charges by a sheriff who really should have recused herself.

    129. David Caledonia says:

      Peaceful protest cannot be banned, it would be interesting to see what would happen if thousands of people lined the pavements with banners saying all marches should be banned as they disrupt people going about their daily business as an oronge walk or AOH walk was in progress

      When the marchers turned on the peaceful protesters on the pavements whose side will the police be on ?

    130. @James Che,

      hope things go well with your mum,

      Rudyard Kipling

      “God could not be everywhere, and therefore he made mothers.”

    131. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Tinto Chiel (8.53) –

      I remember you posting that link, years ago, and being blown away by it.

      By all accounts, today’s Alba conference went very well.

      No doubt our FM will have been watching it very closely – not the sort of thing you can trust underlings to do properly!

      Squeaky-bum time in Bute Hoose!

    132. President Xiden says:

      OK, what joker in Government signed off ‘TRNST ( Transmit) as the first major festival after lockdown? ?

    133. Tinto Chiel says:

      @Ian B 9.56: “Squeaky-bum time in Bute Hoose!”

      If only, me old haricot. I suspect she thinks she is untouchable, given the forces arrayed at her back.

      And could Scotland ever produce such a throng to put the skids under her?

      I think that if she considers we could manage such a thing, there would be more restrictions whenever she saw fit. She already has announced that she wants to arrogate these powers to herself.

      Of course, there may be a spontaneous reaction from women who won’t wheesht and various scunnered parties who just won’t take it any more, like Peter Finch’s character:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WINDtlPXmmE

    134. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Tinto Chiel (10.37) –

      I don’t do The Facebook, but if The Twitter is anything to go by then Nicola may be in a spot of bother.

      Not electorally, or imminently, aye, but two big things from the Alba conference seem to stick out – support for Women Won’t Wheest, and support for a Scottish Republic.

      Big cheers in the hall, and big support on The Twitter, people feeling really upbeat, getting back in the saddle, keen to campaign and march again etc.

      If the FM is quizzed on these issues at all, tomorrow or beyond, she’ll surely come out with something like, ‘I’m not going to stand here and pretend that (insert Alba policy here) isn’t important, but these are extraordinary times and I have to steer the country through…’ blady-blah ad fuckin nauseum.

      How much longer can the WGD faithful thole her pishery? ‘Covid permitting’ already sounds very hollow indeed.

    135. Tinto Chiel says:

      I think Nickla also has her “not valid” multipurpose defence.

      Btw, your use of “thole” marks you out as a nativist, Baird-loving freak so don’t expect any support from me 😉 .

      Mofftaemapit.

    136. James Che. says:

      Scott finlayson.

      Thanks for those kind words, I will keep them with me.
      She is in the last stage of cancer, but her mind is sharp as a tack,

      One of the reasons we have to fight for the choice to say no to vaccines for people to die in peace without further chemicals in their body against their will or wellfare.

      She has been offered pain relief in the way of morphine, but so far has said no not yet. Tough old lady.

      Raised eight children, washed clothes and blankets by hand, walked to the shops three miles away, and worked the Croft when our dad had long days at work,

      Then I listen to gender self ID, intrusions into the home, hate crime bill, stealing the and the raping of children minds, and not allowed to say boo to politicians or go near where they work for us.

      And I could shake some common sense into the lot of them,

      Or as my dad used to say you need your heads knocking together, because there doesn’t seem much up there that could be damaged.
      However for mum It’s a matter of time now, six months to six days depends if she hemorhages.

      Fight for the rights of mums, of mothers sisters daughters and granddauters.
      But remember boys, young adults and men’s rights too, let’s not go extremist , just a good balance will do.

      One funeral this week and one on the horizon is hard going, for all those in a similar position, stay strong, god did indeed make mums.

      Thanks Scott,

    137. Pixywine says:

      https://www.bitchute.com/video/KxfnNWQ2TN9r/
      “Squeaky bun time in Bute House” sounds like fun.

    138. Pixywine says:

      Bun? Bun? Ah fuck it.

    139. Papko says:

      Emma Raducanu is the US Open champion, the British qualifier has done it!

      Wow, wow, wow. A fairytale, a dream, call it what you like this is just remarkable.

    140. Dan says:

      Meanwhile at the SNP Conference She / Her’s Pronoun Appreciation Society get together…

      SNP members vote for the party to support a National Energy Company, despite the party’s leadership not including it in its Programme for Government, and having ditched the idea a few days ago…

      https://twitter.com/thecommongreen/status/1436651510675427331

    141. robert graham says:

      Past midnight so sinders has parked the being nice warm and sunny disposition act .

      These people who either defend or approv the Vax Pass being forced on the people of Scotland because it won’t affect them the I wasn’t a trade unionist ect comes to mind it ends when they came for me and there was no one left to defend me

      One by one restrictions are being applied and applied slowly so as not to scare people it is unrelenting . fascism doesn’t come dressed up in jack boots and armed to the teeth it’s the constant nudge a bit more each day .

      People like the contributers to WGD are not only stupid and a danger to themselves they are openly assisting in removing everyone’s basic rights therfore a real danger to everyone else don’t they have any basic thought processes going on in their empty fkn heads. Rhetorical .

    142. And spouse says:

      Two party political conferences in Scotland yesterday. No mention on the main BBC website page, nor the Scotland page, nor even the Scottish politics page.

    143. twathater says:

      Hi does anyone know if the SNP SG gave any funding to the TRANSMIT gig in Glesga , previously way back I commented on here when I think it was Rosanna Cunningham as a minister gave the company that runs TRANSMIT something like £90,000 to assist with their move to Glasgow even although they had holdings of £500,000 , I commented at the time that it was ridiculous to give a profit motivated private company ANY public money , what also is suspect is the company is registered in Scotland but it’s directors are English and Irish ,does the company pay TAX in Scotland or England

    144. Geoff Anderson says:

      @ Ian Brotherhood

      A remarkable first day at the ALBA conference. Independence front and centre, A Republic by acclaim, Adult Human Females acknowledged repeatedly, the question of land ownership raised often along with their ongoing influence with the SG.

      …this morning starts with the removal of MWD from Scotland..

      Sooooooooo different from the SNP tramline, leadership cult rallies – We may get our country back yet!

    145. Breeks says:

      Breeks says:
      11 September, 2021 at 2:22 pm

      I actually think Alex Salmond will try to repeat the YES formula of 2014, he’ll embrace reconciliation and strive to make YES 2021 as positive and as broad a Kirk as possible, but within that broad Kirk, I think insubordinate disrupters will find it hard to get any purchase. Alex Salmond will prove yet again what a canny strategist he is.

      Quoting myself I know, but… https://archive.is/A2Ieo

      But on another plain of existence, look at the state of this lowlife trying to get himself some publicity and repeat the smears against Alex Salmond. ..https://archive.is/9sxBh#selection-1553.158-1559.209

      “It was high pressure. I mean, it took up so much oxygen, so much time. But also, I’d been supporting a complainer privately who approached me, and I could see what every twist and turn of it was doing to her.”

      What, for the love of fk, was a member of a Parliamentary Inquiry doing “supporting a complainer privately”? Jesus wept, these cretins have the integrity of worms, but lack their intellect.

      Conflict of interest doesn’t begin to cover it. He was on the investigating committee but in covert liaison with one of the Conspirators! What a fucking bellend.

    146. Breeks says:

      I’m stunned man. I can’t believe it.

      Cole-Hamilton was on the Parliamentary Inquiry, but supporting one of the Complainers privately, that person being one of the Complainers who’s name we’re not allowed to know, and who’s conspiracy and SNP corruption has led to Craig Murray’s imprisonment on trumped up evidence of jigsaw identification.

      Doesn’t this breathtaking revelation/ admission from Cole Hamilton add up to the Parliamentary Inquiry equivalent of jury tampering, and that Inquiry’s conclusion must be considered compromised?

      I am lost for words at the gross incompetence of this, and the scandalous disregard for impropriety.

    147. Breeks says:

      One of the reason’s Sturgeon’s stitch up of Alex Salmond was considered tainted by bias was because the investigating officer had previous contact with one of the complainers / conspirators. And now, by his own admission, one of the investigating officers on the Inquiry Committee has admitted previous contact, and indeed illicit private support for one of the same complainers / conspirators, (for all we know the same one) while the Inquiry was ongoing.

      I hope your lawyers are up early on a Sunday Mr Salmond.

    148. Dan says:

      @ twathater

      Re. The Scottish Administrators of Devolved Powers funding stuff like concerts and festivals.
      This may give you an inkling on how it’s done. Obviously that task is made slightly more difficult due to the good ol’ redactor pen having had an outing…

      https://archive.is/2qR8B

    149. Breeks says:

      Did the Complainer / Conspirator approach Cole-Hamilton, or did Cole-Hamilton approach the Complainer / Conspirator? In what circumstances?

      When?

      Where?

      Who else was present?

    150. Ruby says:

      robert graham says:
      12 September, 2021 at 12:25 am
      One by one restrictions are being applied and applied slowly so as not to scare people it is unrelenting .

      Reply
      WTF are you concentrating on the Vax Pass?

      Most people have been vaccinated so are indifferent re the Vax Pass.

      The most recent restriction was not applied slowly. Application made to Westminster last week and boom restrictions start on 1st October. People are scared very scared and wondering WTF you are ranting on about Vax passports.

      The GRA is not going to be slow either. Many people are aware of what is going to happen and they are scared, very scared. Same applies to the HCB & freedom of speech.

      In the grand scheme of things with all these very scary things happening the ‘Vax Pass’ is of little importance to most people especially because as I said earlier most people have been vaccinated.

      PS Have you considered joining the LibDems?

      Cole Hamilton believes ‘a free society should never compel its citizens to receive medical treatment.’

      The scary thing about that it means the end to ‘The Mental Health Act’

    151. Tannadice Boy says:

      Day 2 of the Alba Conference I hope it is as good as yesterday. If I was a sitting SNP Councillor with the May elections coming up. I would be anxious for my prospects of success. Perhaps we will see more defections to Alba. We could certainly do with some movement amongst SNP MSPs. Some awareness from them re the general situation. Otherwise it will be the People versus Parliament.

    152. Ruby says:

      Breeks says:
      12 September, 2021 at 8:42 am
      Did the Complainer / Conspirator approach Cole-Hamilton, or did Cole-Hamilton approach the Complainer / Conspirator? In what circumstances?

      When?

      Where?

      Who else was present?

      Reply

      This is huge! The last straw?

      The really scary thing about this & all the other ‘last straws’ is that absolutely nothing happens!

    153. Captain Yossarian says:

      @Tannadice Boy – That sounds good. I’m not a Nationalist myself as you know and I doubt if I will ever change. But, I have a lot of time for the opinions of many on here. What we have just now is truly dreadful and something needs to change. Holyrood represents no-one and is full of repulsive folk and crooks. Good luck to Salmond. The public need to get behind him again and so too do the press (that will be the hard bit).

    154. Breeks says:

      Did Cole-Hamilton know the identity of one of the Conspirators before he was appointed to the Fabiani Inquiry? If so, did he declare the conflict of interest?

      If Cole-Hamilton didn’t know the identity of the Conspirator before he was approached by them, did he inform the Committee that he’d been approached? If not, why not?

      Were the other members of the Committee approached by any of the Conspirators?

      I’ve suddenly got lots of questions for Mr Cole-Hamilton to answer.

    155. Andy Ellis says:

      @Breeks 8.05 & 8.18 am

      Hear, hear! Even if what Cole-Hamilton did wasn’t technically a breach of the rules or regulations of the committee, it was certainly a huge conflict of interest and absolutely immoral. It only reinforces my long held belief that he’s a no-mark who has managed to get where he is because the LD’s have such a limited talent pool.

      How could any reasonable person not see the potential conflict of interest involved when one of the complainers contacted you personally, or feel that it was your place – never mind appropriate – to provide support to one of them?

      It simply demonstrates that the process itself was deeply flawed. The inquiry should have been independent and judge-led: the involvement of SNP and unionist MSPs who were politically (and you have to suspect personally) hostile to Alex Salmond was bad enough, but this revelation is just astounding. I hope Mr Salmond’s lawyers are taking note.

    156. John Main says:

      Ruby

      Don’t know if I should be scared, very scared, or something else, cos I don’t know what a “boom restriction” is.

      I like your concerns about Mental Health legislation though. In the bad old days of the Soviet Union, disagreement with any aspect of official policy was deemed evidence of mental illness. Made the cancelling of dissidents quick and efficient for the state. I guess that you should advocate a similar approach for our own antisocial malcontents. Start with the popular ones we all love to hate.

      Vaccination questioners would be ideal.

    157. Tannadice Boy says:

      @Captain Yossarian 8:56am
      Cheers. For seemingly years I have been frustrated by the machinations and crookery of Holyrood. I am feeling really positive for the first time in ages. I know some of speakers that spoke yesterday. I didn’t even know they were now in Alba. Covid shutdown everyone’s political radar. Times are a changing. And not before time for the betterment of all of the people of Scotland.

    158. Dan says:

      Tannadice Boy says: at 8:48 am

      …Otherwise it will be the People versus Parliament.
      Aye, but awfy handy for some said Parliament is soon to have an exclusion zone in place to defend it from those pesky protesters…
      Which is rather ironic, as it was highlighted yesterday at the Alba Conference that it was just a few years back that the HOOP (Hands Off Our Parliament) Event had crowds of folk forming a chain around the building defending it and protesting against Westminster’s power grabbing exploits.

    159. Ruby says:

      We need a good investigative journalists with a large readership to write about Cole-Hamilton.

      Enlisting the help of Gordon Dangerfield would be good.

      Does anyone know anyone who could do the job?

      It must get boring just looking out for bears, feeding the squirrels & eating sweeties!

      Knowing what we know now about Cole-Hamilton it might be worth re-visiting the enquiry to listen to Cole-Hamilton’s many question about talk around the ‘water cooler’

    160. Ruby says:

      John Main says:
      12 September, 2021 at 9:05 am
      Ruby

      Don’t know if I should be scared, very scared, or something else, cos I don’t know what a “boom restriction” is.

      Reply

      Fuck off smart ass!

    161. J.o.e says:

      I have decided not to take any party or politician at all seriously until they at least make even a hesitant criticism of the covid narrative. In fact I have decided not to waste my time listening to any of them until I know they have made at least a small attempt.

      Not the handling of covid (i.e when the lockdowns should have happened etc). Not the dangers of covid. But to point out the inconsistencies around the entire narrative.

      Can anyone tell me if this was even touched on at the Alba conference? Or has any of the senior Alba members even touched on it ever at all?

    162. J.o.e says:

      @Breeks

      Your attempt to describe what has happened consistently as some kind of weed that grows where there is sufficient cracks holds little value for a Scot having an informed view of what the future might hold for the political direction of our country.

      Your description of anything more than that being ‘tin foil hat conspiracy’ is interesting.

      I remember you doing the written equivalent of gaping in shock and disbelief when Sturgeon was finally revealed as a betrayer. Your worldview did very little to help you see what was coming but you are not prepared to take a look at anything else?

      Im not sure what to make of that.

      One thing I do see is that you are extremely comfortable to get right back into stride as if nothing happened, and nothing became obvious, in the last 3 years.

    163. Willie says:

      I see that EE the phone operator despite saying the wouldn’t abandon free calls across the EU are reintroducing daily £2.00 roaming charges.

      Whoopee, the Brexit dividends just keep on a coming.

      Empty supermarket shelves, shortages of major construction materials like cement, steel, plasterboard, medicine shortages, a failing NHS ( that the big red Brexit Money Bus hasn’t sorted,) together with a slumping economy, it is all a rip roaring success.

      But the best of all is the poor old pensioners set to get poorer as their savings erode with inflation and the recently announced restriction on pension increases.

      We should all sing humpity doo dah, humpity dey, my oh my what a wonderful day, as we all bump our gums worthlessly on forums such as this. We are, and I include myself in this but a shower of talking heads.

      So let us sing, sing loudly, and take our humping as men, or is it women, or whatever we now are.

      Otherwise have a fine Sabbath morning.

    164. Ottomanboi says:

      A cast of thousands!
      https://www.thenational.scot/news/19574805.auob-independence-march-stirling-attracts-thousands/
      it seems modern politics is for the old, the very old.
      New model needed.
      More brain, less cloying sentiment.
      Speaking of the latter.
      https://www.thenational.scot/news/19575166.nicola-sturgeon-leads-tributes-young-us-open-champion-emma-raducanu/
      Opportunist!, Moi? «women’s» tennis FM?

    165. Dan says:

      @ J.o.e at 9.32am

      I’ll take supposedly “Pro-Indy” politicians and activists seriously when they stop direct linking to unionist newspaper articles.
      FFS, if they don’t have the wit, basic tech abilities, or discipline to archive articles before tweeting to hundreds or thousands of followers then I seriously doubt their credentials and ability to navigate towards ending the union.

    166. Tinto Chiel says:

      @Dan 9.15: good point about the irony of the HOOPS protest in view of the new Holyrood exclusion zone.

      Mind you, if I remember correctly, the FM ignored the crowd that day and made no appearance at the front of the building.

    167. Ruby says:

      https://www.barrheadboy.com/the-enemy-within-by-dave-llewelyn/

      The Enemy Within. by Dave Llewelyn

      At HOOP we defied Westminster believing that they were the threat to Scotland’s Parliament and her Independence.

      We made a ring around the building to keep Westminster out.

      Little did we realise that the real enemy was already inside our Parliament.

    168. holymacmoses says:

      Breeks says:
      12 September, 2021 at 8:05 am

      Breeks says:
      11 September, 2021 at 2:22 pm

      But on another plain of existence, look at the state of this lowlife trying to get himself some publicity and repeat the smears against Alex Salmond. ..https://archive.is/9sxBh#selection-1553.158-1559.209

      “It was high pressure. I mean, it took up so much oxygen, so much time. But also, I’d been supporting a complainer privately who approached me, and I could see what every twist and turn of it was doing to her.”

      What, for the love of fk, was a member of a Parliamentary Inquiry doing “supporting a complainer privately”? Jesus wept, these cretins have the integrity of worms, but lack their intellect.

      They are also as spineless as worms. They do lack their intellect and also the capacity of the worm to increase the value of the soil once they have digested and excreted it. Does this negate the whole inquiry?

      Sadly Cole -Hamilton appeared, at some points, to be one of the better members of that committee.
      It is interesting that the whole of Holyrood seems to know who these women are and yet the hoi poloi – who found Mr Salmond innocent of the accusations made by these women – are not allowed to be told. These ‘servants’ of the people are, in fact, the controllers of all lies.

      The article is targeted against ALBA this week-end. But I think, yet again, it will prove to be another own goal and Mr Salmond is revealed, yet again, to be the man who has been sinned against.

      Alex is rightly leaving the backstairs folk to create their own downfall. His patience and goodwill towards Scotland and her people appears to have no limits

    169. holymacmoses says:

      How’s the book coming on Mr Wings? I do hope you manage to have it ready for Christmas:-)
      Even more seriously, I hope you’re working on something which will prove to the world just how talented you really are.
      I would like a signed, first of 100, signed edition when it’s published

    170. Republicofscotland says:

      Alba’s Alex Salmond is keen to work with all indy minded parties when a genuine indy campaign begins, the question then must be are the Greens and the SNP keen to work with Alex to get indy across the line, from what we’ve seen so far the answer to that question must be no.

      This may change though if Alba does well at in next years council elections.

      https://archive.is/A2Ieo

    171. Cuilean says:

      Someone I know was an annual Burns Supper speaker. He is very popular & much in demand for his wit and repartee and has spoken at Burns Suppers throughout Scotland. I met him a few weeks ago at my sister’s house. He advised he will no longer be doing any Burns Suppers for fear of the SNP’s Hate Bill. He advised that most other Burns Supper speakers are following suit. They are worried that anyone can complain to the polis, if they were even slightly ‘offended’ by what was said at a Supper, and the speakers would be invited to attend the local polis and end up in the Sheriff Court. What a state the SNP have made of Scotland! Only ever voted SNP apart from Alba which had my 2nd Holyrood this year. From now on, it will only be Alba. SNP MSPs & MPs have decided their wage packets weigh more heavily on their minds than Independence. I can’t even bear to listen to Sturgeon or Blackford on the TV anymore & switch off. Scotland is in a Slough of Political Despond which won’t change for the next 2 years. I don’t even like talking about politics anymore. What is the point? Until the majority of SNP voters realise the great leader is leading them up the garden path, my despair will continue. I just get so angry at the wasted years of destruction. We should be independent by now. All those SNP MPs should hang their heads in shame. They care more for their cushy lifestyle while their countrymen & women are destroyed by the Toris in the English Parliament.

    172. Grouser says:

      This new legislation WILL be used by the Scottish Government – not might, but will.
      Remember Walter Wolfgang? His crime was to shout “Nonsense” during a speech by Jack Straw at the Labour Party Conference in 2005. This 82 year old struck such terror into the hearts of those who heard him that he was huckled out of the hall by security and held under the Anti Terrorism Act.
      This Scottish Government has a record of wanting to control events. It now has the means to do so in a place which ought to be the centre of legitimate protest.

    173. Republicofscotland says:

      On Alex Salmond’s keenness to work with other indy parties to achieve Scottish independence, Salmond the shrewd operator has also noticed that there’s been no movement on the indyfront whatsoever.

      Salmond interview by the National before todays conference (2nd day) did’t miss the National either on its front page “Indy here we come stories”

      “I think it was four years ago that after a press conference Nicola held The National’s headline was ‘game on’,” he said. “Unfortunately that was four years ago and it’s been like groundhog referendum day.”

      “We’ve had, I think, a total of 40 National front pages announcing the referendum was starting – but it’s never started. So the day it genuinely starts then of course all supporters of independence will come together.”
      The First Minister has said she wants indyref2 by the end of 2023, Covid permitting, with independence in 2026 if there is a Yes vote.”

    174. Robert Hughes says:

      What part of * vicious , monomaniac , close-minded narcissist * is Alex Salmond not getting ?

      It may be possible to admire his magnanimity and willingness to leave the past behind and unite for the common interest of Independence .

      It’s getting harder to understand why he thinks there is any hope of reciprocity from the Cult

      I’ll continue with my monthly DD to ALBA and vote for them whenever the opportunity arises but agree with J.O.E ….

      The sight of ALBA heid yins on the podium masked-up , conforming to New Abnormal orthodoxy doesn’t inspire confidence they will present much of a challenge to the prevailing idiocy .

    175. Tannadice Boy says:

      Vintage Tommy Sheridan. Alba are establishing a broad church. As other contributors on here have suggested. Alex Salmond has his finger on the pulse of mainstream Scottish opinion. To adopt a phrase, used sometime ago, Things can only get better.

    176. Cuilean says:

      Robert Hughes.

      Reply

      Alex isn’t speaking to publicly elected SNP members. He is speaking to the voters. The voters who, will one day see through the SNP and then give their vote to Alba.

      He had me at ‘Republic’.

    177. radgie gadgie says:

      During the NATO bombardment of Libya in 2011, Gadafi, who we were told was hated by his people, drove round Tripoli in an open-topped car for 2 hours, revisiting the same areas repeatedly. The crowds just got larger, louder and more adoring.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jqf4bWGvd08

      By way of contrast, Sturgeon, who we are told is loved by Scots, feels the need to make it a punishable offence for the public to go within shouting distance of the Scottish Parliament Building.

    178. Ottomanboi says:

      There is a chasm between being independence minded and independence pro-active.
      Scottish nationalism is stuck in a rut. The indie minded just make that rut deeper.
      Essentially, the wrong guys are operating the machinery.
      If these people want my post millennial generation to get interested more than cosmetic make over is required. Could start by politicians, of all persuasions, being less inclined to gaze up their own fundaments.
      You ain’t that special guys!

    179. Willie says:

      Too right Grouser @10.44. The new legislation to create exclusion zones around Hollyrood will be used against people lawfully trying to assemble or march in protest.

      But the law is already being used against opposition. Yes we all know about Alex Salmond, Mark Hirst and Craig Murray. But less know about Sean Clerkenwell who received a dawn raid at his house in Barrhead weeks after he had stood in sole protest outside Glasgow airport decrying English immigration. Seems he was contravening local by laws not to advertise in the vicinity of the airport.

      Or Manny Singh jailed for a month. And his Crime was to organise and agree arrangements with the Police for one of Scotland’s biggest ever marches for thereafter the SNP councillors requiring at short notice an earlier start which would have disrupted and indeed precluded people from all over Scotland travelling to attend the 10.00am kick off. And his punishment for allowing the perfectly peaceful and fully agreed and stewarded March to proceed – was prosecution and a month in Barlinnie.

      And Marion Millar, an independence supporter and women’s rights activist. What is her prosecution about. The police and prosecution boots are now well established and stamping on faces.

      Sturgeon may be building her wall, but she will I suspect need her wall, twenty four hours a day, day after day. This is no longer consensual governance by people elected to represent the people. Sturgeon is a bad nasty egg. Her coterie are exactly the same and they are playing with fire.

      The worm, and by worm, I mean all of us, will ultimately turn. Game on as Sturgeon headlined in the National some time back. Game on indeed.

    180. Robert Graham says:

      Eh o/t that’s if there was a Topic in the first place .

      I imagine princess Nicola might just be having a uncomfortable breakfast this morning , just when she thought it was safe to come out suddenly the sand is shifting beneath her feet.

      The smug comments from WGD fairies might just come back and bite them on the arse , comments like ALEX and ALBA are dead in the water they have no support Nicola is up in the polls the SNP are flying high etc the sheer hatred for ALBA as a party and what they represent is not what ordinary Scots want Aye well time will tell ladies .

      Two distinct differences are emerging this morning that sets Nicolas plans a odds with Bawjaws government in England firstly Vax passports are not being introduced in England and this GRA legislation has been given a body swerve in England also .

      Your move Princess Nicola , do you still believe the polls and what’s more do you feel lucky ? .and are you determined to press ahead with your plans supported by your new green friends this dispite growing opposition from women and women’s groups who by your own admittance don’t matter .

    181. David Caledonia says:

      The rules state that you have to be masked up, Sturgeon was at a funeral reception in a pub unmasked up, the police would not just arrive at an Abba Doo and tell them to put their masks on, they would probably arrest them for a few hours to disrupt the proceedings
      Alex and Alba are wiley old foxes, they have been at the sharp end of the dirty tricks these people play, these people will have you arrested and then a few hours later apologise for a misunderstanding and set you free, but their objective was reached, the Doo did not take place

    182. James Che. says:

      Ruby,

      I feel the same about those willing to take free choice and liberties away from Scots.
      over imposed, enforcing vaccines on people and passports with everything but a yellow star on them,

      Freedom means freedom, independence includes independence in mind, of body, and spirit. Of country.

      What use is a restricted freedom,
      Rights and liberties in a new Scotland need protecting from government totalitarian orders,

      If someone does not like you personally in the future, they can accuse you of being mentally ill.

      This is no different from history that’s past,
      Wether it was accusations against ordinary people charged with being Witches, that got hunted down.

      Or wether you had a yellow star or a brand marked on your arm in the last war,

      Sorry I am not agreeing with anyone going down this mental illness path to a totalian state looking for new whiches to burn.

    183. Captain Yossarian says:

      @radgie gadgie – A good point. I think that Gadaffi was the leader Libya needed at the time. Time moved-on and some young folk in Libya (not that many) thought they could do better with a different kind of government. It didn’t work-out and it didn’t work out in Egypt or Tunisia either. I get your comparison with Scotland at the moment.

    184. James Che. says:

      I will not be the one circle my arms around the enemy within to have totalitarian restrictions on the Scottish people from government overreach.

    185. David Caledonia says:

      I am a pensioner and I am doing very well on my pension thank you very much, and every other pensioner I know is doing very well, so anyone saying things like the poor pensioners is talking crap
      What does a pensioner pay for, electric, gas, food, go to a footbank so food costs are minimal, my house is paid for, but if I did not own my house all I pay is 20 quid a month for water rates which I pay anyway as an owner, and ofc free travel and free prescriptions, free this and free that, and I have the best part of 2 hundred quid in my pocket every week, poor, we have never had it so good, I left school and was earning 5 quid a week for 40 fecking hours, by the time I paid my keep I was left with my bus fair to work for the coming week and a packet of golden virginia to keep me sane

      Poor pensioners, like me you mean, your avving a laff lol

    186. David Caledonia says:

      And I have nothing to do, and all day to do it in

      Its a hard life being a pensioner, right enough lol

    187. Pixywine says:

      https://www.bitchute.com/video/s3FXYW62Gi3M/
      I think the Australian Government is more frightened of the banks than the people.

    188. Pixywine says:

      John Main will NOT be forgotten.

    189. James Che. says:

      David Caledonia.

      I am alright jack,

      We are pensioners, living on one pension between the two of us,

      Of corse there are poor pensioners beyond you’re world.

    190. David Caledonia says:

      How can you accuse someone of being mentally ill without proving that its true
      Sorry the silliness of some comment just defy any type of reason, a population can only be subdued if the people allow it to happen
      I am well aquainted with the people of asia, and from what I have witnessed a vast majority in asia, are like the vast majority here in scotland, they don’t really have much time for politics and just allow things to happen, and in general don’t give a monkeys fart one way or the other
      ,
      Is that a good or bad thing, I would say good, because
      live your life and be as happy as you can be
      I read a lot of ads on youtube, there is this expert on
      crypto crap that wants to tell me how to make 44000 quid
      for every 200 quid I invest, he is making a fortune, his
      words not mine, and he wants me to do the same, all I
      have to do to get all the winner is to subscribe to his
      newsletter, as a very clever and rich man once said, there
      are those that can do it, and there are those that can talk
      about it………….. for a price lol

    191. Pixywine says:

      Edinburgh was reduced to gridlock chaos yesterday because of a middle class fanatical cycling event which none of us residents were warned about. The psychopathic cyclist superannuated school kids are symptomatic of a diseased society whose politicians seek throwback to the 19th century. Many cycling hypocrite have beemer or Mercedes parked on their drive. I’ve seen that in Edinburghs Grange.

    192. James Che. says:

      There are women whom have not received their pension,
      Hence one pension between two is the DWPs position,

      We do not own our house and have to live thriftily.

      There are lots of women suffering poverty, have had to sell their homes to survive, ( waspi women).

      There are a lot of pensioners and pension age people not so financially well off.

    193. Pixywine says:

      I ratrun the Grange regularly and see rich folks wheeling their – fashionable–bikes onto the street while the 3litre BMW is resting on the drive. The hypocracy of the cyclist – who will pay 5 or 6 grande for a pushbike–is typical of all virtue signalling middle class climate fanatics.

    194. Mia says:

      If Sturgeon, her minions and her London masters’ useful idiots operating inside HOlyrood are so desperate to create a sound muffling barrier to protect Sturgeon’s fabricated image from the protests she caused with her foul policies and inactions, this can only mean one thing:

      Those protests have just become far too loud for her and her London masters to ignore.

      Clearly the message this new rushed ruling is sending is:

      “we know we can no longer silence you, so we are pushing you back, far enough to muffle your voice so we can continue pretending to the rest of the world, and specially to ourselves, you are not shouting”.

      That seems the action of a coward who cannot possibly face being made accountable for the responsibility of causing those protests to emerge in the first place. To have 2 greens and a tory doing the dirty work in order to protect the image of a failed pretend pro indy leader, makes this whole thing look even more pathetic.

      That the excuse for this ruling is to bring Holyrood “to the standard of Westminster”, when this failed pretend pro indy leader and the Greens should be pushing hard to separate Holyrood from Westminster instead of bringing them close, tells you all what you need to know about the commitment of the SNP and the Greens’ to real autonomy and independence for Scotland.

      That it is 2 greens and one SNP in cahoots with one tory who passed this, is to me yet another wonderful symptom that the idea Scotland is represented by different political parties is and has always been an illusion. All of them appear to be part of the same team: the political group against Scotland’s independence, against Scotland’s voice, against Scotland’s interests, against distancing Holyrood from Westminster.

      It is more clear than ever that if Sturgeon survives as leader of the SNP and FM when she has under her belt 7 years of failed leadership, failed autonomy progress, failed to protect Scotland’s rights, assets and sovereignty, failing spectacularly to respect democracy and the right to self determination and, by the look of it, using her power to shut dissent, it is because all the other “parties” and the apparatus of the British state are working really hard and together to continuously wash her political image and keep her where she is.

      It is beginning to be clear that these people do not see Holyrood as Scotland’s parliament. They see it as the ultimate bunker where they will hide to avoid listening to the masses they are expected to represent, when putting their fingers on their ears no longer does the job. It seems they see it as the building that will legitimise their foul actions when these are done deliberately against the interests and the will of the people of Scotland.

      It seems that under Sturgeon, Holyrood can no longer pretend it is Scotland’s parliament anymore. Under her it has clearly become another branch of Westminster’s Secretary of State in Scotland.

      By the look of it, the Greens are already busy at they new role as Sturgeon’s official airbrushers. Today they were helping to airbrush legitimate protesters from Holyrood’s papers so she does not have to listen to their complaints, and her London masters can pretend she is still liked. I wonder when the Greens will start scrubbing from Holyrood and Scotland’s courts all the political dirt Sturgeon has invested 7 years in spilling.

    195. Pixywine says:

      I wonder if WGDs tame goons have paid off his/her/It’s mortgage yet? The man’s a bucket.

    196. Ruby says:

      Pixywine says:
      12 September, 2021 at 12:11 pm
      https://www.bitchute.com/video/s3FXYW62Gi3M/
      I think the Australian Government is more frightened of the banks than the people.

      Reply</b

      I got to the bit where he talks about shortage of food choices in the UK – and says 'welcome to communism folks'

      and decided to waste no more time on that video.

    197. Pixywine says:

      How can any Nationalist square their vote for Sturgeon in the light of what we know about her.

    198. Pixywine says:

      Ruby. You are typical of the Government agent who tries to right off a video after a few moments. You can’t bring yourself to watch listen and think.
      What Max means by communism is communism for the masses and crony Capitalism for the Politburo. You can equate today’s Politburo with the criminal banking cartels.
      When I witnessed people standing in an unnecessary queue to get into an empty shop, ostensibly for health reasons, it looked so like a scene from the Great Soviet Scialust dreams of the past. Communism for the people and a nice jet setting lifestyle for the leadership.

    199. Pixywine says:

      Lumi lumi. When you mentioned me in one of your recent messages you insulted me and then feigned exasperation when I gave you some of your own medicine in return. I would be very surprised if you actually are Finnish because Ive always understood them to be a proud Independent common sense sort of people with a very healthy approach to gun culture. Some of your Heroes are almost mythical in the minds of amateur historians such as myself. What happened to you?

    200. Breeks says:

      I think we are missing the point.

      If they ban protest from Holyrood, then we protest ten times harder, ten times more often, and in numbers they cannot suppress. They cannot jail all of us. We will get ourselves elected to Holyrood and protest from the innermost sanctum. What will they do then?

    201. Dan says:

      @ Pixywine at 12.32pm

      Song about cyclists for you. (contains plenty swearing)

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgCqz3l33kU

      But as a keen two wheeled enthusiast, I’m just back from a 10 mile mtb ride.
      I have many bikes due to hoarding stuff, but on this occasion I was using an old piece of shit junker retro classic GT I got out of a skip. Resurrecting / Resuscitating bikes is quite a regular occurrence for me now because human’s appear to have evolved to the point they can’t work out how to pump a tyre with a smartphone…

    202. Merganser says:

      All the comments on this blog (and others) which are critical of Sturgeon and Holyrood are 100% justified but more is needed to change the perception of people who for whatever reason are not interested in what is going on.

      I believe the only way forward is for all the facts of the ‘Salmond Affair’ to be made public to reach the very much wider population than followers of these blogs.

      To have any validity this must be done via a legal route, not by release of information on overseas internet sites or by (mis)using Parliamentary Privilege.

      I have spent many hours pondering how this could be done. I seem to recall Gordon Dangerfield recommending this route, and I believe Craig Murray was pursuing it before his incarceration.

      This is of such importance it should not be left to an individual to take on, particularly if the individual was close to the matter such as Alex Salmond or Craig.

      My consideration of such possibilities as Judicial Review or Officium Nobile have not been particularly productive, and I am rather too old and poor (don’t mention the word ‘wee’ or I’ll have to go) to go campaigning on such a battle, but there must be sufficient interest in at least exploring the legal route, if there is one, to reveal what has gone on.

      I have written this following the revelation of the member of the Fabiani that he was not independent because of his position with one of the complainants. Did he tell the other members of this relationship? Were other members giving support to other complainants?

      At the very least one member has shown he was ‘tainted by bias’
      by his own admission, although he doesn’t seem to understand the impropriety of what he has done. If this has tainted the whole committee, especially if they knew about his relationship with this complainant, it looks like there may be a legal route here to explore.

    203. Ruby says:

      Pixywine says:
      12 September, 2021 at 12:56 pm
      Ruby. You are typical of the Government agent who tries to right off a video after a few moments. You can’t bring yourself to watch listen and think.

      Reply

      I did watch listen & think. When he started talking about this article

      https://archive.is/80F3o

      and said ‘Welcome to Communism’
      I thought WTF?

      Has the guy never heard of Brexit.

      He doesn’t need to worry about food shortages in the UK the shelves will be jam packed with Aussie beef & lamb.

      Tell your pal Max that the worry in ‘Brexit Britain’ is lack of choice ie plenty cheap Aussie meat products & chlorinated chicken and zero Scottish beef & lamb.

    204. Pixywine says:

      Ruby. If chlorinated chicken is the extent of your fear then you have nothi g to worry about. You’re taking a party political leftist approach to our current problems which is inappropriate for now. The problem of Fascist banking cartels goes beyond party politics. Partisan ism is a distraction from the main enemy which is all the politicians who are nodding through unnecessary Fascist emergency powers.

    205. Pixywine says:

      Ruby. I voted for Independence while pissing off my family by banging on about it. I voted to stay in Europe although if given that vote again I would vote out. I wonder if Brexit and the economy tanking in 2019 has forced the banking class to initiate their so called “great reset”.

    206. Ruby says:

      One thing Pixywine’s Aussie pal Max does talk about is some of the Australian police breaking ranks.

      This is what we need here in Scotland. We need SNP politicians, the Police, the legal fraternity, the Press to break ranks.

      How far will Sturgeon be allowed to go before they speak up?

      They risk leaving it too late and end up finding out that the entire population do not trust them.

      This would be particularly bad for the police.

    207. Ruby says:

      Pixywine says:
      12 September, 2021 at 1:38 pm
      Ruby. If chlorinated chicken is the extent of your fear then you have nothi g to worry about

      Reply

      You are a total arse and so is your Aussie friend Max.

      V

    208. Republicofscotland says:

      The SNP membership finally grows a pair and stand against the SPCB decision to ban demos outside (the designated area) Holyrood, about time I say.

      If only they stood up and were counted on a whole host of other rotten moves by Sturgeon and her clique.

      https://archive.is/IwGHb

    209. Willie says:

      Good point Breeks when you say if they ban protest from Hollyrood then we protest ten times more often, ten times harder, and in numbers they cannot suppress.

      I am by this reminded of the Sean Connery film line to the effect that ………if they put one of yours in hospital then you put one of theirs in the morgue, and if they pull a knife, then you pull a gun.

      This is a maybe a good analogy of where we are heading as Sturgeon and the gang gang currently pull their metaphorical knives. Sturgeon however is heading for the political morgue metaphorically speaking. Of that there is no doubt.

    210. Ruby says:

      Republicofscotland says:
      12 September, 2021 at 1:49 pm
      The SNP membership finally grows a pair and stand against the SPCB decision to ban demos outside (the designated area) Holyrood, about time I say.

      If only they stood up and were counted on a whole host of other rotten moves by Sturgeon and her clique.

      https://archive.is/IwGHb

      Reply

      Complaints not valid ban to go ahead!

    211. James Che. says:

      Ruby.

      I agree with you’re observation,
      Some if not majority need to break ranks, to bring change for Scotland.

    212. Hatuey says:

      Pixy just took a huge step towards redemption;

      “Edinburgh was reduced to gridlock chaos yesterday because of a middle class fanatical cycling event which none of us residents were warned about. The psychopathic cyclist superannuated school kids are symptomatic of a diseased society whose politicians seek throwback to the 19th century. Many cycling hypocrite have beemer or Mercedes parked on their drive. I’ve seen that in Edinburghs Grange.”

      Quoted in full.

      I fucking despise these sorts of things, just as I despise the selfish middle class obsession with longevity, health, food, sport, etc.

      In my area they meet up to do this thing called “park run” — why do they need to do stuff like that in big gangs? — which results in all sorts of disruption and mayhem for the rest of us.

      You’d struggle to find a more miserly, cowardly, shallow, and selfish bunch of people than Scotland’s middle classes.

      If that’s what aspirational working class people are supposed to aim for, you can stick the whole idea of social mobility right up your woke backsides.

    213. John Main says:

      @Ruby 9:24 am

      Not until I am ready.

      And I still don’t know what a “boom restriction” is.

    214. J.o.e says:

      @Willie 9:45am

      ‘as we all bump our gums worthlessly on forums such as this. We are, and I include myself in this but a shower of talking heads.’

      Ive been meeting people for a wee while in the real world. Mainly based around strengthening communities v covid bullshit but other things do come up. Been finding local businesses who are on our side and pooling talent.

      I highly recommend others who are reading from the same page as me regarding covid do the same – find a group or make a group. Whatever. You will generally find it highly rewarding and it will become necessary for you to have a support network if things continue much further.

      I can also add my opinion online.

    215. John Main says:

      @James Che 11:50 am

      I agree. If Scots supporters of Indy no longer understand about freedom, no wonder the movement has stalled.

      If I had posted here, back in September 2019, that within two years we would all need a certificate of good health to go to the pub, anybody who bothered to respond would have called me crazy.

      If I had gone further and claimed that the majority of the loudest posters BTL here would be strongly in favour of this policy, then the howls of outrage would have been deafening.

      That’s the problem with resorting to calling people crazy. The definition of what is sane and what is not changes over time. And sometimes quite rapidly.

    216. Ruby says:

      John Main says:
      12 September, 2021 at 3:41 pm
      @Ruby 9:24 am

      Not until I am ready.

      And I still don’t know what a “boom restriction” is.

      Reply

      It’s the number of times you can play the ‘Venga Boys’ before you’re told to ‘fuck right off’ ready of not.

      https://tinyurl.com/ezutevab

      Got any more question that might be bothering your pretty little head poppet?

      Boom, Boom, Boom, Boom!!
      Whoa-oh, whoa-oh
      Whoa-oh, whoa-oh

    217. Ruby says:

      Oh look John Main is trying his hand at flame-baiting!

      Too many school boy errors in his last post for anyone to take this troll seriously.

    218. Ebok says:

      Alex at his brilliant best.
      Finished? Past it? Burned out? Yeah, right!
      Can’t wait for the Wee ALBA book.
      Great reference to our Rev.
      Pretty much everything I wanted and hoped to hear.

    219. Hatuey says:

      “If I had posted here, back in September 2019, that within two years we would all need a certificate of good health to go to the pub, anybody who bothered to respond would have called me crazy.”

      Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

      What a pointless thing to say.

    220. John Main says:

      @Ruby

      Three responses from you in one day, and this thread is not even current!

      And not for the first time, complements mixed in with the insults. I guess if that’s worked for you in the past … ?

      OK, I might be interested, but I’m looking for something long term.



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