Wings Over Scotland

Nailed it.

It says so much about politics here that someone like Douglas Ross can get ‘elected’ and by so few votes. Mind you, there seems to be a dearth of talent across the parties these days.

@Geoff Huijer

Indeed. The one thing of which we have an abundance of is third-rate politicians, both at home (Holyrood) and abroad (Westminster).

Thanks again Chris for your Saturday morning satire – always a bright start to the day.

Maybe we should inform the WHO about the Scottish Variant of COVID.

Not necessarily any greater risk to health than any other COVID, but a very stubborn and long term infection, likely to cause complete paralysis in Government, the indefinite suspension of any conversations mentioning the word Independence, a blanket ban on political rallies unless they’ve won the league that year, and resulting in the uniquely Scottish phenomenon of voting in Elections being completely viable but voting in a Referendum is flatly ruled out, postponed indefinitely due to,… err,…the risks to public health.

Scottish COVID. – Nicola’s salvation.

Self isolating in an hotel because he’s Douglas Ross?

Anyone else would be self-isolating at home.

Come unto me little children and get your dose of Soma.
link to thenational.scot
Just a little prick, my dears.
FOFM!

A message for David Paisley

link to twitter.com

Charles Hodgson

The “Portugal thing” is a narrative entirely manufactured by the UK government and the media. People here are pretty upset over the way the country is being portrayed and it won’t be forgotten quickly.

Letting thousands of fans fly into Porto, drink the place dry over two days, gather in huge crowds, not a mask in sight was idiotic beyond belief and the locals are going to pay the price in bodies. The politicians have no clue – just like it’s been throughout this pandemic.

Nice one again Chris

I know Portugal was a UK Gov decision, but there has never been a punitive Covid restriction that NS that wouldn’t agree with. In fact, I can imagine her in ecstasy as she contemplates the suffering and inconvenience of travelers rushing back to the UK to avoid isolating.
As Wayne Campbell would put it, she is a psycho hose beast.

Responding to a question by a journalist, she (Sturgeon) said: “Humza answered a question about, ‘should a parent in level two take their kid to the soft play in level one’.

“It was in the context of that question that he was making the point..”

I do believe the point has been made, in a Scottish court, that there is no such thing as “context”.

Yon Jason Leitch has managed, pretty much single-handedly, to wreck ‘the most petty and ill-informed sports programme on radio’.

He should be on Off The Ball in about 15,20 minutes, and there’s no way he can avoid some very awkward questions over this ‘fan zone’ in Glasgow for the Euro finals.

Anyone’s guess what pish he’ll come out with today…

Regarding the sinking school: Still no word from Mr Swinney and his ‘Head of Outcome Agreement Unit’. We were expecting two, maybe three reports to be issued. Nothing has arrived and Mr Swinney’s gone. No-one knows where he is.

It’s been a long wait, hasn’t it – almost seven years? The trouble with these reports is that Mr Swinney cannot redact them, he cannot submit a holding reply and he cannot submit blank pages either. He doesn’t even have a Lord Advocate to make excuses for him and so he’s cornered.

It makes me wonder why he didn’t just listen to the advice of the whistle-blower back in 2014. How much would it have cost to fix back then – perhaps very little. How much is it going to cost to fix now? Can it be fixed now?

Why doesn’t someone just ask him: Is this school safe Mr Swinney…yes or no? Is that not what Holyrood is supposed to be for?

If this refusal goes-on any longer, there is a plan B to ensure their release within 24-hours. Plan B was suggested to the Teaching Unions several months ago. Are they thinking about it? I hope they are.

Thank you James .

Sad to learn of what sounds like an awful early * education ” experience , glad to learn it has not prevented you becoming a thoughtful , intelligent , well-informed adult .

For my part , I left school at 15 ( showing my age now ! ) and though I done pretty good academically , I couldn’t get out quick enough , the school – Bellarmine in Pollok – being beset by a culture of violence , by and against pupils and teachers and that terribly self-defeating attitude of being * slagged * if you took an interest and done well in the classrooms .

As far as venturing into areas not strictly relevant to Independence , that’s,at least partially , more a reflection of the stasis we’re in at this time , with zero progress being made , in fact more accurately , going backwards , with little sign of that changing anytime soon + there’s only so much you say about the characters of the Sturgeon Cabal before it becomes dulled and meaningless by repetition .

Currently too the Covid factor is having such an effect on everything , including our aspiration , it simply can’t be ignored . It would be remiss to do so .

I can tell you I’ve enjoyed and been educated by your recent posts on the detail and implications of our baleful , unresolved participation in the Treaty of Union , and by your comments generally .

Similarly with J.o.e’s thought and articulation thereof .

It’s great that there is still such robust and stimulating BTL commentary going on here , despite the absence of Mr Campbell .

As far as Marion Miller is concerned what we need is a thousand people outside Holyrood – chanting that trans women are men and have us all arrested and clog up the courts forever since they are nonsensical anyway – just look at Craig Murray possibly going to jail and Garavelli and Wark laughing all the way to the bank.

Dave Somerville says

” I keep expecting Sturgeon to learn sign language so she doesn’t have to share the spotlight with the woman at the back of her. ”

Hahaha, very good Dave .

I’m expecting her to abolish all traffic lights and replace them with systems of Virtue Signals

Have a listen to this doctor. It’s only 2 minutes.

Compare with the endless dribble of pish we’ve been getting from Leitch and his ilk.

Why is it so fuckin difficult for some people to see what’s happening?

Why?

link to twitter.com

For love, an’ Scotlan’, never dies.

Front page of The Herald today.

I don’t think it’s just Joanna Cherry taking an interest…

link to barrheadboy.com

Maybe the Genderwanks are about to be introduced to Scotland’s Nemo me impune lacessit philosophy, (No one provokes me with impunity)…

Ian Brotherhood asks:
‘Why is it so fuckin difficult for some people to see what’s happening?

Why?’

Ian, this is the question haunting me and many of my friends, as we watch our loved ones and friends signing up enthusiastically to the loss of their freedoms, the deadly (in some cases) effects of the jibjab, the brain-dead, moronic parroting of the mainstream lies etc.

Like they’ve joined a cult or something?

Very very weird.

Stuart MacKay says:
5 June, 2021 at 9:10 am
Charles Hodgson

Letting thousands of fans fly into Porto, drink the place dry over two days, gather in huge crowds, not a mask in sight was idiotic beyond belief and the locals are going to pay the price in bodies. The politicians have no clue – just like it’s been throughout this pandemic

Really? Can you direct me to the ‘bodies’ which have resulted from any of the mass gatherings for which similar predictions were made? Rangers celebrations, BLM protests and other assorted mass demonstrations, crowded beaches etc?

This is the result of the anti science agenda.

link to archive.is

Next time you complain about vaccines for children, maybe have a rub of that scar on your arm from the BCG or think back to the cube of sugar you were given.

Balaaargh, have a watch of the video above.
I’d LOVE to hear your refutation.

Ian B @3.08
Sorry Ian, Balaaargh@2.35 beat me to the response.
I had a quick look at his site, surprised he isn’t promoting the elixir of youth.
Its up to yourself how you deal with this, I’ll take the tried and tested medical route. And before any howler starts with the “lack of time in testing the new vaccine” I’ll just say, the worlds best scientists all got involved, hence the speed in making the vaccine.

There are many benefits in getting the vaccine, Bluetooth compatibility, Bill Gates micro chip. I am now writing this without using my hands, only using thought, amazing.
Also travelling, just get the IP address of the hotel you are going to, stick your tongue in the USB, voila you travel through the webisphere. When I get the second vaccine next week, I’ll be able to get a return journey.
Hope this clears everything up.

Too busy having a barbecue with family to watch it now but ivermectin is not recommended for a very good reason – all of the studies showing it was effective as a treatment were too small. One larger trial with mild covid patients found no statistical significance. There are still large trials either just started or about to start.

Unfortunately, the research used in the article you linked above has already been rejected.

link to archive.is

Balaaargh self-selecting the trials he prefers.
Try not to poison yourself with your barbecue, sounds like you’ve got enough crap in your system already

In relation to this question, ‘Something which should be relatively easy to find out, and should actually be a matter of public record….

In which year, and for what reason, did Ivermectin become Unlicenced within the UK? Because it wasn’t always.’

I can find nothing on the internet re it becoming Unlicenced. Nothing in the papers, nothing in the medical journals, or the science journals. Nowt. Particularly nothing which would provide the date when this happened.

And that complete absence of info – which should be in the public domain as a matter of routine – is very interesting.

However, there are much better investigators of tinterweb on here who might like to give it a go.

OT… Any techies on?

Why, when the weather warms up a few degrees and the sun comes out, why does my digital reception go to blazes?

My Internet Data is all mobile data, and comes and goes at random, which is bloody annoying, but even the TV becomes unwatchable.

The Data is garbled, but when the TV starts to “chirp” with the lousy signal, it seems to be on a frequency that irritates the dog’s hearing, and he’s off outside. Won’t stay anywhere in earshot. It’s like fireworks on bonfire night in reverse… keep your pets outdoors when the telly’s on.

Why oh why is Digital Data so delicate, and what causes it’s decay? Having your digital receiver in one spot works fine one day but not the next. WHY? Nothing has changed at my end. Is it atmospheric? Is the service provider running on less power? Is it cloud cover? Is it the radiation interference of direct sunbeams? Is it time for another blood sacrifice to the gods? What???

What exactly is it I’m trying to tap into? Is it like a radar, upset by topography? Is it wavelength like a radio signal? What is it, and what is it vulnerable to? Can I put some kind of aerial up to help reception? Does having the receiver higher up help? Is the signal upset by any particular building fabric? Would it help if the dongle was outside? Do I need a direct line of sight with a transmitter?

It feels like I need a PhD in Witchcraft just to work out why the arrangement is trouble free one day, but an absolute lottery the next. There are too many random variables which defy a definitive understanding of why the signal comes and goes, strong one moment, and gone the next.

But fk me, it’s annoying.

I know, I know, get a landline… but I’m rural, and that’s not really an option.

If I just knew the enemy…. Maybe there’s some highly radioactive Chernobyl survivor who’s on the run, hiding from the authorities and some days he strays too near the house and disrupts reception, but he has to keep moving or they’ll find him if he stays in one spot too long. Maybe one of the pigeons which loiters in the vicinity is magnetic…

I can’t figure it out…. but I hate the poxy little reception dongle with such a passion these days… I’m going to do it a mischief one day… lol

@aunty flo

My own reasoning is that to take a clear look at whats happening and the actual facts v narrative would basically implode their fairly cozy world view and reveal something much darker and uglier.

In fact the real world we have now, if you rip off the facade, is utterly terrifying and it much easier to cling to fairly ridiculous official narratives than it is to face it.

Thats why the PR people and shills are necessary. They are here to provide people who want to believe the official narratives with something to cling to. Like there is actually a real organic argument for the government and media version of this.

Without exaggeration I think that if you took the average person and sat them down and made them look and listen to all the evidence of how our civilisation actually functions, actual history, the stated and suggested designs of the upper echelons of power all in one go about 80% would be in need of some kind of psychological help.

That’s not to say that I know a great deal myself.

Disturbing tangent – For a possible glimpse into the dark mind of our financial elite a look at the work by artist Cleon Peterson is illuminating especially given that he has been commissioned by old hyper wealthy banking families more than once.

This is the same financial elite whose organisations are giving us climate fear and the gender ‘transitioning’ of children.

Belaargh has won fuck all. He’s still an idiot who defame his opponents because he has no argument only BBC links.
Only an idiot can’t see the way Government keeps promising things and when the public fall for the promise they compromise themselves and the Government moves the goalposts and makes fresh demands.
Belaarg. You are a Kapo.

@Sarah, thanks for the reply.

Joe. The PCR is the enemies main weapon. Without its bogus results they have nothing.

@ Charles Hodgson (3.39) –

Thanks for mentioning that link.

This seems to be it here…

Very long, but really eye-opening stuff.

Cheers.

link to youtube.com

Btw, I’m not a lockdown fanatic. Never have been. But nobody ever bothered to ask.

Breeks@4.20.
I wouldn’t recommend keeping your dongle in the fridge, you might get an accumulation of moisture on it, which may result in short circuiting when sticking it back into the socket.
Although you may be protected if you have had both Bluetooth and microchip vaccines.
On the poor internet situation, I think Dan covered the issue pretty well regarding popular tourist areas using up the Wi-Fi etc.
Maybe there is an unforeseen issue with the vaccine compatibility, i.e Pfizer maybe not working well will BT, AZ not working with well with Microsoft etc. If only the vaccine scientists had spent more time on the internet compatibility side, rather than howling at the moon, according to the Flat Earth Downhill Mountain Bike club, we might not have these problems!!!

Fundraiser for Marion Millar’s legal fees.

It’s already at £6,330 of £10k target after two hours.

🙂

link to gofundme.com

Well that didn’t take long.

£10,933 raised of £10,000 goal

link to gofundme.com

Baaalargh, there’s no Covid 19 pandemic, the four nations of the U.K. downgraded Covid 19 from the High Consequence Infectious Disease Register (HCID) because of it’s ‘low mortality rate’, if you go refer to this register you will find the SARS virus is still on it and killed 700 in the U.K.

When Sturgeon says 10,000 have died in Scotland from Covid 19, she is lying through her rotten little mouth.

I see marion’s “gofundme” page is down.

Wonder why ?

I hope this comes back to bite gofundme on the arse.

The wokeratti must be very ,very worried. Good.

Lobbyists can not outfight people power.

Robert Hughes,
Thank you for decent well thought out reply,
I had thought that no one had paid attention re my posted comments on the reality and facts of the treaty of the union,
The suspicion that an awful lot of Scots were going around like spirituals dead people called Zombies was causing a bit of panic within me.
I thought I was going to have to learn body language from a whole new perspective.what with the Snp dragging their feet, absent minds and dull cranium responses, others going around arms held in front of them being injected in Qs..
Joking aside,
You’re self and j.o.e and one or two others will be the ones that help see the rest of us through some pretty tough times ahead into new thought processes that come from within us, Rather than the teachings of thought patterns to the million over airwaves and internet as behavioural science.

Hi Astonished.

I’m getting “Campaign Not Found”.
I wonder if it could be because it reached its goal so quickly?

Just checked her Twitter. Read about what’s happened at the link:-

link to twitter.com

Balaaargh says:
5 June, 2021 at 5:25 pm
“Charles,
Why don’t you list all the trials here then. Show your working.”

There are none so blind as those who will not see. This a big enough survey for you, Blaargy boy?:

“In Mexico City, after a spike in cases in December, the city’s Ministry of Health created a home-treatment kit for residents. The city’s metro population is 22 million.

At the time, the head of the Mexico City Ministry of Health, Oliva López, said told reporters her agency had determined “that there is enough evidence to use in people positive for SARS-CoV-2, even without symptoms, some drugs such as ivermectin and azithromycin.

Beginning Dec. 29, people who tested positive for COVID from an antigen test and who were experiencing at least mild symptoms began receiving one of the government’s ivermectin-based treatment kits, TrialSiteNews reported

The Mexican government then began a study to track the impact of the early treatment of COVID with ivermectin on the city’s population.

The study tracked 200,000 people, dividing in two cohorts — those who received ivermectin and those who did not.

Through a phone-call-based monitoring system and hospital data on admissions for COVID-19, the researchers found a reduction of between 52% and 76% in hospitalizations for those who took ivermectin compared to those who did not.”

link to citizensjournal.us

I’m off out to get pished in a pub with real people. Enjoy your self-selecting little back garden barby,Blaargy, and keep your potentially infectious neighbor’s far far away.
The rest of us will continue living our lives, you smug paranoid little pishfart

Ha! I’ve just received a fobbing-off reply from the “GoFundMe Customer Happiness Team”, after I also complained about their taking the page down.

The reply said that my mail had been sent to an unmonitored inbox, but within seconds they sent another email to say they had received my message and would be dealing with it.

The First Minister who claims to be a feminist says nothing.

I think it must be pretty obvious that these so called ‘trans-activists’ are out to cause trouble.

Marion Miller’s paypal link:

link to paypal.com

Eh, Ian, weird for a Saturday night…

@BDTT –

Exactly what I was thinking.

Dodgy shit…

🙁

I was dans le jardin planting a couple of hundred beetroots seeds.
Breeks was probably out walking the dongle looking for a signal…

Defo get the feeling over the past couple of weeks there is significant pushback happening with many organisations distancing themselves from the rather over zealous lobbying activities.
I think they may have over-reached with sneaking this out under the radar, and the wider public are waking up to it now.

Archived Telegraph article.

“Stonewall ‘exodus’ begins as Ministry of Justice officials say it has ‘lost its way’”

link to archive.is

A broken clock is always right twice a day.

“WOS was so successful because Mr Campbell was happy to take on uncomfortable issues and forensically deconstruct the bullshit.”

Sadly, this is the age where everyone becomes an expert by reading Facebook on the toilet. Critical thinking and research is about more than pasting links from “alternative news” sites like spiked-online and sharing Ben Garrison cartoons. Deconstructing bullshit involves looking critically at the messenger as well as the message. Is the source credible? What is the background here. Is this some fringe rando? What’s the motive behind the post?

And I have to correct myself. J.o.e. did NOT post a link to globalresearch.ca, that was cirsium. See, I’m not perfect and I’m big enough to admit when I made a mistake. I’m still waiting for ottomanboi to back up his claim that there have been worse pandemics this century or even confirm he washes his hands.

J.o.e. didn’t post that link, he made the claim that COVID was in Barcelona and Brazil in 2019. Great headline from Reuters but as the Rev has REPEATEDLY pointed out, you need to keep reading and not take the headline at its word. When you read further into the detail and do your own research, you find that these were un-published, un-peer reviewed pieces of work when the story was annuonced. And the peer review comments since then are not particularly flattering. The Brazil raw data has only just been released, it should be interesting to see the analysis when actual experts have reviewed it but the authors have confirmed that the results aren’t applying new information to existing results but rather unfreezing samples and taking them to labs already doing COVID-19 tests so they can’t rule out contamination.

And this is a point that you all miss time and time again: there is no binary right or wrong here. We’ll never know the root cause for this pandemic. What’ll happen is a group of scientists will coalesce opinion around a certain hypothesis but without definitive evidence, no conclusion will be reached. For jimuckmac’s benefit, a pandemic is not a UK gov declaration of what is a highly infectious disease. A pandemic is an epidemic of a disease which has crossed multiple international borders and is present across the globe in multiple continents. There is also a view that it must also be non-seasonal, it must still be prevalent in a country even if it was not the expected season.

Do you know what makes this so tiresome? There’s always another claim. The virus doesn’t exist; it can be cured with drug X; masks don’t work; masks will kill you; it’s just a flu; the govt is trying to install a new world order; the vaccine isn’t a vaccine; the vaccine changes your DNA; the vaccine is experimental; the vaccine contains a chip which will monitor your movements; Bill Gates makes billions off vaccines; the tests are wrong; the vaccine is gene therapy; the government are hushing up deaths; it came from China; it didn’t come from China; you won’t get a job without a vaccine passport; now a BANKING LAWYER is going to save you! And you tell ME to get a grip? 😀

I asked before, if the vaccine is BS then do you really think they would roll it out first to white people? It’s a lot more expensive to cover up and go to court fighting compensation here than it is in Africa, South America or most parts of Asia.

Of course big pharma are in it for the money, they’re a business. Oh, and both AstraZeneca and J&J vaccines are being sold at cost and most developed countries have over-purchased but state the excess will go in to the COVAX scheme. It it our responsibility to make sure our politicians follow through on that.

It really grinds my teeth that those greedy, corrupt motherfuckers in Westminster are going to milk the vaccine rollout as this massive british success after everything they’ve done to make it worse. The tories are in power for the decade and I also have little confidence that Sturgeon will take positive action. I have some sympathy for the experts that we have to put our faith in because they’ve never done it before. They only have their numbers and graphs and compare them to something which happened 100 years ago. And they have gotten things wrong at times. Not helped by the blond clown who has made a career out of failing upwards.

I hate “lockdowns” because they are a symbol of failure. Failure of governments to act for the protection of their populations. Failure of people to adhere to simple rules of hygiene. And a failure of individuals having some thought for the welfare of your fellow man. I struggled to understand how Adam Tomkins went from Indy-supporting socialist to Tory MSP and yet I feel I’ve watched it unfold on these pages.

I miss the Rev and I hope he is able to move on and be successful in whatever he decides. But empires always fall and WoS is dead. You’re welcome to all the pseudoscience, conspiracy bollocks, NWO fearmongering and all-round batshit quackery masquerading as intelligent debate. It’s not my legacy you’re harming. You are the drunken auld wankers in the pub corner that nobody wants to talk to, heads stuck up their own arses talking about great histories of poverty poets and playwrights this nation has produced and deluding yourself you’re just like them. Feel free to reply, I can assure you I couldn’t give a shit (bbq was quite nice thanks, Charlie) and I guarantee I won’t see it.

To the sensible people, I wish you well. I’m already on other Indy sites (except WGD for obvious reasons). Maybe we’ll even meet at the Alba party conference. I’ll be the one without the tinfoil hat.

Oh, and Breeks? If your post about signal was serious, have you looked at using a mobile wifi hotspot instead of a dongle? Depending on house construction, 4G signals might struggle to maintain a solid connection. That way you can have the hotspot by the window for a better signal. Vodafone do one for £50 PAYG but there are other options.

Hey Blaargy boy, in the torrent of verbal diaorreah above, I note you don’t mention Mexico and Ivermectin. What a fucken surprise. You only show you are guilty of what you accuse others off – a closed mind.
You don’t think pharma companies that spend millions on vaccines wont step on cheap alternatives that will prevent them making huge profits, and acknowledge that politicians on the take have an interesting obeying their paymasters. Keep living in your pathetic dreamworld. I’m an Alba member too, I know the Sturgeon conspiracy against Salmond was real. So do you, presumably, you just chose to believe this partucular strain of BS. Lots of us know better, barby boy.

Ian

I was reading about it last week. Some girl won the first prize and now has 1 million dollars or approx £750,000 to put towards her university education.

Apparently each week there will be 4 prizes of 1 million$ and there is a secondary lottery for school kids which awards the winner about $500,000 which they can use for their school education etc.

Blaargy Barby Boy, you know who didn’t have “randomised control tests”? Darwin, Einstein, Galileo, Newton. Maybe you’d like to dispute their Science?
Or maybe we should just get fucken on with applying the best treatment we have to treat ill people? Are you comfortable with people dying, or do you want to get with acknowleding the best available evidence existing and save lives, like *right now*?
What harm would utilising a perfectly safe treatment cause anyway?
What are you? Sturgeon and Fauci’s bitch?
Get the fuck off this page you fucken numbskull, you should be ashamed.

That fraud posing as Marion Millar to scam people out of their donations and steal some of Marion Millar’s crowdfunding for legal support is a new low, even for the Wokeratti.

There’s fighting dirty, and then there’s being absolute slime.

On the up side however, I think they’ve been getting away with it long enough, and the world is beginning to react. Ian Lawson is talking about crowdfunding a fighting fund to pursue the the troublemaking shit stirrers for malicious prosecution, and suing the shit out them.

It sounds a fresh idea, but it should really have started with the Alphabetties.

@Charles Hodgson 5 June, 2021 at 8:12 am

“Isn’t it time to go full anti-lockdown? The Portugal thing is crazy, and entirely predictable.
False positives enabling the Dictator to slow down moving down the tiers.Seems to me people with other conditions are catching Covid whilst in hospital. This is then flipped to portray people out in the community contracting Covid, and then being hospitalised.”

LOL another conspiracy theorist, your own lack of ability for not being able to understand complex issues around Virus transmission a conspiracy does not make. Only 45% of the nation have had the second Jab and latest Indian Varient is not protected against by only having one jab, we have a long way to go. Latest variants are also affecting younger people then previous ones. “Seems to me ” doesn’t make anything true, why on earth would people only be getting infected in Hospitals when people are mixing in public, in Pubs, in Homes and in recently non essential shops ? Thankfull Anti Vaxxers and unstable conspiracy theorists are still the minority but it does expose how easy it is to infect your heads with invented garbage.

Breeks 5 June, 2021 at 4:20 pm
“Oh yes, does the physical temperature of the dongle matter? Should I keep it in the fridge?

Questions, questions….”

It’s probably your own Head you should keep in the fridge, it would do us all a favour”

From:-
link to twitter.com

”
‘MarionMillar’ #WomenWontWheesht
@millar_marion
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20m
Good morning all ?
I want yo let you know that so far we have doubled my target and I also have a pledge of a further £10,000 from a sister accountant.
The tras did not win at all.
I hope these cretins take comfort in knowing that anything left over will be split between my
boys local charity, a downs syndrome charity, @ForwomenScot and the @ALLIANCELGB

I want to thank you all for your kind donations and beautiful messages of love and support and a special thanks to the women who although are scared to speak publicly have took the time to DM me”

@JimuckMac 5 June, 2021 at 6:39 pm

“Baaalargh, there’s no Covid 19 pandemic, the four nations of the U.K. downgraded Covid 19 from the High Consequence Infectious Disease Register (HCID) because of it’s ‘low mortality rate’, if you go refer to this register you will find the SARS virus is still on it and killed 700 in the U.K.

When Sturgeon says 10,000 have died in Scotland from Covid 19, she is lying through her rotten little mouth.”

Christ another shite talker. Sturgeon doesn’t make the figures daftie , the figures are produced by dozens upon dozens of Statisicians from “Registers of Scotland” who unlike you are all highly qualified individuals and have no political cross to bear and just produce proper data built from Registered actual Death Certiicates lodged in Scotland, those Death Certificates are only ever filled in by thousands and thousands of properly qualified Doctors across Scotland of which none are taking part in some big secret plan across the whole World to invent a Pandemic. Now go and sit in the stupid corner beside Pixywine.
link to independent.co.uk

@James Che

Thanks for the kind words. I appreciate your contributions also.

While we need experts, academics and professionals who have adhered to educational requirements and stuck to the beaten path for our general society to function, they are not well placed to take a step back and be properly critical of the system that is treating them fairly well.

I share Roberts experience with regards to school and initially I tried to get through it all and gain something out of it but in the end I was practicing shooting a longbow in woodland when I was supposed to be doing my exams. I never regretted that. In fact I should have done more of it as im still not very good.

Being given such a bleak early view of how the system is less than perfect puts us in a better position to face up to situations like this. I’d honestly hate to be doing my waking up now.

Still obsessing over TOARIES!! while the corrupt lying bastard Nicola Sturgeon squats in Bute house, continuing to lay waste to law, justice and freedom without any fear of the consequences.

I really could not give a shit about Douglas Ross, he’s an irrelevance, until people grow out of this ridiculous TOARY!! obsession and turn their fire on the real evil in Scottish politics nothing will change.

And if you want to go on about covid, how’s about looking at the dribbling moron Humza Yousaf who sturgeon has imposed on the country as health minister during the biggest pandemic in living memory. That’s the real story here, not some irrelevance quarantining in a hotel.

@Dorothy Devine 6 June, 2021 at 9:06 am

“Should anyone care to Google the ‘sweaty sock Jock’ slur , they will find it has indeed been reported to the police and has indeed been in court. It also has been reported in various unionist rags as in the Telegraph and the Daily Mail also by the BBBC.”

Nice attempt at diversion , if not why not actually just post a link to the actual case concerned in the first place for all to see if the result was as stated ?

J.o.e 6 June, 2021 at 8:59 am

“… therefore the temporary use authorisation of these vaccines that are still in the trial stages.”

Vaccines are NOT in “trial stages” dickie.

Vaccine safety
Is the NHS confident the vaccine will be safe?
Yes. The MHRA, the official UK regulator authorising licensed use of medicines and vaccines by healthcare professionals, has said these vaccines are safe and highly effective.

The NHS would not offer any COVID-19 vaccinations to the public until it is safe to do so.

As with any medicine, vaccines are highly regulated products. There are checks at every stage in the development and manufacturing process, and continued monitoring once it has been authorised and is being used in the wider population. link to ouh.nhs.uk

McDuff 6 June, 2021 at 9:35 am

“What is not made up is that an English PM agrees that Scots are ” vermin and should be exterminated”. Just think about these words.”

More braindead Nationalist fantasy shite , provide any proof Johnson actually agrees with that but you can’t. Allowing a pre-stated comedy poem from a well known writer to be published in something you are Editor of doesn’t mean you have to agree to the words involved at all, it shows in the belief in freedom of the press and also belief in free speech. Not pulishing it would be called censorship. Its why certain Mohammed cartoons are still being published in France ie because open societies allow free speech and not censorship of everything becausean a small inwardly looking self anal gazing minority get butthurt at everything they neither have the IQ to understand or simply don’t like.

@Brian Doonthetoon – “Deputy FM John Swinney has insisted that police are not investigating the issue”.

There is obviously an investigation going-on then. The Police don’t want to do it, but they’re having to do it. How long has this taken them, so far?

Then it has to go to the COPFS who will determine if Peter Murrell can be charged. The only question I have is: who is more bent – Peter Murrell or the COPFS? Hence, the chances of success are close to zero.

What a mess of a country we now all live in. Isn’t it staggering that we voted for this?

You have to admire folk like Marion Millar for standing up to it and it’s about time our Police did the same.

One thing’s for certain, the SNP know we voted for them and they know that they are in charge for another 5-years.

In the meantime, Liz Truss is out doing trade deals with the rest of the world which will benifit Scotland more than all at Holyrood will do.

I am not a Tory and the Tories we have at Holyrood are a dreadful bunch of dishonest and unaccountable no-users. But, credit where credit’s due.

Shocked 6 June, 2021 at 9:27 am

“Still obsessing over TOARIES!! while the corrupt lying bastard Nicola Sturgeon squats in Bute house, continuing to lay waste to law, justice and freedom without any fear of the consequences.

I really could not give a shit about Douglas Ross, he’s an irrelevance, until people grow out of this ridiculous TOARY!! obsession and turn their fire on the real evil in Scottish politics nothing will change.

And if you want to go on about covid, how’s about looking at the dribbling moron Humza Yousaf who sturgeon has imposed on the country as health minister during the biggest pandemic in living memory. That’s the real story here, not some irrelevance quarantining in a hotel.”

Well as much as it pains me to agree, you are correct 100%. Have never Voted Tory and never will but this huge obsession with the Tories is exactly what the SNP have deliberately fostered over the last decade to allow themselves to do virtually nothing of any good or often worse decison making than the Tories themselves in many cases.

SNP themselves were happy to stand with the Tories to Vote down their own singular manifesto promise the SNP were actually voted into power on. Doesn’t doing that ring any alram bells ..anything else that they campaign on that they don’t really want too ? link to scotsman.com

While all the time doing EXACTLY the same things as the Tories.
link to express.co.uk

SNP were actually imposing 7.1% Austerity on us in Scotland by their own choice when the Tories were only imposing 1.8% Austerity over the whole UK at the time. “Spice” is the Scottish Parliaments own Data office. link to spice-spotlight.scot

Retro reminder from 2016 of where the PM’s priorities lie.

“A pound spent in Croydon is of far more value than a pound spent in Strathclyde”

(30 secs)

link to youtube.com

Same as it ever was…Wakey wakey Scots and get off your knees.
There’s a reason that over the course of this 300 year supposedly “equal” Union the population of The Kingdom of England has increased from approximately 5 to 10 times that of the Kingdom of Scotland.
It means that our “equal” partner in this Union has benefited from garnering all the positive economic advantages that go with that disparity in our respective population growth rates.
That shows consistent breaching of the Treaty of Union as no constituent part of the UK should have an economic advantage over another.
The fact that over the years all Westminster Governments have shown no political will to implement policies to redress this growth rate disparity is proof that Scotland is not well served or an equal partner in this Union.

Don,
England can’t afford independence but they should try it out instead of sponging off every other country.

After reading that Ian Lawson had his donation to the ringfenced fund returned, we decided to see if our donation of £200.00 could also be returned ( we had bank statement, thank you letter from Jim Henderson dated and signed). The donation was returned to the bank account within 2 days.
I tried to donate this to the Marion Millar crowd funder yesterday, but the transaction was terminated (fund was about £10,000 then). I would still like to donate to her legal costs but in view of all the attacks on the lady, her accounts and her crowd funders, I am not sure how to do this.
I would be glad to have some reliable information as to where to go next.
As we are both elderly OAPs, about the only thing we can usefully do is to donate when and where we can.

Thank you Brian Doonthetoon that is a very interesting article.

I totally agree with the following.
The reaction from people in Scotland is
‘You can’t be serious’ or perhaps it’s ‘aye right pull the other one’.

“If it has not received that scrutiny it is, I suspect, because many voters do not believe the Scottish government seriously proposes that men can be women and, not only that, but women no different from those born female. Yet that is what the SNP propose.”

@Stuart MacKay

An olive branch would be an explanation on:

1 – how the methods of accumulating statistics on covid i.e PCR for case numbers and deaths is at odds with guidance by public health bodies such as the WHO

2 – an explanation of why, if these vaccines are so safe that companies are not prepared to take liability themselves and instead put liability on the public

3 – a halt to the misrepresentation of people who are not entirely convinced that an industry with a murderous track record and financially compromised politicians are putting public health and safety first and foremost as some kind of slavering conspiracy nut.

4 – a fair televised debate with the numerous experts and industry insiders who have voiced heavy concerns for what is going on.

In the absence of this we have people being paid to take these shots. That’s not an olive branch.

Socrates MacSporran 6 June, 2021 at 10:54 am

“However, she cannot keep Scotland locked down for ever. Pro-Independence marches will return, and that is when we will hopefully begin to see ALBA emerging as the true voice of Independence and overwhelming the present SNP and their Green fellow travellers.

When that day arrives, the Tories will have real problems to contend with.”

I’m sure that is what you like to think , but they won’t. There is only one reason the SNP and Sturgeon are not progressing Indy and that is for the exact same reasons as they always have been the ones they have still been sucessfully conning you on.

link to blogs.lse.ac.uk

link to ifs.org.uk

link to heraldscotland.com

Stuart MacKay,
I agree that there are trust issues involved with the Covid vaccine amongst many people, however it may be a bit of stretch to believe that the prize giving is an olive branch.

J.o.e 6 June, 2021 at 11:28 am

“The idea that im to be comfortable with the long term health effects of an injection that the manufacturers won’t accept financial liability for is one of the most stupid fucking things ive ever considered.”

The idea that someone might refuse to have an injection that hundreds of millions of people in the world have had successfully and is now proven to save lies when affected by Covid is one of the most stupid fucking things i’ve ever considered.

The idea that someone might prefer a company that could go bust to “promise” to pay out compensation instead of a government that won’t go bust and therefore can’t avoid making payouts is also one of the most stupid fucking things i’ve ever considered. But Scotland is obviosuly full of stupid fucking people.
link to fullfact.org

Ooops I think I’m on the wrong forum.

Sorry to interrupt the discussion about Covid vaccines.

For the people who don’t see my point:

Get yourself an account with a brokerage, very easy these days, and start to put savings into the companies making these vaccines.

All the liability falls on the public. The profits go to the shareholders.

There is nothing to be afraid of.

Unless of course they have broken the law.

What you scared of?

Breastplate says:
6 June, 2021 at 11:47 am
Ruby,
You probably are.

Reply

Sorry Breastplate I made a mistake.

Ruby,
I understand that we see things differently when it comes to government restrictions and vaccines regarding Covid.
This is a political website and to me and many others, perhaps even you, actions and rhetoric surrounding this coronavirus became political almost instantly.

I genuinely don’t mind if you disagree.

J.o.e, Breastplate,

You need to read the small print “more of an olive branch than a bribe.

Having said that I agree with J.o.e that the current problems are all about shitty data, avarice and incompetence. After this crisis is over, root and branch reform is needed across large swathes of government including the likes of the WHO as all seem no longer fit for purpose.

Ruby
I agree with you on a couple of things.
1 This used to be a site dedicated to Independence. Not vaccines and anti-vaxers . Sad.
2.A thousand years from now when an archaeologist digs up the remains of a trans-woman and tests the DNA he will say “this was a man.”
Men in frocks are never women.
However they are welcome to dress and behave however they like, as far as I’m concerned.

‘oooohhhh look at all these anti-vaxxers talking on this scottish politics blog about their conspiracies’

Yeah, coz this is an issue outside of Scotland and clearly doesn’t affect Scots.

Clearly.

I find myself hoping that these kinds of comments are made by people with an outside agenda and not the honest opinions of honest people.

Otherwise I find myself being sympathetic to the elitist idea that we need less dumb bastards running around

The fact is its not the conversation outside of the sphere of scottish politics that bothers you (even though it is and is probably the most serious situation to face Scots probably ever) its that you people do not like seeing opinions that cast shade on your own views on the subject.

Be fucking honest now.

J.o.e 6 June, 2021 at 12:55 pm

“Yeah, coz this is an issue outside of Scotland and clearly doesn’t affect Scots.”

When it all sounds too stupid to be true J.o.e. thats because it is , unfortunately people like you swallow it all too willingly and then try to convince others of the same.

link to bbc.co.uk

Gary45%,
Are you suggesting that the unintended beneficial consequences of lockdown are so good that we should leave it in place indefinitely?

Breastplate 6 June, 2021 at 1:19

“Are you suggesting that the unintended beneficial consequences of lockdown are so good that we should leave it in place indefinitely?”

And who anywhere has ever suggested this ? Absolutely no-one.
What ridiculous lengths you all go to to try to satisfy your own confused heads.