It’s not the chlorine in your chicken that’s the problem, it’s the poor animal husbandry which breeds the stuff the chlorine is meant to kill so your food is “safe” to eat that’s the problem.
Remember when the UK ceased to regard animals as sentient beings?
If only there was some way Scotland could stop this madness, maintain compliance with European standards, (which aren’t perfect but better than this), and reward Scottish farmers for doing the right and decent thing by their livestock these past few decades.
Seems we’re all going to be eating shite now, all because Queen Sturgeon doesn’t want a supermajority leading to Scottish Independence. Vote SNP1 & 2 for bigger manboobs, smaller sperm count, and untold misery and suffering for countless numbers of sentient animals.
Fuck you Sturgeon.
100%Yes
3 years ago
I’m sure RIP Britain, the idea is to destroy Scotland economy before we become Independent. We now have another Cabinet Secretary for the Constitution things are just moving along as they did in 2016.
The Isolator
3 years ago
Fantastic as always Chris,
Chin up chaps it’s all very British.Will the supermarket products be plastered with Australian and New Zealand flags now?Anything but a Saltire eh Blackford you utter buffoon.
Dan
3 years ago
Arriving soon at a butcher’s counter in the Jute City… Crocodile Dundee
The U.K. is negotiating a trade deal with the good folk of Australia … and all the bitter and twisted folk on here can do is find grievance. Which came as a complete surprise … to no one.
Keep going. These tactics have worked brilliantly for you.?
Name (required)
3 years ago
And of course, if the ‘meat’ is then re-packaged in these Great British isles it is classed as Great British ‘meat’.
Perfidious Albion lives.
Stoker
3 years ago
LOL! Thanks, Chris! Sad beyond belief that we will be losing the greatest political monitoring site with your weekly contributions. Saturday’s will truly not be the same. For many of us it is your ‘Toons’ that kickstart our weekends.
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On a similar note and another appeal to ‘His Nibs’ to reconsider:
“We had a deeply dispiriting day yesterday. Today, David Maddox and the Scotsman reminded us of why we started Wings Over Scotland in the first place and why its work is vital, and in doing so renewed our vigour and sense of purpose.” link to wingsoverscotland.com
Socrates MacSporran
3 years ago
My inner pedant forces me to suggest – most of the sheep in Australia are the merino breed, bred for wool rather than meat.
Any lamb or mutton coming in will more likely be from New Zealand, where the natives’ proclavity for “sheep worrying” has apparently meant a more-edible animal being bred.
Ottomanboi
3 years ago
«FIRST Minister Nicola Sturgeon and 26 other Glasgow politicians have sent a letter to Priti Patel urging a stop to dawn raids.
The cross-party letter said there is “no support or place” for the Home Office and UK Government’s immigration plan in Scotland.»
The National 22/5/2021
Not exactly we dare you to do your worst Patel, we’ll be ready and waiting for you from herself and those politicians.
Tease, tease, tease…..
Just bin it, chortles Priti, and now for an Aussie lamb kofta. Yummy!
Aye let’s import shite meat from abysmally treated animals across the greatest distance possible rather than nurture and protect our own producers and products , just so the soulless ciphers that comprise our ruling class can proclaim the success of their grand tax-avoidance scheme/scam and in the process provide utterly useless air-abusers like Blackford another opportunity to bleat ( pun intended ) about the injustice of it all whilst doing precisely fuck-all to prevent it .
And when the hill and other farmers go out of business our superiors from the beautiful south can come up and buy the once productive land for their pet projects and cheaply acquired lebensraum .
* Everyone’s * a winner in the great New Scotland sale of the century
…. and doubtless the loony crew in Australia are sharing stories and pictures of the natives in Scotland going after each other on sectarian lines and the cruelty of sheep stomachs being dragged out and used to serve offal as meat?
As I said Dan, picking fault with foreigners is a good tactic and it really works. Keep going.
Dave Hansell
3 years ago
Keep doffing that cap and tugging the forelock Davey boy. The life expectancy of vegetarians has just dramatically increased over those of your own.
Ah … and now we move on to wishing I’ll will to anyone that holds a different point of view.
Your agenda is so attractive, I can’t understand why everyone in Scotland isn’t on board.
Captain Yossarian
3 years ago
Regarding the school that’s sinking: I understand that the Holyrood parliamentarians, their civil-servants and lawyers who are involved in the cover-up were named yesterday.
Just like the Alex Salmond case, none of them have lost their job. Not one. Some have even been promoted.
World experts said this school will never work in 2017. That has been added to in recent weeks by Scottish experts and yet we still have silence from all at Holyrood.
Dorothy Devine
3 years ago
Welsh farmers are also expressing their rage .Being sold down the river by the Westminster government is something we should all be so used to that it is past remarking.
Sensible Dave says,picking fault with foreigners really works, Well the English should know they’ve been doing it for centuries,
They even managed brexit!
Doug
3 years ago
England still on track to destroy Scotland.
oneliner
3 years ago
I cannot remember where I read that Aldi Australia saw fit to run a TV commercial dissing the Scots accent. Someone of Scottish birth or extraction took them to court (I am unsure on what grounds) and lost their case.
The above case plus other evidence both viewed and anecdotal, plus their treatment of Asian immigrants, plus a John Pilger film on the horrendous treatment of Aborigine detainees – makes ripping the piss out of Australia fair game in my book.
I’ve read here on wings that is generally accepted that the Scottish government and senior ministers are all corrupt, the Scottish Judicial system is corrupt, the Scottish police are corrupt, etc.
Why would the good folk in Oz (or anyone else come to that) want to have a trade deal with such a shower?
Col.Blimp IV
3 years ago
Breeks
You will no doubt be pleased to learn; The SNP’s NEC have replaced the Women’s and Equalities Conveners, who went over to the dark side, with the very same people the membership recently voted out of office.
It looks like the dynamic duo have made a plea for more funding to the inquisition in order to crank the witch hunt for transpobes and misogynists current and historical, real and imaginary up to eleven or more.
James Che.
3 years ago
Good cartoon cris,
Farming is not dying off in Scotland, I heard we’re just gonna breed a different kind of animals.
First the land will be taken away from farmers that would normally pass on to their families,
Then the goverment will take over land to undermine the dangerous animals act, to breed bears, wolfs, bison, big cats, beavers, and great Muckle birds with sharp beaks and big talons, how cuddly
In preparation they are already clearing the land of its natural species, through fox hunting, culling deer, killing hedgehogs, crows, pigeons and fish, rabbits,
Creating an imbalance of nature in our country with more predators than prey,
It’s one way to keep you of the land though,
The fishermen done up like kippers. Now the farmers led like lambs to slaughter. Never mind folks as long as we British feel “Great” again. What’s not to like?
robertknight
3 years ago
Nicely sketched Chris.
The only ‘mandate’ the Dear Leader and her Generals are concerned with is the one whereby they’re mandated to pay lip-service to Indy for another 5 years and get paid handsomely whilst doing so.
O/T
Wasn’t yesterday fun? Couldn’t peel myself away from the news channels as watching the BBC getting a kicking was compelling viewing. We’ve had to put up with their twisted version of ‘news’ a.k.a propaganda for years, but because they’ve been caught telling porkies about something other than Scotland the sky has suddenly fallen in. Brilliant! Just don’t ask me to eat any more popcorn…
With an abundance of chemically spiked, hormone injected meat about to hit our shores (origin unknown – no labels of course), don’t worry – think how much cheaper it will be – at least until they destroy the quality home produce. Then they will charge anything they like for their crap. Maybe the safest bet is to go full veggie.
Is your point that we should just stop our friends and neighbours in the EU from fishing in U.K. waters completely, and that it’s not our problem to worry about how those folk in France, Spain, etc earn a living and feed their families? Asking for a friend.
Republicofscotland
3 years ago
Spot on Chris, it looks like it will be a zero-quota arrangement with Australia, which will inevitably allow Aussie beef and lamb to undercut the price, and ergo eventually the standards of Scottish produce.
The effects will be devastating to the Scottish beef and lamb farming industry, of course like the fishing industry which is now on the way down, a Tory this time Justice Secretary Robert Buckland said that farmers would not be undercut because of the deal.
Of course we expect this government to attempt to destroy the Scottish economy, as its doing it now, a leopard can’t change its spots as they say.
I blame Sturgeon the Betrayer for allowing Johnson to impose this on Scotland, she’s had six years as FM and we’re not one step closer to exiting this awful onesided union. The Betrayer should’ve listened to calls to make May ‘s vote a plebiscite but she ignored the calls for it.
Instead Sturgeon the Betrayer will focus on pointing the finger of blame towards Westminster to curry favour in Scotland without actually doing anything to get us out of this union. Meanwhile our beef and lamb faring industry will take a nosedive.
Robert Hughes
3 years ago
Robert Knight @ 10.16
Aye the BBC is grovelling in pathetic mea culpas now simply because the Establishment is faux-outraged at the treatment of one of their own
Yet we’ll not hear a whisper of apology for the despicable treatment and bias they dealt people like Jeremy Corbyn and Alex Salmond ie the disgraceful hatchet-job that was Kirsty Wark’s ” investigation ” – insisting on his guilt despite the unambiguous verdicts of the majority-female jury – and it’s continuous anti-Independence propaganda , in particular from it’s branch office @ BBC Jockland .
And let’s not forget how Saville was still employed by them despite his sick behaviour being common knowledge in media circles for years .
Ruby
3 years ago
Does the deal come with free movement of people?
Asking for some friends who fancy moving.
Will the deal include ‘Australians’ joining Olympic Team GB?
It’s rumoured that Australia will win all the gold medals because they have been training hard while everyone else is in lockdown.
Ian Brotherhood
3 years ago
If we’re ‘doing’ all things Australian, here’s Germaine Greer schooling Kirsty Wark on the whole ‘trans’ stushie. Not sure how old it is, someone said it was 2015, on Newsnight.
Neonicotinoids killing the bees, “ …their use is still permitted for oilseed rape in countries like Ukraine, Australia, Canada, which export vegetable oils and margarine.
Chlorpyrifos is also used in Australia. “ …same class of chemicals as sarin nerve gas – is associated with reduced IQ, attention disorders, (ask SensibleDave what it tastes like), and autism in children and infants. Banned in Scotland since 2016.
And so is Chlorothalonil, a fungicide to kill mildew on crops which also kills fish and amphibians. EU members made May 20, 2020 the cut-off date after which it became illegal to store and use.
Even the veggies aren’t safe, and as somebody has already commented earlier, your food labelling won’t be kept to the standard we’ve become accustomed to, so good luck trying not to eat this shit.
James Che.
3 years ago
Sensible Dave.
I agree with you, the same type of governments keeps repeating in England and Scotland.
The” To wee, Too poor” mantra turns into to stupid by default if Scotland farmers and fishermen allow this to happen,
We have had the ability to feed and look after our own nation for many years, without importing it in to our country.
From famous Aberdeen Angus beef cattle, dairies, wheat, barley, potatoes, vegetables and fruit, wool and fabrics , whiskey , pop drinks and juices , great water supplies , plus water and wind power, boat building , to name a few,
Producing these products and retailing them in our own corner shops instead of to gigantic stores like Tesco’s or Asda etc,
And excess products to the rest of the world gave Scotland massive employment, from the beginning of these processes to the end including shipping and harbours,
The whole population of Scotland is actually less than the population of London. We have more than enough to make us a wealthy country that is self sufficient,
The reason most of our trade goes to England is because of the treaty of the union, Trade was its purpose.
One has to question why are all these skills and crafts that have made Scotland famous, been reduced to universal credit,
Republicofscotland
3 years ago
Tonight Scots boxer Josh Taylor will attempt to unify four world championship boxing belts, a first for any Scot. Taylor has won Silver and Gold Commonwealth medals. Yet the contest wit Jose Ramirez, won’t be broadcast by BT or Sky sports.
Of course if it were Anthony Joshua or Tyson Fury boxing for the four world champion belts, Sky Sport and BT Sports would be all over it.
I say good luck to young Josh, bring home the belts to Scotland, we at least acknowledge your achievements.
Captain Yossarian
3 years ago
James Che – Highland Spring water was sold to the Arabs years ago. You can now find Highland Spring next to San Pellegrino in most Arab supermarkets throughout the world.
We’ve been importing beef from RoI and lamb from NZ for decades now. It was on the news last night that imports from Australia are unlikely to have a significant effect on the UK market.
Ruby
3 years ago
“The UK’s main goods exports to Australia are cars, pharmaceuticals and Scotch whisky.”
Which cars & how many?
Can the UK compete against Japan, Thailand & Korea in the Australian car market?
Will the deal make any difference to the sales of Scotch whisky? It’s not as if Australia can go elsewhere.
No idea what these pharmaceuticals are.
Doesn’t sound like a very good deal for the UK could it be there is more to it. Something involving financial services perhaps?
Cag-does-thinking
3 years ago
Sometimes those cartoons hit the nail on the head. Great job.
oneliner
3 years ago
@Sensibledave
Selective reporting – makes the MSM world go round
Ruby
3 years ago
Captain Yossarian says:
It was on the news last night that imports from Australia are unlikely to have a significant effect on the UK market.
Reply
Were they reading a report prepared by the UK Gov?
link to archive.is
“However, the Financial Times has reported that Australia’s top beef exporter expects to increase sales to the UK by 10 times should a deal go through. Australian beef is produced intensively and more cheaply than its UK equivalent. UK farmers appear to reject the idea that meat produced in the UK to higher standards will find a market in Australia, and potentially at a higher price.”
Is trying to selling beef & lamb to Australia not similar to trying to sell ‘coals to Newcastle’ ‘snow to Eskimos’ or ‘sand to Arabs’?
J.o.e
3 years ago
O/T but remember that while we are all in varying degrees of being worked up about this or that economic or political matter we are being coerced into the position where we have 2 choices in life – accept experimental (yes, that’s right) medical products for which manufacturers have been given legal immunity(yes, that’s right), for which we are officially the test subjects (yes, that’s right), based on obviously inaccurate statistics and media hype (yes, that’s right)or live a life as a prisoner unable to function in society while being stigmatized by the same media and establishment.
Im also of the very strong opinion – any leader or would-be leader of the Scots who is not at least expressing concerns about this is not someone you should put much faith in, especially if they are repeating the establishment narrative.
Even the yanks are starting to fall out of love with Trump for the same reason.
Very shortly the children of our nation will be receiving these medical technologies.
We are at the point at where we each find out what we are made of.
Your silence and lack of critique now will be your legacy and you will deserve the dystopian future that you find yourself in.
Oh- if the comment doesn’t get deleted, say the term ‘conspiracy theory’ in any answer to this and I will dismiss it because at this point in order to simply dismiss these concerns with that term means you are either an A-grade fucking idiot or a shill.
Derek
3 years ago
What’s his name and where’re you going?
(sorry)
Effigy
3 years ago
Remember a couple of years back it was uncovered that
many meat processors in the U.K. were using cheap horse
meat and meats having their sell by date amended.
Would these crooks be disturbed to toss in some kangaroo
or crocodile meat into your pies for an extra profit margin.
The Westminster way is to lie, cheat and rob then rally together
with some fake shock before covering up and continuing after
closing down the whistle blowers.
Ruby – Increasing it by a factor of ten is still nothing Ruby as they export next to nothing to us at the moment.
Ian
3 years ago
Since there’s not much to read/watch about independence these days, maybe this is the time to focus on the mighty UK’s economic history. As always, it makes a lot of sense to see how others report on the UK.
Or take a view from the UK of the UK up to the start of Thatcherism in 1980 –
‘Britain has now been in decline for a hundred years. It has become the most observed and analysed decline in modern history, provoking a speculative literature of enormous dimensions. Few explanations have not been proffered, few causes not dissected, few remedies not canvassed at least twice. The decline has been the central fact about British politiCs for a century, a major preoccupation of its public intellectuals and intermittently but increasingly of its political leaders. Two processes stand out -the absolute decline in the power and status of the British imperial state, and the relative decline ofthe British economy with its long-standing failure to match the rates of expansion of its rivals.’
Since the 1980’s, the privatisation of public assets (selling the family silver) has been the major economic policy of all of the UK Governments. Often these UK Public companies were sold to Governments in other countries.
Now if only the UK could have had a lottery win, say around 1980, then this sell-off could have been avoided and the UK would have thrived in a Global Britain mk II.
Added to this lottery win time period is the moral question of successive UK Governments hiding the McCrone report findings from the public from 1975 for 30 years, while at the same time pissing away the lottery windfall.
So Stu started Wings because he was “Identifying a gap in the market”?
Er, no you fking clowns, the only ones who start blogs hoping to make a career out of it are vapid teenage girls – “professional bloggers” stumble into it as it takes up more of their time and they find themselves eventually having to decide what makes the better income.
If Stu had been doing this for business purposes, routinely telling the media and those in economic and political power to go do one was a funny way of going about it.
There’s much bitching about him being Bath-based. Well, when you watch your English neighbours learn the lesson you get the politics and politicians you deserve, and vote accordingly (bye bye northern Labour!), there’s another reason for chucking it. If Scots are determined to keep stumbling in the same old potholes, it’s a bit pointless warning them continually or telling them maybe if they filled them in this wouldn’t happen. You can’t fix wilful stupidity.
As for asking David “The Man Of A Hundred Job Titles” Leask for expert opinion, that’s like asking a Herald journalist to write an objective piece about Rangers!
Nope, Stu’s just decided he’d sooner have fun – quite right too and is now stepping back as he said he would last year to allow events to take their course.
When the disasters for Scottish nationalism he warned of come to pass, when it all proves a house of cards collapsing upon woke foundations shakier than a PPI school under the weight of Sturgeon’s enormous moon orbited ego, don’t be expecting him to ride back on his white charger to save the day.
Grouse Beater
3 years ago
Scotland’s railways have become ‘British’ possessions overnight!
“As I said Dan, picking fault with foreigners is a good tactic and it really works. Keep going.”
So you’ve somehow managed to interpret the words of the President of the National Farmers Union of Scotland, where he is pointing out that the UK Prime Minister has failed to take on board the advice of U.K. farmers, environmentalists and consumers who are interested in animal welfare standards and food production systems, as somehow picking fault with foreigners…
Cenchos
3 years ago
Meerkat alert:
MSM running diversionary UFO stories
Socrates MacSporran
3 years ago
Grouse Beater @ 12.16pm
Another belter Gareth, more poweer to your elbow.
Ottomanboi
3 years ago
United Kingdom and British, key words in the «cancel culture» signified by the political status quo
English history, English literature the over arching terms within which cultural Scotland is constrained to operate.
The conflation of the terms English with British goes on in the promotion of a one-size-fits-all Unionism.
The minister whose portfolio includes «culture» has the following interests.
[Outside politics Robertson is a music fan, and particularly likes Metallica and Belle and Sebastian. He is a supporter of the Heart of Midlothian football team.]
Wikipedia.
So we may expect little from that quarter.
Shona
3 years ago
Perfect Chris, thanks. If we didn’t laugh we’d cry 🙂
Cenchos
3 years ago
I take it Robertson isn’t a great fan of Metallica’s fourth studio album, though.
Shona
3 years ago
Hope your friend is better Stuart.
Don
3 years ago
@Sensibledave 22 May, 2021 at 10:22 am
“Is your point that we should just stop our friends and neighbours in the EU from fishing in U.K. waters completely, and that it’s not our problem to worry about how those folk in France, Spain, etc earn a living and feed their families? Asking for a friend.”
Err if they earn their living from fishing then why can’t they fish in their own waters instead of ours ? Asking for a Scottish Fisherman friend. The answer is of course “no reason at all”
James Che – it’s WHISKY. ‘Whiskey’ is Irish or American.
Meg merrilees
3 years ago
James Che @10.47
I was reading an article a couple of days ago about how the WM Gov wants to give farmers 100k to retire so that, allegedly, younger farmers can take over because they are more receptive to modern methods which are greener.
i.e. they will accept GM crops and won’t want to raise our own meat because of methane emissions so we can import all sorts of stuff and get better trade deals.
I can’t imagine that this is driven by an urge to ‘go organic’.
Don
3 years ago
J.o.e 22 May, 2021 at 11:24 am
“O/T but remember that while we are all in varying degrees of being worked up about this or that economic or political matter we are being coerced into the position where we have 2 choices in life – accept experimental (yes, that’s right) medical products for which manufacturers have been given legal immunity(yes, that’s right), for which we are officially the test subjects (yes, that’s right), based on obviously inaccurate statistics and media hype (yes, that’s right)or live a life as a prisoner unable to function in society while being stigmatized by the same media and establishment.
Im also of the very strong opinion – any leader or would-be leader of the Scots who is not at least expressing concerns about this is not someone you should put much faith in, especially if they are repeating the establishment narrative.
Very shortly the children of our nation will be receiving these medical technologies.
Your silence and lack of critique now will be your legacy and you will deserve the dystopian future that you find yourself in.
Oh- if the comment doesn’t get deleted, say the term ‘conspiracy theory’ in any answer to this and I will dismiss it because at this point in order to simply dismiss these concerns with that term means you are either an A-grade fucking idiot ”
======================================================
And YOU go Off Topic why ? Because of your need need to spread you own “Fucking idiot ” invented conspiracy theories that is why.
“The vaccines approved for use in the UK have met strict standards of safety, quality and effectiveness set out by the independent Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA).
Any COVID-19 vaccine that is approved must go through all the clinical trials and safety checks all other licensed medicines go through. The MHRA follows international standards of safety.
Other vaccines are being developed. They will only be available on the NHS once they have been thoroughly tested to make sure they are safe and effective.
So far, millions of people have been given a COVID-19 vaccine and reports of serious side effects, such as allergic reactions or clotting problems, have been very rare.” link to nhs.uk
Don
3 years ago
@ Meg merrilees 22 May, 2021 at 1:09 pm
“I was reading an article a couple of days ago about how the WM Gov wants to give farmers 100k to retire so that, allegedly, younger farmers can take over because they are more receptive to modern methods which are greener.
i.e. they will accept GM crops and won’t want to raise our own meat because of methane emissions so we can import all sorts of stuff and get better trade deals.
I can’t imagine that this is driven by an urge to ‘go organic’.”
You can’t imagine ? Seems unlikely because the article you read actually suggested none of these things did it and you yoruself just actually “imagined them” yourself ? Too funny.
Davie Oga
3 years ago
mike cassidy says:
22 May, 2021 at 1:05 pm
I wasn’t going to post again
“But this has to be publicised far and wide
Transcotlandia is already here
And they’re coming for you”
Good luck getting inward investment with the HCB on the statute book. I’ll never return to Scotland as long as the SNP are in power.
Off to enjoy my white privilege of a 80 hour work week to support my family.
Republicofscotland
3 years ago
Don’t you just adore Sturgeon the Betrayers virtual signalling over the Home office’s snatch and grab of the men from a Glasgow street, I don’t recall seeing her in Kenmure street, lying under the van, yet again I don’t recall seeing her at AUOB marches either. The Betrayer prattles on about how Scotland stand for freedom and democracy, and how Scotland opposes the HO decision, which is all very well if you are going to hold an indyref to get out of this absurd union, and set our own immigration rules.
However yet again Sturgeon the Betrayer is just playing to the Scottish gallery of Westminster bad, and look here, I will speak out about it but that’s as far as I’ll go. Sturgeon the Betrayer, only ever wants to portray herself and her party in a good versus evil Holyrood and Westminster struggle, but she won’t actually go any further no indyref that’s for sure, what a charlatan she is, and the majority of the uninformed Scottish public buy it hook line and sinker.
I think the main issue here is knowing all about your food source from origin to table, to hold higher standards for the well-being of land, animals, humans and the planet.
Not for trade deals for quick bucks and government,
Home grown is always best.
Sorry for to those whom thought I did dodgy spelling, had a visitor in bye as I was writing. Concentration not as it should be maybe.
Having said that, my schooling was in a corrugated tin hut in a forest, with a one Victorian teacher that was well past retirement, in the hills of Argyll before it became known to the outside world,
Not even a proper road to our house, Doctor used to use canoe up the loch in summer,
I do think I may make errors in the future here, so no shame felt by me,
, for a limited education and not being a drinker I think I do rather well.
Ruby
3 years ago
Captain Yossarian says:
22 May, 2021 at 12:04 pm
Ruby – Increasing it by a factor of ten is still nothing Ruby as they export next to nothing to us at the moment.
Reply
If the UK exports next to no goods to Australia and Australia exports next to no goods to the UK what’s the big deal about the Australian trade deal?
Captain Yossarian
3 years ago
It will increase imports and exports significantly. You might be able to buy cheap Australian beef at Lidl for example, but not anywhere else. That’s my reading of it.
J.o.e
3 years ago
@Don
‘Because of your need need to spread you own “Fucking idiot ” invented conspiracy theories’
Sorry Don, you failed
But for what its worth the vaccines are not approved. They are still in the testing stage as per manufacturers statement. The reason they are being rolled out is because they were given emergency use authorisation
They got emergency use authorisation because of the lockdowns.
The lockdowns were ‘justified’ due to fraudulent PCR tests that I detailed in an earlier thread.
So yes – A-grade fucking idiot or shill.
Make a choice
James Che.
3 years ago
James
However the one thing I was taught really well, was manners and respect towards others, smiley face and a wink.
Ruby
3 years ago
Lady Heehaw 🙂
Did anyone spot the ‘the Morphy Richard’s Iron’
in that video?
Not easy to find the correct meaning/origin of the phrase
‘Heehaw’.
I had to wade through loads of stuff about loud, harsh cries of donkeys or mules, cachinnation, cackle, guffaw, laugh, laughter, cachinnate, die laughing, laugh-one-s-head-off, roll-in-the-aisles, split-one-s-sides and sounds.
Tut Google! I said heehaw not yee-haw
Finally I found this: 🙂
“Scottish vernacular meaning nothing or very little. Comes from Glaswegian rhyming slang for “F**k aw” (“aw” being vernacular for “all”).!”
Republicofscotland
3 years ago
“Captain Yossarian says:
22 May, 2021 at 2:57 pm
It will increase imports and exports significantly. You might be able to buy cheap Australian beef at Lidl for example, but not anywhere else. That’s my reading of it.”
Oh pray tell where did you dig that little gem up.
Lidl is a well known promoter of Scottish produce, one of the few to do so.
From the news last night. It will increase the volume of Australian beef in our shops by 0.1%. I said Lidl just as an example.
Michael McCabe
3 years ago
You are doing alright as far as I am concerned James.
Stoker
3 years ago
AN ABSOLUTE DISGUSTING ABUSE OF POWER.
mike cassidy says on 22 May, 2021 at 1:05 pm
“I wasn’t going to post again. But this has to be publicised far and wide. Transcotlandia is already here. And they’re coming for you”
Captain Yossarian says:
22 May, 2021 at 2:57 pm
It will increase imports and exports significantly. You might be able to buy cheap Australian beef at Lidl for example, but not anywhere else. That’s my reading of it.
Reply
Is there something wrong with Australian beef?
Will it be boycotted by Waitrose customers?
Australian beef only good enough for the plebs?
What are these other imports & exports you refer to?
Ruby
3 years ago
Captain Yossarian says:
22 May, 2021 at 3:18 pm
From the news last night. It will increase the volume of Australian beef in our shops by 0.1%. I said Lidl just as an example.
Reply
News read by Lord HawHaw?
Ruby
3 years ago
James Che. says:
22 May, 2021 at 3:07 pm
James
However the one thing I was taught really well, was manners and respect towards others, smiley face and a wink.
Reply
Just incase you fancy doing a 🙂
or a 😉 etc
)-: for smiley face
)-; a wink
(-: frown
above is a mirror image. Reverse order of ( & : ;
– always in the middle ) or ( last : ; first.
Finger crossed this works
Breeks
3 years ago
Captain Yossarian says:
22 May, 2021 at 2:57 pm
It will increase imports and exports significantly. You might be able to buy cheap Australian beef at Lidl for example, but not anywhere else. That’s my reading of it.
The volume of beef isn’t the point. It’s that Scottish beef producers will need to cut their standards to keep their prices competitive just to sell their product, and compromising their standards means production begins to diverge away from European standards restricting their capacity to export to Europe.
When you cater for the lowest common denominator, the lowest common denominator determines what your standards are. Ordinary farmers never speak to the supermarkets or food processing companies. The farmer takes his beasts to sales and auctions, and he’ll feel the effect through the prices his livestock fetch, not the shelf price in Lidl’s.
You might be able to buy steak with a saltire, at a premium cost, but all the beef in pies, lasagnas, shepherds pies, processed foods and ready meals will not pick and choose on principle, and the hard earned prestige of “Scotch Beef” will be downgraded. The bar has been lowered.
Meg merrilees
3 years ago
Don @ 1.25 pm
You wrote – You can’t imagine ? Seems unlikely because the article you read actually suggested none of these things did it and you yoruself just actually “imagined them” yourself ? Too funny.
Sorry to burst your hilarity bubble but if you click on the link below you will read the very article I was discussing. Definitely too funny, ha ha ha!
Don’t bother apologising I appreciate that you can’t help being stupid.
Republicofscotland
3 years ago
“From the news last night. It will increase the volume of Australian beef in our shops by 0.1%. I said Lidl just as an example.”
Captain Yossarian.
Fair enough, but why add that you won’t find it anywhere else. Why wouldn’t you be able to buy cheap Aussie beef/lamb anywhere else, did your news programme say that its exclusive to Lidls.
Dan
3 years ago
After 2 hours spent wrestling a lawnmower across my lush lawn, I suggest it should be government policy to allocate households a sheep to keep their grass down.
This will save on the noise and fumes pollution of using a petrol mower, and generate organic waste to add sustenance to the soil for growing more veg.
Think global act local, and get a cleaner environment and a load of tasty lamb chops into the bargain.
Meg merrilees
3 years ago
Oh, and by the way, DON, just in case you didn’t quite understand the first article – here is another one.
That’s not the way I read it, Breeks. What they were saying was that the cost of importing the beef over that distance would negate any real cost benefit. They are more worried that it will open the door to future imports from the USA and South America, which could be a lot cheaper.
Al-Stuart
3 years ago
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Is it just me or has anyone else notice the mysterious (and very welcome) disappearance of ALL of the the under noted multiple-ID-troll aock-puppet accounts ALL AT THE SAME TIME…
Rock,,,
Kcor,,,
Stainless Steel,,,
Andy Three Commas,,,
Eugene Henderson,,,
Market Forces,,,
Hudson,,,
Labour4Indy,,,
Patrick Jones,,,
Flaccid Squaddie P45,,,
Gang Rape Gordy,,,
No complaints from this end.
Just that whoever the sad involuntary celibate was that hid behind all those names and had conversations with himself, herself or itself must either be in Barlinnie or a psych ward or Colchester Barracks awaiting Court Martial.
It’s like the stench of rotting fish, mixed with overpowering body odour has lifted from the Wings site and it is possible to breathe cleanly and debate with decent human beings again without the persistent, pervasive piss-filled rantings of a 77th Brigade’s worst kept secret. Double-OO-tosspot.
Scozzie
3 years ago
In my best Taggart voice – “There’s been a sticker” it’s the lampost victims I feel sorry for. Don’t worry Kirkcaldy police are on the case, call Crimestoppers – lamposts have feelz too.
Meanwhile, the war on women continues. Thought Police Scotland are doing their best to criminalise a mother of 2 special needs children for a tweet!
Football hooligans – aye you get a free pass.
Female tweeter – down to the cop shop for you.
I don’t even think Orwell could have predicted this farsical society that Scotland has become. Scotland this is your HCB in plain sight. I could weep.
Republicofscotland
3 years ago
AUOB had the right idea holding an indy demo outside Holyrood today,(cancelled due to Covid) though outside Bute House when Sturgeon the Betrayer is present would be preferable, especially if she were entertaining a foreign diplomat who might ask the odd awkward question.
Now AUOB is going to hold one next month, not outside Holyrood or Bute House, or even outside the Betrayers house in Glasgow, but on Bannockburn field, much to the relief of the Betrayer, out of sight out of mind as they say.
It will be the usual unfocused on the Betrayers lack of indy movement since she took the reins in 2015 as FM. Instead I imagine it will be just another happy clappy flag waving exercise with a few guest speakers, and a bit of music thrown in to keep the marchers entertained.
The AUOB needs to evolve from a happy clappy bagpipe playing tourist attraction, to a serious demo organisation that hounds Sturgeon the Betrayer at every turn to get on and deliver independence. Without this vital course of action Sturgeon the Betrayer will just ignore the AUOB, as she has done for years regardless of whether there’s 100,000 marchers or even 200,000 marchers.
James Che.
3 years ago
Ruby.
Thank you, and faith in nice people reinstated. Is this right? ( -:
Fancy that still learning at my age.
My My. The trolls are working very hard today, to play down the significance of this coming tariff-free beef deal with Australia, methinks. I have to admit, their imaginative efforts are impressive if not entirely believable. 🙂
Republicofscotland
3 years ago
On another note does anybody really care if the notorious lying state broadcaster the BBC duped the poncing royal Diana into giving an interview.
Royals are an affront to society, who receive huge amounts of state subsidies, the best of food, medical treatment and are cosseted from birth to death, at the taxpayers expense.
I would hope that an independent Scotland would dispense with this ruritanian nonsense, like many other countries have had the sense to do.
Let England keep its debauched royal family, Scotland has no need of it.
James Che.
3 years ago
Giving that the bbc is partially state funded, that would make them civil servants would it not?
Dan
3 years ago
@ ROS
I suggest the ceremonial laying of many carrots would make for an apt form a protest.
Captain Yossarian
3 years ago
Luigi – the ‘imaginative efforts’ are informed by last night’s news programmes. Try watching the news from time to time; it will inform you and make you less bitter.
Ottomanboi
3 years ago
As a door closes link to theguardian.com
Hey, ho another opens…..
They dont do meat or fishing in the home counties.
Let them eat brioche!
Dont ya just wish ya had a party that, fists ready, stood up for you!
David Hannah
3 years ago
Lemme tell ya ’bout your blood Brexit kid
It ain’t Kangeroo it’s lorne
Straight to hell boys
akenaton
3 years ago
Save your crocodile tears the farming community are really the pits, especially the hill farmers. Most of them have sold their hills for afforestation after buying them from the rest of us for next to fuck all.
I’ve worked for then for sixty years back and forward and they would skin a louse for its tallow.
When the Forestry Commission was winding up they sold all the farms to sitting tenants for knock down prices, plenty back handers about in these days.
What’s to stop them exporting on the free market? the price of Scotch lamb has been ridiculously high for years.
I we are going to make Brexit work we must take advantage of new trade deals and everybody will have to get the finger out.
Republicofscotland
3 years ago
I’m not buying into the soppy shit that Prince William found solace in Scotland after finding out the BBC were nasty to his mum. The future king of the UK, hopefully minus Scotland, who spent millions of taxpayers cash doing up his family home, was also said to be sitting in a beer garden in Edinburgh watching the Scottish cup Final.
In my opinion Willie is part of the love bombing plot aimed at Scotland to reinforce this God awful onesided union. Little does bald Willie know that Sturgeon the Betrayer has no plans for Scottish independence.
Dave Hansell
3 years ago
Davey boy 09:24:
Don’t you just love the projection on show here. Workhouse rules kid, if you can’t take it don’t dish it out.
There’s a whole lot of difference between a bit of verbal and actively supporting, as you clearly are, policy actions which will actually adversely affect the health of others through reducing the quality and standards of available food. Reducing choice.
So stop whining like a mardy arsed five year old. You sound like one of that section of the woke who kick the arse out of it.
willie
3 years ago
Quite frankly if Australian meat is of excellent quality and if it is cheaper than Scottish meat then I’ll certainly buy it.
No one owes our Scottish farmers, or their English – British counterparts a living. Too many farmers are well known for their grant grabbing yet Tory leaning inclinations. And as we know, like the hapless fishermen, they were pro Brexit.
So hell mend the Scottish farming and fishing sector. Good Australian beef at good prices – and hard luck for our now invisible Union Jack marketed Scottish meat industry.
James Barr Gardner
3 years ago
Socrates MacSporran says:
22 May, 2021 at 8:37 am
My inner pedant forces me to suggest – most of the sheep in Australia are the merino breed, bred for wool rather than meat.
Any lamb or mutton coming in will more likely be from New Zealand, where the natives’ proclavity for “sheep worrying” has apparently meant a more-edible animal being bred.
visit Jaggy.blog looks like Nicla may be going down the Independence in the UK road
willie
3 years ago
Yes and good New Zealand lamb too if it comes over at the right prices.
And as a further comment, has anyone noticed how our now Union Jack adorned beef prices have gone through the roof recently.
At a conservative guess I’d say there has been a 20% plus increase in beef prices over the last six months, and it looks like the meat industry is creaming their prices.
Yes, good quality Australian meat at good prices is what we want.
James Che. says:
22 May, 2021 at 4:27 pm
Ruby.
Thank you, and faith in nice people reinstated. Is this right? ( -:
Fancy that still learning at my age.
Reply
Everyday is a learning day. I learn something new everyday on Wings.
You’ve got your smiley face nearly right except it’s the wrong way round.
You do : – ) without spaces
If I remove the spaces I get 🙂
although the smiley face doesn’t show up until you upload it.
Meg merrilees
3 years ago
Dan @ 6.11
Just read Jagyy’s blog – thank you for the link. Has a scary last couple of sentences though!
…The Anglo-American Deep State might launch a clandestine dirty war to prevent that happening, which is a chilling prospect.But nothing compared to the Firth of Clyde being at the centre of a full-scale nuclear conflagration.
Roll on Indy!
Ruby
3 years ago
Dan says:
22 May, 2021 at 4:41 pm
@ ROS
I suggest the ceremonial laying of many carrots would make for an apt form a protest.
Reply
Yes! Dangling carrots.
I would like to suggest that if you want to dangle carrots from the parliament that you either knit or crochet your carrots if you cant do that then buy some plastic ones from Ebay 3 quid for 30 carrots.
Anywhere else dangling Value carrots should be fine.
The reason for this is that I don’t want the parliament rats being attracted by the fresh carrots & the neighbourhood being overrun by these parliament rats.
How many people saw one of the parliament rats running across the screen when she/her was being question by Maureen Watt?
These ladies knitted ‘Happy Birthday’ last year on 19th July for she/her’s birthday and pinned it to the railings in front of Bute House & St Andrews House.
Might be a good time & place to display your handywork.
Does anyone need me to repost instructions on how to knit, crochet & glue gun a a dangling carrot? 🙂
Effigy
3 years ago
OK Antipodean meat proves to be edible and slightly cheaper.
You are the type that doesn’t give a damn about well documented
cruelty to exported meats nor the environmental impact of transporting
animals 12,000 miles.
You are happy to see Scottish Farms closed and left to run wild.
You pay for the unemployment and now with no competition and
shortages here, who is going to guess which way the price of
Australian meat might go?
Exactly!
AWhiteLife
3 years ago
Geez, biatch, biatch, biatch about bojo & GB, UK gov, tories, England, English, tory voters + + +, now add Aussies, their farming methods, shit beef, shit lamb + + +. But hey, you all want to be baws deep in the EU and import any & every fvcker and home, feed, clothe & keep them and their multiple wives & children, the darker the better eh!. See here’s a wee clue why Scotland isn’t independent & why no snp or alba type party will ever get you your prized not independent independence. The majority of every day Scots don’t like working their ass off for 55 years scrimping & scraping while boat loads of gimmiegrants rock up in rubber boats and driven to their 3 + star hotels and 3 Square meals a day, £s , phones + + + all paid for by us normal folk, us that are no more Scottish than the new arrivals according to most of you. Most of us don’t want illegals outstanding their welcome, we want to work hard when able and to support our own before we support aliens. We don’t want our Parliament filled with 14 languages, we don’t want anyone making laws in our land who doesn’t either swear in on a Christian Bible or by affirming, a q’ran should NEVER be in our Parliament & no politician should ever display rainbows & trans sh1t anywhere. Our politicians are elected to represent us all, no out group should be given preferential treatment, and our schools should not be indoctrination camps for minorities. These are reasons you whiners are stuck with a duplicitous midwit & her midget gem for the next 5, 10, 20 years. But it’s all down to bojo, the tories, the….. in a nutshell, Scotland is fvcked because it’s just not Scottish enough for jock Thomson & his bairns.
Cenchos
3 years ago
I still have several hundred left-over Panini Football ’79 stickers in a drawer but I don’t know whether they are controversial: would it be on a case-by-case basis?
Davie Oga
3 years ago
Cenchos says:
22 May, 2021 at 7:06 pm
“I still have several hundred left-over Panini Football ’79 stickers in a drawer but I don’t know whether they are controversial: would it be on a case-by-case basis?”
Just get some markers, draw a dress on couple of them, maybe a bit faux eyeliner on one. If they come for you, tell them 1979 was transphobic so you’re correcting history. They like that sort of thing.
Cenchos
3 years ago
Aye. Alfie Conn had already transitioned by then.
wee monkey
3 years ago
From twitter..
“Rangers FC are taking legal action against Humza Yousaf (Scottish Heath Secretary, and former Scottish Justice Secretary) after police cleared players of using sectarian language during title celebrations..”
So will this be even more public money being diverted, via the courts, to RFC?
The Isolator
3 years ago
@AWhiteLife
“The majority of every day Scots don’t like working their ass off for 55 years scrimping & scraping while boat loads of gimmiegrants rock up in rubber boats and driven to their 3 + star hotels and 3 Square meals a day, £s , phones + + + all paid for by us normal folk, us that are no more Scottish than the new arrivals according to most of you.”
Trust me your anything but normal if you’ve worked for 55 years in the Yookay.
Dan
3 years ago
@ Cenchos
You’re probably straying into dubious legality mentioning that you own such merchandise.
I feel I am also on dodgy territory, as I helped a couple of older folk clear their houses when they downsized, but due to lockdown I am still in possession of boxes of stuff from a bygone era as I’ve been unable to get rid of it all to the charity shops.
TBF I can make use of some of the women’s clothes what with the transing, but some of the boxes of books and magazines are not what would be classed as politically correct in these modern times.
Take for instance the BUNTY comic No.233 “A Dog’s Life For Donna”. The title reeks of poor Donna being refereed to in a derogatorily manner and enduring an oppressed existence.
(Incidentally the only Donna I knew was a cracker of a lass from Orkney, but I digress).
Also of concerning is the pile of SCOTS magazines which still have cigarette advertising on the rear cover, which presumably breaches modern day plain packaging legislation.
I’m driven to drink as I sit worrying that the chap on the door will come and I’ll be charged with possession of illegal material condoning Hate Crime and the stylish promotion of Dunhill and Peter Stuyvesant smokes.
Cenchos
3 years ago
Oh God. There’s a Black Bob annual as well.
Pixywine
3 years ago
Don. You’re gullible or a Government shill. Which is it? Theses”vaccines” are being treated as an experiment by insurance companies. Prove me wrong. In Thailand people are being arrested for refusing the vaccine.Children don’t need to be vaccinated. I’m sick of snake oil salesmen with Government ministers owning shares in their Gene therapy experiment.
Pixywine
3 years ago
The irony of the comments about tainted food from another country while our Governments are trying to make us take DNA altering Gene therapies is grimly amusing
Pixywine
3 years ago
Complaining about New Zealand lamb.. Is this a local shop for local people? Is this Royston Vasey?
Is it possible to have something that is fucked and then fuck it even some more??
Dan
3 years ago
@ Cenchos
Just be glad you don’t own The Broons Non Contentious Colours, or Oor Wullie Unspecified Sexual Genitalia annuals…
Pixywine
3 years ago
I hope Rangers win against Yusuf. The SNP attacks their culture. It may be low culture…. but it is still their culture.
Pixywine
3 years ago
Luigi. Do you know any farmers? People get what they vote for even if its a surprise to them. Fuck them. You’ll still eat well. Just make sure it’s properly cooked… in clean kitchen equipment. No worries no drame. Let the Farmers do all the worrying.
Willie
3 years ago
Good evening Effigy, I appreciate the emotive nature of your response that Australian meats might prove to be edible. They are in fact that and more. I’ve stayed there.
I also appreciate the emotive nature of your comment about loss of Jobs, who’ll pay the unemployment benefit and so on if folks don’t buy British.
I used to make the biggest effort possible not to buy British but buy Scottish. Beef, lamb, pork, chicken, vegetables – the lot. Good for local employment, good for food miles, and good because I thought it was good quality.
But those days are gone. Out of the EU it is a race to the bottom whether it be chlorinated chicken or the use of herbicides priorly banned, or in worker protections. That the UK Internal Market Bill has removed all manner of powers from the Scottish Parliament gives mechanism to these changes.
But you know what Effigy, this sadly is what the great Scottish public voted for. We gave a signal not to leave the EU, but voted for a party who did not stop it. We voted for a party who I believe is not committed to independence, who deliberately promoted the squandering of 1,094,000 second votes.
Yeh, I’m pro Scotland but is the general public pro Scotland. Of course they are not. Too many don’t care. A nation, a proud nation, who’s like us – aye we know the story.
So yes, buy Australian if it’s a better deal. That after all is what we voted for.
Pixywine
3 years ago
Anyone who believes the NHS on covid vaccine is being misled. Go to UK Columns website to get the inside story from whistle-blower nurses. Northern Approaches with David Scott is worth a look also. Sadly there are no left wing sites or commentators I can advise because the Left have fallen for Global Bankers pre-planned “Pandemic” If covid 19 is a pandemic why is has barely anyone died of it recently? All you hear about are “cases cases cases” but no deaths. Funny old pandemic that.
Don. Do you work for the pharmaceutical industry?
Pixywine
3 years ago
The PCR test is the full rum of Government policy and it is being improperly used in order to achieve apparently positive result.
Where are all the dead people? Come on. Bring out your dead.
Davie Oga
3 years ago
Pixywine.
I’m the undecided but I have an open mind.
Give me your best three links that prove Covid is a scam
Brian Doonthetoon
3 years ago
Hi AWhiteLife at 6:52.
Your contribution was unreadable at this time of night, due to your overuse of +++ (what kind of grammar is that?), and your lack of paragraph breaks, and my partaking of Bell’s and Iron Brew (Lidl).
Verdict?
Must try harder…
Pixywine
3 years ago
Stoker. If the policewoman had a case she would be at the door with an arrest Warren. No one should ever attend a police interview without a lawyer. Just keep ignoring them. It’s a police “fishing expedition. I hope Marian Miller sees this.
Pixywine
3 years ago
Marian Millar. The police want you to attend an “interview” because she wants to sit with one of her colleagues, get you on your own and trick you into incriminating yourself. GET A LAWYER.
Pixywine
3 years ago
Marion. If the Police have a case against you they’ll come to your door. They’re fishing.
Pixywine
3 years ago
We’ll come to Tyranny. All of a piece with covid medical Tyranny. Join the dots children.
Pixywine
3 years ago
Dave Oga Check out Reiner Feulmich on his YouTube channel. You could always surf the net yourself.
Derek
3 years ago
My objection to importing meat from Australia/NZ concerns food mileage; something that’s been much talked-about with regard to global warming. The airlines’re itching to get back to the old normal and don’t want discussion of lower-emissions travel – taking the train to London rather than flying, for example.
We’ve had an idle year to discuss/implement different ways of doing things to combat this, and nothing’s happened.
willie
3 years ago
Derek, buying locally produced Scottish produce was a big thing for me. Good for local jobs, good for food miles.
But these days are gone. You cant identify Scottish produce under the blanket Union Jack branding.
The farmers and producers of this food have hitherto have in the majority cared little of their identity. Tory voting, brexit supporting, subsidy loving the industry is now getting what it voted for.
The country in fact is getting what it voted for, so what’s the beef, if that be the appropriate word.
Scotland the brand is finished. We need to get used to that Derek.
t42
3 years ago
More focus on hormone injected beef.
Less focus on hormone injected twitter beefs.
Heard a fine tune called ‘grouse beater’ on radio shortbreads marvelous Pipeline earlier.
Very suitable.
Heartening to see the pish being ripped out of St Nic and co.
More of this please, they defo don’t like it.
Big Jock
3 years ago
Pixy. Nonsense. Rangers actually live in denial of their celtic-Gaelic culture. Instead they have an invented British union Ulster ideology. It’s not a culture at all.
Just a hate fest directed at Scottishness, Irishness,Catholicism and anyone else who gets in their way.
The legal action is a veiled threat. I repeat again. The police have not said the video was fake or the singing never happened. Only no proven criminality.
Stop falling for the Rangers diversion techniques. They are trying to divert you from their scumbag fans and the actual things that happened.
–
Effigy
3 years ago
The Police continue to show their corrupt unionism in more
and more obvious forms as who is there to call when their
acts are criminal?
I could recognise a hundred law breaking fans committing a multitude
of crimes from video clips on the internet but who have the police searched
or appealed for to come forward? No one.
The police wear body cameras, some of their vehicles have CCTV, there is street CCTV
but there doesn’t seem enough proof that these are Celtic fans in Rangers tops so they leave it.
We are accused of throwing our face into the law abiding knuckle dustered fist of the police.
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Pixywine
3 years ago
Big Jock. So you speak Gealig?
mel
3 years ago
Everyone’s an expert now meat import and export.
We already import more lamb from New Zealand than we export to the EU. But not much difference. Though overall we import more lamb than we export. Not much from Australia though. And as I can remember eating New Zealand lamb as a child, which would be the 1960s, nothing new about meat trade, especially for a country who is a net importer of meat.
Of course lamb is a seasonal meat and the Antipodes produce at a different time to ourselves.
But hey, lets not let facts get in the way of a good grievance.
Now, if you were to be as concerned about transportation of live animals, I’d back you all the way. We followed a truck from the top of Skye coming of Lewis to the mainland, one of the sheep had its head stuck for the whole journey. We stopped the driver and he thought we were mad to be concerned. Personally I can’t think of a single reason why live animals have to be exported.
Pixywine
3 years ago
I think the real problem with Rangers fans here is that they have proved by their actions that there is no “pandemic” to be afraid of. So. All you “lockdown” queen’s out there can crawl out if your holes and get back to your lives. Stop falling for the same propaganda about India that many fell for a year ago.
Pixywine
3 years ago
Dave Oga. Try Dr Sam Bailey on YouTube.
Balaaargh
3 years ago
Pixywine,
Why don’t you put the bottle down, take the clown makeup off and leave the junk science youtube alone. You’ll feel much better for it in the morning.
Charles Hodgson
3 years ago
We buy direct from the farm. Top quality at reasonable prices. Australian imports will have no effect on us.
Aren’t I great? I sound like one of those Barbour jacket wankers.
It’s true though. Look into supporting local farms and business more than ever. Westminster cant stop us doing that.
Charles Hodgson
3 years ago
Pixywine is right.
Covid was over last Summer. They’ve been scamming us out of our rightful lives and freedoms since then.
Why we’re not at Holyrood with pitchforks I do not understand.
Sturgeon’s atrocious action in putting Glasgow in level 3 at the last moment, when it was too late for hospitality businesses to cancel orders, and with staff booked, was pure evil.
Only one persons job matters in Scotland.
And we’ve just handed the bitch another 5 years.
Charles Hodgson
3 years ago
By “we” I mean collectively. I wouldn’t vote for the ginger goblin or her scumbag enablers if my life depended on it.
Hugh Jarse
3 years ago
“Aren’t I great? I sound like one of those Barbour jacket wankers.”
Everyone to their own Charles, but that’s pretty niche.
Wipe clean though.
😉
Saffron Robe
3 years ago
The greatest cost in all this is the cost to the environment – the pollution caused by transporting refrigerated produce thousands of miles around the world. In these times of ecological crisis we should be producing and shopping locally which, for us, means Scottish produce with Scottish standards.
Not only is such hair-brained thinking environmentally catastrophic, it is also economically devastating for local farmers whether they be English, Scottish or Welsh; sacrificed at the altar of political desperation and intellectual bankruptcy.
Personally, as a vegetarian, I would like to see an end to the meat trade and animal slaughter altogether.
Willie
3 years ago
Could not agree more Saffron Robe that we should not be refrigerating meat and sending it all the way round the globe. The logic of not shopping locally and supporting locally produced provenance escapes me too.
But that is exactly what we voted for. You cannot odds it any other way. Brexit and trade deals like this with Australia is I repeat what we voted for. And the destruction of the choice to buy Scottish produce identified as Scottish. Well just take a stroll down the meat and vegetable counters and look at the extent to which produce is now identified and emblazoned with the Union Jack. That didn’t happen by accident either.
Scotland the brand, and in fact the country is being wiped off the shoe as surely as a piece of dirt is wiped off one’s shoe – and does the average consumer voter care. Or does our elected pretend parliament in Edinburgh care.
Course not their focus is GRA, HCA and other such pressing matters. Who’s like us – Eh?
Davie Oga
3 years ago
Pixywine says:
23 May, 2021 at 12:29 am
“Dave Oga. Try Dr Sam Bailey on YouTube.”
Ta. That’s what I was looking for. Someone who can explain using scientific truths.
Im working abroad just now, where there is mandatory mask wearing outdoors. Very uncomfortable in the heat. I took video yesterday of this old bodach walking alone, no one within 50 metres, stopping everyone once in while to take the mask off his nose to breath. He was obviously distressed. Wicked. A government terrorising its people for no valid reason
even if this invidious charade was based in fact.
Shocked
3 years ago
Misses the point that the biggest threat to Scottish farming are Irish imports. We import more beef from Ireland than the entire Scottish beef production. A lot of beef that comes from Ireland isn’t even Irish, it’s polish or Romanian raised in substandard conditions. Queen Nicola would quite happily destroy the country to feed her vanity.
Shocked
3 years ago
Also got to laugh at the “proud Scottish patriots” on here who are happy for Scottish farming to be thrown to the dogs… mind you when you haven’t worked a day in yer rotten life it would be hard to appreciate how frustrating it is to knock yer pan in 24/7 in all weathers for zero return. The New SNP1 crowd descend further into the cesspit every day, these people could not give a damn about Scotland or it’s people.
Effigy
3 years ago
A Scottish Boxer, Josh Taylor won his fight in
Las Vagas last night to become the first Scot
to unify his title by now holding all 4 versions
for his weight category.
He proudly upheld his country’s flag, the Saltire on winning.
Strangely for such a big important history making event, we
Couldn’t see it here in Scotland.
BBC news did give a photo and 15 seconds on the story after
30 seconds of Formula 1 drivers practicing before a race and 30
seconds of talk and videos discussing a possible Tyson Fury Vs
Anthony Joshua fight at some time in the future.
Oh and a full length interview with English Swimmer Peaty who
won a gold medal yesterday.
Effigy
3 years ago
Just watched some clips of the Eurovision Song Contest.
There were some stinkers in there and England’s GB entry
wasn’t so bad compared to other but it got Zero Points.
That score wasn’t down to the performance on the stage but
the performance of the U.K. politicians.
It’s been made clear team Boris see themselves as superior to
Johnny Foreigner and they are happy to sign and then break agreements
put the Good Friday agreement in peril.
Freddie Mercury couldn’t have gathered 2 points to rub together when representing GB.
What a farce Great Britain!
How on earth did they ever get away with giving themselves the title great?
Can you imagine reaction if Germany announced that as having the strongest economy in
EU and having welcomed over 1,000,000 refugees, they now wish to be known Great Germany?
Shocked
3 years ago
Effigy
You betray yourself. Accusing people of seeing others as Johnny Foreigner when you clearly have utter contempt for other people based on where they come from.
The island is called Great Britain, it relates to geography.
Shocked
3 years ago
As for josh Taylor, I follow boxing and the fact is he isn’t major box office as he’s only a light welterweight. If he keeps going the way he is he will get the headlines eventually, he needs to go after super fights now,
Bloody hell! Someone other than me as called you out! About time.
Davie Oga
3 years ago
Shocked says:
23 May, 2021 at 7:38 am
“Misses the point that the biggest threat to Scottish farming are Irish imports. We import more beef from Ireland than the entire Scottish beef production. A lot of beef that comes from Ireland isn’t even Irish, it’s polish or Romanian raised in substandard conditions. Queen Nicola would quite happily destroy the country to feed her vanity.”
Source please. I live in Ireland and the only time I’ve seen anything other than Irish beef is in specialty products, i.e at a Polish shop or section in a supermarket. Nobody where I live would eat beef that wasn’t Irish. That’s generally the case wherever I’ve been. They don’t eat foreign meat generally. Spain, Italy France etc. For good reason too.
I wonder why I keep coming back here? Addiction, a last flickering light of hope? I stopped identifying as Scottish at the election. Why not?. My daughter was born in Ireland and I have the granny for the passport. Its not really working out like I expected because everyone in the town I live in knows me as Scottish Davie.
It’s too hard to explain to normal people in normal countries that I’m not considered Scottish by the Junta in Edinburgh and the majority of the half-witted, fucking morons who inhabit the land that begat me. Not Scottish like someone who enters the country illegal, exhausts due process and refuses to leave anyway. Class.
Anyway. Best of luck to all continuing the struggle.
Got to go.I’ve had a long week exercising my white privilege. It’s been a pleasure to earn money to support my extended family in Nigeria. I’ve got a flight home today. Need to get something special special for my two year old, mix race daughter and my pain in the ass (not literally, lol) flamboyantly gay neighbour
wants me to bring a him a specialty liqueur which struggling find. Pain in the ass, but he’s the first real friend I made when I moved to Ireland 4 1/ years.
Tricky Nicky –
You are a piece of human excrement and history will record you as such. Of that, you can be sure.
Shocked
3 years ago
@davie olga
So you live in Ireland and ignore the corruption in the Irish beef trade invoking crooks like Larry Goodman and the Irish farmers protests at the processing plants.
If you don’t notice that going on there is no point in me trying to educate you. Open your eyes.
Dan
3 years ago
@ sensibledave
Talking of calling folk out, you never responded to this post upthread.
Ah, I think you missed the irony Dan. I thought you loved the EU and all of the federal Europe, no borders, single state stuff. My bad.
Stuart MacKay
3 years ago
Effigy
Shocked is right, but he’s the only one who takes that position. Everybody else ignores the “greater” part of Great Britain” and instead “Rule Brittainia” plays in their heads.
That’s also sort of the problem with the House Jocks. They want to be part of something that’s greater than Scotland because they can’t see that the country is greater than the image that gets served up by the media all day, every day.
Independence people are not interested in glory or empire. They’d be happy with something nice, quiet and unassuming to call their own, like a copy of Estonia, on this side of the North Sea.
In a way that’s problematic too as it will never be enough for the House Jocks. They want to be in the premier league and being in the first division isn’t good enough. Centuries of brain-washing by the British Empire has forever warped their expectations.
They’re never going to listen to Nicola’s pleas to say Yes. She represents everything they resent about a future in the first or even second division.
This is just a fanciful explanation and simply a thought exercise. It shows that “Yes” will never be an option for some. Think football and you can see what I mean.
As I read all the bleating, whinging, grievance and all the thinly veiled anti-English stuff here, I have to remind myself that, when actually asked, the “people of Scotland” voted to stay in the U.K. No one else, just the “people of Scotland”.
At the same time, when I look at any polls that have taken place, I note, generally speaking, “the people of England” do not oppose Scotland leaving the U.K. (with an increasing proportion actually wanting it).
When a thread like this one starts, and the immediate reaction here is that a free trade deal, with a country like Australia, is a bad thing. …. I wonder just who folk on here actually want to trade with.
As I mentioned above, the general agreement above is that the Scottish Government and all its senior ministers are corrupt. The Scottish legal and judiciary is corrupt. The Scottish police are corrupt ie the country is a basket case (not my view).
Why would a free democratic country like Australia want a trade deal with such a country? Maybe it doesn’t? Maybe it wants a trade deal with England ad it has to deal with Scotland as a consequence?
Again, asking for a friend.
Robert Hughes
3 years ago
Your football metaphor works really well Stuart , to continue it can we agree the ” lad ” Salmond played a blinder though greatly hampered by really awful refereeing and dirty tackles by the opposing team .
To think they once played for the same side too
Dan
3 years ago
@ sensibledave
Well you thought wrong then. I recognise there are pluses and minus of being an EU member State.
But what I think isn’t the point. To suit your agenda you twisted the words of The President of the National Farmers Union for Scotland raising concerns for the industry he represents, with the way the UK as a whole, and Scotland as an entity with differing farming practices (status recognised by LFA subsidies), have been taken out of the EU single market without due consideration for all that entails for both the short and long term.
It makes sense to trade locally when required to reduce food transportation miles, and having regulatory alignment with EU standards would maintain our produce’s tradability with our nearest global market, which would also ensure it adhered to decent quality and welfare / production standards.
Shocked
3 years ago
Stuart Mackay
Being like Estonia, a former soviet republic growing its way out of decades of communist oppression and economic decay, is a major step backwards. Why do you have no ambition for Scotland? Do you not think we can be successful? Tho of course Estonia is quite like Scotland st the moment as they admired in corruption, mind you their kick their corrupt politicians out and jail them, we seem to re elect them and then kneel in front of them because they once waved a flag.
But then I noticed you are a fan of Queen Nicola and the New SNP, their only ambition for Scotland is for it to be an open prison where the New SNP leadership cabal yield ultimate power and we are mere sheep who’s only function is to fund their lifestyles.
Shocked
3 years ago
Dan
For Scottish beef farmers the EU is an irrelevance as they sell 70% of their product to England, hence the Union jacks on some packaging to keep packaging costs down, and around 6% to the EU.
The EU is however a major threat as the UK imports huge amounts of Irish beef that is cut price because if is heavily subsidised and many cases it isn’t even Irish at all.
The myth that the EU is a great thing for Scottish farming is just that, a myth,
Davie Oga
3 years ago
Shocked says:
23 May, 2021 at 8:45 am
@davie olga
“So you live in Ireland and ignore the corruption in the Irish beef trade invoking crooks like Larry Goodman and the Irish farmers protests at the processing plants”
I know about the protests. I live in a county dependent on agriculture. The protests were centred price for farmers. Goodman is a charlatan of the highest order. No one here would eat his foreign meat. All exported.
…. your “appeal to authority” by suggesting I twisted the words of NFU man is just silly. I don’t know he is and I don’t know what he said.
Moving on, you accept that there were/are pluses and minuses for a country being in the EU. I’ve never heard a Remainer provide any balance before. Could you therefore tell me a few of the minuses that you perceive please.
Stuart MacKay
3 years ago
Republicofscotland
I agree about AUOB about being clap-happy but that’s the reason it’s successful. It’s more along the lines of a St. Patrick’s Day parade or Gay Pride march. If it becomes more confrontational then that’s the day there’s more visible police presence, maybe with a couple of units of riot police sitting not so discretely on a side road and a few more dogs than usual and that’s the day that a lot of people decide that in future a march might be the start of trouble and decide not to go again.
You could still make it political and still keep it fun – a parade of carrots, or a cohort of women dressed as Suffragettes. Would be interesting to see how far you could push it before attracting criticism from Kirsty Bormann, Rhiannon Speer or the führer herself, but again you’d run the risk of making it not clap-happy and so undermine it.
More of the Imperial Masters guy with the megaphone and carrots dangling from lamp posts might be a better way of slowly turning up the heat.
Dan
3 years ago
@ Shocked at 9:31 am
You may have missed the point I made by saying “It makes sense to trade locally when required to reduce food transportation miles.“.
That relates to us consuming far more of our own home grown produce (I’ll add the seasonal aspect too) before we even consider importing similar stuff from further afield and different global trading blocs.
I was on a motorbike ride a couple of years back and in the middle of summer in Blairgowrie, a town surrounded by berry fields, the Coop was selling strawberries from fucking Morocco.
Lord advocate to stand down
Call for dual role to be split next time
Meg merrilees
3 years ago
Bjsalba
Now that would be a suitable job for Joanna Cherry – if will never happen of course!!!
Shocked
3 years ago
Davie olga
The foreign beef is processed in Ireland instead of Irish beef meaning the Irish farmers get ripped off and the foreign beef is labelled Irish and sent to the UK.. We need to shut the border to this corruption.
If it’s tough in Ireland too bad, they brought it on themselves,
Shocked
3 years ago
Maybe I did Dan, we should be encouraging home production and creating jobs instead of importing from abroad.
Stuart MacKay
3 years ago
Shocked
You really are a lazy dimwit. Was you’re reply to what I said the next block of text to post from your checklist.
Perhaps you have a troll tele-prompter because you can’t be trusted to write a sentence all by yourself without getting it wrong.
Shocked
3 years ago
But as I said Dan, staying in alignment with the rest of the UK is far more important than staying in alignment with the EU for Scottish farmers.
Shocked
3 years ago
Stuart Mackay
Says the sturgeonite who’s only ambition for Scotland is to take us back 35 years. When party comes first and country second you are what happens, ambition free drones who can’t think for themselves.
Nice wee piece of BBC bias there on Marr, as the bold Andrew delivers Priti Patel a nice slow ball with which to put Sturgeon and Scotland back in their box.
The deportations will continue, because London is in-charge. Put that in your pipe and smoke it Sturgeon, was Patel’s message.
Dan
3 years ago
@ Sensibledave at 9:37 am
You responded to me after I’d linked to Martin Kennedy’s tweet. Check his bio.
I’ll link to his tweet again but this time through this Jim Fairlie tweet.
You may not know who they are but some of us do and know they have considerable experience and knowledge in aspects relating to Scottish farming.
Can you acknowledge that they might just have more relevant insight into the Scottish farming industry than yourself.
Re. pluses and minuses. Well I’ve already highlighted the needless transportation of produce over great distances when it could be sourced locally. I am also aware that the complete freedom of movement had aspects that are open to abuse when folk can just rock up and start getting state aid without having previously contributed.
Dan
3 years ago
Shocked says: at 9:49 am
“But as I said Dan, staying in alignment with the rest of the UK is far more important than staying in alignment with the EU for Scottish farmers.”
Even if it means dropping our standards?
Breeks
3 years ago
Stuart MacKay says:
23 May, 2021 at 8:59 am
That’s also sort of the problem with the House Jocks. They want to be part of something that’s greater than Scotland because they can’t see that the country is greater than the image that gets served up by the media all day, every day.
Exactly this.
I remember a YouTube clip of some Spanish people held up in traffic because the Catalan farmers were protesting in their tractors, and the gist of the sneering derision was that the tractors were the Catalan’s military army.
Ask most Unionists and even undecided, and they just cannot visualise Scotland having a Scottish Navy well capable of defending Scottish Waters, a Scottish Air Force being able to afford cutting edge aircraft and maintaining a potent defence of the realm.
You say Scottish Navy, they see Scottish motor boat bought second hand.
You say Scottish Army, they see TA duffers running into battle without frontline tech.
You say Scottish Government, they see a Micky Mouse puppet show. (Ok they might be right on that one).
You say Scottish infrastructure, they see a worky pouring tar into a pothole. Their heads would explode at the thought Scotland might copy the Faroes with undersea tunnels.
They’re cynical if you cite Scotland’s historic Constitution because it’s centuries old, yet they pull out and misrepresent the Darien Scheme like a gun… (missing out the East India Company’s roll in it’s collapse of course).
You say Scottish Broadcasting, they see 1970’s Black and White TV with 2 channels.
You say Scottish Energy, they wonder which BritNat Old Boy was parachuted in to run it.
You say Scottish University, they think of a college.
You say Scottish Exports, they see subsidised trade which needs English ports and airports.
The list goes on and on, but the sense of inadequacy is pretty constant.
Can you imagine the massive resource Scotland would have if all these sad punctures were plugged, and everybody started to believe in their Nation and pull their weight? Imagine if all those BritNat Unionists who currently think Scotland’s roll in the Union is to sacrifice itself for the greater UK, put the same energy they use to malign Scotland into making the place thrive.
I was in China in 2007, the year before the Beijing Olympics, and you saw a backward, essentially a peasant nation suddenly opening up their country, building cutting edge motorways and reinventing their “normal”. And by the way, for all that was said in the West, I didn’t meet a single Chinese person who was cynical about their nation. They love China as the best nation in the world, and that’s how I want to feel about Scotland.
You had to watch. You could be driving along a road which would suddenly disappear because the roundabout it led to hadn’t been built yet. On another occasion, the 5 lane motorway was still unfinished, so all the traffic (what traffic?), had to jump into the wilderness and follow the tracks of the tipper trucks which were still building the motorway. (Yes, I know, horse track to 5 lane motorway, but that’s another story).
It’s strange to describe, but there were ‘villages’ which hadn’t been built. They people were there, but the buildings weren’t. There were ‘organic’ small communities of people supporting the project workers with hot food, water, and essentials, and dirty, and I mean coal miner dirty, mechanics keeping all the vehicles running. It put me in mind of the frontier towns which sprung up to serve the colonial charge to exploit “the colonies”.
At one point we needed a welder to fix one of our vehicles, and you were steered in the direction of a welder by people who knew where one was, and I remember thinking that’s exactly how and why we have occupational names like Baker, Butcher, Fletcher etc in our society…. It was for people trying to find them for what they did, not who they were.
China was brilliant, but a bit nuts to be honest, and a one-off situation, but the point is, if your people are enthusiastic, the energy and commitment, the innovation and improvisation it inspires is truly remarkable, and I firmly believe it’s been such a very looooong time since Scotland was truly enthusiastic about anything. Scotland, our nation, is dormant in ways it just doesn’t even realise.
Even in the most ardent Scottish Unionist, there is no uplifting enthusiasm for the Union, just a misguided Calvinist notion of worthy and dutiful self sacrifice. You ask them to articulate a positive, progressive case for the Union, and they just can’t do it. They are suddenly very ordinary salesmen, trying to sell you something colourless which you neither need nor want.
Scotland deserves so much better than this. Scotland is so much more capable of so much more. The sad thing is, the current SNP government is now as much of a stifling blanket over Scotland’s resurrection as the Union ever was. It is thoroughly depressing.
Shocked
3 years ago
@dan
UK standards are higher than EU standards for a whole range of agri products. Many practices carried out on the continent are illegal in the UK.
Ottomanboi
3 years ago
In case you missed it.
The loyal and royal Kirk of Union has a new boss. link to bbc.co.uk
Cosy.
Greetings folks! Anyone else on here used Wickr? Given recent events Stickergate in Kirkcaldy and threats to #WomenWontWheesht heretics like @millar_marion in , it occurred to me a secure method of communication might be useful?
I saw some discussion online yesterday on timelines discussing the above, particularly from someone advocating it as a safety net from being “cancelled”?
akenaton
3 years ago
Good post Breeks a long time since I read anything inspirational about Scottish Independence.
You are spot on, we need dedication, sacrifice and belief in ourselves to make it work, but the malaise is a lot deeper than you attempt to illustrate. The populace have lost the plot, if they ever had it to begin with, we are a product of consumerism and have become increasingly easy to manipulate by those in power.
Also unlike the Chinese people whom you write of so eloquently, WE all have something to lose, perhaps things of little value, baubles, ideologies even, but I think we are too soft and malleable to rise to the challenge to which you allude?
Ruby
3 years ago
Socrates MacSporran says:
The deportations will continue, because London is in-charge. Put that in your pipe and smoke it Sturgeon, was Patel’s message. Reply
Lets say that wasn’t the case and she/her was in charge of immigration what would she do?
The message seems to be that she wouldn’t have any immigration policy and anyone who landed in Scotland would be able to stay.
Does this help or hinder the independence vote?
Difficult to know what people in Scotland feel about free movement of people from anywhere in the world being that immigration is a taboo subject and has been since Labour’s PC Brigade branded anyone expressing ‘unacceptable’ views on immigration as racists.
Robert Hughes
3 years ago
Breeks @ 10.35 .
* Hat tip * compadre .
Republicofscotland
3 years ago
Well done Josh Taylor on becoming Scotland’s first undisputed world boxing champion winning four world championship belts. Neither Sky Sports or BT Sports covered your history making fight, now that you’ve won your suddenly a British champion.
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chas
3 years ago
50% of Scots are basically gullible and thick. 40% simply don’t care about what is happening around them. 10% are extremely concerned about where the country is heading and who is supposedly leading them there.
The most worrying aspect about it all is that the latter percentage is decreasing by the day.
The rich get richer and the poor get poorer-it is the way of the world and nothing will change this.
J.o.e
3 years ago
@Ruby
The obvious answer is that people from other parts of the world, especially if they have arrived and stayed by unconventional means, if given a place in the democratic process will nearly always vote for the least nationalist parties.
As you probably know that’s why its happening.
The difficult part is telling the hysterical bleeding hearts or the middle class university educated White Knights for the Oppressed. They are too busy bathing in their own moral righteousness to see this for what it is.
The Scots, as well as many others including the English, are being disenfranchised from their homelands by international hyper wealthy criminals working through NGO’s, charities and utterly immoral politicians.
But like the trans rights issue there’s no telling them til its too late. They are too good and righteous and certainly won’t want to reinforce any of those evil right wing talking points.
They’d rather have their heads up their arse while their own people (always the poorer ones) continue to drown in one globalist funded and guided crises after another.
This is why the leadership of the current Scottish Independence movement has failed and will continue to fail. They have become largely separated from ordinary working people and more represent the ideology and concerns of the more sheltered middle class.
Which is why talking about ANY issue that affects working Scots is taboo including immigration and the LGBT shite that virtually no working Scot gives a single fuck about.
If anyone who has a couple of properties or maybe an couple of extra rooms takes offense at this then why don’t you do your bit and put up some needy 3rd world family? No – its much better if they are housed in places that our own people need and get benefits that our own people can’t get, while helped into jobs our own people can’t find while you talk with your clueless chums about the need for equality and harmony.
Republicofscotland
3 years ago
“According to the Times, James Wolffe QC and the solicitor general, Alison Di Rolla QC, are to leave office in a matter of days.
Wolffe will surely know where the bodies are buried, it will be interesting to see if he’s bumped up to a High court judge, or if he’ll do a Dominic Cummings and threaten to spill the beans.
Robert Hughes
3 years ago
J.o.e @ 11.29 .
Agreed . I made a comment to that effect a while back here .
The policy of placing large numbers of – by most standards , poor immigrants amongst native equivalents often struggling to keep their heads above economic waters is fraught with dangers and rarely manifests in harmonious co-existence : as you infer …..is it meant to , or , rather , the opposite ?
And , yes , good suggestion ie will those who advocate these policies step-up and make any kind of sacrifice to honour their – alleged – commitment ? Na , thought not .
Anyone with basic common decency feels sympathy for people driven from their homes and countries either by sheer economic necessity or the ravages of war , and refuge should be offered to genuine cases : unrestricted access for all is a disaster in the making and , again as you say , will fall on the heads of those already in need of support and most vulnerable to exploitation .
Captain Yossarian
3 years ago
@Republicofscotland – there’s not many times I agree with you but, on this occassion, I’m with you.
It makes me wonder whether this has been a move made by the legal profession themselves; to distance themselves from what they see as a needlessly incestuous entanglement.
In this inceasingly crappy wee country, I expect him to retire early with an OBE.
Willie
3 years ago
The promotion of Wolfe that of a High Court judge will display without any doubt how rotten and corrupt the justice system is in Scotland.
But Scotland has more than a rotten Judiciary. Institutional corruption and bias runs criminally through the police, senior civil servants and the government.
People really do need to take a shake to themselves and the corruption that surrounds them. Promoting the likes the Lord Advocate James Wolfe to a High Court judge or any similar position shows that after the huge concerns about the failed Salmond prosecutions.
And if they don’t promote him, then as someone previously said, he could do a Dominic Cummings and expose the First Minister.
Mind you, there are anecdotal reports of personal scandal surrounding Wolfe and aside of his partisan head of the COPFS. Maybe we shall find out.
J.o.e
3 years ago
@Robert Hughes
One thing that makes me almost violent is watching some working person, or someone living on benefits, who has been let down by the education system and forgotten by their nation struggling to properly express their concerns and their troubles in the face of ‘educated’ liberal scum who freely utilise false, often media derived, talking points and shame tactics to shut them down.
The types of people who are most affected by the ‘liberal’ outlook are the ones least equipped to argue their corner and are treated like thick, unthinking bigots with no basis for their concerns
It fucking enrages me.
J.o.e
3 years ago
Additionally to what I just wrote – the worst part is those same characters will also pretend to be a champion of those same poorer people. It would make you puke.
robertknight
3 years ago
@Willie
I’ve long been of the opinion that Kompromat is in plentiful supply where the heads of certain institutions in Scotland are concerned, and those who wield real power, from outwith Scotland, know exactly whose strings to pull to achieve their desired results.
Robert Hughes
3 years ago
J.o.e @ 12.12 + 12.16 . 100% . That inarticulate rage and confusion at what’s being done around them , with zero consultation/consideration of THEIR needs is the perfect breeding-ground for fascist or crypto-fascist ideologies
James che is a fanny. Scottish speak for a troll. Awe that pish for not spelling right.
Breeks
3 years ago
akenaton says:
23 May, 2021 at 10:51 am
…, but I think we are too soft and malleable to rise to the challenge to which you allude.
I really don’t know. That’s not a simple question to answer.
That Chinese welder we found is forever etched in mind because he didn’t have any goggles or mask for doing his welding. He was just young, in his 20’s, but eyes must have been totally wrecked by the arc. I’ve never wished so hard to have had a pair of welding goggles in my pocket just to give the fella.
Are we ‘softer’ because we’re more dependent on Health and Safety Regs and safety equipment? In some ways maybe we are, but you’re no good to anybody as a blind welder.
I think there’s a notion we’re soft because there’s nothing to push us, no challenge to inspire us nor adversity to test us. Scotland is a nation with a great engine, but these days, it’s merely running on idle.
Al-Stuart
3 years ago
.
Breeks at 10.35 23/5/2021.
Thank you for that first rate essay.
Cheered me right up, and others too I’ll wager.
I paraphrase, but you mention Scotland having the positive vision it needs to become independent. Two words came to mind. The painter and author needed for that vision to be made real…
Alex Salmond
I know this to be the answer because the full MIGHT and focus of the British Empire were focused upon the destruction of this one human being.
Destroy the man’s reputation and you kill off his voice.
Indeed the corrupt ugly dark souled Linda Evans type may think they lost a battle by failing in their fake rape allegations to have an innocent man jailed for life. But as we see the triumphant Sturgeon The Betrayer sack David Wolffe and replace him with one of her Woke puppets (one that doesn’t drop the ball like calamity Wolffe), they haven’t quite extinguished the flame.
I don’t think Alex Salmond is that easily erased from history.
Yes they have tried at great cost to the taxpayer to destroy Alex Salmond’s reputation and God knows what cost to the man himself.
Breeks you are onto something. I have yet to hear Alex Salmond go negative. That chimes with everything you posted at 10.35 this morning.
Bonnie Dundee ain’t finished yet. I reckon when, eventually the nation looks up from it’s Covid woes and efforts to keep the job, the roof over their heads and the weans fed, I reckon we are in for one helluva repeat of exactly what happened in the days, weeks and months following IndyRef1 18-9-2014.
Back then when Scotland realised it had been done up like a kipper, masses, BiG masses of people joined the SNP.
There is nothing more thrawn than a pissed-off Scot who finds a liar has fucked him or her over.
So WHEN eventually Nicola The Betrayer is found out, there will be a backlash bigger than many a tsunami.
Breeks I KNOW this will happen. I KNOW Scotland will become a decent, Independent nation. I just hope the older ones of us here are still about to see it.
Thanks for the cheer-up Breeks. You are helping keep the Wings torch lit.
—————————
P.S. Thanks to whoever it was on this thread who termed the phrase: “Nicola The Betrayer”
Why?
Well, if you Google the phrase Nicola The Betrayer those amazing wee Google bots take you to a certain website with an article that shall end up with the highest ever viewing figures on that website. The reason is Nicola The Betrayer will become a thing: a phrase in BTL discourse, the words on articles, the paint on banners.
So in the near future when the penny eventually drops that Nicola squandered FIVE opportunities for IndyRef2 and has squandered the SIXTH mandate given to her earlier this month, the TIDE WILL TURN.
Nicola’s coat is already on a shoogly peg. It took the MIGHT of the State Broadcaster and State media to suborn the legitimate vote by enforcing a media blackout on the Alba Party.
With social media rising and state media delclining then that dam ain’t holding forever.
Aye, today’s been good. A stoater of a post from Breeks and a cracker of an internet signpost from whoever coined the phrase: Nicola The Betrayer.
Wings ain’t dead yet. Just sleeping whilst the skipper takes a very, very well earned break.
Derek
3 years ago
Breeks says:
23 May, 2021 at 10:35 am
You say Scottish Navy, they see Scottish motor boat bought second hand.
You say Scottish Army, they see TA duffers running into battle without frontline tech.
I did a fair bit of thinking about a defence force in 2014 and the run-up, and decided that that would suffice; why would we need an offensive force? While they were at it, they could provide helicopters and pilots for air/sea/mountain rescue and do a lot of the coastguard stuff, too.
They love China as the best nation in the world, and that’s how I want to feel about Scotland.
Agreed; it’s about contentment with your situation rather than being competitive about Best Nation, I think.
…and I firmly believe it’s been such a very looooong time since Scotland was truly enthusiastic about anything…
1978, I think…!
Republicofscotland
3 years ago
Captain Yossarian.
Wolffe’s wife is a High Court judge, and she herself is no stranger to controversy, as you’ll see here, as was his predecessor Frank Mullholland, who was also bumped up to a High Court judge.
Whoever is Wolffe’s successor, mustn’t be allowed to sit on Sturgeon the Betrayers cabinet, the judiciary and the COPFS should be separate from daily workings of the Scottish governments cabinet, if not, as has happened already lead to collusion.
James Che.
3 years ago
Breeks
I had took notice of this yesterday, and started researching it,
Some of those titled names have followed through from the treaty of the union signitures when you read whom has held what positions over the years.
It is the secrets of deeper control of Scotland running what seems to be hollyrude.
Even offered the keys.
We kid ourselves that hollyrude will ever separate from the narrative of Westminster. Into independence,
I am still of the opinion that we have a right to chose our government.
I am pretty sure it does not say, the sovereign people of Scotland only can pick one from the deck of cards that England government holds out in front of us.
That is restricted selection,
Not the choice to the right of self determination and never would provide independence to the Scottish people, it’s a stamp all over British flag cover up from hollyrude and the general Assembly.
Seeing it for what it is it makes you realise this is never going to happen through a devolved parliament,
We can pretend that we reconvened our original parliament,
But if it was true, why are England’s Titled running it. Assembly and parliament under the elite.
Sell us a Scottish country and we will sell you a Scottish Parliament that is fake.
Stuart MacKay
3 years ago
Andy Ellis,
I’m not sure if Wickr is still a viable option. The free tier is only available for up to 10 users, wickr.com/product-tiers/
I think they originally envisaged themselves as a mass communications platform but pivoted to secure enterprise/military communications.
There’s not much apparent activity on the pages that host their public repositories github.com/WickrInc but given the content on their web site I’d say that all the new stuff is behind built behind closed doors.
Here are the search results from a site where I have faith in the veracity of the comments, link to hn.algolia.com. Most of the submitted articles are from a while ago (5-7 years) and not much has happened since which supports the idea that if they are still viable then it’s big business and the military they are after.
Republicofscotland
3 years ago
This is an excellent article and it shows what a dark and dangerous road Scotland is taking under the tenure of Sturgeon the Betrayer.
@Republicofscotland – I’m shocked by that. Speechless that that could happen here. Not only the mallicious prosecution, but the fact that the case was being heard by the wife of one of those accused. When you don’t read stuff like this in the press, then you know the Scottish press has been got-at.
Hugh Jarse
3 years ago
Someone above…
The ‘Great’ prefix is merely a shortening of Greater (Britain), the name given by the Romans to the largest ‘British ‘ island. (Inc. Eire)
Captain Yossarian
3 years ago
@Republicofscotland – one last thing; I read that 70% of Scottish lawyers want the Lord Advocate removed from Government. He is seen even by them as a fixer. John Swinney was able to redact documents with impunity when the Lord Advocate was around. Best remove him for the good of the public.
Republicofscotland
3 years ago
So the UK received no points in the Eurovision Song Contest, I suppose after the debacle that was Brexit the UK is somewhat despised within the EU.
Even more astonishing is the inclusion of the murderous occupying, oppressive, apartheid, military regime known as Israel in the tournament, its not European let alone a legitimate country.
wee monkey
3 years ago
Republicofscotland says:
23 May, 2021 at 1:57 pm
Quote:- “Even more astonishing is the inclusion of the murderous occupying, oppressive, apartheid, military regime known as Israel in the tournament, its not European let alone a legitimate country.”
Now then, take a couple of steps back and reconsider your love of the EU…
Republicofscotland
3 years ago
” one last thing; I read that 70% of Scottish lawyers want the Lord Advocate removed from Government.”
Captain Yossarian.
This is from my 1.32pm link.
“In 2005 the UK parliament passed the Constitutional Reform Act which ensures separation of powers in the UK. But Scotland was not included and Scotland still lacks the separation as the head of the judiciary – the Lord Advocate – sits in cabinet and is part of the executive. This gives rise to the possibility of the executive using the law to for its’ own political benefit, such as hiding executive wrong doing or to the possibility of the executive carrying out political prosecutions.”
PhilM
3 years ago
Reading Breeks post made me think about something I was going to post a while back.
So I’m a bit of a fan of Scandinoir for reasons not always connected to plotlines and dramatic tension. I find Scandinavians somewhat similar to us as people but then having met Danes, Norwegians, Swedes and Finns in my travels, it’s been interesting to see many of them make the comparison too. Watching the Icelandic thriller Trapped recently, I was amazed to discover one of the villages where it’s set is on the North coast of Iceland. This somewhat inhospitable setting, certainly as we would understand it, currently has a population of 1,200 people and in the 1950s had 3000 inhabitants. Tromsø in northern Norway has 65,000 inhabitants and rather than losing population is a fast-growing town. If you look at arctic Russia, you have even larger populations in Murmansk and Norilsk, and South of the arctic circle but cold AF we find Yakutsk (built on permafrost). These three ‘baltic’ cities have hundreds of thousands of inhabitants.
The point is northerly compass points do not have to signify both desolation and lack of population. People talk about Scotland’s ‘central belt’ as if it’s a fact of our natural history…as if Scots were naturally drawn to two large cities barely 50 miles apart like nesting birds.
If you look at puir auld Scotland’s northern counties you see barely 100,000 people in the whole of Caithness, Sutherland, and Ross and Cromarty. Surely in an independent Scotland, this would change dramatically within twenty or thirty years. The energy waiting to burst out come independence would be unstoppable.
This fucking awful union has created our desolation and sells it back to us on the BBC as wilderness, as a getting away from it all spiritual adventure, as natural obstacle courses (bag that Munro now!), as places where fucking bears, wolves, lynxes (and probably the fucking Dodo next) need re-introduction.
The whole of Scotland should flourish after independence and it doesn’t need billionaires foisting casinos on small northern communities like we’re the next fucking Macau!
I feel better after that…
Captain Yossarian
3 years ago
Republicofscotland – and David Davis said exactly that when stood-up in the HoC. I wonder though…our legal profession was always one of the best in the world and students have always come here to study law. There are many lawyers around who want these roles separated, as they already do in the rest of the UK.
wee monkey
3 years ago
Shocked says:
23 May, 2021 at 7:38 am
Quite:-
“Misses the point that the biggest threat to Scottish farming are Irish imports.
We import more beef from Ireland than the entire Scottish beef production.
A lot of beef that comes from Ireland isn’t even Irish, it’s polish or Romanian raised in substandard conditions.
Queen Nicola would quite happily destroy the country to feed her vanity.”
See, that’s the problem about FACTS on here.
They have fit the narrative.
Take AS.
An innocent man who has been severely wronged by the SNP establishment. He is not alone.
The fact that he is also TOXIC to the majority of the Scottish people was a FACT that was ignored by many on here.
And where did it get us?
Absolutely Nowhere.
wee monkey
3 years ago
PhilM says:
23 May, 2021 at 2:11 pm
Quote:-“Reading Breeks post made me think about something I was going to post a while back.
So I’m a bit of a fan of Scandinoir for reasons not always connected to plotlines and dramatic tension. I find Scandinavians somewhat similar to us as people but then having met Danes, Norwegians, Swedes and Finns in my travels, it’s been interesting to see many of them make the comparison too. Watching the Icelandic thriller Trapped recently, I was amazed to discover one of the villages where it’s set is on the North coast of Iceland. This somewhat inhospitable setting, certainly as we would understand it, currently has a population of 1,200 people and in the 1950s had 3000 inhabitants. Tromsø in northern Norway has 65,000 inhabitants and rather than losing population is a fast-growing town. If you look at arctic Russia, you have even larger populations in Murmansk and Norilsk, and South of the arctic circle but cold AF we find Yakutsk (built on permafrost). These three ‘baltic’ cities have hundreds of thousands of inhabitants.
The point is northerly compass points do not have to signify both desolation and lack of population. People talk about Scotland’s ‘central belt’ as if it’s a fact of our natural history…as if Scots were naturally drawn to two large cities barely 50 miles apart like nesting birds.
If you look at puir auld Scotland’s northern counties you see barely 100,000 people in the whole of Caithness, Sutherland, and Ross and Cromarty. Surely in an independent Scotland, this would change dramatically within twenty or thirty years. The energy waiting to burst out come independence would be unstoppable.
This fucking awful union has created our desolation and sells it back to us on the BBC as wilderness, as a getting away from it all spiritual adventure, as natural obstacle courses (bag that Munro now!), as places where fucking bears, wolves, lynxes (and probably the fucking Dodo next) need re-introduction.
The whole of Scotland should flourish after independence and it doesn’t need billionaires foisting casinos on small northern communities like we’re the next fucking Macau!
I feel better after that…”
What are the suicide rates in these Northern Nirvanas BTW?
See, some of us have actually BEEN to these places and the reality is somewhat different to your rose tinted outlook.
There is a reason the Norwegians burn lights “everywhere” 24/7 during the long black winters…
James Che.
3 years ago
Hugh jarse.
Propaganda was used in roman times just as it is today,
The Romans’ did not include Scotland, they built not one, but two great big walls separating “The Britain” you speak about.
Tacitus claimed lots of things as a reporter, but wether any of them were true has yet to be proved with regards to most of Scotland,
The spin he put on Calgacus speech is a good example. Supposedly he was sitting beside him in (the enemy’s ) camp and heard every word he said. As the Scottish clans and tribes did not have microphones in those days,
In reality if he was that close he would have been a hostage or prisoner to the calidonians in no time.
And the great battle of Mons Graupius that was supposed to have subdued all of Scotland remains as elusive as stardust.
Tacitus was biased to an extreme as he was the son in law of Agricola, the man whom was supposed to have conquer Britain as a whole country,
But none of the Romans even drew a decent map of how the land of Scotland was attached to England,
They had flurries of attacks ,yes. They had some small forts that were not permanent in Scotland, yes,
But no evidence of permanence or ever ruling Scotland as part of Britain like they did England,
I love history, and actually do metal detecting, I have found evidence from Pictish to present day finds in coins and tools, that sit in the museum but in my area of Scotland, NOT one roman coin or tool, brooch or bead,
Further down Scotland and closer you get to the walls there is evidence of temporary forts and scurries into Scotland but not here. Every bit of history points to them never subduing the all the Scots. Your Britain was halved by the Romans themselves. Scotland remained separate in their minds.
Breeks
3 years ago
wee monkey says:
23 May, 2021 at 2:18 pm
The fact that he is also TOXIC to the majority of the Scottish people was a FACT that was ignored by many on here…
Where lies the bigger danger to us Wee monkey? Our enemies who gratuitously and falsely smear and malign Alex Salmond to discredit him, or those of us who accept that orchestrated conspiracy as fact, and concede defeat to the enemy’s disinformation despite all the time knowing it’s untrue?
I’ll stand by Alex Salmond the way Alex Salmond has always stood by Scotland, come rain, hail or shine.
If you’re worried about toxicity, my advice would be to stop swallowing it.
Effigy
3 years ago
Shocked.
Yes I do say without doubt that many people in England see themselves superior to
other nations.
One of those nations is the one I belong to, Scotland.
The English have been brought up with stories of defeating the French, the Germans and
countries with lesser armies right across the globe.
Try explaining to most Englishmen that Britain was being well beaten by Germany and Japan in the 1940’s. If Russia hadn’t stated in the war even with 26 million dead the German Western Front
soldiers would have been marching through London.
If America had stayed out or was unwilling for Britain to take on massive debts for their resources
the war would have ended years later.
Sure Brits were brave and enduring and credit for that but without other nations they were beaten.
The old soldiers who say they won find themselves with pensions a fraction of those in Germany.
They see free travel and TV licences being removed from them.
The disabled from active service see themselves in homes ran by charities like Erskine.
It was the English Tory attitude to other nations that deliver Nil Point.
Incidentally, over my years my family has had well loved African American, Indian and Arab members as well as Irish and Swiss/German.
Never have stood by and accepted racism or bigotry.
I would never accept that I’m not equal with anyone
I will attack a near nation who use stop and search for Blacks in the main
who have a National Front Party a Brexit Party a heralded Prime Minister who
insults by calling out ethnic minorities as having watermelon smiles or who
look like letterboxes and Scots as a verminous race.
Breeks
3 years ago
Shocked says:
23 May, 2021 at 10:39 am
@dan
UK standards are higher than EU standards for a whole range of agri products. Many practices carried out on the continent are illegal in the UK.
Name them.
An are you talking about UK standards now, or after deregulation?
J.o.e
3 years ago
Politicians are our tools. Some of them may even pass as some sort of leader for a time.
Im not a fan of cross dressers but if one was making all the points i wanted made and was building a reputation for ability and integrity id support them politically.
Also if a beautiful Scottish woman who has all the the visual and personality characteristics that could be tied to best of the Scottish people was in the competition but basically didn’t offer much past the status quo id not consider her.
The personal bullshit people bring to their political decisions is childish beyond belief and it makes them very open to manipulation.
Cast an eye to the politics in the US right now and you see a bunch of eye candy women saying exactly the kind of things the dumb majority of the MAGA crowd want to hear. All of them pro Israel by sheer cohencidence, as is the heritage of 80% of Bidens top picks. Its so obvious its almost comedy.
Get a middle aged bloke asking the right questions and pointing out unpleasant facts however and even if anything he says does get through the MSM net he simply won’t appeal to the base animal level thinking of the mob.
America always does scrape the bottom of the barrel for class but even here politics is not much more than a fucking punch and judy show with discourse kept within the limits that an uninformed, uninspired and intellectually lazy public can handle.
Right now places like WOS and anywhere else that expands minds and challenges official narratives (UK Column also) is more important than the vast, vast majority of politicians.
Stoker
3 years ago
Republicofscotland says on 23 May, 2021 at 11:39 am
““According to the Times, James Wolffe QC and the solicitor general, Alison Di Rolla QC, are to leave office in a matter of days.
Wolffe will surely know where the bodies are buried, it will be interesting to see if he’s bumped up to a High court judge, or if he’ll do a Dominic Cummings and threaten to spill the beans.”
I think it’s probably more a case of I’m a Legal-Eagle Get Me Out of Here. No longer wishing to be associated with the rancid corruption that is Sturgeons Nasty Party.
Dorothy Devine
3 years ago
Breeks , I’ll stand with both you and Alex Salmond.
J.O.E . you are dead right politicians are indeed tools.
Stoker
3 years ago
Stuart MacKay says on 23 May, 2021 at 9:41 am: Republicofscotland
“I agree about AUOB about being clap-happy but that’s the reason it’s successful. It’s more along the lines of a St. Patrick’s Day parade or Gay Pride march. If it becomes more confrontational then that’s the day…..a lot of people decide that in future a march might be the start of trouble and decide not to go again.”
“You could still make it political and still keep it fun – a parade of carrots, or a cohort of women dressed as Suffragettes.”
LOVE IT! How about combining both suggestions. An AUOB parade led by a couple of rows of real women dressed as Suffragettes carrying bamboo fishing canes dangling carrots ahead of them? Carrying them in much the same way parade flag-carriers hold their flagpoles.
That would make a very strong & funny point. Not everyone would get it but that’s a good thing, it will force some to ask “what’s that all about?” Giving others ample opportunity to explain exactly what Sturgeon & Co are doing, ie: driving their own hidden agendas at the expense of independence.
That last point is of extreme importance because i’m becoming even more concerned with each passing day that all this nonsense is going to put the frighteners up the horses regarding indy. Already see folk saying if this is what an indy Scotland is going to be like then no thanks. Sturgeon & Co must be held responsible.
I get where you’re coming from, but I *think* Wickr seems to get pretty good reviews in terms of security and performance in recent reviews I’ve read. I’m not sure it’s that much of an issue that it’s less popular or well known as a platform than (say) Signal or Telegram if it’s being used as a “default” alternative for a defined group of people?
Beautiful oscarboy.
Obviously you were not born any where near Argyll or the time era I was, or you would have a good comprehension of reality and facts,
Maybe you’re not country born, or maybe your not a highlander, or maybe you have an English propaganda vision of remote parts of Scotland, or maybe you’re not even Scottish,
Either way you obviously have no idea about all of Scotland.
I have asked this a few times.
I wil ask you it, if you’re aware of the different old languages of true Scots not being just Gaelic What does the old Scottish word “Tint” mean ?
I do not think you are even in Scotland, you seem to have very little perception of the old ways of life that don’t come via MSM.
Captain Yossarian
3 years ago
Stoker says: “I think it’s probably more a case of I’m a Legal-Eagle Get Me Out of Here. No longer wishing to be associated with the rancid corruption that is Sturgeons Nasty Party.”
Couldn’t agree more. All lawyers should just get back to what they are good at, which is public protection. Leave all the amateur stuff behind.
“I think it’s probably more a case of I’m a Legal-Eagle Get Me Out of Here. No longer wishing to be associated with the rancid corruption that is Sturgeons Nasty Party.”
Stoker @3.3pm.
Its a bit late for that I think, Wolffe has already damaged his credibility within the legal circles, with regards to the Sturgeon debacle, and his legal council on producing evidence required by the committee.
Don’t forget that boomerangs, didgeridoos and
hats with corks dangling from the rim should all
arrive in the U.K. tariff free after a 12,000 journey!
We have our own Barrier of Grief where the Moral is dying.
I bought a Brexit Calculator- It just doesn’t add up
but it takes away and divided like nothing else.
G’Day Chris!
Great British red, white and blue railway sleepers. Lovely. Pity about all the sleepers and sleepwalkers within NewSNP.
link to archive.is
Don’t say you weren’t told.
It’s not the chlorine in your chicken that’s the problem, it’s the poor animal husbandry which breeds the stuff the chlorine is meant to kill so your food is “safe” to eat that’s the problem.
Remember when the UK ceased to regard animals as sentient beings?
If only there was some way Scotland could stop this madness, maintain compliance with European standards, (which aren’t perfect but better than this), and reward Scottish farmers for doing the right and decent thing by their livestock these past few decades.
Seems we’re all going to be eating shite now, all because Queen Sturgeon doesn’t want a supermajority leading to Scottish Independence. Vote SNP1 & 2 for bigger manboobs, smaller sperm count, and untold misery and suffering for countless numbers of sentient animals.
Fuck you Sturgeon.
I’m sure RIP Britain, the idea is to destroy Scotland economy before we become Independent. We now have another Cabinet Secretary for the Constitution things are just moving along as they did in 2016.
Fantastic as always Chris,
Chin up chaps it’s all very British.Will the supermarket products be plastered with Australian and New Zealand flags now?Anything but a Saltire eh Blackford you utter buffoon.
Arriving soon at a butcher’s counter in the Jute City… Crocodile Dundee
Haha!
The U.K. is negotiating a trade deal with the good folk of Australia … and all the bitter and twisted folk on here can do is find grievance. Which came as a complete surprise … to no one.
Keep going. These tactics have worked brilliantly for you.?
And of course, if the ‘meat’ is then re-packaged in these Great British isles it is classed as Great British ‘meat’.
Perfidious Albion lives.
LOL! Thanks, Chris! Sad beyond belief that we will be losing the greatest political monitoring site with your weekly contributions. Saturday’s will truly not be the same. For many of us it is your ‘Toons’ that kickstart our weekends.
__________
On a similar note and another appeal to ‘His Nibs’ to reconsider:
“We had a deeply dispiriting day yesterday. Today, David Maddox and the Scotsman reminded us of why we started Wings Over Scotland in the first place and why its work is vital, and in doing so renewed our vigour and sense of purpose.” link to wingsoverscotland.com
My inner pedant forces me to suggest – most of the sheep in Australia are the merino breed, bred for wool rather than meat.
Any lamb or mutton coming in will more likely be from New Zealand, where the natives’ proclavity for “sheep worrying” has apparently meant a more-edible animal being bred.
«FIRST Minister Nicola Sturgeon and 26 other Glasgow politicians have sent a letter to Priti Patel urging a stop to dawn raids.
The cross-party letter said there is “no support or place” for the Home Office and UK Government’s immigration plan in Scotland.»
The National 22/5/2021
Not exactly we dare you to do your worst Patel, we’ll be ready and waiting for you from herself and those politicians.
Tease, tease, tease…..
Just bin it, chortles Priti, and now for an Aussie lamb kofta. Yummy!
@ sensibledave
link to twitter.com
Aye let’s import shite meat from abysmally treated animals across the greatest distance possible rather than nurture and protect our own producers and products , just so the soulless ciphers that comprise our ruling class can proclaim the success of their grand tax-avoidance scheme/scam and in the process provide utterly useless air-abusers like Blackford another opportunity to bleat ( pun intended ) about the injustice of it all whilst doing precisely fuck-all to prevent it .
And when the hill and other farmers go out of business our superiors from the beautiful south can come up and buy the once productive land for their pet projects and cheaply acquired lebensraum .
* Everyone’s * a winner in the great New Scotland sale of the century
Caveat emptor . There may be some resistance
Dan 8.49
…. and doubtless the loony crew in Australia are sharing stories and pictures of the natives in Scotland going after each other on sectarian lines and the cruelty of sheep stomachs being dragged out and used to serve offal as meat?
As I said Dan, picking fault with foreigners is a good tactic and it really works. Keep going.
Keep doffing that cap and tugging the forelock Davey boy. The life expectancy of vegetarians has just dramatically increased over those of your own.
Isn’t natural selection a bugger.
Dave 9.18
Ah … and now we move on to wishing I’ll will to anyone that holds a different point of view.
Your agenda is so attractive, I can’t understand why everyone in Scotland isn’t on board.
Regarding the school that’s sinking: I understand that the Holyrood parliamentarians, their civil-servants and lawyers who are involved in the cover-up were named yesterday.
Just like the Alex Salmond case, none of them have lost their job. Not one. Some have even been promoted.
World experts said this school will never work in 2017. That has been added to in recent weeks by Scottish experts and yet we still have silence from all at Holyrood.
Welsh farmers are also expressing their rage .Being sold down the river by the Westminster government is something we should all be so used to that it is past remarking.
Sensible Dave says,picking fault with foreigners really works, Well the English should know they’ve been doing it for centuries,
They even managed brexit!
England still on track to destroy Scotland.
I cannot remember where I read that Aldi Australia saw fit to run a TV commercial dissing the Scots accent. Someone of Scottish birth or extraction took them to court (I am unsure on what grounds) and lost their case.
The above case plus other evidence both viewed and anecdotal, plus their treatment of Asian immigrants, plus a John Pilger film on the horrendous treatment of Aborigine detainees – makes ripping the piss out of Australia fair game in my book.
Aye Kye Spoat?
Oneliner
I’ve read here on wings that is generally accepted that the Scottish government and senior ministers are all corrupt, the Scottish Judicial system is corrupt, the Scottish police are corrupt, etc.
Why would the good folk in Oz (or anyone else come to that) want to have a trade deal with such a shower?
Breeks
You will no doubt be pleased to learn; The SNP’s NEC have replaced the Women’s and Equalities Conveners, who went over to the dark side, with the very same people the membership recently voted out of office.
It looks like the dynamic duo have made a plea for more funding to the inquisition in order to crank the witch hunt for transpobes and misogynists current and historical, real and imaginary up to eleven or more.
Good cartoon cris,
Farming is not dying off in Scotland, I heard we’re just gonna breed a different kind of animals.
First the land will be taken away from farmers that would normally pass on to their families,
Then the goverment will take over land to undermine the dangerous animals act, to breed bears, wolfs, bison, big cats, beavers, and great Muckle birds with sharp beaks and big talons, how cuddly
In preparation they are already clearing the land of its natural species, through fox hunting, culling deer, killing hedgehogs, crows, pigeons and fish, rabbits,
Creating an imbalance of nature in our country with more predators than prey,
It’s one way to keep you of the land though,
James Che
… if only Scotland didn’t keep electing the same government eh.
Surely Aussies Sheep are no threat to home bred Scottish Sheep ?
link to twitter.com
The fishermen done up like kippers. Now the farmers led like lambs to slaughter. Never mind folks as long as we British feel “Great” again. What’s not to like?
Nicely sketched Chris.
The only ‘mandate’ the Dear Leader and her Generals are concerned with is the one whereby they’re mandated to pay lip-service to Indy for another 5 years and get paid handsomely whilst doing so.
O/T
Wasn’t yesterday fun? Couldn’t peel myself away from the news channels as watching the BBC getting a kicking was compelling viewing. We’ve had to put up with their twisted version of ‘news’ a.k.a propaganda for years, but because they’ve been caught telling porkies about something other than Scotland the sky has suddenly fallen in. Brilliant! Just don’t ask me to eat any more popcorn…
With an abundance of chemically spiked, hormone injected meat about to hit our shores (origin unknown – no labels of course), don’t worry – think how much cheaper it will be – at least until they destroy the quality home produce. Then they will charge anything they like for their crap. Maybe the safest bet is to go full veggie.
Hmmm
link to twitter.com
Luigi
Is your point that we should just stop our friends and neighbours in the EU from fishing in U.K. waters completely, and that it’s not our problem to worry about how those folk in France, Spain, etc earn a living and feed their families? Asking for a friend.
Spot on Chris, it looks like it will be a zero-quota arrangement with Australia, which will inevitably allow Aussie beef and lamb to undercut the price, and ergo eventually the standards of Scottish produce.
The effects will be devastating to the Scottish beef and lamb farming industry, of course like the fishing industry which is now on the way down, a Tory this time Justice Secretary Robert Buckland said that farmers would not be undercut because of the deal.
Of course we expect this government to attempt to destroy the Scottish economy, as its doing it now, a leopard can’t change its spots as they say.
I blame Sturgeon the Betrayer for allowing Johnson to impose this on Scotland, she’s had six years as FM and we’re not one step closer to exiting this awful onesided union. The Betrayer should’ve listened to calls to make May ‘s vote a plebiscite but she ignored the calls for it.
Instead Sturgeon the Betrayer will focus on pointing the finger of blame towards Westminster to curry favour in Scotland without actually doing anything to get us out of this union. Meanwhile our beef and lamb faring industry will take a nosedive.
Robert Knight @ 10.16
Aye the BBC is grovelling in pathetic mea culpas now simply because the Establishment is faux-outraged at the treatment of one of their own
Yet we’ll not hear a whisper of apology for the despicable treatment and bias they dealt people like Jeremy Corbyn and Alex Salmond ie the disgraceful hatchet-job that was Kirsty Wark’s ” investigation ” – insisting on his guilt despite the unambiguous verdicts of the majority-female jury – and it’s continuous anti-Independence propaganda , in particular from it’s branch office @ BBC Jockland .
And let’s not forget how Saville was still employed by them despite his sick behaviour being common knowledge in media circles for years .
Does the deal come with free movement of people?
Asking for some friends who fancy moving.
Will the deal include ‘Australians’ joining Olympic Team GB?
It’s rumoured that Australia will win all the gold medals because they have been training hard while everyone else is in lockdown.
If we’re ‘doing’ all things Australian, here’s Germaine Greer schooling Kirsty Wark on the whole ‘trans’ stushie. Not sure how old it is, someone said it was 2015, on Newsnight.
@Forwomenscot tweeted the link, as RTed here.
link to twitter.com
Luigi says:
22 May, 2021 at 10:19 am
Maybe the safest bet is to go full veggie.
Sorry Luigi… keep reading link to archive.is.
Neonicotinoids killing the bees, “ …their use is still permitted for oilseed rape in countries like Ukraine, Australia, Canada, which export vegetable oils and margarine.
Chlorpyrifos is also used in Australia. “ …same class of chemicals as sarin nerve gas – is associated with reduced IQ, attention disorders, (ask SensibleDave what it tastes like), and autism in children and infants. Banned in Scotland since 2016.
And so is Chlorothalonil, a fungicide to kill mildew on crops which also kills fish and amphibians. EU members made May 20, 2020 the cut-off date after which it became illegal to store and use.
Even the veggies aren’t safe, and as somebody has already commented earlier, your food labelling won’t be kept to the standard we’ve become accustomed to, so good luck trying not to eat this shit.
Sensible Dave.
I agree with you, the same type of governments keeps repeating in England and Scotland.
The” To wee, Too poor” mantra turns into to stupid by default if Scotland farmers and fishermen allow this to happen,
We have had the ability to feed and look after our own nation for many years, without importing it in to our country.
From famous Aberdeen Angus beef cattle, dairies, wheat, barley, potatoes, vegetables and fruit, wool and fabrics , whiskey , pop drinks and juices , great water supplies , plus water and wind power, boat building , to name a few,
Producing these products and retailing them in our own corner shops instead of to gigantic stores like Tesco’s or Asda etc,
And excess products to the rest of the world gave Scotland massive employment, from the beginning of these processes to the end including shipping and harbours,
The whole population of Scotland is actually less than the population of London. We have more than enough to make us a wealthy country that is self sufficient,
The reason most of our trade goes to England is because of the treaty of the union, Trade was its purpose.
One has to question why are all these skills and crafts that have made Scotland famous, been reduced to universal credit,
Tonight Scots boxer Josh Taylor will attempt to unify four world championship boxing belts, a first for any Scot. Taylor has won Silver and Gold Commonwealth medals. Yet the contest wit Jose Ramirez, won’t be broadcast by BT or Sky sports.
Of course if it were Anthony Joshua or Tyson Fury boxing for the four world champion belts, Sky Sport and BT Sports would be all over it.
I say good luck to young Josh, bring home the belts to Scotland, we at least acknowledge your achievements.
James Che – Highland Spring water was sold to the Arabs years ago. You can now find Highland Spring next to San Pellegrino in most Arab supermarkets throughout the world.
We’ve been importing beef from RoI and lamb from NZ for decades now. It was on the news last night that imports from Australia are unlikely to have a significant effect on the UK market.
“The UK’s main goods exports to Australia are cars, pharmaceuticals and Scotch whisky.”
Which cars & how many?
Can the UK compete against Japan, Thailand & Korea in the Australian car market?
Will the deal make any difference to the sales of Scotch whisky? It’s not as if Australia can go elsewhere.
No idea what these pharmaceuticals are.
Doesn’t sound like a very good deal for the UK could it be there is more to it. Something involving financial services perhaps?
Sometimes those cartoons hit the nail on the head. Great job.
@Sensibledave
Selective reporting – makes the MSM world go round
Captain Yossarian says:
It was on the news last night that imports from Australia are unlikely to have a significant effect on the UK market.
Reply
Were they reading a report prepared by the UK Gov?
link to archive.is
“However, the Financial Times has reported that Australia’s top beef exporter expects to increase sales to the UK by 10 times should a deal go through. Australian beef is produced intensively and more cheaply than its UK equivalent. UK farmers appear to reject the idea that meat produced in the UK to higher standards will find a market in Australia, and potentially at a higher price.”
Is trying to selling beef & lamb to Australia not similar to trying to sell ‘coals to Newcastle’ ‘snow to Eskimos’ or ‘sand to Arabs’?
O/T but remember that while we are all in varying degrees of being worked up about this or that economic or political matter we are being coerced into the position where we have 2 choices in life – accept experimental (yes, that’s right) medical products for which manufacturers have been given legal immunity(yes, that’s right), for which we are officially the test subjects (yes, that’s right), based on obviously inaccurate statistics and media hype (yes, that’s right)or live a life as a prisoner unable to function in society while being stigmatized by the same media and establishment.
Im also of the very strong opinion – any leader or would-be leader of the Scots who is not at least expressing concerns about this is not someone you should put much faith in, especially if they are repeating the establishment narrative.
Even the yanks are starting to fall out of love with Trump for the same reason.
Very shortly the children of our nation will be receiving these medical technologies.
We are at the point at where we each find out what we are made of.
Your silence and lack of critique now will be your legacy and you will deserve the dystopian future that you find yourself in.
Oh- if the comment doesn’t get deleted, say the term ‘conspiracy theory’ in any answer to this and I will dismiss it because at this point in order to simply dismiss these concerns with that term means you are either an A-grade fucking idiot or a shill.
What’s his name and where’re you going?
(sorry)
Remember a couple of years back it was uncovered that
many meat processors in the U.K. were using cheap horse
meat and meats having their sell by date amended.
Would these crooks be disturbed to toss in some kangaroo
or crocodile meat into your pies for an extra profit margin.
The Westminster way is to lie, cheat and rob then rally together
with some fake shock before covering up and continuing after
closing down the whistle blowers.
Noowhosfurra Skippy Snack?
Coodyegoa a Crocodile Croquet ?
Wantina Whichity Grub Waffle?
Ruby – Increasing it by a factor of ten is still nothing Ruby as they export next to nothing to us at the moment.
Since there’s not much to read/watch about independence these days, maybe this is the time to focus on the mighty UK’s economic history. As always, it makes a lot of sense to see how others report on the UK.
link to cbsnews.com
Or take a view from the UK of the UK up to the start of Thatcherism in 1980 –
‘Britain has now been in decline for a hundred years. It has become the most observed and analysed decline in modern history, provoking a speculative literature of enormous dimensions. Few explanations have not been proffered, few causes not dissected, few remedies not canvassed at least twice. The decline has been the central fact about British politiCs for a century, a major preoccupation of its public intellectuals and intermittently but increasingly of its political leaders. Two processes stand out -the absolute decline in the power and status of the British imperial state, and the relative decline ofthe British economy with its long-standing failure to match the rates of expansion of its rivals.’
link to link.springer.com
Since the 1980’s, the privatisation of public assets (selling the family silver) has been the major economic policy of all of the UK Governments. Often these UK Public companies were sold to Governments in other countries.
link to archive.is
But this selling is getting to the inevitable now –
link to archive.is
Now if only the UK could have had a lottery win, say around 1980, then this sell-off could have been avoided and the UK would have thrived in a Global Britain mk II.
link to archive.is
link to archive.is
link to archive.is
Doh!
Added to this lottery win time period is the moral question of successive UK Governments hiding the McCrone report findings from the public from 1975 for 30 years, while at the same time pissing away the lottery windfall.
And now there’s Brexit – Global Britain mk III.
Better Together?
Has anyone else saw this pish?
link to webcache.googleusercontent.com
So Stu started Wings because he was “Identifying a gap in the market”?
Er, no you fking clowns, the only ones who start blogs hoping to make a career out of it are vapid teenage girls – “professional bloggers” stumble into it as it takes up more of their time and they find themselves eventually having to decide what makes the better income.
If Stu had been doing this for business purposes, routinely telling the media and those in economic and political power to go do one was a funny way of going about it.
There’s much bitching about him being Bath-based. Well, when you watch your English neighbours learn the lesson you get the politics and politicians you deserve, and vote accordingly (bye bye northern Labour!), there’s another reason for chucking it. If Scots are determined to keep stumbling in the same old potholes, it’s a bit pointless warning them continually or telling them maybe if they filled them in this wouldn’t happen. You can’t fix wilful stupidity.
As for asking David “The Man Of A Hundred Job Titles” Leask for expert opinion, that’s like asking a Herald journalist to write an objective piece about Rangers!
Nope, Stu’s just decided he’d sooner have fun – quite right too and is now stepping back as he said he would last year to allow events to take their course.
When the disasters for Scottish nationalism he warned of come to pass, when it all proves a house of cards collapsing upon woke foundations shakier than a PPI school under the weight of Sturgeon’s enormous moon orbited ego, don’t be expecting him to ride back on his white charger to save the day.
Scotland’s railways have become ‘British’ possessions overnight!
Your essential weekend reading:
‘Sturgeon’s Skeleton’: link to wp.me
Sensibledave says: at 9:03 am
“As I said Dan, picking fault with foreigners is a good tactic and it really works. Keep going.”
So you’ve somehow managed to interpret the words of the President of the National Farmers Union of Scotland, where he is pointing out that the UK Prime Minister has failed to take on board the advice of U.K. farmers, environmentalists and consumers who are interested in animal welfare standards and food production systems, as somehow picking fault with foreigners…
Meerkat alert:
MSM running diversionary UFO stories
Grouse Beater @ 12.16pm
Another belter Gareth, more poweer to your elbow.
United Kingdom and British, key words in the «cancel culture» signified by the political status quo
English history, English literature the over arching terms within which cultural Scotland is constrained to operate.
The conflation of the terms English with British goes on in the promotion of a one-size-fits-all Unionism.
The minister whose portfolio includes «culture» has the following interests.
[Outside politics Robertson is a music fan, and particularly likes Metallica and Belle and Sebastian. He is a supporter of the Heart of Midlothian football team.]
Wikipedia.
So we may expect little from that quarter.
Perfect Chris, thanks. If we didn’t laugh we’d cry 🙂
I take it Robertson isn’t a great fan of Metallica’s fourth studio album, though.
Hope your friend is better Stuart.
@Sensibledave 22 May, 2021 at 10:22 am
“Is your point that we should just stop our friends and neighbours in the EU from fishing in U.K. waters completely, and that it’s not our problem to worry about how those folk in France, Spain, etc earn a living and feed their families? Asking for a friend.”
Err if they earn their living from fishing then why can’t they fish in their own waters instead of ours ? Asking for a Scottish Fisherman friend. The answer is of course “no reason at all”
Grousebeater@12.16
Well said – that is a damning record!
Also, an astute observation that overnight Scotrail will become part of the new GBR! Hmmm!
Don’t do it all at once Boris, slowly slowly catches Monkey!
I wasn’t going to post again
But this has to be publicised far and wide
Transcotlandia is already here
And they’re coming for you
link to twitter.com
And here’s the police officer who made the call
link to lgbtipolice.scot
James Che – it’s WHISKY. ‘Whiskey’ is Irish or American.
James Che @10.47
I was reading an article a couple of days ago about how the WM Gov wants to give farmers 100k to retire so that, allegedly, younger farmers can take over because they are more receptive to modern methods which are greener.
i.e. they will accept GM crops and won’t want to raise our own meat because of methane emissions so we can import all sorts of stuff and get better trade deals.
I can’t imagine that this is driven by an urge to ‘go organic’.
J.o.e 22 May, 2021 at 11:24 am
“O/T but remember that while we are all in varying degrees of being worked up about this or that economic or political matter we are being coerced into the position where we have 2 choices in life – accept experimental (yes, that’s right) medical products for which manufacturers have been given legal immunity(yes, that’s right), for which we are officially the test subjects (yes, that’s right), based on obviously inaccurate statistics and media hype (yes, that’s right)or live a life as a prisoner unable to function in society while being stigmatized by the same media and establishment.
Im also of the very strong opinion – any leader or would-be leader of the Scots who is not at least expressing concerns about this is not someone you should put much faith in, especially if they are repeating the establishment narrative.
Very shortly the children of our nation will be receiving these medical technologies.
Your silence and lack of critique now will be your legacy and you will deserve the dystopian future that you find yourself in.
Oh- if the comment doesn’t get deleted, say the term ‘conspiracy theory’ in any answer to this and I will dismiss it because at this point in order to simply dismiss these concerns with that term means you are either an A-grade fucking idiot ”
======================================================
And YOU go Off Topic why ? Because of your need need to spread you own “Fucking idiot ” invented conspiracy theories that is why.
“The vaccines approved for use in the UK have met strict standards of safety, quality and effectiveness set out by the independent Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA).
Any COVID-19 vaccine that is approved must go through all the clinical trials and safety checks all other licensed medicines go through. The MHRA follows international standards of safety.
Other vaccines are being developed. They will only be available on the NHS once they have been thoroughly tested to make sure they are safe and effective.
So far, millions of people have been given a COVID-19 vaccine and reports of serious side effects, such as allergic reactions or clotting problems, have been very rare.” link to nhs.uk
@ Meg merrilees 22 May, 2021 at 1:09 pm
“I was reading an article a couple of days ago about how the WM Gov wants to give farmers 100k to retire so that, allegedly, younger farmers can take over because they are more receptive to modern methods which are greener.
i.e. they will accept GM crops and won’t want to raise our own meat because of methane emissions so we can import all sorts of stuff and get better trade deals.
I can’t imagine that this is driven by an urge to ‘go organic’.”
You can’t imagine ? Seems unlikely because the article you read actually suggested none of these things did it and you yoruself just actually “imagined them” yourself ? Too funny.
mike cassidy says:
22 May, 2021 at 1:05 pm
I wasn’t going to post again
“But this has to be publicised far and wide
Transcotlandia is already here
And they’re coming for you”
Good luck getting inward investment with the HCB on the statute book. I’ll never return to Scotland as long as the SNP are in power.
Off to enjoy my white privilege of a 80 hour work week to support my family.
Don’t you just adore Sturgeon the Betrayers virtual signalling over the Home office’s snatch and grab of the men from a Glasgow street, I don’t recall seeing her in Kenmure street, lying under the van, yet again I don’t recall seeing her at AUOB marches either. The Betrayer prattles on about how Scotland stand for freedom and democracy, and how Scotland opposes the HO decision, which is all very well if you are going to hold an indyref to get out of this absurd union, and set our own immigration rules.
However yet again Sturgeon the Betrayer is just playing to the Scottish gallery of Westminster bad, and look here, I will speak out about it but that’s as far as I’ll go. Sturgeon the Betrayer, only ever wants to portray herself and her party in a good versus evil Holyrood and Westminster struggle, but she won’t actually go any further no indyref that’s for sure, what a charlatan she is, and the majority of the uninformed Scottish public buy it hook line and sinker.
link to twitter.com
I think the main issue here is knowing all about your food source from origin to table, to hold higher standards for the well-being of land, animals, humans and the planet.
Not for trade deals for quick bucks and government,
Home grown is always best.
Sorry for to those whom thought I did dodgy spelling, had a visitor in bye as I was writing. Concentration not as it should be maybe.
Having said that, my schooling was in a corrugated tin hut in a forest, with a one Victorian teacher that was well past retirement, in the hills of Argyll before it became known to the outside world,
Not even a proper road to our house, Doctor used to use canoe up the loch in summer,
I do think I may make errors in the future here, so no shame felt by me,
, for a limited education and not being a drinker I think I do rather well.
Captain Yossarian says:
22 May, 2021 at 12:04 pm
Ruby – Increasing it by a factor of ten is still nothing Ruby as they export next to nothing to us at the moment.
Reply
If the UK exports next to no goods to Australia and Australia exports next to no goods to the UK what’s the big deal about the Australian trade deal?
It will increase imports and exports significantly. You might be able to buy cheap Australian beef at Lidl for example, but not anywhere else. That’s my reading of it.
@Don
‘Because of your need need to spread you own “Fucking idiot ” invented conspiracy theories’
Sorry Don, you failed
But for what its worth the vaccines are not approved. They are still in the testing stage as per manufacturers statement. The reason they are being rolled out is because they were given emergency use authorisation
They got emergency use authorisation because of the lockdowns.
The lockdowns were ‘justified’ due to fraudulent PCR tests that I detailed in an earlier thread.
So yes – A-grade fucking idiot or shill.
Make a choice
James
However the one thing I was taught really well, was manners and respect towards others, smiley face and a wink.
Lady Heehaw 🙂
Did anyone spot the ‘the Morphy Richard’s Iron’
in that video?
Not easy to find the correct meaning/origin of the phrase
‘Heehaw’.
I had to wade through loads of stuff about loud, harsh cries of donkeys or mules, cachinnation, cackle, guffaw, laugh, laughter, cachinnate, die laughing, laugh-one-s-head-off, roll-in-the-aisles, split-one-s-sides and sounds.
Tut Google! I said heehaw not yee-haw
Finally I found this: 🙂
“Scottish vernacular meaning nothing or very little. Comes from Glaswegian rhyming slang for “F**k aw” (“aw” being vernacular for “all”).!”
“Captain Yossarian says:
22 May, 2021 at 2:57 pm
It will increase imports and exports significantly. You might be able to buy cheap Australian beef at Lidl for example, but not anywhere else. That’s my reading of it.”
Oh pray tell where did you dig that little gem up.
Lidl is a well known promoter of Scottish produce, one of the few to do so.
link to lidl.co.uk
From the news last night. It will increase the volume of Australian beef in our shops by 0.1%. I said Lidl just as an example.
You are doing alright as far as I am concerned James.
AN ABSOLUTE DISGUSTING ABUSE OF POWER.
mike cassidy says on 22 May, 2021 at 1:05 pm
“I wasn’t going to post again. But this has to be publicised far and wide. Transcotlandia is already here. And they’re coming for you”
link to twitter.com
“And here’s the police officer who made the call:”
link to lgbtipolice.scot
Captain Yossarian says:
22 May, 2021 at 2:57 pm
It will increase imports and exports significantly. You might be able to buy cheap Australian beef at Lidl for example, but not anywhere else. That’s my reading of it.
Reply
Is there something wrong with Australian beef?
Will it be boycotted by Waitrose customers?
Australian beef only good enough for the plebs?
What are these other imports & exports you refer to?
Captain Yossarian says:
22 May, 2021 at 3:18 pm
From the news last night. It will increase the volume of Australian beef in our shops by 0.1%. I said Lidl just as an example.
Reply
News read by Lord HawHaw?
James Che. says:
22 May, 2021 at 3:07 pm
James
However the one thing I was taught really well, was manners and respect towards others, smiley face and a wink.
Reply
Just incase you fancy doing a 🙂
or a 😉 etc
)-: for smiley face
)-; a wink
(-: frown
above is a mirror image. Reverse order of ( & : ;
– always in the middle ) or ( last : ; first.
Finger crossed this works
Captain Yossarian says:
22 May, 2021 at 2:57 pm
It will increase imports and exports significantly. You might be able to buy cheap Australian beef at Lidl for example, but not anywhere else. That’s my reading of it.
The volume of beef isn’t the point. It’s that Scottish beef producers will need to cut their standards to keep their prices competitive just to sell their product, and compromising their standards means production begins to diverge away from European standards restricting their capacity to export to Europe.
When you cater for the lowest common denominator, the lowest common denominator determines what your standards are. Ordinary farmers never speak to the supermarkets or food processing companies. The farmer takes his beasts to sales and auctions, and he’ll feel the effect through the prices his livestock fetch, not the shelf price in Lidl’s.
You might be able to buy steak with a saltire, at a premium cost, but all the beef in pies, lasagnas, shepherds pies, processed foods and ready meals will not pick and choose on principle, and the hard earned prestige of “Scotch Beef” will be downgraded. The bar has been lowered.
Don @ 1.25 pm
You wrote –
You can’t imagine ? Seems unlikely because the article you read actually suggested none of these things did it and you yoruself just actually “imagined them” yourself ? Too funny.
Sorry to burst your hilarity bubble but if you click on the link below you will read the very article I was discussing. Definitely too funny, ha ha ha!
link to bbc.co.uk
Don’t bother apologising I appreciate that you can’t help being stupid.
“From the news last night. It will increase the volume of Australian beef in our shops by 0.1%. I said Lidl just as an example.”
Captain Yossarian.
Fair enough, but why add that you won’t find it anywhere else. Why wouldn’t you be able to buy cheap Aussie beef/lamb anywhere else, did your news programme say that its exclusive to Lidls.
After 2 hours spent wrestling a lawnmower across my lush lawn, I suggest it should be government policy to allocate households a sheep to keep their grass down.
This will save on the noise and fumes pollution of using a petrol mower, and generate organic waste to add sustenance to the soil for growing more veg.
Think global act local, and get a cleaner environment and a load of tasty lamb chops into the bargain.
Oh, and by the way, DON, just in case you didn’t quite understand the first article – here is another one.
link to bbc.co.uk
That’s not the way I read it, Breeks. What they were saying was that the cost of importing the beef over that distance would negate any real cost benefit. They are more worried that it will open the door to future imports from the USA and South America, which could be a lot cheaper.
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Is it just me or has anyone else notice the mysterious (and very welcome) disappearance of ALL of the the under noted multiple-ID-troll aock-puppet accounts ALL AT THE SAME TIME…
Rock,,,
Kcor,,,
Stainless Steel,,,
Andy Three Commas,,,
Eugene Henderson,,,
Market Forces,,,
Hudson,,,
Labour4Indy,,,
Patrick Jones,,,
Flaccid Squaddie P45,,,
Gang Rape Gordy,,,
No complaints from this end.
Just that whoever the sad involuntary celibate was that hid behind all those names and had conversations with himself, herself or itself must either be in Barlinnie or a psych ward or Colchester Barracks awaiting Court Martial.
It’s like the stench of rotting fish, mixed with overpowering body odour has lifted from the Wings site and it is possible to breathe cleanly and debate with decent human beings again without the persistent, pervasive piss-filled rantings of a 77th Brigade’s worst kept secret. Double-OO-tosspot.
In my best Taggart voice – “There’s been a sticker” it’s the lampost victims I feel sorry for. Don’t worry Kirkcaldy police are on the case, call Crimestoppers – lamposts have feelz too.
Meanwhile, the war on women continues. Thought Police Scotland are doing their best to criminalise a mother of 2 special needs children for a tweet!
Football hooligans – aye you get a free pass.
Female tweeter – down to the cop shop for you.
I don’t even think Orwell could have predicted this farsical society that Scotland has become. Scotland this is your HCB in plain sight. I could weep.
AUOB had the right idea holding an indy demo outside Holyrood today,(cancelled due to Covid) though outside Bute House when Sturgeon the Betrayer is present would be preferable, especially if she were entertaining a foreign diplomat who might ask the odd awkward question.
Now AUOB is going to hold one next month, not outside Holyrood or Bute House, or even outside the Betrayers house in Glasgow, but on Bannockburn field, much to the relief of the Betrayer, out of sight out of mind as they say.
It will be the usual unfocused on the Betrayers lack of indy movement since she took the reins in 2015 as FM. Instead I imagine it will be just another happy clappy flag waving exercise with a few guest speakers, and a bit of music thrown in to keep the marchers entertained.
The AUOB needs to evolve from a happy clappy bagpipe playing tourist attraction, to a serious demo organisation that hounds Sturgeon the Betrayer at every turn to get on and deliver independence. Without this vital course of action Sturgeon the Betrayer will just ignore the AUOB, as she has done for years regardless of whether there’s 100,000 marchers or even 200,000 marchers.
Ruby.
Thank you, and faith in nice people reinstated. Is this right? ( -:
Fancy that still learning at my age.
My My. The trolls are working very hard today, to play down the significance of this coming tariff-free beef deal with Australia, methinks. I have to admit, their imaginative efforts are impressive if not entirely believable. 🙂
On another note does anybody really care if the notorious lying state broadcaster the BBC duped the poncing royal Diana into giving an interview.
Royals are an affront to society, who receive huge amounts of state subsidies, the best of food, medical treatment and are cosseted from birth to death, at the taxpayers expense.
I would hope that an independent Scotland would dispense with this ruritanian nonsense, like many other countries have had the sense to do.
Let England keep its debauched royal family, Scotland has no need of it.
Giving that the bbc is partially state funded, that would make them civil servants would it not?
@ ROS
I suggest the ceremonial laying of many carrots would make for an apt form a protest.
Luigi – the ‘imaginative efforts’ are informed by last night’s news programmes. Try watching the news from time to time; it will inform you and make you less bitter.
As a door closes
link to theguardian.com
Hey, ho another opens…..
They dont do meat or fishing in the home counties.
Let them eat brioche!
Dont ya just wish ya had a party that, fists ready, stood up for you!
Lemme tell ya ’bout your blood Brexit kid
It ain’t Kangeroo it’s lorne
Straight to hell boys
Save your crocodile tears the farming community are really the pits, especially the hill farmers. Most of them have sold their hills for afforestation after buying them from the rest of us for next to fuck all.
I’ve worked for then for sixty years back and forward and they would skin a louse for its tallow.
When the Forestry Commission was winding up they sold all the farms to sitting tenants for knock down prices, plenty back handers about in these days.
What’s to stop them exporting on the free market? the price of Scotch lamb has been ridiculously high for years.
I we are going to make Brexit work we must take advantage of new trade deals and everybody will have to get the finger out.
I’m not buying into the soppy shit that Prince William found solace in Scotland after finding out the BBC were nasty to his mum. The future king of the UK, hopefully minus Scotland, who spent millions of taxpayers cash doing up his family home, was also said to be sitting in a beer garden in Edinburgh watching the Scottish cup Final.
In my opinion Willie is part of the love bombing plot aimed at Scotland to reinforce this God awful onesided union. Little does bald Willie know that Sturgeon the Betrayer has no plans for Scottish independence.
Davey boy 09:24:
Don’t you just love the projection on show here. Workhouse rules kid, if you can’t take it don’t dish it out.
There’s a whole lot of difference between a bit of verbal and actively supporting, as you clearly are, policy actions which will actually adversely affect the health of others through reducing the quality and standards of available food. Reducing choice.
So stop whining like a mardy arsed five year old. You sound like one of that section of the woke who kick the arse out of it.
Quite frankly if Australian meat is of excellent quality and if it is cheaper than Scottish meat then I’ll certainly buy it.
No one owes our Scottish farmers, or their English – British counterparts a living. Too many farmers are well known for their grant grabbing yet Tory leaning inclinations. And as we know, like the hapless fishermen, they were pro Brexit.
So hell mend the Scottish farming and fishing sector. Good Australian beef at good prices – and hard luck for our now invisible Union Jack marketed Scottish meat industry.
Socrates MacSporran says:
22 May, 2021 at 8:37 am
My inner pedant forces me to suggest – most of the sheep in Australia are the merino breed, bred for wool rather than meat.
Any lamb or mutton coming in will more likely be from New Zealand, where the natives’ proclavity for “sheep worrying” has apparently meant a more-edible animal being bred.
link to rspca.org.au
visit Jaggy.blog looks like Nicla may be going down the Independence in the UK road
Yes and good New Zealand lamb too if it comes over at the right prices.
And as a further comment, has anyone noticed how our now Union Jack adorned beef prices have gone through the roof recently.
At a conservative guess I’d say there has been a 20% plus increase in beef prices over the last six months, and it looks like the meat industry is creaming their prices.
Yes, good quality Australian meat at good prices is what we want.
@ wullie
Here’s the link.
link to jaggy.blog
James Che. says:
22 May, 2021 at 4:27 pm
Ruby.
Thank you, and faith in nice people reinstated. Is this right? ( -:
Fancy that still learning at my age.
Reply
Everyday is a learning day. I learn something new everyday on Wings.
You’ve got your smiley face nearly right except it’s the wrong way round.
You do : – ) without spaces
If I remove the spaces I get 🙂
although the smiley face doesn’t show up until you upload it.
Dan @ 6.11
Just read Jagyy’s blog – thank you for the link. Has a scary last couple of sentences though!
…The Anglo-American Deep State might launch a clandestine dirty war to prevent that happening, which is a chilling prospect.But nothing compared to the Firth of Clyde being at the centre of a full-scale nuclear conflagration.
Roll on Indy!
Dan says:
22 May, 2021 at 4:41 pm
@ ROS
I suggest the ceremonial laying of many carrots would make for an apt form a protest.
Reply
Yes! Dangling carrots.
I would like to suggest that if you want to dangle carrots from the parliament that you either knit or crochet your carrots if you cant do that then buy some plastic ones from Ebay 3 quid for 30 carrots.
Anywhere else dangling Value carrots should be fine.
The reason for this is that I don’t want the parliament rats being attracted by the fresh carrots & the neighbourhood being overrun by these parliament rats.
How many people saw one of the parliament rats running across the screen when she/her was being question by Maureen Watt?
link to archive.is
These ladies knitted ‘Happy Birthday’ last year on 19th July for she/her’s birthday and pinned it to the railings in front of Bute House & St Andrews House.
Might be a good time & place to display your handywork.
Does anyone need me to repost instructions on how to knit, crochet & glue gun a a dangling carrot? 🙂
OK Antipodean meat proves to be edible and slightly cheaper.
You are the type that doesn’t give a damn about well documented
cruelty to exported meats nor the environmental impact of transporting
animals 12,000 miles.
You are happy to see Scottish Farms closed and left to run wild.
You pay for the unemployment and now with no competition and
shortages here, who is going to guess which way the price of
Australian meat might go?
Exactly!
Geez, biatch, biatch, biatch about bojo & GB, UK gov, tories, England, English, tory voters + + +, now add Aussies, their farming methods, shit beef, shit lamb + + +. But hey, you all want to be baws deep in the EU and import any & every fvcker and home, feed, clothe & keep them and their multiple wives & children, the darker the better eh!. See here’s a wee clue why Scotland isn’t independent & why no snp or alba type party will ever get you your prized not independent independence. The majority of every day Scots don’t like working their ass off for 55 years scrimping & scraping while boat loads of gimmiegrants rock up in rubber boats and driven to their 3 + star hotels and 3 Square meals a day, £s , phones + + + all paid for by us normal folk, us that are no more Scottish than the new arrivals according to most of you. Most of us don’t want illegals outstanding their welcome, we want to work hard when able and to support our own before we support aliens. We don’t want our Parliament filled with 14 languages, we don’t want anyone making laws in our land who doesn’t either swear in on a Christian Bible or by affirming, a q’ran should NEVER be in our Parliament & no politician should ever display rainbows & trans sh1t anywhere. Our politicians are elected to represent us all, no out group should be given preferential treatment, and our schools should not be indoctrination camps for minorities. These are reasons you whiners are stuck with a duplicitous midwit & her midget gem for the next 5, 10, 20 years. But it’s all down to bojo, the tories, the….. in a nutshell, Scotland is fvcked because it’s just not Scottish enough for jock Thomson & his bairns.
I still have several hundred left-over Panini Football ’79 stickers in a drawer but I don’t know whether they are controversial: would it be on a case-by-case basis?
Cenchos says:
22 May, 2021 at 7:06 pm
“I still have several hundred left-over Panini Football ’79 stickers in a drawer but I don’t know whether they are controversial: would it be on a case-by-case basis?”
Just get some markers, draw a dress on couple of them, maybe a bit faux eyeliner on one. If they come for you, tell them 1979 was transphobic so you’re correcting history. They like that sort of thing.
Aye. Alfie Conn had already transitioned by then.
From twitter..
“Rangers FC are taking legal action against Humza Yousaf (Scottish Heath Secretary, and former Scottish Justice Secretary) after police cleared players of using sectarian language during title celebrations..”
So will this be even more public money being diverted, via the courts, to RFC?
@AWhiteLife
“The majority of every day Scots don’t like working their ass off for 55 years scrimping & scraping while boat loads of gimmiegrants rock up in rubber boats and driven to their 3 + star hotels and 3 Square meals a day, £s , phones + + + all paid for by us normal folk, us that are no more Scottish than the new arrivals according to most of you.”
Trust me your anything but normal if you’ve worked for 55 years in the Yookay.
@ Cenchos
You’re probably straying into dubious legality mentioning that you own such merchandise.
I feel I am also on dodgy territory, as I helped a couple of older folk clear their houses when they downsized, but due to lockdown I am still in possession of boxes of stuff from a bygone era as I’ve been unable to get rid of it all to the charity shops.
TBF I can make use of some of the women’s clothes what with the transing, but some of the boxes of books and magazines are not what would be classed as politically correct in these modern times.
Take for instance the BUNTY comic No.233 “A Dog’s Life For Donna”. The title reeks of poor Donna being refereed to in a derogatorily manner and enduring an oppressed existence.
(Incidentally the only Donna I knew was a cracker of a lass from Orkney, but I digress).
Also of concerning is the pile of SCOTS magazines which still have cigarette advertising on the rear cover, which presumably breaches modern day plain packaging legislation.
I’m driven to drink as I sit worrying that the chap on the door will come and I’ll be charged with possession of illegal material condoning Hate Crime and the stylish promotion of Dunhill and Peter Stuyvesant smokes.
Oh God. There’s a Black Bob annual as well.
Don. You’re gullible or a Government shill. Which is it? Theses”vaccines” are being treated as an experiment by insurance companies. Prove me wrong. In Thailand people are being arrested for refusing the vaccine.Children don’t need to be vaccinated. I’m sick of snake oil salesmen with Government ministers owning shares in their Gene therapy experiment.
The irony of the comments about tainted food from another country while our Governments are trying to make us take DNA altering Gene therapies is grimly amusing
Complaining about New Zealand lamb.. Is this a local shop for local people? Is this Royston Vasey?
Effigy says:
22 May, 2021 at 6:47 pm
“stuff”
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In the meantime back on planet reality
link to pbs.twimg.com
Is it possible to have something that is fucked and then fuck it even some more??
@ Cenchos
Just be glad you don’t own The
BroonsNon Contentious Colours, or OorWullieUnspecified Sexual Genitalia annuals…I hope Rangers win against Yusuf. The SNP attacks their culture. It may be low culture…. but it is still their culture.
Luigi. Do you know any farmers? People get what they vote for even if its a surprise to them. Fuck them. You’ll still eat well. Just make sure it’s properly cooked… in clean kitchen equipment. No worries no drame. Let the Farmers do all the worrying.
Good evening Effigy, I appreciate the emotive nature of your response that Australian meats might prove to be edible. They are in fact that and more. I’ve stayed there.
I also appreciate the emotive nature of your comment about loss of Jobs, who’ll pay the unemployment benefit and so on if folks don’t buy British.
I used to make the biggest effort possible not to buy British but buy Scottish. Beef, lamb, pork, chicken, vegetables – the lot. Good for local employment, good for food miles, and good because I thought it was good quality.
But those days are gone. Out of the EU it is a race to the bottom whether it be chlorinated chicken or the use of herbicides priorly banned, or in worker protections. That the UK Internal Market Bill has removed all manner of powers from the Scottish Parliament gives mechanism to these changes.
But you know what Effigy, this sadly is what the great Scottish public voted for. We gave a signal not to leave the EU, but voted for a party who did not stop it. We voted for a party who I believe is not committed to independence, who deliberately promoted the squandering of 1,094,000 second votes.
Yeh, I’m pro Scotland but is the general public pro Scotland. Of course they are not. Too many don’t care. A nation, a proud nation, who’s like us – aye we know the story.
So yes, buy Australian if it’s a better deal. That after all is what we voted for.
Anyone who believes the NHS on covid vaccine is being misled. Go to UK Columns website to get the inside story from whistle-blower nurses. Northern Approaches with David Scott is worth a look also. Sadly there are no left wing sites or commentators I can advise because the Left have fallen for Global Bankers pre-planned “Pandemic” If covid 19 is a pandemic why is has barely anyone died of it recently? All you hear about are “cases cases cases” but no deaths. Funny old pandemic that.
Don. Do you work for the pharmaceutical industry?
The PCR test is the full rum of Government policy and it is being improperly used in order to achieve apparently positive result.
Where are all the dead people? Come on. Bring out your dead.
Pixywine.
I’m the undecided but I have an open mind.
Give me your best three links that prove Covid is a scam
Hi AWhiteLife at 6:52.
Your contribution was unreadable at this time of night, due to your overuse of +++ (what kind of grammar is that?), and your lack of paragraph breaks, and my partaking of Bell’s and Iron Brew (Lidl).
Verdict?
Must try harder…
Stoker. If the policewoman had a case she would be at the door with an arrest Warren. No one should ever attend a police interview without a lawyer. Just keep ignoring them. It’s a police “fishing expedition. I hope Marian Miller sees this.
Marian Millar. The police want you to attend an “interview” because she wants to sit with one of her colleagues, get you on your own and trick you into incriminating yourself. GET A LAWYER.
Marion. If the Police have a case against you they’ll come to your door. They’re fishing.
We’ll come to Tyranny. All of a piece with covid medical Tyranny. Join the dots children.
Dave Oga Check out Reiner Feulmich on his YouTube channel. You could always surf the net yourself.
My objection to importing meat from Australia/NZ concerns food mileage; something that’s been much talked-about with regard to global warming. The airlines’re itching to get back to the old normal and don’t want discussion of lower-emissions travel – taking the train to London rather than flying, for example.
We’ve had an idle year to discuss/implement different ways of doing things to combat this, and nothing’s happened.
Derek, buying locally produced Scottish produce was a big thing for me. Good for local jobs, good for food miles.
But these days are gone. You cant identify Scottish produce under the blanket Union Jack branding.
The farmers and producers of this food have hitherto have in the majority cared little of their identity. Tory voting, brexit supporting, subsidy loving the industry is now getting what it voted for.
The country in fact is getting what it voted for, so what’s the beef, if that be the appropriate word.
Scotland the brand is finished. We need to get used to that Derek.
More focus on hormone injected beef.
Less focus on hormone injected twitter beefs.
Dave’s been busy again. 🙂
#CSIKirkcaldy
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Heard a fine tune called ‘grouse beater’ on radio shortbreads marvelous Pipeline earlier.
Very suitable.
Heartening to see the pish being ripped out of St Nic and co.
More of this please, they defo don’t like it.
Pixy. Nonsense. Rangers actually live in denial of their celtic-Gaelic culture. Instead they have an invented British union Ulster ideology. It’s not a culture at all.
Just a hate fest directed at Scottishness, Irishness,Catholicism and anyone else who gets in their way.
The legal action is a veiled threat. I repeat again. The police have not said the video was fake or the singing never happened. Only no proven criminality.
Stop falling for the Rangers diversion techniques. They are trying to divert you from their scumbag fans and the actual things that happened.
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The Police continue to show their corrupt unionism in more
and more obvious forms as who is there to call when their
acts are criminal?
I could recognise a hundred law breaking fans committing a multitude
of crimes from video clips on the internet but who have the police searched
or appealed for to come forward? No one.
The police wear body cameras, some of their vehicles have CCTV, there is street CCTV
but there doesn’t seem enough proof that these are Celtic fans in Rangers tops so they leave it.
We are accused of throwing our face into the law abiding knuckle dustered fist of the police.
For those interested.
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Big Jock. So you speak Gealig?
Everyone’s an expert now meat import and export.
We already import more lamb from New Zealand than we export to the EU. But not much difference. Though overall we import more lamb than we export. Not much from Australia though. And as I can remember eating New Zealand lamb as a child, which would be the 1960s, nothing new about meat trade, especially for a country who is a net importer of meat.
Of course lamb is a seasonal meat and the Antipodes produce at a different time to ourselves.
But hey, lets not let facts get in the way of a good grievance.
Now, if you were to be as concerned about transportation of live animals, I’d back you all the way. We followed a truck from the top of Skye coming of Lewis to the mainland, one of the sheep had its head stuck for the whole journey. We stopped the driver and he thought we were mad to be concerned. Personally I can’t think of a single reason why live animals have to be exported.
I think the real problem with Rangers fans here is that they have proved by their actions that there is no “pandemic” to be afraid of. So. All you “lockdown” queen’s out there can crawl out if your holes and get back to your lives. Stop falling for the same propaganda about India that many fell for a year ago.
Dave Oga. Try Dr Sam Bailey on YouTube.
Pixywine,
Why don’t you put the bottle down, take the clown makeup off and leave the junk science youtube alone. You’ll feel much better for it in the morning.
We buy direct from the farm. Top quality at reasonable prices. Australian imports will have no effect on us.
Aren’t I great? I sound like one of those Barbour jacket wankers.
It’s true though. Look into supporting local farms and business more than ever. Westminster cant stop us doing that.
Pixywine is right.
Covid was over last Summer. They’ve been scamming us out of our rightful lives and freedoms since then.
Why we’re not at Holyrood with pitchforks I do not understand.
Sturgeon’s atrocious action in putting Glasgow in level 3 at the last moment, when it was too late for hospitality businesses to cancel orders, and with staff booked, was pure evil.
Only one persons job matters in Scotland.
And we’ve just handed the bitch another 5 years.
By “we” I mean collectively. I wouldn’t vote for the ginger goblin or her scumbag enablers if my life depended on it.
“Aren’t I great? I sound like one of those Barbour jacket wankers.”
Everyone to their own Charles, but that’s pretty niche.
Wipe clean though.
😉
The greatest cost in all this is the cost to the environment – the pollution caused by transporting refrigerated produce thousands of miles around the world. In these times of ecological crisis we should be producing and shopping locally which, for us, means Scottish produce with Scottish standards.
Not only is such hair-brained thinking environmentally catastrophic, it is also economically devastating for local farmers whether they be English, Scottish or Welsh; sacrificed at the altar of political desperation and intellectual bankruptcy.
Personally, as a vegetarian, I would like to see an end to the meat trade and animal slaughter altogether.
Could not agree more Saffron Robe that we should not be refrigerating meat and sending it all the way round the globe. The logic of not shopping locally and supporting locally produced provenance escapes me too.
But that is exactly what we voted for. You cannot odds it any other way. Brexit and trade deals like this with Australia is I repeat what we voted for. And the destruction of the choice to buy Scottish produce identified as Scottish. Well just take a stroll down the meat and vegetable counters and look at the extent to which produce is now identified and emblazoned with the Union Jack. That didn’t happen by accident either.
Scotland the brand, and in fact the country is being wiped off the shoe as surely as a piece of dirt is wiped off one’s shoe – and does the average consumer voter care. Or does our elected pretend parliament in Edinburgh care.
Course not their focus is GRA, HCA and other such pressing matters. Who’s like us – Eh?
Pixywine says:
23 May, 2021 at 12:29 am
“Dave Oga. Try Dr Sam Bailey on YouTube.”
Ta. That’s what I was looking for. Someone who can explain using scientific truths.
Im working abroad just now, where there is mandatory mask wearing outdoors. Very uncomfortable in the heat. I took video yesterday of this old bodach walking alone, no one within 50 metres, stopping everyone once in while to take the mask off his nose to breath. He was obviously distressed. Wicked. A government terrorising its people for no valid reason
even if this invidious charade was based in fact.
Misses the point that the biggest threat to Scottish farming are Irish imports. We import more beef from Ireland than the entire Scottish beef production. A lot of beef that comes from Ireland isn’t even Irish, it’s polish or Romanian raised in substandard conditions. Queen Nicola would quite happily destroy the country to feed her vanity.
Also got to laugh at the “proud Scottish patriots” on here who are happy for Scottish farming to be thrown to the dogs… mind you when you haven’t worked a day in yer rotten life it would be hard to appreciate how frustrating it is to knock yer pan in 24/7 in all weathers for zero return. The New SNP1 crowd descend further into the cesspit every day, these people could not give a damn about Scotland or it’s people.
A Scottish Boxer, Josh Taylor won his fight in
Las Vagas last night to become the first Scot
to unify his title by now holding all 4 versions
for his weight category.
He proudly upheld his country’s flag, the Saltire on winning.
Strangely for such a big important history making event, we
Couldn’t see it here in Scotland.
BBC news did give a photo and 15 seconds on the story after
30 seconds of Formula 1 drivers practicing before a race and 30
seconds of talk and videos discussing a possible Tyson Fury Vs
Anthony Joshua fight at some time in the future.
Oh and a full length interview with English Swimmer Peaty who
won a gold medal yesterday.
Just watched some clips of the Eurovision Song Contest.
There were some stinkers in there and England’s GB entry
wasn’t so bad compared to other but it got Zero Points.
That score wasn’t down to the performance on the stage but
the performance of the U.K. politicians.
It’s been made clear team Boris see themselves as superior to
Johnny Foreigner and they are happy to sign and then break agreements
put the Good Friday agreement in peril.
Freddie Mercury couldn’t have gathered 2 points to rub together when representing GB.
What a farce Great Britain!
How on earth did they ever get away with giving themselves the title great?
Can you imagine reaction if Germany announced that as having the strongest economy in
EU and having welcomed over 1,000,000 refugees, they now wish to be known Great Germany?
Effigy
You betray yourself. Accusing people of seeing others as Johnny Foreigner when you clearly have utter contempt for other people based on where they come from.
The island is called Great Britain, it relates to geography.
As for josh Taylor, I follow boxing and the fact is he isn’t major box office as he’s only a light welterweight. If he keeps going the way he is he will get the headlines eventually, he needs to go after super fights now,
Effigy
Bloody hell! Someone other than me as called you out! About time.
Shocked says:
23 May, 2021 at 7:38 am
“Misses the point that the biggest threat to Scottish farming are Irish imports. We import more beef from Ireland than the entire Scottish beef production. A lot of beef that comes from Ireland isn’t even Irish, it’s polish or Romanian raised in substandard conditions. Queen Nicola would quite happily destroy the country to feed her vanity.”
Source please. I live in Ireland and the only time I’ve seen anything other than Irish beef is in specialty products, i.e at a Polish shop or section in a supermarket. Nobody where I live would eat beef that wasn’t Irish. That’s generally the case wherever I’ve been. They don’t eat foreign meat generally. Spain, Italy France etc. For good reason too.
I wonder why I keep coming back here? Addiction, a last flickering light of hope? I stopped identifying as Scottish at the election. Why not?. My daughter was born in Ireland and I have the granny for the passport. Its not really working out like I expected because everyone in the town I live in knows me as Scottish Davie.
It’s too hard to explain to normal people in normal countries that I’m not considered Scottish by the Junta in Edinburgh and the majority of the half-witted, fucking morons who inhabit the land that begat me. Not Scottish like someone who enters the country illegal, exhausts due process and refuses to leave anyway. Class.
Anyway. Best of luck to all continuing the struggle.
Got to go.I’ve had a long week exercising my white privilege. It’s been a pleasure to earn money to support my extended family in Nigeria. I’ve got a flight home today. Need to get something special special for my two year old, mix race daughter and my pain in the ass (not literally, lol) flamboyantly gay neighbour
wants me to bring a him a specialty liqueur which struggling find. Pain in the ass, but he’s the first real friend I made when I moved to Ireland 4 1/ years.
Tricky Nicky –
You are a piece of human excrement and history will record you as such. Of that, you can be sure.
@davie olga
So you live in Ireland and ignore the corruption in the Irish beef trade invoking crooks like Larry Goodman and the Irish farmers protests at the processing plants.
If you don’t notice that going on there is no point in me trying to educate you. Open your eyes.
@ sensibledave
Talking of calling folk out, you never responded to this post upthread.
link to wingsoverscotland.com
Dan
Ah, I think you missed the irony Dan. I thought you loved the EU and all of the federal Europe, no borders, single state stuff. My bad.
Effigy
Shocked is right, but he’s the only one who takes that position. Everybody else ignores the “greater” part of Great Britain” and instead “Rule Brittainia” plays in their heads.
That’s also sort of the problem with the House Jocks. They want to be part of something that’s greater than Scotland because they can’t see that the country is greater than the image that gets served up by the media all day, every day.
Independence people are not interested in glory or empire. They’d be happy with something nice, quiet and unassuming to call their own, like a copy of Estonia, on this side of the North Sea.
In a way that’s problematic too as it will never be enough for the House Jocks. They want to be in the premier league and being in the first division isn’t good enough. Centuries of brain-washing by the British Empire has forever warped their expectations.
They’re never going to listen to Nicola’s pleas to say Yes. She represents everything they resent about a future in the first or even second division.
This is just a fanciful explanation and simply a thought exercise. It shows that “Yes” will never be an option for some. Think football and you can see what I mean.
As I read all the bleating, whinging, grievance and all the thinly veiled anti-English stuff here, I have to remind myself that, when actually asked, the “people of Scotland” voted to stay in the U.K. No one else, just the “people of Scotland”.
At the same time, when I look at any polls that have taken place, I note, generally speaking, “the people of England” do not oppose Scotland leaving the U.K. (with an increasing proportion actually wanting it).
When a thread like this one starts, and the immediate reaction here is that a free trade deal, with a country like Australia, is a bad thing. …. I wonder just who folk on here actually want to trade with.
As I mentioned above, the general agreement above is that the Scottish Government and all its senior ministers are corrupt. The Scottish legal and judiciary is corrupt. The Scottish police are corrupt ie the country is a basket case (not my view).
Why would a free democratic country like Australia want a trade deal with such a country? Maybe it doesn’t? Maybe it wants a trade deal with England ad it has to deal with Scotland as a consequence?
Again, asking for a friend.
Your football metaphor works really well Stuart , to continue it can we agree the ” lad ” Salmond played a blinder though greatly hampered by really awful refereeing and dirty tackles by the opposing team .
To think they once played for the same side too
@ sensibledave
Well you thought wrong then. I recognise there are pluses and minus of being an EU member State.
But what I think isn’t the point. To suit your agenda you twisted the words of The President of the National Farmers Union for Scotland raising concerns for the industry he represents, with the way the UK as a whole, and Scotland as an entity with differing farming practices (status recognised by LFA subsidies), have been taken out of the EU single market without due consideration for all that entails for both the short and long term.
It makes sense to trade locally when required to reduce food transportation miles, and having regulatory alignment with EU standards would maintain our produce’s tradability with our nearest global market, which would also ensure it adhered to decent quality and welfare / production standards.
Stuart Mackay
Being like Estonia, a former soviet republic growing its way out of decades of communist oppression and economic decay, is a major step backwards. Why do you have no ambition for Scotland? Do you not think we can be successful? Tho of course Estonia is quite like Scotland st the moment as they admired in corruption, mind you their kick their corrupt politicians out and jail them, we seem to re elect them and then kneel in front of them because they once waved a flag.
But then I noticed you are a fan of Queen Nicola and the New SNP, their only ambition for Scotland is for it to be an open prison where the New SNP leadership cabal yield ultimate power and we are mere sheep who’s only function is to fund their lifestyles.
Dan
For Scottish beef farmers the EU is an irrelevance as they sell 70% of their product to England, hence the Union jacks on some packaging to keep packaging costs down, and around 6% to the EU.
The EU is however a major threat as the UK imports huge amounts of Irish beef that is cut price because if is heavily subsidised and many cases it isn’t even Irish at all.
The myth that the EU is a great thing for Scottish farming is just that, a myth,
Shocked says:
23 May, 2021 at 8:45 am
@davie olga
“So you live in Ireland and ignore the corruption in the Irish beef trade invoking crooks like Larry Goodman and the Irish farmers protests at the processing plants”
I know about the protests. I live in a county dependent on agriculture. The protests were centred price for farmers. Goodman is a charlatan of the highest order. No one here would eat his foreign meat. All exported.
Dan
…. your “appeal to authority” by suggesting I twisted the words of NFU man is just silly. I don’t know he is and I don’t know what he said.
Moving on, you accept that there were/are pluses and minuses for a country being in the EU. I’ve never heard a Remainer provide any balance before. Could you therefore tell me a few of the minuses that you perceive please.
Republicofscotland
I agree about AUOB about being clap-happy but that’s the reason it’s successful. It’s more along the lines of a St. Patrick’s Day parade or Gay Pride march. If it becomes more confrontational then that’s the day there’s more visible police presence, maybe with a couple of units of riot police sitting not so discretely on a side road and a few more dogs than usual and that’s the day that a lot of people decide that in future a march might be the start of trouble and decide not to go again.
You could still make it political and still keep it fun – a parade of carrots, or a cohort of women dressed as Suffragettes. Would be interesting to see how far you could push it before attracting criticism from Kirsty Bormann, Rhiannon Speer or the führer herself, but again you’d run the risk of making it not clap-happy and so undermine it.
More of the Imperial Masters guy with the megaphone and carrots dangling from lamp posts might be a better way of slowly turning up the heat.
@ Shocked at 9:31 am
You may have missed the point I made by saying “It makes sense to trade locally when required to reduce food transportation miles.“.
That relates to us consuming far more of our own home grown produce (I’ll add the seasonal aspect too) before we even consider importing similar stuff from further afield and different global trading blocs.
I was on a motorbike ride a couple of years back and in the middle of summer in Blairgowrie, a town surrounded by berry fields, the Coop was selling strawberries from fucking Morocco.
An interesting development
link to archive.is
In The Times
Lord advocate to stand down
Call for dual role to be split next time
Bjsalba
Now that would be a suitable job for Joanna Cherry – if will never happen of course!!!
Davie olga
The foreign beef is processed in Ireland instead of Irish beef meaning the Irish farmers get ripped off and the foreign beef is labelled Irish and sent to the UK.. We need to shut the border to this corruption.
If it’s tough in Ireland too bad, they brought it on themselves,
Maybe I did Dan, we should be encouraging home production and creating jobs instead of importing from abroad.
Shocked
You really are a lazy dimwit. Was you’re reply to what I said the next block of text to post from your checklist.
Perhaps you have a troll tele-prompter because you can’t be trusted to write a sentence all by yourself without getting it wrong.
But as I said Dan, staying in alignment with the rest of the UK is far more important than staying in alignment with the EU for Scottish farmers.
Stuart Mackay
Says the sturgeonite who’s only ambition for Scotland is to take us back 35 years. When party comes first and country second you are what happens, ambition free drones who can’t think for themselves.
Vote green…haha!
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Nice wee piece of BBC bias there on Marr, as the bold Andrew delivers Priti Patel a nice slow ball with which to put Sturgeon and Scotland back in their box.
The deportations will continue, because London is in-charge. Put that in your pipe and smoke it Sturgeon, was Patel’s message.
@ Sensibledave at 9:37 am
You responded to me after I’d linked to Martin Kennedy’s tweet. Check his bio.
I’ll link to his tweet again but this time through this Jim Fairlie tweet.
You may not know who they are but some of us do and know they have considerable experience and knowledge in aspects relating to Scottish farming.
Can you acknowledge that they might just have more relevant insight into the Scottish farming industry than yourself.
link to twitter.com
Re. pluses and minuses. Well I’ve already highlighted the needless transportation of produce over great distances when it could be sourced locally. I am also aware that the complete freedom of movement had aspects that are open to abuse when folk can just rock up and start getting state aid without having previously contributed.
Shocked says: at 9:49 am
“But as I said Dan, staying in alignment with the rest of the UK is far more important than staying in alignment with the EU for Scottish farmers.”
Even if it means dropping our standards?
Stuart MacKay says:
23 May, 2021 at 8:59 am
That’s also sort of the problem with the House Jocks. They want to be part of something that’s greater than Scotland because they can’t see that the country is greater than the image that gets served up by the media all day, every day.
Exactly this.
I remember a YouTube clip of some Spanish people held up in traffic because the Catalan farmers were protesting in their tractors, and the gist of the sneering derision was that the tractors were the Catalan’s military army.
Ask most Unionists and even undecided, and they just cannot visualise Scotland having a Scottish Navy well capable of defending Scottish Waters, a Scottish Air Force being able to afford cutting edge aircraft and maintaining a potent defence of the realm.
You say Scottish Navy, they see Scottish motor boat bought second hand.
You say Scottish Army, they see TA duffers running into battle without frontline tech.
You say Scottish Government, they see a Micky Mouse puppet show. (Ok they might be right on that one).
You say Scottish infrastructure, they see a worky pouring tar into a pothole. Their heads would explode at the thought Scotland might copy the Faroes with undersea tunnels.
They’re cynical if you cite Scotland’s historic Constitution because it’s centuries old, yet they pull out and misrepresent the Darien Scheme like a gun… (missing out the East India Company’s roll in it’s collapse of course).
You say Scottish Broadcasting, they see 1970’s Black and White TV with 2 channels.
You say Scottish Energy, they wonder which BritNat Old Boy was parachuted in to run it.
You say Scottish University, they think of a college.
You say Scottish Exports, they see subsidised trade which needs English ports and airports.
The list goes on and on, but the sense of inadequacy is pretty constant.
Can you imagine the massive resource Scotland would have if all these sad punctures were plugged, and everybody started to believe in their Nation and pull their weight? Imagine if all those BritNat Unionists who currently think Scotland’s roll in the Union is to sacrifice itself for the greater UK, put the same energy they use to malign Scotland into making the place thrive.
I was in China in 2007, the year before the Beijing Olympics, and you saw a backward, essentially a peasant nation suddenly opening up their country, building cutting edge motorways and reinventing their “normal”. And by the way, for all that was said in the West, I didn’t meet a single Chinese person who was cynical about their nation. They love China as the best nation in the world, and that’s how I want to feel about Scotland.
You had to watch. You could be driving along a road which would suddenly disappear because the roundabout it led to hadn’t been built yet. On another occasion, the 5 lane motorway was still unfinished, so all the traffic (what traffic?), had to jump into the wilderness and follow the tracks of the tipper trucks which were still building the motorway. (Yes, I know, horse track to 5 lane motorway, but that’s another story).
It’s strange to describe, but there were ‘villages’ which hadn’t been built. They people were there, but the buildings weren’t. There were ‘organic’ small communities of people supporting the project workers with hot food, water, and essentials, and dirty, and I mean coal miner dirty, mechanics keeping all the vehicles running. It put me in mind of the frontier towns which sprung up to serve the colonial charge to exploit “the colonies”.
At one point we needed a welder to fix one of our vehicles, and you were steered in the direction of a welder by people who knew where one was, and I remember thinking that’s exactly how and why we have occupational names like Baker, Butcher, Fletcher etc in our society…. It was for people trying to find them for what they did, not who they were.
China was brilliant, but a bit nuts to be honest, and a one-off situation, but the point is, if your people are enthusiastic, the energy and commitment, the innovation and improvisation it inspires is truly remarkable, and I firmly believe it’s been such a very looooong time since Scotland was truly enthusiastic about anything. Scotland, our nation, is dormant in ways it just doesn’t even realise.
Even in the most ardent Scottish Unionist, there is no uplifting enthusiasm for the Union, just a misguided Calvinist notion of worthy and dutiful self sacrifice. You ask them to articulate a positive, progressive case for the Union, and they just can’t do it. They are suddenly very ordinary salesmen, trying to sell you something colourless which you neither need nor want.
Scotland deserves so much better than this. Scotland is so much more capable of so much more. The sad thing is, the current SNP government is now as much of a stifling blanket over Scotland’s resurrection as the Union ever was. It is thoroughly depressing.
@dan
UK standards are higher than EU standards for a whole range of agri products. Many practices carried out on the continent are illegal in the UK.
In case you missed it.
The loyal and royal Kirk of Union has a new boss.
link to bbc.co.uk
Cosy.
Greetings folks! Anyone else on here used Wickr? Given recent events Stickergate in Kirkcaldy and threats to #WomenWontWheesht heretics like @millar_marion in , it occurred to me a secure method of communication might be useful?
I saw some discussion online yesterday on timelines discussing the above, particularly from someone advocating it as a safety net from being “cancelled”?
Good post Breeks a long time since I read anything inspirational about Scottish Independence.
You are spot on, we need dedication, sacrifice and belief in ourselves to make it work, but the malaise is a lot deeper than you attempt to illustrate. The populace have lost the plot, if they ever had it to begin with, we are a product of consumerism and have become increasingly easy to manipulate by those in power.
Also unlike the Chinese people whom you write of so eloquently, WE all have something to lose, perhaps things of little value, baubles, ideologies even, but I think we are too soft and malleable to rise to the challenge to which you allude?
Socrates MacSporran says:
The deportations will continue, because London is in-charge. Put that in your pipe and smoke it Sturgeon, was Patel’s message.
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Lets say that wasn’t the case and she/her was in charge of immigration what would she do?
The message seems to be that she wouldn’t have any immigration policy and anyone who landed in Scotland would be able to stay.
Does this help or hinder the independence vote?
Difficult to know what people in Scotland feel about free movement of people from anywhere in the world being that immigration is a taboo subject and has been since Labour’s PC Brigade branded anyone expressing ‘unacceptable’ views on immigration as racists.
Breeks @ 10.35 .
* Hat tip * compadre .
Well done Josh Taylor on becoming Scotland’s first undisputed world boxing champion winning four world championship belts. Neither Sky Sports or BT Sports covered your history making fight, now that you’ve won your suddenly a British champion.
50% of Scots are basically gullible and thick. 40% simply don’t care about what is happening around them. 10% are extremely concerned about where the country is heading and who is supposedly leading them there.
The most worrying aspect about it all is that the latter percentage is decreasing by the day.
The rich get richer and the poor get poorer-it is the way of the world and nothing will change this.
@Ruby
The obvious answer is that people from other parts of the world, especially if they have arrived and stayed by unconventional means, if given a place in the democratic process will nearly always vote for the least nationalist parties.
As you probably know that’s why its happening.
The difficult part is telling the hysterical bleeding hearts or the middle class university educated White Knights for the Oppressed. They are too busy bathing in their own moral righteousness to see this for what it is.
The Scots, as well as many others including the English, are being disenfranchised from their homelands by international hyper wealthy criminals working through NGO’s, charities and utterly immoral politicians.
But like the trans rights issue there’s no telling them til its too late. They are too good and righteous and certainly won’t want to reinforce any of those evil right wing talking points.
They’d rather have their heads up their arse while their own people (always the poorer ones) continue to drown in one globalist funded and guided crises after another.
This is why the leadership of the current Scottish Independence movement has failed and will continue to fail. They have become largely separated from ordinary working people and more represent the ideology and concerns of the more sheltered middle class.
Which is why talking about ANY issue that affects working Scots is taboo including immigration and the LGBT shite that virtually no working Scot gives a single fuck about.
If anyone who has a couple of properties or maybe an couple of extra rooms takes offense at this then why don’t you do your bit and put up some needy 3rd world family? No – its much better if they are housed in places that our own people need and get benefits that our own people can’t get, while helped into jobs our own people can’t find while you talk with your clueless chums about the need for equality and harmony.
“According to the Times, James Wolffe QC and the solicitor general, Alison Di Rolla QC, are to leave office in a matter of days.
Wolffe will surely know where the bodies are buried, it will be interesting to see if he’s bumped up to a High court judge, or if he’ll do a Dominic Cummings and threaten to spill the beans.
J.o.e @ 11.29 .
Agreed . I made a comment to that effect a while back here .
The policy of placing large numbers of – by most standards , poor immigrants amongst native equivalents often struggling to keep their heads above economic waters is fraught with dangers and rarely manifests in harmonious co-existence : as you infer …..is it meant to , or , rather , the opposite ?
And , yes , good suggestion ie will those who advocate these policies step-up and make any kind of sacrifice to honour their – alleged – commitment ? Na , thought not .
Anyone with basic common decency feels sympathy for people driven from their homes and countries either by sheer economic necessity or the ravages of war , and refuge should be offered to genuine cases : unrestricted access for all is a disaster in the making and , again as you say , will fall on the heads of those already in need of support and most vulnerable to exploitation .
@Republicofscotland – there’s not many times I agree with you but, on this occassion, I’m with you.
It makes me wonder whether this has been a move made by the legal profession themselves; to distance themselves from what they see as a needlessly incestuous entanglement.
In this inceasingly crappy wee country, I expect him to retire early with an OBE.
The promotion of Wolfe that of a High Court judge will display without any doubt how rotten and corrupt the justice system is in Scotland.
But Scotland has more than a rotten Judiciary. Institutional corruption and bias runs criminally through the police, senior civil servants and the government.
People really do need to take a shake to themselves and the corruption that surrounds them. Promoting the likes the Lord Advocate James Wolfe to a High Court judge or any similar position shows that after the huge concerns about the failed Salmond prosecutions.
And if they don’t promote him, then as someone previously said, he could do a Dominic Cummings and expose the First Minister.
Mind you, there are anecdotal reports of personal scandal surrounding Wolfe and aside of his partisan head of the COPFS. Maybe we shall find out.
@Robert Hughes
One thing that makes me almost violent is watching some working person, or someone living on benefits, who has been let down by the education system and forgotten by their nation struggling to properly express their concerns and their troubles in the face of ‘educated’ liberal scum who freely utilise false, often media derived, talking points and shame tactics to shut them down.
The types of people who are most affected by the ‘liberal’ outlook are the ones least equipped to argue their corner and are treated like thick, unthinking bigots with no basis for their concerns
It fucking enrages me.
Additionally to what I just wrote – the worst part is those same characters will also pretend to be a champion of those same poorer people. It would make you puke.
@Willie
I’ve long been of the opinion that Kompromat is in plentiful supply where the heads of certain institutions in Scotland are concerned, and those who wield real power, from outwith Scotland, know exactly whose strings to pull to achieve their desired results.
J.o.e @ 12.12 + 12.16 . 100% . That inarticulate rage and confusion at what’s being done around them , with zero consultation/consideration of THEIR needs is the perfect breeding-ground for fascist or crypto-fascist ideologies
James che is a fanny. Scottish speak for a troll. Awe that pish for not spelling right.
akenaton says:
23 May, 2021 at 10:51 am
…, but I think we are too soft and malleable to rise to the challenge to which you allude.
I really don’t know. That’s not a simple question to answer.
That Chinese welder we found is forever etched in mind because he didn’t have any goggles or mask for doing his welding. He was just young, in his 20’s, but eyes must have been totally wrecked by the arc. I’ve never wished so hard to have had a pair of welding goggles in my pocket just to give the fella.
Are we ‘softer’ because we’re more dependent on Health and Safety Regs and safety equipment? In some ways maybe we are, but you’re no good to anybody as a blind welder.
I think there’s a notion we’re soft because there’s nothing to push us, no challenge to inspire us nor adversity to test us. Scotland is a nation with a great engine, but these days, it’s merely running on idle.
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Breeks at 10.35 23/5/2021.
Thank you for that first rate essay.
Cheered me right up, and others too I’ll wager.
I paraphrase, but you mention Scotland having the positive vision it needs to become independent. Two words came to mind. The painter and author needed for that vision to be made real…
Alex Salmond
I know this to be the answer because the full MIGHT and focus of the British Empire were focused upon the destruction of this one human being.
Destroy the man’s reputation and you kill off his voice.
Indeed the corrupt ugly dark souled Linda Evans type may think they lost a battle by failing in their fake rape allegations to have an innocent man jailed for life. But as we see the triumphant Sturgeon The Betrayer sack David Wolffe and replace him with one of her Woke puppets (one that doesn’t drop the ball like calamity Wolffe), they haven’t quite extinguished the flame.
I don’t think Alex Salmond is that easily erased from history.
Yes they have tried at great cost to the taxpayer to destroy Alex Salmond’s reputation and God knows what cost to the man himself.
Breeks you are onto something. I have yet to hear Alex Salmond go negative. That chimes with everything you posted at 10.35 this morning.
Bonnie Dundee ain’t finished yet. I reckon when, eventually the nation looks up from it’s Covid woes and efforts to keep the job, the roof over their heads and the weans fed, I reckon we are in for one helluva repeat of exactly what happened in the days, weeks and months following IndyRef1 18-9-2014.
Back then when Scotland realised it had been done up like a kipper, masses, BiG masses of people joined the SNP.
There is nothing more thrawn than a pissed-off Scot who finds a liar has fucked him or her over.
So WHEN eventually Nicola The Betrayer is found out, there will be a backlash bigger than many a tsunami.
Breeks I KNOW this will happen. I KNOW Scotland will become a decent, Independent nation. I just hope the older ones of us here are still about to see it.
Thanks for the cheer-up Breeks. You are helping keep the Wings torch lit.
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P.S. Thanks to whoever it was on this thread who termed the phrase: “Nicola The Betrayer”
Why?
Well, if you Google the phrase Nicola The Betrayer those amazing wee Google bots take you to a certain website with an article that shall end up with the highest ever viewing figures on that website. The reason is Nicola The Betrayer will become a thing: a phrase in BTL discourse, the words on articles, the paint on banners.
So in the near future when the penny eventually drops that Nicola squandered FIVE opportunities for IndyRef2 and has squandered the SIXTH mandate given to her earlier this month, the TIDE WILL TURN.
Nicola’s coat is already on a shoogly peg. It took the MIGHT of the State Broadcaster and State media to suborn the legitimate vote by enforcing a media blackout on the Alba Party.
With social media rising and state media delclining then that dam ain’t holding forever.
Aye, today’s been good. A stoater of a post from Breeks and a cracker of an internet signpost from whoever coined the phrase: Nicola The Betrayer.
Wings ain’t dead yet. Just sleeping whilst the skipper takes a very, very well earned break.
Breeks says:
23 May, 2021 at 10:35 am
You say Scottish Navy, they see Scottish motor boat bought second hand.
You say Scottish Army, they see TA duffers running into battle without frontline tech.
I did a fair bit of thinking about a defence force in 2014 and the run-up, and decided that that would suffice; why would we need an offensive force? While they were at it, they could provide helicopters and pilots for air/sea/mountain rescue and do a lot of the coastguard stuff, too.
They love China as the best nation in the world, and that’s how I want to feel about Scotland.
Agreed; it’s about contentment with your situation rather than being competitive about Best Nation, I think.
…and I firmly believe it’s been such a very looooong time since Scotland was truly enthusiastic about anything…
1978, I think…!
Captain Yossarian.
Wolffe’s wife is a High Court judge, and she herself is no stranger to controversy, as you’ll see here, as was his predecessor Frank Mullholland, who was also bumped up to a High Court judge.
link to twitter.com
Whoever is Wolffe’s successor, mustn’t be allowed to sit on Sturgeon the Betrayers cabinet, the judiciary and the COPFS should be separate from daily workings of the Scottish governments cabinet, if not, as has happened already lead to collusion.
Breeks
I had took notice of this yesterday, and started researching it,
Some of those titled names have followed through from the treaty of the union signitures when you read whom has held what positions over the years.
It is the secrets of deeper control of Scotland running what seems to be hollyrude.
Even offered the keys.
We kid ourselves that hollyrude will ever separate from the narrative of Westminster. Into independence,
I am still of the opinion that we have a right to chose our government.
I am pretty sure it does not say, the sovereign people of Scotland only can pick one from the deck of cards that England government holds out in front of us.
That is restricted selection,
Not the choice to the right of self determination and never would provide independence to the Scottish people, it’s a stamp all over British flag cover up from hollyrude and the general Assembly.
Seeing it for what it is it makes you realise this is never going to happen through a devolved parliament,
We can pretend that we reconvened our original parliament,
But if it was true, why are England’s Titled running it. Assembly and parliament under the elite.
Sell us a Scottish country and we will sell you a Scottish Parliament that is fake.
Andy Ellis,
I’m not sure if Wickr is still a viable option. The free tier is only available for up to 10 users, wickr.com/product-tiers/
I think they originally envisaged themselves as a mass communications platform but pivoted to secure enterprise/military communications.
There’s not much apparent activity on the pages that host their public repositories github.com/WickrInc but given the content on their web site I’d say that all the new stuff is behind built behind closed doors.
Here are the search results from a site where I have faith in the veracity of the comments, link to hn.algolia.com. Most of the submitted articles are from a while ago (5-7 years) and not much has happened since which supports the idea that if they are still viable then it’s big business and the military they are after.
This is an excellent article and it shows what a dark and dangerous road Scotland is taking under the tenure of Sturgeon the Betrayer.
link to denisefindlay.org
@Republicofscotland – I’m shocked by that. Speechless that that could happen here. Not only the mallicious prosecution, but the fact that the case was being heard by the wife of one of those accused. When you don’t read stuff like this in the press, then you know the Scottish press has been got-at.
Someone above…
The ‘Great’ prefix is merely a shortening of Greater (Britain), the name given by the Romans to the largest ‘British ‘ island. (Inc. Eire)
@Republicofscotland – one last thing; I read that 70% of Scottish lawyers want the Lord Advocate removed from Government. He is seen even by them as a fixer. John Swinney was able to redact documents with impunity when the Lord Advocate was around. Best remove him for the good of the public.
So the UK received no points in the Eurovision Song Contest, I suppose after the debacle that was Brexit the UK is somewhat despised within the EU.
Even more astonishing is the inclusion of the murderous occupying, oppressive, apartheid, military regime known as Israel in the tournament, its not European let alone a legitimate country.
Republicofscotland says:
23 May, 2021 at 1:57 pm
Quote:- “Even more astonishing is the inclusion of the murderous occupying, oppressive, apartheid, military regime known as Israel in the tournament, its not European let alone a legitimate country.”
Now then, take a couple of steps back and reconsider your love of the EU…
” one last thing; I read that 70% of Scottish lawyers want the Lord Advocate removed from Government.”
Captain Yossarian.
This is from my 1.32pm link.
“In 2005 the UK parliament passed the Constitutional Reform Act which ensures separation of powers in the UK. But Scotland was not included and Scotland still lacks the separation as the head of the judiciary – the Lord Advocate – sits in cabinet and is part of the executive. This gives rise to the possibility of the executive using the law to for its’ own political benefit, such as hiding executive wrong doing or to the possibility of the executive carrying out political prosecutions.”
Reading Breeks post made me think about something I was going to post a while back.
So I’m a bit of a fan of Scandinoir for reasons not always connected to plotlines and dramatic tension. I find Scandinavians somewhat similar to us as people but then having met Danes, Norwegians, Swedes and Finns in my travels, it’s been interesting to see many of them make the comparison too. Watching the Icelandic thriller Trapped recently, I was amazed to discover one of the villages where it’s set is on the North coast of Iceland. This somewhat inhospitable setting, certainly as we would understand it, currently has a population of 1,200 people and in the 1950s had 3000 inhabitants. Tromsø in northern Norway has 65,000 inhabitants and rather than losing population is a fast-growing town. If you look at arctic Russia, you have even larger populations in Murmansk and Norilsk, and South of the arctic circle but cold AF we find Yakutsk (built on permafrost). These three ‘baltic’ cities have hundreds of thousands of inhabitants.
The point is northerly compass points do not have to signify both desolation and lack of population. People talk about Scotland’s ‘central belt’ as if it’s a fact of our natural history…as if Scots were naturally drawn to two large cities barely 50 miles apart like nesting birds.
If you look at puir auld Scotland’s northern counties you see barely 100,000 people in the whole of Caithness, Sutherland, and Ross and Cromarty. Surely in an independent Scotland, this would change dramatically within twenty or thirty years. The energy waiting to burst out come independence would be unstoppable.
This fucking awful union has created our desolation and sells it back to us on the BBC as wilderness, as a getting away from it all spiritual adventure, as natural obstacle courses (bag that Munro now!), as places where fucking bears, wolves, lynxes (and probably the fucking Dodo next) need re-introduction.
The whole of Scotland should flourish after independence and it doesn’t need billionaires foisting casinos on small northern communities like we’re the next fucking Macau!
I feel better after that…
Republicofscotland – and David Davis said exactly that when stood-up in the HoC. I wonder though…our legal profession was always one of the best in the world and students have always come here to study law. There are many lawyers around who want these roles separated, as they already do in the rest of the UK.
Shocked says:
23 May, 2021 at 7:38 am
Quite:-
“Misses the point that the biggest threat to Scottish farming are Irish imports.
We import more beef from Ireland than the entire Scottish beef production.
A lot of beef that comes from Ireland isn’t even Irish, it’s polish or Romanian raised in substandard conditions.
Queen Nicola would quite happily destroy the country to feed her vanity.”
See, that’s the problem about FACTS on here.
They have fit the narrative.
Take AS.
An innocent man who has been severely wronged by the SNP establishment. He is not alone.
The fact that he is also TOXIC to the majority of the Scottish people was a FACT that was ignored by many on here.
And where did it get us?
Absolutely Nowhere.
PhilM says:
23 May, 2021 at 2:11 pm
Quote:-“Reading Breeks post made me think about something I was going to post a while back.
So I’m a bit of a fan of Scandinoir for reasons not always connected to plotlines and dramatic tension. I find Scandinavians somewhat similar to us as people but then having met Danes, Norwegians, Swedes and Finns in my travels, it’s been interesting to see many of them make the comparison too. Watching the Icelandic thriller Trapped recently, I was amazed to discover one of the villages where it’s set is on the North coast of Iceland. This somewhat inhospitable setting, certainly as we would understand it, currently has a population of 1,200 people and in the 1950s had 3000 inhabitants. Tromsø in northern Norway has 65,000 inhabitants and rather than losing population is a fast-growing town. If you look at arctic Russia, you have even larger populations in Murmansk and Norilsk, and South of the arctic circle but cold AF we find Yakutsk (built on permafrost). These three ‘baltic’ cities have hundreds of thousands of inhabitants.
The point is northerly compass points do not have to signify both desolation and lack of population. People talk about Scotland’s ‘central belt’ as if it’s a fact of our natural history…as if Scots were naturally drawn to two large cities barely 50 miles apart like nesting birds.
If you look at puir auld Scotland’s northern counties you see barely 100,000 people in the whole of Caithness, Sutherland, and Ross and Cromarty. Surely in an independent Scotland, this would change dramatically within twenty or thirty years. The energy waiting to burst out come independence would be unstoppable.
This fucking awful union has created our desolation and sells it back to us on the BBC as wilderness, as a getting away from it all spiritual adventure, as natural obstacle courses (bag that Munro now!), as places where fucking bears, wolves, lynxes (and probably the fucking Dodo next) need re-introduction.
The whole of Scotland should flourish after independence and it doesn’t need billionaires foisting casinos on small northern communities like we’re the next fucking Macau!
I feel better after that…”
What are the suicide rates in these Northern Nirvanas BTW?
See, some of us have actually BEEN to these places and the reality is somewhat different to your rose tinted outlook.
There is a reason the Norwegians burn lights “everywhere” 24/7 during the long black winters…
Hugh jarse.
Propaganda was used in roman times just as it is today,
The Romans’ did not include Scotland, they built not one, but two great big walls separating “The Britain” you speak about.
Tacitus claimed lots of things as a reporter, but wether any of them were true has yet to be proved with regards to most of Scotland,
The spin he put on Calgacus speech is a good example. Supposedly he was sitting beside him in (the enemy’s ) camp and heard every word he said. As the Scottish clans and tribes did not have microphones in those days,
In reality if he was that close he would have been a hostage or prisoner to the calidonians in no time.
And the great battle of Mons Graupius that was supposed to have subdued all of Scotland remains as elusive as stardust.
Tacitus was biased to an extreme as he was the son in law of Agricola, the man whom was supposed to have conquer Britain as a whole country,
But none of the Romans even drew a decent map of how the land of Scotland was attached to England,
They had flurries of attacks ,yes. They had some small forts that were not permanent in Scotland, yes,
But no evidence of permanence or ever ruling Scotland as part of Britain like they did England,
I love history, and actually do metal detecting, I have found evidence from Pictish to present day finds in coins and tools, that sit in the museum but in my area of Scotland, NOT one roman coin or tool, brooch or bead,
Further down Scotland and closer you get to the walls there is evidence of temporary forts and scurries into Scotland but not here. Every bit of history points to them never subduing the all the Scots. Your Britain was halved by the Romans themselves. Scotland remained separate in their minds.
wee monkey says:
23 May, 2021 at 2:18 pm
The fact that he is also TOXIC to the majority of the Scottish people was a FACT that was ignored by many on here…
Where lies the bigger danger to us Wee monkey? Our enemies who gratuitously and falsely smear and malign Alex Salmond to discredit him, or those of us who accept that orchestrated conspiracy as fact, and concede defeat to the enemy’s disinformation despite all the time knowing it’s untrue?
I’ll stand by Alex Salmond the way Alex Salmond has always stood by Scotland, come rain, hail or shine.
If you’re worried about toxicity, my advice would be to stop swallowing it.
Shocked.
Yes I do say without doubt that many people in England see themselves superior to
other nations.
One of those nations is the one I belong to, Scotland.
The English have been brought up with stories of defeating the French, the Germans and
countries with lesser armies right across the globe.
Try explaining to most Englishmen that Britain was being well beaten by Germany and Japan in the 1940’s. If Russia hadn’t stated in the war even with 26 million dead the German Western Front
soldiers would have been marching through London.
If America had stayed out or was unwilling for Britain to take on massive debts for their resources
the war would have ended years later.
Sure Brits were brave and enduring and credit for that but without other nations they were beaten.
The old soldiers who say they won find themselves with pensions a fraction of those in Germany.
They see free travel and TV licences being removed from them.
The disabled from active service see themselves in homes ran by charities like Erskine.
It was the English Tory attitude to other nations that deliver Nil Point.
Incidentally, over my years my family has had well loved African American, Indian and Arab members as well as Irish and Swiss/German.
Never have stood by and accepted racism or bigotry.
I would never accept that I’m not equal with anyone
I will attack a near nation who use stop and search for Blacks in the main
who have a National Front Party a Brexit Party a heralded Prime Minister who
insults by calling out ethnic minorities as having watermelon smiles or who
look like letterboxes and Scots as a verminous race.
Shocked says:
23 May, 2021 at 10:39 am
@dan
UK standards are higher than EU standards for a whole range of agri products. Many practices carried out on the continent are illegal in the UK.
Name them.
An are you talking about UK standards now, or after deregulation?
Politicians are our tools. Some of them may even pass as some sort of leader for a time.
Im not a fan of cross dressers but if one was making all the points i wanted made and was building a reputation for ability and integrity id support them politically.
Also if a beautiful Scottish woman who has all the the visual and personality characteristics that could be tied to best of the Scottish people was in the competition but basically didn’t offer much past the status quo id not consider her.
The personal bullshit people bring to their political decisions is childish beyond belief and it makes them very open to manipulation.
Cast an eye to the politics in the US right now and you see a bunch of eye candy women saying exactly the kind of things the dumb majority of the MAGA crowd want to hear. All of them pro Israel by sheer cohencidence, as is the heritage of 80% of Bidens top picks. Its so obvious its almost comedy.
Get a middle aged bloke asking the right questions and pointing out unpleasant facts however and even if anything he says does get through the MSM net he simply won’t appeal to the base animal level thinking of the mob.
America always does scrape the bottom of the barrel for class but even here politics is not much more than a fucking punch and judy show with discourse kept within the limits that an uninformed, uninspired and intellectually lazy public can handle.
Right now places like WOS and anywhere else that expands minds and challenges official narratives (UK Column also) is more important than the vast, vast majority of politicians.
Republicofscotland says on 23 May, 2021 at 11:39 am
““According to the Times, James Wolffe QC and the solicitor general, Alison Di Rolla QC, are to leave office in a matter of days.
Wolffe will surely know where the bodies are buried, it will be interesting to see if he’s bumped up to a High court judge, or if he’ll do a Dominic Cummings and threaten to spill the beans.”
I think it’s probably more a case of I’m a Legal-Eagle Get Me Out of Here. No longer wishing to be associated with the rancid corruption that is Sturgeons Nasty Party.
Breeks , I’ll stand with both you and Alex Salmond.
J.O.E . you are dead right politicians are indeed tools.
Stuart MacKay says on 23 May, 2021 at 9:41 am: Republicofscotland
“I agree about AUOB about being clap-happy but that’s the reason it’s successful. It’s more along the lines of a St. Patrick’s Day parade or Gay Pride march. If it becomes more confrontational then that’s the day…..a lot of people decide that in future a march might be the start of trouble and decide not to go again.”
“You could still make it political and still keep it fun – a parade of carrots, or a cohort of women dressed as Suffragettes.”
LOVE IT! How about combining both suggestions. An AUOB parade led by a couple of rows of real women dressed as Suffragettes carrying bamboo fishing canes dangling carrots ahead of them? Carrying them in much the same way parade flag-carriers hold their flagpoles.
That would make a very strong & funny point. Not everyone would get it but that’s a good thing, it will force some to ask “what’s that all about?” Giving others ample opportunity to explain exactly what Sturgeon & Co are doing, ie: driving their own hidden agendas at the expense of independence.
That last point is of extreme importance because i’m becoming even more concerned with each passing day that all this nonsense is going to put the frighteners up the horses regarding indy. Already see folk saying if this is what an indy Scotland is going to be like then no thanks. Sturgeon & Co must be held responsible.
@Stuart MacKay 1.32pm
I get where you’re coming from, but I *think* Wickr seems to get pretty good reviews in terms of security and performance in recent reviews I’ve read. I’m not sure it’s that much of an issue that it’s less popular or well known as a platform than (say) Signal or Telegram if it’s being used as a “default” alternative for a defined group of people?
The Nord VPN site seemed to rate it quite highly:
link to nordvpn.com
Beautiful oscarboy.
Obviously you were not born any where near Argyll or the time era I was, or you would have a good comprehension of reality and facts,
Maybe you’re not country born, or maybe your not a highlander, or maybe you have an English propaganda vision of remote parts of Scotland, or maybe you’re not even Scottish,
Either way you obviously have no idea about all of Scotland.
I have asked this a few times.
I wil ask you it, if you’re aware of the different old languages of true Scots not being just Gaelic What does the old Scottish word “Tint” mean ?
I do not think you are even in Scotland, you seem to have very little perception of the old ways of life that don’t come via MSM.
Stoker says: “I think it’s probably more a case of I’m a Legal-Eagle Get Me Out of Here. No longer wishing to be associated with the rancid corruption that is Sturgeons Nasty Party.”
Couldn’t agree more. All lawyers should just get back to what they are good at, which is public protection. Leave all the amateur stuff behind.
Bute House Porn vid (1 min)
link to youtube.com
There’s been a tweet…
Yet another episode in the Destiny of Spear series…
Twitter account in lockdown (as per usual) after Hate Speech gaff. No doubt the five O are on their way to have stern words…
link to twitter.com
“I think it’s probably more a case of I’m a Legal-Eagle Get Me Out of Here. No longer wishing to be associated with the rancid corruption that is Sturgeons Nasty Party.”
Stoker @3.3pm.
Its a bit late for that I think, Wolffe has already damaged his credibility within the legal circles, with regards to the Sturgeon debacle, and his legal council on producing evidence required by the committee.