Wings Over Scotland

Great , things have felt just like this for the past few days – I seriously think we are , finally, on the way ‘home’. Well illustrated, Chris.

Glasgow school of art devastated by second fire…..perhaps this time the culpable will not get away with it.

If only it was the Treaty of Union on fire, and the Glasgow School of Art had more buckets of sand.

Sands have shifted indeed. A good week until last night. Now, major fire again in important cultural building on the SNP’s watch. The unionists will run and run with the political symbolism. Whau’s like us here’s tae us!

It is clear that the current Westminster administration is wholly dysfunctional. On each and every parameter, they are failing, and as we all know the ONLY reason they are in power, is due the fact that Jeremy Corbyn is wholly unelectable.

Normally, Westminster administrations use diplomacy when handling Scotland, yet due to the gross ineptitude of people such as David Mundell, who let us not forget was only made Viceroy of Scotland because he was the only Scot available, they are behaving with complete disregard to Scotland.

The SNP need to no longer keep suggesting discussion and ‘talks’ with these people, instead it should be a policy of disrupt at every level for them. Their is no way to hold meaningful discussions with odious fools like Mundell, it is simply pointless. Instead, The SNP and Scotgov need to be smart and manipulate events to show to the Scottish public just how craven and out of control the Westminster executive have become.

They must no longer ‘hope’ the media provide coverage of matters, because as we have seen the media was happy to completely black-out the Westminstef power grab, until the walk out happened.

These are the final days of the union. The time really is running out for London rule over Scotland. If there is an election, the SNP manifesto needs to be a mandate for independence or at the very least taking full powers into the Scottish parliament including removal of Westminster control, and the SNP MUST be ready at all times for such an opportunity. If not, then we must be ready for it is surely time to call a referendum, so it is held before March 2019.

It is clear, that Scots will rally around those who stand up for Scotland. It is an important lesson for all the SNP ‘wets’ who seem to have held sway for far too long. This is a fight on every level. The time for being nice is over. Time for independence.

Looks very much like the Art School is run by a unionist dominated administration. Trustees etc unionist placements. Some reports. Let those who throw the first stanes had better watch. It might rebound on them. Seen as hypocrites, Hope all is not lost but it looks pretty bad this time. Even worse.

Chris 🙂

Looks to me like those scraps of paper will soon jam up the trickle towards the butcher’s apron end of the union.

Are we about to see Hamish’s paw swipe it all to smitherines? 🙂

Fitba world cup
Surge in SNP membership
Broon intervention
Glasgow School of Art fire

This is uncanny – it’s like 2014 all over again.

If Germany win the world cup again that’s it.

Call off the referendum. 🙁

How are the Scottish Government, Scottish Parliament and Scottish People supposed to trust an English tory uk government if tory mps do not trust Mrs May.

Incompetence, narrow minded Enlglish nationalism, division and being completely untrustworthy will bring down this vile uk government soon.

Luigi , do we not have to wait until the octopus speaks???

Ottomanboi, absolutely agree someone is responsible for this and should be held to account. Definitely NOT allowed to be brushed under a convenient rug.

Incidentally there is some arse expressing an opinion on Ms Sturgeon’s first thoughts on the fire. Anyone capable of posting on the Independent – go get the eejit.

This is seriously funny.Well if funny can be serious.
I feel sorry for the decent journalists who work for these newspapers though.
I met a few in my time as a trade union lay official and they want to do decent reporting but Yoon editors and owners redo their work. Or worse reject it and tell them to spin it.

My last post disappeared.

Glasgow School of Art according to Private Eye, declined to install sprinklers and fireproof material, but focused on the replacement of artefacts.

Cultural vandalism.

Sand + Tory arrogance equals quicksand. They will sink.

The sands of time are running out for the union. Spot on as usual Chris. Unfortunately my sense of humour has been crushed by the news from Glasgow about the School of Art.

It looks like it could be the absolute end of the Mac. Seriously moved to tears again.

Mrs X and I were just discussing how convenient the timing of this is for the british establishment – knocking the political boorach off the headlines JUST WHEN THEY NEED IT MOST.

Then I hear Mundell jumping in right away to offer “the broad shoulders” of the UK government to “do whatever’s needed” and my conspiracy theory radar goes off the scale.

You think the british establishment isn’t capable of something like this? I’d say think again. They know the Mac is close to the heart of Scotland. They know that another fire there would be headlines for days and even penetrate the world of Scottish politics, even knocking this REAL constitutional crisis that is the EU Withdrawal Bill right off the table.

Apparently Mundell was just visiting recently, not that I’m suggesting that has a bearing other than the GSoA may have been in his mind.

How, I ask myself could this have happened? Where was the site security? If the fire suppression system wasn’t yet operating why was there not a firewatch security team especially if the were a lot of flammable materials around, and judging from the speed and ferocity of the fire there must have been a lot.

So many questions.

It will be interesting to see how much coverage the Westminster crisis get over the weekend and in the Sunday papers. I suspect not very much now. How convenient.

I hope Ottomanboiisn’t suggesting that with the recent political events the firing of Glasgow School of Art could be Scotland’s Reichstag moment?

That’s a joke BTW

🙂

Like Bob Mack, my last post disappeared too!

I was saying that I hopped that with this week’s political shenanigans from the Unionists, that the firing of Glasgow School of Art is not Scotland’s Reichstag moment!

I also added that it was a joke

:-))

The old McIntosh Buikding is hardly used by students. It is kept as a monument for pre arranged guided tours, publicity etc. More administration purposes. There are only a few painting studios at the top. The new building across the road is predominately used for student activities. There are separate building elsewhere. The photography department is in a totally separate building. Adjacent. These students hardly ever use the main (Mack) buildings at all. There do have access.

Graduation ceremony is in the Glasgow uni facilities. Halls. Joint degree engineer and design students use Glasgow uni engineering depts. Design sector at GSA.

Brilliant symbolism Chris.

And when there is no sand left for the self-deluding unionists to stick their head in …

Patience is a virtue.

Chris, my only criticism would be that there is too much sand in the top of the egg-timer.

@X_Sticks: good post. Someone once said “Perfect paranoia is perfect awareness” and I would put nothing past the Tories.

I think, “How could this possibly happen again?” is an excellent question for the management of GSA. Over to you, Muriel.

surely the fire expert on baby cots could be brought in and give a resume why it happened. Has he been rehired?

Was it the wood? smokers? electrical fault? malicious? or as Fred earlier mentioned no one– it was a fire. 10/10 for observation right said fred.

The sands of time are running down for many today.

The trustees of the art school should be sued. It’s a responsibility, not a perk or a cache.

Are those two wee nyaffs mundell and leonard being buried under all that sand.

2 major fires in westvend of Glasgow within months, possibility or arsonist at work.

The restoration is not even complete. Not finished. No students, admin in it. It was relatively empty.
Pics posted on the internet.

Could be insurance job.

If this is the end for Glasgow School of Art,and it might be, my distress is boundless. The four years I spent their were the four best years of my life, learning to draw and paint a bit and design stuff, to look in awe at the abilities evident even then of John Byrne and big Chuck Mitchell (RIP)cousin of Billy McNeil and learning that lassie’s bodies aren’t just for life drawing. I am in tears.

Fred: “Nobody has the faintest idea what caused the fire.”

Very insightful. Read my report: link to wp.me

The Britnat Tories are as we know wilfully damaging Scotland economically and democratically. Why would they stop at that?

You don’t suppose that a second fire in four years at the prestigious School of Art is the Britnats doing a bit of Baedeker raiding?

@Fred says: 16 June, 2018 at 7:30 am:

“Who said anybody was culpable, it’s a fire for Christsake!”

Aye! Fred, so it is – but then so is this one but not for the sake of Christ though!:-

link to youtube.com

There are some serious nutters on here trying to conflate the fire at Glasgow School of Art with the SNP, the Tories, independence and unionism.

Get a life!

Great toon, Chris, and good observation, Luigi, about the turd, hiding in the sand.

I find it incredible that folk aren’t more angry about the fire. Oh, no one is to blame, but we have yoons blaming SNP for the weather when ferries can’t run.

Unless it was spontaneous combustion, it’s negligence or arson. Try reading Grouse Beater, who had it nailed in 2016.

I also agree with x sticks, 48 hours after an incredible lift to the independence movement, picking up interest and momentum, this happens.

If you think the deep state is not capable of this, you are simply not paying attention. They are destroying any semblance of democracy, or a functioning economy, in full view of the public.

‘The union seems secure and not at all built on sand’ writes BBC Scotland Political Editor Sahara Smith.

@Footsoldier

Everything that happens in Scotland or is about Scotland or it involves a Scottish person is seen through the binary politics of Patriot or Yoon,

everything.

Arson is unfortunately, about the easiest crime to get away with. No one will ever know – an accident or just kids messing about.

It’s been a good week for nationalists – now this – the destruction of something beautiful, almost restored – it’s a sickener.

Destruction of cultural artefacts is a recognised psychological weapon – we saw it with the Taliban blowing up buddhist statues – we saw it with ISIS in Palmyra – we saw it with the Americans pulling down statues before their battle was even finished.

Our enemy take their signs and symbols very seriously – e.g. the recent royal wedding, then the trooping of the colour – it’s not done for their benefit, but for ours – to remind us to know our place. When it doesn’t go to plan they don’t like it – Lord Guthrie (a sellout Scot, flat in Mayfair, Harrow educated) fell off his horse – very symbolic – but it was barely mentioned.

Our enemy is well-capable of “psychological operations” – and burning a building would be nothing to them. But of course to even mention this makes us look like “paranoid conspiracy nutters” – not a good look.

Fires in Glasgow are quite common – housing developments nearing completion (- you bought your “security” from the wrong gangster clan) – old warehouses or pubs going up, usually insurance jobs.

There’s an old saying –

“once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action”

– to which I would add a corollary –

“if you wait for the third time, you’re an idiot”

@Archbishop of Dork

bit of a sand theme today,

bit of poetry sneaked in while Stu watches the fiba,

I met a traveller from an antique land,
Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Ruth Davidson,Queen of Yoons;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”

@Robert Louis says: 16 June, 2018 at 8:15 am:

” … The SNP need to no longer keep suggesting discussion and ‘talks’ with these people, instead it should be a policy of disrupt at every level for them.”

So! It’s SNP BAAAD! as usual then, Robert Louis?

” … Instead, The SNP and Scotgov need to be smart and manipulate events to show to the Scottish public just how craven and out of control the Westminster executive have become.”

Oh! Dear! And here was me thinking that was exactly what the FM, SG and SNP had been doing as a matter of course for years.

” … They must no longer ‘hope’ the media provide coverage of matters, because as we have seen the media was happy to completely black-out the Westminstef power grab, until the walk out happened.”

Whatever gave you the daft impression that the FM, SG or the SNP were under any illusions that the Westminster controlled SMSM, MSM, of either the papers, (on-line or off-line), or the broadcasters would ever give them a fair deal, Robert Louis?

The thing is that if they, (the FM, SG & SNP had adopted the tactics you seem to imagine would be successful then the entire UK and World ay large would have viewed the occurrence at the Westminster PMQs as, “Och! Yon’s jist thone crazy stupid Scottish Nationalist muckin up a’thin as usual.” and the event would have passed by without a mention or a passing thought.

It was only so highly successful because it was not the normal SNP at Westminster approach and that is where good tacticians core and over eager numpties get side-lined. If you want the perfect example of a faction adopting as normal tactics a never ending religious style liturgy of carping at a government doing a good job, then look no further at the extreme Scottish left-wing who have no elected to government representative but who constantly carp at every other party in Scotland. Why then, if their carping is turning voters away do they imagine their continual carping is a successful tactic?

” … If there is an election, the SNP manifesto needs to be a mandate for independence”.

That’s hilarious, Robert Louis, the entire raison dêtre of the SNP is independence for Scotland and it is to that end they work so hard to be the best by far government in the United Kingdom. Yet the SNP is a very broad church and has members with political views that cover almost the entire political spectrum from bright red to bright blue and everything in between. The only unifying thing about them all is the burning desire to free Scotland from Westminster.

If there is anyone in the British Isles that is not aware the SNP’s main manifesto pledge is independence then that person is either just arrived by star-ship or they are Earthlings with extremely dense brains.

If the SNP members at Westminster had been disrupting the proceedings as the norm the walk out would have gone unnoticed and unreported and you wouldn’t have had the opportunity of claiming SNP BAAAD! as usual.

Indy2 says:

The English being my number one enemy,

You can stick your Ethnic bigotry up your arse

Sinking dunes for the stinking yoons

You may not like @Robert Peffers tone
but a Troll he is most certainly not

Meanwhile, Cairnstoon Hamish relaxes with a different timer:
link to en.m.wikipedia.org

“…conservation of momentum and energy…”

Rather like Scotland’s Grassroots Yes! 🙂

Did not the witch from the Wizard of Oz Westminster have a sand-timer like that like.

Remember the scene from the movie, my pretty…

Class in a glass.

@Dr Jim says: 16 June, 2018 at 1:33 pm:

“You may not like @Robert Peffers tone
but a Troll he is most certainly not.

Thing is, Dr Jim, I didn’t accusing them of being trolls, or anything else for that matter except for being over eager to criticise the FM, SG and SNP of acting against the best interests of Scotland.

We have more than enough yoonatics and their, (cough!), “British”, Security Services, “British”, Civil Servants and “British”, armed forces Brigades paid to do that and, of course, the Scottish branch offices and accountancy units of the, (cough!), British, political parties already.

Without the generous help of so called Indy supporters who imagine themselves far better informed and qualified than professional SNP legal teams and lifelong party officials and politicians and that includes, (arguably), one of the finest political thinkers in the modern World the trained lawyer who is our First Minister and leader of the SNP.

Anyway. one of the first things that a Troll will do on being outed is to accuse their outer of being a Troll. I’m not even accusing them of that. I’m accusing them only of being far too ready, on an open forum, to criticism of the SG and SNP who are demonstrably doing a really wonderful job of not only governing Scotland far better than it has ever been governed during my eighty odd years as a Scottish person. They do so as the most challenged government, either pre or post devolution in the history of the United Kingdom.

Even a Labour government at both Westminster and Holyrood could not hold a candle to the SNP Holyrood administration. Yet these people claiming to be Yes supporters are like greyhounds out of traps at any opportunity to yell SNP BAAAD!

They cannot shake off their, (usually), left wing socialist, shackles. I call it the Sillars’ syndrome. Wee Henry suffers from it too – I fear he denniswill still be sitting on the fence while the rest of Scotland is celebrating independence day.

Of course the political spectrum depends upon your perspective. It you are Genghis Khan then Hitler is a left wing extremist and Jacob Rees-Mogg a right wing extremist with Mrs Thatcher a moderate. ;-))

Joking aside if the SNP MPs had been doing what these over eager Wingers wanted them to do there would have been no impact when the walked out. If you are going to play a system at its own game you have to act as if you are swinging with the system or you will just be the irritant trouble-maker. Let me indicate just such a long serving parliamentarian who has long been treated in that manner.

Dennis-Skinner, who also was ordered from the Commons by Bercow but who is treated by the Commons more as a lovable rogue than a serious disruptive member. If you recall the SNP, correctly, on becoming the third largest party at Westminster took up the seats allocate for the third party. Unfortunately one of those seats was the one that had been Dennis’ normal chosen seat but was not now allocated to Labour.

The house rallied behind Dennis and the media ran with the story for weeks, (well that and the commons MP’s fear of getting the clap from the SNP). Are you getting the point now? If your normal behaviour is always bad then when you attempt to buck the system the system shrugs its shoulders and ignores it.

The Wizard of Westminster.
Cast of characters chancers:

– John Bercow plays the (fake) wizard.
– Theresa May plays the wicked witch (as herself)
– Jeremy Corbyn plays the scarecrow (needs a brain)
– Vince Cable plays the lion (nae courage)
– David Mundell plays the tin-man (needs a heart)

There’s no place like HOME.

iScotland coming soon.

Tried to post this ages ago but it has disappeared.

Luigi Everybody knows you can’t polish a turd but you can roll it in glitter. This might be the treatment you were thinking of.

Much comment has been made re government assistance from Holyrood and/or WM re re-building of the GSA.

I am surprise that no mention has been made of Insurance.

Surely we are not going to be told that there was no Fire Insurance cover in place.

Hi Footsoldier.

I’m pretty certain that the commenter of which you typed, has an agenda, which has nothing to do with achieving independence for Scotland – rather the opposite, ie to turn soft No/Yes off with ethnic bigotry.

Just heard on a guest tv that Croatia have a couple of Wingers in there.

Gaun yerselves Croatia.

Wingers at the World Cup!

Karaoke’n’ it UP in the City of Glasgow.

Did Patrick’s, She’s Like the Wind furra 1st time.

Ahm too early for main thread like.

Like laters.

Eh, aye, so… to get back on topic.

100,000+ grains of sand remaining to go…

To Bannockburn.

Evens.