The revolving door
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As a small n nationalist I would obviously abstain or spoil, but if I were forced to vote, I would vote for a party led by Reinhardt Leopold before I would vote for the monstrosity that is the current incarnation of Scotgov.
Limburger was a non entity, but giving the levers of power, I have no doubt that he wouldn’t have sunk to the levels of depravity shown by blinky and pals.
The cartoon could well be that of Sturgeon in the not too distant future.
I wonder who will inherit the poisoned chalice as the next leader of the Westminster controlled “Scottish” Labour Party. Is there a queue waiting, or are they all being very polite and saying “No, after you”?
Absolutely fabulous but I’ve just read the clown Galloway promoting Big Gordie Broon as a possible leader for Labour in Scotland.
It must be something in the water that these Yoons drink. Either that or the comedy writers in the Dailly Express are on the yoony juice.
Never mind labour in Scotland – we have enough problems to be dealt with in Nicola Sturgeon & her circle.
For sheer comic effect looking forward to Anas and his dodgy dossier clipboard or Jackie B and her wonky abacus .
Here’s a question that popped into my head this morning. I haven’t seen it addressed before. It might be worth asking in inconvenient places.
How come none of the other 7 alphabet sisters lodged complaints against AS under the new Scotgov Complaints Procedure between December 2017 and August 2018 (when AS applied for judicial reveivew)? They can hardly claim they didn’t know about it.
More than a little creepy that Stacked is hounding socialists out of the Labour party. Stacked is knighted, implicated in the incarceration of Julian Assange, no lover of Jeremy Corbyn… And no lover of ordinary people.
Very strangely, I am sorry to see RL treated this way. We are going to need a strong Scottish Labour party very, very shortly.
Okay…. Sorry… Stacked? … That was predictive text… Meant Starmer …
Now, if Wee Blinky would allow him to enter Scotland, I can think of one charismatic member of the great Caledonian Diaspora, with a track record of leading a political party to power, who will, after Tuesday, be looking for a wee job.
An Orange man, he could surely restore SLAB’s fortunes, if allowed to.
Othen than Big Donald, I cannot think of a candidate.
Mrs McGlinchie from Cumbernauld wrote to me and I quote” when are you …. getting the sack”……Hes a unless monotoned dummy. Not so daft though negotiating a place of No #1 on the list for the election. Shafts the waspi women but sure doesn’t get shafted. Trougher.
We can only vote SNP First and ISP Second.
Anything else sounds out victory to the London parties
that the appetite for independence is over so they have
a green light to strip out all the powers we no longer want.
After independence all parties should be dismantled and individuals
will be voted for by their own skills and vote for policies they put forward
to their constituents. Not want a party leader demands of them and too
Bad if it’s something that is bad for your own constituents.
I have a wee giggle when I think about students and historians maybe years and decades from now, researching the archives of Scottish politics to write an essay about the years before Independence, and coming across references to mysterious names Ricardo Leopold, Reichmarschall Limpopo, Rumtiddler Leumtum, and all the other nom de ‘plums’, but try as they might, neither their search engine nor Wikipedia will co-operate finding their résumé.
Who were they??? Were they spys, plants, or sleepers, with their backstory classified top secret? How can people just appear, suddenly become leader of the Scottish Labour Party, then disappear into nothingness in a single day? Our records must be incomplete… chapters are missing…
PhD’s will miss their deadlines because students have been up for three days and nights without sleep, speed reading dusty archaic manuscripts trying to decipher Scotland’s own
Da VinciWa wuz he Code.With Rheenhoort Leotard’s sudden and unexplained sacking. No one can now say North British labour is not totally controlled by London.
There is no Scottish political question to which North British Labour is the answer.
Effijy – I am fast reaching the conclusion that voting SNP under Nicola Sturgeon’s leadership will only result in genderwoowoo and humza useless’s hate crime bill. If we can’t replace her now – she will be more securely placed if she wins in May.
I also note, with growing alarm, that Rhiannon spears wants on the SNP list. Yet another reason to make your second vote for the ISP.
Great cartoon Chris – you have captured Ricard lederhausen’s uncanny norman wisdomesque persona.
Great cartoon.
I’m surprised Leonard was even able to find the entrance in the first place…
Willie @7:54
“The cartoon could well be that of Sturgeon in the not too distant future.”
Except Willie, the door she’ll go through might be a lot more clinky.
Scottish Labours climb to pkwer does not necessitate a vertical lift. Horizontal is just fine.
“Davie Oga says:
16 January, 2021 at 7:30 am
As a small n nationalist I would obviously abstain or spoil, but if I were forced to vote, I would vote for a party led by Reinhardt Leopold before I would vote for the monstrosity that is the current incarnation of Scotgov.”
Then you’re actually a small-u unionist. Wake up.
And as poor Richard thought “Hold on!..am I flying?”, the pavement patiently waited
Hud oan, because of events the cartoon was delayed a week, so how did Chris know that Roached Lemon would be out on his ear.
At least Scotched Labour keep one individual in a job. the person that has to continually replace the worn out bearings in that ever-birling revolving door.
@ kapelmeister
Unlike you to miss a gag, such as a possible stinty of clinky for blinky.
A MUST READ.
Given Scotland’s rulers are in the same self-righteous camp.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/01/15/how-big-tech-took-over/
Will Mrs Murrell dare to break her quarantine and offer incense at Holy Joe’s canonization?
I can’t forget his part as union leader stopping the women of Glasgow getting equal pay and then as labour leader pretending labour had sorted it – it was the snp administration in Glasgow that sorted it. The Union even had the audacity to bring Glasgow women out on strike – and cost them more. Two faced liars have nothing on them.
I also can’t forget him asking NS to bring Scottish Water into public ownership – for all he has lived here a long time he knows nothing about Scotland. He does not do his homework about reserved matters and got caught out constantly because of this.
Lastly who ever suggests his questions for PMQ’s should be sacked – he is not capable or quick enough to change tack and even when given an answer he is unable to respond and just keeps reading from his crib sheet.
JB did not stand the last time – too busy saving her own neck – she knows a poison chalice when she sees one.
Yes Kapalmeister @9.29
Sturgeon could very well be headed through a door that’s a bit more clinky.
And it’ll not be a ministerial mondeo that’ll take her there. A black Mariah more like.
And unlike Trump, they’ll be no pardon.
Jeffrey Archer, Jonathan Aitken to name a few, who’ve made that journey.
Good one Dan!
Why not have Rhiannon Spears as next leader? The more high profile public exposure that creature gets, the sooner the general public will wise up to her.
Neil Anderson @10:26
Spear does appear to be the Fuhrer’s favourite.
Ok, I’ll say it, there was not a hope in hell of Leonard going anywhere politically in Scotland,,, because he is a fuckin englishman.
And an englishman, with his bouncy english yorkshire accent telling Scots,,,
“You will never have a referendum on Scottish Independence”
was ALWAYS going to be a hard sell.
And regarding having a laugh at Scottish Labour, for me those days are over. Because for the first time in my life I am Party-less.
I am drifting in the Scottish political wilderness.
So the days when we could sit back and laugh at the likes of Rennie and Davidson are well and truly over.
Thanks for that Sturgeon.
Ottomanboi says: 16 January, 2021 at 9:51 am
I had mentioned after Twitter banned Trump that social media would be different from what we know now.
I am not on social media nor am I interested in it. However, I have been aware over the years the arguments about due to these social media companies offering news from third parties whether they are just publishers or editors.
From the comments of various politicians, particularly here in the UK, it does sound like with Twitter and other social media companies banning Trump, they have crossed the line and become editors of news and therefore fall into the sphere of government legislation that regulates traditional news media.
Rather than Tech companies taking over, it will be governments taking over where these Tech companies toe the party line of the countries they work in or else they start getting taxed like what is happening in France.
George Rutherford says: 16 January, 2021 at 10:33 am
Maybe it was simply because he was totally incompetent and hadn’t a clue?
Richard`s time in office from a quote by another Richard,
`I wasted time, and now doth time waste me.`
I can’t see anything to celebrate in the resignation / sacking of Mr Leonard. It’s a fairly safe assumption that his replacement will be even more English Nationalist / subservient Scottish colonialist right-wing, Red Tory in the mould of Sir Keir Starmer.
From bad to worse.
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I expect BritNat Mr Leonard will have the last laugh: at those who believe that a minority of pro-indy List MSPs will force a majority of careerist colonial administration MSPs to deliver independence.
It’s like believing a minority of SNP MPs can make the UK Parliament deliver on the 2014 Indyref promise of Home Rule. “Hold their feet to the fire”.
On a slightly different tack the news that Rhiannon Spear is headed to the Highland Regional list will be great help in ensuring that the voters don’t give their second vote to the SNP.
Revolving door for the revolting Spear she’s actually going to assist voting for the Indy list party.
But here’s, the big question. Who is going to stand in Blinky Clinky’s seat?
It’s a shame they’ve got rid of him cause he couldn’t win a raffle. I posted last night tongue in cheek that Lennon will win and go pro-referendum if she’s allowed and try and get former Labour types like me to “vote for Labour to get a referendum”. After all that’s the SNP current position. Why not.
SNP 1, ISP (or some other) 2. No brainer. The gender nutjobs have been routed from the NEC. The Hate bill will be further gutted and Sturgeon may well be gone. Also, post election the Holyrood landscape will be totally transformed if the “second vote for Indy” strategy is successful. All current legislative bets are off.
At all costs Yoons must not control Holyrood. Why make Johnson’s plan to transfer control to the big office in Edinburgh any easier. So don’t “not vote SNP 1 because of genderwoowoo and Hate Crime bill”. Things are changing fast. We need to change the record.
Colin Alexander 10.40
You reminded me of the bullshit we all took in when voting to send SNP MPs to London to fight the english prime minister on our behalf,,,
“Holding their feet to the fire”
“We will keep Westminster honest”
Talk about cringe, those words make me squirm with embarrassment and anger at being such a prick for taking in all the Blackford and Co bullshit.
Fuck off SNP.
And when are we going to start hearing of some kind of fightback from the likes of Cherry and her rebellious pop also. The silence is deafening.
When is somebody going to go toe to toe with that reprobate Sturgeon.
I ever get angry just writing about Sturgeon.
So according to the press the millionaire knight of the realm and leader of the Labour party Sir Keir Starmer gave gave Rickety Leotard the boot because wealthy Labour donors were going to with hold their cash if he didn’t do so.
SLAB, the London Labour’s branch office in Scotland has had around ten leaders since 1999. a sure sign that the branch office in Scotland hasn’t a clue what to do about the rise of the SNP and independence. Of course the brain dead dullards within the party are too stupid to realise that they’re in this position because their policies towards independence and their utter devotion to the BritNat union has seen their support take nosedive.
To add to the Rickety Leotards woes there’s an outcry from the Labour grassroots movement due to Leotard securing the top spot on the list seats as aprt of his removal deal.
It can’t be Lennon.
How can you vote for a woman who says she was Ra*ed by a Senior Labour figure
but doesn’t think she should tell the police or expose him to stop any repeat.
It’s a hideous crime and yes I understand how some women cannot find the resolve to seek justice
but a leading female politician cannot be a success if they can let this like this go by.
Sarwar is desperate for the job and has the money to back himself.
I’m sure he can match Leonard’s poor efforts for 3 years like all the rest.
Starmer will be a Hard Daze Knight if Lennon gets the gig.
Ian Murray seems a good bet to me. He’s need to resign his Westminster seat first so it probably won’t happen.
At the moment, someone like him would transform Labour’s fortunes here.
Gordon Brown as a Scottish Labour leader would be a game changer for many floating Independence voters.
Can’t see him going for it although he does seem a bit ‘lost’ these days.
“Ricardo Leopold, Reichmarschall Limpopo, Rumtiddler Leumtum, and all the other nom de ‘plums’”
Oh man, I wish I’d thought of “Rumtiddle Leumtum”.
Kapelmeister – nevertheless she may well come in through the bathroom window , shouting ” HELP ” !
I imagine it’s just another day in the life of Slab and whoever takes over will soon be yesterday’s news .
Best just to let it be
Who was it that dispensed with ‘Free Legal Aid’? Who do you think?
Well, it was Nicola Sturgeon. Instead of a few million per year to provide law equally for all, she lavishes our money instead on spoof inquiries like Edinburgh Trams.
If there were to be a return in Scotland to equality of law for all, then I would fear for the future liberty of Sturgeon, Wolffe, Evans, Swinney and Murrell.
Hence, another of our egalitarian freedoms has been removed by Sturgeon never to return.
Robert Hughes
If Anas get’s it it’ll be Here Comes The Son.
If it’s Jackie Baillie it’s All You Need Is Lunch.
Can you imagine the shift in voting intentions at the next Holyrood election if Scottish Labour actually lived up to the true meaning of their name and came out in favour of Scotland becoming an independent nation?
Because the SNP enjoy raking in the support of many Labour supporters because of their stance on Scottish Independence.
If Scottish Labour were to suddenly come out in favour of Scottish Independence, then I am sure they would be a serious challenger to the SNP dominance of Scottish politics.
And it would shake the SNP to the core.
But with the likes of Sarwar, Scottish Labour will do as Scottish Labour have always done, continue to be known as the “Branch Office”.
We can see from yesterday’s letter from Levy and McRae that there is unease at the impartiality of the Holyrood Inquiry convener, Linda Fabiani. I can only say that, from the beginning, when the names Fabiani and Baillie were announced, I thought that it would turn into another Holyrood stitch-up.
Is it not the Secretary of State for Scotland, under the terms of the devolution settlement, that should be in charge of investigations into breaches of the Ministerial Code?
Holyrood may carry-out the inquiry, but surely the results should be reported to him and if he is not satisfied with the fairness of the process or the conclusion, then he can instruct it to be done again?
Personally, I believe the conduct of Fabiani to be very far below that required to ensure fairness to all.
The arrogant tool has had a warning shot fired across her broad arse. Let’s hope she has the gumption to understand that it what it was and she ups her game considerably in the coming weeks.
There are many things that I did not admire about Alex Salmond but as a charismatic and dedicated leader, he stands head and shoulders above anyone on that Inquiry panel. I just found-out the other day that Angela Constance was once on the Inquiry team…..my God.
A BritNat newspaper that’s not particularly welcome in Liverpool, has a bookies (McBookies) giving odds of 6/4, that Sturgeon will stand down or resign as FM in the not to distant future.
McBookie had Angus Robertson and Joanna Cherry both tied on 2/1 as the next SNP leader.
Pacman 10.35am
So Leonard being an englishman, (with an english accent), telling Scots they will NEVER have a Referendum on Scottish Independence, kinda put the brakes on any ambitions he had of becoming the First Minister of Scotland?
Geez peace with all the PC shit Pacman.
Hope Ms Sturgeon is next along with her woke cabal. Sick of the sight of them all.
@ studhog on previous thread – “we need a good guys list for the list election”.
It is being worked on by Geoff Bush who did a list for the NEC elections and worked a treat with delegates belonging to the facebook site he set up “SNP Members for Independence”- the Rev gave him a slot on Wings back in October/November. Denise’s list was very similar and good work too.
Breeks says: at 9:03 am
“Who were they??? Were they spys, plants, or sleepers, with their backstory classified top secret? How can people just appear, suddenly become leader of the Scottish Labour Party, then disappear into nothingness in a single day? Our records must be incomplete… chapters are missing…”
You’ll no doubt recall the low tech FundilyMundily Murphy Bot 900 didn’t really cut it for long.
(3 mins Moodievision))
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg49Ysjyads
Well, that failure meant more investment was required… Have you not watched #Westworld? Cash was spent and a puppet produced and coded. The RL initials hint as to the origins….#RemouldedLatex
Captain Yossarian says:
16 January, 2021 at 11:49 am
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“Who was it that dispensed with ‘Free Legal Aid’? Who do you think?
Well, it was Nicola Sturgeon. Instead of a few million per year to provide law equally for all, she lavishes our money instead on spoof inquiries like Edinburgh Trams.
If there were to be a return in Scotland to equality of law for all, then I would fear for the future liberty of Sturgeon, Wolffe, Evans, Swinney and Murrell.
Hence, another of our egalitarian freedoms has been removed by Sturgeon never to return.”
Nods Head.
Reading through these columns it is obvious there are still far,far too many who either have their heads 2′ under the sand and believe that just a couple of votes will see everything right.
I fully understand the “irritation” to put it mildly, of those nationalists who have seen ZERO movement towards their goal.
And there are many more who see the current party of government as one beset with, basically, evil and see the only option is one of euthanasia and rebirth.
Shhh George Rutherford. If Labour came out in favour of independence then Labour would be back as a challenger.
Truly, save for independence, what is the purpose in voting for the current SNP. Name me one popular policy introduced in the Sturgeon years.
Under Salmond, tuition free education, removal of prescription taxes – yes taxes because that’s what they were legislated to be, removal of hospital parking fees, removal of bridge tolls, a huge expansion of road, school and hospital building to create much needed infrastructure and jobs.
Under Sturgeon, the Named Person – ruled illegal, the Gender Recognition Bill, the Hate Crime Bill. Well there must have been something else, but you know what, I can’t think.
Oh yes, Sturgeon was going to stop us getting dragged out of Europe and someone else was going to hold Westminster’s feet to the fire.
And all wrapped up with a rotten stinking corrupt administration that tried to jail an innocent man.
Yes, Stronger for Scotland, that’s Nicola and the SNP.
Playing it safe this week I see!
Some reading for those stuck indoors.
https://yoursforscotlandcom.wordpress.com/2021/01/16/section-one/
Haven’t see these from yesterday linked to.
https://www.barrheadboy.com/the-sword-of-damocles/
https://theorkneynews.scot/2021/01/15/doing-politics-differently/
KP
“f Anas get’s it it’ll be Here Comes The Son.
If it’s Jackie Baillie it’s All You Need Is Lunch.”
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If either of them get it, it’s Yesterday 🙂
Captain Yossarian@11.29
Would Ian Murray have to resign as an MP – Douglas Ross hasn’t?
Is that not just applying to the SNP – i.e. to stop Joanna Cherry?
Willie 12.40pm
I kinda lost where you were going with your post.
Captain Yossarian @ 11.49
Suggest that you check up your facts – free legal aid is still available for certain reasons in Scotland and free legal advice.
Dan 12.46pm
I hope you don’t start going down the same road as a wee wummin who used to be on Wings and she posted a link to every link on the Internet LOL.
Can’t remember her name, but she went OTT with links.
I know it’s slightly off-topic, but there has been some discussion above regarding social media. I thought the following quote by Phil Zimmerman might be of interest:
“I think the biggest threat to privacy that we face is Moore’s Law. It’s the power of computing doubling every eighteen months. The human population is not doubling every eighteen months, but the ability for computers to keep track of us is. Surveillance technology with computers behind them to analyse the surveillance data can give rise to an omniscient government and it’s not clear that democracy can survive omniscience.”
As regards the topic in hand, my favourite name for the currently benighted leader of the Conservative Labour and Unionist Party down south is Sir Queer Charmer!
kapelmeister says:
16 January, 2021 at 10:29 am
Neil Anderson @10:26
“Spear does appear to be the Fuhrer’s favourite”
There was a time when hyperbolic, Nazi, references were the preserve of deranged unionists unable to make a coherent argument. When the pseudo NGO “Rape Crisis Scotland” acts as the coordinated mouth piece of the regime it is comparable to
the German word Gleichschaltung.
“Synchronisation”
This was the progressive and coordinated utilisation of the civil service, media, and education system in order to impose policy from central government, and to crush real or imagined political threats.
Given that The Scottish Government has morphed into a criminal enterprise in order to protect the Fuhrer, I do not believe comparisons with the Nazi party are entirely inappropriate.
Alan D says:
16 January, 2021 at 9:47 am
“Then you’re actually a small-u unionist. Wake up.”
Alan, if you honestly think Scotgov have any intention of delivering a referendum, once this inconvenient exercise of carrot dangling is completed, I’d like you to know that my wife’s cousin is a prince in Delta State, Nigeria. He’s having a bit of difficulty in getting his money out the country. Very complicated. I am sure you are a trustworthy gentleman who would be able to help him, for a substantial fee of course. I also have a couple of investments that are guaranteed to deliver massive returns, but I am not at liberty to share this with everyone. I am only permitted to share this with special people like you. You deserve that financial freedom. Ring me.
Just wandered over to Pish Washout’s Twitter to check the latest #IndyBloggerBad from the Denialist-in-Chief, and surprise surprise I’m blocked!
Perhaps the @SNP – Sturgeon’s Nasty Party touched a raw nerve…
They don’t like it up ’em, Captain Mainwaring, they don’t like it up’em!
And the rest of tabloids are very busy trying to instil in us, a mind set of too wee, too poor, too stupid,
As far as I can see every country is struggling right now, with so many people out of work, children not being educated, the nhs on its knees, all economies are struggling.
And Having been run by uk goverment for three hundred years or more, perhaps they are correct in one aspect,
We certainly have not thrived under the British goverment, we never did benifit from our oil, the Barnett formula, taxes being evenly spent, and nothing to replace the closing of our old industries, like boat building, coal mining, fishing, steel,
wind turbine and solar energy do not cut the mustard, it employs very few people and a lot of them come with the company, not the local population.
While the land belongs to a few rich people that mostly avoid living in Scotland.
A nation anywhere struggles when you take their ability away to educate the next generation, clothe, house and feed themselves, a nation deprived of all it’s foundations, will fail,
that seems to have been a long standing ambition from the British Parliament. To keep the blighters down.
Our last generation has also had problems in other countries not recognising Scottish qualifications, our children and grandchildren are going through the work and exams and then finding they have to do this all over again if they wish to work a few years outside of Scotland.
This is not all about the snp, I agree we have to deal with the issue of who is leading the devolved government at the moment,
However there must come a time soon when we change how we think, a devolved parliament for Scotland? A parliament on the restricted devolved scenario and overwhelming run by civil servants and tories, There is no opposition, with a few snp leading a false front. Results in What we see today, ie ,Alex Salmond and his family being accused, with the threat of false imprisonment,
This fake and false devolved goverment Will not lift the plight of the Scottish people, it was not meant too.
“SNP 1, ISP (or some other) 2. No brainer”
ISP 2? for now yes, by all means.
SNP 1? Absolutely not.
These people were elected to Holyrood in 2016 under a mandate to deliver Indyref if certain conditions were met. Those conditions were met long time ago yet, not even one of all the SNP MSPs has had the gumption to send an affidavit to the S30 court case to support the right of the people of Scotland to hold a referendum without the “consent” of a foreign government.
That level of betrayal and cowardice has killed stone dead any reason I could ever have left to vote for an SNP MSP.
If these people were dishonest enough to gain my vote in 2016 under the pretence of using it to deliver an indyref and now, given by Mr Keatings the opportunity to prove their intention to deliver that referendum, they choose to either refuse to support the court case denying the people of Scotland their legitimate right or are so unprincipled and coward that cannot bring themselves to stand up and fight for our rights, frankly, they can fck right of.
I give my vote to individuals with the expectation that they will stand to represent my interests and those of Scotland. I do not hand my vote to unprincipled cowards who rather fight to keep in place the most utterly corrupt, unethical and undemocratic government Scotland has seen in the history of devolution instead of getting up their arses and fight for Scotland’s rights and interests.
Does the SNP want my first vote? That comes at a price and the price is to eject that fraud out of the driving seat AND to apologise publicly to Mr Salmond and the electorate for what they put him through abusing taxpayers’ money to smear him AND to include in the manifesto of 2021 a mandate for independence.
That is my final price. No discounts are on offer.
Davie Oga @1:02
Yes, gleichshaltung indeed. A good observation.
Mia @1:15
Succinctly put. Add 1 to that!
The reason we punched above our weight all these years was because our education system was unrivalled anywhere in the world.
Holyrood has fecked our education system and I mean all at Holyrood.
We cannot halt this managed decline until we sort-out education.
A dictatorial leader with a liking for Spier?.No no juxt no.
@ Rev: in case you haven’t already done so, will you please pass on to Mr Salmond the wish by many of us that he arrange a fundraiser for his legal costs?
On a pertinent topic.
https://nypost.com/2021/01/15/23-die-in-norway-after-receiving-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine/
Not much coverage in Ukania.
Bit of Pfizer history.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/pfizer-pay-163-50m-after-deaths-nigerian-children-drug-trial-experiment-1663402.html
Trust us were Big Pharma.
A letter to the BMJ on natural immunity and vaccine dependency.
https://www.bmj.com/content/368/bmj.m1089/rr-6
The Labour branch officer gets booted out, the Dutch Government resigns, the Estonian Government resigns, Germany gets a new party leader – it’s just unconscionable madness.
They should have all remained at their posts in these difficult times, until the Coronavirus crisis has been dealt with…
If SNP are not Number 1 then you are putting a Unionist Party in.
Spoil the ballot paper as an independence supporter and you put a Unionist in.
Vote for any Unionist Party and be subject London Tory rule forever.
At this time there is no alternative unless a major group of players could put an
Independence Party together in a few weeks and raise millions to fund it.
It’s SNP one last time with gritted teeth.
To be cleaned out on Independence Day!
@Saffron Robe says:
16 January, 2021 at 1:01 pm
The problem with harvesting all the data is the analysis..
it is easier to track what websites you visit, as more than a few criminals and terrorists have found out. But trying to monitor and identify the content and context of social media messages is like installing smoke detectors in Hell.
I see the inestimable (no, really) James Kelly over at Scot Goes Pop is continuing his war with our own inestimable Rev, but by proxy, through a ‘young female friend’ who loves Nicola, but not our own very reverend Reverend. I tried posting a link on Scot Goes Pop across to the Robin McAlpine article (on Source, rather than Wings, to minimise possible upset to sensitive souls) but (as expected) was denied the opportunity, presumably because Robin’s views don’t fit with the officially sanctioned Scot Goes Pop narrative.
It seems that ‘wheesht’ for indy’ has morphed into ‘wheesht for Nicola’, for James and so many others, now that serious allegations of political corruption are being uncovered at the upper echelons of the SNP and Scottish government.
Anyway, if James’ young friend is open-minded enough to read Robin’s views, she can read them here and decide for herself whether our reverend Reverend is still the monster she remembers:
(OK, I won’t bother with the link as, of course, ‘she’ is just as familiar with the article as ‘he’ (James) is.)
@Effigy
There is a problem. Return Ms Sturgeon with a majority for the next few years. We already know there will be no indyref soon, therefore Nicola can do whatever she likes with legislation, believing she is increasingly permitted by the majority.
Independence if carrying a lot of luck ,may come in the years ahead but we would have to live with renewed GRA and Hate crime Bills in the period between election and referendum.
Colin Alexander
I apologise to you for not being more voiceferous in your defence when you were bullied and abused by the party loyal on this site.
Bravo CC.
In answer to RL.
NS. ‘I would remind the honourable gentleman, that Scottish Labour is a reserved matter, and to ask his MP to take it up’.
………
Media blackout continues..
More meat please Stu, since you seem to be the go to guy for releasing public interest material.
Effijy
I wont be voting for any unionist party come May…….which basically means I wont be voting.
You can grit your teeth all you like, they’ll fall out before SNP does anything about Scottish Independence.
This is impressive!
https://twitter.com/NHSLouisaJordan
In Italy thousands of restaurant owners are risking fines in acts of civil disobedience against the politically fragile Italian government’s quarantine restrictions ruining their livelihoods.
One day in Scotland, civil disobedience might be necessary.
Do Scots have the balls?
Urgent knitting to do instead perhaps?
OT
IOPRA 15 GENNAIO
This is how it starts……this is how we find our way back.
Hugo Talks on utub,e
While you guys are watching that squirrel I have being reading this shite on Twitter.
“The British Government is back in Scotland and its not about to surrender any further ground. The UK Shared Prosperity Fund should just be the start. Under the great new powers in the UK Internal Market Act 2020 the UK Gov can bypass awful Scottish parliament far more often.”
Discuss!
@Famous15,
Where have you been. We have discussed this for nearly a year on this site. Rjght here. It was predicted and yet the SNP have done exactly what to counter it?
Discuss.
Not being a member of the SNP I am not that interested in what they do. I want civic Scotland to react.
I want ordinary Joes and Joans to shout out!
Effijy says:
16 January, 2021 at 1:35 pm
At this time there is no alternative unless a major group of players could put an
Independence Party together in a few weeks and raise millions to fund it.
Either that, or the existing Independence Party, the SNP, (remember them?), get’s over it’s mid-life crisis, purges itself of lunatics, weirdos, egotists, liars and charlatans, and decrees that the May Elections will be a thoroughly un-cluttered plebiscite on Independence…
Allow the Scottish people to register a democratic mandate for Scottish Independence that is neither jeopardised, preconditioned, or blackmailed, by the kamikaze lunacy of the SNP under the rogue leadership of Nicola Sturgeon.
Strikes me it is that which is Scotland’s make or break option… Giving Scotland a clear run at a binary choice on Independence, and an end, finally, to the mind-numbing prevarication and ‘gradualism’ of a useless SNP, grovelling for yet another free pass they haven’t earned.
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Bob Mack says:
16 January, 2021 at 2:03 pm
@Famous15,
Where have you been. We have discussed this for nearly a year on this site. Rjght here. It was predicted and yet the SNP have done exactly what to counter it?
Discuss. ”
Could not agree more.
The SNP under Nicola Sturgeon’s direction have done absolutely nothing to promote independence. They have actually prevented the membership from discussing ways and means of achieving indy at a number of conferences.
I strongly resent the idea that I should just shut up and vote SNP. The leadership know that the grassroots are, in the main, furious about the direction the party has taken.
All we get from the wokeratti is statements of conjecture -” you must vote SNP or the yoons will win ” and gossip, smears ,insults and lies directed at fellow members of the SNP, who are smart enough to know that you don’t vote woke.
No party can canvass for independence with the genderwoo/stasi hate crime bill hanging round their neck. Might I suggest we drop these positions VERY publicly until after independence. And if a party promoting these policies wins after independence then so be it.
That would be the best option ( and would go along way to healing the division in the party) but it wont be done – until its far too late. And that is not because of the grassroots- it is because of the sleekit, untrustworthy plotters leading the party. The woke know they are losing, they should accept this.
You don’t always have to like someone to agree with their position. And you don’t have to hate, slander and smear someone who disagrees with you.
Finally the new NEC better start doing something about Peter Murrell. Or are they just the same as the old NEC ?
Apparently Ricardo Montydon was elected simply as the ‘Anyone but Anas’ candidate. So I expect it will be Anas vs Anyone again.
Rinse and Repeat.
Tom @ 1:42pm, I saw that and had the same thoughts. I am an old fart, but would a young woman inspired by Nicola Sturgeon call herself and her peers “girls?”
Rev Stu, it’s high time you got promoted to Bishop. Then nobody will be able to bash you or, if they do, at least we all get a juvenile snigger out of it.
iain mhor says:
16 January, 2021 at 1:34 pm
The Labour branch officer gets booted out, the Dutch Government resigns, the Estonian Government resigns, Germany gets a new party leader – it’s just unconscionable madness.
“They should have all remained at their posts in these difficult times, until the Coronavirus crisis has been dealt with. ”
I think that’s very irresponsible of them.
They should have stayed until “after the economic effects of the virus have been dealt with”.Scotland is blessed that The Leader is still devoted to protecting us. Those politicians you mention all abandoned their people in their moment of greatest need. I believe that they felt under pressure because they were elected using systems where they can be removed from office due to ungrateful people voting. If they were in Scotland they could have remained. I feel more secure knowing that our Leader can be rejected by 90% of the people in her constituency but still remain in Parliament due to the party list. We all know that would never happen, because The Leader is the most popular politician in the world, but at least we have that security knowing our enemies can’t use electoral fraud to remove her.
Craig Murray’s latest is worth a read.
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2021/01/only-a-corrupt-lord-advocate-stands-between-peter-murrell-and-prison/
@Effijy
The current SNP leadership are not moving Scotland towards Indy.
They ignore AUOB, have sidelined Yes in general, folded at the earliest opportunity over S30, are content to mess with hate legislation, gender woo-woo, etc., and have belatedly turned their limited attention to IndyRef2 because someone reminded them an election is around the corner and some of the peasantry are revolting.
As for Yoons at Holyrood?
Newsflash!!!
The Yoons at Westminster, NOT Holyrood, are the clear and present danger to Scotland.
Brexit showed how effective the SNP at Westminster are at protecting Scotland, therefore if Westminster wants to strip Holyrood of everything it currently does, it matters not whether SNP or Yoon coalition running Holyrood – Westminster will do what it wants to Scotland and the SNP will do nothing – whether in power at Holyrood or in opposition!
It will make no difference to Scotland whether I vote SNP 1 ISP 2 or SPOIL 1 ISP 2, except to me, in that I can sleep at night knowing I haven’t endorsed Sturgeon, Murrell & Co. continuing to shaft Scotland and anyone who threatens their regime.
Effijy says:
“It’s SNP one last time with gritted teeth.
To be cleaned out on Independence Day!”
Germany, November, 1933
“It’s NSDAP, one last time with gritted teeth. To be cleaned out after they get rid of the communists and restore law and order”
If you do nothing else today read Craig Murrays latest blog.
It is damning and confirmstion of conspiracy. He has the relevant documents.
Yes Davie….they went on to quickly clean-out the Jews and Gypsies, didn’t they.
The rule of law needs to be applied now, not some time later-on. We, of course, have one of the most ancient and well respected legal professions in the world (maybe I should have used past-tense there). Personally, I would like to see it used to prosecute the Lord Advocate.
Beaker says:
“But trying to monitor and identify the content and context of social media messages is like installing smoke detectors in Hell.”
Beaker, I like your analogy which is a good one, but what about Cambridge Analytica and the influencing of public opinion via social media? There seem to be pretty sophisticated means of influence and manipulation at work.
I tend to think of the internet like the Oracle at Delphi – the answers can be somewhat ambiguous or in the form of a riddle. We really have to apply our own knowledge to make sense of things!
Well Mr. Oga,
Nice one. Effijay calls for voting SNP1 in May (as I am) and you call us Nazi appeasers/sympathisers. True colours, eh? Or are you going to apologise?
Well Mr. Yossarian
So you agree with Mr. Oga. You wanna apologies? Oh and “I want the Lord Advocate prosecuted”. Oh for fuck sake, have you not read ANY of the Rev’s work via FoI on the corruption in COPFS.
I note both of you are newish to here. Worth a watching, I’d say.
“…. Germany gets a new party leader – it’s just unconscionable madness.
“They should have all remained at their posts in these difficult times, until the Coronavirus crisis has been dealt with. ”
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Angie’s been Chancellor for 16+ years and wants to retire.
Unlike “Boris and the Blowjobs” in WM, she does have reasonably competent folk looking after the health portfolio (not perfect by any means, but doing the job).
There is also the German Bundestag election 26 Sept. this year where the new CDU leader Armin Laschet (a plonker) wants to be the next chancellor – whereas most folk want, Marcus Söder, the CSU leader to get the job.. 🙂
I’m brand new Katherine.
I had a look at Craig Murray’s work too, just earlier today.
He has an opinion on James Wolffe which is not too dissimilar to mine.
I do not expect for a moment that he will be prosecuted, but we have an ancient legal system in Scotland which promises the fair rule of law to all, whether rich or poor although it doesn’t quite work like that does it?
Would you rather hang me from a tree for being new on here?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisa_Jordan
Just as well Jeanne Freeman got in there first otherwise the vaccinations would be done at the NHS Nicola Sturgeon.
I wonder who came up with the name? Anyone know? There must be a ton of unsung heroes and heroines (hah, got the spelling right for a change) that we never get to hear of normally because that might instill a sense of pride and ambition.
Rev
Any reason why my comment at 12.47 is still in moderation.
Have I been bigly bad..?
Captain Yossarian @3:24
“I do not expect for a moment that he will be prosecuted…”
I’d just point out that a U.S. Attorney General, John N Mitchell, who held that post in the Nixon administration, was convicted of perjury over Watergate and went to jail.
katherine hamilton says:
16 January, 2021 at 3:11 pm
Well Mr. Oga,
Nice one. Effijay calls for voting SNP1 in May (as I am) and you call us Nazi appeasers/sympathisers. True colours, eh? Or are you going to apologise?
No I’m not going to apologise. There are clear parallels between the behaviour of this Scottish Government and the NSDAP and I wouldn’t be voting for them before a clear out of the criminals masquerading as Minister’s of State. You want to endorse them with your vote that’s your choice. Very few people who voted NSDAP were Nazi appeasers. They just wanted better for their nation.
Uganda’s Yoweri Museveni has been re-elected President again after 35 years in the post.
One of Sturgeon’s role models probably.
Davie Oga
Thank you for your kindness.
It’s heartening that Stu Campbell, yourself, Craig Murray, Alex Salmond and many others now realise that Nicola Sturgeon and her cronies of the subservient SNP colonial administration are part of the problem, not the solution.
Nicola Sturgeon serves as a prime example of what happens when politicians are given unquestioning loyalty because they sometimes “talk the talk” about independence, usually at election time.
Restoration of national sovereignty and the asserting of the sovereignty of the people involves holding our parliamentarians and government to account.
It gives me hope that more of the sovereign people of Scotland now want to hold our Scottish politicians to account, Even when those politicians wear a yellow rosette and claim to be “pro-independence”.
@Kaperlmeister: Scotland is very, very far from the US in terms of justice for all.
I recall there were something like 30-40 UD gov officials who went to jail following Watergate.
Here, we’re farting around waiting on Linda Fabiani. That’s why I remain ever pessimistic.
No you’re right Captain Yossarian. Nevertheless, no one is exempt from prosecution.
Suggestions to possibly vote for the British Labour Party(north british branch),and SNP compared to Nazis again here, by supposedly pro indy commenters.
Bit too rich even for the most gullible of what’s left of the pro indy Wings readers.
“If SNP are not Number 1 then you are putting a Unionist Party in”
We already put a unionist party in in 2016. Since Sturgeon assumed control of the party, the SNP has become New labour sailing under a false flag.
When not a single SNP MSP has had the backbone to send an affidavit in support of the Keatings’ case and in support of popular sovereignty and the right of the people of Scotland to hold an independence referendum without having to ask consent from a foreign country, the SNP is in my eyes a unionist party.
The SNP has had FIVE YEARS to call a referendum. The only thing they have done is to make up excuses for not calling one. If now that somebody else is doing their work for them and actual voters are footing the bill for the cost of the court case the SNP MSPs don’t even have the balls to support, frankly to pretend they are still a pro-independence party is as credible as the tooth fairy.
No mandate for independence and/or no apology to Mr Salmond and/or no kicking Sturgeon out = no vote from me.
Didn’t the SNP charlatans tell us hundreds of times that we need to reach 60% before we can even consider ending the union? Well then, what better way of achieving it than putting one of the other useless parties in control of Holyrood so the no voters can see without any kind of shielding what they voted for. I am sure not only we will reach 60%, we will surpass it in a flash. So bring it on.
Now that may focus the minds of the sleepy SNP MPs: unless they put their arses in gear, they will be next to be shown the door.
Mia says:
16 January, 2021 at 4:05 pm
But they have a secret plan – SHHHHH.
“But they have a secret plan”
Turns out their plan is not secret anymore: their plan was to use millions of taxpayers’ cash and abuse our justice system to do the dirty work on behalf of Westminster of throwing Mr Salmond away from politics, to surrender our assets, rights, sovereignty and markets to England and to forever render worthless our democracy, parliament, justice system, females’ rights, freedom of speech and independence.
They can stick their fkng plan and their fraud of a leader where the sun does not shine.
George Rutherford @ 11.04:
why don’t you come clean and tell us what you really think?
Joking apart, with the current direction of travel, those views will undoubtedly become more prevalent, and if nothing changes, indications are that many will contemplate snubbing elections or spoiling ballot papers.
Perhaps that is part of the plan. Perhaps, as some have suggested, we are drifting towards a different form of rule. Perhaps the outcome of present inquiries will give us a clue?
Democracy certainly has some serious questions to answer. Until then, like others here, and most of my circle, I cannot support the party I have voted for all my life.
Keep fighting AS, and Rev, and allies, my funding contribution is ready to send.
@Bob Mack says:
16 January, 2021 at 1:25 pm
A dictatorial leader with a liking for Spier?.No no juxt no.
As far as I know, she isn’t an architect…
I’ll vote SNP 1 because I want to register a pro indy vote and that’s still the only way to do it. But I really want someone different to give my second vote to, and not the greens. As yet, ISP is still nowhere well known enough. If they stood a random, unknown candidate, I can’t imagine them securing many votes. What would be great is ISP as an umbrella for some big, well-kent names. I’d love to see Alex as one of them, but there’s a risk if it’s seen as the Alex Salmond party, so not sure it’s a great idea. Andy Whiteman, maybe some ex-SNP people or apolitical indy campaigners. It should technically be possible to re-make HR so the opposition is also predominantly pro-indy, which would make it much harder to fight.
George Rutherford @ 10.33
Interesting that you should highlight the importance of language when it comes to the question of independence, the latter a choice which is largely dependent on one’s national identity and sense of belonging, the basis of which is language and culture.
Hence most peoples in self-determination conflict are linguistically (and thus culturally) divided and the Scots are no different.
As I found in my research (see ‘Doun-Hauden’) language is a fundamental determinant of Scottish independence. Maist Scots speakers vote Aye, maist Anglophone’s vote Naw. Much as we can see by who sits where in Holyrood.
Which also explains why our colonial oppressor refuses tae teach Scots bairns thay’re ain langage.
I have been reading Craig Murray’s latest comments, and definitely agree the lord advocate needs to come under the law as much as murrell and associates.
When police and witnesses are placed under pressure by murrell and txt friends to act and behave in such a way that jeopardises and threatens a mans freedom is conspiring to alter the course of justice, and then the advocate surely seems very keen on keeping it all under wraps.
The rest, Begs the the question as to whom is actually running the devolved government?
@Cath 4.42pm
It’s a good aim, but I fear we’re already too late. There is little sign of the ISP reaching escape velocity, altho’ I hope they do secure some seats and give both the yoon seat warmers and SNP gradualists a bit of a shock. As you correctly surmise, the issue is the lack of big names and the fact they haven’t had enough time (and probably lack the resources) to make enough of an impact in time for #HR2021.
I’d definitely give them my list vote if they stand candidates. I won’t vote SNP now, not in Edinburgh Central. I’d sooner spoil my ballot than vote for Robertson or indeed for the mess that is the current SNP.
I fear Angus MacNeil is right (according to reports of his appearance on Mark McNaught’s radio show – I haven’t heard it yet….) the earliest we can now expect any progress in 2026.
The pertinent question for those disillusioned with the SNP and current direction of the movement is: what do we do about it. 5 years is a fair amount of time.
Yesterday’s twitter launch of the Spear may have endured technical problems, but no such issues with flight for “Oor Linda”…
Evans above us plebs in more ways than one.
https://theferret.scot/leslie-evans-flights/
@James Che
I read it earlier too, James. I think that anyone reading this would conclude likewise. It makes you wonder why we our attention is focused on the Holyrood Inquiry. They are not going to investigate themselves. This is an Inquiry which should be run by the Secretary of State.
It’s all going to come-out in the end anyway. At the speed it is moving just now that could be very soon indeed. If Holyrood continue to fart around wasting everyone’s time, then it will be to their own detriment in the end.
Doh! “Oor Lesley”
Guess that’s the dementia kickin’ in…
I wonder how scotlands relatively sluggish vaccination programme will effect mays election. England is vaccinating nearly 300,000 people a day now a massive increase over what it was a week ago. In Scotland we are only vaccinating roughly 15,000 day and it seems to have stalled at around that figure. That means they are vaccinating people in England twice as fast than in Scotland and that gap is only likely to get bigger in the next few weeks.
It looks like the Scottish government just haven’t done enough preparations for a mass vaccination programme that they knew was coming for months. According to the health secretary they are still scoping out suitable locations for mass vaccination centres and don’t expect any to be open until early march, while they are already open in England.
This scottish government normally doesn’t shy away from making comparisons to england but in this case according to them comparisons are “unhelpful”.
He’s out because he is unwilling to do the nasty stuff that head office is and will be asking for.
Enter the Weasel.
I have been reading Craig Murray’s latest comments, and definitely agree the lord advocate needs to come under the law as much as murrell and associates.
When police and witnesses are placed under pressure by murrell and txt friends to act and behave in such a way that jeopardises and threatens a mans freedom is conspiring to alter the course of justice, and then the advocate surely seems very keen on keeping it all under wraps.
The rest, Begs the the question as to whom is actually running the devolved government?
I will add that this says a lot more about the snps position in holyrood as well, if the devolved government in Scotland is actually being ran by civil servants, a lord advocate, Tory members and Murrells txt friends friends an all, there is no doubt about the strangle hold they have on this devolved government, it would appear that the unionists are running the our devolved government from the inside.
Sorry to keep repeating this but we do need a people’s parliament more than ever, chosen by the people, it will be the only way forward in the future to ensure that the the people we voted in, are the actual people sitting there.
Scottish Vaccinations have been focused on the most vulnerable in
Our society, those in Care Homes.
On Thursday of this week over 80% of residents had been vaccinated
and possible all in the next few days.
Some of the vaccines we have required the extremely low temperature storage
to be effective making the job more difficult.
A good result was thought to be a 5% wastage.
It has only been 1% so far.
England misses all its targets and will cheat and manipulate like only they can,
ie a Single Glove being a piece of PPE Kit and 40,000 tests put in the post box was
supposed to let them reach their 100,000 target.
They have mass queues at Sports Centres etc and vaccinate the less vulnerable even with limited supplies? They just want numbers in and if the most vulnerable can’t travel, too bad.
I’d bet my life Scotland will be getting the more difficult vaccine to store and diatribe and Bojo’s Boys
can’t take what they like while ruling over us.
PS England doesn’t have the logistical problems of vaccinating all the islands and very remote lightly
populated farming communities.
Well Done Again Scotlands NHS doing the right thing!
Craig Murray’s blog today is astonishing. Murrell is one of the worst rogues in Scottish history, but the establishment is defending him all the way.
According to the health secretary they are still scoping out suitable locations for mass vaccination centres and don’t expect any to be open until early march
The Louisa Jordan is now being used as a mass vaccination centre – 5,000 a day from today.
An aside…. I knew Richard Lochhead, Andrew Wilson and Mike Russell back in the day and none of them struck me as being very keen on independence… politics was their profession.
I bet for snp graduations like them this is an awful time… trying to stop independence from happening during their career.
Kaeplmeister.
Yeah Craig Murray’s article exposes just how corrupt the LA and the Murrells are, the former is now in so deep that he’s no way out of it. I wonder if the inquiry brings down the Murrells will the LA topple as well, we need a whistleblower to come forward and out these bastards.
The LA and the COPFS are a laughing stock, and should be treated with the contempt they deserve Stasi bastards.
It used to be said that the Brutish Labour Party could put a red rossete on a donkey and the citizens of Scotland would still vote for it,
Brutish Labour Party are still putting up donkeys but the citizens of Scotland have become more educated and have moved on.
@Kapelmeister – the establishment is the legal profession and the judiciary.
In most democracies, perhaps all democracies, they are independent of government.
Not so in Scotland where James Wolffe has become very much the go-to man when parliamentarians feel themselves threatened by members of the proletariat.
Alex Salmond tried to separate the two when he was FM – look where it got him.
I would like to see Sturgeon next out the door but with the extent of the collusion being highlighted on Craig Murray’s blog, when will this ever happen?
Also like others, unless there is a plebiscite HE21, I will not vote SNP 1 and I have been voting SNP since the early 70s, if there was a candidate on the ballot
@Liz –
All at Holyrood would like for it never to happen. Hence the farcical Inquiry.
Thankfully however, Craig Murray, Rev Stu and the press will bring it to full view and very soon.
Effijy
There is a belief that jabs just hasten the death of those of advanced years. Expecting elderly immune systems to cope with an injection of a disease, for that is the principle of vaccination, the subject may not have had is playing russian roulette with their lives.
The deaths in Norway, albeit using the Pfizer vax, is indicative. The marketing of Covid vaccination as the golden bullet of immunity ought to be treated with a large dose of scepticism.
The eugenics theme in the promotion by the likes of Gates, in particular the trials in Africa, should give cause for alarm.
In countries with young populations Covid is no worse than flu, in the ageing ‘West’ it has acquired the nature of a plague.
The human race has survived for millennia owing to the natural acquisition of immunity which the « lockdown » has impeded. Darwini that may be but nature will out, nature performs better than any genetic cocktail confected in a lab.
However, pharma companies can’t make $€¥ out of that.
Yeah yeah yeah Bill Gates, eugenics death vaccine… Away an’ bile yer heid in a tinfoil basin, bedfoot furniture boy.
Cath says:
The Louisa Jordan is now being used as a mass vaccination centre – 5,000 a day from today.
My daughter in law, who is a care worker in an assisted living house, got her first jab there yesterday.
Hi Effijy at 5:36 pm.
You typed,
“ie a Single Glove being a piece of PPE Kit…”
These latex gloves are NOT sold in single pairs; they are supplied in boxes of 100, which fit either hand. I use them at work. So 10 boxes would, legitimately, be 1000 items, and so on.
Katherine Hamilton. You are absolutely correct with the logic of SNP and ISP or other.
One small problem is that the SNP under Sturgeon is promoting SNP 1 and 2 for narrow party partisan reasons. Not for nicola a super indy majority but rather a target of a slim majority if the constituency polls hold up.
Nor the removal of horde of unionist labour Conservative and lib dem seats. But as Councilor Mhairi Hunter actual said on Twitter we need to be fair to unionists!
Yep, SNP 1 and ISP 2 is good but only if we get the current leadership sorted. And sort it we will.
Douglas MacMillan says:
16 January, 2021 at 6:00 pm
“An aside…. I knew Richard Lochhead, Andrew Wilson and Mike Russell back in the day and none of them struck me as being very keen on independence… politics was their profession.
I bet for snp graduations like them this is an awful time… trying to stop independence from happening during their career.”
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I believe Lochhead is standing again in May Douglas unlike Mike Russel who is actually not standing again. I have at election after election put a peg on my nose and voted for Lochhead but not this May, never again. This will be the first time I haven’t voted SNP since the late 1970s. They have lost my constituency vote. It is Indy or nothing for me. I didn’t leave the SNP, they left me.
@Saffron Robe says:
16 January, 2021 at 3:08 pm
“Beaker, I like your analogy which is a good one, but what about Cambridge Analytica and the influencing of public opinion via social media? There seem to be pretty sophisticated means of influence and manipulation at work.”
Ooh, forgot about them. I was referring to inward social media messages, rather than the manipulation of outbound messages. Good point.
@Willie says:
16 January, 2021 at 7:05 pm
How about:
Vote 1 should be the party that was 3rd place in the last election in the constituency vote.
Vote 2 ISP.
I’ll let someone else do the calculations…
People are losing their shit out there. Billboards have ‘the new normal’ on them. Tech Companies are enforcing compelled speech for employees with creating lists of ‘negative words’ which cannot be used. Strangers are approaching strangers to enquire why their sledging kids are not at home doing on-line learning. Folks are wearing masks outdoors and alone in cars. Humanity is in very short supply – scotsrenewables would probably like it to be mandatory for Ottomanboi to be vaccinated.
That’s what’s going on out there.
It’s fucking terrifying.
Ocht ffs bipod.
Now you’re onto the vaccines to attack Scotland. Give it a rest ya clown will yi.
England has different population densities and we rely on thon Westmoster for vaccine supply ( a mistake as far I’m concerned) Should have ordered our own and feck Westmonster.
Also there’s a big hospital location in glasgow doing thousands a day right now ya rocket .Big pictures all over the bloody news.
Anyhow why the fuck do you care? Is just a wee flu to you so you won’t need it,! One less to worry about along with a few of your anti vaxxer mates.
Aye ‘the idiot’
Forced vaccines on clowns like you and all anti vaxxers and Trump supporters should sort out the world population problem. Job done, suits me.
If we listen to the solid SNP supporters of Nicola,they believe those that follow Wings and the likes of Craig Murray, are irrelevant and nothing but a minority.
They feel the opinion lolls may well indicate an SNP landslide in the election. Clearly they belive therefore that shutting up for Indy is important, without the slighest shred of evidence that Indy or even a referendum is actually going to be offered. All I have seen is the possibility of a Draft Bill discussion and I do check these things.
My reasoning therefore leads me to not voting SNP on the constituency, as they seem to think it is not required in any event but voting ISP on the list. Mighty oaks from little acorns etc. I will negate my constituency vote(Wishart).
If I and fellow Wingers and Salmond supporters views are expendable then so is my vote.
Public might find this information interesting re.virus context:
“The U.S. government has reason to believe that several researchers inside the WIV became sick in autumn 2019, before the first identified case of the outbreak, with symptoms consistent with both COVID-19 and common seasonal illnesses. This raises questions about the credibility of WIV senior researcher Shi Zhengli’s public claim that there was “zero infection” among the WIV’s staff and students of SARS-CoV-2 or SARS-related viruses.”:
https://www.state.gov/fact-sheet-activity-at-the-wuhan-institute-of-virology/
How come the people we pay to represent us get away with it you might ask?
Consider for a minute just how many of our MP’s & MSP’s owe their position (and their big fat salary) to quotas & nepotism? Too many are so happy with their well paid job that they’ll willingly toe the party line without question no matter what they happen to think about independence.
Ottomanboi says:
“The human race has survived for millennia owing to the natural acquisition of immunity which the ‘lockdown’ has impeded.”
I think there is a lot of truth in what you say Ottomanboi. On the one hand lockdown and the vaccination programme are trying to move us forward, on the other hand they are holding us back. That is why we are caught in a loop.
I went to the shops today and trying to apply logic and reason to the new restrictions is like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole – it just can’t be done. It is probably best not to try!
Tom Kane says:
16 January, 2021 at 8:23 am
We are going to need a strong Scottish Labour party very, very shortly.
The Labour movement in an independent Scotland is going to be a total riot! I can’t wait! Anyone who denies the Labour Theory of Value is getting heavy pelters!
M Woke alert. See Grousebeater tweet.
Grouse Beater (@Grouse_Beater) Tweeted: Alarm Klaxon
Am getting troubling messages ‘Man Is Woman’ careerists are regrouping to disrupt the National Assembly, and get inside parliament via the List votes.
The loud silence of their political cheerleaders is ominous.
@AlynSmith @NicolaSturgeon @StewartMcDonald https://t.co/wOJjZNaV7X https://twitter.com/Grouse_Beater/status/1350445472629071878?s=20
So much of this ongoing chatter about what to do with both our votes at the next Scottish Parliament election is pretty much pointless until specific manifestos are published by the Parties.
The circumstances Scotland finds itself in at this particular time, means there should be separation of the two processes that require to be dealt with.
1 : Determining who we vote for to be our next
GovernmentAdministration at Holyrood in control of the limited devolved powers that reside there, and the policies those Parties will implement.2 : Determining our mandated choice to vote on whether we should return to being a self-governing country.
It’s utter bollox that these two separate matters should be intertwined, as folk will be casting their votes for individuals and Parties for differing reasons, meaning the result isn’t a true democratic singular statement or mandate for anything.
“Vote for SNP to progress and implement Scotland returning to self governing status” – That sounds good! – Ballot Paper marked with an X for SNP
But…
“Vote for SNP to ignore that ^^^ and progress the implementation of genderwoowoo and free speech constraints, oh, and give tacit consent to continue the shitstate of affairs they are currently embroiled in)” – Fuck that! – Why even go to the polling station…
All this factional divisive crap that we are seeing from Fundies and Gradualists is because there has not be separation of the two significant matters that Scotland requires to be resolved in the near future.
Ok, own up people. Who fed the idiot the dried frog pills?
Saffron Robe and Ottomanboi .
Why don’t you find a time machine somewhere and go live in your alternate
reality and give us all peace. Things have moved on and we tend to try carefully stop viruses and disease in the mordern day. We don’t tend to rely on witch doctors and religious freaks to help these days.
Elite Panic may well kill more than the virus.
Certainly, a society with no health service, can expect to see an upsurge in preventable deaths.
The Alarmists and Drama Queens seem to be getting their way.
Meanwhile, in a coordinated effort, 30,000 restaurants in Italy all conspired to open at the same time yesterday, in a direct show of defiance. People on the side of lockdown will not be judged well by history. Many years from now, a lot of people are going to find themselves lying to their grand-kids.
Saffron Robe/Ottomanboi
Some more context:
“BBC (2013): Why does being lonely make you ill?”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-21517864
“NHS (2015): Loneliness ‘may affect the immune system”
https://www.nhs.uk/news/mental-health/loneliness-may-affect-the-immune-system/
ayrshire rob
simple question then, should be a yes or a no.
Do you support mandatory vaccinations?
Bipod, Idiot Ottomanboi
Agree with you.
Throughout time, there have been all sorts of natural disasters, plagues, you name it which have thinned out and refreshed the human race.
In the grand scheme of things, Covid is a trifle.
The problem today is that everybody can’t accept death as the only certainty in life. We all seem to want eternal life and, if it goes wrong, there has to be someone to blame – politicians!!
Understandably, they do anything to keep the death rate down even at the expense of everything else.
Time to accept a higher death rate and get living again.
O/T apologies, but I see #cosyfeetPete is having a bit of a melt down on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/PeteWishart/status/1350536901237858309
He’s calling for an investigation in to the “outside interests” who helped in the St Andrew’s Day massacre of his woke Wahhabi chums in the NEC.
Strange that he never felt the need to call for investigations about the entryism of the gender woo extremists and the abuse of his colleagues?
I love the fact also that he spends most of his time on twitter bemoaning the influence of SNPBad bloggers and how they’re a threat to independence one minute, then insisting that they’re in a bubble and nobody listens to them.
One might almost think he had Lord Foulkes’ problem…?
I am glad they finally found a use for NHS louisa white elephant jordan, about time if you ask me. NHS Scotland can’t be so overwhelmed if they can turn the whole place over for vaccinations.
I am not against the vaccine but I do think covid hysteria has been massively overhyped. Mass vaccination seems to be the only thing now that will return the people to their senses so that we can end the lockdowns and restrictions so it needs to be done as fast as possible, every single month of this is wiping billions off the economy and ruining society.
I was just pointing out that we have an election coming up in may and if England (or any of the other nations in the UK for that matter) is able to vaccinate a substantially larger proportion of its population than Scotland then it isn’t going to play so well for the SNP, the comparisons will be inevitable. And don’t give me that population density nonsense the vast majority of the population lives in the central belt and east coast.
Saffron “ I went to the shops today and trying to apply logic and reason to the new restrictions is like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole…”
I’ve never understood that phrase. Depending on the relative sizes involved, it ought to be easy to put a square peg in a round hole.
And I don’t see what’s complicated about the restrictions as far as going to shops is concerned. I refuse to spell something so basic out.
Moaning isn’t a viable alternative to developing a real personality. And more people would moan if there were no restrictions and no lockdown.
The same people who moan about lockdown are typically the ones that are moaning about the vaccine. They don’t need to take the vaccine, but still they moan about it.
Death rate in Sweden (no lockdown, but sensible measures to protect the vulnerable) sits at 0.099% of population.
UK with Her lockdown madness is 0.129%
Not exactly the stuff of nightmares.
And we are incapable of having a grown up conversation about how to get this thing into perspective.
There is zero evidence lockdowns work. Zero. And the evidence is now pointing in the opposite direction.
Do you know how many of the vaccinations have been forwarded onto Scotland ? Thought not bipod!, so we have no idea what kind of perfomance the vaccine program is taking in Scotland. Do you really think Matt Hancock is giving us the details- naw didn’t think so.
That’s why he was pissed wae Jean Freeman the other day on some sort of numbers she said was in Scotland or sumit. It was quickly taken down from scot gov site apparently, so no idea what we’ve been given up here of our legitimate share.
Hatuey
How sure are you that people will have a choice about taking the vaccine?
To keep everyone else ‘safe’ those who refuse it will be denied access to flights, theatres, cinemas, supermarkets and possibly even medical care. This is the conversation as SARS2 mutates (completely normal for a virus experiencing herd immunity) with Politicians warning of ‘regular vaccines’, even twice per year.
If anyone takes the view that that is their own choice – that those who refuse should experience social exclusion and punishment – fine, so long as they know what that makes them.
Many a blind eye was turned after the Allies rolled across Europe.
@Beaker says:
16 January, 2021 at 8:00 pm
Ok, own up people. Who fed the idiot the dried frog pills?
Bursaaaar!!
I am glad they finally found a use for NHS louisa white elephant jordan, about time if you ask me
Pay attention. It’s been in use for months for routine surgery and training of nurses.
Beaker says:
16 January, 2021 at 7:16 pm
How about:
Vote 1 should be the party that was 3rd place in the last election in the constituency vote.
Vote 2 ISP.
I’ll let someone else do the calculations…
Dear god no. In my constituency that would mean voting for the Tories! Better I spoil my first vote and risk Willie Rennie getting back in.
Bipod. You’re wrong again. The Louise Jordan has been getting used for months on certain out patient treatments and also training nurses and health care workers. Don’t let the facts get in the way eh.
There is NO FUCKING DATA that lockdown mitigations DON’T WORK is more the point.
That’s for you too ya clown ‘the idiot’t
Once upon a time a few Doctors/Clinical Professionals were worried that the over use of anti biotics could lead to more resistant bacterial strains. People laughed at them and called them fools.
Let’s say vaccines are 100% bullet-proof safe and effective and 50% of people take them and 50% of people don’t.
When a much more deadly SARS3 surfaces in ten to 15 years with a serious kill rate of ten to 20% of the worlds population. Who do we think would survive it? And I am genuinely open-minded about that one.
@
Saffron Robe says:
16 January, 2021 at 7:46 pm
“…is like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole – it just can’t be done.”
It can. You need a bigger hammer.
ayrshire rob
There is no evidence either way, although Sweden teaches us something, surely.
The burden of proof, for removing peoples liberty and freedom never before seen, lays with those effecting that change.
People cannot worship their God, nor hold the hands of their dying loved ones.
But I am guessing you think that’s ok.
and please answer my question re mandatory vaccines….
Sheesh….we finally rid BTL here of roaster like Spameron Brodie, immediately improving the quality and flow of just about every thread, and now we have to wade through screeds of anti vax flat earthers.
Let’s hope it doesn’t take months and reach the 30% of every thread, eh lads….?
Distraction ,distraction ,distraction.
I see NHS louisa jordan every day and these past few months it has always looked like a big empty building to me, very quiet place.
But of course of course they are doing training there. I want to know how many outpatients have been seen there each month and how many nurses have been trained there. It seems like an awfully big building to lease out to do some training in. I stand by my white elephant comment.
But it is a good location for a mass vaccination centre.
My bet the next Labour leader will be Gordon Brown. I said well over a year ago they’d draft in someone for FM. I can’t be a Tory because of reasons we all know. I think they thought of Swinson for a while but that didn’t work so it’s Brown.
Then they will burn Nicola who has been exposed and is at the end of her usefulness. Her recent loses of authority on MSP selections, NEC elections and six words amendment probably had them worried anyway.
This will dominate the May campaign along with GRA and Hate Crimes which have been nicely set up as wedge issues.
Gordon is a pro and will be a difficult opponent. He’ll get as much favourable press coverage – wall to wall – as he wants.
Labour will be energized and the Yes campaign totally despondent.
SNP voters will be horrified by NS’s fall from grace but will still be trying to come to terms with it during the campaign which leads to irrational behaviour: Not voting, voting Labour or Tory
The unionists scrape a narrow win and Brown takes over to wean Scotland off Indy
The End and it will be unless something changes
Aye, nice try with the vaccine thing idiot. Trying to get me down the personal attack route for the Rev are you? Tell yi wit. Next indy march I’ll tell yi, hows that?
Sweden to be fair have some pretty nice folk that weren’t stupid like we are here in UK. They did have mitigations and actually followed them. The model they adopted is now been seen as flawed and a lot are not happy with the health minister, not sure if he’s still there.
In Sweden, they keep apart and comply mostly with simple rules unlike the eegits here.Also, again one city Stockholm has most cases and deaths. It’s pretty simple arithmetic at end of day. Stay away from folk or take simple precautions and you’re unlikely to get it.
Wonder if some of you ever taught your kids the green cross code. Stay away from big moving trucks is a good rule.
“…a big empty building…”
It’s better to have it available but empty than to have it full of ill people, isn’t it?
@AYRSHIRE ROB
Regarding Sweden (and probably Finland too), the joke doing the rounds is:- “Are you going to keep to the 2m distancing rules once we’re past this?” “No we’ll go back to the usual 5…”
@ Andy Ellis
It’s interesting seeing his take on things.
It was only paid up SNP members that could nominate those putting themselves up for selection onto NEC, it was only paid up SNP members that became paying delegates that could vote those nominated folk into positions on the NEC.
In the past he didn’t complain when a lot of folk mobilised to influence the outcome, yet last time it was an issue that requires investigating…
He really needs to acknowledge that the reason for the recent awakening and engagement of SNP members in the Party’s internal processes such as the MSP Candidate selections, NEC Nominations and Voting, and Lamont Sex / Gender Word Amendment matter, is a direct response of the members expressing their dissatisfaction with the trajectory the Party was on.
The fact of the matter is the Branches, CAs, and Head Office send out little if anything at all regarding information on potential candidates and the policy positions they hold.
So there was little if any engagement from the wider uninformed membership in days gone by, but as events have unfolded in recent years, the electorate and membership have become far more alert and knowledgeable on political matters through sources outwith the SNP, because of the vacuum they created.
The Party’s centralised power base and its seeming inability to read the room is why we find ourselves where we are.
All the signs have been made for long enough on here for anyone with a semblance of political expediency to recognise, but it seems our supposed brightest and best just weren’t receptive to taking much if any of it onboard.
ayrshire rob
no idea what you’re talking about with the personal attack thing.
I hear this a lot – usually from cops and ex-cops – that it’s all the stupit eijits fault. The commoner is to blame.
I take the view people are the same the World over.
Terrified people like you, terrify people like me.
@Derek
Yes of course, another view is that it was an unnecessary extravagance at a time when the NHS was supposedly strapped for resources especially personnel.
@ Derek says:
16 January, 2021 at 8:53 pm
@
Saffron Robe says:
16 January, 2021 at 7:46 pm
“…is like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole – it just can’t be done.”
It can. You need a bigger hammer.
Or a more malleable peg.
Derek
LJ is not empty. It is multi use and a National asset, not just for NHS GGC. It is being used, thankfully just not for it’s intended purpose.
Yet again- Norway and Finland population equal to Sweden.
Swedish Death rate 8 times higher.
They are neighbours
Bipod @9.05pm
Bipod.
The Louisa Jordan has been used for a while now for multiple clinics.
@ahundredthidiot says:
16 January, 2021 at 8:51 pm
“Once upon a time a few Doctors/Clinical Professionals were worried that the over use of anti biotics could lead to more resistant bacterial strains. People laughed at them and called them fools.”
Antibiotics work differently to vaccines.
Comparing the two is like comparing the levels of intelligence between a Labrador and you. The dog wins.
Isn’t Louisa Jordan being used as a mass vax centre for initially NHS staff trying to do 5000 vaccines a day starting today?
Not that I think the vaccines will be anywhere near as effective as pfizer/ AZ/ fda’s think/hope.
Thank you again, Chris. Labour’s talent pool is now a puddle.
Your essential weekend reading:
A great Scot now relevant again, and Murrell dissected.
‘Dr James Niven’: https://wp.me/p4fd9j-pq4
‘Unfurling Murrell’: https://wp.me/p4fd9j-pod
Beaker
That doesn’t make any sense. I am not comparing vaccines to anti biotics, I am making the point that this is manmade intervention versus nature. A point you have evidentially missed.
We don’t even know how long humans have been around for crying out loud. Vaccines and anti biotics are like 2 seconds old. Nature has been shaping humans for donkeys years.
Will folk please stop comparing Scotland with Finland, Israel, Sweden, Norway and Denmark etc.
We’re NOT BLOODY INDEPENDENT They are.
We’re fighting this Covid with our hands tied behind our backs and somebody’s hand in our pockets!!
Effijy
If your point is that they are neighbours, then you would be correct.
Or you could go look at the top 25 Countries in the World for deaths per million. You can then make the percentage from that.
The numbers of people dying from COVID are tiny. Not irrelevant, certainly tragic and every one of them a human being, but tiny nonetheless.
Elite Panic will cause far more damage in the long run.
Sarah@ 12:34.
Thanks for the clarification and credit to Geoff Bush.
I did a search for SNP Members for Indy FB page but only found a couple of comments saying it was a fishing expedition for membership number and branch name. It may have been reported and taken down or my search skills suck.
I let my SNP membership lapse because well, reasons. The cost of all the begging letters must surely been more than my membership dues and seemed counter-productive.
Been thinking about setting up a “SNP Members Against Indy” FB page and sending invites to all the usual suspects. Just for shitz and giggles.
Question, IANAL and my memory is fuzzy:
Wasn’t NS supposed to give evidence at the Salmond trial but excused herself as she was too ‘busy’? Are all witnesses summoned to trials or can they just volunteer and show up… or not, at their own whim? If she was indeed summoned then did not show, should there not be repercussions from either the judge or COPFS…? Contempt I would like to think.
Anyone? Apologies in advance if the above is just something my big fat brain made up.
The Dunfermline guy that was in court this week for outing two of the Alphabetties did nobody any favours, especially Alex and himself. Someone on here last week said the dox should be leaked to WikiLeaks… funny as I did a quick search there a while back and found nothing.
Considering the person involved in an upcoming court case, if they or Alex wanted this information leaked it would be up there already.
I’ve figured out who a couple of them are from easily available information- Garavelli and others quoting Garavelli. Surely Lady Dorrian has to come around and quash the anonymity ruling soon.
Hindered idiots.
I have no idea what you tried to say but Sweden regrets not taking action
like their neighbours did.
They did take major steps in the end but their initial no action sees them worse off
than many other nations who did.
Their economy is battered too just like most are.
When restrictions are applied, there is a steady fall in mortality rates!
That’s it!
Guernsey seemed to have cracked it. Lockdown for few months. Closed pubs/ shops and borders.
Now partying like nobody’s business!
Vaccines and anti biotics are like 2 seconds old.
Antibiotics are produced by Bacteria which have been around for quite some time…….
Here we go again with the carrot dangling on a stick ,
Tomorrow’s front page from the Sunday National
“ EXCLUSIVE: SNP to launch independence taskforce to fire up next Yes campaign “
https://twitter.com/SunScotNational/status/1350560207269752835?s=20
.
I wonder if they’ve found the * interwoven funds * yet or will they be launching yet another fundraiser .
Among his normal grumbles ahundredthidiot complains that the Covid restrictions means that people cannot worship God.
Why would that be?
I’m an atheist but I know that Jesus is quoted as saying “Where two or three are gathered together in my name I am with you”. So you don’t need a large congregation to worship God.
Worship away, and you may feel better for it, but keep your distance.
@ Studhog: SNP Members for Indy is definitely not a fishing expedition but coincidentally today on there somebody was raising that issue. Coincidence or the usual suspects?
You are right – NS was called by the defence but the court accepted her request not to attend “because covid”. Absolutely ludicrous and it does make one wonder about the court’s impartiality, sadly.
I think he means the ‘lord of light’ from Game of Thrones series. Maybe he should phone Melisandre for advice.
@ Studhog: I should have said that SNP Members for Independence is a private Facebook page so perhaps that’s why you couldn’t access it? I’m not a tech person so I don’t know but it might be the explanation.
fireproofjim
Actually, I am quite suspicious of organised religion, but appreciate that some peoples lives revolve around their Church and their Faith – without it, their lives become dark and empty.
and don’t tell me, or anyone else for that matter, to keep my distance. Who do you think you are…..
“Unconscionable madness”
Once upon a time you could make a facetious comment just for for the lulz and know everyone would get it…
Meh, my fault.
*Sigh, read the room Iain, read the room.
Here’s the link to the SNP Members for Independence on Facebook ,
https://m.facebook.com/groups/3595178527169350/
.
Chris,
You have a genius about you and what you do.
Why?
Well I just realised that…
* I will a NOT vote for a party that wants to bring in 1984 legislation prosribing what Hamza the Creep decides is lawful.
* I will NOT vote for a party that promises IndyRef2 by Nicola BlinkyLieMeter Sturgeon and then squanders FIVE mandates from us to do just that.
* I definitely will NOT vote for a party who has it’s fingerprints over the disgusting effort to jail a formerly First Minister for political reasons just to keep him from blowing the whistle on the Sturgeonite cabal.
Funny cartoon and tragic result. The realization that the current SNP are something I cannot vote for.
There is NO political party in Scotland that I can vote for ALEX SALMOND PLEASE SPCOME BACK.
I did not leave Labour – Labour left me.
I did not leave the SNP. The SNP left me.
One last thing, can nobody in the ordinary decent foot soldier ranks of the SNP see that Labour’s demise as THE part of Scotland was so utterly fast and awesomely complete within about 11 months.
If the electorate can be so pissed off at Labour so fast and so absolutely, what on earth do you think voters will do when they find out what disgusting things the current SNP Sturgeonite McWokeist Coven have been up to.
——————-
Main quote with thanks to Chris Cairns and Davie Oga.
David Oga says…
16 January, 2021 at 7:30 am
As a small n nationalist I would obviously abstain or spoil, but if I were forced to vote, I would vote for a party led by Reinhardt Leopold before I would vote for the monstrosity that is the current incarnation of Scotgov.
SLAB’s Leotard was a non entity, but giving the levers of power, I have no doubt that he wouldn’t have sunk to the levels of depravity shown by blinky and pals
“These communications detail their unsuccessful attempts to find
witnesses who would corroborate allegations of inappropriate behaviour against
Alex Salmond. They include a report of a meeting with young people who were
small children at the time of the incident they were seeking to allege, who did not
provide the corroboration sought.”
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2021/01/only-a-corrupt-lord-advocate-stands-between-peter-murrell-and-prison/
@MaggieC says:
16 January, 2021 at 11:29 pm
“Here we go again with the carrot dangling on a stick ,
Tomorrow’s front page from the Sunday National
“ EXCLUSIVE: SNP to launch independence taskforce to fire up next Yes campaign “”
The donkey/carrot cartoon has been posted already 🙂
For taskforce read committee. So the first meeting will likely to set the agenda for the next meeting, where they will discuss policies to be agreed at the next meeting, which will…
Wonder if any of the media will dare to ask her about this on Monday.
“SLAB’s Leotard was a non entity, but giving the levers of power, I have no doubt that he wouldn’t have sunk to the levels of depravity shown by blinky and pals”
Well Leotard belongs to the british labour party so I’m afraid davie Oga was talking shite on that occasion.
Why doesn’t the ISP stand candidates in the seats of some of the worst offenders? I nominate Sturgeon and Humza Youssef. That gives disgruntled SNP supporters a rival independence candidate to give their vote to. Plus party members in those seats must be getting restive too and could probably be convinced to campaign against NS and HY in order to cleanse the party of this evil cabal. Just the announcement of the challenge may put a shiver down the spines (assuming they have one) of all the MSPs currently sitting on the fence too cowed to stand up to Sturgeon. I’ll bet there is a lot of resentment there at the Sturrell’s dictatorial rule that could erupt if given a push.
Independence Task Force.
Fucking unbelievable.
Is that so far off the mark?
ISP should also stand in the constituency against Angus Robertson as well @StuartM says at 12:28 am
The best analogy is that of a sieve and water. No matter how much we tighten the spars of the sieve, the water will still get through; and that is the situation we now find ourselves in with the virus circulating in the general population.
The point of failure came at the very beginning. There was absolutely NO attempt made by the government to seal the borders, both internally and externally. If the borders had been sealed properly then the virus would have been eradicated and we would find ourselves in the same position as other countries like New Zealand. Instead all we can do now is firefight.
And the government’s incompetence has forced all our eggs into the one basket of a safe and effective vaccine. If the vaccine proves to be effective then it is our only route out of lockdown but it still has to be administered. Can we trust the government to administer a programme of vaccination effectively when it has singularly botched everything else? The omens are not good.
We are really suffering from government incompetency on a colossal scale with tragic consequences which will continue long into the future.
@Saffron Robe –
More power to ye for continuing to raise a voice of Reason.
😉
ahundredthidiot says:
scotsrenewables would probably like it to be mandatory for Ottomanboi to be vaccinated.
His perogative, but the selfish cunt can keep out of my space.
Vaccination is normal, I used to have to carry vaccination certificates when travelling to various countries. Vaccination has saved millions of lives.
My eldest son is profoundly deaf and has mild cerebral palsy because his mum never got the MMR vaccine at school and she was exposed to rubella while pregnant.
If Ottybotty infects just one person because he is a paranoid selfish fool then hell mend him.
The fannies that still use this website to discuss anything other than Sturgeon Bad is disturbing.
They are advised to use the Wee Gingerbread Man’s website, but they keep returning to the annoyance of everyone.
The chap ayrshire robbie is a particular pest.
Do us all a favour robbie, take a hike.
StuartMs suggestion that ISP put up a candidate against
Angus Robertson amongst others seems a great idea.Speaking for myself ,Im a member and former activist in Edinburgh central and not at all happy with the way that Robertson was imposed on us .I had been going to withhold my vote but if ISP were to put up a candidate I would certainly vote for them.
ahundredthidiot says:
16 January, 2021 at 8:32 pm
There is zero evidence lockdowns work. Zero. And the evidence is now pointing in the opposite direction.
God you do drivel some utter pish, idiot.
There is plenty of evidence lockdowns work from inter-City comparisons during the Spanish Flu pandemic
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/03/how-cities-flattened-curve-1918-spanish-flu-pandemic-coronavirus/
Give it a rest!
They can shove their Oxford vaccine up their arse.
And the new English virus sweeping the world will probably make all vaccines useless.
And the 12 week gap between jabs will again make these vaccines useless.
So all in all, wee Nicola’s lockdowns are here for the long term.
Watch out for the Sturgeon one cancelling the Holyrood election
“ EXCLUSIVE: SNP to launch independence taskforce to fire up next Yes campaign “
Fair to assume that someone in Sturgeon’s Nasty Party HQ has had a gander at this site and Twitter and has suddenly developed a dose of the scour.
Time to throw us dogs a bone in the form of the usual hollow words and false promises of jam tomorrow.
Never mind nasty Nic, look folks! An Indy squirrel!
@George Rutherford says:
17 January, 2021 at 1:11 am
“They can shove their Oxford vaccine up their arse.
And the new English virus sweeping the world will probably make all vaccines useless.”
Can we stop this shite about “English virus”.
I note that you haven’t mentioned Brazil’s or South Africa’s versions, both of which could be worse.
If you can’t have a discussion without resorting to the Blackford and Wishart angry style of debate, then go and join Laurence Fox on Twitter.
And take bipod and the idiot with you.
George Rutherford says:
17 January, 2021 at 1:11 am
They can shove their Oxford vaccine up their arse.
I hope you dont need it one day CLYDE.
Amd the only fanny here is you.
UCSF’s Dr. George Rutherford Answers COVID-19 Questions
Saffron @ 12.47
That’s all fine. We agree. But it isn’t an argument for ending lockdown, quite the opposite, and it’s certainly not an argument against the vaccine.
Revstu is going to have to up his game if he wants to keep his position as the leading Scotspol website. While he was resting on the laurels of Chris’s cartoon yesterday, Craig Murray has come up with an absolute bombshell of an article…
Seriously, I can’t wait for the WOS take on this.
MaggieC says:
16 January, 2021 at 11:29 pm
Here we go again with the carrot dangling on a stick ,
Tomorrow’s front page from the Sunday National
“ EXCLUSIVE: SNP to launch independence taskforce to fire up next Yes campaign “
https://twitter.com/SunScotNational/status/1350560207269752835?s=20
.
Check your notes please. Did they say ‘Fire it up?’ or didn’t the actually say burn it down?
And can we use the word “EXCLUSIVE”? ‘Cos by uncanny coincidence, we’re also getting a task force set up to trade with Ireland.
https://archive.is/QnkFA
I dunno, you wait, and wait for a Task Force to come along, then two come along at once. Sigh!
It could be the same task force of course I suppose, a kind of ‘general purpose’ multi-roll Task Force or maybe we’re just being bullshitted again, and left hand bullshitting doesn’t know what the right hand bullshitting is doing…
Truth be known, when the SNP thinks setting up a Task Force is being progressive, my heart sinks, because it’s ‘read-between-the-lines code’ for doing nothing. It means treating May as a plebiscite election, the last hope for many of us, isn’t even on the agenda being thought about. That NEC which hasn’t discussed Independence for 18 months? Well it finally has, and their dynamic all conquering plan to stem the revolt of the malcontents is ‘setting up a task force’.
Why not light the fuse and declare May to be a plebiscite election? Cowards.
Why not declare a Constitutional State of Emergency?
Why not petition the UN or EU to issue a statement condemning Scotland’s subjugation?
Why not dispute Brexit as UK colonialism?
Why not declare the Treaty of Union breached and broken in spirit?
Why not pretend you’re trying to defend our Nation?
Nah. Let’s be really radical and form a
committeeTask Force…. err,.. or two.Look on the task force bright side guys. If I was on that “task force”, the very first thing I would do is ask for access to the £500,000 ring-fenced fund for the next referendum campaign…
Hhhmmm…..an independence task force now, the rabbits must be getting fat on all these pointless carrots. Funny how they have no brass neck in bodyswerving the only and most obvious solution-calling a plebiscite. What a farce!!!!
Look a squirrel!
Look two squirrels!
My squirrel is bigger than your squirrel.
Oh no it’s not! Oh yes…
Oh shit I thought panto season was over. Look out behind you!!
Huh, a Task Force eh?
Well, I can only agree with those being cynical. The SNP are wasting our time – and it’s OUR time they are wasting, because they should have done much more long before now. Are they so very incapable? I don’t believe that, they’ve just made zero effort – and why should they when they’ve trapped everyone into voting for them come what may, no wonder they object so strongly to other pro-independence parties. If the SNPs very being was truly aimed at independence, they’d welcome any and every independence support there was: not be shutting them all down and de-fanging every effort there is. (For example ‘split the vote’ rhetoric, because as soon as other parties get MSPs into Holyrood, those parties gain some amount of power… Even if they aren’t numerous enough to force the SNP to do anything).
I just don’t do blackmail, emotional or otherwise, and I will not vote for the SNP in their current form – because a vote is a sign of support for what they stand for, and support of what they’ve done, and what they’ve done is lie and work against my best interests (which is independence and transparency & fairness in government)… unless there is a plebiscite election in May and the person standing for that mandate in my constituency happens to be an SNP candidate.
Everyone needs to make their own decision, where to draw their own lines, and we are stuck between a rock & a hard place when it comes to voting SNP, we need an option that indicates support for independence – not a dud list that gives a minor variation on establishment conforming candidates – but we may not get that option. The SNP are total bastards for putting us in this position, and I’m furious with them. Don’t know why they don’t put a blank space with a box, so I can write down my own choice while voting.
I’ll be doing my damnest to make sure there is either a change of leadership in the SNP or it’s made a plebiscite election in May before the GE, though.
Finally !! After all our agitation and polemic , our despairing cries to ” DO SOMETHING ” !! our pleas are answered – a Task Force is being set-up , Lord Have Mercy !! Free at last , free at last .
Really , is this the best the geniuses at Hopeless Towers can come up with to placate the clamour for concerted , bold action to save our country ? A fuckn Task Force ?
Don’t know whether to weep at the sheer inadequacy , the insultingly obvious sleight-of-hand , ” throw the malcontents a bone ” trickery of this latest wheeze , or guffaw loudly , turn the page and consign the current SNP management ( it just doesn’t qualify as Leadership ) to the pile marked ” Abject Failure “
Thanks to CW reminding me, I cant help thinking this task force will go the same way as their promises of Universal Basic Income, a ‘Green Deal’, a National Energy Company, universal childcare, ‘affordable housing’, closing the education attainment gap, a Poverty Tsar, land reform, open government, local democracy, Council Tax reform or a ‘revolution in care’. ie Nowhere other than in some rags headlines.
Under the voting system, anyone able to predict what might happen if a sizable number of people did not use their 1st vote and voted for say, ISP with their 2nd vote?
Asking cos after reading Mr. Murrys blog this morning, I’m fast approaching the point where I believe a vote for SNP is not only a wasted vote for independence but actually a vote for a right wing totalitarian regime.
@Anne 1.03pm
I was (briefly) a member of Edinburgh Central too when we first moved back up to Scotland after being an overseas member for a few years. I was actually looking forward to getting involved and making a contribution, as I’d never been a member of any party. Before leaving in disgust over the party’s treatment of (Gareth Wardell) Grouse Beater I attended a few events and the folk seemed friendly enough. I often wonder what “ordinary” members think about the current state of the party?
Like you, there is no way I’ll vote for Robertson in May. If there is no pro-indy alternative I will spoil my ballot, but I’d certainly consider voting for an ISP candidate or qualified independent candidate instead.
The last Task Force toa chieve its objective was the one Maggie sent off to retake the Falklands.
Maggie never blinked, which does not fill me with confidence over these latest attempts to bolster the ego of our blinking First Minister.
Code Name: s30
An SNP Task Force. HaHa.
What they’ve got in reality is an SNP Ask Force.
Please Mr. Johnson can we have a referendum?
Imagine. Yearsvhave passed and only now are we setting up a “task force” for Independence. What exactly are these warriors who man the task force going to do ?
By that I mean actually what js the time frame for its activities?. One year ?. Two years ? Is it only how to obtain section 30 ?
I can only draw the conclusion that the SNP know the electorate are slowly becoming aware and are having to try and be seen as serious about Independence.
Throw them a lure and they wil! bite like a trout.
Many will. The more rational will see it for what it is.
If Rev and Craig. have the right story about them sending someone to jail to neuter him then they would have no compunction whatsoever in telling us some comforting lies to keep us on board..
This is more a Dardanelles than Falklands type of task force.
D Day approaches for the SNP.
NDLS@8.44.
I think your comments and those of an earlier blogger about Angus Robertson reflect the reality that their will be no chance of Robertson winning the Edinburgh Central seat.
His alignment with the Sturgeon clique, his participation in the NEC plan to stop Joanna Cherry standing for the Edinburgh Central seat, the closeness to ex Bute House SPAD Miss JD and now Mrs JR all mark him as someone who will absolutely not secure election.
Frankly, who in their right minds would want sordid rotten goods like Angus Robertson as their MSP.
Commander in chief for the Task Force? Blackford surely?
Nothing quite as rousing as the old Blackford “We will not be” gambit.
I’m certainly looking forward with great relish to not voting for Angus Robertson…
@Willie 9.26am
The more I’ve seen of him, the less I like. I suppose it depends on who the opposition is to an extent. Given brexit, it ought to have been a shoo-in but I suspect he will have lost a proportion of his natural supporters due to the successful plot to keep Cherry out. I suspect Cherry would have slammed it: I’d definitely have voted for her, but I won’t vote for Angus.
The outcome of the elections will be interesting for many reasons of course. In particular, if he and some of the woke Wahhabi retreads from the old NEC get in this May, it will suggest that the St Andrew’s Day Massacre was a flash in the pan, and that we are in for at least 5 more years of gradualist stasis.
Angus MacNeil was right in his tweet the other day: either the fundies in the party make their move and ensure #HR2021 is a plebiscite, or we might as well all reconcile ourselves to using the time until 2026 to construct a “real” independence party.
It really is that stark a choice in my view.
Folk like Joanna Cherry, Angus MacNeil, Kenny MacAskill and Alex Salmond will have to come clean after May 2021. If the gradualists win a majority and do SFA for the next 5-10 years, what are they going to do? Do they stay and bang their heads against the wall of devolutionary trimmers in charge of the party, or do something positive and construct a force that actually believes independence can only be taken, not asked for?
Ian Brotherhood at 12.29am
Spot on, Ian.
Is it the Scottish Independence Task Force or the Independence Task Force of Scotland?
Because the former are a bunch of splitters.
Well said Andy Ellis @ 9:46am. Not only will independence be pushed aside (again) but all their energy will be diverted to achieving a genderist dystopia, maintained by Yousaf’s authoritarian hate crime laws.
Been thinking about my recent comments when I’ve described Alex Salmond’s evidence predicament as Kafkaesque. I mean, it absolutely is, but you can’t let the matter rest at cynicism. It’s not enough to be angry.
This isn’t isn’t a nightmare fiction, neither Orwell’s ‘1984k nor Kafka’s ‘The Trial’… This is real. This is Scotland in the 21st Century with Scotland’s Lord Advocate and the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal’s Service is running interference to protect in situ, Sturgeon’s coven of lying and corrupt staffers, politicians, and malicious conspirators, and isn’t just threatening to prosecute anyone who demands to expose the truth, but it is already actually doing it.
Surely this means the Lord Advocate himself is up to his neck in this, and the whole population of this rotten conspiracy is facing extraordinary compunction to hang together, because otherwise they will assuredly be hung individually, and it’s looking like quite a drop.
As Conspiracies go, it is my objective belief the intricacies and ‘reach’ of this Conspiracy to lynch Alex Salmond, from the gutter to the loftiest heights of power, is shaping up to challenge Watergate as the granddaddy political conspiracy of them all.
Scotland is the proverbial “truth” that is stranger than fiction… literally.
I also stumbled across a poignant reminder in a comment (I think it was on Craig Murray’s blog) that Chris Huhne and Vicky Pryce were jailed for eight months for lying about who was driving the car when it got a speeding ticket.
When it’s 8 months in the big hoos just for telling porkies about a speeding ticket, just imagine what awaits and individuals found guilty of a vindictive, lynch mob conspiracy to stitch up an innocent man and see him sent to jail as a sex offender.
They don’t even have the luxury of throwing a scapegoat to the baying wolves because even one admission, or just a leak too far, and their world is going to come crashing down. And maybe, dare I speculate or even say the words, maybe that is why James Wolffe QC and Lord Advocate can’t resign over the malicious prosecution of Rangers Directors… The conspiracy to trump all others cannot afford to lose it’s goalkeeper or the game is over.
Must be such a load on their crooked minds eh? Tick, tock. Tick tock..
In the corridors of power, Scotland has it’s own take on the “Me too” movement… “Ir youz aw gawn tae jail fur pervertin’ the course of justice? …Aye, me too.”
Scottish independence has in my view ceased to be the burning issue.
The Sars-CoV2 panic has exposed the nature of government, democracy, serious concerns over free speech and its curtailment by global media platforms as the torrid topic.
The SNP régime ticks all the anti-democratic boxes. In that it is not alone for self-styled democratic systems are imploding worldwide, promoting fear and health safety concerns as the rational for suspending the basic civil right to free association.
Universities have effectively ceased to operate in any « normal » fashion. Education has taken second place to staying safe from a « mutating bug », all very cheap sci-fi movie.
Being cash strapped, universities will need bale outs from government, placing their independence from political interference in jeopardy. In the US campus life is restricted by fear, that word again, of prosecution for « hate speech » which means every academic discipline is fare game for « redaction ».
Independence under the current, dare I say, global neo-fascist dispensation, would be like opening one cage to step into another,
Scotland requires a party dedicated to freedom, a restart from zero for the concept of independence and what that authentically signifies.
If you seek « safety » then don’t bother.
I used to love this site for it’s lively positive posts in favour of Scottish Independence.
Not anymore, too many small minded posters who sem to have the vision and patience of a very small angry midge.
Interesting article from Mandy Rhodes https://www.holyrood.com/editors-column/view,what-about-the-women
I think thats the first mainstream article thats put some criticism at Sturgeon’s doorstep. Perhaps the tide turning?
“ EXCLUSIVE: SNP to launch independence taskforce to fire up next Yes campaign “
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Dear O dear, it’s so tired and unoriginal, if a regime with no impetus is devoid of ideas and feels exposed, it clothes itself in “lets set up a Committee”!
It is a sign that it knows it is wounded and vulnerable, but it can’t escape from its comfortable moribund state.
If it still had life it would announce a refreshing change in policy.
“Setting up a Committee” is an admittance that it is really dead.
@gullane04 10.27am
Sounds more like projection on your part.
Times and circumstances change. Those who think we should just keep doing the same thing regardless of such change need to realise they’ll have some explaining to do when their inability to change results in failure.
How time flies! I remember in the seventies that brilliant public service response to anything you did not want to deal with or you knew you did not have the wit to deal with was to declare a task force.
Best of all give it an acronym like Fast Action Response Team* or Crucial Unit National Taskforce or best of all Scottish Local Enterprise Energising People.
Do that for a few weeks and your critics will go away and grumble about something else.
*Yes it was used in 1970’s by Strathclyde Police when it had a future Labour Party Secretary as its boss.
A task force . Whoopeedoo . I suppose it could be worse it could be a thinktank. After years of killing any debate on plan B we now have a task force to calm the plebs. I suspect it will not be enough for the bulk of the yes movement .
How nostalgic it must be for Keith Brown to be part of a task force again.
@Gullane 04,
This site ALWAYS favours Independence. If you can find anything positive in the actions over the senior SNP figures in that regard over the last four years then good luck to you.
The rest of us just look on in horror at a party who are failing in their promises, their management and their leadership towards our chosen objective
Breeks
In recent weeks you have been playing the sort of blinder on Independence which, on the fitba field, the likes of Kenny Dalglish, Denis Law or even Jim Baxter could only dream about.
But, the final paragraph of your post at 10.14am just might be the political comment equivalent of “Stanley” Baxter playing keepie-uppie at Wembley.
Utmost respect.
Gullane04 @10:27
“I used to love this site for it’s lively positive posts in favour of Scottish Independence,”
You forgot to add…
“but having been presented with indisputable evidence, the focus has turned towards the utter criminal car crash that is Sturgeon’s Nasty Party.
I’d prefer this site if we could ignore the SNP elephant in the room blocking any chance of progress and go back to talking kindly and positively about independence, unicorns and rainbows.
Yours sincerely
Gullane04”
Bob Mack @1048
How about 18 very positive polls on the trot mainly due to the competent handling of the Covid 19 virus by the Scottish Government. When did we last win even 2 positive polls on the trot before that.
No point in going for a second referendum unless you have at least 55%+ support in the polls. Rush into one and lose means Independence is dead for the next 20+ years.
You and your Ilk are charging down that hill to Flodden Field because you took umbridge with your allies and did not have the patience to wait out the enemy.
The only people who should receive your UNCONDITIONAL support are probably living with you in your household.
Everybody else including political party’s or personalities should have to earn it.
I have given them support in terms of my time ,my money, and my efforts like standing outside polling stations being abused by Unionists. Why did I do that ?
I did it simply because I was reassured that I would be repaid when it came to putting in power a party whose main aim was just that very thing and my my hopes for an Independent Scotland would be fulfilled.
I remain after all this time ,with a deficit for my support.
That’s very kind Socrates MacSporran.
I also had a wee devil’s giggle in my head imagining what would happen when the Salmond Conspirators jailed for perverting the course of justice met up in the exercise yard with the Salmond defenders jailed for contempt of court…
But that gallows humour felt too close to the bone and unkind to Craig Murray.
“What’s the time Mr. Wolffe?”
“One o’clock!”
“What’s the time Mr. Wolffe?”
“Two o’clock!”
“What’s the time Mr. Wolffe?”
“Cover-up time!”
What’s happening in Norway…….23 deaths under investigation.
All lives in their own right.
Lord I’ve filled my boot McConnell on TV
talking the same shite that he did when in
Labour’s front ranks.
Asked about polls with 58% for independence
He said OK but that doesn’t mean they want a referendum?
This guy gets £2K a week from us in his pension for selling us out.
Surely Lady Dorrian has to come around and quash the anonymity ruling soon
I don’t think they all need named. Anonymity for all parties in a case like this should be a given: for those who need to come forward, and for those who could have their life entirely destroyed on a lie. However, if what I think I know is actually correct, at least one of them absolutely needs named.
@gullaneno4
It won’t matter if polls go above 80% if there is no plausible route to the Gold Standard referendum the gradualists insist we need. Either you have an answer to the “Now is not the time” response from Westminster, or you don’t. Magical thinking like Pete Wishart’s that Johnson will wake up one morning and have an attack of reasonableness and cave in just won’t cut it.
You and other gradualists may be happy to punt any realistic chance of a vote on independence into the long grass of the 2030’s, but many of us aren’t. If you think this place in particular is the forum for such etiolated nationalism, you’re even more deluded than your input to date suggests.
Painting the tactics of your side as well considered patience which will result in concrete results in the next 5 years is just laughable sorry. It’s a smokescreen for political cowardice and the continuation of the cosy sinecures of the devolutionary settlement: better a big fish in a small pond.
We all know what will happen if the gradualists aren’t defeated: they win a majority @ #HR2021 then sit around collecting more mandates and waiting for their Task Force to report as the house burns down around their ears. Boris will still say no, there is no other election coming up, and even if there was the answer will be the same.
Gradualist hand lickers just can’t help themselves. Your chains sit lightly on you.
The silence of the MSM and unionist MSPs on the Murrell saga is truly astonishing.
gullaneno4
Polls change nothing. Campaigns do. Stop defending the indefensible. We lost indyref1 because the yoons lied and we didn’t attack the liars effectively.The yoon liars have still to be held to account.
We can have (and should have) had an indyref after every majority in the holyrood parliament. It was the SNP leadership that prevented this. Not the liars in westminster.
Before watergate Nixon had the the best polling of any president.
Keith Brown has hopefully had a lot of letters. Folk are furious. A task force ? How dumb does keith brown think we are?
The new NEC appear to be exactly the same as the old NEC. If anyone on the NEC reads this – you must start suspending the woke liars.
Shug – unless the yoons were behind it all along.
@Gullane 04
If for one nano second Johnson thought he could win a referendum he would be pulling out all the stops to put it in place. You can be absolutely certain of that. Another failed referendum and Scotland could probably kiss goodbye to freedom possibly forever.In that you are right.
However Scotland has a long history of fighting against the odds when we should have withdrawn. Like Flodden. They may have lost but they will always be remembered and respected. I have stood on these very fields and watched people shed a tear in their memory.
The fact that Johnson is resisting should tell you something. He thinks he might lose. Yes, lose.
So I ask you openly Gullane 04. Who holds the top trump hand right now ? That said why are we not ready to capitalise on it right now?
GullaneNo4
“Rush into one and lose means Independence is dead for the next 20+ years.”
Independence has been doing a fairly good impression of a Norwegian Blue ever since Sturgeon got her killer heels under the desk in Bute House.
Oops. Best be careful. Mere mention of “killer heels” will have complaints of sexual harassment coming at me from all directions if the AS experience is anything to go by.
To restore public confidence in our law enforcement we need to be looking at solutions. As a layman it seems to me that a Lord Advocate with responsibility for prosecutions but is also an Executive member with a role to advise Government, is at a minimum a conflict of interest. The Scotland Act 1998 Section 48 sorely needs reformed. These roles need to be disentangled.
That would be my starting point on the many legal and Parliamentary reforms required to prevent the environment for less than squeaky clean behaviour to take hold. Reform is essential before, during and after Independence. We are not in a good place.
As a parent and grand parent, the safety of my daughters and grand daughters is paramount and comes before independence. Therefore it is my decision and that of my extended family, not to vote SNP whilst they promote abhorrent policies such as GRA and the Hate Bill . Allowing, men in dresses to to freely march into little girls toilets and changing areas beggars belief and is an assault on the real female population. I can’t believe, any responsible person could vote for this shower of chancers and so put our women as extreme risk.
Gullane 04
I agree, there seems plenty on here who would prefer to see DRoss as FM, whilst there are several things I don’t agree with in the SNP at the moment, I could never vote for a unionist party and abstaining is playing right into the hands of the unionists. It’ll be SNP 1 & 2 for me as I reside in DRoss territory.
Tannadice Boy@ 11.55
Dead right, too many unhealthy connections between politicians, judiciary and now obviously Police.
IMHO NS will remain in post until the MSM pick up the corruption angle and runs with it. What are the chances though?
Although a little out of date Bella C’s article highlights the incestuous relationships at the heart of it all.
https://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2018/04/18/bono-groupthink-and-partners/
The Brit establishment will out the Murrells when it suits their purpose.
If NS thinks she’s safe with them, she’s not.
Possibly launch an offensive just b4 the May election to hopefully, in their eyes, destroy the indy movement forever.
I’m sure the soft nos& yessers will run for the hills the rest of us stalwarts will be here till the end
@Nally Anders 12:24pm
Thanks for the reference article. I haven’t read that one before.
highseastim says:
17 January, 2021 at 12:18 pm
Gullane 04
I agree, there seems plenty on here who would prefer to see DRoss as FM…
Name them.
All of those who have said that they will not vote SNP at the forthcoming election [of course]
@ScotsRenewables
Something a bit more recent than looking back on something that happened 100 years ago, done by Professor John Ioannidis a world renowned epidemiologist.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/eci.13484
Heres the conclusion:
It fits with what we have actually seen this winter. Since october we have had lockdowns, circuit breakers, firebreakers, rule of 6, bubbles, all sorts of shit and we still had a strong winter resurgence.
Lady Dorian. Yes she’ll be releasing the names of those who in concert schemed to jail and innocent man.
The Scottish legal system has to release these names. Firstly because the continued secrecy expose the Scots legal system to be a joke, a sham and a system that does not value truth or fairness.
And then ask yourself this. What does it say for the so called eminent law schools at Edinburgh and Glasgow. What appalling schools of so called legal thought with a legal system like the one we now have.
QC’s who take the money to the point where they euphemistically say they have an ‘ un-statable case’ , lawyers and fiscals who can put together a phoney prosecution, lawyers who can advise on every which way to frustrate the exposure of a conspiracy to pervert the course of justice, a First Minister who herself was a Scots lawyer.
Yeh, Richard Nixon, Idi Amin, General Pinochet would be proud of this lot. Scotland’s legal system is in tatters. Just like it’s sectarian Police Force.
Morality, absolutely none, they’d hang a poor nig-nog high on a public tree like the best lynch mob if paid to do so. So forget justice in Scotland folks. Not all of our legal fraternity is bad. But much of it is, and it’s enough of it to discredit thoroughly the whole rotten system and expose it for what it now is.
As for the legal fraternity who are trying to expose wrong doing a grateful word of thanks in an otherwise very dark Scotland.
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There is a very remote, but curious possibility that after the Holyrood election in May, the leader of either the Labour Party or the Conservative Party may be First Minister.
Even just typing those words feels bizarre. But there is a quantifiable risk that Blinket Liar Sturgeon will be evicted from Bute House. It is a fact we have a minority SNP administration. The current bourach may throw up all sorts of strange results.
I will throw up at the thought of Anas Sarwar or Douglass Ross ending up as FM,