The best a man can get
Posted on
February 16, 2021 by
Rev. Stuart Campbell
You can’t ask for more from a day than making this sleazy wee sexual pervert weep.
But be assured we’ll keep reaching for the prize time and again, folks.
Oh, and never, ever forget this true fact – Wings Over Scotland wouldn’t exist at all if it wasn’t for James Mackenzie. We hope he’s in tears about that forever.
But more than that, always remember who Neil Mackay is.
Specifically, a pathetic, snivelling coward who won’t even own his own actions. And the idea of such a wretched, miserable little weasel making a self-pitying play for the moral high ground is funnier and sicker than even our darkest jokes.
He blocked me! ?
He blocked me years ago. What were you doing wrong?
He blocked me in 2012.
Gillettes lawyers have been tipped off.
😉
Well, as a dad of 3 teenager daughter’s, let me assure you that the last thing a girl who has been traumatized wants, is for it to be broadcast publicly.
I’m blocked by him and Mackay but I’ve just read the whole article and really this country seems to be going back to Barrack Room lawyers and Jedburgh Justice and lynching
Gawd I’d forgotten all about him.
Who is the fud anyhow? Never heard of him. Take it he’s a big girl’s blouse though.
Well I blocked him, so there…
Omg. I see someone called Caitlin don’t like you much either Stu. Lol
I remember when he contacted me via Facebook to tell me I shouldn’t read your stuff because of all the evil things you’d done/said. He’s only interested in people that agree 100% with whatever bat shit crazy thing he’s in to.
Why wouldn’t Wings exist if it wasn’t for him?
the REV – not on twitter, still wrecking twitter …
I would imagine that most if not all journalists have watched All the President’s Men at some point and felt a frisson of self-congratulation afterwards at their choice of career.
The trouble is that in Scotland a lot of journalists appear to think they are following in the same hallowed steps as Woodward and Bernstein.
Could. Not. Be. More. Mistaken.
Scotland’s hacks don’t speak truth to power…they speak power’s ‘truth’ to us.
“Why wouldn’t Wings exist if it wasn’t for him?”
The story is a few minutes into this:
link to wingsoverscotland.com
Here is his Twitter account,,
link to mobile.twitter.com
James Mackenzie Retweeted
Caitlin Logan
@_CaitLogan
Replying to
@_CaitLogan
With particular reference to the section of Stuart Campbell’s blog which invoked Neil Mackay’s daughter’s sexual assault as a means of attacking him. Now deleted but with the opposite of an apology. Before that, it was already shared by Kenny McAskill and liked by Joanna Cherry.
Not a nice guy.
What does she have on him?
Let me get this straight – MacKay wrote about his daughter’s assault in a newspaper ?
Yet the vile wokeratti have a problem with you ?
P.S. Graham what does who have on whom ?
Just posted this on “Agents of Disinformation”
Had a look at the twatter pileon I noticed that the majority of posts had a screenshot of certain parts of the article, my my what a righteous sanctimonious shower they are , forgetting totally or deliberately his reviled outrageous pages in the paper that inserted Alex Salmond in amongst a collection of hated murderers and sex fiends , but that could only be considered as artistic licence it was not in any way an attempt to sway or direct the jury to a certain conclusion by transference
I also note the deliberate overwhelming desire to SILENCE K MacAskill and Chris MacEleny from commenting or posting on WOS with many demanding their expulsion from the SNP
I’m afraid the unionists and the sycophants have taken total control of the SNP and it is now a hollow shell regarding indy
Anyway Stuart know that people who read and contribute to your blog still need you in the fight to free our country from the corruption
PhilM @12:55
The last sentence of your post says it all.
I had decided this evening to get away from the maelstrom that is Scottish politics now.
But your site is a veritable thesaurus of Scottish politics over the last 10 years.
I am addicted, and I wish I weren’t.
Cheers fella…And that’s why I would always defend the WoS approach to journalism. Telling it straight to a corrupt elite is still very, very powerful. With facts too!
Whatever next?!
Blocked for about 8 years … didn’t know he was still in the land of the living tbh.
Keep calling them out Stu. Those hiding behind the false cloak of morality will be outed.
You’ve said it for me Lothianlad.
Quote;-
“I’m afraid the unionists and the sycophants have taken total control of the SNP”
Its 4am, I’m on shift ( & having a dump on the clock) and that made me smile.
Now back to things at hand…..squeeze for Nicola…
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Stuart,
Thank you.
I had forgotten what a beautiful mind you have.
When you combine that cerebral ability with the genial and towering intellect of Alex Salmond akin to two auld friends having a cup of tea in the garden on a beautiful sunny afternoon in Bath, well….
I just watched the whole 42 minute conversation and it was bliss from start to finish.
Stuart, thank you for devoting ten years of your life to the cause of true Scottish Independence.
I am convinced those genuinely misguided and/or ignorant souls still worshipping their imposter-syndrome Amaden led dreg fae Dirk-horn will eventually see the light and get their house of the Old SNP in order.
Stuart, I am sorry all of these McWoke me, me, me, me trans-narcissists and their Neil MacKay under-rock dwellers keep shooting you, the messenger.
One day, a decent person will be back in charge.
The truth will out. It always does.
History will not be kind to Sturgeon.
Neil MacKay will not even get a footnote. His weaponising of the murdered toddler James Bulger, and distressed his grieving mother, Denise Fergus is gutwrenchingly offensive.
McKay prostitutingg himself for the 30 pieces of “freelancer” silver paid by the morally bankrupt Herald is all you need to know about that Antrim reptile.
Stuart, might it be an idea to add a section on your Wings Over Scotland website that comes up on Google searches, like an honest Wikipedia to reveal roasters like James Mackenzie and Neil Mackay so their dirty murky past will ALWAYS appear, along with their contemptible and disgusting conduct as cited above?
Any ways Stu., this dolphin is clapping his flippers at watching that brilliant video with you and Alex Salmond…
link to wingsoverscotland.com
If anyone here on Wings needs cheering up, give yourself 42 minutes and watch Stuart’s interview with Alex.
Also my favourite animal is a jaguar (did any WokieWanker get hoist by that petard on Twitter?).
Good night Mr Campbell and please keep up the good work. As the old saying goes…
You are pissing exactly the right people off 🙂
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ORIGINAL QUOTE…
Rev. Stuart Campbell says:
17 February, 2021 at 12:56 am
“Why wouldn’t Wings exist if it wasn’t for him?”
The story is a few minutes into this:
link to wingsoverscotland.com
I am with Wings 100% in this . Please carry on Stuart you are doing a great job. Thank you
Al-Stuart,
In case any folk on here have not seen it, here is another great uplifting video, which has been highlighted on the internet recently. From 25 years ago. The Master, Alex Salmond, fully in charge of his brief, wipes the floor with the unionists.
Interesting to note, it is still EXACTLY the same utterly vacuous, pathetic, cringing ‘too wee, too poor, too stupid’ arguments being used by unionists and their apparatchiks in 2021. Oh, to be free of thise wretched, so called ‘union’ with England.
Alex Salmond, a king among men. An absolute joy to watch.
link to youtube.com
They don’t like it up’em Captain Mainwaring, they don’t like it up’em!
You sir are a fucking genius, well played….
I can find any number of articles exposing MacKay for hat he truly is. That is not an issue.
What I found revealing was the number of SNP politicians who joined in the Twitter storm trying to crucify you. The usual same sentence that everybody concocts in their own apparently.
They are Unionists. Pure and simple. Faux outrage everywhere
on behalf of a lowlife who could produce articles like the above and the Salmond story. He is not what he seems as per the story I wrote about in a previous post.It revealed more about him than he thought.
I provided this answer to someone he blocked:
‘Part of his self-pitying reply to Christopher = “would you not think of offering a scintilla of kindness to someone who’s being attacked . . .”
Some nerve given that he demonstrated “kindness” by linking a parade of rapists & serial killers with AS at the time of his trial.’
A severe case of a self-awareness vacuum. I’m blocked for WrongTweet too, now, of course. Along with a great many other people.
Employed by The Herald! A despicable rag. Used to be a good paper when I was growing up.
Brilliant interview with Alex, Rev. I can see the rationale for swearing as part of expression and it is an important part of our culture which we tend to misunderstand. Swearing also seems popular with the hypocritical bourgeoisie who make our laws telling the working class it’s ‘offensive’, as some Lib Dem recently demonstrated.
Indy folks need to forget referendums, or 82% of Scotland’s daeless SNP MP’s ever asserting Scottish sovereignty, and use the national election as a national plebiscite on independence, as Solidarity and others are proposing. Mebbe yerguidsel and Solidarity and ISP et al could give us an article or two on that?
Neil MacKay, the man who pimped out James Bulger in order to attack Alex Salmond on the eve of his trial in the most disgusting and disgraceful manner imaginable.
How is this piece of rat shit even still writing or in a job after doing that?
Seriously, I knew The Herald was a rag but even by their low standards this is something else.
Never seen those comments above from his mum Denise… FFS this fat slug should have been ostracized for what he did, still should be.
Instead he is on twitter trying to make out he is the victim.
This is classic crybully behaviour from a hideous human being.
Hang you fat bloated head in shame you dog.
Pimping out James Bulger and surrounding his picture with rapists and murderers all to try to smear Alex Salmond.
Didn’t even occur to you the hurt that would inflict on James Bulgers family did it Neil.
This is your hero Mairi Hunter and co. Fuck you and everything you stand for.
When I was younger, I used to think making friends was important. It takes getting that bit older to realise the enemies you make are equally – if not more – important.
@Robert Louis – Aye, Great Days those, a true political genius..
Saw somebody in the audience that we all recognise, where is she now ?
What struck me though was how you could put a contemporary campaign video together based on much of Eck’s arguments from 1995 – the arguments are still much the same.
Bob Mack,
Come May, or whenever, if the SNP get a working majority then I guarantee they come after Wings – the temptation will simply be too great to resist. The Hate Crime bill or some form of online accountability legislation will be weaponised and there would be a lot of symbolism, and great cheers and plaudits from the woke and their sheep, by making WoS the first victim.
The good news is that hosting WordPress is pretty simple so the site could easily be moved somewhere safe. The only problem is that it’s easy to compel the internet providers to block it.
So what then? At that point I really don’t know. There are plenty of ways of working around it but none with the same amount of bite.
Funny enough he blocked me back in 2020 when I replied with this to someone who asked what was wrong with him after he wrote an article claiming Scots were to blame for the racism in America:
“ A proud Ulster Scot laced with subservient Scottish cringe. #watp and all that jazz would be my guess”
Stuart, I think he will be quite safe in Bath from Scottish legislation.
This morning MacKay is actually tweeting to the FM, with links from times Cherry, MacAskill, and McEleny, have shared wings content.
“Just FYI” says Neil
FYI Neil. Perhaps instead of being a wee, rat, clypey bastard, you could be a journalist and write an article about a FM who lied directly to parliament then lied in her written evidence, about the lie she lied about.
Why are people on Twitter so weirdly melodramatic when they speak? It’s all tears and prayers and solidarity and face of evil and such drivel. They talk like they’re from some 19th century novel. It’s really forced and unnatural and stilted and insincere and showy. And hilarious.
I honestly can’t believe what is going on over at Twitter-I have to resist the temptation to post any reply, as I would be blocked. Talk about surveillance! link to twitter.com
Neil Mackay knew exactly what he was doing when he posted this -“Can anyone advise me if this is straight-up sectarian hatred directed against me?”
A journalist asking Twitter for advice!?
I would definitely have a contingency plan and back-up of the site ready to go should someone somehow manage to take this one down.
Ideally somewhere well outwith all their possible jurisdictions.
They have sinister plans for that Hate Bill rest assured. That bill… from this government… you better believe it
A tragedy that someone of that ilk can make a living pretending to be
a journalist with morals.
His poor daughter after all she had suffered had her father use her as he did with James Bulger.
Very sad that so many backing him are unable to do joined up thinking.
Fortunately for him, his exposure here will ensure regular checks from team Suppress Scotland.
It strikes me when reviewing the most recent stramash that the indy movement has a problem. Having the same ultimate goal as other people, many of whom you might agree with on some issues and disagree with on others seemed a “do-able” thing until relatively recently. The Yes campaign in 2012-14 and for some time afterwards retained its “big tent” feel. Most of the folk agreed about most stuff most of the time.
Look at us now. See the comments in Neil Mackay’s Twitter feed and the feeds of others on the opposite side of the argument. If you support Stu Campbell, it’s very difficult to see how there can be any “meeting of the minds” with such people. What are the prospects for an organisation like Now Scotland when it would necessitate working alongside such people? Those othering Stu and attempting to other and cancel anyone who even has the temerity to follow him aren’t interested in burying the hatchet in the name of achieving independence, unless it’s burying it in our backs.
These zealots aren’t my allies, nor are they people I’m interested in engaging with, still less campaigning alongside. The Scotland they want to build isn’t one I’m interested in helping construct, any more than I’m interested in helping British nationalists build a global Britain outside the EU.
The SNP is no longer my party, because it no longer represents my values. It’s pretty obvious that the “better nation” we all seek to build means very different things to different groups. Unless you want to live in a new nation which reflects the world view of the individuals lining up to fawn over a piece of work like Neil Mackay, you better start thinking hard about what political choices you make over the next 5 years.
Stuart, might it be an idea to add a section on your Wings Over Scotland website that comes up on Google searches, like an honest Wikipedia to reveal roasters like James Mackenzie and Neil Mackay so their dirty murky past will ALWAYS appear, along with their contemptible and disgusting conduct as cited above?
Any ways Stu., this dolphin is clapping his flippers at watching that brilliant video with you and Alex Salmond…
Pat Kane has appeared on Mackay’s twitter to praise him to the skies. It’s so moving. It’ll make you Hue & Cry.
All these small, seemingly insignificant hills that Wings fights on have one thing in common – they are all called the truth. Each and every hill is a smokescreen to what is the truth. And Wings are many.
Keep on truckin’.
I agree with you Andy Ellis.
It seems the bigger picture here is all about the failure of Nicola Sturgeon as a leader of a mainstream political organisation.
The bourach we are witnessing on Twitter is the clearest evidence that Nicola Sturgeon is not a leader – she has lost the support of at least 50% of the party and she has contributed directly to the tone and substance of the stooshy by STUPIDLY taking sides.
A leader of substance would have moved this angry debate into more sheltered waters and encouraged everyone to keep the heid and be civil to one another.
Instead she has fanned the flames and is leading the lynch mob.
Unforgiveable! SHE HAS TO GO!!
@Al Stuart
Thanks for that, a slim Eck there. We were still in London in ’95 so missed that debate. Robertson of course grew much too grand to bother with a seat at Holyrood, despite his promise there.
Andy Ellis – That is the sad but accurate position we are in. The sturgeonite faction of reality-denying, witch-hunters must be expelled. They have destroyed the party. And worse spent all its money. Great Post!
P.S. Just thought how much I have given to fight sturgeon’s anti-independence, genderwoowoo crap (martin keating, alex salmond, forwomenscotland review et al). If we had a real leader this money would have gone towards independence. How very,very sad. The present SNP deserve all that’s coming.
Nicola Sturgeon surrounds herself with second-rate people because they obey without question.
That includes her journalists.
Alex Salmond’s revised submission to the Fabiani Inquiry will be delivered to them later today. It will be fully in compliance with Lady Dorian’s judgement of yesterday and Fraser Nelson of The Spectator is expecting it to be accepted by them and for Alex to be given a date to attend the Inquiry next week.
If it is not accepted due to, for example, Andy Wightman being frightened of repercussions from John Swinney, then I think the press/Sky News even The Sunday Post will take a much stronger line with respect to Holyrood from now-on.
Persoanlly, I think that the date for the Holyrood Election should be set only after this is resolved and we have an outcome that everyone accepts is final.
Astonished – I agree, but a look at every front page on every newspaper in Scotland today, there is only one small reference to the inquiry, that Lady Dorrian won’t direct it – nothing on any of the rest of this. Sadly – this is a great year to bury bad news, with endless tweaking of the advice and timelines of a pandemic. We should be witnessing a popular uprising against much of this legislative agenda – but sadly ordinary people are not as political as we sometimes like to think. Red voters are now mustard voters and they see Sturgeon as a strong communicator – in control. Unless the MSM really are keeping their powder dry – my fear is an SNP majority.
‘Our Man in Moscow’
Funny
@Cath,
well said,
as Franklin D Roosvelt said,
`I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.`
when you look at the corrupt woke privileged white middle class uni `educated` detritus that are enemies of Wings you can see what a paragon in the fight for justice and truth Stu is,
free thinkers are anathema to the establishment.
@ Sylvia @ 9.25
Interesting thread you posted – last comment was from Leeze suggesting they should bin Kenny McAskill!!!
You would think that Neil,being Ulster bred, would know all about Sectarianism and what constitutes it.
So scumbag Mackay is trying to play the victim, we’re not having it he can f*ck off.
Gosh Stu you can sure point out the their total lack of integrity. What an absolute horror of a person to behave like that and to do it in the name of the Herald.
Wonder what his like feel about the border now up the Irish sea and ulster being put into full regulatory alignment with Dublin and nobody in ulster being asked about it
Just found out that Pat Kane is on the board of this Brexit festival scheduled for next year. A union jack waving brainwashing exercise and Kane, who claims to be a Scottish nationalist, not only wants to take part but wants to help organise it.
Andy Ellis
I think this marginalisation is intentional – it will make it more palatable to silence the critics in the name of unity.
@Lennie I agree that the individuals are safe enough. The low hanging fruit are the internet service providers. Soon enough there will be Nicola’s (Fire) Wall and everyone will need a VPN to see what’s going on here – just like China.
I know this is all rather melodramatic. However given the levels of corruption amply demonstrated in the machinations of the inquiry, this is just a small step beyond that.
Thon Jeremy Vine shitshow call in regarding Princess Anne and the royal line of succession whether she should be moved up? All because wee Harry has stepped out of line oh how sad,never mind eh.
Some marble mouthed caller in guy called Keith from Manchester (obviously not original) mancunian says
“She’s raised the profile of the Principality of Scotland !!! Blah blah
And has done wonderfully on raising Scotlands rugby profile.”
Seriously wtf man, I give up
Much as I have seen the need for the Rev’s recent exposés of the inner machinations of the SNP, I have read them with a sore heart a lot of the time.
However, when he takes the rotten courtiers of the Scottish Press to task, you realize how much you need this stuff. It gives you a spring in your step to see them dismantled and the sycophants and sappy f***ers dance their dance outing themselves as having no morals and no spine.
Keep doing what you are doing, Rev.
You get sniveling little bastards and sniveling little bastards…….
Neil Mackay is the sniveling bastards sniveling bastard.
Id love to meet him.
A Court of Session judge has ruled that another Rangers administrator David Grier can pursue damages against the Crown Office.
How many more million of pounds of Scottish taxpayers money will need to be paid out due to the inept and corrupt COPFS, certain folk must be sacked and prosecuted after this to restore the publics faith in COPFS.
Andy Ellis 0929, you have your Neil Mackay’s mixed up.
Neil Mackay- journalists you say?
It probably wouldn’t take much for to find some wee snippets of info on him in Armagh of where his loyalties sorry loyalist sympathy lies- just saying like
Ian Spruce @9:25 “You would think that Neil,being Ulster bred, would know all about Sectarianism and what constitutes it”.
If Neil Mackay felt the Wings article was “distasteful”-it would have been more appropriate/professional to contact Wings direct & voice his concerns. To ask Twitter for advice, was an invitation to the “I am offended” brigade to jump to his defence.
This morning, Mackay started again-and they all got going-then he posted – “I’m away for a Twitter break. Love to the good people”. Now they’re all sending him love and kisses! He will be sat back having coffee watching the drama play out.
I wonder what the reaction will be when Mackay next writes an article that the “I am offended” brigade take offence at!
The phrase ‘Media hoor’ isn’t used enough these days.
Mackay and Kane fit perfectly.
Let them screech. The deplorable’s aren’t as dumb as they think.
As a “no”voter who has largely been relaxed about a SNP lead Scottish Government I have been alarmed by recent events . Decided to read a bit further and found this site but also the comments section in the “National” to grasp the arguments from both side . I have to say I feel deeply concerned that free speech and democracy is hanging in very dangerous hands . I am not a hardened “anything” more a tactical voter to be honest . But my definition of “hate”would have the SNP Twitter accounts banned . I can’t quite believe the instant hatred and disregard for their fellow human beings particularly people who share the same goals as them . To be honest if we don’t find a better way to communicate soon with people who don’t share common values Then I fear for Scotland !
This blog is strangely addictive . “Lorna” is a very well read contributor and I have seen her on a few comments section and remains on topic and reasoned .
There has to be a better way !
I think SNP will navigate their own demise as I would be fearful to be open or honest with them . They kind of scare me .
On a daily basis I see/hear/read more of that which convinces me that I have no desire to live in a Scotland, Indy or otherwise, which is governed by the SNP.
A quick fly-by to Twitter to see those with a variety of SNP photos on their profiles, spouting utter nonsense to put it mildly, confirms my worst fears. The SNP has been hijacked and it is not the party of Independence.
It’s now a rag-bag collection of special interest and minority groups, championed by ignorant and self entitled twenty-somethings, jostling for position as to who can be the most Woke.
The plot to the film Invasion of the Body Snatchers has come to life! If you’re not one of “them”, prepare to be pointed out and screamed at by Sturgeonite clones sporting yellow and black themed online profiles, then chased through the streets of social media by a baying mob.
I had planned to spoil my constituency ballot and vote ISP on the List. However, I’m seriously considering voting tactically on the Constituency just to keep the SNP out!
@Stuart MacKay 10.24am
I fear you are correct. It seems an age ago that Loki the Scottish rapper called me an SNP stooge for supporting the concept that we should push for indy first and tackle the pressing social issues we faced after we won it. I bristled then at the “wheesht for indy” monicker. Perhaps I was wrong and Darren had a point? At that time, still an SNP member, I had faith that a mass movement of like minded folk could use the “big tent as a springboard for indy sooner rather than later.
How times have changed!
The Yes movement panjandrum has lost its way. Others may still be able to hold their noses and vote SNP, campaign alongside the cancel culture folks, sink their differences and play nice with them in Now Scotland, but count me out. They don’t deserve my support or my vote.
@Republicofscotland – £100m plus. Untidy bastard James Wolffe is the chap you want to question about that. Good luck with that one though. The last time he was questioned was at the Fabiani Inquiry and he laughed at us.
He was questioned again at Holyrood recently, mind-you and he didn’t appear such a vainglorious tit on that occassion.
kapelmeister @10.17am.
Kane’s writings in the National aren’t much better either, he’s all over the place jumping from one topic to another, if I buy the paper I just skip right by his ditherings, he should stick to singing.
@Lenny Hartley
Mixed up how? It’s the right spelling I think…? It’s pretty obvious who it refers to….
Watched the full clip, some of it several times, am I going mad, I can’t find a reference to James Mackenzie?
Captain Yossarian @10.41am.
Yes I don’t hold out much hope that anyone will be held accountable on the Scottish taxpayer paying out that kind of money, what does that say about the COPFS, and the Scottish government though, that abject failure is rewarded, as in the former Lord Advocate case.
It easy to say all governments are corrupt, but that doesn’t wash with me as an excuse to let them off the hook, if we want a fairer society we need to call it out every time we see it.
Who is James Mackenzie?
How on earth can SNP Councillor Julie McKenzie refer to you as a woman hater, if anything you’re the complete opposite, you’ve constantly defended women’s rights on your blog, from the SNP and BritNat wokeratti, in Scotland, who want to infringe on women’s rights.
I wish folk like SNP Councillor Julie McKenzie would do her homework first by actually reading your articles before opening her mouth.
link to twitter.com
A dad asks his bairn,
“what`s the magic word to get what you want”
the bairn says,
“i`m offended”
tru story.
“How many more million of pounds of Scottish taxpayers money will need to be paid out due to the inept and corrupt COPFS?” @Republicofscotland says at 10:31 am
High time for a Civil case (Group Litigation Order) on behalf of Scottish Taxpayers vs The Lord Advocate and Chief Constable.
Make those fuckers personally responsible for the debt caused and it’s repayment to The Scottish Government!
SNP Councillor Julie Mackenzie is a shite stirrer
…the Stasi often used a method which was really diabolic. It was called Zersetzung, and it’s described in another guideline. The word is difficult to translate because it means originally “biodegradation.” But actually, it’s a quite accurate description. The goal was to destroy secretly the self-confidence of people, for example by damaging their reputation, by organizing failures in their work, and by destroying their personal relationships. Considering this, East Germany was a very modern dictatorship. The Stasi didn’t try to arrest every dissident. It preferred to paralyze them, and it could do so because it had access to so much personal information and to so many institutions.
—Hubertus Knabe, German historian
link to en.m.wikipedia.org
ScotsRenewables @ 11.15.
Aye, and she’s probably already ‘advised’ the police about your post, such is her MO.
I wonder what the reaction will be when Mackay next writes an article that the “I am offended” brigade take offence at!
This is the problem with their strategy long term. He now can’t. Once you make yourself part of that group, your ability to speak freely is severely diminished because the punishment is being kicked out of it ignominiously, attacked and smeared. I suspect that’s why so many SNP MPs and MSPs are so completely silent. For a journalist, silence is career ending. Good luck to him managing to only ever now write pieces that don’t go against the groupthink.
@ Rev at 12.56: many thanks for linking to the interview you did with Alex Salmond last year. I’ve just enjoyed 42 minutes in very good company.
I didn’t catch the bit about that bloke – no loss.
However you have changed your mind about a plebiscite election not helping. I am pushing it everywhere I can as it seems to me the best mechanism right now. Legal, internationally recognised, under Scottish control, and speedy.
I have written two letters on this subject to the National already – I don’t think either has been published – so have sent another this morning.
Jacqueline McMillan says:
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
17 February, 2021 at 11:23 am
link to t.co
Apparently breastfeeding is woo woo
Cheers guys
I’m going to Mars
Mental beyond belief
I remember Nestles encouraging African women NOT TO BREASTFEED but buy their formula milk and mix it in with water that killed their babies.
Aye well done. Lessons learned!
IT’S SICK WHAT’S GOING ON JUST NOW.
REALLY SICK
Saw this ‘interesting if true’ tweet and thought I’d share it on Wings, so that anyone who has a bit of time on their hands and has internet research skills can do a little bit of digging!
Andy Inglis @GroundedThistle
Machacky no happy when tables are turned? So he won’t want it mentioned he lost Scotchman/SoS job due to leaving late-night drunken sweary rants on SRU’s answer-machine?
Or that a lot of his (& Sunday Herald’s) demise was due to him having the raging hots for a female underling?
Jockanese Wind Talker – Once our legal profession is corrupted by the wee hairy fae Dreghorn and her (our) money, then we are all fecked, I’m afraid.
The Spectator knows what’s been going-on. Leave it to them. Many don’t like The Spectator, but without them we will would soon be paralized by corruption.
Our legal profession has stood tall in the world for a few hundred years and has been taken into the grubber by Sturgeon, Swinney and Wolffe. That’s the scandal that I see.
Back more mundane topics – Iain Lawson’s latest, link to yoursforscotlandcom.wordpress.com is a good run-down of why “Both votes SNP” is really a vote for Nicola and Boris.
Whatever happened to the ‘tyranny of the majority’
BRING IT BACK!!!!
A wee sick cabal are now running the roost
PERVERTS
Cheers nicla
Where are you coming from btw??
Just btw
“the raging hots for a female underling” is a very interesting quote and should be carefully considered by all those within the SNP who are sooooo concerned for these pooooor women who made complaints about sexual harassment.
I mean, surely if anyone genuinely cares about women being sexually harassed, they wouldn’t jump to the defense of someone who has been proven to do this and so lost their job over it?
Also, wouldn’t it smack of rank hypocrisy, for someone who has a ‘history’ of sexually deviant behavior, to have used their media platform to attack a man who hadn’t even had the opportunity to give his side of the story?
This is all hearsay of course until someone can show that he did do the things that this tweeter claimed, because we wouldn’t like to be like the BBC/McKay/Rape Crisis Scotland/ etc, and find a man guilty before he has been given an opportunity to prove his innocence.
How on earth rev can we expect to achieve a successful independence with the calibre of MP/MSP’S ( with the obvious exceptions) in the SNP.
We could never trust them to fight for Scotland (unless you were involved) in separation negotiations as I believe they would be corrupt.
I want independence with every fibre of my being but I now believe it will only be achieved by clearing out the bent and spineless SG/SNP and replacing it with people who have morals,intergrity and a burning passion to free our country.
The SNP in its current form will never get my vote or that of my family and friends.
Stu – I wouldn’t be surprised if some in the SNP were behind or linking in with that time a few years back to get your arrested.
You tell the truth – that is why they fear you. And what’s more you have by far the biggest readership in Scotland.
For the SNP? When trust goes you are sunk. You might limp across the line in May but it’s downhill all the way after that. Of course you might be able to squeeze through the hate crime bill (if it’s been held up) and self ID. So as that’s all you are interested you’ll then able to fizzle away like SLAB. Mission accomplished, eh?
And as for independence – well that hasn’t been part of their picture ever since Nicola took the reins in November 2014.
PRASAD 10:55
Exactly…increasingly argument is becoming recondite and ‘knowing’
In the meantime Covid culture is killing normal behaviour, turning citizens into fearful hypochondriacs eager for the falsely liberating prick in the arm.
The state apparatus is now a major drug dealer.
Messrs. Jardine and Matheson, promotors of the Chinese opium trade, would be proud.
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‘Can Scotland afford to be independent?’
Richard Murphy on taxresearch.org.uk
Before I start, I’m what you would call a Yoon.
Now, with that confession done, let me just say this…. without this site standing up for what is right or wrong you would be very hard pushed to find the truth about our political class in Scotland. It gives me comfort to see the comments on here, knowing that there ARE people that have a great vision for what an IScotland should be, and truth be told, if our current politicians held the views of many on here then I’d be much more likely to vote for IScotland. But with the SNP in charge I can not. I do not trust them and they are just as bad with their lies as any other political party in the U.K.
People say, “Indy first then we will sort out the rotten politics”, but there has to be trust, and with the SNP firmly grasping the reins of power, and showing what they will do to keep a hold of them then I’m afraid that is a risk I couldn’t take for the sake of my children.
I am a swing voter and have voted for all the parties at some point in my life, I could be persuaded to vote for an Independent Scotland in the future by people that have a positive, honest, ideologically sound vision for what it should be, but i don’t think that will ever happen under the SNP.
My main point is this, keep standing up and calling out the wrong and the right, soft yoons like myself ARE taking notice, and if people like you can take control and show us the positive and moral benefits then you will have us.
“…I had planned to spoil my constituency ballot and vote ISP on the List. However, I’m seriously considering voting tactically on the Constituency just to keep the SNP out!”
My thoughts exactly.
Ottomanboi says:
17 February, 2021 at 11:44 am
So James Mackenzie is the leader of the Opium triads.
The thing about plooks is they are full of pus. These past years you have been poking plooks with a very sharp needle and out has come the pus.
This confluence of wokery, MSM mendacity, Salmond treachery and ignorant SNP knee jerk support of this McKay plook has produced possibly the greatest amount of pus yet.
Jings, it doesn’t half stink.
Pete Wishart article in the National today.
Direct quote.
“The idea of the SNP debating strategies for Independence in the last few days of an election campaign would be an absolute gift to the press and our opponents and couldn’t damage us more”.
That my friends is where we are. Worried about talking Independence.
@ITB71B Good post. I’m not sure most people use “Yoon” to mean people like you. I don’t use the term at all but if it’s comparable, I do say “Brits in Scotland” and that refers to people who in their identity are British and would never vote for Scotland to be a separate country – their country is the UK/GB.
In the census of 2011, 62% chose “Scottish only” as their national identity. Why do we not have 62% support for indy? Perhaps because people like you are not convinced. Convincing is there to be done – there are so many arguments in favour of indy. However, I have friends whose attitude is “yes, the UK is pretty shit and the politicians are all corrupt, but Scotland is no better so why change anything – we’ll get more of the same”. What’s happening right now isn’t helping convince them. The SNP attitude is to wheesht about it. Wings doesn’t agree that’s the way to take indy forward.
The amount of brigading on twitter and reddit about this is astounding, these sheep are so blind to the truth!
Of course it’s all the usual suspects who are decrying it and reeling out their attack dogs on it, while none of them are capable of fully grasping what is going on with this and just how they are being openly manipulated by the unionist press and their dirty hacks on social media for political capital.
These sheep are raising the portfolio of a unionist, the unionist rag he works for, and a unionist who put his own daughter on a fucking podium in the Herald for all of Scotland to see.
The same unionist who put Jamie Bulger alongside his own murderers, other child killers, rapists and serial killers in a bid to sway Scottish public opinion and influence the Jury a few days before the Salmond trial started by publishing an article that was so fucking outrageous that the Herald had to pull it from publication following public affront and outcry over it.
Are there really so many blind indy supporters out there who are willing to take Mackay’s word, a sick filthy unionists word, over people who have been promoting and supporting the cause since before 2014.
There are even SNP Ministers that are promoting Mackay on a sympathy vote and targetting ministers in their own party who have tweeted/retweeted or ever liked any tweet which contains references to this site.
I am so flabbergasted at the level of brigading around this man to vitue signal protection of him, a man who would sooner stab you in the back to to get a few lines in print, a man who put his own daughter front and center in the rag he works for just to make a few quid.
Neil Mackay sold his own daughter out.
What kind of sick twisted mind must you have to do that to your own daughter.
Worth asking why Angela H left the Herald?
@Harry Mcaye 10:44am
The mention of freelance work and articles by the Rev, for others in the MSM, before ‘Having to do it myself’ implies JMac was one of the recipents who rejected his article(s) – he’s not named in the video specifically.
@Craig Jones posted JMac’s Twitter feed upthread – if you read that feed, JMac confirms as much. He counters it was because of specific content he (they) found unacceptable. I dare say it is any clients right to reject material, for any reason.
I don’t think Rev Stu necessarily disagrees with their right to have done so (possibly the reasons) rather, he needed full editorial control if he wanted to see his articles in print (or otherwise) Therefore, we infer WoS was born as a result of editorial rejection by JMac (& others?)
Whether any long standing animosity arose from that period, I dare say is moot.
they hypocritical “Don’t bring folks weans into it” bunch on Twatter, who are defending Ulster Unionist Mckay (not averse to using his own and other’s kids for political ends) are the same ones who would gladly feed other folks weans puberty blockers well past the age of consent to feed the kinky habits of their twisted pals. just about finished with politics altogether if these are the people who get to shout the loudest. they don’t speak for me.
Jacqueline Macmillan @ 11.30.
Re breastfeeding link.
My head has just exploded. But it does illuminate the fact, like all this trans promotion, that so-called ethics is now often a front for big business interests.
The naïve social justice warriors are simply being used as free and noisy PR for billionaires.
Scotland gets a mention here, but its not in a good way. Some really deep stuff at the beginning but for Scotland’s hate/thought crime to get a mention indicates how far out these ideas link to youtube.com
from around 29mins
Quite seriously what does Pete Wishart do all day? Does he not have constituents to represent? Because at the moment he seems to spend all his time on Twitter dishing out quite a good amount of the vile abuse he claims others are dishing out.
Remember this is the guy who called No voters “w**ks” which is hardly a good way to reach out to his opponents. About as abusive as you can get- and very unimaginative too!
A complete and utter liability to the Yes movement.
The naïve social justice warriors are simply being used as free and noisy PR for billionaires.
Yup. Some of the younger ones are going to have massive regret issues later in life when they realise just how much of a damaging cult they’ve been a part of, and how much they’ve been used as useful idiots by older people who will toss them aside when they’re no longer useful. Some will no doubt go on to use their experiences positively and for good; others will be destroyed by it.
For those asking – and for what it’s worth as only my thoughts.
Rev said the reference was in the first few minutes of the Salmond interview. I’d watched it ages ago and just watched the first bit again, twice.
I think the reference is at about the 3 minute mark. Rev says he checked out some indy websites and even wrote a post for one but when he made a joke in a comment he was ostracised and decided that if he was going to be able to speak his mind freely he would just start his own site.
Assuming the attacks on his comment were started or led by this person – that would explain why “Wings” would not exist if it wasn’t for him.
That’s how I took it anyway.
I’ve been wracking my brains trying to recall what that early blog James McKenzie was involved in was called. I remember it at the time, and the stooshie where the Rev left, but its name totally eludes me. Didn’t Duncan Hothersall write for it as well?
John martini,?
Ah wait, just done what I shoaled have done before asking and googled! Better Nation, wasn’t it?
John martini, that’s a like from me, your seeing through the mist better than most.
@Bob Mack 12:08pm
“The idea of the SNP debating strategies for Independence in the last few days of an election campaign would be an absolute gift to the press and our opponents and couldn’t damage us more”.
From the SNP’s Constitution, Rules and Standing Orders –
2 Aims
The aims of the Party are—
(a) Independence for Scotland; that is the restoration of Scottish national sovereignty by restoration of full powers to the Scottish Parliament, so that its authority is limited only by the sovereign power of the people of Scotland to bind it with a written constitution and by such agreements as it may freely enter into with other nations or states or international organisations for the purpose of furthering international cooperation, world peace and the protection of the environment.
(b) the furtherance of all Scottish interests. ?
The SNP conduct Standards;
s4: Every member owes a duty to the Party to refrain from conduct likely to cause damage to or hinder the Party’s proper pursuit of its aims in accordance with its constitutionally laid down policy and direction.
That’s clear enough. SNP members and independence supporters who don’t believe in hypocrisy shouldn’t need to look for alternative parties to support. SNP MPs and MSPs who back views conflicting with their party’s constitution should leave the SNP and form a party which better reflects their dogma.
John martini,?
So I got round to watching the interview you did with Alex Salmond.
Don’t know why but I thought it was going to be you interviewing him.
It was very good. You could definitely do politics if you wanted but I can fully appreciate that you’d rather shave your baws with a cheese grater.
Struggling to believe that interview is as recent as mid 2019. It feels like an eternity away after all that has happened since.
I am guessing it was James Mackenzie who was the person you initially shared a forum with before he turned on you for a BTL comment he disapproved of. So you started wings as a result. Thank you James Mackenzie.
Answered a few questions that I had. The ‘Reverend’ question being the main one!
It is funny seeing you speak. After all the shite that gets posted about you I realized I was subliminally expecting every third word to be f**k or c**t. lol.
Good stuff.
We need to fight back with the way we use the english language, but we are not unionists so we just use it for the truth
Why don’t we call it as it is
Instead of using the word westminster and other such like words, why don’t we use other terms for them
For instance, lets use the term english imperialist or imperialism because that is what it is and always has been.
Tony Blair took us into a war, an imperialist war in Iraq, scottish soldiers died in that imperialist war, and what did they die for………. NOTHING
So from now on I will use imperialism and its evil ways
every chance I get.
Lets stop pussyfooting about and let the people of scotland and the world know what they are by using the language they use to berate us, The scottish nationalist party, boris johnstone in the imperialist english parliament had to be told numerous times to stop using that by the speaker, he still kept doing it, and the speaker kept letting him get away with it, and that is how it works, you keep telling me to stop, and I keep doing it, because I know you will not stop me as you will not suspend me from the house as you have done to many others in the past
Because Mr Speaker you are an imperialist english unionist
As normal, my post is is being mucked about, and it makes it sound deranged,, but just to make sure that’s a like from me john martini.
I find it particular that what I write is not what comes on display in my post. Often different words than what I have used all my lifetime.
Re-watched the interview – I can’t understand why anyone thinks Stuart is unreasonable – he comes across as a completely balanced reasonable person in this interview. Makes you wonder why it is they really oppose him. Is it just professional jealousy or is there something much deeper? Are they what they seem to be?
Captain Yossarian @ 11:36
“Our legal profession has stood tall in the world for a few hundred years”
If you believe that you’ll believe anything. While the nation was being sold out, they made sure they got their own special protections and privileges written into the Treaty of Union, and even now still bide in oor auld pairlament. They served themselves and Scotland’s privileged Anglophone unionist gentry, whilst joining in the oppression of the rest o us.
Fine wie me, everyone is entitled to their opinion in my book. Freedom of speech, of thought and belief … but ye’ll no mind us trying tae persuade ye differently?
I really liked Rev’s explanation for why he swears.
In 2012-14 I went to a lot of church hall type community events in Glasgow to watch people present for Better Together (actually there were hardly any of those) and Yes. I didn’t live (and still don’t) in a very posh part of the city. You’d often get really emotional or angry people asking questions or making points and you initially were jarred, like, ooh, they’re speaking very emotionally here and swearing and you don’t get that on the BBC (TV was mostly where I’d seen political discussions you see). But then you’d realise, actually that’s how I speak when I’m really emotional or angry about stuff.
@ Weechid: agree with you about the Rev’s interview – reasonable, pleasant, fact-based.
There is the subliminal similarity to Lenin in appearance. But that wouldn’t put people off, surely!
Any word on Lady Dorian’s Craig Murray Contempt judgement yet?
My favourite part… 38.14
“…yeah except we don’t do any bluffs.”
Very insightful summation from Alex Salmond just prior to that when he explains the crucial difference between this site and the mainstream media.
James Kelly of Scot Goes Pop speaking a lot of sense on this. And while he’s crossed swords with Wings in the past fair play to him for saying this.
link to scotgoespop.blogspot.com
Keep on doing what you’re doing. We would be lost without Wings.
Sarah says:
17 February, 2021 at 1:01 pm
“There is the subliminal similarity to Lenin in appearance. But that wouldn’t put people off, surely!”
I see more of a resemblance to socialist comedian Andy Hamilton – a clever, witty and jovial character.
It appears that the Good Guy Neil Mackay is being confused the the Vile Britnat Neil Mackay
Neil Mackay
@NeilMackay_
·
2h
It’s tempting to change my Twitter username
@NeilMackay_
to something notably different to the vile BritNat hack
@NeilMackay
so as to reduce the amount of mistakes people can make when tagging, but for the time being I’ll leave it as it is and just ask people to double check ?????????
@Alf Baird – Remember Joe Beltrami, Alf? Those were the days when law was completely separate from politics. Nowadays, James Wolffe’s law is worth no more than a barrow-full of shite to the ordinary citizen of Scotland.
People are set-up nowadays. Not only Alex Salmond. That never happened before now.
Law, in my opinion, should be put under special measures and many of them should be bagged and sent for trial.
John martini. I have made sure I am not going barmy or crazy with my posts by ensuring others read my comments before I post,
Yet a lot of what I post has a variation in it that often creates a alternative context., previous years have been fine, this has only been the case in the last year, also my posts do not go through as they used to, sometimes I wait hours, then have to try again, then previous comments and present comments go through. I don’t think stu is doing this, but it is happening, that’s why I understand what you are saying and it hit a cord,
Writing this without the enlightenment of your comment made me sound like a conspiracy theorist.
I first noticed this during my comments regarding the treaty of the union and the right to self determination.
Basically when I became more serious about Scottish independence. And yes it makes me sound crazy, but then perhaps it was meant to.so I restrained myself from commenting, thanks for your comment, I have realised that my spouse and others around me reading my post before I submit comments are not living in a surreal alternative reality, we can’t all be wrong, but our speech and character can be altered in this digital world.
crisiscult @ 12:12
“I do say “Brits in Scotland” and that refers to people who in their identity are British and would never vote for Scotland to be a separate country – their country is the UK/GB.”
In Lesley Riddoch’s excellent film about Estonia’s independence one of the former Estonian independence leaders stated that our national identity is the most important aspect when it comes to independence. Without national identity there is no national consciousness and without that there can be no desire for nationhood. This also corresponds to postcolonial literature findings (Fanon, Cesaire etc).
In my own research in this area it soon became clear that national identity is determined mainly by two factors, language and culture. This demonstrated the importance of the Scots language (in helping form our identity) and explains why imperial powers do not teach indigenous language and instead only impose the language of the dominant imperial/colonial power. The reason why the Scots language is not taught in schools is to alter our national identity from Scottish to British, and is what we know as cultural imperialism.
This also helps explain why almost all peoples in self-determination conflict are linguistically divided. In our case the vast majority of Yes voters are Scots speakers clearly holding to a Scottish identity whereas this is much less the case for No voters, many if not most of whom are Anglophone and who hold to a British and/or other identity.
It is clear from this that our national identity is the dominant factor in how a people vote on the question of national independence, with general policies on this and that being less relevant, and in many cases irrelevant. These and other related issues are covered in my book (‘Doun-Hauden: The Socio-Political Determinants of Scottish Independence’).
Wings now trending on twitter. Do these idiots ever think about the publicity Wings gets with their pathetic efforts to discredit him?
Keep up the good work Wings – they made their biggest mistake the day they got you banned from Twitter.
Enjoyed the Alex video.
A Person says:
17 February, 2021 at 12:34 pm
…..
A complete and utter liability to the Yes movement.
This is a person who is proud to be: ‘Parliamentary Tweeter of the year’.
You do not get that sort of accolade by sitting around twiddling your thumbs.
Terry @ 1:09 pm
“James Kelly of Scot Goes Pop speaking a lot of sense”
When he was strongly arguing for SNP 1+2 at the last Holyrood election he didn’t seem to have much idea of how D’Hondt worked.
Is he still promoting SNP 1+2?
Jacqueline McMillan.. 11.30
I fed my babies formula milk mixed with water..still alive..
O/T Talking of comedians, I remember hiring a young Andy Cameron for a ahem ‘Ladies Night’ I ran at Ibrox House [Broomloan Rd pub] back in the 70s. Hilariously the ‘ladies’ struggled to differentiate between the stripper and the comedian. In fact any male in the room was fair game!
Strangely Tennants put my RC husband in as manager right beside Ibrox.
@Alf Baird – Estonia’s Government has just collapsed in the midst of a corrution scandal. A bit like what’s going to happen here soon.
Old Alex is expecting to appear before the Fabiani Inquiry of Holyrood sweetie-wives on Wednesday.
I would expect Sturgeon and her patsy husband to be shredded. Alex has waited long-enough for this. Quite a show in prospect.
It is indeed, so very, very intstructive to observe those folk rushing to defend Neil. Very, very instructive. Isn’t that right comfy Pete??
straying a bit off the subject , I wonder how this particular stain on Scottish history will be refered to in years to come
The Fabiani papers ( redacted )
The holyrood missing witness caper
The collective amnesia affair
The list is endless and just as bleedn stupid
And Mug public are funding this bloody pantomime
Wings trending strongly today.
Pension Pete in meltdown.
Can I ask Rev, how have your site visits been across the last 24hours?
A good job well done?
Aye
SNP 1=2 makes perfect sense
TO UNIONISTS
link to campusreform.org
For anyone who is being a prick just now.
Breastfeeding is just that.
No fucking argument.
Nestle big bucks ‘encouraged’ African women and fuck knows who else to give the weans dried cow’s milk MIXED IN WITH CONTAMINATED WATER.
ANYBODY ON THIS SITE DOESN’T GET THAT …WELL FUCK YOU DICK
THAT’S THE TRUTH AND HOW IT IS
Pete Wishart’s limited repertoire has now been now exhausted. His repetitive, SNPBAAADBloggers lines are not making a bit of difference and he knows it.
‘Make it stop’, ‘Make them go away,’ ‘Help’, he now laments.
link to twitter.com
‘We told you they were all just nasty people, not worthy of sharing the same rarified air as us proper journos on Twitter, but they were useful when you thought you needed them, now you see?’ say the Brit journos enjoying the schadenfreude of Pete Wishart having fewer and fewer allies anywhere.
@ Wee Chid: you’re right. The Rev is Andy Hamilton to the life – though younger of course [ahem].
Captain Yossarian @ 1:31
“Estonia’s Government has just collapsed in the midst of a corrution scandal. A bit like what’s going to happen here soon.”
I guess the current government does not have the morals or the courage of those who liberated the country three decades ago.
I read also that Estonia has a big ferry corruption scandal too:
link to news.postimees.ee
Dandee
Tap water?
Or manky African waterhole?
@Alf Baird
Thanks. Very informative. There was the Edinburgh uni research that I recall looked at some of these questions but I’ve no idea how robust the methods were https://blogs.sps.ed.ac.uk/scottishreferendumstudy/files/2015/03/Scottish-Referendum-Study-27-March-2015.pdf
o/t
The Medical profession in this country are straying into very dangerous territory the Nuremberg Code 1947 specifically forbids any medical procedure against any patients wishes or consent and yet we have today these trusted professionals asking for volunteers to allow themselves to be infected with this virus ,the reason for volunteers is to absolve them of any legal ramifications and blame if it all goes tits up, similar to the way pharmaceutical companies have been given total immunity for any harm done to the recipients of this vaccine .
Side effects were reported on the day the vaccine started being given since then no information ? either these side effects have all gone away or are they not being reported because it might be inconvenient and stop the vaccine juggernaut
James Che
Nobody with a White-faced Scops Owl as an avatar could ever be crazy in my books.
Angela Haggerty also complaining about the psychic comparison in another article lol! They’re gearing up for a lawsuit of some kind, aren’t they?
“Angela Haggerty also complaining about the psychic comparison in another article lol!”
Where’s she done that?
Captain Yossarian
Collapsed you say? So Estonia really is the model to follow.
Eileen Carson says:
17 February, 2021 at 12:58 pm
……. but ye’ll no mind us trying tae persuade ye differently?
Im open to rational and positive debate. Something that is sorely lacking across the entire political spectrum at the moment. People like me are there to be persuaded by reason, facts and civil discourse. Of course there are many on both side that are entrenched but many of us are not. And what we see scares us. And that’s the key…. only truth will really persuade people. In our current state the truth is a rare commodity indeed from our elected officials. But as I said before, it is encouraging to see and read the thoughts who have a “clean” view of what an Independent Scotland should be, and that makes the thought of it a lot less scary.
Re previous requests for info – got it now. Many thanks.
Took a quick sciffie over on comfee feets twitter.
Owe everyone an apology. In years past I have actually voted for the aresehole. Deeply sorry. Will never do so again.
For those who don’t know the area, please be aware, anything Pete says will receive full backing from Sweinney. Full.
Can only take comfort from the suspicion that he’s getting more and more strident. I wonder what the local funding/party membership figures are telling him.
One thing is clear, he knew what an asset wos was to the Indy movement just after 2014 – he publically acknowledged it. For him to be so strident now, is because he stands in a party that is not able to withstand public scrutiny, and their so called plan to achieve Indy, also cannot stand inspection.
All he can do now is try to demonise the messenger.
A question I have to ask, however, is after 20 years on full whack MP pay, what is it about his personal finances, that would make losing at the next GE, such a big issue for him, given the generous pension / seperance fee MPs get when ousted?
No wonder he does not want another Indyref party on the scene for Yessers to vote for, without the current Yes voters, as much as he keeps trying to woo the Tory vote in Perthshire, he won’t last seconds.
And also, for those still singing the ‘we need to clean out the snp from within’ – given the similar flight path to what happened to New Labour, now happening to New SNP – how many decades have Labourites been trying to get the wheels back onto Labour? 1970′, 1980′, 1990’s, ’00’s, ’10’s, ’20’s….
So, how’s that working out folks.
The biggest upset to the UK political system in the last 70 years has been Indyref 1. And that’s because the people got hold of the narrative and the press could not stop it.
The SNP are very much in tune with the establishment narrative now.
No longer a case of labour and torys being 2 sides of the same skelpit arse.
The SNP are now the third buttock.
@Sharon 2.09 pm
I saw that. Is she mad?
Alf: “ In our case the vast majority of Yes voters are Scots speakers clearly holding to a Scottish identity whereas this is much less the case for No voters, many if not most of whom are Anglophone and who hold to a British and/or other identity.”
That’s either tautological (pointless and self-confirming) or a pile of junk, depending on how you define things.
The Craig Murray verdict is taking an age.
Anyone have any idea if this means anything one way or the other?
James Horace says:
17 February, 2021 at 1:39 pm
“Wings trending strongly today…
Can I ask Rev, how have your site visits been across the last 24hours?”
Imagine if they actually read the Wings article.
Many obviously hadn’t because Mackay’s 2 page Herald slur had to be pointed out to them, even though it is in the Wings article.
Many even admit it as though it something to be proud of.
“Can I ask Rev, how have your site visits been across the last 24hours?””
Huge, as they have been all month. February is leaving January in the dirt, and January was our biggest month in years. We’ve already had 77% of the visits we had in the whole of January, and it’s only the 17th.
Good to hear Rev!
You have always been around 80% certain of Sturgeon being toppled due to her role in the Salmond stitch up.
But with the recent delays, the toothless inquiry, the enduring approval ratings, and still no other major leaks or smoking guns, do you still think there’s an 80% chance of her premiership ending over this?
Or is she looking a little bit safer now?
Hatuey
“That’s either tautological (pointless and self-confirming) or a pile of junk, depending on how you define things.”
Well, you might want to tell that to the Quebecois. They know for sure that it was specifically the Anglophone:Francophone language/cultural divide that cost them their independence, twice.
I can’t help it if you continue to ignore the extensive scientific evidence that the Scots language:
– “is a crucial and integral part of Scottish culture and identity (Open University 2019) and that;
– “it is linguistic perceptions that directly determine national identity (Medeiros 2017), or indeed that;
– “language is one of the factors that serves most effectively to define and unite a nation” (Scots-English Dictionary).
Moreover, our language explains who we are as well as how we think (Wittgenstein 1953; Spiers 2019). Consider that for a moment: ‘language explains WHO we are as well as HOW we (as a people) think’.
It is also worth bearing in mind that findings from the Quebec research: “reflects identity as very much ethnic driven rather than civic” and found that the poorly understood ‘civic nationalism’ rhetoric of Scotland’s political leaders does not adequately explain identity in the sense of belonging; hence “identity in the context of independence relies predominantly on ethnic markers” (Henderson 2007).
All of this research and more “implies that the Scottish independence battleground is in large part linguistically determined” (Baird 2020).
What evidence do you base your “pointless and self-confirming” observations on?
I am staying off twitter etc for now as I am completely overwhelmed at the amount of so called independence and Snp supporters being completely psycho towards anyone who is a critical thinker. (That’s everyone here as far as I am concerned.) I want indy more than anything but not with this bunch around. Thank God for your site Stu, I think I would go mad without the truth as I feel gaslighted at times by so called indy supporters/councillors/MP’s etc. This load of charlatans are not the SNP I know and voted for.
Stuart Mackay, my family and I appreciate your comment,
Daisy.
“The third buttock ”
Classic, because it rings true.
crisiscult @ 1:53
“Thanks. Very informative. There was the Edinburgh uni research that I recall looked at some of these questions but I’ve no idea how robust the methods were”
Thanks. Their results I think pretty much confirmed the Quebec findings on the importance of identity and sense of belonging in that:
“..the application of the marker of residence…is popularly considered to be a relatively weak marker that may be put forward as the basis for a Scottish identity. Claiming to ‘belong’ to Scotland based largely on residing in Scotland… is often seen as difficult both by migrants themselves and those who are born (to migrants) in Scotland” (Bond 2015).
The local government election franchise which is primarily based on residence that is used for Scottish national elections and referendums is especially flawed in this regard. A national referendum, especially on something as important as independence (i.e. constitutional matter/national sovereignty) would generally involve ‘secondary criteria’ which would tends to restrict the ‘voting power of recent inhabitants’ more in favour of the indigenous community, as was the case recently in the UN sanctioned New Caledonia referendum. No other country uses a local government/municipal franchise for national elections and referendums.
Use of the local government franchise by the Scottish Government may have served to inflate the ‘No’ vote by 25% or more in 2014. This also affects Holyrood election results of course, more unionists being returned than should be if there were ‘secondary criteria’ applied, as opposed to handing out sovereign national voting rights willy nilly to anybody who happens to have an address in Scotland.
This is what the SNP call ‘civic nationalism’, which effectively results in a major leakage of national sovereignty and arguably cost us our independence in 2014, and may do so again.
ITB71B
You should stick around. While the overwhelming majority here are pro-independence I for one would certainly like to hear what your qualms, for want of a better word, are.
I’m originally from up north and there’s never been too strong a showing for the SNP because, if our experience with the clowns in Inverness are anything to go by, it does not really matter whether the government is in Edinburgh or London the decisions are equally gormless.
Stuart MacKay says:
17 February, 2021 at 3:56
“I’m originally from up north and there’s never been too strong a showing for the SNP because, if our experience with the clowns in Inverness are anything to go by, it does not really matter whether the government is in Edinburgh or London the decisions are equally gormless.”
Actually, that’s a very good point. I’m in Moray and it certainly feels like we are forgotten about. Almost as if it’s Central belt or nothing, your point about Edinburgh or London is spot on. They are the same. I’ve always been an advocate of devolution but down to regional levels. Central seats of power have never seemed to me to be an positive in our lives.
My main concerns are education, the way the SNP are going with their policies I worry for my two “white male” children. Their education has been woeful and is certainly poor compared to their cousins who live in a better part of England( educationally only I must add). Anyway, I have many concerns I’m open to persuasion on, but this probably isn’t the thread. As I’ve said before, I could never vote for Indy under the SNP, and I wouldn’t trust them to dissolve AFTER Indy. If the ISP can pick up the baton and persuade with positive and factual persuasion without aggressive dividing politics and scandal then they will win the prize for sure.
See fit happens fan ye cannae spik proper ken: Youtube – Desperate Fishwives – The Caledonia Bank
Alf, I don’t want to discuss language with you again. I don’t have any emotional attachment to language. It’s just a tool, a means to an end. In an ideal world, we’d all speak the same language. It isn’t half as simple as you make out, though – the US is the most powerful country in all history and I get no sense from Americans that the English language represents their subordination.
My earlier point related to what you said about people who identify as Scottish voting for indy and those who identify as British voting against.
You use the word “anglophone” repeatedly, which strikes me as odd since English is the language that about 98% of Scotland relies upon. Of course, you call it Scots, I get it, but I can’t see much of a difference.
Here we are, exchanging ideas in English.
She wrote on Twitter that you referred to her a “Gypsy” in one of the Wings articles.
Rev. Stuart Campbell says:
Where’s she done that?
@Stuart MacKay & ITB71B
Most countries have similar capital vs. provinces issues though, or richer states/provinces vs. poorer. ‘Twas ever thus. Even in small countries many of us aspire to emulate like the Nordics or Ireland you’ll find folk complaining about being ruled from Copenhagen, or the overweening influence of Dublin etc. In fact it is often worse in these places because one very large city or conurbation totally dominates (Copenhagen, Oslo, Dublin, Helsinki) in terms of population, wealth, infrastructure and connectivity.
You could even argue Scotland isn’t *quite* as bad because – even if the central belt dominates – because you have Dundee, Aberdeen and an E/W split in the central belt?
I agree that devolution of more power to local/regional/county/municipality government would be helpful post indy, but then there is also a place for some things to be done and/or standards to be set nationwide. Education would seem to be a case in point: lots of people seem to agree we could learn a lot from the Finnish example, so why not set that as an aspiration of where we’d like our system to reach? A big part of that has to come from central government, even if you enhance and prioritise the role of local authorities.
As for the (God willing) dissolution of the SNP post indy, I’ve always seen it as one of the huge positives of indy that after it happens, we can totally re-cast the Scottish political environment. We don’t want old wine in new bottles. Before the SNP so spectacularly failed to deliver, I always assumed they would naturally be in a predominant position in the immediate post indy period. After the past few years, I not only hope that WON’T be the case, I’d actively campaign to make sure the SNP are defeated if not actually destroyed. They have demonstrated recently that they are illiberal, politically regressive, institutionally corrupt, and ideologically clueless.
A STV system post indy (and the SNP’s own rank stupidity and lack of political judgement) will help ensure that no party will ever find itself in the kind of predominant position the SNP has been gifted now.
Much as I wish it otherwise, we are probably stuck with the SNP for the time being. Hopefully the rank and file within the party will rise up and clear out the unsavoury cabal currently eating the party from within. If not, then so be it. No party is owed allegiance, votes or access to power. I’ve lost faith that A “Real Independence Party” can be set up in time to do much good in the short term. I can understand why the high profile names who might have brought it about are hesitant: it’s a huge step, and look at the monstering people like Salmond, Cherry, McAlpine, MacAskill get on a routine basis.
If they had made a move (or even if they still do in the short/medium term) the SNP would have a meltdown, because they know there is a growing appetite for something different. They are absolutely terrified at the prospect. The alternative new party doesn’t need to be huge, it just needs to be big enough to deprive them of power. That’s an eminently achievable aim. Given current circumstances, and absent some political earthquake, we have 5 years after #HR2021 to build it: the question is, will they come?
Captain Yossarian @ 1:16
“People are set-up nowadays. Not only Alex Salmond.”
As a recent observer of what passes for justice in Scotland I have to agree. Moorov also seems widely used, and ‘creative’ copfs/police narratives the norm. Most defendants don’t have access to the best legal advice either (unlike Alex, Craig and Mark), and their rights are often ignored, as Dame Elish’s recent report found.
I would tend to liken this to a rather colonial type of justice system given its main purpose seems to be to oppress the natives. Fanon tells us how that usually pans out and it is not pleasant, for either side. Unfortunately barbarism is seldom far off in a colonial situation and independence then becomes both essential and inevitable. Indeed most peoples seek independence to escape oppression and Scotland seems little different, given what we are witnessing, which is only a small part of the story.
I see the BBC is still referring to the Salmond enquiry rather than the enquiry into the Scottish Government
Hatuey @ 4:52
“Alf, I don’t want to discuss language with you again.”
That’s a pity, I enjoy a good scientific debate. But I admit you seem to be lacking in theoretical evidence (aside from promoting, perhaps unknowingly, linguistic imperialism), so probably best call it a day.
People now realise ,if you want to know what is happening in Scottish Politics, WINGS is the only truthful Site on the internet.Once Alex Salmond appears at the Holyrood Committee your “Hits” on your website will be Astronomical,Simply because it tells it as it is .
But, Alf, that’s the problem. What you’re arguing really rests on feelings and emotions, not science. Culture, for example, is a meaningless term unless you subscribe to definitions and paradigms that have no place in scientific study.
It’s also clear to me now, where it wasn’t before, that you are essentially a Marxist of sorts. That leaves you even more compromised, as I see it, because if Marx wanted to be anything, he wanted to be scientific.
I’d be all too glad to help you resolve these contradictions but thus far you have shown no sign that you’d be willing to move beyond an outlook that to my mind has all the hallmarks of superstition.
And it doesn’t help that others chip in on your side giving you encouragement when you’re so wrong – at that point we move from opposing your superstition to opposing a sort of cult.
We can argue for independence without recourse to “4 legs good, 2 legs bad” nonsense and voodoo. That’s what’s lost in all this.
Andy Ellis,
I remember when there were mayors and much more in the way of local councils. Sure we all moaned at how they were all a bunch of duffers. Then came along the regions and the duffers just got a bigger playpen to flounder around in.
For a scattered population with some very low densities technology is our friend. You could decentralise the people who deal with the population but still have centralised infrastructure or at least centrally developed infrastructure that helped with the workload. There’s a huge experiment in democracy that we could have – pushing out decision to the places they matter most and void one-size fits all solutions – yes Highland Regional Council and your nonsensical Gaelic road-signs in Caithness, I’m looking at you.
Anyways it seems that in a lot of ways folks like ITB71B are on the same page. Given what we’ve seen so far there’s a whole new set of politics that needs to be developed further. The SNP are in some ways prisoners of the past – look how easy they were colonised by the loony left. Bright people with energy and ideas could transform the country. It does not really matter what colour their politics are.
@Stuart MacKay 6.37pm
Recent events have reinforced my belief that having the broader Yes movement essentially captured by one party has been a huge strategic mistake. Thinking you we could somehow shoe-horn everyone that was pro-indy into one party (which professed itself to be a progressive, left of centre, social democratic party) only really works for a limited period before it starts to implode.
There is certainly room for a second pro-indy force now, represented by folk like Salmond, Cherry et al. The Sturgeonistas, gradualists and sophomoric woke Wahhabis can keep the SNP: I wouldn’t touch it with a ten foot pole now.
The thing is the latter faction in particular lack even the basic self awareness to see that they have hitched their wagon to the wrong engine: at least some of them had the minimal amount of self awareness to flounce off and join their co-religionists in the Scottish Greens. The rest are left in an unhappy juxtaposition with neo-liberal, Charloote Street Partner spivs essentially promoting the continuation of the UK but with our own passports and foreign office.
A new party committed to republicanism and a much more progressive platform politically and socially could – with the right big hitters to the fore – immediately take a big chunk of the SNPs base. Given our voting system, that’s easily enough to hold the balance in Holyrood.
No more playing nice: we shouldn’t be coming to praise the SNP, but to bury it.
Hatuey @ 6:23
“What you’re arguing really rests on feelings and emotions, not science. Culture, for example, is a meaningless term unless you subscribe to definitions and paradigms that have no place in scientific study.”
I’m afraid that is just total ignorance, and I say that as someone who used to teach and research organisational behaviour, in which culture forms a major part. Academics always look for and seek to develop and present scientific evidence. You appear to know very little about culture, or about language for that matter, as is evident from this discussion.
Society has benefitted from centuries of scientific study on culture which has given us numerous theories on (far from an exhaustive list):
– cultural imperialism (Tomlinson)
– cultural colonialism (Memmi)
– cultural assimilation/cultural domination (Spiers)
– cultural hegemony (Gramsci)
– cultural cringe (Beveridge & Turnbull)
– cultural inferiorisation (Fanon)
– dislocated culture (Burns)
– clandestine culture (Fanon)
– cultural illusion (Gaughan)
– national cultural inheritance (Henderson)
– deferential civic culture (Almond & Verba)
– enculturation (Bourdieu & Passeron)
– cultural alienation
– cultural oppression (Kernohan)
– cultural ambivalence
I can only suggest you might wish to read up on some of these theories.
Alf, I’m going to be reasonable and ask you (again) to define Scottish cultural traits that are shared by a majority of Scots. That’s reasonable because I’m not asking for traits shared by all.
It’s interesting that language couldn’t possibly be an example. When I say interesting, I mean like a torpedo is interesting when it sinks a ship. That’s a big loss for you.
Culturalism, racism, nationalism, cultism, sectarianism, bigotry, all branches on the same divisive tree.
If your beliefs were unifying rather than divisive, I’d possibly grudgingly tolerate them in silence. They don’t help though. Your ideas on this stuff don’t help the argument for independence.
My argument for independence doesn’t exclude anyone. That makes it superior to yours.
Hatuey
“Your ideas on this stuff don’t help the argument for independence.”
I’m quoting established theory and scientific evidence, which you believe doesn’t exist. Presumably that’s because it doesn’t fit a narrow uninformed bigoted and prejudiced viewpoint.
You probably don’t like the idea of Scots language and Scottish culture because its not something you identify with or perhaps know much about. But you shouldn’t be prejudiced against Scottish culture and language, because that would be xenophobic.
@ Hatuey says:
17 February, 2021 at 8:53 pm
Alf, I’m going to be reasonable and ask you (again) to define Scottish cultural traits that are shared by a majority of Scots. ‘
Is that like super powers, as in when they hand out super powers and Scots are last in the que, what super powers will they get?
Extra doses of Sarcasm I’d say, but what do I know. At least its cheap and can be quite cutting.
Why is my postings not going up. Have I been banned? I hope not.
Pervert?
Hatuey @ 8:53
“define Scottish cultural traits that are shared by a majority of Scots.”
Language is a cultural trait. As in the ‘Scots’ language spoken by many of the ‘Scottish’ people, and who are a minority people speaking a minority language within the UK.
This is despite the fact UK state authorities refuse to teach and give authority to Scots language, which is in violation of human rights.
According to the Council of Europe most recent report on Minority Languages, the following action is recommended by UK authorities – link to search.coe.int
I. Recommendations for immediate action
a. Provide forms and means for the teaching and study of Scots at all appropriate stages.
II. Further recommendations
b. Take steps to ensure the maintenance and development of links, in the fields covered by this Charter, between groups in the State using Scots and on the establishment of cultural relations with other linguistic groups.
c. Take steps to promote transnational exchanges, in the fields covered by this Charter, for the benefit of Scots.
d. Promote mutual understanding between all the linguistic groups of the country, promote the inclusion of respect, understanding and tolerance in relation to Scots among the objectives of education and training, encourage the mass media to include respect, understanding and tolerance in relation to Scots among their objectives, take into consideration the needs and wishes expressed by groups using Scots, establish a body for the purpose of advising the authorities on all matters pertaining to Scots.
e. Provide facilities enabling non-speakers of Scots to learn the language.
“You can’t ask for more from a day than making this sleazy wee sexual pervert weep”
Can you explain why he is as you describe?
I watched the video to see why he was responsible for you setting up Wings.To save me watching it again, can you give me the start time for the anecdote please?
Thanks
“I watched the video to see why he was responsible for you setting up Wings.To save me watching it again, can you give me the start time for the anecdote please?”
About 2m 30s.