Never heard of him either. Interesting indeed, and quite unusual to see an American espousing basic socialist ideas without people immediately bursting into tears.
Must try and find out about the dude – looks like he’s been around a while.
(How about Cameron B? You’re familiar with a lot of these obscure characters – you ever come across Bernie Sanders before?)
Paula Rose
9 years ago
What is it with you boys – never heard of Bernie? Its been the main story of the American campaign amongst progressive folk! Do you not have contacts on social media with like-minded folk across the globe!
(new comment re Saturday coming soon)
Kelpie
9 years ago
Hi Wingers,
I was hoping to catch up with you all again in George Square this weekend. Unfortunately family reasons are taking me inescapably away.
Hope you all have a grand day and with more hope for the future than seemed possible this time last year.
CameronB Brodie
9 years ago
Ian Brotherhood
He’s been a thorn in the side of the Anglo /American Establishment for some time now. I don’t think the Koch side of Wall Street likes him either. The last time he was on my radar he was pretty isolated. I hadn’t been aware that he was news. Perhaps it’s a sign that change can’t be held back.
I think he’s an Independent of the small “c” conservative variety, which I suppose now counts for ‘socialist’ in the USA.
Joy of joys – my latest winged Knight in shining armour – Archie [not Erchie] will be bringing me to Glasgow on Saturday. Driving from Aberdeen he will pick me up in Brechin.
There is space on the luggage rack for a couple of others so if you want to be able to say to your grandchildren in years to come –
@ Paula Rose You better wear your Feather Boa or Archie ( not Erchie)might miss you at the pickup point.
Conan the Librarian™
9 years ago
Trying one more time.
Is anything organized for Friday?
Brian Doonthetoon
9 years ago
Hi Conan the Librarian.
Re Friday. March in Edinburgh. Not sure of times – try a search on other Wings pages (Edinburgh might work).
57 (%) white roses being laid at the Mercat Cross in Dundee at 12.30. Yes Rutherglen party in the evening. YES flag flying from my window all day.
George Square on Saturday. (See ‘off-topic’).
CameronB Brodie
9 years ago
Ach, why not? This one going out to Rupert Murdoch.
As someone said on the main thread – where has Bugger (the panda) disappeared to. Does anyone know if he’s ok?
I thought I had his email address but can’t find it.
ronnie Anderson
9 years ago
@ Conan Friday 18th: King’s Stables Rd – 10am. March to Holyrood.
Betty Boop
9 years ago
@ Ronnie Anderson
@ Paula Rose
Jings, reading the comments above, Archie (not Erchie), a “winged Knight in shining armour”, and Paula’s arrival in Glasgow, feather boa flying in the breeze, might be like a scene from Priscilla Queen of the Desert!
Cannae wait 😉
Archie [not Erchie]
9 years ago
@ Ronnie – Feather boa? And me in kilt? What a combo!
@ Betty Boop – You dinna know the half! Paula wants to be ‘onboard entertainment officer’ – Pray for me! 🙂
Finlay
9 years ago
If there is a seat on the bus left then I would love to fill it!
CameronB Brodie
9 years ago
This one going out to Fozzie Carbuncle, who is perhaps learning that you have to respect other, in order to gain their respect in return.
P.S. I’m not suggesting Fozzie is in the KKK but the rest just fitted too well. 🙂
Conan the Librarian™
9 years ago
@ X_sticks
Just emailed him.
@Ronnie, I’m working Friday might might turn up anyway…
Finlay
9 years ago
Archie [Not Erchie] and I are driving down from Aberdeen to Glasgow on Saturday morning (via Brechin to pick up Paula Rose) and we have two seats spare for anyone who fancies them.
Post here or email me if you could use a free lift. 🙂
finlaymair [at] gmail [dot] com
Paula Rose
9 years ago
Gosh TWO handsome beaus escorting me to Glasgow!
Conan the Librarian™
9 years ago
@ X_sticks
innerbearsden at gmail dot com
Finlay
9 years ago
Paula
I’ll be your taxi driver for life if you can spot a UKOK sticker on the trip down! 😀
My majestic steed has a solitary heated seat for you and Archie to debate over, there is also an audio input for the radio so feel free to bring some tunes.
X_Sticks
9 years ago
I won’t be at the rally at Glasgow because I am going to the Alliance for Scotland event in Dundee:
This was postponed from earlier this year. Some good speakers there.
So anyone from the Dundee area who can’t make it to Glasgoe might want to go along to this.
Sorry I’ll miss many Wingers at Glasgow, but I hope to see you all at the Edinburgh get together on the 26th. (lookin at you Bdtt 😀 )
Paula Rose
9 years ago
Oh goodie a taxi driver for life! Knew it was sensible of me not to have scraped it off the lamp-post! ( I presume Finlay honey, you mean any bt/no sticker )
Finlay
9 years ago
Hmm. Ok, If we see a single car with a Better Together, No Thanks, UKOK, Tory, Lib Dem or Labour sticker then my soul is forfeit! 😛
However if we don’t… you can pay for lunch! 😛
Placing my bets on the silent majority being extra silent this weekend, not sure why though.
Paula Rose
9 years ago
Silly boy changes rules and expects free lunch – we may be an hour late fellow wingers.
Archie [not Erchie]
9 years ago
@ Paula Rose – Late? Well that buggers up the hired gold confetti cannons and prancing pink unicorns on your arrival. Sheesh!
Paula Rose
9 years ago
Then have a word with Finlay about upsetting schedules.
David
9 years ago
(Based on “Urban Guerrilla” by Hawkwind. A top 40 tune in 1973, back when Labour were a little less right-wing.)
“Corbyn Guerrilla”
I’m a Corbyn guerrilla
I write for Morning Star in my cellar
I’m a Westminster dweller
I’m an Independence killer.
I’m a Tory-fighting dancer
I’m a revolutionary chancer
In the body politic I’m the cancer
I’m a Tooting Popular front ‘Panther’.
So let’s not talk of union powers
Before Kezia’s head explodes
We’ve kicked out all that Blairite shower
Triangulating us down the wrong road.
I’m a hard-left political bandit
And the Beeb don’t understand it
Blairites took my party and damned it
Just the way Thatcher planned it.
Fabian Society’s disruptor
I’m a Trident bomb destructor
Son of Islington bus conductor
I’m the people’s debt collector.
So watch out Mister Cameron
Your empire’s about to blow
I think you’d better listen, man
In case you did not know.
I’m a Corbyn guerrilla
I’m friends with Denis Skinner
I never sing the anthem
I get my suits from Oxfam.
I’m a Corbyn guerrilla
I support Alex Tsipras
I’m a Corbyn guerrilla
Last year I got my bus pass
I’m a Corbyn guerrilla
I love the guys in Hamas.
If he survives, Corbyn could be good for Labour in England, but he is going to be subjected to super-strength monstering from the MSM.
Scottish Labour is a corpse, he may try to reanimate it, but at best it would only be a zombie party, run from London.
Brian Doonthetoon
9 years ago
Hi X_Sticks.
Re Alliance Convention.
This is a post I’ve just done on the “YES Dundee and Surrounding Areas Events & Information” Facebook page.
“Has anyone heard anything about the Yes Alliance Conference, organised by Dom Anderson, that was supposed to take place in January but was postponed until Saturday, 19th September?
I know a guy who is coming down from Aberdeen for this event – but I have seen nothing about it on pro-indy events pages, like this one.
I contacted Dom in January on how to get a refund on tickets I had bought through yesconnect.scot and got no reply. I’ve emailed him again tonight, because the tickets are of no use to me, as I’ll be in George Square on Saturday.
When I log into yesconnect.scot, it says I have no events.”
“A message that you sent to the following recipient could not be delivered due to a permanent error. ** The remote server 212.227.15.41 responded with: ** dom@allianceforscotland.org.uk 550:Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable This message was created automatically by mail delivery software on the server avasout02.”
Methinks, perchance, this event is not happening…
Brian Doonthetoon
9 years ago
I’ve found out, via Facebook, from Dom Anderson himself, that the Alliance event in Dundee has been cancelled.
X_Sticks
9 years ago
@BrianDtt
Thanks Brian. Yup – event cancelled – no notification apart from post on facebook.
Still not sure if I can do Glasgow, got a wedding reception in Banchory in the evening.
I’ll need to revise plans to see what I can do. Will be at Glasgow if I can.
caz-m
9 years ago
Ronnie Anderson, Brian and Co,
I have been up to no good as usual and still fighting for Independence.
I haven’t talked to you Ronnie since you came back from holiday. I met Brian with his son and his partner in crime at Pacific Quay in August.
I will be there on Saturday with Martyn.
Really up for this one.
I hope you are all well. I also got presented with a Ronnie Anderson special edition badge in the Clutha pub after the BBC protest. (Anderson Tartan). Will have it with me on Saturday.
See you all tomorrow.
Hello there Stoker, hope to see you tomorrow, enjoyed my wee day out in August and the chat we had in the Clutha.
Paula Rose
9 years ago
Giddy with excitement darlings – not only Archie [not Erchie] and Finlay but also hunky X_Sticks escorting me to Glasgow! Swoon xx
Thistle
9 years ago
Livestreaming Hope Over Fear tomorrow. If anybody about give me a wee shout. Del should also be kicking around and a couple of others from IndyLive
I’ll be taking pics tomorrow then heading to Yes bar for a half lager with a marachino cherry and an umbrella – possibly in a durty glass, I haven’t decided.
Ian Brotherhood
9 years ago
So, we start another ‘year’ tomorrow, in Freedom Square.
What are the social plans for ra morra? I will come and find you at George Square but am working for most of the day….what time are you planning to be there from and till?
If all else fails I take it we will all find each other at the Yes Bar?
am hoping to be in the square tomorrow along with the Bold Joff, and one or two perhaps of the Miss Effies.
Is there a particular bit/banner you gather at…?
Have been defrosting my freezer today. A total arseache of a job. Long overdue.
Still much nicer than results night…
Betty Boop
9 years ago
Natasha, if you are lurking about, good luck. Missing seeing your posts, but, understand.
Betty Boop
9 years ago
@ Quinie
I would check all the bars working your way out from the square! 😉
X_Sticks
9 years ago
@Quinie
I’ll only be there until about 2:30. Need to get back to Aberdeen for a wedding reception in the evening.
I hope I manage to see you there.
Betty Boop
9 years ago
@ X_Sticks
Re Alliance Convention. I am sure I got refund when they first postponed the event. I didn’t want to take the chance it would get off the ground later, rightly, as it seems, and preferred to cancel.
I also had second thoughts regarding whether it was really about supporting indy.
cearc
9 years ago
Have fun tomorrow and pat the horse’s arse from me.
caz-m wrote:
“Hello there Stoker, hope to see you tomorrow, enjoyed my wee day out in August and the chat we had in the Clutha.”
Ditto!
Sorry, mate, no can do, family problems.
Thanks for the ‘Yes2’ badge btw, stuck it straight onto my Saltire patch on my hat as soon as i got back home and there it’ll stay. Hope you all have a great day tomorrow, the fight rumbles on!
_______________
Just received one of those new Facebook alerts in my junk box:
“Pamela Anderson and Super-Gonorrhoea are Trending on Facebook”
Mmmmm, charming, made me laugh though.
Stay safe troops!
Ian Brotherhood
9 years ago
Here’s one for the Haters and Hothersalls, Fearties and Fannies (not that they’ll ever see this, or ‘get’ it anyroad…)
Another one for those who see us as typical bleedin’-heart lefty usual suspects. It’s a song all about not wanting to know about ‘evil’, only wanting to know about ‘love’.
Anyone needing transport between fife and glasgow tomorrow leave me word here. room for 2 maybe 3.
Bob Sinclair
9 years ago
I’m so sorry I missed most of HOF but a little traffic tailback wasn’t going to stop me being there I made it with just enough time.
To all the Wingers who once again worked their collective asses off to raise funds that will feed people, thanks, you are true heroes and it was great to see you again. Same time nxt week in Edinburgh, looking fwd to it.
handclapping
9 years ago
When does the AGB do kick off? Thanks.
Ian Brotherhood
9 years ago
What a buzz, seeing all the ‘old’ faces and meeting some new ones.
Won’t even attempt a name-check as I’ll just make an arse of it, but what a showing that was by the Wingers today – in time we’ll arrive at a definite number, but by my reckoning there must have been at least 20 of us there, and not far off that number present between, say, 1.30 – 2.30. A lot of us meeting for the first time.
(I heard tell the bold Kininvie was there, but didn’t clap eyes on him!)
Ye’s are pure braw by the way, so ye’s are…
🙂
Ian Brotherhood
9 years ago
Imagine how galling it must’ve been for the BBC to allow these people in as ‘performers’… and then tote-up what they’d necked in the Green Room.
The Pogues and Dubliners, on Top of The Pops, in 1987 –
Bummer you weren’t there, you’d’ve loved it, especially seeing all the ‘new’ faces.
Hope all’s well with you and the wee birdies.
Hoots, cheers, and love
XXX
Archie [not Erchie]
9 years ago
Back from a sooopah day at Freedom Square with wonderful Wingers popping out of the leaden skies like clouds of midgies.
No hairy string on show – Lots of silver duck tape and tie wraps to secure flagpoles and passing dusky maidens. [Oooh Paula!]
Thanks to all and esp. Finlay for driving us to/from Glasgow.
I have loads of photos but will post them somewhere accessible in the morning. Ronnie kept me in order with his beady eye while the other eye was checking out ne’er do wells.
Thanks guy and gals.
X_Sticks
9 years ago
Made it!
Braw day, slightly the worse for wear.
So glad I made and such a good day meeting so many Wingers I hadn’t met before that I had long wished to meet. Especially Nana, Al and the Macintoshes.
Big thanks to Finley for the list down. Wouldn’t have made it otherwise.
See you all soon
Loce you all.
Archie [not Erchie]
9 years ago
ok a bunch of photos to upload to a suitable website. Any recommendations?
ronnie anderson
9 years ago
@ Archie [not Erchie] The Glesga sunshine must hiv byled your heid. You & Findlay were Be-Knighted by the fair hand of Paula Rose who was appointed the Custodian of the Curly Hairy String.
Hiv you caught any Black Widows lately ( an thats another story for the annuals of the Wingers get togthers)lol.
Archie [not Erchie]
9 years ago
@ Ronnie – Aye the Black Widow who didnt deny assisting her husband’s demise. 🙂
Paula kept us entertained with SKA/Punk music on the way up North. Whit a groover mover she is!
Heres the link for my photos from yesterday. No names
@ Cearc 11.02 Be Alert there that wummin.
The Erse we were under wiz sir Walter Scotts ,we hiv enough tae cairy tae these events, an a Fortyfit ladders ah no go, an he,s no oan ah horse oonyhow.LOL XXX.
ronnie anderson
9 years ago
@ Archie [not erchie] Nice photo,s ,name that manny giving hugs 16th photo lol,ah got caught out in Indroducing Wingers ah forgot his name.
Archie [not Erchie]
9 years ago
@ Ronnie – 16th photo is JLT greetin on Nana’s shoulder.
David
9 years ago
Hello Archie [not Erchie], is it OK if I put a link to your photos on my Twitter page?
I’d be good if more people get the chance to see them, especially since the Scottish media (yeah, I’m looking at YOU, Auntie Beeb!) are doing their best to ignore the rally.
You can see why the MSM really dislike these events, because they show ordinary people having fun, no hate-filled ‘Cybernats’ in view. Nothing for the MSM to show as .vile separatists’. Just ordinary people who want to live in an ordinary country, their own country.
The second photo is a great pic of the whole crowd filling the square. I also like the pic of the monument that has been stickered, I just hope Ian Murray MP doesn’t have nightmares if he sees it!
cearc
9 years ago
Ronnie,
Yep, me being dopey. It must have been the delirium of sucessfully getting my last incubator hatchlings fobbed off on a hen with a week old brood. She seemed delighted that her four chicks had turned into 8 and a duckling overnight.
PS. I wouldn’t expect you to kiss Scott’s arse even if it were on the ground!
Betty Boop
9 years ago
Well, here’s what we can remember from the HOF rally.
Wingers who made themselves known:
Ronnie Anderson
Briandoonthetoon
Pete the camera
Caz-M
Kininvie
Ian Brotherhood
JLT
Paula Rose
Finlay
Archie (not Erchie)
X_Sticks
Wee Ginger Dug
Kendomacaroonbar
Taranaich
Geraldine
Moidart
Quinie fae Angus
Cactus
Gillian
Nana Smith
Hevvabeccywoss
Indigo
Effie
Bob Sinclair
Jim Thomson
Betty Boop
Sand
Lanarkist
Irene King
John King
Tinto Chjel
Dorothy
Castlemilk Chavy
Effigy
Del (IndLive)
Thistle
Sonia (Dundee) plus sister and husband
So, at least 39 Wingers. If I have left anyone off the list (worse than being on the list!!!)’ apologies and please feel free to add names.
Ain’t we smashin’. Thanks all for a great and successful day. Loved it.
It was good to meet up at the Wings Embassy yesterday and my apologies that I wasnt able to stick around longer.
My Father, Ronnie, gave me a vigoursly quick rub down with a broken Newkie Broon screwtop this afternoon for neglecting my duties, and stipulated that I wear the That’sMeTelt badge of shame for 24 hours 🙂
Nana Smith, can you send me your e mail address please to kenmcdonald1(at)btopenworld(dot)com
Betty Boop
9 years ago
Sorry, forgot:
Jock Scot
Ninja Penguin
Norman Smith (Nana’s husband)
So, 42 is the latest tally.
Betty Boop
9 years ago
Martyn in da’s hoose
Yer oan the list too!
Up to 43 fabulous Wingers
Archie [not Erchie]
9 years ago
@ David – Please feel free to link to the photos. The more folk see that we are just normal people [apart from Ronnie] the better 😉
Brian Doonthetoon
9 years ago
Hi Betty Boop.
Add Croompenstein to your list – and Hoss Macintosh and Alan Macintosh.
BTW: “Castlemilk Chavy” is actually Castlehills Chavie.
Paula Rose
9 years ago
Darlings – fabulous meeting so many of you yesterday and grateful thanks to Archie [not Erchie] and Finlay for getting me there and safely home.
For those of you who missed it the first time (Ian Brotherhood) here is the proof that John McTernan is worth every penny. A certain Ukist blog was unavailable from twitter a while back…
I reckon there were at least 49 Wingers as there are at least three missing from ‘the List’ ( proud to be on that one as well as the MFI one)
Below is a wee ‘after gig’ video from the Clutha with my apologies for the crap post-production which I couldn’t be ersed doing..lazy I know but lack of sleep and the wish to put this out a.s.a.p is my excuse. It’s on the YEW CHOOB supplemental channel but is unlisted as I thought we limit it to the ‘family’
With reference to having lost ‘Ronnie’s erse shot’ in the first video..I’ve just found it but will only ‘go public’ if Ronnie consents or there is so much of an outcry that the material is released under an FOI request.
Also..many thanks to the Yes Rutherglen Wingers who invited me to their Shindig the previous evening and for providing a bed for a travelling CHOOBER.X
Brian Doonthetoon
9 years ago
From Jock’s video, for the list, I offer ‘Triangular Ears’.
David
9 years ago
@ Archie [not Erchie], thanks!
For me, social media is excellent, because I am outside the UK and yet I can keep connected to what is really happening in Scotland through articles, pics, etc. put online by Wingers.
I keep in touch with what is being spun as the news in Scotland by reading the MSM. 🙂
Brian Doonthetoon
9 years ago
Hi Crazycat.
You got definite names for your +2 for name badges for next Saturday’s Embra get-together?
Anyone else going next week: if you want a name badge, do a post with the name you want on the badge in Quarantine (link at bottom left of this page), if you haven’t done so already.
All badge requests have to be in by 11.59pm on Wednesday, 23rd September.
Once the thread gets going, most of the input is from me (specially since September 2013); most of the comments are from ex-pats.
Bob Sinclair
9 years ago
Brian,
Can you add me to your badge list. Thanks.
Nana Smith
9 years ago
Well that’s us back home after a hectic weekend. Wonderful meeting all the beautiful wingers. Paula Rose, how you manage to walk on those heels, well I’m soooo jealous!
And Finlay you stood me up, but I will forgive as you were in good company. Ronnie and everyone I missed saying cheerio to you as we got waylaid by friends and ended up going for a meal.
Click on each of the graphics to get the larger, readable version. You may also find the BTL comments educational and amusing.
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For those of you who enjoyed Dundee’s ‘Twa Tenors’ yesterday – they’ll be on stage at the rally in Dundee on 4th October.
This is for Jim T and Betty Boop…
@ cearc talking aboot erses, the Clutha vidio by Yew Choob Jock Scott,you,ll need tae watch the directors cut & Happy Birthday tae the wee chookie hens N duck xx.
@ Archie [no erchie] thats the fulla JTL lol ,hi JTL.An whit dey U mean normal people except Ronnie,is it the wie ah walk,explain yerself Mr ,an nae refferences tae Cearc wee Duck lol. An U better watch oot ah could be in a place near U soon lol.
@ Betty Boop You missed oot NinjaP,s Husband & Son.
@ Nana Kevin/Delboy (livestream) got the plaque & said thanks muchly,ah never even got ah keek at them, Hi Norman.
Brian Doonthetoon
9 years ago
Hi peeps.
I took a wee tickie snaps yesterday. You can see them here:-
I saw Paula Rose attempting to conceal the hairy string in her cleavage, but she surreptitiously removed it shortly thereafter as it was too itchy.
Great to see the list above – more than 40 Wingers? 🙂
JLT – how did I miss you? 🙁
Best Dressed Winger of the Day (Male) – Taranaich
(No other awards are being made as no-one else has been nominated in any other categories.)
ronnie anderson
9 years ago
An another name missed from the Sat list Graeme Doig.
Finlay [NOT HECTOR!]
9 years ago
@Nana Smith
I’m so sorry! I got myself into an interesting discussion with Ian Brotherhood and Taranaich and it’s a crime to prematurely leave a stimulating conversation!
I thought I’d be getting a free lunch from Paula this weekend but I think it is I who owes you a free lunch now. Damn. Oh well! There aren’t many people who I’d rather spend lunch with than yourself. Maybe the gorgeous Paula Rose. 😉
Lovely meeting you and Norman and I hope we can all make the event on October 24th so I may repent!
@Ian Brotherhood and Taranaich
Pleasure to meet you two, there are not many people who can produce a powerful enough chat to make a man miss lunch with Nana Smith!
@Ed Winchester Doonthetoon
A one off change of pseudonym – especially for you. 😛
@Archie[Not Erchie], X-Sticks and Paula Rose
Pleasure driving down with you guys, thanks for the tunes Paula and thanks for keeping me awake on the road back Archie!
Pity you had to leave so soon X-Sticks however the quality of your company more than exceeded the quantity.
A momentous honour to have been stroked by the stunning Paula Rose (and to have my beard fondled by a random passer-by; a Paula Rose wannabe?).
@Jock Scot
I don’t know why I was so sleepy driving home… perhaps one or two of the anecdotes were a tad too much for me… A bridge too far! 😉 Hope you found a suitable Ronnie approved receptacle for your snotty Jura!
@Ronnie
What a cheeky fellow! Great craic. Especially loved the story of your silver-tongued flag flipping. I hope everyone is o’er the moon today. Perhaps Pete can make you a flashy new badge! 😉
@All the Wingers I met yesterday
What a day! My absolute pleasure meeting the Wings Family and experiencing yesterdays event. Some memories to last a lifetime!
Shame I couldn’t get enough time with some of you, will need to meet up again soon.
If a cause can be measured by the quality of its participants then I think you guys and girls raise the bar higher than Jim Murphy in a glue factory!
All of my love.
Finlay
Finlay
9 years ago
@Ian Brotherhood
I have a nomination for Best Undressed Winger of the Day (Male).
ronnie anderson
9 years ago
Oh slap ma face wie ah wet haddie, how could I miss Jan / Patrician & Gerry Parker,sos gerry ah never got over tae speak tae U.
Betty Boop
9 years ago
53 Wingers !!! with all those recently added, ie
Triangular Ears,
Ninja P’s husband and son,
Graeme Doig
Gerry Parker
Jan
Patrician
I know we had some lurkers too, but, no idea how many 🙂
Any more bids?
Apologies to anybody missed and Gerry, didn’t see you there – I must have been waving the iScots about and shouting about the new Scottish media.
Incredible – Even more fabulous.
Finlay
9 years ago
I made a big post earlier which hasn’t appeared and I didn’t save it. If it doesn’t appear by tomorrow I’ll rewrite. 🙁
Quinie frae Angus
9 years ago
Loved meeting Wingers auld and new.
X-Sticks, sorry I missed you, though. Next time, maybe.
Finlay, you have a nomination for the most Selfless Winger of the day.
Paula Rose
9 years ago
And also Quinie most definitely Finlay is the handsomist young man ever to sport a beard – swoon!
Quinie frae Angus
9 years ago
Oh definitely, Paula – he is indeed. I could tell you were sweet on him! You’re one very lucky lady, getting a ride from him all the way up the Angus glens.
I look forward to hearing all the juicy details.
ronnie anderson
9 years ago
@ Finlay You were welcomed by all the Wingers yesterday, now welcome to the bain of Wings, GCHQ interception your lost post goes via Cheltenham lol.
Paula Rose
9 years ago
Quinie honey – you know that old joke about “what’s worn under the kilt? Nothing – it’s all in perfect working order”? In Archie [not Erchie]‘s case – that is soooo true!
Well Paula, I am not surprised. Archie kindly walked me down the road from the Square to the Clutha and I was most impressed at the way his kilt was swinging, this way and that.
I am now most intrigued and look forward to hearing more.
Finlay
9 years ago
@Ronnie
Is it ever coming back? Best post I’ve ever written! Maybe it is sitting in a box next to Lanarkist’s massive Mi5 file.
I’m not long back from work. I don’t have the mental capacity left to rewrite it again tonight and I have to get up for work again in about 5 hours. 🙁
@Quinie frae Angus
If nominated I’ll decline. If drafted I’ll defer. And if elected I’ll resign. 😛
@Paula Rose
That random lassie in front of the Wings embassy certainly seemed to think so. Stroked not only by your lovely self but also by the Glasgow general public!
Well I’m knackered. Off to bed. Might take a leaf out of David Cameron’s book and count pigs instead of sheep. 😉
Archie [not Erchie]
9 years ago
@ Quinie frae Angus – You wee sneek. You were looking at my kilt swing? I was lookin at your thigh [ok dreaming] length boots nah nah nah. Little did you know mah boxers were dropping rapidly. 🙂
Not easy to repair in public.
Never happier to get to Clutha and restore posterior posture before our reputations destroyed. 🙂
@ Brian Doonthetoon , thanks for the link to the forum. I’ll be reading that later, but tonight I’ve been busy reading Twitter about the exploits of David ‘Long Pig’ Cameron. Haven’t laughed this much in ages!
And on the plus side for Indy, the Daily Mail revelations about Cameron’s interspecies shenanigans must be worth another 2% onto the Yes side’s vote.
The craziest thing for me was how strangely forgiving of Cameron’s behavior the Mail commentators are! Eg:
“So what?! Good for him, enjoying his student years.”
“God it was the 80s and Cameron’s from an upper middle class background. Can’t stand all this holier than thou nonsense!”
“I actually think this article just makes Cameron look like a normal bloke with lots of money at Oxford”
Link to original article for those who don’t do Twitter:
Your post has appeared above. It, most likely, went into Rev Stu’s manual moderation queue, because of the change of username.
BTW: I’ve no idea where “Hector” came from!
8=)
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Hi Jock Scot (and others).
You can see (as long as you don’t blink) Ed Winchester, right at the start of this clip, twice, then just before the end. It’s Part 1 of the uploaded Series 1, Episode 1, of “The Fast Show.
If your appetite is whetted, he appears again in Part 2. If you do watch Part 2, doesn’t Professor Denzil Dexter look like a pi$$take of Neil Oliver? Watch the way he flicks his hair. Prescient stuff…
Hello, sorry to have missed you all on Saturday been busy serving the missus and debt collectors.
Got something different for you, a little known 10 minute video of a Scottish mountain climber on a trip abroad, though film starts in Scotland. It’s called “Project Fear” and is from September last year, wonder where Dave might have got the name from?
I’m so proud of the potential that Scotland has, we might be wee but we punch well above our weight :). I’ll leave this here but I do have another more exciting story that’s now a week old yet but have not seen it mentioned on Wings.
Which Scottish man has won an Olympic Gold medal, has been top of his profession for the last two years and recently achieved something never done before by any other?
He won a million euro last week by winning straight off the top 3 grand prix horse jumping races in the world. He’s from Fife and another world class Scot in my view.
Remember hearing all about his success last week on the telly? No neither did I. Here is a snippet of what it meant.
Funny that the Canadian crowd knew what it meant, we heard fuck all as usual.
@ BrianDTT 3.47 Ma wee Pal from Court of Sessions Greg Russell of the National.
Martin Wood
9 years ago
Just read the Constitutional Wrangle for dummies post from 2012
“….and lo it came to pass”
well done Stu
pete the camera
9 years ago
Hi all a wee update on the badge donation money it was £1000 and I have already dropped the cheque for £500 off at the Taught by Muhammad food bank in Dundee will arrange with Ronnie A to get the cheque to Maryhill this thursday
Thanks to all that donated hope you enjoy your badges
X_Sticks
9 years ago
@pete
Sterling effort Pete and a fantastic result. That was some stint you put in on the badge stall. I hope they bought you a pint when you eventually got to the Clutha. Beers on me next Saturday 😀
Thepnr
9 years ago
@pete the camera
Phenomenal! Well done Pete and BDTT very impressed, fills my wee Dundee heart with pride 🙂
TInto Chiel
9 years ago
@BrianDTT.
Thanks for all the stuff on Andy Pelc, Brian. Much appreciated. Comments below the line duly noted!
I don’t visit O/T very often. Usually tucked up with my Horlicks and Willie Pettigrew Special Edition Lounging Silks at this hour.
Met Paula Rose on Sats: those heels!
Wow!
Just, wow!
Paula Rose
9 years ago
Tartan Tory you have competition in the hunky leather stakes – Tinto Chiel swoon.
ronnie anderson
9 years ago
@ pete the camera Wow ah thought by weight & bucket nearly full but £1000 + the £165 for iScot , days & nights oot dont come any better.
Tinto Chiel
9 years ago
Paula Rose:
Aw, shucks!
Can’t speak…
Except: could you manage Motherwell FC? There’s fifteen men at least who need to be dominated…
Paula Rose
9 years ago
I went to a footie match once – a cup final Motherwell won 4-3.
Thepnr
9 years ago
@Paula Rose
Bastard, worse day of my life but great game.
Archie [not Erchie]
9 years ago
@ ronnie – Thats the first time I ever lifted [a wee bit] £1000 in a bucket. Great news and all credit to BDTT for his unflappable demeanour.
@ BDTT – Thanks for giving the wee boy in the wheelchair those extra badges. That made my day special. His Mum was over the moon.
Paula Rose
9 years ago
Rushing round country giving strokes – no idea why.
Conan the Librarian™
9 years ago
Hullo?
Conan the Librarian™
9 years ago
At last. What is it with this site lately?
Sorry to have missed you all at the Square, defo see you in Edinburgh.
Simone
9 years ago
Just thought I’d stick my head round the door and say hello.
Fantastic collection on Saturday, I love my new badges. The “special” one will be kept close to my heart.
Conan the Librarian™
9 years ago
Missed George Square, see you all in George Street.
Thepnr
9 years ago
@Conan the Librarian
Will see you there too mister.
Betty Boop
9 years ago
@ pete the camera
As you know, I tried lifting that bucket with my good arm on Saturday. It didn’t budge much and everybody knows I’ve got muscles.
Sterling effort from you and Brian. It was a bit like a scene from “Field of Dreams”; you know, build it and they will come. It was still early and there was only a small crowd, but, Pete arrived, had barely sat down and he was surrounded. Wings right enough, they were like moths to a candle.
Fantastic, the food banks will be pleased.
X_Sticks
9 years ago
@Conan
Look forward to seeing you in Edinburgh.
Your round I think 😀
Brian Doonthetoon
9 years ago
Repost from 10th September…
Hi peeps.
Re the Edinburgh get-together on 26th September.
If you’re intending going to the get-together and want a badge with your name on it, do a post in Quarantine (link at bottom left of this page), stating what name you want on the badge.
You have until 11.59pm on Wednesday, 23rd September, to order your badge. There is no charge; however I will point out that when in Wetherspoons, I tend to like a bottle of Tsing Tao or a pint of Orkney Dark Island, if they have it, and Pete the Camera is partial to Irn-Bru (full fat).
8=)
Paula Rose
9 years ago
Hi Simone honey – lovely to meet you in the Square.
Paula Rose
9 years ago
Oh btw if anyone’s come looking for quarantine it’s under me and to the left.
My latest blog isn’t directly related to Scottish politics, but the similarities between gamergaters/rabid puppies are striking, as evidenced by the comments:
Oh damn, sorry, I thought Quarantine and Off-Topic were the same! Yes, I hope to be wearing the same, more or less.
Bob Sinclair
9 years ago
Ok folks, who’s getting the train from Glasgow on Saturday?
Gillian_Ruglonian
9 years ago
Hi guys, great to see so many faces at George Sq and hope to meet more at George St!
I’m planning to get the train at around 3 or 4pm with Hevvabeccywoss and Cactus – details to be finalized, so it would be cool if we could arrange to travel east with a few more Wingers!
(coming back on the last train too)
I’ll check back in tomorrow to see if it’s doable 🙂
X_Sticks
9 years ago
@Tjenny
Are you coming along tomorrow? Didn’t see your name on the badge list.
Bob Sinclair
9 years ago
3 – 40m at that railway station opposite freedom Sq which needs a new name.
Ian Brotherhood
9 years ago
Fair warning – I’ve been swotting all week, am just about to get a kerry-oot, and will be going into full-on Disco/Funk mode from approx. 8.30 onwards.
If any of you have designs on the O/T 14k spot, you’d best be ready – we really wanna see those fingers!
Paula Rose
9 years ago
Do you really want to be removed from my Christmas card list Ian honey?
There was an obscene version of this, sung entirely in Glaswegian (by a tribute ‘band’ called ‘Thearrawan’) all about the attributes of the singer’s girlfriend. Thankfully, no copies of it exist.
Kishorn Commando
9 years ago
SWMBO says I got it wrong. Serves me right for lurking over her shooder for 2 years.
Anyway take a look at link to youtube.com
This is for Nana Smith and her man. What a pleasure it was meeting you both last week.
No particular reason for picking this track, other than it makes me smile, as youse did. (Nana – if you see this, please ask yer man why that Alsatian was barking…)
Very similar opening in the video to IB’s Ottawan video.
Ian Brotherhood
9 years ago
And this one’s for the bold Finlay.
Finlay, brother, ye come across as a mild-mannered sort, but, as discussed last week (when you were telling me about some of the folk you have to work with) there’s sometimes no option but to tell them to just ‘gettaefuck!’.
Hiya folks, tomorrow afternoon Cactus, Heather and I will be meeting in the wetherspoons under queen street station (I think it’s called camperdown?) at 4pm with a view to getting a train to Edinburgh at 5pm.
If anyone cares to join us for a bite to eat or a pre-train drink you’d be most welcome.
@Ian, loving the Friday night tunes man, you have excellent taste 🙂
Ian Brotherhood
9 years ago
This is for all the Wingers who didn’t have the pleasure of meeting me last week. 🙁
Thanks so much for the song and the compliment! As you can imagine, I am indeed a Blondie fan and love that tune.
And we will have our day to catch up and chin-wag.
But alas, I am afraid I will NOT now be able to make it to the do tomorrow night, much as I had hoped to do so.
It turns out my pals have arranged tickets and accommodation for the Inverurie Beer Festival which I had clean forgotten all about. Friends from Canada I haven’t seen for ages will be there as well so I need to make the effort and go. Plus I need to give someone back a tent I borrowed as they need it for the night’s kip.
I am so torn. Love ma Wingers!!! Will miss you and hope I can come to the next thing.
Thepnr
9 years ago
Turning into a bit of a party night. Enjoying the fun. One of my favorite songs though from the Indy campaign was this.
Your man and I were watching the proceedings onstage, and a large dog started going off on one, just to the right of us, really letting-rip, and a lot of folk turned to watch, concerned, but there was no other dog around, and no small weans.
It was yer man who worked out what the dog was barking at – a kilted guy’s sporran! Seriously. That’s what we were laughing about, if you didn’t notice.
He doesn’t remember?! I’m sure the dog’s owner and kilt-wearer will, although the sporran probably won’t.
Great tunes Nana, will have to wait for the next time before we can meet. Meantime thanks for the music and the posts 🙂
This is a video that I first saw posted by Ian B, playing it again because many will have missed it first time on Off Topic and it still brings a lump to my throat.
Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes, ‘Don’t Leave Me This Way’
As y’all know, the vocalist on this was Terry Pendergrass, who died too young, just 59.
Please also note that this is the ’12-incher’ (approx. 12 mins) which means you have time to start the song, finish that drink, and the slice of pizza, and STILL have loads of dancing time…
Sorry to hear you won’t make it. Will see you next time in Wings over Ullapool, we will reach there eventually 🙂
Ian Brotherhood
9 years ago
I pray we all live long enough to get the chance to dance like this, with all our neighbours, and daddy/grandma dancing will also be allowed, nae borra in the new Scotland.
Dance like you believe it’s gonna happen, right?
James Brown, Get Up Offa That Thing (Soul Train) –
Here’s a rock song from the 80’s, which is how I continue to feel about Scotland regaining her rightful independence. My first ever post on da Wings featured the two words, “contained euphoria”… that remains the same:
Also, has anyone passed by the Gallery of Modern Art (GoMA) in Glasgow at night time recently?
There are now a selection of red neon lights on the front of the listed building, of which some appear to be beaming out curious/strange wording.. make up your own mind, but the three that jumped out at me say:
We love alcohol
We love failure
We love the highland clearances
WTF??? No likey 🙁
Anyways, see yee’s all at the Camperdown bar later on this afternoon Glasgow, cheers for the now 🙂
Jim Thomson
9 years ago
That’s Betty and me in Embra. We’re having a wee coffee at the gallery end of Princes Street
Jim Thomson
9 years ago
Now down at Holyrood – disappointing turn out.
Hevvabeccywoss
9 years ago
Hi everyone, that’s me, Cactus and Gillian Rugloanian arrived in Edinburgh. Nipped into to Black Bull but should arrive at our venue soon. Who’s about? See you soon xxx
Jim Thomson
9 years ago
Assembling at rear of establishment. Gradually taking possession of tables.
Archie [not Erchie]
9 years ago
Missing but loving you all – esp that Gillian R. Have a nice night.
Ian Brotherhood
9 years ago
Hoots tae y’all in Edinburgh.
Sink one for me, eh?
Hoots and slainte! 🙂
cearc
9 years ago
Mine’s a wee malt.
slainte.
Ian Brotherhood
9 years ago
Last night was just a warm-up…
This is for the bold Lanarkist, a man on a mission. Great seeing ye last week mister. Hope it’s not so long before we get a chance for a jar or twa, or perhaps some strawberry whisky? Hope the heid was alright Sunday. 😉
This one’s for Gillian R and the Rutherglen ‘Aye’ buddies. Suppose I should really be digging out some Simple Minds, eh? but here’s another Soo-side outfit:
@ Ian Brotherhood 10.27pm Cmon noo Ian huv you ever been in ah Witherspoons oan a Saterday Night lol, the only Slosh thats done is Sloshin it doon the neck .
Jim Thomson
9 years ago
@Ian B
I did try a few times to post stuff but the WiFi and 4G networks were significantly absent. Bloody awful in-house coverage.
Quite a few new faces for me to annoy and I even won a raffle prize! It will take pride of place alongside my portrait of a partially clothed Tory PM.
Did you remember to pass on to Ronnie the package I left in your care during the rally. If you recall it was to be given last night at the wingers night out.
dramfineday
9 years ago
Great night last night at Wetherspoon’s and a pleasure to meet old and new friends. And like Jim, I too won a raffle prize. Mrs Dram throughly enjoyed the evening as did my old yes pentlands chum
Lindsay.
Best regards
Dram
Betty Boop
9 years ago
@ Nana Smith
Hi Nana, Jim did indeed pass on your gift to Ronnie. I am sure he will be in touch.
It was much admired for the beautiful object it is. Well done – everyone loved it.
Sorry you couldn’t be there. It was a very good night.
Good to know. Did not get a chance to say cheerio to you at the rally, got caught up elsewhere. It was just great meeting you and Jim and hope to catch up another time.
Ian Brotherhood
9 years ago
Phillip Glass, ‘Invitation’, score to The Fog of War –
Don’t know exactly when, but isn’t the next one in Brechin?
Brian Doonthetoon
9 years ago
Hi Quinie.
You have pre-empted me. The next Wings get-together is Invergowrie on 24th October – and I was gonna do a post, collating all the questions for info from last night, and all the travel opportunities to Invergowrie, and so on.
Looks like if you are coming, the best thing is to book accommodation, because the last trains to Edinburgh and Glasgow leave Dundee around 10.30. The buses aren’t much better.
More info will follow tomorrow…
However, the next public Wings presence will be at the Dundee City Square rally next Sunday, 4th October. The Bikers For Yes are putting together a convoy from Strathclyde Park, to Queensferry, then up to Dundee.
Here’s the graphic that tells you what’s organised, so far…
Crazycat, thank you for recognising us straight away! Really enjoyed talking to you and hope you got home safely =)
Ronnie, thank you for introducing us to all these famous Wingers! And for making us so welcome =) Thank you Pete the Camera(did I get that right?)for the lovely badges!
A ‘stroke’ form Paula Rose…heaven =) And a badge to keep for my grandchildren!
AND ‘strawed’ by Jock Scot! (it’s his new craze!)
Great chats and good times! Hey there X Sicks,Catus, Heather,Thepnr,Briandoonthetoon and son,Lyn,Tam Jardine,Maggie and Bettyboop and the lovely folk who’s names I didn’t catch!
Can we do this again soon please!? =)
Thepnr
9 years ago
Ian Brotherhood says:
@Quinie frae Angus –
Don’t know exactly when, but isn’t the next one in Brechin?
Funny you should say that, stranger things have happened and coincidentally I was talking to a well known winger today….
Great to meet fellow wingers in Edinburgh last night. Hope you all got home safely!
Ian Brotherhood
9 years ago
@Thepnr –
I was only joshing, but hey, curiouser and curiouser, who knows indeed?
One of these days I may announce a getthegither in The Three Towns – if I build it they will come…or they may choose not to. 🙂
Brian Doonthetoon
9 years ago
Hi John King & Capella.
“Four Yorkshiremen”
It was actually a pre Monty Python sketch, from the TV show “At Last The 1948 Show”, starring Tim Brooke-Taylor, John Cleese, Graham Chapman and Marty Feldman, from 1967. Aimi MacDonald provided the tottie interest.
Cheers for having us Edinburgh, great to be with you all again, braw times 🙂
Congrats aussi to Monsieur Doonthetoon on winning top spot.
(see above)
Jim Thomson
9 years ago
@Lanarkist
what night is the regular meeting in the Bellrock?
Betty and I will be there over the next couple of days (not in the pub ALL the time though 😉 )
Lanarkist
9 years ago
Hi Jim, thanks for the heads up on the main thread.
Yes Social is on this Wed. Starting at 8pm.
Nice timing, be great to see you and welcome you in!
Jim Thomson
9 years ago
Thanks for the reminder Lanarkist. I couldn’t recall if it was Tues, Wed or Thurs.
I blame old age, and too many Wings nights out …
Rigmac7
9 years ago
Random question about power generation – been out the loop a wee bit.
What does the demolishing and decommissioning of Longannet mean in real terms for Scotland’s ability to power itself? Do we currently provide a surplus to UK (for which we were paying a surcharge) or are we in a position that means we need to “buy” power from Ruk?
If we are in position of needing to “buy” power, how long will it be before we are able to be self sufficient? (on current plans, developments etc).
Looking at figures online, from 2008 to 2011, Scotland generated between 49,992 and 51,223 Gwh P.A. but used between 40,973 and 42,466 Gwh P.A. This made it a net exporter to England of between 7,998 and 11,597 Gwh P.A. (Gov.uk figures). Since Longannet produced approximately 9,525 Gwh P.A. (wikipedia), does that put us in the position of having to rely on power imports from Ruk or have we established enough green energy etc since 2011 to maintain a healthy surplus?
Is Longannets closure as simple as being an attempt to make us beholden to Ruk?
Jim Thomson
9 years ago
@Rigmac 7
Not sure if it helps but here’s the Scottish Govmnt pages on the topic
In terms of your final sentence, That seems to be the plan. All the crap about high carbon generation could have been mitigated if the UK gvmnt hadn’t pulled the plug on the Carbon Capture & Storage development plant that was going to be installed at Longannet.
Instead of the extra £500M that was needed to develop the technology, they decided to allocate that money elsewhere (can’t recall details atm, but I’m sure it was just another pre-planned nail in Longannet’s coffin.
Rigmac7
9 years ago
@Jim Thomson
Thanks Jim, looks like we are pretty much self sufficient then on recent figures.
I’m guessing that the cuts in green energy subsidies by Ruk is simply another attack on a country which produced 16,974 Gwh in green energy in 2012.
I think the £500M was probably used for Anglo/Chino relations purposes in the funding of their shiny new nuclear power plant 🙂
I recently posted an article that isn’t really to do with Scottish independence, but linked to my past life as a Robert E. Howard scholar. Basically, the editor of a site I used to work for has come out as a supporter of a controversial author who, among other things, denounces women’s suffrage, women in the workplace, equal opportunities, gay rights, and other things. If you’ve ever encountered Gamergate or Rabid Puppies, you’ll know who they are.
A fairly large number of commenters came by. I hadn’t encountered most of them before. Most of them didn’t even go to the effort of reading the blog in favour of flinging non-sequiturs and accusations eerily similar to the lying, projecting and doubling-down they accuse their enemies of. I closed the comments, and they still come, because apparently refusing to give them a platform makes me a “coward” and not granting them their “right” to rant on my blog means I’m censoring them, and thus making me a “hypocrite.” I also notice that a lot of hits come from the author’s personal blog. They clearly have a greater interest in me than I do them.
The funny thing is, I’m sure a lot of people can see the similarities all trolls seem to exhibit: ad hominems galore, appeals to emotion, and all sorts of logical fallacies. It’s been a most educating experience.
But as I say on the blog, I’m used to much sterner stuff.
X_Sticks
9 years ago
@Taranaich
Good for you Al. Stick to your guns. You have right on your side on that one.
Just out of interest is the sterner stuff a consequence of the referendum?
Brian Doonthetoon
9 years ago
Can one be ‘O/T’ on ‘off-topic’?
I’ve just found out, via FB email notification, that ‘Hope Over Fear’ are increasing their free buses from George Square to Dundee on Sunday, to three 50-seaters.
Looks like it’d gonna be a busy day – and there WILL be a speaker from the SNP on stage.
Here’s the update – note the change of departure location…
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Change of plan for Sunday, HOPE OVER FEAR will now run three 50 seat coaches to Dundee Yes city, all departing Buchannan bus station 09.15am – Only 15 spaces left!!! Holytown will car share into Glasgow ><
Ghillie
9 years ago
Taranaigh @4.43pm
Oh gee whiz! Those trolls were an especialy dim bunch.
Even I got that it was about the blog owner speaking for all the members.
Vox Day’s thoughts sound vile. That Leo supported him speaks volumes.
They do not share your values.
Well done for standing your ground. (what X sticks said, wise man) That takes an emmense amount of courage, especialy when up until now you thought you were amongst like-minded folk and friends and colleagues. That hurts. But many came away with you, Again speaks volumes.
I always tell my sons to trust their instincts. You did. Well done pet.
Jim Thomson
9 years ago
@Taranaich
You know that you can selectively block trolls on WordPress?
@X_Sticks: Just out of interest is the sterner stuff a consequence of the referendum?
It is indeed. Time was this sort of thing would upset me: I took everything deeply personally, and I always had that seed of doubt, wondering if they were right and I was wrong. The referendum experience makes such things look almost child’s play in comparison.
@Ghillie: Well done for standing your ground. (what X sticks said, wise man) That takes an emmense amount of courage, especialy when up until now you thought you were amongst like-minded folk and friends and colleagues. That hurts. But many came away with you, Again speaks volumes.
I always tell my sons to trust their instincts. You did. Well done pet.
Thanks Ghillie. Truth be told it was four of us who collectively decided to make the stand, so I was not alone through this, though I am glad more people left than stayed given Leo’s behaviour, and of those remaining, one has passed away.
@Jim Thomson: You know that you can selectively block trolls on WordPress?
Would that be a workable proposition?
I wrestled with this for a bit. I admire the Rev’s zero-tolerance approach to trolls, but I always shied away from it, figuring that readers could make their own judgements. But the way I see it, I’m not stopping them from expressing themselves: I’m just not giving them the platform to do it. They can start their own blogs, or comment on others, and people can come to them.
I’m leaving the comments that have already been published, but I’m looking at various guidelines for abuse, and have decided just not to publish ones that contain personal attacks. “Repugnant fascist” that I am, apparently.
@Thepnr –
Cheers for that.
Never heard of him either. Interesting indeed, and quite unusual to see an American espousing basic socialist ideas without people immediately bursting into tears.
Must try and find out about the dude – looks like he’s been around a while.
(How about Cameron B? You’re familiar with a lot of these obscure characters – you ever come across Bernie Sanders before?)
What is it with you boys – never heard of Bernie? Its been the main story of the American campaign amongst progressive folk! Do you not have contacts on social media with like-minded folk across the globe!
(new comment re Saturday coming soon)
Hi Wingers,
I was hoping to catch up with you all again in George Square this weekend. Unfortunately family reasons are taking me inescapably away.
Hope you all have a grand day and with more hope for the future than seemed possible this time last year.
Ian Brotherhood
He’s been a thorn in the side of the Anglo /American Establishment for some time now. I don’t think the Koch side of Wall Street likes him either. The last time he was on my radar he was pretty isolated. I hadn’t been aware that he was news. Perhaps it’s a sign that change can’t be held back.
I think he’s an Independent of the small “c” conservative variety, which I suppose now counts for ‘socialist’ in the USA.
Bernie Sanders: No! to War with Iraq (10/9/2002)
link to youtube.com
From The Rollers’ documentary, I found it interesting that this
link to youtube.com
was inspired by this?
link to youtube.com
Who wooda thunkit?
Joy of joys – my latest winged Knight in shining armour – Archie [not Erchie] will be bringing me to Glasgow on Saturday. Driving from Aberdeen he will pick me up in Brechin.
There is space on the luggage rack for a couple of others so if you want to be able to say to your grandchildren in years to come –
“I had a ride with Paula Rose”
Make your case here.
Ha ha ha…
link to youtube.com
@ Paula Rose You better wear your Feather Boa or Archie ( not Erchie)might miss you at the pickup point.
Trying one more time.
Is anything organized for Friday?
Hi Conan the Librarian.
Re Friday. March in Edinburgh. Not sure of times – try a search on other Wings pages (Edinburgh might work).
57 (%) white roses being laid at the Mercat Cross in Dundee at 12.30. Yes Rutherglen party in the evening. YES flag flying from my window all day.
George Square on Saturday. (See ‘off-topic’).
Ach, why not? This one going out to Rupert Murdoch.
Tom Perkins – Black Sun Twist
link to youtube.com
@Conan
I hope you’ve got the 26th on your calendar.
As someone said on the main thread – where has Bugger (the panda) disappeared to. Does anyone know if he’s ok?
I thought I had his email address but can’t find it.
@ Conan Friday 18th: King’s Stables Rd – 10am. March to Holyrood.
@ Ronnie Anderson
@ Paula Rose
Jings, reading the comments above, Archie (not Erchie), a “winged Knight in shining armour”, and Paula’s arrival in Glasgow, feather boa flying in the breeze, might be like a scene from Priscilla Queen of the Desert!
Cannae wait 😉
@ Ronnie – Feather boa? And me in kilt? What a combo!
@ Betty Boop – You dinna know the half! Paula wants to be ‘onboard entertainment officer’ – Pray for me! 🙂
If there is a seat on the bus left then I would love to fill it!
This one going out to Fozzie Carbuncle, who is perhaps learning that you have to respect other, in order to gain their respect in return.
The Staple Singers – Respect Yourself
link to youtube.com
P.S. I’m not suggesting Fozzie is in the KKK but the rest just fitted too well. 🙂
@ X_sticks
Just emailed him.
@Ronnie, I’m working Friday might might turn up anyway…
Archie [Not Erchie] and I are driving down from Aberdeen to Glasgow on Saturday morning (via Brechin to pick up Paula Rose) and we have two seats spare for anyone who fancies them.
Post here or email me if you could use a free lift. 🙂
finlaymair [at] gmail [dot] com
Gosh TWO handsome beaus escorting me to Glasgow!
@ X_sticks
innerbearsden at gmail dot com
Paula
I’ll be your taxi driver for life if you can spot a UKOK sticker on the trip down! 😀
My majestic steed has a solitary heated seat for you and Archie to debate over, there is also an audio input for the radio so feel free to bring some tunes.
I won’t be at the rally at Glasgow because I am going to the Alliance for Scotland event in Dundee:
link to eventbrite.co.uk
This was postponed from earlier this year. Some good speakers there.
So anyone from the Dundee area who can’t make it to Glasgoe might want to go along to this.
Sorry I’ll miss many Wingers at Glasgow, but I hope to see you all at the Edinburgh get together on the 26th. (lookin at you Bdtt 😀 )
Oh goodie a taxi driver for life! Knew it was sensible of me not to have scraped it off the lamp-post! ( I presume Finlay honey, you mean any bt/no sticker )
Hmm. Ok, If we see a single car with a Better Together, No Thanks, UKOK, Tory, Lib Dem or Labour sticker then my soul is forfeit! 😛
However if we don’t… you can pay for lunch! 😛
Placing my bets on the silent majority being extra silent this weekend, not sure why though.
Silly boy changes rules and expects free lunch – we may be an hour late fellow wingers.
@ Paula Rose – Late? Well that buggers up the hired gold confetti cannons and prancing pink unicorns on your arrival. Sheesh!
Then have a word with Finlay about upsetting schedules.
(Based on “Urban Guerrilla” by Hawkwind. A top 40 tune in 1973, back when Labour were a little less right-wing.)
“Corbyn Guerrilla”
I’m a Corbyn guerrilla
I write for Morning Star in my cellar
I’m a Westminster dweller
I’m an Independence killer.
I’m a Tory-fighting dancer
I’m a revolutionary chancer
In the body politic I’m the cancer
I’m a Tooting Popular front ‘Panther’.
So let’s not talk of union powers
Before Kezia’s head explodes
We’ve kicked out all that Blairite shower
Triangulating us down the wrong road.
I’m a hard-left political bandit
And the Beeb don’t understand it
Blairites took my party and damned it
Just the way Thatcher planned it.
Fabian Society’s disruptor
I’m a Trident bomb destructor
Son of Islington bus conductor
I’m the people’s debt collector.
So watch out Mister Cameron
Your empire’s about to blow
I think you’d better listen, man
In case you did not know.
I’m a Corbyn guerrilla
I’m friends with Denis Skinner
I never sing the anthem
I get my suits from Oxfam.
I’m a Corbyn guerrilla
I support Alex Tsipras
I’m a Corbyn guerrilla
Last year I got my bus pass
I’m a Corbyn guerrilla
I love the guys in Hamas.
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The original:
link to youtube.com
If he survives, Corbyn could be good for Labour in England, but he is going to be subjected to super-strength monstering from the MSM.
Scottish Labour is a corpse, he may try to reanimate it, but at best it would only be a zombie party, run from London.
Hi X_Sticks.
Re Alliance Convention.
This is a post I’ve just done on the “YES Dundee and Surrounding Areas Events & Information” Facebook page.
“Has anyone heard anything about the Yes Alliance Conference, organised by Dom Anderson, that was supposed to take place in January but was postponed until Saturday, 19th September?
I know a guy who is coming down from Aberdeen for this event – but I have seen nothing about it on pro-indy events pages, like this one.
I contacted Dom in January on how to get a refund on tickets I had bought through yesconnect.scot and got no reply. I’ve emailed him again tonight, because the tickets are of no use to me, as I’ll be in George Square on Saturday.
When I log into yesconnect.scot, it says I have no events.”
http://yesconnect.scot
Update: I’ve just received this email:-
“A message that you sent to the following recipient could not be delivered due to a permanent error. ** The remote server 212.227.15.41 responded with: ** dom@allianceforscotland.org.uk 550:Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable This message was created automatically by mail delivery software on the server avasout02.”
Methinks, perchance, this event is not happening…
I’ve found out, via Facebook, from Dom Anderson himself, that the Alliance event in Dundee has been cancelled.
@BrianDtt
Thanks Brian. Yup – event cancelled – no notification apart from post on facebook.
Still not sure if I can do Glasgow, got a wedding reception in Banchory in the evening.
I’ll need to revise plans to see what I can do. Will be at Glasgow if I can.
Ronnie Anderson, Brian and Co,
I have been up to no good as usual and still fighting for Independence.
I haven’t talked to you Ronnie since you came back from holiday. I met Brian with his son and his partner in crime at Pacific Quay in August.
I will be there on Saturday with Martyn.
Really up for this one.
I hope you are all well. I also got presented with a Ronnie Anderson special edition badge in the Clutha pub after the BBC protest. (Anderson Tartan). Will have it with me on Saturday.
See you all tomorrow.
Hello there Stoker, hope to see you tomorrow, enjoyed my wee day out in August and the chat we had in the Clutha.
Giddy with excitement darlings – not only Archie [not Erchie] and Finlay but also hunky X_Sticks escorting me to Glasgow! Swoon xx
Livestreaming Hope Over Fear tomorrow. If anybody about give me a wee shout. Del should also be kicking around and a couple of others from IndyLive
@Thistle
I’ll be taking pics tomorrow then heading to Yes bar for a half lager with a marachino cherry and an umbrella – possibly in a durty glass, I haven’t decided.
So, we start another ‘year’ tomorrow, in Freedom Square.
🙂
Kool & The Gang, ‘Fresh’ –
link to youtube.com
Wee shout xx
Hey Paula Rose et al
What are the social plans for ra morra? I will come and find you at George Square but am working for most of the day….what time are you planning to be there from and till?
If all else fails I take it we will all find each other at the Yes Bar?
@ kendomacaroonbar take me with you xx
John Lennon, ‘Nobody Told Me’ –
link to youtube.com
@ Quinie honey! Will be there all afternoon xx
@paula
Had me at “X_Sticks escorting me”
I won’t have to drive either 😉
Back seat babe?
Ok great, I can keep in touch via X-Sticks as I have his number in my phone.
Hope to see you all at some point…x
Quinie frae Angus almost but not quite as gorgeous as me!
Simple Minds, ‘Up On The Catwalk’ –
link to youtube.com
Hi folks
am hoping to be in the square tomorrow along with the Bold Joff, and one or two perhaps of the Miss Effies.
Is there a particular bit/banner you gather at…?
Have been defrosting my freezer today. A total arseache of a job. Long overdue.
Still much nicer than results night…
Natasha, if you are lurking about, good luck. Missing seeing your posts, but, understand.
@ Quinie
I would check all the bars working your way out from the square! 😉
@Quinie
I’ll only be there until about 2:30. Need to get back to Aberdeen for a wedding reception in the evening.
I hope I manage to see you there.
@ X_Sticks
Re Alliance Convention. I am sure I got refund when they first postponed the event. I didn’t want to take the chance it would get off the ground later, rightly, as it seems, and preferred to cancel.
I also had second thoughts regarding whether it was really about supporting indy.
Have fun tomorrow and pat the horse’s arse from me.
Sorry I can’t get down to join you.
George Benson, ‘Never Give Up’ (live) –
link to youtube.com
caz-m wrote:
“Hello there Stoker, hope to see you tomorrow, enjoyed my wee day out in August and the chat we had in the Clutha.”
Ditto!
Sorry, mate, no can do, family problems.
Thanks for the ‘Yes2’ badge btw, stuck it straight onto my Saltire patch on my hat as soon as i got back home and there it’ll stay. Hope you all have a great day tomorrow, the fight rumbles on!
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Just received one of those new Facebook alerts in my junk box:
“Pamela Anderson and Super-Gonorrhoea are Trending on Facebook”
Mmmmm, charming, made me laugh though.
Stay safe troops!
Here’s one for the Haters and Hothersalls, Fearties and Fannies (not that they’ll ever see this, or ‘get’ it anyroad…)
Massive Attack, ‘Unfinished Sympathy’ –
link to youtube.com
Another one for those who see us as typical bleedin’-heart lefty usual suspects. It’s a song all about not wanting to know about ‘evil’, only wanting to know about ‘love’.
Does that make us ‘hippies’?
Does this sound like the work of ‘hippies’?
Listen (and watch) carefully, haters…
John Martyn, ‘Don’t Want To Know’ –
link to youtube.com
Anyone needing transport between fife and glasgow tomorrow leave me word here. room for 2 maybe 3.
I’m so sorry I missed most of HOF but a little traffic tailback wasn’t going to stop me being there I made it with just enough time.
To all the Wingers who once again worked their collective asses off to raise funds that will feed people, thanks, you are true heroes and it was great to see you again. Same time nxt week in Edinburgh, looking fwd to it.
When does the AGB do kick off? Thanks.
What a buzz, seeing all the ‘old’ faces and meeting some new ones.
Won’t even attempt a name-check as I’ll just make an arse of it, but what a showing that was by the Wingers today – in time we’ll arrive at a definite number, but by my reckoning there must have been at least 20 of us there, and not far off that number present between, say, 1.30 – 2.30. A lot of us meeting for the first time.
(I heard tell the bold Kininvie was there, but didn’t clap eyes on him!)
Ye’s are pure braw by the way, so ye’s are…
🙂
Imagine how galling it must’ve been for the BBC to allow these people in as ‘performers’… and then tote-up what they’d necked in the Green Room.
The Pogues and Dubliners, on Top of The Pops, in 1987 –
link to youtube.com
Glad you all had fun today.
I watched it on livestream, thanks,
Kev.
@cearc –
Bummer you weren’t there, you’d’ve loved it, especially seeing all the ‘new’ faces.
Hope all’s well with you and the wee birdies.
Hoots, cheers, and love
XXX
Back from a sooopah day at Freedom Square with wonderful Wingers popping out of the leaden skies like clouds of midgies.
No hairy string on show – Lots of silver duck tape and tie wraps to secure flagpoles and passing dusky maidens. [Oooh Paula!]
Thanks to all and esp. Finlay for driving us to/from Glasgow.
I have loads of photos but will post them somewhere accessible in the morning. Ronnie kept me in order with his beady eye while the other eye was checking out ne’er do wells.
Thanks guy and gals.
Made it!
Braw day, slightly the worse for wear.
So glad I made and such a good day meeting so many Wingers I hadn’t met before that I had long wished to meet. Especially Nana, Al and the Macintoshes.
Big thanks to Finley for the list down. Wouldn’t have made it otherwise.
See you all soon
Loce you all.
ok a bunch of photos to upload to a suitable website. Any recommendations?
@ Archie [not Erchie] The Glesga sunshine must hiv byled your heid. You & Findlay were Be-Knighted by the fair hand of Paula Rose who was appointed the Custodian of the Curly Hairy String.
Hiv you caught any Black Widows lately ( an thats another story for the annuals of the Wingers get togthers)lol.
@ Ronnie – Aye the Black Widow who didnt deny assisting her husband’s demise. 🙂
Paula kept us entertained with SKA/Punk music on the way up North. Whit a groover mover she is!
Heres the link for my photos from yesterday. No names
link to flic.kr
@ Cearc 11.02 Be Alert there that wummin.
The Erse we were under wiz sir Walter Scotts ,we hiv enough tae cairy tae these events, an a Fortyfit ladders ah no go, an he,s no oan ah horse oonyhow.LOL XXX.
@ Archie [not erchie] Nice photo,s ,name that manny giving hugs 16th photo lol,ah got caught out in Indroducing Wingers ah forgot his name.
@ Ronnie – 16th photo is JLT greetin on Nana’s shoulder.
Hello Archie [not Erchie], is it OK if I put a link to your photos on my Twitter page?
I’d be good if more people get the chance to see them, especially since the Scottish media (yeah, I’m looking at YOU, Auntie Beeb!) are doing their best to ignore the rally.
You can see why the MSM really dislike these events, because they show ordinary people having fun, no hate-filled ‘Cybernats’ in view. Nothing for the MSM to show as .vile separatists’. Just ordinary people who want to live in an ordinary country, their own country.
The second photo is a great pic of the whole crowd filling the square. I also like the pic of the monument that has been stickered, I just hope Ian Murray MP doesn’t have nightmares if he sees it!
Ronnie,
Yep, me being dopey. It must have been the delirium of sucessfully getting my last incubator hatchlings fobbed off on a hen with a week old brood. She seemed delighted that her four chicks had turned into 8 and a duckling overnight.
PS. I wouldn’t expect you to kiss Scott’s arse even if it were on the ground!
Well, here’s what we can remember from the HOF rally.
Wingers who made themselves known:
Ronnie Anderson
Briandoonthetoon
Pete the camera
Caz-M
Kininvie
Ian Brotherhood
JLT
Paula Rose
Finlay
Archie (not Erchie)
X_Sticks
Wee Ginger Dug
Kendomacaroonbar
Taranaich
Geraldine
Moidart
Quinie fae Angus
Cactus
Gillian
Nana Smith
Hevvabeccywoss
Indigo
Effie
Bob Sinclair
Jim Thomson
Betty Boop
Sand
Lanarkist
Irene King
John King
Tinto Chjel
Dorothy
Castlemilk Chavy
Effigy
Del (IndLive)
Thistle
Sonia (Dundee) plus sister and husband
So, at least 39 Wingers. If I have left anyone off the list (worse than being on the list!!!)’ apologies and please feel free to add names.
Ain’t we smashin’. Thanks all for a great and successful day. Loved it.
It was good to meet up at the Wings Embassy yesterday and my apologies that I wasnt able to stick around longer.
My Father, Ronnie, gave me a vigoursly quick rub down with a broken Newkie Broon screwtop this afternoon for neglecting my duties, and stipulated that I wear the That’sMeTelt badge of shame for 24 hours 🙂
Nana Smith, can you send me your e mail address please to kenmcdonald1(at)btopenworld(dot)com
Sorry, forgot:
Jock Scot
Ninja Penguin
Norman Smith (Nana’s husband)
So, 42 is the latest tally.
Martyn in da’s hoose
Yer oan the list too!
Up to 43 fabulous Wingers
@ David – Please feel free to link to the photos. The more folk see that we are just normal people [apart from Ronnie] the better 😉
Hi Betty Boop.
Add Croompenstein to your list – and Hoss Macintosh and Alan Macintosh.
BTW: “Castlemilk Chavy” is actually Castlehills Chavie.
Darlings – fabulous meeting so many of you yesterday and grateful thanks to Archie [not Erchie] and Finlay for getting me there and safely home.
For those of you who missed it the first time (Ian Brotherhood) here is the proof that John McTernan is worth every penny. A certain Ukist blog was unavailable from twitter a while back…
link to twitter.com
@ Bdtt
Thanks Brian.
That makes 46!
Apologies Chavie. I did know it was Castlehills, but, it’s the day after the night before and I accidentally miscalled your name.
We’re still fabulous 🙂
BTW: what happened AFTER you lot left for The Clutha…
link to wingsoverscotland.com
Hi All
I reckon there were at least 49 Wingers as there are at least three missing from ‘the List’ ( proud to be on that one as well as the MFI one)
Below is a wee ‘after gig’ video from the Clutha with my apologies for the crap post-production which I couldn’t be ersed doing..lazy I know but lack of sleep and the wish to put this out a.s.a.p is my excuse. It’s on the YEW CHOOB supplemental channel but is unlisted as I thought we limit it to the ‘family’
link to youtube.com
With reference to having lost ‘Ronnie’s erse shot’ in the first video..I’ve just found it but will only ‘go public’ if Ronnie consents or there is so much of an outcry that the material is released under an FOI request.
Also..many thanks to the Yes Rutherglen Wingers who invited me to their Shindig the previous evening and for providing a bed for a travelling CHOOBER.X
From Jock’s video, for the list, I offer ‘Triangular Ears’.
@ Archie [not Erchie], thanks!
For me, social media is excellent, because I am outside the UK and yet I can keep connected to what is really happening in Scotland through articles, pics, etc. put online by Wingers.
I keep in touch with what is being spun as the news in Scotland by reading the MSM. 🙂
Hi Crazycat.
You got definite names for your +2 for name badges for next Saturday’s Embra get-together?
Anyone else going next week: if you want a name badge, do a post with the name you want on the badge in Quarantine (link at bottom left of this page), if you haven’t done so already.
All badge requests have to be in by 11.59pm on Wednesday, 23rd September.
Hi David.
You could find this link of interest:-
link to dundee3js.freeforums.org
Once the thread gets going, most of the input is from me (specially since September 2013); most of the comments are from ex-pats.
Brian,
Can you add me to your badge list. Thanks.
Well that’s us back home after a hectic weekend. Wonderful meeting all the beautiful wingers. Paula Rose, how you manage to walk on those heels, well I’m soooo jealous!
And Finlay you stood me up, but I will forgive as you were in good company. Ronnie and everyone I missed saying cheerio to you as we got waylaid by friends and ended up going for a meal.
For Paula link to youtube.com
and for everyone else with much love
link to youtube.com
Nana Smith Thank you honey, I’m sure I speak for many when I say that meeting you was a highlight of the day.
Hi Bob Sinclair.
Yirran affie man, iye?
Yi turn up at Geordie’s Square as the curtains are being drawn (not painted), then you do a post here that should have been in Quarantine.
What are you like? Your badge name noted onnyhoo…
8=)
Hi Tinto Cheil.
RE: our short blether about St Andrew, yesterday in George Square.
You will probably find this link of interest:-
link to retrodundee.blogspot.co.uk
Click on each of the graphics to get the larger, readable version. You may also find the BTL comments educational and amusing.
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For those of you who enjoyed Dundee’s ‘Twa Tenors’ yesterday – they’ll be on stage at the rally in Dundee on 4th October.
This is for Jim T and Betty Boop…
link to youtube.com
@ cearc talking aboot erses, the Clutha vidio by Yew Choob Jock Scott,you,ll need tae watch the directors cut & Happy Birthday tae the wee chookie hens N duck xx.
@ Archie [no erchie] thats the fulla JTL lol ,hi JTL.An whit dey U mean normal people except Ronnie,is it the wie ah walk,explain yerself Mr ,an nae refferences tae Cearc wee Duck lol. An U better watch oot ah could be in a place near U soon lol.
@ Betty Boop You missed oot NinjaP,s Husband & Son.
@ Nana Kevin/Delboy (livestream) got the plaque & said thanks muchly,ah never even got ah keek at them, Hi Norman.
Hi peeps.
I took a wee tickie snaps yesterday. You can see them here:-
link to sites.google.com
I saw Paula Rose attempting to conceal the hairy string in her cleavage, but she surreptitiously removed it shortly thereafter as it was too itchy.
Great to see the list above – more than 40 Wingers? 🙂
JLT – how did I miss you? 🙁
Best Dressed Winger of the Day (Male) – Taranaich
(No other awards are being made as no-one else has been nominated in any other categories.)
An another name missed from the Sat list Graeme Doig.
@Nana Smith
I’m so sorry! I got myself into an interesting discussion with Ian Brotherhood and Taranaich and it’s a crime to prematurely leave a stimulating conversation!
I thought I’d be getting a free lunch from Paula this weekend but I think it is I who owes you a free lunch now. Damn. Oh well! There aren’t many people who I’d rather spend lunch with than yourself. Maybe the gorgeous Paula Rose. 😉
Lovely meeting you and Norman and I hope we can all make the event on October 24th so I may repent!
@Ian Brotherhood and Taranaich
Pleasure to meet you two, there are not many people who can produce a powerful enough chat to make a man miss lunch with Nana Smith!
@Ed Winchester Doonthetoon
A one off change of pseudonym – especially for you. 😛
@Archie[Not Erchie], X-Sticks and Paula Rose
Pleasure driving down with you guys, thanks for the tunes Paula and thanks for keeping me awake on the road back Archie!
Pity you had to leave so soon X-Sticks however the quality of your company more than exceeded the quantity.
A momentous honour to have been stroked by the stunning Paula Rose (and to have my beard fondled by a random passer-by; a Paula Rose wannabe?).
@Jock Scot
I don’t know why I was so sleepy driving home… perhaps one or two of the anecdotes were a tad too much for me… A bridge too far! 😉 Hope you found a suitable Ronnie approved receptacle for your snotty Jura!
@Ronnie
What a cheeky fellow! Great craic. Especially loved the story of your silver-tongued flag flipping. I hope everyone is o’er the moon today. Perhaps Pete can make you a flashy new badge! 😉
@All the Wingers I met yesterday
What a day! My absolute pleasure meeting the Wings Family and experiencing yesterdays event. Some memories to last a lifetime!
Shame I couldn’t get enough time with some of you, will need to meet up again soon.
If a cause can be measured by the quality of its participants then I think you guys and girls raise the bar higher than Jim Murphy in a glue factory!
All of my love.
Finlay
@Ian Brotherhood
I have a nomination for Best Undressed Winger of the Day (Male).
Oh slap ma face wie ah wet haddie, how could I miss Jan / Patrician & Gerry Parker,sos gerry ah never got over tae speak tae U.
53 Wingers !!! with all those recently added, ie
Triangular Ears,
Ninja P’s husband and son,
Graeme Doig
Gerry Parker
Jan
Patrician
I know we had some lurkers too, but, no idea how many 🙂
Any more bids?
Apologies to anybody missed and Gerry, didn’t see you there – I must have been waving the iScots about and shouting about the new Scottish media.
Incredible – Even more fabulous.
I made a big post earlier which hasn’t appeared and I didn’t save it. If it doesn’t appear by tomorrow I’ll rewrite. 🙁
Loved meeting Wingers auld and new.
X-Sticks, sorry I missed you, though. Next time, maybe.
Finlay, you have a nomination for the most Selfless Winger of the day.
And also Quinie most definitely Finlay is the handsomist young man ever to sport a beard – swoon!
Oh definitely, Paula – he is indeed. I could tell you were sweet on him! You’re one very lucky lady, getting a ride from him all the way up the Angus glens.
I look forward to hearing all the juicy details.
@ Finlay You were welcomed by all the Wingers yesterday, now welcome to the bain of Wings, GCHQ interception your lost post goes via Cheltenham lol.
Quinie honey – you know that old joke about “what’s worn under the kilt? Nothing – it’s all in perfect working order”? In Archie [not Erchie]‘s case – that is soooo true!
Gordon Bennett!
Paula Rose does Spike Milligan!
And as for Quinie frae Angus at 10.32?!
Carry On Wings!
O) 😉 🙂
@yesindyref2
Can you dm me at ken@iscot.scot please ? cheers
Well Paula, I am not surprised. Archie kindly walked me down the road from the Square to the Clutha and I was most impressed at the way his kilt was swinging, this way and that.
I am now most intrigued and look forward to hearing more.
@Ronnie
Is it ever coming back? Best post I’ve ever written! Maybe it is sitting in a box next to Lanarkist’s massive Mi5 file.
I’m not long back from work. I don’t have the mental capacity left to rewrite it again tonight and I have to get up for work again in about 5 hours. 🙁
@Quinie frae Angus
If nominated I’ll decline. If drafted I’ll defer. And if elected I’ll resign. 😛
@Paula Rose
That random lassie in front of the Wings embassy certainly seemed to think so. Stroked not only by your lovely self but also by the Glasgow general public!
@Finlay (10.00) –
‘I made a big post earlier..’
Awww man, please don’t encourage them, eh? 🙁
@Ian Brotherhood
You know what they say about lads with big posts…
Sore fingers…
link to bbc.co.uk
Lib Dems invite Labour to play Tory with them?
So many big posts here tonight!
Well I’m knackered. Off to bed. Might take a leaf out of David Cameron’s book and count pigs instead of sheep. 😉
@ Quinie frae Angus – You wee sneek. You were looking at my kilt swing? I was lookin at your thigh [ok dreaming] length boots nah nah nah. Little did you know mah boxers were dropping rapidly. 🙂
Not easy to repair in public.
Never happier to get to Clutha and restore posterior posture before our reputations destroyed. 🙂
Here’s a double-header, for Paula and Quinie –
Suzi Quatro & Bonnie Tyler –
link to youtube.com
When I think of any of you…
link to youtube.com
@ Brian Doonthetoon , thanks for the link to the forum. I’ll be reading that later, but tonight I’ve been busy reading Twitter about the exploits of David ‘Long Pig’ Cameron. Haven’t laughed this much in ages!
And on the plus side for Indy, the Daily Mail revelations about Cameron’s interspecies shenanigans must be worth another 2% onto the Yes side’s vote.
The craziest thing for me was how strangely forgiving of Cameron’s behavior the Mail commentators are! Eg:
“So what?! Good for him, enjoying his student years.”
“God it was the 80s and Cameron’s from an upper middle class background. Can’t stand all this holier than thou nonsense!”
“I actually think this article just makes Cameron look like a normal bloke with lots of money at Oxford”
Link to original article for those who don’t do Twitter:
link to dailymail.co.uk
Here is the archive version of the same article:
link to archive.is
That may explain Miliband’s reluctance to eat a bacon piece…
Thanks for all the photos and video from Saturday.
Glad I made the effort.
Sorry I missed you Quinie, as you say, next time x
*note to self “don’t post when pissed” 😀
Wings gets a mention in The National today.
link to archive.is
Hi Finlay.
Your post has appeared above. It, most likely, went into Rev Stu’s manual moderation queue, because of the change of username.
BTW: I’ve no idea where “Hector” came from!
8=)
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Hi Jock Scot (and others).
You can see (as long as you don’t blink) Ed Winchester, right at the start of this clip, twice, then just before the end. It’s Part 1 of the uploaded Series 1, Episode 1, of “The Fast Show.
link to youtube.com
If your appetite is whetted, he appears again in Part 2. If you do watch Part 2, doesn’t Professor Denzil Dexter look like a pi$$take of Neil Oliver? Watch the way he flicks his hair. Prescient stuff…
link to youtube.com
Hello, sorry to have missed you all on Saturday been busy serving the missus and debt collectors.
Got something different for you, a little known 10 minute video of a Scottish mountain climber on a trip abroad, though film starts in Scotland. It’s called “Project Fear” and is from September last year, wonder where Dave might have got the name from?
I’m so proud of the potential that Scotland has, we might be wee but we punch well above our weight :). I’ll leave this here but I do have another more exciting story that’s now a week old yet but have not seen it mentioned on Wings.
link to youtube.com
Be right back 🙂
Which Scottish man has won an Olympic Gold medal, has been top of his profession for the last two years and recently achieved something never done before by any other?
He won a million euro last week by winning straight off the top 3 grand prix horse jumping races in the world. He’s from Fife and another world class Scot in my view.
Remember hearing all about his success last week on the telly? No neither did I. Here is a snippet of what it meant.
Funny that the Canadian crowd knew what it meant, we heard fuck all as usual.
link to youtube.com
@ BrianDTT 3.47 Ma wee Pal from Court of Sessions Greg Russell of the National.
Just read the Constitutional Wrangle for dummies post from 2012
“….and lo it came to pass”
well done Stu
Hi all a wee update on the badge donation money it was £1000 and I have already dropped the cheque for £500 off at the Taught by Muhammad food bank in Dundee will arrange with Ronnie A to get the cheque to Maryhill this thursday
Thanks to all that donated hope you enjoy your badges
@pete
Sterling effort Pete and a fantastic result. That was some stint you put in on the badge stall. I hope they bought you a pint when you eventually got to the Clutha. Beers on me next Saturday 😀
@pete the camera
Phenomenal! Well done Pete and BDTT very impressed, fills my wee Dundee heart with pride 🙂
@BrianDTT.
Thanks for all the stuff on Andy Pelc, Brian. Much appreciated. Comments below the line duly noted!
I don’t visit O/T very often. Usually tucked up with my Horlicks and Willie Pettigrew Special Edition Lounging Silks at this hour.
Met Paula Rose on Sats: those heels!
Wow!
Just, wow!
Tartan Tory you have competition in the hunky leather stakes – Tinto Chiel swoon.
@ pete the camera Wow ah thought by weight & bucket nearly full but £1000 + the £165 for iScot , days & nights oot dont come any better.
Paula Rose:
Aw, shucks!
Can’t speak…
Except: could you manage Motherwell FC? There’s fifteen men at least who need to be dominated…
I went to a footie match once – a cup final Motherwell won 4-3.
@Paula Rose
Bastard, worse day of my life but great game.
@ ronnie – Thats the first time I ever lifted [a wee bit] £1000 in a bucket. Great news and all credit to BDTT for his unflappable demeanour.
@ BDTT – Thanks for giving the wee boy in the wheelchair those extra badges. That made my day special. His Mum was over the moon.
Rushing round country giving strokes – no idea why.
Hullo?
At last. What is it with this site lately?
Sorry to have missed you all at the Square, defo see you in Edinburgh.
Just thought I’d stick my head round the door and say hello.
Fantastic collection on Saturday, I love my new badges. The “special” one will be kept close to my heart.
Missed George Square, see you all in George Street.
@Conan the Librarian
Will see you there too mister.
@ pete the camera
As you know, I tried lifting that bucket with my good arm on Saturday. It didn’t budge much and everybody knows I’ve got muscles.
Sterling effort from you and Brian. It was a bit like a scene from “Field of Dreams”; you know, build it and they will come. It was still early and there was only a small crowd, but, Pete arrived, had barely sat down and he was surrounded. Wings right enough, they were like moths to a candle.
Fantastic, the food banks will be pleased.
@Conan
Look forward to seeing you in Edinburgh.
Your round I think 😀
Repost from 10th September…
Hi peeps.
Re the Edinburgh get-together on 26th September.
If you’re intending going to the get-together and want a badge with your name on it, do a post in Quarantine (link at bottom left of this page), stating what name you want on the badge.
You have until 11.59pm on Wednesday, 23rd September, to order your badge. There is no charge; however I will point out that when in Wetherspoons, I tend to like a bottle of Tsing Tao or a pint of Orkney Dark Island, if they have it, and Pete the Camera is partial to Irn-Bru (full fat).
8=)
Hi Simone honey – lovely to meet you in the Square.
Oh btw if anyone’s come looking for quarantine it’s under me and to the left.
I’ll take a badge, Brian!
My latest blog isn’t directly related to Scottish politics, but the similarities between gamergaters/rabid puppies are striking, as evidenced by the comments:
link to wildernessofpeace.wordpress.com
Figures this’d be ridiculously popular (500 hits in the past hour, more than half from one blog)
Och Taranaich.
See you peeps who don’t follow instructions?
I’ve just posted this in Quarantine…
.
Right, that’s the line drawn.
If you haven’t already requested a badge, you’ll have to write your name on a blank on Saturday.
That’s all folks!
Because I checked Quarantine first, you’ve just sneaked in, Taranaich. Will you be wearing your George Square jeans and t-shirt again on Saturday?
8=)
Oh damn, sorry, I thought Quarantine and Off-Topic were the same! Yes, I hope to be wearing the same, more or less.
Ok folks, who’s getting the train from Glasgow on Saturday?
Hi guys, great to see so many faces at George Sq and hope to meet more at George St!
I’m planning to get the train at around 3 or 4pm with Hevvabeccywoss and Cactus – details to be finalized, so it would be cool if we could arrange to travel east with a few more Wingers!
(coming back on the last train too)
I’ll check back in tomorrow to see if it’s doable 🙂
@Tjenny
Are you coming along tomorrow? Didn’t see your name on the badge list.
3 – 40m at that railway station opposite freedom Sq which needs a new name.
Fair warning – I’ve been swotting all week, am just about to get a kerry-oot, and will be going into full-on Disco/Funk mode from approx. 8.30 onwards.
If any of you have designs on the O/T 14k spot, you’d best be ready – we really wanna see those fingers!
Do you really want to be removed from my Christmas card list Ian honey?
Fracking demos? That’s a bit extreme.
@Ian Brotherhood
Thought I’d jump in and beat you to the kick off.
Born To Be Alive – Patrick Hernandez
link to youtube.com
@Thepnr –
Hmm. Yeah. Nice opener brother.
Before we go any further, I think many of us would both benefit from studying this short instructional video:
link to youtube.com
haha That gut learnt everyone of his great moves from me 🙂
Gut?
IB try this
link to youtube.com
mine’s a double
Oh wasn’t a German video then 🙂 guy I meant guy.
Here’s a guy. Van McCoy – The Hustle
link to youtube.com
Here’s Ottawan, with D.I.S.C.O. –
link to youtube.com
There was an obscene version of this, sung entirely in Glaswegian (by a tribute ‘band’ called ‘Thearrawan’) all about the attributes of the singer’s girlfriend. Thankfully, no copies of it exist.
SWMBO says I got it wrong. Serves me right for lurking over her shooder for 2 years.
Anyway take a look at
link to youtube.com
I am going to Stomp right in here with a bit of Bliss. link to youtube.com
This is for Nana Smith and her man. What a pleasure it was meeting you both last week.
No particular reason for picking this track, other than it makes me smile, as youse did. (Nana – if you see this, please ask yer man why that Alsatian was barking…)
Eruption, ‘One Way Ticket’ –
link to youtube.com
@Ian Brotherhood
Pleasure was all ours Ian and here’s me on the way to the rally last Saturday…well a girl can dream!
link to youtube.com
Hubby says he can’t remember a particular Alsatian , mind you he did disappear for refreshments a couple of times.
Here’s the song he’s singing at the moment and he says cheers!
link to youtube.com
This is for Quinie Frae Angus, who I never ever EVER get a proper chance to talk to because there are always too many ‘babe-magnets’ around. 🙁
Blondie, ‘Heart of Glass’ –
link to youtube.com
@Michael McCabe
Hope you can make it to George St tomorrow. This one is a killer Disco tune. Amii Stewart – Knock On Wood
link to youtube.com
Very similar opening in the video to IB’s Ottawan video.
And this one’s for the bold Finlay.
Finlay, brother, ye come across as a mild-mannered sort, but, as discussed last week (when you were telling me about some of the folk you have to work with) there’s sometimes no option but to tell them to just ‘gettaefuck!’.
Great meeting you mister. Here’s to next time.
Slainte!
The Pretenders, ‘Chain Gang’ (live) –
link to youtube.com
@ Thepnr Will definitely be at George St. Tomorrow. Really looking forward to it. Ain’t Nobody Chaka Khan link to youtube.com
Two bands for the price of one. Ya Dancer. link to youtube.com
Hiya folks, tomorrow afternoon Cactus, Heather and I will be meeting in the wetherspoons under queen street station (I think it’s called camperdown?) at 4pm with a view to getting a train to Edinburgh at 5pm.
If anyone cares to join us for a bite to eat or a pre-train drink you’d be most welcome.
@Ian, loving the Friday night tunes man, you have excellent taste 🙂
This is for all the Wingers who didn’t have the pleasure of meeting me last week. 🙁
Edwin Starr, ‘Contact’ (Soul Train Line, 1979) –
link to youtube.com
This is for…who else could it be?…sartorial superlatives embodied, a la Monsieur Taranaich:
Chic, ‘Le Freak’ (Soul Train)-
link to youtube.com
To Ian Brotherhood
Thanks so much for the song and the compliment! As you can imagine, I am indeed a Blondie fan and love that tune.
And we will have our day to catch up and chin-wag.
But alas, I am afraid I will NOT now be able to make it to the do tomorrow night, much as I had hoped to do so.
It turns out my pals have arranged tickets and accommodation for the Inverurie Beer Festival which I had clean forgotten all about. Friends from Canada I haven’t seen for ages will be there as well so I need to make the effort and go. Plus I need to give someone back a tent I borrowed as they need it for the night’s kip.
I am so torn. Love ma Wingers!!! Will miss you and hope I can come to the next thing.
Turning into a bit of a party night. Enjoying the fun. One of my favorite songs though from the Indy campaign was this.
O’Jays – Back Stabbers
link to youtube.com
@Nana –
Your man and I were watching the proceedings onstage, and a large dog started going off on one, just to the right of us, really letting-rip, and a lot of folk turned to watch, concerned, but there was no other dog around, and no small weans.
It was yer man who worked out what the dog was barking at – a kilted guy’s sporran! Seriously. That’s what we were laughing about, if you didn’t notice.
He doesn’t remember?! I’m sure the dog’s owner and kilt-wearer will, although the sporran probably won’t.
🙂
@Ian Brotherhood
Yes he remembered after I posted. I must have been blethering with someone during that commotion.
The poor man I hope he and his sporran have recovered, geez he must have been embarrassed.
This one for all wingers and yes voters.
link to youtube.com
And this is for whoever feels like proposing to someone, but is maybe stuck for a cool tune…
Al Green, ‘Let’s Get Married’ –
link to youtube.com
@Nana Smith
Great tunes Nana, will have to wait for the next time before we can meet. Meantime thanks for the music and the posts 🙂
This is a video that I first saw posted by Ian B, playing it again because many will have missed it first time on Off Topic and it still brings a lump to my throat.
link to youtube.com
@Thepnr
Bound to meet up sometime Alex. Love that video, sent it to friends in Mississippi when I first saw it here and my pals loved it also.
link to youtube.com
Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes, ‘Don’t Leave Me This Way’
As y’all know, the vocalist on this was Terry Pendergrass, who died too young, just 59.
Please also note that this is the ’12-incher’ (approx. 12 mins) which means you have time to start the song, finish that drink, and the slice of pizza, and STILL have loads of dancing time…
link to youtube.com
Have fun the morrow.
Shame I couldn’t make it.
@Nana Smith
Sharper than a pointy stick. Love it 🙂
@cearc
Sorry to hear you won’t make it. Will see you next time in Wings over Ullapool, we will reach there eventually 🙂
I pray we all live long enough to get the chance to dance like this, with all our neighbours, and daddy/grandma dancing will also be allowed, nae borra in the new Scotland.
Dance like you believe it’s gonna happen, right?
James Brown, Get Up Offa That Thing (Soul Train) –
link to youtube.com
Here’s a rock song from the 80’s, which is how I continue to feel about Scotland regaining her rightful independence. My first ever post on da Wings featured the two words, “contained euphoria”… that remains the same:
Def Leppard – Excitable
link to youtube.com
Enjoy the video!
Also, has anyone passed by the Gallery of Modern Art (GoMA) in Glasgow at night time recently?
There are now a selection of red neon lights on the front of the listed building, of which some appear to be beaming out curious/strange wording.. make up your own mind, but the three that jumped out at me say:
We love alcohol
We love failure
We love the highland clearances
WTF??? No likey 🙁
Anyways, see yee’s all at the Camperdown bar later on this afternoon Glasgow, cheers for the now 🙂
That’s Betty and me in Embra. We’re having a wee coffee at the gallery end of Princes Street
Now down at Holyrood – disappointing turn out.
Hi everyone, that’s me, Cactus and Gillian Rugloanian arrived in Edinburgh. Nipped into to Black Bull but should arrive at our venue soon. Who’s about? See you soon xxx
Assembling at rear of establishment. Gradually taking possession of tables.
Missing but loving you all – esp that Gillian R. Have a nice night.
Hoots tae y’all in Edinburgh.
Sink one for me, eh?
Hoots and slainte! 🙂
Mine’s a wee malt.
slainte.
Last night was just a warm-up…
This is for the bold Lanarkist, a man on a mission. Great seeing ye last week mister. Hope it’s not so long before we get a chance for a jar or twa, or perhaps some strawberry whisky? Hope the heid was alright Sunday. 😉
Big Country, ‘Field Of Fire’ (live) –
link to youtube.com
This one’s for Gillian R and the Rutherglen ‘Aye’ buddies. Suppose I should really be digging out some Simple Minds, eh? but here’s another Soo-side outfit:
Altered Images, ‘Jeepster’ –
link to youtube.com
Scott Wood Band, ‘Sheep Running About’ –
link to youtube.com
Whatever youse are doing in Edinburgh, make sure youse make time to do a bit of this…
Still Game, ‘The Slosh’ –
link to youtube.com
Aw, FFS, were is a’body? 🙁
It’s feeling like this:
Leo Sayer, ‘One Man Band’ –
link to youtube.com
No naked lights please…too many combustible mullets present.
Elton John, ‘I’m Still Standing’ (live, 1984-ish)
link to youtube.com
Ach, right then, get it right up ye’s all…
Team America, ‘I’m So Ronery’ –
link to youtube.com
I’m here (on and off).
Keep up the good work.
Radiohead, ‘Bodysnatchers’ (Jools Holland) –
link to youtube.com
@cearc –
🙂
I picture you in some Highland idyll, watching over yer fledgelings, and it reminds me of this:
Van Morrison, ‘I’m Tired Joey Boy’ –
link to youtube.com
Norah Jones ft Wyclef Jean – Any other day
link to youtube.com
@ Ian Brotherhood 10.27pm Cmon noo Ian huv you ever been in ah Witherspoons oan a Saterday Night lol, the only Slosh thats done is Sloshin it doon the neck .
@Ian B
I did try a few times to post stuff but the WiFi and 4G networks were significantly absent. Bloody awful in-house coverage.
Quite a few new faces for me to annoy and I even won a raffle prize! It will take pride of place alongside my portrait of a partially clothed Tory PM.
@Jim Thomson
Did you remember to pass on to Ronnie the package I left in your care during the rally. If you recall it was to be given last night at the wingers night out.
Great night last night at Wetherspoon’s and a pleasure to meet old and new friends. And like Jim, I too won a raffle prize. Mrs Dram throughly enjoyed the evening as did my old yes pentlands chum
Lindsay.
Best regards
Dram
@ Nana Smith
Hi Nana, Jim did indeed pass on your gift to Ronnie. I am sure he will be in touch.
It was much admired for the beautiful object it is. Well done – everyone loved it.
Sorry you couldn’t be there. It was a very good night.
@Betty Boop
Good to know. Did not get a chance to say cheerio to you at the rally, got caught up elsewhere. It was just great meeting you and Jim and hope to catch up another time.
Phillip Glass, ‘Invitation’, score to The Fog of War –
link to youtube.com
@ Thepnr Great meeting up with you again last night. Already looking forward to the next time. link to youtube.com
I met Someone last night who asked me to put this song on here. So Maggie Campbell this one is for You. link to youtube.com
The Pogues, ‘Battle March Medley’
link to youtube.com
From some sporting fixture last night, featuring a funny-shaped ball and loads of deranged Welsh people:
link to youtube.com
@Michael McCabe
That was magnificent, can’t possibly compete with that so I won’t even try. Give my regards to Lynn.
Looking like the 14kth comment here may also be the 465kth comment overall…
Is that a pair of high heels clacking nearer?
Shang-a-lang, ya bass!
Right, fess-up – who’s got a ticket?
link to youtube.com
Hey all you lovely Wingers
Very sorry I missed last night’s do.
When’s the next one???
Liquid Gold – Dance Yourself Dizzy
link to youtube.com
🙂
@Quinie frae Angus –
Don’t know exactly when, but isn’t the next one in Brechin?
Hi Quinie.
You have pre-empted me. The next Wings get-together is Invergowrie on 24th October – and I was gonna do a post, collating all the questions for info from last night, and all the travel opportunities to Invergowrie, and so on.
Looks like if you are coming, the best thing is to book accommodation, because the last trains to Edinburgh and Glasgow leave Dundee around 10.30. The buses aren’t much better.
More info will follow tomorrow…
However, the next public Wings presence will be at the Dundee City Square rally next Sunday, 4th October. The Bikers For Yes are putting together a convoy from Strathclyde Park, to Queensferry, then up to Dundee.
Here’s the graphic that tells you what’s organised, so far…
link to sites.google.com
Also, ‘Hope Over Fear’ are putting on two 50-seater buses from George Square Glasgow to Dundee (and return) free of charge for the 4th October rally.
See this Facebook page for further info. Seats have to be booked by FB PM. Gail Morrow is taking the bookings.
link to facebook.com
See you there?
Here’s a wee historical oddity to kick-off a new page:
Jim Garrison (the dude played by Kevin Costner) on NBC re the JFK assassination.
Curious to know – anyone seen this before?
link to youtube.com
Thank you all for a great night!!
Crazycat, thank you for recognising us straight away! Really enjoyed talking to you and hope you got home safely =)
Ronnie, thank you for introducing us to all these famous Wingers! And for making us so welcome =) Thank you Pete the Camera(did I get that right?)for the lovely badges!
A ‘stroke’ form Paula Rose…heaven =) And a badge to keep for my grandchildren!
AND ‘strawed’ by Jock Scot! (it’s his new craze!)
Great chats and good times! Hey there X Sicks,Catus, Heather,Thepnr,Briandoonthetoon and son,Lyn,Tam Jardine,Maggie and Bettyboop and the lovely folk who’s names I didn’t catch!
Can we do this again soon please!? =)
Ian Brotherhood says:
@Quinie frae Angus –
Don’t know exactly when, but isn’t the next one in Brechin?
Funny you should say that, stranger things have happened and coincidentally I was talking to a well known winger today….
Great to meet fellow wingers in Edinburgh last night. Hope you all got home safely!
@Thepnr –
I was only joshing, but hey, curiouser and curiouser, who knows indeed?
One of these days I may announce a getthegither in The Three Towns – if I build it they will come…or they may choose not to. 🙂
Hi John King & Capella.
“Four Yorkshiremen”
It was actually a pre Monty Python sketch, from the TV show “At Last The 1948 Show”, starring Tim Brooke-Taylor, John Cleese, Graham Chapman and Marty Feldman, from 1967. Aimi MacDonald provided the tottie interest.
Here’s the original.
link to youtube.com
link to en.wikipedia.org
Cheers for having us Edinburgh, great to be with you all again, braw times 🙂
Congrats aussi to Monsieur Doonthetoon on winning top spot.
(see above)
@Lanarkist
what night is the regular meeting in the Bellrock?
Betty and I will be there over the next couple of days (not in the pub ALL the time though 😉 )
Hi Jim, thanks for the heads up on the main thread.
Yes Social is on this Wed. Starting at 8pm.
Nice timing, be great to see you and welcome you in!
Thanks for the reminder Lanarkist. I couldn’t recall if it was Tues, Wed or Thurs.
I blame old age, and too many Wings nights out …
Random question about power generation – been out the loop a wee bit.
What does the demolishing and decommissioning of Longannet mean in real terms for Scotland’s ability to power itself? Do we currently provide a surplus to UK (for which we were paying a surcharge) or are we in a position that means we need to “buy” power from Ruk?
If we are in position of needing to “buy” power, how long will it be before we are able to be self sufficient? (on current plans, developments etc).
Looking at figures online, from 2008 to 2011, Scotland generated between 49,992 and 51,223 Gwh P.A. but used between 40,973 and 42,466 Gwh P.A. This made it a net exporter to England of between 7,998 and 11,597 Gwh P.A. (Gov.uk figures). Since Longannet produced approximately 9,525 Gwh P.A. (wikipedia), does that put us in the position of having to rely on power imports from Ruk or have we established enough green energy etc since 2011 to maintain a healthy surplus?
Is Longannets closure as simple as being an attempt to make us beholden to Ruk?
@Rigmac 7
Not sure if it helps but here’s the Scottish Govmnt pages on the topic
link to gov.scot
In terms of your final sentence, That seems to be the plan. All the crap about high carbon generation could have been mitigated if the UK gvmnt hadn’t pulled the plug on the Carbon Capture & Storage development plant that was going to be installed at Longannet.
Instead of the extra £500M that was needed to develop the technology, they decided to allocate that money elsewhere (can’t recall details atm, but I’m sure it was just another pre-planned nail in Longannet’s coffin.
@Jim Thomson
Thanks Jim, looks like we are pretty much self sufficient then on recent figures.
I’m guessing that the cuts in green energy subsidies by Ruk is simply another attack on a country which produced 16,974 Gwh in green energy in 2012.
I think the £500M was probably used for Anglo/Chino relations purposes in the funding of their shiny new nuclear power plant 🙂
Hello all,
I recently posted an article that isn’t really to do with Scottish independence, but linked to my past life as a Robert E. Howard scholar. Basically, the editor of a site I used to work for has come out as a supporter of a controversial author who, among other things, denounces women’s suffrage, women in the workplace, equal opportunities, gay rights, and other things. If you’ve ever encountered Gamergate or Rabid Puppies, you’ll know who they are.
link to wildernessofpeace.wordpress.com
A fairly large number of commenters came by. I hadn’t encountered most of them before. Most of them didn’t even go to the effort of reading the blog in favour of flinging non-sequiturs and accusations eerily similar to the lying, projecting and doubling-down they accuse their enemies of. I closed the comments, and they still come, because apparently refusing to give them a platform makes me a “coward” and not granting them their “right” to rant on my blog means I’m censoring them, and thus making me a “hypocrite.” I also notice that a lot of hits come from the author’s personal blog. They clearly have a greater interest in me than I do them.
The funny thing is, I’m sure a lot of people can see the similarities all trolls seem to exhibit: ad hominems galore, appeals to emotion, and all sorts of logical fallacies. It’s been a most educating experience.
But as I say on the blog, I’m used to much sterner stuff.
@Taranaich
Good for you Al. Stick to your guns. You have right on your side on that one.
Just out of interest is the sterner stuff a consequence of the referendum?
Can one be ‘O/T’ on ‘off-topic’?
I’ve just found out, via FB email notification, that ‘Hope Over Fear’ are increasing their free buses from George Square to Dundee on Sunday, to three 50-seaters.
Looks like it’d gonna be a busy day – and there WILL be a speaker from the SNP on stage.
See my earlier post:-
link to wingsoverscotland.com
Here’s the update – note the change of departure location…
———————————————-
Change of plan for Sunday, HOPE OVER FEAR will now run three 50 seat coaches to Dundee Yes city, all departing Buchannan bus station 09.15am – Only 15 spaces left!!! Holytown will car share into Glasgow ><
Taranaigh @4.43pm
Oh gee whiz! Those trolls were an especialy dim bunch.
Even I got that it was about the blog owner speaking for all the members.
Vox Day’s thoughts sound vile. That Leo supported him speaks volumes.
They do not share your values.
Well done for standing your ground. (what X sticks said, wise man) That takes an emmense amount of courage, especialy when up until now you thought you were amongst like-minded folk and friends and colleagues. That hurts. But many came away with you, Again speaks volumes.
I always tell my sons to trust their instincts. You did. Well done pet.
@Taranaich
You know that you can selectively block trolls on WordPress?
Would that be a workable proposition?
It is indeed. Time was this sort of thing would upset me: I took everything deeply personally, and I always had that seed of doubt, wondering if they were right and I was wrong. The referendum experience makes such things look almost child’s play in comparison.
Thanks Ghillie. Truth be told it was four of us who collectively decided to make the stand, so I was not alone through this, though I am glad more people left than stayed given Leo’s behaviour, and of those remaining, one has passed away.
I wrestled with this for a bit. I admire the Rev’s zero-tolerance approach to trolls, but I always shied away from it, figuring that readers could make their own judgements. But the way I see it, I’m not stopping them from expressing themselves: I’m just not giving them the platform to do it. They can start their own blogs, or comment on others, and people can come to them.
I’m leaving the comments that have already been published, but I’m looking at various guidelines for abuse, and have decided just not to publish ones that contain personal attacks. “Repugnant fascist” that I am, apparently.