The world's most-read Scottish politics website

Wings Over Scotland


Mixed messaging

Posted on June 17, 2023 by
Subscribe
Notify of
guest

34 Comments
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
I. Despair

Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
Your career is dead,
Wish you were too.

Dramfineday

Delicious…..

AnneDon

My brother just had a leaflet through the door from his SNP MSP, detailing all the wonderful things he’s done for the area.

Not one mention of the political party he represents. Nor, as my brother pointed out, any mention of the Europe’s Most Impressive Politician
#RuthDavidsonStrategy.

Beauvais

A knock at the door.

Is it Interflora or Interpol?

Stephen O'Brien

Do we need permission for Self-Pollination?

Den

Brilliant 🙂 best one yet imo

Fearghas MacFhionnlaigh

Time perhaps again for that poignant little poem by Hugh MacDiarmid —

“THE LITTLE WHITE ROSE

The rose of all the world is not for me.
I want for my part
Only the little white rose of Scotland
That smells sharp and sweet—and breaks the heart.”

And as regards justice and injustice in high places, it might not be entirely amiss to take out of context the following first verse of MacDiarmid’s ‘First Hymn to Lenin’, and address it (of course without undue adulation) to Alex Salmond —

“Few even o’ the criminals, cravens, and fools
Wha’s voices vilify a man they ken
They’ve cause to fear and are unfit to judge
As they’re to stem his influence again
But in the hollows where their herts should be
Foresee your victory.”

chic.mcgregor

Just a wee hint of Howson.

Daisy Walker

Where have all the flowers gone
Gone to Nikla
every one
when will we ever learn
when will we ever learn

Where have all the mandates gone
Long time passing
where have all the mandates gone
far far away

Where have all the mandates gone
Under a gravy bus
every one
When will we ever learn
when will we ever learn

Ian Brotherhood

Turns out that yesterday was the climax of WGD’s annual fundraiser.

He was asking for, among other things, £2,500 to get his car fixed.

I’m not joking:

‘I was especially nervous about launching the crowdfunder this year as my health issues mean that I can no longer update the blog daily, and of course because of the recent issues with the SNP. I thought that the crowdfunder would struggle badly. I had set a target of £5000 which together with what I earn from writing for The National would give me an annual income more or less equivalent to a full time job paying the minimum wage. It’s not much but it’s enough to live on.

I launched the crowdfunder on 5 June and am delighted to report that it has now exceeded its target. Between the GoFundMe page, and direct donations via Paypal or by other means, the total is now a tad over £5900. This is particularly reassuring given that our car has just failed its MOT quite badly and it will cost £2500 to get it roadworthy. This is a bill I had not budgeted for. I am totally dependent on being driven about by my partner as I can no longer drive myself and cannot use buses due to my poor mobility.’

Twittery reaction suggests he’s not Pet of the Month.

Anyone fancy a bet that he won’t show in Dundee next week?

stuart mctavish

Cheers, nice one !

If only they’d thought of it earlier Margaret Ferrier could have gotten some – particularly given the extent to which colleagues were allegedly convinced not only about the danger that she was in personally, but her risk to others in consequence.

That said, initially triggered by the spirit of the jest, the following might be of interest to anyone able, or keen, to get legalgpt onside and proceed with due caution:

Section 2(14) of Criminal Justice Act 1987 (*1) being, in context, an abomination (presumption of innocence renders entrapment fraudulent and a specific offence of telling lies to a policeman would be arbitrary) the strict inference from the oddly worded police caution (*2)

“You do not have to say anything. But it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court. Anything you do say may be given in evidence.”

when taken in context of Section 2 (3)(a)(ii) and (b)

“..
(3)
The Director may by notice in writing require the person under investigation or any other person to produce at [F6such place as may be specified in the notice and either forthwith or at such time as may be so specified,] any specified documents which appear to the Director to relate to any matter relevant to the investigation or any documents of a specified [F6description] which appear to him so to relate; and—

(a)if any such documents are produced, the Director may—
(i)take copies or extracts from them;
(ii)require the person producing them to provide an explanation of any of them;

(b)if any such documents are not produced, the Director may require the person who was required to produce them to state, to the best of his knowledge and belief, where they are.
..”

is that anyone who is questioned for serious fraud prior to being charged MUST become immune to prosecution (and presumably also able to invoke Scottish precedent to benefit from judicial review and reasonable compensation in advance of any such prosecution being attempted.. 🙂 )

(*1) link to legislation.gov.uk
(*2) link to hnksolicitors.com

Dan

@ Ian Brotherhood

Crikey! With WGD paying 2500 quid to get his car through the MOT he might want to consider giving up the blogging and instead learn vehicle maintenance and repair. Or alternatively spend his time learning which few models of car on the planet that aren’t just shitey money pits.
It’s a worthwhile endeavor as bought my car for a hundred quid 10 years ago and it’s still going strong with over 300k on the clock.
I got it cheap coz it needed… a radiator! Bonus was I managed to source a used one off ebay for 10 quid delivered! 🙂
It did require 20 quid of antifreeze to fill cooling system though, because for some inexplicable reason Ford made the cooling system volume huge as if everyone was going to be towing a heavily loaded car and huge caravan across the Sahara.
NB. Antifreeze isn’t just for winter to stop frost damage to engine, it also contains corrosion inhibitors to protect components in contact with the cooling system from damage.

Top tips for MOT passing:
Putting a pack of chocolate Hobnobs or box of fudge donuts in the passenger seat prior to test has been proven to increase pass rates.
Probably going to be a straight fail if you put a YES badged car into a unionist run garage. And vice versa with a union jackery equipped vehicle into an Indy supporting garage.

Bob Mack

@Ian Brotherhood.

You mean Lord Hee Haw who indoctrinated the few to vote SNP?

There are great cartoonists and above them is Chris Cairns.
Brilliant depiction of where we are currently.

Bob Mack

@Ian Brotherhood.

You mean Lord Hee Haw who indoctrinates the few to vote SNP?

There are great cartoonists and above them is Chris Cairns.
Brilliant depiction of where we are currently.

ronald anderson

Ian Brotherhood 12.54 .

Paul Kavanagh has become a piece of work , he’ll be claiming disability benefits ( pip) at the higher rate because of his mobility & Carers allowance . I ditched him years ago BASTWARD .

ronald anderson

Ian Brotherhood 12.54 .

Paul Kavanagh has become a piece of work , he’ll be claiming disability benefits ( pip) at the higher rate because of his mobility & Carers allowance . I ditched him years ago .

.

Astonished

Brilliant cartoon, again.

And great poem from “I, despair” @10.27am. May I say I agree with its sentiment.

Dorothy Devine

Hey Ronnie Anderson, how are you?Good to see you here.

thothScot

You’d think after slavishly trotting out support in the face of every SNP financial disaster (legal or otherwise), WGD would have remembered not to be honest about where a large chunk of the money was going.

Also, with that kind of bill it may be time to look to start again with a replacement. It looks to be throwing good money after bad. You’d not take that sort of approach with other things, like ferries for exam…oh, never mind.

PacMan

£2.5k to get a car through it’s MOT?

What’s Kavanagh got, a BMW?

twathater

Are Durham lassies quick learners, Daisy Walker a cracker should be sung on the AUOB marches

chic.mcgregor

And in yet another co-running Universe, another song lyric rewrite applies.

She aint nothing like a Dame,
Nothing more absurd.
“Independence is to blame.”,
Is all you need to become a Dame.

Wullie B

@Ian Brotherhood
I am surprised Wee Grifter Dug doesn’t have a mobility car, for which he wouldn’t have to pay for any upkeep with his medical problems

David Lee

Not to be “that guy” but… that’s the English caution.

willie

And don’t forget Kavanagh put the wee Ginger Dug down.

No health reasons to do so. Just the inconvenience and impracticality after his stroke.

And I recall his begging bowl message after he had the stroke where he was pleading for donations to allow him to get ” a wee cottage ” more suited to his needs.

Sorry the guy is unwell but he’s a begging bowl lush looking for a freebie. He typifies the SNP grifters to a tee,

aLurker

David Lee says:
Not to be “that guy” but… that’s the English caution.

Well spotted David.

One might expect that that Female police officer would be saying it with her English accent. Being as she is English. From England.

link to en.wikipedia.org

A Scot Abroad

Don’t know about the police officer, but she seems to be engaged with a generic Indy idiot. Unfit, thick, unsure of what’s being said to him, and generally not fit for human purpose. Like your average Indy supporter.

Beauvais

ASA @11:46 pm

If sir, you cannot with logic and reason explain why independence is sensible and normal for around 200 countries but isn’t for Scotland, then you either have to abandon, or at least moderate, your vituperative disdain of Scottish nationalism or else have yourself considered the thicko you so hastily declare others to be.

Remember, any retort must contain logic and reason, not simply more of your customary cheap insults.

North chiel

Looks more like a Britnat lager lout to me

stuart mctavish

David Lee @6:30

This the one ?

link to en.wikipedia.org

Each crime its own merits but looks as though the Criminal Procedure (Scotland) act 1995 respected the Law in so far as refusing to give your name, address, place and date of birth, mothers maiden name, etc was a possible exception to being not obliged to answer any questions – and thus not a crime even AFTER you’d been charged as being suspected of involvement in an actual one.

By contrast, the Criminal justice (Scotland) Act 2016 appears to have used ambiguity in the earlier act to introduce the name rank serial number obligation. A nucrime which, by accident or design, is negated by principle of Self ID (FFS? 🙂 )

*not necessarily bad for business in the cops v robbers game since its been honed over centuries of war and is presumably intended as an aid to interrogation resistance rather than, say, as a means of grooming the public to make interrogations more challenging for those who enjoy that sort of thing.

Martin Conroy

Surely it should be the Scottish caution and not the English one?

“You are not obliged to say anything but anything you do say will be noted and may be used in evidence.”

Graham

Sorry but I don’t get the cartoon, can someone explain who it is and what it’s referencing?

Confused

it’s a stitchup of a fitup of a travesty of kangaroo court, but say it with flowers anyway

the thug reminds me of a howson character; if I had the money, I think 300K is the going rate, I would commission him to paint a gigantic state of scotland/state of indy/state of politics canvas, involving all the characters and events since 2014.

– a cheapo way of doing it would be to think of the elements, get the AI to draw the bits, then do a big collage, plus liberally ripping off known classics

the r4pe of the sabine women (metoo, salmondgate)
the raft of the medusa
the ship of fools
cronus devours his children
napoleon crossing the alps
mr and mrs andrews (murrell) gainsborough
Belshazzar’s Feast (Rembrandt) “you have been weighed and found wanting”

whatever does it for you, the pre-raphaelits, dada, vorticism.

Cactus

Cuffs not required.

It’s time to get the marching orders in place.


  • About

    Wings Over Scotland is a (mainly) Scottish political media digest and monitor, which also offers its own commentary. (More)

    Stats: 6,671 Posts, 1,202,948 Comments

  • Recent Posts

  • Archives

  • Categories

  • Tags

  • Recent Comments

    • Ruairidh on Telling the truth by mistake: “The utter lack of respect for ordinary Scots is clear from the way they continually lie to us with no…Nov 22, 22:16
    • Dumbarton Rock on Telling the truth by mistake: “…….. News of an Indy summit coming up! Look out for it…….Nov 22, 21:31
    • twathater on Telling the truth by mistake: “TestingNov 22, 20:46
    • Nae Need! on Telling the truth by mistake: “Sorry, I forgot to mention all the clapping seals . . .of both sexes . . . who appear to…Nov 22, 20:41
    • Nae Need! on Telling the truth by mistake: “Only some delusional men ARE playing this game, the rest of us, men, women and children have the pitch queered…Nov 22, 20:34
    • Nae Need! on Telling the truth by mistake: “I’ll keep asking you this very simple question until you reply in DIRECT response to the question, with a YES…Nov 22, 20:25
    • Willie Fleming on Telling the truth by mistake: “testNov 22, 20:24
    • sarah on Telling the truth by mistake: “Donation done. Thanks for the nudge.Nov 22, 20:22
    • BLMac on Telling the truth by mistake: “Truly the king has no clothesNov 22, 20:21
    • Nae Need! on Telling the truth by mistake: “Do you support Scotland becoming a country again? Binary response suffices, canny understand why a simple yes or no should…Nov 22, 20:20
    • Tartanpigsy on Telling the truth by mistake: “Alba, ISP and whatever Peter Bell calls his party are between them going nowhere unless they unite under a pro…Nov 22, 20:15
    • meg merrilees on Telling the truth by mistake: “But does this mean that if you are a woman who has transitioned to a man and holds a GRC…Nov 22, 20:00
    • Nae Need! on Telling the truth by mistake: “Answer my question, please?Nov 22, 19:56
    • Robert Matthews on The Long Unravelling: “The most recent poll shows No 52 – yes 48.Nov 22, 19:49
    • Skip_NC on Telling the truth by mistake: “Alba stood in one ward and got 4.2% of the vote. We’re not quite where we need to be but…Nov 22, 19:46
    • Campbell Clansman on Telling the truth by mistake: “Do you think Alba–which was stuck at 1% while Alex Salmond was still alive–will ever amount to anything, especially since…Nov 22, 19:36
    • Nae Need! on Telling the truth by mistake: “Indeed. The GRA needs repealed. The Equality act 2010 can always be tweaked afterwards, IF necessary.Nov 22, 19:19
    • Nae Need! on Telling the truth by mistake: “NOT fine by me. But, on many other issues we may agree.Such is life.Nov 22, 19:09
    • Willie Fleming on The Long Unravelling: “They got a wee lesson in Dnepopetrovsk yesterday. And these were purely kinetic weapons, no warheads. A magnificent strike, took…Nov 22, 19:07
    • Chas on Telling the truth by mistake: “I must be old fashioned. I always thought if you had a dick, you were a man. If you had…Nov 22, 19:00
    • Robert Hughes on The Long Unravelling: “Spot-on , my friend . What sickens/concerns me is the scale , the extent and seemingly limitless power to construct…Nov 22, 19:00
    • Nae Need! on Telling the truth by mistake: “Do you support Scotland becoming a country again?Nov 22, 18:50
    • Campbell Clansman on Telling the truth by mistake: “Real world: in the 4 council by-elections yesterday, 118 people voted Alba–out of 10,204. The usual 1% for Alba, “the…Nov 22, 18:41
    • Confused on Telling the truth by mistake: “The BBC are starting a new charidee (for the kids) called “Children in Need (of COCK)” – and will feature…Nov 22, 18:32
    • Mia on The Long Unravelling: ““Britain could just tax the rich to fund the winter fuel allowance while still helping U” How exactly is helping…Nov 22, 18:06
    • Nae Need! on Telling the truth by mistake: “And I meant to say, thank you Stu, Chris and whoever else is involved . . . your highly specific…Nov 22, 17:58
    • James on The Long Unravelling: “Nothing false about it. Read it again.Nov 22, 17:40
    • Mark Beggan on Telling the truth by mistake: “Are you sure about the GRC’s? Nothings new!Nov 22, 17:38
    • Nae Need! on Telling the truth by mistake: “I’m so glad I grew up/was schooled in the 70s/80s. Just imagine being a wean the now . . .…Nov 22, 17:27
    • Nae Need! on Telling the truth by mistake: “I picked up on that too. Fucking lunatics the lot of them.Nov 22, 16:53
  • A tall tale



↑ Top
102
0
Would love your thoughts, please comment.x
()
x