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  1. I. Despair says:

    Roses are red,
    Violets are blue,
    Your career is dead,
    Wish you were too.

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  2. Dramfineday says:

    Delicious…..

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  3. AnneDon says:

    My brother just had a leaflet through the door from his SNP MSP, detailing all the wonderful things he’s done for the area.

    Not one mention of the political party he represents. Nor, as my brother pointed out, any mention of the Europe’s Most Impressive Politician
    #RuthDavidsonStrategy.

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  4. Beauvais says:

    A knock at the door.

    Is it Interflora or Interpol?

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  5. Stephen O'Brien says:

    Do we need permission for Self-Pollination?

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  6. Den says:

    Brilliant 🙂 best one yet imo

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  7. Fearghas MacFhionnlaigh says:

    Time perhaps again for that poignant little poem by Hugh MacDiarmid —

    “THE LITTLE WHITE ROSE

    The rose of all the world is not for me.
    I want for my part
    Only the little white rose of Scotland
    That smells sharp and sweet—and breaks the heart.”

    And as regards justice and injustice in high places, it might not be entirely amiss to take out of context the following first verse of MacDiarmid’s ‘First Hymn to Lenin’, and address it (of course without undue adulation) to Alex Salmond —

    “Few even o’ the criminals, cravens, and fools
    Wha’s voices vilify a man they ken
    They’ve cause to fear and are unfit to judge
    As they’re to stem his influence again
    But in the hollows where their herts should be
    Foresee your victory.”

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  8. chic.mcgregor says:

    Just a wee hint of Howson.

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  9. Daisy Walker says:

    Where have all the flowers gone
    Gone to Nikla
    every one
    when will we ever learn
    when will we ever learn

    Where have all the mandates gone
    Long time passing
    where have all the mandates gone
    far far away

    Where have all the mandates gone
    Under a gravy bus
    every one
    When will we ever learn
    when will we ever learn

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  10. Ian Brotherhood says:

    Turns out that yesterday was the climax of WGD’s annual fundraiser.

    He was asking for, among other things, ÂŁ2,500 to get his car fixed.

    I’m not joking:

    ‘I was especially nervous about launching the crowdfunder this year as my health issues mean that I can no longer update the blog daily, and of course because of the recent issues with the SNP. I thought that the crowdfunder would struggle badly. I had set a target of ÂŁ5000 which together with what I earn from writing for The National would give me an annual income more or less equivalent to a full time job paying the minimum wage. It’s not much but it’s enough to live on.

    I launched the crowdfunder on 5 June and am delighted to report that it has now exceeded its target. Between the GoFundMe page, and direct donations via Paypal or by other means, the total is now a tad over ÂŁ5900. This is particularly reassuring given that our car has just failed its MOT quite badly and it will cost ÂŁ2500 to get it roadworthy. This is a bill I had not budgeted for. I am totally dependent on being driven about by my partner as I can no longer drive myself and cannot use buses due to my poor mobility.’

    Twittery reaction suggests he’s not Pet of the Month.

    Anyone fancy a bet that he won’t show in Dundee next week?

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  11. stuart mctavish says:

    Cheers, nice one !

    If only they’d thought of it earlier Margaret Ferrier could have gotten some – particularly given the extent to which colleagues were allegedly convinced not only about the danger that she was in personally, but her risk to others in consequence.

    That said, initially triggered by the spirit of the jest, the following might be of interest to anyone able, or keen, to get legalgpt onside and proceed with due caution:

    Section 2(14) of Criminal Justice Act 1987 (*1) being, in context, an abomination (presumption of innocence renders entrapment fraudulent and a specific offence of telling lies to a policeman would be arbitrary) the strict inference from the oddly worded police caution (*2)

    “You do not have to say anything. But it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court. Anything you do say may be given in evidence.”

    when taken in context of Section 2 (3)(a)(ii) and (b)

    “..
    (3)
    The Director may by notice in writing require the person under investigation or any other person to produce at [F6such place as may be specified in the notice and either forthwith or at such time as may be so specified,] any specified documents which appear to the Director to relate to any matter relevant to the investigation or any documents of a specified [F6description] which appear to him so to relate; and—

    (a)if any such documents are produced, the Director may—
    (i)take copies or extracts from them;
    (ii)require the person producing them to provide an explanation of any of them;

    (b)if any such documents are not produced, the Director may require the person who was required to produce them to state, to the best of his knowledge and belief, where they are.
    ..”

    is that anyone who is questioned for serious fraud prior to being charged MUST become immune to prosecution (and presumably also able to invoke Scottish precedent to benefit from judicial review and reasonable compensation in advance of any such prosecution being attempted.. 🙂 )

    (*1) link to legislation.gov.uk
    (*2) link to hnksolicitors.com

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  12. Dan says:

    @ Ian Brotherhood

    Crikey! With WGD paying 2500 quid to get his car through the MOT he might want to consider giving up the blogging and instead learn vehicle maintenance and repair. Or alternatively spend his time learning which few models of car on the planet that aren’t just shitey money pits.
    It’s a worthwhile endeavor as bought my car for a hundred quid 10 years ago and it’s still going strong with over 300k on the clock.
    I got it cheap coz it needed… a radiator! Bonus was I managed to source a used one off ebay for 10 quid delivered! 🙂
    It did require 20 quid of antifreeze to fill cooling system though, because for some inexplicable reason Ford made the cooling system volume huge as if everyone was going to be towing a heavily loaded car and huge caravan across the Sahara.
    NB. Antifreeze isn’t just for winter to stop frost damage to engine, it also contains corrosion inhibitors to protect components in contact with the cooling system from damage.

    Top tips for MOT passing:
    Putting a pack of chocolate Hobnobs or box of fudge donuts in the passenger seat prior to test has been proven to increase pass rates.
    Probably going to be a straight fail if you put a YES badged car into a unionist run garage. And vice versa with a union jackery equipped vehicle into an Indy supporting garage.

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  13. Bob Mack says:

    @Ian Brotherhood.

    You mean Lord Hee Haw who indoctrinated the few to vote SNP?

    There are great cartoonists and above them is Chris Cairns.
    Brilliant depiction of where we are currently.

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  14. Bob Mack says:

    @Ian Brotherhood.

    You mean Lord Hee Haw who indoctrinates the few to vote SNP?

    There are great cartoonists and above them is Chris Cairns.
    Brilliant depiction of where we are currently.

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  15. ronald anderson says:

    Ian Brotherhood 12.54 .

    Paul Kavanagh has become a piece of work , he’ll be claiming disability benefits ( pip) at the higher rate because of his mobility & Carers allowance . I ditched him years ago BASTWARD .

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  16. ronald anderson says:

    Ian Brotherhood 12.54 .

    Paul Kavanagh has become a piece of work , he’ll be claiming disability benefits ( pip) at the higher rate because of his mobility & Carers allowance . I ditched him years ago .

    .

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  17. Astonished says:

    Brilliant cartoon, again.

    And great poem from “I, despair” @10.27am. May I say I agree with its sentiment.

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  18. Dorothy Devine says:

    Hey Ronnie Anderson, how are you?Good to see you here.

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  19. thothScot says:

    You’d think after slavishly trotting out support in the face of every SNP financial disaster (legal or otherwise), WGD would have remembered not to be honest about where a large chunk of the money was going.

    Also, with that kind of bill it may be time to look to start again with a replacement. It looks to be throwing good money after bad. You’d not take that sort of approach with other things, like ferries for exam…oh, never mind.

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  20. PacMan says:

    ÂŁ2.5k to get a car through it’s MOT?

    What’s Kavanagh got, a BMW?

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  21. twathater says:

    Are Durham lassies quick learners, Daisy Walker a cracker should be sung on the AUOB marches

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  22. chic.mcgregor says:

    And in yet another co-running Universe, another song lyric rewrite applies.

    She aint nothing like a Dame,
    Nothing more absurd.
    “Independence is to blame.”,
    Is all you need to become a Dame.

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  23. Wullie B says:

    @Ian Brotherhood
    I am surprised Wee Grifter Dug doesn’t have a mobility car, for which he wouldn’t have to pay for any upkeep with his medical problems

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  24. David Lee says:

    Not to be “that guy” but… that’s the English caution.

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  25. willie says:

    And don’t forget Kavanagh put the wee Ginger Dug down.

    No health reasons to do so. Just the inconvenience and impracticality after his stroke.

    And I recall his begging bowl message after he had the stroke where he was pleading for donations to allow him to get ” a wee cottage ” more suited to his needs.

    Sorry the guy is unwell but he’s a begging bowl lush looking for a freebie. He typifies the SNP grifters to a tee,

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  26. aLurker says:

    David Lee says:
    Not to be “that guy” but… that’s the English caution.

    Well spotted David.

    One might expect that that Female police officer would be saying it with her English accent. Being as she is English. From England.

    link to en.wikipedia.org

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  27. A Scot Abroad says:

    Don’t know about the police officer, but she seems to be engaged with a generic Indy idiot. Unfit, thick, unsure of what’s being said to him, and generally not fit for human purpose. Like your average Indy supporter.

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  28. Beauvais says:

    ASA @11:46 pm

    If sir, you cannot with logic and reason explain why independence is sensible and normal for around 200 countries but isn’t for Scotland, then you either have to abandon, or at least moderate, your vituperative disdain of Scottish nationalism or else have yourself considered the thicko you so hastily declare others to be.

    Remember, any retort must contain logic and reason, not simply more of your customary cheap insults.

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  29. North chiel says:

    Looks more like a Britnat lager lout to me

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  30. stuart mctavish says:

    David Lee @6:30

    This the one ?

    link to en.wikipedia.org

    Each crime its own merits but looks as though the Criminal Procedure (Scotland) act 1995 respected the Law in so far as refusing to give your name, address, place and date of birth, mothers maiden name, etc was a possible exception to being not obliged to answer any questions – and thus not a crime even AFTER you’d been charged as being suspected of involvement in an actual one.

    By contrast, the Criminal justice (Scotland) Act 2016 appears to have used ambiguity in the earlier act to introduce the name rank serial number obligation. A nucrime which, by accident or design, is negated by principle of Self ID (FFS? 🙂 )

    *not necessarily bad for business in the cops v robbers game since its been honed over centuries of war and is presumably intended as an aid to interrogation resistance rather than, say, as a means of grooming the public to make interrogations more challenging for those who enjoy that sort of thing.

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  31. Martin Conroy says:

    Surely it should be the Scottish caution and not the English one?

    “You are not obliged to say anything but anything you do say will be noted and may be used in evidence.”

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  32. Graham says:

    Sorry but I don’t get the cartoon, can someone explain who it is and what it’s referencing?

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  33. Confused says:

    it’s a stitchup of a fitup of a travesty of kangaroo court, but say it with flowers anyway

    the thug reminds me of a howson character; if I had the money, I think 300K is the going rate, I would commission him to paint a gigantic state of scotland/state of indy/state of politics canvas, involving all the characters and events since 2014.

    – a cheapo way of doing it would be to think of the elements, get the AI to draw the bits, then do a big collage, plus liberally ripping off known classics

    the r4pe of the sabine women (metoo, salmondgate)
    the raft of the medusa
    the ship of fools
    cronus devours his children
    napoleon crossing the alps
    mr and mrs andrews (murrell) gainsborough
    Belshazzar’s Feast (Rembrandt) “you have been weighed and found wanting”

    whatever does it for you, the pre-raphaelits, dada, vorticism.

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  34. Cactus says:

    Cuffs not required.

    It’s time to get the marching orders in place.

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