Wings Over Scotland

Oh, classy…

Words come cheap from Westminster.

Hold on, that’s from the SCOTTISH Sunday Express?

I’m glad you read all this shite so I don’t have to.

I do wonder what life in the rUK will be like if this transpires. How will rUK cope without Scotland and the EU?

But I don’t care enough to wonder very much.

“…Scotland’s departure is a bonus, not a problem.”

Just like Scotland’s O&G is never a bonus, and always a problem.

Now I see how this works.

Please let it be so. Soon.

They called us separatists when we wanted to cut out the middle man, and remain in a far bigger union of real nation states.

Perhaps ‘Isolationists’ would be an appropriate label for the little Englanders.

They’ll change their minds when they remember J.K. Rowling lives in Edinburgh.

Tweeted this a while ago about EU ref “it looks like this has a chance of becoming an English independence referendum”. With each passing day it seems to be more true.

Tiddler England (waggles pinkie), who every other nation will either ignore as irrelevant, or snigger at as they yap around the ankles of Uncle Sam imagining that they are punching above their weight.

This is the beginning of the end of the Union.

Next time , for Indyref2 , the whole UK , can have the vote , and Scotland will be voted out pronto .
At last the Yoons will get their way .

Let’s face it. Being hamstrung to Cammy’s UK is like being stuck in a party with Kevin and Perry Going Wee when, on the other side of the street, Woodstock’s happening.

What a load of unadulterated rubbish.Writer must have spent a lot of time with the gin bottle

On all the key pointers – food security, manufacturing level, educational level, population density, energy production and natural resources, Scotland is well placed to be a normal independent NW European country and just as successful as its Irish, Scandinavian and Dutch neighbours.

In fact Scotland is better placed than most of those.

England is not. England relies, very precariously, on a financial services sector which I sincerely hope can be retained indefinitely after Scottish independence but the runes are not at all favourable.

Heaven help them if their financial services sector goes West (actually more likely, East).

heedtracker says:
13 March, 2016 at 11:26 pm

If its Scotland that keeps England in the EU, there will be very big tantrums.

Unfortunately there’s very little chance of that happening, but it would be pretty amusing.

If we leave this kiddy on union the good ole USA will dump the Westminster wasters ASAP, the bottom will fall out of the glorious £ sterling and glorious Engerland will be up the proverbial creek with a load of out of date trident rockets in their back pocket where Scotlands wealth used to reside.

Hence the reason the lying thieving b*****bs will fight tooth and nail to hold on to us, while telling the ENGERLANDERS they are keeping us at vast expense to themselves, why? Recipe for a disaster me thinks.

heedtracker said @ 11:26 pm
If its Scotland that keeps England in the EU, there will be very big tantrums.

I saw an article (in either The Times or the Torygraph IIRC) which attempted to analyse this idea. Using the polling data for how much people in Scotland, Wales & N.Ireland want to stay in the EU, and presumably taking a guess at relative voter turnout, they attempt to work out what level of support for Brexit in England could be “overruled” by the rest of us and what level of support would “overrule” us.

I believe the figures where that anything up to 52% support for Brexit could be beaten, and anything from 56% would likely be unbeatable.

As you say, England being kept in the EU “against it’s will” might be entertaining to watch. Particularly as the media will doubtless put the entire blame on Scotland and fail to mention the contributions of Wales and/or N.Ireland.

I think Cameron put the EU referendum in their manifesto to have something to bargain away for a coalition deal with the LibDems, whilst simultaneously getting the Europhobic wing of the Tory party “on side”. Would be rather ironic if it cause the self-destruction of his beloved union!

I think we’re storing enough from them as it is, Dr Jim. I like to think in our new Scotland we’ll pick our own friends on our own terms, not those approved by states owned by a banking dynasty.

Scottish Sunday Express?
With peice that sound like it was pen in the “ivory tower of Westminster right wing politics” rather that from an informed Scottish perspective.
There is no outstretched palms here how could there be we are apparently a shared burden community well certainly we share the burden of these Express dogmatic outbursts well the express be arguing for Wales Northern Ireland and Cornwall to clear off and give them peace too!
What is the author attempting to achieve, other than drive down the circulation of SSExpress, is unclearly pro-exit but rather than present an argument to leave in a Scottish context they slap down the strongly pro-remain populace. THe peice has a feel of arrogance as if the author assumes the right to tell us “naughty children” to behave and fall in line or be sent to our rooms without supper again showing the underlying problem with the UK it is not a union of equals like EU but is dominated by one and control for the benefit of one city. I for one am tryed of being talked down to by hacks who can’t grasp that insulting the reads will not win them too the cause. The only way this peice makes sense is as a exercise in reverse psychology and the author is look to secure a Remain vote.

Sorry I appear to have been more annoyed by this than I thought when I embarked on this reaction indeed it is now longer that the origin of the offence if your still read I apologise for the length outburst.

The Scottish proud yoons ain’t that stupid they are sucking the wealth out of mother Englanders wallet and laughing all the way to the bank.
The little Englanders appear to be quite happy to sub these Proud Scottish yoons to the tune of £15b a year. Very spiritual or very stupid? Doing all this spiritual work while up to their arm pits in debt themselves. Dave is either telling them the truth telling us the truth or just talking pish. I’ll put my money on the urine.

That was in the so called “S

Now they’re just trying to hurt our feelings.

It’s fine. No reason to get excited. If the attitude that they are better off without Scotland gains traction, that can only help us in our cause. The rationale may be fatally flawed and it might be quite unsavoury in its xenophobic nature, but I don’t think its really a problem for us.

O/T did anyone notice that Scotland beat France at rugby? If you read the BBC website, you could be forgiven for not being aware. Their headline:

“England win Six Nations as France Lose”.

This is supposed to be a news service for the entire UK and yet our country (the winning country in the event in question) is not even mentioned in the headline.

Unbelievable. No, sorry, it’s the BBC. Completely believable.

Goodbye and watch for the door on the way oot to your new job!

link to archive.is

Heh, runaway narrative.

Who knew?

Newspaper owner desperate to evade taxes keeps on supporting the UKIP criminal and throwing taxpayers money down the drain while ripping off Scotland and losing trade. Newspaper proprietor who supports porn tell lies every edition, trying to rip off Britain and keep the tax haven status.

The sales are plummeting and it can’t be sold because no one is buying it. More media lies.

From the Scottish Daily Express – isn’t that just dandy?

I note that the comments below the line on the McKinstry article are quite revealing of the love felt.

May the edifice of the Fourth estate tumble about their ears – does anyone trust them any more?

“Leo McKinstry [author of the article] is a British journalist and author. Born in Belfast, Northern Ireland, McKinstry graduated from Cambridge University.”

goes on in that article to say:

“For too long the English, unlike the Scots, have been denied the right to express pride in their country.”

Strangely enough I have a lot of sympathy with that part. To reverse what he says earlier “They blather about throwing off the colonial English yoke“, I think it’s time the English establishment threw away the yoke and became non-colonial in its outlook. They’d be doing the English people a favour, and tackle the deficit far better than austerity has. The Empire is long-gone, except in the fond memories of the two Houses of Parliament, and their absurd rhetoric.

He’s firing blanks at the wrong target.

Another interesting development – rUK could be only England and Wales should England vote to leave the EU and Scotland votes for independence. Sinn Fein have said they’d hold a referendum if England voted to leave the EU and N.Ireland voted to remain. They say it’d be a reunification referendum but I wonder whether the Republic would hold one too and whether the Irish in the Republic would vote in agreement.

Aye.This Sunday Express article is representative of the views of a large and growing number of Middle Englanders.Are they going to bust a gut to save the union next time round? More importantly perhaps,are their Westminster representatives?

After attending the SNP spring conference and hearing Nicola,s brilliant speech, I thought I would read a lot of nonsense in the Sunday papers. To my surprise the only paper with a headline about the conference was the Sunday Herald.
There was quite a fair report on the inside pages I wonder what the other “Sundays” had to say? The usual lies like only a few hundred attended, we want another referendum and we will disappear into the deficit black hole.

I forgot capital flight. The Even Greater Depression. The City of London would become a dustbowl, and it wouldn’t be the Grapes of Wrath they’d be getting, they wouldn’t be able to afford the grapes.

OT again last time before I hit the pit. Checked yesscotland.net it’s registered until 2019-04-12. I wonder why?

Splashed across the front page of the print edition of the Sunday Express there is a huge banner which states

BUDGET SHOCKS IN STORE AS OSBORNE BIDS TO PLUG £18BN BLACK HOLE

In view of the fact that it is claimed that Scotland has a £15bn blackhole does this mean that if Scotland wasn’t in the Union the RUK would only have a £3bn blackhole.

I just hope all the NO voters are down on their knees thanking the people of the RUK for all the sacrifices they are making on their behalf.

I can’t see any reason for Nicola Sturgeon or any YES voter to thank the people of the RUK because YES voters did not want to take money from the hard working English taxpayer.

link to youtube.com

NAW

An I hope the NO, ers arent All Most Persueded.

‘English taxpayers’ cash that now goes into the EU’s bottomless coffers or the vast dependency culture in Scotland, where spending is £1,700 higher per head than in England, could then be spent on English public services.’

I could never understand why people in England were so keen to keep Scotland in their Union. Why did David Cameron fight with every fibre of his being to burden the English taxpayer with the expense of subsidising Scotland? What is in it for the English taxpayer?

It’s really weird that the UKOKs promoted that idea that people in Scotland hated the English but then expected the English taxpayer to fork out and pay to keep these anti-English scrougers in their Union.

I’m increasingly thinking the best outcome of the EU referendum would be England pulling out the EU and Scotland (and maybe Wales and NI) staying in. That way everyone in the UK will have a straight choice of whether they want to live in Little England, governed forever by the right wing, increasingly shrill and isolationist, or a newly independent Scotland in the EU.

If that happens, hopefully many of the UKIP and far right angry types up here would shift down and some of the more reasonable, outward looking types in England would move up, along with all the EU nationals and skilled non-EU workers who don’t earn £35,000. It may be the only way to bring some semblance of peace to what will otherwise be an endlessly fractious UK where half of Scotland want out the UK and half of England want out the EU.

O/T links

People wiped from electoral register urged to reclaim their spot
link to archive.is

Artist taxi driver
link to youtube.com

Reverse EDA disability benefit cut
link to petition.parliament.uk

link to gizmag.com

I’ve spent time in England, some in London, and very very few English people I met had a bad word to say about Scotland. How much of that was veneer, I don’t know. Truth be known, I doubt the average English person even thinks about Scotland at all very much. When they do, it is typically a Brigadoon stereotype where we chop up our shortbread with claymores, and our grubby kids fight for the crumbs.
When folks use the word veneer, it has two meanings; its thin, and it’s a false surface applied for appearances.
I only use the word veneer because it is thin, and because it’s thin, it is fickle, and doesn’t take much hostile input from a malignant media to change a neutral open mind into one that is suspicious and mistrusting.

The danger for us, is that we are just the same. Agitate hostility towards England, and it will fester in our hearts. We are better than this. It isn’t England who robs Scotland blind and treats us with contempt. It is Westminster, aided and abetted by their pressmen lackeys.

We should keep our affairs internal to Scotland, but doing that requires a measure of control over the two lodgers who have outstayed their welcome. That means Westminster’s hand on our assets, and the vile propagandists who infest and manipulate our media.

We can defeat Westminster fairly easily, armed only with truth and a ballot paper. But the tipping point is truth; and how we circumvent this odious blanket of Unionist propaganda which stifles mature debate about the direction and future of our Country.

There will be no reasoning or compromise with a BBC which serves UK interests. It isn’t there to be fair, it’s there to shore up Great Britain and quell rebellion by guile and skullduggery rather than bullets and battens. That’s it. The whole thing in a nutshell. Westminster might reign it in once in a blue moon, like a dog on a leash, but it’s false. They are still quite happy to let it snarl at us. It’s a very cheap and effective way to keep us troublesome Scots disillusioned and in our place.

Find a way to confound this propaganda; not just the hate flashes and fearmongering, but the insidious subtlety which is always there.

The SNP say they know where they went wrong at Indyref 1. Well good, it was hardly a mystery, but since they haven’t yet declared the BBC and Unionist Press as agencies hostile to the Scottish State, I have to wonder. I’m not altogether convinced by their battle plan for victory. Ignoring the problem won’t make it go away. And don’t forget, don’t think the media hasn’t learned from its own mistakes either.

Please, break the broadcasting monopoly. Get clever. Get creative. Get difficult to contain. We are troublesome Scots. Be troublesome. Even a free Scottish radio service, or even a twice a day Scottish news podcast… Do something. Do something behind closed doors. Do something by proxy. Pull strings, pull in favours, ask for favours.

If the SNP launches into a new campaign without a strategy for defeating the propagandists, then whatever you learned from Indyref 1, it still isn’t enough.

Surely any no voter reading that will regret or think twice next time. Surely? Breeks-exactly what I’m thinking and good point. The two ambushes yesterday on the BBC plus the Dundee sham last week must convince the SNP finally that that organisation is no friend to the cause. Why entertain them? They have shown time and again to be an enemy. Any other independence cause on earth would not go on to a state propaganda tv station that was so obviously following a different agenda. Why are the SNP constantly damaging the cause by getting ripped a new one almost daily by these shills?

Breeks says:

“If the SNP launches into a new campaign without a strategy for defeating the propagandists, then whatever you learned from Indyref 1, it still isn’t enough.”

The approaches of the two side in IndyRef was quite different, one with grassroots, the other with zero grassroots but massive influence via their loyal media. Yes’s grassroots made huge inroads, but in the face of the final propaganda surge with wild promises, Yes failed.

You are correct. The propagandists are in place, as strong than ever, and geared up for a tsunami of pro Union bull shit. The BBC in the vanguard.

Another aspect of IndyRef was Yes’s online domination. No’s online presence was a joke. Next time we should expect more serious online competition.

The SNP need to maximise on grassroots, and that means post election cooperation with other groups. However, I too am concerned that most of all, they need to tackle the most effective enemy of Scottish self determination – the propaganda of the colonial media.

QT on Thursday night. Marra , Davidson, Rennie, ProudscotsBut every one, all announced tot he UK audience that Scotland wqas a financial basket case; to wee, too poor etc.

Then the SAG in chief (Scottish Anglified Gentleman) Andrew Neil, the Great Westminster Blob himself, urged NS to thank Westminster for the £15 billion, on his pointless little Sunday show.

Of course the English Tory Rags will continue the subsidy junky theme.

They take their lead from the Scots/Unionists lackeys’ mouths every week. Scots born and proud to denigrate their nation at every opportunity.

Some may call Marra, Davidson, Rennie, and their motley Branch Office Crews Quislings, ("Tractor" - Ed)s, political liars, and the like.

Others may observe that they will do anything, say anything, and stand idly by while Scotland is transformed into a Third World Colony of the English Empire merely to hold on to their wee colonial post, and to further their own grubby little careers.

Lordships and knighthoods, visiting professorships and non exec jobs in banks, await the faithful, the ("Tractor" - Ed), the ProupScotsBut mob.

Check out the list of spectacular failures and the money they are coining in now. Darling, Foulkes, Robertson Reid, (both) Alexanders, Ming the Mighty, and so on.

Some may say that QT last week rivalled anything churned out by Nazi Germany, the USSR, or North Korea.

Some may observe all this; I couldn’t possibly comment.

However, do any of them really think that it is a vote winner to constantly deride Scotland and its people, the country of their birth, the fabulously wealthy and resource rich land in the NW of Europe?

Some would cry, ‘shame on you’.

Our day is not far off now.

@Rob Outram says: 13 March, 2016 at 11:05 pm:

“Sounds almost perfect to me. Little England all on its own pretending it still has a special relationship with Trump et al while trying to work out where to put it’s Nukes.”

On the subject of Trump, I have just come from doing research on USA educational standards. I needed to set up a USA grammar checker that required a reading grade standards setting.

It was a minefield to just get straight information but in the process I came across an article in the, (December 2014),USA version of the Huffington Post:-

link to huffingtonpost.com

Here is a wee sample from that Huff Post article:-

According to a study conducted in late April by the U.S. Department of Education and the National Institute of Literacy, 32 million adults in the U.S. can’t read. That’s 14 percent of the population. 21 percent of adults in the U.S. read below a 5th grade level, and 19 percent of high school graduates can’t read.

(The Bold text is by me).

Yet some people in Scotland are confident the Yanks are bright enough NOT to elect Trump.

I am no longer quite so confident.

@Capella

I saw a link somewhere and thought I’d saved it re NHS and firms bidding for contracts. I can not for the life of me think where, it may have been on facebook.

I do recall reading Lockheed had withdrawn a bid due to public outcry, I can’t remember where that was.

It would not surprise me if they were to change their company name in order to get the contracts.

I don’t have time to search right now.

link to facebook.com

link to government-ict.co.uk

Robert Peffers at 09:13,

About the reading thing, was that about reading in English rather than an alternative first language, or just reading?

The yanks do have a wonderful ability to slacken a jaw.

Reviresco says:
14 March, 2016 at 9:25 am
O/T
BBC re Easter Rising “16 executed. The British were incredibly lenient”

485 people died in fighting. Half were civilians.

It was an armed rising within the UK at a time when the Great War wasn’t going well. They could have played it much more firmly, executing everyone who fought against them.

At the time, public opinion was more for Home Rule. However, the Rising and executing the 16 swung opinion towards complete a fully independence republic and in 1918 Sein Fein took most seats outside Ulster.

That republic wasn’t achieved until 1948. Then had to make do with the Irish Free state, with some UK strings still in place. The Free State began with a nasty civil war where more died that had fighting WM rule.

Ireland is not a good model for Scotland to follow! Another century, a different situation.

Breeks @ 8 43

…. Breeks at 8.43 seems to understand my previous comment.

joemcg 9:49 am

You wrote: “Dave-I’ve re read that post five times and still don’t know what the F you are on about. BTW you contradicted yourself.”

Please explain what it is you don’t understand and in what way I contradicted myself.

@ Sensibledave

I lived in the Midlands for 10 years from 1990 through to 2006 and worked all over England in my job during that time.

With regularity, during that time, I was called jock, jockanese, sweaty, porridge wog, FRISB (That’s Fucking Repulsive Ignorant Scottish bastard by the way.

I had St George flags stuck to my number plate, was asked with tedious regularity to say “somebody’s murdered the purple burglar (apparently its funny to listen to a Scotsman roll his R’s)and had sundry folk speak to me in a Russ Abbott See You Jimmy accent.

I took some “friends” on a walking trip to Perthshire and they all threw their toys out of the cot when Rangers v Celtic was shown in the pub instead of an FA Cup Final.

Now, I’m not in the slightest bit interested in what happens in your mighty Kingdom of England, so take your “ambivalent” commentary about MY country, shove it as far up your hoop as you can and mind your own business.

There will certainly be English voters that would “prefer” Scotland to stay in the Union – but based upon my experience (as an Englishman living in England) – they are a small minority.

Says an odious tory. My experience is exactly the opposite sensible. I was in England in the last week of the referendum campaign and everyone I came in contact with was at first exasperated that Scotland might vote YES and then openly angry, really angry. They were so angry, I didn’t say anything, at first, then said I was a no. They all liked the heart yes, head no line.

They also all called it right sensible, close no, as we know. It wasn’t much fun, if only because the referendum wasn’t of much interest, until their historic The Vow shyst booted up and got huge coverage in England.

England is the UK sensibledave and Scotland’s merely a region it. I related to a lot of their anger though. I dont think Scots are any different really from the English as individuals, other than city and regional differences and quirks but that doesn’t make the case for Scottish devo any less important or inevitable.

Scotland is a nation state in waiting.

That’s the real headline.

I have to say the prospect of Scotland keeping England in the EU rather amusing, for the first time ever they will have their democratic will subverted by the country next door.

Will be nice to pint out to our English friends and family that’s the deal Scotland has had for 300 years.

Not very democratic eh?

“…You may argue that “westminster” or “the establshment” or “JK Rowling” pleaded for Scotland to stay in the Union – but not the English electorate – we were, and still are, generally speaking, ambivalent.”

Aye, sure. That’s why you’re not here.

This is a matter for people residing in Scotland and for them only so you can take your neb elsewhere. It’s none of your damned business and especially so if you are so “ambivalent”. You are adding little to our constitutional conversation.

I always suspected that the Yoons panic button was a wee bit on the LARGE side but GEEZ!

Hark what is that I hear? 😉

CLUNK … BANG … CRASH!

CLUNK … BANG … CRASH!

CLUNK … BANG … CRASH!

Oh hello there Gordon … how’s that banking job going in America? 😉

What’s that you have given it a rest for a wee while … you have returned to the land of your birth to save the union … AGAIN! 🙂

Oh I see … I understand completely … you are currently working on the VOW mark II! Good for you old boy. I look forward *YAWN* to reading it when your favourite newspaper *SNIGGER* the Daily Record prints it on their front page! 😀

Joemcg says:

“I have my doubts we are going to achieve our goal peacefully.”

I reckon there is a long established pattern to WM’s colonial dealings. They hang on for a while, playing dirty where the consider necessary to maintain a status quo. Then a combination of English public opinion and more-trouble-than-worth kicks in and they settle quickly and reasonably.

My hope is the London media assist on the English opinion side of things, as they already seem to be doing.

However, we are also in the ‘playing dirty’ phase which I also hope doesn’t get out of hand. They play a dangerous game and history shows it can also go bad before it gets better.

Cringe and bare it, Bitter and offal.

Scottish tories seem somewhat out of step with the rest of the UK ones in that they love being subsidised – has anyone told them that down south?

I am arguing that many here are so wrapped up in the Independence “bubble” – and are so looking for a fight with someone as a result – that they fail to see that which is in front of their face. In order to pursue the cause, an enemy needs to be created. Then, over time, because no one corrects them, the enemy they have created actually bears no resemblance to any actuality and all they do is create “straw man” arguments with the wrong people – because they are so deluded.

Over time, normal reasonableness between normal folk dilutes as the loonies start to hog the stage. Here are just a few quotes from the comments above:

Little England all on its own pretending ….. “

“Oh dear! I think the Little Englanders are going to find out just what ‘Little’ England means.”

“Tiddler England (waggles pinkie), who every other nation will either ignore as irrelevant, or snigger at as they yap”

“I think every Out voter in England should now apologise to Scotland and really really mean it. Let English apologising now begin.”

… those comments are at best immature, inaccurate stereotyping of 50 odd million people (who hold a very broad range of views on lost of subjects) – at worst, the “r” word is appropriate.

The comments seek to categorise and label a whole people into one, cheap, throw away grouping – just to suit an argument and get some “dog whistle” support on here.

The problem is highlighted by Ruby above when she wrote

“I could never understand why people in England were so keen to keep Scotland in their Union. Why did David Cameron fight with every fibre of his being to burden the English taxpayer with the expense of subsidising Scotland? What is in it for the English taxpayer?

Ruby, “people in England” were not “so keen” to keep Scotland in the Union – we were never asked. 55% of Scots were keen on keeping Scotland in the Union.

Ruby wrote “What is in it for the English taxpayer?” – further confirmation that Ruby hasn’t got a clue! The English taxpayer didn’t vote in the referendum. The English Taxpayer didn’t object to the referendum. The English taxpayer’s views were never canvassed as a populace.

What I know, and some others above seem to recognise, is that most English voters that I know just want the Scots too have whatever they want and for everyone to live in peace henceforth. I know this doesn’t help most of you above because if you actually believed that – then you would have to re-evaluate your whole position.

All I can do is pop up every now and again to remind the sane ones here to focus on the real issues – rather than the sort of nonsense quoted above by the loonies.

“The English taxpayer’s views were never canvassed as a populace.”

And, lest you fail to comprehend, Dave, that is because the question of Scotland’s independence is no one else’s business but those residing in Scotland.

Now, if you feel so hard done by then canvass your own MPs and have your own referendum about your own place in this ‘Union’. No one is stopping you. And I am sure that I can speak for many here when I state that we wouldn’t butt into your national conversation in the manner that you are butting into ours.

‘Moreover, far from weakening our nationhood as Cameron pretends, independence from both the EU and Scotland would be a tremendous catalyst for the revival of England’s patriotic spirit. For too long the English, unlike the Scots, have been denied the right to express pride in their country.

Brexit now presents a golden moment for the reinvigoration of England’s identity. On the other hand, a vote to remain means our certain national demise under the wheels of the EU’s federalist juggernaut.’

I do think we need to focus more on what is going on in England. They certainly seem to be having an ‘identity crisis’

When was England denied the right to express pride in their country?

Is that due to the UK entering into illegal wars, making a mess in Libya, Iraq & all over the place and all the child abuse. Is it because England have nothing to be proud of?

What is England’s identity?

We all better listen to the Arsehole troll coz he says he speaks for the majority of England
That must make him an Arsehole of great importance then
he’s been round all the doors in the great country of England
and that’s what they’ve told him

Whereas we don’t speak for the majority of Scotland, 45% and rising, is that not quite a lot you Fukcing dick

I’m in a really sweary mood today because as usual anything Scottish becomes automatically the business of the English and they don’t even see or care about how Fukcing arrogant that is

It’s about time they sorted out their own country instead of interfering in ours
Planning Wars on somebody every 5 minutes
Doctors on strike
Crime through the roof
English ministers surrounded by armed guards
Fences surrounding NO 10
Child molesting Lords unpunished
More homeless people in London than the population of Glasgow

One more thing Scotland did not run out of oil revenues
The Fukcing UK did that’s why the English Parliament is skinning the poor the sick the disabled and now the pensioner to claw back the money it no longer receives

Now we have the internet awash with self opinionated English people who think they’re somehow entitled to have a say in Scotlands business, and they would if they Fukcing lived here same as the rest of us and not the xenophopic racist rantings that emanate from that country’s newspapers
and government sponsored terrorist telly

Last night I read proud Yoonionist Tweets on how they had threatened SNP ministers and prospective candidates and were ready to get the violence started if they came to their doors again

That’s your Union, stick it as far up your Arse as it can go and get tae Fukc we don’t want anything to do with you
you’re sickening

Aaah! Better now

Breastplate at 10:56 am

You wrote “Should Scotland be an independent country?”

… its not up to me Breastplate. At the risk of stating the bleeding obvious, it is up to the electorate in Scotland – and when last asked, they said No.

So an independent Scotland starts off with NO debt … thanks Georie Porgie ya wee Towel Folder you. 😀

link to bbc.co.uk

ALL the tax and revenue generated in Scotland STAYS in Scotland and does NOT end up in wee Georie Porgie’s back pocket. 🙂

Austerity and its continual CUT … CUT … CUT to the Benefit system that HELPS the low paid, poor, unemployed, homeless, disabled and elderly disappears NEVER to show its ugly face again in Scotland, so long as SNP are in government at least. 😀

Yes I DID include the elderly in the benefits statement above for one very simple reason their PENSIONS are a benefit … apparently! 🙂

No more will Scotland have to pay for infrastructure it NEVER uses such as HS2, Cross Rail 1, Cross Rail 2, London Super Sewer, London Underground upgrade etc. 😀

No longer will Scotland have to pay for the abhorrent Trident system. 😀

No longer will Scotland be regularly put at risk by nuke transports on Scottish roads passing through our cities, towns and villages. 😀

Oh and in case anyone throws a wobbler and tries to tell us we cannae use the pound guess what? 😉

Ye cat tak yer stinky old pound and stick it where the sun don’t shine … we dinnae want it! WE have oor own alternatives! 🙂

the Ryal

the Digital Scotspound.

link to thenational.scot

You know what folks! 😉

I think I can see myself warming to this independence thingy. 😀

The English taxpayer voted for David Cameron who fought with every fibre of his being to burden the English taxpayer with subsidising basket case Scotland.

You can’t argue that the English taxpayer didn’t get a vote. They could have voted for the English democrats who I don’t believe wanted to subsidise scrounging Scotland.

The only guys in England who made sense during the IndyRef were these football fans

link to tinyurl.com

Arbroath 1320, it occurs to me that when Andrew Neill goes for a dump we subsidise 8.5% of the penny he spends using London Sewers.

We lost the battle but will win the peace.

Not long now.

Sensibledave.

Simply, you are an arrogant prick.

Jack Collatin says:
14 March, 2016 at 11:25 am

Arbroath 1320, it occurs to me that when Andrew Neill goes for a dump we subsidise 8.5% of the penny he spends using London Sewers.

Not long now.

*spews coffe out over keyboard! 😀

I think you are right there Jack. 😀

Now where did I leave the cloth … I need to clean my keyboard up . 😀

We need more of these articles in run up to May and beyond.

Excellent promotion for Scottish Independence .

He encapsulated some of the sheeite we have to endure on Twitter by psycho Yoons.

So much better to share this Sheeite to those who rely on their (ahem) news via MSM.

Expresses perfectly why Scots are Better OUT (of UK) than IN (UK) never mind EU In or Out.

Oh Leo you are awful, but please write more of the same, keep nasty tone as it works for me and you’re a dab hand at expressing your loathing of us Scots as being subsidy junkies ya ken.

Would sae gaun yirsel but aware that you are but one of many who feel same way about us Scots.

State o you whinging (ahem) Journo lol

The point, Ruby, is that indyref#1 was none of anyone else’s business but those residing in Scotland. All those you list in your post were sticking their snibs in where it wasn’t wanted and they hand no right to do so. And they’re STILL doing it.

The more the English whinge the better. I believe we are now seeing the truth about how people in England view Scotland and the Scots.

Bitter together indeed. Time to end this disgusting union.

Just for the record, can someone tell me the difference between a “little Englander” and someone who is pro Scottish Independence.

I get the impression, I may be being overly sensitive though, that the term “little Englander” is being used above as in a pejorative sense?

If the term is indeed being used as a pejorative, can someone then tell me, roughly, what percentage of English people fall into the category of being “little Englanders”? Just so I know.

I most definitely want the ‘English voter’ to contribute here because I would love to know what they are thinking!

Please note I said ‘English voter’ and by that I mean people who have a vote in England I don’t care if they are English or not.

Proud Cybernat says:
14 March, 2016 at 11:50 am

The point, Ruby, is that indyref#1 was none of anyone else’s business but those residing in Scotland. All those you list in your post were sticking their snibs in where it wasn’t wanted and they hand no right to do so. And they’re STILL doing it.

Ruby replies

It is their business if they are the ones who have to be burdened with subsidising ‘scrounging Scotland’

What I found really strange was that they seemed so keen to bail out ‘scrounging Scotland’ and equally weird that NO voters were so keen to accept charity!

I just hope that the NO voters will heed Andrew Neil’s advice and they will all be on their knees thanking “the English, who are a marvellous people, who are really very generous to Scotland.”

Personally what I want to say to ‘the marvellous generous people’ is

‘Why are you so generous to Scotland? Are you mugs?’

For fuck sake stop feeding trolls, the guy’s an arsehole end of!

No idea how many ‘little Englanders’ there are in England but there must be a lot because they’ve got David Cameron running scared. Why else would he have announced EVEL on the day after the Indy Ref and why else would he be having an EU Ref?

When I say I would like ‘English voters’ to contribute I would like them to be informed and be able to answer questions about what’s going on in their country. ie How many ‘Little Englanders’ are there in England.

‘Little Englander” is an epithet applied in criticisms of British nationalists, English nationalists, or English people who are regarded as xenophobic and/or overly nationalistic and are often accused of being ‘ignorant’ and ‘boorish’. It is sometimes applied to opponents of globalism, multilateralism and internationalism, such as those who are against membership in the European Union.’

We’ll find out after the EU Ref how many ‘Little Englanders’ there are.

heedtracker at 12:10 pm

Go on then Heedy, even though I know I am wasting my time because you are incapable of comprehension of the written word, quote me one example of where I have written something that demonstrates that I am a “little Englander”.

Remember Heedy, I dont want one of your pathetic UKOK, Red/blue Tory “cut and paste” diatribes – just quote back to me something that I have written.

Yours, in vain hope

Sensibledave

I see Hamish on a very English lawn, carefully mown with UJ patterns… He sits with a marguerite in paw … She loves me, she loves me not …

sensibledave says:
14 March, 2016 at 12:28 pm
heedtracker at 12:10 pm

Youre merely a funny little Englander, out of your league, bearly comprehending what’s happening in Scotland you clearly know little if anything about. How frightfully little Englander of you.

From rancid The Graun’s ghastly victorious crappola of vote NO or else thuggery up there

“Cameron said: “The people of Scotland have spoken and it is a clear result. They have kept our country of four nations together and, like millions of other people, I am delighted.”

But that’s a lie innit sensible?

or

“The prime minister promised a devolution revolution across Great Britain, including votes on English issues by English MPs at Westminster, as he hailed Scotland’s decision to remain inside the UK.”

Red tory little Englander The Graun liars and hypocrites quoting blue tory shyster Cammers. But on balance sensibledave, toryboy No.1 is getting his UKOK devolution revolution, the people of Scotland are making UKOK sure of that.

OT completely.
Last Thursday a pensioner stopped the Trident Convoy in Balloch on it’s way South for a checkup.
Polis arrested the pensioner.
BBC Scotland DID NOT REPORT THIS.
They cannot claim they didn’t know—-someone’s bound to have told them.
BBC Scotland depends on the public phoning in with stories.
Trident Convoy stopped,and pensioner arrested on busy road——-complete BBC Blackout.
BBC “Reporting Scotland” my foot!!

sensibledave @1.46pm. What does “Rubes” mean?

Dippy Dave: “Forgive me if I assess SNP “thinking” critically when it comes to matters such as those being discussed today”

It’s difficult to name a more condescending little toady than Dave, happy to prove it post after puerile post.

Here’s a sentence he made up but has no proof it exists:

“We would be left behind and that we were “little Englanders” for disagreeing.”

… yo Grousey I see your general disposition has not improved!

Have you no comment on Mr Salmond’s foresight and judgement then Grousey. Not even the bit when he said “‘I think that being outside the euro area is already penalising the Scottish economy. In the medium-term, the longer we stay out, the more damage will accumulate’

… turned at to be a load of bilge – just like I, personally, predicted – maybe because I know more about international currencies and interest rates than he does – and frankly, so does my dog. Mr Salmond spouted from the perspective of what he thought would cause the biggest issue for the Union rather than from any actual knowledge. But here we are, 17 years later and we know, factually, Mr Salmond was …… er, let me think of the word ….. wrong! 100% wrong. More wrong than the wrongest wrong thing.

… and yet, he and his ilk (in all parties) have no contrition, no doubt, no self-awareness – and no memory. But I have!

I doubt very much that our “Scottish Sunday Express” will have passed this with the treasury.
Who will presently be having kittens. Thinking ” bloody hell, what do we do if this catches on!, oh
Shit”