No, obviously since there’s an infected Dominic Cummings about.
Morgatron
4 years ago
Peek a boo.
Richard
4 years ago
Ah, now we can all play croquet
The Isolator
4 years ago
It’s a ripper Chris.Love it.
Helena Brown
4 years ago
It exists, just need to get it a bit more empty. Walking the dogs is Hell for all the folk walking about our wee village.
stuart mctavish
4 years ago
Probably, from a perspective that assumes Dom Cummigs parents and their nearest neighbours are in robust health
Possibly not from a perspective that questions not only why police thought it appropriate to give him a talking to in the first place but also how they were able to collude with media, particularly social media presumably, to cover it up for him..
Frank Gillougley
4 years ago
Of course the obvious irony of this small door opening onto this landscape is its colonial ownership
Once this Coronavirus finishes things won’t be the same, the people of Scotland have started to see the difference between the four countries in the Union, and as Scotland is the most ancient country we should and will be the first country to dissolve the Union, it’s definitely coming and england or the two other countries won’t stop happening.
Bill Hume.
4 years ago
Not yet Hamish, but we’re getting there.
p.s. I’m rather glad it’s blowing a hoolie and tipping it down today as it will discourage those who are inclined to ‘jump the gun’on the new rules, from venturing out.
(It also means I get a break from gardening).
Bill Hume , softy! I have already been weeding and cutting this morning – I am an ace demolisher , not so good at the rest.
Ottomanboi
4 years ago
End this state sanctioned suppression! Get infantilizing ‘authority’ out of your head.
Let the rational individual CHOOSE his and her destiny.
…and enough of the highly questionable official stats too.
SOCIALIZING, THE THING THAT MAKES US TRULY HUMAN.
Golfnut
4 years ago
@ Bill Hume.
Well I was supposed to be painting the eaves today / tomorrow, but now I’m painting the bathroom ceiling, whit!
Chris, that would make a fine finishing hole back to the clubhouse, have you thought about taking up designing golf courses.
Golfnut
4 years ago
@ Scot Finlayson.
Considerations on your cancelled trip, likewise we had planned a trip to Barra, camping. Still, something to look forward to.
Golfnut
4 years ago
Should read commiserations.
Ottomanboi
4 years ago
Recall all that stuff about Islamist terrorists, covered heads and faces, niqab, burqa etc?
People walking about with face masks and scarves and surgical gloves haranguing you for not doing likewise is considerably more scary.
Fear is bringing out the conformist, inner Orwellian in so many.
> Let the rational individual CHOOSE his and her destiny.
Sounds lovely except I don’t want selfish individuals choosing my destiny.
In a perfect world of black and white we would all have all the liberty we wanted. But when dreaming of this it is always forgotten that significant responsibility that comes with that. “Authority” is for all it’s problems a broker in the relationship between freedom of the individual and society in general. We delegate to authority things that would otherwise be awkward to manage at an inter-personal level.
So, you are more than welcome to throw off the chains of authority and enjoy your freedom as long as you accept my freedom to have you punished in a suitable manner for taking away the freedoms of my family members by your reckless behaviour.
Capella
4 years ago
Affa bonny. Quite like the view from my location. But what is that wee rectangle on a post in the bottom right hand corner?
There’s an acronym for the vast area of Scotland north of Perth – MAMBA – Miles And Miles Of Bugger All – which has been the case for 200 years.
winifred mccartney
4 years ago
Did Cummings stop for petrol before he left London or en route and leave his covid virus along the way. Bad enough to break lock down but to do it while suffering Covid is reprehensible, surely some other arrangement could have been made for the children or parent could have come to them, was he trying to promote his ‘herd’ immunity theory.
James
4 years ago
covid is bollocks
Capella
4 years ago
Interesting thread about the potato famine in Scotland in 1846 and the Destitution Boards set up to raise money. Gardeners will like the advice on sowing a rood of Beans in February, in Scotland! link to twitter.com
couple of years ago we done/did a cycle trip from Castlebay up to Tarbert over to Uig and through Skye to Armadale,
we got the sun that year,
the scenery is beyond stunning, no place like it on this planet.
Doug
4 years ago
“Stand guard at the portal of your mind.”
Ralph Waldo Emerson
jfngw
4 years ago
Apparently if you feel you have virus symptoms it is now perfectly acceptable to drive to your parents, distance no object, but if you don’t have any symptoms it is against the rules.
I think feel the effects of the virus coming on, I’ll be going to see my family soon then. Cummings either goes or the whole lockdown has a hole in it, too many in power have ignored it when it is convenient for themselves, including quite a few MP’s
Joe
4 years ago
@Stuart Mackay
Which leaves those who seek authority the option to present to you a threat and in seeking security you will hand over the authority they seek.
Fear is the tool of tyrants and it works on the weak every time.
mike cassidy
4 years ago
Presumably Cummings thought
If its ok for Charlie Mountbatten-Windsor …..
Ian Brotherhood
4 years ago
‘You can go and see yer pals next Thursday’ is fast becoming a meme.
jfngw
4 years ago
Things are looking bad for the Tories, I expect that’s the last we’ve seen of Ms Davidson for a while, back to the hideaway till the dust settles I predict.
Although I predict the BBC are at this minute ferreting around for a SNP cover story.
It’s strange how the MSM was stalking the Scottish CMO at this time but nobody noticed Cummings driving 250 miles.
callmedave
4 years ago
“Hello anybody out there” ?
Excellent again Mr Cairns.
Pete
4 years ago
Well done Cummings.
Lockdown is a complete nonsense, anyway.
It’s just a means of keeping the peasantry under house arrest.
Sorry, I haven’t and I will not be a party to it.
State control – no thanks.
george wood
4 years ago
That phrase still makes me squirm. I’ve never liked going to the dentist.
Every body is concentrating on where Dominic Cummings parents live but nobody is asking where his Wife’s parents live do they live closer to london
Golfnut
4 years ago
@ Scot Finlayson.
Some trip on a bike, but worth the effort no doubt about that, we camped at Port Ban last year, Jura across the water right outside our tent, the mist rolling up and down the sides of the mountains. We went to the march in Campbelltown, we had hoped to fit in a trip back to Kyntyre and check out some of the golf courses.
John Gordon
4 years ago
Yes, anything to distract from the mess Westminster is making of the whole affair. And always to distract and attempt to counter anything which might promote the independence cause. Don’t get distracted.
The Forward as One court case is moving ahead. It is the one positive thing that has been going on regarding actual progress towards independence which is not reliant on the Scottish government. Everyone who wants a resolution on the question of the legality or otherwise of the UK government position regarding a referendum should be interested. More details here:
My mothers friends husband collapsed today and was rushed to hospital – brain haemorrhage.
One of the NHS priorities was to test him for COVID (no doubt for their safety) and guess fucking what – yip, tested positive.
result – no operation and they are leaving him to die.
His wife has been told she can do a quick in and out or wait at home for the phone call.
He will die today.
No doubt his death will go down as ‘with’ COVID
I thought the yankee doctor was just nuts when he said ‘hit with a bus – COVID, blow your own brains out with a gun – COVID’
Maybe Chris should’ve put a hospital in his picture.
There’s no Bakersfield Doctors in our NHS, that’s for sure.
Golfnut
4 years ago
Here’s a video debate lockdown/anti lockdown. Both did a written submission which is worth a read and both pretty convincing, which is of course the dilemma for most.
Of course, the world abounds with nefarious characters seeking to gain political advantage during a crises of government.
Virtues, Values, and Moral Bullying
Critical thinking in social media psychology. link to psychologytoday.com
ahundredthidiot
4 years ago
Stuart Mackay @ 10:05
congrats – you get saddest post of the day award.
and for your info Stuart, there is carbon dioxide in the air (and we all know that stuff kills you) so please stay indoors until it is safe to come out………we’ll let you know soon enough.
CameronB Brodie
4 years ago
This might help folk figure out who is trying to help and who isn’t.
What determines the balance between intelligence signaling and virtue signaling? link to lesswrong.com
ahundredthidiot
4 years ago
Sorry Golfnut, but that piece is states;
‘the only data that we can be clear about are the raw number of deaths. In 2015 there were 28,330 deaths from seasonal flu’
The Excess Deaths for 2015 was 44,000 deaths.
secondly, it goes on to ‘project’ deaths to 4th Aug resulting in 43,479 (note the odd number at the end to give it credibility – an old trick from Vietnam War body counts) – please tell me how the fuck they can project that number??
The inevitable debate coming down the line is flu 2015 versus COVID 2020 – and this argument for me, is that start of the disinformation to make it look otherwise.
For clarity – 2015 44,000 and 2020 COVID 36,393 and counting.
2015 planes flew, business flowed, freedom prevailed.
2020 – everyone under house arrest and legislation that will be there for a generation and a Bill that will clear out pension funds.
The post and the argument is fit for the schoolyard.
have cycled on Jura,short trip on tiny ferry from Port Askaig huddled under a grain truck from the cold wind and rain,
got absolutely soaked but what a preternatural place Jura is.
innocent
4 years ago
Just tried to check up on the wings twitter feed re: everything cummings and couldn’t find it?
liz
4 years ago
Brilliant Chris. Nothing is 100% safe.
Alan Mackintosh
4 years ago
Capella, I think you need to put your glasses on, that is no post in the corner, and the “sign” is something very familiar…
try clicking on the image for a bigger view
Capella
4 years ago
@ Alan Mackintosh – ha ha you’re right – it’s Hamish. I’d go and get my eyes tested but the opticians are on furlough. 🙂
Joe
4 years ago
@ahundredthidiot
I don’t like doing this but have you got a throwaway email or a gab.com account? (though gabs been offline for a few days due to maintenance as it seems the world is leaving twitter)
Grouse Beater
4 years ago
Very elegiac, Chris, very nice indeed. Thank you. A watercolour? Are you breaking out into landscapes? – there’s a fine talent there.
Just read today that SAGE are saying that there is no scientific justification for the 2 metre distancing rule. It was just precautionary.
Apparently, 1 metre is probably sufficient and outdoors it is probably a waste of time.
Only one recorded case of someone catching the virus outside and that was speaking to another very close up.
The whole thing is a nonsense!
jfngw
4 years ago
@ahundrethidiot
What a fake comparison excess deaths to covid deaths, then comparing 20 weeks of data with 53 weeks of data.
So I checked for E & W:
The average per week excess for 2015 is 870, using your 44,000 figures (although I can only see 35,722 but it depends on how you calculate it).
The average excess per week so far in 2020 is 2,250.
jfngw
4 years ago
@Pete
The 1 metre has been the rule in some other countries, if the person has a cough I would probably stay a bit further away.
It can’t be nonsense a lot of people are dead. The rules may have been overly strict but if you were the person that was going to be held culpable, and the media like a scapegoat, you would probably go on the side of caution.
It would have been good to have had some proper research into the risk through different transmission paths, but this isn’t going to appear till after it is over I suspect, if ever.
Effijy
4 years ago
Mary Wakefield is the woman Dom Cummings married.
As you should expect, she is the grand daughter of Sir Humphr
Wakefield of Chillingham Castle Northumberland.
She works for the right wing extremist rag the Spectator.
Her brother Jack Wakefield worked for a very dodgy Ukrainian
Business man who it is believed has links to the Russian Mafia.
A group who were involved in stealing Russian assets when the
Soviet Union was broken up.
If you care to look at the money made by those who own the Russian
Oil and Gas Companies.
So much money made the key stake holders can afford Billions for the
Worlds biggest football clubs and the larges luxury yachts afloat.
Could all this be a link to the Billions spent on London property by Russians.
Is Dom enduring that London is a safe haven for laundering mafia money?
When Scotland’s Epidemiologist Specialist was forced to resign for travelling to
A holiday home, I felt she should have been reprimanded and fined significantly
and yes removed from public exposure but we should not lose the most knowledgable
Expert in the field as it was cutting your nose off to spite your face.
However I’m left to confirm that we in Scotland face different morals and laws to the English establishment.
3 x Useless Tory MSP’s travel to go hillwalking together and post it on-line and Nothing?
Tory MP travels to a second home during the same lockdown and Nothing?
Prince Charles travels up to Scotland with the Virus and entourage and Nothing?
Now Cummings, puppet master to Boris, travel with the Virus and family 250 miles during lockdown
Using a petrol station and a Service Stations facilities where innocent members of the public
Who are part of our essential services teams are and Nothing?
Scotland you are 2nd Class citizens in the UK.
You will never be treated as equals
You will be controlled by those controlled by the money of the worlds most corrupt organisations
and you are not fighting to change your own countries destiny?
ahundredthidiot
4 years ago
Joe at 12:02
I’m afraid I have neither.
Probably at the stage where I should stop posting on here though (yay!, I hear from the bed-wetters in the background) – I went a month or so recently and it did me good/getting back to my stoic ways!
Capella
4 years ago
@ ronnie anderson 10.59 – thx for link. Excruciating. Mary Wakefield gets down on her knees to pray for Boris Johnston. Then drives 230 miles, shedding virus all the way, but fails to record that in her covid diary. Cummings will have to resign but that won’t stop him plotting our downfall on a consultancy basis.
mr thms
4 years ago
In the week up to the 17 May, 7300 people in England tested positive for the virus.
At Priti Patel’s Coronavirus Briefing on the 22 May, she announced 3287 people had had tested positive in the previous 24 hours.
From 18 May to 22 May (there was no figure for 20 May) the total is around 10000.
With the lockdown easing in England next week’s infection should be interesting.
Alan Mackintosh
4 years ago
Effigy, Catherine Calderwood wasnt an epidemiological expert, from memory she was a Gynaecologist. She may have been the CMO, but that doesnt make her an expert on epidemiology. As for Jason Leitch the clinical director – from a sibling who is a dentist- no-one has heard of him in Scottish Dentistry so I have no idea where he came from either, and he’s no expert in epidemiology either, he was apparently a dentist
mike cassidy
4 years ago
ahundredthidiot
How many NHS personnel died during the 2015 flu epidemic?
Famous15
4 years ago
Allan Mackintosh I rarely use such words but a wee glance at wicki will show what you said is.
“I’m afraid I’m at the stage I should stop posting on here”
At least you recognise your sell by date has expired.
robertknight
4 years ago
Blackford on the telly – bumbling oaf spouting faux outrage as though NS handled the Calderwood carry on with any degree of competence.
I’ll never believe another word that falls from that man’s lips…
“We will not allow Scotland to be dragged…” Blah blah blah.
Donkey!
Pete
4 years ago
Famous15
Allan Mackintosh is correct.
Neither are epidemiologists.
Their backgrounds are obstetrics and oral surgery then into public health and patient safety.
ahundredthidiot
4 years ago
Peter Hitchens said;
‘Government is throwing people into the sea and then taking credit for rescuing them’
Belter.
Effijy
4 years ago
Alan MacIntosh and Private Pete.
From all the horrific details within my post you pick out
The insignificance of our health advisors qualifications?
We are proven to be beneath 2nd class citizens and
The Westminster puppets are linked to the Russian Mafia.
Are the numbers 77 on your uniforms or 6’s on the back of your head?
Beaker
4 years ago
@James says:
23 May, 2020 at 10:23 am
covid is bollocks
If they are infected I have only one question.
How did that happen?
Alan Mackintosh
4 years ago
Effigy, many years since I wore uniform and it wasnt 77 brigade or 6th Div.
Sorry for not commenting on the other points in your post, but I didnt have any knowledge to hand to comment on them. My post above was regarding the qualifications of the personnel and how that pertains to the situation.
As for Cummings, probably the stuff you mention is true/possibly true- I’m not sure. But he will likely weather this because I cant see Johnson functioning without him. If he goes, Johnson will probably fall
ahundredthidiot
4 years ago
haha – gotta love family guy
The brothers who made the Matrix are ladies now!
oh man, that cheered me up, world is fckn nuts…..
Effijy
4 years ago
Have a look at the Firtash Foundation
Mary Cumming’s brother Jack has close links to-
In December 2011, Wakefield married Dominic Cummings, a friend of her brother Jack Wakefield,[8] former director of the Firtash Foundation.[9]
mogabee
4 years ago
Nice ‘toon Chris.
(Campbeltown is lovely, even in the wind and rain. 😀 )
Safe? No not yet and if it was left to some of the lunatics posting on here many of us with partners, friends, sisters etc who have health disibilities would be ok to move among the general population while this pandemic rages.
I sometimes fucking despair.
But, I know that we don’t listen to idiots online. Thankfully
Dmytro Vasylovych Firtash (Ukrainian: ??????? ??????????? ???????; born 2 May 1965) is a Ukrainian businessman who heads the board of directors of Group DF.[1] U.S. federal prosecutors described Firtash in 2017 court papers as an associate of Russian organized crime.[2] He was highly influential during the Yuschenko administration[citation needed] and the Yanukovych administration.[3] As a middleman for the Russian natural gas giant Gazprom, Firtash funneled money into the campaigns of pro-Russia politicians in Ukraine.[4]
Golfnut
4 years ago
@ ahundrethidiot.
The point of the post was to highlight the difficulty, because both arguments were well presented, just how difficult it was for an ordinary member of the public to decide for or against, I’m sorry you didn’t get that.
jfngw
4 years ago
The evidence of BBC bias is no better displayed by how they covered the Scottish CMO case and how they have moved in to defend the UK Gov advisor. No questions just quotes from those ‘close to Dominic Cummings’, tweeting out the excuses with no investigation of the bollocks they are.
robertknight
4 years ago
Puppet-master Cummings is only as useful as his boss continues to be. Once the men in grey suits decide Brexit is done and Covid-19 becomes background noise, they’ll both be gone.
fillofficer
4 years ago
looks like hamish on the set of the truman show
hello world
if only
Clapper57
4 years ago
Sooooooooooo
Lib Dems….the party whose first response is always ‘Resign’….for a certain party…only.
What they say about Dominic Cummings..( checked 2pm today).
Well Alex C Hamilton…retweeted Matt Forde tweet….as Alex chooses NOT to tweet an opinion himself.
Willie Rennie..retweeted Ed Davey comment….as Willie chooses NOT to tweet an opinion himself…
Christine Jardine…retweeted Tim Farron…as Christine chooses NOT to tweet an opinion herself.
Alistair Carmichael…nowt on his Twitter re this….did he NOT get the MEMO….Lol
Why so shy when normally they are first out of the block to shout RESIGN…..this reticence to formulate a direct opinion is so out of character…it’s obvious to us that collectively they should have all being demanding he resigns….are they ill ?
Scottish Tories….well they are still in operation deflection mode…..as befits their branch position….they are HQ’s rearguard obvs…….and surprisingly they have all decided “Now is not the time” to have an opinion…….shocked I am…
Pity that the BT flanks have been temporarily broken….however I’m sure normal service will be resumed and once more they can all regroup into the one UK uber alles party….and begin another new battle….for the Union.
ps. Never bothered checking Scottish Labour Twitter…cause…?
jfngw
4 years ago
After the BBC has made so much capital about a single person at the Nike confrence being the centre of the Scottish outbreak (the MSM claim, unfounded of course). I fully expect them to be in Durham tracing all those that may have crossed Dominic Cummings path, after all someone must have brought the first case to Durham.
How many died because he wanted to see his mum on her birthday? Of course he claims he never saw her, did he post the kids and all there stuff through the letterbox.
ahundredthidiot
4 years ago
Golfnut
But they are not well presented……that’s what I highlighted.
Unless you point was that there is deception within presentation (and I am sure we all know that by now), but you didn’t say that
Mogabee
you must be on a different planet from the rest of us ‘as the pandemic rages’ – where exactly?? it has a kill rate of a bad flu. If a pandemic was raging there would be a ‘from’ COVID death in every family and street and there isn’t…….maybe you should be less hysterical, it’s good for your health! A couple of thousand deaths in a population of around 5.5 million, is while tragic, also negligible in the greater scale of things.
Many more will die from the measures – suicides and drug deaths are on the rise, more will perish once the Bill people see the Bill.
katherine hamilton
4 years ago
Re Cummings, it’s the “going out” that’s wrong. Not the reason, the with whom, to who, where or why. None of that is a defense.
He broke his own rules. Doesn’t matter though. He’ll be back at work Monday morning.
Maybe Starmer can explain it to Johnston on Wednesday.
jfngw
4 years ago
@Clapper57
Willie Rennie probably would have tweeted in his defence but apparently there is no link to paedophilia so saw no reason to become directly involved.
Clapper57
4 years ago
Does anyone on Twitter want to tweet Piers Morgan to advise him Ruth Davidson is back on the propaganda circuit and he should invite her on GMB on Monday ….he can get her (skewed) take on this….tell him would be good to get her opinion on current Tory defence position on Cummings as currently she has muted her opinion on her Twitter account…. See no EVEL, Hear no EVEL and Speak no EVEL Davidson….
Softly softly interviews from Lorraine ‘I’m really disappointed Ruth isn’t running for Tory leader’ Kelly do not cut it….
Breastplate
4 years ago
Mogabee,
Nobody, I repeat nobody is suggesting that vulnerable people should be forced to mix with the general population.
Anyone who needs to self isolate should continue to do so.
If you do not expose yourself to the virus you will not contract the virus.
You will not increase your chances of contracting the virus if your neighbour goes to work or if somebody from round the corner goes to the park.
You are either exposing yourself to the virus or not.
Self isolation works with a lockdown or without a lockdown, the whole fucking point of self Isolation is not to expose yourself to the virus.
And you sometimes fucking despair.
Ffs is all I can say to that.
Colin Alexander
4 years ago
Sturgeon should have sacked CMO Calderwood on the spot for misconduct. She didn’t. Sturgeon’s weakness, lack of leadership and poor decision making was yet again exposed.
(There’s more to leadership than good communication skills and a brass neck).
Boris Johnson should have sacked Special Adviser Dominic Cummings.
The Scottish British Imperials and the imperial BBC were right to highlight Calderwood should have been sacked.
Their silence or lame excuses for Cummings’ disgraceful conduct shows them for the hypocrites they are.
For them it’s not about what’s right or wrong. Not about people with great responsibility and privilege being held accountable. It’s not about trying to save people’s lives:
it’s all about maintaining the Imperial political domination by the British ruling Establishment.
Republicofscotland
4 years ago
(IS IT SAFE?)
Afraid not, it will never be safe until we dump this forced one-sided union forever.
Republicofscotland
4 years ago
The Cummings debacle just reinforces what we already know about the Westminster government, they do virtually what they want with impunity. Where as in Scotland Sturgeon falls over herself to play by Westminster’s rules on just about everything.
We’ll get absolutely nowhere fast on independence with Sturgeon at the helm, we need someone with courage, determination and a ruthless streak focused on independence and not on complying with Westminster’s rules.
callmedave
4 years ago
Big Auntie’s colonial web sites have the numbers but not her own number on BBC England web site darn Sarf
Scotland…….today…..16…….Total……2261…BBC
Wales……….today…..06…….Total……1260…BBC
N. Ireland…..today…..01…….Total…….505…BBC
England……..today…*175…….Total….*25534..*SUN
=======================================================
UK………….today…*351…….Total….*36393..*SUN
Oneliner
4 years ago
@ Katherine Hamilton
I wouldn’t hold my breath for a positive intervention from Keir Starmer. Isn’t he the guy who denied an inquiry into the killing of Jean Charles De Menezes?
Just another minor irritation for the Westminster Control Centre.
Republicofscotland
4 years ago
“NO new lessons will be uploaded to the BBC’s daily home-schooling service net week – because pupils in England and Wales are on holiday.”
Again as part of this forced union Scots are forever just an after thought, a nation seen as a colony to be exploited as seen fit by a foreign countries government. Weve kowtowed to it for 313 years one wonders how much longer we’ll remain on our knees.
Even the Palestinians have more courage in their convictions than we have and they’ve only been occupied since 1948, though the Ottomans and British occupied it as well. Hamish should really be a mouse not a lion to reflect just how meek we really are .
galamcennalath
4 years ago
Capella says:
drives 230 miles, shedding virus all the way
Indeed. Bottom line …. did anyone die or was left maimed for life by the Cummings family actions?
Truth is, we’ll never know. However given the high infectious level of Covid19 there is a distinct possibly someone did catch it from them. And, if you do catch it there is a definite chance It will kill you.
That’s the point. Wilfully taking risks with other innocent people’s lives is completely unacceptable. No excuses. No quarter.
jfngw
4 years ago
Davidson disappears again, apparently she does want to be left hold the baby,…. Oh hold on!
Joe
4 years ago
Totally OT. However this makes for a laugh (and secretly a shudder). Its an article from October in the US last year. The person who wrote this is a ‘Doctor’.
For me it represents the shockingly twisted and upside down thinking that is being foisted on honest people by talentless, bitter academics. In Scotland its current form is in the trans debate.
Please note how this is written very brazenly as ‘the way the incident can be viewed or interpreted’ being more important than the actual facts. This is a corner stone of the kind of thinking coming from academia now and is embraced, although still somewhat tentatively, by many of our political class. This is why I utterly hate them. This is why those who can’t quite put the pieces together yet will hate them too in the fullness of time. Welcome to cultural marxism where you, dear reader, are the oppressor by the original sin of your place of birth and your heritage.
Clapper57
4 years ago
@ jfngw @ 2.21pm
Yep jfngw, and Willie knows where “the link” to paedophilia is within his party…..but then, like the Memogate Carmichael scandal, Willie believes in ‘second chances’…..but ONLY for the RIGHT people within the RIGHT party that is….
Willie as per…subservient to HQ thus he is currently being RESERVED in his opinion…..HQ happy to DEVOLVE minor matters to Willie…as they recognise his true level of (non) ability…well on the political stage….he, like the Tories in Scotland, are the rearguard for the Unionist parties….happy to flank from the sidelines using…. carping… as a weapon….Lol
galamcennalath
4 years ago
I get really pissed off by anyone playing down the seriousness and threat of this pandemic.
Mortality in a population is 0.7% – 3% depending upon the demographics, general health state, and access to medical, especially intensive, care.
Covid19 is extremely infectious (much much more than flu). Antibody surveys in the UK, France and Spain have found about 5% in each country has had it. 10% in Madrid, 11% in Paris, 17% in London.
UK deaths of positively tested people is 37k, however Covid19 appeared on a lot more death certs who were never tested. Then there are excess deaths over last 5 years average. Some estimates put the real death toll at 60-70k.
The above three things – mortality, infections, and deaths – are entirely consistent. They present a picture far worse than the official UK numbers suggest, of course. The UK is probably the worst hit (by population size) on the planet.
Here’s the crunch though – if there had been no lockdown the number of infections could have been ten times greater, however the deaths could have been worse than ten times because most sick people couldn’t have accessed any healthcare.
We’ve had a close shave! And it ain’t over yet.
Joe
4 years ago
@galamcennalath
Im sorry, you didn’t mention the novel you were reading this in?
Golfnut
4 years ago
@ahundrethidiot.
What you mean is that figures were wrong, I wouldn’t argue the toss either way. Whether one or both presentations were dishonest is surely a subjective opinion and part of the decision making process each listener/ reader would decide on considering the merits of each presentation. Neither we’re bad presentations, both were believable and that is what causes the dilemma for the reader/listener.
CameronB Brodie
4 years ago
I think it’s time for some “liberation psychology”. Here’s a video lecture.
Dear Joe, try this. link to euromomo.eu
Just go to graphs then scroll down to the UK.
These are graphs of actual excess deaths per head of population in Scotland England etc.
Note that England has the highest rating in the whole of Europe.
I know not whether it is the highest in the world.
Graeme
4 years ago
robertknight says:
23 May, 2020 at 1:06 pm
Blackford on the telly – bumbling oaf spouting faux outrage as though NS handled the Calderwood carry on with any degree of competence.
I’ll never believe another word that falls from that man’s lips…
“We will not allow Scotland to be dragged…” Blah blah blah.
Donkey!
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Couldn’t agree more Robert I’m not so much angry at his empty words I’m more angry at the fact I believed him
Ian Brotherhood
4 years ago
For those who recently signed up for Gab as a potential alternative to an increasingly toxic Twitter, @Ceannairc has been busy posting links, so please pop along and check your follower numbers now that it’s back up and running after lengthy ‘maintenance’.
Anyone else believe Cummings never had the virus but just wanted to visit his mother on her birthday, did he get tested, was it positive.
Famous15
4 years ago
All these toilets between London and all these service stations! How many infected?
#durhamgate!
Breastplate
4 years ago
Scot Finlayson,
That is incorrect.
The death rate is not 6%, it is nowhere near.
You are excluding all the people who don’t know they’ve had it or don’t need to seek treatment.
As an example;
Sweden, believed to be extreme in it’s slack lockdown, according to reports 20% to 30% of the population have or have had the virus.
We’ll take the lower percentage of 20% which is 2,000,000.
People that have died in Sweden from the virus is about 4000.
So according to the information to hand the mortality rate in Sweden is therefore 0.2%.
My apologies if that figure isn’t scary enough for some people.
Cuilean
4 years ago
My take on this thought provoking scene:
Is it safe (to go for independence) or will we choose to be forever in lockdown (i.e in the United Kingdom)?
Breastplate
4 years ago
Using the same information the mortality rate in Sweden for under 50s is less than 0.005%
Pete
4 years ago
Galamcenalath
Sorry, my maths make the death rate at around 0.05%
How do you get your figures?
CameronB Brodie
4 years ago
Breastplate
Swedish cultural psychology is different to ours, so you’re likely to be adding to your risk by read too much into statistical comparisons.
Considerations relating to social distancing measures in response to COVID-19 – second update
23 March 2020 link to ecdc.europa.eu
Breastplate
4 years ago
CBB,
I’m not making any comparisons, I’m merely doing the maths with the information we have,
When that information changes, so too will the maths.
shug
4 years ago
Dominic Cummings and his wife catch the virus
They travel to Durham with their child
Dominic’s wife then writes several articles about life in lock down in London with no mention of them travelling to Durham.
Result
BBC in full he was protecting his child mode, it was advice, he did not do anything anyone else would not do
What a joke – but it is the BBC we are talking about
Effijy
4 years ago
Just received a WhatsApp showing 2 Sets of front
Pages for the Sun and the telegraph.
The first 2 front page headlines were all about England’s Prof Lockdown
Have to resign as he travelled during curfew to meet his lady on the side.
The same 2 papers have front page headlines without any trace of a Dom
Cummings breaking curfew and showing contempt for the lives of others.
Mrs. Murrell tried to hold on to her CMO, so nobody can blame the Tory party for doing the same thing, least of all Blackford.
Cummings HAS to go though. Might be good if he took Blackford with him.
Republicofscotland
4 years ago
Here we go again another Saturday evening and another old English football match on Scottish TV, this time Arsenal v Liverpool.
STV are a fucking disgrace they have been for years now, pumping out English content relentlessly in Scotland. Their latest bullshit trick is advertising old Take the High Road episodes on its shitty player instead of broadcasting Scottish made programmes.
Even Catalonia has its own channels with content from the region. But Scots meekly, bar the odd few who rail against it, sit back and take it, and have done so for decades.
Joe
From my perspective, you’re either ignorant or malicious in intent.
A Road-map to Surviving Stay-at-home, one day at a time in a pandemic: A Self-Determination Theory approach to coping with the invisible enemy, COVID — 19/New CoronaVirus link to medium.com
Joe
4 years ago
@CameronB Brodie
That’s the 2nd shot at the man and not his argument.
There you go, that’s your monthly quota of replies from me. Don’t get greedy. Go on, you’ll have critical theory to study regarding the ethical competence of post waffle enfranchisement in a realist dialectic semi-carbuncle.
CameronB Brodie
4 years ago
Joe
You’re not bad at this game, I’ll give you that. I’ve been living this way of thinking for some time now, so you’re onto plumbs we me.
A bit of perspective when comparing the Spanish Flu with COVID-19, remember that the health services worldwide were puny in relation to today. Doctors then did not have the same level of scientific knowledge either. And ventilators were not exactly commonplace.
This is aimed at the politicians of all parties everywhere when, after things calm down a bit, they try and take credit for not having a similar death toll to the Spanish Flu.
Republicofscotland
4 years ago
That treacherous bastard Jackson Carlaw and his Westminster compliant MSPs who quickly came down on Catherine Calderwood Scotlands Chief Medical Officer have been silent on their own party’s Dominic Cummings breaking the lockdown rules.
Not a peep no mouthing off from Davidson or Fraser or Tomkins or that wee incoherent naff, and list MSP from Easterhouse, who I’ve forgotten her names such is her charisma at Holyrood or on the unionist media.
Once again Scotlands MSPs voted in by residents of Scotland stay stum to protect the government party of a foreign country. Only in Scotland.
This country Scotland is so far down the rabbit hole, that even Lewis Carroll would be turning in his grave wondering who on Earth could begin I write a way out of it for Scotland.
And I tell you another thing whilst I’m having my wee rant, that snivelling wee runt, and false accuser, on Twitter (remember that?) Susan Calman is never off the bloody unionist telly with her BoS adverts, in which she has the bloody cheek to tell she knows about Scots.
This wee pile o shite has been well rewarded by the union on tv shows, radio, and adverts for selling her country out, she knows SFA about Scots that one.
Joe
4 years ago
‘Hydroxychloroquine was used in Shanghai as the first line of treatment,” said Arguedas.’
Would an easily obtained and cheap drug go against the interests of certain groups? How much social control would you need then? How much profit would be missed? People would not need government and international institutions telling them what to do.
Ahundredthidiot
4 years ago
louder with crowder has done a william wallace sketch on youtube about the state we are in here in Scotland
quite funny…..and so it should be, our SNP govt is a laughing stock around the world now.
Callmedave @6.55pm Sorry Dave, I try not to watch that token tv channel, oh and after the footy we have Mrs Brown the Movie, Queen Vicky and her wee pet Scot played by Billy Connolly, who if I recall, correctly wasnt too keen on independence in 2014.
MaggieC
4 years ago
Grouse Beater @ 12.10 pm
Thank you for your link to your blog post regards Churchill , An interesting read and just now on Channel 4 there’s a programme re Dunkirk and next on at 8.20pm there’s a programme called Forgotten Heroes and it’s about the 51st Highland Division at Dunkirk , should be interesting to watch .
jfngw
4 years ago
Dominic Cummings caught breaking lockdown second time to visit his parents according to the Sunday Mirror.
This after Transport secretary at briefing stated he had gone to Durham and isolated. But he was later seen after returning to London back in Durham at a later date.
Joe
4 years ago
@Ahundredthidiot
I second that. Hysterically funny!
jfngw
4 years ago
As an addition to the above Mirror story, I’m now awaiting the official Kuenssberg press release with the government position.
dakk
4 years ago
@Joe says:
23 May, 2020 at 7:36 pm
‘Hydroxychloroquine was used in Shanghai as the first line of treatment,” said Arguedas.’
Even the BBC have rumbled that one of many product placements going on.
Well thank god for the BBC eh? Its always good to have a solid honest institution to rely on.
Republicofscotland
4 years ago
Maggie C.
The long and the short of it, Churchill sold out the 51st Highlanders but he blamed it on the French. Like General Wolfe, said and Churchill thought, Highlanders falling in battle is seen by Westminster as no great loss. Haig a Scot and British puppet sent thousands of Scots to their deaths at the Somme.
Haven’t you heard we Scots are expendable.
The National newspapers has half page devoted to it today.
Katie
4 years ago
Off thread guys… but happy for thought!… If the whole of the UK switched off TV for a fortnight… especially boycotting MSM being Sky and BBC news in particular, would the virus just disappear and life return to normality (and not the new normal whar ever that will be!!) ?
dakk
4 years ago
@joe
It’s on Sky, cnn, guardian, the lot I’m afraid.
There’s been a lot of free advertising going on from early on with covid.
The most prominent UK one being the astra zeneca Cambridge uni ‘vaccine’.
Many medics say it’s a cardio vascular issue and treating it with related therapy.
Joe
4 years ago
@Dakk
‘It’s on Sky, cnn, guardian, the lot I’m afraid.’
Yes. I agree. It is.
Clapper57
4 years ago
Journalist from the Guardian newspaper tweeted :
“One of the many unanswered questions about the Cummings affair: if it was all so obviously above-board and fine, why did No 10 refuse to comment on it for almost seven weeks? We first asked them about it on 5 April”.
I mean the Tories in Scotland have been rabidly uber vocal on TRANSPARENCY being vital…keeping the public informed….no cover ups….untenable positions of ministers in the Scottish govt…..yada yada…..indeed.
I see they have all declared a vow of silence on Twitter today….shoe on the other foot now……no doubt concocting a collective bot like spin response to give to their pals in the compliant media….
Or rather asking their pals in the media if they are sitting on a #SNPBAD story and perhaps releasing it now…..timing is EVERYTHING..even if story is flimsy and lacking real substance or truth…anything to deflect attention away……
‘Nicola Sturgeon trying to contact Aliens to invade England’….
“Take me to your leader….not the figurehead one in No 10….his adviser The Dom…. the REAL leader”.
‘Annie Wells abducted by Aliens….brought back pronto….as no intelligent life was found……Sturgeon tricked aliens into believing that both ‘life’ and ‘intelligence’ was present in Ms Wells brain cell’……
“and she would have got away with too if hadn’t been for those pesky list votes…i.e. the ones that let in dead weights with one brain cell into Holyrood as an MSP”…..said Head Alien Major Tom Tom….previously a Captain of the Fleet…street.
5,000,000 people have tested positive for the virus,
300,000 have died,
that means 6% of those known to have the virus have died.
Clapper57
4 years ago
Just seen a really funny thing on Mr Malky Twitter account…cannot add link but please watch…
Tweet from TheIanDuncanSmiths…video called CUMMA MIA..really really funny.
callmedave
4 years ago
The National:
FRESH witness reports put Dominic Cummings in Durham for a second trip during lockdown, days after being filmed in London having recovered from coronavirus.
Pressure had already been mounting on Boris Johnson to sack his chief aide after it emerged he had travelled 260 miles to his parents’ home during lockdown while displaying coronavirus symptoms.
So do you think it is big pharma product placement, or it actually works as Covid therapy?
Pete
4 years ago
Scott Finlayson
In terms of total population the death rate is minuscule.What is the death rate of those who get cancer?
Quite high, I would guess.
What’s your point?
jfngw
4 years ago
Pete
Cancer is not a virus, you don’t catch it, it’s not contagious.
Breastplate
4 years ago
Scot Finlayson,
Yes, that is now correct.
jfngw
4 years ago
@Scot Finlayson
Beware some are probably quoting the CMR rather than the IMR, it gives a lower number because you are including those that have never been infected.
Breastplate
4 years ago
Although Scot Finlayson,
Probably better to replace known with confirmed
Breastplate
4 years ago
Jfngw,
It seemed to me that Scot Finlayson was implying that everyone who contracted the virus had a 6% chance of death. That was certainly what I inferred,
What do you think?
CameronB Brodie
4 years ago
Who exactlyy are all these unqualified voices urging a relaxation of lock-down?
Full text.
Human needs in COVID-19 isolation
Abstract
To reduce the spread of COVID-19, the World Health Organization and the majority of governments have recommended that the entire human population should ‘stay-at-home’. A significant proportion of the population live alone or are vulnerable to mental health problems yet, in the vast majority of cases, individuals in social isolation have no access to mental healthcare.
The only resource is people themselves using self-help, self-medication and self-care. During prolonged COVID-19 isolation, an in-built system of homeostasis can help rebalance activity, thought and feeling. Increased physical activity enables a reset of physical and mental well-being. During periods of lockdown, it is recommended that exercise should be as vigorously promoted as social distancing itself.
I wasn’t sure what you were talking about in your first reply because you hadn’t flagged who you were responding to, there are a lot of numbers flying around here.
But I did work out the death share of under 50’s in Sweden, which according to statistia data (22nd May) is 0.18% of confirmed cases. This is not the Infection Mortality Rate as there is nowhere I can find how many under 50’s have been infected, just the total of infected. It doesn’t look like anyone is gathering the infection rate by age (I can’t find them anyway), it could be higher or lower than the 0.18% depending on the spread of the infection across age groups. I could make a guess by the demographics of the country but then that’s me just making up numbers.
Breastplate
4 years ago
Jfngw,
My point to Scot Finlayson was that if we are only going to use confirmed cases to find mortality rates as you have now just done then the situation regarding the virus will look much bleaker and more frightening than it actually is.
Would you not agree?
Clapper57
4 years ago
@ MaggieC @ 9.15pm
Many Thanks…I hope you are well.
Hope you enjoyed it….I did…..need some respite…desperately.
Have a good evening (what’s left of it)…have a chilled and good day tomorrow.
jfngw
4 years ago
@Brestplate
I should have added the death share of over 50’s (Sweden) who have had the virus is 11.65% (11.3% if you make it over 60’s), that makes about 88% recovered.
To be honest I don’t believe we will ever have the exact numbers for deaths or infected so working these out to decimal places is actually a waste of time.
jfngw
4 years ago
@Breastplate
I made the last reply before I read your latest so it is not an answer to that comment.
Yes I agree without knowing the actual infection totals the number will be higher, I don’t know how you get round that though. The worldometer site has good bit of research in New York where they reckon the infection rate is 10 times the confirmed detected rate. That seems reasonable as it would give Scotland a fatality rate of about 1.4% which is what they worked out in NY.
Final comment on these numbers. It’s clear to keep this number down we need to stop those over 60 or 70 catching it. The more of them that catch it the higher the mortality number will be.
The problem here is it seems near impossible to protect them if there is a lot of cases in the community. Sweden tried this with care homes but there are just too many vectors for its entry. On paper it looks easy but I suspect it will fail.
Rm
4 years ago
I wonder if the Conservative party are wanting out, it’s funny how the cummings story has just come out after a fair length of time, whatever party is in power in england it’s going to be hard going to keep things going down there, the Conservative party would maybe prefer the Labour Party in for a few years until things settle down, perfect opportunity for Scotland to go its own way, rules for some not for others, hard to see if things will ever change.
dakk
4 years ago
‘the Conservative party would maybe prefer the Labour Party in for a few years until things settle down,’
And this time it is they who leave a note on the chancellors desk saying
‘sorry, we’ve spent all the money’
And this time, it will be the understatemt of the century.
Hamerdoon
4 years ago
jfngw says:
23 May, 2020 at 8:48 pm
Pete
Cancer is not a virus, you don’t catch it, it’s not contagious
Did anyone believe a Boris Johnson government would be any better than this, we expected a disaster, he has surpassed himself in our expectations. He is the exemplar of disastrous government surrounded by an equally incompetent cabinet.
dakk
4 years ago
jfngw
23 May, 2020 at 10:31 pm
Did anyone believe a Boris Johnson government would be any better than this,
I wouldn’t believe any british government would be any than this to be honest.
Ian Brotherhood
4 years ago
@jnfgw, dakk –
Seems like a lifetime ago now, but even before Boris was installed (could anyone confidently name the month now?) there were bold claims that he would be the shortest-serving PM in British history.
The fact that he’s still there has nothing to do with him – it’s all about the power of the State, keeping him there for as long as required/possible. To the real power brokers he’s nowt but a useful – and entirely disposable – narcissist who’s already been ‘paid’ with achievement of the highest office in The Land. And he knows it. That’s why he doesn’t give a fuck and is spending as much time as possible on holiday/’seriously ill’.
mike cassidy
4 years ago
Jackson Carlaw has been trolled by Richard Leonard over Cummingsgate.
If this doesn’t move people to independence what possibly will.
If it doesn’t happen soon I feel it’s over for me in my lifetime. I’m 66 in July, at best that’s probably 14 years (less if I follow my dad’s example).
Ian Brotherhood
4 years ago
@jnfgw –
Don’t lose heart mister – you must be about the same age as Alex Salmond, and look how much we’re still expecting of him!
😉
Beaker
4 years ago
@Rm says:
23 May, 2020 at 10:12 pm
“I wonder if the Conservative party are wanting out”
Could be. James Herbert’s book “Lair”, sequel to “The Rats” has a narrative with the opposition “rubbing their hands in glee” as they had been blamed for the original attacks. Sounds familiar.
And if there is any truth regarding a second trip by Cummings then he will have painted Boris into a corner.
Millennium
4 years ago
You can just see Boris now, phoning about the Royals to see if any of them are ready to get married this week, or is there a Royal sprat ready for dropping
If not, is there any WW2 anniversary coming up, so he can wheel Lizzie out to speak to the gullable masses.
Anything but Cummings,,, it’s destroying his Image.
Rot in hell ya english prick
jfngw
4 years ago
@Millenium
Yep, if this goes on the may have get Prince Andrew onboard.
dakk
4 years ago
@Ian B
‘That’s why he doesn’t give a fuck and is spending as much time as possible on holiday/’seriously ill’.’
And not even having to try pretend otherwise.
Famous15
4 years ago
Listening to Jim Callaghan on the 1979 election result it is clear that Scotland’s birthright was stolen by Maggie Thatcher.
North Sea oil was as big for Scotland as it was for Norway but we allowed Thatcher to steal our future.
Scotland wake up!
Millennium
4 years ago
As mentioned above,,,I hope those Indy fence sitters come down on the side of sanity, Justice and logic and become rabid Nationalists.
Boris is our ticket to Independence, so he needs to be kept there for as long as possible, but as for Cummings, that guy is a physicopathic lunatic and will probably need taken out of No10 in a straight jacket.
Aye! Ricky Leopard getting top trolling marks for his Carlaw tweet
I’ve been listening on Radio 5 live to the ‘Cummings not goings’ thing it’s been ding-dong but a lot of Tory callers trying to defend it no matter what.
Sleepless night for Boris. The nation awaits his decision I’ll bet a little bit of him would like to ditch him but Cummings knows where & who in all things nefarious in the last wee while.
A close call! 🙂
cirsium
4 years ago
@jnfgw, 9.56
“The problem here is it seems near impossible to protect them if there is a lot of cases in the community.”
It’s difficult but not impossible. Prophylactics are needed. In the first place, people should have been advised to take Vitamin C, Vitamin D and zinc to maintain their immune system. Anyone can still do this. In the second place, GPs should have been advised about the use of hydroxychloroquine + zinc sulphate as a prophylactic for people in the high-risk groups. Hopefully, as more is learned from the countries which are using this, it will become a common practice here.
Attractive picture, Chris. Makes me want to go for a hill walk. “Is it safe?”. Yes, it is.
jfngw
4 years ago
@Capella
Quite a difference to VE bank holiday when the deaths here were 25,000 (equivalent to 130,000 in the US) our papers had ‘Let’s Party’ on the front page.
carjamtic
4 years ago
So they’re humanitarians now
Locked in their white cliff-dwellings
Encased in their repellent,guano,bat-free and guilt free
Grey over SW1 the clouds piled up
Dragged their rain through the cemetery trees
The gates shone cold
As the blonde shilput dog grimly fucks some unalert poodles,uncontrolled
Under the darkness of a twisted pram
A cat’s eyes glitter
National identity is akin to a hand of cards
That is acquired, shuffled
And pragmatically presented to others when thought propitious
Despite our countdown some were loath to go
We sighed, climbed in, locked
If it was love they felt, would it not keep and travel, where we travelled ?
#EdwinMorgan
Joe
4 years ago
@dakk
Hydroxychloroquine is not restricted for manufacture. It is not protected by patent. To make real money big pharma needs a patented product.
Joe
4 years ago
More accurately its a generic drug that has patented products manufactured from it.
CameronB Brodie
4 years ago
Joe
Can I ask what your training is to qualify you as competent to advise on covid-19 treatment?
Clinical efficacy of hydroxychloroquine in patients with covid-19 pneumonia who require oxygen: observational comparative study using routine care data
Conclusions
Hydroxychloroquine has received worldwide attention as a potential treatment for covid-19 because of positive results from small studies. However, the results of this study do not support its use in patients admitted to hospital with covid-19 who require oxygen.
Joe appears to be quite happy to endanger the safety of others, in order to punt his political outlook.
Research round-up: Hydroxychloroquine and COVID-19
medwireNews: An increasing number of studies provide evidence against the use of hydroxychloroquine for the treatment of COVID-19, with some results even suggesting it could be harmful; this report rounds up some of the most recent research and recommendations on hydroxychloroquine and COVID-19.
No evidence of a protective effect on mortality risk
Two observational studies from New York, USA, suggest no impact of hydroxychloroquine use on mortality risk among hospitalized patients with COVID-19….
that means the UK death rate is 14% of those confirmed with virus,
over double the world average.
Socrates MacSporran
4 years ago
OMG – I didn’t ever think Rheinhart Leotard had it in him. However, just one wee observation on his brilliant trolling of Jackass Carlot – he really should have written: ” U ok Hun?”
jfngw
4 years ago
There’s no question a Tory will see the opportunity in any situation to feather their own nest, this pandemic is no exception.
I found this in the Grouse Beater article/blog regarding Winston Churchill, I hope he doesn’t mind the quote as he wasn’t too happy with someone else quoting him in a blog but i think this highlights it better than I can.
No one asked how he had entered the war bankrupt and in massive debt, but ended it with the equivalent of £2 million in his bank account.
Old Pete
4 years ago
60,000+ deaths more than normally expected over virus period in the UK.
30,000+ are directly down to the incompetent English Tory government. Boris Johnson and Dominic Cummings have blood on their hands, they need to go and now.
Golfnut
4 years ago
@ Socrates MacSporran.
Not sure that leotard did this off his own back, more likely emboldened if not prodded by HQ wanting an enquiry( note, not sacked ) into Cummings.
Famous15
4 years ago
To borrow a phrase from Stu,the only prophylactic the ”experts” here should advise is the one their father should have used.
When I read so much mischievous nonsense here I cannot fail to conclude that the Unionists are getting desperate and are spewing discord and confusion.
Independence is inevitable but please hurry up,I am not getting any younger.
Al Dossary
4 years ago
@Scot Finlayson,
We all know that not a single figure coming out of the UK can be trusted. 36k dead, though the true figure could easily be 60k. As to the number infected, the total including those who have not been tested could realistically be close to 1 million based on the mortalities that have occurred.
Meanwhile I’m on day 2 of a 4 day curfew in the Middle East. We have been on a 5pm – 9am curfew for the last month with all gatherings of >5 outlawed – during Ramadan and now Idh. Idh which is basically THE biggest event in the Muslim calender year.
I wonder what would happen in UK were Bojo to tell people they couldn’t visit family on Christmas day.
Sinky
4 years ago
John Boothman rehashing old news to attack SNP in Sunday Times.
John Boothman, married to Labour MSP, was head of BBC Scotland news and current affairs during 2014 Referendum and lost tribunal case after bullying the daughter of Margo MacDonald.
Could it be that you are coming round to the more common view that Sturgeon IS dragging her heels when it comes to delivering Independence?
Like Capella, you think the sun shines out of Sturgeon’s arse, but you are now admitting that people like me have been right all along and Sturgeon is an uninterested gradualist who sees Independence is an interruption to her Gravy Train.
ahundredthidiot
4 years ago
Is it safe?
Yes & No – This virus is deadly to the weak, the old and the ill and they should continue to isolate for a wee while yet while getting as much fresh air and sunlight as is possible – for everyone else it is the scam of the Century. This is a flu, no more, no less. I have come to the conclusion that there is no point getting sucked into the ‘science’ as it achieves nothing – people have chosen their side by now, so the debate, for me, is over.
The next phase in the scam is face masks (I suspect trades unions will be one of the vehicles for this), then mandatory vaccinations – of course, the fascists on here will be loving that, I bet they just cant wait to see people dragged from their homes and injected with Bill Gates new formula for ‘their safety’ (Bill Gates, btw, a man on record championing population reduction and blood on is hands in the form of child deaths in India and Africa while funding SAGE and Imperial College idiots like Neil Ferguson – little wonder then that an Italian Politician stood up in Parliament and demanded the arrest of the criminal Gates)
There is no stopping this now. Peaceful protest will have the same effect it had on the Iraq War – zero.
Many years form now, when your kids can’t have kids, remember this moment and the part you played.
There is only one hope and that is the Yanks, who despite decades of relentless pressure, managed to keep a hold of their weapons.
And if you think I’m nuts, so is swimming around, frog like, in a pot that is slowly being boiled.
Col.Blimp IV
4 years ago
It seems that Cummings is claiming to have made extensive enquiries as to whether it was safe or not, before embarking on his journey.
The SNP government have to demand that the conservative msps sitting in Holyrood demand the resignation of cummings, they were quick to demand the resignation of Calderwood, if the Conservative party don’t do it Scotland should dissolve the Union go on our own again, another P- – -k who should resign is Boredom Brewer what an absolutely useless unionist Pratt.
jfngw
4 years ago
If the UK gov are unwilling to admit the real level of covid deaths when there are so many excess deaths, how can we possibly trust them with the infection level now. They have lifted lockdown and any increase will be seen as a mistake, expect some rewriting of the rules as per the Cummings ordeal to vindicate any outcome.
The Tories in Scotland are apparently in twitter lockdown, no tweets for over a day from any of them. Possible JC is just doing an artwork inventory, you’ve got to keep an eye on the goods.
Beaker
4 years ago
@Millennium says:
24 May, 2020 at 8:47 am
twathater 3.26am
“Dens of Iniquity that are nothing more than a cover for… mass orgies…”
Where do I sign up?
CameronB Brodie
4 years ago
ahundredthidiot
You’re another one who appears keen to endanger the public in order to punt your personal politics. Medical science and practice takes time to develop, so we need to rely on ethics and practical reason to guide us through uncertainty. That means we need the “precautionary principle” like never before.
Evidence Based Management Guideline for the COVID-19 Pandemic – Review article link to ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Socrates MacSporran
4 years ago
Fiona Hyslop snapped back a few times at Brewer this morning. He didn’t like it one little bit. I feared, once or twice,he was about to spit the dummy.
Famous15
4 years ago
@millenium,hundredidiots et al. I am tempted to say “Yawn”. BUt you ,of course many of you have already adopted that slogan.
BTW Millenium do not put words into my mouth as that is unhealthy.
All persons of wit and wisdom in Scotland, please hurry up in gaining independence.
You know it makes sense.
jfngw
4 years ago
I presume everyone in England who was fined for breaking lockdown by having someone over now can claim the money back as long as they were dancing to an ABBA song at some point, possibly ‘One of Us’ and considered it ‘safeguarding’ their mental health.
Millennium
4 years ago
Famous15. 10.34am
It’s punters like you, with as much backbone as a wet paper bag, that are holding up Independence, with your blind support for the utterly useless Sturgeon.
So don’t start passing the buck onto people who can see through the Sturgeon Strategy of, one step forward, three back.
Effijy
4 years ago
Just watched Tory Grant Shaps on the main propaganda channel
Attempt to tell the public that we are too dumb to understand the lockdown
Directives and our understanding of English words are wrong and the whole
Oxford dictionary will now need to be rewritten to get Dom Cummings off.
FFS
ahundredthidiot
4 years ago
Famous15
spoiler alert – Scotland will never see Her Independence, so don’t wait up.
We had our chance in 2014, we blew it. It still sticks in my craw that the postal vote was very likely rigged and enough to swing it, but hey ho, the Brits were just smarter than us.
The open goal of the last 3 years has not been taken – there is no desire within the current SNP for Independence, NS has betrayed us all.
Meanwhile, Scotland now has one of the longest lockdowns in Europe – and it isn’t being lifted on Thursday, nor the Thursday after that, nor the one after that.
The result will be this – SNP vote will tumble – if people like me will no longer vote for them (I have voted for no other Party in nearly 40 years of voting and cancelled my/our memberships before Xmas) what chance have they got? – None.
Unless a new Party makes a meteoric rise, it’s over, it’s all over. Make your peace with it by accepting it (the final and most rewarding stage of dealing with Loss being acceptance).
I think you will find the biggest “Yawn” will come after we hear you utter those words “we must trust in Nicola”
Famous15,,,,, another Flat Earther and Sturgeon apologist.
Sinky
4 years ago
Richard Leonard bumping his gums about care home transfers from hospitals in March.
All four governments in UK, INCLUDING LABOUR IN WALES, were spooked by UK medical predictions that their would be 250,000 hospital cases and took the callous /difficult decision to free up hospital spaces and elderly patients who were deemed fit enough ( but not tested as throughout UK there was insufficient capacity) were discharged back to community o care homes as appropriate.
Labour and Tories should stop playing politics over what was an ethical issue facing public health officials in all four parts of the UK. Easy to be wise in hindsight.
Had we been independent rather than being in thrall to London being the font of all knowledge we could have followed Ireland’s example and saved 2000 deaths by locking down earlier but we didn’t have the financial powers to compensate workers and businesses.
Famous15
4 years ago
@Millenium I can safely say that my backbone was strongly and effectively used in the cause of independence long before you were born.
Like everyone I have some doubts about the SNP but as yet no hard facts. I resigned from the SNP some time ago because they sacrificed future employment to pacify the Greens and I see other issues slipping to make for a quiet life.
Independence is the normal and natural state for a country and not subservience to witless clowns in a neighbouring country.
Millennium
4 years ago
Famous15
When Cameron Brodie,,the site loony,,,starts backing you up, then that is when you know you are Rubber Ducked.
I think you have already been pointed towards joining the LibDems website,,,I would give it a go if I were you, it’s more suited to your types.
And spouse
4 years ago
“It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change.”
– Charles Darwin
Clapper57
4 years ago
So we had the Scottish Tories up in arms about the Nike story…
Well unfortunately timing is everything in the revelation of shocking stories and with this Cummings scandal there is a story in The Times that is not being given the attention it should….
A story that far diminishes the contrived faux outrage being promoted by Tories in Scotland and their undercover Tory Ian Murray…..who jointly pushed the Nike Conference story.
Piers Morgan tweeted the following :
“The Sunday Times #Insight investigation into how Boris Johnson’s dithering on lockdown cost 1000s of lives is utterly devastating. If you’ve been blindly supporting him & the Govt during this crisis, read this article & then decide if you still want to. It’s shocking”.
The story documents how BorisJohnson was too slow with taking coronavirus seriously that led to 1.5 million people being infected by the time of lockdown. Far MORE than any other country.
Perhaps this additional revelation should keep the Scottish Tory politicians in Twitter lockdown for an even more extended period…giving time to reflect on their hypocrisy and undeserved loyalty to a leader most of them didn’t vote for in the Tory leadership election and don’t even like !
Yet now they all kneel at the altar of Boris….and just like Brexit they cast aside previous supposed strong positions to adapt to whatever HQ demands…..and Ruth Davidson is one of the worst culprits….given credit by the media for what?…..denying everything that she previously promoted as right just to uphold unity in the Tory party…..and Jackson Carlaw should look at Tory supporters in Scotland and UK if he wants to see a “cult” following.
No more should we have to listen to the calculated outrage from Jackson Carlaw, Ruth Davidson and their useless elected (undeservedly) MP’s when THEIR party are clearly incompetent and blatantly corrupt ……Tory uber alles irrespective of all the stories exposing their incompetence and deception to benefit Tory donors and the Tory party over the people they are supposed to support and protect.
If Brexit, constant cover ups, incompetence and mismanagement does not end the Union then one wonders WTF will it take before some of those currently living in Scotland finally say enough is enough !
ps. Gordon Brewer and Politics Scotland fooled no one today with the Elephant in the Room programme….a classic look over here not over there addition of their damage limitation Unionist exercise ….par for the course with the BBC closing ranks with a party of the Union……so transparent in the omission of THE story of the day that it insulted the Scots viewers intelligence……as per
Famous15
4 years ago
Millenium what nonsense now.You are not even rational. Your get the man not the ball sort of way is not clever.
However I do not think your mission needs cleverness does it? Nudge,nudge,wink,wink.
Millennium
4 years ago
Famous15
If you die before seeing an independent Scotland, then blame no one else other than Nicola Sturgeon,,,,,and of course yourself, for blindly supporting her “not in my lifetime” approach towards Scottish Independence.
Famous15
4 years ago
Millenium you are fixated with Nicola Sturgeon. I am not.
I see independence as a necessity. I do not know or care what you see or desire as I suspect we are on different planets or at least have different goals.
CameronB Brodie
4 years ago
“When Cameron Brodie,,the site loony,,,starts backing you up, then that is when you know you are Rubber Ducked.”
Millennium
Your yoon persona couldn’t hide for long, and neither could your personal clown-shoes. 😉
Famous15
I have probably done more in a day to than you have in your lifetime in our fight for Independence
Do you believe Nicola Sturgeon is the person who will lead us to Independence???
Millennium
4 years ago
FFS
Here we go again.
“You’re no a Sturgeon supporter, so you MUST be a Yoon”
Geez fuckin peace
Fuckin hell,,,getting stalked by Famous15 and Cam B first thing on a Sunday morning,,,who left the cell doors open and let these two beauties roam the streets unattended???
CameronB Brodie
4 years ago
Here’s one for folk with a bit of time on their hands, and a need to spot political fakes.
Reasoning Independently of Prior Belief and Individual Differences in Actively Open-Minded Thinking link to keithstanovich.com
Famous15
4 years ago
Nuff said, i think!
Millennium
4 years ago
Sturgeon has caused this split in the Yes Movement, all done by design, and it’s up to everyone of us, individually, whether to follow her lead, or choose a more direct path to Independence with new leadership.
I’m all for the latter.
IMO Sturgeon is a dud, a damp squib.
In other words,,,, useless.
Dogbiscuit
4 years ago
CBB takes Mediawirenews as Gospel
John Gowrie
4 years ago
I live in the countryside on an island, I want to get off it and go to my hometown Glasgow more than anything, all this open space on the island is great but it’s just an open prison if you can’t get off it.
Republicofscotland
4 years ago
So Sarah Smith, you know the seething treacherous unionist, who couldn’t contain her disappointment that Alex Salmond wasn’t locked up for good can use the word honourable as in the Honourable Sarah Smith because her mother is a baroness. Her mother is Baroness of Gilmorehill.
In my opinion there’s nothing remotely honourable about Smith the junior, unless of course you take into account her selling out Scotland at the behest of a foreign nation a nation that sees her as honourable in doing so.
The English media which we are if not forced to watch, then subjected to is jam packed with Judas Scots that are only too willing to put down Scotland and Scots to keep on receiving their tainted gold coins from a foreign nation that has drained Scotland of its wealth and used its people as cannon fodder in its unjust wars for centuries.
“Do you believe Nicola Sturgeon is the person who will lead us to Independence?”
Famous15
4 years ago
Millenium one more thought. We have all seen that Glaswegian hero in a three lions tap shouting “Stick yer independence up yer arse”
Well,like you he thinks he is doing wonders for Unionism.Really working his socks off for his cause.
Just think about it!
jfngw
4 years ago
I remember going to see ‘Rollerball’ in 1975, the IMBD storyline description is.
In a futuristic society where corporations have replaced countries, the violent game of Rollerball is used to control the populace by demonstrating the futility of individuality
This is the dream of those like Dominic Cummings, countries are irrelevant, it’s ownership that matters. Whilst we don’t have Rollerball we have plenty of other mindless distractions like Eastenders and Olympics.
Dogbiscuit
4 years ago
Bogus journalists hitting the roof when White House Press Secretary announced re-opening of places of worship. Media up to no good. I’m not the religious type but I do see that as good news. All the hard line punish the heretic types here are secretly embarrassed by their blue funk. Steve Crowders Wallace sketch is sadly hilariously spot on.Poor Patrick he must be an SNP semen repository.
CameronB Brodie
4 years ago
I’m not an agent provocateur, nor cognitively dogmatic. I am critical of the both the SNP and the Scottish government though, as neither supports international human rights law. This is an inescapable consequence of viewing the world through the pathology of British constitutional law, and can be described in two words, LEGAL PAROCHIALISM.
When self-perceptions of expertise increase closed-minded cognition: The earned dogmatism effect
ABSTRACT
Although cultural values generally prescribe open-mindedness, open-minded cognition systematically varies across individuals and situations. According to the Earned Dogmatism Hypothesis, social norms dictate that experts are entitled to adopt a relatively dogmatic, closed-minded orientation. As a consequence, situations that engender self-perceptions of high expertise elicit a more closed-minded cognitive style. These predictions are confirmed in six experiments
Brewer and the rest of the crew down at Pacific Heights scrabbling around this morning looking for something , anything that’s a SNP shite story and embarrassing themselves in the process .
I don’t do Twater but anyone that does let the rest of us know if any Tory is at home , have they all left the fkn country and in the process been struck dumb , WHY THE SILENCE ? .
stuart mctavish
4 years ago
@ahundredth idiot
Appears to me that the extended house arrest errs on the side of caution by allowing extra time to observe any reduction in infections in countries that have reopened ‘early’ in the hope that it is/was an overhyped seasonal illness.. thus mitigaitng the possiblity that international organisations have acted with integrity throughout after all!
Better yet, in light of recent disclosures about the likely inheritance of .guv’s chief spinner, one silver lining of the extended lockdown is that the Procurator Fiscal’s office may now have a window of opportunity to display consistency, if not integrity, by seeking extradition – ie on charges of attempted murder with premeditation – of certain government officials in the event that their English counterparts are not yet up to speed with the intent doctrine that the UK Supreme Court submitted to last year.
In an argument (usually a political debate), a concern troll is someone who is on one side of the discussion, but pretends to be a supporter of the other side with “concerns”.
The idea behind this is that your opponents will take your arguments more seriously if they think you’re an ally.
Concern trolls who use fake identities are sometimes known as sockpuppets.
Millennium
4 years ago
Famous15
Squirrels and deflection doesn’t hide your
Support for Sturgeon
You are a Flat Earther Sturgeonista.
I know you don’t like admitting that in public, but that is what you are.
Dogbiscuit
4 years ago
Shutting up and doing what you’re told is not a proud Scot.
PacMan
4 years ago
Saw this article, which originally came from the Scotsman:
I wonder what is wrong with the Scotsman publishing such an indy-friendly article. Is it about they are going to get Scottish government money?
Dogbiscuit
4 years ago
Some would have us believe that First Minister is innocently unwittingly surrounded by Agents of London that she ‘knows nothing’ as her civil service and party members pursued an innocent man through the corrupt courts. Nicola Sturgeon micro manages the SNP or I’ll eat my feldmutze.
At least he can get out for a game of golf.
Just a facade. Like the rest of modern life.
No, obviously since there’s an infected Dominic Cummings about.
Peek a boo.
Ah, now we can all play croquet
It’s a ripper Chris.Love it.
It exists, just need to get it a bit more empty. Walking the dogs is Hell for all the folk walking about our wee village.
Probably, from a perspective that assumes Dom Cummigs parents and their nearest neighbours are in robust health
Possibly not from a perspective that questions not only why police thought it appropriate to give him a talking to in the first place but also how they were able to collude with media, particularly social media presumably, to cover it up for him..
Of course the obvious irony of this small door opening onto this landscape is its colonial ownership
Was supposed to be doing the West Highland Way this week ,Wed to Sun, 🙁
if it looked like your artwork it would have been amazing,
but nearly 100% chance of rain most days with 25mph winds so a slight blessing that it`s been posponed till next year.
anyhoo,
Latest count of confirmed COVID-19 cases worldwide at 0130 GMT, May 23
World: 5,209,266
U.S.: 1,600,723
Brazil: 330,890
Russia: 326,448
UK: 255,544
Spain: 234,824
Italy: 228,658
France: 182,015
Germany: 179,710
Turkey: 154,500
Iran: 131,652
India: 124,794
Peru: 111,698
My new desktop wallpaper!
Once this Coronavirus finishes things won’t be the same, the people of Scotland have started to see the difference between the four countries in the Union, and as Scotland is the most ancient country we should and will be the first country to dissolve the Union, it’s definitely coming and england or the two other countries won’t stop happening.
Not yet Hamish, but we’re getting there.
p.s. I’m rather glad it’s blowing a hoolie and tipping it down today as it will discourage those who are inclined to ‘jump the gun’on the new rules, from venturing out.
(It also means I get a break from gardening).
We do live in interesting times.
How to overcome fear and anxiety
link to mentalhealth.org.uk
Bill Hume , softy! I have already been weeding and cutting this morning – I am an ace demolisher , not so good at the rest.
End this state sanctioned suppression! Get infantilizing ‘authority’ out of your head.
Let the rational individual CHOOSE his and her destiny.
…and enough of the highly questionable official stats too.
SOCIALIZING, THE THING THAT MAKES US TRULY HUMAN.
@ Bill Hume.
Well I was supposed to be painting the eaves today / tomorrow, but now I’m painting the bathroom ceiling, whit!
Chris, that would make a fine finishing hole back to the clubhouse, have you thought about taking up designing golf courses.
@ Scot Finlayson.
Considerations on your cancelled trip, likewise we had planned a trip to Barra, camping. Still, something to look forward to.
Should read commiserations.
Recall all that stuff about Islamist terrorists, covered heads and faces, niqab, burqa etc?
People walking about with face masks and scarves and surgical gloves haranguing you for not doing likewise is considerably more scary.
Fear is bringing out the conformist, inner Orwellian in so many.
Ottomanboi
Please fill your boots.
Using Culture to Manage Complexity and Ethical Risk
link to corporatecomplianceinsights.com
> Let the rational individual CHOOSE his and her destiny.
Sounds lovely except I don’t want selfish individuals choosing my destiny.
In a perfect world of black and white we would all have all the liberty we wanted. But when dreaming of this it is always forgotten that significant responsibility that comes with that. “Authority” is for all it’s problems a broker in the relationship between freedom of the individual and society in general. We delegate to authority things that would otherwise be awkward to manage at an inter-personal level.
So, you are more than welcome to throw off the chains of authority and enjoy your freedom as long as you accept my freedom to have you punished in a suitable manner for taking away the freedoms of my family members by your reckless behaviour.
Affa bonny. Quite like the view from my location. But what is that wee rectangle on a post in the bottom right hand corner?
There’s an acronym for the vast area of Scotland north of Perth – MAMBA – Miles And Miles Of Bugger All – which has been the case for 200 years.
Did Cummings stop for petrol before he left London or en route and leave his covid virus along the way. Bad enough to break lock down but to do it while suffering Covid is reprehensible, surely some other arrangement could have been made for the children or parent could have come to them, was he trying to promote his ‘herd’ immunity theory.
covid is bollocks
Interesting thread about the potato famine in Scotland in 1846 and the Destitution Boards set up to raise money. Gardeners will like the advice on sowing a rood of Beans in February, in Scotland!
link to twitter.com
@Golfnut,
cheers,
couple of years ago we done/did a cycle trip from Castlebay up to Tarbert over to Uig and through Skye to Armadale,
we got the sun that year,
the scenery is beyond stunning, no place like it on this planet.
“Stand guard at the portal of your mind.”
Ralph Waldo Emerson
Apparently if you feel you have virus symptoms it is now perfectly acceptable to drive to your parents, distance no object, but if you don’t have any symptoms it is against the rules.
I think feel the effects of the virus coming on, I’ll be going to see my family soon then. Cummings either goes or the whole lockdown has a hole in it, too many in power have ignored it when it is convenient for themselves, including quite a few MP’s
@Stuart Mackay
Which leaves those who seek authority the option to present to you a threat and in seeking security you will hand over the authority they seek.
Fear is the tool of tyrants and it works on the weak every time.
Presumably Cummings thought
If its ok for Charlie Mountbatten-Windsor …..
‘You can go and see yer pals next Thursday’ is fast becoming a meme.
Things are looking bad for the Tories, I expect that’s the last we’ve seen of Ms Davidson for a while, back to the hideaway till the dust settles I predict.
Although I predict the BBC are at this minute ferreting around for a SNP cover story.
It’s strange how the MSM was stalking the Scottish CMO at this time but nobody noticed Cummings driving 250 miles.
“Hello anybody out there” ?
Excellent again Mr Cairns.
Well done Cummings.
Lockdown is a complete nonsense, anyway.
It’s just a means of keeping the peasantry under house arrest.
Sorry, I haven’t and I will not be a party to it.
State control – no thanks.
That phrase still makes me squirm. I’ve never liked going to the dentist.
link to spectator.us
Every body is concentrating on where Dominic Cummings parents live but nobody is asking where his Wife’s parents live do they live closer to london
@ Scot Finlayson.
Some trip on a bike, but worth the effort no doubt about that, we camped at Port Ban last year, Jura across the water right outside our tent, the mist rolling up and down the sides of the mountains. We went to the march in Campbelltown, we had hoped to fit in a trip back to Kyntyre and check out some of the golf courses.
Yes, anything to distract from the mess Westminster is making of the whole affair. And always to distract and attempt to counter anything which might promote the independence cause. Don’t get distracted.
The Forward as One court case is moving ahead. It is the one positive thing that has been going on regarding actual progress towards independence which is not reliant on the Scottish government. Everyone who wants a resolution on the question of the legality or otherwise of the UK government position regarding a referendum should be interested. More details here:
link to crowdjustice.com
And a petition to sign here:
link to change.org
My mothers friends husband collapsed today and was rushed to hospital – brain haemorrhage.
One of the NHS priorities was to test him for COVID (no doubt for their safety) and guess fucking what – yip, tested positive.
result – no operation and they are leaving him to die.
His wife has been told she can do a quick in and out or wait at home for the phone call.
He will die today.
No doubt his death will go down as ‘with’ COVID
I thought the yankee doctor was just nuts when he said ‘hit with a bus – COVID, blow your own brains out with a gun – COVID’
Maybe Chris should’ve put a hospital in his picture.
There’s no Bakersfield Doctors in our NHS, that’s for sure.
Here’s a video debate lockdown/anti lockdown. Both did a written submission which is worth a read and both pretty convincing, which is of course the dilemma for most.
link to facebook.com
Of course, the world abounds with nefarious characters seeking to gain political advantage during a crises of government.
Virtues, Values, and Moral Bullying
Critical thinking in social media psychology.
link to psychologytoday.com
Stuart Mackay @ 10:05
congrats – you get saddest post of the day award.
and for your info Stuart, there is carbon dioxide in the air (and we all know that stuff kills you) so please stay indoors until it is safe to come out………we’ll let you know soon enough.
This might help folk figure out who is trying to help and who isn’t.
What determines the balance between intelligence signaling and virtue signaling?
link to lesswrong.com
Sorry Golfnut, but that piece is states;
‘the only data that we can be clear about are the raw number of deaths. In 2015 there were 28,330 deaths from seasonal flu’
The Excess Deaths for 2015 was 44,000 deaths.
secondly, it goes on to ‘project’ deaths to 4th Aug resulting in 43,479 (note the odd number at the end to give it credibility – an old trick from Vietnam War body counts) – please tell me how the fuck they can project that number??
The inevitable debate coming down the line is flu 2015 versus COVID 2020 – and this argument for me, is that start of the disinformation to make it look otherwise.
For clarity – 2015 44,000 and 2020 COVID 36,393 and counting.
2015 planes flew, business flowed, freedom prevailed.
2020 – everyone under house arrest and legislation that will be there for a generation and a Bill that will clear out pension funds.
The post and the argument is fit for the schoolyard.
@Golfnut,
have cycled on Jura,short trip on tiny ferry from Port Askaig huddled under a grain truck from the cold wind and rain,
got absolutely soaked but what a preternatural place Jura is.
Just tried to check up on the wings twitter feed re: everything cummings and couldn’t find it?
Brilliant Chris. Nothing is 100% safe.
Capella, I think you need to put your glasses on, that is no post in the corner, and the “sign” is something very familiar…
try clicking on the image for a bigger view
@ Alan Mackintosh – ha ha you’re right – it’s Hamish. I’d go and get my eyes tested but the opticians are on furlough. 🙂
@ahundredthidiot
I don’t like doing this but have you got a throwaway email or a gab.com account? (though gabs been offline for a few days due to maintenance as it seems the world is leaving twitter)
Very elegiac, Chris, very nice indeed. Thank you. A watercolour? Are you breaking out into landscapes? – there’s a fine talent there.
Your essential weekend reading:
‘Churchill in Dundee’: link to wp.me
Just read today that SAGE are saying that there is no scientific justification for the 2 metre distancing rule. It was just precautionary.
Apparently, 1 metre is probably sufficient and outdoors it is probably a waste of time.
Only one recorded case of someone catching the virus outside and that was speaking to another very close up.
The whole thing is a nonsense!
@ahundrethidiot
What a fake comparison excess deaths to covid deaths, then comparing 20 weeks of data with 53 weeks of data.
So I checked for E & W:
The average per week excess for 2015 is 870, using your 44,000 figures (although I can only see 35,722 but it depends on how you calculate it).
The average excess per week so far in 2020 is 2,250.
@Pete
The 1 metre has been the rule in some other countries, if the person has a cough I would probably stay a bit further away.
It can’t be nonsense a lot of people are dead. The rules may have been overly strict but if you were the person that was going to be held culpable, and the media like a scapegoat, you would probably go on the side of caution.
It would have been good to have had some proper research into the risk through different transmission paths, but this isn’t going to appear till after it is over I suspect, if ever.
Mary Wakefield is the woman Dom Cummings married.
As you should expect, she is the grand daughter of Sir Humphr
Wakefield of Chillingham Castle Northumberland.
She works for the right wing extremist rag the Spectator.
Her brother Jack Wakefield worked for a very dodgy Ukrainian
Business man who it is believed has links to the Russian Mafia.
A group who were involved in stealing Russian assets when the
Soviet Union was broken up.
If you care to look at the money made by those who own the Russian
Oil and Gas Companies.
So much money made the key stake holders can afford Billions for the
Worlds biggest football clubs and the larges luxury yachts afloat.
Could all this be a link to the Billions spent on London property by Russians.
Is Dom enduring that London is a safe haven for laundering mafia money?
When Scotland’s Epidemiologist Specialist was forced to resign for travelling to
A holiday home, I felt she should have been reprimanded and fined significantly
and yes removed from public exposure but we should not lose the most knowledgable
Expert in the field as it was cutting your nose off to spite your face.
However I’m left to confirm that we in Scotland face different morals and laws to the English establishment.
3 x Useless Tory MSP’s travel to go hillwalking together and post it on-line and Nothing?
Tory MP travels to a second home during the same lockdown and Nothing?
Prince Charles travels up to Scotland with the Virus and entourage and Nothing?
Now Cummings, puppet master to Boris, travel with the Virus and family 250 miles during lockdown
Using a petrol station and a Service Stations facilities where innocent members of the public
Who are part of our essential services teams are and Nothing?
Scotland you are 2nd Class citizens in the UK.
You will never be treated as equals
You will be controlled by those controlled by the money of the worlds most corrupt organisations
and you are not fighting to change your own countries destiny?
Joe at 12:02
I’m afraid I have neither.
Probably at the stage where I should stop posting on here though (yay!, I hear from the bed-wetters in the background) – I went a month or so recently and it did me good/getting back to my stoic ways!
@ ronnie anderson 10.59 – thx for link. Excruciating. Mary Wakefield gets down on her knees to pray for Boris Johnston. Then drives 230 miles, shedding virus all the way, but fails to record that in her covid diary. Cummings will have to resign but that won’t stop him plotting our downfall on a consultancy basis.
In the week up to the 17 May, 7300 people in England tested positive for the virus.
At Priti Patel’s Coronavirus Briefing on the 22 May, she announced 3287 people had had tested positive in the previous 24 hours.
From 18 May to 22 May (there was no figure for 20 May) the total is around 10000.
With the lockdown easing in England next week’s infection should be interesting.
Effigy, Catherine Calderwood wasnt an epidemiological expert, from memory she was a Gynaecologist. She may have been the CMO, but that doesnt make her an expert on epidemiology. As for Jason Leitch the clinical director – from a sibling who is a dentist- no-one has heard of him in Scottish Dentistry so I have no idea where he came from either, and he’s no expert in epidemiology either, he was apparently a dentist
ahundredthidiot
How many NHS personnel died during the 2015 flu epidemic?
Allan Mackintosh I rarely use such words but a wee glance at wicki will show what you said is.
PISH
@ahundredtheidiot,
“I’m afraid I’m at the stage I should stop posting on here”
At least you recognise your sell by date has expired.
Blackford on the telly – bumbling oaf spouting faux outrage as though NS handled the Calderwood carry on with any degree of competence.
I’ll never believe another word that falls from that man’s lips…
“We will not allow Scotland to be dragged…” Blah blah blah.
Donkey!
Famous15
Allan Mackintosh is correct.
Neither are epidemiologists.
Their backgrounds are obstetrics and oral surgery then into public health and patient safety.
Peter Hitchens said;
‘Government is throwing people into the sea and then taking credit for rescuing them’
Belter.
Alan MacIntosh and Private Pete.
From all the horrific details within my post you pick out
The insignificance of our health advisors qualifications?
We are proven to be beneath 2nd class citizens and
The Westminster puppets are linked to the Russian Mafia.
Are the numbers 77 on your uniforms or 6’s on the back of your head?
@James says:
23 May, 2020 at 10:23 am
covid is bollocks
If they are infected I have only one question.
How did that happen?
Effigy, many years since I wore uniform and it wasnt 77 brigade or 6th Div.
Sorry for not commenting on the other points in your post, but I didnt have any knowledge to hand to comment on them. My post above was regarding the qualifications of the personnel and how that pertains to the situation.
As for Cummings, probably the stuff you mention is true/possibly true- I’m not sure. But he will likely weather this because I cant see Johnson functioning without him. If he goes, Johnson will probably fall
haha – gotta love family guy
The brothers who made the Matrix are ladies now!
oh man, that cheered me up, world is fckn nuts…..
Have a look at the Firtash Foundation
Mary Cumming’s brother Jack has close links to-
In December 2011, Wakefield married Dominic Cummings, a friend of her brother Jack Wakefield,[8] former director of the Firtash Foundation.[9]
Nice ‘toon Chris.
(Campbeltown is lovely, even in the wind and rain. 😀 )
Safe? No not yet and if it was left to some of the lunatics posting on here many of us with partners, friends, sisters etc who have health disibilities would be ok to move among the general population while this pandemic rages.
I sometimes fucking despair.
But, I know that we don’t listen to idiots online. Thankfully
Cummings and his ‘let them eat lockdown’ moment.
link to twitter.com
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@ ahundrethidiot.
The point of the post was to highlight the difficulty, because both arguments were well presented, just how difficult it was for an ordinary member of the public to decide for or against, I’m sorry you didn’t get that.
The evidence of BBC bias is no better displayed by how they covered the Scottish CMO case and how they have moved in to defend the UK Gov advisor. No questions just quotes from those ‘close to Dominic Cummings’, tweeting out the excuses with no investigation of the bollocks they are.
Puppet-master Cummings is only as useful as his boss continues to be. Once the men in grey suits decide Brexit is done and Covid-19 becomes background noise, they’ll both be gone.
looks like hamish on the set of the truman show
hello world
if only
Sooooooooooo
Lib Dems….the party whose first response is always ‘Resign’….for a certain party…only.
What they say about Dominic Cummings..( checked 2pm today).
Well Alex C Hamilton…retweeted Matt Forde tweet….as Alex chooses NOT to tweet an opinion himself.
Willie Rennie..retweeted Ed Davey comment….as Willie chooses NOT to tweet an opinion himself…
Christine Jardine…retweeted Tim Farron…as Christine chooses NOT to tweet an opinion herself.
Alistair Carmichael…nowt on his Twitter re this….did he NOT get the MEMO….Lol
Why so shy when normally they are first out of the block to shout RESIGN…..this reticence to formulate a direct opinion is so out of character…it’s obvious to us that collectively they should have all being demanding he resigns….are they ill ?
Scottish Tories….well they are still in operation deflection mode…..as befits their branch position….they are HQ’s rearguard obvs…….and surprisingly they have all decided “Now is not the time” to have an opinion…….shocked I am…
Pity that the BT flanks have been temporarily broken….however I’m sure normal service will be resumed and once more they can all regroup into the one UK uber alles party….and begin another new battle….for the Union.
ps. Never bothered checking Scottish Labour Twitter…cause…?
After the BBC has made so much capital about a single person at the Nike confrence being the centre of the Scottish outbreak (the MSM claim, unfounded of course). I fully expect them to be in Durham tracing all those that may have crossed Dominic Cummings path, after all someone must have brought the first case to Durham.
How many died because he wanted to see his mum on her birthday? Of course he claims he never saw her, did he post the kids and all there stuff through the letterbox.
Golfnut
But they are not well presented……that’s what I highlighted.
Unless you point was that there is deception within presentation (and I am sure we all know that by now), but you didn’t say that
Mogabee
you must be on a different planet from the rest of us ‘as the pandemic rages’ – where exactly?? it has a kill rate of a bad flu. If a pandemic was raging there would be a ‘from’ COVID death in every family and street and there isn’t…….maybe you should be less hysterical, it’s good for your health! A couple of thousand deaths in a population of around 5.5 million, is while tragic, also negligible in the greater scale of things.
Many more will die from the measures – suicides and drug deaths are on the rise, more will perish once the Bill people see the Bill.
Re Cummings, it’s the “going out” that’s wrong. Not the reason, the with whom, to who, where or why. None of that is a defense.
He broke his own rules. Doesn’t matter though. He’ll be back at work Monday morning.
Maybe Starmer can explain it to Johnston on Wednesday.
@Clapper57
Willie Rennie probably would have tweeted in his defence but apparently there is no link to paedophilia so saw no reason to become directly involved.
Does anyone on Twitter want to tweet Piers Morgan to advise him Ruth Davidson is back on the propaganda circuit and he should invite her on GMB on Monday ….he can get her (skewed) take on this….tell him would be good to get her opinion on current Tory defence position on Cummings as currently she has muted her opinion on her Twitter account…. See no EVEL, Hear no EVEL and Speak no EVEL Davidson….
Softly softly interviews from Lorraine ‘I’m really disappointed Ruth isn’t running for Tory leader’ Kelly do not cut it….
Mogabee,
Nobody, I repeat nobody is suggesting that vulnerable people should be forced to mix with the general population.
Anyone who needs to self isolate should continue to do so.
If you do not expose yourself to the virus you will not contract the virus.
You will not increase your chances of contracting the virus if your neighbour goes to work or if somebody from round the corner goes to the park.
You are either exposing yourself to the virus or not.
Self isolation works with a lockdown or without a lockdown, the whole fucking point of self Isolation is not to expose yourself to the virus.
And you sometimes fucking despair.
Ffs is all I can say to that.
Sturgeon should have sacked CMO Calderwood on the spot for misconduct. She didn’t. Sturgeon’s weakness, lack of leadership and poor decision making was yet again exposed.
(There’s more to leadership than good communication skills and a brass neck).
Boris Johnson should have sacked Special Adviser Dominic Cummings.
The Scottish British Imperials and the imperial BBC were right to highlight Calderwood should have been sacked.
Their silence or lame excuses for Cummings’ disgraceful conduct shows them for the hypocrites they are.
For them it’s not about what’s right or wrong. Not about people with great responsibility and privilege being held accountable. It’s not about trying to save people’s lives:
it’s all about maintaining the Imperial political domination by the British ruling Establishment.
(IS IT SAFE?)
Afraid not, it will never be safe until we dump this forced one-sided union forever.
The Cummings debacle just reinforces what we already know about the Westminster government, they do virtually what they want with impunity. Where as in Scotland Sturgeon falls over herself to play by Westminster’s rules on just about everything.
We’ll get absolutely nowhere fast on independence with Sturgeon at the helm, we need someone with courage, determination and a ruthless streak focused on independence and not on complying with Westminster’s rules.
Big Auntie’s colonial web sites have the numbers but not her own number on BBC England web site darn Sarf
Scotland…….today…..16…….Total……2261…BBC
Wales……….today…..06…….Total……1260…BBC
N. Ireland…..today…..01…….Total…….505…BBC
England……..today…*175…….Total….*25534..*SUN
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UK………….today…*351…….Total….*36393..*SUN
@ Katherine Hamilton
I wouldn’t hold my breath for a positive intervention from Keir Starmer. Isn’t he the guy who denied an inquiry into the killing of Jean Charles De Menezes?
Just another minor irritation for the Westminster Control Centre.
“NO new lessons will be uploaded to the BBC’s daily home-schooling service net week – because pupils in England and Wales are on holiday.”
link to thenational.scot
Again as part of this forced union Scots are forever just an after thought, a nation seen as a colony to be exploited as seen fit by a foreign countries government. Weve kowtowed to it for 313 years one wonders how much longer we’ll remain on our knees.
Even the Palestinians have more courage in their convictions than we have and they’ve only been occupied since 1948, though the Ottomans and British occupied it as well. Hamish should really be a mouse not a lion to reflect just how meek we really are .
Capella says:
Indeed. Bottom line …. did anyone die or was left maimed for life by the Cummings family actions?
Truth is, we’ll never know. However given the high infectious level of Covid19 there is a distinct possibly someone did catch it from them. And, if you do catch it there is a definite chance It will kill you.
That’s the point. Wilfully taking risks with other innocent people’s lives is completely unacceptable. No excuses. No quarter.
Davidson disappears again, apparently she does want to be left hold the baby,…. Oh hold on!
Totally OT. However this makes for a laugh (and secretly a shudder). Its an article from October in the US last year. The person who wrote this is a ‘Doctor’.
For me it represents the shockingly twisted and upside down thinking that is being foisted on honest people by talentless, bitter academics. In Scotland its current form is in the trans debate.
link to nytimes.com
This is pure cultural poison.
Please note how this is written very brazenly as ‘the way the incident can be viewed or interpreted’ being more important than the actual facts. This is a corner stone of the kind of thinking coming from academia now and is embraced, although still somewhat tentatively, by many of our political class. This is why I utterly hate them. This is why those who can’t quite put the pieces together yet will hate them too in the fullness of time. Welcome to cultural marxism where you, dear reader, are the oppressor by the original sin of your place of birth and your heritage.
@ jfngw @ 2.21pm
Yep jfngw, and Willie knows where “the link” to paedophilia is within his party…..but then, like the Memogate Carmichael scandal, Willie believes in ‘second chances’…..but ONLY for the RIGHT people within the RIGHT party that is….
Willie as per…subservient to HQ thus he is currently being RESERVED in his opinion…..HQ happy to DEVOLVE minor matters to Willie…as they recognise his true level of (non) ability…well on the political stage….he, like the Tories in Scotland, are the rearguard for the Unionist parties….happy to flank from the sidelines using…. carping… as a weapon….Lol
I get really pissed off by anyone playing down the seriousness and threat of this pandemic.
Mortality in a population is 0.7% – 3% depending upon the demographics, general health state, and access to medical, especially intensive, care.
Covid19 is extremely infectious (much much more than flu). Antibody surveys in the UK, France and Spain have found about 5% in each country has had it. 10% in Madrid, 11% in Paris, 17% in London.
UK deaths of positively tested people is 37k, however Covid19 appeared on a lot more death certs who were never tested. Then there are excess deaths over last 5 years average. Some estimates put the real death toll at 60-70k.
The above three things – mortality, infections, and deaths – are entirely consistent. They present a picture far worse than the official UK numbers suggest, of course. The UK is probably the worst hit (by population size) on the planet.
Here’s the crunch though – if there had been no lockdown the number of infections could have been ten times greater, however the deaths could have been worse than ten times because most sick people couldn’t have accessed any healthcare.
We’ve had a close shave! And it ain’t over yet.
@galamcennalath
Im sorry, you didn’t mention the novel you were reading this in?
@ahundrethidiot.
What you mean is that figures were wrong, I wouldn’t argue the toss either way. Whether one or both presentations were dishonest is surely a subjective opinion and part of the decision making process each listener/ reader would decide on considering the merits of each presentation. Neither we’re bad presentations, both were believable and that is what causes the dilemma for the reader/listener.
I think it’s time for some “liberation psychology”. Here’s a video lecture.
Accompanying: Healing Through Liberation Psychology
link to counsellingni.co.uk
And here’s a source some might find useful.
Psychology of Liberation
link to link.springer.com
5,000,000 cases of Covid,
300,000 deaths,
so 6% of cases die.
Dear Joe, try this.
link to euromomo.eu
Just go to graphs then scroll down to the UK.
These are graphs of actual excess deaths per head of population in Scotland England etc.
Note that England has the highest rating in the whole of Europe.
I know not whether it is the highest in the world.
robertknight says:
23 May, 2020 at 1:06 pm
Blackford on the telly – bumbling oaf spouting faux outrage as though NS handled the Calderwood carry on with any degree of competence.
I’ll never believe another word that falls from that man’s lips…
“We will not allow Scotland to be dragged…” Blah blah blah.
Donkey!
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Couldn’t agree more Robert I’m not so much angry at his empty words I’m more angry at the fact I believed him
For those who recently signed up for Gab as a potential alternative to an increasingly toxic Twitter, @Ceannairc has been busy posting links, so please pop along and check your follower numbers now that it’s back up and running after lengthy ‘maintenance’.
link to gab.com
Who/What murdered Barry Sherman: link to forbes.com
Anyone else believe Cummings never had the virus but just wanted to visit his mother on her birthday, did he get tested, was it positive.
All these toilets between London and all these service stations! How many infected?
#durhamgate!
Scot Finlayson,
That is incorrect.
The death rate is not 6%, it is nowhere near.
You are excluding all the people who don’t know they’ve had it or don’t need to seek treatment.
As an example;
Sweden, believed to be extreme in it’s slack lockdown, according to reports 20% to 30% of the population have or have had the virus.
We’ll take the lower percentage of 20% which is 2,000,000.
People that have died in Sweden from the virus is about 4000.
So according to the information to hand the mortality rate in Sweden is therefore 0.2%.
My apologies if that figure isn’t scary enough for some people.
My take on this thought provoking scene:
Is it safe (to go for independence) or will we choose to be forever in lockdown (i.e in the United Kingdom)?
Using the same information the mortality rate in Sweden for under 50s is less than 0.005%
Galamcenalath
Sorry, my maths make the death rate at around 0.05%
How do you get your figures?
Breastplate
Swedish cultural psychology is different to ours, so you’re likely to be adding to your risk by read too much into statistical comparisons.
Covid-19: Prioritise people over profit!
link to liberationorg.co.uk
sorry….reading too much
Considerations relating to social distancing measures in response to COVID-19 – second update
23 March 2020
link to ecdc.europa.eu
CBB,
I’m not making any comparisons, I’m merely doing the maths with the information we have,
When that information changes, so too will the maths.
Dominic Cummings and his wife catch the virus
They travel to Durham with their child
Dominic’s wife then writes several articles about life in lock down in London with no mention of them travelling to Durham.
Result
BBC in full he was protecting his child mode, it was advice, he did not do anything anyone else would not do
What a joke – but it is the BBC we are talking about
Just received a WhatsApp showing 2 Sets of front
Pages for the Sun and the telegraph.
The first 2 front page headlines were all about England’s Prof Lockdown
Have to resign as he travelled during curfew to meet his lady on the side.
The same 2 papers have front page headlines without any trace of a Dom
Cummings breaking curfew and showing contempt for the lives of others.
UK newspapers don’t deserve to exist!
Is Pete’s surname Bolsonaro ?
@Alex Lomac,
Just Bals!!
@Ian brotherhood
Have just posted myself.
I’ll repeat it here for those still wary of gab:
link to nhglobalpartners.com
This is our future if we permit it.
@Bill Hume
I’ll refer you to a previous post of mine:
link to wingsoverscotland.com
Mrs. Murrell tried to hold on to her CMO, so nobody can blame the Tory party for doing the same thing, least of all Blackford.
Cummings HAS to go though. Might be good if he took Blackford with him.
Here we go again another Saturday evening and another old English football match on Scottish TV, this time Arsenal v Liverpool.
STV are a fucking disgrace they have been for years now, pumping out English content relentlessly in Scotland. Their latest bullshit trick is advertising old Take the High Road episodes on its shitty player instead of broadcasting Scottish made programmes.
Even Catalonia has its own channels with content from the region. But Scots meekly, bar the odd few who rail against it, sit back and take it, and have done so for decades.
Joe
Who exactly are you outside your imagination?
Covid-19 Project: “Meaning in the Coronavirus crisis”
link to selfdeterminationtheory.org
@CameronB Brodie
A concerned citizen. Which is all I need to be.
There you go! A reply. Don’t get used to it.
Joe
From my perspective, you’re either ignorant or malicious in intent.
A Road-map to Surviving Stay-at-home, one day at a time in a pandemic: A Self-Determination Theory approach to coping with the invisible enemy, COVID — 19/New CoronaVirus
link to medium.com
@CameronB Brodie
That’s the 2nd shot at the man and not his argument.
There you go, that’s your monthly quota of replies from me. Don’t get greedy. Go on, you’ll have critical theory to study regarding the ethical competence of post waffle enfranchisement in a realist dialectic semi-carbuncle.
Joe
You’re not bad at this game, I’ll give you that. I’ve been living this way of thinking for some time now, so you’re onto plumbs we me.
Self-Determination Theory of Motivation
link to urmc.rochester.edu
@Republicofscotland
Scotland V USSR 1983 on BBC Scotland after 7:15pm tonight.
Sportscene!
For those interested.
OR
link to hesgoal.com free streaming.
about 6 live matches on now. German and Hungarians league.
Carole Cadwalldr asking some serious questions about exactly what Jonhson, Gove and Cummings are up to.
Read the thread.
link to facebook.com
A bit of perspective when comparing the Spanish Flu with COVID-19, remember that the health services worldwide were puny in relation to today. Doctors then did not have the same level of scientific knowledge either. And ventilators were not exactly commonplace.
This is aimed at the politicians of all parties everywhere when, after things calm down a bit, they try and take credit for not having a similar death toll to the Spanish Flu.
That treacherous bastard Jackson Carlaw and his Westminster compliant MSPs who quickly came down on Catherine Calderwood Scotlands Chief Medical Officer have been silent on their own party’s Dominic Cummings breaking the lockdown rules.
Not a peep no mouthing off from Davidson or Fraser or Tomkins or that wee incoherent naff, and list MSP from Easterhouse, who I’ve forgotten her names such is her charisma at Holyrood or on the unionist media.
Once again Scotlands MSPs voted in by residents of Scotland stay stum to protect the government party of a foreign country. Only in Scotland.
This country Scotland is so far down the rabbit hole, that even Lewis Carroll would be turning in his grave wondering who on Earth could begin I write a way out of it for Scotland.
Ah, I remember her Annie fucking Wells.
link to thenational.scot
And I tell you another thing whilst I’m having my wee rant, that snivelling wee runt, and false accuser, on Twitter (remember that?) Susan Calman is never off the bloody unionist telly with her BoS adverts, in which she has the bloody cheek to tell she knows about Scots.
This wee pile o shite has been well rewarded by the union on tv shows, radio, and adverts for selling her country out, she knows SFA about Scots that one.
‘Hydroxychloroquine was used in Shanghai as the first line of treatment,” said Arguedas.’
link to qcostarica.com
Would an easily obtained and cheap drug go against the interests of certain groups? How much social control would you need then? How much profit would be missed? People would not need government and international institutions telling them what to do.
louder with crowder has done a william wallace sketch on youtube about the state we are in here in Scotland
quite funny…..and so it should be, our SNP govt is a laughing stock around the world now.
But this one has a patent involved.
link to bloomberg.com
‘The collaboration follows the January 2010 call by Bill and Melinda Gates for the next ten years to be the Decade of Vaccines.’
link to gatesfoundation.org
Anthony S.Fauci on the board:
link to gcgh.grandchallenges.org
Callmedave @6.55pm Sorry Dave, I try not to watch that token tv channel, oh and after the footy we have Mrs Brown the Movie, Queen Vicky and her wee pet Scot played by Billy Connolly, who if I recall, correctly wasnt too keen on independence in 2014.
Grouse Beater @ 12.10 pm
Thank you for your link to your blog post regards Churchill , An interesting read and just now on Channel 4 there’s a programme re Dunkirk and next on at 8.20pm there’s a programme called Forgotten Heroes and it’s about the 51st Highland Division at Dunkirk , should be interesting to watch .
Dominic Cummings caught breaking lockdown second time to visit his parents according to the Sunday Mirror.
This after Transport secretary at briefing stated he had gone to Durham and isolated. But he was later seen after returning to London back in Durham at a later date.
@Ahundredthidiot
I second that. Hysterically funny!
As an addition to the above Mirror story, I’m now awaiting the official Kuenssberg press release with the government position.
@Joe says:
23 May, 2020 at 7:36 pm
‘Hydroxychloroquine was used in Shanghai as the first line of treatment,” said Arguedas.’
Even the BBC have rumbled that one of many product placements going on.
link to bbc.co.uk
@Dakk
Well thank god for the BBC eh? Its always good to have a solid honest institution to rely on.
Maggie C.
The long and the short of it, Churchill sold out the 51st Highlanders but he blamed it on the French. Like General Wolfe, said and Churchill thought, Highlanders falling in battle is seen by Westminster as no great loss. Haig a Scot and British puppet sent thousands of Scots to their deaths at the Somme.
Haven’t you heard we Scots are expendable.
The National newspapers has half page devoted to it today.
Off thread guys… but happy for thought!… If the whole of the UK switched off TV for a fortnight… especially boycotting MSM being Sky and BBC news in particular, would the virus just disappear and life return to normality (and not the new normal whar ever that will be!!) ?
@joe
It’s on Sky, cnn, guardian, the lot I’m afraid.
There’s been a lot of free advertising going on from early on with covid.
The most prominent UK one being the astra zeneca Cambridge uni ‘vaccine’.
Many medics say it’s a cardio vascular issue and treating it with related therapy.
@Dakk
‘It’s on Sky, cnn, guardian, the lot I’m afraid.’
Yes. I agree. It is.
Journalist from the Guardian newspaper tweeted :
“One of the many unanswered questions about the Cummings affair: if it was all so obviously above-board and fine, why did No 10 refuse to comment on it for almost seven weeks? We first asked them about it on 5 April”.
I mean the Tories in Scotland have been rabidly uber vocal on TRANSPARENCY being vital…keeping the public informed….no cover ups….untenable positions of ministers in the Scottish govt…..yada yada…..indeed.
I see they have all declared a vow of silence on Twitter today….shoe on the other foot now……no doubt concocting a collective bot like spin response to give to their pals in the compliant media….
Or rather asking their pals in the media if they are sitting on a #SNPBAD story and perhaps releasing it now…..timing is EVERYTHING..even if story is flimsy and lacking real substance or truth…anything to deflect attention away……
‘Nicola Sturgeon trying to contact Aliens to invade England’….
“Take me to your leader….not the figurehead one in No 10….his adviser The Dom…. the REAL leader”.
‘Annie Wells abducted by Aliens….brought back pronto….as no intelligent life was found……Sturgeon tricked aliens into believing that both ‘life’ and ‘intelligence’ was present in Ms Wells brain cell’……
“and she would have got away with too if hadn’t been for those pesky list votes…i.e. the ones that let in dead weights with one brain cell into Holyrood as an MSP”…..said Head Alien Major Tom Tom….previously a Captain of the Fleet…street.
@Breastplate,
5,000,000 people have tested positive for the virus,
300,000 have died,
that means 6% of those known to have the virus have died.
Just seen a really funny thing on Mr Malky Twitter account…cannot add link but please watch…
Tweet from TheIanDuncanSmiths…video called CUMMA MIA..really really funny.
The National:
FRESH witness reports put Dominic Cummings in Durham for a second trip during lockdown, days after being filmed in London having recovered from coronavirus.
Pressure had already been mounting on Boris Johnson to sack his chief aide after it emerged he had travelled 260 miles to his parents’ home during lockdown while displaying coronavirus symptoms.
link to archive.is
@Joe
Yes. I agree. It is.
So do you think it is big pharma product placement, or it actually works as Covid therapy?
Scott Finlayson
In terms of total population the death rate is minuscule.What is the death rate of those who get cancer?
Quite high, I would guess.
What’s your point?
Pete
Cancer is not a virus, you don’t catch it, it’s not contagious.
Scot Finlayson,
Yes, that is now correct.
@Scot Finlayson
Beware some are probably quoting the CMR rather than the IMR, it gives a lower number because you are including those that have never been infected.
Although Scot Finlayson,
Probably better to replace known with confirmed
Jfngw,
It seemed to me that Scot Finlayson was implying that everyone who contracted the virus had a 6% chance of death. That was certainly what I inferred,
What do you think?
Who exactlyy are all these unqualified voices urging a relaxation of lock-down?
Full text.
link to journals.sagepub.com
Clapper57 @ 8.37 pm
Here’s the link to the video your talking about ,
link to mobile.twitter.com
@Breastplate
I wasn’t sure what you were talking about in your first reply because you hadn’t flagged who you were responding to, there are a lot of numbers flying around here.
But I did work out the death share of under 50’s in Sweden, which according to statistia data (22nd May) is 0.18% of confirmed cases. This is not the Infection Mortality Rate as there is nowhere I can find how many under 50’s have been infected, just the total of infected. It doesn’t look like anyone is gathering the infection rate by age (I can’t find them anyway), it could be higher or lower than the 0.18% depending on the spread of the infection across age groups. I could make a guess by the demographics of the country but then that’s me just making up numbers.
Jfngw,
My point to Scot Finlayson was that if we are only going to use confirmed cases to find mortality rates as you have now just done then the situation regarding the virus will look much bleaker and more frightening than it actually is.
Would you not agree?
@ MaggieC @ 9.15pm
Many Thanks…I hope you are well.
Hope you enjoyed it….I did…..need some respite…desperately.
Have a good evening (what’s left of it)…have a chilled and good day tomorrow.
@Brestplate
I should have added the death share of over 50’s (Sweden) who have had the virus is 11.65% (11.3% if you make it over 60’s), that makes about 88% recovered.
To be honest I don’t believe we will ever have the exact numbers for deaths or infected so working these out to decimal places is actually a waste of time.
@Breastplate
I made the last reply before I read your latest so it is not an answer to that comment.
Yes I agree without knowing the actual infection totals the number will be higher, I don’t know how you get round that though. The worldometer site has good bit of research in New York where they reckon the infection rate is 10 times the confirmed detected rate. That seems reasonable as it would give Scotland a fatality rate of about 1.4% which is what they worked out in NY.
link to worldometers.info
@Breastplate
Final comment on these numbers. It’s clear to keep this number down we need to stop those over 60 or 70 catching it. The more of them that catch it the higher the mortality number will be.
The problem here is it seems near impossible to protect them if there is a lot of cases in the community. Sweden tried this with care homes but there are just too many vectors for its entry. On paper it looks easy but I suspect it will fail.
I wonder if the Conservative party are wanting out, it’s funny how the cummings story has just come out after a fair length of time, whatever party is in power in england it’s going to be hard going to keep things going down there, the Conservative party would maybe prefer the Labour Party in for a few years until things settle down, perfect opportunity for Scotland to go its own way, rules for some not for others, hard to see if things will ever change.
‘the Conservative party would maybe prefer the Labour Party in for a few years until things settle down,’
And this time it is they who leave a note on the chancellors desk saying
‘sorry, we’ve spent all the money’
And this time, it will be the understatemt of the century.
jfngw says:
23 May, 2020 at 8:48 pm
Pete
Cancer is not a virus, you don’t catch it, it’s not contagious
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link to mdanderson.org
Did anyone believe a Boris Johnson government would be any better than this, we expected a disaster, he has surpassed himself in our expectations. He is the exemplar of disastrous government surrounded by an equally incompetent cabinet.
jfngw
23 May, 2020 at 10:31 pm
Did anyone believe a Boris Johnson government would be any better than this,
I wouldn’t believe any british government would be any than this to be honest.
@jnfgw, dakk –
Seems like a lifetime ago now, but even before Boris was installed (could anyone confidently name the month now?) there were bold claims that he would be the shortest-serving PM in British history.
The fact that he’s still there has nothing to do with him – it’s all about the power of the State, keeping him there for as long as required/possible. To the real power brokers he’s nowt but a useful – and entirely disposable – narcissist who’s already been ‘paid’ with achievement of the highest office in The Land. And he knows it. That’s why he doesn’t give a fuck and is spending as much time as possible on holiday/’seriously ill’.
Jackson Carlaw has been trolled by Richard Leonard over Cummingsgate.
Now that really is being savaged by a dead sheep!
link to twitter.com
@dakk & Ian Brotherhood
If this doesn’t move people to independence what possibly will.
If it doesn’t happen soon I feel it’s over for me in my lifetime. I’m 66 in July, at best that’s probably 14 years (less if I follow my dad’s example).
@jnfgw –
Don’t lose heart mister – you must be about the same age as Alex Salmond, and look how much we’re still expecting of him!
😉
@Rm says:
23 May, 2020 at 10:12 pm
“I wonder if the Conservative party are wanting out”
Could be. James Herbert’s book “Lair”, sequel to “The Rats” has a narrative with the opposition “rubbing their hands in glee” as they had been blamed for the original attacks. Sounds familiar.
And if there is any truth regarding a second trip by Cummings then he will have painted Boris into a corner.
You can just see Boris now, phoning about the Royals to see if any of them are ready to get married this week, or is there a Royal sprat ready for dropping
If not, is there any WW2 anniversary coming up, so he can wheel Lizzie out to speak to the gullable masses.
Anything but Cummings,,, it’s destroying his Image.
Rot in hell ya english prick
@Millenium
Yep, if this goes on the may have get Prince Andrew onboard.
@Ian B
‘That’s why he doesn’t give a fuck and is spending as much time as possible on holiday/’seriously ill’.’
And not even having to try pretend otherwise.
Listening to Jim Callaghan on the 1979 election result it is clear that Scotland’s birthright was stolen by Maggie Thatcher.
North Sea oil was as big for Scotland as it was for Norway but we allowed Thatcher to steal our future.
Scotland wake up!
As mentioned above,,,I hope those Indy fence sitters come down on the side of sanity, Justice and logic and become rabid Nationalists.
Boris is our ticket to Independence, so he needs to be kept there for as long as possible, but as for Cummings, that guy is a physicopathic lunatic and will probably need taken out of No10 in a straight jacket.
All good for indyRef2
NY Times sombre Sunday edition front page:
link to twitter.com
@mike cassidy
Aye! Ricky Leopard getting top trolling marks for his Carlaw tweet
I’ve been listening on Radio 5 live to the ‘Cummings not goings’ thing it’s been ding-dong but a lot of Tory callers trying to defend it no matter what.
Sleepless night for Boris. The nation awaits his decision I’ll bet a little bit of him would like to ditch him but Cummings knows where & who in all things nefarious in the last wee while.
A close call! 🙂
@jnfgw, 9.56
“The problem here is it seems near impossible to protect them if there is a lot of cases in the community.”
It’s difficult but not impossible. Prophylactics are needed. In the first place, people should have been advised to take Vitamin C, Vitamin D and zinc to maintain their immune system. Anyone can still do this. In the second place, GPs should have been advised about the use of hydroxychloroquine + zinc sulphate as a prophylactic for people in the high-risk groups. Hopefully, as more is learned from the countries which are using this, it will become a common practice here.
Attractive picture, Chris. Makes me want to go for a hill walk. “Is it safe?”. Yes, it is.
@Capella
Quite a difference to VE bank holiday when the deaths here were 25,000 (equivalent to 130,000 in the US) our papers had ‘Let’s Party’ on the front page.
So they’re humanitarians now
Locked in their white cliff-dwellings
Encased in their repellent,guano,bat-free and guilt free
Grey over SW1 the clouds piled up
Dragged their rain through the cemetery trees
The gates shone cold
As the blonde shilput dog grimly fucks some unalert poodles,uncontrolled
Under the darkness of a twisted pram
A cat’s eyes glitter
National identity is akin to a hand of cards
That is acquired, shuffled
And pragmatically presented to others when thought propitious
Despite our countdown some were loath to go
We sighed, climbed in, locked
If it was love they felt, would it not keep and travel, where we travelled ?
#EdwinMorgan
@dakk
Hydroxychloroquine is not restricted for manufacture. It is not protected by patent. To make real money big pharma needs a patented product.
More accurately its a generic drug that has patented products manufactured from it.
Joe
Can I ask what your training is to qualify you as competent to advise on covid-19 treatment?
link to bmj.com
Joe appears to be quite happy to endanger the safety of others, in order to punt his political outlook.
link to rheumatology.medicinematters.com
The link for Clapper57 funny video
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJY6QOEa4Ww
Can anybody tell me how many YES hubs there are across Scotland and their membership numbers roughly Cheers
twathater 3.26am
Regarding YES Hubs,,,,as far as I know Nicola Sturgeon has had them all closed down.
Labelling them Dens of Iniquity that are nothing more than a cover for drug abuse, mass orgies and organised by the intellectually challenged.
In UK,
257,000 confirmed to have the virus,
36,000 of those have died,
that means the UK death rate is 14% of those confirmed with virus,
over double the world average.
OMG – I didn’t ever think Rheinhart Leotard had it in him. However, just one wee observation on his brilliant trolling of Jackass Carlot – he really should have written: ” U ok Hun?”
There’s no question a Tory will see the opportunity in any situation to feather their own nest, this pandemic is no exception.
I found this in the Grouse Beater article/blog regarding Winston Churchill, I hope he doesn’t mind the quote as he wasn’t too happy with someone else quoting him in a blog but i think this highlights it better than I can.
No one asked how he had entered the war bankrupt and in massive debt, but ended it with the equivalent of £2 million in his bank account.
60,000+ deaths more than normally expected over virus period in the UK.
30,000+ are directly down to the incompetent English Tory government. Boris Johnson and Dominic Cummings have blood on their hands, they need to go and now.
@ Socrates MacSporran.
Not sure that leotard did this off his own back, more likely emboldened if not prodded by HQ wanting an enquiry( note, not sacked ) into Cummings.
To borrow a phrase from Stu,the only prophylactic the ”experts” here should advise is the one their father should have used.
When I read so much mischievous nonsense here I cannot fail to conclude that the Unionists are getting desperate and are spewing discord and confusion.
Independence is inevitable but please hurry up,I am not getting any younger.
@Scot Finlayson,
We all know that not a single figure coming out of the UK can be trusted. 36k dead, though the true figure could easily be 60k. As to the number infected, the total including those who have not been tested could realistically be close to 1 million based on the mortalities that have occurred.
Meanwhile I’m on day 2 of a 4 day curfew in the Middle East. We have been on a 5pm – 9am curfew for the last month with all gatherings of >5 outlawed – during Ramadan and now Idh. Idh which is basically THE biggest event in the Muslim calender year.
I wonder what would happen in UK were Bojo to tell people they couldn’t visit family on Christmas day.
John Boothman rehashing old news to attack SNP in Sunday Times.
John Boothman, married to Labour MSP, was head of BBC Scotland news and current affairs during 2014 Referendum and lost tribunal case after bullying the daughter of Margo MacDonald.
link to theguardian.com
@ Famous15 says: 23 May, 2020 at 11:47 pm
Scotland’s Oil baled out Maggie Thatcher but extent has been underplayed / written out of UK history.
link to theguardian.com
Yoons still saying Covid deaths higher in Scotland and in Care Homes.
This is not the case: link to coronavirus.data.gov.uk
Seasonal excess deaths in England much higher than in Scotland which destroys arguments that care home deaths are twice as bad in Scotland.
link to euromomo.eu
Scroll to bottom of page to see the much higher spike in England
This is worth a quick read.
link to truepublica.org.uk
Famous15 9.42am
I see you asking someone to “hurry up”
Who are you asking to hurry up?
Could it be that you are coming round to the more common view that Sturgeon IS dragging her heels when it comes to delivering Independence?
Like Capella, you think the sun shines out of Sturgeon’s arse, but you are now admitting that people like me have been right all along and Sturgeon is an uninterested gradualist who sees Independence is an interruption to her Gravy Train.
Is it safe?
Yes & No – This virus is deadly to the weak, the old and the ill and they should continue to isolate for a wee while yet while getting as much fresh air and sunlight as is possible – for everyone else it is the scam of the Century. This is a flu, no more, no less. I have come to the conclusion that there is no point getting sucked into the ‘science’ as it achieves nothing – people have chosen their side by now, so the debate, for me, is over.
The next phase in the scam is face masks (I suspect trades unions will be one of the vehicles for this), then mandatory vaccinations – of course, the fascists on here will be loving that, I bet they just cant wait to see people dragged from their homes and injected with Bill Gates new formula for ‘their safety’ (Bill Gates, btw, a man on record championing population reduction and blood on is hands in the form of child deaths in India and Africa while funding SAGE and Imperial College idiots like Neil Ferguson – little wonder then that an Italian Politician stood up in Parliament and demanded the arrest of the criminal Gates)
There is no stopping this now. Peaceful protest will have the same effect it had on the Iraq War – zero.
Many years form now, when your kids can’t have kids, remember this moment and the part you played.
There is only one hope and that is the Yanks, who despite decades of relentless pressure, managed to keep a hold of their weapons.
And if you think I’m nuts, so is swimming around, frog like, in a pot that is slowly being boiled.
It seems that Cummings is claiming to have made extensive enquiries as to whether it was safe or not, before embarking on his journey.
link to tinyurl.com
The SNP government have to demand that the conservative msps sitting in Holyrood demand the resignation of cummings, they were quick to demand the resignation of Calderwood, if the Conservative party don’t do it Scotland should dissolve the Union go on our own again, another P- – -k who should resign is Boredom Brewer what an absolutely useless unionist Pratt.
If the UK gov are unwilling to admit the real level of covid deaths when there are so many excess deaths, how can we possibly trust them with the infection level now. They have lifted lockdown and any increase will be seen as a mistake, expect some rewriting of the rules as per the Cummings ordeal to vindicate any outcome.
The Tories in Scotland are apparently in twitter lockdown, no tweets for over a day from any of them. Possible JC is just doing an artwork inventory, you’ve got to keep an eye on the goods.
@Millennium says:
24 May, 2020 at 8:47 am
twathater 3.26am
“Dens of Iniquity that are nothing more than a cover for… mass orgies…”
Where do I sign up?
ahundredthidiot
You’re another one who appears keen to endanger the public in order to punt your personal politics. Medical science and practice takes time to develop, so we need to rely on ethics and practical reason to guide us through uncertainty. That means we need the “precautionary principle” like never before.
Evidence Based Management Guideline for the COVID-19 Pandemic – Review article
link to ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Fiona Hyslop snapped back a few times at Brewer this morning. He didn’t like it one little bit. I feared, once or twice,he was about to spit the dummy.
@millenium,hundredidiots et al. I am tempted to say “Yawn”. BUt you ,of course many of you have already adopted that slogan.
BTW Millenium do not put words into my mouth as that is unhealthy.
All persons of wit and wisdom in Scotland, please hurry up in gaining independence.
You know it makes sense.
I presume everyone in England who was fined for breaking lockdown by having someone over now can claim the money back as long as they were dancing to an ABBA song at some point, possibly ‘One of Us’ and considered it ‘safeguarding’ their mental health.
Famous15. 10.34am
It’s punters like you, with as much backbone as a wet paper bag, that are holding up Independence, with your blind support for the utterly useless Sturgeon.
So don’t start passing the buck onto people who can see through the Sturgeon Strategy of, one step forward, three back.
Just watched Tory Grant Shaps on the main propaganda channel
Attempt to tell the public that we are too dumb to understand the lockdown
Directives and our understanding of English words are wrong and the whole
Oxford dictionary will now need to be rewritten to get Dom Cummings off.
FFS
Famous15
spoiler alert – Scotland will never see Her Independence, so don’t wait up.
We had our chance in 2014, we blew it. It still sticks in my craw that the postal vote was very likely rigged and enough to swing it, but hey ho, the Brits were just smarter than us.
The open goal of the last 3 years has not been taken – there is no desire within the current SNP for Independence, NS has betrayed us all.
Meanwhile, Scotland now has one of the longest lockdowns in Europe – and it isn’t being lifted on Thursday, nor the Thursday after that, nor the one after that.
The result will be this – SNP vote will tumble – if people like me will no longer vote for them (I have voted for no other Party in nearly 40 years of voting and cancelled my/our memberships before Xmas) what chance have they got? – None.
Unless a new Party makes a meteoric rise, it’s over, it’s all over. Make your peace with it by accepting it (the final and most rewarding stage of dealing with Loss being acceptance).
The Brits have won.
Famous15
I pretty sure you’re talking sense. 😉
@ahundrethidiot
That’s a lot of words for ‘the debate is over’.
link to youtube.com
Famous15. 10.34am
I think you will find the biggest “Yawn” will come after we hear you utter those words “we must trust in Nicola”
Famous15,,,,, another Flat Earther and Sturgeon apologist.
Richard Leonard bumping his gums about care home transfers from hospitals in March.
All four governments in UK, INCLUDING LABOUR IN WALES, were spooked by UK medical predictions that their would be 250,000 hospital cases and took the callous /difficult decision to free up hospital spaces and elderly patients who were deemed fit enough ( but not tested as throughout UK there was insufficient capacity) were discharged back to community o care homes as appropriate.
Labour and Tories should stop playing politics over what was an ethical issue facing public health officials in all four parts of the UK. Easy to be wise in hindsight.
Had we been independent rather than being in thrall to London being the font of all knowledge we could have followed Ireland’s example and saved 2000 deaths by locking down earlier but we didn’t have the financial powers to compensate workers and businesses.
@Millenium I can safely say that my backbone was strongly and effectively used in the cause of independence long before you were born.
Like everyone I have some doubts about the SNP but as yet no hard facts. I resigned from the SNP some time ago because they sacrificed future employment to pacify the Greens and I see other issues slipping to make for a quiet life.
Independence is the normal and natural state for a country and not subservience to witless clowns in a neighbouring country.
Famous15
When Cameron Brodie,,the site loony,,,starts backing you up, then that is when you know you are Rubber Ducked.
I think you have already been pointed towards joining the LibDems website,,,I would give it a go if I were you, it’s more suited to your types.
“It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change.”
– Charles Darwin
So we had the Scottish Tories up in arms about the Nike story…
Well unfortunately timing is everything in the revelation of shocking stories and with this Cummings scandal there is a story in The Times that is not being given the attention it should….
A story that far diminishes the contrived faux outrage being promoted by Tories in Scotland and their undercover Tory Ian Murray…..who jointly pushed the Nike Conference story.
Piers Morgan tweeted the following :
“The Sunday Times #Insight investigation into how Boris Johnson’s dithering on lockdown cost 1000s of lives is utterly devastating. If you’ve been blindly supporting him & the Govt during this crisis, read this article & then decide if you still want to. It’s shocking”.
The story documents how BorisJohnson was too slow with taking coronavirus seriously that led to 1.5 million people being infected by the time of lockdown. Far MORE than any other country.
Perhaps this additional revelation should keep the Scottish Tory politicians in Twitter lockdown for an even more extended period…giving time to reflect on their hypocrisy and undeserved loyalty to a leader most of them didn’t vote for in the Tory leadership election and don’t even like !
Yet now they all kneel at the altar of Boris….and just like Brexit they cast aside previous supposed strong positions to adapt to whatever HQ demands…..and Ruth Davidson is one of the worst culprits….given credit by the media for what?…..denying everything that she previously promoted as right just to uphold unity in the Tory party…..and Jackson Carlaw should look at Tory supporters in Scotland and UK if he wants to see a “cult” following.
No more should we have to listen to the calculated outrage from Jackson Carlaw, Ruth Davidson and their useless elected (undeservedly) MP’s when THEIR party are clearly incompetent and blatantly corrupt ……Tory uber alles irrespective of all the stories exposing their incompetence and deception to benefit Tory donors and the Tory party over the people they are supposed to support and protect.
If Brexit, constant cover ups, incompetence and mismanagement does not end the Union then one wonders WTF will it take before some of those currently living in Scotland finally say enough is enough !
ps. Gordon Brewer and Politics Scotland fooled no one today with the Elephant in the Room programme….a classic look over here not over there addition of their damage limitation Unionist exercise ….par for the course with the BBC closing ranks with a party of the Union……so transparent in the omission of THE story of the day that it insulted the Scots viewers intelligence……as per
Millenium what nonsense now.You are not even rational. Your get the man not the ball sort of way is not clever.
However I do not think your mission needs cleverness does it? Nudge,nudge,wink,wink.
Famous15
If you die before seeing an independent Scotland, then blame no one else other than Nicola Sturgeon,,,,,and of course yourself, for blindly supporting her “not in my lifetime” approach towards Scottish Independence.
Millenium you are fixated with Nicola Sturgeon. I am not.
I see independence as a necessity. I do not know or care what you see or desire as I suspect we are on different planets or at least have different goals.
“When Cameron Brodie,,the site loony,,,starts backing you up, then that is when you know you are Rubber Ducked.”
Millennium
Your yoon persona couldn’t hide for long, and neither could your personal clown-shoes. 😉
Talk Evidence – Building an evidence base for covid-19
link to soundcloud.com
Famous15
I have probably done more in a day to than you have in your lifetime in our fight for Independence
Do you believe Nicola Sturgeon is the person who will lead us to Independence???
FFS
Here we go again.
“You’re no a Sturgeon supporter, so you MUST be a Yoon”
Geez fuckin peace
Fuckin hell,,,getting stalked by Famous15 and Cam B first thing on a Sunday morning,,,who left the cell doors open and let these two beauties roam the streets unattended???
Here’s one for folk with a bit of time on their hands, and a need to spot political fakes.
Reasoning Independently of Prior Belief and Individual Differences in Actively Open-Minded Thinking
link to keithstanovich.com
Nuff said, i think!
Sturgeon has caused this split in the Yes Movement, all done by design, and it’s up to everyone of us, individually, whether to follow her lead, or choose a more direct path to Independence with new leadership.
I’m all for the latter.
IMO Sturgeon is a dud, a damp squib.
In other words,,,, useless.
CBB takes Mediawirenews as Gospel
I live in the countryside on an island, I want to get off it and go to my hometown Glasgow more than anything, all this open space on the island is great but it’s just an open prison if you can’t get off it.
So Sarah Smith, you know the seething treacherous unionist, who couldn’t contain her disappointment that Alex Salmond wasn’t locked up for good can use the word honourable as in the Honourable Sarah Smith because her mother is a baroness. Her mother is Baroness of Gilmorehill.
In my opinion there’s nothing remotely honourable about Smith the junior, unless of course you take into account her selling out Scotland at the behest of a foreign nation a nation that sees her as honourable in doing so.
The English media which we are if not forced to watch, then subjected to is jam packed with Judas Scots that are only too willing to put down Scotland and Scots to keep on receiving their tainted gold coins from a foreign nation that has drained Scotland of its wealth and used its people as cannon fodder in its unjust wars for centuries.
https://www.thenational.scot/news/18471637.bbc-failed-nation-yet—alternative-sources-look-like/
Famous15
You didn’t answer my question,,,
“Do you believe Nicola Sturgeon is the person who will lead us to Independence?”
Millenium one more thought. We have all seen that Glaswegian hero in a three lions tap shouting “Stick yer independence up yer arse”
Well,like you he thinks he is doing wonders for Unionism.Really working his socks off for his cause.
Just think about it!
I remember going to see ‘Rollerball’ in 1975, the IMBD storyline description is.
In a futuristic society where corporations have replaced countries, the violent game of Rollerball is used to control the populace by demonstrating the futility of individuality
This is the dream of those like Dominic Cummings, countries are irrelevant, it’s ownership that matters. Whilst we don’t have Rollerball we have plenty of other mindless distractions like Eastenders and Olympics.
Bogus journalists hitting the roof when White House Press Secretary announced re-opening of places of worship. Media up to no good. I’m not the religious type but I do see that as good news. All the hard line punish the heretic types here are secretly embarrassed by their blue funk. Steve Crowders Wallace sketch is sadly hilariously spot on.Poor Patrick he must be an SNP semen repository.
I’m not an agent provocateur, nor cognitively dogmatic. I am critical of the both the SNP and the Scottish government though, as neither supports international human rights law. This is an inescapable consequence of viewing the world through the pathology of British constitutional law, and can be described in two words, LEGAL PAROCHIALISM.
link to nathanaelmu.com
Looks like a totally Tory free zone in Scotland.
BBC Scotland nope not a one
Brewer and the rest of the crew down at Pacific Heights scrabbling around this morning looking for something , anything that’s a SNP shite story and embarrassing themselves in the process .
I don’t do Twater but anyone that does let the rest of us know if any Tory is at home , have they all left the fkn country and in the process been struck dumb , WHY THE SILENCE ? .
@ahundredth idiot
Appears to me that the extended house arrest errs on the side of caution by allowing extra time to observe any reduction in infections in countries that have reopened ‘early’ in the hope that it is/was an overhyped seasonal illness.. thus mitigaitng the possiblity that international organisations have acted with integrity throughout after all!
Better yet, in light of recent disclosures about the likely inheritance of .guv’s chief spinner, one silver lining of the extended lockdown is that the Procurator Fiscal’s office may now have a window of opportunity to display consistency, if not integrity, by seeking extradition – ie on charges of attempted murder with premeditation – of certain government officials in the event that their English counterparts are not yet up to speed with the intent doctrine that the UK Supreme Court submitted to last year.
Concern troll,
In an argument (usually a political debate), a concern troll is someone who is on one side of the discussion, but pretends to be a supporter of the other side with “concerns”.
The idea behind this is that your opponents will take your arguments more seriously if they think you’re an ally.
Concern trolls who use fake identities are sometimes known as sockpuppets.
Famous15
Squirrels and deflection doesn’t hide your
Support for Sturgeon
You are a Flat Earther Sturgeonista.
I know you don’t like admitting that in public, but that is what you are.
Shutting up and doing what you’re told is not a proud Scot.
Saw this article, which originally came from the Scotsman:
The Sixth Nordic country
I wonder what is wrong with the Scotsman publishing such an indy-friendly article. Is it about they are going to get Scottish government money?
Some would have us believe that First Minister is innocently unwittingly surrounded by Agents of London that she ‘knows nothing’ as her civil service and party members pursued an innocent man through the corrupt courts. Nicola Sturgeon micro manages the SNP or I’ll eat my feldmutze.