His Majesty’s Loyal Sabre
Funny how people change, isn’t it?
That sounds a lot to us like “Bombs Not Bairns”.
We watched the first episode of “The Wargame” at 2am this morning (it’s toe-curlingly bad, shot like a soft-focus corporate promo with three-second cuts, constant dramatic music and the politicians delivering wooden press-conference soundbites rather than any sense of what an actual high-tension COBRA meeting would sound like).
And one of the things that leaps right out at you is how much Sturgeon yearns to control armed forces, rather than just piddling around with schools and hospitals and potholes in a devolved administration. She’s clearly thrilled to even be PRETENDING to be in the British government with the boys and girls from the big school.
But her remaining diehard fanbase in the SNP will surely be at least a little disturbed to hear her talk in the interviews for the show.
Firstly, this isn’t actually true. The incident in June involved a Russian frigate firing WARNING shots NEAR a yacht. (It was only 500 yards away, so it was unlikely to have missed if it had been firing ON them.)
But we digress.
When UK politicians regularly bleat that we need to spend more money on defence – and we’re currently in the middle of one such propaganda onslaught, of which “The Wargame” is a part – they’re never very clear on precisely who or what it is that the country needs defending AGAINST.
Russia clearly isn’t mounting a land or sea attack on the UK any time soon. (And nor is anyone else.) It’s been stuck in a stalemate against Ukraine for almost half a decade, at a catastrophic cost in lives and materiel, and as a result is very poorly-placed to be attempting to advance any further west. Nobody sane expects any sort of definitive military outcome to the war in the foreseeable future.
Nevertheless, Sturgeon warns that “the UK’s conventional defences” are lacking, and she’s clear to draw a distinction between those and its nuclear ones.
But if you’re going to have a war with Russia, mass destruction is the only kind of destruction that’s any use. “The Wargame” itself makes the point very early on that the UK’s conventional forces would be burned up in a matter of days in a shooting war with the Russians. (Ukraine’s military is 6-8 times larger than the UK’s.)
In WW2 the Soviet Union absorbed unimaginable losses during Operation Barbarossa. At its peak the Nazi invasion occupied almost 700,000 square miles of Soviet territory, and around 7 million Soviet troops were killed or captured from the start of the invasion in June 1941 to the German surrender at Stalingrad in February 1943.
And as the USSR eventually won that battle, it follows that you need to hurt Russia more than that if you want to win a war against it, and nuclear weapons are the only way you even have a chance of achieving that aim, or of dissuading them from trying in the first place.
(For the avoidance of doubt, Wings is very much NOT advocating a nuclear war, or any other kind of war, with Russia – merely pointing out that if you’re saying Russia is your military enemy, “conventional” forces aren’t going to cut the mustard.)
But then Sturgeon says something really weird.
The only possible rational interpretation of that paragraph is that she’s talking about “covert” warfare here – cyber attacks and so on. But an aircraft carrier is no more use against a cyber attack than a nuclear submarine is, so why’s she rattling on about conventional armed forces?
In truth Sturgeon is just saying what she’s been told to say to please the right-wing militarist lobby that’s currently demanding a big hike in defence spending – and, since government funds are finite, usually a corresponding reduction in welfare spending.
You can’t spend the same money on bombs AND bairns, after all.
The SNP has always had a hawkish faction, usually personified by former Glasgow MP Stewart McDonald.
But Sturgeon always shunned it publicly, leaning on the SNP’s well-worn slogan.
Now that she’s left office under something of a cloud and scuttled off to London without securing the grand European quango job she hankered after, though, and needs a source of income until her chunky First Minister pension kicks in, all that’s out the window and it’s “Britain needs more tanks and fighter jets and battleships, actually”.
But then, we suppose all that high-level protection comes at a price.
Agent Sturgeon would certainly be best placed to defend mother England from the Orcs. Wouldn’t take much to perfect the Shir Shaun accent either.
Plus, doing a number on Salmond and Murrell would surely qualify her for Double-Oh status?
British Bulldog china mugs all round I’d say, what-what!
Double agent rather than Double Oh, no?
“the USSR eventually won that battle”
Helped by enormous gifts of material and money from the Yanks. Plus a second front on the ground, and a third front in the air (the bomber offensive) from the Allies for the Germans to contend with.
Helped too by intelligence from the Brits, who by tipping off Mos cow that the Japs had no intention of invading the USSR from the east, freed up Soviet armies for transfer to the west to fight the Germans.
Any country wishing to win a war in 2026 needs stockpiles of around a million throwaway drones plus a million capable drone interceptors. Plus the industrial capacity to churn out tens of thousands per month of both.
So by that measure neither the UK nor Scotland could do anything other than unconditionally surrender if we found ourselves attacked without allies willing to help us.
As for “Benefits, not Defence”, without the latter there won’t be any former.
I would say Sturgeon is doing no more than stating the truths no politician can ever state while in office, if they are subject to the whims of an ill-educated, unsophisticated, not very bright electorate.
Also, any politician who has held high office experiences a sea change in attitudes, knowing that he/she is a target for liquidation in a way the average voter never is.
Decapitate the snake and all that.
Uk is certainly behind the curve. But not out of the game.
This is what Trent Telenko, formerly in the Department of Defence in USA, posts on X
“Trent Telenko
@TrentTelenko
Now you know one of the reasons why Putin has a hate on for the UK.
@wartranslated
WarTranslated
@wartranslated
16 Aug
The Times says Ukraine has been using UK-made Nyan jet drones for deep strikes inside Russia over the past six months, including hits on refineries in Volgograd and Yaroslavl.
Sources say they can fly close to 1000km, are cheaper than Western missiles..”
I’m no fan of the orcs, but Stalingrad happened before any second land front had opened up. The Germans only lasted as long as they did because Britain and America were tied up with the Japanese.
Russia also lost the 1939 winter war against Finland. Russia are unlikely to invade the UK, but the UK has defence commitments with NATO, and with JEF (Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and the Netherlands) some of which are much more likely targets, indeed some of which have been harassed by Russian aircraft and ships. we Currently have troops in Norway and Latvia and we ought to have the resources to support those troops.
USSR won the Winter War and in a move that parallels their ambition in Ukraine, seized 10% of Finland’s territory to strengthen their defensive position while severing access to the sea at Petsamo. This seizure remains Russian territory today.
More brilliant journalism from Stu, cutting through the keech in the MSM and delivering the hard facts on multiple fronts.
No surprise really, Agent Nicla is very much ‘establishment’ and like the other Fabians will be shilling for Mair Dakka to feed the ravenous Waaaaaagh! musheen (which, ironically, the Fabian warmongers have been systematically dismantling for the past 35 years).
Like Global Warming, national debt/deficit, the EU, the Coof etc it’s the political Flavour Of The Month and it will all go away after a few months and be replaced with another political plaything to occupy their miniscule attention spans, leaving the rest of the country to continue its decay into liquid jobbies.
Thatcher doesn’t get a look in. What an evil piece. I sincerely hope that Paul gets to the truth and brings the whole lot down.
Not everything is about Thatcher, unless you’re the early ’90s Ben Elton whose repertoire largely consisted of his shouting “Fatcher!” in a stupid voice. Maybe that was why he was so crap?
I note that she says she hopes that the show “..sparks a debate about whether the country is properly prepared.” I wonder which country she means?
Saw a War Game publicity shot of madam this afternoon online – she was standing in front of the Butchers Apron. Safe to say her country is The United Kingdom of Great Britain and NI.
“Russia is not starting a war by actually starting a war.
Russia is starting a war by not really starting a war, and when we catch them out and correctly accuse them of starting a war, they will deny it. Just you wait – that’s what they’ll do.
So the key thing to keep an eye out for is when we say they started a war and they deny it. Then it’s on. We’re at war with Russia.”
Logical, undeniably true and flawless.
Russia will also destroy our economy and make it look like we did it to ourselves. Another rock solid sign that we need to have a war with Russia.
When all else fails, have a war.
The first responsibility of any government is defence of the realm.
This is whether it is Scotland, the UK or any other country, everything comes second to defending the country as a duty for the government.
The UK in the worldwide top ten of defence budgets but as a state, it can’t even maintain it’s borders.
Defence of the realm has many meanings. Wouldn’t it be better for the UK to be diverting resources to Border control and other agencies so that people who come to this country are known and vetted before they are allowed to set foot here?
Thats the reason the 2013 referendum was nobbled DOTR
Government funds are not finite
Not according to the Fabians who are rife across the major political parties, including those that are purportedly “Conservative”.
The past 30 years have been testimony to that.
Sounds like MMT, the Sovereign Citizen theory of economics.
There’s a finite amount of resources they can seize.
An infinite amount of money they can print.
But you can’t eat money. People tried in Zimbabwe. Didn’t work. There are no free lunches.
Having moved to London she will be concerned about the possibility of her new home being nuked.
All this lends substantive support to the belief that she was «mole»
How many more are there?
Could be Holyrood is full of them.
I see the State asset said she had turned down an offer to go onto Dancing on Ice TV show. More like she was too full of herself to realise that the appearance fee she had demanded couldn’t be justified by the shows producers.
She would have been quite good as she has been skating on thin ice for years !
Yeah lol.
The State asset will be doing the run of the reality TV shows in the near future once the real life reality of the cost of her fancy London living hits home.
“The SNP has always had a hawkish faction,”
That’s a polite way of saying “MI5 bumboys”
The State asset says that the TV show she got a fee to appear in exposes ‘our’ threadbare defences. What ‘our’ means is any bodies guess.
There’s been articles in the likes of the Mail that the country she is referring to as the enemy is going to invade us in coming weeks. Those were from a month or two ago.
Conventional power between major powers isn’t the reality for the 21st century interconnected world. The current Trump’s war has shown that.
It will involve regional wars that won’t be allowed to escalate beyond certain points. For a mid size state like the UK, the way forward is to form strategic alliances like what they are currently doing with Japan and not waste money on a hypothetical war against a supposed enemy who has no interest in invading and couldn’t anyway even if it wanted to.
“There’s been articles in the likes of the Mail that the country she is referring to as the enemy is going to invade us in coming weeks”
Naw. There hasn’t been.
Go back to school and learn to read properly.
At the very least, it says it will be Autumn this year. It’s Autumn now, where are the signs of the tanks rolling across the European plains?
Don’t be stupid, it’s the usual nonsense since the Cold war of the Red threat used by the military and other agencies to get a bigger share of the funding pie.
As I said, we are spending massive amounts of money on the military and if enough people swallow the rhetoric then it will be even more yet the UK can’t even do something as basic as securing our borders.
“At the very least, it says it will be Autumn this year”
What will be in autumn this year?
You started off saying “us”, we, are going to be invaded. Now you’re wittering on about tanks rolling across the European plains.
Nobody is making any claims other than that there might be provocations. Deniable cyber incidents. Mysterious arson attacks. Drones going “off course”. Ships “dragging anchors” across cables. Perhaps troops crossing a border into an Orc-speaking enclave. Not a tank in sight.
Why can’t you disengage your ego, admit you got it wrong, and then we can all move on?
@Hatey – yes they have. Even the most glib media browser will not have failed to notice over the past 9 months the consistent British MSM daily narrative of “We/Europe face imminent invasion from Roosia”, particularly in the Daily Mail who have been exceptionally active (as usual) in fearporn articles fetishizing warmongering.
Such hysterical nonsense is completely 180 degrees out of phase with the facts that Roosia are bogged down in a years-long stalemate war of attrition with no obvious end goal nor endgame and that, as noted above, modern warfare has changed.
Aye Hatey, you’re a slippery one when you want to be 🙂
Okay, lets look at it this way. The rhetoric has been going on that the UK is personally threatened by the current conflict to the East of Europe and that we should be getting more involved. This rhetoric is mentioned in this article.
Do you believe that the UK will be militarily attacked by that country and our population could be in danger?
@ Bilbo says: 21 September, 2026 at 8:27 pm
“Do you believe that the UK will be militarily attacked by that country and our population could be in danger?”
I believe it’s a non-zero probability. I outlined some possible scenarios that experts whose opinions I rate are talking about in my previous post.
You also have to define what you mean by “militarily attacked”. States don’t always deploy uniform-wearing troops, tanks, jeeps or helicopter gunships to carry out acts of aggression.
Whoever you believe blew Nordstream, do you think they were in uniform or sporting regimental insignia when they set sail?
Take the Leipzig Airport drone. Capable of destroying a plane on the ground, or bringing one down if in the air. Casualties potentially ranging from both pilots to hundreds of civilians, depending on what the crashing plane hit.
Could you please now have a word with Spartan. Even as you’ve been backing off from your original claim, he’s upped the ante to claim “consistent British MSM daily narrative of “We/Europe face imminent invasion from Roosia””.
According to Spartan, this has been going on daily for 9 months!
Right, so I’ve been imagining all those hysterical MSM articles then, all these past few months, like that Star Trek episode “The Inner Light”.
@ Spartan Spartan 117
Like this imaginary one:
link to archive.is
Hatey is a wily old fox, let him bark, he loves the sound of his own voice.
Ah, Bilbo, if you weren’t such a fucking arse, you’d be worth debating with.
There’s absolutely nothing stopping you from cutting and pasting from that article where it says “the enemy is going to invade us in coming weeks”.
Nothing, that is, other than that the article says no such thing.
And Spartan can, of course, cut and paste from an article that says “We/Europe face imminent invasion from Roosia”, except, equally of course, he can’t, because no such article exists in any MSM publication.
There’s no point telling you both to go back to school and learn to read properly. It’s too fucking late for that.
Typical hysterical, hyperbolic, over exaggeration from you both. It must be something in that much vaunted Scottish Water that turns so many Scots into raving fantasists.
Hatey, Hatey. Temper, temper, nobody likes a sore loser.
The Guardian article that I had posted is nonsense but it is symptomatic of the nudge behaviour articles that is pushing the agenda that we are going to be attacked that myself and Spartan is talking about.
It is the same nudge behaviour articles that had softened up the population of the world, including here in the UK, to willingly accept Covid lockdowns that you so fondly go on a lot about now despite it happening years ago.
I look forward to your reply 🤣 🤣 🤣
Here’s how to turn yourself into a winner, Bilbo.
Link to one MSM article that says “the enemy is going to invade us in coming weeks”. Bonus points for “tanks rolling across the European plains”.
Your words, quoted from your posts. Put up or shut up.
Or as the culturally colonised like to say, shit, or get off the pot.
@Hatey, I have just posted a list of 11 articles from a single MSM outlet alone over a 7 day period.
Its been snared by the moderator (unsurprisingly).
A likely story, Spartan 🙂
Why not mention an article by name, date and location. If it’s still online it should be findable.
As it’s often easy to forget how these online spats started, remember the article has to support the “consistent British MSM … narrative of “We/Europe face imminent invasion””.
You’ll need to ask Stu to release my post from the mod queue then, because I ain’t typing it all out yet again.
Failing that, be a clever Laddie and use a search engine rather than being spoon fed.
Hint:- a search on Daily Mail Online for “Ru**ia” brings up countless articles referencing what has been discussed here. Using that method, from the past 7 days I counted 11 alone referencing directly threats of invasion of the UK or EU and one alleging interference in the upcoming US midterm. Other similarly dubious sites will no doubt return similar results.
As it happens, Spartan, I’m on the DM Online site most days (well of course I am).
I’m moderately, no, very confident I’d have noticed stories about invasion of the UK. At least partly because I’d have been intensely interested to know what method was being suggested – airdrop, seaborne, submarine, hijack of a civilian vessel, escorted troop carrying aircraft breaking into the circuit at Heathrow, etc.
I think you’re havering.
Or at the very least, have your own personal meaning of “invasion”.
I think we all know who’s havering. It’s the one who keeps spam-posting all day, every day BTL.
Gie it a rest min.
You got it, Stu. Your site, your rules.
A whole lot of comments and everybody and their dug sees that Hatey is talking mince but has too much ego to let go.
Aye, very entertaining 🤣 🤣 🤣
Here you are again, Bilbo, just for your dug:
“Link to one MSM article that says “the enemy is going to invade us in coming weeks”. Bonus points for “tanks rolling across the European plains”.
Your words, quoted from your posts. Put up or shut up.
Or as the culturally colonised like to say, shit, or get off the pot.”
As for Spartan:
“Spartan can, of course, cut and paste from an article that says “We/Europe face imminent invasion from Roosia”, except, equally of course, he can’t, because no such article exists in any MSM publication”
These are simple challenges. Easy to answer. Trivial to prove I’m talking mince.
Alert readers can’t fail to notice you’re failing to deliver.
Maybe ask yer dugs fer help?
Sigh. Ok Hatey, here you go, you asked. Just a few headlines from the past four days:-
“Unprecedented threat’ of Ru**ian aggression in space ‘could wipe out UK’s sat-nav and GPS systems’ and cost us £1.4billion a day, head of RAF warns” – DM online, 23/09/26
“The three things stirring on Ru**ia’s border that make me believe PooTin is on the brink of a catastrophic move: MARK ALMOND” – DM online, 22/09/26
“Senior NATO commander warns PooTin is becoming more cavalier and open to risk as Uk****e war drags on” – DM online, 22/09/26
“Ru**ia could launch attack on N**O within ‘months not years’, Western spy chiefs warn – DM online, 21/09/26
“European spy chiefs say Ru**ia campaign against N**O could be ‘months, not years’ away in grim warning” – DM online, 20/09/26
“Badenoch accuses Burnham of `fiddling´ while PooTin threatens to burn Europe” – DM online, 19/09/26
“US nooclear submarines step in to defend crucial European sea cables from sabotage – amid warnings PooTin is preparing to attack Europe” – DM online, 19/09/26
“British mil sites were targeted by drones hundreds of times in last year, new figures show as tensions rise with Ru**ia and I**n” – DM online, 19/09/26
“Ru**ia plotting to deploy sinister new AI we@p0n to meddle in US elections, officials warn just WEEKS before midterms” – DM online, 18/09/26
Just a small selection, with innumerable more.
Ergo, you are talking keech. Quad Erad Demonstrandum.
Man, Spartan, I’m gonna have to learn Gaelic, maybe Esperanto, perhaps “learn your alphabet with Sock Puppets”.
Not one of the headlines you list says anything about invasions. Only one of them, the second, talking about events close to borders, suggests somebody might be about to cross an international border, I.e. invade.
Your words: “We/Europe face imminent invasion”.
Do you really need the sock puppets to explain that your claim isn’t backed up by the examples you’ve provided?
What do you think is going on in Ir@n right now? No invasion, but a humongous war. Can’t you see virtually all the examples you provide are postulating the same scenario in Europe?
Stop being lazy/deliberately obtuse and READ THE FUCKING ARTICLES.
Twat.
I think I’m seeing what you’re getting at, Hatester.
You’re saying that we’re now in a time where it is possible for two countries to go to war with neither country requiring to deploy any land forces for combat purposes?
Oh man. Something is telling me that our species will prove to be the cause of its own undoing… 😐
Check out the big brain on Minceheid!
If I lend you my sock puppets starter set, any chance you could try explaining it to Spartan?
It’ll be ideal if you’re already qualified to work with what we must now all refer to as the neuro diverse.
Ach, that’s what all the quines say 🙂
Honestly, I’d only just figured all of that stuff out because it’s not like the people in my field didn’t see all of this coming some twenty years ago. You know?
Nae fancy piece for you, min. You’ll get a saft Rich Tea and you’ll like it 🙂
I’m an amiable man (sometimes) and I refuse to rob you of the pleasure. That would be inconsiderate, no?
To be honest I’m probably a bit neurosketchy myself so I don’t think that I’m the person for the job. No, I’m just an electronic engineer who can design you a slinky bespoke embedded system that’ll leave you
brokefair chuffed. You can even choose the colour of the LEDs and stuff 🙂Best go to SpecSavers MH.
Any “quine” quoting Samuel L Jackson in Pulp Fiction has to be 60 at least.
Ach, now you’ve reminded me of my auld flatmate who kept playing the fecking soundtrack album over and over to the point where I just about hoofed the stereo out of the window. Those were good days, man 🙂
When did social security in this country become ‘welfare’? So we have to copy EVERYTHING from America? ‘Welfare’ has derogatory, decades-old negative connotations, about ‘welfare queens’ and such shite.
Then again…suppose it’s on point, with the warmongers spitting contempt and fractured societal blame on the poor. As you were.
As so many of “the poor” consist of those impoverished millions and their dependents who have flooded into the country this century, it’s on point to blame societal fracture on them.
What, did you really believe they’re all surgeons, IT specialists, entrepreneurs and recording artists?
Of course, a major objective behind their “unstoppable” import has been to depress wages, and inflate property and rent prices. So, yes, it would be fair to also blame the politicians of all stripes who have deliberately engineered this to happen.
“So we have to copy EVERYTHING from America?”
It’s cultural and linguistic colonialism. It’s everywhere in Scotland and it’s ingrained in the populace. If only we had a learned professor who knew a thing or two about colonialism, we could debate about it.
“It’s cultural and linguistic colonialism. It’s everywhere in Scotland and it’s ingrained in the populace”
Weel spattit Hatey, keep up wi the guid wirk. Though its usually referred to as cultural/linguistic ‘imperialism’, a subject on which there is plentiful theory:
link to yoursforscotlandcom.wordpress.com
Very true, Alf. One of the giveaways by which we recognise the culturally and linguistically colonised is when they insist on using ‘z’ instead of ‘s’.
The US “colonized”, rather than the correct Scottish “colonised”, for example.
Ring any bells?
Of course, we can’t tell whether they are genuinely unaware of the difference, whether they have deliberately set out to flog their books into the much more lucrative US market, or perhaps if they simply just don’t know how to configure their word processing software (and spell checker) for geographic locale.
It’s been known as the welfare state since Beveridge.
Correct, but don’t let trivial things like facts and logic get in the way of a good unhinged rant.
True but calling social security ‘welfare’ is a relatively recent US import and in the UK is often used with negative connotations not far removed from ‘scrounger’.
@RevStu – it’s a bit restrictive that Ru**ia is a term that attracts a pre-mod on a post on this particular thread. The worst offenders appear to be mercifully silent for now, perhaps you might relax this restriction?
Probably to deter the usual headbangers who post lengthy diatribes following their daily raid on the COSHH cabinet and subsequent binge imbibing of Meths, IPA, WD40, Denso, Araldite or whatever other intoxicating substances they can lay their hands on.
I missed when she was going to be making no further statements.
🙂 🙂
My my my, and just how this wee dragon from Dreghorn cuts a new path with the London set.
Free from prosecution and the rule of law she’s a Thespian now, cutting a dash with ex Westminster Tory coke heads. She’s in good company, far far far from her clearly despised homeland. But London always did have a place in its heart for those who did well in the service of empire.
Ah well, one is recognised by the company one keeps. But something tells me her protected position might not last for ever. Her utility is done and in true and tested tradition her exile will I am sure come to a sticky end.
Nicola Sturgeon has always been a hairy wee thespian.
Is it an indicator that Nicola can deliver lines in a drama?
She doesn’t seem to mind who is the author!
‘An Act of Monumental Cultural and Educational Vandalism’
(Mike Small, BellaCaledonia, 21 Sept 2026)
« “There is a loss of any vestiges that the University of Edinburgh conceives of itself as primarily a Scottish institution.” – Alec Finlay.
You could argue that this process began a long time ago, but this is certainly its end-point.
More than 90 courses in the University of Edinburgh’s College of Arts, Humanities and Social Sciences (CAHSS) will close to new admissions from next year. As the Herald’s Edinburgh correspondent Josh Pizzuto-Pommaco wrote this week:
“Edinburgh University will close 90 programmes in its College of Arts, Humanities and Social Sciences (CAHSS). Despite being met with strong opposition from many academics and renewed industrial action from the UCU, the university has insisted that the cuts are a necessary “refresh” of its academic portfolio.”
[…] The following is the complete list (as far as we are aware) of courses being cut from Edinburgh University: […] »
link to bellacaledonia.org.uk
University of Edinburgh
CELTIC AND SCOTTISH STUDIES
Intro Webpage
link to llc.ed.ac.uk
The destruction of Scottish history, culture and language carries on apace.
As part of an extensive four day visit to Scotland, the visit reinforces how Ireland and Scotland are bound by strong ties of friendship, culture and language.
The Republic of Ireland was once, like Scotland a colony of England. After centuries of colonisation Ireland took its leave of the Great British Empire at a time when the empire was strong.
Today the Republic of Ireland is a prosperous well educated independent European country in Europe. Scotland along with the remaining British outpost in the North will do the same.
England is no longer an Empire. It is a country on the slide. And that is why the time is now coming where Scotland, like the Republic of Ireland, will take its leave.
Thig ar latha in Scots, or tiocfaidh ar la, as they say in Irish. Our day will come.
“the remaining British outpost in the North”
Forgive me for asking, Willie, but if by that you mean Northern Ireland, surely that’s a Scottish colony?
Why else would it be the settled view of so many Scots that if the island of Ireland is ever politically unified, hundreds of thousands of Northern Irish will up sticks and move back to their ancestral homeland – Scotland?
Tricky subject, colonisation, eh? Just when you think you’ve got it nailed down it bites you on the arse.
Theoretically, given what happened in the past when the Picts found themselves dealing with their own “Small Boat Crossings®” problem, could Irish reunification not lead to the converse situation of an efflux of Scottish folk relocating to their ancestral homeland of Ireland?
Aye, you can say that again 😐
I’m betting she’ll be in the next series of celebrity Traitors.
Dont know what happened to my post @ 01.41 but a chunk is missing.
Big fingers and small keyboard perchance but the bit that is missing was about the Irish president Katherine Connoly’s visit to Scotland during which time she visited Bute House and other before travelling to Skye to deliver in Irish the annual address to Sabhal Mor Ostaig.
By this visit, and as noted in the incomplete post, the largely unreported visit reinforced the ties of friendship, culture and shared history.
Funny old world really when a head of state visiting a country gets little mention in the media.
Asking 100 random Scots who “Katherine Connoly” is would probably produce interesting results.
The likely 10% or less who might know she is President of Ireland, might also know she prefers her name to be written as Catherine Connolly.
Funny old world, Willie, as you say.
She is more than shamless enough to be wishing to make history as the first SNP member of the House of Lords.
Will she not be expelled from the SNP if she does?
The only reason for expulsion from the SNP is oversealous advocacy of independence.’
«Extremism» they just hate it. .
“oversealous” TURABDIN?
You’ve taken the anti linguistic colonialism ‘s’ over ‘z’ rule too far!
It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if the real motivation for the State asset to appear in this TV reality show is to push the narrative of her being able to sit in the House of Lords.
She all but said it in the Times article that there is no contradiction in supporting Scottish independence and being pictured in front of the Butchers apron.
As to her position in the SNP, most of them in that party want the same so it won’t matter if does get into the House of Lords.
I’m not too bothered if Sturgeon appears on TV or in the House of Lords.
But I would like to see all the people responsible for the destruction of North Sea Oil & Gas in front of a firing squad. And if that includes Sturgeon, then so be it.
Read this, observe how many of our problems arose from deliberate policy decisions at WM and HR, and weep:
link to theguardian.com
‘Truth is like gravity it doesn’t care if you believe it or not’
Jordan Peterson
‘The narcissist’s biggest weakness is not your anger. It is your indifference.’
Ha! “If gravity is a narcissist, then my indifference weakens it away to nothing.” (Hatey)
And ‘if I click my heels together three times, I will go home’ (Dorothy Gale)
ÒRAID AN t-SABHAIL: CATHERINE CONNOLLY, Uachtarán na hÉireann | Sabhal Mòr Ostaig
Chaidh Òraid an t-Sabhail a thoirt seachad le Uachtarán Catherine Connolly, Ceann-suidhe na h-Èireann. Chaidh an Òraid a’ sruthadh beò bho Thalla Dhonaidh Chaimbeil, Sabhal Mòr Ostaig, aig 11.30m, Disathairne 19 Sultain 2026.
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The SABHAL MÒR OSTAIG ANNUAL LECTURE was given by CATHERINE CONNOLLY, President of Ireland. The Lecture was streamed live from Talla Dhonaidh Chaimbeil, Sabhal Mòr Ostaig at 11.30am, Saturday 19 September 2026
link to youtube.com
You got her name right. That’s a great start 🙂
@ Fearghas MacFhionnlaigh: duly registered.
Would you please put a link up for the crowdfunder as well? It has almost reached £19000 but needs a lot more. It would be easily reached if Wings supporters put in a fiver each…
Are the Ru**ians match funding any contribution?
Thanks Fheargais.
I was in Sleat a few days before the event but had to get home on the Monday of last week. Otherwise, I would have been at the Sabhal Mòr in person.
LIBERATION SCOTLAND: Watch SARA SALYERS talk at U.N. Geneva TODAY Sept 22nd
« Today (Sept 22nd) , our own Sara Salyers will represent the Scottish Liberation Movement at a U.N. side event in Geneva.
We need you to be part of this moment.
Sara will be speaking at the Geneva Press Club side event: “Strengthening international law through greater cooperation between the Human Rights Council and the UN General Assembly Fourth Committee.” She will be speaking directly to the institutional gap that has kept Scotland invisible at the UN – and she will be doing so as a representative of our Liberation movement, not as a voice from a region of the UK. This is a landmark moment.
Event details:
UN Side Event – Geneva Press Club, hosted by the European Public Law Organisation (EPLO)
Speakers – Sara Salyers (Liberation Scotland), Dr. Christophe Dorigné-Thomson (University Indonesia), Matilde Pacheco (Human Rights Defender) Moderator, Ambassador George Papadatos, Permanent Observer to the United Nations for the European Public Law Organisation.
Registration – Register here to attend via Zoom:
link to pressclub.ch
The side event will clarify the relationship between the Human Rights Council and the Fourth Committee of the UN General Assembly, and will highlight the communication deficit between them. For Scotland, this is about forcing open a door that has been firmly shut for centuries. The Fourth Committee is the body that oversees decolonisation matters, including the work of the C-24. Sara will be in that conversation – inside the room, not standing at the door.
This is not just activity. This is a movement that is being heard – at the highest levels of international law.
Please Register and Watch history in the making. »
We don’t believe in International Law. It is Marxist envy.
Russia’s demographics are not as rosy as they were in 1941. Loss of territory and changes in birth rates mean they have about 30% fewer fighting age men (and I’ve not allowed for those who’ve left the country). Looks like it will hold steady for a decade or so but after that (like a lot of countries) it will decline.
No where as bad as China, who are predicted to be at 40% of current population by 2100.
Dictators who see their military power waning over the next few decades may be more likely to try something now?
And, following the comment on UK/USA help in WW2: the 43-44 Soviet offensives would have run out of steam much more quickly without all those American trucks they received to ferry supplies forward.
Concerning NS appearance on The Wargame, if I were the Russians I would hide my entire army and launch the attack on the UK from round the side of Nikola’s mother-in-law’s house, – she would never look there!
Angus 3.47am
Yes, I agree that Nicola is desperate to get into the House of Lords. Val seems to have disappeared from her life.
The money’s good in the Lords and the prospects for bribery handouts is excellent.
She’ll be in good company with Michael Gove, Ruth Davidson, Michelle Mone, Gordon Brown… I could go on.
The Gordo hasn’t made it to the Lards – perhaps his gold selling exploits put the kibosh on that.
Incidentally, who/what trashed the UK economy the most
a] Gordon Brown
b] Brexit
c] Liz Truss
d] George Soros
Hard to know but I’ll play the game.
Gordon Brown. His “light touch” regulation of financial services helped to promote the climate in which RBS nearly went bust and banks needed bail outs in 2008 crash.
The effects are still felt today: debt, earnings, productivity.
His “light touch” regulation of England’s Hospital Trusts while setting them up to compete with each other led to numerous NHS scandals and unnecessary deaths.
A bad egg all round.
Gordoom went Scorched Earth on the UK in a fit of spiteful rage when the UK public didn’t like him, as many governments do when they’re hated and end up in a doom spiral. Theresa May and Rishi Sunak did the same in the dying days of their regimes.
Brexit was catastrophically bungled, because it could never be allowed to be a success. The M25 omniclusterfuckpermashambles saw to that.
Liz Truss was/is an airhead and a good example of Dunning-Kruger.
David Cameron was just Tony Blair with a blue tie and as big a fud.
The War Criminal of course caused the most damage in so many ways, most of today’s problems stem from the New Labour years and policies they enacted.
You’re not wrong, but am I not correct in thinking that Gordon “Bigoted Woman”* Brown really had no choice but to sell our gold (at a knockdown price) in order to safeguard the contents of (some) folk’s bank accounts? If this was indeed the case then I would find it rather hard to judge the man for this specific action. His other deeds, now that’s a different matter…
You’ll get nae argument from me there, Spartan.
Again, I can’t take issue with that statement. You’ve just reminded me that I need to pick up a cabbage tomorrow though, so thanks for that 🙂
Very true.
Oh man, truer words were never spoken. “Things can only get better”, my hairy Buchan bawbag… 🙄
* how dare she utter the foul suggestion that immigration might be too high, eh? Little did the poor wifie know just how much worse things were to become…
When does Anas Sarwar take up his seat in the House of Lords.
Sturgeon, Sarwar, Mone, Davidson, will be a dream team. But somehow I suspect Surgeons days are numbered. She is going down and her handler protectors will have no hesitation in sacrificing her.
Tick tock for Nicola I’d say.
“She is going down and her handler protectors will have no hesitation in sacrificing her”
Interesting how Sturgeon’s demise will be taken as evidence that her “handlers” have “sacrificed” her.
I guess the alternative explanation, that she brazened it out over Murrell’s thefts and the orchestrated cover up that followed, and that the slow grinding wheels of justice have finally caught up with her, would be just too outlandish for belief.
“And thus we see that in the colony, justice being done and being seen to be done proves that colonialist oppression and slavery is normalised” (Hatey).
From The Cradle To The Grave.
The Scottish Marxist State.
1. The Baby Box.
2. The School Bag.
3. The Benefits.
4. The Assisted Suicide.
Surely you’re missing The Lobotomy?
Or is that more efficiently administered through something added to Scottish Water?
That is what the Universities are for.
The mission statement on Liberation Scotland’s crowdfunder page —
“Liberation Scotland’s mission is to restore the sovereign, independent state of Scotland through the exercise of the right of self-determination and the restoration of the Scottish Constitution.”
— is an objective I fully support.
But the next claim on the same page —
“Our first, essential step is to secure international recognition of Scotland as a Non-Self-Governing Territory (NSGT) at the UN Special Committee on Decolonization (C-24) and so initiate the UN-mandated process of decolonisation…”
— cannot happen under current UN procedure unless the UK itself reports Scotland to C-24 for consideration.
As I mentioned in a previous comment, the decisive point is procedural: C-24 cannot consider a territory unless the administering state submits it under Article 73(e).
Logic, grounded in the reality of UN procedure, tells us that Liberation Scotland’s proposed “first, essential step” is certain to fail — has already failed, in fact — because it depends on an action that only the UK can take and has no incentive to take.
Liberation Scotland therefore faces a binary choice: either persuade the UK government to report Scotland to C-24, or develop a new strategy that aligns with the actual UN procedure.
@ Northcode: I hope that you are mistaken. Salvo/Liberation have UN-experienced people in their committee. Perhaps you could contact Salvo and see if they have the answer to settle your doubts.
If that fails then you can apply to the United Federation of Planets. The Klingons are in the chair this year so I would leave it till the Andorians take the chair.
Don’t tempt the loonies, they will try and find an address to post the application to. 🙂
United Federation of Planets? I’d sign up for that, happily.
A utopia where conflict and want among mankind is eliminated due to abundant matter/antimatter energy, faster than light warp drive, routine space travel, colonisation of star systems (oh feck! Dinnae tell Alf!), replicators, holodecks, no money/poverty/greed, my application for Starfleet is ready to go in the post.
If you attach a vid of yourself singing “Imagine”, dressed in a fairtrade kaftan and recycled plastic shoes, you’re guaranteed to get an interview.
But watch out for the trick question: “In order to establish utopia on Earth, which race would you exterminate?”.
The answer they want catches out a lot of applicants who never make it to the second interview.
To clarify my point:
Whether Salvo/Liberation Scotland has UN-experienced people involved isn’t really the issue here. The question isn’t about expertise — it’s about the UN’s actual procedure.
Under Article 73(e), only the administering state can submit a territory for consideration by C-24. Without that submission, C-24 has no mandate to examine the territory, no matter who speaks at side events, how experienced they are, or how much international sympathy exists.
This isn’t a matter of opinion or interpretation. It’s simply how the reporting architecture works.
So the core point remains: Scotland cannot be considered by C-24 unless the UK itself reports it.
If Salvo/Liberation Scotland has identified a procedural pathway that bypasses Article 73(e), I’d genuinely be interested to see it. But until such a pathway is demonstrated, then either the UK reports Scotland to C-24, or Scotland cannot enter the NSGT process.
Aw, shoot, Northy!
Why de ye hae tae rain oan fowk’s parade lik that?
Your subjective viewpoint does not reflect the Article you refer to, which merely states the need for the administering Power:
“e. to transmit regularly to the Secretary-General for information purposes, subject to such limitation as security and constitutional considerations may require, statistical and other information of a technical nature relating to economic, social, and educational conditions in the territories for which they are respectively responsible other than those territories to which Chapters XII and XIII apply.”
On 20 May 2002, the Constitution of the Democratic Republic of Timor-Leste came into force and Timor-Leste was recognised as independent by the UN.
This was despite the Indonesian state’s earlier claim to the UN that” “the colonial status of East Timor had been terminated with its integration into Indonesia on 17 July 1976 and that the discussion about the status of the Territory violated the principle of non-interference in the internal affairs of a foreign State”.
Which is but one example that refutes your suggestion that only the administrative Power decides if a territory is listed as a NSGT.
My point isn’t about how Article 73(e) is worded in isolation, but how it functions in UN practice.
The clause you’ve quoted describes the obligation to transmit information about territories for which a state is responsible. But as I have already stated, in UN procedure, “Non-Self-Governing Territories” is not a general label— it’s a specific administrative category for territories that the administering state has formally reported and listed.
In other words, the UN can only treat a territory as an NSGT once the administering state has submitted it. C-24’s mandate is tied to that reporting architecture. Without that step, C-24 has no basis to consider the territory, no matter what other states say or how often information is transmitted.
So the core procedural reality remains the same:
Scotland is not on the NSGT list, and cannot be considered by C-24 unless the UK itself reports it under Article 73(e).
That’s not a subjective viewpoint — it’s how the UN’s listing and reporting system actually works.
Timor-Leste doesn’t refute the point I’m making, because its situation was fundamentally different.
East Timor was already on the UN’s list of Non-Self-Governing Territories as a former Portuguese colony. It was therefore already within the Chapter XI framework, already subject to Article 73(e) reporting, and already recognised by the UN as a territory awaiting decolonisation.
Indonesia’s occupation didn’t remove East Timor from the NSGT list, and it didn’t change the UN’s classification. The UN continued to treat it as a listed NSGT throughout, which is why the Security Council was able to mandate a transitional administration (UNTAET) and oversee the independence process.
None of this applies to Scotland. Scotland is not on the NSGT list, has never been listed, and cannot be considered by C-24 unless the UK itself reports it under Article 73(e).
So Timor-Leste’s case doesn’t bypass the reporting requirement — it actually proves my point and illustrates that the UN can only act when a territory is already listed.
Northcode,
“Declaration Regarding Non-Self-Governing Territories”
“Article 73
Members of the United Nations which have or assume responsibilities for the administration of territories whose peoples have not yet attained a full measure of self-government recognize the principle that the interests of the inhabitants of these territories are paramount, and accept as a sacred trust the obligation to promote to the utmost, within the system of international peace and security established by the present Charter, the well-being of the inhabitants of these territories, and, to this end:…
… e. to transmit regularly to the Secretary-General for information purposes, subject to such limitation as security and constitutional considerations may require, statistical and other information of a technical nature relating to economic, social, and educational conditions in the territories for which they are respectively responsible other than those territories to which Chapters XII and XIII apply.”
What you say has no relevance. Scotland is not yet regarded as a non-self-governing country. Article 73 and all its subsections, including e, have no relevance.
I agree with you — Scotland is not regarded as a Non-Self-Governing Territory.
That’s precisely the point I’m making.
Because Scotland has never been listed as an NSGT, Article 73(e) doesn’t apply to it, and C-24 has no mandate to consider it. The UN can only treat a territory as an NSGT once the administering state has formally reported and listed it under the Chapter XI framework.
So your observation actually reinforces the procedural reality I’m trying to clarify:
Scotland cannot enter the NSGT process unless the UK itself submits it for consideration.
That’s the distinction I’m making clear.
Scotland has been recognised within the UN framework regarding her claim as NSGT. Documents have been submitted to the UN, formally identifying Scotland as a territory under English colonial sovereignty.
The UN has heard submissions that the door should be opened to those not already on the list. The shortcomings and delays of the UN have been reflected back to them by Jerome Elkaim-Bouquet and Sara Salyers has discussed with him online the possible effects of his speech on such as Scotland.
It is a process and I don’t see a dead end.
And by the way you seem to have been saying that NI and Wales ceased to be colonies of the UK on devolution.
Scotland has not been “recognised” in any meaningful way. Documents have been sent in, but the UN receives a whole host of documents for any of the 5,000+ organisations that have consultative status, on an enormous range of subjects. Almost all of them are simply filed, as with Liberate Scotland’s documents. The exception being C-24, who have explicit told Liberate that they cannot consider the case of Scotland.
It’s no different to any individual or organisation writing in on any subject.
I think we’re talking about two different things.
Submitting documents, speaking at side-events, or having NGOs raise issues at the UN doesn’t place a territory on the NSGT list. Those are symbolic or informational actions, not procedural ones.
The UN can only treat a territory as a Non-Self-Governing Territory once the administering state has formally reported it under Chapter XI. That’s the sole gateway into the NSGT system, and it’s the reason Scotland is not on the list.
Nothing you’ve mentioned changes that procedural requirement.
As for NI and Wales, I’m not making any claim about their colonial status beyond the historical facts I set out in a previous post — in answer to a question you posed and which I answered in good faith. I’m simply describing how the UN’s decolonisation framework actually works.
Almost twenty five percent of eighty posts from Hatey. What a gobby up himself know nothing obnoxious cunt he is!
…just saying.
You mind me of somebody who used to be a regular on here.
He had to stop suddenly – trouble with his missus.
I’m sure you’ll be grand. In fact, your only problem is probably going to be that your towering intellect and over-arching mastery of all subjects discussed BTL will lead to dazzling posts of wit and erudition that the rest of us will struggle to understand, let alone respond to.
But you must be well used to that by now.
Obviously nothing better to do. Likely retired or unemployed.
20-25% is the norm.
Simply can’t help themselves. A BTL whack-a-mole Ninja with nothing of value to add to the debate – just taps the “Submit Comment” and waits for the dopamine hit. Cue the Homer Simpson “Ahhhhhhhhhh….”
Once a Prick….
You’re obviously unaware of my tech savviness, Bob.
When I hit “Submit Comment” in reply to one of your posts, I get a bog flushing sound.
Not a water saving one either. The full fat, extra long duration, high cistern, gushing Niagara needed to eliminate a particularly noisome, stinking, bog blocking, super sized turdberg of excrement.
Man! The power of social media.
For the very first time ever, I post “super sized turdberg of excrement” and up pops James!
Sorry, folks, in the future, I’ll try to use my summoning powers only for good.
Hatey et al are clearly on a ‘piece-rate’, Dave.
Ah, c’moan noo, Alf. Gie the boy a brek. Dave’s nae ganging tae ken fit “et al” means.
An try tae at least gang through the motions o’ lingueestic purity by spikking Scots. Ye’re nae at college high table noo!
‘piece-rate’
That may well have worked under the colonial system.
For your information we both meet the Rev’s representatives in an undisclosed car park, where brown envelopes bulging with cash are thrown into our cars by feral youths on E-bikes. Always with the same instructions; ‘Annoy those bastards’.
For Hasbara or Integrity Initiative? Or both?
Careful, Cynicus!
If you believe they’re behind everything, then you don’t want to be broadcasting to the world that you’re onto them.
Short presentation by SARA SALYERS 6 days ago, on behalf of SALVO / LIBERATION SCOTLAND.
link to youtube.com
As you were, folks. US-UK bromance is back on:
link to theguardian.com
The Mayor of Britain looked like a sixth former getting reprimanded by the headmaster. He looked as if he was on the pish the night before and forgot to iron his shirt.
“forgot to iron his shirt”
That’s a mystery. In the pic I saw of him boarding the plane to fly to the USA, he defo had his wife with him.
Do you think this could have been the first time ever that President Trump met somebody who likes buses?
Collete Stevenson thinks Braveheart was a fly on the wall documentary.
Wheesht! If that story gets out all the SNP-supporting Scots who think likewise will make her FM.
Please call the SNP on 0800 633 5432 if you have any queries about your donation.
An anti-Sturgeon (in a roundabout way) petition some of you might get a wry chuckle out of. Sign and pass on! 🙂
link to change.org
77 SUNSET STRIP – 1958 – TV Series – ABC
link to youtube.com
And meanwhile if I may change the dial what thoughts if any on the announcement that Mr Swinney is looking to reorganise the 32 Scottish local authotities into 6.
Its an interesting concept because with 6 supra local authorities what place then for the Scottish Parliament. Its a very real possibility.
The Scottish Parliament undermined on the road to abolition a great Britain of the regions the future reality.
Yes interesting, and especially so when you consider the NHS changes and what they portend.
Plenty of Scots, including posters on Wings BTL, would like to see an end to the wee, pretendy, Scottish parly. It has done more this century to turn Scotland into a world laughing stock than every other influence combined.
Even as I write, Burnham’s options are narrowing as the UK’s economic position continues to slide. Tax rises are once again on the table.
Scots already pay higher taxes than the rest of the UK, thanks to the WP parly’s incessant need to part us Sovereign Scots from what we laughingly believed was our own money. We could cut ourselves some slack by turning the wee, pretendy parly into asylum seeker’s accommodation and throwing its entire quota of corrupt, incompetent grifters, and their armies of troughing hangers on, onto the dole.
Indeed Hatey.
Plenty of us would be pleased to see the end of both FollyRude and the plethora of local councils, wasteful organisations all. Both lots whinge endlessly about “lack of funding” whilst profligately urinating what they have up the wall.
Cut the waste and scrap Council Tax. Most funding is centralised anyway. CT is a top-up for cooncil pensions.
Make sure your wills are in order, folks. 450,000 to die in the next 6 months:
link to theguardian.com
It seems a lot on first sight, but some perspective helps. Alert TV watchers will be aware of the Water Aid adverts, which claim that 1,000 children die every day from water-borne diseases.
By the power of math, that’s 365,000 every year. Almost an El Nino’s worth.
I’d call it a genocide almost, but that’s a special word reserved for the special people whose special government policies have brought them to living in tents surrounded by rubble.
Besides, looking at the numbers, a genocide must be an order of magnitude less, in the tens of thousands, to really matter.
Hundreds of thousands of deaths is more Stalinist – not quite a statistic, but getting close.
Jeepers creepes Hatey I thought you were talking about 450,000 being the estimate of numbers to die when we go to war.
At l3ast when we go to war, which senior generals say is when and n9t if, this’ll take our mind off a collapsing economy.
Why Jaw Jaw when you can War War. You know it makese sense.
The WHO estimates 15 million were killed by Covid.
And it looks to me like our society doesn’t give a damn.
There must be plenty readers on here who lost family. But you rarely hear a peep out of them.
Seems to me there’s no direct connection between body counts and the extent to which people will get exercised about them. People make a conscious choice to care or not to care.
And yes, I hate the Covid Spreaders for cooking up Covid in their lab, carelessly letting it escape, then ruthlessly lying about it until they’d infected the entire world.
Ah, a very typical article from TeH GrAuNiAd. Hysteria sans context.
Bearing in mind this is all “mibbes aye, mibbes naw, ken” but generally climate hysteria wibble has a noteworthy habit of being consistently wrong.
Regarding the Coof mentioned below, yes it was cooked up and deliberately spread by the originating nation – notably run by a Communist dictatorship – and was used as a good crisis to further many agendas across the West. Notably a shift to more authoritarian government, a disregard of democracy and ushering in many oppressive “climate” policies such as Net Zero.
Whilst the people affected by the Coof and its victims are a tragedy, the real lasting damage was done in the lockdowns and 1984esque governance, which will never be forgotten nor forgiven.
The question is, how did Scotland become a none governing State by presumption of the parliament of England,
As Scotland has made no 1707 treaty of union ( on Record ) with the State parliament of Great Britain? as it did not exist, nor has it made a 1707 treaty of union with the Anglo Irish UK parliament of 1801/02 as it did not exist.
The precise requirement would be for the parliament of England to approach the UN regards Scotland,
Except the parliament of England is not supposed to exist, [ it was ceased ] if the State and parliament of Great Britain Britain has to Exist at all.
And I Repeat where and when necessary,
…[ Scotland has No such 1707 Treaty of union with the Parliament of GB or the UK Anglo Irish parliament, ]….
Scotland is actually a republic,
As the parliament of England still exists, within the Great Britain parliament.
The 1707 Treaty of union of two Countries parliaments failed.
As the Scottish parliament was dissolved and ceased in England.
The Great Britain State unification of 1707 never evolved because the Parliament of Scotland was Dissolved in England on the 28th April 1606.
The approach to the UN should be that Scotland officially by legalities is a Republic Country
However a Colony of the parliament of England as Scotland or its parliament neither made or Created a union with the Great Britain parliament.
nor had it at any time as a Scottish parliament created a union with the UK Anglo Ireland parliament.
If Salvo wish the attention of being recognised as a Colony route then
1:
it has to provide diligence to the facts, dates and records that the old Scottish parliament ceased to be or Exist in England 28th April 1606. by the Monarchs Declaration.
2:
That Englands parliament of Great Britain 1st May 1707 does not include The parliament of Scotland.
That is the date in time that the territory of Scotland can accurately be pin pointed as a non governing territory of Scotland but a Colony.
Salvo and liberation must pay attention to detail at the UN,
Otherwise it is nothing more than a farce. A gimmick.
EDINBURGH COLLEGE OF ART to close craft courses, including jewellery and textiles.
(BELLACALEDONIA 23 Sept 2026)
« Further to the announcement of massive cuts to Edinburgh’s College of Arts, Humanities and Social Sciences (CAHSS) that we highlighted yesterday [An Act of Monumental Cultural and Educational Vandalism] there is also now a huge response to further cuts at Edinburgh College of Art.
« Statement on the Closure of Craft Courses at Edinburgh College of Art 21/09/2026:
« Craft Scotland and the other craft support organisations signing this statement are shocked to hear about the proposed closure of the undergraduate Jewellery and Silversmithing, Textiles and Performance Costume courses at Edinburgh College of Art. This will devastate educational opportunities for future generations of professional makers and designers. […] etc »
« Signed
Irene Kernan, Craft Scotland Craft Scotland
« Co-Signed
Applied Arts Scotland
Fife Contemporary
Design-Nation UK
Visual Arts Scotland
Scottish Textiles Showcase
Heritage Crafts
TRACS
We Are Makers »
link to bellacaledonia.org.uk
Not too late to get this reversed.
Just need some of these organisations to re-invent themselves as militant trans, ideally with a side hustle in tea towel studies.
Nae cant in government will dare meddle with them after that.
How will the world survive without ceramic pots and doggy jackets?
The world will buy them from the Covids.
It’s worth repeating that the imbalance in trade between the EU and the Covids is now at the headline grabbing figure of 1 billion Euros. Per day.
Every 24 hours, the EU sends one billion Euros to the Covids in exchange for manufactured goods the EU has voluntarily chosen to stop making. For “reasons”. Wealth transferred that will never return.
The UK and Scotland are in the same boat, perhaps even proportionately worse. No doubt the figures for our own daily wealth transfers are available somewhere.
What do you call a state or states that are stripped of their wealth by an external, foreign power?
C’moan Professor Baird. You ken this ane!
Spartan 117.
Letter Council 3rd September 2015,
Dear Mrs Che,
Council tax reference number……….
I would firstly advise that the Council Tax is a form of local taxation, which provides funding to @ Council to support the infrastructure of Services supplied to the Whole Area not just a Specific property.
Council Tax is not directly linked to any Services supplied to, or not as the case may be, individual households and similarly is not directly linked to any Services used, or not, by any householder.
Signed
Council Tax Assistant.
So there you have it, its a local ( poll ) people tax, not directly linked to services that may or may not be used, by a householder.
It forgets to mention that should you move premises or houses it ceases to be at the old address, and starts at the new address in your name.
The Taxation follows you and I around the Country not the property.
I had queried this due to a homeless man actually living in Stacked bales of Hay, with a Tarpaulin thrown over the top,Having just received a Council Tax ( which I read ) bill for being homeless,
Apparently all it needs is a person, as the bales of hay belonged to the farmer, and would probably not had a council tax bill without the person.
He would have got the single occupant discount and been exempted from water charges.
Dry your eyes 🙂
Yes James in other words “It’s a scam that doesn’t actually serve anything other than the Cooncil pension pot, we don’t care, just give us yer money. P.S. We’re cutting your bin collections, don’t give a stuff that the local schools are overflowing and the craters in the roads can hang for all we care. Oh and your tax is going up above inflation, yet again”.
Cunts.
I’m not sure Sturgeon was ever capable of a well thought out defense and security policy.
She was just more comfortable hanging out with the lesbians at CND.
The reasoning that the territory of Scotland is first of all a Republic Country , is that the political union of the two Countries parliaments failed to united as evidenced given in above posts,
If …the two territories, Realms parliaments had continued and Scotlands not ceased, then it would have contiuity advancement into treaty of union on the 1st may, to create the new state of GB, 1707.
The promise to be carried forward was that the Scottish parliament had agreed with the parliament England that the GB parliament and new State would share a monarchy, under the monarch of England.
This failed to materilise on the 1st May 1707 as the parliament of Scotland had been dissolved previously.
However the parliament of England transferred went forward on its own to create the parliament of Great Britain,
The failure of the Queen and the parliament of England was to recognise that having ditched the parliament of Scotland on the 28th April 1606 into the union,
Not only did it fail to unite parliaments, Also Failed to unite in sharing a Monarch there afterwards,
One will never know if the queen of England under the Bill of rights and act of Settlements got cold feet,
We can only visit the dates, records and results of that decision, to witness that Scotland has had no monarch for over three hundred years,
Of course there was no such Queen as Queen Elizabeth 11 of Scotland, only a Queen of that title from the Country of England.
This state of affairs left Scotlands lands and people as the Republic of Scotland,
Therefore the exact identification is that the ” Republic of Scotland ” that has become a Colony of Englands Great Britain parliament
Which holds no Scottish parliament.
Look! There’s a bronze squirrel!
“the ” Republic of Scotland ” that has become a Colony of Englands Great Britain parliament”
Oor colonial reality is discussed a wee bittie here, with useful examples:
link to barrheadboy.com
Hatey,
Scots are already taxed higher,
And may I add twice when income for a year goes higher,
Letter from HMRC included HMRC taxation for income for the year and at the bottom of the page also included Scottish income tax for the same year,
Double parliaments, double taxation bills for Scotland, this scam will apply to any devolved area I presume,
“Double parliaments, double taxation bills for Scotland, this scam will apply to any devolved area I presume,”
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No – it just applies to you.
According to the BBC Scotland, a de facto colony if not de jure, has the worst drug addiction problem in Europe.
link to globalresearch.ca
Scotland is increasingly, compared to other European countries, looking like some neglected third world statelet with a self-serving administration hell bent on keeping the status quo.
A job well done Agent Sturgeon!
Such a pity Agent Swinney lacks your balls.
Dealing with drugs is a hard row to hoe for any government.
Much of Scotland’s drug problems lie in deprived areas. People in the most deprived 20% of communities in Scotland were 15 times more likely to have a drug-related death than those in the least deprived areas. This shows the severe impact of socioeconomic factors on health outcomes related to drug use.
“Nitazenes were implicated in 247 deaths in 2025 – more than 22% of the total. The figure had more than trebled from 76 deaths the previous year.
Opiates and opioids, such as heroin, continued to be the most common type of drug implicated in deaths, accounting for 78% of the total.
Cocaine was implicated in 52% of deaths, the highest figure since NRS began publishing specific data in 2008.
NRS said the increase in deaths – which came after a 13% fall in 2024 – had been driven by a rise in deaths of male drug users. This increased by 19%, while the rate of female deaths fell by 5%.
The rate of drug-related deaths in the most deprived areas of Scotland was 15 times as high as in the least deprived areas.”
link to bbc.co.uk
The number of drug deaths recorded in England is unreliable according to Kings College research.
“Opioid-related deaths from 2011 to 2022 are 54.7% higher than recorded, according to new research by King’s. Analysis by researchers puts the estimated number of deaths at 39,232 compared to 25,364 deaths previously reported.”
The North East of England might have more drug deaths per million than Scotland if the death rate is 50% higher than recorded.
“The reliability of the Office for National Statistics (ONS) data relies on coroners naming specific substances on death certificates, something which often does not happen.
Specific substances such as heroin are instead sometimes only included on more detailed post-mortem reports or toxicology results, which the ONS does not have access to.”
A neglected third world statelet.
As the late Ricky Fulton would say…..Naw, of course not!!
Scotland may have some of the darkest social and health metrics is Europe, but naw, our administrators like the status quo.
Socialists like keeping the poor *poor*.
A substantive chunk of them are druggies themselves (c.f. drug swabs at the House of Commons showing rampant drug use).
It’s really just a matter of time till they/them joins Labour and wears a hijab.
Well Trumpy certainly smacked a few bottoms yesterday. Some of them won’t sit down for a week.
Did he pay you $5000 to say that? 🙂
No. That ones for free.
Trump might be an arse but he does wind up all the right people.
A bit like Michael O’Leary.
And puts the fear of God into others. Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Even the sight of her ( sturgeon) makes me sick!!
The Scottish Parliament should remain with its present amount of members.
Would anybody who supports a team in any sport call for its
Extinction if it was playing badly and had poor players?
The plan for the reorganisation of local councils is needless
and an excuse for the reduction of services,staff and budgets
and sale of assets at a cheap price.
If anybody states that a council is unviable due to size of area,population or finances they are giving an open goal to the opponents of independence.
Lastly this is a diversion from real issues like the drug death numbers,would humza have stated their ethnicity or is this one aspect of the great replacemement.
“The plan for the reorganisation of local councils is needless and an excuse for the reduction of services,staff and budgets and sale of assets at a cheap price.”
…all of which is a good thing. Councils are incredibly bloated organisations full of wastage providing many things absolutely unnecessary, like subsidised housing for one example. Whilst failing miserably to provide the basic services they are meant to (education, road maintenance, refuse collection for example).
Highland Council continually complain they are “skint” yet pissed up almost a million on doing up their town house, which the public has no access. Or 400k on a daft ugly piece of “art” by the River Ness that a) is a fecking eyesore and b) nobody wanted. The same council then complains there aren’t the resources to look after autistic kids or sort the crumbling roads.
Or shall we examine Edinburgh Council and their catastrophically overbudget Tram project that not only failed to deliver anything but a parallel to the No. 22 bus route but caused years of gridlock and misery for residents and businesses?
The fact is, these organisations are wasteful, cost us all a lot of money (£220/month in my case, and that’s a band D property) and do nothing but cause misery for residents and feathering their own nests.
Call time on this scam. Do away with the lot of them. Bastards.
It is a brutally sad fact of life but one of the Scottish Government is a bloated inefficient administration.
The councils have always been bloated, inefficient and frankly corrupt. The Scottish Government is created in there image. And with the SG go all the bloated quangos.
Swinney and his utterly inadequate team of troughers and time servers are testimony to that. Where to start in criticism. The ferries in Scotland, might be a good example of dead hand fill your boots deliver nothing so called service.
The SNP under Alex Salmond delivered good governance. The Administration tried hard, the politicos were committed and then the lush bags took over. And no bigger lush bag than the one now in exile down in London. Dead hand troughers, rotten and corrupt to, they have delivered not, which is exactly what their masters wanted them to do.
But the truth is emerging. The Salmond exposure of rotten government aided and abetted by dark hands will expose that. A Vichy administration it is now clear why Salmond had to go.
But readers on this blog know that. The politics and modus of the British state is dark and deep. They created the biggest empire the world has seen and their devolved parliament has become the Trojan Horse.
And now they move to the next stage. But I believe folks know that. They no longer identify the SNP as an independence movement. Folks know that. Maybe don’t know just how deep the dark hand has played. But the protected London based Sturgeon now cum film star, thespian actor, cum protected against prosecution tells you that.
But yes, the reorganisation of Scottish local government. Rotten as it is, does anyone think that big John Swinney came up with the policy to restructure.
Of course not!
Huh link to scottishdailyexpress.co.uk
A Tory and a Snip, quite a peculiar pairing.
Unless you take the view that the establishment parties of Red/Blue/Orange/Green are all just one unholy group pretending to be opponents, in which case it all makes perfect sense.
A bit like when you mix all the different colours of playdoh and it all turns into that jobbyish brown colour (a very apt analogy).
(a very apt analogy).
That’s for the readers to decide. Yes that’s a pretty good analogy.
“Strengthening international law through greater cooperation between the HRC and the UN GA”
Video from Yesterday’s UN Geneva Event (22nd Sept 2026)
SARA SALYERS spoke for the SCOTTISH LIBERATION MOVEMENT at the GENEVA PRESS CLUB on cooperation between the HUMAN RIGHTS COUNCIL and the UN GENERAL ASSEMBLY Fourth Committee.
The session was moderated by Ambassador George Papadatos, Permanent Observer to the United Nations for the European Public Law Organisation. Sara was joined by Dr Christophe Dorigné-Thomson and Matilde Pacheco.
link to youtube.com
I would personally warm to ‘war game’ sending these politicians to the front lines themselves and we could watch the results on our tvs whilst ordering in the popcorn. War mongering fools.
It’s my own belief that warmongering politicians should be locked in a room with their adversaries and left to sort it out amongst themselves.
Craig Murray gives an interesting alternative perspective on Ru**ia on his blog from a recent visit. Worth a read.
When you say “alternative perspective” what you mean is he is repeating Ru**ian state propaganda lines on behalf of the Ru**ian state. The Ru**ian state knows full well that none of this stuff is true, but they want us in the west to believe it, hence why they enlist people like George Galloway or CM to spread it.
CM is an Oswald Mosley figure.
There’s a Ru**ian state tactic known as “maskirovka” (I think I spelled that correctly) which is basically the art of obfuscation and never letting your opponents know what you’re up to.
I wouldn’t be surprised if this was an example.
Still, an interesting perspective from the other side, challenging the groupthink Ru**ophobic narrative in the West.
Is Ru**ia a hostile state? Absolutely. Are they our enemy? Only if our government – the biggest threat to the UK population – keeps picking fights with them.
Might be “worth a read” if it explains why the 45 million or so currently being bombed every night will be better off once their independent nation has been cancelled and they have been brought, against their wishes, back under Orc control.
Do let us know if it explains all that.
That would be a perverse POV for a supposed Indy supporter to hold, as transferred to our own context, it green lights London to militarily crush us should we ever become Idependent ourselves.
But that’s CM for you. Never been quite right since he took to tying the tea towels too tight round his heid.
You say “if the U.K. Government keeps picking fights with them” – but it is Ru**ia that has repeatedly invaded its neighbours over the past 20-years, including this latest invasion of a peaceful and neutral democratic country. They’ve also committed numerous war crimes, including shooting down an airliner, and have murdered British citizens in the U.K. The UK, Europe and the USA have actually been extremely weak and appeasing towards Ru**ia up to 2022, which undoubtedly is part of the reason why they feel so emboldened.
LOL.Fireshire Adrian; Comedy gold as always.
Keep ’em coming, Curly!
Oh look everyone “James” is back. Managed to persuade them to turn your internet back on?
NS appears to be completely captured and owned by the British state. I don’t know what leverage the security services have on her, but they seem to have something substantial.
And of course the old “Politics is show biz for ugly people” also explains this Wannabe Star’s strange behaviour.
Perhaps a bit of both – would explain a lot.
It’s an article of faith, isn’t it, that nothing can ever be as it seems?
The interesting question is whether supporting Scottish Indy turns people into the sort who see conspiracies everywhere. Or whether it’s the conspiracy theorists who feel drawn to Scottish Indy.
Whichever, there’s no surer way of turning somebody into a complete ineffectuality than convincing them the world’s full of shadowy actors who will stymie them at every turn.
At least, that’s what “they” want you to believe.
Suspect NS was always a wannabe actor from start to finish, she certainly played the starring roll and false lead many a time.
But then we have new rolls provided for Swinnney and his thesbians,
Cross the border and we witness many a incompetent actors in leading rolls down there too.
It would appear bad leading rolls in Britain is not by accident but by design,
I guess a thesbian is an obvious hybrid. Probably an apt description for our former National Mammie as she establishes her new career on stage and screen.
She’s been looking a bit pudgy recently. Her agent will doubtless tell her to lay off the rolls.
Agentx.
Additional ” Scottish income Tax” would apply to every one in Scotland,
Its called Scottish income tax for a reason, doh.
Hatey,
you start the day by insulting and dismissing Stu’s efforts over the years to present day. Not a good look, everything or anything may be “named a conspiracy” until proven.
And their are many actors hiding in the wings of the Stage, that encourage false leads.
And Stu has to deal with all the people and conspiracies that are placed in front of him over the years , and set upon Wings over Scotland,
I have great respect for Stu and his diligence in journalism and tenacity, in sorting out conspiracy accuations that have befallen him and others, when there seems to be, two separate Scripts for the same play.
I’m confident Rev Stu can defend himself against my insults.
If you get right back to basics, the fundamental fact about Scottish Indy is that support for it is insufficiently high to make it a democratic reality.
Only by choosing to ignore that fact can you get yourself to a position where all other inconvenient facts can be similarly discounted, thus throwing the door wide open to the conspiracy theories.
Occam’s Razor is your friend. Sturgeon was an ineffectual also ran who had the luck to be in the right place at the right time. She surrounded herself with talent-free sycophants but then discovered that by doing so, she had destroyed all chances of building a competent government capable of growing Indy support to the unstoppable level.
So she fell back into her comfort zone of identity politics, putting in enough effort only to maintain her position and to ensure the loyal tribe of credulous SNP supporters would turn out every 5 years.
I don’t think it’s any more complicated than that.
Hatey,
It was with sadness that I noted your lack of empathy towards a homeless veteran living in Bales of Hay the other day, especially as the talk of war is being ramped up now in Britain, again not a good look if expecting new recruits in any forth coming planned war if this is how they will be treated afterwards.
And yes I did try helping him, by writing to the appropriate Council for housing and Council tax billing,
And the letter received in reply from the Council regarding Council tax of Bales of hay is the one I posted yesterday for 2015.
I personally know folk who have built their house from bales of straw.
They think it’s great.
So do I. It’s very warm.
This is a serious post. The other one wasn’t.
Yes thesbian does fit NS, however I personally had applied that word to the to the more recent group that also fight Courts on the issue of more than two genders if you had read it properly.
Which Stu has also been posting about.
Countries & peoples may be destroyed through invasion and occupation but the most effective method is to offer those countries & peoples the means to destroy themselves.
The opium trade wars with China during the British empire is a signal notorious example among many such.
Once the door of subversion has been opened it requires a very strong force to close it again, a stronger force than Scotland currently manifests alas.
Countries & peoples may be destroyed through invasion and occupation but the most effective method is to offer those countries & peoples the means to destroy themselves.
The opium trade wars with China during the British empire is a signal notorious example among many such.
Once the door of subversion has been opened it requires a very strong force to close it again, a stronger force than Scotland currently manifests alas.
“It’s been stuck in a stalemate against Ukraine for almost half a decade, at a catastrophic cost in lives and materiel, and as a result is very poorly-placed to be attempting to advance any further west. Nobody sane expects any sort of definitive military outcome to the war in the foreseeable future.”
At the risk of putting my sanity even further in doubt, I don’t think the conflict is in a stalemate, and I think the war of attrition is reaching the point where there will indeed be something like a collapse by Ukraine within the next year, which I count as the foreseeable future. And even if that prediction proves wrong, it’s not implausible (nor insane).
That doesn’t make the UK’s or its Western European buddies’ policies any more rational (less so actually), and it certainly has no bearing on Nicola Sturgeon’s standing as foreign-policy grandee, but I just wanted to say it.
I watched Sara Salyers’ speech from Tuesday’s UN Geneva side-event – to which Fearghas provided a link – and here are my thoughts on it.
Her speech isn’t a procedural argument about Scotland’s position within the UN system. It’s a mythic liberation narrative expressed in the language of international law.
She frames Scotland as occupied and annexed, its people colonised, placing it symbolically alongside global south nations historically subjected to foreign domination.
This framing allows her to claim that Scotland suffers from violations of jus cogens norms, erga omnes obligations, and self-determination rights — even though Scotland doesn’t currently meet the UN’s criteria for Non-Self-Governing Territory status.
Throughout the speech she cites major UN covenants, resolutions, and historical events, but she uses these references symbolically, not procedurally.
They create moral gravity and emotional legitimacy while avoiding the actual mechanisms that govern decolonisation — especially the Chapter XI reporting requirement, the NSGT listing gateway, and the limits of C-24’s mandate I’ve described in previous posts on this thread.
The speech’s core manoeuvre, though, is a category merge (a rhetorical device often observed in this place): Scots are rhetorically repositioned as a people enduring occupation, resource exploitation, cultural suppression, and denial of rights.
This allows Salyers to collapse constitutional disputes, political grievances, and historical narratives into a single overarching, explanatory frame — colonial injustice.
It’s a liberation-movement narrative, not a UN-compatible legal argument. The emotional force comes from grievance, destiny, and moral urgency; the procedural reality is left untouched.
Salyers’ narrative is powerful; her grievance is sincerely and eloquently articulated; and her framing is symbolically justified within her worldview. But it isn’t aligned with how the UN actually works.
Procedural reality would collapse her strategy, so she stays in symbolic terrain.
This isn’t a subjective view, this is the precise geometry of her rhetoric.
Some might believe that my analysis of Salyers’ speech is anti-independence, but they would be wrong.
I support Scottish independence where it can be achieved through sustained democratic legitimacy.
And while the powerful myth-logic rhetoric of Salvo/LS as delivered by Sara Salyers in Geneva is necessary in persuading Scots their lives will be better, in the long run, as citizens of an independent Scotland – without procedural honesty the Salvo/LS mission to return Scotland to an independent sovereign state will stall when its rhetoric comes face to face with reality.
If Salvo/LS focused more of their effort on producing a coherent and valid colonialism-free argument in support of independence in the world of today, they might gain traction with those ordinary, everyday Scots who aren’t interested in Scotland’s ancient history – mainly because they are more focused on surviving the world of today.
“The emotional force comes from grievance, destiny, and moral urgency; the procedural reality is left untouched.”
In a nutshell – as a number of people here have been saying for weeks/months/years.
Good post, btw.
Critically important to engage in the international environment and Sarah Salyers is certainly doing that.
And let us not forget the international community played a huge part in securing the Belfast Agreement for that part of the UK that might be described as West Britain.
As for engaging with the public I personally am very disenchanted as to the democratic process and what it delivers for the public when the UK government says there is no right to a referendum which is in Westminster’s exclusive gift.
I suppose it is not dissimilar to the border poll provisioned for in the Belfast Agreement where it’s up to Westminster to decide if and when any border poll.
But if course Westminster ministers have previously suggested that the Good (?) Friday Agreement is old legislation now that has fulfilled its purpose. But yes, an eloquently argued dissertation stating why Sara Salyers is wrong and why she would better spending her time engaging in a colonial free argument.
Northcode,
New post by Rev so you may not see this.
Criteria of Colonial Status
Resolution 1541 sets three objective criteria.
1. The territory is geographically separate & ethnically or culturally distinct from the administering state.
2. The territory does not possess a full measure of self-government.
3. The relationship arose through domination, subjugation, or lack of genuine consent.
Scotland seems to meet those criteria?
Resolution 1541’s criteria only apply to territories that were reported to the UN in 1946 as colonies, protectorates, or overseas dependencies.
That reporting requirement is the gateway into the entire decolonisation system.
Scotland wasn’t reported. It wasn’t administered as a colony. It isn’t geographically separate from the metropolitan territory. And the UN doesn’t apply 1541 to internal nations within sovereign states.
If the UN applied those criteria to domestic nations, half of Europe would qualify as NSGTs — also Quebec and many more.
The UN has never done that, and it isn’t permitted to.
So while the criteria can be used symbolically, they don’t apply procedurally.
Independence still has to come from contemporary democratic legitimacy, not from retrofitting Scotland into a category the UN doesn’t use for internal nations.
@Sam – under limb one, the geographic separation requirement must include separation by sea. An NSGT cannot be geographically contiguous to its administering state. Scotland does not meet this requirement.
Principle V then sets out: “Once it has been established that such a prima facie case of geographical and ethnical or cultural distinctness of a territory exists, other elements may then be brought into consideration”.
Since the geographic separation requirement is not met, there is no need to consider any further tests. But were we to proceed beyond that, there is no mention of how the relationship arose, that is irrelevant, the test is what the relationship is now: “These additional elements may be, inter alia, of an administrative, political, juridical, economic or historical nature. If they affect the relationship between the metropolitan State and the territory concerned in a manner which arbitrarily places the latter in a position or status of subordination, they support the presumption that there is an obligation to transmit information under Article 73 e of the Charter”.
“An NSGT cannot be geographically contiguous to its administering state.”
Quite a few were/are, actually, including in Asia and Africa.
The reality is that “Scotland Does Not Need to Be Overseas to Be a Colony.” Which of course relates to that well-known “Salt Water Lie”; which is simply another in a long line of colonial hoaxes and obstacles (e.g. jings its now over 60% is it!) imperial powers put in the heads of restless native peoples in order “to make any prospect of liberation always seem impossible” (Memmi):
link to decolonise.scot
Northcode
Procedurally blocked. For now. Change is possible, even likely.
Scotland does meet those three criteria. Everyone knows Scotland is geographically separate from England. Everyone knows Scotland is ethnically and culturally different. The world kens Burns.
You dodged the question I asked: when did colonies of England, Wales and NI cease to be colonies? Neither Wales nor NI has a constitution which sets out principles and rules about government. What you set out was what England did which was to provide devolution but reserving overarching powers just as in the dominions (colonies) of Canada and Ireland
Aidan is simply wrong. Namibia was considered a nsgt until independence from South Africa.
The UN doesn’t treat Scotland as a colony procedurally, and has no mechanism to do so without UK permission.
That’s why Scotland has never been on the NSGT list – and is unlikely to be under current rules. Symbolic readings of 1541 are fine, but they don’t change how the UN system actually operates.
Independence still has to come from contemporary democratic legitimacy.
The analysis you have provided there is wrong Alf, in respect of the four examples you have given each time the administrating state has been overseas:
– Namibia: originally a German colony;
– Western Sahara: originally a Spanish colony;
– East Timor: originally a Portuguese colony; and
– Gibraltar: currently an NSGT administered by Britain.
As your article admits, the saltwater rule has been used decisively to prevent the designation of NSGT’s within a states boundaries (e.g. the Sioux/Navajo areas) but finds that even populations which strongly support remaining with their administering state (e.g. the Falklands) nevertheless made it on to the list. The whole attempted rebuttal in your article is an attempt at mental gymnastics e.g. the wording that was used doesn’t use exactly the phrases we want and therefore it doesn’t apply at all, we don’t like the political circumstances that lead to it’s effect, therefore it doesn’t apply, it’s inconvenient (fatal) to our cause therefore we don’t like it and it doesn’t apply (that latter reason being the real reason).
It is true that the administration of some NSGT’s has moved from a non-contiguous state to a contiguous state, and that the UN has not considered this to be achievement of self-government (e.g. Namibia, Western Sahara) but that is not the same question. None of those territories could have been designated as NSGT’s had they been contiguous with their original occupying power.
The point therefore remains, the saltwater rule remains absolute and determinative of whether a territory is an NSGT. It is the first rule to be considered and if the test is not met, no further consideration of any other aspect of the test is possible.
“Everyone knows Scotland is geographically separate from England” – Really Sam, everyone knows there is no land border between England and Scotland do they? That famous construction in the sea known as Hadrians Wall ?
Aidan’s breakdown of the salt-water rule is exactly right, and it dovetails with the UN procedural constraints I set out above.
Thank you Northcode – great post above
“land border between England and Scotland”
Indeed there is such a border, and that’s no doubt why the geographic area concerned is called, wait for it – ‘The Borders’!
Aye so that’s it then Alf – Scotland is geographically contiguous with rUK and therefore cannot be an NSGT.
NC is in mystification mode; the UN is a useful tactic, which may draw blood – the anglos are raging about it anyway, so carry on. Any successful movement will have to adopt a sophiticated multi faceted strategy, it will not be one thing and we are done. You certainly need external friends if you want to escape this prison.
the colony argument – well “you can lead a horse to water” – get a dictionary, lookup “colony”, then go down the list and see how many you can tick off.
“we’re no a colny cuz the coons and wogs got it worse than us” – heard of the highland clearances? Usual middle class nonsense.
ancient history defines the world; we are all living in the past, and we are where we are because we were where we were; consider the ME – a lot of people take seriously a highly dubious 3000 year old property deal put together by a schizophrenic who tried to murder his own son (of which there is no evidence)
Scotland is run by anglos and our own tr34cherous middle class cunts.
Thanks as ever for your erudite, “sophiticated” contribution, Confused.
Brought to you by Evo-Stik and an odd fascination with slow-cooked neck lamb and sliced buttered potato recipes.
Aye, NC seems to have had a coding change in what it churns out.
Compare now to a comment trail from Dec last year.
link to wingsoverscotland.com
People are allowed to change their minds without your permission, Dan.
It’s called having an open mind, you should try it.
“It’s called having an open mind, you should try it.”
And how would you know, exactly, chummy?
Ah, c’moan noo, CC.
It’s simply that Northy’s terrified the UN is going to declare Scotland Independent before Christmas, and he’s already made plans right through to Hogmany. Booked travel and paid deposits too.
That’s the abject fear motivating every sceptic of the post colonial trope.
Hey Fatso, you don’t even have a mind, pal – open or otherwise!
Sheesh, bloody cheek honestly. 😀
There are many more anti as opposed to pro independence posts on this site. It makes you wonder about the online ‘personalities’. Northcode is a cracker.
If you want to consider the ME you need to consider the events of the 7th century AD. Then, of course, you also have to consider Spain, North Africa, the Balkans, India, bits of China and as far East as Indonesia, all of which have been conquered, settled and genocided by the Religion of Peace.
Europe (including Spain again) now getting the same treatment, with new colonies already established in America and Australia ( I mean, WTAF, eh?)
Confused likes to get hung up on the Jews because much like the Christians, you can slag them off. They won’t actually respond until they see you as a real threat.
The Religion of Peace, now. Look at them the wrong way and you better have a safe house already prepared.
Keep slagging off the Jews, Confused. It’s safer for you that way. You’ll be warmly welcomed by the medievalists and misogynists of all flavours – Muslims, trannies and traditional, old-fashioned wife beaters.
I’m not disputing that the wider decolonisation literature can be used to frame Scotland symbolically.
The “decolonise scot” material is interesting in that context.
My point was simply about UN procedure rather than UN interpretation.
The UN doesn’t treat Scotland as a colony procedurally, and it has no mechanism to do so without UK permission. That’s why Scotland has never been on the NSGT list and why Resolution 1541 only applies to territories already classified as such.
So while broader readings of 1541 can be valuable for political narrative, they don’t change how the UN system actually operates.
Independence still has to come from contemporary democratic legitimacy rather than from reinterpreting resolutions the UN doesn’t apply to internal nations.
Good afternoon, perhaps she has “ scuttled off” to London because she now knows that the vast majority of the defence budget allocated for homeland defence will be for London & the Home Counties . Elsewhere & including Scotland will be an afterthought . Any hypothetical “ Russian” invasion” would surely come from the far north and would be after Scandinavian & Baltic states were overrun . In this hypothetical scenario does anybody think that Scotland would be “ sacrificed” . Ten years on from the referendum is ten years where Scotland should have built up our own defences and joined forces with our European friends .
Let’s not kid ourselves , we are Englands front line as far as defence goes