Wings Over Scotland

“recent activity recently”?! The wheels are coming off!

Tune.

“call the cops” we live in hope.

Total banger by Shaun and his crew, best appreciated (in my opinion) at high volume while driving a defective Nova. I’ve got the John Kongos original knocking around on vinyl somewhere, gonnae have to dig it out for a spin 🙂

You’re right to take a break.

Fergus Ewing, Kate Forbes and Ash Regan are watching the SNP go out with a whimper.

Joanna Cherry what’s she up to? Probably nothing.

Where’s all the plotting?

They obviously don’t care enough about Scotland to so bring down the cabal. One might deduce!

Your best article recently was the one with the Robbie Williams song. Coming undone. Loved it.

Looking forward to more in the future.

Let’s hope there’s some action taking place behind the scenes!

@McDuff 10:42pm
If you critically read my comment that’s exactly what I said but the Rev is like everybody else subject to external criticism and beyond. My concern is for his welfare. I maybe reading it wrong and he is absolutely chipper. But I agree he is all that remains of the essence of the Independence movement. The SNP have totally failed but that’s not Stus problem. Have some empathy and trust his judgement. I do.

Take a POSITIVE break Mr Wngs – there’s enough negativity around at the moment.

I just thought that Stu wasn’t writing a new article because there was nothing to write about not that he was having a ‘crise de nerfs’

Soon there will be lots.

Operation Branchform
Operation Daily Record Leak
Operation Perjury
Operation Campervan
Operation The Flying Iron of Doom

Nothing is going to stay this quiet for long.

Growing up in Aberdeen we used to laugh at the P&J and how parochial it was. There was a myth that when the Titanic went down the headline on the P&J the next day was “NE mans drowns at sea.”

Nothing happening worth talking about… Wow.

Classic tune but Shirley let’s lots out there to write about? Cr**g M***r*y, R*b*in M*****, you’re just working up to a bombshell, yeah?

On the road to hell.

“but there’s just been nothing happening worth talking about”

With respect, colonial oppression continues in all aspects of Scottish life, and that is not ‘nothing’. It takes Tory Brian Whittle, for instance, to tell us on Debate Night why Scotland has an acute shortage of doctors (and midwives and nurses).

The reason, as he explained, is the Scottish Government’s cap on Scottish students who can study medicine at state funded for just £2k a year fees. English students pay £9k a year. And overseas students pay £30k a year. So the Scottish universities prioritise the latter higher fee groups and exclude Scots.

We therefore need to manage our universities better so that they do take mostly Scottish students, and not reject them, to study medicine in Scotland and then to work in Scotland. Medical schools in Scotland do not do this, instead they operate as international businesses, prioritising foreign students and higher fees; they exclude and ignore those who they should be prioritising – i.e. Scots. This needs to be sorted!

It’s hypocritical of Tory Brian Whittle to bemoan the lack of Scottish medical students. It was his party that fought ferociously for the unrestricted free market and turned Scotland’s universities into profit obsessed enterprises.

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A life lesson…if you’re a psychopath perhaps.
Five months, 28 signatures…any life lessons from this utter failure, Norfolk?

Could start a whisky column?

I suggest
‘Old Norfolk’ authentic scotch – a bit tart ( a soft nose)
‘The Main’ – Not very good but a lot of it.
‘’The Chas’ – very sour (category 2)

Mac says:
25 October, 2023 at 11:00 pm

” Funny because when I look out the window we seem to be on the brink of WWIII. ” .

Indeed , Mac and never was Gramsci’s quote more apt ……

” The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters.”

The monsters are let loose from their – always provisional- cages and are intent on savaging what remains of Civilisation .

I can’t remember a time of such , intelligence-insulting , soul – destroying untruth – ” The Empire of Lies ” is collapsing under the weight of it’s own corruption ; and threatens to reduce the planet to dust as it thrashes around and lashes out insanely in ( what I believe is ) a futile effort to maintain it’s rapidly evaporating dominance .

We know the US Empire will go to extreme lengths to prevent it’s being diminished ; the question is just HOW extreme ?

Listen to the pathetic , drooling puppet Biden and his unhinged , equally demented Sideshow Bobs eg Blinken , Yelland et al and be afraid , very afraid .

This is Stu’s blog , and it’s his call what topics are up for debate here , but , honestly , it’s hard to give a fuck about the trivial vagaries/idiocies of Scottish Politics at such an alarming time .

Somehow the outcome of Operation Twigform seems * laughably * insignificant in comparison to the prospect of total global conflagration .

@Alf Baird says:26 October, 2023 at 12:47 am

colonial oppression continues …

The reason, as he explained, is the Scottish Government’s cap on Scottish students who can study medicine at state funded for just £2k a year fees

Money extracted under duress from Scotland’s workers on the promise it will be used to benefit Scotland, not the international career prospects of HY.

@Beauvais says:26 October, 2023 at 1:03 am

the migrants coming into England aren’t in the least interested in preserving the union

Hmmm.

It’s my settled opinion that migrants migrate to enrich and improve themselves. Plenty on here are adamant that Scotland enriches, even bankrolls, the Union.

Ergo, migrants have a selfish, pecuniary interest in preserving the Union.

QED. Soz.

Far more innarestin to consider the migrants flooding into Scotland. Predominantly “white flight”, several generations English, older, richer, probably interested in preserving the Union.

It’s my settled opinion that all UK immigration works towards damaging the cause of Scottish Indy. It’s a terrible shame that ScotGov’s pretendy leader wants another million or so migrants in Scotland ASAP.

Meantime, in other news, a war thousands of miles away is splitting popular support for the “new Labour government in waiting” down the middle. That split is being driven by migrants. So we see that the UK’s government can now be decided by the migrant bloc vote – an innarestin and new state of affairs.

Nothing to talk about? You’re avin a larff, right?

Out of frustration with the current political order will that terrible beauty be born?
I sincerely trust for Scotland’s sake that may be very soon.
No more still births. No more fake leaders. No more clueless leadership.
The Union is a rotting corpse.
The British «great stink».

Nothing much happening. That’s probably why Brian Whittle, last MSP in on the Conningservative list and ‘famous’ only for running round in a circle with one shoe on, gets to tell us about NHS Scotland.

Why is the UK Gov so keen to keep Scotland in their precious union?

Show me the money

Does anyone have thoughts on the connection between Jesus returning, End Times, Christian Evangelists – particularly American ones, nature (Creation) at human disposal, Israel’s borders and settlements in the West Bank? I posted a link addressing some of that (the environmental angle was missing) from a major MSM outlet but it gathered no response.

Anyway, perhaps ASA might treat us to a tale of mercenaries.

link to archive.vn

Beauvais @ 1:10 am

“It’s hypocritical of Tory Brian Whittle to bemoan the lack of Scottish medical students. It was his party that fought ferociously for the unrestricted free market and turned Scotland’s universities into profit obsessed enterprises.”

Colonialism is all about profit and exploitation of a territory at the expense of the native people. This has been the case for the Scots working class since the union.

Scots Tories have merely noticed from grumpy constituents that the offspring of the Scots middle class, their core voter, can no longer be guaranteed a student place at Scotland’s elite uni’s because the latter targets mainly wealthy global elites who are happy to pay extortionate fees in order to purchase a supposedly ‘high status’ degree.

Which explains why the vast majority of the students, researchers, academic staff and principals/leadership at Scotland’s ‘elite’ universities today are not Scottish.

Ahh..the blessed 90s Love that song. 😀

Keep us updated of anything happening.
I don’t follow much MSM news these days.

Take a smallish break lol! Cause things may get busy with Branchform & Salmond trial real soon!

Alf – No use blaming the Tories for the lack of Scottish students in Scottish Universities. I went to a Scottish University in the 80’s and it wasn’t a problem then. Changes to the funding model in Scotland were made first by Labour and then by the SNP. Nothing to do with the Tories.

@Captain Yossarian says:26 October, 2023 at 11:08 am

I notice that I’m not listed amongst the detestable Unionists. It’s Main, A Scot Abroad and Chas.

Indeed.

It’s truly remarkable that I constantly call for what I believe is Alba policy – show Scots the economic case for Indy to grow Indy support – and I get constantly pilloried for it.

See thon Alba eh? Pack of Yoons.

Quite honestly, you could not make this stuff up.

O/T: Campbell Martin’s article on State infiltration of the SNP – newly on Voices for Independence.

Alf Baird,

an interesting, but unworkable idea about a state-owned Scottish energy company directly billing consumers south of the border. for energy consumed:

1. Electricity is electricity fed into the grid by producers. There’s no difference between electricity produced by gas plants, coal, wind, solar, biomass or nuclear. The power coming from your sockets could be generated by any of the above: you have no means of telling. To add in a “produced in Scotland” tag is meaningless.

2. The supply of energy across the border (and it often goes from England to Scotland) fluctuates hourly. To add in a tag “produced in Scotland between 0600 and 1430 on 17th September” is even more meaningless.

3. A producing company could only invoice an end consumer if there’s a contract in place. There won’t be. If I were to receive a bill from a Scottish energy producer for electricity they claim they generated in Scotland, and I don’t have a contract with them, then I’m just going to toss their bill onto the log fire and ignore it.

It’s about as impractical an idea as using Orkney as a transshipment point for cargoes destined for mainland Europe. And that’s a bonkers idea.

SCOTLAND AND STOICISM

A very few excerpts from the the remarkable and commended book by David Allan, PHILOSOPHY AND POLITICS IN LATER STUART SCOTLAND: NEO-STOICISM, CULTURE AND IDEOLOGY IN AN AGE OF CRISIS, 1540-1690 (Tuckwell Press, East Linton, Scotland, 2000) —

“(T)his study…surveys the foundations on which a relationship arose from the middle of the sixteenth century between Neo-Stoicism and specifically Scottish moral and political thought” (p 1)

“Nowhere, perhaps, was the Stoical preoccupation with the timeless and legal questions of public life rendered more significant in the second half of the sixteenth century than in furnishing the embattled Calvinists of Northern Europe with reputable arguments for active resistance to their autocratic persecutors.” (p 17)

“George Buchanan brooks large in any survey of neo-Latin literature, in a European as well as merely in a Scottish context…Nowhere was this connection more far-reaching than in ‘De jure regni apud Scotos dialogus’ (1579). (p 48)

[…] The disturbing thrust of this text, essentially that tyrannical kings may legitimately be deposed by their subjects, posed an acute local topicality….Such was the immediate context in which ‘De jure regni’ first burst upon the public scene. Yet underlying its theory of resistance was a notion of popular sovereignty, of an elective Scottish monarchy dependent upon the consent of the political community, which, like the near-simultaneous claims of Hotman in France (the ‘Francogallia’ had in fact appeared in 1573), had very specific roots in ancient Roman philosophy. Indeed, in the form that Buchanan himself employed it, this idea was plucked straight from an impeccably learned classical text, Cicero’s ‘De inventione’. (p 49)

[…] Buchanan also saw that his didactic purposes required a rather fuller account of constitutional history. Not only would this help his somewhat questionable claim that Scottish kingship was elective in character. It would also provide the convincing details, which only a sustained analysis of real political action over time could hope to yield, of those particular aspects of monarchy which were to be admired and those which were at all costs to be avoided. These pressing requirements, too, were traceable directly back to the Stoical origins of Buchanan’s political thought. And soon after the publication of the ‘De jure regni’ they gave rise to a final published work, an almost equally contentious prose tract, the ‘Rerum Scoticarum historia’ (1582). A tendentious Latin history of the Scottish people and their government down the ages, this has become another key text to students of British and European political thought, further underlining how important was Buchanan’s achievement, most visibly seen in these two majestic late prose works, in introducing certain Roman philosophical ideas into sixteenth-century Scottish literature. (p 50)

[…] Such connections also mark Buchanan out as the single Scottish author situated nearest to the cultural and physical centre of Europe’s gathering Stoic revival.” (p 51)

Dearieme @ 11.56

Gosh, you just reminded me that someone claimed payment for sitting their Theory Driving Test on an SNP credit card earlier in the year.
We never did find out who that may have been …

If 32 years since the downfall of Thatcher and 23 years is not long enough for a devolved admin whether Labour or SNP to sort out medical education, one of the most easily projected sectors of the economy, then it does not look good for independence helping out any time soon.

Ian Smith: that doesn’t follow. Independence is not devolution.

Wish I could stop speaking about that ancient guff that the parliament in England is undecided about.

You all know the one,

The one that England thinks they chucked Scotland out of twice over three hundred years ago,

But Scots won’t take a telling about lingering and hanging around Westminster like a bad Snp smell,

Twice “Dissolved and extinguished” from the treaty but here are unionist Scots hoping to still get in the trough, the parliament in England door for some crumbs,

Begging for pretend referendums to appear to those ( they) want to be ( their) masters as if they are keeping Scots dumbed and numbed,

Give Scots the boot twice and watch the scottish elite cling to the boot like a bad smelling piece of shi@te..

The abused marriage partner whom has been kicked out of the house twice, still standing outside the door unable to believe it happened.

Now the divorce papers is in writing,
But like all abused partners they hang around hoping their Ex will take them back,

Even if it is years later, hundreds of years later,

SteepBrae – I’ll tell you another thing that Thatcher privatized that we have paid for ever since and that is the BRE (Building Research Establishment). That was one of the foremost facilities in the world and if they approved something then you could relax knowing it had been properly tested. That was privatized so much so that the manufacturers of building materials were virtually certifying their own products. Thirty years later that gave rise to the Grenfell fire and all of those deaths. I remember at the time, Thatcher asked who paid for the BRE and someone replied: “You pay for it” and she replied: “We’ll soon put a stop to that”.

The divorce papers. Settlement,
Westminster parliament V Scotland parliament,

Westminster parliament,
We have removed said partner above twice from the marital home, however we find we have consistantly been harassed by our Ex partner “Scotland” attempting to re- enter our home at Westminster, in which we have officially dissolved and extinguished according to the laws of England,
We have also notified our Ex partner in Writing on our web site for a numbers of years
and therefore request a court order to remove them from said property,

” We” ( Westminster) have however have not yet agreed a financial settlement from the very brief marriage, and envisage future problems surrounding ” Scotland” trying to claim that the Country and its furniture belongs to them,
We also worry about problems that may arise when we expect “Protest” to protest regarding sharing our debt and profits have in the bank of England, , we foresee some

We have been in contact with their snp solicitors, for negotiations whom tend to favour our point of view rather than their clients in this matter,
Therefore we expect further problems to arise with claims of injustice, and therefore also request “police protection” and government laws on hate crime recently introduced, against ” Scotland” to be enforced by the crown,

Yours sincerely Westminster,

Plastic English man Main says:

**It’s truly remarkable that I constantly call for what I believe is Alba policy – show Scots the economic case for Indy to grow Indy support – and I get constantly pilloried for it.**

You are polluting a web site that has dedicated 12 yrs of their life answering & reporting on every minute fcking fine detail of Scotland’s Independence, the case for it & why it’s perfectly NORMAL for a country to be in charge of its own affairs & not to have a larger, belligerent neighbour have full control over our money.

Are you incapable of using the search function?

Why do you persist with the same pish, day in, day out?

The *economic case* is very easy.

England DO NOT SUBSIDIES US.
England DO NOT PAY FOR US.
ENGLAND DO NOT GIVE US ALL OF OUR OWN MONEY BACK.
ENGLAND DO NOT PROVIDE FULL (REAL) ACCOUNTS of everything that is asset stripped from Scotland.

Considering the English produce fck all, sell fck all & provide fck all other than services & money laundering, we can be assured we are far more wealthier than they are.

Let’s try it. If we don’t like our Independence we can always go back eh? They love us soooooo much they’d willingly take us back.

It doesn’t take Einstein to work it out.

If you think you are kept then yer an even bigger loser than I gave you credit for.

Try reading this site. It’s dead easy. Even use Google & tell yer Britnat mates…

*Wings over Scotland… (Enter fuckwit question here) & you will find all the answers to your questions.

Or piss off. There’s a better idea. Yer constant bleating is just an annoyance. A bit like yoons *once in a generation*

All this ancient guff is GUFF,
Couldn’t agree more With ASA,

The whole situation is full of loopholes like a blind grandma’s knitting.

Geri – You must persuade several hundred thousand more Scots to vote for any organized Nationalist party, be that the SNP or someone else. That’s problem number one and you will not do that by shouting and being disrespectful. You then must put a prospectus in front of the public that explains how everything will work-out better the day after independence. That takes a lot of work, time and money and respected academics are required in order to put that together. If you just want a shouting match then, believe me, no-one will listen and you will continue to travel backwards instead of forwards.

Geri,

you must live in some form of alternative reality.

The fact is that Scotland is subsidised by rUK, and in reality by revenues generated in London and the south east of England. With the exception of about 20 years in the 1970s and 1980s, it’s been that way since 1708.

Anybody saying otherwise is talking mince.

@ Dan

” NB. The following has been pointed out to you numerous times before. ”

This is why I don’t read any of these drongos’ comments . It doesn’t matter how many times their buffoonish opinions are shown as such , they just keep reiterating them : ergo , either they’re too thick to understand what’s been PROVEN , or they have no interest in intelligent engagement , but only seek to suck people in to pointless , repetitive arguments .

Pretty sure the latter is their real intention .

Please blank them . Don’t let them waste your time/insult your intelligence

Dan, at 3:34 pm,

That’s still all largely meaningless. Far more English money goes north of the border every hour of the day, all year round to fund the indulgent lifestyles of wasters in Scotland than ever comes south as a financial value of electricity.

Maybe do a swap for a week? Scotland doesn’t send electricity south, and England doesn’t send money north? There’d be riots across Scotland.

What are you going to do with the surplus electricity? Scotland can’t store it.

@Geri says:26 October, 2023 at 2:48 pm

Plastic English man Main says

Or piss off. There’s a better idea

WooHoo, I feel 50 years younger. I never expected to hear those particular chat up lines ever again. Ah, happy days – for every 50 knock backs, maybes one glimmer of interest …

But restrain yersel, Geri, please. The wife checks in here from time to time. If she clocks this, it’s more bother than it’s worth tae me.

Soz.

Ruby

Re: what twistin’ one’s melon means

May I suggest that the Urban Dictionary meaning is dubious. Shaun Ryders utterances around that time rarely had a pre-empted meaning nor his lyrics. “Party” influence and lifestyle and a shooting the mouth off attitude turns plenty of nonsense into favoured sayings of musical groups and seeps into the lyrics. Such phrases are also used as ‘placeholder’ lyrics until better ones come along. Gotta love Shaun but he’s not Leonard / Bob.

A nonsense saying with a meaning foisted upon it by internet demand, guesswork and speculation. Sometimes there is no meaning just the sound.

Rev Stu

If you are currently struggling for subjects to write an article about may I respectfully suggest penning something about the 300 year old pish or maybe colonialism here in bonnie Scotland.

I know that this will bore the pants of the majority of your readers who are sane however just think of the fun the nutters would have gibbering on about something which, for once, constitutes the subject matter.

Another link about one of the forces driving the current conflict – US protestant (mainly) republicans. They also dislike environmental constraints – ‘what’s the point, current world’s about to end’. They love Trump. I see the avid pumpers on here as an offshoot sect.

link to archive.vn

I posted it is few days ago but can’t find it now. It’s the Washington Post.

A SCOT ABROAD
For your illumination.
link to oisf.org
link to assets.publishing.service.gov.uk
The latter makes no mention of Scotland, but trumpets, typically, the rôle of London.
Given that the British state has squandered hundreds of millions on a rail infrastructure scheme that has had to be abandoned, that trumpet is just Brit hot air.

If Scotland is being subsidised by England in or oil, gas, leccy, Barnett, and it is such a burden to those with their hand on their fore heads grasping at royal pearls.

Cut us free, we will manage not your worry let Scotland deal with it,

Strangely enough it is the union minded whom never state links to facts that are trying to hold on to Scotland,
Scotland is not trying to hold onto England,
There in is the story.

Unionists need Stop trying to hold on to a Country that is causing you so much financial grieve,
Let Scotland go.

I bet the next excuse is to role up your sleeves, fake the tears and pretend Scotland is to dumb a population to manage its own affairs

“Better together” headlines hides a lot of fear behind those very head lines,
Scotland is not as feared as England.
Thats why they have to pretend a 300 year old ancient “guff” treaty of union is in place to stop Scotland walking,
Only Selected ancient ” guff” history is the best history to hold the union together…..scrap or delete all the rest of history,

Brian Whittle described capitalism extremely well on Debate Night last night – citing Scottish universities’s student entry priorities – cash receipts- as the example.

I wonder if he realised just what he was describing.

There are a lot of highly intelligent Scottish people on Stu’s site that have done a lot of research on how Scotland has been shafted financially ( I believe Stu published many articles in the Wee blue book himself)
and regards professors on colonisation papers and books,
many have researched the territory of Scotland and liberation,
Sovereignty of people over parliaments and kings,
And others on the last monarch of Scotland, the stone of Destiny,
Others research all aspects of treaty of union.
Lord Coopers debate,
The MacCrone report,
While Others researched “breaches” to that fallacious treaty.

A discussion on the treaty of union and “all its ramifications to Scotland” is a excellent idea Chas, bring it on and give Scotlands people a voice,

Anthem,
It is a fact,
Scotland has been fighting for a long time to become independent from England,
England has equally been fighting for a very long time to prevent Scotland becoming independent from England.

The obvious truth is in there somewhere,

JockAbroad/Main/Yoonarian etc etc etc

“…bla bla bla bla bla….”

Utter bollocks upon utter bollocks but keep repeating it and hey, someone might believe it, right…?

“The total subsidy received by Scotland from the UK government per fiscal year is….zero.”

A statement from a Scottish independence supporter? Naw.

It was Tory minister William Waldergrave answering a written question in the English parliament. Sorry to shoot you down in flames yet again, JockAbroad.
Try and not fleck your keyboard with spittle, there’s a good chap.

Nu English says:

“There are currently two interconnectors coming to Scotland: one from Norway…”

Please supply evidence…
The North Sea Link interconnect that came online a couple of years back from Norway to the UK goes to Blyth (which is in England).
The license application for the proposed NorthConnect interconnect between Norway and Peterhead (which is in Scotland) was rejected by Norwegian Governemnt earlier this year.

MC Duff 1042.

Here Here well said that Manny \ WOS the home of True INDEPENDENISTAS all the more power on your keyboard Stuart .

@fruitella the hun says:26 October, 2023 at 4:38 pm

I see the avid pumpers on here as an offshoot sect

Maybes you should tell us all how you see the avid pumpers in, say, Russtiland, Saudi Arabia, India, etc.

How about the avid coal hewers in China?

Every year, oil consumption grows, and so does coal consumption. We here have essentially stopped our coal consumption, yet world consumption is growing. If we stop our oil & gas consumption tomorrow, world consumption will continue to grow.

I don’t think you have thought this through, Fruitella, in fact, I suspect you just like typing the word “pumper”.

Naughty! But, OK, having tried it, it is kinda fun.

When I read this
link to archive.ph

I thought it was this one finally being arrested

link to archive.ph

Apparently not it’s another one.

JockAbroad

“That’s 30 years ago”

So fcuking what? Oh aye I forgot, it’s the wrong type of oil we’ve got, right? Worthless.

Away and take a flying fcuk to yourself.

Friendly fire.
link to api.parliament.uk
Scots dragoon’s v Staffordshire’s
Maybe, he’s on our side???

sarah at 4:37 pm
“@ Dan: perhaps the Rev is waiting for complaints before he bans anyone? The only way we can now report people is his twitter account so all those with twitter, please contact the Rev.”

Tell him someone disagreed with you.

Nothing going on?
UK Covid Inquiry calls for WhatsApp messages from Scots Nats which appear to have been deleted or not handed in and the Scottish inquiry establishes that so harsh were the measures the SNP brought in during 2020/2021 that families had suicide pacts.
Nothing going on?
When, oh when is that ghastly witch Nicola going to finally be held up under the law of the land for decidedly dodgy behaviour. This is rank and disgusting.

Golden Plan for a better Scotland

Plan 1;
Ban the Social Sciences degree. Completely Outlaw it.

Any person putting themselves forward as a political candidate must be free of this affliction. Some strict rules are needed here to prevent the loophole of Arts, craft and design etc etc..

Make Scotland a better place.

Put the right people in the right job.

One person one flag.

John M

I have had enough contact with you to know that you will not accept the wisdom of rapidly diminishing our dependence on a substance that has brought the world to the edge of catastrophe. All you can see is the money still to be made (by massive corporations).

Nothing to say about the Christians who back the Israeli takeover of the West Bank reserve for Palestinians? They are the enablers that fuel insanity on both sides. But getting Jesus back is more important than peace to them. Nutters.

I’m sure that a few have probably come to the same conclusion but I had just come across this political idea of the Paradox of tolerance. The wiki link to it is below:

link to en.wikipedia.org

Essentially it is the notion that for a society to be totally tolerant, it needs to be intolerant to intolerance. We are seeing this for instance with the cancel culture and curtailing of free speech.

There may be arguments for and against that but my problem with it is that being intolerant to intolerance is curtailing political debate and in a democratic society, there is no way for ordinary citizens through the democratic process to decide what is tolerant and what is intolerant.

Taking the Trans debate for instance, there is no doubt that at the moment, there is a definite viewpoint in society about it and those who don’t agree with it are deemed intolerant and need to be cancelled.

However, inside this narrow viewpoint of the Trans debate, how much tolerance for debate? For example, my only issue with Trans is the protection of female spaces and children not being exposed to the Trans ideology. I feel that is a common sense and moderate position but what happens when someone decides that is an intolerant view and I need to get cancelled?

I can’t help but feel that we may need to take a step back and actual discuss what the values of our society really is and how do we balance collective values towards individual ones?

In short, do we become more socially conservative or more socially liberation? I’m sure there are people who have a definite answer for this but for myself, whom I view myself on the centre-left and value small p progressive ideals, this is more of a difficult one.

As well as coming across this idea of the paradox of tolerance I had come across this article.

It is an interesting read but what caught my eye is that the article is arguing that young people may be more socially progressive but that doesn’t necessarily mean that they will be left-wing and in turn gravitate towards left leaning progressive political parties.

If correct, it does put more a fly in the ointment of the SNP strategy being ultra-woke in order to attract the youth vote.

link to gq-magazine.co.uk

I’ve been spending quite a bit of time on YouTube where I watch clips and read the comments section. In the comments section, I have come across quite a lot of colourful terms and one of them is NPC. The wiki link to it is here:

link to en.wikipedia.org

The wiki description of a NPC is as follows:

The initial NPC refers to non-player character, a term used in video-games for characters the player cannot control. A non-player character typically interacts with the player through simple and repetitive actions, such as saying the same sentence each time the player approaches the NPC. As such, NPCs have “no internality, agency, or capacity for critical thought”, they rely on scripted lines and do not think for themselves.Following the analogy of non-player characters, the NPC meme is used to mock individuals the maker perceives as lacking introspection, individual opinions, or critical thinking, generally political opponents. Due to NPC memes’ greater popularity among the political right, the NPC is generally portrayed as parroting left-wing positions, but both left- and right-wing NPC variants exist.

This ‘NPC’ does reminds me of a few people who comment BTL on this site who continually repeats the same thing over and over again.

Geri @2.48.

Good post, well said!

I would add that short of cunting off the rev directly some of the fuckwits posting recently couldn’t be more disrespectful.

OT I was in the co-op today and found that they have started to tell their customers how nice women facers are and we should love them and all the other alphabetties. It’s their mission dream pledge vow…in the end just woke ‘be nice’ rubbish.

@Ruby says:26 October, 2023 at 5:51 pm

I also like nonsense lyrics … I might get into a bit of that

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You’ll have a right laugh reading some of the comments here then. I recomend James Che some berk called Baird and ROS. They’re all bonkers.

Hurry back Rev

The lunatics are taking over.

Mon the Dandy Dons.

Dons flying the flag for Scotland.

Thanks Stu for this site and allowing the btl .
Just noticed today another of our Union lovers MPs has been held to account for being a deviant sexual cunt of a human .
Crispin Blunt .
Really, “Crispin “ is the give away . He was the defender of another Tory pervert convicted of child abuse . He honestly called the conviction of a paedo as a miscarriage of justice.
In their demonic perverted world view that may be the case . We suffer some of these deviant minded on this btl . Greetings to Norfuk .
And yet another of our Union lovers Members has been charged and bailed till next summer, on believe it or not , sexual crimes.
Of Private Schools and Paedophiles eh !
Nicky Campbell says they’re all victims. Copyright BBC

WTF happened to Aberdeen?

2-1 up.

Ends 2-3.

What the fuck!!!

Ah well,, onwards and upwards.

Time to get down to work if you are worried about the gender and inappropriate sexual stuff being pushed into children’s heads at school.

There is a Scot Gov “consultation” with a deadline of 23rd November.

consult.gov.scot/learning-directorate/teaching-guidance-for-relationships-sexual-health/

Sadly, this consultation only refers to the actual specific class on the subject whereas we know that the stuff is slipped into every lesson and activity.

Dorothy Devine, Lorna Campbell, Ruby – I’m sure that you will feel that as many of us as possible should make our feelings known.

How to bold continued.
Forget the italic at the moment we’ll stick with bold

Start with opening bracket as shown in earlier post Type the text you want to bold. Then the closing bracket

this is the closing bracket for bold.

Once you’ve mastered this and you can bold then all the rest is easy.

Ruby the song is about drugs.

*Yer twisting my melon, man*

Yer doing my napper in. Yer doing my head in.

Usually said to a yappy mate who is stoned & talking gibbering shite! 😀

90s was mainly all drug tunes lol!

Ebenezer Goode was better.. Eeze =Ecstasy.
Eeze are good,
Eezs are good
He’s Ebeneezer good..
Anybody got any Vera’s? 😀
Naughty! Naughty…very naughty!

So funny when yer Mam sang along with no idea what it was about lol!

Oh shit my lesson on how to bold failed!
Try again

link to tinyurl.com

This is an image which shows what you’ve got to do to make a word bold

See the word Sam with its opening and closing B tags

That is what you have to do.
b thingy the word you want to bold followed the the other b thing.

The b tags wont appear in your post.
I can’t type the tags to show you how to do them because they disappear. Hence reason for image

Don’t worry if you don’t get it right all that will happen is your word wont bold.

Fingers crossed this works.

@ Ruby

” Stomping about in my high heels & shishing my skirt about is just what I need. Olé Baila Guapa! Baila! ” .

Hahaha , yr a hoot , sista . You got that Scottish ” duende ” , shu nuff 🙂

Regards GRR tolerance..

It’s Queer theory. The Illuminati want to kiddie fiddle without anyone meddling, especially from women. Trans was just the Trojan horse. They couldn’t give a shit about real trans people or gender dysphoria as proven when they were quick to introduce the *umbrella* term and add all the inane letters LGBTI2SQWERTY ++ shit & the garbage language to erase women which is zero to do with dysmorphia.

Queer theory is horrific. There are zero boundaries which basically means they can start sleeping with their dog if the notion takes them & they won’t be arrested or face criminal charges.

I doubt young ppl will vote for this. Especially young women.

Someone above mentioned contacting their MSP. I did. It was a total waste of time. His reply was the usual bullshit that this didn’t affect anyone’s rights or the equality act. It was only to make life simpler obtaining a GRC. Just the usual cloth ears..

Geri says:
26 October, 2023 at 10:41 pm

Ruby the song is about drugs.

Drugs? I thought it might have been about fruit. 🙂

Do you know the song ‘Mellow Yellow’ that was supposed to be about drugs ie smoking dried banana skins believed to be a hallucinogenic.

It turned out if was about a Yellow BOB.

Donovan saw an ad in a newspaper for a yellow dildo called the mellow yellow.

link to youtube.com

What ‘The Magic Roundabout’…. there were rumours!

Brian

LOL

So Shaun only added the twisting my melon man 😀 😀

Whit a con!

Reminds me of my nephew running in fae school to tell us about a *new* song ‘Tragedy’ by Steps…lol!

It works!