Wings Over Scotland

Although this doesn’t answer your question, it occurs to me that the Conservative Party (The Tories) appear to regard themselves as above the law, any law, and that the subject of sexual harassment does not apply to them.

Perhaps because they are BritNats and therefore not bound by the same scrutiny that other mortals have to abide to?

C’ mon Stuart that doesn’t seem difficult to answer.

Because unionist voters, politicians,and entire media have an infinite capacity for hypocrisy and lies.

Next.

I do get frustrated by the lack of support the SNP appears to give to party members and employees. Contrast the support given to the Civil Servants in the Alex Salmond case and the lack of support and party ownership of this researcher. Of course, due process (whatever that is in this case) must take place but it was Rape Crisis Scotland supporting this woman.

It’s as if when you get involved in a legal matter, no matter what your status, you get thrown under the bus like Michelle Thomson.

BBC Radio Scotland at great pains yesterday to highlight that he had been cleared and that he had thanked the SNP staff for their assistance.
I don’t think they mentioned that this was an internal party inquiry, nor was there a “critics say” comment from Rape Crisis Scotland.

The tiny story tab on the Sun website links to a Whoops there isn’t a story here search again page. Maybe they are gearing up to do a bigger story but why delete what they have already published? And it was way down the page hidden to the side too….go figure

What? Are you serious Rev? How on earth could the Unionist media give Mr Briggs a hard time?

He’s a Tory for goodness sake. Best forgotten. A storm in a Unionist teacup

The equation is simplicity itself .Politician + Unionist= guaranteed immunity.

Politician+ Indy supporter= guaranteed persecution.

The world is benighted by prejudice and discrimination. Don’t believe anyone who tries to tell you we live in post-racist and post-sexist times. This is the future that Scots can look forward to, subjugation as second class subjects of an English elite.

Misogyny, feminism, and sexual harassment

The term “misogyny” is derived from the Ancient Greek word “m?soguní?” which means hatred towards women. Misogyny has taken shape in multiple forms such as male privilege, patriarchy, gender discrimination, sexual harassment, belittling of women, violence against women, and sexual objectification.[1,2] The roots of misogyny can be traced back to ancient Greek mythology. According to Hesiod before women came into existence, men were coexisting peacefully as companions to Gods until Prometheus decided to steal the secret of fire from the God which angered Zeus. Zeus punished mankind with an evil thing for their delight called Pandora, the first woman who carried a box which unleashed all evils such as labor, sickness, old age, and death.[3]

As mythology spilled its vices about women, every religion had their own viewpoint. Hinduism presents diverse view about the position of women and some text place women as the highest goddess and some restrict them to the role of a mother, daughter and wife, as described in Manusmriti.[4] Tertullian, the father of Latin Christianity, said that being a female is a curse given by God and they are the Devil’s Gateway.[3] In Islam, the holy book Quran has a 4th chapter called An-Nisa meaning Women. The 34th verse is a key verse in feminist criticism of Islam which reads: Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient… But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance-[ first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them.[5]

Misogyny over years has evolved as an ideology which has engulfed the society as a smog which diminishes their site to aurora. Great philosophers, socialist, and thinkers of golden era were subdued by roars of male dominant society which narrowed their vision and made them a supporter of patriarchal society. Aristotle who was an ancient Greek philosopher and scientist was also a misogynist. He thought of women as a deformity, an incomplete male. He preached that men should always command and women should follow as they are the inferior being created by God.[6] Misogyny at its front had male supporters, but over years, few females also supported the ideology as stated by Sociologist Michael Flood.[7]

Over centuries, women have been suppressed, their rights were neglected as a human being, they were treated as an lower part of the society, and their roles were restricted to household chores and birthing. Prolonged oppression raised many voices and collectively led to a concept of feminism which started the longest movement in history which still continues….

link to ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

it ‘s bloody ludicrous and just underlines our utterly disgusting media.

I wish them all a day of judgement.

I don’t know about anyone else but I’ve just about had enough of this. Grrrr! Pulling my hair out now. Enough of British Nationalist politicians just taking it for granted that they can say and do what they like. Add to that Scotland being lumbered with the dregs of the World’s journalists: Blatantly biased and twisted as a corkscrew.

Well it won’t be too long now folks until the Scots have control over their own Parliament, housing politicians that serve us, not vice versa. Ridding ourselves of racists, misogynists, sectarian bigots, perverts and skivvers. Then we’ll set up our own version of IPSO and have a massive clearout of our propagandists. Post Independence I can see a large number of politicians and journalists signing up for their JSA.

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Do you reckon that Labour will win the next GE taking into account that they’re proposing another in/out EURef? They’ll no doubt lose support in England, so may not win at all, but it could lead to us losing SNP seats. If this comes to pass (in/out EU Ref), I think we should just ditch the idea of using a GE as a route to Independence.

It makes me want to vomit how the media especially the bastard bbc still claim to be impartial.

The Tory party dealt with this ‘in-house’. Or they think they have. If the allegations are serious enough the lady in question should make the complaint to the police.

Because the SNP has not yet spawned an ecology of reporters that will dig unionist dirt and scream and ball when they‘ve something.

One more example of how the BritNazi Establishment is vile, corrupt and dangerous to the point of being a danger to humanity.

I’m tired of repeating my Cassandra calls: it’s not too late to stop the rise of sociopathic Nazism in this wretched island.

March on Edinburgh this 6 October, in the hundreds of thousands.

Send a message: we’re coming for you.

But it is still a case of guilty until proven innocent, and mud sticks regardless of what is proven or not proven. It is also a case of anyone can accuse anyone of almost anything but remain anonymous. Going to the newspapers for money and continuing to accuse seems also to be a trend which kind of spoils the anonimity bit.

RCS is not doing real rape victims any favours by sensationalising what in a past era would have been solved by a slap in the face.

If this had been an actual accusation of rape then anonynimity is needed, but for both individuals.

AFAIK Labour are proposing a referendum on the Tory “deal”, which is not a deal, but are specifically ruling out a referendum on whether to leave the EU – as at close of play Monday.

UK is ruined whatever UK party is elected.

O/T

Labour trying to make a big deal about Richard Leonard being English after Richard Leonard mentions it in his speech.

Not seen any comments about his Englishness but it’s not a good look to become Labour leader in Scotland and then demand that no matter what the vote in Scotland Labour would not allow a referendum vote. Because this makes him look like a colonialist rather than have any interest in Scotland as a country. If he goes down that route then we have the write to ask questions.

Just to clarify I’m 50% English (parents), (75% English grandparents) and 0% Scottish if you go back further. I feel that I have the right to question MSP’s from England that don’t make Scotland a priority.

Ruth Davidson is … now focused on becoming FM…. the only prospect of this is if she is supported by Labour.

I have no doubt their greatest hope for their Union is to get an anti Indy majority in Holyrood2021. Heaven forbid they do, but if that disaster unfolds, they will undoubtedly form a government even if the SNP was the biggest party. Who would be their FM? Suppose it depends on which BritNat branch gets most seats, but could be Davidson.

OT Oil price $82. Norwegian coffers will be filling up nicely. Shame Scots never got their act together. Time yet, though.

Tory MSP Miles Briggs. ‘Smiles’.

A disgrace, and the Tories think it’s all over. I hope it is not all over.

PS:
Labour darn Sarf… 🙁

almost guarantee that..there is a near possibility that…and so on and on and on says the BBC! FGS!

O/T again, hopefully without spelling mistakes this time.

BBC News Scotland trying with the blood transfusion scandal to give the impression the Scottish Government was somehow involved. As these transfusions were in the 1970’s and 80’s it is a tenuous link to any of the devolved governments.

Not sure what Holyrood could add to this enquiry as the SNHS was run by the Scottish Office at the time, I would look to Mr Mundell to answer for Westminster run policy with the SNHS at the time.

Not sure why this has taken so long, it was clear they were buying in blood because it was presumably cheaper than increasing the blood donor service. They went for the chlorinated washed blood but didn’t bother to check if there was other contaminants.

I’m surprised Miles has been accused of sexual harassment by a woman, I’m pretty sure he’s gay

Obviously it’s possible to harass someone you’re not attracted to but I’m pretty sure it’s less common

Starmer’s speech pretty much gives Labour a full set of policies depending upon who you listen to. McDonnell ruled our Remain. McCluskey wants hard Brexit and Jeremy? He definitely and unequivocally wants something.

So which is it to be? Holding all positions and staying on the fence is pretty cynical.

@ William McNicol at 12:56pm ……… “…RCS is not doing real r*pe victims any favours by sensationalising what in a past era would have been solved with by a slap in the face…”

William we have no idea of what happened or …. not. For all we know it could have been an attempted r*pe. And we’re no longer living in a past era. If men don’t know by now what constitutes sexual harassment they should, and be cutting that type of behaviour out. Not waiting to see how far they can go before they get a slap in the face.

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Astonished too that William’s post got through when mentioning the r*pe word in full!

O/T

have a quick look at the BBC N.Ireland website – Arlene Foster is in the hot-seat testifying in Court about the Heating scandal in N.Ireland. Currently blaming some other Minister whom she regrets not having sacked 3 months earlier.

Sorry Missus, if you’re the Boss, you have to take the hit for your team. You can’t blame someone else and try to excuse yourself by saying you should have sacked him earlier. You didn’t, so you called it wrong – bingo, accept the consequences.

@Mike Lothian,

Rabbi Jacob Staub PHD ,who is gay, wrote an article on this very thing. He noticed that his own behaviour with women often made then uncomfortable ,although he being a gay man perceived no threat at all. He realised that he was acting towards them as he would with other gay men, but the instinctive fear among the females involved,perceived somewhat threatening sexual signals coming from a male personna. They did not know he was gay in any event.

He has since modified his behaviour.

I believe the expression you seek is “corruption”.

More britnat media hypocrisy. Boycott all britnat media. Let the Rev expose their deceit.

OT From the Express …

“TWO-thirds of those who voted Leave in the referendum two years ago are not bothered about the details of Brexit – just as long as the UK gets out of the EU.”

So, a third of Leave voters have changed their minds completely or are beginning to think conditionally about Brexit? Presumably some leavers therefore don’t want a crash and burn Brexit.

As far as I can understand it, the Miles Briggs “internal examination” is purely what it is, an internal Conservative group “enquiry” with no legal standing whatsoever.

It’s basically a group of friends meeting and conniving with the brit. nat.media to get one of their cronies of the hook.

There is nothing AFAIK to stop the woman who was harassed and R@pe Crisis Scotland from taking this to a lawyer and pressing charges with the police.

Auld Rock , they are being kept in the dark by the duplicitous media – they can’t react as they are ignorant of the facts.

This is an absolute disgrace. Cleared by a Tory party internal inquiry, well, well, there’s a big surprise. NOT.

I think that this lady, as she appears to have witnesses should go to the police. Let them do a proper investigation.

As every speaker at the Labour conference contradicts the last speaker on their Brexit position, Labour supporters on twitter say it is us that are blind. We just don’t see the subtlety and genius of their policy. And I have to agree with them, I can’t see any real difference between them and the Tories position on Brexit.

So either I’m too thick or they are talking nonsense, I have a feeling it’s not because I’m thick but who knows. Maybe Corbyn is a genius and I just can’t spot it (he has hidden it under a bushel for some time though).

All watching the one show tonight on BBC1 to see Davidson being interrogated on her day job. Do you know she’s having a baby.ahhhhj

The National: ‘R*pe Crisis Scotland raise concerns over Miles Briggs hearing as more details emerge.’

”More details have emerged of the night that saw Tory MSP Miles Briggs accused of sexual harassment by an SNP worker.

The shadow health secretary was cleared by an internal party hearing yesterday, but Rape Crisis Scotland, who represent the complainant, say they have serious doubts about the robustness of the inquiry.

Reports in the Times say that an SNP worker had originally accused Briggs of putting his head between her breasts, draping himself over her and making lewd sexual comments.

The two had been in a heated discussion about the r*pe clause at a house party in Edinburgh, following a reception at the French consulate.

Briggs said that his life had become a “living hell” after the allegations and admitted that he had left the party calling the “complainant” a crazy bitch, but he insisted he never sexually harassed the woman.

At least one other SNP staff member gave statements supporting Briggs’s version of events.

On the day of the alleged incident, politicians and party staff had attended a reception at the consulate in Edinburgh after a rugby match between the Scottish and French parliaments. Guests then drifted off to a house party.

The woman claimed Briggs “draped himself” over her at the reception, pinned her against a wall, caressed her hair and made lewd comments about her state of arousal.

According to his version of events, the woman had sought him out at the reception and started an argument about the r*pe clause policy which limits child tax credit to the first two children with an exemption clause for “non-consensual” conception.

Briggs said she continued berating him about the policy over the course of the night before he lost patience, called her a “crazy bitch”, and went home.

The panel found his account “more probable”.

A witness also said that the complainant had originally claimed that Briggs had “motorboated” her — vigorously rubbed his face between her breasts — shortly after the alleged incident, but that she had then not included that allegation in her final account.

An SNP staff member gave evidence in person on behalf of Briggs and eight other witnesses backed his account.

The panel considered written evidence from the complainant and two people who supported her account. They refused to take part in the hearing as it would mean being cross examined by Briggs.

After the two-hour hearing Briggs said: “The allegations are completely false. I was able to supply the party’s disciplinary committee with several witness statements from individuals who were with me the entire evening and which not only challenged but contradicted these allegations and events that evening. I am especially grateful to the SNP parliamentary researchers who were among those who supported my case.”

Sandy Brindley from R*pe Crisis Scotland was furious about the process.

“This is why women are reluctant to come forward with sexual harassment complaints,” she said. “The woman is this case faced a process which was intimidating and inappropriate.

“She was asked to attend a hearing, without representation, to be questioned by the MSP she had made the complaint about.

“When we raised concerns about this, the Conservative party offered for her to be ‘cross examined’ by the chairman, who would put Mr Briggs questions to her, along with questioning from the rest of the committee.

“We pointed out repeatedly that an adversarial approach such as this was not appropriate in a case of this nature.”

The charity boss said they had “such significant concerns about the process being followed” that they advised the complainant and her two witnesses not attend the hearing.

Brindley added: “The fact that the Scottish Conservatives issued a press call for journalists to interview Miles Briggs about his reaction to the outcome of today’s hearing, prior to the hearing even starting, raised significant concerns for us about whether the woman in this case ever had any possibility of justice.”

The complainer said: “I’m gutted that Miles has been found to have done nothing wrong. I’m sad and angry that the process was so terrible that it felt as though this end result was written from very early on.

I want to focus on changing the process so anyone in future can have confidence that someone’s power will not protect them and that they will be treated better than I have been.”

link to thenational.scot

I’m slowly catching on here, I have to admit , I missed the Fat Fingered Donside Mark …”dinghied”
I thought he was treated a bit rough at the time.

Back on track with the Tory let off on here.

Libdems & Labour have a golden opportunity to get one over the Tories ……..silence.
Confirming much more about them.

What’s wrong is trial by media, and exposing the name of an alleged harasser. Whether that’s McDonald, Salmond – or Briggs.

That in itself prevents a fair hearing, not just for the suspect, but any victims. And in that respect the FM does appear to favour the female alleger (s), and pay less attention to preserving the rights of the male to be innocent until proven guilty.

Been out all day and just thought I’d catch up. Where are we at with Labour on Brexit currently? For, against, in without being in, out without being anywhere near in, or moved to the outer rim of the solar system?

Y’know, seein’ as how the (not even remotely) United Kingdom is under six months away from yer (currently) akchul date of commencement? It might be good if HMG’s less than honourable opposition could let the rest of the populations on these island know.

Ta much! Oh and not in their own time. Now would be good.

Everybody is the SNP knows before they go into Holyrood or the HOC or indeed any position within the SNP that they have to be *Bleach clean* and continue to be so because the media will dig microscopically to the Nth degree to find anything they can smear them with and even then they are prepared for the media and opposition just making it up

The opposition parties have no such scrutiny and never will unless whatever they do happens to be on a public high street on CC TV with two dozen witnesses, and even then they still have a good chance of getting away with it

There is one particular MSP in Holyrood who when in attendence appears let’s say is well refreshed quite regularly and for obvious reasons I won’t say which party she/he represents but I can cut it down by saying it’s NOT the SNP
and it’s not a medical condition either

Y’see if they don’t speak you don’t notice but the Presiding officer probably knows yet does nothing in clear breach of Parliamentary rules

I mean who do these people think they are? Lord George Ffoukes or many other members of the House of Lords

No more news on the Red and Blue Tory councillors in Falkirk ‘and a third man’ arrested by the police over ‘planning’ irregularities.
If this were two SNP Councillors, it would run and run.
perhaps the fact that they are brother Masons in the same Lodge, and register their interests as members of the OO has been instrumental on this potential scandal disappearing from the Media.
I read Tom Gordon’s version of this the other day.
Scoop Gordon couldn’t find out the name of the ‘Third Man’?
Triple cover up? Brit Nat shield of invincibility, the masonic web of secrecy, and Loyal sons of Will I Am?
Anybody know who ‘the third Man’ is?
Is he too big to name?

Gisela Stuart demonstrating the skewed and dishonest thinking of the Government and the Brexiters. It is similar to the darkened logic of someone preparing to commit suicide, convinced they are making the right decision.

link to theguardian.com

Gisela Stuart is chair of Change Britain and the former Labour MP for Birmingham Edgbaston

Interesting article, CameronB Brodie @ 12.15pm

It is difficult to ascertain whether the historical inferior status of women has always existed or is a consequence of the changing power dynamic of later human societies.

The major monotheistic religions had their origins in the crucible of early human civilizations – Mesopotamia. In that region, it is possible to see in succeeding civilizations – Sumer, Babylonia through to the Assyrian Empire – the deteriorating status of women. The Assyrians actually regarded women as not being human and they were subjected to the most cruel punishments in the Assyrian Law Code. It was also the Assyrians who decreed that women should always be veiled to separate them from ‘harlots’ who were the only women ‘permitted’ to be seen unveiled.

Religions often simply reflected in codified form, the development of power structures in society and as well as Assyria being highly centralized in an aggressive, expansionist empire, the religion was moving towards having one dominant deity.

It has been said, in the development of religion through the ages, that yesterday’s deity becomes today’s demon. That might have been the case for women also, in that the demoting of mother goddesses had gradual consequences for the status of women generally. Or even vice versa?

( Sorry, a bit off-topic but you can always ignore.)

I came across a YouTube report by some foreign TV company about Brexit. It was interviewing an apparently well known professor who certainly sounded British.

Unfortunately by the time I finished what I was doing the YouTube video had gone and I couldn’t find it again.

However, in the bit I did watch this professor made a very good point and it was this.

Once Theresa has handed in the formal request for the United Kingdom to the European Union the date is set and the United Kingdom will exit whether there is a deal or no deal.

There isn’t any second chances in this matter. The exit is certain and the time when it could be withdrawn has passed.

There will now be a United Kingdom exit – deal or no deal – the United Kingdom will no longer be an European member state.

Furthermore, the professor made the point that in fact the European Union cannot agreed to any of the EU Freedoms being eased in any way.

What is more he said that certain, none too friendly to the UK, member state leaders had expressed publicly that they would be very glad to see the back of the UK as the UK, since they joined, had been nothing but trouble for the EU and had always seemed to imagine they had some special rights to get better treatment than everyone else.

He then said, as every state has a veto, no matter if the European Commissioners, (the EU Civil Servants), tried to agree to a deal there were member states who wanted the United Kingdom gone and were ready to veto any deal.

I’ll have another search but have failed to find the video and it was labelled as being only 22 minutes old when I watched part of it this morning.

That is a party political one show on behalf od Ruth Davidson.

Half an hour of book advertisement for Wee Ruthie , aye Bbc the advertisement free public forced payment subscription channel .

Dont pay the Bbc Licence Fee TAX.

youtube.com/watch?v=LK0pOXyV9fQ
How come this wee song has been rattling roon ma heid ever since I saw yon Rick Dotard making his “speech”?

Robert Peffers

Was it Professor Michael Dougan?

link to youtube.com

JGedd @6:30pm today
Fascinating, I tend towards the power dynamic thesis, as I reckon the development of monist cultures essentially ensured the exclusionary social power dynamics we live with today. 😉

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From the twitter account of the Head of Communications for Channel 4 news.

“THREE blockbuster political interviews on Channel 4 News tonight:

The Prime Minister, the man who wants to be prime minister and the woman who says she’ll never be prime minister”

And you can here the missing bit screaming to get out

“BUT WOULD WALK INTO THE JOB IF SHE WANTED IT BECAUSE SHE’S A BLOCKBUSTER POLITICIAN”

Never won an election in all the time she’s led her party up here.

They just don’t get Scotland, do they?

“suspended from the SNP while the inquiry took place, and eventually kicked out, suspended temporarily from Parliament and banished to a basement office far from other MSPs.

He’s now invariably referred to as “shamed MSP Mark McDonald”, was ludicrously castigated by former colleagues as a risk to the safety of staff, and is widely expected to lose his seat at the next election.”

There is nothing more shameful than an SNP MSP literally getting into bed with Dugdale the enemy, in my humble opinion.

If the SNP could treat innocent SNP MSP Mark McDonald in this way, it should have treated the SNP Tractor in a much worse way.

The SNP is fast becoming an Establishment party – its Westminster leader recently sided with Saint Theresa in attacking Alex Salmond and RT.

Mark my words – Establishement lawyer Nicola will not dare call an independence referendum before Brexit has been completed and Scotland is at the mercy of Westminster.

To the EU, Scotland will have the same status as Catalonia.

The EU didn’t quite rush to defend Catalonia did it?

Challenge to the clueless pompous armchair pundits posting here:

Does a single one of you have the guts to go on the record and state that there will definitely be an independence referendum before Brexit has been completed?

Robert Peffers?

Liz g?

sassenach?

Dave McEwan Hill?

Cubby?

Petra?

Brian Doonthetoon?

I see that another two of my posts haven’t appeared and I’m not going to try to post the link again (and lay the article out in full as I’m on my IPad now). It would be well worth everyone’s while to read the report on the Briggs case in the National. It’s a bit of an eye-opener to say the least.

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Another scunnersome thing about Ruth Davidson is that she’ll probably make a load of dough with her book, because it’s not just about her, as I thought ……. boring. She’s interviewed at least 17 women including her boss, Big T, Professor Sue Black (whom I really admire – and suffered from sexual abuse as a child), and so on. Typical Tory “user” lining her own pockets. Imo, she came out about her prior “issues” to promote this book. How much of the proceeds of her book do you think she’ll donate to mental health charities?

link to amazon.co.uk

manandboy @ 17:52,

I think Starmer deliberately went off-script to put one over Corbyn, McDonell and their puppetmaster McCluskey. And very niftily done, it was too.

However, the outcome of all that bravado and high principle seems to have morphed this evening into that it’s only after a UKGE isn’t called that Labour will support a “Peoples’ Vote”. Which rather begs two questions:

Maybe it’s even Schroedingers’ ball. Sometimes it’s in one place and sometimes it’s in another, depending on when you look.

@ Robert Louis at 7:44pm ….. “Davidson on TV AGAIN.”

She’s not interested in being a politician now especially as she sees that the Tories are ready to implode down south. Bunch of morons etc. She’ll never become FM of Scotland either and she knows that too. She’s got her eye on being on television every other day in the week as some kind of political presenter, imo.

On C4 news tonight Davidson actually says she has her own mandate in Scotland. Not challenged or asked to explain what she means. Not aware she has ever won any political election. Perhaps she has been elected chair of her local mother and baby group. Incredible how Davidson is always given such soft interviews on all tv channels. It was like a Ruth Davidson is brilliant party political broadcast.

Davidson the self promoters ultimate self promoter.

Contrast this interview with Corbyn in the same programme where he is given an extremely hard time.

Robert peffers have you tried your YouTube search history?

Labour Rebuilding Britain

For the many (ENGLAND) not the few (SCOTLAND, WALES, N.IRELAND)

jfngw Re Ruth winning her seat in Edinburgh with the help of Labour……she still only just managed it because Patrick Harvey decided to stand his one and only Green candidate in that same seat effectively splitting the pro indy vote (many SNP voters even gave Greens their 2nd vote!) link to en.wikipedia.org

Re. social structure in contemporary Britain. Traditional, Marxist, class-based analysis is soooooo 1970s. These are post-feminist, post-modern, globalised times we live in.

The fall and rise of class analysis in British sociology, 1950-2016
The decline of class analysis 1970-2000
I have argued that the great tradition of class analysis established in Britain in the immediate post war decades was unsustainable. It was premised on a model of the white male worker which could only be seen as nostalgic in the context of late 20th century Britain. It is therefore completely explicable why growing interests in gender inequality and changing position of women, and concerns with racism and the position of ethnic minorities could only appear to undermine the project of class analysis as a whole.

link to eprints.lse.ac.uk

@Robert J @ 8:42

I’m not forgetting about that at all, or underestimating The legal opinion of Lord Carloway. Pay particular attention to note 7 which is the crux of the matter really. (ie whether or not there is a 3rd way in the event of no deal)The matter will still be in the hands of WM regardless. Have you actually read the judgement ?

The judgement I am more interested in and I believe will be a catalyst to indyref2 being called is the supreme court one in a month or so.

Considering the potential of both of these rulings, the move to have the claim of right recognised by WM (more specifically the tories) was actually genius. Rulings aside, the way that the UK govt negotiations are going we are heading toward being in a position where the EU easlily can and will, and I quote from Jens Zimmermann member of the German Parliament from Jan 2017, “Regulate the sh*t out of the UK”. Which he said in response to May’s empty threat to play hardball.

As for the ECJ ruling that you refer to (which I agree is significant). How do you seriously think that will play out in WM even if it lands in our favour ?

That said, the reality of the situation is that the worse things look for the UK, the better the chance we have of attaining independence.

Anent the Briggs whitewash, why did the complainant take her problem to the Tories instead of to the Scottish Parliament? A crew shot through with bigots & dodgy cash were never going to give her a fair hearing?

Petra says:
25 September, 2018 at 8:51 pm

“I see that another two of my posts haven’t appeared”

Please learn from your past mistakes and don’t repeat them:

Petra says:
9 October, 2017 at 12:55 am

“Well I’ve tried to post this on numerous occasions tonight, to no avail.”

Rev. Stuart Campbell says (to Petra):
6 October, 2017 at 11:09 am
(“Have I Got Evasion For You”)

“I’m going to say this one last time and then, with the very greatest of reluctance, I’m going to ban you for NOT FUCKING LISTENING.

DO.

NOT.

POST.

THE.

SAME.

COMMENT.

REPEATEDLY.

If it falls foul of the filters the first time you try, THE SAME FUCKING THING WILL HAPPEN EVERY OTHER TIME. OBVIOUSLY. The filters don’t change from one comment to the next. All you do is create a giant mess for me to clean up behind the scenes. You do it over and over again. I don’t know how many times I have to say it.

Sometimes I have to go out. Sometimes I’m just taking a break for a few hours. When I get back, I’ll check the comments needing approval and your comment will be approved. That’s how it works. That’s how it’s always worked. That’s how it will continue to work. Everyone else manages to follow the rules.

Your posts are enormously long, and when I get in and find 20 of them in the approval queue, all several screens high, I have to scroll endlessly up and down trying to work out which ones are new and which ones are the same ones posted five times in a row. It’s UNBELIEVABLY tedious and time-consuming and soul-destroying and I’ve FUCKING WELL TOLD EVERYONE NOT TO DO IT A HUNDRED TIMES.

Do not do it again. We clear?”

Britnats fighting amongst themselves in the britat media. Great fun. But we must use their internal squabbling to Scotland’s advantage.

Fred 10.30pm

I suggest the complainant is a Tory.

Dear Rock, @ 10.36pm

I’m quite sure that the Rev Stu, in fact I know, the Rev Stu can and does post his own comments, as and when he feels the need.

The fact you cut and pasted a previous one and then hit out at Petra, is not appropriate. Bullying in fact. It’s not your site to Police.

I will never forget the post Petra put out, sketching out a bit of Scottish History regarding the women carers who had been robbed and discriminated against, and their shoddy treatment by Labour and the subsequent long drawn out legal battle.

I knew women who worked in that field and in that area, and although they got out to other occupations, they witnessed it. That was their friends and colleagues. That was another bit of Scottish History swept under the carpet.

And Petra was there, and she fought, and she’s still standing, still fighting yet. Quality.

In accordance with the rules, I will contact The Rev and report your conduct.

Kindest regards to all. Best wishes, and a computer free from glitches future, to all.

JGedd
Indeed. I also think a woman’s historical place in the word mirrors Scotland’s place in the ‘Union’, which is to be subordinate to the political concerns of another nation. Subsequently, Scotland lacks effective agency and suffers an emotional dissonance.

Woman’s Place: A Critical Review of Anthropological Theory

Abstract

Primitive societies and barbarous societies and the historical societies of Europe and the East exhibit almost every conceivable variety of institutions, but in all of them, regardless of the form of social structure, men are always in the ascendancy, and this is perhaps the more evident the higher the civilization … so far as I can see, it is a plain matter of fact that it is so. Feminists have indeed said that this is because women have always been denied the opportunity of taking the lead; but we would still have to ask how it is that they have allowed the opportunity to be denied them …

link to cambridge.org

#DissolveTheUnion

@ Cubby at 11.04

I suggest the complainant is a Tory.

She’s being described as an “SNP worker”, eg here:
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stewartb @ 4.23pm and Auld Rock @3:05 pm on our significant new gas and oil reserves.

Have not heard a cheap from anyone in the SNP on this and especially when any of the hierarchy are live on air. Are they ever going to grasp the mettle of seizing opportunities for the use of message soundbites. So many chances lost in not rocking the establishment boat, one could almost think they are part of the establishment.

I like many others waited in vain at indyref1 for the great SNP push that never came.

Petra @ 20:51,

O/T I just want to say that IMO you are a real asset to this site, unlike the Neolithic One who is a dead loss. I’m also fairly confident that virtually everyone here shares this opinion, with only one likely exception.

“Numquam illegitimus carborundum.” Keep on posting!

PS: I’ve also had the occasional lost posting of late. Submitted virtually the same message later which got through without a problem. Sometimes I’ve seen postings appear immediately after being sent (as in days of yore), other times it seems to take absolute ages.

Try to make sure though that name and e-mail address are spelt correctly, since typos there are the obvious main reason for “disappearances”.

(Incidentally, that may possibly include wee finger-slips onto control keys that might then get included without being visible. Or am I just being paranoid?

The other apparently arbitrary source of loss may be down to some issue with the site.)

Everywhere you look every day of the week you see British Nationalist parties obsessing over the SNP and constantly claiming the SNP keep banging on about Independence

Yet everywhere you look you never see the SNP talking about any of these things at all
When you look even at the FMs twitter there are more Britnats trolling and abusing her most of them moaning about her banging on about Independence when she never mentioned the word and all she’s doing is visiting a school or opening a business or a building or attending something medical

Of course it’s all to force it into the minds of the easily led but the trouble is they are easily led
My granddaughters teacher told her class to remember to wear warm winter clothing next week because of the expected blizzards, my granddaughter asked how she knew about this and the reply came *The Daily Express* and of course I laughed out loud immediately then after a nano seconds thought realised the obvious that my granddaughters teacher is a moron who just advertised the Daily Express as a truthful and accurate document of news which instantly threw up murderous thoughts in my head for a teacher who would behave this way, because you can’t tell me that’s an accident

Teachers are trusted to impart information and pupils accept it as true because the teacher said so and it doesn’t matter that her grandfather *me* is wiser far more educated and compared to the average teacher in high school well let’s say more extensively qualified, I don’t know what I’m talking about because I’m a silly old grandad

We have a lot of teachers in our schools who are imparting their opinions instead of teaching the pupil how to form their own opinions and that bothers me a lot

@Meg merrilees and others
Havevn’t noticed Keir Starmer before, surprisingly I don’t follow party politics that much. But I did hear him on the news at the conference, and he was instantly very impressive, including that “little bit” about the referendum that he inserted and wasn’t in the version given to the journalists.

Solid pedigree, QC, knows how to use just a few seconds to maximum advantage. If Cirby goes and Starmer stands, good chance he’s in and yes, fair chance of no Brexit.

@Rock
Fuck off and leave people alone you bullying bastard.

You never know what you’re going to find on arrival on here, LOL. Wee Chippie’s not getting any attention, not happy and desperation is setting in. Pathetic. He / she can now see that their beloved Union is over and out. Suffice to say thanks to Daisy, RJS and yesindyref2.

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BBC News: WOW nothing negative.

No deal Brexit bad for Scotland, Edinburgh tourist tax, new research shows that teenagers in Scotland are drinking less (from 41% to 11/14% – girls/ boys over the last 10 years), scientists have created a new botanical gin library and fitba.

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However your daily dose of BBC propaganda.

link to thoughtcontrolscotland.com

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@Petra
Apologies for my language 😎

I’m just putting this here, in case AUOB organisers haven’t made the connection already.

From the Hearld (5th August this year)

“Judge Frances Eccles ruled that sovereignty and self-determination are weighty and substantial aspects of human life and the merits of McElenys case can now go forward to a full hearing. ”

So HES are on shaky legal ground here, classing it as political in nature.

I suggest they be gently informed of the error of their ways – and possibly an interdict sought to allow stalls and stage to go ahead.

Hi yesindyref2.

My understanding is…

Originally, the rally was to be in the grounds outside the Holyrood Parliament – the green bit with the big puddle where previous rallies have taken place. This is under the control of the parliament authorities.

When the numbers like “100,000+” started to be mentioned, it was deemed unsafe for stalls to take up space needed for people.

It looks like permission was been sought to use the larger Holyrood Park, which is administered by Historic Scotland.

link to historicenvironment.scot

It has been suggested that with the numbers expected, Calton Hill would have been a better venue, due to having more space.

Willie @ 7.19am

Your point is fine, in theory, but, in practice – how does the SNP persuade “a biased press” to print their defence of the biased attack?

If, as we know they are, the Unionist press is sent a press release, defending the SNP against that same Unionist press’s biased attack – there is no way that defence will go in, unless so-heavily censured and altered as to make it useless.

I hope the snp are keeping a list of all their articles of defence that don’t see the light of day in the Unionist press.

One day the truth will out. Hopefully very soon.

So Tory poster boy Myles Briggs defends the rape clause, calling a woman a crazy bitch then is cleared of any wrongdoing by the Tory party. Will that convince the public that they’re fit for public office?
I hae ma doots.

Links

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To maximise Scotland’s #export growth potential, we are investing £20million to help the next wave of export ready businesses.
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A giant Moray Firth wind project will create 150 jobs and add £90 million to the local economy, developers have said.
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After Salzburg: Time for Realistic UK Proposals on the Irish Border and Future Relations
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link to chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com

Exclusive – EU open to free trade but not Chequers customs plan: document
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Brexit: the impact on aviation
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Bad move
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frogesque at 9.19

Maximum capacity at Princess Street Gardens is about 30,000. Far too small.

link to politico.eu

link to handpickedaccountants.co.uk

link to politico.eu

Davidson is appearing on lbc this morning, see comments below this tweet
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Calton Hill is a fine spot and the weather forecast at the moment is set fair so other than being a bit of hike for those less mobile it should suffice. However, it is tad unreasonable of Historic Unionists to pull the plug so late. Clearly a deliberate ploy and one they should be pinged over.