Wings Over Scotland

@Al-Stuart

But why would you need a second chamber, it’s not like an indy Scotland will want to adopt a bureaucratic HoL counterpart as MSPs already sit and already govern Scotland on devolved matters, plus I don’t think Holyrood would need a further 59 personnel for legislature.

I think, and purely my opinion that the SNP do not help themselves by even sitting in WM at all. They complain they are never listened to, which they are probably right, but still continue to TRY to be heard. They willingly acknowledge their seat at Westminster which is recognition of the Union and the legal and parliamentary procedures of the realm.

Still I think a Sinn Fein approach is the other extreme, I mean, they refuse to take their seats in WM so also refuse to actually represent their constituents in London.

RM @ 8:45

Farage, Trump, Johnson – bampots to a man who thrive on a cult of personality perpetuated by a servile media.

We simply need an FM with the courage, intellect and conviction to raise the SNP’s game and take the cabinet, parliament and the country forward in the face of both a hostile media and a lying and manipulative Tory PM.

A pity we don’t have those qualities in our current FM.

@Tjenny

Shereen presents a weekly BBC radio *let’s run down the SNP* chat show every Saturday morning on radio Scotland with her permanent and constant guest Tom Harris ex Labour MP who now admits he’s a Tory (after he was voted out)

This morning *Call Kaye* has decided she wants an MBE too so she’s inventing facts and putting words into peoples mouths all over the place to make the uncharged no court action Mark McDonald and Derek McKay SNP sound worse than the Aberdeen Tory councillor who committed and actual crime was found guilty and placed on the Sex Offenders register

And the Tories are calling it a SNP witch hunt

You’d think you couldnae make it up, but they have and the BBC are helping to defend them by saying maybe the guy shouldn’t stand down and try to be elected again because people with a political agenda won’t vote for him

Well Aye, because he’s a ffffffg politician, so it’s political

The BBCs *Call Kaye* thinks Scotland is far too political about politics and we should all pay less attention to it

Aye right, OK Kaye

Hope most here can recall the US dropping Napalm Bombs on
Civilian Villages.

A famous picture of the time showed a young Vietnamese girls running away
From the village naked as her clothes had been burned from her body and the
Napalm gel clung burning on her flesh as it was designed to do.

The Syrian situation is inhuman and it sits on a par with both US and English atrocities.

I watched the Head of the East Kent Tory Trust on breakfast news today.
No wonder there have been and are so many needless deaths there and so
Many babies left with needless disabilities.

The woman’s attitude and minimal management skills were blatantly unacceptable.
I can only imagine she has kept her job as she balances the books regardless of the
Consequences imposed on the patients.

Aberdeen Unionist parties fighting to keep convicted sex pest deputy Mayor in office
as his removal would open up the possibility of SNP taking control.

Immorality and the welfare of Aberdonians takes second place to keeping the incompetent
Unionists with their nose in the trough.

London Labours branch manager in Scotland Richard Leonard is being urged to probe into Labour councillors in Glasgow City council. Its thought his councillor’s sent sensitive information that could’ve only come from the GCC to a loyalist Twitter account in Belfast.

Derogatory and personal attacks were then sent to SNP councillors from the account, including fornm of hate speech and what could be construed at physical threats.

Englands branch office manager in Scotland denies any Labour involvement.

link to thenational.scot

So it looks like Johnson, who called Scots at PMQ’s yesterday “These People” is setting up a contingency plan, to move the COP26 out of Glasgow to London.

Talks have already taken place with the venue ExCel in London. The Tory government has played down the talks as a back up plan.

Meanwhile the Tory government has rejected calls for the UK to remain permanently aligned with the EU on employment rights, environmental laws etc.

Our work place rights, and our environment look set to take a big hit.

Lesley Riddoch.

Exposes unionist hypocrisy over the Queensferry Crossing fake saga. Illustrating disastrous construction cock-ups South of the border that have cost the taxpayers billions. That Carlaw and Cole-Hamilton don’t want you to know about.

link to thenational.scot

Stop dithering Sturgeon and do as the man says. For all our sakes.

link to thenational.scot

Aonghas Mac Néill aka Angus MacNeill it seems has enough ‘backbone’ to furnish the entire SNP.
Blackford and his ‘gold standard’, who does he think he’s dealing with in London? Winnie the Poo?

A story about another Labour person.

link to smh.com.au

Do as we say NOT as we DO.

“Former Aberdeen Conservative Councillor Alan Donnelly had denied kissing and touching a man who was working at an event in the city.

He was ordered to pay compensation, but has resisted calls to stand down as well as saying he will not hide.

Administration councillor Marie Boulton said she did not condone his crime, but that “harassment” had to be avoided.

A three-day trial heard one of the victim’s supervisors say he was “trembling and shaking” when he reported the incident to her.

The man – who cannot be named for legal reasons – said Donnelly approached him, made comments about him being good-looking, and asked him questions about where he was from.

Calls for an Aberdeen councillor found guilty of sexual assault to resign must not become a “witch hunt”, it has been claimed.

Former Conservative Alan Donnelly had denied kissing and touching a man who was working at an event in the city.

Councillor Boulton, an ‘independent’ member of the administration, said: “What we can’t do is start a witch hunt. I think we’ve to be very careful that we’re not seen to advocate bullying or harassment.

“That’s in no way condoning what Councillor Donnelly has done and been convicted of but we have to respect the the court’s carried out its role, we’ve carried out our role.

“I think we just have to get on with business for the city.”

Hmm…..Donnelly has now resigned from the Conservatives….so obvs Conservatives have NO control whether to demand he should resign his post….obvs….and also apparently obvs that as a ‘former’ conservative there should be NO witch hunt….and deffo should not be an ongoing story highlighted by MSM for like…days and days obvs.

CARNAGE IN DOWNING STREET

With useful insights into behind the scenes.

link to theguardian.com

SNP. BACK TO SCHOOL?

link to newsletter.co.uk

Education education, education. Then Independence.

this dangerously persistent recurrence of trans-madness, seems so suspicious given :

– how few real trannies there are
– the mental problems they suffer (how?), self harm, attempts at suicide, hysterical behaviour

how could they possibly become this terrifyingly powerful all-aspect lobby … well, it’s all depressingly obvious innit – there’s a hidden hand, organisation and money, tons of money behind it; this article “identifies” possibly the main culprits

oligarchs who like to do social engineering, one of them him/her/it/them/they-self a trans-thing (see first pic – its like “tinder from hell”)

link to unz.com

– these foiks also expect to get a return; they are heavily invested in medicine and pharma; how much does it cost to “transition” and how much continuing medical treatment does it need ever after?

– their ability to just buy medical/scientific credibility at top tier institutions via the cheque-book is alarming.

Javid, now outside the tent pissing in.

Scot Finlayson
10:51 am
“thanks for link to Oxford Union debate 1964 with Hugh McDiarmid and Malcolm X involved”

your very welcome,i put it up for u after seeing your earlier
comment.
if anyones interested it’s here,
Hugh 51 mins
Malcolm 1hour 13 mins

I bet old hugh was impressed.

link to youtube.com

Mist001…7.45am

T Sheridan is not being ground down don’t be daft

He is a socialist first
If U.K. had a socialist government that was likely to last more than one term T Sheridan would still be Labour

He shifted support to Scottish independence because

He knows that the tories will be in government U.K. for the foreseeable future
That’s because England vote Tory every time
And England has ten times as many votes as the rest put together

T Sheridan supports Scottish independence because after independence he knows Scotland will vote for a socialist government as it has always done in his lifetime

LGBGTQ and now LGBGTQK and by the time I’ve finished typing this they might have added more letters, and I didn’t even know what the K was for until somebody told me that meant KINKY, how’s that a thing? some people might say that’s just Tuesday

Look, these folk have aready got all the colours, now they’re taking all the letters and anytime somebody doesn’t say the things they demand to hear there’s complaints and news stories and TV yapping about 0.02% of the population, that’s a really tiny amount of folk for such a hell of a lot of complaints about the rest of us who can’t keep up with the changes let alone begin to understand any of it

And isn’t it all so coincidental that the SNPs Kate Forbes just gets promoted and within five minutes they’re complaining about her

Somebody tell me this isn’t deliberate targetting

If they want sex scandals or people to smear, take a look at the Liberal Democrats they hold the world record for it

Pound climbs on Markets. All the FTSEs are down.

£1 = €1.2

£1 = $1.3

Today it is 75 years since Dresden Germany was bombed to rubble
Many many killed
In Dresden today a memorial ceremony to remember those killed

On BBC radio 3 this morning a total lack of awareness
on their news at 9am they say “ and now over to our reporter in Dresden “

The reporter proceeds to describe the memorial and the bombing of Dresden !!!

It was Britain that bombed Dresden

Think about that……But think about it the other way around

Britain holding a memorial somewhere in U.K. to remember those killed by German bombs
And radio Germany send a reporter with microphone to report from the memorial ?

What an inconsiderate thing to do

No self awareness, just arrogance.

Sturgeon won’t hold a indyref, no matter how much we want it, or fellow SNP ministers or party activists or members tell her to.

Simply because the ringfenced funds to fight it are gone,used elsewhere. It’s going to be quite some time before we see the FM do antthing positive on the indy front.

No war chest no referendum its as simple as that.

Republicofscotland says: 3.33pm.
No war chest no referendum its as simple as that.
………..
If that’s the case, all she has to do is name the date and the money will pour in.

Question Time bingo – surely Question Time cricket would better reflect the English bias of the programme.

Score six every time GERS or “Scotland’s deficit” are brought-up.
Score four every time our “failing” NHS, schools or policing are mentioned.
Every mention of the closure of the Queensferry Crossing scores two.

Joanna |Cherry and Val Mcdermid are going to be busy against such a batting onslaught of pure pish.

Republicofscotland 3.33pm

If that’s the case that there is no SNP money, why don’t the rest of the country (who believe in Indy) join in with their cash – or do we expect only the SNP membership to pay for an indy campaign?

Join the Party and contribute, or stop moaning about lack of SNP cash is my view!

Ottomanboi @ 3:41

“COP26 will be in London, no doubt.”

Excellent!!!

*No bankrupting of Police Scotland for the next 5 years.

*No blocking of the M8 Kingston Bridge by Extinction Rebellion.

*No Yoonyin Jackery all over Scotland’s ‘Yes’ capital.

*No bitching about the Jocks being responsible for the logistic foul-ups which there will doubtless be – but all due to Whitehall/Westminster.

*No BawJaws grandstanding on our doorstep.

*No chance of the name of our largest city being associated with a failure to understand and act upon the biggest crisis in human history.

*No public snubbing/sidelining of our FM – whoever they may be.

London… you’re welcome to it!

“If that’s the case, all she has to do is name the date and the money will pour in.”

Yes she has named the date its the 6th of May, and she’s already asked you give a pound extra, but not for a indyref no, its for the 2021 Scottish parliament election.

“If that’s the case that there is no SNP money, why don’t the rest of the country (who believe in Indy) join in with their cash – or do we expect only the SNP membership to pay for an indy campaign?”

“Join the Party and contribute, or stop moaning about lack of SNP cash is my view!”

So you want folk to give more funds to the SNP for independence, yet hundreds of thousands of pounds that were ringfenced for fighting for independence can’t be located.

“Larry Sanders, brother of Bernie, has told the Daily Record that he believes the Democratic contender would be in favour of Scottish independence if he was U.S. President.”

Sanders has as much chance of becoming POTUS as we have of getting a indyref this year, no chance.

Even the DNC don’t want him anywhere near the Whitehouse, conning him out of his Iowa victory speech, no doubt the same will happen in New Hampshire. Sanders isn’t and never will be the preferred Democrat candidate.

The Sec of State for Wales and Scotland still in post.

@ Republicofscotland 4.34pm , here , here , I also contributed to the ringfenced indy cause and am quite willing to do so again from my MISERABLE state pension , but I am not willing to keep financing a shower of woke lunatics that are hell bent on destroying my wife , daughter and all real females hard fought for and won rights .

As I have said repeatedly on here I am not signed up to twatter or faceplook but I read the comments and believe you me if the outrage posted on these sites and the amount of people saying they will NOT vote for the SNP is anything to go by not only will we NOT win independence but we won’t even have a SNP SG in power

ALL because a few woke entryists have infiltrated , commandeered and are setting about destroying the party from within ably helped and supported by certain senior members of the party
I remember Robert Peffers telling ALL and SUNDRY that the SNP were the ONLY political party that were run democratically by their members , and it was the MEMBERS the hierarchy were answerable to , so what are the MEMBERS doing about this clusterfuck that is going to cost the WHOLE OF SCOTLAND IT’S INDEPENDENCE

And before ANYONE posts about why would anyone sabotage their vote for independence by not voting SNP it is the SNP who are SABOTAGING independence by not getting rid of these fuckwits and listening to the people

John H @ 4.35pm

To answer your question, I would reckon 11.

One for a no ball, plus six for using that one, plus a further four overthrows for stupidity.

I would love Joanna Cherry to respond with: “Margaret That her said electing a majority of pro-Independence Scottish Mps was grounds for Independence.

That scores, albeit in a different game, as Game, Set and Match to the SNP. The Tory Unionists would ahve no answer to that one.

Didn’t manage to get my Scottish Swimmer badge today as successfully drove over the Queensferry Crossing rather than having to swim across.

Mid bridge a thought came to mind about closed infrastructure. How come if Yoons get so angry about a bridge shutting for a day, they weren’t doing their nuts in when BoJo unlawfully closed Westminster Parliament, which arguably actually did bring their “country” to a standstill.

Twathater@5.29pm.

That’s exactly what Sturgeons banking on, that those who want indy will dig deep regardless of what’s happened. She had three years to organise a referendum without Westminster, three years, and what did she do she ran on the save the UK from Brexit card, not the save Scotland from Westminster card, and where has that gotten us.

Yes the polls are climbing in our favour but what good is that if we cannot act on it. The woke side of things is destroying not just the SNP, but Labour is now in a mess due to it, hos to purge the ultra woke is a difficult poser.

I think we should be focusing on criticising not Johnson, but Sturgeon we don’t need the formers consent to move forward on a indyref, the latter however somehow needs pressure putting on her to remind her that we voted for her on the condition she keeps her promise of holding a indyref.

I recall Sturgeon giving an interview in which she said that she’s obsessed with keeping the SNP in power, pity it wasn’t about keeping her indy promise.

Both STV and BBC Pathetic Quay both leading their “ local news” with the Westminster centric “ English government deck chair rearrangement” . Unionist dominated propaganda now the order of the day from the “London paymasters”. Of course “ No local news headlines” now as the Derek Mackay and Queensferry crossing “ SNP bad” stories fade . Expect more of the same as “ the unionist establishment “ line” is given “ top billing” in their “ Scotland region” unless of course another SNP / SCOTGOV “ story” emerges . ( as it usually does in the “ Britnat Propaganda manufacturing process”). The aim is a “ unionist coalition gov post Holyrood 2021.

Meanwhile back in Englandshire, the glorious land of opportunity according to the Unionists we have social cleaning and mothers terrified to give birth:
link to bbc.co.uk
link to bbc.co.uk

Holyrood elections?

You have the choice of voting for Unionist colonial administrators who say they are against indy and so bend the knee to the “sovereignty” of Crown in UK Parliament

Voting for them = no indyref2

or

SNP and Green colonial administrators that say they are in favour of indy and believe the people of Scotland are sovereign but, who also bend the knee to the “sovereignty” of Crown in UK Parliament.

Voting for them = no indyref2 under Sturgeon as FM

I was Googling to try to find out how many people actually identified as transgender or transexual (apparently an outdated term) in the 2011 census.

It would appear that the question wasn’t asked. The question was male or female.

However, I did find this story from The Telegraph from two years ago, about the 2021 census. Here’s a quote from it:-

“A third “two-step” option, with separate sex and gender identity questions, was also ruled out.”

link to archive.is

Brian Doonthetoon 7.33

A lot of thought has gone into this area of the next census.

This is a link to the guidance for just the rehearsal two years ago.

link to archive.is

Dr Jim – thanks for reply re Shereen N. How many listeners does her show have. Her show is only on once a week and she’s getting a shiny, shiny, yet Kaye’s on every day I think, I’m sure she’s beelin’, or waiting in expectation.

As someone who hasn’t listened to radio for decades, I surmised that it was likely only drivers who tuned in as a kind of trapped audience, but as she’s on a Saturday, my theory doesn’t really stand up. I wonder what Tom Harris’s ex slab voters think of him now.

@Tjenny 8:26pm

I doubt Tom Harris will ever try for politics again, he’s shot his bolt with Labour and the Tories will never trust him so his income is probably mainly radio TV appearances and newspaper articles moaning about the SNP because he’s one of their *go to* guys for a bit of moaning, it’s about all he does now since he got the push

It’s funny how you go off people when you think they were so nice then find out they’re raging Yoons and Independence haters, I used to enjoy Shereen when she did the news, who knew eh

Re no to self id to keep women’s safe places safe. Perhaps all female SNP members, and other supportive members, who are against this and whose concerns appear to be ignored by the party, should cancel their memberships on 8 March, International Women’s Day! (How long will that be allowed to exist?)

As SNP have been asking for increased membership fees, maybe hitting them in the bank is the way to get them to listen to us. Especially if done en masse on that date.

OK… confession time… I have a guilty pleasure….I watch Emmerdale. In tonights episode, one of the characters unleashes a tirade of banter/ anti-scottish racist abuse (delete as appropriate) to another (scottish) character. Now… to my knowledge if this level of racism on a TV show was directed towards any other race/community/group then there would be an uproar and probably wouldnt be allowed to be shown. How much longer is it going to seen to be alright to accept this ‘banter’ from our (superior?) English cousins?

“You’re not seriously suggesting that because someone writes a blog on the Internet that every word must be believed and accepted as truth are you, because that’s what Yoons do with the Daily Express and they believe that’s the truth”

Jeez oh, the mans been busting his hump since at least 2012 to try and inform us on the machinations of the unionists, we lauded him for it. Now he reveals rather painfully I might add that the SNP dropped the ball on the chance of independence, and all of a sudden he’s just some guy with a blog.

You and half the others in here wouldn’t be as well informed of half of what’s went on in the past regarding Better Together/Unionist activities to thwart indy etc,and what going in now if it wasn’t for him.

I don’t know how the guy’s put up with it for so long, I’d have told the lot of you to f*ck -off by now if I were him.

@RepublicofScotland

I’ve been a member of the SNP longer than the rev’s been alive do you think I don’t know anything about my own party or had no understanding of politics and how they really work in the real world and not the Internet populist world of the nefarious soundbite snapshot and implied suggestions, you shouldn’t really get so annoyed at what I say, I could be lying too couldn’t I

I remember when in the past when I saw a union flag my first thought was English football hooligan, probably with BNP sympathies.

Now when I see a rainbow flag my first thought is, misogynist. Funny how the behaviour of people can colour you view of a physical item.

Good to see some have promoted the Rev to infallibility level one, no doubt soon to be the first pope from Bath/Bathgate.

@Sandy 9:33pm

When the party is convinced of a clean win it’ll happen, too many folk think because we’re above the 50% mark it’s time to begin the fight, and I admit to being a foot in that camp and a foot out because like the FM say’s we can’t afford to lose or not be decisive in our win or the UN and EU won’t give us their backing, we’ve got their support but not full backing until it looks right

It all sounds and looks exciting to have a campaign but we all remember the result last time and how the horror of that had to sink in, we don’t want that experience again

Much as I’d love to dive right in now it’s not me that has to carry it out, I only deliver leaflets and pound the pavements knocking doors, it’s the FM and her team that has to do the real work

Lots of folk get more excited about just having the campaign, I’m more interested in the definite win and just hope I don’t die before it happens, I couldn’t bear another loss

@Papko

He calls himself Rev, but should it really be Father Stu. We have a right to know.

Hmm..not much to add to the happy chat the now except..

50% plus of our people want what you and I do.

That’s the powers to govern ourselves as we see fit.

We don’t go back.

Some of the planning and strategy must remain vague, even if it frustrates us and as plan on having a open honest civic society in Scotland for the better we feel excluded, alienated and grumpy.

Quite right, tell me about it.

I didn’t spend the last 6yrs of my life learning all I could about what’s going on here in Scotland to just quietly forget.

We’ll know more fairly soon.

I have every sympathy with many like the Rev, Craig etc who do the hard graft, while I only read,contribute a few pounds now and again.

Keep the heid people

@Republicofscotland

You may not believe this but many of us can read the runes as well as bloggers. I read his opinion, sometimes I agree, sometimes I don’t. Yes it seems unlikely any referendum will happen this year and many of us will be angry/disillusioned but it doesn’t indicate that we have given up (although I may not see it in my lifetime hopefully my children will).

Sandy
With respect Sandy we are not reaching our goal.
Its the five years of catastrophic Tory rule that has increased support for indy by five miserable points, all Sturgeon has done is react to events. But I could be wrong , so maybe you could tell me what exactly she has done since `14 to increase the vote for independence.

Al-Stuart says:
13 February, 2020 at 4:49 am

“For all his sins, Tommy is a remarkable person.”

Hopefully there soon will be many more such repentant sinners in Scotland.

Tommy was once guilty of the sin of Unionism, he was practically a full-blown Scotland Denier in his Labour days. he would come out with guff like “I have much more in common with the industrial workers of Liverpool and Birmingham, than I have with Tory farmers from Perthshire.

It took him a while to realise that his vision of pan-British “working class solidarity” was serving the interests of the Duke of Buccleuch, better than it was, the rapidlly declining ranks of the industrial workers of Scotland.

Wings used to be a blog for indy-minded people – lately it’s becoming a vehicle for any anti-SNP types who are looking to derail the party with innuendo about money and the Leader.

This is excatly what the BritNats want, we are doing their job for them, right here on this site!!

They want us divided and people on here are stirring it up like never before. Are we ALL really wanting Indy – of course not , there are many forked tongues in action. And just when we are so close.
I’m heartily sick of the situation.

Why not give it a rest and have a little patience, if nothing happens within a couple of months then I’ll apologise and join all those determined that an Indyref will never happen in my lifetime – maybe I’ll even learn to love Boris!!!!

Coco

AS I’ve said before, Private Alexander should resign his ‘commission’ and go.

Fiona Bruce sets tone for BBC describes Joanna Cherry as a trained lawyer rather than a leading QC then points out there are more SNP in audience rather than just saying a representative audience

.
OUCH.

Question Time from Dundee started 4 minutes ago with Dame Fiona Bruce CBE., clearly stung by Wings Over Scotland and other BBC Scotlandshire criticism announcing…

“Question Time this evening comes from Dundee and the audience is selected to represent the political nature of the area so we have more SNP supporters in the audience than any other party”

I have never heard Dame Fiona, not her predecessor utter such words. Her face was a distorted picture akin to someone who has defecated themselves and then sat on a hedgehog.

Well done to all those who have managed to get the BBC to actually go a few inches in the miles needed to fulfill their licence charter in respect of balance.

If it wasn’t for the Catalonia situation, I recon that the EU might have been prepared to go into bat for Scotland and state that continued membership would be a formality provided that a referendum was held before the end of the transition period.

However, I can’t see them getting involved in any way as things stand, so warm words and nothing else would’ve been the sum of the FM’s recent trip

Seriously OT but It’s been annoying me all day, can someone please tell Beth Rigby that the large wet stain on her coat this morning has now turned into what looks like a dried in coffee stain.

Val McDermid was pretty good too and pointed out that 65% of the under 55s in in Scotland were Yes for independence and that it was inevitable, given the demographics. ( ie the no vote is dying off so patience is a virtue.)

Why didn’t Joanna Cherry at least attempt to scotch the lie that the 55% who didn’t vote SNP in December are all ardent unionists?

We expect that bull from Ian Murray but audience members were spouting the same pish.

I’ll admit I zoned out for a while there but neither Joanna or Val appeared to state that a sizable % of Labour voters are likely pro-indy.

Talking out loud at the wife I postulated that it must be a psychological linking to the winning percentage in 2014. They’re soothed by a notion that support for independence has not moved one iota in 5 years.

Not posted for a long time.
Dr Jim excellent post I hope a lot of people read I can’t disagree with anything you have said, so get a grip all you moaners the Independence movement are winning , the evidence is there to see in the total inability of the unionists on the Question Time panel to sell their Union.
This Scabby Union is dead but hasn’t the sense to lie down .

Joanna was not given the opportunity to point out that polls say for example that 30% of Labour voters support independence.

On a positive note, the audience did seem to be more in balance with Scottish actuality this time compared to the complete stitch up last time round which mean Fiona Bruce had to work extra hard to try to quickly switch questions in an attempt to stifle applause for the indy panelists.

@Al-Stuart 12:37pm

I don’t believe it will be that long Al I’ve a hunch the build up will begin around March this year to be followed by some sort of announcement towards the end of the year probably either right before COP26 or right after with right after being the higher bet and I’m guessing that’s why Herr Johnson was trying his best to keep the FM out of the conference to keep her from informing the the delegates from around the world right opposite the conference in the Scottish government pre hired event hall of their own festooned with Saltires and Independence for Scotland words all over the place

The notion of coming to Scotland at all is making Johnson mental because he can’t possibly make any coherent sense on Climate change but Scotland’s FM is a veritable expert genius compared to him on the subject and pretty much most of the rest of the world knows it and I think she’s determined to make him look like the clown buffoon he is, that’s if he even shows up now that he’s hired that nobody guy who was a disaster in the head to head Brexit debates as all he did was keep parroting Tories good SNP bad and that was it

I could be a million miles out but it looks to me like the FM is setting Johnson up by outstateswomaning him then sticking the knife in his ribs in public and sitting back watching while he loses it

Or I’m indulging myself in wishful thinking, I can’t make my mind up

@cynical Highlander

My own mother was English and would never have voted YES in a hundred years with a gun to her head because she knew she was superior to all Scots and she came to Scotland at 23 years and died at 84 years and half my relatives are English so don’t think I don’t understand how they feel about Scots and Scotland, but never once did I say all of them, but it is most of them

Just because you don’t like it and squeal your silly wee snash won’t make you right and I am where I belong and there’s sweet fffk all you can ever do about it with your childish wee threateny rants picking out the bits you want to rant about out of context, that’s the epitome of Unionist behaviour

Found this just now on Kevin Pringle’s twitter , it’s the Great Debate from 25 years ago with Alex Salmond & George Robertson on Independence/devolution ,

link to mobile.twitter.com

It was great to watch it again after so many years and on the comments to the link the name Lorraine Mann is mentioned and when I googled her name I found this –

link to wingsoverscotland.com

Enjoy watching it folks .

The next Independence referendum should be for Scots born people, any person not born in Scotland should have stayed in Scotland for 15 years before being entitled to vote in the future of a country that’s not their own.

I live in a small rural village so favoured by English settlers.
Four of my neighbours are English and support Independence. They decided to move to get away from what England has become, certainly not for the free prescriptions.
It was an English person who persuaded me to recognise that Scotland could survive as an Independent country.
Please stop this jackboot stereotyping.

Was going to say something stinging and rude to those who criticise English Scots and whether they voted YES but realised it was St Valentine Day so

Love,Love,Love!

Dr Jim says:
14 February, 2020 at 1:51 am
@Al-Stuart 12:37pm

Or I’m indulging myself in wishful thinking, I can’t make my mind up…

Sorry Dr Jim, I fear that’s wishful thinking.

The constitution of Holyrood, which makes it deferential to the colonial Scotland Act and Sewel Convention, is simply not compatible with the Nation’s Constitution, which enshrines Popular Sovereignty upon the people. The SNP pays lip service to the Claim of Right, then promptly walks all over it, and does whatever the Scotland Act and Sewel Convention “allows” it to do, even to the extent of declaring all other routes to Independence illegal. There is no evidence of “statesmanship” to be seen, and I would only use the word diligent under extreme duress.

I certainly don’t recognise any genius in it whatsoever, none. If the SNP ever expect to rekindle any of my faith, then it’s high time they showed a bit of sparkle and a degree of Constitutional acumen, and did something more diligent than sitting on their hands because the Scotland Act says they must.

I frankly don’t give a shit if the SNP’s docile plans don’t come to fruition before the Autumn, Christmas, next year, or Hogmanay at the end of the decade. Point is, they didn’t come to fruition at all before Brexit, when Scotland held a cast iron Constitutional and emphatic Democratic mandate to defend the principle of Scotland’s Sovereign autonomy and democratic majority to avoid the economic catastrophe of Brexit by staying in Europe and breaking the back of the Union in the process. Everything we had for victory was right there in the palm of our hand, but the SNP just pissed up against the wall.

The great plans didn’t come to fruition despite repeated assurance that Scotland would not be Brexited against it’s will, and pedalling the lie to YES Groups and Indy Supporters that Nicola had a great plan which had be kept secret lest it revealed her hand too early. What a con!

What bollocks. Sturgeon had no plan, and the only secret to be kept was keeping YES supporters hoodwinked into believing the myth.

Now the SNP is beating the drum about No to Yes voters… what took you so long? Phantom Power was doing this three years ago, and doing it better.

link to mobile.twitter.com

Very slick, but as you watch the video of former No voters repenting and seeing the light, pay close attention to the reason’s given for changing their minds. It’s all reactive stuff, no inspiration, just reactive to Brexit and the lies pedalled by the BritNats. Precious little of this delicate “tsunami” of 5% change in the opinion polls is down to any SNP action or inspiring initiative.

It’s not good enough Dr Jim. It’s not gonna wash anymore. I’m blood boiling angry that my European Citizenship was stolen from me, that my Nation was subjugated by a colonial usurper of my Nation’s sovereignty, and despite having a bundle of mandates to all manner of things, the so called government of Scotland didn’t lift a godamned finger to stop it.

If the Scottish Government hasn’t the brains or acumen to think it’s way past a piece of of colonial convention designed to exploit our Nation, I see no point in having either them, or indeed Holyrood at all. Let the Union run riot, and when the saltires rise again, it will be to fight for Scotland’s Constitution, Sovereignty and our integrity as a Nation. We will pick up the ball which the visionless SNP has dropped through their poverty of ambition and indolent complacency.

Do you really think I’m waiting on tenterhooks for Nicola to name the date of a pathetic referendum to be authorised by Westminster and run uphill against the rotten British Media and corrupt BritNat Establishment which cheated us last time? I’ll place my faith in others Dr Jim. I’d recommend you do likewise.

I hope Joanna Cherry will see the error of subservience to colonial legislation like the Scotland Act, and take Scotland’s Constitutional subjugation before the UN and Council of Europe. Joanna Cherry is Scotland’s best hope right now, not the only one, but the best I think, and it’s ironic that the SNP’s vindictive Wokists want her expelled for defending women’s rights. Kinda tells you all you really need to know.

Put your house in order Dr Jim, or it will be left behind.

Wake up Scotland. Holyrood is working perfectly, 100% as the British Establishment intended. It is making Scotland obedient and subservient to the will of Westminster, and Scotland’s First Minister has all the integrity of Oliver Twist begging for more. Westminster looks on, more than content for Scotland to swim to exhaustion in a puddle, so we Scots abandon our ambition of ever swimming in the sea.

……Along with breeks.

Re. QT
I hear drug deaths were one of the topics.
I optimistically imagine* Fiona Bruce will have stressed the point to enlighten viewers and the audience that in Scotland we use a different method to collate these figures so comparisons to elsewhere in the UK are not accurate or valid.

*I can imagine my optimistic imagination may be misplaced…

Aye the BBC have learnt a lesson from the last QT in Dundee when they were found out big time.
Who was the auld English guy in the audience? Didnae seem tae ken he wis in Dundee!
The programme was a better representation of Scotland’s political position than we often get from so-called Scottish press.
Ian Murray MP should tell us when Labour switched from a socialist party to a hardline Unionist one.

Meanwhile the chaos of the moving of bums on seats carousel continues unabated in the Palace of Clowns in Westminster.

With all off the sackings, a lot of unhappy people strong and stable it is not. One thing though, Johnson and whoever his team are, will be he’ll bent on destroying the Scottish Parliament. That is a certainty.

And the new Chancellor of the Exchequer? Well he’s th3 richest man in the Westminster Parliament. With a billionaire father, finest private school educated before onto Cambeidge, he’ll know a thing or too about universal credit, and Work Fare – and we voted for it.

Independence under Nicola. You’re havin a laff!

Again Joanna Cherry has repeated the view that expert legal opinions support the view that it is within the powers of the Scottish Parliament to hold an indyref.

She’ll even reference a source of expert opinion, such as Aidan O’Neill QC.

Nicola Sturgeon talks about a legal indyref and says s30 is necessary to be legal and accepted but has NEVER cited any source that says it would be illegal / unlawful: she says on rare occasions it is HER opinion. She has never cited any source who said it would be illegal or they would not recognise the result of an indyref held without a s30.

Nicola Sturgeon: the great leader. Aye, She’s led us out of the EU and led us up the garden path over indyref2.

The SNP failed to stop Brexit. Failed to lock Boris out of No.10.

Now Bojo has a huge majority.

We’re out of the EU.

No indyref2

The only “plan” is waiting for England’s right wing Tory govt to give us permission to hold an indyref.

That’s no a plan to win independence, that’s a complete surrender of Scottish sovereignty to Imperial England.

Surprised no one in the audience said to Ian Murray, when he was talking about mandates, that as the ONLY Labour MP in Scotland, that he himself has no mandate to tell the Scottish people they have no right to another Indy Ref….seemed like an open goal not taken…..indeed Tom the Tory’s party also a minority within Scotland so he too has no mandate to tell Scots they have no right to a second Indy Ref…..but as least Tom’s constituents in Tonbridge & Malling get what they want in this (non) Union as they voted 55.7% to LEAVE the EU…..so THEIR mandate is respected obvs.

“Response received from the UK Government

We have now formally had a response from the Advocate General of the UK, they state as follows:

“We refer to your letter of 31 January 2020. The United Kingdom Government’s position is that it is outside the legislative competence of the Scottish Parliament
to legislate for and hold a referendum on Scottish independence.” ”

link to crowdjustice.com

I think as soon as the Salmond case is over we should crash the Scottish parliament, call an election and run an independence party on the list, and be done with Carlaw and his fellow puppets.

Skip a referendum and make the key message of the vote this is a vote for independence.

There is little reason to believe there will be a Scottish Parliament next year

If 6,500 Scots Tories voted in the Head House Boy election,
How many actually voted for Jacksie Carlot?

Did he make 5,000 votes from Scotland’s population
Of 5,500,000.

Definitely not a shill in a million, but could as many as
1 in 1,000.

Now that’s what the Tories call a majority!

Great result for Harry Miller today.
At last, a bit of common sense from the judge.

I was going to change my handle to Dicky McDickDick, but maybe not. You never know who you may offend.

The pecking order as far as the judiciary is concerned is:

Men
Terry Jones impersonators
Women

I am fed up hearing on here about the English voters who voted yes in ref.,1 they were very few of them the facts are that 80per cent of them voted no and swung the vote to a the no side and this is not their country the only people allowed to vote should be Scots who are born and live here no one else has that right I hope the SNP adopt my rules for if they just allow everyone to vote again they will just get the same result as last time outsiders deciding the future of a country that is not theirs please let common sense prevail no other country would allow this to happen as I have asked before where does being nice end and stupidity begin ???

@Breeks, 8.49am

Very well said.