Alex Salmond resigns from SNP
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August 29, 2018 by
Rev. Stuart Campbell
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An honourable man. And now a very dangerous one to the WM establishment. He will not be silent and this won’t be pretty.
Clever man Mr Salmond strategic move that will allow the SG to get on meantime.
I’m sure he’ll be back.
Shame. And not right.
Heartbroken that it has come to this ,the best politician by a country mile of my generation, but obviously protecting Nicola and the party. Each day i hate this shit media and opposition politicians just that little more.
What. Why
Oh no. FGS.
Probably done this to put an end to the hounding of Nicola Sturgeon.
Chin up Alex it won’t be too long before we’re out of this despicable Union and you’re back in the fold X
Putting Indy and the SNP above personal feelings
I not he is starting a crowdfunder toward Court expenses. Any chance of a semi permanent linky?
I think Alex is sincerely thinking better to just take the focus off the FM, as her focus is needed on Scotland.
Ruth Wishart wrote a good blog saying any other ex Leader, it would be a one day wonder, but Alex is like no other.
Ruth also said she anticipates her fellow journalists, inclined that way, will hound, until they uncover the two women.
It so stinks.
Smart cookie, he’s always been a smart cookie.
Haste ye back Alex.
One of the so called journalists in the media in Scotland called Wings a hate fest. Well I hate all your lies and propaganda so maybe this is the nearest to a true statement they have ever made in their whole careers. People with no professional or personal integrity. Why don’t you just pissof to London?
Clegg Leask and all the other propaganda writers are worthy of our contempt and hate. They are the lowest of the low.
I’m actually tearful, he has been my hero since I watched my first ever political programme at 13yrs of age. I truly hope he nails those responsible to the wall.
Alex crowdfunder
link to crowdfunder.co.uk
What a man. I was a bit shocked to hear the news, but he’s taking the pressure off Nicola and the party. Thinking of others when all this crap is going on around him, great man. Shrewd operator too.
I said a few days ago that this is going to come back and bite some folk on the bahooky. I hope he sues some of them for defamation for what they’ve said.
Bunged a few quid to the fundraiser. Good luck Alex.
Canadian Scots are with ye Alex & with Scottish Independence.
The Leasks are not fit to lick his boots.
I say I never, I said never, saw that coming, I say coming.
First thoughts, I say, first thoughts, is that there are tactics, I say tactics, involved here, I say involved here, if not strategy.
MSM must surely, I say surely, be wrong-footed here…
link to crowdfunder.co.uk
This is amazing. A tin rattle for the wealthy politician and broadcaster to take the government to court.
A man who puts others first, a true servant of Scotland.
We look forward to his return.
If anything, my estimation of the man has gone up, he is clearly one that will ensure that any association of SNP or the FM cannot be used to smear them anymore.
I really hope that once his name is cleared, he will go hell for leather after those that tried to bring him down, least of all the media, I really hope he does.
@Croompenstein
Thanks for the link. Made a donation easiest one ever. 🙂
@Marie Clark
“but he’s taking the pressure off Nicola and the party.”
That’s how I see it. An astute and considerate action by Mr Salmond.
Alex has always stood by and fought for the people of Scotland – ALL of us. Now it is our turn to show our gratitude and stand by Alex in his time of need.
Get donating peeps and make this the fastest Crowd Fund target buster EVER!!!!
link to crowdfunder.co.uk
That man is always ahead of all of us. Bless him – what a force he is!
Look forward to his return already.
This action is no more and no less that I’d expect from a man of Alex’s stature and integrity. What a man!
The yoons are apoplectic about Alex’s crowdfunder, makes it all the sweeter refreshing the page and watching the total climb higher and higher… 😀
The crowdfunder. Right folks dig deep to demonstrate how much we love, respect and believe in Alex Salmond. More than anything how we support truth, honesty, fairness, justice and democracy.
Alex has requested that no one else relinquish their SNP membership.
I’m requesting that you “show them” and join the SNP.
Alex,,,sad times we live in deflecting your reputation away from the cause…will be supporting your crowdfund
“Don’t let the bastards get you” Alex.
Dark days brought by dark means. This is now the state of play in this fucked up tabloid society. Good people get crucified whilst literal arses go unnoticed by a zombie nation. Chin up sir as always, all shall be well.
well they are going to regret it is all there own making
oor ecks now a loose cannon they have let the lion out the cage
he is now completely free to do and say anything he wants .
yoons beware , eck its time to light the blue touch paper.
Page up to £13000 already
Alex Salmond has more integrity in his little finger than all the jumped up “editors” of the jumped up “newspapers” in the UK. So sad that he is resigning from the SNP but I expect him to be back soon and fighting fit.
Now off to the fundraiser.
Donation made. I think he plays chess.
A principled move by Alex, a man of high morals. I’m sure he will be vindicated and return. Meanwhile I’ve donated to his crowd funding – please can others do the same and show that he has many supporters ready to aid him.
In France etc there would have been a more mature attitude to allegations of this kind. Not in the prurient, gender politics infested UK.
Salmond should not have had to resign. Innocent until proven guilty is the norm. Unionists will be jumping for joy. Shameful.
A very honourable man – and he will be back!
Je Suis Alex Salmond!
I’m with you Alex and my donation to the justice fund is on its way.
Look forward to seeing your statue on one side of what is currently George Square and the Rev’s on the Other side.
Independence Square will also have a web cam that doesn’t switch off when a Saltire Flag comes into view.
Our Day Will Come, and its Coming Soon.
LOL.. Yoons are even donating so they can leave a wee yoony comment on the crowdfund page… was this you gfaetheblock 🙂
Salmond is a twat
21:35 29/Aug/2018
Alex Salmond is a total bellend who deserves to go to jail. One of the biggest cretins to ever be in Scottish politics.
When I clicked on the fundraiser it was just over £3000. I then asked my husband to pass my card over and it was at £7000. I donated and had a look and it’s around £14,000 now. Well done folks. Keep it going. Give Alex a boost in more ways than one.
Donated Hail Alba Gu snooker loopy!
Good on you AS that takes the wind out of there sails,it wont stop them gunning for you but they must be raging they can’t get at the FM now.
Go for the barstewards 99.9% or even 100% are with you all the way.
Done with dignity and grace.
I’ll be donating. He should have the best representation possible.
I’m a bit teary, but my god the quality of the man comes through doesn’t it. Statesman.
Brave. I hope he looks after himself, this must be horrendously stressful.
And the clarity of his statement, cuts through all the fluff to get right to the heart of the matter. Whoever his QC is, is likely going to learn more about presenting cases in this one, than any other.
Donation in. More to come if needed. Facts are Cheils that wanna ding.
smart move from Alex. takes the heat off Nicola / SNP. given nature of allegations they simply need to go along with investigation – otherwise opposition would rightly call “cover up”.
given the Daily Record has published details of witness statements it seems certain charges wont be pressed. otherwise they would clearly have prejudiced the trial.
the real question is who int he civil service leaked one side of this story ?
Just pledged and look forward to Alex Salmond returning to business once he’s taken care of things.
Watch also for preconference membership surge – this development will have an effect similar to the WM walk-out.
Remember tomorrow lunchtime, Beattie Show media review should/could be addressing Alex Salmond smear and, possibly, McBottery.
Deep breath abody…
‘Seconds out, Round Eleven..DING-DING.’
The press are going to be so p**sed off tonight. 30 minutes from launch & at £16500. I believe the press & political opponents will live to rue this day. e has just cut their legs out from under. He is now free to lift any stones to search for the truth and I wish him well.
If you can manage it bung his crowdfunder a few quid. I have.
Meant to say donation made.
The very first line of this article is a link to the crowdfunder, haven’t donated to a worthier cause in so many moons.
Alex Salmond will clear his name and I hope too that he will find the time to lead the AUOB march in Edinburgh on 6th October.
I’ve thought for quite a while now about joining the SNP as being the best means of aiding the cause of Scotland becoming an Independent country. I’ve hesitated waiting on the right time to do this. I don’t know why I’ve waited.
Tonight is that time though and I’ve just became a member of the SNP.
Donation made to Salmond fund raiser. If it pisses of even one of these Britnats then it will have been worth it just for that.
Britnat media in Scotland your stench is polluting this beautiful country. Independence is coming and your precious precious Union will be consigned to the history books.
Confused Britnats can’t even decide if they live in a country or a union. At times I feel sorry for these House Scots but not right now.
@Gfaetheblock –
Thanks for putting that link up.
😉
Just pledged and look forward to Alex Salmond’s return 🙂
Fred,Petra and I had this very conversation on here a few day’s ago…
Tis sad,but,I think dignified.
I can see how .. Dark Money Ruth… would have used it to deflect from … Dark Money …”enquiries” when Holyrood comes back…. Now…this way…Alex Salmond is off the table,..Dark Money…not so much,Nicola has a free and clear run to quiz Ruthie about it!!
I Totally support this decision,let Alex and the Courts work out what the hell is going on..
Its Indy that’s our business,,,and that’s NEVER off the table..
Oh and Fred,,, I want a bet the next time…LOL.. And my money is on a Ruthie no show…
Her party make other pregnant woman work,unless and until she demonstrates that it’s a high risk pregnancy!!!
Two points…. It’s no an illness and there’s a day job a’watin..
Oh and,as an aside,, she knows fine well,, that should she inform her employers.. AKA… US that it is indeed a risky pregnancy we would give her and her child,time,space and our very best… Of course we would,, and we’d bloody well mean it!!
Anyhoo ,I’m away tae ….try …. to donate… Fail and annoy the first one of my kids tae walk through the door to get it done…. But it will be done,no much right enough but what I can manage…
And Alex Salmond… If yer reading here Stay the Course..
Good luck, Alex.
20k!
40% funded in an hour and a half – almost as fast as Wings 🙂
A statesmanlike and wise move by Alex Salmond which removes some of the pressure on the FM.
The Establishment has chosen the wrong man to tangle with, and a man with an army of supporters willing to donate to the cause.
This will prove a colossal own goal by the smearers and leakers.
Donation made and more when necessary.
Difficult times, a strange yet expected situation we all thought they would try something like this.
No benefit to anyone for us to get carried away keep our power dry and all that let justice take its course.
I urge all to support one of our own by sending a donation to the fund.
We have to wait now to allow things to develop.
If this is a genuine complaint, and I know what I think, let the process proceed.
If this turns out to be something other than genuine things have to change.
There has to be consequences it cannot be allow to pass if it is a set up.
The funny thing is that the British Nationalists will think they have won a victory with Alex resigning.
I think that is the polar opposite of what has just happened.
He’s no awa, tae bide awa.
The Civil Servant who leaked this to the Daily Redcoats Grand Master Clegg should rightly be sweating bullets tonight.
Alex’s fundraiser ticking over nicely – now over £21,000 🙂
Had these allegations about Salmond arisen from a respected, trusted and independent Scottish media source, I might have paid attention to them. But, they came from the discredited, risible and contemptible Daily Record…the self-proclaimed Voice of Scotland. They have so debased themselves, together with the BBC, as the propaganda cheerleaders of the British/Scottish Unionist establishment that anything they say can only be treated with the jeers and sneers they so richly deserve. Good luck Alex, you have the support and good wishes of the many hundreds of thousands of Scottish Independence supporters who stand right alongside you. Chipped in my donation and hope many others do too.
Trial by media on behalf of the establishment. Where will it stop?
I can see the sexual misconduct angle getting used repeatedly to hound individuals into resigning if they are deemed to be a significant threat to the established order. That and whatever other dirty tricks they might utilise in their attempts to discredit prominent indy voices is a genuine cause for concern.
Whilst I can understand his reasons for resigning, I do wish the SNP had stood their ground on this one because I fear that a precedent of sorts has now been firmly set. It’s also quite frustrating that the SNP seem to be held to a higher standard than any other political party even when there is no evidence presented of any wrongdoing. Whatever happened to the presumption of innocence?
It really is a shame to see Alex hounded out like this. I hope to see him return as soon as possible to the party that he has given almost his entire adult life to having brought them from the political fringes of Scottish politics to the dominant position they now inhabit in Scotlands political landscape.
Haste ye back big man!!
Does this mean details are about to be made public or a principled move to take the heat off NS?
My advice to Alex is to simply walk away from political life and leave his fair weather friends in the Scottish Government to get on with it. He’s been hung out to dry by the party leadership and so it’s not surprising that he’s decided to resign.
The damage has now been done and no amount of expensive lawyers will change that.
’tis up to £20,000 now YEEESSSS.
Its as if people are glad to be able to demonstrate their support for Alex, and get one up the bampots at the same time.
Well done Alex, you’ve turned this all the way around. Somewhere deep in Establishment WM land some high heed yin is pulling their hair out and shouting ‘F***, F***, F***.’
YES WE CAN
Thepnr @ 9.43
Welcome to the clan! 🙂
A man of honour removing the heat from the SNP and Nicola
Croompenstein & Ian Brotherhood
Happy to share a link, don’t think it is a secret. I haven’t donated, feels like a vanity action that will not impact the police investigation. More concerned that the Scottish government will need to spend tax payers’ money defending the judicial review that the FM signed off. The former is folks right if that is how they want to spend their money, rather than on on pro indi causes, but the latter sticks in the craw somewhat.
I felt quite tearful when I read of AS resignation, after decades of the snp and the yes movement being in the wilderness, regarded as oddities, he has almost singlehandedly brought us to the verge of where we are today, with the prize finally in sight! But of course he is as always a step ahead of the yoon witchhunters. A noble man indeed!
It is good to see his fundraiser take off as it is doing, I have made my donation, small though it necessarily is, and it will be a source of immense satisfaction when he smashes the target in the same fashion as a Wings Fundraiser. That will leave his detractors grinding and spitting out their teeth.
I just want to take this opportunity to send my love and best wishes to Alex’s wife, Moira, too. This must be extremely difficult for her to say the least X
Jason Smoothpiece @9.52pm
If it is proven to be a setup I forecast that none of the Britnat media will report it never mind apologise. I also forecast that Evans and any other civil servants proven to be involved will move to London to promoted posts. Some people say I can be a bit cynical now and again.
Donation made.
Donated. Hope it annoys the britnats. Over £25,000 raised already.
‘A tin rattle for the wealthy politician and broadcaster to take the government to court’
Lol, you just don’t get it, do you. But then, why would you.
Added a fiver to the pot. Total jumped £2000 in the time it took to fill in my details. Moving along at a fair crack!
We are with you Alex.
Hey, Stu. I read the Guardian article on Salmond’s resignation and they called you a “hardline blogger” in it. Made me chuckle.
I could name quite a few unionist bloggers who are much more “hardline” than Wings.
I guess being truthful and presenting facts is “hardline” to the Guardian these days.
Crowdfunder over 51% now in a matter of minutes.
Sometimes things dont always go to plan as the Yoon Centre may say.
Best laid plans of yoons and their pals and all that.
Rhoda Grant is unbelievable.
Why the hell should he use ‘his own money’ to fight a case if he is innocent? Alistair Carmichael didn’t use his own money and he was as guilty as sin. Didn’t a branch of the Joseph Rowntree Foundation stump up some cash? And Poison Jill and the Green Ink Gang?
Alex is fighting the Government and they will come armed with the best lawyers around.
We’ll awa’ tae the hills, tae the lea, tae the rocks
E’er I own a usurper, I’ll couch wi’ the fox!
So tremble, false Whigs, in the midst o’ your glee,
For ye’ve naw seen the last o’ my bonnets and me!
Donation made to crowdfunder and subscription paid to SNP
Man has the establishment picked on the wrong boy.
Go get them Alex!!
So I did it – I’ve just joined the SNP.
link to join.snp.org
#forFairness
HEHE the Britnats are foaming at the mouth already.
I reckon Rhoda Grant needs to be very careful of what she says,Totally disgraceful from Labour party Scottish branch.
The People of Scotland and Independence first.
is anyone else finding their comments arent appearing? Even a while later and after refreshing?
Anyway, my comment for what its worth – I felt quite tearful when I read of AS resignation, but yet again, he is a step ahead of the yoon opposition and the dirty media.
He stands head and shoulders above any of them. He almost singlehandedly brought the yes movement and SNP out of the wilderness where we were seen as oddballs and eccentrics, to the place where we are today, mainstream Scotland and with the goal firmly in our sights at last.
It is gratifying to see his fundraiser progress as fast as a Wings fundraiser, showing his detractors clearly that they have failed to sow the division they intended and they have failed to make any smear stick in this case, as we all know AS for his sheer integrity and trustworthiness, almost unique in the political world. Donated, just wish it could be more.
It’s at 30K with 16 mins waiting time to load contributions.
Bet the target’s smashed before cocoa.
ALANM
It is a tricky situation. For decades few listened to such accusations and the pendulum has now swung the other way. Now if an accusation is made everything grinds to halt. Unfortunately, a number of false accusations have been made along the way but in order to protect the genuine cases everything must be investigated. The SNP or any other party cannot give senior members a mulligan on such accusations.
Given the nature of the accusations this is the best course for Alex and the Party. It leaves the door wide open for Alex to return once he has resolved this matter and it maintains the focus and direction of the Party. It is the best and most dignified course given the circumstances.
I would agree with Jason that should Alex succeed there must be consequences for those the smeared his name.
@ Thepnr – Welcome aboard. I joined right after the referendum. I’ve never joined a political party before but that was the ocassion when I decided to stand up and be counted. There’s no going back.
I think the fundraiser might reach its target before lights out. Now up to £30,000
Just passed £30,000.
I hope this finishes off the Daily record.
Over £30,000. Waiting now for MSM to be found out and roasted.
Donation made,and more if needed.
Someone in Scottish civil service dept disclosed very sensitive information deliberately to the media. I hope they are found and sacked along with the person who created the rules on investigative procedure. Kangaroo style courts have never held my regard.
Alex, if you read this site you will find many admirers who hold you in high esteem. Your actions tonight show why..
Murdo Fraser pledged £1
About 55 minutes and 43 seconds ago
“The poor have no lawyers”. Well now they do!
Why should anyone have spend £50,000 or more in order to prove their innocence? Allegations are exactly that, they are NOT evidence of any guilt and for that we would have to wait on the verdict in any trial which in all likelihood will never happen.
I’m really glad Alex Salmond set up a crowdfunder, sure he may have been able to afford these initial costs himself or maybe not? That’s not the point as I see it, the point is his crowdfunder will help to show the strenngth of support for him and strength of support for Independence as undoubably he is a leader of our cause.
Rest assured, Alex Salmond will make good use of any money he raises in his name and of those that support him through what must be a very stressful time.
The press are evil and those leaking the details of the allegations are even worse and I hope they are found after an investigation. This should never have happened this way. The law will need to be changed to prevent it happening in future. Everyone of us whether accuser or accused deserves anonymity until investigations are complete.
We also deserve our voice to be heard in that investigation and as far as I know Alex Salmond has yet to have been given that opportunity to have made his voice heard.
It will be heard loud and clear now. I hope the fund raiser breaks £100,000.
Woo hoo! almost £31k already 60%. Its going to make the 100% before the nights out! Almost wish I hadnt re-joined the snp after the WM mp walkout, so i could re-join tonight – hope there is a huge rise in members over the next few days. Cactus, tonight we could do with your… ahem.. joie de vivre!
Just donated and joined the SNP also!
SOAR ALBA
@ Thepnr
Welcome
This is just unbelievable. What a travesty. Just the end. Will ye no come back again.
Just cannot be happening.
What a disgrace.
Does anyone have any knowledge on whether a donation counts as a political donation? I need to ask because I am outside the UK and not on the electoral register anywhere (I would have had to register in an English constituency and there didn’t seem to be any point).
Proud Cybernat 10.16
Welcome to the club, every new member is a clear statement the Regime cannot deny the more members we have the more strength Scotland has, simple.
jings! Over £32k already!!!
Alex. £50 donated. You have done so much for Scotland. We believe in you.
Im confused by the SNPs attitude to this whole affair. Why don’t they acknowledge and forcefully point out that the Permanent Secretary post is NOT a Scottish Government position but a UK Government appointed position. The Civil Service is not subordinated to the Scottish Parliament but is run from and by the Scotland Office under snack beard.
Alex Salmond was never in conflict with the Scottish Government nor his own party so why are we seeing him resign? Why are both Alex and Nicola talking about the case as if it was the Scottish Government who brought it about?
This is like they’re attitude to the BBC and the media they go along with any and all UK state spin instead of pointing out the lies and the transparent bias.
Seriously I don’t know what the fuck they are playing at half the time.
We’ve not seen the last of his bonnets or him!
Leaks = Leask
Gfaetheblock says:
29 August, 2018 at 9:12 pm
link to crowdfunder.co.uk
This is amazing. A tin rattle for the wealthy politician and broadcaster to take the government to court.
effenblock you are showing your true colours.
A sad day, I watched Mr Salmonds video and know already it will never be broadcast in full as it shows up the media and however leaked this information for the total turds they are.
Alex deserves a square go with the media and judicery and I know where my money is going, donation made, f**k them all and you know your cards are marked he is now a completely free agent, good luck with that
@ Proud Cybernat
Welcome
Small donation made. Hopefully the target amount will be reached by midnight.
Do you remember the BBC’s days on end wall to wall coverage of the 40 Tory MPs accussed of sexual harrassment?
link to uk.businessinsider.com
And talking of Millionaire Tories, Edunburgh Southern Labour MSP Daniel Johnston stocking rascist Tintin book in his upmarket shop.
link to commonspace.scot
# I am Eck.
Cubby @ 10.04
Unfortunately,I think there will be more women coming forward!
This will justify the decision to ” make it public ”
If this is coordinated then they probably have a contingent of accusers that are good to go…
A Drip Drip Drip of Headlines…. We will just have to let them get on with it I’m afraid….
We don’t know enough to comment beyond our own area of knowledge…. The Media and the Establishment…. we know them well….
And what we do know is, we don’t believe a word the press say anymore anyway,that,we must keep sayin!
Alex Salmond knows their nature,he is fit fur them…
Take it all the way Chief, we will do all we can.
Don’t agree with suspensions either, hostages to fortune & are too easily seen as implications of guilt.
Just donated. Best wishes to Alex, the greatest Scottish politician of the last 35 years.
@Thepnr 9.43: Snap!! Let’s show the scheming, devious, treacherous, strangers-to-the-truth, bunch that we admire Mr Salmond and will not turn our backs on him now.
@Petra 10.03: Agree that Moira will be suffering too. I hope she reads our comments on the fundraiser and gets some comfort.
Mad Daily Rangers yoon on EBC completely missing the point – our movement’s anger ain’t gonna be directed inward, thats for fecking sure.
I am so sorry to hear of Alex Salmond’s resignation from the SNP. I’ve known Alex Salmond since our time at St. Andrews back in the late 70’s and a more honourable, honest, smart and decent man you couldn’t find. The pygmies who hate him for no other reason than the fact he is all the things they will never be might think they have won. They haven’t! This is merely a stumble…
Chipped in a few bob wish l could do more hopefully we’ll have the final say
That’s the measure of the man.
Knowing Alex Salmond has more integrity in his little finger than exists in all the unionist politicians put together, I suspected this would be his next move. And as a strategist he’s almost without equal. Always three moves ahead.
Off to donate to the crowdfunder.
Skip NC @ 10.30
No Skip it’s not
Alex is not an elected official..
He is not running for office..
And as of tonight he is not a member of a UK political party.
Chipped in and expect to see the target reached by morning, possibly even before bedtime.
It went up by £1000 while I was typing that first sentence.
If you want Scotland to be a normal independent nation then do not buy any of the Britnat papers (propaganda pamphlets). These papers are bad for your mental well being, your blood pressure and your children’s future.
These Britnat papers will die out eventually – let’s just make it sooner rather than later – so that we can have the pleasure of seeing the back of Clegg, Leask etc.
@Proud Cybernat
I’m in good company then. Big cheer for the new members of the SNP 🙂
I hope thousands join, put their noses right out of joint.
“Another Union Dividend says:
29 August, 2018 at 10:34 pm
Do you remember the BBC’s days on end wall to wall coverage of the 40 Tory MPs accussed of sexual harrassment?
link to uk.businessinsider.com
And talking of Millionaire Tories, Edunburgh Southern Labour MSP Daniel Johnston stocking rascist Tintin book in his upmarket shop.
link to commonspace.scot”
Check out this link as well https://Labour25.com or the cover up of a Labour paedophile councillor days before a Coatbridge council election
Crowdfunder asks for postcode, how is it possible to donate from outside Scotland and the bottom half of the island? Frustrating as.
More on plucky Brit Trawler
link to fiskerforum.dk
Dredging for Scallops is shocking .
Honeybourne III PD-905 has a chequered history
Just donated with pleasure to support a true Scottish Hero.
Fund standing at over 74% (£37,000+) with 28 days to go.
So sad. So very brave. Will donate in the morning, but it’s now at £38,000.
Time to stand up for Mr Salmond.
link to crowdfunder.co.uk
Welcome to all the new members of the SNP tonight…you know who you are.
Lots o folk hauding Eck’s Jaicket it seems. 🙂
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@Skip_NC
FWIW my opinion is that any donation you might make is NOT a political contribution. It’s towards defending the principle of innocent until proven guilty.
Trial by media is not on as far as I’m concerned.
ElGordo – it took mine without a quibble, from deep in Wessex
Donated and will contribute more again and again if needed, Agree with much of the sentiments on here tonight. A great man deliberately besmirched by a corrupt establishment and media.
More power to your elbow Alex, go get those involved in the leaks and extract every last penny from them. As for the complainants, unless they can prove their case, which I strongly doubt, go for them financially as well and if there is enough rebuttal evidence to prove they were lying criminal prosecutions should also result.
What we need now is a fair, unbiased legal process. Lets wait and see…..
Cheers, Liz. Now I just have to convince my wife that this is a worthy cause!
Here in the USA, there are several constitutional rights that one has – rights which seem to have been trampled on of late:
The presumption of innocence until proven guilty;
The right, inter alia, to face one’s accusers (article VI of the Bill of Rights);
No ex post facto laws (Article 1, Section 9 of the Constitution)
These are not some airy-fairy notions. They are common-sense safeguards to protect against precisely this sort of vicious attack. If those involved had gone to the police in 2013, the story would have been, at least initially, “a XX year-old man appeared in court and reporting restrictions were not lifted.” But they did not do that and now there is no chance of justice being served, whoever is in the right.
83% 41k 🙂 can we reach 100% before midnight?
The ‘Press’ are supposed to get jail for bribing a public servant. If they got paid for information. Leaked it. It is a police matter.
There had better be no cover up. The SNP is missing a leader. Hurry back.
Still can’t believe it. What will the NE do with a bunch of freaking Tories. Ruining the country. Despicable.
That little masonic bastard Clegg. The DR in the gutter. Along with the rest of them.
The Scotsman on the news claiming that it’s dire financial position is down to Google Facebook algorithms. Ha ha ha – no it’s down to you being a raving looney Britnat pamphlet.
Thats some crowdfunder. With every F5 / Refresh on the page, the total keeps going up. £42230 at 23:05. At this rate it’ll hit the target before midnight. Be afraid, yoons, be very afraid…
Just donated. Now £41,000.
Haste ye back Alex.
Ye cannae make it up, turn yer back on the website and Bang. As in chess – Check!
This has to make a great movie, he’s always one step ahead. Just waiting on someone shouting Freedom!
I think we all knew this would happen. When your target is independence everyone of us will step in and be that missing cog. It’s the people on the ground that are important here, that’s the message in the video and that’s what we need to recognise from this.
Looking forward to checkmate!
Donated and glad to do so with more if needed.
Wonder how the person who passed the details of this to the DR feels right now?
Go get ’em Alex. 😀
To all those joining the SNP you are all so, so welcome!
The post code is to confirm credit card address. Donation can be made from anywhere. It is not a political donation. Alex is no longer a member of a political Party. He could have resigned to take this action. He could have been inhibited by (political) party rules. His only opinion was to resign. To take action.
Still can’t believe it. Shocked. The election result was bad enough.
Wow @thepnr & Proud Cybernat
Never imagined that either of you would ever join the SNP family. Welcome to you both & any others joining tonight.
Crowdfunder now £43,4145
Thanks sog, but wessex is part of the bit at the bottom of scotland, i’m further afield. No UK postcode, no donation it appears. (may be be to avoid donations from rampant russian bots)
Donated and joined the SNP – go get them Alex
You cannae fault the man. He has outplayed his detractors in a great and bold move. Both allowing himself now more play to manouvere his defence and at the same time stop SNP bad play on the oppositions part. If there was ever a statesman,in any other country, Mr Salmond would be amongst the greatest.
The yoons are going ape shit. Murdo nae votes has just blown his 3amp fuse. He is one thick cock.
Apologies if this has been mentioned before. Last month Westminster MPs voted for for a change in their code of conduct which would mean that that MPs being investigated for misconduct of any nature, including sexual harrassment, will not now be identified. They will remain anonymous while being investigated and may not be named even if they are found guilty.
Many of these MPs are revelling in the discomfort of AS and the SNP over the leaked allegations made against him. What a disgusting two faced shower of Bs. When will the Scottish public wake up (or take their noses out of the trough) and get us out of the clutches of this corrupt, lying union.
Contributed.
Thanks for everything, Alex.
Total at 11.18: just over £44,500
Just contributed to the SNP coffers and the Alex Salmond Fund.
Alex Fund is at £45,000.00 in just a few hours.
Magnificent effort and show of support by so many ordinary people
many finding it already difficult to budget under Westminster Austerity.
Very proud of Alex, of Wings, and of Scotland!
The Herald are filth. They can rot in hell.
Strike the shepherd and the sheep will scatter, law 42 of the rules of power, not working to well on me, as im another to join the SNP tonight.
Marching Dunfermline on saterday, to hell with them!
@Gfaetheblock says: 29 August, 2018 at 9:12 pm:
link to crowdfunder.co.uk
” … This is amazing. A tin rattle for the wealthy politician and broadcaster to take the government to court.”
But then YOU would say that wouldn’t you? We all know where your loyalties rest and we can always rely upon you … … to be among the first with a snidie little comment.
The SNP are, or rather were in a tight spot,but Alex has saved their discomfort. What I have realised tonight is that my SNP membership is treasured.What I have also realised is that when the SNP is nnutered in such cases ,it is us, the ordinary men and women united in fighting for a just cause, who step up to the plate and take the fight to them by ourselves.
We are the strength and guardians of independence. We are the fighters and the decisive force to get things moving.
United we are stronger than anybody or anything. Our common will does not bend or flinch in the face of adversity.
We will have justice.
Lol, just over 3K to go. I’m gonna get to bed before midnight. 🙂
Just send a cheque to his address. Strichen. Aberdeenshire. It will get there.
I think the postcode is for the billing address of your credit card.
I’ve just donated and re-joined the SNP.
It should also be made very clear that there is no accusation of sexual ASSAULT. “Harassment” can be a very subjective issue indeed.
Such incidents would hardly be a matter of remark in many other countries.
£3,181 to go.
THE YOONS HAVE GOT THEIR FUCKING HEADLINE.
Goodness. 11.30 and just over £2000 to go.
The big story here is who leaked.
Correction £2,590 to go
Someone on The Herald made an interesting point about these leaks.
‘The Record also claims to have seen the ‘witness’ statements. As there have been no reports of a break -in the natural conclusion is that these statements were leaked somewhere in the department. As a trade unionist this gives me no confidence that it is safe to come forward with any allegation in the Civil Service.’
This was on the article ‘Unions give ‘full support’ to top official in Salmond case’
Now at £47,410. Can we make £50k by midnight?
Well,Alex is deflecting damage from us and from Nicola, and I think it is a sad but good tactical move I feel sure he will be back and cleared.
The crowd fund is important but not only for the money, but a show of support by numbers.
So I hope we have very many participants, my donation is in, also my partner who is not very political, but she had a tear in her eye watching Alex’s video, she also donated.
So I really hope we all rise to show our support for Alex and send these shit bags a message.
This is all backfiring very badly for the Yoons
If Alex’s is name cleared, what of the accusers? Their names are certain to come out. Can they live with it? What of their “sponsors”? Their reputations will be in shreds. No respectable employer would touch them with a barge pole. If in business, who would want to be associated with them.
Somehow, I don’t think the perpetrators have taken the long view.
Sue them? Why. More to be pitied than pissed upon. Just treat them with the contempt they deserve.
MI5 involved? Remember, the SNP were/are on WM’s terrorist list. The gun has been used in the past, eg, Willie MacRae, cut wrists, etc. Are they losing their touch?
The odour puts H2S in the aroma of Chanel No 5.
Murdo Fraser can get lost. The unionists will get the backlash from this. It will be the trigger to put up the Independence figures. Increase support. The Tory unionists had already lost it. 3rd rate rejects, This will finish them off. The Brexit shambles. Sanctioning and starving people. Taking £Billions from Scotland. Psycho bastards. Lying hypocrites.
My, my some unionists showing their true colours tonight. Their venomous hatred of Alex Salmond and anybody who doesn’t bend the knee to English colonial rule over Scotland is truly something to behold.
Less than £1500 to target. Can Alex smash it before midnight?
But don’t stop there folks. Any underspend from Alex’s fighting fund will be going to charities in Scotland. Keep it motoring.
The Alex Salmond Fund Raiser is now £1,800 away from its £50,000 target.
We may well reach this goal before Midnight if everyone can give a Scottish Pound or Two.
Man 1K to go with 10 mins left. Gonna be tight.
Anyone else just sitting refreshing the crowdfunding site?
The Yoons are very unhappy – don’t they just love to tell people how to spend their own money? Just remembered how much I really dislike David Clegg, he’s not going to be forgotten for this one. Yoon journos are desperate to promote the idea of a split in the Indy movement and SNP, but nope no-one is biting. Alex Salmond has had a colourful history with the party and hopefully will be back stronger than ever.
Those folks counting down the donations please make sure you donate. Just a pound if you can.
That’s 3 times this evening that I’ve logged onto Wings and been told cannot connect can’t find Server (words to that affect). And yet if I log onto other sites it connects straight away.
Its as if there’s interference. Hahahaha.
Just looked at the total 48,800 at 2348 hrs.
Superb. Huv tae stay up late on. Wiz going tae have an early night n aw.
£600 to go.
Ten minutes to push the crowdfunder over the 50k by midnight. That’ll wind up the yoonatic fringe.
The fundraiser went rather well, our Yoonish choooms will have to settle for a poor second prize … that we are all a shower of bastards. Obviously their desired first prize would have been to see the fundraiser sit at £5 for 28 days. That didn’t happen.
I hope Alex nails this and then we can turn our attention to those that would smear.
£475 to go
Crowd funder link, for any new arrivals
link to crowdfunder.co.uk
7 minutes to midnight and just under £400 to go to reach the targetted £50,000
23:55 Done.
Fifty thousand pounds raised towards Salmond’s court costs in just a few hours!
The shadowy organizers of this political witch hunt are suddenly realising it was an appalling tactical error to pick on this man.
£51K BEFORE MIDNIGHT!!!
Incredible response from Scotland.
Fifty quid with 3 mins to go
23.56
£51,260 raised.
crowdfunder site has crashed.
A few minutes to midnight and two grand over. Yaaaaaaas!
Crowdfunder got to £49,685 then put up a notice that the site is down. Hey we crashed it. Give yourselves a pat on the back everyone
Smashed it!£51,280
Had tae, just had tae… nother donation made. Go get em Alex.
Crowdfunder crashed as folk rushed to get the 50 K target by midnight!
We did it! Surpassed the target by midnight!
Target reached and I doubt I have contributed to a better cause, we know you’ll use the money wisely Alex we have your back.
#forFairness right enough because that’s what we all expect.
link to crowdfunder.co.uk
We made it. Now let’s nail it for YES.
Expect the IDs of the accusers to be made public, very soon. Ehm … is their any possibility of us having a grown-up debate sometime soon regarding the morality of the scandal-merchants known collectively as: The Free Press?
Not one of the misfits could tie the man’s laces!
Done and more well done all
£51,725 at 2358 hrs
FANTASTIC
Crowdfund smashes the £50k at 11:57pm ?
And it is over £51,000 before midnight
Wow, just wow!! 100%, £50,000 in just over three hours. Craig Murray just bumped it over with his £1000. So much support out there and that will puts a few peoples’ gas at a peep.
Fundraiser over its target well done folks and thanks to all who gave, message sent I think.
big thanks to craig murray, job done!
Well, in 4 short hours, the 50k has been met and rising.
The support from people in Scotland and further afield is simply stunning, I think Alex Salmond will be deeply touched by the support shown from all of us.
Target exceeded before midnight. Currently £51,840.
Midnight and the fundraiser is now past the £50,000 target. Well done Alex and everyone who chipped in.
Time for lights out.
Tomorrow will be another rollercoaster on the UK chaos fest.
Congratulations of giving £50,000.00 to the Justice Fund of Alex Salmond
Well done to Craig Murray with a £1K donation that blew away the £50K target by midnight – still going strong up about £52k now
It’s there – 51,540 quid. 🙂
And it’s burst the 50k before midnight! That’s them yoons getting well telt 🙂
2356. Over 100%
Through the £50,000 with three minutes to go till midnight!!!!
SNP inundated with new members.
Nicola Sturgeon eliciting huge respect
This is a huge backfire
They do not understand Scotland
Time for indyref2 to be under serious consideration.
Fantastic! Its not just about the money – we are all buzzing. I think AS is a very smart cookie.
The fund reached £52,000 just minutes past midnight. Mostly by lots of folk putting in small sums. That is a lesson in itself. But all the same, credit to those who could and did put in more.
What people! What a nation! 🙂
Well blow me this grippy, short arms long pockets SOB admires AS for so long he has donated & joined a political party.
‘an a feel f###ing great about it.
I too feel support & consideration should be directed at Moira, someone we really do not know but deserves to be considered in this nightmare.
Being a Winger, wi’ ma flash gold badge, is one thing.
Being a Winger and SNP Member , “now thats clever”
Big Smiley fing
Could someone explain (succinctly)what a Judicial Review in the court of session means.
`Succinct`- said in a clear and short way; expressing what needs to be said without unnecessary words.
ta.
Hello from Tassie:
Wonderful to see big support for Alex Salmond.
He is a good man and I’m sure will be cleared of any wrong doing. Trying to pull him down will work against the unionists. The unionists do seem to be very worried now. Support for Independence growing, WM in a complete mess – world will see that the Scots think for themselves and the majority of them are no longer brainwashed!
Love to all true supporters for Scotland on Wings.
They are going to regret taking him on. Alex is now unleashed and will come out with both guns blazing.
NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSIT
Before any decision being made by this judicial review this ‘confidential’ complaints procedure has been destroyed by The Daily Record.
How much confidence would you have in the confidentiality of the Complaints procedure if there was a possibility of your name being leaked to the press?
Aberdeen City Council. Tory/Labour/-LibDem who became an Independent kept in power by a two job Tory. £1.2Billion in debt. The SNP got most candidates. The only time the City was well run and balanced the books. An SNP coalition. STV to give the non existent Unionists and No Party unfair advantage. Wasting public money on grotesque monstrosities no one wants. Lying empty. Not funding public services.
Aberdeenshire Council Tory/LibDem. The LibDems voted Tory to get them in. 70 Councillors sitting in a £Billion HQ’s. When schools are overcrowded and teachers short. Lack of essential funding. Landowners and their cronies. Milking the public purse. Getting local Gov contracts and overcharging. One of the wealthiest people in Scotland. Another unionist Sir getting public land transferred for profit. Making a packet.
The LibDems voted Tory to oust Alex Salmond. Targeted Black funding. Illegal.
The stinking P&J owned by Dundee unionist. Supporting a struggling football team. Sectarianism has ruined football. The terraces are empty. The taxman cometh. Her Maj revenues and custom.
Alex Salmond got funding for the AWPR and got it built. The best thing to ever happen in the NE. The Bay wind turbines, expanded the airport and the Golf development. The SNP Gov the best thing to happen in the NE/Scotland, Along with Alex. He was right all along. What a way to treat someone. The unionists will get the backlash from this. They are finished.
Astounding! Sadly, this is probably only the first out of a number of allegations against leading independence figures. We’ll probably have to crowdfund a good bit more between now and the referendum.
A judicial review is when you think the legal process has been faulty and you seek an action of declarator – a legal statement to that effect, that the process has been defective. And thus invalid.
It’s not the same thing as defeating the case so much as undermining the basis on which it proceeds.
Skip @ 11.02
The points you raise are exactly my concerns about the way the :: real, very real :: problem of sexual harassment in the work place has been presented and handled.
It seems to me that the system to supposedly mitigate the lack of redress, is in fact a system that by its very ambiguity not only doesn’t serve the women it’s supposed to protect.
But rather has been hi jacked as a “controll” over anyone who threatens the system..
They used abused women… once again… as vehicle to right their wrongs..
We will be writing a Constution very soon, Skip and I do hope and will agitate towards… learning the lessons of History.
For the avoidance of doubt… I am referring to all the abused women whose struggle has initiated the current process, not the two Women directly involved here….. A process which I believed , then , as it developed , and now as , the Yes movement are getting to know …. Is wrong and deeply flawed , nothing about it helps anyone…
It’s introduction into the Yes movement hopefully demonstrates the glaring flaws in the process….
And we must learn from it.
I’m so proud tonight that we are all stepping up to help take this from the hand of the Media and put it into our Courts (that’s what we are Really doing)
Nicola Sturgeon is working within these peramiters… I admire her management within these peramiters … but this is one area that needs to trash the framework so that even she can do what needs to be done to stop this “abysmal behaviour “ in its tracks..
It’s no rocket science
I’m afraid my contribution will have to wait until later today but it will be there. Anyway I’d just like to point out that it was always SNP policy for anyone being under investigation to resign the party whip if they were an elected to government member or if a party official to resign from the party.
It was probably never been a written rule but it has been the way it was usually been done. Remember that the SNP has a very different way of running than any other party in that it is led from the bottom up democratically. The rest are more like dictatorships with wee emperors telling the underlings what to do.
In any case when Alex was being accused of anything by other parties, or by the media and they did not follow through with an official complaint then Alex referred himself for official investigation. Now my take on such a way of doing is that only someone with a completely clear conscience would act in such a manner.
And another thing – Mr Salmond was never one to be greedy. He not only, (as did most other SNP elected members), refuse to accept pay rises when the public was suffering cuts and Mr Salmond, when sitting as both an MP & an MSP donated one salary to charity.
BTW: As the MPs and MSP were not allowed to just not take their official rises they all donated the rises to their chosen charities. Are you listening Gaefaetheblock?
Finally my best wishes to Mrs Salmond who must also be suffering greatly at this time. Our thoughts are with you Moira – the power behind the man.
The shock of the lying allegations and now this. The unionists liars. Increasing anxiety and annoyance. Destabilising the world. The dancing bot. A complete embarrassment.
Hothersall has gone to drink. He needs help. The state of it. On the wrong side.
A great big thanks to the Britnats who also donated to the Salmond fundraiser. What a bunch of diddies.
I see that Jo Swinson is sticking her oar into Alex and indy supporters.
alistair x
“Strike the shepherd and the sheep will scatter, law 42 of the rules of power, not working to well on me, as im another to join the SNP tonight.
Marching Dunfermline on saterday, to hell with them!
Know how you felt, there comes a time when you just say “To hell with It” and I’m in just like your good self.
Lets work hard to make this country Independent and a better place.
Thepnr – I love it that you’re all joining the best party in the world. 🙂 Big hugs and welcome one and all.
See you in Edinburgh.
‘Accounts reveal cash slump at pro-UK campaign group
THE finances of Scotland’s leading anti-independence group have slumped, it has emerged.
Scotland in Union’s funds almost halved last year, according to its latest accounts.’
Jo Swinson. The Libdem absence when the Tories could have been brought down, who facilitated Brexit. Total hypocrite liars. Useless.
ALANM says:
29 August, 2018 at 9:58 pm
“My advice to Alex is to simply walk away from political life and leave his fair weather friends in the Scottish Government to get on with it. He’s been hung out to dry by the party leadership and so it’s not surprising that he’s decided to resign.
The damage has now been done and no amount of expensive lawyers will change that.”
Exactly.
Rock (26th August – “An uncommon act”):
“They are out to get Alex Salmond and the Rev. Stuart Campbell by any means possible.
They are not too worried about Establishment lawyer Nicola who stood “shoulder to shoulder” with Saint Theresa and the “ghastly” Boris Johnson as they declared war on Russia after a false flag operation.
Nicola is not going to call an independence referendum before Brexit has been completed.”
Albaman says:
29 August, 2018 at 9:25 pm
““Don’t let the bastards get you” Alex.”
Sadly, the bastards rule.
The Scottish justice system is rotten to the core and the vast majority of lawyers, especially judges, are the lowest of the low.
mistah alex he NOT dead
Throughout his career, Lexo was always a lot smarter than his opponents. How many has he seen off?
As for the allegations – he’s “got this” I think. He is forcing a showdown with someone he knows is bluffing, has a pair of deuces, hee-haw and fuck-all. He has drawn their sting, removed the element of surprise.
These are all solid, Bobby Fischer-level chess-moves – take it to the “highest court in the land” – resigning for good reasons (and good publicity) – getting the public support directly …
The enemy are predictable, charging into their own trap. He might have even been war-gaming this for some time, decision trees and all – the only conclusion to it can be
Return of the ‘LEX
– when this all becomes resolved, the entire screeching yooniverse will be sitting in a cold sweat, depressed-as-fuck, thinking
“we bin fuckin PLAYED – he DONE US – AGAIN”
For the past few days, ALL anyone has been talking about is Alex.
“The only thing worse than being talked about, is not being talked about …”
He’s “got this”.
Our own LEX-zilla will return to smash Broon-Dan.
Everyone on-Forum is rightly outraged about all this – don’t be – accept the opportunity for what it is – the enemy have fired a torpedo that may well become a boomerang. Anger is an “energy” – tonight the place has crackled with intensity and focussed-rage. This is good.
@TJenny
Happy now be part of it, you all seem like such nice people and not the evil Wings lot that I’d been led to believe 🙂
Happy too in seeing that the fundraiser has now reached over £54K and I’m pretty sure that because of the late hour and once word gets out tomorrow that will be well exceeded.
I’ll see you in Edinburgh right enough, will be there with my wife who’s not normally keen but will be going to what is sure to be the biggest march evr in Scotland for any cause.
That’s something I’d like to see Alex Salmond leading in front.
Cheers for all Alex for now, look forward to your return to the party, in the meantime, remain unleashed and do what ye do best, cause the quickening is quickening…
Crowdfunder funded by midnight, nae boost frae me required fionan, Scotland did it 😉
Alex for President!
Just heard the news. Near greeting watching video.
Not much more to add to what’s been said already.
With you all the way Mr Salmond. So pleased your crowdfunder has exceeded it’s target.
I won’t be in Edinburgh on the 6th Oct., but sure hope you are right there at the front.
Cleggy on TV crowing. The Police should investigate him and the DR how they got the information to publish statements. If money was paid. Bribing public officials is a criminal offence punishable with jail. Murdoch accomplices went to jail. Took the slack when it should have been him. The comments being allowed on the Herald filth are appalling. They have just totally miscalculated,
It wouldn”t just be Brexit that puts Independence support higher. It will be how Alex Salmond is being treated. Just despicable, it will make the Independence movement stronger. How the unionists have miscalculated. It will come back to bite. Another own goal. The backlash will be huge.
Even Hothersall is delighted Alex has reached his target. He needs urgent help. Gone to drink. Torrance can’t get enough of Alex. Tried to make a living out of him. The cash accumulator. Alex likes a gamble but has nothing but respect and support for women. Always keeps a safe distance. He has promoted them.
Come on over everyone. The air is lovely, The future is sweet.
The bastard unionists another restless night. They are making everyone ill. Sanctioning and starving people. Taking £Billions from Scotland with total mismanagement. £20Billion a year. What’s not to like about Independence. Win, win. Alex Salmond always wins.
The SNP are winning and always will. Despite the stitch up to the electoral system. There is a quota. Thousands of SNP votes go in the bin. To let 9th rate unionists in. Voters can’t get rid of them. An affront to democracy that should be changed.
Nicola will be overwhelmed at the Conference. It will be all about Alex Salmond. They can’t keep a good man down. He always gets the biggest cheer. So popular. It has worked out brilliantly increased support. Go get ’em Alex. Scotland has your back. You have the greatest support,
Even the lying allegations are insignificant to events. Lying unionist bastards, Trying to destroy democracy. Without a free and fair Press there is no democracy. The unionists have seen to that. Thatcher and the Westminster crooks. Breaking the code of conduct. Scotland is fighting back. Alex at the front. Alex for President. They have not heard the end of it by any way.
Keep right on to the end of the road. Keep right on to the end. Though the way be long just keep journeying on. Independence, freedom and self determination, like any nation. For prosperity and happiness.
O/T
Great video of the Dundee March
link to youtube.com
Great to bear witness to the massive support for Alex Salmond, an inspirational leader who has dedicated his life to our common cause of Independence.Hope this sorry mess is resolved as quickly as possible and more than willing to donate again, as and when.The more the Britnats froth, the more I will donate. Good luck Alex.
Just read some of the comments below the fund raiser 99.9% behind Mr Salmond – I only found 2 silly , stupid schoolboy comments in my perusal.
One does wonder at the intellectual capacity of an adult who thinks writing c u next Tuesday’ or’ FU bloated groping Scotsman’as a moniker is at all clever or incisive doncha?
Tories and liebour claim snp are takine Scotland into the gutter!! Life looks different looking up from the U bend I suppose. The parties of foodbanks and attacks on the poor, the anti-semites and trumpists. 2 parties on different sides of the same coin covered in excrement of brit unionism. All promoted by the foreign owned press and BBC. The same people who hacked dead peoples phones and hired helicoptors to defame Cliff Richard able assisted by the Police.
My disgust at this shower knows no bounds. Clegg and co smugness will backfire. Daily Record no more.
Donated this morning. Total now not far off £58,000. Absolutely amazing.
ElGordo – the postcode is for your credit card billing address. It accepted mine, and I’m in Spain.
Dorothy Devine @ 7.05
I’ve seen some negative comments while wandering around the net…
And yes ye do wonder at the intellect of some, but also at the motives of those who should know better.
If the procedure is flawed then the judgement that’s produced to correct it will be for everyone!!!
Not Alex Salmond personally but everyone!!!
That’s worth getting behind…and that’s a thing that should be done as a crowd.
They know this but still they whine…
First he resigns as first minister after the referendum, then he loses his seat in the GE and now he feels forced to resign from the party he’s served for many years
And he’s still No1
What a guy
I am now a member of the SNP ?
David Clegg Daily Record on BBC GMS claimed Alex Salmond has five pensions which is bullocks like his paper.
And also joined the SNP
Saddened as I was to see this it makes sense. He is unshackled to defend his corner. It also frees up all the rubbish slung at SNP.
But one thing can you please do a piece on Rhoda Grant MSP. She has been toxic against Alex when others have been dignified. I feel she has breached standards code 7 in treatment of others and or constituents.
Leaving aside the rights and wrongs of this particular case, we now appear to have a situation where any politician in Scotland can be forced out of politics, perhaps for good, at the whim of a single civil servant recruited and employed by the UK Government.
Not exactly an ideal situation if you happen to be a member of the SNP.
Another alternative media outlet closed down, this time by US sanctions against Venezuela. I like the Abby Martin programmes on Tele Sur so naturally they are the target of neo liberal wrath.
link to mediaroots.org
Car crash interview by Tory MP for Gordon on BBC GMS who is trying to attack Nicola Sturgeon and Alex Salmond
Colin Clark on GMS repeatedly being asked if Salmonds actions should be treated as a template for other political parties. All he could do was repeat that the resignation was an attempt to cloud the issue. Did he really finally say ‘NO?’
@Sunniva says: 30 August, 2018 at 12:48 am:
I see that Jo Swinson is sticking her oar into Alex and indy supporters.”
Aye! Sunniva, but could you envisage that particular individual ever doing otherwise?.
Just heard someone on Radio Jockland, I was attending to my breakfast so missed the Jockland introduction of the numptie, It was obviously more in hope than in fact, attempting to talk up splits within the SNP because of the events yesterday.
I may be wrong, but it is my impression, any actual evidence there is indicates exactly the opposite is actually taking place. He was attempting to say that Alex was ultra wealthy and had several good pensions to draw upon. Now again I may be wrong but I’m almost certain that Alex donated some of his government pensions but most certainly some of his Golden Handshakes directly to Scottish charities of his choice.
This information is beyond doubt:-
link to bbc.co.uk
link to telegraph.co.uk
link to pressandjournal.co.uk
The accusations are obviously false.
Anyway give Garry his due he is, at this moment, roasting NE Tory Colin Clark who is attacking Nicola and claiming Nicola has badly handled the matter. I never thought I’d ever praise Garry but there you go.
Like most people here I see this as an establishment setup.
At least they haven’t staged a suicide with the gun to be found 50 metres away like Willie MacRae…
There is a definite aroma of sh*te wafting about fanned by the predictable wafters. It stinks, so much so I’ve contributed to his crowdfund – now sitting at £58k – and hope transparency exposes the ‘real agenda’ behind it all.
link to crowdfunder.co.uk
Clear from Clegg. Labour and tory spokespersons that the individuals who have made allegations are just pawns. Not once did they show any concerns. Its independence, its the snp members and its the First Minister they are after. Can I claim that I am being harassed?
It would seem that yet again, Alex Salmond has wrong-footed his opponents. Given the moaning and greeting by unionists overnight, it is clear they had planned to use this against the SNP non-stop, once the parliament returns. Now Mr. Salmond has outplayed them. AGAIN.
Their whining is truly pitiful.
Truly their are precious few on the unionist side who behave with any shred of dignity or decency. They are like rabid, deranged, hate-filled demons, obsessed to the core with hating Scotland and its people. It is a truly unsavoury sight to watch the behaviour and abusive utterings of some of them.
Incidentally, I do not doubt for one second that Notes are being taken of those who are openly lying about and smearing the former first minister. They too will be hauled up in court.
The more these hateful, Scotland hating animals attack us, they stronger we become. ‘Nemo me impune lacessit’, as it says on the entrance to Edinburgh castle, with Wallace and Bruce on either side. ‘I will not be attacked with impunity.’
This all makes me even more determined to get Scottish independence ASAP.
Hail Alba.
@Scot Finlayson says: 30 August, 2018 at 12:15 am:
” … Could someone explain (succinctly)what a Judicial Review in the court of session means.”
Is yon, “succinct”, enucht fir ye? Scot?
Leslie Deans appears to be employed by the Scottish Gov, Her husband is an SNP activist. She could support the SNP and Independence, although she is not allowed to have political affiliations. It is now a question of who is running the Gov. It would appear an unelected service servant has more power and has been allied to usurp the Scottish Gov power, An unelected civil servant on a higher salary.
The question is now not just about the allegations. The question is how the Press got a hold of the ‘Statements’. The Police should be questioning Clegg. If money changed hand for information. Bribing a public official punishable with prison. Some of Murdoch’s lot were charged with corruption and hacking. They went to jail.
The comments allowed on the Herald are appalling. Deflammatory and breaking the Law. The Police should be in there. These editors/organisations need to be held to account. They are destroying democracy. Without a free and fair Press there is no democracy. The UK doesn’t have one, especially in Scotland, Non Dom tax evaders own the ‘Press’. Tanking in everyway. The BBC is a disgrace controlled by Westminster.
Whit are ye a’ like
I go to make my donation this morning and find the target was smashed last night!
Oh well – at least I helped it over the 60k line 🙂
Mr Peffers , perfect for me and thank you kindly sir!
Liz , I should imagine the seething British nationalists have been chewing the carpets in any TV/Radio studio that will have them and the Leasks , Gordons and Cleggs of this world have been sharpening their pencils all night in an effort to write some damning drivel.
I have to take my hat off to the comment made by Mr McWhirter on the Revs twitter feed – perhaps there is still a fair and honest journalist left in Scotland , even if he is uncomfortably sitting on a fence.
P.S fundraiser sitting at 61,000 plus.
@Greannach says: 30 August, 2018 at 12:22 am:
” … Astounding! Sadly, this is probably only the first out of a number of allegations against leading independence figures.”
Now I may well be wrong, Greannach, but I believe it is rather hard to type allegations with severely burnt fingers.
There sure as hell is a pungent smell of burnt digits in the Scottish air. To date I’ve had no reports from friends and Wingers about burnt fingers – mind you if they had been burnt they wouldn’t be typing about it now would they?
Donating to this just feels right
Switched on the news – immediately switched off again after hearing Toodleoothenoo saying “Scottish Labour has said Mr Salmond has dragged Scottish politics into the gutter” without the merest hint of irony or disbelief.
Brian MacLeod says:
30 August, 2018 at 7:46 am
“Like most people here I see this as an establishment setup”
And becoming more obvious by the day. There is no focus on the new procedure, the selective actions of the PS, the leak of documents to the DR, nor the timing of the complaints/alleged incident.
The story is now Nicola BAD, Alex Salmond BAD and how very dare he set up a crowdfunder.
Can’t wait till it all comes back to bite them in the arse.
Did he go of his own accord or was he pushed? The crocodile is very upset it seems.
Viva Alex!
The integrity of the man just shines through in everything he says here. Resigning for the benefit of the party he loves and the wider movement. Can you see the likes of Rees-Mogg or Boris doing similar to save the Tories or brexit were they to be accused under similar circumstances? That’s a rhetorical question btw, I think we all know the answer to that.
The Yoons are going way over the top, with lots opening the door to being sued. The have opened a pandora’s box and should have unexpected consequences for them.
Regardless of the fund monies, what I hope for now, is that a huge number support the fund. I would rather see 10 people add £10 to it than one for a £100.
With a huge number joining in,would make the yoons foam at the mouth even more, and make a great statement from us. They have went a step too far, and they are going to know it.
As mcWhirter said, this ain’t over.
Colin Clark – the ‘Salmond slayer’. That was the boast from the numpties. Receiver of dark money. The LibDems voted Tory. Millionaire landowners. Some not paying their council tax. The Tory liars who have destroyed the NE and Scotland. Ruined the Oil & Gas sector. Ruined the fishing industry for years.Lost Scotland £Billions and thousands of jobs.
Alex Salmond got the AWPR build. The best thing that has ever happened in the NE. Expanded the airport, the Bay Turbines and the Golf development, Alex Salmond has done more for the NE/Scotland then anyone. The Tories/unionists have ruined it. Lied and secretly taken £Billions out of Scotland with gross mismanagement. Tom Mason the two job Tory. Peter Chapman. List not elected. If predictions are correct. The SNP will sweep the board. They would anyway without the illegal, non mandated, unionist electoral system corruption.
Support for the SNP and Independence rising.
Alex’s fundraiser may well have to keep on running in case there is a protracted legal process. I’ve lost count of the number of legal fees fundraisers I’ve contributed to over the past few years.
Appalling that the cost of defending yourself is astronomical. The law seems to be a weapon the oligarchs have fashioned for themselves. Let’s turn it into a boomerang.
The link I posted to the Tele Sur article came from a comment on Craig Murray’s blog. I should have said above. There are often interesting links in the comments.
To all our new SNP members, a thousand welcomes
@Robert Peffers,
cheers,
but can you translate that succinctly into non legalese English,
i know i will be asked about Alex all day long and i need a simple plain English explanation of what a judicial review is and why Alex wants one,
ta,
langmayyerlumreek.
So, for the first time ever, I added s.@.o.r alba to the end of my comment above. Ok, I might have missed this ,but can somebody tell me, are we not allowed to post the phrase ‘Hail Alba’ on here? I had it at the end of my comment at 0751, and it has been changed to ‘hail caesar. It’s all very well to hate Gaelic, but seriously….
If it has been changed by this site, then GTF wings. Jeezo, Gaelic haters eh! Grow up.
Just for the record you can post ‘saor Alba’ on The telegraph and Guardian and it won’t be changed.
Get an offing grip,please. Oh and feel free to block a posting, but don’t effing well change it. No other media site would dream of doing so.
So just for clarity my comment above at 0751 doesn’t say ‘hail caesar’, that has been deliberately ADDED and manipulated by somebody else, and is a distortion of my views or opinion.
“So, for the first time ever, I added s.@.o.r alba to the end of my comment above. Ok, I might have missed this ,but can somebody tell me, are we not allowed to post the phrase ‘Hail Alba’ on here? I had it at the end of my comment at 0751, and it has been changed to ‘hail caesar. “
Comment rule #8, clearly stated on the About page and linked in the text above the comment box, where it also says in bold type “DO NOT SIGN YOUR COMMENTS, either with a name or a slogan.”:
“8. Remember you’re talking to people.
If you were in the pub with some friends and someone asked you what you wanted to drink, would you say “Pint of lager shandy, please, Bob. ALBA GU BRATH!”? If you wouldn’t bellow slogans at them every time you’d finished speaking, then don’t do it in bloody comments either.”
As an incentive to people to OBEY THE FUCKING RULES, automatic filters edit slogans and banned words into something else. You don’t like it, follow the rules like everyone else.
How dare Scottish Labour suggest Alec Salmond has pulled Scottish politics down to the Labour Parties level, so-called Scottish Labour needs to pay more attention to the old saying … There is none so blind as those who will not see, as you blindly assist an other Country pull Scotland to destruction.
So, when someone criticises the Scottish Govt, they’re called a Unionist etc, because the Scottish Govt is theoretically run by the SNP.
So, now that Alex Salmond is critical of the Scottish Govt and actually suing them, is he now a unionist etc?
Or will some Wingers finally realise that there is a big difference between supporting independence and supporting the Westminster devolution Scottish Govt?
You can support independence but be highly critical of the Westminster devolution administration at Holyrood.
And will people finally realise that the SNP politicians are just mouth pieces of Govt: they often take little involvement in day to day running of Govt and let civil servants get on with it, even when those civil servants are abusing human rights and fiddling the books etc.
When the Scot Govt are told of these complaints by the ordinary public they are ignored. It’s the same civil servants that do the abuse that then handle the complaints.
Alex Salmond went straight to legal action; he knows better than to waste his time with the Scot Govt complaint process and SPSO.
He knows that that system is designed to frustrate and fob off the general public who complain about abuses by public authorities including the Scottish Govt.
Let me predict the next stage….
The charges will be dropped stating that the claimants withdrew on the basis of intolerable pressure from the nationalists.
This will stop any details emerging to be challenged but leave a nasty smear for future use.
Political opposition and their media need to be really, really careful what they wish for. They just might get it and it won’t be all what they expected.
The silence on ongoing investigations on the activities of members of all parties is deafening. People are very aware of these and the hypocrisy at the heart of their current behaviour. People are also very aware of what they are trying to achieve with this latest action and that it goes far beyond Mr Salmond.
Mr Salmond is apparently also very aware of that agenda, which is why he took the action he did last night. The aim of course is to destroy Mr Salmond and by doing so cripple both the SNP as a government and the YES movement as a force for positive change.
Just so policy gonks know? You’re more than a little transparent.
Over £60,000 now! I wonder how much people like Clegg or Leask could raise from the general public? Nought?
Well done to all those who have donated, including Craig Murray who pushed it over the line, and those who have now joined the SNP giving Nicola a much needed boost too. Welcome to the club, lol.
BBC’s Toodleoothenoo (went to St Andrews Uni at the same time as Alex) covered the issue fairly well but ended by saying that the Labour Party in Scotland, the Westminster lackey branch office, have stated that the crowdfunder is “dragging Scottish politics into the gutter.”
That’s the party that hid the “Scotland could be the richest country in the World McCrone Report”, handed over 6000 sq mls of Scottish seas including 7 oil fields to Westminster behind our backs, stomped Glasgow into the ground, exploited female workers for decades, shackled Scotland with billions of PFI debt, robbed pension pots of billions, dragged us into an illegal war which resulted in millions being killed, injured, displaced and generated real hatred towards the UK etc, etc, etc.
Forget about Scottish politics. The Labour Party in Scotland, at the behest of their London bosses, has attempted to drag Scotland, and therefore the Scots, into the gutter. Brass neck or what?
I’ve read that Westminster, England, politicians won’t be outed if accused of sexual harassment (no “safe place” for the accusers there, then). If so the Permanent Secretary in Scotland, Leslie Evans a regular visitor to Westminster, should have included a similar amendment when she was adding the one that included involving former politicians. Strange that she didn’t. Then again it may have been an oversight taking into account that she doesn’t seem to have the appropriate qualifications for such a prestigious job? A music degree?
I’ve also read that the Daily Rag is aware of the details of the two allegations. If so why haven’t they published both? Is the other more serious? Or less so? Whatever the case I’d imagine that every Unionist worker at Holyrood will be racking their brains trying to dredge up some story or another. Hopefully this crowdfunder / support for Alex and Alex’s strength and decency of character will act as a real deterrent.
The opposition says the SNP are ravaged by civil war, below is a list of all of those members engaged in this unedifying spectacle of civil war
0 and on further investigation 0
Unless I’ve miscounted
I see that Mr Alexander is on hoping to detract from this subject and in the process encourage some to respond in a vile way. Please do not respond especially taking into account many people here in the UK, and further afield, will be following this thread.
Alex should ask for costs. The unionists will have to pay for it. They started it. It will really annoy them. Win, win.
Has the daily record promised a scoop story with payment in kind? I think clegg should tell the police in the spirit of openess.
Google judicial review. Or e-Mail Peat
Dr Jim says:
In their dreams. From the opposition parties which are themselves ravaged by civil war!
The SNP is the only one holding ranks. And it will stay that way. We are a bawhair away from achieving our ultimate goal, there will be no civil war.
If Labour believe that Alex is dragging the SNP into the gutter, it can only be from their vantage point looking up from the sewer beneath the gutter.shovelling shit looking for treasure is never an enriching pastime.
They have been deprived of headlines and are very angry.
Sectarian Tories, Labour pornography scandals, do not seem to matter much, but anything SNP gets the full treatment.
Time to fight back friends by supporting our own.
People were really sad, annoyed and angry. Get even.
This attack on Alex Salmond is an attack on all of us in the YES movement. Innocent until proved guilty is an important principle to defend.
Also, I don’t believe Alex Salmond is guilty. Why? I have read a great deal about his long career, including a biography written by a hostile critic, David Torrance. Never was there any suggestion of improper behaviour towards women. Wouldn’t a hostile critic have used it if it existed?
I could be wrong. But everything about this episode reeks of smear campaign. Even publicising this on the anniversary of the death of William Wallace fits the Unionist habit of contaminating iconic Scottish anniversaries with their bile.
Clootie says:
Yup, very likely.
The allegations and investigation should be secret, they aren’t, they were leaked.
Those same dark forces which leaked the existence of allegations and investigation for political gain are just as likely to leak the identities of the claimants. They may find themselves sacrificed in the name of their UKOK.
One of the purposes of a False Allegation is to divide and conquer, to separate the accused from former friends and allies and take the ground out from under their feet, so they can never be sure who is still loyal and who has moved away.
I am so, so please that Alex has done this fundraiser, because quite apart from the money aspect, it has allowed me to step up to the plate and show him I don’t believe the allegations, and I fully support his actions to ensure fair procedure.
Turns out I wasn’t the only one;)
Oh to be a fly on the wall in WM’s cave while the person responsible is looking at the way Alex has turned this all the way around, and is now running around, pulling their hair out, and shouting F***, F***, F***.
Take good care of yourself Alex. Best wishes to all.
This is now war, a political war, good !, I’ve been waiting a long time for it to come.
Bows the time when when the gloves come off, cause make no mistake, THIS is about the future of the S.N.P. and Scotland!.
Clootie , I am in complete agreement . That scenario fits perfectly.
However , the judicial review challenge is for us all and should protect individuals in the future.
I said a week ago when this all first broke that Alex was highlighting this as ‘fake news’ and he was spiking their cannon before any Indyref2 – nice to see we’re supplying the ammo in spades!!! 🙂
Such is the outrage of Indy folk (and others) on this attack on a great Scottish patriot, that more folks are JOINING the SNP.
Unintended consequences that will really annoy the perpetrators,
and make them rue the day they started all this.
This will suit Alex, as well as us. Indy support will rise and the chance to make it come true will surely follow very soon.
Aided and abetted by all fractions of the Unionist cabal and their complicit actions, an own goal, and irony in the extreme.
Now sitting over £65k! And I haven’t thrown my few bawbies into the hat yet.
It’s Thursday, piggy (pension) day so after the bills etc. are sorted I’ll be putting something in just to wind up the muck spreaders a bit more.
Go Alex, go Scotland, go independence!
The loonie yoonies were foaming at the mouth and angrily demanding his resignation. The same are now furious that he has done so.
The last few days have shown that the Yes movement is very much stronger than 2014. It is still growing and maturing. The fact that over 2500 have chipped into the appeal in such a small timeframe has made the loonie yoonies spend all night refreshing their computers and phones and getting more angrier.
It’s suggested that Jenny Marra could be sued for libel and defamation of character regarding her tweet about Alex Salmond’s crowdfund page.
Jenny is just a jealous, bitter angry wee wummin who must feel very frustrated knowing she would struggle to get a fraction of the support AS is getting from Scotland whereas she couldnt even get votes to win a constituency.
She reminds me of wee JAW (Joyless Annie Wells)
(” Now is the time”). Autocorrect!!!!
Clootie says:
30 August, 2018 at 8:36 am
Let me predict the next stage….
The charges will be dropped stating that the claimants withdrew on the basis of intolerable pressure from the nationalists.
This will stop any details emerging to be challenged but leave a nasty smear for future use.
My exact same thoughts it will never go away will be used at every election or Ref to bad mouth the SNP,I only hope that Alex will not let it go and prove the likes of DR Clegg wrong.
Go get them Mr Salmond may the force be with you.
Sky news should be publicly sued along with all these other disgusting media propaganda outlets. It’s now escalating to “sexual assault” Once Alex clears his name of these “allegations” he should sue the lot of them.
He will be back.
Just donated to his crowd funding.
Urge you all to if you have not already
@Scottish Steve says:
29 August, 2018 at 10:08 pm
Hey, Stu. I read the Guardian article on Salmond’s resignation and they called you a “hardline blogger” in it. Made me chuckle.
I guess being truthful and presenting facts is “hardline” to the Guardian these days.
Yes, and I note that while Stu allows comments on all his articles the Guardian is also wary about what it allows you to comment on – “comment is free …” except where you might show them up for misleading their readers. Facts not so sacred these days, eh Guardian?
CA how is the weather down there this morning at denison barracks in hermitage berks?
If the allegations are dropped, would Alex not have a very strong case to take the complainants to court for libel.
If the Civil Service had kept the procedure private (as it should have) then the argument would have been the complainers need the benefit of the doubt to allow due procedure to take place. But since the matter was leaked into the public domain, then one way or another the accused must be allowed to have the matter fully investigated.
Just a thought.
Spot on Old Pete. When Alex clears his name he should go after the slanderous cabal. That’s the only way to demolish the “no smoke without fire” smears that will follow him for the rest of his life.
And we’ll be behind him all of the way. Rest assured of that.
In 1890, Irish Home Rule seemed assured. Then the Unionists dragged the name of Charles Stewart Parnell through the papers via a sexual scandal. His party split, and Home Rule was tossed into the long grass. We are still living with the consequences, 130 years later!
Today’s Unionists are trying a similar tactic. Let history NOT repeat itself.
With you, Alex, all the way.
“Scott says:
30 August, 2018 at 9:15 am
Clootie says:
30 August, 2018 at 8:36 am
Let me predict the next stage….
The charges will be dropped stating that the claimants withdrew on the basis of intolerable pressure from the nationalists.
This will stop any details emerging to be challenged but leave a nasty smear for future use.
My exact same thoughts it will never go away will be used at every election or Ref to bad mouth the SNP,I only hope that Alex will not let it go and prove the likes of DR Clegg wrong.
Go get them Mr Salmond may the force be with you.”
Is Alex’s legal action not to question the process, not the allegations? If so, it needs to proceed even if the allegations are withdrawn.
I’ve never been one to join any kind of formal political organization, preferring if you like, to stand at the side and observe developments, but this has finally tipped the scale. I have always voted SNP, all my life, but the goal has always been independence.
Alex it must be hard to leave the party that you have loved and nurtured from nothing to what it is today. We owe you a debt more than we can ever calculate, so for that I’ll join the throng of new SNP members who will swell the ranks to try and fill the huge gap you have left behind.
But I know you’ll not be long in coming back 🙂
Independence first, last and always, the dream will never die.
Sad times.
This Alex Salmond saga is effectively the British State versus Scotland.
There will be no low that the Yoon State and media will not sink to in their determination to keep Scotland trapped in a damaging and corrupt union.
Old Pete says:
A good end to all this will be Alex’s name completely cleared.
And even better end will be Alex’s name completely cleared and a raft of defamation cases against all those who defamed his good name.
@ Daisy Walker,
Yep, accusations such as this carry enormous importance. They do not just damage your job or career. They damage your whole life,both public and private. Therefor any accused must have the same rights as the accuser. Alex was denied those rights and that is the issue.
You cannot defend yourself in ignorance of the most pertinent facts. It is an affront to natural justice. Should we proceed down that route then we are all susceptible to the same treatment at any time of their choosing.
Defend the women’s anonymity by all means,but do not deny the same to Alex, which has clearly happened in this case.
Case files like these carry enormous weight and are therefore very confidential and for authorised eyes only. Someone has given that to the media, and you have to ask why sensitive files ended up in the public domain.
Someone was not protecting this info they way it should have been guarded. That is the real issue here.
Petra says:
Ah yes, and he will have a big choice of targets. So many he could make another career from suing them all.
The claimants are not named so the charges can’t be dropped due to pressure. Though it could be a tactic to keep it unresolved so trying to damage, but it would also be defamatory to make accusations against Alex.
After I read of Alex’s resignation, I was so upset, I posted briefly on this post, and shut down my device to watch Netflix, just SO upset.
Didn’t know of crowdfunder, so am proud of Scotland smashing this overnight.
See the snidey comments on here? Away and fuck yourself.
This giant of a man has done more for this country than anyone in our lifetime.
He has contributed THOUSANDS to charities throughout his public life, putting his legitimate wages straight back to good causes.
I REALLY burn with hope that he will sue every last arsehole.
You know Civil Service employees may not have leaked the data at all. It could have been a complainant or someone she has confided in.
Mr Clegg will know, as I doubt he’d publish anything he received anonymously. Well he wouldn’t, would he?! He’s not that daft.
High time someone from Police Scotland paid him a visit to clarify the situation.
And high time the people who complained to Aamer Anwar, lawyer, about individuals from other political parties stepped up to the plate and reported such sexual harassment, including abuse, to the Permanent Secretary Leslie Evans. Be prepared for a catalogue of complaints Leslie about Unionist politicians. Aye right.
Honestly, the anti-independence people raging and asking why give money for a rich man’s legal costs: it is not about the money, it is a sign of support, respect and principle.
I am not in the least surprised that the target was reached within 2.5 hours. Scots are generally known for their abhorrence of unfair treatment and this man has been pilloried before he has even been charged with anything. If this does not go to court, he will carry this stigma for the rest of his life.
What a nightmare for a respected statesman. I feel sick to my stomach that there are so many bitter, twisted people in my beloved country.
I smell the very nasty smell of a Brit Nat ploy. Look at the facts, perfectly timed to take attention away from Brexit & INDY2, why wait 5 years to complain, the involvement of the infamous ‘VOW’ paper, the N.I connection need I go on? I just hope this all ends with one huge damages case against you know who and the ‘gobshite’ paper he works for.
Its an English firm
but it specialises in ‘judicial review’ cases.
The basics here.
link to archive.is
And an example of their work with a judge deciding the DWP had acted with unlawful discrimination.
link to leighday.co.uk (wouldn’t archive)
This feels like a tipping point in the drive to Independence.
He wins and goes all the way, taking down some big guns as he goes, or he fails and the Establishment will have a field day.
Charles Stewart Parnell activities did not damage the Irish quest for Independence. There was to be a Home Rule Bill introduced in Westminster two weeks after the start of the 1WW. It would have been Law by 1916. The Irish did not have the vote. The NI unionists used the 1WW as a cover to smuggle in weapons. Capt Crawford. Illegally smuggled past Port Glasgow. Irish nationalists fought in the 1WW. Although the Irish unionists would not fight in the same divisions.
The Nationalists retaliated by smuggling weapons in. Though not on the same scale. The Irish Easter rising 1916. Ireland illegally partitioned by Lloyd George. 1923. The death of Michael Collins. Universal Suffrage 1928. The unionists denied the Catholic the vote right up to the 1960’s in Belfast. Westminster conduct in Ireland is totally illegal. Appalling behaviour.
For those hoping for a civil war inside the SNP then I fear they are going to be very disappointed. At our local branch meeting on Monday night the mood was a fighting one. This looks and feels like a political attack, not the playing out of a grievance case. When you attack an organism its defences kick in and that is what Clegg, Marra, Grant and the rest have done. They could not contain their bile and have gone for political gain against the SNP and the wider Yes movement not justice for individuals. In truth all they are ever interested in is political gain. They are clowns but as we all know, clowns are not funny.
Auld Rock @ 10-01
Hear , hear!
Clegg has questions to answer, just a Unionist gobsh**e when all is said and done.
@Petra
“And high time the people who complained to Aamer Anwar, lawyer, about individuals from other political parties stepped up to the plate and reported such sexual harassment, including abuse, to the Permanent Secretary Leslie Evans.”
Good point, there is undoubtedly a lot of skeletons crammed into a good few wardrobes just waiting on someone opening the door.
A good many people may be wishing this would all just go away.
Parnell died in 1891 but the struggled continued. To this day. Demographics. Ireland could vote to reunite. NI do not obey UK Laws. They are a Law unto themselves. DUP misogynist, racists and bigots. Paisley was taking illegal payments, holidays and benefits. Not declared. A criminal. Along with the rest of them, being bribed to prop up May. Along with the Scottish Tories.
The Irish Republic is the fifth prosperous place in the world according to the IMF. Above Norway and UAE. It does not have Scotland’s resources.
Is the media deliberately misunderstanding this fund raiser – not to mention opposition party spokespersons – or are they all just thick?
Alex Salmond is defending all of you , mostly men, likely to be accused of sexual impropriety.
Justice is not served by a media feeding frenzy.
I expect the charges to be dropped and the blame dumped on the SNP so two smears for the price of one.
I hope Mr Salmond is the Kasparov of politicians!
Fundraiser well over £70k now, more folk joining the SNP, the folk at Westminster Centre will be getting into a wee frenzy.
Sometimes things just dont go to plan for the Regime:
The Vow scandal.
The Carmichael scandal.
The lord Foulkes scandal, doing things intentionally.
The disrespecting our MPs at WM scandal.
The Tayside NHS scandal.
The Alec Salmond scandal.
Not to forget the raging Brexit scandal.
There are many other scandals as folk on here know but I get dinner at seven tonight and cant type all day.
What is the result of the scandals produced by the incompetent WM Regime? More decent folk walking over to independence and thousands more members of the SNP.
With enemies like these why are we still a colony?
BBC painstakingly detailed article with only one new aspect as far as I can see:
Well Leslie, we’re all considering the public interest now.
link to bbc.co.uk
The British state is definitely ramping up the rhetoric.. Maybe their private polling is showing them losing and it’s gonna be win at all costs with them.. We are only going to get bigger and stronger.. I just rejoined the SNP..
I’m also wondering why allegations of harrassment from 5 years ago, without witnesses or corroborating evidence, could possibly have taken 8 months to investigate?
Also, it was reported earlier that Leslie Evans had prevented Alex from contacting civil servants. Surely he would have needed access to appointment diaries and events calendars to confirm where he was at any given date.
Anyone in the public eye could be accused in this way.
How is the Scottish guy on politics home ? Spouting the unionist propaganda, skewed views towing the BBC line. Never any fair and balanced views on UK media, they know nothing and care nothing for Scotland or the Scottish people.
We need out of the stinking union as soon as possible, hopefully Nicola will have the courage to start the ball rolling before we leave the EU. Surely the Scottish people will vote for themselves and their country nothing else will do, we need Independence and we need it now.
With regards Evans, she administers the complaint process and has to play by the book. I would be extremely surprised if she was the source of the leak to the Record, who claim to have seen documents. Having dealt with grievances I can say that sometimes the complaints are genuine and upheld and sometimes they are eventually found to be false and not upheld. I hope this one falls into the latter category. However, once dealt with there is the matter of the leak and who is responsible. This has all the hallmarks of a political attack and not a very subtle one at that. Rather than MI5 I would be more inclined to look at the ranks of the opposition benches. Unfortunately they are all as cack handed as each other so it could be any one of them.
I notice dear old Severein and wee Libby’s character assassination/smear/SNP Bad piece on Wee Eck resigning his SNP membership has now been up on the Guardian website for some 14-hours, but, as yet, no btl comments are being allowed.
I wonder why.
Dorothy Devine says:
30 August, 2018 at 10:29 am
Is the media deliberately misunderstanding this fund raiser – not to mention opposition party spokespersons – or are they all just thick?
Well, yes Dorothy – thick AND malevolent, an awful combination at any time, Political and journalistic pygmies, each and every one.
I can’t watch the news or read any more reports – my already high blood pressure cannot stand the utter cant and hypocrisy being spouted.
BBC – have you forgotten already about your role in protecting Jimmy Savile for years on end, despite knowing about his serial criminal sexual offending. Not to mention numerous other BBC employees who were well known serial sex offenders – e.g. Dave Lee Travis, Rolf Harris – as well.
Scottish Labour talking about politics being in the “gutter” – well, if anyone knows about politics being in the gutter, it’s them. Have they forgotten about John Stonehouse, Robert Maxwell who stole the pensions of thousands of working people, as well as those convicted criminals George Foulkes and Mike Watson, “elevated” by Labour to the House of Lords after their criminality was established fact? Have they forgotten about the numerous Labour MPs sent to prison for stealing taxpayers’ money in the guise of “expenses”? Have they forgotten about the war criminals Blair, Brown and Straw? As well as loads of councillors and activists who have been troughing at public expense for decades.
Gie’s peace, the lot of you!
Even if, as some are suggesting, the claiments withdraw their claims, the original claim still stands as defamation with the allied damage to his reputation.
IMHO Alex would as a private person have every right to continue to establish the identities of who leaked the information in the first place and who defamed him in the follow-up – WM’s arm of SG, Clegg/Reckord, Marra etc.
Then he should sue the main perpetrators for substantial sums of money and big, fat apologies.
Well done contributors! One knows support for Alec / Nicola / SNP is right when this level and rapidity of response comes after such malicious accusations.
Now – start to look out for the early signs of an exit strategy. Which yoons will line up the two hapless ‘victims’ for outing? Which yoon leaders will start to ask for moderation? Which MSM platforms will cease reportorial coverage of (start hiding) this story?
I hope he sues Sky, the Scottish Daily Express – “Sex Attack” today’s headline – not to mention the wee prick Strathclyde Briton on twitter who called him a rapist. I trust he is aware of the one.
The MSM, despite their claims, are going to be sorely disappointed, this will not douse the flame of independence. They attempted to turn this event into a demonisation of the SNP and think that they are on the verge of killing the desire for independence.
How do we know this myopic focus of the MSM, simply because no other party has been put under the microscope so intently by them, not even the Conservatives running the UK. There are numerous parties in Scotland that have questions to answer, the MSM has shown little interest in investigating any of their issues.
The objective was pretty much delivered by a Daily Record representative on Newsnight claiming he had split the SNP, he is deluded. Followed up by Newsnight claiming Salmond had been forced to resign.
We will now all be marred with the claim of conspiracy theorists, I would say just look at the evidence. There is not one neutral commentary on this in the main MSM outlets, he is guilty, the SNP are guilty, that is the message.
THE MSM will now try to move this on, they need to keep the focus on the SNP. The actual case is now secondary to any reporting,
The leak. Start with Daily Record and work back. Should be a police matter.
Socrates
Martin Kettles piece likewise has no btl comments. It really is a craven piece of the “UK State would never do anything bad” load of absolute pish. An insult to the women conned by deep cover police officers in the Green Movement. That said I have been repulsed by Kettle ever since he wrote a toadying article about Cameron first stay at Chequers as PM and how much more of an English gentleman he was than the evil Baron Von Gordon Brown.
The more they write this drivel the more suspicious I become.
@Sharny Dubs (9.50) –
Hear hear, and welcome aboard!
😉
This is a disgrace on all of Scotland.
Instead of building statues to Donald Dewar over Holyrood, only for the grubby truth to emerge later on, Alex Salmond deserves all due respect as a formidable guardian of Scotland’s interests and the courageous father of our soon-to-be-reborn Nation.
In any decent society, anybody with this man’s integrity would rightly be revered and virtually untouchable.
I don’t believe for a nano-second that Alex is guilty of ANY indiscretion whatsoever, and it is an absolute disgrace that these allegations have been made public and allowed to besmirch the reputation of Scotland’s formost international statesman, when the substance and politically motivation behind these allegations seems highly suspect to say the least.
We should not mix up the term “due process” with “any process” when dredging up an excuse to be spineless do-nothings, and we should tear down any process which pronounces guilt before the accused has any opportunity to defend themselves and refute the allegations. As a nation, we aren’t half sloppy with our “justice”.
Enjoy your “coup” you BritNat gutter dwelling Scumbags. Here was me worried you might be a wee bit upset by Scotland reasserting it’s Independent Constitutional Sovereignty. Bring it on. BRING IT ON! Bring it on Scotland, let’s step forward into Europe and never look back.
Je suis Alex Salmond.
Any update from the SNP re sudden increase in membership by the way?
The resounding thwack of a lawyers letter on the lino behind Jenny Marra’s door would be well deserved. You might think that a clown who is paid handsomely by the Scottish people for not winning elections would just keep her head down & her trap tight shut!
@ Capella at 10:54am …… “without witnesses or corroborating evidence…”
We only know of one (very week, imo) case so far Capella and even that could have been distorted by Mr Clegg. As to the other? Who knows? I’m puzzled as to why no details have been released by Mr Clegg. Have they managed to find another ? to “corroborate”?
Haste ye back Alex =)
They’ll never learn that we’re not going away.
They can write as much garbage as they like about us. Independence is a grassroots movement that can’t be stopped. The tipping point has been reached and anyone with a brain (that’s a lot of us btw) knows how this ends.
With or without Alex, and I hope it’s with, we will win.
A better Scotland is coming
Popped on site last night and noticed the crowdraiser thingy when only a few comments on – skipped over on an early link and made my donation (less than 2k at the time) – been busy since.
Imagine my delight when I clicked on the link again at 11:30 today, I couldn’t stop laughing – made my Ecking day that has!
Today, is a good day.
@ Capella
My thoughts too, on 8 months to investigate these claims. Anyone with a modicum of involvement in these things, knows an investigative enquiry should be thorough and intensive to move quickly, and there are a lot of good legal reasons for that, should it go the full road.
You don’t have people with their lives on hold for 8 months, with further to go thereafter.
Another day of screeching shit throwing from msm.
@Colin Alexander says: 30 August, 2018 at 8:35 am:
” … So, now that Alex Salmond is critical of the Scottish Govt and actually suing them, is he now a unionist etc?”
Ach! Colin, Yer a wee puckle blate wi yer, (expected), SNP BAAAD! dirge the day.
If you seriously imagine that anyone in the SNP or SNP/SG is being sued by the former FM then you sure as hell are banging your head against a drystane dyke.
Everyone, it seems, long ago has realised that Holyrood, (as viewed by unionists such as you), is (i’ll spell it out for you:-
a D-E-V-O-L-V-E-D part of the de facto parliament of the country of England, (A parliament of England does not in fact legally exist. That Colin is what the term, “de facto”, means.
@Footsoldier says:
30 August, 2018 at 11:13 am
The leak. Start with Daily Record and work back. Should be a police matter.
If the leak was done by one of the complainants then it could be straight forward case of Libel.
If the leak came from one complainant, who revealed details of the second complainant – without permission, then libel trial+ breach of data protection.
If the leak came from the Civil Service/Scottish Government – then its a clear breach of Data Protection.
Which is Criminal (not civil) Legislation. So yes, it is potentially a Police matter. In order for the Police to ascertain details from the newspaper concerned, they will need a Warrant – newspapers and their sources are (quite rightly in most cases) extremely well protected by law. But there would be nothing to stop them investigating at the Civil Service/SG end also.
It is possible the leak was carried out with a view to trying to ‘shake the tree’ a bit and see if other complainers might come forward to strengthen the case a bit. Doesn’t seem to be working out that way for them.
Really very serious for all involved.
Donated & will donate more when the need calls ( short week ) Now that Alex has unsheathed his sword I hope he cuts a wide swathe & that includes the Britnat Media .
@Highland Wifie (11.37) –
Hear hear!
😉
ronnie anderson says:
30 August, 2018 at 12:23 pm
Donated & will donate more when the need calls ( short week ) Now that Alex has unsheathed his sword I hope he cuts a wide swathe & that includes the Britnat Media .
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And britnat politicians and celebrities, who have either committed libel or slander.
All the British Nationalist rags like the Record, the Scotsman ( could a name ever be more inaccurate) Herald, Express. Mail etc etc have sales that are tanking. They are being helped by the BBC paying the wages of reporters who work for them. Taxpayers money being used to prop up private businesses to pump out anti Scottish propaganda. Disgusting corrupt union. Collusion all the time between British Nationalists politicians, the broadcasters and the propaganda newspapers. To that we can add the Civil service. I repeat disgusting corrupt union.
We are living in the very very dirty fag end of the Union. Just like the British Empire the union will soon be consigned to the history books.
All these NIreland people in Scotland can take their bigoted sectarian views down to England and close the door behind them. Take all the Britnats in the Tory party with you as well like Fraser. Sick of these people infecting Scotland with the sectarian virus.
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HandandShrimp says:
30 August, 2018 at 11:15 am
Socrates
It really is a craven piece of the “UK State would never do anything bad” load of absolute pish. An insult to the women conned by deep cover police officers in the Green Movement.
Far worse was the Kincora Boys Home scandal. Secret services knew the abuse was going on but let it go on because it gave them good blackmail material on a number of politicians who were taking advantage of the boys. Colin Wallace (ex Intelligence officer) was framed for a killing because he tried to get it stopped.
link to irishtimes.com
Unbelievable tactics by the State for all to see now. Go for it Alex!
Well call me strange but for finally taking my place as an SNP member I wanted to scroll back and use the first link I came to on this thread.
And the winner is…..
@ Proud Cybernat
Who also happens to be signing up! Here’s to us an aw that’s like us, dumb few, an most are deed.
For anyone to whom †his applies…
link to unnecessaryquotes.com