Ahhh the never ending nostalgia of the English for the 2nd world war…. not entirely surprising ….. it’s perhaps the only war they fought in with morality on their side…
Though Bomber Harris did put that in doubt to be honest…..
@ Rev – Ok I did my homework. Spencer Moulton – Balls!Ā I mean squash, tennis and lacrosse. No more bouncy bouncy in train sleeper compartments due to rubber springs made by the firm. Hum ho !
@TMITJ.
There wasn’t much about Scotland on the show. It was just near the end, when they were discussing leader debates in general. AM asked Cameron about debating with AS, and Camerons face went slightly pink. He muttered something about AS wanting to turn it into a Scotland v England, SNP v Tory thing, so he wasn’t falling into AS’s trap. He knew AS was a wily old fox, and he, Cameron, saw the trap. Bollocks.
@Juteman
Thanks for that. I used to record the Marr show but much like the Six o’clock “National” news on the BBC I now find it almost totally irrelevant. Like you say “Bollocks!”
I’ve stopped watching Andrew Marr too.Ā Instead I listen to Ken McDonald’s radio programme on Radio Scotland – it’s more relevant to Scotland.
Ā
On another topic though, something has been niggling away at me over the weekend.Ā You know that awful piece of footage of the Labour candidate in the Dunfermline by-election – the one whee Bernard Ponsonby clearly referred to Bill Walker as an SNP MSP, despite the fact he was an independent MSP and was expelled from the SNP – well, I originally just put it down to a mistake, but then when I thought about it, I remembered that Bernard Ponsonby is a Lib Dem man and stood for election for them.Ā Given that the Lib Dems are also trying to win in the Dunfermline by-election, was there any chance that Bernard’s “mistake” was a bit too convenient?
O/T (?)
Ā
Rev : Since you made your point about lack of YES gear on display (agree BTW).
Yesterday at Kelvinbridge made it my job to look out for info.
Noted:
3 cars in daughters carpark with YES Ā stickers + one SNP out of 15 (No BT)
2 cars YES stickers on walk to shops for milk /papers +Ā 3 flats with YES signs + 1 YES CND; No BT sightings.Ā
Also saw D Bateman out with family (Dont know if that counts)
So on one unscientific jaunt out for 20 mins in Glasgow’s West End some signs of support are about. (when you look for them)
Ā
Also re lack of Yes I heard that a pub in Shawlands, Glasgow has advertised a debate on Independence this Wednesday. Will post name of pub when I check where it is.
@liz
It’s in the GladCafe on Wednesday, the panel is made up of YES supporters,Ā and theĀ idea is to attract No’s and Don’t Knows to comeĀ along and ask what they want to ask.Ā
@liz
Most welcome, anyway was trying to download poster to post, not happening. Stuart Braithwaite of Mogwai is chairing, debate starts at 8, though limited number as it’s in the back room, only holds around 70.
It seems organised by the Radical Independence Campaign
“Not sure which way you’re voting in next year’s independence referendum? Bored of the same old debate? Not sure what’s true and what’s not in the media?”
Ā
Panellists include
– Mary Lockhart Scottish Co-operative Party
– Gordon MacIntyre Business for Scotland
– Lynda Williamson Newsnet Scotland
– Janey Godley Comedian, Author, Playwright
– Karine Polwart Award winning somg-writer
– Stuart Braithwaite – From ‘Mogwai’ as Chairman
Ā
The Glad Cafe 1006a Pollokshaws Road
Wednesday Oct 2nd 7pm
Entry by suggested donation (5/3 pounds)
Ā
It says that it will be a lively and humorous debate between the panel and audience
It seems organised by the Radical Independence Campaign
āNot sure which way youāre voting in next yearās independence referendum? Bored of the same old debate? Not sure whatās true and whatās not in the media?ā
Ā
Panellists include
– Mary Lockhart Scottish Co-operative Party
– Gordon MacIntyre Business for Scotland
– Lynda Williamson Newsnet Scotland
– Janey Godley Comedian, Author, Playwright
– Karine Polwart Award winning somg-writer
– Stuart Braithwaite ā From āMogwaiā as Chairman
Ā
The Glad Cafe 1006a Pollokshaws Road
Wednesday Oct 2nd 7pm
Entry by suggested donation (5/3 pounds)
Ā
It says that it will be a lively and humorous debate between the panel and audience
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Roffle!
“Give Scotland the Wings she wants – she’ll give Westminster the bird”.
The latter more likely as in the modern context! š
That jogs my memory of Post War Credits.
Ā
Sunday Herald front page link to twitpic.com
A DefenceĀ article in the paper disagreeing with Westminster.
Time to move from Bath to Trowbridge
Ā
Ā
Wiltshire seems to appreciate you and the name Trowbridge suits the internet.
Ā
For a moment there I thought it was another crowdfunding. š
Jings, Ā posters weren’t even made with letraset in these days….
Ahhh the never ending nostalgia of the English for the 2nd world war…. not entirely surprising ….. it’s perhaps the only war they fought in with morality on their side…
Though Bomber Harris did put that in doubt to be honest…..
Nothing worth posting?
@ Rev – Ok I did my homework. Spencer Moulton – Balls!Ā I mean squash, tennis and lacrosse. No more bouncy bouncy in train sleeper compartments due to rubber springs made by the firm. Hum ho !
Ruth Davidson says.archive.is/5jyQJ
Did Cameron just have a hot flush when asked about debating with AS? š
on the A Marr show.
@Juteman
Good! However I have just got up and missed that š Why do they have these things on so early?
It looks like its going to be a busy Scotland oriented conference this week
I just checked the A. Marr show is “coming soon” on the i player.
@Archie [not Erchie]
Here was me wondering if they would ban the word “Scotland” from their conference. š
@TMITJ.
There wasn’t much about Scotland on the show. It was just near the end, when they were discussing leader debates in general. AM asked Cameron about debating with AS, and Camerons face went slightly pink. He muttered something about AS wanting to turn it into a Scotland v England, SNP v Tory thing, so he wasn’t falling into AS’s trap. He knew AS was a wily old fox, and he, Cameron, saw the trap. Bollocks.
@Juteman
Thanks for that. I used to record the Marr show but much like the Six o’clock “National” news on the BBC I now find it almost totally irrelevant. Like you say “Bollocks!”
I’m sure I heard Cameron say ‘this Scotland thing’.
Ā
I’ll gae ye ‘thing’!
I’ve stopped watching Andrew Marr too.Ā Instead I listen to Ken McDonald’s radio programme on Radio Scotland – it’s more relevant to Scotland.
Ā
On another topic though, something has been niggling away at me over the weekend.Ā You know that awful piece of footage of the Labour candidate in the Dunfermline by-election – the one whee Bernard Ponsonby clearly referred to Bill Walker as an SNP MSP, despite the fact he was an independent MSP and was expelled from the SNP – well, I originally just put it down to a mistake, but then when I thought about it, I remembered that Bernard Ponsonby is a Lib Dem man and stood for election for them.Ā Given that the Lib Dems are also trying to win in the Dunfermline by-election, was there any chance that Bernard’s “mistake” was a bit too convenient?
Jeannie,
Ā
I heard Ken refer to Bella Caledonia and National Collective.
Ā
Did ‘Wings’ get a mention?
Don’t think so – not this week, at least I didn’t hear it.Ā Has mentioned it before, though.
O/T (?)
Ā
Rev : Since you made your point about lack of YES gear on display (agree BTW).
Yesterday at Kelvinbridge made it my job to look out for info.
Noted:
3 cars in daughters carpark with YES Ā stickers + one SNP out of 15 (No BT)
2 cars YES stickers on walk to shops for milk /papers +Ā 3 flats with YES signs + 1 YES CND; No BT sightings.Ā
Also saw D Bateman out with family (Dont know if that counts)
So on one unscientific jaunt out for 20 mins in Glasgow’s West End some signs of support are about. (when you look for them)
Ā
@Ronnie,
No but then I imagineĀ he’s looking at the top stories which have to be sort of newsy to get a mention I’d think.
Ā
Also re lack of Yes I heard that a pub in Shawlands, Glasgow has advertised a debate on Independence this Wednesday. Will post name of pub when I check where it is.
@liz
It’s in the GladCafe on Wednesday, the panel is made up of YES supporters,Ā and theĀ idea is to attract No’s and Don’t Knows to comeĀ along and ask what they want to ask.Ā
Hi Albalha Thanks for that.Ā
@liz
Most welcome, anyway was trying to download poster to post, not happening. Stuart Braithwaite of Mogwai is chairing, debate starts at 8, though limited number as it’s in the back room, only holds around 70.
It seems organised by the Radical Independence Campaign
“Not sure which way you’re voting in next year’s independence referendum? Bored of the same old debate? Not sure what’s true and what’s not in the media?”
Ā
Panellists include
– Mary Lockhart Scottish Co-operative Party
– Gordon MacIntyre Business for Scotland
– Lynda Williamson Newsnet Scotland
– Janey Godley Comedian, Author, Playwright
– Karine Polwart Award winning somg-writer
– Stuart Braithwaite – From ‘Mogwai’ as Chairman
Ā
The Glad Cafe 1006a Pollokshaws Road
Wednesday Oct 2nd 7pm
Entry by suggested donation (5/3 pounds)
Ā
It says that it will be a lively and humorous debate between the panel and audience
It seems organised by the Radical Independence Campaign
āNot sure which way youāre voting in next yearās independence referendum? Bored of the same old debate? Not sure whatās true and whatās not in the media?ā
Ā
Panellists include
– Mary Lockhart Scottish Co-operative Party
– Gordon MacIntyre Business for Scotland
– Lynda Williamson Newsnet Scotland
– Janey Godley Comedian, Author, Playwright
– Karine Polwart Award winning somg-writer
– Stuart Braithwaite ā From āMogwaiā as Chairman
Ā
The Glad Cafe 1006a Pollokshaws Road
Wednesday Oct 2nd 7pm
Entry by suggested donation (5/3 pounds)
Ā
It says that it will be a lively and humorous debate between the panel and audience