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Running total (updated daily): £28,920 of £29,796 (97.1%).
Donations in last 24 hours: £886.

As we write these words, there are under 24 hours of our fundraising campaign to go. It has already, frankly, succeeded beyond our wildest hopes, and our gratitude is boundless. But for anyone still swithering over whether it’s worth throwing a quid into the pot or not, we thought we’d spend the final day reminding you of what your money is buying, and will continue to buy for the next year.

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Aucheorn

Made an addition to the total. 
May the search for truth continue.

panda paws

Congrats RevStu I hope you make it to 100%. For those like me unable to make a financial donation, we can do our bit by telling people about the site and posting links in twitter, FB, other sites etc.

Morag

[Smirk]  If my sums are right, I think I just putted the ball over the line.

Gizzit

Well done – congratulations Rev.

Daisy

Bunged you a few more sheckles. Think I will give cafépress a good clicking later this week. Enjoying passing he website across to friends who NEED educating of the facts. Loving the disbelief that they’ve been HAD since birth…I’m also causing a fair few ripples at the office – the subject that should not be discussed…why?!
Oh well 2014 is just around the corner, company reorg will be on the cards.
Keeping the faith.& enjoying the momentum.
 
Daisy

Thomas Widmann

Just wondering — will the money people have paid WoS outwith Indiegogo count towards the £29,796 goal when they decide whether to charge you 4% or 9%?

uilleam_beag

@ Morag
[Smirk]  If my sums are right, I think I just putted the ball over the line.
If I read that right, did you just pop 876-plus virtually-crisp digital notes into the cyber coffee tin? If you did, kudos!

Morag

No, I didn’t.  Your sums are off.

Also, you can see what has been contributed in the past few hours by visiting the Indiegogo page.

uilleam_beag

Haha. I thought it seemed a bit over-dramatic – not so much putting the ball over the line as firing it clear through the back of the net! You get the kudos anyhow, regardless how monstrous/middling the contribution  😉
Rev Stu, congratulations on an outstanding fundraising campaign. I just fired you another wee bit; I actually got Indiegogo to work this time.

FreddieThreepwood

Sorry @ Morag and others – I’m clearly looking at another site … I know the Rev is getting donations other than through indiewhatsit but the total is still showing as thousands of pounds short. Even up at the top of this page it says we’re still a few hundred quid short.
Where are you lot reading all this ‘over the line’ info? 

MajorBloodnok

Another contribution from me.  If Morag put the ball through the back of the net then that’s me running about with my arms out and my jersey pulled up over my face (beats working).

Cauld tattie

Congratulations Stu, and well done to all the troops. 😀

MajorBloodnok

@cauld tattie
 
By the way, received my Cybernat mug last week.  Very pleased with it and I’m drinking some tea from it as I type.  And it even has my name on it.  Cheers MB

Gizzit

@Freddie Threepwood – I think that there is a smidgeon over £25,000 at indigogo, and I believe I saw that there was £5,000+ in “elsewhere” donations.  Presumably RevStu will funnel that other cash into indigogo or at least enough of it to bring the site’s take down to 4%.
 
 

Restlessnative

link to newsnetscotland.com
Well worth a read folks,apologies if posted before.

Morag

Freddie said:
Sorry @ Morag and others – I’m clearly looking at another site … I know the Rev is getting donations other than through indiewhatsit but the total is still showing as thousands of pounds short. Even up at the top of this page it says we’re still a few hundred quid short.

Where are you lot reading all this ‘over the line’ info?
 
The sums are in the later comments on the “final countdown” post.  RevStu has just over £5,000 in off-system donations from people who couldn’t get Indiegogo to play nice.  No point in putting these through Indiegogo unless necessary, as there will have been some PayPal or other commission on these anyway, but worth it to get the Indiegogo total past the goal and get their commission down from 9% to 4%.  I gather Rev Stu is going to put however much of that is required into the Indiegogo total just before the deadline to make sure the commission payments are minimised.

Knowing how much was there in off-system donations, it was easy to see when the Indiegogo total plus the off-system figure was approaching the overall total needed.  I noticed the shortfall was less than what I intended to contribute anyway, about quarter to ten this morning, so rather than wait till evening I just did it.

Laura

Indigogo still won’t accept my postcode, so I’ve had to go through your ‘donate’ button again

Cauld tattie

@Majorbloodknock
Thanks to you and all those who bought the Cybernat Invasion mugs raised a wee bit money for the appeal.
(you never know they might become a collectors item in a few years 😉

Horacesaysyes

I’ve only recently discovered this site, and indeed only very recently decided to try and take a more active role in helping out the Yes campaign, but assuming I have been able to navigate Indigogo correctly my donation should be on its way now.

Jeannie

@Horacesaysyes
 
And a warm welcome to you, Horace 🙂

FreddieThreepwood

Thanks Morag. Good grief – people still commenting on posts several days old! I suppose I still have an old newspaper attitude to these things – yesterday’s news is for wrapping chips, no matter how interesting it was.
Online news – new trick.
Freddie – old dog.

ronald alexander mcdonald

Many congrats  Stu.
Did anyone notice the tweet from Michael Meacher Labour MP, SLAB should follow the SNP no evictions  bedroom tax. Much the same time as Jackie Baillie tweeting more crap criticising the SNP over it. Christ, you couldn’t make it up!
As someone here said tory/Labour aren’t the opposition, it’s the MSM.
 
 

MajorBloodnok

Rev – looking at the list of articles you are posting…. did you ever think of getting these published as a collecetion of essays in a book?  I’ve got “Unstated: Writers on Scottish Independence” published by Word Power Books in Edinburgh (based near the Pear Tree Pub), and your essays could easily stand up well against most of them.

muttley79

@ronald
 
Michael Meacher is a good man.  If I was living down south I would want to be represented by someone like him.

Tris

Great news that the amount has been raised. In such a short time too.
 
Congratulations Rev Stu and thanks to all fellow contributors for making this happen.
 
 

lumilumi

Oh, the Alex Salmond – dictator bingo is one of my favourites! I’ve actually used it with friends! 😀
 
Actually the dictator bingo was the thing that first brought me to WoS, following a link from another pro-indy site.
 
I discovered a site that’s informed but also fun. Hmm. Maybe I’ll donate a bit more, in the name of one of the dictators… 😉

ronald alexander mcdonald

muttley 79
Agree. He’s exposed the hypocracy of SLAB.

MajorBloodnok

Not just a tweet, Michael Meacher blogged an article about it as well:
link to michaelmeacher.info
 
(Perhaps the tweet links to this, in which case apologies for repeating).

Jeannie

Interesting info on Scot goes Pop –
You Gov Poll commissioned by SNP:  majority of Scots in favour of all Scottish Government having control of all tax and spending decisions including oil and gas, all welfare and pensions and all representation of Scottish interests.

Albalha

Came across this YES campaign article from August last year, interesting to me anyway as I hadn’t seen it before.
How many Scots would vote to join the Union if Scotland was still independent?
link to yesscotland.net
 
 

lumilumi

OK, I chickened out :-(, I didn’t make a donation in the name of one of the dictators on the Alex Salmond – dictator bingo because all of them seemed… well, so horrible, power-crazed and far removed from Alex Salmond.
 
I threw a tenner in the name of Urho Kaleva Kekkonen (UKK), the President of Finland 1956-1982. link to en.wikipedia.org
 
The clue is in the years. This guy was President for fucking 26 years! From when my father was a teenager to when I was a teenager! The last two terms were a bit dodgy, nearly all parties supporting him, in a democracy where regularly 6-10 parties are represented in Parliament and the government is usually a coalition of 3-5 parties. UKK’s first two terms were OK, he skillfully negotiated our neutral way between NATO and Warsaw Pact countries, but he bacame increasingly power-crazed in domestic politics and consolidated a dogma in foreign politics. The West-Germans started calling it “Finlandisierung” (not in a nice way). I’m of a generation that as a kid thought the word President was synonymous with Kekkonen. I was a teenager when he finallly resigned (ill healt, he was 82) and we elected a new president, what a breath of fresh air!
 
Since Kekkonen, the Finnish constitution has been changed. Presidents are chosen directly by people (instead of an electoral college, as is still done in the US) and presidential terms are limited to two. The President’s powers have also been curtailed, so now our President is pretty much a figurehead of state with similar powers to constitutional monarchs. The de facto head of state is the Prime Minister, usually the leader of the largest party in Parliament.
 
Urho Kekkonen is still a bit of a legendary figure in Finland, though. He was a very colourful and controversial figure in his time. Well known for his sporting achievemets (he was a national champion in high jump before entering politics, and a keen cross-country skier all his life – took ministers skiing to tire them out before negotiations amids domestic political squabbles… That was when the President still had quite a lot of power in domestic politics.) Nowadays the young, global i-generation view him almost as a fairytale figure, like Che Guevara. T-shirs and posters… UKK lends himself to that, he had a distinctive look with a bald head and big glasses 😀

Doganon

Done my bung – enhanced thanks to the generosity of friends and relatives – here’s to Wings Over Scotland… Back to lurk mode.

callum

I hope that others will pop another donation through before the deadline in the early hours of Tuesday morning – just to make it very clear that a grass roots journalism campaign can really work – it’s a powerful statement.

if there’s a YES vote, then this blog (and NNS, BC etc) will have played a massive part in that.

Jeannie

@lumilumi
You said Kekkonen was President till he was 82, was known for his sporting achievements and became increasingly power-crazed.  No wonder Menzies Campbell still thinks he’s in with a chance!

lumilumi

@Jeannie
😀 😀
 
Are you advocating Ming as President of the Republic of Scotland? 😀

Jeannie

@lumilumi
Are you advocating Ming as President of the Republic of Scotland?
 
God, no, President of Pluto would still be too near for me.
 
 

Matt

lumilumi,

UKK OK?

lumilumi

@Matt
😀
How do you pronounce that? You-cockK-ock? [confused smiley here]
 
Anyway, in Finnish, it’s pronounced oo-kaw-kaw. His nickname was Urkki, which also happened to be a name of a mag on the top shelves.

Jeannie

@lumilumi

Anyway, in Finnish, it’s pronounced oo-kaw-kaw. His nickname was Urkki, which also happened to be a name of a mag on the top shelves.
 
There’s a joke there somewhere.
 
 
 

Jeannie

Tom Bradby, reporting on ITV News, on a piece to do with hammering immigrants, stated that David Cameron wanted to end the “something for nothing culture”.  It would be great if someone were able to put together clips of Cameron and Johann Lamont, saying this phrase turn-about.

Albalha

@jeannie
 
Yes R4 6pm News quoted it as well, had the same thought as you a loop of Lamont/Cameron/Lamont/Cameron set to a hip hop/rap beat perhaps.

uilleam_beag

@Doganon
I think that as a “hero” you’re officially entitled to do more than just lurk.
 
Come on in and join the banter!

Chic McGregor

Oops, didn’t think to look in here.  Well done all concerned.
 
Re my latest donation not getting through on indiegogo on which I pm’d to you Stuart, from what folk are saying here it will make more sense to pay it through the general donate button anyway.  Hope it will still count towards my perk total.
 

kininvie

There’s a final wee contribution gone in…It would be good to see the Indy-go-go total reached without Stuart having to use the ‘extra’.

Morag

Including the off-system donations Stu intimated yesterday, the overall total isn’t far off £32,000.  Considering there have been some more off-system donations today, I reckon it’s there already.

Jeannie

@albalha
 
I agree, it would be very watchable.  Right, we’ve had the idea – is there anybody out there who knows how to do it?

Albalha

@jeannie
 
I reckon the person who put together the Top 10 Unionist Myths, someone Foster I think? Maybe someone here knows, I reckon it could go moderately viral. 

WallaceBruce

Donated a fiver at the start of the campaign and hoped it would succeed.  Another fiver just to make sure it gets over the line.  Gladdens the heart to see a lot of people getting together make something worthwhile work!

Marcia

Brother has sent in another £23 on my behalf.

Jeannie

@albalha
 
It would definitely go viral if they tried to ban it on copyright grounds 🙂

Albalha

@jeannie
Indeed, though clear cut speech audio, they’ve no chance of copyright bollocks claims.

Jeannie

@albalha
 
In fact, we should make sure that we DO breach copyright in it to make sure they try to have it banned, thus guaranteeing its success.

douglas clark

Just to say, I love the lot of you! I have been a bit strapped for cash since the New Year, but what you have done is an amazing feat.
(Bloody Lottery didn’t come up and my trivial donation is drowned in a sea of generosity.)
 
I really do think that this is the best pro-independence site around. Thank you for ensuring it will be here up and until 18th September 2014 and for a good while after that!

Dave Smith

Another tenner in the pot, Stu. Hope you reach target!

CameronB

@ Re. Stuart Campbell
You are going to tell us when you reach the target? 🙂

lumilumi

Hey, the last I looked, the indiegogo total was £26,787, and counting… But AFAIK, Rev’s got around £5,000 non-indiegogo donations (though I’m sure he’s spent some of it, on this shiny new server etc.), so right before the deadline he can make the difference between 4% or 9% commission!
 
Well done, all of you!
WE DID IT!

lumilumi

Just had another look at the indiegogo site, it’s now up to £26,807 + un-indiegogo donations to the tune of £5,000! So we’re home and dry!
 
It was nice to see that there were ever more donators at the indiegogo site. £1 or £2 or £6, whatever. Every little bit helps. We can all get a nice, warm feeling about it. WE made it happen. We’ll have WoS, new and improved, for another year!
 
Thank you to all who donated. And thank you all, who weren’t able to donate at this time but spread the word, shared the links!

Appleby

Mind it wouldn’t go wrong if more went on the indiegogo site… We want to avoid the punative rate for their cut and the paypal costs if Rev is forced to add in off-site, etc.
 
At least we know at this stage that Rev Stu doesn’t need to close up shop in humiliation as he mentioned at the beginning if the pot was left empty to closing and no one seemed to care!

Appleby

Kicked in a couple of quid again. So close to the goal on the indiegogo site! Just another push on that green bar. 😉

Chic McGregor

@Jeannie & Lumilumi
 
Surely it would be Emperor Ming (the merciless)?
It’ll never happen.  In fact now I come to think of it there is an inordinate number of LibDems who would be on the top ten list of those who would have zero chance of ever being in charge of a free Scotland.
Douglas Alexander
Tavish Scott
Malcolm Bruce
Jim Wallace
Ming Campbell
 
David Steel and Charlie Kennedy Us though they are, would have had a chance in their day, so they don’t get on the list.
 

Doug

Chic. I assume you meant Danny? However, Doug A is in that same sinking boat…

Ron

Donated at the beginning. Delighted that you’ve exceeded the target. Here’s another ten donated on behalf of panda paws. You’re doing a great job, Rev Stu and I’m convinced that this site will have made a significant contribution to the eventual success of the Indy Campaign!

Ron

Just been watching Eve Muirhead on Scotland tonight. What an inspiration for Scottish women she is! Her determination and dedication are what it’s all about. Now watching Women for Independence on Newsnicht. Cannot really understand why women are so reluctant to stand up for the Independence ideal. Come on, you girls, we’ve all to work together for a better future for our own country!

Morag

Honestly, right now I’m reconsidering my support for the Suffragettes….

Morag

Is RevStu going to stay up all night posting a new link to an old classic every hour on the hour?

You know, I rather think he is.  Unless there’s some way he has it automated, I suppose.

Morag

You know what?  I think the total has gone up by about £3,700 since nine o’clock this morning.  Isn’t that fantastic?  😀

Jeannie

@Morag
It IS fantastic!  And I’ve lost a day of my life feverishly watching it change.  I don’t grudge a second though and I don’t grudge a penny.  It’s been more than worth it.

Ron

Morag, I believe they tried to tell Emmeline that – ‘It won’t make any difference’ ?

Morag

Some say it was the Great War that made the difference, I suppose….

Morag

Well, RevStu will be able to pay his rent, and keep himself supplied with pasta shells and maybe put a new candle on the desk now.

He might be able to commission the occasional professional article, though whether he needs to with the likes of Scott around here may be debatable.

But this is just a resource.  People who come here are already converted to Yes, or else they’re here to troll.  Mostly, anyway.  What we do with this is take the information and get out there and make people aware of it.

FreddieThreepwood

Can’t remember the name of that wee guy with the jug ears who does Newsnicht on a Monday when Brewer’s recovering from his weekend on the batter but I don’t think he’s been keeping up with the editorial memos. I’m not saying he doesn’t come away with the occasional bit of bitter bollocks but he’s got a dreadful habit of allowing pro indy studio guests to finish their answers. It’s an outrage. Someone should tell Ian Davidson …

Morag

I think that’s RevStu just put in some of the off-system donations to make up the total.

Take a look, it’s great!  And by my reckoning there’s another £2,600 or thereabouts still in the off-system kitty.

Jeannie

Well done Wings readers and well done Rev Stu. – a fantastic result and well-deserved.   It’s been a great day watching it all come together. Time to get into my babygro now.  Night all 🙂

Morag

Goodnight.  We all done something good here.

I felt, when RevStu started this, that if we could do it, we could win the referendum.  I felt we could, just as I feel we’re going to win next year.

And Tellen1 can put that in his salaried Unionist pipe and smoke it.

Doganon

Just seen £30,073! Yay!

***does wee dance around the living room floor***

Bravo all!

Morag

I suspect the real total is getting on for £33,000.  Not much less, anyway.

No doubt RevStu will tell us in the morning.

Adrian B

Marvelous result. Well done Rev Stu and everyone involved. I’m off to get some sleep.

Oldnat

OK Rev Stu is now funded. So what about some contributions to Yes Scotland and/or any of the pro-independence parties?
Wouldn’t that be a good idea?

Weedeochandorris

Rev Stu was unsuccesful with my donation this time but will fix that for the future.  I wish you all the best and thank you for this lifeline that helps keep our aspirations afloat.

Jammach

Just woken up to the good news. 🙂
‘You can’t stop the signal, Mal. Everything goes somewhere, and I go everywhere.”
Very. Chuffed.

Appleby

Thank goodness for that! We did it. 😀 I assume the last minute mega donation was the off-site addition to the kitty?
 
Seems that the fundraiser beat Rev Stu’s hopes by good chunk then!

Stevie Cosmic

Congratulations to WoS. Very glad you reached your goal.

uilleam_beag

Aye, good effort one and all.
 
Congrats to Rev Stu and the site’s contributors for pulling off this no mean feat, and thanks for all the hard work that goes into making this such a great site.
 
My gratitude also goes out to all those who chipped in, cajouled others to dig deep and promoted WoS on Facebook, Twitter and everything else.
 
As Oldnat said, now we need to start directing those self same energies towards securing a Yes vote.
 
Aye fer Alba!

Chic McGregor

@Doug
I did mean Danny Doug.  (bit redolent of Red Dwarf there)


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