Well, this is a little embarrassing
Posted on
May 17, 2025 by
Rev. Stuart Campbell
Not for us, admittedly.
(Kelly’s article is here. Link to Grok’s answer here. The ChatGPT analysis that triggered the article can be read in this tweet thread. A verifiable analysis by Grok of the debate, based on a neutral question, can be read here.)
Oops!
Having re-converted to the SNP perhaps he feels the need to go full-on anti-Wings to prove his credentials as a political party man.
Or maybe he just wants to raise his profile up so as to get more writing grifts from The National.
But it could simply be that the guy is a complete narcissist.
I fixed on of the ‘Anonymous’ comments:
AnonymousMay 17, 2025 at 8:56?AM
The problem is that at the moment young folk do support Indy but they also are far more progressive than what’s left of the old and formerly much more progressive Yes movement. They wont back Alba and the SNP being forced to step back from sharing their vision because of the likes of Joanna Cherry has put them off the SNP. The Greens may be more in line with them but what’s left of the Yes movement seems to be made up of folk and commentators who despise the Greens and hate Sturgeon – so there’s a disconnect that can be overcome until the Yes returns to the progressive and inclusive movement it was in 2014. I was talking to a couple of older SNP members the other day – they think Joanna Cherry was badly treated – to me there has never been a more toxic individual in the SNP in my time voting for the party – I don’t think that difference in perception can be easily overcome – the Yes movement feels like it is for older voters who believe in conspiracy theories and live in a bubble that is so detached from young people and the world they want to see materialise.
ACCBMay 17, 2025 at 9:17?AM
The above reads more sensibly, after a simple cut/paste:
“The problem is that at the moment stupid folk do support Indy but they also are far more progressive than what’s left of the old and formerly much more progressive Yes movement. They wont back Alba and the SNP being forced to step back from sharing their vision because of the likes of Joanna Cherry has put them off the SNP. The Greens may be more in line with them but what’s left of the Yes movement seems to be made up of folk and commentators who despise the Greens and hate Sturgeon – so there’s a disconnect that can be overcome until the Yes returns to the progressive and inclusive movement it was in 2014. I was talking to a couple of wiser SNP members the other day – they think Joanna Cherry was badly treated – to me there has never been a more toxic individual in the SNP in my time voting for the party – I don’t think that difference in perception can be easily overcome – the Yes movement feels like it is for wiser voters who believe in conspiracy theories and live in a bubble that is so detached from stupid people and the world they want to see materialise. ”
(Screenshot for purposes of posterity.)
It says a lot (none of it good) about any pro-independence person who is involved in Scottish politics at the present time thinking that the right thing to do is actually to JOIN the SNP.
It also says a lot about the SNP that they’d have a wrecker like James Kelly back. It does suggest that in their case beggars can’t really be choosers, huh?
Having seen the steady descent of Mr Kelly over recent years – both in terms of support and behaviour – it’s becoming increasingly obvious that there is some deep seated personality flaw or psychological issue there.
In the unlikely event he has any friends left, I’d suggest it’s high time they staged some sort of intervention.
His behaviour and level of obsession with Stu Campbell can’t be healthy.
Kelly is a seriously smelly guy. He needs his hard drive checked.
I asked if he could provide a link as stu had done, he delete the post. Therefore I believe stu over him.
There are complex algorithms used in portfolio investment decision making, yet research concluded that the use of simple hueristics such as ‘spreading your investment risk’ was just as effective.
If your allegiance is purely to the SNP then the least risky thing to do is to vote SNP 1/2. If your allegiance is to independence then voting for the SNP is like throwing your change in the sea and making a wish.
The only two things that stop me sending a STOP DIGGING message to Master Kelly are: 1) He would ignore the message. 2) he would block me.
Stu, despite your obvious-self confidence, I am amazed that you actually had a debate on this issue with Scotland’s foremost pishologist (that is the correct spelling isn’t it?)
It must be exhausting dealing with, as Duncanio described him, the narcissist that is James Kelly. It’s high time you were promoted from Reverend to Bishop. If he keeps bashing you it would then be plain for the world to see what James Kelly really is.
Bashing the Bishop, Skip, really?
I see you…
Aw come on, I thought that was quite good for a Saturday morning before I’d had my coffee. In my experience, James Kelly is a (fill in the blank).
Anybody got any tips on how I can read the whole saga without joining twitter/x? (Which I politely decline to do!)
@Willie John
Aye, pick a nitter instance that is currently in good health [1].
Then use the nitter service instance to view the twitter thread.
e.g. oor Stuey posted this link:
link to x.com
so you can post that in to your browser then just edit the url
by deleting the x.com bit and typing nitter.net instead.
so that would become:
link to nitter.net
You can use this method to go to any twitter thread.
Also nitter has options on how to view threads and replies.
[1] link to status.d420.de
Thanks.
I’ve found link to xcancel.com to be very reliable.
I think Rev, that you are attacking the system from the wrong angle and playing by the rules of the establishment: it’s not the pros and cons of voting for the same party or choosing an alternative on the list that’s the problem, it’s the system itself.
The AMS/D’Hondt system is devised so that its intricacies install confusion and uncertainty in the minds of voters in order to achieve the desired outcome of no party ever having an overall majority. This confusion is compounded by having 3 profoundly different electoral methods for HR, WM, and Council.
The freak result of 2011, when constituency and list votes landed on a pinhead to give SNP the ‘unachievable’ HR majority, materialised because of SNP 1 & 2. It is incongruous that this outcome via 1 & 2 inspired the realisation that independence was within our grasp, and that 1 & 2 is a mugs game.
Had SNP not gone rogue, we were on track to beat this system in the most convincing manner possible: by winning 65+ constituency seats with 50%+ of the vote and effectively saying ‘to hell with AMS and the list vote’. A cursory glance at HR constituency voting since 2003 shows that we were heading for our own self-proclaimed referendum result on independence: –
2021 – 47.7% (62)
2016 – 46.5% (59)
2011 – 45.4% (53)
2007 – 32.9% (21)
2003 – 23.8% (9)
This is the tragedy and legacy of Sturgeon. Next May, perhaps May 2031, could have been our defining moment by achieving more than 50% of HR constituency votes AND list votes. It could hardly be a more compelling argument for independence had we won a majority is spite of around 1.5 million second votes being shredded and resulting in zero list seats. It would have exposed the fraudulent system for what it is.
As a corollary, if SNP achieves 35%, or 45% constituency, and a second Indy party receives all of the SNP votes on the list paper, it’s still … 35% or 45%, even with 65 or more seats. The only upshot of having a second Indy party is that it could have prevented much of the damaging policies now in play.
Sadly, SNP 1&2 is no longer the problem: it’s SNP 1. And until we get rid of what has become a disastrous moribund self-serving group and replace it with something resembling an independence party, we may as well do as Rev does and enjoy a walk in the park.
GLASGOW DAWN
(For my brother Stuart, 21 March 2009)
Were they not great
those hours we spent
up in your Byres Road flat
discussing through the night
over a glass or two of wine
our childhood in Canada
the condition of Scotland
the meaning of life
till we noticed
the Glasgow dawn
till we heard
the sweet song
of the birds.
——-
GLASADH-LÀ GHLASCHU
(Dom bhràthair Stuart, 21 Màrt 2009)
Nach math na h-uairean a thìd ud
a chaith sinn shuas sa flat agad
air Rathad nam Bàthach
a’ gabhail glainne no dhà fiona
‘s a’ labhairt tron oidhche
mu òige ann an Canada
mu chor na h-Alba
mu chiall na beatha
gus an tug sinn an aire
glasadh-là Ghlaschu
gus a chuala sinn
seinn binn nan eun.
Do you think that the respondent ‘Anonymous’ is himself???
Stu, if we are to believe James Kelly’s characterization of you, you were born in Hanover in 1960 (a few years earlier than you have let on in the past), you like fast cars and have had a varied career beyond the role for which you are famous. You are both interested and interesting.
This is what annoys me, people who claim to want Independence then advocate two votes for the SNP 1&2 when all they are doing is trying to deny any other Indy party winning seats and blocking Independence.
The goal is Independence, not attacking everyone who trying to, point out the facts and post the evidence regarding these facts for everyone to make a informed opinion on their own.
I was listening to the SSRG conference today and we heard some explosive stuff regarding the fake Union by a KC, if it was available I would have posted it here, so look out for it on SSRG’s Youtube.
Sounds like your post needs fixing. How about
“explosive stuff regarding the union by a fake KC”
Any political and economic entity that issues passports, enters into trade agreements, and gets tangled in wars, can’t be fake.
And not all the wishful thinking in the world can change that.
Then again, maybe you don’t have a passport, driving licence, National Insurance number, state pension entitlement, or tax history.
But I’m 100% confident you’ve got some of these, maybe all. And every one with “UK” on it somewhere.
Somebody should expose that fake KC for the fraud she is.
Priceless.
Well played
Prepare for the ranting to begin over on his site…..
Cutting to the crux, unless Scots grow a pair their country will just be a folk memory.
There are no «rules» in the independence game.
I’m not sure it’s not a folk memory now. The place bears little resemblance to what it was in my youth, and I’m not exactly ancient.
IMHO Scots could grow a dozen for all the good it would do if we can’t bring ourselves to engage with reality.
Denying the reality of the union and the legality of the UK is a case in point. Try telling a rationalist you’re engaged in a life-long enterprise of destroying something that you claim doesn’t exist and watch them jog on without looking back.
How do you hold onto the idea that it is a real union?
It may once have been ( may) once have been a parliamentary union and trade union treaty, without the the Scots and the territory of the Scots.
However as a result of the (Scotland Act) there are now Multiple parliaments in Great Britain in different Countries. Passing different laws. Over different nations. And have separate election at dates.
This Breached the 1707 parliamentary Treaty of Union articles, terms and conditions between Scotland and England in a major way whereby it specifically states. As a fundamental foundational condition
“There will be One parliament of Great Britain hereafte”.
This is only one instance of the treaty of union being put to bed.
It is ignorance here in Scotland to put our fingers in our ears and keep singing tra la laa.
Once breached in such a manner, it does not remain as a intact treaty of parliamentary union any more.
The parliament in Scotland resets to become a Scottish parliament in the Country of Scotland automatically hundreds of miles away from being ( One and the same parliament of Westminster’s parliament of Great Britain down south )
Because Westminster thought it was a good idea, it does not mean it was a (Legal one) stance to take in keeping and upholding the articles of the 1707 parliamentary union between Scotland and England.
Nowadays it would seems Scotland excepts a Westminster mish mash version of the 1707 treaty,
First we are supposed to believe the treaty of union is old guff that nobody believes any more.
But that it still stands and binds Scotland in a union.
That the Scottish parliament can pass just Scots laws.
But the Westminster parliament can say no it can’t if it does want those laws.
Then the the Scottish parliament is DEVOLVED.
BUT THIS Scottish parliament, would be Sovereign and able to negotiate a new Treaty with Westminster parliament,
This is the guff. This is the nonsense being spoon fed Scotland,
And just to remind those whom believe the treaty of union is still real.
What Article in that “said” treaty of union agreement specifically states Scotlands people have to ask and beg to have a section 30 referendum with a certain required % of votes if the want to be independent.
That the Scots believe this unwritten tosh spoon fed is binding upon them, while Westminster alter and bend the treaty agreement to suit their own purposes as if it was invented by a starmer flip flop governance.
Well, James, I guess that 318 years and counting is a mere eyeblink in geological terms.
In human terms though, it’s something like 11 generations. That’s a temporary, imaginary state of affairs, only to somebody who perhaps could also conclude that poot’s existential war is simply a special military operation.
As I pointed out above though, it shouldn’t be at all difficult to destroy something that doesn’t exist. Unless I have that one arse over tit – maybe it’s quite impossible to destroy something imaginary.
That would defo be a stopper for Indy if so
Well, this is even more embarrassing. Your move Stu!
link to scotgoespop.blogspot.com
I’ve enjoyed reading the Grok analysis and assessment of the “debate”.
I wonder if it would catch on BTL too. Does anybody feel confident enough to give it a go?
We could keep it real with questions to Grok like: “In the stushie between and , which one is the prick?
Keep it real and in our comfort zone
The idea has legs Mr McHateface!
Sadly* I see that many of those who would have been most embarrassed by such analysis no longer soil BTL – though admittedly I’ve been somewhat distracted recently with a new job, so I may have missed them being hit by Rev Stu’s hammer or performatively flouncing off because they couldn’t whinge on endlessly about colonialism, Jockistinian affairs or how we wuz robbed by the furriners.
*not reallt sad at all.
« I’m off out to feed the swans. » (recent Stu Campbell remark)
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« we may as well do as Rev does and enjoy a walk in the park. »
(Ebok 2.39pm above)
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The above comments bring to mind a rich seam of historical Scottish political thought and tension, as is evident by a few excerpts from the remarkable book by David Allan: PHILOSOPHY AND POLITICS IN LATER STUART SCOTLAND: NEO-STOICISM, CULTURE AND IDEOLOGY IN AN AGE OF CRISIS, 1540-1690 (Tuckwell Press, East Linton, Scotland, 2000) —
“(T)his study…surveys the foundations on which a relationship arose from the middle of the sixteenth century between Neo-Stoicism and specifically Scottish moral and political thought” (p1)
“George Buchanan brooks large in any survey of neo-Latin literature, in a European as well as merely in a Scottish context…Nowhere was this connection more far-reaching than in ‘De jure regni apud Scotos dialogus’ (1579). (p 48)
[…] Such connections also mark Buchanan out as the single Scottish author situated nearest to the cultural and physical centre of Europe’s gathering Stoic revival.” (p 51)
« Stoicism, of course, still offered two plausible solutions to the central moral problem which it had long acknowledged: that of reconciling the apparent duty of virtuous activity in the public sphere with the common experience of disappointment occasioned by corruption and conflict. In this context, as Miriam Griffin explains, it gave to its devotees ‘a rich supply of terms and arguments to use in analysing different courses and weighing the alternatives. » (p12)
« Lipsius had been simultaneously attracted, in fact, to the much less optimistic Roman solution: that which advised withdrawal and private self-protection in the face of clearly insuperable odds and irreconcileable differences. » (p13)
« Neo-Stoicism of this kind, voiced by men invariably moderate in inclination but also increasingly disenchanted with the blighted state of modern affairs, advocated virtuous seclusion in preference to futile public engagement. Its spokesmen stressed the rewards of inward contentment and, on balance, advised their contemporaries against precarious exposure to public corruption and the play of hostile fates. » (p15)
« Indeed, this recoiling from the public arena had been Drummond’s [ie William Drummond of Hawthornden’s] instinctive reaction to political disappointment since his early twenties. For it was then that he had first ‘given himself up to books, ingenious inquiries, his lute, walks amid moon-lit foliage, watchings of the stars from his door-porch, writing now and then a prose essay, a sonnet, or a madrigal’. To this most carefully self-made of modern Stoics, a political moderate and natural conciliator, long habituated to the wholesome virtues and intellectual pleasures of the closeted country life, the British Wars became simply the ultimate practical justification for philosophical retreat. » (p100)
« And it cites Montrose’s [ie James Graham, 1st Marquis of Montrose’s] favourite poet, the Stoical Lucan, sitting: ‘in the bosome of a shaddowie grove, flanckt with a christall stream, and there creating those noble lines, which have since carried his fame as far as Caesar’s actions.’ The ‘Moral Essay Preferring Solitude to Publick Employment’ [by Sir George Mackenzie] was thus able to move towards the conclusion, backed by suitably frequent quotations from Lucan’s uncle Seneca, that rustic landscapes constitute the natural environment of the genuine patriot – who now assumes the unlikely mantle of the pastoral hero. Like Cincinnatus in ancient Rome, an example Mackenzie actually introduces, we should stay in our farms, our gardens and policies, and wait till we be called for by our Country. »
« All right-thinking men – in [Sir George] Mackenzie’s loaded formulation, those following not passion or avarice but the dictates of Reason and experience’ – should practice the life of withdrawal. Until their country calls, men should be content with the Arcadian idyll – amid ‘rich Valleys’ and ‘Crystal streams’, which keeps an open house to all passangers [sic] for herbs and flowres of all tastes and liveries’ – in a bucolic world beyond the reach of jealousy, corruption and despair. » (p197)
@ 100% Yes at 6.30: the KC Prof Robert Black was forensic in proving the falsity of the “United Kingdom”. I too hope that his speech will be available to share.
It was all the more powerful coming from someone who has spent 60 years in Scottish law and for 59 years had accepted the UK’s version of Scotland’s constitutional status. Well he kens the noo that Salvo is right.
Sarah, well said.
It seems to me that this quote from James Kelly from the National janitorial 17, effectively agrees with you. I tried to ask him on his blog but he deleted it
I was also heartened by the fact that Alba’s own electoral strategy in 2021 seemed extremely responsible. The party was only standing on the list ballot, where it is considerably easier for small parties to win seats, and was actively urging voters to back the SNP on the constituency ballot. That made it much less likely that Alba’s intervention would inadvertently end up harming the independence cause, rather than helping it. The result of the 2021 election was extremely disappointing, with Alba taking less than 2% of the list vote and coming nowhere near to winning any seats, but nevertheless the list-only vote strategy remained sound, and I felt it gave the independence movement a vital back-up option for the 2026 election if the SNP had failed to make progress on the goal by then.
I hate to direct anyone to the NatAnal rag anymore but a history search reveals a non paywall rendition of the sneaky beaky UK McCrone report.
Uber secret and all that chaps.
Required reading (and understanding) for the resident Trolls on here!
Mind you the Green p1sh the SNP has been dragged into makes it questionably moot now..
At least Dick Turpin had the decency to wear a mask as he robbed people blind..
Loving your double taps.
How does it go again? One in the chest and one in the head?
No doubt instinctive to a trained killer like yourself.
I see the Herald is leading with a picture of the selfie queen (SHE whose name shall not be uttered) taking a selfie with young girls while campaigning in Hamilton at a gymnastic club.
Anyone else see the dichotomy here?
The person that would have troubled males masquerading as female getting into these very children’s changing rooms!
And;
Taking photographs of them!
I thought there were standards to be observed about that sort of thing these days..
She is a complete liability to Independence and needs gone.
One consequence of Brexit has been changing the inflow of high levels of white East European legal migrants to the UK with mostly (Black) African legal migrants who are here to work.
It makes the extent of legal migration so much more visible than before Brexit and Reform UK are exploiting this to fuel people’s fears.
The level of legal migrants in Hamilton at this present time could well determine the outcome of the By election but I doubt Elsie McSelfie’s presence there is going to make any difference.
The appearance in the Hamilton constituency was touted in advance as “canvassing”. In the event, it was a photo opportunity and short Q & A in a controlled environment.
Is Sturgeon a liability chapping the doors? Afraid of the local neds making quips about camper vans and furry cups? It is after all taps aff weather in the land of Buckfast for breakfast. It would appear to have been a photo opportunity, but for whom, the SNP or Sturgeon’s forthcoming book?
Sturgeon has been partial to photies of herself in gyms recently. She is to be commended for fighting the good fight given her height and age.
She should however take some fashion advice. Tight slacks with a blouse tucked in and a narrow belt pulled tight inevitably results in the dreaded gunt. Either alter your mode of dress dear, or try harder at the gym.
As amusing as the article is, it does highlight the shortfalls in AI at this present time, namely it doesn’t have context outside of what is stored on the internet, intuition and inherent biases built into the AI model.
The Rev has done more for the independence movement in real life than this James Kelly has done. Even those who don’t agree with independence will mostly grudgingly agree that the Rev has done so much to further independence at a grass roots level. How can this be truly quantified by recording it on social media that will enable AI models to take this into account?
The AI says “The web results suggest Kelly has stronger arguments on his blog, emphasizing risk aversion and practicality, but without those arguments here, his position lacks depth in this exchange,”
This highlights the bias built into the AI model.
On paper that is correct but people are influenced by arguments both of the heart and mind. You may have all the correct, logical arguments but if you come across as arrogant, aloof or condescending then people will not listen to.
There is also the fact that in life, you need to balance idealism with pragmatism to fit with the realities of life. How can this ’emotional intelligence’ be built into an AI algorithm?
It’s a good intellectual exercise and a real world example of the state of AI today. It highlights the shortfalls of the technology which doesn’t seem to be acknowledged by Big business and government with this made rush to insert it into every part of their organisations.
It seems to me that James Kelly is being paid by the spooks as a disruptor.
Of course, that might mean they’re getting a bit worried. And they might well be after yesterday’s SSRG conference which was seriously intelligent, professional, annalytical and convincing, especially about their work with the UN and their analysis of the great energy rip off.
It was nice to see Alba represented there. Douglas Chapman from the SNP was also there but no other SNP person that I recognised.
I don’t doubt that the spooks take interest in the cause of independence, but if they’re using someone with the obvious psychological issues and limited reach that a sad individual like James Kelly exhibits, they can’t really be considered much of a threat.
Fortunately, James has been distracted by the participation of Israel in Eurovision (he really loves Eurovision and gets quite upset if you laugh at it) and is now devoting his time to complaining about people multiple voting.
Hmmm.
I see the opposite, Andy. Anybody wanting to damage Scottish Indy would be best to use a total nut job to do the dirty work.
It’s for that reason that I have long harboured suspicions about some of the more extreme nut jobs on here. Alert readers will know the ones I mean.
You don’t harm a cause by being sceptical and pointing out flaws. That allows the case to be improved and strengthened. Weak points can be identified and reinforced.
The subtle way to harm a cause is to have some of its more vehement adherents totally off the scale when it comes to rationality, reasonableness and contact with reality.
Perhaps you could oblige us with your summary of their analysis of the great energy rip off.
How does it go again?
Dozens and even hundreds of miles off Scotland’s coast, the wind blows strongly. So “others” should altruistically spend umpteen billions of pounds building the infrastructure to harness, capture and distribute that energy in the form of electricity.
This Herculean effort to involve the construction of vast networks of turbines, hundreds of miles of undersea cables, thousands of miles of overland cables, and fiendishly complex control and monitoring systems. Much of it in one of the more hostile environments known to man, so needing constant, dangerous maintenance.
Not forgetting the onshore backup sources, such as gas, nuclear, battery farms and foreign interconnectors, for those awkward periods when the wind drops.
Aye, these altruistic “others” should do all this and sell us the leccy at a loss because we’re Scottish and therefore special.
Be sure to tell me if there’s any other disadvantages of this doomed to eternal high costs, ludicrous, green Frankenstein I’ve overlooked.
Like how in an era of increasing European military threat, it’s very difficult to protect, for example.
And how the people who can’t stop our rivers from being flooded with shite, claim they’re going to save the entire world environment by putting wind turbines over the horizon out at sea.
Aye. Right.
James Kelly as a spook-paid disruptor? No, I don’t see it. He’s just an overblown windbag. He’s been spouting the same nonsense for ages. The inflated comment numbers on his blog are the result of two things. Firstly, a large number of idiots that don’t know when to quit and a number of posters who do satire of varying quality to wind up the idiots. Secondly, James Kelly posts below the line with obviously made up names – he has admitted this.
He is also very quick to delete posts that even vaguely threaten his view. I have been the “victim” of his trigger-happiness. How he does it is particularly offensive. Reader writes a post that threatens James Kelly’s understanding of the world around him. He deletes the post and then dishonestly summarizes the deleted post. He is not open to a decent exchange of views. He is, therefore, not a democrat and has no place in a political party. He sat on a variety of committees when he was in Alba for which he was clearly unsuited. I imagine his blog helped him get elected. He is thoroughly untrustworthy. He is dishonest. It is best that we all ignore him, for he is clearly not an independence supporter. Observe his latest witherings celebrating SNP by-election wins where they have clung on by not losing quite enough votes to Reform.
Here is the video of the SSRG conference for those who are interested. The most important part is @ 1:45.17 although it was all quite interesting. We heard that Westminster had change the title of the Treaty of Union. We also heard Scotland joined England you’ll have to watch the full session in order to listen to that part.
Just add a extra t in https: to watch or go over to SSRG on youtube.
htps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2lVgoA6UHQ
100%Yes..
I will away and watch it just now, thanks for the information,
I am looking forward to the piece where they mention which part of Scotland joined England, especially as Westminster UK parliament site state the Scots did not join, and were not asked to because the Scots would have voted No.
And the Scottish members of the old Scottish parliament simply joined Englands Westminster parliament in a invented Country of Great Britain,
And only paused the Scottish parliament in Scotland in 1707 until further notice.
It is difficult to identify which bit of Scotland or Scots joined England,
I believe David Henry was saying that the wording of the treaty of Union has recently been changed to say Scotland joined England. Remember we now know that the Act of the Union was never signed and the reality is England annexed Scotland with a false Treaty Union claim.
If anyone has a problem with the above URL link, try this alternative path:
SCOTTISH SOVEREIGNTY RESEARCH GROUP CONFERENCE (17 May 2025)
link to gobha-uisge.blogspot.com
@ Fearghas MacFhionnlaigh Thanks, added your site to my bookmarks.
It would help if Wings updated Pro-Indy bloggers on his site
link to joansjigsaw.uk
link to caltonjock.com
Attention is drawn particularly to the DEFINITIVE KEYNOTE SPEECH BY PROFESSOR ROBERT BLACK KC starting at 1.46.35 into youtube version via link above.
I posted the same on the other website, but this is not what LLMs are suitable for. They are probabilistic models, and the above is meaningless garbage. Its embarrassing for both of you.
I posted the same on the other website, but this is not what LLMs are suitable for. They are probabilistic models, and the above is meaningless garbage. Its embarrassing for both of you.
If you look at Kelly’s article in the National on 17 January, you will see that he supported Alba’s strategy which is not hugely different from the one advocated by Stu
I actually think the union does not exist for Scots , for a multiple of reasons.
However equally there are Scots that want the union to remain a reality. And they are the Scots that refuse to analyse the points made, rather quick to mock and ready to dismiss with fingers in their ears.
Everyone is aware of of the unionist minded Scots, they have been the cause of attempting to subdue their fellow Scots for personal financial profits for years, inevitably linked to maintaining the believe that a union is real if good to them is a must good for all Scots.
Ha, ha the saga of Kelly-gate goes on and on and on. Now we have the prime antagonist lambasting the Rev for inadequate condemnation of the Gen O’Cide.
FFS just let him get on with it. If you do have to respond, point out why he’s bothering with you, rather than tackling the problem itself. Is he too scared of trying to stop or is he more interested than scoring cheap political points to ingratiate himself with his new masters.
Yeah Rev , take your own advice and ignore trolls.
He’s obviously desperate for attention – a bit like Trump and a bit like Trump worth ignoring!
Kelly of course is so full of self righteous anger that he forgets that actually watching it and voting is legitimating it
I strongly disagree with the first 3 words in your latest piece of drivel.
Care to elaborate?
Back to business…
youtube.com/live/Z2lVgoA6UHQ?feature=shared
Fantastic and illuminating.
Makes you realise, if you didn’t already, what a dead horse the SNP has become and the futility of flogging it every polling day.
This is a (very) long but, interesting read, link to sonar21.com
It gives you an insight on how constitutional-fundamentalists in America – on the left and right – are pushing to get the American Experiment back on the rails. There were Big Hopes pinned on Trump but he’s probably going to fuck it up.
So, why do we care, I hear you all cry….
Well, if the Scottish People are sovereign I have to ask “To what end?”. It’s all very well to wring your hands and talk about colonisation and lament our sorry state of affairs, but what alternatives are the SSRG etc. going to offer to get us out of this mess?
How about a draft constitution? A set of well defined rules, with lots of “Parliament shall never….” clauses in it which would make it abundantly clear that the old order will be put to the sword and we won’t simply be exchanging one set of eejits for another.
You are left to (academically) wonder how the comfortable status quo for UK/US might alter completely if;
1. Dump the of all time mother loads of hydraulic concrete between Rhu and Rosneath then -with suitable safety warning – simultaneously blew out one of the legs of each drilling rig in the North Sea?
The McCrone report makes it perfect clear we are simply getting pocket money for our “drill baby drill” resources so hypothetically speaking why not?
Heck; THEY talk about carpet bombing our airports if independent so why not address the unaddressable elephant in the room?
Won’t happen of course, these resources are only vulnerable if we are independent- apparently..
“these resources are only vulnerable if we are independent”
It’s not exactly rocket science, YL Sah!
At the moment these resources are moderately well protected by the moderately competent and moderately well resourced forces of the RN and the RAF. Plus the UK has Intel sharing arrangements with some of the very well equipped indeed big players of the western strategic alliances.
Post-Indy, if some of the regulars on here get their way, we will have a motley crew of part-timers prepared to stand on the beaches, face out to sea, and wave their “Bairns Not Bombs” banners in a vigorous and slightly intimidating fashion.
It doesn’t bother them – Indy takes precedence, even if we all have to drag out the rest of our lives in a blackhouse, coughing our lungs up while subsisting on a handful of daily oatmeal.
Rational, sane Scots perhaps see things differently.
“How about a draft constitution? A set of well defined rules”
How about you explain why any Sovereign Scot should agree to be bound and circumscribed by any set of rules he doesn’t agree with?
If you intend to let the “Sovereign Scot” trope come to the fore, you have to abandon your “old order” thinking which at the moment seems to be telling you that you get to say where other Scot’s Sovereignty starts and finishes.
You don’t, so take some time out to think that through.
My point sailed in one ear and out the other.
I posted a link about the American constitution – you know that document about individual freedom, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, etc, then followed up with a constitution was a set of rules all about “Parliament shall never…” and somehow you interpreted this about constraining the individual.
Willfully blind/dumb does not explain your attitude.
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The haters gonna hate! It never fails to amaze me the amount of hate mail you get from all different groups of people. And they can’t lay glove you! It doesn’t matter if is Kezia Dugdale or Nicola Sturgeon, the reason they can’t.
Is because you live in the truth at all times. Where as our bent politicians have sold their soul to the devil.
Your statement at 7.36 am regards resources and assets is helpful to the independence supporters in confirming that Scotland is in a held and enforced Colony by threat, rather than a voluntary treaty of union,
If you say so, James.
I’m not really understanding who is threatening who. YL Sah! seemed to be suggesting that as Scotland supposedly bankrolls England and provides that multicultural utopia with the bulk of its energy, we can threaten them.
I guess I’m pointing out that as we favour waving “Bairns Not Bombs” banners as our preferred mechanism for defending ourselves, we perhaps won’t be in any position to threaten anybody.
Smarter people than me, you or YL Sah! could perhaps clarify this.
Meantime, as of today and right now, the only threat affecting my immediate comfort, warmth and ability to post on here are the Orc sabotage ships currently on the high seas, mapping the subsea infrastructure and dragging their anchors when the mood takes them.
Sorreee! Our bad. Still, nice subsea infrastructure you have here, keeping your lights on and your NHS Intensive Care facilities powered. It would be a crying shame if anything were to happen to it!
Maybe after young Mister MacKay has finished fretting about his Sovereign Scot’s constitution, he could turn his mind to more pressing matters.
Such as the one I’ve just outlined.
Make sure to check under your bed before going to sleep tonight, John.
If the Act of union was never signed does imply that the UK and intel are an illegal entity, that treaties having been signed or made under that guise name are illegal treaties not standing for other Countries,
There may be many a happy Country elsewhere.
Englands parliament will manage to end the so called union, merger annexation by its presumptive arrogance,
It does not need Scotlands assistance,
It no doubt changes the circumstances around the devolved parliament to Scotland and the position of the the SNP sitting there pretending to be Scottish representatives.
What is obvious and becoming more obvious day by day, is why unionist minded peoples always wish to close down the treaty of union topic by any means possible, even threats to Scotland.
Which encourages other Countries who may be approached to recognise that the Country of Scotlands position has been as that of a Colony,
“always wish to close down the treaty of union topic by any means possible, even threats to Scotland”
Hmmmm.
I’m confident Scotland can handle any threat I manage to pose to Scotland. May the Guid Gowd help us all if she can’t.
Nobody is trying to close down the treaty of union “debate”, James. Plenty of people think it’s a complete and utter waste of time though. But by all means you stick in at it.
I’m confident that the only route to Indy is via a democratically endorsed majority in favour. I have plenty of political “big names” in agreement on that.
All that the supporters of the “magic bullet” trope are telling me is that they’ve given up on trying to turn the minority in support of Indy into the necessary majority.
I’ll tell you what you should do, though. I think it’s a perfectly reasonable request. You should publish a deadline for the success of your “magic bullet”. You must have been pushing it for some years now. There ought to be a point at which even you will acknowledge that it’s not going to work.
That wouldn’t mean giving up on Indy, so please don’t twist my words to claim I’m saying that. But it would mean that you need to find yourself a better approach.
Oh I don’t know, the “magic bullet” seems to be working for Farage at the moment. ?
I do not need to publish any of my comments over the many years here on wings regards the treaty of union hogwash hoax, as it appears that Salvo and associates have taken up the baton and published most of it and acted upon it,
It is pleasing to know that others with more force letters after their names have been thinking along the same lines of thought though,
All I need to do now is the same as other independence supporters on here, and keep drawing attention to some facts that have come to light in that regard.
Thanks for the suggestion though. Much appreciated.
Hatey McHateface,
I recognise your point on how vunerable infrastruture is especially wire,cables and pipe lines,
This does seem to be a world wide problem for all Countries as the world becomes more volatile in general,.
As we learned of some people in a boat that may have Dived to set charges on pipelines underwater not so long ago, that was in most news sources. That caused a big splash, excuse the pun,
All Countries will have to contend with sabotage, we are no more secure that way than anyone else.
In fact it could have been done to any oil rig in the past 30 years or so that Scotland was not in control of, and may have been,
These same issues could and would take effect on the energy supply to England, Ireland , and Wales equally.
And any energy supply they wish to ship transport, sell via cables and pipelines.
I wonder if you’ve got time, to do an article on the Labour Party performance. Every time I read the news, Starmer is really bad.
– winter fuel payments
– disability cuts
– voice coach, blowjob gate
– Chagos islands surrender
– Grangemouth closure in Scotland, and signs off on the redevelopment of Old Trafford stadium. Subsidies Belgian oil refineries with out money
– The war money he gives to the blue and yellow flag. Billions given away.
– The Indians no longer VAT but come to Britain for 3 years and undercut British workers.
– rumours have it, a rent boy set fire to his house. It may go some way to explaining why a drag queen was the entertainment at his Burns supper. And why he felt the need to take a HIV test on TV.
And now today, it looks like the EU can fish in Scotland
Has there ever been a bigger globalist betrayer Than Starmer? He’s destroying Britain! It angers me!
But then again. I will only ever vote Independence for Scotland.
Wow!
Latest smoke signals is quoting a £750m bill for the ferry fiasco!
Double wow!!
Another £250m and this farce will get into the level of Westminster financial mismanagement farces..
Current and former transport ministers (aye we are looking at you Teflon- Gilruth) should fall on their swords.
Mind you that would require an ethos of ethics and accountability that is absent now at Holyrood..
And some serious sword falling required by the unelected civil disservants who overruled Calmac. The hybridistas who are intent on making every new Calmac ferry a prototype